327: The Rickies (Early 2021)
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Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 327, "The Rickies Early 2021."
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I'm your host, Steven Hackett, and I am joined by my friend, Mr. Myke Hurley.
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Happy New Year, everybody!
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Happy New Year!
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I am so excited for today's episode, because we get to read the rules again.
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We're gonna read the rules. I'm also gonna thank our sponsors because I got distracted by the title.
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This episode is made possible by Squarespace, Smile, and Pingdom.
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And we're also joined by Mr. Federico Vatici.
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Hey babe, how are you?
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Hey man. Wow, that's nice.
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Happy new year.
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If you would like to know why that just happened, you should become a connected pro member
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by going to connected pro- what's the URL? I never remember it.
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Oh my god, I never remember it.
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relay.fm/connected/join
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No, that's not so catchy, but it's easy to remember. You can't remember the other one.
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I think it's connectedpro.co
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Wait, why is it .co?
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Because Steven liked it.
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Steven liked it and now no one can remember it.
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Connectedpro.co
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Does it rhyme though?
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Like does it?
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Pro.co? It's not a rhyme.
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Connectedpro.co
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That's not a rhyme. If you go to... Wait, which one is it? Is it connectedpro.co or
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is it getconnected? It is? No, there's no get. Why do you keep saying this? No, because
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I have get domains. getconnectedpro.com also works. Yeah. Oh my god. Well, it will work.
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I haven't directed them to the new address yet. It's like we don't want people to give
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us money. So, Steven, can you just do that again? Tell people very clearly. Where can
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they get the members only pre and post show? Well I would go... Oh don't do it. No no it's not an opinion.
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Not this terrible domain that you keep using the fun catchy ones.
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connectedpro.co. And have you forwarded that to the correct place? It currently
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directs to the monthly plan. Okay but that's not where you want it to go is it?
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No I want it to go to relay.fm/connected/join. Right. But I haven't set
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that up yet. What I will say though is if you go to getconnectedpro.co you
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will go to the right place because I manage that one. getconnectedpro.co
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yes it does very very nice. No that goes to the silver plan too, the monthly plan.
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Well you've got to wait for DNS propagation you know like I can't be in
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control of everything here. DNS is terrible. Mm-hmm takes time but anyway if
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you want to know why we're calling Steven Babe now well become a member.
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I think we just gotta say something, don't we?
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Well, we can't pretend that we live out of time.
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So, we're recording this on Thursday, January 7th, we're a day-
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Just pure coincidence that we moved the show by a day, which is awesome.
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Somebody had a holiday something, or family, I don't know.
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I don't remember why we moved things.
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Anyways, we're a day later than normal-
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I think Federico was partying.
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Yesterday, January 6th, saw just a terrible display here in the United States.
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I mean, I speak for, I think, almost everybody.
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I basically just stopped working after lunch and watched the news until I couldn't take
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it anymore, and my wife said, "You have to stop doomscrolling and go to bed."
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I mean, I don't know what to say.
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It's really infuriating and heartbreaking at the same time that people have been led
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to believe the things they believe about the way our country works.
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And I know we have friends and listeners, even members in the Relay Discord who live
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Thankfully, everyone is safe, but it was a terrible thing to witness to think that this
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sort of thing can happen in the US was a little shocking.
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Eye-opening.
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Shocking, but not surprising, if that makes sense.
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But we have a bunch of tech stuff to talk about.
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We got the RICCIs, so we can move on.
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The show must go on.
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Wait, what did you say?
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I said, "The show must go on."
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The show must go on.
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Have you ever heard this phrase before?
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Is this new to you?
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The show must...
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What a great phrase.
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Did you come up with that?
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That's great.
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Man, you should put that on a bumper sticker.
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I'm gonna put it on a t-shirt or something.
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That'll be the new Connected t-shirt.
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The show must go on?
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The show must go on.
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It has a Capitol building.
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The show must go on, babe.
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Let's start follow-up with Dr. Drang.
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It's a good place to start follow-up.
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So we have spoken about needing to recalculate the Hackett number, which is the number of
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computers in my household against the number of people.
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That's a fixed number at 20.6, as we described in a recent episode.
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But Dr. Drang, I think anytime we talk about math, which is going to happen later, so I'm
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going to apologize to Drang in advance that we have more math talk coming later, but he
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recommended that future calculations of the collection should be reported in terms of
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the Hackett ratio.
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So it's the computers per household member then divided by the Hackett number.
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And I think that...
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I'm a little bit confused.
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I'm not going to lie.
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I mean, he's...
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I've already lost...
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He's an engineer.
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Yeah, I read Drang's tweet and I was like, "Yeah, I don't understand that."
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- Frank, send us a link to the blog post
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telling us young boys how math works.
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- Yeah, no, I don't get it.
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So what is it like, because the Hackett number's fixed,
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if we now wanna work out something by the Hackett number,
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it now needs its own name.
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So the Hackett ratio is everybody's own number.
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- So the Hackett ratio would be the current Hackett number,
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if you will, so the current number of computers
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divided by the number of people in the house,
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and that, the relationship between that and the original number.
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So say, I don't know what the number is because I haven't done this yet.
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I'm not sure that Babe understands this either.
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No, no, no, no.
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I just wanted an explanation and it's getting worse.
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In this moment you can sell me anything, I'm not following.
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I will buy literally everything you're saying, Babe.
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I have no idea.
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I'll figure the new number, and let's say the new number is 30.6.
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What is the number?
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The number being the number of computers in the household into divided by the number of people in the household. Okay, so
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Okay, okay. Okay. Yes. This is the thing that we invented. Yes, right. So let's say the new one is 30.6
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Yes, so the Hackett ratio would describe the relationship between the new number and the constant. Wait, what is a constant?
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The constant is 20.6 the original Hackett number
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So what you would get at the end of this is I am you know one point two times
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More in trouble than I was originally because I've got that many more computers and that's the Hackett ratio. Yes
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But if I calculate it is it a Hackett ratio or is it only a Hackett ratio if it's you? I
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Mean any well, how would you do it? I mean you got to come over here and count everything
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No, but like if I did my own calculation of what is mine? Yeah
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Yeah, you would be like you would have a negative ratio.
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You don't know, but that's the thing, right?
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So what we're seeing now is the Hackett number, you don't calculate your own Hackett number
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because there's only one Hackett number.
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You calculate your own Hackett ratio, which is figured out by multiplying or dividing
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by the Hackett number.
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We got there then.
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Wait, but who asked for the Hackett ratio?
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I think we accidentally described it on the show and then Drang tried to clarify it, but
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clearly our lack of...
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I think we kept getting confused about how to calculate what the Hackett number was because
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we kept calling it Hackett number.
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Up next, AirPods Max.
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I retarded mine.
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You did do it.
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Yep, they're gone.
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You give them back.
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Yeah, they sounded great.
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I loved the way they sounded, but they were just too heavy.
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Interesting. Was that the reason?
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Yes. I find mine comfortable.
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I use them every day for multiple hours.
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I have one complaint, which is the battery life ain't that great.
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Really? Yeah.
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I feel like I'm charging them every day or so.
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You don't have that with my AirPods.
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And I guess the reason is the AirPods Max battery, I guess, is less
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than the other AirPods because it doesn't have a battery case to recharge them again,
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How many, for how long do you wear them each day?
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Multiple hours.
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Like two or six or seven, like what is multiple?
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Let's say four or five.
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I have noticed though as well, like I really have noticed that under certain circumstances
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and I don't know what they are, the battery is draining faster at certain times.
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I don't know if maybe I'm putting them down in such a way that the sensors are still triggering
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or something, like if I don't put them in their very fancy case.
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But like I know that there was one day last week where I charged them the night before
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and then used them, I put them down on my desk when I was done for the day and the next
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day they were completely dead.
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So I think I'm having some kind of battery discharging issue in certain circumstances.
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So I haven't done anything scientific but basically the thing is you know how
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you feel like you don't really notice when you charge your AirPods right? It's
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just like you don't think about it you just charge them every now and then and
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it's fine. I'm feeling like I'm having to charge my AirPods Max more intentionally
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than my regular AirPods. It's almost as if the case they designed is a total
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failure. Do I bet the case... Almost. Even if the case was designed well it wouldn't
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helped I don't know if it too much because like I think the difference is
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like I think it's the charging nature of the case yeah just make a giant case
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with a huge battery in it that can charge yeah because Apple says you're
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supposed to get 20 hours so clearly something is is up yeah I don't know I
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don't know what to do I don't know what the deal is I'd love to know if other
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people are having this or if it's just something that you know maybe we can
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rule out you doing something weird that you're not aware of I think that they
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could just there's like a few things that could be going on right well like
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sometimes I could use my AirPods and then just put the case on charge like
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and I'm not really thinking about it like you can't do that with the AirPods
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Max right it's like you're either using them or you're charging them you can't
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charge them and use them really and like a convenient way where with the regular
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AirPods I can use the AirPods and I'm draining their battery while its case is
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getting a charge. So you know like I think that that also maybe reduces the
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amount of times that I notice the AirPods themselves as reducing as like
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lowering their battery which is just not the case with the Max it's like it's
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more of a traditional tech product then right where like charging it kind of is
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a thing that you do when you're not using it or like you can do it at the
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same time but it's not seamless where I think with the regular AirPods with their
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charging case is you can very easily just leave the case somewhere charging
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especially if you use wireless charging and so I just think that there's maybe a
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situation where like the product is different and I'm just noticing it more
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because it's close enough to my regular AirPods that it just I can see it as a
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place of comparison. Nevertheless I love them oh my god the the noise cancelling
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It's so good. So, so good. I am continually impressed by these headphones and I enjoy
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using them very much.
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What about you Federico? Any additional thoughts a few weeks in?
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I've been using them not as frequently as mic I think. I mostly try to stay offline
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for the past few weeks and therefore using my Sony Walkman and my wired Sony headphones.
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So I haven't really used them multiple hours each day but I like them. I confirm my comment from
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a few episodes back, these are going to be my main wireless headphones. Like I used them today again
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when I was trying to get some work done. I like them, they're not as, you know, they don't sound
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nearly as good as my other wired headphones, but in terms of wireless headphones, they're the best
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ones that I have. So I really like them, the noise cancellation is good, Siri I don't particularly
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care about, and the digital crown works. And the case is stupid, but I'm waiting for the
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Waterfield Designs case to arrive at some point for the next few days, I think. So yeah, I like them.
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Steven, have you considered the fact that maybe it's not the AirPods Max that are too heavy,
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but that in your old age it is your neck that doesn't offer enough support anymore?
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Yeah, pencil neck.
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That was my only question for you.
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Wow. I hope that's not the case.
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Well, you know, some food for thought for you over the next few days.
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Yeah, my brittle bones, can't take the weight.
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No, I think I'm just... I think I'm just overly sensitive to head pressure.
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I feel like I'm sensitive to headphones or anything that are heavy, or like a hat that's too tight,
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or if I've got to come a hair back in a bandana or something, like if it's too tight. I feel very
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sensitive to those things, so I may just be... I may just be too weak for my head to be squeezed.
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Well, I hope that's not the case.
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Real quick before we move on to our topics, I did just want to point people to episode
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11 of Flashback, my show with Quinn Nelson.
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It is back for season two.
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This is the show where we talk about failed tech products and this season we're looking
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at them through the lens of kind of where those companies or markets are now.
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So episode 11 is about the Nexus Q which is this failed Google media streamer, kind of
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like the Chromecast before the Chromecast but it never actually went on
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sale and they took a bunch of pre-orders and had to give people their money back
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it was really bad. Let's talk about that and then set top boxes it was a lot of fun.
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I am looking forward to listen to it I have not yet please forgive me but I am
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pleased the show is back. As a little teaser Quinn is listening to connected
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right now Quinn I'm gonna tell people what we're doing in episode 12 we're
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gonna talk about the Amazon Fire phone and then we're going oh then we're going
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We're going to draft weird Amazon products.
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Episode 12 will be fun.
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Like products that you found on Amazon or made by Amazon?
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Weird products made by Amazon.
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So you know that they make a microwave with the Echo Assistant built in.
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Why do you do that?
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Go check it out.
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Just before we begin the Ricky's today, I wanted to just know, I feel like that there
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is a constant theme on this show of charging solutions and I saw today that Anker have
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released their MagSafe charging stuff. Well at least they've announced that they're going
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to release it which is kind of weird but it's coming. They've got two products. One is a
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$22 MagSafe charging puck which is capped at 7.5 watts so it can't do any faster charging
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than that. And it has a really weird chunky USB connector. So I invite you all to look
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at the link in the show notes to see this. So are you guys looking at this image right
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now? Yeah. Why is it so big? So that's the USB-C connector. It makes it look like it's
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a USB mini or something. And it's apparently because this is pretty much just a standard
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Qi charger it's not doing anything special because it seems like there's
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just a little bit of secret sauce as they call it in Apple's charging solution
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for MagSafe so to make it super thin and to make it all fit correctly which
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basically all that's in the little disk part the puck part is the coils and a
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lot of the like technology stuff that's required to make one of these Qi
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chargers work is housed inside of the USB C connector instead. Interesting
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choice? Well I mean what it does is it allows for it to be still a thin and
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small just circular connector right you can still connect by magnets and get all
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of the benefit that you get from MagSafe and really it's like whilst that looks
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weird it's gonna be plugged somewhere right like you're not gonna deal with it
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and it's a 1.5 meter cable so it's half a meter longer than Apple's cable which
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product which is like a stand, what do they call it? The PowerWave MagSafe charging stand.
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So it's like a MagSafe charger suspended, kind of like how the screen on the Magic Keyboard
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for the iPad Pro is suspended, it's not particularly like that but you get what I'm saying. You
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to can also be tilted which is kind of nice.
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and charge your iPhone at the same time.
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This looks super cool and it's $36.
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So is it or is it not magsafe?
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It is magsafe yes.
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But it's not but it's Anker's magsafe right?
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I don't think that they're MFI certified or whatever.
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So the first one, the Verge article says "Here's why Anker's MagSafe style charger has a gigantic
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It's because it's not actually MagSafe."
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So I'm very confused.
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It's not Apple's MagSafe.
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It's working like a MagSafe charger.
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It's got magnets in it, it's doing Qi charging and whatever, but it seems like that they've
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not gone through whatever you have to go through to get that official "here you go" from Apple.
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Oh, the MagSafe like brand? Okay, okay, got it. Right, like it's not, I don't know, like
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it's called MFI certified or whatever, they've not done that. They've just reverse engineered
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it. It's a Qi charger with magnets in it. Got it. Okay. Right, which is also why it
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doesn't get the faster speed. So it's like quote unquote MagSafe. Yeah, it's magnetically
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safe charging is what they should call it and then we'll all know what it means. But
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I think it's cool. I think it's cool that these products do exist because it's different price points and it's different use cases.
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And so I'm into it. I'm going to keep my eye on the the sand one.
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I think that looks like a pretty cool product.
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You could charge your day phone on the top and the night phone at the bottom.
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Because it's laying down. You have a little blanket for him.
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Good night phone.
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The annual Chairman Twitter account is up for grabs.
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- Please read the Bill of Rickeys.
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- The Bill of Rickeys.
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The winner who should be called keynote chairman
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from the previous Ricky's--
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- Daniel Chairman, right?
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- Look at the bullet point, I'm getting there.
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Oh okay, okay, okay.
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What are those Corky note chairmen, are they in this instance?
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They're called annual chairmen.
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AMEND THE RULES!
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It's time to amend the rules.
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It's right there.
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The Bill of Rickeys.
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Uninterrupted by Myke Hurley.
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But it's wrong though!
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No it's not!
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So what we need to do...
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It should just be like the winner.
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We did it shouldn't say who should be the keynote chairman.
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Well, we need, we need.
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So one thing I've noticed is we have a problem.
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We need to identify that there's actually two different types of Rickies.
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There's annual Rickies.
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There's keynote Rickies.
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So, um, maybe we just start there.
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So there are two types.
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The rules are being rewritten again, live on the show.
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You're the one who interrupted.
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We have a lot of stuff to talk about, but, Oh, we got to take care of this for Myke.
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All you have to do is just remove who should be called keynote champion from the first sentence.
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No, because if we're gonna remove anything we should make it clear.
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Annual and...
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Annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's. Okay.
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Because I guess this also leaves room for other types of Ricky.
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Because we did do the audio predictions once.
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The soundies is what we called those I think.
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Do you remember we did a set of audio-based predictions?
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It was just about AirPods and HeadPods and all that stuff?
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Yeah, it was a one-off thing.
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But I like leaving the door open for things like that.
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There was just so many rumors and things going on at that time
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that we ended up just making a whole separate set of Ricky's
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like halfway through the middle of a year or something.
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This is getting longer.
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I really feel bad for the listener who created the...
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the beautiful Bill of Rickeys document,
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'cause every single time they have to change it,
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provided they wanna keep it up to date.
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I would also understand at this point
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if they just told us to jump off a bridge, right?
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Like, we're just done.
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This is totally done.
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We're dealing with our, every whim here.
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And basically at the moment,
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I'm filling time while Steven's writing in the document.
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That's what's happening right now,
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in case you hadn't guessed already.
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- Okay. - I'm just vamping.
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Okay, we have to agree to this change.
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- I know, I'm putting this in front of the committee.
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There are two types of rookies,
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annual rookies and keynote rookies.
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The winner of the annual rookies
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is named the annual chairman and retains the rights
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to the corresponding Twitter account for the full year.
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- Nice. - The keynote rookies winner
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is named the keynote chairman and retains the rights
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to the corresponding Twitter account
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until the next keynote is held.
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Yeah, you did it, you did it.
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I like it. - Mm-hmm, yep.
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like that it's longer too so it takes no no no no I didn't get it I'm not smart
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enough can you can you say that winner of the annual Ricky's is named annual
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chairman and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account for the
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full year I would say this position is awarded every January nice okay just make
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keep making it longer the keynote Ricky's winner is named the keynote
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chairman and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account until the
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next keynote is held. Right. And then we go into the ordering. None of that's changed. Carry on.
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So point one has been invented. Let's go to point two. Annual winners roll over to preserve the
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order. For example, the 2019 annual winner gets to go first for the next annual picks.
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Order of the keynote rookies is based on the previous Apple event. The loser goes last. To
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earn any points everything written down in the prediction document must come
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true. No half points may be awarded in any round and picks cannot be reused. One
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point is awarded for any pick deemed correct in the first two rounds. Two
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points will be awarded for the correct picks in the risky pick round. If your
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risky pick is wrong you will lose a point and the other two hosts must agree
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that your pick is "risky". The scoring window starts, I'm starting to say, for event
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rookies. I would like to point out while you're writing something else, Josh in
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the relay FM members discord has posted their version of the rules which is one
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pick stuff, two grade stuff, three win stuff, which ultimately is all they need
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to be but we're just not those type of people that could live by those three
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simple rules. For event rookies the scoring window starts when the event
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begins and closes when the picks are scored. Should say for keynote rookies
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keynote rookies. The winner of the regular and risky picks must be granted access
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to the annual or event chairman Twitter account and will retain access until
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another winner is named. We also have the flexis so we should say as a point of
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order. The flexi rules are introduced after we did the annual rookies for 2020, so these flexi
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rules don't apply to this set of picks. So I'll read those. We do have the flexis, but there's no
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money on the line. Right, so I will read those as we get there. Yeah, because we don't need those
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until we're set in the 2021 predictions, right? Correct. Yeah, we don't retroactively apply rules,
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Because that would just be silly. We're not savages. As a reminder, Federico is the current
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annual chairman and Steven, that's me, Babe, is the current keynote chairman. Yes you are, babe.
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Twitter handles are on the line. Well, one twitter handle. Federico's twitter handle.
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Twitter handle. I could walk away with both. I would love a day where both of them are on
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on the line at the same time. That would be fun, huh?
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If Apple had a January event, it would be four hours long.
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Oh, it would be forever. It would be great though, right?
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Okay, so let's review the 2020 Rickies. Federico, you went first.
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Just real quick before we start. Just because, you know, reflecting on
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how weird 2020 has been, like just think back to
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just where we were and how things were when we made these picks.
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a different world. It wasn't just like how it normally is, where a year has passed. It's
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just a completely different reality almost at this point. Anyway, please continue.
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Okay, so I went first last year, and my first regular pick was "Apple will name a successor
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to Steve Dowling, former head of public relations at Apple." And there was also a bullet point
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saying either named by Apple officially or is reported by more than one outlet that a
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person has been appointed.
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What I like about this pick is that that secondary bullet was put into place to make it easier
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on you to score it, right? Because I think we said at the time it is incredibly unlikely
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that if they, well at least I think me and Steven felt that it was incredibly unlikely
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that if there was a new head of PR that Apple would like release a press release about it.
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Regardless, I was wrong, because there may be a new head of PR at Apple, but Apple hasn't
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announced anyone, and no outlet has reported on anything, so no change.
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I think the reason I always thought this was a difficult one for you is I don't know, I
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don't recall it being public knowledge who the head of Apple PR was, you know what I
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it was one of these rules like roles that they put on the leadership page or
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whatever like Katie was it Katie cotton before Steve Dowling yes I think Steve
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Dowling used to be on the leadership page really I think he was I think okay
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yeah that's why that's why I had this pick yeah I don't think Katie cotton
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ever was though but she was like right Steve Jobs style PR and she didn't last
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very long under Tim Cook okay well nevertheless I always thought that it
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was risky because it just didn't necessarily feel like a job to me that they would make
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a big song and dance about. But, so yeah, you could be right Federico, right? There
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could be someone who has this job. We just don't know who that is.
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I guess, you know, Steve Dowling, like my, my context for this pick was used to be like
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a very public figure. He was on the leadership page. Um, and, uh, and, and he had like, uh,
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was the internal memo that was published announcing his departure. And I just figured, you know,
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within the next 12 months, there's going to be a public thing where we have a new person
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in charge. And, uh, but, but, but no, that hasn't happened. And, um, yeah, so this is
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not a point for me. And, uh, it's, uh, it's kinda, it's very surprising to me still, but
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also maybe this is one of the, of those things that was delayed by 2020. I don't know. Um,
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Maybe Apple is just content to keep working with multiple heads of PR for different departments.
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I don't know.
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I have no idea what's going on.
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So, no point.
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Yeah, maybe they don't have like a single head of PR.
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Just all of the different product heads or country heads feed into JAWS.
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Yeah, who knows.
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So no point.
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My round one pick was that the 2020 iPhone line will feature at least one 5G phone.
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Stephen, would you like to read your sub points that you insisted were put in the document?
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Stephen is highly skeptical.
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How do you feel about that now?
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I mean, it's, some people say it's real.
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I was super right on this one, huh?
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Yeah, every time he said it was like a tiny dagger through my heart.
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And then I made the joke, this wasn't a prediction, that they would name it the iPhone 11s Pro
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Was that a joke?
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Okay, I don't know if it was. I think it was your actual prediction of the name.
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My pick in the first round was the 13-inch MacBook Pro will gain larger screen. There
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was a lot of talk, there still is a lot of talk about a 14-inch MacBook Pro, but it has
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yet to materialize. It did not materialize in 2020, so I did not get the point.
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So at the end of round one, it's mic one. Federico and I have zero.
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Feels good. Feels good up here. Yeah. Alright Federico, kick off round two.
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Round two, and this just makes me sad, really sad, I said at least one of the
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2020 iPhones will have a higher refresh rate display, parenthesis, promotion. Yeah.
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Yeah. That was wrong. That wasn't a point. Again, we talked about this in October. We
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would have liked to see the promotion display. It was rumored. And then we also got the reports
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saying that Apple was facing difficulties getting it to work. You know, battery life
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concerns. I guess that maybe Apple prioritized 5G in these new phones rather than higher
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refresh rate display. It's in the rumor cycle again for 2021. I saw yesterday, I think,
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or today, I don't remember, saying that Samsung may be one of the suppliers for the higher
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refresh rate display in the iPhone 13 or whatever it's going to be called. But yeah, not in
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2020 so no point for me. I'm still at zero.
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Yeah, it does feel like something that they've got to do at some point. I mean it is it is
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All over the place on high-end Android phones. All right, Michael?
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My second pick was that the iPad Pro line is updated before the iPhone of a hardware feature
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That's not on any current iPhone 2019 or 2020 and I was right
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LIDAR. LIDAR.
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First to the iPad this wasn't the thing that I was I think potentially LIDAR was in contention
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I thought it was gonna be 5G
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5G 5G 5G 5G, but instead I got LIDAR instead so I
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Having won this pick makes me feel less bad about buying that 2020 iPad Pro. I
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Don't have one Federica. You don't have one. Do you know I was the only fool that did it
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I do have a 2020 iPad Pro. Do you? Yeah I do. Sorry that was delayed for your point.
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Thank you, I appreciate it. As of when and why? How? Who? It's a review unit.
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Oh. I will get to write about it at some point eventually before I send it back, but yeah.
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What are you gonna write about? Oh man, you should write a review of it. That would be so funny.
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I honestly have no idea. Here's my review of the 2020 iPad Pro. I mean I guess the fact that I talked about it on
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multiple podcasts maybe constitutes some kind of work about it. You're doing it right now.
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You're doing the work right now. I'm talking about it right now. Would you like to review the 2020 iPad Pro? Yes, here's my review of the 2020 iPad Pro.
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It's got a lighter.
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And a different letter in the chip name.
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That's the tweet.
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That's good.
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That binning.
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It's got the same design, the same storage, the same display of the 2018 iPad Pro.
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At least it fits in the Magic Keyboard case correctly, you know.
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It fits in the Magic Keyboard correctly, so that's a very nice plus.
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I don't see the, you know, the empty slot anymore.
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So that's very aesthetically pleasing, I would say that's a plus, right?
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The LiDAR scanner is not really used for photography as it was on the iPhone.
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You can use it for AR.
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I don't use AR on my iPad Pro, but if you're one of those people, then I guess you'll be
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happy and that's the review.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm done.
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That's a huge weight off my shoulders.
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Thanks guys.
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Stephen, what was your pick?
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My pick is that Apple would launch its own podcast content beyond its existing deal with
00:36:50
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I got at least two.
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Apple News Today and then Zane Lowe's show is being released as a podcast.
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So point for me.
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Yeah, I feel like the Zane Lowe one was correct but could have been questioned.
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The Apple News Today is the one that really just confirmed that you got that point.
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I think is still just a podcast version of his Apple Music show.
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Yeah, it's shovelware. It's just like, we made this content somewhere else,
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let's just stick it into an RSS feed.
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This content is too good to be hidden in Apple Music.
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So we'll put it in podcasts.
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Yeah, but Apple News today is really like, that is Apple's first, like, original podcast content.
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So you did get that one.
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It's good. So at the end of round two, Myke has two points. I have one point.
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Federico has no points. Zero points. How are you feeling about your chances, Federico?
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Um, not very good. You could still win it. I felt better in the past. Am I right? At this point,
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Federico could still win? Technically, yes. Technically, yeah. I could still take it away
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No, I'm not. I'm not gonna redeem myself. In fact, I'm gonna come out of this and be even sadder
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than before. Because technically my reiki was the reiki of passion, I would say of wit, and of hope.
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But not of correctness.
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Yes, in fact this reiki is a perfect reflection of 2020. I said...
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Apple will release at least one new Pro app for iPad that we haven't previously seen on iPad.
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The app can be universal. So my idea was Apple is bringing one of their Pro apps to iPad.
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They're gonna do so with iPadOS 14, was my theory. And maybe there's gonna be an iPhone version as
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well, but primarily they're bringing, I don't know, Xcode or Logic or Final Cut, one of those,
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right? To iPad. And nope, that was not the case. They've done plenty of things for
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iPad in 2020. The pointer, the Magic Keyboard, multi-column, the sidebars, but
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they haven't launched any new Pro application for iPad themselves. So this
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makes me really sad. I continue to believe that Apple should lead by
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example here, and show that it is possible in 2021, at this point, to build
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and support a mature kind of application on iPad, taking advantage of all the
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modern features that the platform offers. But regardless, this pick is incorrect,
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because they didn't do that in 2020. So I stand by my belief, I stand by my Ricky,
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but the rules are the rules and you know I'm trying to keep a more open and
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positive and loving attitude in this game this year so I will happily
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concede that I was wrong. And it's worth noting now at this point Federico is no
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longer the annual chairman because he cannot cannot succeed. I am NOT. I think
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it is also the first time someone has scored a minus two. Really?
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No, minus one. Minus one. Minus one. Minus one. Wasn't there the one that we did on stage
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where we all got the same, or did we all get zero? I think we all got zero. That is still
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a record in and of itself, right? Yeah, be proud of yourself. I am, I am, I really am.
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Whatever it takes to get you through. Right. All right, this one's gonna be tricky.
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read it and then I have some things to say. Okay cool. My pick was the notch on the iPhone
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will get physically smaller in at least one of the 2020 iPhones. So I spent my morning looking
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through Apple's accessory design guidelines. Can I say why this happened? Like I think that
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that because I think people will hear the fact that you did all this work and it won't make
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sense why you even started it.
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Alright, so there was a couple of reasons that I made this pick.
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One was that there could be a change to the screen size.
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Another was that they may just make the notch smaller. And the other was there would be
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a smaller iPhone and therefore would have a smaller notch, right? Right.
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And it is inconclusive
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or had been inconclusive that the mini
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would have a smaller notch if how people say that it did, but we couldn't find any.
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I couldn't find anything that would suggest definitively that was the case.
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So I posited to the group
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that the iPhone 12 has a smaller notch than the iPhone 11.
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Now, I wasn't going to fight this necessarily,
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but there is a truth in that,
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depending on how you look at it.
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Then Steven went away and did some work.
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- Yes, so the Apple Accessory Design Guidelines
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is a giant PDF for people who make cases
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and other things for Apple devices.
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And it has design schematics
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of a bunch of different products.
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And so I went through that PDF this morning.
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There is a link in the show notes
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where I've put together three charts.
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The first one is the width of the notch.
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The second one is the height of the notch.
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These are looking at the safe areas,
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that's what Apple calls them.
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And then the total notch area.
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I will say for the math majors out there,
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my area number doesn't account for radius,
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but it's close enough for our uses.
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- How dare you.
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- I got the wrong degree to figure that out.
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So a couple of interesting things here.
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One, the notch is actually bigger than it was
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in the beginning in width and height.
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Got a little bit bigger.
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- But we're talking in like fractions of a millimeter.
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So visually, it's pretty hard to tell most of these apart.
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The ones that really stand apart are the LCD phones.
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So the iPhone XR and the iPhone 11
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both had substantially larger notches
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than their OLED counterparts, right?
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So for instance, the iPhone XR notch
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is 35.96 millimeters wide,
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and the XS is 34.3.
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The iPhone XR's notch is 5.15 millimeters high,
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and the XS was 4.99.
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So the area was 185 millimeters squared
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versus 169 millimeters squared.
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So the LCD ones have bigger notches.
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The reason for this is that the bezels around the screen
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are bigger and they can't cut in quite as close
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as they do with the OLEDs.
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Remember Apple even talked about this,
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about how they do like the anti-aliasing
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around the edges and all that stuff.
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So moving to your pick specifically,
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that at least one iPhone would see a smaller notch in 2020.
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If you go from the iPhone 11 to the iPhone 12,
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that's true, 'cause it goes from,
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and then we should say too,
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the iPhone 11 notch was bigger than the iPhone XR notch,
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actually by quite a bit.
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And so going to the 12, it is smaller.
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So by the letter of the pick, I think you're correct.
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You are correct.
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But in the, what a good friend of mine calls
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the passion of the pick, you don't get this.
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But we don't grade on passion, do we?
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All of this is, like it's not a,
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like just eyeballing it, it's not a smaller notch, right?
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Smaller notch means MKBHD points it out in a video.
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We were always getting out the calipers for this
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no matter what happened, right?
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always going to be measurements. But like, this is the question. I'm just positing it
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to the group here. Yes. By what I wrote down, it's correct. It isn't what I thought would
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happen though. Can you sum it up for me because I got very confused by all the numbers? Alright,
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so yeah, I can do it again. You're doing okay over there, you did a lot of summing up today.
00:47:46
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It's okay. But basically, Federico, the only way that I could get this pic is the iPhone
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11 has a larger notch than the iPhone 12 because the iPhone 11 had an LCD screen
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and the iPhone 12 has an OLED screen. So you did get that just because they
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switched to OLED. If they had stayed with LCD you would have missed it. Yep. So I
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think you get it but I'm not happy about how you got it. Me either but I'll take
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it. I think he gets it but he shouldn't be too happy about his win. It's not a
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it's not a it's not a honorable win. It's a technicality. Here's the thing if I win
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with this like if I become chairman with this I'm not gonna feel good about it.
00:48:31
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Well you better get used to it because I think you know you have a really good
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chance at this point. Well no but spoiler alert I was doing pretty okay going into
00:48:43
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this round. So yeah, me getting this right doesn't necessarily mean it's the reason.
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We'll get to that huh? Steven, why don't you read yours? This is only going to take a second.
00:48:54
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Apple podcast app launches on Android. So yeah, there you go. Myke is the new annual
00:49:00
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chairman. Yep. And I, so here's the thing, if I would have had to, if my winning would
00:49:06
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have come down to that Ricky, I don't know how I'd feel, but I'll just take it because
00:49:10
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I'm winning anyway, so I may as well just sweep the whole board. And I got this thing
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for a year, boys. This feels good. I wanted to win this one the most, because then no
00:49:19
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one could take it away from me for a whole 12 months.
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So yeah, so that's Notch data. I think I'm gonna do a blog post about this, because it's
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interesting that it's gotten bigger over time.
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But I have a question for you, though. Because you did it by what, the developer guidelines?
00:49:37
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This is from Apple's specifications.
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But is that for developers?
00:49:42
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It's for accessory makers.
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It's for accessory makers, cool.
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That was the one I wanted to check, because this was the trouble that I had, was like,
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by the simulator and stuff, they're wildly different in a bunch of different ways, and
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I really struggled to try and find an answer on this.
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Yeah, I did too, I looked at that, and that's complicated by some are 2x and some are 3x,
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The LCD ones, you have to shift that math over.
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The reason I went with this is because A) it's publicly available, everyone can see it,
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and it's the—Apple measures it the same way across all the phones.
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So doesn't—millimeters don't care about 2x or 3x graphics, right?
00:50:19
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It cares how wide is this thing.
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And the PDFs in there, this starts on page 157 of that PDF.
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You can go look at all this.
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It's actually a fascinating document, but it is your win.
00:50:34
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So congratulations Mr. Annual Chairman.
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I will now sign into the account.
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Because the account is mine.
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I'm going to change all of the information.
00:50:45
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And remember too, we had a request.
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I think we should honor it.
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If we tweet at those accounts we should put our initials after it so people know who's
00:50:52
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who in the past because they change hands.
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Yeah, I also won't tweet for a few days so I don't spoil it for people.
00:50:58
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Yes, you don't want to spoil the show for people who don't listen to The Weeknd.
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We do have flexis to look at.
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Remember, the rules around the flexis don't apply to these, because the rules were implemented
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These are just non-graded picks, basically, for bragging rights.
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Federico, please tell me you got one right.
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And I said, "Shortcuts will gain folders and/or new ways to run shortcuts," which is correct.
00:51:27
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Yeah, both are true.
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Yeah, there's the folders, there's the new widget. I think it was last year that they added, like,
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the accessibility stuff for running shortcuts via, like, in... if you assign, like, a custom
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keyboard shortcut. Anyway, it is a correct pick, yes.
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And this is just a pick of pure happiness.
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This is a very happy pick. Oh, and also you can keep... you can run shortcuts from the Apple Watch,
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which is also, you know, the new... the new Watch app. So yeah, I'm very happy that I got this right,
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and I'm very happy that it came true.
00:52:02
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All right, Myke.
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"I still believe Apple will announce a services bundle."
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I love the way I phrased this.
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Like, I still believe it,
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because I think at that point we'd stopped believing.
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Like, there'd been a lot of disbelief from people
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that it would happen.
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But, yeah, there it is.
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This was a pic made out of pessimism and sorrow
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at the state of Mac Catalyst a couple years ago.
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But I said, "WWC brings no real changes to Mac Catalyst."
00:52:33
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Glad to say I was wrong, because Catalyst is a lot better now.
00:52:37
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Yeah. It made sense why you made that pick, because of SwiftUI, right?
00:52:41
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And the way that the WWDC presentation prior to that
00:52:44
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had presented Catalyst, of kind of like sweeping it under the rug a little bit.
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Mm-hmm. And in a way, it's more swept under the rug
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rug because it's really more important on Intel Max, but it is what it is.
00:53:03
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Interesting. Federico, we only did two rounds of flexis, there's another change.
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What was your second or final? This is a whole bag of sadness. The iPad home
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screen will continue to change with new elements and additions.
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Nope. No, just... nope, nope, nope. If you had said iOS, the phone would have pulled you over the line.
00:53:28
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Yes, yes. This is just sad. It's one of my hopes for 2021 to actually get the
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new home screen features on iPad, but not in 2020. So. Mm-hmm. Sorry about that.
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yeah that one sucks honestly like yes that's a good description it sucks
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all right Apple will introduce a new iMac design of an accompanying external
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display didn't happen either did it did not happen either
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Apple okay so the history of this pick is in 2019 I said Apple's gonna ship the
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first ARM Mac in 2019 and they didn't so I got discouraged and then I said stick
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it to Apple they're not gonna ship the first ARM Mac in 2020 they shipped three
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of them. I still don't know why. Well so I'm swinging it we'll find out in a
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minute but I'm swinging hard the other way when it comes to Apple Silicon.
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You can't chill can you? It's just you're all over the place when it comes to Apple Silicon.
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I'm all over the place man there's so much to think about so many things to see but
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But that was 2020, much like the year the Rickies, for the most part, total disaster.
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All right so my round one pick. Apple announces a new Mac Pro powered by Apple Silicon.
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Oh this year? This year yep. Interesting that's a bold one.
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I do not think it's going to ship.
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But you think it'll be announced.
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This year, but I think it will be announced.
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Either they do it at WWDC or they do it later.
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And so I've got a couple of reasons for this.
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One, I think that Apple were being very aggressive with their timeframes, like purposefully.
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So I don't think it's going to take them the two years that they gave to make the full
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And also the Mac Pro, like the top end of the professional line of Apple's products
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is one of the only product lines where they have a history in recent times of pre-announcing
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So the Mac Pro, the Trash Can Mac Pro, they did this.
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The iMac Pro, they did this.
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And the Mac Pro, they have done this.
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Because I think this is one where the volumes are lower and the people that need them are
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are going to keep buying them even if there's a new one coming, you know what I mean?
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So I think that Apple will announce their new top-end Mac Pro powered by Apple Silicon
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many months before they ship it.
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And I reckon they will do that in 2021.
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But you're not saying anything about shipping, just announcement?
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No, because I don't think it's going to ship.
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I mean, this is just between us.
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It's not going in my pick, but I do not think it will ship this year.
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I think they will announce it this year.
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Yeah, see if that were the greater thing, I would have, I would think you'd be wrong
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because Apple generally ships these pro machines around December 20th or so.
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Yeah, we'll see how that goes.
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I have a pick related to this in a second.
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So I'm starting out 2021, on a sad note, the iPad mini does not receive the new design
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language in 2021.
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Why would you do this?
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Are you sure about this negative peaks, Steven?
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Yeah, why are you going to be like this?
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I now want it to happen.
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The iPad mini just like so far down the bottom of the line, they only updated every three or four years.
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But now this is an energy you're putting into the world.
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Yeah, it's energy the iPad mini team is putting into the world.
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Have you seen the rumors saying that Apple was working on this?
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There was a rumor saying that cheap iPad.
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That was a recent one.
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But going back further though, there's been rumors, hasn't there?
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You know what?
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The iPad Mini does receive the new design language of 2021.
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I guess this is technically legal to do this.
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Was that so easy?
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The iPad Mini does receive--
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I want to be positive.
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You've talked me out of my negativity.
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See, this is my love spreading already having its effects.
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Now, if they don't do it and you guys got me to change this,
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I'm going to be mad.
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In fact, I'm going to write as a note, originally, Stephen...
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Didn't want to do it.
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...said it would not be...
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This was so easy to do.
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Yeah, I know. This is a power that we should maybe work together.
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I should have like an outlet where I write things and can convince people about stuff.
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Hmm. Like stories.
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Yeah, something like that. Interesting.
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So the iPad mini does receive the new design, right?
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And I will buy it on day one.
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Well, I wish you the best of luck.
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I also hope it comes out.
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So my first round one pick is Apple launches at least one iPad model with a mini LED display
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This has been rumored multiple times that Apple is working on a new display technology.
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The rumors are saying for the iPad Pro specifically, but I'd rather keep it generic, you know,
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because this is how you get the points.
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Yeah, I want to help you a little bit here.
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I don't know if you should specify the display technology.
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Oh, with the new display technology then?
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Yeah, because there's been a lot of names out there.
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also like the essence of the pick but yeah with the new display yeah because
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that's what you're saying right so that's why I'm trying to help you no I
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don't particularly care about mini LED or OLED or just new display tech yeah
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and also like it might be one of those things where Apple give it a name and
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it's difficult for us right but is it actually like a custom yeah yeah so
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should you clarify further new display tech to the iPad because if it's OLED
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that's not new display tech they have that in the phone for yeah for the iPad
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new on the iPad okay can you I don't know how can we clarify that new on the
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iPad yeah yeah that's I know that's what you wanted but I know future us would
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yes wobble squibble squabble squibble that sometimes it's good to know
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yourselves and try and make it easy on yourself you know yeah to know yourself
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ahead of time. So that's round one. Okay. It is. So time for round two. It is. My first
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pick for well my second pick my round two my first pick in round two which is therefore
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my second pick in the 2021 rookies is the iOS 15 gives users more home screen customization
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options. What if they just bring iOS 14 widgets out onto the home screen of the iPad? Does
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That would be iPadOS 15.
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That's an iPadOS 15.
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I picked it specifically so it wasn't there.
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This is on the iPhone, right?
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I don't know what these things are going to be.
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There are a lot of potential options, right?
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It could be icon customization, it could be theming, it could be wider widget choices than before.
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I don't know what exactly, but I think this is going to be a "we'll know it when we see it" and it will be clear.
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because again this is not in my pick but I imagine Apple very literally saying
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right we know people love to customize their home screen so in iOS 15 we're
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doing this and like this is a pick where I just think if they don't do this I
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don't know what's going on over there right because they became an accidental
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cultural moment with iOS 14 in a way that they weren't expecting and if you
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were not going to capitalize on that I don't get it I just don't get it when
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when they've already clearly shown they're willing to by making those changes and shortcuts, right?
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They're happy to make it easier for people. I don't know why they don't just go further and
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do more stuff that allows people to customize their home screens.
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My round two pick is no in-person WWDC 2021.
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This feels like a lock.
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Yep, just wanted to get it on the board.
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This is honestly, of all of our picks, this feels like the most certain to me.
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I can't imagine it, right? Like, I'm in lockdown until March in the UK, right? So, like, I
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can't imagine, I just can't imagine it happening, right? So, it just doesn't seem possible or
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safe or clever.
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Yeah, it's not happening. So, this is very likely a point. Okay. My second pick is Apple
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launches, and again this is between quotes, AirTags accessories for tracking
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physical objects. So the name isn't necessarily like we should clarify that
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the name may be different. I'm basically referring to the accessory that's been
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rumored for years at this point. The little, you know, tile-like device that
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you're gonna stick it or put it somewhere and you're gonna be able to
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track a physical object in the real world.
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Basically like these small tags that we've seen referenced
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in dozens of different versions of iOS.
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We've seen screenshots, we've seen animations,
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we've seen all kinds of references in code.
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And I suppose that in 2021,
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these accessories will finally come out at some point.
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So this is my pick.
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- Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of smoke for that fire.
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So I think you're gonna get this.
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All right, so that is the end of round two.
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As a reminder, each of those picks is worth one point.
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Time for the Rikis.
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If you get these right, you get two points.
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If you get it wrong, you lose a point.
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So this can make or break a game.
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Myke, you're up.
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I'm having cold feet at the very last moment.
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Let me talk through this.
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Wow, this is a Riki, if I've ever seen one.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I need to, I want to go back on this.
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Alright, so as of a, I don't know, a year or two ago,
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the way that we spoke about this before, the way that we come up with this,
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so there isn't just 95 minutes of screaming,
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is we have to get pre-agreement from each other
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that our Ricky picks are risky enough.
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Because there have been many times where somebody has produced something
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and either one or two of the three people will say that is not risky enough and then there's like
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two days of fighting until we come up with the answers. I would say that I think in the last
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12 months we have all got really good at picking risky picks right because I feel that is way less
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fighting now but it's still worth going through it before we come to the show. So I presented,
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I think we all did this in the end. Three picks that were all deemed risky.
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I ended up choosing one of them and then two of those picks have gone into my flexies.
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I am now torn between two of my picks for my Ricky. I will just say what they are. One,
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a Mac gets a touch screen. Two, iPad multitasking is overhauled again.
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I think that both of these things are going to happen.
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I don't know if they're 2021, which is why they're risky, right?
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Like, I think we could probably all agree that it seems like these things will probably happen at some point,
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but it's just, are they gonna happen this year?
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And I'm not sure which one I want to go with.
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So I firmly believe that the touch screen is riskier.
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- Yes, it is. - And what that means
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is that the glory is better if you get it right.
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- Oh, I know, yeah.
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- And Apple has overhauled multitasking
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every two or three years for like five or six years.
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So that one feels, I mean,
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I'd be okay with it being a risky pick,
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but I think the Mac is way more glorious.
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I think I want to go with the glory and the passion, right?
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I think I'm going to keep it.
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Learn from the best.
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I'm going to keep it.
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A Mac gets a touch screen is my Ricky pick.
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I want it to happen.
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I really love it.
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Can I ask a clarifying question on that?
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So Jason said something on upgrade
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that I hadn't thought about, which was like,
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what if the iMac didn't get a touch screen,
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but it could be operated by the Apple Pencil.
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And I had not considered that.
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It's still touch.
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Still touch.
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See, I would say it's not touch.
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If your meaty finger can't move an item around, it's not a touch screen.
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Well, but you're touching the display with something.
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So maybe, maybe.
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It is technically touchable.
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Here's the thing.
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So if the i...
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So I would say if the iMac got use of the Apple Pencil,
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that would still be monumental and is still quite risky.
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So what if the pick is a Mac gets a screen that can be...
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See, I'm trying to find a phrase that could encapsulate both of those.
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A screen that supports touch input.
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That supports touch input?
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Touch input and/or pencil input.
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Yes, there you go. A screen that supports touch or pencil input.
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That's going to be my pick.
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Because I think that both of those...
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And/or. You have to say and/or.
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Yeah, I think that both of those are risky.
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It would really, I think it would really suck if they made an iMac that worked with the Apple pencil and I got my Ricky wrong.
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Like that would be sad. And look we've talked about that for years. I wrote a thing for Federico
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Probably four years ago about like hey the trackpad and this MacBook Pro is humongous
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Why can't I use an Apple pencil on it? Right? Like it's just right there
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Well, and the other one is the Surface Studio, right? Like everyone thinks and talks about the Surface Studio
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Yeah, they've sold six of them
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But it's still an industrial design that is interested and cool and people would like on the Mac.
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And I could imagine the iMac being maybe one of the harder ones to put touch on,
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but maybe you put pencil support on it and have a really weird adjustability, which by the way,
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I'll get to later I suppose. So yeah, okay, that's what I'm going to go with.
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And Apple announces a... Sorry, a Mac gets a touch screen... Sorry, let me do it again.
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third time's a charm. A Mac gets a screen that supports touch and/or Apple Pencil support.
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Or Apple Pencil input we should say. Alright, so my pick is related to yours about Apple announcing
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a new Mac Pro. I'm going even further. Oh no. Because I'm gonna say that Apple has Apple
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Silicon replacements for all of its Intel Macs on sale by the end of 2021. What is wrong with you?
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Why have you done this?
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They did, look, they went super fast with Intel.
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I think they're ready.
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I think we're just going to see how they're going to rip the Band-Aid off.
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And the two-year thing was just a cover in case it was slower than that.
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But I believe...
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By the end of this year.
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That means I can give them my credit card number for an Apple Silicon Mac Pro within
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Or whatever the last one is.
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Because I think it's going to be tricky to judge this, even.
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If you can put money into a website and get a computer out of it, then it's for sale.
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Alright, but what if I can still buy an iMac Pro?
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With Intel chips in it.
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I don't think they're going to keep any Intel Macs around, but I see what you're saying.
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Well, he's saying that Apple has Apple Silicon replacement, so you may still be able to buy
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an Intel iMac Pro.
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Apple Silicon versions.
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Versions, yes.
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Yeah, but what if there is no Apple Silicon iMac Pro? Then what are we going to do?
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Then if the Intel iMac Pro is gone, then we know...
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But what if it isn't, is what I'm saying? What if you can still buy it?
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That's 11 months away.
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So, if on December 31st 2021 you go to the Apple website and you see an Intel-based iMac Pro,
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and there's no Apple Silicon version of it, Steven does not get the point.
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But what if the Apple Silicon Mac Pro is for sale? I think it's, we all understand the Mac Pro will
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be last, it always is. If the Apple Silicon Mac Pro is for sale, then the Apple Silicon Mac Pro
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has replaced the Intel Mac Pro, but the iMac Pro is still there, so that's not an Apple Silicon.
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In this, this is the only scenario I'm painting here, because it's the outlier product to me,
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right? Like everything else seems obvious. Yeah, you know, I don't think that's going to happen.
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I think the iMac Pro is one and done. It's going to disappear. So I'm going with this.
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Apple has Apple silicon versions of all of its Intel Macs on sale by the end of 2021.
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Man. Okay. But so I'm putting the iMac Pro in as your potential downfall here,
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that if they're still selling. So the sub point. Yeah. So the sub bullet point,
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which is not great as for clarification is no Intel. Hmm. As I type it, I'm unsure.
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No, no, you would have to say no Intel Macs on sale without an Apple Silicon counterpart.
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It's like if you can still buy an Intel Mac and is it an Apple Silicon
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counterpart in a category that has no Apple Silicon product in it, then you don't win.
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Man, you've gone, you've gone too hard on this one. I don't think you had to
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to do this, but this is what you've decided for yourself. So as far as passion goes,
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I think you got it. I really don't think this is the case which is as I have made in my round one pick
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I don't think the Intel the Apple silicon Mac Pro is on set is on sale this year. I don't think it's gonna happen other than
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Getting the year wrong Apple silicon Macs have not let me down. I won the keynote
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Chairmanship because the Apple silicon Mac mini I have let you down, right?
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So there's gonna be a desktop because you've made us freaked out up until that point and even including today
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every pick that you've made about Apple Silicon Max has been wrong.
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That was what you were setting out earlier, that you kept picking times and it kept being wrong.
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Twice. But the Mac Mini gives me hope.
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And I choose to believe in Gianni Cerulli's team the year of Apple Silicon Max.
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Well, absolute mad lad.
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Look at Federico.
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So we need to have a lot of things to talk about Federico.
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We haven't gotten to Federico yet, all right?
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So far you are the mad lad.
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All right, Federico, lay it on us.
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Okay, I have a very simple statement, very simple idea.
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I'm being very bold and surgical about it.
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2021 is the year of Xcode on iPad, okay?
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I'm calling it right now January 7th, 2021.
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Therefore, my reekie is Apple will release a new programming app for iPad.
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I'm going all in.
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I don't care.
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This is happening because I said this is happening.
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What was the year when we were at the Twitter headquarters watching at their viewing party?
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It was the iMessage app store was the big thing of that WWDC.
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What year was that? What year was the iMessage app store?
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Because at that year we were saying this was going to happen.
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So my point here is that the year of Xcode on iPad is almost like the year of Linux on
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the desktop.
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Well, but unlike Linux, this is going to happen.
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So Linux has happened.
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Has it though?
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No, this is happening.
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This is happening.
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Otherwise I wouldn't have chosen it as my Ricky.
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I am very, very positive, and you can quote me on this, that I will win and I will be
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the annual chairman 2022. 2020 I lost for a variety of reasons.
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Well, the variety of reasons is you got none of your picks right.
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I said a variety of reasons.
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One of them was, let me just quote it back to you, that Apple released one new Pro app
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for iPad. You've been let down by this very concept before.
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I said a variety of reasons.
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One is the same reason.
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I choose to believe in what didn't come true in 2020, will come true in 2021.
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2021 is the year of rebirth and hope, and this is one of those things.
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New programming app on iPad, big announcement, WWDC Xcode, or may not even be called Xcode,
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is why I didn't specify the name, but a new app for programming, so writing software and
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testing software on iPad. That is not, and I guess you can clarify, that is not Swift
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Playgrounds because that is not new. But yes, a new programming app for iPad made by Apple
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that lets you write code.
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Okay. I don't care. I'm going all in.
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Is this a reuse of the previous pic? It's awfully close.
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It's close but it's not a reuse.
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Because he wasn't specific.
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This is riskier because he's being specific.
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So like, can you imagine the logic and final cut?
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They'd be logic and final cut this year.
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How would that make you feel Federico?
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- I will take it badly.
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- Good, good.
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- I was trying to say I will take it, you know.
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with an open mind, but no, no, no, I will be upset.
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- One of the differences of this year's picks
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to last year's picks is it really is going to pretty much
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take us all the way to the end of the year before we know.
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That wasn't the case this time.
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- Yeah, we've basically known this since the fall event
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that this is how this was gonna go.
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That leaves the flexies, let me read the flexy rules
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because I didn't read them earlier.
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Loser of the non-graded flexis must compensate
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the winner of the flexis by donating to the charity
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of the winner's choice.
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The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong flexi
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made by the loser.
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In the case of a tie, the ratio of correct
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to incorrect flexis will be taken into account.
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Each host must make a minimum of five flexi picks.
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Flexis may be reused as future flexis or regular picks and the money of course
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Must be donated on air. I think so far only Federico and I've had a donate
01:18:52
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I don't think Myke you've had to give anything yet. No
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You've been in the middle. I think I won a Federico one and you've been so why do you hate charities Myke?
01:19:00
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Yeah, gosh, man. Jeez why cuz I'm a winner not a loser, I guess Wow the medium is connected host
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Alright, Myke, draw up your flexis on us.
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Alright, so I have five because I'm sensible and I don't go over five.
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Hmm, interesting strategy.
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Because history has shown it behooves you to do that.
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My five on another variant of over-ear headphones will be released.
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I think there's a, yep, I think that Apple will release a cheaper version of the over-ear
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AirPods, AirPods Max, something else.
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Apple releases a weather API.
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Right, because they bought Dark Sky.
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Dark Sky, yeah.
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New Apple TV released.
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iPad multitasking is overhauled again.
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And my final flexi, which was my third Ricky option,
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is a new iMac has adjustability that is reminiscent of the Pro Display XDR.
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Adjustability you mean by the stand?
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The stand and the way that the stand moves up and down.
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I think that they will use something very much like that for the iMac.
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So they're going to take a thousand dollar stand and put the technology in a
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$1,500 iMac.
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I'm not saying they're going to take a thousand dollar stand.
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But here's a few things on that.
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One, things get cheaper to make over time because part of the price of that stand
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is because they know they weren't going to sell a lot of them and it took them a
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lot of money and time to make them, right?
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in research and development, in tooling and all that kind of stuff.
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I like to think that each one is handmade.
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Each one may be handmade, it isn't.
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It's made by robots, but you know, you can probably, you probably have to tell yourself
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that that's the case, right Steven?
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It helps me sleep better at night.
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There you go.
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Um, so, but I think that they will take that technology and that knowledge, because it
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does seem to be a really nice, uh, stand and mechanism and bring that to other products.
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It'd be nice. You know, the iMac with the G4 was like super flexible and where you could put the
01:21:10
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screen was really up to you and we lost that with the iMac G5 and that's where we've been until now,
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until the XDR. So I like all of these. I do want to go back to the weather API just for a second.
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Maybe this is a topic for a show at some point, but I really just wonder what the possible
01:21:30
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ramifications of that would be on the the ecosystem of iOS weather apps. I have lots of
01:21:36
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thoughts on the good and bad of that. It could be better for them. So if it's free then so the way
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most weather apps work now unless they steal all your tracking data like some of them have been
01:21:46
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caught doing is you pay an in-app subscription to access the weather data because they have to go pay
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the weather service that you're using. So you pay the developer and they can pay their cost
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of accessing that data. If it's free, then those developers can't get away with charging for
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something that people know is going to be free. And like, will the bottom fall out of this
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ecosystem? I think it could be good, but it could be bad.
01:22:15
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Like, what about calendar apps?
01:22:18
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Yeah, but think of how many weather apps there are and how varied they are. There's
01:22:21
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three decent calendar apps and there's five or six good weather apps.
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No, you see, I don't disagree. I don't think this is an issue because you're presuming that customers
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know that web app developers have to pay for the APIs. Nobody knows or cares. I think people do know.
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I think people who are willing to pay for that do know and care. If you want additional sources, yeah.
01:22:46
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So your argument is that Apple will not release a weather API because a bunch of developers
01:22:51
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rely on third-party APIs? No, no, no, no. I think they're going to do this. I just wonder
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what it will mean in the ecosystem. I don't think it will make a difference.
01:23:03
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No, I get it. The idea that a bunch of developers on weather apps switch to subscriptions because
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it's a good way to support the fact that you're paying for ongoing service to a third-party
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and therefore it's an easier sell for people because you're saying, "Well, look, it has
01:23:23
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to be a subscription because I gotta pay an ongoing cost to the service provider." But
01:23:28
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then what if it becomes like a native thing, right? Like the reminders integration, for
01:23:32
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example. It's not like you're paying Apple to get access to reminders. So I get it. But
01:23:38
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also, I think if you're a developer, that you could do something like, you can get the
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Apple data for free, or if you want to get more accurate data, you can subscribe and
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get the third party.
01:23:49
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You can still get all your Storm stuff. It's like the same as it has been before.
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Like it becomes a premium thing, I guess. Like there's the basic version, which is the
01:23:57
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Apple one. I could see something like that. And if you want to have wider coverage or
01:24:03
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more details or like those crazy radars that you see in the US, you can subscribe and get
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whatever, you know, AccuWeather and KlimaCell, whatever, you know, all these services are.
01:24:15
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So... but it's a good point, actually. You do make good points every once in a while,
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Steven. Thanks.
01:24:21
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Yeah. Sure, babe. Okay. You're not ready for my flexes, because these are the best flexes
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you've ever heard on the show. I'm really happy with them.
01:24:32
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All right. So the first one, Apple releases its own game
01:24:35
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controller. They're going to do this. Oh, okay then. They are going to do this. Why?
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I think it's going to be part of the new Apple TV experience and also a nice tie-in with
01:24:53
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Apple Arcade. I think the combination of those two factors, Apple working on a new Apple
01:24:58
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TV, sort of trying to find a reason for a new Apple TV to exist in a world where you
01:25:03
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can get a cheap Firestick 4K, which we now have in our household, by the way. It's super
01:25:10
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cool. Or you can get the Google Chromecast, there's so many alternatives at a much lower
01:25:17
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price point. Like, what's the reason for an Apple TV to exist at that price point, this
01:25:22
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is? Right, but so, the question on this then, if it's Apple TV, you think that they would
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include this game controller with the Apple TV? Potentially, maybe with a version of the
01:25:32
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Apple TV. Maybe. Why not? I think it could be a nice, you know, sort of a change of direction,
01:25:41
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but not so much. Like, it wouldn't be a total shocker when you think about it. There's Apple
01:25:45
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Arcade. It features wide, you know, it features really, really well at this point with TVOS
01:25:52
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14, really well done support and integration with third-party controllers. I don't know.
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I just feel like it's kind of weird at this point that Apple has worked so hard to get
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the DualShock and the Xbox controller and MI5 controllers to work, just make your own.
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So I don't know, maybe.
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Second flexi, iOS gets a native feature to change icons for any app you want.
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So the idea is Apple must have noticed just how badly people want to change icons on their
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home screens, and rather than using shortcuts or using those third-party utilities that
01:26:27
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sort of let you do that by installing custom certificates on your device. Just have a native
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feature that lets you change the icon anytime you want from settings. And yes, I know, changing
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the icon you're going against the original artistic intention of the app developer, whatever.
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People just want to change stuff, people just want to customize stuff. Nothing is sacred
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anymore I think in terms of the iOS home screen. So anything goes, and if anything goes, just
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let people change the icons whenever they want. And yeah, you can still choose the default
01:26:59
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icon and developers can still provide alternative icons, but ultimately give the power to the
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people. That's basically the idea of this flexi.
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Third flexi, Apple releases a bigger iPad Pro. Why not? We talked about this before.
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Give me a 15 or 16 inch iPad Pro and I'll be happy. Hasn't been rumored though, so...
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It's still a good flexi I think, but it's... I don't know.
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It's a good flexy, a bad pick. That's a good description. I list a new iPhone
01:27:29
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model as both Face ID and Touch ID. I think I really want this to come true. I really
01:27:36
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want to have a phone where it works with either Face ID or Touch ID if I have a mask on and
01:27:41
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I can just touch a button. Like on the iPad Air, it's got Touch ID in the button. Or maybe
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it could be Touch ID under the display. I don't know. I still want to have multiple
01:27:49
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biometric options for authenticating myself on my iPhone. I used to think this wasn't necessary.
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That was pre-pandemic. In a post-pandemic world, I don't think masks are going away anytime soon,
01:28:04
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anyway, even after the vaccine. I don't think we're just gonna stop... Personally, I will just
01:28:09
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not stop wearing a mask. So this is something that we have to live with for the foreseeable future.
01:28:15
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And if that's the case, I don't think Face ID alone is going to be good enough.
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I hear it every day from my friends, like, just how annoying Face ID is these days, when
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you're outside and you're wearing a mask.
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So multiple options.
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Face ID and Touch ID in the same iPhone.
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And lastly, sort of this is something that Myke also mentioned, I'm going a little more
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specific, WidgetKit, which is the framework that supports widgets on the iOS and iPadOS
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home screen, will support new widget sizes and more interactivity.
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Now the sizes are kind of obvious, I think Apple will do more and different layouts for
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widgets, maybe a small vertical one, maybe different rectangle sizes, maybe L-shaped
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widgets, that would be fun and interesting, round widgets, why not, but I also think they're
01:29:09
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going to start adding some kind of interactions without necessarily having to support the
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the same full-on interactions like on Android. I don't think you will be able to bring up
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a keyboard in a widget in iOS 15, but maybe tapping some buttons or like, yeah, maybe
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like a single tap, choosing from one option or the other, or like I'm thinking like a
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playback widget, for example, for music. Literally just be able to pause and play, that would
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be good enough, and it would be more interactivity than we have today. So new sizes are more
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A deep and open widget framework.
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No, it doesn't have to be deep and open. That joke stopped being funny years ago.
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Deep and open framework. No, for us it didn't.
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Of all the things that I say on the show, I don't know why you still hold that specific
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joke against me after all these years.
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Because it was such a wild thing to say in the first place.
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It was about messages. Apples closed the call.
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Of all the things I say on this show, many questionable things, but that one...
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Apple's shallow and closed messages system.
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I'm never gonna let it go.
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I made six Flexys.
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Why do you do this?
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Because he likes charities.
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I do like charities, but I just had a lot of stuff rolling around in my head and I thought,
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you know what, I'm just gonna put my cards on the table.
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So Flexi One, Apple puts a cheaper display on sale as a sibling to the XDR.
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So I'm not saying anything about how it looks or how it works, just a cheaper display.
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I mean, come on, why haven't they done this?
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I've got a couple about names.
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The simplest thing to predict.
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A faster Apple Silicon chip is named M1X, not M2.
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What if they do have an M2?
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Why have you done this?
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I think maybe I can reword this, but my thought is the number is going to be about the generation
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just like it is on iOS and iPadOS.
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So they're only going to have two chips?
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Well it could be M1X, M1Z, whatever.
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But I think the number corresponds to the generation.
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So should I reword it to be that?
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No, because you just explained yourself, so stand by your pick.
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And a little change is marked by an increase in number.
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It's wild to me that in the same predictions, you have said Apple will revamp every single
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But they're not going to go up a generation at any point.
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I'm not saying there won't be an M2.
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I'm saying the number marks the generation.
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I don't think that you get these are now multiple different picks at this point.
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What is going on with this?
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Yeah, these are multiple different picks now because now you're saying they can have an
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Like why don't you just say that?
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Right okay because we're all getting confused now.
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Okay so just okay just make it the first part.
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Faster Apple Silicon chip is named M1 not M2.
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Just say there's going to be a chip named M1X.
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That's the pick.
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rid of the M2 part. You don't even know if it's gonna be faster. There will be a chip named M1X. Done.
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Why have you chosen that? Why have you put all your eggs in the X basket? M1 followed by a letter.
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There you go. M1 followed by an A. Alright, the next one is also about naming. We see the iPhone 12s this year, not the 13.
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I see I think you're wrong here. Why though? I think they've gotten rid of the S now. They did it last year
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You can't say it's gone yet. No, I think they're gonna get rid of it. I genuinely do
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I think you're gonna get rid of it. They did it with such passion that okay, you know, well 12s
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No, no, we're not saying no. No, don't say there's gonna be an iPhone 13. It's not please don't reverse your pic
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I'm not just keep it as it is. I'm not gonna reverse it
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You've never talked me into changing a pic. My opinion is that they will from now on
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implement that increment by a solid number every time like it will be like 13 14 15 if they keep numbers
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But I think they will I don't want them to but I think they will
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Apple ships an AR dedicated device. What is what does this mean? It means it's a device dedicated AR
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Well, what is an air tag?
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It's something for tracking things
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Okay, so you're saying like?
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No, it's strapped me and baby. I want to see the world. Mm-hmm
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What if it's mixed reality, AR and VR?
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I would say that still counts.
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That's not dedicated then, is it?
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Because Apple will sell it as AR.
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What if they do VR as well?
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What Apple does now is mixed reality, really.
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I take it back, these are the best flexes I've ever heard on the show.
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They won't apologize.
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Babe, these are really excellent.
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We weren't expecting Federica to be one up so soon.
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but also the following two are just...
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This is so good!
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I love this.
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Please go on.
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Please never stop.
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I hope we have seven of them.
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Can you just...
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Where did we settle with the AR one?
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An AR or MR.
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Yeah. That's good.
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What about VR though?
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Apple ships and R dedicated to the fights.
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Apple ship something from another reality.
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No, just say AR, VR, MR.
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AR, AR, VR, OR, AND, OR, MR dedicated device.
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And or, sure.
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That's really what was missing from the video.
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Wait, you can't have AR, VR, AND, MR.
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There's no and.
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That ore's doing a lot of work.
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Number five of six.
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No Mac gets cellular data option.
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There we go again with the negative peak.
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They would have... why would you not have done it off the bat?
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I don't think it's coming.
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Because they didn't change anything else.
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There's a little cellular radio in there.
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But they changed nothing.
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They did the whole logic board.
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totally different computer inside. But like nothing else changed in these machines. All they did
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was get the new chips in them. Yeah all they did was completely redesign the logic board from the
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ground up. The perfect time to do this. But by that logic you are saying they will add no more
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features of any kind to the Apple Silicon Mac. No I'm just saying that the Oportune time would have been
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with the first ones. No Mac it's cellular data option. Also I think Apple's just happy with the way that
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the handoff hotspot stuff works, which they shouldn't be, but they are. Okay. And last but
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not least, 2021 will bring a loss to the Apple family. The iPod touch will be cancelled.
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Oh come on, the iPod touch too? What did it do? Nothing, that's the point. Yeah, why cancel?
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first been there, then the iPod touch is really going downhill.
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Look, the iPad mini has taken over what it, or the cheap iPad has taken over what people
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wanted the iPod touch for. It's amazing to me it's still hanging on. Let me just read you some
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technical specifications of the current iPod touch. And I doubt that it's trash, but like,
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see if this sounds like a product Apple cares about. Okay. It has a four inch screen.
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So pretty tiny. The A10 Fusion, two gigabytes of RAM. It was updated last May of 2019. The update
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before that was in 2015. It went from the A8 to the A10. That was effectively it. No one wants
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these hanging around. People got to support them. What if what did their software? What did the last
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iPad mini having it before the iPad mini
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Let me see the fifth generation similar had an a12
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The one no the one before I know I'm comparing and scrolling the one before that included the a8
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Right so so the the iPad mini
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Went further than the new iPod touch did when was the iPod touch?
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Now my touch is still two generations behind the iPad mini. It's term of processor. It's time to go
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And I think it's gonna happen in 2021
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It's just that the expression the iPod touch is cancel
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Well discontinued no, no, please keep canceled
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When have we ever referred to a product going away as canceled
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This is not a thing that we know anyone's ever said.
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Maybe it's just on my mind, you know, there's been stuff going on. You know, I think I'm
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really in a strong position for the next year.
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I really think you are. I really think you are.
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Starting off 2021 on the right foot, metaphorically, Steven, of course.
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Yeah, I can't put much weight on my right foot.
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Oh babe. Foot surgery joke. Well that's what we're going to be looking forward to in 2021.
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We keep these in the bottom of our document, we check in on them throughout the year,
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and we're really excited to do so. Congratulations again to Myke for being the annual chairman
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this year. You and I reign side by side. Not really.
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Federico is nowhere to be found.
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I wouldn't say it's side by side. I would say the annual chairman.
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It's still a bit of a higher pedestal than the annual chairman.
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I don't think so. Because the longer you're the keynote chairman, the better you are at the game.
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How long have you been keynote chairman?
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Since November.
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That's not very long.
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It's true. It also is more dependent on Apple's release schedule than me or anyone else.
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And also like, you know, you have to pick so far in advance with the annuals.
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Yeah, and there are no rumors really that you can bank on if you're playing the game, right? So, you know
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But you know, it's a nice thing that you did if you want to find links to the stuff
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We spoke about head on over to our website relay.fm/connected/327
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You can find us all online. You can find Myke on Twitter as I M Y K E
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Myke hosts a bunch of other shows here on relay FM Myke. What are you up to in the coming days?
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Recording more shows as I always am on Friday. I'm gonna be back on Twitch Myke got live
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I've had to set up my streaming situation at home
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now, because we're in lockdown again. But if you want to join me on Twitch at 1pm Eastern
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time on Friday, please do that. Myke.live.
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You can find Federico on Twitter, if it's V-I-T-I-C-C-I, and he is the editor-in-chief
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of MaxStories.net. Federico, I have a question for you.
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First one of the new year, so...
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waiting for it. I've thought a lot about this and I've looked at a lot of
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articles. What is the worst text that you accidentally sent? Worst text? Huh? Huh.
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You accidentally sent. Accidentally sent? I once sent a message to Jeremy Budge
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that included a pet name for Adina and he didn't let me forget it for a long
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time. There are maybe a couple of episodes in my life that I guess I learned my lesson
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and I never did it again. When I was 15 or 16, I meant to text my ex about the night
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before but I accidentally texted my mom.
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We'll just leave that there. Yes, thank you. Thanks. I assume she wasn't your ex at that point? No. No? Very much not. No, no, but we didn't break up
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because of the text, so to this day she doesn't know, so... But you were grounded.
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No, I wasn't. I wasn't. You can find me on Twitter as ismh and my writing over at
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512pixels.net. This week on Twitch I rebuilt a fifth generation iPod and it
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totally worked when I was done so that's a victory. Which is rare for you so far.
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You've been having some bad luck on your Twitch stream. Yeah. So that one went
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great though. Yeah. I watched it. Thanks. I'd like to thank our sponsors this week
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Arrivederci. Cheerio. Bye y'all.