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190: The Girl Who Never Came Over

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► oh dear miss the beginning of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► it was really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► you missed it yeah was it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► funniest thing ever and you missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► because your skype isn't updated I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► told from half of the internet I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► measured it is exactly half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► wow that there is a reduce motion option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► and beta 2 don't use their reduce option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► invaded hammered already in motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► option beta 2 i'm told it works i'm told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► it works the way john wants it to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► so if you follow along i have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► bit of cash i will it didn't you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► like one or five dollars one dollar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► here that this is my one dollar and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► listeners i will take this box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► envelopes and i will extract that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► not nearly as loud as I hoped it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/49">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► I will extract one envelope and i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► place the staller instead envelope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► and I will address it to mr. John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► siracusa pain and my hindquarters one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► two three main street somewhere outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► boston massachusetts and i will send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► along that work because John you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► correct in our gentlemen's bet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► where we bet one American dollar you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► have proved victorious and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► everything i am told i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► witnessed this myself so I'm going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► faith but I i am told that your reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► motion plus super ridiculous motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► messages is a thing so congratulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► sir i was gonna say you could wait until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► it ships because who knows they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► put before the update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► yeah but yeah i'm going to say most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► likely like if they've got this far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► even if they don't ship in this update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► it will be the next one or the one after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► indeed yeah I'm kind of a try not to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► this this newfound power go to my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► but I was feel like that I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► perhaps exercise the magic the magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► phrasing if i can remember the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► words that I said I should try something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► like talking about how they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► updated the mac pro in a really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► time and say this cannot stand and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► see what happens but John i'll bet you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► dollar they don't update the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► no no I think I don't think it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► bedding I think it was the the indignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► then and I'm I i said this cannot stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/129">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► I seem to recall saying something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► pops like that you know that funny all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/136">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► kidding aside the funny thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► whole argument was I listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► last hour and fifteen episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► irreconcilable differences where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► talked about this and listening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► and Merlin talk about it i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► think I was on your side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► don't know what was so different about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► the way you described it then in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► described it now or we get when on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► show I don't know if I was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► punchline Marco is an instigator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► I think I was instigating more than him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► on this one although you are correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► Marco is in fact an instigator but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► anyway my defense I I was kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► arguing against John position of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► wanting this wanting this feature really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► i was i was more kind of exploring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► poking me like hey you know why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► think that wants to get it does poking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► yeah but it was like an inflammatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► matter i mean like me I guess I've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► almost every one of these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► accessibility additions that were added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► like post ios7 I've you almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► them as just design failures like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► like if the system wasn't so incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► heavy with unnecessary motion animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► this option would need to be there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► like it wasn't before iOS 7 nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► complaining about motion sickness before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► iOS 7 and then that came out and rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► than fix the design you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► have to add these options just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► know the text was too thin and rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► than fix the text they just made full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► text option button didn't like buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► anymore and rather than make buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► like buttons again they just made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► option so like it it's these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► kinds of papering over design flaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► really or poor design choices so i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► with you in the sense that you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► obviously anybody who who need these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► what most people would would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► accessibility reason you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► kind of a broad definition but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► more power to it's great that we had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/240">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► options but be I think we shouldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► need these options because the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► should be designed in a way to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► inclusive and usable to begin with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► the fact that it keeps going away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► that is kind of a design flaw in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► opinion but yeah it was funny listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► to reconcile differences because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► flip a couple episodes behind when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► you and I were getting into a John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► then I caught up and I was listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► on the rectus and I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► actually that makes a lot more sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► i wish i could I should have taken notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► or something and tried to pinpoint what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► about your description made more sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► to me then but I remember leaving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► thinking well I think I'm on his side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► that's weird just coming to peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► pressure because i had someone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► show agree with me see her to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/285">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► may be the same way you like the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► is doing and I'm swayed by this court at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► first that was the yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► Merlin point out this week that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► first episode then I talked about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► ATP is just because of the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► schedules are different soon i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► was also less worked up with a but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► general on our show when you to both not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► only disagree with me but seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► think it was what i was saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► ridiculous i couldn't believe that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► didn't see how this was like just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► incredible gap like this but this cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► stand I said it and I'll say it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► like it just it just seemed like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► that's why I was willing to do the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► dollar bet I mean you know me i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► big like gambler right but you seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/319">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► you really you know I first one was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/323">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► a big deal but it's just like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► they just have to change they just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/328">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► to like it's not just like well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► it's those we just seemed like it had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► be done and they're doing it so good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► i wish i had the beta now but not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► actually install the beta so hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► the point release will be out soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► i've been using my phone with reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► motion still off every time I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► send effect i go to settings turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► back on sunday affect her off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► Wow right so John tell me about com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/348">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► people're this is one more data point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► the ongoing discussion of the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/354">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► pluses fake background blur thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/358">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► it does last show we talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/362">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► confirmation that it was not taking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► a fuzzy picture from one camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► combining with another one but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► instead of taking the background finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► it and learning with a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► algorithm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► about that that didn't quite look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► the same way an optical blurring looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► almost will be able to tell and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/383">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► anyway I'm kind of people running with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► blog post exploring the various ways you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► can blur things to try to make them look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► like an out-of-focus picture from a lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► so we'll link to that blog postings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► that's a stupid passes last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► measurements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► yeah I think so he's a filmmaker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► photographer so he's know some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► about this and we had someone named Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► Gunn's burger right into say that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► worked on tools that do this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► computer animation like that make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► birth blur the background that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► actually blurring the camera but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► want to make it look like it was and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► says that to do it properly is very CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► intensive that they have situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► would take multiple minutes per frame to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► calculate the blur so obviously that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► non-starter if it takes multiple minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► on what I assume is pretty beefy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► hardware in the visual effects world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► do the blur the quorum court right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► if Apple's gotta do it and they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► real-time right country like a preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► of the blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/437">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► yeah yeah Cameron think so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► multiple minutes per frame is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► to happen there so Apple maybe currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► constrained not only by the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► they're faking it for the fact they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► to fake it and and do it in real time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► the the the a-10 is fast but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► fast enough to take an operation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► takes multiple minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► nevermind it's also multiple minutes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the well I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► resolution is but how many megapixels is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the 12 27 camera 8 12 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/460">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► yeah that is that higher res than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► 4k film probably harder than 2k right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► it's higher than porque no yeah 4k is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/468">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► just over 8 megapixels anyway i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► what is that doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► faking it the right way is is expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► so that would explain a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► the crappiness also has some more funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► pictures of the blur messing up were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► posted various places wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► somewhere in the slack we saw a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► of a person shot from like the knees up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► standing in front of something with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► arms that aside and the background was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► blurred but the gap between his arms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► his body the cameras didn't find it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► that the background was pin-sharp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► you look between his arms and his body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► but the whole rest of the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► blur looks really weird that was Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► hack it wasn't it it was his brother and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► yeah imagine your arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► write your side but there's a gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► between your arms and your body and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► glance especially not like blown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► full-size I didn't notice the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► wrong with it but then as I looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► closer and I think because somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► pointed out it turns out that like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► said the area between his brother's arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► and his torso was super sharp whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/528">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► all the area around his brother was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► blurred like you would have expected so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► it was kind of funny to see and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► this is to be expected in to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► it'sit's portrait mode not entire body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/541">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► mode and so you know it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► being used as designed but it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► a funny thing to see in a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► of where it kind of falls on its face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► today anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► alright moving on let's talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/554">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► ceramic iphone eat there's been a though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/558">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► that maybe not in the last week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► but right when the apple watch edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► came out there was a lot of talk of well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► if this works for a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► why wouldn't this work for a phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► think there's a lot of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► conversations about this and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► different ways this can go and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► for one am very concerned about drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► ability not to say these phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► terrible droppable as it is but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► it would a ceramic case like shatter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► would that work so so where do we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► this going for a potential ceramic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/591">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► iphone eat well I mean it depends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► you know it's like some of the possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► reasons why they would do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► well there was this one big corp post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► that I think kind of got this started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► from from somebody who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► material sciences much more than we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► so forgive me for the details here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► I mean ceramic it has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► advantages / aluminum one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► that it's radio transparent so that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► rid of a lot of antenna problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► it's also it's incredibly you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► kind of ceramics that you use in a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► we it can be incredibly scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► resistant and fairly strong you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► shatter it it's kinda like sapphire like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► you can shatter with very strong impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► but it takes a pretty pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► impact to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► anything less than that is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► invulnerable to ceramic could be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► very tough and you know that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► mold in different shades and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► means there's lots of like manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► of how you would do it and apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► some interesting patterns in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► but that they appear not have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► used for anything yet they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► could do it i don't think any of us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► enough about manufacturing to know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► details beyond that of like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► could do it for durability that lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► we also heard a rumor recently that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► are that they're going back to the steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► band around the outside design like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► we had with the 4 and 4s it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► they have glass on both sides glass has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► many of the same properties of ceramic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► as you know you can make it radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► transparent and you can make glossy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► you can make a pretty scratch-resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► obviously there's some durability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► questions there but I don't I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/676">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► think Apple solution right now to phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► durability to the impacts two drops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► everything and their solution right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► is cases and applecare like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► that's basically it's like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► drop your phone if you're the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► person dropped your phone frequently get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► a really strong case for it and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► break it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/696">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► hopefully you bought apple care because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► we're gonna make that easy for you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► I'm honestly not sure that they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► need to do that much more work in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/701">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► durability department if it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► you know make the phone hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► manufacturer or less desirable or ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► or like you know gross and plasticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► like I don't know and do you think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► cases and applecare are enough it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► I think they do need to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► durability is just like like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► they are not willing to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► compromises that would require I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► they can make the phone incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► durable they just made the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► freaking thing out of plastic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► plastic feels gross as a screen like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► all want to move our hands across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► glass screen because it feels better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► so they keep trying to make the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► tougher but there's only so much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► can do and they spent a long time moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/736">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► away from glass like they did before in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the forest there like we're taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► break from that for a while because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► four in the forest had two sides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► could break the screen to break in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► front and the back you know and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► particles chatter at least one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► all the loom designs the 5256 success in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► the seven that's a lot of phones the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► front could shatter backs never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► shattered bend a little sometimes didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► shatter scratch didn't shatter right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► the rumor for the next iphone is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► to be all glass as you said i have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► worked on the shattering thing did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► have stronger or more shadow resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► glass i'm not sure what one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► property of glass that's potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/775">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/776">TS</a>]

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00:19:10 ◼   ► during baking and then the reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► machining and polishing and so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► this watch for all the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► true believers in the future surround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► the iphone rumor this watch looks to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► the world like the original macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► which was the trial run of the unibody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► construction that would eventually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► across the entire product line so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► this watch thing works out and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► master this process by selling a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► number of these very expensive watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► to people then maybe we'll be four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► follow up phone after the all-glass one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► but you know if this is their trial run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► it's too late for this to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► manufacturing technique tapped for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► year's iphone which already has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► much farther along well and also liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► it manufacturing a this one fairly high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► end fairly you know small market Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► watch model Adams material is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► different for making the back of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► iphone with it like this the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► in scale there's immense like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► even think this is a good enough tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► have to make all the Apple watches have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► ceramic to have it be even close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► right kind of test but obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► gonna do that yet so we'll say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► also building off of this i saw a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► that was linked to buy a friend sharon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► jones that is entitled the iphone 7 i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► been waiting for in the whole video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► two-and-a-half minutes and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► to see it in its full glory just pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► us for two-and-a-half minutes and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► watch you don't need audio on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► video there for listening to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► presumably that's not a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► so what happens is this is this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► takes an iphone 7 and like saws off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► the sides of it such that they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► flat instead of a dance and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► whatever I want this I want this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► because this matte black iphone 7 that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► have i love it i really really do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► more you use it the more i like it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► think aesthetically it's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► iphone yet but this thing is adorned bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► soap and i would love I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► I've never handled this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► gentleman's phone but it stands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► reason it would be much easier to grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► with the flat sides i would love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► an iphone like this but in black now not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► so yeah I i want this please can I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► I think you only want because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► haven't seen it up close yeah it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► notice the video was kind of quick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► show the phone once it was all done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► this dream s gotta be a mess because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► this is not a precision operation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► got to look like a phone that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► just messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► yeah I didn't it didn't look good if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► try to look closely at the shape look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► good but the finish did not right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► the thing like if this was officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► done i think would be pretty impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► oh yeah I think that would be neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► alright so i talked to my phone many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► past episodes and my wife's going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► cruise the Mediterranean cruise and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► was gonna bring the fancy camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► lenses and talk about that anyway she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► went she's back she brought the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► back in one piece did not drop it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► the ocean took a bunch of pictures with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► it and when I was going through her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► pictures getting them sorted into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► photos library after return i noticed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► bunch of them and she noticed too she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► said just wait there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► something in a bunch of the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► you'll see it soon a dark line that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► appears in a bunch of pictures and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► line kind of look semi circular some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► like is that like a shadow of a lens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► something but then I noticed some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► ones the line is not perfectly curved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► like a circle sometimes it changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► angle and I'm like well okay lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► aberration wouldn't do that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► lenses are all around or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► spiritual they're not that oddly shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► like I men sometimes the curve in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► opposite direction and it would move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► around and so i posted on Twitter can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► anyone tell me what's causing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► vertical curve shadow lines in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► pictures and posted a bunch of sample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► pictures and then everyone commented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► about where the pictures are from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► whether they've been there or not but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► addition to that bunch of people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► have guesses as to what it might be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► guess was that it was maybe something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► the lens because it was in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► pictures so many different environments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► I didn't think it was what it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► which is a hair in front of the lens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► something because you know you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► hair is under control wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► constantly in front lens the lens zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► lens so it's pretty far away I inspected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► the lenses and there's nothing on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► I knew there was stuff on my sensor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► could see there like that you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► the same pictures some dots and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► see on the sense that there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37 ◼   ► dust they need to get rid of but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► like what the hell is this line and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► lot of people have theories and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► theory was exactly correct this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► magic of a crowdsourcing the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► Twitter this theory was it is a hair the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► hair is not on the sensor there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► the lens there is not in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► elements in lens would rather the hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► is caught in the channel that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► shutter curtain moves in and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► shutter curtain comes down it snags or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► otherwise grabs the hair and the channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► and briefly flicks it in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► sensor as it moves up and down and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► appears and only appears within pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► with a very small aperture because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► wide aperture lights coming in for too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► many angles and it just eliminates all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17 ◼   ► behind you don't see it so you see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► pictures of the sky or another you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► thing with lots of light where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► aperture has to squeeze down really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► small and then most of the incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► light rays are traveling in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► direction then you get a shadow this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► little hair and the way I found it after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► having series looked in the channel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► way down in the corner of the channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► just kind of peeking out like an angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► like cutting off the corner of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► educators the challengers the bottom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► little tiny hair and so when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► SuperDuper carefully with a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► tweezers and all the dad knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► like a centimeter and a half long very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► fond of non-human doesn't look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► human look like a hair from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► rabbit or a squirrel or something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► small and I got that out of there so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► was like thank God because some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► other theories like oh there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► wrong with your shutter and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► dragging something on the thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► whatever my or you just have to bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► camera back i was so happy to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► actually extract a hairline yes this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► the thing and then you know of course i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► had to go through the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► processing over the desk so I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► one of those sensor cleaning kits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► the way you do this is you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► picture of a blue sky and intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► crank the aperture down to a very tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► opening oh are you just put an auto if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► the sky is bright enough and you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► picture of what you think it's blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► blue sky and then you bring it back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► your favorite photo application you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► filled with the contrast and see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► can see anything looks like a dot and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► you do see something like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► still dust on it and so I use the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► cleaning kit which is a little scary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► know like the people you can damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► essentially be super careful but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► bought a thing specifically for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► purpose they like square on a stick kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► of thing now yeah there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► disposable single you swabs yep yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► specifically size for the sensors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► just just one swipe only and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► throw them in the garbage is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► wasteful but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► yep and have used two of them one with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► little spritz of the stuff on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► without the spirits of the stuff anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► and a little blower to get most i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► to just use the bloggers I don't touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► get all your little talk it already got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► all this stuff yeah but the blower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► didn't dislodge a couple of stubborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► things so i use the thing took a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► of pictures the sky now my sensors clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► which always maybe think that camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► manufacturers could really really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► with this problem but just putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► something I mean I like I've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► DSLR but i assume that the mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► doesn't actually seal up and i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► covers the sensor but doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► like cover doesn't keep dust out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► now alright so they they should and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► mirrorless cameras should have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► door kind of like the shutter but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► the shutter that closes before you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► take the lens off like why not do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► you know I mean you stop to think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► sensor sometimes you still have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► a mechanism like you do wanna said SLR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► to flip the lines up so you can clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► the sensor right but why expose it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► the air at all when you're changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► lenses just put it on maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► enough room for a door whatever not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► shutter the shoulder is the shutter fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► I'm just has to be high speed and fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► and so is over there's a plain old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► boring reasonably sealed door that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► closes and covers the sensor when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► change lenses that would be a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► camera manufacturers anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► moral of the story is i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► correctly convey to my wife exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► careful you have to be when changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► lanes is not that she even changed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► she just changed it once and the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► takes once for a little just like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► time I did it on my long island vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► was like the lens can only be off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► camera for shortest possible time I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► have liked staged and setup and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► never be have it upwards and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► lens off the cap on lens capital units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► like it was like trying to defuse a bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► and again never do it in a still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► environment with still air never point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► the lens or the camera like just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► you know it's it's nerve-racking and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► know she spent a lot of time in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► vacation with this hair traveling up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► down the channel on the shutter we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► just kind of disappointing it's I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► it's it didn't ruin all her pictures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► enough of them have a big dark line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► that's kinda disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► luckily almost everything indoors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► doesn't have this problem because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► the apertures too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► that stinks i'm sorry to hear that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► we're problem and you know I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► the person's name hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► but and god only knows this is true or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► not but I'm taking them at face value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► somebody told me that are the micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► four-thirds cameras which is what i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► they all have optical image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► stabilization or a lot of them if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► all of them on the body rather than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► lens and they were saying that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► person was saying that when you turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► camera on it will actually use the OIS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► to like shake off any dust that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► on the lens i have no idea if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► true or not what a cool idea even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► isn't true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► it's a pretty common feature it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► doesn't actually work perfectly but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► like are exactly like what like are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► 5d mark two is that we had didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► stabilization but just had some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like sensor like vibrator thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► would like try to buzz off the dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► every time you turn the camera off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► and so to have that just constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► going like every time a camera turns off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► we did occasionally have to blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► something up the sensor with the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► days but very rarely that I think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► like eight years we use them i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► maybe three or four times total whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► with with my sony when I gotta last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► literally the first week I had it I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► dust of the sensor and similar similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► story just not less severe like we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► it was last year with the beach house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► lots of my pictures had this one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► spot and eventually took the land office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► and spotted on the land on the sensor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► was on vacation so I couldn't really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► didn't have any of the cleaning so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► just kinda tolerated it just ended it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► out is it wasn't too bad to edit out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► everything but but yeah that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► camera was like a week old habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► immediately and and yeah these you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► realize how good those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► automatically vibrate the the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► things are until you have a camera that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► doesn't do it or doesn't have it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► sonys it it has that feature but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► that it doesn't do it every time it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► it only on demand and it only partially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► works but now i think that that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► could help a little bit but in my case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► first holding on the hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► there's not even on the sensors you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► a sensor all you want it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► help that would have been there and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► the dust the pieces that I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► eventually use the mechanical method of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► actually swapping them off the blower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► the little you know hurricane blower you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► know shoot various concentrating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► couldn't even remove them like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► on their good wasn't just like instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► dust that happened to float on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► they were so wedged on there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► very force of old very concentrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► stream there cannot dislodge them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► actually had to swipe them away so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► have a little faith in a sensor shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► would have taken them off to ya but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► again a door with some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► reasonable ceiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► who better than nothing would go a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► way towards making me a changing lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► less nerve-racking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► now i do the same way you do and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► sure marcos the same as well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► everything stage ready to go the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► always upside down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► I'm not as intent on it being still air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► but you know we do we can and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► thought of this happening to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► terrifying so I'm very impressed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► were able to get this done without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► destroying lens or the the sensor which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► is what I surely somehow would have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► knowing the ad poured water on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► somehow i don't know how you could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► people say oh it's so Delta you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► be careful like it looks pretty sturdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► down there I mean you're swapping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► when I swab the cross it felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► smooth surface but the swab it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► like it has little snake like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► understand how you go about breaking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► I suppose you could scratch it in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► way but only thing I'm touching it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► these microfiber swabi things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► assume are safe and yeah I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► don't have to do that again but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► taking pictures an empty blue sky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► checking for any little splotches on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► you'll see them like you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► be an expert to be especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► start feeling with the contrast control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► you will find the spots that are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► because I swapped it and I can see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► the spot used to be was still a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► you know i had actually remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► material I couldn't see with my eyeballs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► anymore but on the sensor gets a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► spot and that's why I had to use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the cleaning stuff and then that got rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► of it for good now just messing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► controls trying to find any little speck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► and I was like oh that's jpeg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► compression nevermind to Rose I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► anyway i'm pretty sure i didn't destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► my camera still seems to work no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► hair no more spots right so i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► brief tale of woe and a plea for help on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► my work computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► I typically use a pair of headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► bluetooth headphones i bought literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► i bought it and they're perfect in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► way as we've always heard yeah about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► that so i bought them on august 15 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► and their Arctic sound p 3 11 service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► have espoused the numerous times because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► while they are not perfect they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► accomplish everything satisfactorily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► inside of that satisfactory way so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1976">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► are sufficient you know is how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► horsepower does it does the rolls-royce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► have sufficient amount of horsepower i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► upgraded to sierra on-line on my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09 ◼   ► Mac and suddenly they are not sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► anymore for whatever reason and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► know why they sound like a hugely hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► hugely compressed and I ran into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► once years ago and it ended up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► there was like a bit value or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► like that you could change in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► bluetooth Explorer app which you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► get via xcode tools now and that fix my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► problem like years ago i've noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► when this first happened the symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► were terrible and super compressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► it was just awful and i was able to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► try doing the same thing this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► did make a difference so I unpair repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► I've done all sorts of things I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► tried again after having cleared my peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► am just for grins and giggles I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► everything except that and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► well maybe just something weird is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► their ancient headphones at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► let me just get a new set so i got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► equivalent set that's newer and so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► they came in today and they are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► Arctic sound but these are p 2 53 and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► will have links to these and show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► and I a good news bad news good news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► they sound great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► well as great as a thirty-dollar set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► bluetooth headphones can sound but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► time there's any audio playing of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► sort the right channel has a buzzing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► them which in the span of about 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► seconds drove me absolutely crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► it took that long yeah how did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► review possibly start out any positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► so I'm returning these headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► because it did you know like hand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► heart i did not know this for some if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► not all things you can return it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► amazon for free yeah but usually you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► to meet her and shipping and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► leaders like six bucks from your from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► your return or something I was that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► it does okay because it according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► them they were like your shipping label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► and I didn't come across compare how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► much the cost of the item was versus how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► much they were saying they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► refund me so maybe that's what it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► anyway so it's it's super awesome day if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► you ever returning amazon they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► incredibly easy on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► yep so i am going to return them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► here's my predicament i want for better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► or worse bluetooth headphones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► understand that not everyone wants them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► i do i prefer bluetooth headphones and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► think the reason i prefer them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► because convenience is a bigger priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► to me than perfect sound fidelity well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► then in that case just wait for the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► pods well so here's the thing i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► that that's probably going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► best answer but they supposedly only run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► for five hours before they need a charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► and I know that it will charged quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► but I typically sit at my desk meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► aside 488 behalf hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► these ancient headphones with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► five-year-old battery that I love so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► used to go like two two-and-a-half days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► between charges easily and with meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► during the day and whatnot so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► exactly an apples-to-apples comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► but you get my point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► I think the answer is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► getting pods but is there any and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► is kind of rhetorical kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► especially for You Marco is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► set of bluetooth headphones that whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► or not they are perfect audio fidelity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► because again i don't care for Marco's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► purposes let's just assume i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► listen to music on them which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► complete nutter life but let's just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► for your purposes if you are satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► with podcast fidelity that will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► be sufficient for my music fidelity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► this use case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► are there any headphones bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► headphones that have batteries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► lasts about 10 hours let's say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► don't suck and here's the kicker though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► that have a bar that goes behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► back of your neck rather than over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► head why ladies and gentlemen because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► am weird in my hair kind of sticks up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► oops and if i put a bar across the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► of my head 48 hours it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► it'll have like that imprint in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► always which is not advisable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► so all my ladies and gentlemen you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► have just said manatee yes actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► was that was an easy why you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► to mess up your hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► that's why right that is absolutely hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► on heart that no argument absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► absolutely true there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► advantages to both of us anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► yeah haha so I i'm making fun of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► but I really honestly am asking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► maybe we don't answer during the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► but I don't have anything against your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► buds but i'd rather have an over here or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► like the ones that I had kind of dangled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► on your ear which I understand makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► most people crazy but for me I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► so is it will put the links to the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► I'm talking about in the show notes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► there any set of bluetooth headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► that's even vaguely like this that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► not a total piece of garbage that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► would not have to charge in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► of the day if I have to charge him every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► fine no big deal but I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► charge the middle of the day I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► Marco you're absolutely right what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► gonna end up happening is I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► spend way more money than I want to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► I'm gonna get the earpods and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► probably love them and it will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► be fine and I'll put them in the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2302">TS</a>]

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00:38:25 ◼   ► know the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2305">TS</a>]

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00:38:31 ◼   ► preferably not buds but buds I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► maybe entertain is there anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2314">TS</a>]

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00:38:41 ◼   ► hope but ultimately provide no value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► whatsoever haha so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2323">TS</a>]

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00:38:49 ◼   ► i've been considering just stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► reviewing headphones because i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► because i want you to review the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2332">TS</a>]

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00:38:55 ◼   ► is in vogue ish kind of here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► so basically like you know right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► everyone keeps asking me you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2340">TS</a>]

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00:39:07 ◼   ► lot in the last couple years since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► since i started my big review his like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2348">TS</a>]

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00:39:14 ◼   ► have so many different needs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► fact is like it takes a lot of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► to buy or somehow acquire all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► headphones and test them properly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2364">TS</a>]

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00:39:28 ◼   ► cutter does that they have like a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► team of people doing it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► time and that's what they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► full-time job is to work on stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► this and also the headphone market has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► gotten had basically like well as beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► came around a few years ago it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► people took notice of here's a place we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► can make a lot of money so now there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► tons of headphone brands and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► like allegedly awesome new headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► coming out on the market all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► and many of them are very expensive many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► of them are like you know four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► dollars and up basically which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► know for for an audio file that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► of normal but for regular person is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► very expensive pair of headphones so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► there are so many now that almost nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► including the wire cutter actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► reviews a meaningful number of them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► be able to give you a a useful blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► recommendation like if you read the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► cutter they always go through and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► the things that they'll spend a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► paragraphs doing is saying like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► the ones we tested and here's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► bunch we didn't even test because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► know the reviews it look at an Amazon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► what you know whatever other reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► they have because you you basically have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► to rule out large swathes of what's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► there just to have her a possible number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► to review and with bluetooth everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► is is even worse now because now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► like even more factors that matter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► before you have to worry about as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► things like latency you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► weather you compared to multiple devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► or not whether whether it has decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► reception the phone whether it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► different codecs that are now out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► and then like the useful things like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► you how you control with others buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► on it or some kind of touch gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► controls to control like pausing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► volume and stuff it is so complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► now there are so many models from thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► dollars to a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► yep no reviewer can meaningfully try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► good numbers here going to happen now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► right now as I speak as people as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► are writing you emails telling you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► they bought and say these are the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► but all they can tell you is that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► they bought because they probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► tried between 0 and five other players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► out of a market with hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► centuries there's really nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► most people can tell you that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► very helpful even on amazon have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► reviews on Amazon these days are fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► they paid their their fraud like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► hard to find good information with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► kind of stuff so basically how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► find the ones you have now was it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► you know browse online a bit look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► some reviews and just buy them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► that's what you're gonna have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► again like that's that when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► buying headphones that's basically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2517">TS</a>]

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00:42:02 ◼   ► a place that reviewed about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► headphones in a way that was useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► you people have such widely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► tastes in headphones people have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► different preferences like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► list that i made disagreed substantially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2530">TS</a>]

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00:42:15 ◼   ► places like that there are there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► few big head reviews out there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► world that I disagree strongly with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► somebody agrees and strong with and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► can never know like what you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► find out there because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► subjective like there is no like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► that people always think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► like some idea of how headphones should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► sound but there isn't one that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► agrees on either there's a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► of argument about that but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► there is no such thing as like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► best way a headphone should sound that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► why the agreed-upon basically no one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► tell you anything that is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2564">TS</a>]

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00:42:49 ◼   ► Amazon reading a few user reviews and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► just picking one and if it sucks return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2573">TS</a>]

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00:42:58 ◼   ► time to invest in a pair bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► headphones because the airport is aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► out yet and even though i expect them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► sound really mediocre at best because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► Apple has apple has not made a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► headphones that sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► including all the ones by beats they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► have not making the sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2594">TS</a>]

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00:43:29 ◼   ► that sounds horrible that they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► worst thing in the world but listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2611">TS</a>]

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00:44:05 ◼   ► all there are other ways airports are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► probably going to be pretty great if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2647">TS</a>]

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00:44:19 ◼   ► rather have convenience over sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2659">TS</a>]

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00:44:23 ◼   ► their dynamics that are listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2663">TS</a>]

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00:44:28 ◼   ► ancient but still sound phenomenal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2668">TS</a>]

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00:44:43 ◼   ► where I am worrying about perfect audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/2683">TS</a>]

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00:51:52 ◼   ► the nexus brand and we haven't needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► care about those yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► historically they've been pretty rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► with any kind of retail presence of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► kind of deals with the carrier to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► their phones promoted into stores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► everything it's been it's been not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► one of your strong points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► you know the android marketplace is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► really just been for the most part the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► samsung marketplace in recent years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► timing of this is interesting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► Samsung having a pretty bad time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► now with with this note 7 disaster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► Google coming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► hey we we have an alternative for you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► you want to keep with Android and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► going to carriers now and saying hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► can integrate with us now we'll pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► your bloatware crap on there as it left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► I saw story that's been doing that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the timing is is opportune for Google to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► to take back some of the android inertia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► from Samsung a little bit but i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► we have we still have not seen google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► really show the world yet that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► first party hardware products can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► actually get any traction in retail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► the marketplace so you know if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► then great then we have another strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► competitor the industry will be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► off customers we better off but i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► don't see why why we need to care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► this yet because the based on their past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► the chances of is really taking off I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► don't think our are guaranteed i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► for the first time they have a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► pitches and an ad campaign that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► chance of resonating with iOS users as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► we mentioned a couple shows ago the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► whole thing of like making fun of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► iphone where you take a picture and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► shows you're out of storage touting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► whole you know Google we take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► pictures and then throw up to the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► and our crap actually works type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► angle and then this is just one step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► further along the same lines for saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► you get this phone not only does our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► stuff work to put yourself in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► but we don't charge you some big monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► fee for your storage get this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► don't worry about storage anymore really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► don't worry about it you have unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► storage in the cloud so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► in this article on the verge talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► about the same like see Apple see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► you have to do once you give people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► cloud storage equal to the size of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► phone which was the only thing you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► about one just get wise an apple just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► this and made the answers obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► because google monetizes the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► you uploaded to the cloud google you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► know anonymizing looks at your crap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► then lose use it for machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► your dad doesn't like you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► they're not as privacy focuses apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► well but that's see that's kind of a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► example though because people say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► who can afford to do this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► they're making money off your privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► Apple can't do this but that's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► Apple makes money to make tons of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► off the hardware I i would bet apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► make it more per phone then Google will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► yeah I know but it's the same business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► though they're both that like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► say which company is able to make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► money of things but in the end there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► there's apple to Apple they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► making phones somehow that both making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► the operating system somehow that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► running the cloud services stores your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► photos somehow right and if Apple's able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► to make more money on hardware and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► money on services and Google's reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3298">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► that's all well and good but google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► one big thing that apple doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► that there's no apples-to-apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► comparison for which is we have a search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► engine that brings us huge amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► money through advertising and huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► amounts of data to feed into our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► analytical engine to figure out like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► know anything you can imagine wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► do with machine learning google has so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► many inputs into that system that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► has no you know no comparison so even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► Apple want to do everything google does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► in terms of monetizing your data they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► can't because they don't have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► input into the system it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► valuable to them so what we have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► pictures what can we do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► well you can use it to feed your engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► the figures huh cell searches what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► mean search as we don't have a search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► engine right so Google still has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► big strength in terms of monetizing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► stuff and you're right there saying well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► apples got a lot of money in the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► Apple could get free unlimited cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► video storage to all the customers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► the next 150 years and only cut like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► tiny sliver off the mountain of cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► they have right that is all true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► no i'm not even talking about like cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► like cash reserves are now using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► profit margins on the hardware right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► they make more money on the harbor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► right like the the google model is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► going to we're going to somehow get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► this phone then we're gonna make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► on you over time as you use our stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► with that Apple model is we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► make money on this phone upfront and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► the way with this to make money off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► everybody with their thirty percent cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► from the app store and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► but you know it even if they only make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► money from the phone hardware from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► somebody and there and then after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► point that person is a cost Center as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► they get all their iCloud stuff hosted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► for free or whatever else they want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► plan like this you're still making money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► somewhere and there's plenty of profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► on a phone that's priceless phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► priced they could if they wanted to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► give people cloud storage in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► would probably not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► that's significant impact on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► margins they just don't do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► they like making the next level five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► bucks a month from the very small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► of people who are going to buy cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► storage or whatever but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► setting aside how you pay for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► again both companies can pay for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► their own ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► apple doesn't have to become this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► ad companies invade your privacy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► enough profit margin iphone to host your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► photos for a couple years google does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► that anyway but you know they even they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► don't if they're selling the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► that you don't necessarily to elevated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► want to but so assuming both companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► have ways to pay for it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► both do without changing their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► models they both ways to pay for it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► I think Google's approach of giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► more of that like hosting that is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► more customer friendly approach it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► much more likely approach to succeed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► in terms of getting people to use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► these photo uploads getting people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► actually have their photos backed up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► the cloud somehow and I wish Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► that being said that isn't today's apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► style that's not that's not like a tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► cook or even Steve Jobs Apple style i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► don't see them doing that anytime for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the foreseeable future but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► that's a shame because I think not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► could they afford to do without becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► a privacy innovative company just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► the margin they already have but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► it makes for a way better customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3487">TS</a>]

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00:58:54 ◼   ► breaking down its its margins dividing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► out services separately so if Apple's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3538">TS</a>]

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01:00:03 ◼   ► are running all the stuff it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3603">TS</a>]

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01:00:25 ◼   ► about google but this is just more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► the same with them because they ok well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3626">TS</a>]

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01:00:36 ◼   ► more use we have the more money we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► even if our margins aren't that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► and in theory like like Casey said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3640">TS</a>]

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01:00:49 ◼   ► probably cheaper materials in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3649">TS</a>]

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01:00:52 ◼   ► as obsessive about manufacturing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3652">TS</a>]

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01:00:56 ◼   ► design their own ships are buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► off-the-shelf from Qualcomm which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► that the pic kuala margin where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► handed down to pay for the R&D to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► develop the chip in the you know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► in theory google could be making similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► margins to apple they're just not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► at this business they don't make enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► phones they're not as good as Apple so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► they don't make as big margins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► similarly for the server side component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► apples not as good at Google is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► I'm sure apple stuff costs more to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3677">TS</a>]

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01:01:21 ◼   ► services that it's less reliable less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► performance less scalable and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► probably costs Apple more than across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► cool because Google's really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► this stuff and has a much bigger scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► and they have a much bigger scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► because they don't just run a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► that stores people's photos they run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► world's biggest search engine and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► of other crap and they have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► servers in a lot of storage and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► in-house hardware and software and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► how to make this work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► so this is definitely asymmetrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3704">TS</a>]

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01:01:53 ◼   ► as the perfect move to try to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► get people who were iphone users to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► at the other side of the fence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3719">TS</a>]

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01:02:03 ◼   ► Samsung because they catch on fire by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3723">TS</a>]

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01:02:12 ◼   ► talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3732">TS</a>]

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01:02:16 ◼   ► storage are the work hours will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3736">TS</a>]

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01:02:27 ◼   ► they just did it and say we're paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3747">TS</a>]

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01:02:31 ◼   ► that would be bad for apple pie came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3751">TS</a>]

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01:02:42 ◼   ► paying for that customers photo stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3762">TS</a>]

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01:03:10 ◼   ► about it right but what if it does well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3792">TS</a>]

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01:03:16 ◼   ► to wait to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3796">TS</a>]

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01:03:45 ◼   ► start to pull away customers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► react to it rather than giving away a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► bunch of money right from the services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► division that is your your growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► darling in the absence of anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► huh it we've talked about storage sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► for phones and storage sizes for cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► and how Apple is not historically been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► very competitive there and they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► adjusting their prices to try to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► competitive Google is doing the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► that google is able to do enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► how much your storage tiers cost enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► about dropbox across this much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13 ◼   ► iCloud Drive cost as much and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► to pay for this and your photos don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► count but then the bio cloud backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18 ◼   ► camera enough of that everything free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20 ◼   ► for everybody like they're there is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► beyond the back place where it's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► dollars limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► like everything unlimited free because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► and and I feel like Google the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► google is offering on these phones is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► because they are selling for iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31 ◼   ► prices i think a lot of the storage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► being subsidized by the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► bought some really expensive phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► know this is as far as I'm aware this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► deal is not being offered generically on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► the cheapest android phone you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► you have to buy the pixel right yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► isn't it isn't any android phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► specifically the pixel phones right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► which is a super expensive phone so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► think google is actually find funding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► this with a little bit of the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► from immigrant probably not a sizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► deliver the artist was very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► phone and as we've all learned painfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► unlimited I mean it's unlimited as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:04 ◼   ► as it's unlimited until it's not limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► anymore usually by terms of the contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► would say we can end this deal at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► time or the company going out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► business as a picture life or the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► whose name I've already forgotten ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► picks ever Betsy I wasn't very ever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► oh I don't think people really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23 ◼   ► about like you know always not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► unlimited like get while the getting's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► good like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► by all means that you know if anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► offers i'm not going to turn up my nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► at it and say oh I don't want on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► limited storage said no it's not limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► forever who cares to put the limited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► a year it's worthwhile looking for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► years or three years just take it while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► you can get it don't be like I I refused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► to commit to this free product unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► I'm guaranteed that it will outlast me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► and my descendants like whatever just ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► know if nothing is forever just take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52 ◼   ► deal anyway I I'm not sure Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► react to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► I Apple needs to get better at doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► cloud services they need to have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► photo storage work better in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► iCloud photo library funny room should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► do all the things that Google's photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► does but it doesn't and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► frustrated by so they need to get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► at they need to be able to do it cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► they need to adjust their pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► because whether google sells a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► these phones are not they are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► they're they're moving the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19 ◼   ► they're saying this is this is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► bar if you can't meet this bar you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22 ◼   ► forever be seen as more competitive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24 ◼   ► if i just bought a google pixel art more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► expensive and i just want to go to pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► so does Apple lower the prices do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► go free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► history has shown that it will take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► long time to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► go free on its storage considering how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► long it's taken them to offer notion new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► storage tears into lower their prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► they seem pretty stubborn about that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► you blame us on Eddy you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► sure one else do that time but uh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► you either way this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► in theory this phone is hitting Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► where it hurts and hopefully someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► apples paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► yeah I also love that they mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► during the keynote and it's on the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► if you scroll down weighs about halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► down the page that they include a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► section that's a switch in three simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► steps connect signing and transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► connect your old iPhone or Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► device to connect your old iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► android device your new pixel with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► quick switch adapter which apparently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► USB be whatever the normal USB recept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► goal is to us bc which is what the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► uses sign into your Google account on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► your pixel or create a new one and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► transfer choose what you want to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► like contacts calendar events photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► videos music SMS messages I msgs not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39 ◼   ► really sure how that's working and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41 ◼   ► than sit back and let the pixel do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► work and this little adapters in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44 ◼   ► single box so they're getting aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► and I think that's good and I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48 ◼   ► Stephen Hawking amongst others that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50 ◼   ► you know this is healthy for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► companies when when Apple is doing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► which hopefully they are i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► it depends when he asked us and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► Google's doing well then that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01 ◼   ► thing because this competition keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► makes both of our products better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► I'm curious to see if this really sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► in any volume i can tell you that of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► four developers on the Android t5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► developers on the Android team in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► office two of them bought the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► while they were in the keynote or while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► we were watching the keynote which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► the way was that like 1230-1 o'clock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► the afternoon they set their and mashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27 ◼   ► on the refresh button for like a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► and a half i was super jealous and yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31 ◼   ► think about this and yes most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33 ◼   ► were like oh yeah well you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► have five people buying these funds will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► I don't care it's still not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39 ◼   ► middle of the night and so i'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► jealous of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► but we'll see i'm anxious to see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► devices when they come in for my coat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► my co-workers so I can see what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:46 ◼   ► of them but I'm I'm cautiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:51 ◼   ► optimistic like this isn't a phone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► me but it could be if I if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► jump to the other side of the fence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► ok one more thing on the pixel I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:01 ◼   ► see the entire video presentation is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► parts of it and one part that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► particularly interested in is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► daydream vr thing that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► another one of these situations where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► you take your phone and you shove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► into a headset and then half the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► screen shows where your left i supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16 ◼   ► to see and have the phone screen shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► with you're right i supposed to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► wear a pair of goggles that makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► all focus and work out reasonably well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22 ◼   ► and you try to have a little miniature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► portable VR experience which is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► something considering you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► serious vr development involves max in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33 ◼   ► any way and yet we're able to do it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► these crappy phones that are not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36 ◼   ► powerful as Apple's obviously the VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39 ◼   ► experience compared to a pc is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► different on the phone you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► to have the same type of thing you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► a HTC vive depending how you want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► that oculus rift or you know even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► the ps4 vr but this is the thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:54 ◼   ► doing and I think the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► part of this is their headset there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4196">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► a lot of these headsets including like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► google cardboard thing which is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► permanent for this is another set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4203">TS</a>]

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01:22:56 ◼   ► need incredibly strong AI skills you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4976">TS</a>]

01:23:00 ◼   ► huge data set to be developing that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02 ◼   ► you need constant updates constant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:05 ◼   ► add ons and new abilities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07 ◼   ► refinements to that data set so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09 ◼   ► basically like a really massive solid AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:12 ◼   ► webservice behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13 ◼   ► Apple's not good at those things apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► can do be web services they can do minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17 ◼   ► I things but they say so far are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19 ◼   ► not good at large scale advanced AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:23 ◼   ► service kind of things and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25 ◼   ► secondarily you need the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► really be able to connect to lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29 ◼   ► different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► this is where the echo does really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32 ◼   ► they have tons of integrations with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34 ◼   ► sorts of services hardware developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► stuff through there a PRI tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39 ◼   ► integrations for Apple to do that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:42 ◼   ► would basically have to relax the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44 ◼   ► requirements for home kit and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46 ◼   ► have to really be a lot more open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48 ◼   ► permissive with developers and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:49 ◼   ► now and do things like open up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51 ◼   ► series API much further than it is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53 ◼   ► now and I just don't see them doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:56 ◼   ► so they could prove me wrong who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59 ◼   ► but if i look at what these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► are good at now and the way they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► i'm guessing apple's version of this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► it exists whenever it whenever it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08 ◼   ► ship i'm guessing it's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► as good as the other two I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12 ◼   ► amazon is gonna own this market for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► for the market share wise but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► the google was probably going to end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:18 ◼   ► being the best one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:19 ◼   ► we're going with anyone could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21 ◼   ► cancelled like them they have a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► one called like on hub or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24 ◼   ► I had sphere shape entertainment thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26 ◼   ► that never went anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:27 ◼   ► google has tried many in home products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► that have not gone anywhere maybe it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► be a flop to but what they have going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► for them like you said as they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:36 ◼   ► the backend like when one Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38 ◼   ► stuff with Siri they just if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:41 ◼   ► know exactly what to do their passing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► on to another service but they're be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► wolframalpha are being or Google like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46 ◼   ► they're that's not them they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48 ◼   ► well we can't make heads or tails of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50 ◼   ► this so we're going to send it to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:51 ◼   ► different company that's good at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:52 ◼   ► stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53 ◼   ► maybe they can figure out what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55 ◼   ► with it which is not really a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► move the other factor about all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► cylinders in your home that you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:01 ◼   ► to that apparently from everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:04 ◼   ► have ever spoken doing my own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05 ◼   ► experience got right and then i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:06 ◼   ► imagine both Apple and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► perhaps forgetting about is the echo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12 ◼   ► surprisingly good at hearing you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► understanding what the hell you said yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17 ◼   ► now after that maybe they can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18 ◼   ► anything with your words maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► bad you know they don't have a good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21 ◼   ► know you have to phrase things in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:22 ◼   ► certain way i would forget about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:23 ◼   ► that but they're good at hearing you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26 ◼   ► getting your words and that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:27 ◼   ► important how often have we tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29 ◼   ► speak into our phones an inch from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31 ◼   ► face and how to get a word wrong whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33 ◼   ► amazon echo again because probably feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35 ◼   ► constrained vocabulary like those phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► trees that you do but also because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:38 ◼   ► have tons of microphones and good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40 ◼   ► noise cancellation and being formed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42 ◼   ► the hell they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► I think a lot of the time for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45 ◼   ► stupid cylinder was spent figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47 ◼   ► how to hear people separate their voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49 ◼   ► from the background noise and understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51 ◼   ► what they said and that is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53 ◼   ► important it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:54 ◼   ► responsiveness on the original iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56 ◼   ► like oh yeah and you could have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:57 ◼   ► and move around it's fine it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► but you don't understand the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00 ◼   ► between you can tap things and slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:01 ◼   ► around its fine and it really feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:04 ◼   ► it's sticking to my finger you may think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► you've checked the same check boxes yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07 ◼   ► we have a touchscreen yep you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09 ◼   ► things around by scrolling your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:10 ◼   ► yep you tap buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12 ◼   ► it's not checkboxes it's like yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► both do the same thing but this aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► of the product is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:17 ◼   ► important that you really have to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► right and amazon has gotten pretty right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22 ◼   ► like who hasn't been in a house with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24 ◼   ► echo and said something in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26 ◼   ► you think that human wouldn't have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27 ◼   ► able to understand you you mumble it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28 ◼   ► from a room away facing the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30 ◼   ► direction and the echo still tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32 ◼   ► like what the score of the game is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34 ◼   ► the weather is kind of being like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35 ◼   ► the hell did hear that yeah that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37 ◼   ► you have to do with these things so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38 ◼   ► hope the cylinder that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40 ◼   ► google home thing does it as well on if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42 ◼   ► Apple ever comes up with the product i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:43 ◼   ► hope they spend tons of time figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45 ◼   ► out how to hack the everybody and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47 ◼   ► be like well Johnny I've said we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:48 ◼   ► have a lot of room for the microphone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:49 ◼   ► we're gonna have these two here this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51 ◼   ► what I'm saying like it is if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53 ◼   ► really devoted like if they really set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55 ◼   ► their minds to it they really prioritize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58 ◼   ► these services and these these product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00 ◼   ► priorities things they could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02 ◼   ► make a pretty good one but I i see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04 ◼   ► being like an accessory really is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06 ◼   ► don't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:07 ◼   ► I don't see Apple taking this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:08 ◼   ► seriously as a product category so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10 ◼   ► what's probably going to end up being is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:13 ◼   ► a relatively low priority relatively low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16 ◼   ► effort product if it exists and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19 ◼   ► of that it's going to be like it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:20 ◼   ► have no meaningful service changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:23 ◼   ► behind it too seriously its series not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25 ◼   ► going to become an order of magnitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:26 ◼   ► better because of this product you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28 ◼   ► it's if they're gonna do that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30 ◼   ► going to do it for the phone's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:31 ◼   ► this and they've had lots of reasons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33 ◼   ► that recently and they kind of haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35 ◼   ► really done enough and this is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37 ◼   ► a product that's that's updated maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► every three years we know hardware-wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41 ◼   ► you two or three years like the maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43 ◼   ► like basically on like an apple TV kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:46 ◼   ► of schedule where Amazon Google we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:49 ◼   ► operate in there like every year or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50 ◼   ► more often amazon is relentless every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52 ◼   ► every 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53 ◼   ► yeah getting an apple TV that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:56 ◼   ► example of a home device that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:59 ◼   ► talk to granted they talked to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00 ◼   ► remote and not the device and the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► are that originally were supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04 ◼   ► talk to the apple TV but the remote came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05 ◼   ► with better sound which kind of makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► sense you've got other motor anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09 ◼   ► experience of speaking to your apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:12 ◼   ► this is exactly what i was saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14 ◼   ► the phone trees there's a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:15 ◼   ► constrained vocabulary mostly you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18 ◼   ► you know you're mostly you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:19 ◼   ► about video that you want to watch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20 ◼   ► mean the it's a little bit broader than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22 ◼   ► that but they want to constrain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23 ◼   ► they could say look we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25 ◼   ► understand everything in the world we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27 ◼   ► have a limited problem domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► let's use our machine learning and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31 ◼   ► idea that we think they're gonna watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32 ◼   ► video integrated it's still hard problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34 ◼   ► right and try to figure out what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37 ◼   ► mean and if you ever spoken to the motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5317">TS</a>]

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01:28:42 ◼   ► something reasonable to it you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5322">TS</a>]

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01:29:58 ◼   ► in pretty short order does the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5398">TS</a>]

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01:30:06 ◼   ► that's why people are impressed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5406">TS</a>]

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01:30:17 ◼   ► does what you ask a timely fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5417">TS</a>]

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01:30:26 ◼   ► or whatever branding ever want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5426">TS</a>]

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01:30:52 ◼   ► had a very long time to make Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54 ◼   ► reliable and better and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:57 ◼   ► improved over time but just not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5457">TS</a>]

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01:31:06 ◼   ► different answers or 1 will fail and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08 ◼   ► next table succeed or like it it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5468">TS</a>]

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01:31:12 ◼   ► that happens to you with the echo I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► know I don't use it like constantly all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► day every day but I use it I I tell it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20 ◼   ► something every day usually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22 ◼   ► controlling lights around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:23 ◼   ► every night when I go to bed I tell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25 ◼   ► turn off everything like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27 ◼   ► usually stuff like that occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:28 ◼   ► music wear timers to use of travel time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5488">TS</a>]

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01:31:36 ◼   ► we've had one time where it returned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:39 ◼   ► some kind of like server error response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5499">TS</a>]

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01:31:42 ◼   ► out right now or something like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44 ◼   ► time that happened in months of using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46 ◼   ► with Syria that happens like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:49 ◼   ► fourth or fifth time for if you use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5509">TS</a>]

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01:31:56 ◼   ► the market playing out in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58 ◼   ► likely way already in my head you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5518">TS</a>]

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01:32:01 ◼   ► enter it with you again some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► like but too infrequently updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06 ◼   ► probably too expensive and maybe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08 ◼   ► Johnny I be designing a product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10 ◼   ► won't be very competitive in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12 ◼   ► marketplace for things like capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:14 ◼   ► price integrations and they'll have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:17 ◼   ► backed by series service which it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19 ◼   ► be consistent enough it won't be solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5539">TS</a>]

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01:32:23 ◼   ► have google making there's selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5543">TS</a>]

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01:32:28 ◼   ► most amazing AI behind the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► service behind it but there gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33 ◼   ► major problems getting it in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35 ◼   ► getting solar retail basically getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► it really into people's hands there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:38 ◼   ► gonna have major problems promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:40 ◼   ► promoting and selling and supporting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5560">TS</a>]

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01:32:58 ◼   ► have a huge head start with developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5578">TS</a>]

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01:33:04 ◼   ► own this space and Google's get google i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5584">TS</a>]

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01:33:09 ◼   ► will consider the best product but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5589">TS</a>]

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01:33:37 ◼   ► than AI which is ridiculous for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5617">TS</a>]

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01:33:53 ◼   ► phone to read me what the text messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5633">TS</a>]

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01:34:18 ◼   ► this conversation with the phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5658">TS</a>]

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01:34:31 ◼   ► trying to use it to add items to list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5671">TS</a>]

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01:34:35 ◼   ► impossible because confused about which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:36 ◼   ► lists and trying to add to or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:37 ◼   ► wants to create a list by that name it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39 ◼   ► like all got you don't understand me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41 ◼   ► do not understand me like just a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43 ◼   ► would get this and it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45 ◼   ► complicated to limited domain I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:46 ◼   ► telling you about reminders in the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:48 ◼   ► items and don't ask me to create a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50 ◼   ► i wanted to say no no no no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:53 ◼   ► misunderstand me the first time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:54 ◼   ► forget i'm not trying to create a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55 ◼   ► take that thing in and put a reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:57 ◼   ► for it because anyway it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5697">TS</a>]

01:34:59 ◼   ► frustrating and it makes me not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01 ◼   ► use it for things that it can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:03 ◼   ► already do because i know that if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05 ◼   ► don't know how to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06 ◼   ► there's no way i can have a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► with it and get it done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09 ◼   ► aquarius i think google is at the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11 ◼   ► now where as violet you know invest case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14 ◼   ► with this google home thing I could ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17 ◼   ► you to do something i'm hoping and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19 ◼   ► it not understand what i mean but how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21 ◼   ► work out through a back-and-forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23 ◼   ► eventually come to an understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25 ◼   ► about what I want to happen where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27 ◼   ► that's like the next smaller step again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29 ◼   ► limited vocabulary simpler things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31 ◼   ► you can do but just limited context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► awareness to understand that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35 ◼   ► trying to accomplish a goal here and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:38 ◼   ► come closer to making it happen without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40 ◼   ► requiring the user to know things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:43 ◼   ► that's just one more tiny baby step in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45 ◼   ► making something that I can do with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:48 ◼   ► fingers happen across the room with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50 ◼   ► voice and we're not asking you to be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52 ◼   ► pal or to be intelligent or any way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:55 ◼   ► to really do anything useful other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57 ◼   ► let me do something i could do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► remote without a remote control but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01 ◼   ► that step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:02 ◼   ► no one has really gotten they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04 ◼   ► Amazon Google and Apple and I have hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07 ◼   ► the google will be the first one to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:08 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:08 ◼   ► thanks for the responses this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:11 ◼   ► backblaze casper and betterment we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13 ◼   ► see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15 ◼   ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:20 ◼   ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:23 ◼   ► death was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:27 ◼   ► John research Marco and Casey would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:33 ◼   ► because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:36 ◼   ► accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:37 ◼   ► you can find the show know the day EP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:41 ◼   ► that and it for twitter follow them is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:50 ◼   ► yl ISS that's Casey list and a co-pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:56 ◼   ► rm20 Marco Arment and our AC Syracuse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5816">TS</a>]

01:37:15 ◼   ► at work I have to think they're 1080 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:20 ◼   ► monitors their lenovo monitors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22 ◼   ► really super shitty I have been begging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:25 ◼   ► for at least one 4k monitor finally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:30 ◼   ► have won the fight the head of IT has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► said all right we will get you the dell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36 ◼   ► 24 something something something 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38 ◼   ► monitor i forget the exact model name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40 ◼   ► but basically this is the monitor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42 ◼   ► all the mac users had all the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44 ◼   ► notebook users have said this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:45 ◼   ► to get if you want 4k and the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:48 ◼   ► dell is the one you want to get if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:49 ◼   ► want 5k the 5k ones $1,500 the 4k was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:53 ◼   ► like four hundred dollars so we get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55 ◼   ► in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:55 ◼   ► speaking of amazon and things we get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► today I take down my to Lenovo's to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:01 ◼   ► this at my desk I'm happy as a pig in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► shit i turn it on and it turns on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:06 ◼   ► turned right back off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:07 ◼   ► hmm so i unplug it plug it back in turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:11 ◼   ► it on turns out turns right back off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► it was DOA sadness so much sadness so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:16 ◼   ► that is also getting return to amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:17 ◼   ► although not by me because i didn't pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:19 ◼   ► for it but but we do have an LG g5 a 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:23 ◼   ► monitor that's 27 inches that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25 ◼   ► it's too big for the DPI that it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:28 ◼   ► it's still super nice and by the way did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30 ◼   ► you guys know that you can only get a 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:34 ◼   ► hurt refresh rate on an hdmi cable off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36 ◼   ► him a couple of laptop off at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► resolution or just the 4k resolution at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41 ◼   ► 4k 4k and so how'd you get the higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:44 ◼   ► ones is it just like through-and-through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:45 ◼   ► Thunderbolt /j displayport mne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48 ◼   ► displayport displayport ok don't connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50 ◼   ► connect monitors to computer with hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52 ◼   ► that's the wrong tool for the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54 ◼   ► yeah just feels wrong so why did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56 ◼   ► world know why I'm not mad about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58 ◼   ► but out of curiosity why do you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:00 ◼   ► that's the TMS for TV standard it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:03 ◼   ► monitor think that the connector is big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05 ◼   ► its made-for-television resolutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08 ◼   ► where's computers you always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:09 ◼   ► have a higher resolution that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10 ◼   ► possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:11 ◼   ► it's just not the right tool and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:14 ◼   ► know and refresh rates just got here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:15 ◼   ► like television it does not come in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:18 ◼   ► 220 yards or even 60 from the most cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:20 ◼   ► so yeah not if you have an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:24 ◼   ► don't use it but i have the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:26 ◼   ► have a connect hdmi is my gaming monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:28 ◼   ► that's what the the PlayStation puts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:29 ◼   ► and saw my mother takes that in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31 ◼   ► it's kind of like a little miniature TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:32 ◼   ► and playing with it that's fair right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► side no idea that was the thing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36 ◼   ► today when we reconnected this LG which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:39 ◼   ► is a very nice bond Drive really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:40 ◼   ► like it again I think it's a few inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:43 ◼   ► too big but I i like it all in all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► actually we're ordering a like 22 or 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:49 ◼   ► inch 4k equivalent LG monitor to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:52 ◼   ► the DOA del-one you know for love only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:55 ◼   ► apple had an external monitor and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:58 ◼   ► only that would be amazing but now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► anyway so I see idea i had no idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:04 ◼   ► you couldn't get 60 Hertz off hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:06 ◼   ► coming off a mac laptop with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:07 ◼   ► hdmi standards you can again your timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:10 ◼   ► here is terrible it is very likely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:13 ◼   ► mean you know obviously don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:15 ◼   ► believe it til we see it but i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:17 ◼   ► it is it is at least moderately likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19 ◼   ► that we're gonna have new laptops with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:22 ◼   ► the new monitor but in the month that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24 ◼   ► being said you probably can't drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26 ◼   ► with your current laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28 ◼   ► well yeah you can if it has you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:30 ◼   ► a graphics card on the inside yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:33 ◼   ► mean we'll get that will get that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:34 ◼   ► at that must be hard i'm alright are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:37 ◼   ► really expecting a monitor like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39 ◼   ► gonna have that my dentist hopes i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► likejust feelings to forget laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:42 ◼   ► please like that's it i would guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:45 ◼   ► the 5k monitor comes with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► laptops i don't think they're gonna wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:49 ◼   ► for the mac pro if there really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:52 ◼   ► five-game monitor without the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:53 ◼   ► products like I guess you can hook it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55 ◼   ► to your laptop getting Apple gives a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:58 ◼   ► shit what the mac pro anymore i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6058">TS</a>]

01:40:59 ◼   ► it's very clearly don't right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:01 ◼   ► come on so it's just so absurd so absurd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:04 ◼   ► i am not particularly convinced that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06 ◼   ► will get a an external monitor this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08 ◼   ► month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:09 ◼   ► however if we do get it i absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:12 ◼   ► agree with Marco that it will come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:13 ◼   ► the laptops in the mac pro will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:15 ◼   ► fart in the wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:16 ◼   ► I know I'm just saying is it is so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:19 ◼   ► so weird I mean I guess they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:22 ◼   ► the GPU and it's like Oh your wimpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:23 ◼   ► laptop can't drive this mighty monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:25 ◼   ► but it's got a GPU in it so here's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27 ◼   ► solution i mean it's it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29 ◼   ► of a hack but I don't think it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:30 ◼   ► to target the laptop as the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32 ◼   ► consumer for this monitor because nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:34 ◼   ► buys mac pros and when those that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► it's weird to have such a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38 ◼   ► it monitors a higher listen to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40 ◼   ► laptop like I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:43 ◼   ► why you say that because most people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45 ◼   ► like I haven't used a desktop computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47 ◼   ► work since 2008 dish 7-inch something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:52 ◼   ► like that right but do you need a 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54 ◼   ► monitor right is it's so like a 4k yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57 ◼   ► by all means like that's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► standard fancy monitor for your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00 ◼   ► laptop and and the big thing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02 ◼   ► office anyways multiple monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:03 ◼   ► multiple smaller monitors right but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► one big massive one especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09 ◼   ► this this monitor is probably cost more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:11 ◼   ► than any other laptops the base price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13 ◼   ► hanging overhead is the most expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:14 ◼   ► thing in your desk is not the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16 ◼   ► but the display it just seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:17 ◼   ► display made for the highest of the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:20 ◼   ► end the most expensive the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:22 ◼   ► single screen intelligence to slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24 ◼   ► smaller screens and that all says mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:27 ◼   ► pro to me but I'm old what I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:29 ◼   ► what you're not realizing is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:32 ◼   ► my entire company nobody has a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34 ◼   ► everyone has laptops either Lenovo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36 ◼   ► know everyone's lap tops of my work too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► I'm the only does not accept you company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40 ◼   ► yeah i think it was great my work was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:43 ◼   ► asking me about on another some some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:45 ◼   ► their terrible spyware of stuff was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:48 ◼   ► correctly reporting back or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:49 ◼   ► like to we have records that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:53 ◼   ► mac mini with this serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:56 ◼   ► do you happen to have that like em don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:59 ◼   ► have a mac mini bottle check the serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:02 ◼   ► number and it was a serial number of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:03 ◼   ► gigantic cheese grater but so apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05 ◼   ► someone has a catalog this and to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07 ◼   ► the little stickers on a reverend wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:08 ◼   ► down my serial number and decided this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:11 ◼   ► thing size of refrigerators a mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► nice they do that's what I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16 ◼   ► what it is don't even know what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:17 ◼   ► no its a Mac is going to join Apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:19 ◼   ► on the side of it but they have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:20 ◼   ► what the hell does everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:21 ◼   ► laptops so the reason that this became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:25 ◼   ► relevant and the reason I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► sell this to the IT department was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28 ◼   ► because on these 1080 monitors if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:32 ◼   ► try to use the iPhone simulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:34 ◼   ► full-size because it's all pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:37 ◼   ► Dumbledore whatever the term is no its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:38 ◼   ► retina it i can see like half of it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:41 ◼   ► screen actually sent the IT guy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:43 ◼   ► screenshot admittedly was a plus like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:45 ◼   ► success plus simulator and I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:48 ◼   ► like the dock on my 1080 monitor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► was about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:52 ◼   ► gonna run a non native res like the life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:54 ◼   ► on success users so I mean that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56 ◼   ► used to do or well still do right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58 ◼   ► I would run it at like half size or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:01 ◼   ► whatever but then what ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:02 ◼   ► happening was I especially when doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04 ◼   ► you I work it was a total pain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:05 ◼   ► butt because I would like drop the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:08 ◼   ► single pixel border between tableview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:10 ◼   ► cells or things along those lines and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:13 ◼   ► I'm not even seeing like a terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:14 ◼   ► accurate representation of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:16 ◼   ► and so that's why i said hey listen I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18 ◼   ► really like to get a retina external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20 ◼   ► monitor and eventually my complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:24 ◼   ► and moaning finally got hurt / he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26 ◼   ► want to hear it anymore and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:29 ◼   ► what they ordered this dell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:30 ◼   ► unfortunately the thing was DOA but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33 ◼   ► I mean I I'm I i would love to have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► a couple of 22 24 inch 4k monitors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:41 ◼   ► that's what i have now is is a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:42 ◼   ► 1080 monitors but that's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:45 ◼   ► resolution these days you have multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► monitor problems at your office is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:50 ◼   ► like one person in the office who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:54 ◼   ► like six monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:55 ◼   ► no but one of the reasons that i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:58 ◼   ► complain and moan a lot to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00 ◼   ► monitor was because the IT dude knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:03 ◼   ► full well that once i get this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► hotness people will start smelling blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08 ◼   ► in the water and everyone will start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:10 ◼   ► saying well I want that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12 ◼   ► from his perspective it makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14 ◼   ► sense that he needs to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:15 ◼   ► justify this added expenditure over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:17 ◼   ► cost of a 1080p monitor and so now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:21 ◼   ► going to have these people coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:22 ◼   ► the woodwork saying oh me too me too me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:23 ◼   ► too and in reality the only people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:27 ◼   ► really makes sense for is designers / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:29 ◼   ► possibly most likely and iOS developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:32 ◼   ► and I was actually talking to one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:33 ◼   ► Android developers and about all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35 ◼   ► and he was like yeah I have no need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:36 ◼   ► that whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► I'd like it but i have no need for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39 ◼   ► crappy 17-inch non-retina dell monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:42 ◼   ► kind of litter our hallways you stepping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44 ◼   ► on like leaves in the fall just walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46 ◼   ► around the office it's not some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48 ◼   ► who like it's kind of like people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50 ◼   ► had you know materials were scarce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52 ◼   ► during the Depression so they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:53 ◼   ► older and they just always save their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55 ◼   ► cans or whatever right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► these people must have lived through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► monitor drought and so now they're 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:02 ◼   ► and they just they just scooped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:04 ◼   ► really all the crappy 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:05 ◼   ► angel monitors and put them all on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:08 ◼   ► desk so I think the biggest one I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:10 ◼   ► seen as someone who has an arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12 ◼   ► 6i think it's 3 over 3 i'm doing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► really you know anyway I crazy monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:18 ◼   ► arms with sit there and these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20 ◼   ► six of the worst monitors you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:21 ◼   ► seen right things are not good monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23 ◼   ► is not a good viewing angle but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:25 ◼   ► are six of them i think someone might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:26 ◼   ► have broken the record before and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:28 ◼   ► them into more has arranged but the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:29 ◼   ► of the most impressive because I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► curves around and this that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33 ◼   ► that holds the six monitors and credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35 ◼   ► is incredibly impressive looking i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37 ◼   ► really i think it is three high that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:39 ◼   ► why it looks like this taller but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:41 ◼   ► would like that's for a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6401">TS</a>]

01:46:43 ◼   ► you see in the movies who would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:45 ◼   ► want to look at 67 inch dell monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47 ◼   ► craning your neck around and try like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49 ◼   ► especially since all these people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:51 ◼   ► light text on a dark background in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:52 ◼   ► terminal windows with with a non IPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:55 ◼   ► display with those viewing angles you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:58 ◼   ► can't read anything on those and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6418">TS</a>]

01:46:59 ◼   ► know like just like get a stool and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:02 ◼   ► know get head onto the upper left corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:04 ◼   ► monitor to see any beyond anyway those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:07 ◼   ► be like are punishing themselves like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:08 ◼   ► it's reverse kinda like monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10 ◼   ► monitors everywhere I have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► monitors i have to multiply three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13 ◼   ► monitors on a power user i have four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:14 ◼   ► monitors why you know it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16 ◼   ► it's an art crazy arms race doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18 ◼   ► any sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:19 ◼   ► alright here i am sitting with my single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:21 ◼   ► very small non-retina monitor but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:24 ◼   ► still think it looks better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6444">TS</a>]

01:47:25 ◼   ► other things they just need a JP set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:28 ◼   ► and we'll be good to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:29 ◼   ► that's a reference oh and speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:32 ◼   ► work hardware I've now broken my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:35 ◼   ► keyboard never keeping track this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37 ◼   ► 2009 macro i use the keyboard they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:40 ◼   ► within which I like it's the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► keyboard that I use at home as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43 ◼   ► the apple into extended keyboard i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:44 ◼   ► it because it has low key press effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:49 ◼   ► required is good for my RSI I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:51 ◼   ► the half-size function keys but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:53 ◼   ► real arrow keys anyway I i like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:55 ◼   ► keyboard I broke one of them three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:58 ◼   ► four years into it got a new replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:01 ◼   ► today deaky stopped working which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:03 ◼   ► surprisingly commonly used key so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:05 ◼   ► half the day today I was copying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:07 ◼   ► pasting a d2l sir I'm right I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTp9PYw/6487">TS</a>]

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