Connected

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00:00:06 ◼   ► From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 267.

00:00:10 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by ExpressVPN, Pingdom and Freshbooks.

00:00:14 ◼   ► My name is Myke Hurley.

00:00:16 ◼   ► I'm joined by Federico Petici.

00:00:17 ◼   ► Hi, Federico.

00:00:19 ◼   ► Hi. Old school intro today. I like it.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Nice, right?

00:00:23 ◼   ► Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.

00:00:25 ◼   ► Stephen is out sick today.

00:00:28 ◼   ► Send him your two most favorite new emoji.

00:00:31 ◼   ► That would be my request.

00:00:33 ◼   ► That was actually his request.

00:00:34 ◼   ► He said, please, Myke, tell our listeners to have them send me emoji.

00:00:38 ◼   ► It's the only way that I can get over the fever that I'm I'm having. So.

00:00:43 ◼   ► Two most favorite emoji.

00:00:46 ◼   ► Yeah, the two new of the new ones.

00:00:48 ◼   ► I mean, everybody obviously will pick the otter as one of them

00:00:52 ◼   ► because it's maybe the best emoji now.

00:00:57 ◼   ► I don't know, maybe I have a feeling that, you know, Steven

00:00:59 ◼   ► can appreciate the MATE emoji, you know?

00:01:03 ◼   ► Yeah. Take a sip of grandpa.

00:01:06 ◼   ► The grandpa emoji.

00:01:07 ◼   ► I was very excited to see my friends being excited for the new emoji.

00:01:14 ◼   ► This is why they upgrade.

00:01:16 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:01:17 ◼   ► So it's a big thing for people.

00:01:19 ◼   ► Yeah. Well, and it pleases me to, you know, when they're happy with an update.

00:01:24 ◼   ► Usually they're just upset or like, oh, this update made my phone worse.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Yeah, everything is slow and crashing for once.

00:01:31 ◼   ► You know, when the emoji come out, everybody's happy and that's nice.

00:01:34 ◼   ► So we have some follow up.

00:01:38 ◼   ► I've decided that we will stick to the regime today and we'll do follow up.

00:01:43 ◼   ► There are more there's more smoke on the battery case fire.

00:01:47 ◼   ► Wait, no, that's that's that's terrible phrasing, right?

00:01:52 ◼   ► for what is actually saying that there's more rumors of battery cases, is what I'm trying to say.

00:01:58 ◼   ► Yeah, that's better English right there, yes.

00:02:01 ◼   ► So as is the way things are found in versions of operating systems these days,

00:02:06 ◼   ► and MacRumors has found some icons, some imagery for some smart battery cases,

00:02:12 ◼   ► which are very clearly for the new iPhone 11 models because the camera cut out is a huge square.

00:02:21 ◼   ► I am excited about this. I don't genuinely I don't know if I need it anymore though.

00:02:27 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah I was about to say I don't think I'm gonna get this one.

00:02:31 ◼   ► I don't think I am either. I just don't think it's necessary.

00:02:36 ◼   ► Yeah I mean unless you have a job that requires you to be in the field with a iPhone.

00:02:43 ◼   ► Oh yeah, there are always people right there.

00:02:45 ◼   ► Yes.

00:02:46 ◼   ► But like I said, I mean like for the travel day or you know for the conference day, I just

00:02:53 ◼   ► the battery life is so good now. I'm not sure that I'm gonna need it. Like I've already been

00:02:59 ◼   ► traveling with the phone and I'm gonna be again I think next week and I have not run into any

00:03:07 ◼   ► battery issues. Like I've always am able to charge in a like sensible way you know. Or like I went on

00:03:15 ◼   ► on a plane and they didn't have power in the seats,

00:03:19 ◼   ► but it wasn't an issue.

00:03:21 ◼   ► I mean, it's only a couple of hours, right,

00:03:22 ◼   ► the plane journey, but it wasn't, you know,

00:03:25 ◼   ► I have not seen any of the usual problems I would have seen.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Who knows where it will be in like six months,

00:03:31 ◼   ► like maybe it changes, right?

00:03:32 ◼   ► Like batteries tend to get worse

00:03:34 ◼   ► no matter what the battery graphs say,

00:03:36 ◼   ► they always seem to get worse over time.

00:03:38 ◼   ► But I don't feel the need for this case

00:03:43 ◼   ► I have other ones right now.

00:03:45 ◼   ► Yeah, I spent basically the past year

00:03:49 ◼   ► leaving the smart battery case always on on my tennis maps.

00:03:54 ◼   ► Yeah, there is for them again, unless you play Pokemon Go,

00:03:57 ◼   ► there is no need, I think, for like you to do that anymore.

00:04:02 ◼   ► Like, I know a friend of the show, Alex Cox, is like screaming at me.

00:04:05 ◼   ► So I'm thinking of them right now.

00:04:06 ◼   ► Alex plays Pokemon Go all the time.

00:04:11 ◼   ► and they have terrible battery life because of that.

00:04:15 ◼   ► So I desperately want the smart battery case.

00:04:18 ◼   ► But I think if for most kind of general usage, like someone like you

00:04:23 ◼   ► who was leaving on,

00:04:25 ◼   ► you don't need that anymore because you have the hours extra that you need.

00:04:29 ◼   ► Right. Yeah, I can.

00:04:32 ◼   ► Like my biggest problem with the older generation iPhones is I

00:04:37 ◼   ► something clicks in my brain whenever I see the 20% battery left alert and the icon turns red.

00:04:45 ◼   ► Like that fills me with a sense of dread and despair that is hard to describe. I shouldn't

00:04:50 ◼   ► be this way but I'm this way and you know I've accepted myself for who I am from this point of

00:04:56 ◼   ► view, thankfully. And so when I see that alert I almost like feel bad using my phone because it

00:05:04 ◼   ► it feels like I'm taking the plug off of its life support or something.

00:05:09 ◼   ► And so ideally I want to go to sleep at like 3 a.m. without ever seeing that alert.

00:05:15 ◼   ► And the iPhone 11 Pro Max makes that possible because this phone, like I usually wake up

00:05:19 ◼   ► at around 1030 or 11 a.m. and when I go to sleep at 3 a.m. or 4 a.m. when I'm playing

00:05:25 ◼   ► video games or something, it lasts me all day.

00:05:29 ◼   ► Like this phone only died on me once and that was because I spent the whole day out using

00:05:36 ◼   ► 4G and playing games and taking pictures.

00:05:39 ◼   ► I don't think I need this external case anymore.

00:05:42 ◼   ► Also because now I have my fancy wallet case and by the way the experiment has gone super

00:05:49 ◼   ► well.

00:05:50 ◼   ► Now it's become...

00:05:51 ◼   ► Yeah, now it's...

00:05:53 ◼   ► I put my actual wallet in a drawer because I don't use it anymore.

00:05:58 ◼   ► Now I just go out with my wallet case.

00:06:00 ◼   ► You know, Sylvia keeps the cash because she has a small purse, so she has the cash, and

00:06:06 ◼   ► I go out with just the wallet case and my phone.

00:06:10 ◼   ► Do you think there will be a time when you will stop switching the cases?

00:06:15 ◼   ► No, because it's too thick for using it around the house.

00:06:20 ◼   ► Is it thicker than the battery case was though?

00:06:22 ◼   ► No, but it's, I don't know.

00:06:25 ◼   ► It feels unnecessary.

00:06:26 ◼   ► And also it doesn't, here's the problem, it doesn't support, it's too thick, so it doesn't

00:06:33 ◼   ► support wireless charging.

00:06:35 ◼   ► But the battery case, even though it was thick, had support for that.

00:06:39 ◼   ► Nor does it support NFC scanning, so that's too bad.

00:06:44 ◼   ► But yeah.

00:06:46 ◼   ► There's no way it could, because all the cards would get in the way.

00:06:49 ◼   ► Well, the cards are at the bottom of the phone, which surprised me.

00:06:53 ◼   ► Here's a fun thought for you.

00:06:56 ◼   ► You can, if your cards have contactless in them, you can set them up as NFC triggers.

00:07:03 ◼   ► So you could like set one of the cards up as an NFC trigger for when you're leaving

00:07:08 ◼   ► the house.

00:07:09 ◼   ► I should do that actually.

00:07:10 ◼   ► You should try that, that might be a fun little thing to do.

00:07:13 ◼   ► My ATM card has a contactless chip in it, like yeah I should do it actually.

00:07:19 ◼   ► I mention this because I have an NFC sticker in my car and I tried to scan it yesterday

00:07:26 ◼   ► my wallet case and it didn't work? So maybe you should move that NFC trigger

00:07:31 ◼   ► to a card and see if that will work. I don't know how consistent that would be though.

00:07:35 ◼   ► But I'm not sure because the case is not that thick in the top section where the NFC antenna

00:07:41 ◼   ► is. Honestly I think your credit cards could be

00:07:44 ◼   ► blocking the signal. But they are at the bottom of the wallet.

00:07:49 ◼   ► That's a good point. I don't know. Maybe it was a 13.2 bug, which

00:07:53 ◼   ► Which I'll be surprised.

00:07:54 ◼   ► We're going to talk about it later.

00:07:55 ◼   ► Wait, there's bugs in iOS?

00:07:56 ◼   ► No!

00:07:57 ◼   ► No.

00:07:58 ◼   ► Come on Federico!

00:07:59 ◼   ► Every bug is an illusion.

00:08:01 ◼   ► It's a shame to buy into a meme like this but at this point I don't really know how

00:08:05 ◼   ► not to.

00:08:07 ◼   ► Software is buggy right now.

00:08:08 ◼   ► It's funny also.

00:08:10 ◼   ► It is also funny.

00:08:11 ◼   ► You know, I don't really, I don't spend too much time feeling guilty about complaining

00:08:17 ◼   ► that people are working on software and I make fun of it.

00:08:21 ◼   ► But every now and then I'm like, "Ah, there is somebody working on it."

00:08:25 ◼   ► But, you know, what are you supposed to do?

00:08:28 ◼   ► Like, I figure it's not every individual's fault, it's the situation that they find themselves

00:08:32 ◼   ► in, but it is still funny.

00:08:34 ◼   ► I mean, the very internet is predicated upon the idea that anything should be memeable.

00:08:40 ◼   ► That's true.

00:08:41 ◼   ► Even if it's made by somebody else.

00:08:43 ◼   ► I know that word.

00:08:44 ◼   ► You know, it's the fact that humans are horrible like that.

00:08:47 ◼   ► So people make these kind of jokes about us all the time.

00:08:51 ◼   ► So like that's just like.

00:08:52 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:08:53 ◼   ► People have memes about Mac stories I'm sure somewhere around some private slacks or something.

00:08:57 ◼   ► Or on Twitter.

00:08:58 ◼   ► Well you know.

00:08:59 ◼   ► I see a lot of memes about me on Reddit.

00:09:01 ◼   ► So but I love them.

00:09:03 ◼   ► I love them.

00:09:04 ◼   ► Well that's a whole different situation that you have.

00:09:08 ◼   ► Samsung has shown off a new folding phone.

00:09:11 ◼   ► Okay.

00:09:12 ◼   ► It is a concept.

00:09:13 ◼   ► They showed it up yesterday at the developer conference.

00:09:17 ◼   ► This was how they showed off the original one. It was like a concept quote unquote at

00:09:22 ◼   ► Samsung's developer conference, SDC. This is a flip phone concept.

00:09:31 ◼   ► So the screen, you know, it like unfolds to become long and vertical. It's effectively

00:09:36 ◼   ► a flip phone. Now, a flip phone makes a lot more sense if you think about it for right

00:09:44 ◼   ► now for what Samsung seemed to be able to do because as we knew flip phones

00:09:49 ◼   ► they were phones that had a screen inside and a small screen on the outside right

00:09:52 ◼   ► that was what a flip phone used to look like now imagine if you could have

00:09:57 ◼   ► something kind of like iPhone sides maybe but you could fold it in half and

00:10:01 ◼   ► put it in your pocket that might be kind of cool right and it's got a little

00:10:04 ◼   ► screen on the front for notifications looks like a little Apple watch or

00:10:08 ◼   ► something you know? That could be cool. So does it fold inwards? Yes.

00:10:14 ◼   ► Samsung will write in the inwards. So when it's closed you cannot use it?

00:10:20 ◼   ► They haven't shown off anything other than an inwards screen folding in on

00:10:24 ◼   ► itself right like they haven't even shown if it would have an outside screen

00:10:28 ◼   ► but because really it's just like this is a concept they didn't actually show

00:10:33 ◼   ► any hardware they just showed how a user experience would look but this is a

00:10:38 ◼   ► phone we are working on.

00:10:39 ◼   ► Motorola is also apparently working on a razor phone.

00:10:42 ◼   ► I think they have an event in a couple of weeks

00:10:44 ◼   ► where they are expected to be showing off a foldable razor phone.

00:10:48 ◼   ► Oh, it'd be funny if when it's folded like the outside screen

00:10:53 ◼   ► is like a little Tamagotchi.

00:10:55 ◼   ► Now I would love that.

00:10:57 ◼   ► Like a tiny square.

00:10:58 ◼   ► And you can, you know, keep track of your apps.

00:11:01 ◼   ► And that would be very nice.

00:11:03 ◼   ► Are you going to feed the phone?

00:11:04 ◼   ► You got to feed the apps, man, during the day.

00:11:07 ◼   ► otherwise they die. You gotta feed Twitter with a hot take otherwise it will just

00:11:12 ◼   ► shrivel up. You know that I lost my Pikachu Tamagotchi when I was little

00:11:16 ◼   ► right? I told you this story before. I don't know. Yeah Nintendo made a special

00:11:21 ◼   ► Pikachu edition of some sort of Tamagotchi. It was yellow. It was yellow yeah I

00:11:26 ◼   ► remember this. I remember this. And it became sort of like my dad didn't want

00:11:31 ◼   ► to get a dog for me. Oh it looked like a little Gameboy right? Yeah it did.

00:11:36 ◼   ► Pokemon Pikachu it was called.

00:11:38 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:11:39 ◼   ► And so my mom got me a virtual pet,

00:11:42 ◼   ► in this case a virtual Pikachu,

00:11:44 ◼   ► and I really cared about it.

00:11:47 ◼   ► Spent several minutes every day

00:11:51 ◼   ► looking after the Pikachu.

00:11:55 ◼   ► And then one day I lost it and I was super sad

00:11:58 ◼   ► and my dad didn't care about it at all.

00:12:00 ◼   ► Like didn't even bother to check where I could have lost it.

00:12:04 ◼   ► and I still hold that grudge to this day, honestly.

00:12:08 ◼   ► Like, he should have looked for that Pikachu for me.

00:12:11 ◼   ► But yeah, so Tamagotchi and me, you know,

00:12:15 ◼   ► not a good relationship.

00:12:16 ◼   ► But still, I will love a modern version, you know?

00:12:19 ◼   ► With apps.

00:12:21 ◼   ► I'm sorry, it's a sad story, I'm sorry.

00:12:23 ◼   ► - That's okay.

00:12:24 ◼   ► I'm just thinking this is probably a record,

00:12:27 ◼   ► 'cause whenever Steven's away,

00:12:29 ◼   ► we inevitably talk about Pokemon,

00:12:31 ◼   ► and we've been recording for about 10 minutes

00:12:34 ◼   ► before it came up this time.

00:12:36 ◼   ► It's probably to do with the fact that like

00:12:38 ◼   ► there is a new Pokemon game in two weeks

00:12:40 ◼   ► and we both pre-ordered it today.

00:12:42 ◼   ► So Pokemon on the brain.

00:12:44 ◼   ► - Always.

00:12:46 ◼   ► - But Samsung, they're doing their thing.

00:12:49 ◼   ► I figured I had to talk about it

00:12:50 ◼   ► 'cause like a million people sent me the link today

00:12:53 ◼   ► over the last 24 hours.

00:12:54 ◼   ► I had to mention it.

00:12:55 ◼   ► That was my folding phone corner.

00:12:57 ◼   ► How about this?

00:12:59 ◼   ► The first services bundle from Apple is real

00:13:03 ◼   ► and weirdly announced.

00:13:05 ◼   ► So this was announced on Hailee Steinfeld,

00:13:10 ◼   ► who is the star of Dickinson, the Apple TV+ show.

00:13:13 ◼   ► She announced it on her Instagram,

00:13:15 ◼   ► but this is the perfect place for the type of bundle.

00:13:18 ◼   ► This is Apple TV+ is free for students

00:13:22 ◼   ► that subscribe to Apple Music.

00:13:24 ◼   ► - That's a good deal.

00:13:28 ◼   ► - Right, now this is the first one.

00:13:30 ◼   ► I still think that there will be more, but if you are a student subscriber to Apple Music,

00:13:38 ◼   ► then you will be able to get yourself Apple TV+ for free, like it's just included in the

00:13:45 ◼   ► bundle.

00:13:46 ◼   ► So that's something.

00:13:49 ◼   ► They really want as many people as possible to check out Apple TV+.

00:13:53 ◼   ► Yep.

00:13:54 ◼   ► The student plan, by the way, is a £4.99 plan.

00:13:56 ◼   ► Yep.

00:13:57 ◼   ► Yep.

00:13:58 ◼   ► first ads here in London for Apple TV+ today. I saw two double decker buses. I think it

00:14:06 ◼   ► was just coincidence. One had an ad for the morning show and one had an ad for C. And

00:14:12 ◼   ► the ads were good but they were missing something pretty important. So they had the logo of

00:14:19 ◼   ► the show and an image.

00:14:20 ◼   ► Oh no. There was no link?

00:14:22 ◼   ► It just said Apple TV+.

00:14:24 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:14:25 ◼   ► There was no URL of any kind.

00:14:28 ◼   ► Now, me and Adina were walking along,

00:14:32 ◼   ► I was like, "Oh look, they're the first ones."

00:14:34 ◼   ► I said, "That's weird, they have no link."

00:14:35 ◼   ► And she said, "Oh, well, 'cause people will just know

00:14:37 ◼   ► they can only watch it on their iPhone."

00:14:39 ◼   ► And I was like, "Well, that's where you're wrong."

00:14:41 ◼   ► And that's the problem.

00:14:42 ◼   ► I think that will be the assumption that like,

00:14:45 ◼   ► you see this, you see Apple and you think,

00:14:47 ◼   ► "Oh, I'll watch it on my iPhone."

00:14:48 ◼   ► But Apple have gone to great lengths

00:14:51 ◼   ► to make this available to everybody, right?

00:14:53 ◼   ► There is a web version. It's on Fire TV.

00:14:56 ◼   ► It's on smart TVs.

00:14:57 ◼   ► But they gave no information.

00:14:59 ◼   ► To be fair, they do

00:15:01 ◼   ► put, and I noticed this myself and a friend of mine also asked me about it.

00:15:04 ◼   ► The Apple TV icon by default, they put it in the dock when you update the Catalina,

00:15:10 ◼   ► which is, you know, growth hack, super gross.

00:15:14 ◼   ► But, you know, I get it.

00:15:16 ◼   ► I just think that like and again, I know people will Google.

00:15:19 ◼   ► Right. Like I understand that.

00:15:21 ◼   ► And that's probably what they decided to do.

00:15:23 ◼   ► But I think even if you don't put a link,

00:15:26 ◼   ► they should have tried--

00:15:27 ◼   ► - They should have.

00:15:28 ◼   ► - They should be doing something to try and tell people

00:15:32 ◼   ► that it's available even if you don't own an Apple product.

00:15:35 ◼   ► Right, 'cause like that's important.

00:15:39 ◼   ► But we'll see, I mean Friday, can't wait,

00:15:42 ◼   ► big day, November 1st, Apple TV Plus.

00:15:44 ◼   ► I'm sure we'll have some stuff to say about it next week.

00:15:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, I just wanted to spend a minute,

00:15:48 ◼   ► this is not in the document, I'm sorry Myke,

00:15:50 ◼   ► I just thought of it. - It's okay.

00:15:51 ◼   ► And, you know, a quick appreciation of family sharing.

00:15:57 ◼   ► Let me tell you why.

00:15:59 ◼   ► I.

00:15:59 ◼   ► Sylvia's sister, she lives in Spain now,

00:16:02 ◼   ► she comes back to visit every few months, and I spent a few hours last week,

00:16:10 ◼   ► she was here setting up a family sharing account on her phone.

00:16:15 ◼   ► We have been using family sharing with Sylvia for the past two, three years,

00:16:21 ◼   ► since it became available essentially.

00:16:22 ◼   ► And it's the iOS feature that allows you to share,

00:16:25 ◼   ► among other things, your iCloud drive space

00:16:29 ◼   ► with other family members.

00:16:31 ◼   ► And I have a two terabyte plan,

00:16:32 ◼   ► and so that's planning for me and Silvia.

00:16:35 ◼   ► But then over the years, I also added Silvia's mom

00:16:38 ◼   ► and my mom to this family sharing plan,

00:16:40 ◼   ► just because it allows me to make sure

00:16:43 ◼   ► that everybody can back up their iPhone.

00:16:45 ◼   ► They don't need to worry about paying or signing up.

00:16:49 ◼   ► We talked about this, people don't want to use their credit cards online.

00:16:52 ◼   ► My mom is one of those people, Sylvia's mom is one of those people.

00:16:55 ◼   ► So now I take care of the process for them.

00:16:58 ◼   ► I pay for iCloud, I pay for Apple Music and everything is shared.

00:17:01 ◼   ► I also added Sylvia's sister to the plan.

00:17:04 ◼   ► And yes, we are using a, you know,

00:17:07 ◼   ► it required because I have a US Apple ID and, you know,

00:17:12 ◼   ► it's a whole deal of like setting up a new US based Apple ID.

00:17:17 ◼   ► And yeah, it's, but I, over the years,

00:17:20 ◼   ► I've learned how to optimize this process, you know,

00:17:22 ◼   ► creating a new iCloud account,

00:17:23 ◼   ► moving things between iCloud accounts.

00:17:25 ◼   ► And yeah, I just wanted to say that it works super well.

00:17:29 ◼   ► Like I now have five people in my family sharing plan.

00:17:33 ◼   ► So I think I've almost reached,

00:17:36 ◼   ► there's another person that I could add.

00:17:38 ◼   ► But yeah, we share Apple Music, we share iCloud Drive now.

00:17:42 ◼   ► Everybody's happy, everybody's using iCloud Photo Library.

00:17:45 ◼   ► Everybody's using iCloud backup,

00:17:48 ◼   ► and everybody can listen to Apple Music,

00:17:50 ◼   ► and it's super fine, it works well.

00:17:52 ◼   ► Could be better, like there should be a dashboard,

00:17:55 ◼   ► like a dashboard app to actually manage all of this info

00:17:58 ◼   ► instead of going to settings.

00:17:59 ◼   ► There should be something like Picnic,

00:18:01 ◼   ► which is a family sharing type service

00:18:04 ◼   ► that gives you a dashboard, and you can chat,

00:18:06 ◼   ► and you can have shared calendars in a single view.

00:18:08 ◼   ► But even without a dashboard, it works really well.

00:18:11 ◼   ► - Let me ask you a question.

00:18:13 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:18:14 ◼   ► So, because I've thought about family sharing a bunch for me and Idina.

00:18:17 ◼   ► Is it possible for me to like for her to keep her current Apple ID

00:18:24 ◼   ► and come into a family?

00:18:27 ◼   ► Like, so I set mine up as like the family owner

00:18:30 ◼   ► and she keeps all of her previous purchases.

00:18:32 ◼   ► And then then like with her current Apple ID, then it becomes a family.

00:18:37 ◼   ► And then we can benefit from having the same purchases.

00:18:39 ◼   ► I think so.

00:18:41 ◼   ► I am positive that's the way that it works.

00:18:44 ◼   ► My setup is slightly different because I've always had a US Apple ID since I started using the iPhone 10 years ago.

00:18:51 ◼   ► Sylvia and her sister, they didn't. So they needed to move between Apple IDs.

00:18:56 ◼   ► But I do think that if you're based in the same region and you don't need to do anything weird like I do,

00:19:02 ◼   ► just UK to UK, you can totally invite an existing Apple ID and that Apple ID keeps their previous purchases.

00:19:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:19:10 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:19:11 ◼   ► You should look it up just to be sure you don't want to be responsible.

00:19:15 ◼   ► Yeah, I think I might do it though.

00:19:16 ◼   ► I think I might do it.

00:19:17 ◼   ► There's just more and more benefits to doing this, right?

00:19:19 ◼   ► Like Apple Arcade being one of them.

00:19:20 ◼   ► Yes, also Apple Arcade.

00:19:21 ◼   ► Like she was talking about signing up, but there's no need.

00:19:24 ◼   ► If like I'm already paying, she doesn't need to pay for it as well.

00:19:28 ◼   ► People in the chat are saying, past the boy in the chat is saying, we can just add, I

00:19:32 ◼   ► could just add her Apple ID to this family.

00:19:35 ◼   ► And even the invitation process, you can do it in three ways I believe.

00:19:40 ◼   ► can invite over email, you can invite over iMessage, or you can even invite them in person,

00:19:47 ◼   ► the new member gets to type in their Apple ID, email, and password on your phone when

00:19:53 ◼   ► you do it, if they don't have a device to do it right now.

00:19:57 ◼   ► So it's very nicely done.

00:20:00 ◼   ► It was a bit bumpy at the beginning, but now it's gotten much better.

00:20:05 ◼   ► Try always, like, don't do anything weird like our friend John Voorhees.

00:20:09 ◼   ► did for example last year. Creating a fake child. He created a fake child for

00:20:15 ◼   ► family sharing and that child cannot be removed until they turn 18 so it's gonna

00:20:20 ◼   ► have a fake user in his family sharing for 18 years now. That story never gets old.

00:20:31 ◼   ► It's so John, it's so perfect. But yeah, family sharing. I just wanted to say that I

00:20:36 ◼   ► I appreciate the way that it works.

00:20:38 ◼   ► Could be better, but it's already a pretty sweet deal, actually.

00:20:41 ◼   ► The only downside, maybe, you cannot share app subscriptions.

00:20:48 ◼   ► So third-party subscriptions for apps like Ulysses or Bear,

00:20:53 ◼   ► those I believe they cannot be shared.

00:20:55 ◼   ► -Right, but we could both just have our own, right?

00:20:58 ◼   ► -Yes, of course. -Right, because it's like,

00:20:59 ◼   ► you know, we don't share them right now, at least,

00:21:03 ◼   ► but we don't share anything.

00:21:05 ◼   ► So, yeah, I think I might look at,

00:21:07 ◼   ► I think I might do it.

00:21:08 ◼   ► I think I might do it.

00:21:09 ◼   ► I'm gonna, well, I'll ask if she would want that

00:21:12 ◼   ► and then we'll see.

00:21:12 ◼   ► - Sure, sure. - If that's something

00:21:13 ◼   ► that we'll do.

00:21:14 ◼   ► All right, let's take a break.

00:21:15 ◼   ► We still got a little bit of follow up though.

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00:23:00 ◼   ► I saw today FCC approval has been granted to the Mac Pro.

00:23:06 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:07 ◼   ► Great news, right?

00:23:09 ◼   ► Sure, yeah.

00:23:11 ◼   ► I especially wanted to bring that up when it was just me and you,

00:23:15 ◼   ► because I just thought it would be funny.

00:23:16 ◼   ► I'm all for, you know, the government approving new professional Macintoshes.

00:23:23 ◼   ► It's like your two favorite things, governments and professional mackintoshes.

00:23:27 ◼   ► The hammer of the state and the power of the Macintosh. That's

00:23:35 ◼   ► what we're known for on this program.

00:23:38 ◼   ► The hammer of the state and the power of the Macintosh. The two tenants of Connected.

00:23:43 ◼   ► Absolutely. It fills me with such a pure joy and delight knowing that the US government,

00:23:52 ◼   ► has officially approved the Macintosh Pro that you honestly have no idea how I feel.

00:23:58 ◼   ► The Macintosh Professional.

00:23:59 ◼   ► The Macintosh Professional is my most anticipated computer of the day.

00:24:08 ◼   ► The day, just today. Today's most anticipated computer.

00:24:13 ◼   ► Do you think it's weird that we don't know when these are shipping?

00:24:18 ◼   ► Yes, it's not surprising.

00:24:21 ◼   ► I believe it basically happened the same with the original trash can.

00:24:26 ◼   ► Oh, the iMac Pro as well.

00:24:27 ◼   ► And the iMac Pro as well.

00:24:29 ◼   ► I don't know why Apple likes to do this, honestly.

00:24:32 ◼   ► Like, what's so difficult about a date?

00:24:35 ◼   ► You can still do the embargoes.

00:24:36 ◼   ► You can still do the behind the scenes, you know, press tours and briefings.

00:24:41 ◼   ► You can still do all of that.

00:24:43 ◼   ► Just give people a date, like even a window.

00:24:46 ◼   ► Like it comes out in December.

00:24:48 ◼   ► and everybody starts saving their money.

00:24:50 ◼   ► We have until the 22nd of December.

00:24:53 ◼   ► Sure.

00:24:53 ◼   ► Because that's when fall ends.

00:24:55 ◼   ► And you really be a little more precise.

00:24:56 ◼   ► That's a long time.

00:24:58 ◼   ► That's still a long time to wait on this product.

00:25:01 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:25:01 ◼   ► But there you go.

00:25:03 ◼   ► Fall.

00:25:04 ◼   ► Or the autumn.

00:25:06 ◼   ► The autumn, it's a very good word.

00:25:09 ◼   ► So yeah, it's approved.

00:25:11 ◼   ► You know, there's a whole industry of,

00:25:14 ◼   ► this is totally a tangent,

00:25:15 ◼   ► But there's a whole industry of folks who know how to operate these websites,

00:25:21 ◼   ► like the FCC and the US government patent office website.

00:25:26 ◼   ► They know how to find stuff there.

00:25:30 ◼   ► I have no idea how to do it.

00:25:32 ◼   ► Like, I wonder if they have a shortcut or some app that looks into the FCC database.

00:25:38 ◼   ► Like, how do they do it?

00:25:38 ◼   ► Or like when they when you see those reports of like two new MacBook models have been

00:25:44 ◼   ► spotted in the Eurasia database.

00:25:46 ◼   ► Like, how do you even do it?

00:25:48 ◼   ► Yeah, that is true.

00:25:49 ◼   ► Employees working there and feeding you info, like, how does it happen?

00:25:53 ◼   ► There's a whole...

00:25:54 ◼   ► There's also this like whole weird thing about like,

00:25:57 ◼   ► the iPhones don't do this.

00:26:00 ◼   ► There's like a secret approval process

00:26:03 ◼   ► for some products.

00:26:06 ◼   ► Because I remember, I believe if my memory serves,

00:26:11 ◼   ► Apple and other companies really kind of petitioned the FCC for this when new smartphones started becoming a thing.

00:26:18 ◼   ► So the FCC didn't ruin a product introduction.

00:26:22 ◼   ► Because FCC approval documents include diagrams of the product.

00:26:27 ◼   ► So this FCC for the Mac Pro, it has to be done before they can release it.

00:26:33 ◼   ► Now, they can't do that for the iPhone, right?

00:26:36 ◼   ► You can't do the FCC approval in public before it's announced.

00:26:39 ◼   ► because then everyone will see it. So the FCC approval is like sealed I think it's called.

00:26:44 ◼   ► Like and so it's like you never see it right like they don't release the documentation.

00:26:49 ◼   ► So obviously Apple hasn't bothered to do that because we all know about the Mac bro.

00:26:52 ◼   ► But it's just kind of this funny thing of like all of this stuff being public like what is this

00:26:58 ◼   ► Eurasia database? Why can't they do it? Like it's very peculiar. Yeah yeah I don't know.

00:27:05 ◼   ► Sometimes I... maybe there's a word for this.

00:27:09 ◼   ► Sometimes I think about how many professions exist in the world.

00:27:16 ◼   ► Like if you look at any object around you and you realize, you know, there's...

00:27:24 ◼   ► Somebody is an expert about this.

00:27:27 ◼   ► And there's people that work with them on this.

00:27:31 ◼   ► And there's other people that also work with them.

00:27:34 ◼   ► And like, it's mind-boggling when you think about how many jobs and different professions exist

00:27:39 ◼   ► and how many people are experts in different fields. And in this case, you know, FCC and

00:27:44 ◼   ► government of... Like, there's somebody up there who's an expert in government approval of

00:27:49 ◼   ► electronic devices from Apple. Like, that's very specific. And yet we all take it for granted and

00:27:55 ◼   ► we talk about it as if it's just something that happens. But no, there's people behind it. And

00:28:01 ◼   ► And I find that oddly fascinating.

00:28:03 ◼   ► That's what I think about in my day.

00:28:06 ◼   ► - I don't know why you think about it,

00:28:09 ◼   ► but when you explain it like that, I agree with you.

00:28:13 ◼   ► - Okay, good.

00:28:14 ◼   ► - Does Google Docs include multi-window support?

00:28:17 ◼   ► - Yes, but only on the Mac Pro.

00:28:19 ◼   ► - Ah, okay, that's good to know.

00:28:21 ◼   ► - No. - The Macintosh Professional.

00:28:23 ◼   ► - No, it's still not there, I'm sorry.

00:28:28 ◼   ► iOS 13.2, watchOS 6.1, they're both out.

00:28:33 ◼   ► You can share audio.

00:28:35 ◼   ► Have you done this yet?

00:28:36 ◼   ► I haven't done it yet, but I know you can do it.

00:28:39 ◼   ► - Few weeks ago, I tested it and it worked.

00:28:42 ◼   ► I haven't done it since because I, you know,

00:28:44 ◼   ► Sylvia doesn't want to listen to my music.

00:28:46 ◼   ► - There is very few times that I can see myself doing this,

00:28:50 ◼   ► but in the times that I would want to do it,

00:28:51 ◼   ► it will be very useful.

00:28:53 ◼   ► Right, like watching a movie on a plane or something,

00:28:57 ◼   ► you know, with my wife would be really useful to be able to do this.

00:29:00 ◼   ► There have been multiple times I've been like, I wish I had a headphone splitter,

00:29:03 ◼   ► but I don't have those things anymore that I don't just always have them

00:29:07 ◼   ► lying around, especially when I'm using wireless headphones.

00:29:10 ◼   ► But this will I think this is a feature that I will get some use out of.

00:29:14 ◼   ► And when I do remember to use it, I'll be very happy.

00:29:16 ◼   ► What else of interest to you is in 13.2?

00:29:21 ◼   ► Well, Deep Fusion is out.

00:29:24 ◼   ► OK, I was talking about this on upgrade of Jason.

00:29:27 ◼   ► I'm a little bit frustrated about Deep Fusion Federico.

00:29:30 ◼   ► Are you?

00:29:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:29:32 ◼   ► Why?

00:29:33 ◼   ► Because I have no idea if it works or not.

00:29:37 ◼   ► And or what it's doing for me.

00:29:40 ◼   ► Yeah, that's the point.

00:29:42 ◼   ► They don't want you to think about it.

00:29:44 ◼   ► So I kind of wish that they'd never told me about it.

00:29:48 ◼   ► Yeah, I can see what you mean.

00:29:51 ◼   ► Especially for people like us that we like to know how things work.

00:29:55 ◼   ► they positioned it in the same way they positioned portrait mode. The whole thing.

00:30:00 ◼   ► We're gonna tell you about a camera thing, we're gonna show you how amazing it is,

00:30:03 ◼   ► Matt Panzareno is gonna write a big article about it, but the difference is

00:30:08 ◼   ► like I have no control and I have no idea when it's when it's in effect.

00:30:14 ◼   ► There's something I've noticed about the camera. I have one little complaint about

00:30:18 ◼   ► the camera. Sometimes photos look very dark like there is like a sharpness that

00:30:25 ◼   ► they have to them. I don't know whether this is some kind of deep fusion thing

00:30:30 ◼   ► or it's a night mode thing or just a low-light thing in general but I've

00:30:35 ◼   ► noticed that some photos I take they seem to have this like like like the

00:30:39 ◼   ► sharpness or the clarity has been pumped up quite a bit but I'm struggling to put

00:30:44 ◼   ► my finger on it. It's like the lighting is a little weird somehow. But anyway, Deep Fusion

00:30:49 ◼   ► is kind of basically the way where I am with Deep Fusion now is I'm gonna choose to forget about it.

00:30:57 ◼   ► Yeah you should. We're not supposed to think about it. I wonder if maybe there should be some way to

00:31:06 ◼   ► communicate this. Even just for those who really want to go look for it,

00:31:13 ◼   ► have some metadata in the photo that you can inspect if you really want to

00:31:18 ◼   ► double-check and confirm. So I've been thinking about this as well, right? This

00:31:23 ◼   ► was never supposed to be a thing. They just didn't have this ready in time.

00:31:28 ◼   ► Wasn't supposed to be like an update. It was never supposed to be like

00:31:33 ◼   ► Like we have this thing called Deep Fusion.

00:31:35 ◼   ► This was just supposed to be in part of the camera.

00:31:38 ◼   ► IOS 13, as part of the camera and then they were going to say we're now doing this thing

00:31:43 ◼   ► in some lighting conditions.

00:31:45 ◼   ► It was just going to be part of the camera presentation where they spoke about how the

00:31:49 ◼   ► camera works.

00:31:51 ◼   ► I feel like there was never supposed to be this period of time where Deep Fusion didn't

00:31:57 ◼   ► exist.

00:31:58 ◼   ► never the intention purely because there is like no setting for it it doesn't

00:32:04 ◼   ► exist in iOS it's not written down anywhere you can't find it right like I

00:32:08 ◼   ► feel like it was supposed to be in 13 as a feature it took a little too long and

00:32:14 ◼   ► they bumped it spoke about it as this big thing that was coming out but it

00:32:18 ◼   ► wasn't in the same way that they did portrait mode like really this is just

00:32:21 ◼   ► like an update to the camera it's not a new shooting mode and I think that

00:32:27 ◼   ► really it was supposed to be the default shooting mode because it just muddies things quite

00:32:31 ◼   ► a lot, it makes things difficult, right?

00:32:33 ◼   ► Like when it comes to camera reviews of the phone against other smartphones and stuff,

00:32:38 ◼   ► Apple would have obviously much preferred it to have all of its stocks in a row beforehand.

00:32:42 ◼   ► I expected it was supposed to be part of just the release and it just didn't make it.

00:32:47 ◼   ► Yeah, I agree.

00:32:49 ◼   ► They don't want you to think about it as a feature, but we received it as such with an

00:32:56 ◼   ► update.

00:32:57 ◼   ► So you can now change, if you have an iPhone 11 or an iPhone 11 Pro, you can now change settings for

00:33:05 ◼   ► video resolution and frame rates inside the camera app. So it's not the best UI, you basically need to

00:33:16 ◼   ► tap on labels that do not look like tappable buttons, but if you do you can toggle between

00:33:23 ◼   ► formats and frame rates so you don't need to open settings to do it anymore

00:33:27 ◼   ► you can do it within the camera app from the viewfinder. Some changes to shortcuts

00:33:32 ◼   ► on iPhone and iPad there's two new actions one is set noise control this

00:33:40 ◼   ► works with AirPods Pro and I believe the new Beats Solo Pro as well it's new in

00:33:45 ◼   ► 13.2 and it's an action that lets you choose whether you want to use the

00:33:49 ◼   ► active noise cancellation or transparency mode or just turn it off.

00:33:55 ◼   ► And you can now do it with the shortcut which is convenient because it means you

00:33:59 ◼   ► can create widgets for it, you can create custom menus for it or you can even

00:34:05 ◼   ► send this to me on Twitter, which is a great idea. You can set up an

00:34:11 ◼   ► automation so that if you have 13.2 and watchOS 6.1, every time you

00:34:18 ◼   ► start a workout you can toggle transparency mode on. So that like if

00:34:23 ◼   ► you're going for a walk or run outside you can still make sure that you hear

00:34:27 ◼   ► traffic around you or people around you. So that's very clever because the

00:34:32 ◼   ► shortcuts can now detect if you're starting a specific type of workout or

00:34:36 ◼   ► any workout. It's part of the automation triggers now and it works if you have

00:34:42 ◼   ► watchOS 6.1 and you can combine that with the new noise control action for

00:34:47 ◼   ► AirPods. There's also a new handoff playback action that lets you handoff audio playing from

00:34:55 ◼   ► your iPhone or iPad to a HomePod or to an AirPlay 2 speaker, I believe, and to an Apple TV. Of course,

00:35:04 ◼   ► I wrote about it, but of course the HomePod software update had to be pulled because it was

00:35:11 ◼   ► breaking people's HomePods. And I also think the multi-user thing is horrifically buggy. Yeah,

00:35:16 ◼   ► Yeah, it was broken.

00:35:18 ◼   ► But there's a new action you can hand off playback.

00:35:21 ◼   ► And if you were one of the few people who managed to install 13.2 on your HomePod,

00:35:25 ◼   ► you can try it out.

00:35:26 ◼   ► I made a couple of shortcuts that you can download on Mac Stories

00:35:29 ◼   ► if you want to have a custom menu for audio handoff.

00:35:32 ◼   ► How does that work?

00:35:34 ◼   ► Okay, so that's a good question.

00:35:36 ◼   ► I believe it works in two different ways.

00:35:38 ◼   ► So if you're trying to hand off audio for Apple Music and Apple Podcasts,

00:35:43 ◼   ► My understanding is that they get special treatment.

00:35:47 ◼   ► That's already happening right now in a different feature.

00:35:52 ◼   ► So what happens with this action is it transfers

00:35:57 ◼   ► the audio session entirely from your iPhone or iPad

00:36:02 ◼   ► to the HomePod.

00:36:04 ◼   ► If you try with third-party apps or other apps,

00:36:08 ◼   ► they just initiate an AirPlay streaming session

00:36:13 ◼   ► from your source device to the speaker.

00:36:16 ◼   ► So you're gonna see iPhone,

00:36:18 ◼   ► right pointing arrow, HomePod in control center.

00:36:25 ◼   ► When you're streaming from your phone to a speaker.

00:36:29 ◼   ► Apple Music and Podcast, they get special treatment

00:36:31 ◼   ► just like they already were getting special treatment before

00:36:35 ◼   ► in how you can start a completely separate session

00:36:42 ◼   ► on a HomePod or without touching the audio

00:36:45 ◼   ► that's playing on your phone.

00:36:47 ◼   ► That's how it works.

00:36:48 ◼   ► But it's nice because you have choice.

00:36:51 ◼   ► You can do the special transfer for music and podcasts,

00:36:55 ◼   ► or you can just transfer a handoff any audio from any app.

00:36:59 ◼   ► I tried with AirPlay One and AirPlay Two,

00:37:01 ◼   ► and it always works.

00:37:02 ◼   ► It's very nice.

00:37:03 ◼   ► - Do you know how the Proximity One is working?

00:37:06 ◼   ► - I know that it's working for me.

00:37:08 ◼   ► It's very nice.

00:37:09 ◼   ► I don't know how it's working.

00:37:10 ◼   ► Because it feels like NFC, like it's the same kind of action.

00:37:14 ◼   ► You don't need to tap, you can wave your phone slightly like on top of the HomePod.

00:37:19 ◼   ► I don't know what kind of sensor it's using though, honestly.

00:37:23 ◼   ► Yeah, it's weird, right? Like how does it know? I don't know how it knows.

00:37:27 ◼   ► I'm very confused about it.

00:37:29 ◼   ► Me too. And speaking of proximity, Myke, do we know if Apple ever shipped or...

00:37:35 ◼   ► I know they shipped it, but have they ever fixed the position-aware airdrop thing?

00:37:41 ◼   ► I don't know how it's supposed to work.

00:37:43 ◼   ► Me neither, I just keep spinning my phone.

00:37:45 ◼   ► Like, when I... if I have the two phones and I move one to the other, it vibrates, right?

00:37:50 ◼   ► To like, indicate to me... but like, nothing transfers.

00:37:54 ◼   ► I still have to press a button, like, I don't understand what's happening with that airdrop thing.

00:37:59 ◼   ► Yeah, sometimes I see a message that says "raise your phone".

00:38:03 ◼   ► Like, what does it even mean?

00:38:05 ◼   ► I think you're not supposed to like, hold the phone horizontally.

00:38:09 ◼   ► Yeah, but when I'm pointing to the other phone, nothing happens.

00:38:15 ◼   ► Yeah, it's very confusing.

00:38:16 ◼   ► I don't understand it.

00:38:17 ◼   ► It feels like a feature that they

00:38:20 ◼   ► didn't show off for a reason.

00:38:23 ◼   ► Because it doesn't work.

00:38:24 ◼   ► They just haven't bothered to make it work.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Maybe it's Apple's secret plan to let you exercise your arms.

00:38:30 ◼   ► - It's spinning, spinning around. - Deep airdrop fusion.

00:38:34 ◼   ► Yes.

00:38:36 ◼   ► Other fixes and improvements in 13.2.

00:38:38 ◼   ► There's now a listening history section in Apple Music,

00:38:42 ◼   ► in the Music app, when you open the Up Next queue.

00:38:46 ◼   ► If you swipe up, you can see your listening history,

00:38:50 ◼   ► any track that you listened to before.

00:38:52 ◼   ► It's very nice that you have a record,

00:38:54 ◼   ► you have a history of the music you listen to.

00:38:59 ◼   ► I'm very happy to report, Michael, that the ability to drag apps, app icons out of Spotlight

00:39:08 ◼   ► is back in iPadOS.

00:39:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:11 ◼   ► Was it ever gone?

00:39:12 ◼   ► Because I've been doing it the whole time.

00:39:15 ◼   ► I believe it was broken for a lot of people.

00:39:17 ◼   ► I think one of the things that you had to do was press the home button on a keyboard

00:39:21 ◼   ► and it would work for me.

00:39:22 ◼   ► Right?

00:39:23 ◼   ► So I think that might have been the reason that I was getting it to work.

00:39:26 ◼   ► I was pressing the ask key on my Logitech keyboard.

00:39:29 ◼   ► There you go.

00:39:30 ◼   ► But now you don't need to press the key anymore.

00:39:32 ◼   ► Now it's the way that it used to be in iOS 12.

00:39:35 ◼   ► I've now I've given up the Apple will fix the dragging an icon from the home screen.

00:39:41 ◼   ► They clearly not have no intention of fixing that.

00:39:43 ◼   ► They broke that and now they're not going to fix it.

00:39:46 ◼   ► Right. That you could because you used to be able to like tap and hold on an icon and drag it,

00:39:51 ◼   ► then tap another one, it would open that app and you could drop the second app onto SplitView.

00:39:58 ◼   ► All it does is it creates a stack to put in a folder, which doesn't make any sense.

00:40:02 ◼   ► Now there's going to be people, you know, please don't tell Myke that you can still

00:40:07 ◼   ► sort of do it.

00:40:08 ◼   ► No you can't.

00:40:09 ◼   ► I don't care what anyone says, you can't do it.

00:40:11 ◼   ► You can still sort of do it.

00:40:12 ◼   ► I'm going to save you the, well actually on Twitter, you can do it if you pick up the

00:40:19 ◼   ► icon, then enter the multitasking app switcher.

00:40:23 ◼   ► Oh, that's baloney.

00:40:24 ◼   ► But look, if the apps start moving around as if they're being physically moved, it's

00:40:30 ◼   ► broken.

00:40:31 ◼   ► Right, because that didn't used to happen before.

00:40:34 ◼   ► I'm just giving you a potential workaround.

00:40:35 ◼   ► I know you're trying to help me, but I refuse the help.

00:40:38 ◼   ► But I get your point.

00:40:39 ◼   ► Yes, I get your point. Yes.

00:40:41 ◼   ► Yes.

00:40:41 ◼   ► If you have a contextual icon that says, like a contextual menu that says

00:40:47 ◼   ► rearrange icons, you do not need to have all of the icons immediately rearranging all the time,

00:40:54 ◼   ► right? Like, why can I rearrange icons in two different ways but can't drag the app from the

00:41:00 ◼   ► home screen into multi-futuristic? That's a good point, that's a good point. Like, it's bananas,

00:41:04 ◼   ► it's absolutely bananas. I want to, I need to ask you this, Myke. I don't know if this is

00:41:10 ◼   ► exactly new in 13.2. I'm pretty sure it's new in 13 this year. On iPadOS, you know the command

00:41:19 ◼   ► tab switcher, right? I've recently discovered that if you hit command Q while an app is selected in

00:41:30 ◼   ► the command tab switcher, it'll remove the app from the switcher, but it'll not actually force

00:41:37 ◼   ► quit the app. What is the point of that? What's the point of this? You need to tell me why,

00:41:43 ◼   ► what's the point? I don't understand that. My only possible explanation is that if you're,

00:41:49 ◼   ► if you feel subconscious about the icons that you have in the command tab switcher,

00:41:54 ◼   ► like if you're in front of people you want to quickly hide an icon for some reason.

00:41:57 ◼   ► Right, then they're still multitasking. But they're still in the switcher though.

00:42:02 ◼   ► it doesn't quit the app. So you can just clean up your switch. I don't know. But there you

00:42:10 ◼   ► have it.

00:42:11 ◼   ► That's a remnant of something else, right? Like I see stuff like that and it's not a

00:42:17 ◼   ► feature. That's in there, it's a non-bug that has been created, right? Like it's just this

00:42:22 ◼   ► esoteric thing that's been created because of something else. Why would that be a feature?

00:42:26 ◼   ► Like if you hit command-Q it only removes it from the tab switch.

00:42:31 ◼   ► another feature it's a byproduct of something else.

00:42:35 ◼   ► That byproduct is the perfect phrase for that. It's a byproduct of something else. That nobody

00:42:40 ◼   ► ever intended that. Super weird.

00:42:44 ◼   ► Alright, there's more for 13.2 and 6.1 and all that nonsense. But let me take our second

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00:44:07 ◼   ► So I am aware, but actually you know what? Before, I've got an article open here from

00:44:15 ◼   ► the wonderful Max stories and it's about the HomePod and basically what you were talking

00:44:21 ◼   ► about and there is something called loud siren in here which everybody who listens to the show

00:44:27 ◼   ► now knows that you that you have now turned your entire home pod set up into a horrific siren

00:44:32 ◼   ► i want to talk to you about that but before we do i want to ask you something that i know you don't

00:44:38 ◼   ► want to answer your home screen in these screenshots here there's a lot going on on these

00:44:48 ◼   ► home screens that I'm very intrigued about and I'm sure you're not gonna want

00:44:55 ◼   ► to talk about it right now but there's a lot of very interesting looking icons

00:45:00 ◼   ► that I don't understand. Can I give you my answer? Yes. Here's my answer!

00:45:07 ◼   ► Is that what the siren sounds like? Yes. Is there anyone in your house right now?

00:45:14 ◼   ► now? Just the dogs, just me. Poor dogs. Yeah, they're in the other room. This is the

00:45:21 ◼   ► on-pod in my room. Oh my god. Oh, that is a horrific noise. We're gonna get to that.

00:45:28 ◼   ► And it was 40%. So, my home screen. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot going on. I should write

00:45:33 ◼   ► about it. Basically, the reason why I wanted Sylvia to make the Max Stories shortcuts icons.

00:45:44 ◼   ► which by the way has been recently updated with 50 new glyphs, which you can get at maxlaurius.net.

00:45:48 ◼   ► Yes, there's a free update and the glyphs also have home pods in them because I knew

00:45:54 ◼   ► this update was coming out. I convinced her to make these icons because I wanted the icons

00:46:00 ◼   ► myself. So the fact that running shortcuts on the home screen is much, much better in

00:46:08 ◼   ► 13 convinced me to go to try this hybrid approach of like not an entirely shortcuts only home

00:46:17 ◼   ► screen, but both apps and shortcuts.

00:46:21 ◼   ► I have more apps on my phone that I do on my iPad.

00:46:24 ◼   ► On my iPad I do have more shortcuts on the home screen, but that's because I have the

00:46:30 ◼   ► dock on the iPad.

00:46:31 ◼   ► But yeah, I should explain.

00:46:35 ◼   ► I want to know what they all are.

00:46:37 ◼   ► like releases, recents, mytasks, there's taskplus, musicbot, ideas, what are these things?

00:46:51 ◼   ► Some of these are big projects that I've been working on for the past five months, especially

00:46:59 ◼   ► releases and music and my tasks. Those are like actual web apps. They're powered by shortcuts.

00:47:08 ◼   ► It's ridiculous. I promise I will share them eventually. They were created with the purpose

00:47:14 ◼   ► of sharing them with people. Honestly, in the short term, like before the end of the

00:47:20 ◼   ► year, I want to write about the home screen, my home screen, like all the apps and shortcuts

00:47:26 ◼   ► that I have and I plan on sharing MusicBot, which is the thing that I've been working

00:47:31 ◼   ► on for the past two months.

00:47:34 ◼   ► I've been talking about it on App Store a bit, this sort of comprehensive Apple Music

00:47:40 ◼   ► Assistant that I've been working on.

00:47:43 ◼   ► So far it's about 500 actions and it requires no setup, it's entirely like all the complexity

00:47:52 ◼   ► removed to do a bunch of things for you for Apple Music. But yeah, I realize there's a lot of things.

00:47:58 ◼   ► So Ideas is an easy one. Ideas just launches an Apple Note for my shortcuts ideas. It's a simple

00:48:07 ◼   ► one action shortcut. But yeah, there's a bunch of things to explain. Have you seen Reader in there?

00:48:15 ◼   ► Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:48:17 ◼   ► I've stopped.

00:48:20 ◼   ► I'm almost convinced that I'm going to stop using Safari Reading List.

00:48:23 ◼   ► Oh, man, it's

00:48:26 ◼   ► that there's another three episodes of this stuff.

00:48:29 ◼   ► But we don't have the time today. But yes.

00:48:32 ◼   ► I'm not surprised you've stopped using Safari Reading List.

00:48:35 ◼   ► Look, I've given it a honest shot for like three years.

00:48:38 ◼   ► That reader icon, that's a beta icon or something?

00:48:42 ◼   ► Yeah, it's the beta. It's supposedly coming out very, very soon.

00:48:47 ◼   ► I use Reader every day.

00:48:50 ◼   ► I've gotten back in touch with Silvio, the developer.

00:48:54 ◼   ► We lost touch over the years when he was busy working on Reader 4.

00:48:59 ◼   ► And I've been sending him my feedback for the shortcuts that he's working on.

00:49:05 ◼   ► Really, really good stuff.

00:49:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Shortcuts.

00:49:09 ◼   ► - Yes, yes. - Okay, okay.

00:49:11 ◼   ► Alright, we'll come back to all of that. Let's talk about your HomePod siren, shall we?

00:49:16 ◼   ► You want to hear the siren again?

00:49:17 ◼   ► No, I don't want to hear the siren again. That's the one thing I don't want.

00:49:20 ◼   ► What I want to know is, did you get it all working? Do you have your home alarm system

00:49:26 ◼   ► set up the way that you want now?

00:49:27 ◼   ► I do. And that's because you can now let HomePods participate, well, if you have the software

00:49:35 ◼   ► update of course, you can now let HomePods participate in the Home

00:49:41 ◼   ► Automations and Scenes. So this means that you can play, you have four

00:49:47 ◼   ► actions. If you assign a HomePod or I believe any AirPlay 2

00:49:54 ◼   ► speaker to a Scene or Automation in the Home app on your iPhone or iPad, you

00:50:00 ◼   ► can choose between four actions, they are Play Audio, Resume Audio,

00:50:07 ◼   ► Pause Audio and Adjust Volume. And you can choose, there's a bunch of options

00:50:13 ◼   ► that you can choose, Repeat, Shuffle, Use the current volume or Set a custom

00:50:19 ◼   ► volume. And when you Play Audio, so this is the thing that I was looking forward

00:50:23 ◼   ► to, because I wanted to turn my three HomePods into a siren, into a super loud

00:50:28 ◼   ► siren. I do have a siren like a physical siren that I bought on Amazon and that I wired myself.

00:50:33 ◼   ► But a multi-room HomePod setup will be much louder. Imagine a multi-room HomePod setup

00:50:41 ◼   ► a hundred percent volume blasting a loud siren like the one you just heard. Part of the thing

00:50:47 ◼   ► about that is like if that happens to you you know that's coming from multiple places that is like an

00:50:52 ◼   ► audio assault to you. Mm-hmm yeah so I was able to... I'm gonna... let me talk...

00:51:00 ◼   ► I'm gonna mention this in a few minutes. For now what I've done is I downloaded a

00:51:06 ◼   ► loud siren track from YouTube. I used YouTube DL to download it on my Mac.

00:51:13 ◼   ► I used Fission by Rogamiba, excellent app, wonderful app, to convert it to an MP3

00:51:21 ◼   ► file and give it custom metadata. So I give it a homekit, a home icon artwork.

00:51:27 ◼   ► And I believe the genre following the excellent tip by John Boris is loud.

00:51:35 ◼   ► And I think the artist and the album is... No, the artist is homekit, I think, and the

00:51:40 ◼   ► album is homekit security.

00:51:42 ◼   ► It's the loudest beats.

00:51:43 ◼   ► You know, it's the loudest beats. I uploaded this track to my iCloud Music Library, and then I selected it in

00:51:50 ◼   ► in the Home app so that whenever my home security system is triggered, the HomePods will start

00:51:58 ◼   ► playing this track, Loud Siren, full volume in all three rooms. It's loud man, it's very loud

00:52:07 ◼   ► and it's, you know, you can barely survive if you hear that. I haven't tried at 100%, 50%

00:52:18 ◼   ► It was enough for a few seconds.

00:52:19 ◼   ► Are you happy with the way that you have this set up right now

00:52:23 ◼   ► that you are willing to trust the security of your home to this system?

00:52:27 ◼   ► Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been trusting the security of my home

00:52:30 ◼   ► to this system without the HomePod sirens for the past few months, actually.

00:52:35 ◼   ► It works really well.

00:52:37 ◼   ► I must say, like the door and window sensors are working great.

00:52:41 ◼   ► Well, what I want to do is modify the loud siren track

00:52:47 ◼   ► so that it contains a vocal message that like fakes a phone call to the police as well.

00:52:55 ◼   ► Oh yeah, I forgot about that idea.

00:52:57 ◼   ► Yeah I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna put together like I'm gonna record myself.

00:53:01 ◼   ► But is it the police here or the Carabinieri? Which one are you gonna...

00:53:04 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna like with the Carabinieri because they're you know...

00:53:07 ◼   ► I see them as tougher.

00:53:09 ◼   ► Yeah scarier, just the word.

00:53:12 ◼   ► Scarier.

00:53:13 ◼   ► That's because many, many, many years ago they used to have a carabiner, which is the gun, hence the carabinieri.

00:53:21 ◼   ► Because it sounds to me like a secret police.

00:53:23 ◼   ► Well, they're not a secret police.

00:53:25 ◼   ► I know, they're everywhere, you see them, but it sounds like the secret police.

00:53:29 ◼   ► Right, that's kind of how I hear it.

00:53:31 ◼   ► Yeah, but I'm pretty happy so far.

00:53:34 ◼   ► We've added, what's it called, a UPS module, the thing for backup power.

00:53:41 ◼   ► The uninterruptible power supply thing.

00:53:43 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:53:45 ◼   ► Because, you know, of course, if anybody's trying to break in,

00:53:50 ◼   ► maybe they could try cutting the power from outside.

00:53:54 ◼   ► How will you deal with the explosives expert, Federico?

00:53:58 ◼   ► Well, that I haven't accounted for, but at least my internet connection is going to stay up.

00:54:04 ◼   ► My Apple TV is going to stay up.

00:54:05 ◼   ► What if they cut a hole in the ceiling and come down that way?

00:54:09 ◼   ► At that point I'm screwed.

00:54:11 ◼   ► Yeah, I guess so, right?

00:54:13 ◼   ► But at least if they tried the traditional way, the Internet is going to stay up.

00:54:17 ◼   ► So I'm going to get notifications and the Apple TV is going to stay up.

00:54:20 ◼   ► So the HomeKit hub works and the at least one home pod and the Amazon

00:54:25 ◼   ► and the Amazon siren, the physical siren will continue working.

00:54:29 ◼   ► The other two home pods, if they cut the power, will not work.

00:54:34 ◼   ► But honestly, I really hope that they don't.

00:54:35 ◼   ► Like, I don't want anybody to try this.

00:54:38 ◼   ► I just know that it's working and that's enough for me.

00:54:41 ◼   ► You know, you cannot leave being obsessed with, oh, are they going to break in today?

00:54:45 ◼   ► Is this isn't going to work? No, I just set it up for my safety, for my peace of mind.

00:54:49 ◼   ► And, you know, the fact that it's entirely powered by HomeKit makes me happy

00:54:54 ◼   ► because I don't need to trust anybody, anybody else's servers anymore

00:54:58 ◼   ► or pay for other subscriptions and services and that kind of stuff.

00:55:03 ◼   ► And I cannot wait for HomeKit secure video

00:55:06 ◼   ► to become available for my Logi Circle 2 cameras.

00:55:09 ◼   ► Are they putting that on there?

00:55:11 ◼   ► Yes, the Circle 2 will get it.

00:55:13 ◼   ► Okay, that might be what I move to, because I want to

00:55:17 ◼   ► have access to HomeKit Secure Video.

00:55:19 ◼   ► I just want that feature, and

00:55:23 ◼   ► I'm not convinced that Canary's going to get it,

00:55:26 ◼   ► but I only want to move when I can recreate what I have,

00:55:30 ◼   ► which is also having a siren

00:55:33 ◼   ► and the ability to talk through into the home.

00:55:36 ◼   ► Like I want to be able to have these features

00:55:39 ◼   ► and I don't mind if I have to have a couple of different products to make that work

00:55:43 ◼   ► as long as it all works with HomeKit.

00:55:45 ◼   ► I'm happy with that.

00:55:47 ◼   ► Have you tried the HomePod Ambience sounds?

00:55:52 ◼   ► No, because I didn't know how to activate them.

00:55:56 ◼   ► Neither did I. I found a great Artcore 9-5 Mac which actually tells you how to do it.

00:56:03 ◼   ► So you just say like you know, ahoy telephone, play stream sounds or ocean noises or you say

00:56:14 ◼   ► white noise that kind of thing and then it will do it and they sound pretty good.

00:56:19 ◼   ► It's a little aggressive for me I think like the sounds because they sound pretty loopy right like

00:56:29 ◼   ► they're on a loop, like in a pretty short loop and that kind of, I don't really like that so much,

00:56:33 ◼   ► you can do white noise and stuff which I know is useful for some people because it's kind of cool

00:56:37 ◼   ► it's built into the HomePod now. Yeah, people buy like white noise machines, you know,

00:56:44 ◼   ► dedicated for this and now it's part of the HomePod which is pretty cool. 13.2 and 10.15.1

00:56:52 ◼   ► and all that stuff, even the HomePod, it gave you the option to do the Siri privacy thing,

00:56:57 ◼   ► right where you can send the audio clips. What did you choose?

00:57:01 ◼   ► Oh I'm sharing everything man. I'm not.

00:57:04 ◼   ► Really? Oh okay. I'm really I'm doing it out of anger because I was just really

00:57:10 ◼   ► annoyed at the way Apple dealt with that whole thing.

00:57:13 ◼   ► So I'm kind of doing it out of spite and part of my spite comes from the

00:57:18 ◼   ► fact that they're getting the text transcripts anyway which I find

00:57:21 ◼   ► really annoying that like I can't opt out of that.

00:57:24 ◼   ► Like, they made this big thing about an apology, but they still won't let me opt out of text transcripts.

00:57:29 ◼   ► Um, so

00:57:31 ◼   ► I said no, because it's like I don't, I feel like I just don't need my audio sent for somebody to listen to.

00:57:36 ◼   ► I just feel like I don't, if I get the choice

00:57:39 ◼   ► I'm gonna say no to that. Like,

00:57:41 ◼   ► we're good. Well, I've been getting so many

00:57:45 ◼   ► accidental Siri activations. Right, and that's part of the reason I don't want it sent, because it's happening all the time. Yeah,

00:57:53 ◼   ► But I've been getting so many of them before 13.2 on my HomePod.

00:57:57 ◼   ► So I don't know if the situation is getting better.

00:57:59 ◼   ► It's too soon to tell.

00:58:00 ◼   ► But again, it's so many that I realized, you know, how many

00:58:03 ◼   ► people like me are out there in this situation of having three HomePods

00:58:08 ◼   ► that have been imported from the US and they're now being used in Italy

00:58:12 ◼   ► in an environment where honestly, like most of the time,

00:58:17 ◼   ► you can hear me talking in a weird mix of English and Italian,

00:58:20 ◼   ► which, by the way, is getting super, super bad.

00:58:23 ◼   ► and funny at the same time.

00:58:25 ◼   ► Like I cannot speak in Italian,

00:58:26 ◼   ► like fluent Italian anymore, basically.

00:58:29 ◼   ► So how, what's the, you know,

00:58:31 ◼   ► what are the chances that some,

00:58:33 ◼   ► many other people like me are up there

00:58:34 ◼   ► with the same setup?

00:58:35 ◼   ► So I figured, you know,

00:58:36 ◼   ► anything that I can do to sort of improve this for myself,

00:58:39 ◼   ► I'm gonna share the data with Apple

00:58:41 ◼   ► so they can listen and understand whatever is going on.

00:58:45 ◼   ► Because honestly, like the TV is triggering Siri

00:58:47 ◼   ► all the time now, even though like,

00:58:50 ◼   ► - I get it all the time.

00:58:51 ◼   ► Like, even for words that are not remotely similar, that name.

00:59:00 ◼   ► Something else that has been going on here.

00:59:03 ◼   ► WatchOS 6.1 is out, came out yesterday.

00:59:07 ◼   ► Got a bunch of improvements.

00:59:09 ◼   ► Battery life should be better for people.

00:59:10 ◼   ► I've seen folks who have a Series 5 watch saying that 6.1

00:59:15 ◼   ► improved their situation, so that's nice.

00:59:17 ◼   ► Workout triggers, we mentioned them before,

00:59:21 ◼   ► should now be working correctly between the iPhone and the iPad.

00:59:24 ◼   ► I say "should" because they don't for me.

00:59:28 ◼   ► Also, what doesn't work for me is you can now run shortcuts on the Apple Watch

00:59:34 ◼   ► thanks to 13.2 and 6.1.

00:59:37 ◼   ► And it's supposedly the full-on shortcut support.

00:59:44 ◼   ► You can see even menus and lists on the watch.

00:59:49 ◼   ► and you can choose parameters and stuff like that.

00:59:52 ◼   ► Even though there's no shortcuts app on the watch,

00:59:54 ◼   ► you can now run shortcuts on the watch via Siri.

00:59:57 ◼   ► And you can, you know, interactivity, conversational mode,

01:00:00 ◼   ► all of that stuff is supported.

01:00:02 ◼   ► It's not working for me at all.

01:00:04 ◼   ► When I try to run a shortcut, it says,

01:00:06 ◼   ► "I do not recognize that command."

01:00:08 ◼   ► And I, of course, opened up a feedback report with Apple last week.

01:00:14 ◼   ► They followed up with me today asking for an additional SysDiagnos on the watch,

01:00:20 ◼   ► which by the way, if you don't know, you can capture a SysDiagnos on the Apple Watch

01:00:26 ◼   ► by pressing the side button and the digital crown at the same time for two seconds.

01:00:31 ◼   ► And then you got to wait 15 minutes for the SysDiagnos to be collected and saved on your iPhone

01:00:36 ◼   ► in the watch app.

01:00:38 ◼   ► Anyway, I needed to install an additional Siri login profile on my iPhone to gather additional data for my shortcuts usage.

01:00:49 ◼   ► My understanding is that something horrible happened to my shortcuts library so that it's not syncing to the watch correctly

01:00:56 ◼   ► and I'm not getting the workout triggers to work and I'm not getting the shortcuts on the watch to work.

01:01:02 ◼   ► It's probably about 64.

01:01:04 ◼   ► I knew that I was going to make that joke and I accept it.

01:01:07 ◼   ► I brought it on myself.

01:01:08 ◼   ► But yeah, hopefully Apple can look into the data that I send,

01:01:12 ◼   ► the additional data that I sent and they can figure out whatever is going on.

01:01:15 ◼   ► So the shortcuts can only be run by Siri, right?

01:01:19 ◼   ► Yes, of course. There's no... Or in theory,

01:01:23 ◼   ► with the Siri watch face.

01:01:26 ◼   ► In theory.

01:01:29 ◼   ► I haven't tested it because it doesn't work.

01:01:33 ◼   ► But yeah, I saw somebody on Twitter today, I'm gonna try and find a tweet if I can,

01:01:40 ◼   ► with a video of how shortcuts on the watch work. It's pretty impressive.

01:01:44 ◼   ► You do get the full interaction.

01:01:47 ◼   ► You can choose from lists, you can dictate text, and you can do anything.

01:01:51 ◼   ► So I really hope that Apple can figure out what's going on for me because I would love to use this.

01:01:56 ◼   ► Do we have anything else on software updates?

01:02:03 ◼   ► I mean, Carolina had an update with a new emoji.

01:02:06 ◼   ► Great.

01:02:07 ◼   ► I don't know, the Apple TV was updated too.

01:02:11 ◼   ► That's about it, I think.

01:02:15 ◼   ► Yeah, I think we should stop messing around and not start talking about what people actually care about today, which is AirPods Pro.

01:02:21 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

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01:04:09 ◼   ► AirPods Pro!

01:04:12 ◼   ► -Mm-hmm. We're here. -We both got them today.

01:04:14 ◼   ► I had them for a couple of hours.

01:04:16 ◼   ► I've spent a little bit of time playing around with them.

01:04:19 ◼   ► They were announced on Monday.

01:04:22 ◼   ► We were both able to order them and they've arrived.

01:04:25 ◼   ► In case you have missed it.

01:04:27 ◼   ► Effectively, the big things here are active noise cancellation.

01:04:31 ◼   ► So there is noise cancellation.

01:04:34 ◼   ► They are water resistant.

01:04:35 ◼   ► They are splash proof is probably a better thing to say.

01:04:38 ◼   ► What else do we have?

01:04:41 ◼   ► And then they're smaller.

01:04:43 ◼   ► They have a different case.

01:04:46 ◼   ► Really, the noise cancellation is what warrants this product existing because there's a few

01:04:54 ◼   ► different things going on.

01:04:55 ◼   ► There's a couple of modes, right?

01:04:57 ◼   ► You have regular mode, which is just nothing's happening.

01:05:02 ◼   ► And the AirPods are going in your ears now, so just little silicone tips.

01:05:07 ◼   ► So that provides some level of isolation, right?

01:05:10 ◼   ► Because you've got a fit and you've got something stuck in your ear, so that isolates some noise.

01:05:16 ◼   ► Then you have the noise cancellation mode where it's using the microphones on the outside

01:05:21 ◼   ► and also the microphones on the inside to see how much noise is outside, how much noise

01:05:26 ◼   ► is getting in and then it's trying to map the music.

01:05:31 ◼   ► It's really weird stuff, I don't understand completely how this stuff works but it's using

01:05:35 ◼   ► all of that sound to adapt the noise that you're hearing and then to make sure it's

01:05:39 ◼   ► basically trying to level that out.

01:05:42 ◼   ► you've got transparency mode where it's actively using those microphones to

01:05:46 ◼   ► bring in some outside noise to you more than you would be getting from not

01:05:50 ◼   ► having it on even if you were playing no music right like so the idea would be if

01:05:54 ◼   ► you were on a bike right and you're riding on a bike you still want to be

01:05:58 ◼   ► able to hear street noise maybe if you're on a plane you want to be able to

01:06:02 ◼   ► hear something if there's announcements the way that Apple set it up is you can

01:06:06 ◼   ► basically choose any three of those modes so nothing, transparency mode or

01:06:12 ◼   ► noise cancellation and you can do that on the iPhone you can change that you

01:06:16 ◼   ► can like long press on the the volume slider and you can also set it up that

01:06:21 ◼   ► there's the the new force sensor which we'll talk about in a little bit more

01:06:25 ◼   ► detail in a minute you can have it so you can long press to toggle between the

01:06:30 ◼   ► two modes of either active noise cancellation or transparency mode

01:06:35 ◼   ► whatever one you're using a couple of second squeeze on the stem of the AirPod

01:06:40 ◼   ► will change between one or the other. So that's kind of like the rundown of like

01:06:44 ◼   ► that feature right I think I pretty much covered that I think right but we both

01:06:51 ◼   ► had them I think we have both had issues with these types of earphones in the

01:06:58 ◼   ► past so earphones that go in the ear I have also previously not been a big fan

01:07:03 ◼   ► of noise cancellation so in theory this product shouldn't be that great for me but I really

01:07:08 ◼   ► like it.

01:07:09 ◼   ► I'm very happy with it so far.

01:07:10 ◼   ► I find the fit of the silicon, I go down to the small ones, the medium wouldn't fit in

01:07:17 ◼   ► my ears.

01:07:19 ◼   ► Taking those off by the way is an experience.

01:07:24 ◼   ► The silicon tip things.

01:07:27 ◼   ► You have to really pull it and it feels like you're going to break it.

01:07:30 ◼   ► Yeah, it's because they are like other earbuds with tips, silicon tips that I tried before.

01:07:36 ◼   ► You don't just like insert the tip in the speaker, like what's it called?

01:07:43 ◼   ► Like the earbud itself.

01:07:47 ◼   ► There's like a little plastic base, but like at the bottom of the silicon tip that needs

01:07:52 ◼   ► to attach to the AirPod.

01:07:55 ◼   ► It's not magnetic, but it feels like it.

01:07:57 ◼   ► I'm gonna pull mine off now so people can hear what it sounds like, right?

01:08:01 ◼   ► Like this is the sound it makes when you try and remove the tip.

01:08:04 ◼   ► [click]

01:08:05 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:08:06 ◼   ► It is a significant, it is quite scary when you're trying to take them off for the first time.

01:08:10 ◼   ► It's not just like showing the silicon tip into the AirPod.

01:08:15 ◼   ► You need to physically detach and reattach this little component to the AirPod.

01:08:22 ◼   ► Which, now that I know, like, what's the correct amount of...

01:08:28 ◼   ► - Pressure, yeah. - ...strength to apply,

01:08:29 ◼   ► and pressure to apply, like, I totally get it.

01:08:32 ◼   ► Like, it's super easy, but the first time I was like,

01:08:34 ◼   ► "Oh, man, I'm gonna..."

01:08:35 ◼   ► Like, I swear, like, the first time that I pulled it off,

01:08:38 ◼   ► I thought I broke it.

01:08:39 ◼   ► I figured I was gonna rip the silicone.

01:08:41 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Right? Like...

01:08:43 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah, it was.

01:08:44 ◼   ► But what I notice is that, so, historically, you know me,

01:08:48 ◼   ► I have a side hobby of trying lots of different headphones and earbuds and

01:08:55 ◼   ► just something that I like to do and then eventually I resell them to my friends and other people.

01:09:00 ◼   ► So I keep the hobby going like that. And historically in-ear earbuds have always

01:09:09 ◼   ► been problematic for me in that after 15-20 minutes start getting a very light headache,

01:09:17 ◼   ► it gets much much worse within the hour and I feel like pressure in my ears and it moves to my forehead.

01:09:24 ◼   ► I really cannot do it.

01:09:27 ◼   ► And if that doesn't happen, it's because I cannot find a good size of

01:09:34 ◼   ► silicone tips that fit my ears.

01:09:36 ◼   ► So either I don't find silicone tips that work for me or if I do, I get a headache.

01:09:43 ◼   ► I haven't had any problems with with noise cancellation before myself, but I know what you mean that

01:09:50 ◼   ► It can make you feel a little

01:09:53 ◼   ► strange like

01:09:56 ◼   ► You know sort of like confused or like a headache it it can be tricky for a lot of people

01:10:03 ◼   ► I totally understand what you mean

01:10:05 ◼   ► These are pods Pro. I

01:10:07 ◼   ► I believe that what Apple is saying about the new design with the vents that relieve pressure in the inner ear

01:10:15 ◼   ► I think it's working because I've been listening with these AirPods for over two hours today

01:10:21 ◼   ► Didn't get a headache. Yep. Didn't get any, you know, sort of

01:10:26 ◼   ► Weird sensation a weird feeling in my ears. Everything's been fine. I can tell that it's a tighter seal

01:10:34 ◼   ► compared to traditional AirPods.

01:10:36 ◼   ► If I turn off, if I turn noise cancellation off,

01:10:39 ◼   ► I still can't hear much.

01:10:41 ◼   ► Yeah. Yeah.

01:10:44 ◼   ► And also, I think the lightness of the AirPod and not having a cable

01:10:48 ◼   ► is something that is helping it stay in my ears.

01:10:51 ◼   ► Yes, yes.

01:10:53 ◼   ► But the way that I see it now is like traditional AirPods

01:10:56 ◼   ► have a much, much looser seal.

01:10:59 ◼   ► Like they they I've never lost them.

01:11:02 ◼   ► I never, you know, accidentally dropped them from my ears.

01:11:04 ◼   ► I'm lucky like that that my the shape of my ear is works well with the classic AirPods design

01:11:11 ◼   ► But these ones they are much much tighter because of the silicon tips and you know the design of the of the of the new AirPods

01:11:19 ◼   ► the medium size tip

01:11:21 ◼   ► Fit right away for me and the what's it called?

01:11:25 ◼   ► Ear tip fit test. Yeah, that's a mouthful in settings that confirmed the right away

01:11:32 ◼   ► that medium was a good seal for both AirPods.

01:11:36 ◼   ► And the result is that noise cancellation works.

01:11:41 ◼   ► I mean, it doesn't come, like, it's not magic, right?

01:11:44 ◼   ► If you have somebody talking in front of you,

01:11:46 ◼   ► it's not going to magically block them out,

01:11:48 ◼   ► but it makes them way, way quieter.

01:11:51 ◼   ► And, of course, background noise,

01:11:53 ◼   ► that does a really good job at eliminating.

01:11:58 ◼   ► But the result for me, like, the sound is what matters.

01:12:02 ◼   ► and the sound is much, much better than normal AirPods.

01:12:04 ◼   ► Like, you got more bass in there, it's warmer, it's a richer sound overall

01:12:10 ◼   ► that I really can't believe that Apple was able to pack into these things

01:12:13 ◼   ► that are so small, they're so much smaller and shorter than normal AirPods,

01:12:17 ◼   ► and they sound, to me, not twice as loud, but twice as richer, which is different.

01:12:22 ◼   ► And it's really quite remarkable.

01:12:25 ◼   ► Yeah, like, I think as well one of the things that's helping me with the noise cancellation

01:12:30 ◼   ► is it's not too strong anyway.

01:12:32 ◼   ► Right?

01:12:33 ◼   ► Like, I think because it's, I think most of the problem I've had with noise cancellation

01:12:37 ◼   ► is like over the ear headphones.

01:12:39 ◼   ► And it's just doing too much, right?

01:12:43 ◼   ► And that's maybe just too aggressive, where this is way less aggressive.

01:12:49 ◼   ► And I do think that there is a possibility, like I don't know that maybe these vents are

01:12:52 ◼   ► helping out with it.

01:12:54 ◼   ► But like, you know, like I even felt like there were times when I was putting them in,

01:12:57 ◼   ► when I've been testing them out today and I wasn't sure if noise cancellation was on or not

01:13:02 ◼   ► which I actually think is a good thing in some instances because that means it's not making me

01:13:09 ◼   ► feel weird basically like I was just in a quiet room right so like there wasn't noise to cancel

01:13:14 ◼   ► but I was putting them in and I wasn't sure I've noticed that um they when you take the the airpods

01:13:21 ◼   ► out of your ears and put them back in again they remember your previous setting for whether you had

01:13:26 ◼   ► noise cancellation on or off or you have transparency mode on so it just remembers that

01:13:31 ◼   ► so it doesn't seem like there's like a default way that you set it so you just have to remember that

01:13:35 ◼   ► right because i think that there would be quite a lot of times i would want to be able to choose

01:13:41 ◼   ► between all three like there will be times when i would want it off like all off you know right um

01:13:46 ◼   ► if i'm just commuting or whatever where i feel like i don't need noise cancellation but i also

01:13:51 ◼   ► don't need to hear everything like there's like a happy medium and i like that they're

01:13:55 ◼   ► there are the three modes so I can choose.

01:13:57 ◼   ► I'm not one of these people,

01:14:01 ◼   ► and I hear this, I hear people from you,

01:14:03 ◼   ► from some friends, from YouTubers,

01:14:05 ◼   ► people that they put on their headphones

01:14:07 ◼   ► and they're like, "Hmm, the mids are really good in this,

01:14:10 ◼   ► "and the highs are great."

01:14:11 ◼   ► And it's like, I do not know what anybody's talking about.

01:14:14 ◼   ► - Okay, okay.

01:14:16 ◼   ► - But I've tried to have it explained to me,

01:14:18 ◼   ► I can't recognize it.

01:14:19 ◼   ► I know when something's bassy,

01:14:21 ◼   ► I know when something sounds nice and clear.

01:14:23 ◼   ► I know, but my main thing, which is like, I had this today when I was using the AirPods,

01:14:28 ◼   ► is when I was using them, I was like, oh, I'm hearing things in this song that I know

01:14:33 ◼   ► very well that I typically only hear when I use over-ear headphones.

01:14:38 ◼   ► So you do know what it's like, you're just not sure about the right terminology.

01:14:42 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't know what the terms mean, right?

01:14:45 ◼   ► But I can hear certain instruments played more loudly or little details in a song that

01:14:51 ◼   ► I don't usually hear.

01:14:52 ◼   ► I can hear differences but I can't categorize them.

01:14:57 ◼   ► Yeah, most of them are the "mades" as they say.

01:15:00 ◼   ► Like the detail in the instrument.

01:15:02 ◼   ► Like today I was listening to the latest album by The Main, which by the way is an excellent

01:15:07 ◼   ► album, and with the AirPods Pro I can pick up details in the background guitars that

01:15:15 ◼   ► just become a little mushy, like a little background noise with the AirPods.

01:15:20 ◼   ► here you can tell the guitar apart from the background.

01:15:23 ◼   ► So yeah, I'm pleased that you mentioned that because it's also something that I noticed today.

01:15:29 ◼   ► What do you think about the case?

01:15:31 ◼   ► Alright, so...

01:15:33 ◼   ► It's bigger and heavier.

01:15:35 ◼   ► That's no problem for me.

01:15:37 ◼   ► Yes, it is, but like whatever, it's not like it's suddenly like a break.

01:15:42 ◼   ► The size difference for me is not an issue.

01:15:44 ◼   ► I know some people don't like it. The weight is not an issue either.

01:15:48 ◼   ► but it is worth noting.

01:15:50 ◼   ► My issue is that at first,

01:15:54 ◼   ► I was a bit clumsy in trying to understand how to take the AirPods out of the case.

01:16:01 ◼   ► You have to learn again.

01:16:03 ◼   ► You have to learn again. It's not the same way as with the old AirPods,

01:16:08 ◼   ► because if you try to pull them from the silicon tips,

01:16:13 ◼   ► from the front,

01:16:15 ◼   ► like if you try to pull them out from the front, it's not working.

01:16:17 ◼   ► You gotta pull them out from the back.

01:16:19 ◼   ► So it's a different gesture, it's a new gesture, and at first I felt kind of stupid, like,

01:16:27 ◼   ► have I really forgot how to remove AirPods from a case?

01:16:31 ◼   ► But no, the different shape and the fact that you have these silicone tips now,

01:16:36 ◼   ► the case requires you to adjust your gesture for taking them out.

01:16:43 ◼   ► But it's, you know, now it's totally fine. I did it a bunch of times and now I get it.

01:16:47 ◼   ► Now I'm reaching for the back of the AirPod and it comes out right away.

01:16:51 ◼   ► I cannot believe how much smaller they are.

01:16:54 ◼   ► Right? I mean, and that was one of the things that I was also concerned about.

01:16:58 ◼   ► Like, the shorter stem, is it really going to be comfortable to reach and press?

01:17:04 ◼   ► Because you have less surface area to, you know, to find as a clickable button.

01:17:10 ◼   ► But one, yes, I find it to be relatively easy to do.

01:17:15 ◼   ► Like I can reach for my ear and press and it's fine.

01:17:18 ◼   ► And I cannot believe how smaller they are.

01:17:21 ◼   ► And they're so much smaller, yet they sound better.

01:17:24 ◼   ► And they have more features.

01:17:26 ◼   ► And they have the same battery life.

01:17:28 ◼   ► How is this possible?

01:17:29 ◼   ► Miniaturization, man.

01:17:30 ◼   ► It's a wild thing.

01:17:33 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:17:33 ◼   ► What do you think of the Force Sensor?

01:17:35 ◼   ► So this is the sensor that now controls play and pause.

01:17:39 ◼   ► you basically squeeze it once to play, you can double squeeze it to skip forward, go

01:17:44 ◼   ► back. If you ever use the old inline controls on the old wired headphones, it's that basically.

01:17:50 ◼   ► But if you press and hold it for a few seconds, or like a second or whatever, it will do the

01:17:55 ◼   ► active noise cancellation toggling, or it can activate Siri if you choose for it to

01:18:00 ◼   ► do that. That's the only option you have for changing the force sensor. It can either do

01:18:05 ◼   ► the noise cancelling changes or it can do Siri.

01:18:08 ◼   ► You can't customise it for anything else.

01:18:10 ◼   ► What do you think of the sensor?

01:18:13 ◼   ► It seems to be working well so far for me.

01:18:16 ◼   ► I get it.

01:18:18 ◼   ► Like, I've tested it a few times.

01:18:21 ◼   ► I can get used to it.

01:18:23 ◼   ► I'm happy that you can customise the gesture

01:18:25 ◼   ► and have Siri activate without the voice invocation.

01:18:31 ◼   ► My only feedback so far would be,

01:18:33 ◼   ► I wish the click sound was louder.

01:18:37 ◼   ► Yeah, because it makes a little clicky sound, which is fun.

01:18:39 ◼   ► It makes it does it.

01:18:41 ◼   ► Too quiet, though.

01:18:42 ◼   ► Yeah, it should be a little, little.

01:18:44 ◼   ► You know what I like, though?

01:18:45 ◼   ► When you do the press and hold to change between noise cancellation

01:18:51 ◼   ► and transparency, it plays a tone, but the tone is different.

01:18:53 ◼   ► The chime. Yeah, yeah, it's different.

01:18:55 ◼   ► Yeah, it's different for each one.

01:18:57 ◼   ► So like you will eventually learn just by the chime where you are.

01:19:00 ◼   ► I think that that is very, very good design.

01:19:03 ◼   ► Yeah, these AirPods, they sort of, I think they are the final nail in the coffin of those

01:19:10 ◼   ► who hope that Apple will eventually enable slide gestures to control the volume.

01:19:17 ◼   ► Because, I mean, it was, you could imagine it before with the longer stem, but now, you know,

01:19:24 ◼   ► swiping across the AirPod that it's so shorter, I don't think it's ever going to happen.

01:19:28 ◼   ► I'm just really happy that they found a more refined control method, because this is more

01:19:33 ◼   ► refined for me than than slamming the side of my head with my head. Yeah, yeah.

01:19:38 ◼   ► I mean we've always had this argument here "tapping was fine for me" I get what

01:19:44 ◼   ► you mean. It's still too unrefined. Even if it was fine. This is a more refined gesture.

01:19:53 ◼   ► It's elegant, it's a little less aggressive, like I'm not tapping I'm just

01:19:57 ◼   ► clicking, you know? Yep. You feel more like a gentleman when you do it. Yeah.

01:20:01 ◼   ► So I like that a lot. I think it's good.

01:20:04 ◼   ► So they have removed the tapping dish. There's no accelerometer in this, it seems.

01:20:08 ◼   ► They're gone. They're gone.

01:20:10 ◼   ► Now I think the accelerometer is in there, but there's no tapping.

01:20:13 ◼   ► There's no tapping that you can do.

01:20:15 ◼   ► The accelerometer doesn't provide those actions anymore.

01:20:17 ◼   ► No. No. No.

01:20:18 ◼   ► So I mean, overall, I'm super happy so far.

01:20:23 ◼   ► I still gotta test them on a plane, of course.

01:20:26 ◼   ► Can't wait to do that. That's a big test.

01:20:28 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna do it. You know, I have AppleCare, so we'll see.

01:20:32 ◼   ► Oh, we actually mentioned that. AppleCare.

01:20:35 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

01:20:35 ◼   ► It's probably worth getting for this product.

01:20:37 ◼   ► To replace them costs $178 or $29 of AppleCare, and AppleCare is just $29 for this product.

01:20:46 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah. And I also want to mention, slightly related to this,

01:20:50 ◼   ► the excellent utility by friend of the show, Guy Rambo, Airbody for Mac.

01:20:56 ◼   ► I believe has already been updated for the new AirPods Pro.

01:21:01 ◼   ► He sent me a build a few hours ago,

01:21:03 ◼   ► and AirBody is an app that lets you see

01:21:08 ◼   ► the same pairing UI that you see on the iPhone

01:21:12 ◼   ► or the Apple Watch when you first,

01:21:14 ◼   ► you know, when you open the case near a device,

01:21:19 ◼   ► you see, you know, the little spinning graphic.

01:21:22 ◼   ► AirBody lets you see the same thing when you open a case,

01:21:25 ◼   ► an AirPods case next to your Mac and it lets you connect to the AirPods with one click.

01:21:30 ◼   ► And I believe a new version of AirBuddy with AirPods Pro support is already out and it works really well for me.

01:21:37 ◼   ► So there's that. I'm happy so far.

01:21:41 ◼   ► Like, they sound great.

01:21:43 ◼   ► Transparency mode and noise control is very welcome.

01:21:48 ◼   ► I love the shortcuts integration.

01:21:50 ◼   ► I need to test a workout, a real sweaty workout with these things.

01:21:55 ◼   ► see what it's like, but otherwise, I'm happy.

01:22:00 ◼   ► I'm curious to see, here's my something

01:22:05 ◼   ► to check up on in the future.

01:22:06 ◼   ► I believe there's gonna be a market

01:22:09 ◼   ► for third party tip replacements

01:22:12 ◼   ► with even more options for sizes or colors or, you know,

01:22:17 ◼   ► because they are completely detachable,

01:22:19 ◼   ► there's nothing proprietary it seems.

01:22:21 ◼   ► I mean, as long as you copy the design

01:22:23 ◼   ► of the plastic attachment, you can do it.

01:22:26 ◼   ► So I think we're gonna see third-party replacements

01:22:30 ◼   ► for this.

01:22:31 ◼   ► You can buy them supposedly for $4 at the Apple store

01:22:34 ◼   ► if you wanna buy more replacement tips from Apple,

01:22:37 ◼   ► the original ones.

01:22:38 ◼   ► - Which is good that the price is so silly, right?

01:22:41 ◼   ► It should be that kind of price, like a really small price.

01:22:44 ◼   ► It's like the same as replacing the tip of the Apple pencil.

01:22:48 ◼   ► It's like cheap, very cheap.

01:22:49 ◼   ► - Yeah, they should hand them out for free,

01:22:51 ◼   ► throwing like confetti when you walk into an Apple store.

01:22:54 ◼   ► Just throwing AirPods Pro tips at you.

01:22:57 ◼   ► - Now we had some audio predictions that we made

01:23:03 ◼   ► for the year and I wanted to review them today,

01:23:06 ◼   ► but now I'm thinking that maybe we should wait

01:23:09 ◼   ► until next week and review them with Steven.

01:23:11 ◼   ► Because we may have some debate as we always do.

01:23:14 ◼   ► - There's gonna be a debate.

01:23:16 ◼   ► - All right, so next week we're gonna review those.

01:23:19 ◼   ► I think it's all, I think I've worked it out.

01:23:21 ◼   ► I've already scored them in our document,

01:23:23 ◼   ► but we will argue over that scoring, I'm sure.

01:23:26 ◼   ► So next week we'll do that.

01:23:27 ◼   ► But yeah, the AirPods Pro, I'm really happy.

01:23:29 ◼   ► I think this is something that all of us

01:23:31 ◼   ► will be providing follow-up over the next couple of weeks

01:23:34 ◼   ► as we use them in different circumstances and situations,

01:23:38 ◼   ► different traveling and moving around

01:23:41 ◼   ► and all that kind of stuff.

01:23:42 ◼   ► This is a product that will be worth coming back to.

01:23:45 ◼   ► But I do want to say, this is a great product.

01:23:47 ◼   ► The team that is responsible for making AirPods

01:23:50 ◼   ► is one of Apple's best teams.

01:23:52 ◼   ► - Yes, yes.

01:23:53 ◼   ► This is, I tweeted about this today.

01:23:56 ◼   ► The AirPods and the Apple Watch for me

01:23:58 ◼   ► are the Apple at its best, really.

01:24:01 ◼   ► I know that it's an overused phrase,

01:24:02 ◼   ► but when it's true, it is true.

01:24:04 ◼   ► This is the best that the company makes,

01:24:05 ◼   ► like miniaturization, making something portable

01:24:08 ◼   ► and elegant and powerful, but intuitive.

01:24:12 ◼   ► Like it's the perfect balance.

01:24:13 ◼   ► AirPods and Apple Watch,

01:24:15 ◼   ► and even more so AirPods in this case,

01:24:18 ◼   ► they strike that balance of something so incredibly complex,

01:24:22 ◼   ► reduced to the essence of its functionality.

01:24:27 ◼   ► That it really is, when you think about it,

01:24:30 ◼   ► like all the different components

01:24:32 ◼   ► and the H1 chip that's inside these things,

01:24:35 ◼   ► and the way that it works and what it does,

01:24:38 ◼   ► and the fact that it's completely wireless.

01:24:40 ◼   ► Like we take it for granted,

01:24:41 ◼   ► but it goes back to what I said a few minutes ago

01:24:44 ◼   ► here on the show.

01:24:45 ◼   ► Like, why do you know the people

01:24:46 ◼   ► that are experts about this stuff?

01:24:47 ◼   ► and like, how is this possible that you have these two wireless things that monitor the

01:24:53 ◼   ► sound around you and they block out the sound by beaming like a noise into you?

01:24:58 ◼   ► Like that's wild.

01:25:00 ◼   ► So yeah, this is a pretty awesome product and the people who worked on it should be

01:25:05 ◼   ► happy because it's very nice.

01:25:07 ◼   ► All right, that does it for this week's episode.

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01:25:13 ◼   ► You can find show notes at relay.fm/connecty/267.

01:25:17 ◼   ► Go to maxstories.net for Federico's work.

01:25:20 ◼   ► He's @vittici on Twitter and Instagram.

01:25:23 ◼   ► Steven is @ismh on Twitter.

01:25:25 ◼   ► I don't know what he is on Instagram.

01:25:26 ◼   ► It's @Stevenmhacker, I think.

01:25:28 ◼   ► It always changes.

01:25:29 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:25:30 ◼   ► But Steven will be back next week.

01:25:31 ◼   ► Don't forget to tweet @Steven.

01:25:33 ◼   ► Your two favorite emoji in support of his health.

01:25:36 ◼   ► New emoji.

01:25:37 ◼   ► This is sick today.

01:25:38 ◼   ► It's a new emoji.

01:25:39 ◼   ► Two favorite new emoji from 13.2.

01:25:41 ◼   ► I'm sure he'll enjoy seeing those.

01:25:44 ◼   ► We'll be back next time.

01:25:46 ◼   ► Until then, say goodbye, Federico.

01:25:49 ◼   ► - Adios.

01:25:50 ◼   ► - Bye.

01:25:52 ◼   ► (laughing)