Connected

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00:00:02 ◼   ► - Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 355.

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00:00:12 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett,

00:00:13 ◼   ► I'm joined by Mr. Myke Hurley.

00:00:16 ◼   ► - Hello.

00:00:17 ◼   ► - What's up?

00:00:18 ◼   ► - Nothing, how are you?

00:00:19 ◼   ► - I'm good.

00:00:20 ◼   ► We're also joined by Federico Vittucci.

00:00:22 ◼   ► - Hello, hi, how are you?

00:00:24 ◼   ► - Hello, we're all here.

00:00:25 ◼   ► - Yes, we are.

00:00:28 ◼   ► - Let's just get into it.

00:00:29 ◼   ► - Okay, let's just get into it.

00:00:31 ◼   ► So last week we were talking about the possibility

00:00:35 ◼   ► of an iPhone getting an Apple Watch-like LTPO display,

00:00:40 ◼   ► and we wondered if that could mean an always-on display.

00:00:42 ◼   ► I think something that we all want.

00:00:44 ◼   ► Well, Mark Gurman heard that and went out and reported

00:00:48 ◼   ► that yes, it is looking like the iPhone 13,

00:00:53 ◼   ► or at least the 13 Pro probably,

00:00:57 ◼   ► will include an always on display.

00:01:00 ◼   ► - Tip tech meme.

00:01:01 ◼   ► - I mean, this article is like three days old,

00:01:03 ◼   ► so I think they probably--

00:01:04 ◼   ► - We should have tip tech meme last week.

00:01:06 ◼   ► - Three days ago.

00:01:07 ◼   ► - When we were talking about this.

00:01:08 ◼   ► - In my mind, this is very similar to how Android does it,

00:01:10 ◼   ► where you get the time and maybe some notification stuff.

00:01:13 ◼   ► Like this isn't gonna be your wallpaper all the time, right?

00:01:15 ◼   ► It's gonna be some sort of--

00:01:16 ◼   ► - You could put complications, Apple Watch complications.

00:01:20 ◼   ► - That'd be awesome.

00:01:21 ◼   ► - Why not?

00:01:22 ◼   ► - Why not?

00:01:23 ◼   ► - Little bits of info.

00:01:23 ◼   ► I get like a little carrot with the thing.

00:01:25 ◼   ► - Sometimes they update, sometimes they don't.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Sometimes maybe not sometimes maybe you know, I would love complications get a little fantastic how going on, you know

00:01:34 ◼   ► Here's your next meeting be nice. I

00:01:36 ◼   ► Would like that you too on the subject of always on displays

00:01:39 ◼   ► I am becoming frustrated with the brightness level of my series 5 always on apple. Okay, it's not bright enough

00:01:46 ◼   ► And I wanted to know from two series 6 owners how much brighter is it?

00:01:52 ◼   ► Really like in Federica you might be better for this because you've been spending a bunch of time at the beach

00:01:56 ◼   ► In like bright sunlight, can you actually clearly read the Apple Watch display?

00:02:01 ◼   ► Steven, you stay inside all the time. You're not helped to any.

00:02:03 ◼   ► But I've worn three watches in three weeks, so I went from a six to a five back to a six.

00:02:08 ◼   ► Okay, that's also a good point.

00:02:10 ◼   ► So Federico, yours first and Steven, I want to know what you think.

00:02:14 ◼   ► I feel like I have no idea.

00:02:16 ◼   ► Like it's not something I've particularly paid attention to.

00:02:19 ◼   ► No, but what I'm saying is, with your watch, when you're at the beach, you can see the screen clearly.

00:02:24 ◼   ► I mean I see the time. Yeah? Yes.

00:02:28 ◼   ► Because like today I was walking to the studio and I could barely see the time on my Apple watch because the sun was so bright.

00:02:35 ◼   ► We are going through a bit of a heat wave here in London so it's like particularly the sun is very strong.

00:02:41 ◼   ► Oh yeah this is how you know you're talking to a British person in the summer they complain about the heat.

00:02:46 ◼   ► I mean it's like 31 degrees Celsius here today.

00:02:48 ◼   ► 31? Yeah. Alright 31 is pretty hot. Like 88 degrees or something.

00:02:53 ◼   ► Okay, that's as hot as it is here.

00:02:55 ◼   ► Yeah, so don't even come at me with this.

00:02:57 ◼   ► Well, I'm not complaining about it.

00:02:58 ◼   ► Doesn't it just rain in your country all the time?

00:03:00 ◼   ► No, it actually doesn't rain that much.

00:03:03 ◼   ► Have some crumpets.

00:03:04 ◼   ► It actually doesn't rain that much.

00:03:06 ◼   ► The only, I think, Stephen,

00:03:07 ◼   ► the only time you've ever been here it was hot like that.

00:03:09 ◼   ► So your entire perception of this country

00:03:12 ◼   ► is it's always this hot, so don't even.

00:03:14 ◼   ► That's true, and we had an apartment

00:03:16 ◼   ► with no air conditioning.

00:03:17 ◼   ► Yeah, exactly, and that was your own mistake.

00:03:20 ◼   ► Well, look, well, here's the thing.

00:03:22 ◼   ► Okay, I agree with Grey, you and Grey have talked about this.

00:03:25 ◼   ► Y'all should just build buildings with air conditioning.

00:03:26 ◼   ► It's not like the climate is cooling, it's doing the opposite.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Oh no, it's happening now.

00:03:30 ◼   ► New places are getting air conditioning put into them.

00:03:33 ◼   ► We are talking about the weather.

00:03:35 ◼   ► All I wanted to know was the question about sunlight and then everyone's coming at me.

00:03:39 ◼   ► No, no.

00:03:40 ◼   ► I haven't gone anywhere.

00:03:42 ◼   ► I'm not coming at you.

00:03:43 ◼   ► Okay.

00:03:44 ◼   ► I haven't gone anywhere.

00:03:45 ◼   ► I'm still here.

00:03:46 ◼   ► I didn't come at you.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Alright, so Federico, you don't have an opinion.

00:03:49 ◼   ► Steven, do you have an opinion?

00:03:51 ◼   ► It is noticeably brighter. In fact, I really noticed...

00:03:55 ◼   ► Is it though?

00:03:56 ◼   ► It is.

00:03:57 ◼   ► Okay.

00:03:58 ◼   ► I really noticed when I was wearing my Series 5, like, I could even, like, out of the corner

00:04:01 ◼   ► of my eye, notice it was much darker. And the 6, like, the delta between the sort of

00:04:09 ◼   ► wrist down and wrist up isn't very big. It's way brighter.

00:04:14 ◼   ► Okay.

00:04:15 ◼   ► Go get a Series 6.

00:04:17 ◼   ► No, this isn't that, is it, right? Because we're approaching August. We're like six weeks away from

00:04:22 ◼   ► the next Apple one. It's the worst time. I'm kind of only thinking, wouldn't it be great though if

00:04:28 ◼   ► I did buy it now? Because it's after that time when Federico said I definitely would have gotten one

00:04:33 ◼   ► and now I get one. No, I'm waiting because as well like I want them to do, I'm hoping that they'll do

00:04:39 ◼   ► a ceramic one, which I don't think they will, but I'm gonna wait. Yeah, in fact now that you mention

00:04:45 ◼   ► I feel like there's a gap in my memory.

00:04:48 ◼   ► Like why are you wearing?

00:04:51 ◼   ► Because you've been mentioning the Apple Watch frequently as of late.

00:04:56 ◼   ► Like on upgrade as well.

00:04:59 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm on a bit of a fitness focus right now.

00:05:03 ◼   ► Ah, okay.

00:05:04 ◼   ► I want accurate step day and all that kind of stuff.

00:05:07 ◼   ► The difference of like when I wear my Apple Watch to when I don't

00:05:12 ◼   ► is like multiple thousands of steps a day.

00:05:15 ◼   ► Like if I just have my iPhone tracking it,

00:05:19 ◼   ► and I know why, because I just leave my iPhone

00:05:21 ◼   ► and I walk around, right?

00:05:22 ◼   ► Like, you know, just like in the studio,

00:05:24 ◼   ► walking around the home or whatever.

00:05:26 ◼   ► And also I just don't think the iPhone is as good as it.

00:05:28 ◼   ► But like, you know, it could be the difference

00:05:30 ◼   ► between eight and 10,000 steps a day

00:05:33 ◼   ► as to whether I wear my Apple Watch or not.

00:05:35 ◼   ► So I want that.

00:05:37 ◼   ► And then just, also when I'm wearing my Apple Watch,

00:05:41 ◼   ► I do feel like I am focusing more on my health, because in my mind that's what it is for.

00:05:47 ◼   ► So I'm back on that train again.

00:05:51 ◼   ► So I was right after all.

00:05:54 ◼   ► About what?

00:05:55 ◼   ► About you using the Apple Watch.

00:05:57 ◼   ► You know, your thing was "I will buy a Series 6".

00:06:00 ◼   ► And also I'm like begrudgingly using it.

00:06:03 ◼   ► I mean you wanna buy it, you just don't wanna buy it because otherwise I'm gonna be right.

00:06:09 ◼   ► But there was a time frame for you. You said you will buy it by this point and it didn't

00:06:14 ◼   ► happen. Anyway, put this aside, I'm disappointed in our listeners.

00:06:18 ◼   ► Okay. That's harsh.

00:06:19 ◼   ► I had to share my diss... Oh, I'm not angry at them.

00:06:22 ◼   ► I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.

00:06:24 ◼   ► The weird fish emoji went to the final round of the emoji awards for like the most 2021

00:06:31 ◼   ► emoji and it got beaten by the syringe emoji.

00:06:34 ◼   ► I have complaints, not about our listeners, but this so-called Emoji Awards account, whoever's

00:06:41 ◼   ► running this, their finger was on the scale.

00:06:45 ◼   ► 100%.

00:06:46 ◼   ► They didn't want this to win.

00:06:47 ◼   ► I wanted to mention this as well.

00:06:50 ◼   ► The phrasing, they did not want the Minecraft to win.

00:06:54 ◼   ► The phrasing of the tweets.

00:06:56 ◼   ► So for example, okay, here we go, the final vote, your two options for the emoji, the

00:07:01 ◼   ► best sum up the years so far are syringe, a symbol of vaccine optimism, microbe, often

00:07:07 ◼   ► used to represent coronavirus. I mean, what do you think people are gonna vote for? It's

00:07:13 ◼   ► not fair. Not fair. But to be fair, we were putting our fingers on the scales on the other

00:07:19 ◼   ► side, but nevertheless. Yeah, but we're not running it, right? That's true. That's true.

00:07:23 ◼   ► We're just citizens of the world. Yeah. And also, like, isn't it a bit suspicious that

00:07:31 ◼   ► the weird fish was winning and then in the last day it was not winning anymore.

00:07:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:07:37 ◼   ► So, I don't know.

00:07:38 ◼   ► I don't feel bad for trying to rig the election in our favor.

00:07:42 ◼   ► No, this is purely marketing, right?

00:07:45 ◼   ► There's always marketing in elections.

00:07:47 ◼   ► We're just campaigning.

00:07:48 ◼   ► We are campaigning for the weird fish emoji.

00:07:50 ◼   ► Our platform was "It's a weird fish".

00:07:53 ◼   ► Yeah, that is our entire...

00:07:56 ◼   ► That's our platform.

00:07:57 ◼   ► That's our campaign slogan.

00:07:58 ◼   ► It's a weird fish.

00:07:59 ◼   ► Yes.

00:08:00 ◼   ► I feel like that the election committee, i.e. the people running that Twitter account,

00:08:05 ◼   ► they were putting their finger on the scales. The election was stolen is what we're saying.

00:08:10 ◼   ► Yeah, that is what we're saying. And I'm also disappointed in our listeners. Just because I

00:08:14 ◼   ► know how many people listen to this show, right, and I saw how many people voted, and that's a

00:08:20 ◼   ► massive difference. That's why I'm disappointed in our listeners, because they didn't put the votes

00:08:24 ◼   ► in. I would like to call up for a recount. Well, we can only call for a recount if

00:08:30 ◼   ► our listeners will actually put the votes in, otherwise we're just gonna be

00:08:33 ◼   ► back in the same point again. Unless we really put our finger on the

00:08:39 ◼   ► scale. Really go for it. It's a bummer. It's really a dark day for democracy. I agree. As of this

00:08:47 ◼   ► recording, there are just 10 days left for my Apple hardware calendar

00:08:52 ◼   ► Kickstarter. Wow, this has gone by fast. I know. Right, what did you do, 30 days? Yeah. Man, that's gone by quick.

00:08:59 ◼   ► Yes, yes it has. So, you should get on this, you should get a calendar,

00:09:06 ◼   ► and some stickers, and some postcards, and prints, you know, digital files. There's

00:09:12 ◼   ► lots of good stuff. Mm-hmm. Go check it out. Please. Do you have a plan for

00:09:18 ◼   ► for shipping all of these? I need you all to come to Memphis. The plan is it's currently July and

00:09:30 ◼   ► they need to be with people by December that's the plan right? Lots of time is the plan. Yeah so I'm

00:09:36 ◼   ► going to set up shipping central over in the new side of my office and ship them out. Okay. Yeah

00:09:45 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm worried that like, for you,

00:09:48 ◼   ► and like, I don't know if any of us can accurately estimate

00:09:52 ◼   ► the sheer scale of what will probably be

00:09:55 ◼   ► over a thousand calendars.

00:09:58 ◼   ► It's gonna be rough, man.

00:09:59 ◼   ► Yeah, I was talking to the Studio Neat Boys

00:10:02 ◼   ► and they were like, yeah, it's like, you know,

00:10:04 ◼   ► there's a certain number where it makes sense

00:10:06 ◼   ► to like talk to a fulfillment company.

00:10:08 ◼   ► And I think I'm gonna end up like basically

00:10:10 ◼   ► right at that cutoff, but I didn't budget for that.

00:10:14 ◼   ► So...

00:10:16 ◼   ► I feel like a thousand, though, you could do it.

00:10:18 ◼   ► I think so.

00:10:19 ◼   ► It would take a long time, but you could do it.

00:10:20 ◼   ► If it were closer to 1,500, I would more seriously look at an outside group.

00:10:26 ◼   ► But the plan is right now just to buckle down and probably have a couple of weekends with

00:10:31 ◼   ► a couple of friends over.

00:10:34 ◼   ► And even if you budget for shipping 30 of those each day for a month, that seems more

00:10:42 ◼   ► manageable.

00:10:43 ◼   ► - That actually seems really doable

00:10:45 ◼   ► when you put it that way.

00:10:46 ◼   ► - Or spend two hours a day on it, right?

00:10:48 ◼   ► Like I could get through it.

00:10:49 ◼   ► The other thing I think I'm gonna do,

00:10:51 ◼   ► I need to talk to some people,

00:10:53 ◼   ► but I'm thinking about having basically two stages

00:10:56 ◼   ► where I package them and there's a stack

00:10:59 ◼   ► of the thousand calendars.

00:11:01 ◼   ► - Well, no, because--

00:11:02 ◼   ► - And 500 of them have prints and 500 of them don't.

00:11:05 ◼   ► And so I can pack them all and then just do labels.

00:11:08 ◼   ► And I don't know, we'll see how the flow's gonna work.

00:11:10 ◼   ► - But what about the people

00:11:11 ◼   ► that have ordered more than one calendar?

00:11:13 ◼   ► - I will be contacting them.

00:11:14 ◼   ► So I've gotten this question a lot.

00:11:16 ◼   ► If you want more than one calendar,

00:11:17 ◼   ► Kickstarter lets you manually adjust your pledge

00:11:21 ◼   ► and just have it for the full amount of whatever you want.

00:11:25 ◼   ► Anything, a unique amount, I'm gonna filter out

00:11:27 ◼   ► and I'll double check with those people

00:11:29 ◼   ► that they get what they want.

00:11:31 ◼   ► - Also-- - Have you bought

00:11:32 ◼   ► a label printer yet?

00:11:33 ◼   ► - Yes, it's right here in the box next to my desk.

00:11:36 ◼   ► - Good.

00:11:37 ◼   ► - I'm just saying, Steven, but you have three children.

00:11:40 ◼   ► That's a very good point.

00:11:43 ◼   ► But I want them to go to the right place.

00:11:45 ◼   ► Yeah, but, you know.

00:11:47 ◼   ► At least putting them in the envelopes, you know, without the labels.

00:11:50 ◼   ► I'm just saying.

00:11:53 ◼   ► Right now, I've come against a little problem with the prints.

00:11:57 ◼   ► So I'm talking to the company that's doing the printing, it's all here local.

00:12:02 ◼   ► And just on a whim, I was like, "Hey, when I get these 500, 600, 700 sets of prints,

00:12:09 ◼   ► they're gonna be collated, right?

00:12:10 ◼   ► And he was like, "Let me get back in touch with you

00:12:15 ◼   ► about that."

00:12:15 ◼   ► And I haven't heard back, so that--

00:12:17 ◼   ► - What do you mean by collate?

00:12:18 ◼   ► Like, what do you mean?

00:12:19 ◼   ► - So there's, how many prints is it?

00:12:23 ◼   ► 14 prints.

00:12:25 ◼   ► And so in my mind, they were just gonna come

00:12:29 ◼   ► in sets of 14, but what I'm afraid is they're gonna come

00:12:31 ◼   ► in sets of 500 or 600 or whatever,

00:12:33 ◼   ► and then I've gotta put the sets of 14 together myself.

00:12:36 ◼   ► - Oh, you 100% are going to be doing that.

00:12:38 ◼   ► Yeah, so I've asked could they be could they be collated and that was like a week ago

00:12:42 ◼   ► And I haven't heard anything. That's gonna cost a lot of money because that's gonna be like done by hand

00:12:47 ◼   ► So you're gonna have to choose and I'm telling you you're gonna be sitting there with five stacks of 500 and you're gonna be

00:12:54 ◼   ► Taking one of each. Probably. Put them in an envelope

00:12:56 ◼   ► And you get to the end and you'll have one left of one extra of each one. Then you have to start all over again

00:13:03 ◼   ► Oh, no

00:13:07 ◼   ► See this is you know what it says is all really a good idea of the timing because this is the only kind of kickstart

00:13:13 ◼   ► Campaign where people don't care when they get it so you can ship it slowly

00:13:17 ◼   ► People aren't gonna care when they get it as long as they get it before the year starts. Mm-hmm, you know, yeah

00:13:22 ◼   ► you're probably fine. I think so and

00:13:24 ◼   ► You know, I have already learned the lesson

00:13:28 ◼   ► I'm sure I will learn it even more that man making mp3s and markdown is a lot easier than making physical goods

00:13:33 ◼   ► Stephen let me tell you right now you have yet to learn this lesson because

00:13:37 ◼   ► do where you are right now everything's purely theoretical you learn this lesson

00:13:42 ◼   ► when things are printed that's when you learn you have a tractor trailer full of

00:13:47 ◼   ► calendars backing up to my house exactly when there's a truck and there's boxes

00:13:51 ◼   ► and that's when you've learned this lesson you haven't learned it yet or

00:13:55 ◼   ► you also because nothing's gone wrong yet yeah there could be misprints yes

00:14:01 ◼   ► - Yes. Well, no, I guarantee you there will be, and you'll just have to deal with them.

00:14:04 ◼   ► Because that's the way this stuff goes.

00:14:06 ◼   ► - We are saying, Steven, good luck.

00:14:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, good luck.

00:14:11 ◼   ► - We love you.

00:14:12 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:14:13 ◼   ► - And I mean, if it's in the family, it's not really child labor, is what I'm saying.

00:14:17 ◼   ► - Just helping out dad.

00:14:19 ◼   ► - Yeah, exactly. It's like, you know, learning how to work as an adult, but you're a child.

00:14:28 ◼   ► - So there we go.

00:14:30 ◼   ► I may just call everybody I know, but please come over.

00:14:34 ◼   ► Yes, yes.

00:14:37 ◼   ► Including Joe from the neighborhood.

00:14:39 ◼   ► Joe, I need a label!

00:14:42 ◼   ► And your electrician.

00:14:43 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:14:44 ◼   ► Doesn't have a name.

00:14:45 ◼   ► Just The Electrician.

00:14:46 ◼   ► Well, you know, I don't want to dox him.

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00:14:57 ◼   ► The electrician.

00:14:58 ◼   ► Yes.

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00:17:18 ◼   ► So people have started receiving the smart battery packs, I believe including my two co-hosts

00:17:25 ◼   ► Oh, yeah, do you mean to open it?

00:17:27 ◼   ► If you would like to yeah, okay, let me let me do a little

00:17:30 ◼   ► Unboxing ASMR for everybody. Okay, this better be good

00:17:34 ◼   ► Oh I missed the tape

00:17:53 ◼   ► Okay, I'm opening the box.

00:17:55 ◼   ► Here it is. Here it is on the desk.

00:17:59 ◼   ► That's good. That's good. Now that's my stuff. Okay. I'm sliding it out of the box. Yeah.

00:18:05 ◼   ► Oh boy.

00:18:07 ◼   ► I have to undo the tape.

00:18:09 ◼   ► Get it. All right. I'm now going to unwrap it.

00:18:18 ◼   ► I've gone red. It is unwrapped. I'm a little embarrassed. I've gone red. I can feel my

00:18:31 ◼   ► face has gotten warm. I'm feeling it. This thing is not good looking. Oh now you're talking

00:18:36 ◼   ► to me. There it is. There it is. There you go. It doesn't look very good. This might

00:18:41 ◼   ► be a functional product but like every picture I've seen of it, it looks kind of weird. But

00:18:46 ◼   ► But to be honest, I felt that way about the smart battery case as well.

00:18:49 ◼   ► The case always looked kind of weird and ugly, and this thing looks strange.

00:18:56 ◼   ► But I'm sure it does the job.

00:18:59 ◼   ► Although probably not very efficiently.

00:19:01 ◼   ► It's fine, it charges a bit slow.

00:19:03 ◼   ► I mean it's 5 watts, so what are you expecting?

00:19:08 ◼   ► As I thought, it looks...

00:19:11 ◼   ► It's fine on a Pro Max.

00:19:14 ◼   ► I think it looks a bit ridiculous.

00:19:15 ◼   ► I've seen the photos attached to an iPhone 12 mini.

00:19:18 ◼   ► - Can I not charge it on a MagSafe puck?

00:19:22 ◼   ► - No.

00:19:23 ◼   ► - What?

00:19:24 ◼   ► - Yeah, you have to charge it.

00:19:25 ◼   ► Okay, well I saw Jeremy Burge tweeting about this today

00:19:28 ◼   ► because of like, he lives on a boat,

00:19:30 ◼   ► our good friend Jeremy, who I don't think was involved

00:19:33 ◼   ► in the rigging of the emoji election.

00:19:35 ◼   ► - Oh, until we know he's the one to blame.

00:19:39 ◼   ► I mean, when you run an operation,

00:19:41 ◼   ► look, Myke, you now know this.

00:19:42 ◼   ► Federica, you know this, we're all business owners.

00:19:44 ◼   ► - Yep.

00:19:45 ◼   ► stops with us and if not us the one true John so we need to know who the one true

00:19:50 ◼   ► John is inside Emojipedia and we'll blame them. Okay that's cool so whoever the one

00:19:54 ◼   ► true John is inside of Emojipedia they're probably to blame but he was

00:19:59 ◼   ► tweaked because he's got MagSafe everywhere on his boat and has now

00:20:02 ◼   ► needed to add a cable to the boat because it's just easier because he has very

00:20:07 ◼   ► limited space like so MagSafe is good for him because there aren't a lot of

00:20:10 ◼   ► surface spaces when you live on a boat and now he needs a case for his for his

00:20:15 ◼   ► new chargey thing. This looks so stupid I have the battery plugged in and the

00:20:19 ◼   ► phone on top of the battery. Okay so I mean obviously I just opened it.

00:20:24 ◼   ► Federico what are your thoughts on this? You've had more time than me. It's one of

00:20:31 ◼   ► those things where I got pretty much exactly what I expected. It's a small

00:20:37 ◼   ► white brick that attaches magnetically to the back of the phone. I was also

00:20:42 ◼   ► confused by the lack of MagSafe. Like I thought that I could just put it on top of a MagSafe

00:20:50 ◼   ► charger and that it would charge, and I think it's kind of silly that it doesn't. Like,

00:20:55 ◼   ► why it charges via the iPhone, right? Or no. Am I confused? This is all very confusing,

00:21:04 ◼   ► the reverse charging deal. No, it doesn't charge via the iPhone unless the iPhone...

00:21:10 ◼   ► If you plug the iPhone in and the battery is attached, it will charge the battery as

00:21:14 ◼   ► well as the phone.

00:21:16 ◼   ► And that's reverse charging, right?

00:21:18 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:21:19 ◼   ► So if that's possible, then why can I not put it on top of a MagSafe charger?

00:21:24 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:21:25 ◼   ► That's silly, right?

00:21:26 ◼   ► It's silly, right?

00:21:27 ◼   ► Because it can charge from a MagSafe device, so why not from an actual MagSafe pad?

00:21:33 ◼   ► I even tried it upside down to touch the rings together and it just didn't do anything.

00:21:38 ◼   ► Because it feels like this product is primarily aimed at people like Federico and Jeremy of

00:21:47 ◼   ► like "you're all in on MagSafe, right?"

00:21:51 ◼   ► But now add a lightning cable to the mix, right?

00:21:54 ◼   ► That thing you've been trying to get rid of?

00:21:56 ◼   ► Add that back in.

00:21:57 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:21:58 ◼   ► So I don't want to have that, which is silly and I hope that maybe this is the kind of

00:22:02 ◼   ► thing that can be fixed with the software update.

00:22:04 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:22:05 ◼   ► Otherwise, it's pretty much what I expected.

00:22:09 ◼   ► It's the right size.

00:22:12 ◼   ► I would have preferred to have more color options.

00:22:15 ◼   ► And I would have preferred to have MagSafe on the outer side as well.

00:22:22 ◼   ► So that I could do iPhone, MagSafe battery, and wallet attached to the battery.

00:22:28 ◼   ► Oh, I bet you know why it doesn't work?

00:22:31 ◼   ► Because the magnets are the same magnet as in the puck,

00:22:36 ◼   ► because it has to stick to the phone, right?

00:22:39 ◼   ► So, like, it can't magnetically attach to the puck.

00:22:45 ◼   ► You see what I mean?

00:22:46 ◼   ► I got it lined up for a second,

00:22:47 ◼   ► and the amber light on the battery flickered.

00:22:50 ◼   ► But I don't -- I can't tell if it's --

00:22:51 ◼   ► Yeah, it flickers, but it does not --

00:22:53 ◼   ► No, it doesn't charge.

00:22:55 ◼   ► Did I tell y'all I bought a MagSafe Duo charger?

00:22:58 ◼   ► Oh, no. Nice.

00:23:00 ◼   ► for travel and Mary is using it.

00:23:02 ◼   ► She's at the beach this week and she gives it a thumbs up.

00:23:04 ◼   ► So I mean, this is fine.

00:23:06 ◼   ► Like it's not very pretty,

00:23:09 ◼   ► but I do like that you can separate it

00:23:14 ◼   ► and your phone doesn't have to be enormous all the time.

00:23:18 ◼   ► Like with the smart battery case,

00:23:20 ◼   ► you were just committed to having megaphone

00:23:22 ◼   ► all the time, right?

00:23:23 ◼   ► - Yes, it doesn't completely wreck your phone

00:23:29 ◼   ► for the whole time you maybe potentially want to charge.

00:23:32 ◼   ► And that's what I like about it, how I can bring this along

00:23:37 ◼   ► and it doesn't take that much space in a bag when we're going to the beach

00:23:41 ◼   ► or if I'm going somewhere and I have a backpack, for example.

00:23:45 ◼   ► It doesn't take a lot of space, it doesn't ruin my phone

00:23:48 ◼   ► and I can snap it on just when needed.

00:23:51 ◼   ► And that's, for me, that's the appeal of MagSafe.

00:23:54 ◼   ► Like, the fact that you can mix and match different kinds of accessories,

00:24:00 ◼   ► and they always attach the same way.

00:24:02 ◼   ► And what's also nice is that you can see the battery status in the widget on the iPhone.

00:24:10 ◼   ► Right now it shows you the wrong icon for it in iOS 15 beta, but it's correct in 14.7.

00:24:16 ◼   ► So I assume that in beta 4 it'll show you the proper icon for the MaxApe battery pack.

00:24:21 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like that UPS thing again, right?

00:24:24 ◼   ► Yes.

00:24:25 ◼   ► I've seen someone post a picture of that.

00:24:26 ◼   ► It just shows you a lightning cable right now.

00:24:29 ◼   ► In 15 it shows you a lightning connector.

00:24:35 ◼   ► But it's right in 14.7.

00:24:37 ◼   ► Yeah, it's always kind of funny running a beta when there's new hardware out because

00:24:41 ◼   ► the beta often doesn't know about the hardware.

00:24:43 ◼   ► It's like, "Oh, we've got to do it over there too."

00:24:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:24:48 ◼   ► I mean, I think for travel this is going to be a nice option.

00:24:51 ◼   ► If you need more power than this or faster power for this, then you get a battery with

00:24:57 ◼   ► a cable, right?

00:24:58 ◼   ► But if you don't need that, you just kind of need something to keep your phone on like

00:25:01 ◼   ► a low simmer on a flight, I think it's going to be great.

00:25:05 ◼   ► Yeah, I think that honestly my biggest issue with it is just that the battery isn't big

00:25:13 ◼   ► enough.

00:25:14 ◼   ► Like if I'm getting a product like this, I want at least one full charge out of it and

00:25:20 ◼   ► it seems like with the max this won't do that and so like that would be you know

00:25:25 ◼   ► for me the main reason I wouldn't want a product like this I go get if I'm gonna

00:25:30 ◼   ► get a battery pack I want to be able to get at least one full charge mm-hmm but

00:25:35 ◼   ► you know because if you really want it that bad just buy multiples of them get

00:25:39 ◼   ► like utility belt like Batman and just like or like Chewbacca's like crossbody

00:25:45 ◼   ► thing you know have a bunch of money I have no idea what that means I know

00:25:49 ◼   ► It's a Star War.

00:25:51 ◼   ► I know, Chewbacca's like the bear, right?

00:25:54 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:25:55 ◼   ► Sure.

00:25:56 ◼   ► Like Bigfoot guy.

00:25:58 ◼   ► Yeah, he's furry.

00:25:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:00 ◼   ► Very Bigfoot-like.

00:26:01 ◼   ► I like that it's here since I'm now running iOS 15 on my phone, I could use the extra battery life, so that's good.

00:26:08 ◼   ► The design, I saw some people on Twitter talking, it kind of looks like an iPod, you know, it's just like rounded corners and smooth.

00:26:14 ◼   ► I was texting with Quinn Nelson last night and I was like, "It looks like if Apple made

00:26:21 ◼   ► a cigarette pack, this is what it would look like."

00:26:23 ◼   ► Oh my god.

00:26:26 ◼   ► I wonder if that's like a reference, it's like a little up to wall for Quinn.

00:26:31 ◼   ► What iPods or cigarettes?

00:26:33 ◼   ► Cigarettes.

00:26:34 ◼   ► Or both.

00:26:35 ◼   ► Probably both.

00:26:36 ◼   ► He's very young.

00:26:37 ◼   ► He's very tall.

00:26:38 ◼   ► Quinn's been quite critical of it on Twitter.

00:26:41 ◼   ► Yeah, he's cranky about stuff, I don't know.

00:26:43 ◼   ► Yeah. What's up with that guy?

00:26:44 ◼   ► YouTubers, am I right?

00:26:45 ◼   ► Oh gosh, yeah. Oh, I got a vlog!

00:26:48 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:26:49 ◼   ► When you put this thing on, how would you hold your phone?

00:26:53 ◼   ► Do you hold the battery, or do you hold the phone?

00:26:56 ◼   ► No, I hold the phone. I got big ads, man.

00:26:58 ◼   ► So you can, like, grip all the way around.

00:27:00 ◼   ► Here's how I'm doing it.

00:27:02 ◼   ► It is now... I now have a pinky-sized slot under the battery.

00:27:07 ◼   ► And my pinky goes there.

00:27:10 ◼   ► So I guess I'm mostly holding the battery.

00:27:12 ◼   ► Because that was what was good about the first ugliest one of those cases.

00:27:17 ◼   ► Because the second one, the battery went all the way to the bottom, right?

00:27:21 ◼   ► But the first one, the battery was just in the middle, like a little backpack.

00:27:24 ◼   ► And that made it really comfortable to hold, actually.

00:27:27 ◼   ► So I guess it's kind of going back to that.

00:27:29 ◼   ► According to a report from Nikkei of Asia, the next generation of AirPods

00:27:34 ◼   ► are going into mass production in August, so we'll likely see them in September.

00:27:38 ◼   ► Not really a lot, but also in that report is something a bit more interesting I think

00:27:43 ◼   ► is that in the iPhone is regarding the iPhone SE.

00:27:46 ◼   ► So they state that an updated version of the iPhone SE is due in 2022.

00:27:51 ◼   ► And it will be intended to replace the iPhone mini after the poor sales of the iPhone mini,

00:27:56 ◼   ► the 12 mini, which we've heard about before.

00:27:58 ◼   ► So like Apple kind of committed to making a mini this year, because they committed to

00:28:02 ◼   ► that before they put the 12 mini on sale.

00:28:05 ◼   ► And it seems like the 12 mini has had poor sales.

00:28:07 ◼   ► I think it had been end of life earlier.

00:28:10 ◼   ► So like they had enough in inventory that they thought would sell throughout

00:28:13 ◼   ► the life of the phone. So they stopped making them.

00:28:15 ◼   ► They're going to be doing a 13 mini,

00:28:17 ◼   ► but then after that there will be no more mini phone. The SE,

00:28:22 ◼   ► the 2022 SE will be a 5G capable phone,

00:28:25 ◼   ► but it is expected to keep the old design. So it will gain an A15 chip,

00:28:30 ◼   ► but we'll still have a touch ID, home button, LCD display,

00:28:35 ◼   ► you know, like basically the SE of now.

00:28:37 ◼   ► But then for 2022, Apple is still planning on four phones,

00:28:43 ◼   ► but there will be two versions of the larger size.

00:28:46 ◼   ► So we would get iPhone 14 and 14 Max,

00:28:48 ◼   ► and then iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max.

00:28:52 ◼   ► - I mean, I think it makes sense

00:28:55 ◼   ► to take the mini form factor

00:28:57 ◼   ► and just use it for an SE phone.

00:29:01 ◼   ► - No, but they're not doing that.

00:29:02 ◼   ► That's what I'm saying.

00:29:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, but I'm saying that makes sense.

00:29:05 ◼   ► Do that instead.

00:29:07 ◼   ► Because--

00:29:08 ◼   ► - Oh, but that's expensive.

00:29:09 ◼   ► - It is now, but would it be in two or three years?

00:29:12 ◼   ► The SE has always used the old design, right?

00:29:15 ◼   ► So it used the 5S design when everything got bigger,

00:29:19 ◼   ► and now it uses the design of the 8

00:29:20 ◼   ► when everything has face ID.

00:29:22 ◼   ► It's like, where does that go

00:29:25 ◼   ► unless there's some another redesign coming?

00:29:28 ◼   ► - I still feel like the face ID stuff and the screens

00:29:32 ◼   ► are still just so much more expensive than touch ID and an LCD screen.

00:29:37 ◼   ► I think that's what's happening.

00:29:40 ◼   ► So, sorry everybody that loves the Mini.

00:29:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is gonna be a year

00:29:45 ◼   ► where my wife gets a back-to-back update,

00:29:47 ◼   ► 'cause if it goes away,

00:29:48 ◼   ► it's like, gets you the newest, tiniest phone I can,

00:29:52 ◼   ► and you'll be set for a while.

00:29:53 ◼   ► - You know, maybe like in 2024,

00:29:56 ◼   ► they'll make an SE that looks like the 12 Mini.

00:29:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, I think,

00:30:00 ◼   ► unless something really wild is coming,

00:30:03 ◼   ► like, I don't know, like in-screen touch ID or something,

00:30:08 ◼   ► like from what they have now,

00:30:11 ◼   ► the 12 mini chassis is the obvious successor to the SE.

00:30:16 ◼   ► It's just a matter of when or if they can do it,

00:30:18 ◼   ► 'cause to your point, the way they've done it in the past,

00:30:21 ◼   ► they've been able to like,

00:30:22 ◼   ► "Oh yeah, we're just like still making the 5S,"

00:30:24 ◼   ► and just like change out the processor and the cameras

00:30:27 ◼   ► and you have an SE, right?

00:30:28 ◼   ► Like they've done it in a way that can be really cheap

00:30:30 ◼   ► and maybe that's not possible now, but...

00:30:33 ◼   ► I hope they don't cancel. Like, this isn't, um...

00:30:37 ◼   ► This isn't a phone for me, but it's a phone for a lot of people.

00:30:42 ◼   ► The SE I understand.

00:30:44 ◼   ► I still struggle...

00:30:46 ◼   ► to understand the mini. It's like, there's people that use the mini,

00:30:51 ◼   ► like, non-ironically, and then I get--

00:30:53 ◼   ► I know. I have two people in my life that love it and swear by it.

00:30:57 ◼   ► One of them is underscore.

00:31:00 ◼   ► This is fascinating. Is it like the novelty effect of going back to a small phone where

00:31:08 ◼   ► like you don't really like the small phone, you like that they made it again? Because

00:31:13 ◼   ► like, I don't know, would you go back to a small television in your house? Like, oh,

00:31:18 ◼   ► look how beautiful this small television is.

00:31:21 ◼   ► I think the thing is, for a lot of people, it is that like, it is a device just to be

00:31:26 ◼   ► held in the hand. Like, your phone is always to be held in your hand, and if the big phones

00:31:30 ◼   ► are uncomfortable for you, then fine. The big funny I understand, but like even like

00:31:35 ◼   ► the regular size, like the SE and the Pro, like that feels like just big enough, like

00:31:42 ◼   ► the mini is so small and the trade-offs for it. Like, I think ultimately Federico, what

00:31:48 ◼   ► you are saying is the way that things are played out. Most people, vastly most people

00:31:54 ◼   ► believe that it is worth going bigger and staying that way, not going back. Otherwise

00:31:59 ◼   ► Apple would make this mini phone forever.

00:32:02 ◼   ► Believe it or not, Apple's a company that loves money.

00:32:05 ◼   ► They're motivated by money.

00:32:06 ◼   ► Interesting.

00:32:07 ◼   ► And so if products sell, they keep making them.

00:32:11 ◼   ► I think a lot of people are going to take this as a personal affront or a spike that

00:32:15 ◼   ► Apple is putting on them, right?

00:32:18 ◼   ► Like they did in the mini year gap where the SE was older and older before they made the

00:32:23 ◼   ► SE2, right?

00:32:24 ◼   ► People begrudgingly went up to the iPhone X or something because they thought the SE

00:32:29 ◼   ► was never coming back.

00:32:30 ◼   ► - But I know people, and I think we all know people,

00:32:33 ◼   ► who begrudgingly got a bigger phone

00:32:34 ◼   ► and now would never go back.

00:32:36 ◼   ► And Adina is one of those.

00:32:37 ◼   ► She resisted getting a new iPhone for so long.

00:32:41 ◼   ► She had like a 4S and a 5, and she did not want to do it.

00:32:46 ◼   ► And then she was really excited about the iPhone 10.

00:32:49 ◼   ► She loved the camera and stuff, so we got her an iPhone 10.

00:32:52 ◼   ► And now, like when the Mini came out,

00:32:54 ◼   ► I was like, "What do you want?"

00:32:55 ◼   ► She's like, "No way, I like a big screen now."

00:32:57 ◼   ► and people who know my wife, she is a very small person.

00:33:01 ◼   ► And so you would expect that she would maybe

00:33:03 ◼   ► want the small phone, but no,

00:33:04 ◼   ► I like the big screen on my phone

00:33:06 ◼   ► because I do everything on my phone, right?

00:33:08 ◼   ► This is what ends up happening for people.

00:33:11 ◼   ► They just move to a big phone and they stay.

00:33:14 ◼   ► And it's not necessarily the Max, right?

00:33:16 ◼   ► The Max is humongous.

00:33:17 ◼   ► It's a massive phone.

00:33:19 ◼   ► - Too much.

00:33:20 ◼   ► - The regular ones, either the 12 or the 12 Pro,

00:33:23 ◼   ► they're great, right?

00:33:26 ◼   ► Like, it's a great size for most people.

00:33:28 ◼   ► And I know if you like the Mini, like, that's awesome.

00:33:30 ◼   ► And I'm sure that you love it, right?

00:33:33 ◼   ► But unfortunately, you don't have enough comrades.

00:33:37 ◼   ► -Yeah, I feel like I struggle to --

00:33:39 ◼   ► I've always struggled to understand the Mini,

00:33:42 ◼   ► because with age, I've realized that holding small gadgets

00:33:46 ◼   ► is really, really, really bad for my hands.

00:33:49 ◼   ► This is also why, like, I wanted to start playing Metroid,

00:33:54 ◼   ► like an old GBA game on an actual Nintendo DS that I still have and nope, cannot do it

00:34:02 ◼   ► anymore. Too small, right? Too small, too small. You know, I actually think the pandemic

00:34:07 ◼   ► has been pretty kind to the 12 mini because a lot of people have not realized how bad

00:34:12 ◼   ► their battery life will be. Yeah, very good point. I think that is a thing that a lot

00:34:17 ◼   ► of people that maybe even own that phone will have not yet realized is that the battery

00:34:21 ◼   ► life is really bad on it compared to what you would have come from before.

00:34:27 ◼   ► Like, can you imagine, nobody's ever happy with the battery life of their phone.

00:34:30 ◼   ► Can you imagine losing multiple hours of battery life?

00:34:35 ◼   ► Like that's gonna be pretty rough.

00:34:38 ◼   ► Still though, if you like your mini, I mean this is like every time we talk about it we

00:34:43 ◼   ► got a bunch of really upset people.

00:34:46 ◼   ► And we joke about it, you know, we understand that different people have different needs

00:34:51 ◼   ► and preferences so that's fine but also like Apple as a company obviously they're looking

00:34:55 ◼   ► at this as a product not as a I guess mission you know like if it's not selling enough it's

00:35:03 ◼   ► not selling enough yeah well let's talk about how I bought a Windows PC.

00:35:09 ◼   ► Oh!

00:35:10 ◼   ► Oh!

00:35:11 ◼   ► Wait I...

00:35:12 ◼   ► This is like a fake out right?

00:35:15 ◼   ► I surprised you finally.

00:35:17 ◼   ► No, I think this is like a fake out. I think I know what's going on here.

00:35:20 ◼   ► Oh, you think?

00:35:22 ◼   ► I think.

00:35:23 ◼   ► You think?

00:35:24 ◼   ► Oh, am I wrong?

00:35:26 ◼   ► Why do you think this is a fake out?

00:35:30 ◼   ► Well, because I think you're talking about the Steam Deck.

00:35:33 ◼   ► Oh, okay.

00:35:35 ◼   ► Well, I did pre-order that. I did pre-order that.

00:35:37 ◼   ► Okay, then. Okay, then.

00:35:39 ◼   ► No, no, but I was just setting up Windows 10 a few minutes ago before the show.

00:35:46 ◼   ► OK, what's going on?

00:35:48 ◼   ► I have photographic evidence that if you allow me, I will post in the Discord.

00:35:55 ◼   ► So if you're not a member of Relay FM and Connected Pro, this is what you're missing out on.

00:36:01 ◼   ► Me posting photos of the Windows 10 setup process.

00:36:04 ◼   ► Let's see. For example...

00:36:06 ◼   ► Why have you bought a PC?

00:36:09 ◼   ► For example, you see this? Just a moment. Beautiful setup message.

00:36:15 ◼   ► So, okay, so I feel like you need some context here.

00:36:21 ◼   ► I would love it, we've been constantly asking for it since the moment you said it.

00:36:27 ◼   ► I have this new desktop headphone amplifier and DAC, it's called the Matrix Mini iPro 3.

00:36:38 ◼   ► It's this beautiful piece of hardware that is now sitting below my Mac Mini.

00:36:45 ◼   ► And it's just a headphone amp for my wired headphones that is also Roon-ready.

00:36:52 ◼   ► So for those not aware of Roon, it's R-O-O-N.

00:36:56 ◼   ► So Roon is this incredibly powerful music app for Mac, Windows, and Linux

00:37:04 ◼   ► that is usually used by audio files and people who have their own sort of offline music library.

00:37:13 ◼   ► you know, like a folder full of albums and songs. And what... and I'm trying to sum up here, but

00:37:22 ◼   ► basically Rune is incredible because it connects to a lot of third-party equipment. So there's a

00:37:31 ◼   ► lot of companies that make desktop DACs or headphone amplifiers that are certified for

00:37:39 ◼   ► working with Roon. So this happens over the local network in your house. You run Roon Server on a

00:37:46 ◼   ► computer and it finds these Roon Ready accessories on your network, and you can stream music from

00:37:55 ◼   ► that server to the Roon Ready headphone amplifier, and it streams lossless. So even if you are

00:38:03 ◼   ► streaming wirelessly over your local network. There's no compression, there's no quality

00:38:09 ◼   ► loss. It's bit perfect streaming from the server to the Rune Ready Adfoul amplifier.

00:38:14 ◼   ► Once again, mine is called the Mini iPro 3. You can look it up, it looks really nice.

00:38:20 ◼   ► It looks really nice. So my original thought was, I'm just gonna run Rune on my Mac Mini,

00:38:31 ◼   ► obviously my music library is stored on a Samsung T5 external SSD, and so as long

00:38:40 ◼   ► as my Mac Mini is on, I can listen to music, you know, I can plug in my wired

00:38:44 ◼   ► headphones into the headphone amp, and I can listen to music that way. The problem

00:38:49 ◼   ► is my Mac Mini is in the bedroom, and we prefer to keep it shut off at night, like

00:38:57 ◼   ► in the evening, like, as soon as I'm done recording podcasts, we don't like having

00:39:02 ◼   ► this computer so close to our bed. You know, sometimes the fans start spinning

00:39:06 ◼   ► and it gets warm and it's really hot here and there's no, like, it's not really

00:39:12 ◼   ► necessary to keep it turned on, but that posed a problem for me, like, okay, so if I

00:39:18 ◼   ► want to listen to music and this computer is off, it means that Rune is

00:39:23 ◼   ► not running. So I started thinking about like, okay, how can I spin up like a Rune

00:39:30 ◼   ► server instance somewhere in my house so that the Mac Mini, like the computer

00:39:38 ◼   ► doesn't have to stay on? Like what's the cheapest way to have a server on at all

00:39:44 ◼   ► times that's running Rune? And can I just confirm something? Because I think I

00:39:49 ◼   ► might have gone lost here. The Mac Mini has your audio files on it. They are

00:39:55 ◼   ► stored on an external drive. The Mac Mini doesn't have them. The external drive was

00:39:59 ◼   ► plugged into the Mac Mini. And what are you listening on? Headphones? Yes, headphones.

00:40:08 ◼   ► What are the headphones plugged into? The headphone amp. The mini iPro 3. And is the

00:40:14 ◼   ► amp plugged into the Mac Mini? No, it's connected to Wi-Fi. So that's the

00:40:20 ◼   ► wireless part is between the computer and the amp? Yep. But the amp, I assume

00:40:27 ◼   ► you have to power it? Yeah, the amp is powered and that's fine. It's got a small

00:40:32 ◼   ► display. For example, if you could have the Mac Mini on in the bedroom, you could have

00:40:36 ◼   ► the, you could be on the balcony and you could have the amp plugged in and you

00:40:40 ◼   ► could have your headphones on or speakers plugged into the amp.

00:40:42 ◼   ► Like on your belt.

00:40:43 ◼   ► You could put it on your belt and you could be walking around the house.

00:40:46 ◼   ► I mean if I ever bought like a five meter cable I could do that.

00:40:51 ◼   ► Sure.

00:40:52 ◼   ► You could just get like a battery bank and put that on the belt and then connect the

00:40:56 ◼   ► amp to the battery bank.

00:40:58 ◼   ► Sure.

00:40:59 ◼   ► The amp can stay anywhere in the house at this point.

00:41:03 ◼   ► Okay.

00:41:04 ◼   ► And it's creating its own network basically.

00:41:07 ◼   ► Yeah it uses Roon.

00:41:08 ◼   ► It's got a little, like, they are labeled as "Rune Ready Accessories", and this is one

00:41:14 ◼   ► of them.

00:41:15 ◼   ► Which means, as soon as you connect it to your home Wi-Fi, Rune Server on a computer

00:41:21 ◼   ► sees the device.

00:41:22 ◼   ► And you don't have to do...

00:41:23 ◼   ► And you control the audio via an iOS device, right?

00:41:28 ◼   ► From an iOS device, you can open the Rune Remote app, and you can start playback, and

00:41:34 ◼   ► you can choose the output, in my case the headphone amp.

00:41:37 ◼   ► And yeah, you can control it from IOS as well.

00:41:41 ◼   ► But it looks like you can control the music from your amp though, right?

00:41:44 ◼   ► Because it's got a little screen and stuff. Is that right?

00:41:46 ◼   ► The screen only shows you the info.

00:41:48 ◼   ► You only... this one is not a touch screen.

00:41:51 ◼   ► It only has a volume knob.

00:41:54 ◼   ► So you would be controlling it from the phone

00:41:56 ◼   ► and then you're going to see the information,

00:41:58 ◼   ► like the song you're listening to on the little amp and stuff.

00:42:01 ◼   ► That's right. That's correct.

00:42:02 ◼   ► I just wanted to double check. There's a lot of stuff going on

00:42:05 ◼   ► and I wasn't sure where the music was coming from and where it was going to.

00:42:09 ◼   ► But this was before, so I tried to run Rune on my Mac and it did not really work out. So I started

00:42:15 ◼   ► looking into this, had a couple of thoughts like "okay I can get a cheap Raspberry Pi". I don't

00:42:20 ◼   ► know, I did it before, I'm not really a fan of Linux. I really dislike it, I just wanted to have

00:42:28 ◼   ► have something nicer and a little more, you know, like set up for consumer use.

00:42:35 ◼   ► Yes, regular consumers definitely do this. There we go, that took a minute to sink in

00:42:41 ◼   ► that one. You know, like I don't want to install stuff via the command line. I mean it'd be wild.

00:42:46 ◼   ► You know, apt-get and that kind of stuff. I don't want to do that. For your bit, for your lossless,

00:42:52 ◼   ► completely lossless. So yeah, so tell me about this PC, what did you get? It's this little thing

00:42:57 ◼   ► right here. It's an Intel NUC! Yes! You got an Intel NUC, that's very smart. Yes, yes,

00:43:05 ◼   ► it's very smart and lovely. That's a good idea because you don't, I'm assuming you do

00:43:11 ◼   ► not need a lot of processing power for this thing. Well, no, not at all. So I got the

00:43:18 ◼   ► 16 gigs of RAM and 512 SSD model. It's a core i5 nugget. It's not a fast computer, but for

00:43:29 ◼   ► what it's meant to do, it's okay, I think. So this is now set up in the kitchen, connected

00:43:36 ◼   ► via Ethernet to the network, and connected via HDMI to the TV that we have there, and

00:43:43 ◼   ► fine. And the external drive with my music is connected via Thunderbolt to it.

00:43:50 ◼   ► There's a Thunderbolt port in the back. And Roon is already set up, and from the

00:43:57 ◼   ► PC I can set the output to the Mini iPro 3. It saw that headphone amp right

00:44:05 ◼   ► away on the network. Once again, that's thanks to the Roon Ready capabilities of

00:44:10 ◼   ► it. And yeah, the setup was a little, you know, it's Windows. I'm not a fan of anything

00:44:20 ◼   ► on it, really, but it's one third of a Mac Mini, both in terms of size and cost, and

00:44:29 ◼   ► it's basically just a bit bigger than an Apple TV. It sits perfectly in the cabinet where

00:44:35 ◼   ► we keep the modem and the Apple TV. That's cool. It's small and compact, it's got two USB ports in

00:44:43 ◼   ► the front, so I was able to connect my Magic Trackpad and keyboard for the initial setup,

00:44:50 ◼   ► and they worked right away. Plugged in my Thunderbolt drive, I just needed to confirm via

00:44:55 ◼   ► there's a thing called Thunderbolt Center on Windows, whatever. You just gotta say "allow

00:45:02 ◼   ► connection or some sort of dialogue like that. And yeah, I was basically good to go in like 20 minutes.

00:45:08 ◼   ► And I assume the plan is for this to run headless, right?

00:45:12 ◼   ► Yes. I mean, it's plugged into my TV. So here's where I can put out a call for connected listeners.

00:45:20 ◼   ► If you have recommendations on those apps that let you do VNC and virtual trackpad and keyboard,

00:45:30 ◼   ► I assume maybe screens by Adobe is my best option.

00:45:34 ◼   ► I guess it also works on Windows.

00:45:37 ◼   ► But if you have other recommendations for Windows 10,

00:45:39 ◼   ► let me know.

00:45:41 ◼   ► Literally, this is the first time I'm using Windows in 12 years.

00:45:46 ◼   ► But yes, the plan is to just make it run headless for Rune.

00:45:52 ◼   ► And I guess at this point, I will also put Plex Media Server

00:45:55 ◼   ► on it, because why not?

00:45:56 ◼   ► Yeah, why not, right?

00:45:57 ◼   ► If it's going to run all the time.

00:45:58 ◼   ► I got my Digital Foundry 4K videos that I can put in there.

00:46:05 ◼   ► And I don't know, what are some other fun ideas for running a headless Intel NUC?

00:46:11 ◼   ► Maybe I can do one of those like home DNS filtering services? I don't know, send me ideas.

00:46:18 ◼   ► But for now, yeah, I'm really happy because I can finally move music playback off bedroom,

00:46:25 ◼   ► sort of like it sits in the other room, it's not bothering anyone, but I can still plug

00:46:29 ◼   ► in my wired headphones into the amp, which sounds amazing, and I don't have to keep the

00:46:35 ◼   ► Mac Mini running all the time.

00:46:37 ◼   ► So I wonder if you'll be able to run Windows 11 on that thing.

00:46:42 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:46:43 ◼   ► Probably doesn't matter to you, but.

00:46:46 ◼   ► Yeah that's a big mess.

00:46:49 ◼   ► The NUC always just makes me think, well the Mac Mini could be so much smaller and cooler

00:46:53 ◼   ► than it is. Mac Mini is huge. Okay, I should be able to buy one of these things that it's a Mac.

00:47:01 ◼   ► Like, even if it costs like 200 more or something. Like, why does... Like, I want to buy an Apple TV

00:47:06 ◼   ► that is a Mac. At this point there's no... At this point there's no reason, right? I guess

00:47:13 ◼   ► we'll wait and see what the next Apple Silicon based one looks like. I mean, it should be

00:47:21 ◼   ► vastly different you would expect like Macintosh Minuscule is what we're looking for.

00:47:26 ◼   ► That's right, MacNano.

00:47:27 ◼   ► It's not very many is it?

00:47:29 ◼   ► MacNano.

00:47:29 ◼   ► The Mac Mini.

00:47:29 ◼   ► Yeah so um yeah I'm really happy with my I've been expanding my my setup you know over the

00:47:38 ◼   ► last few months so I'm really happy with my gear and my you know this this amp as a as a remote

00:47:45 ◼   ► like I can I can change the volume with the remote I feel very professional now.

00:47:50 ◼   ► The only thing I'm missing, like, eventually when we move, I want to have, like, if we have, like, a small studio space in a spare room, I want to have one of those chairs.

00:48:04 ◼   ► Oh, you want a music listening chair. Yeah.

00:48:07 ◼   ► Yeah, I want one of those.

00:48:08 ◼   ► You can get the speakers, put it right in front of it, you can be like the H&V guy.

00:48:11 ◼   ► Yeah, yes, yes, that's the dream.

00:48:15 ◼   ► And I was sort of bargaining with Silvio and I told him,

00:48:18 ◼   ► "Okay, look in the same room.

00:48:20 ◼   ► We can have the music corner, but if it's big enough,

00:48:23 ◼   ► we can also have a mirror so that you can rehearse

00:48:26 ◼   ► for your dance stuff and whatever is needed.

00:48:30 ◼   ► So we can split the room."

00:48:31 ◼   ► It's going to be a big, small room.

00:48:33 ◼   ► It's going to be podcast studio, music room,

00:48:36 ◼   ► and dance studio.

00:48:38 ◼   ► This is the biggest spare room in the world.

00:48:41 ◼   ► I can live with that, right?

00:48:43 ◼   ► I feel like it's possible, so yeah.

00:48:47 ◼   ► You gotta see if that baby can run flight simulator.

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00:48:51 ◼   ► It'll explode.

00:48:52 ◼   ► It'll melt.

00:48:53 ◼   ► No, it will catch on fire.

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00:50:50 ◼   ► Boys, roast my menu bar.

00:50:55 ◼   ► Summer of fun!

00:50:56 ◼   ► No, no.

00:50:57 ◼   ► No, look, if you're going to do that, I'm going to take this topic away.

00:51:00 ◼   ► I'm going to put it on upgrade.

00:51:02 ◼   ► So I've given you an image in the show notes.

00:51:05 ◼   ► It is my menu bar.

00:51:06 ◼   ► I can talk you through what each of these things are.

00:51:09 ◼   ► You can feel free to stop me at any point and we can talk about them.

00:51:13 ◼   ► How does that sound?

00:51:14 ◼   ► Oh God, what is going on here, Myke?

00:51:16 ◼   ► Oh, we're going to find out.

00:51:17 ◼   ► We're going to find out.

00:51:18 ◼   ► Oh my.

00:51:19 ◼   ► We're going to find out together.

00:51:20 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:51:21 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:51:22 ◼   ► Why?

00:51:23 ◼   ► You have like five different clocks.

00:51:24 ◼   ► There is a lot of clocks.

00:51:25 ◼   ► We can talk about that.

00:51:26 ◼   ► I'm not saying that you're a busy guy, but...

00:51:28 ◼   ► Yeah, a lot of calendars.

00:51:30 ◼   ► A lot of calendars, a lot of clocks.

00:51:32 ◼   ► I don't...

00:51:33 ◼   ► Okay, you have a lot of things

00:51:34 ◼   ► that don't need their icons up here.

00:51:36 ◼   ► All right, tell us what you have.

00:51:37 ◼   ► Okay, so we're gonna...

00:51:39 ◼   ► I realize that in my little list here,

00:51:41 ◼   ► I've put them in the wrong order,

00:51:42 ◼   ► so I'm gonna be starting from the bottom

00:51:44 ◼   ► in our show document.

00:51:45 ◼   ► Don't worry about why I've done that.

00:51:47 ◼   ► Control center.

00:51:49 ◼   ► Well, actually, you know, you've got the time and the clock,

00:51:50 ◼   ► right, like time and date, time and date.

00:51:52 ◼   ► Right, which is pinned to the right-hand side in Big Sur.

00:51:56 ◼   ► don't know if you can turn any of that stuff off but like time and date I just

00:51:59 ◼   ► leave it there it's like of course I need the time and date it's great to

00:52:02 ◼   ► have I've got control center which is fine battery so this is on your MacBook

00:52:08 ◼   ► Pro obviously this is taken from my MacBook Pro yeah volume okay you don't

00:52:13 ◼   ► have that a control center no because it's an it's a fast way for me to switch

00:52:19 ◼   ► between different sources I do the same thing output that's why I have it there

00:52:24 ◼   ► So like if I want to change to my HomePod mini or whatever on the on the desk, I can just hit that and just change it.

00:52:31 ◼   ► So it's easy.

00:52:32 ◼   ► Bluetooth similarly, like I just have it there in case I want to try and connect something by Bluetooth or I'm having Bluetooth issues

00:52:38 ◼   ► which is still a thing that pops up on my MacBook Pro every now and then. I have AirBuddy

00:52:43 ◼   ► which from Gear My Rambo, just get a bit of extra control over my AirPods and stuff.

00:52:48 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:52:48 ◼   ► Alright, so we're going good so far. The issues clearly aren't yet. Alright.

00:52:53 ◼   ► - Fantastic Al?

00:52:54 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:52:55 ◼   ► Showing the date again.

00:52:56 ◼   ► - Well, that's just one of the Fantastic Al options.

00:53:00 ◼   ► It's like, whatever, I just got the date.

00:53:02 ◼   ► - Use a different one.

00:53:03 ◼   ► - Yeah, but why do you need it there?

00:53:06 ◼   ► - Because I'm constantly checking

00:53:09 ◼   ► and adding things to my calendar.

00:53:10 ◼   ► - From the menu bar, not from the main app?

00:53:13 ◼   ► - I invoke it with a keyboard shortcut

00:53:16 ◼   ► and it brings up the menu bar app.

00:53:18 ◼   ► - And you're fine with that?

00:53:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, well, this is an inertia thing, right?

00:53:22 ◼   ► because it used to only be a menu bar application.

00:53:25 ◼   ► So I have just gotten used to that.

00:53:28 ◼   ► Like it's very rare that I open the full Fantastic Hour app

00:53:31 ◼   ► on my Mac.

00:53:32 ◼   ► I'm mostly doing everything from the menu bar.

00:53:35 ◼   ► - Interesting.

00:53:35 ◼   ► - Because plus as well, like if what I'm doing most

00:53:37 ◼   ► of the time is just adding a task.

00:53:39 ◼   ► So all I want to do is hit the keyboard shortcut

00:53:41 ◼   ► and add the task in.

00:53:41 ◼   ► I don't want the full application to open.

00:53:43 ◼   ► I need to see the full app to add a, not a task, an event.

00:53:46 ◼   ► I need to see the full app to add an event.

00:53:47 ◼   ► I just have it just take up a small portion of the window.

00:53:50 ◼   ► Because a lot of the time when I'm adding events, I'm like adding them based on something

00:53:54 ◼   ► that I'm looking at in another window or something, you know?

00:53:57 ◼   ► So it doesn't take up a lot of space that way.

00:53:59 ◼   ► I don't need my full calendar.

00:54:01 ◼   ► Most of the time I just need what is effectively the iPhone view, which is what I get from

00:54:05 ◼   ► the menu bar widget.

00:54:06 ◼   ► I think I would just say use a different icon so you're not duplicating the date.

00:54:10 ◼   ► But why?

00:54:11 ◼   ► What are the other icons anyway?

00:54:13 ◼   ► I don't even see...

00:54:14 ◼   ► Where are these things?

00:54:15 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:54:16 ◼   ► I don't use fantastico.

00:54:17 ◼   ► Appearance.

00:54:18 ◼   ► I don't even see this. I don't even know where to find this. There may not be one. I don't know.

00:54:23 ◼   ► Maybe there's a Discord. Oh, menu bar icon shows. Yeah. I mean it's just a bunch of information.

00:54:28 ◼   ► Oh. You see if I can have it be blank or it's day, day, weekday, day, a month. No,

00:54:34 ◼   ► I'm just gonna keep it with a day. Fantastic. I've got no chill, man. Come on. They should put

00:54:37 ◼   ► a little face on there or something. Yeah. If I could get a little face, it would be a face,

00:54:42 ◼   ► but other than that it's the date. Then I have the next one that you see there it is a world clock

00:54:48 ◼   ► widget called the clock. So tell us about this like what makes this better than I just use

00:54:55 ◼   ► Apple's like clock widget in notification center why this? Because I can drag a timer to change

00:55:01 ◼   ► the time of all of the clocks I have in there. Oh that's pretty good. Which is like the only reason

00:55:06 ◼   ► to have something like that in my opinion is so you can check. Do you use it often? Yes because I have to deal with the two of you.

00:55:13 ◼   ► Interesting. I just use Siri and ask what's the time in say London or something.

00:55:24 ◼   ► Yeah I mean but then you only get one time zone at a time right? I want multiple time zones because

00:55:32 ◼   ► I need to see what's the time in Rome and what's the time in Memphis.

00:55:35 ◼   ► Okay.

00:55:37 ◼   ► Something that I also use this for, if I'm like on an embargo, it has seconds, like it

00:55:45 ◼   ► has a seconds hand, so tick, and so that's when I can see that it's about, I'm like five

00:55:49 ◼   ► seconds away from when I need to press the publish button.

00:55:53 ◼   ► That's good.

00:55:54 ◼   ► So I like it for that.

00:55:55 ◼   ► Then we have one password.

00:55:58 ◼   ► Okay.

00:55:59 ◼   ► Why?

00:56:01 ◼   ► Do you use the 1Password from the menu bar?

00:56:03 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:04 ◼   ► Really?

00:56:05 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:06 ◼   ► I find that so annoying.

00:56:07 ◼   ► Like, okay, so maybe this is the problem for me.

00:56:11 ◼   ► I find most menu bar apps so annoying.

00:56:14 ◼   ► But also we use--

00:56:15 ◼   ► Because you're used to iOS and iPadOS.

00:56:17 ◼   ► Yeah, we use computers very differently.

00:56:19 ◼   ► I feel like I'm not-- I shouldn't belong to this conversation.

00:56:23 ◼   ► Well no, this is why.

00:56:24 ◼   ► I want to see what yours is, because I'm intrigued.

00:56:29 ◼   ► I know you're going to use it differently.

00:56:30 ◼   ► - It's like five icons.

00:56:32 ◼   ► - I'm already excited about it

00:56:34 ◼   ► because you're asking me questions that like a Mac user would,

00:56:37 ◼   ► no Mac user would ask,

00:56:38 ◼   ► why do you have the one password in your menu bar?

00:56:40 ◼   ► - I don't know, I just prefer--

00:56:41 ◼   ► - Nobody would ask that.

00:56:43 ◼   ► - Like I just prefer to open the full one password app.

00:56:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, I get that.

00:56:46 ◼   ► But what I like about the menu bar thing

00:56:50 ◼   ► is it's actually contextually aware.

00:56:51 ◼   ► So sometimes if I have an app open and it needs a password,

00:56:54 ◼   ► you hit the one password menu bar icon

00:56:56 ◼   ► and it knows what app you have open

00:56:58 ◼   ► and it gives you the password related to it.

00:57:00 ◼   ► It's very good stuff.

00:57:01 ◼   ► OK.

00:57:02 ◼   ► It's like, why would you have one

00:57:05 ◼   ► password in Safari?

00:57:06 ◼   ► In fact, I do not keep it there

00:57:09 ◼   ► because I find it very annoying.

00:57:11 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:57:12 ◼   ► You know how you know, you can

00:57:16 ◼   ► turn that part off.

00:57:16 ◼   ► I don't like that when it does the

00:57:19 ◼   ► autofill, but you can at least

00:57:21 ◼   ► have it in the menu bar.

00:57:23 ◼   ► I think the toolbar.

00:57:24 ◼   ► Yeah. So it's like me having

00:57:26 ◼   ► it in the menu bar is like you is

00:57:28 ◼   ► like it being in the toolbar in Safari. It's the same idea. I feel like it just, and this

00:57:35 ◼   ► is a broader issue, it just bothers me to see a full menu bar. Yeah, I'm getting that.

00:57:42 ◼   ► It's like having a clutter desk. Yeah. You know? Anyway, please continue, there's more.

00:57:49 ◼   ► There's a lot more. Peacock. Why? Because when you have it in the menu bar, you get

00:57:56 ◼   ► widget and I much prefer having my calculator just in a widget accessible

00:58:01 ◼   ► to me always by a keyboard command and opening the app. So you have memorized a

00:58:06 ◼   ► lot of different keyboard commands. They're all along this a similar thing

00:58:10 ◼   ► so for me it is command option C for fantastical and command option P for

00:58:19 ◼   ► PCAP. Interesting. So you're using C because it's a calendar but using P

00:58:25 ◼   ► because it's peacock. Well because they're both B, C, wouldn't they? Well, the Fantastical should be F.

00:58:33 ◼   ► Right, but the standardized shortcut was that one, was C, and I've learned that, and that's ingrained

00:58:38 ◼   ► in me now. Like that's one of those things where like I had to think about what my shortcut was,

00:58:43 ◼   ► I had to put my fingers on my keyboard and look at what they were doing, because it's like

00:58:47 ◼   ► just in my muscle memory. Okay. If they would have both been around at the same time, it would have

00:58:52 ◼   ► have been F and P but it's too late now. So when you click the the Pcalc icon it shows you like a

00:58:58 ◼   ► calculator as a drop down from the menu bar? Yeah. And then you can hit the numbers on the keyboard

00:59:03 ◼   ► and the input goes directly into the menu bar thing? Yeah. Okay. This is actually a really good feature

00:59:09 ◼   ► and I love it. It's like, it's very good because I do a lot of calculations but never enough that

00:59:16 ◼   ► I would want to have a calculator open all the time, right? Like there would just always be a calculator

00:59:20 ◼   ► app open. No, I like having it in the widget. I just press a key for Pokemon, just keep

00:59:24 ◼   ► typing and I get the calculation that I need.

00:59:27 ◼   ► Okay, I'll allow it. It's peacock.

00:59:29 ◼   ► Oh, thank you Federico.

00:59:31 ◼   ► Yes.

00:59:32 ◼   ► Dropbox.

00:59:33 ◼   ► Okay, so this one. How can you possibly keep that useless thing in the menu bar?

00:59:38 ◼   ► It's not useless.

00:59:40 ◼   ► It shows you like a bunch of, I don't want to say ads, but it's like, what's the purpose

00:59:46 ◼   ► of it?

00:59:47 ◼   ► I don't know what you're seeing compared to what I'm seeing.

00:59:49 ◼   ► I get a list of stuff I've uploaded and a list of stuff that other people have uploaded.

00:59:54 ◼   ► Okay, so for context, I feel like the context is necessary.

01:00:01 ◼   ► All I do in Dropbox is upload connected app stories.

01:00:05 ◼   ► So three files a week.

01:00:08 ◼   ► Yeah, you see I'm dealing with a lot of people.

01:00:10 ◼   ► Okay.

01:00:11 ◼   ► And a lot of stuff and it's really helpful for me to get all of that.

01:00:15 ◼   ► And I can also, not that I ever do this, you can search Dropbox from there, but I just open the finder.

01:00:20 ◼   ► But for me it's like, I want to know if such and such person has uploaded the file that I want,

01:00:25 ◼   ► and you can just open the Dropbox menu bar app and get that really easily,

01:00:28 ◼   ► rather than needing to navigate through the file structure to make sure it's there.

01:00:31 ◼   ► Especially when you can't always be sure where that person's going to upload it.

01:00:35 ◼   ► I should also say that I don't have the Dropbox,

01:00:38 ◼   ► like I don't sync Dropbox on my Mac, I just use the website.

01:00:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, you just upload for the web, don't you?

01:00:46 ◼   ► But that makes sense, if you're doing so little with it,

01:00:48 ◼   ► I wouldn't install it.

01:00:49 ◼   ► - Yeah, okay.

01:00:50 ◼   ► - Right, like if I was using Dropbox how you use Dropbox,

01:00:54 ◼   ► then I also wouldn't do it.

01:00:56 ◼   ► - Okay, okay.

01:00:57 ◼   ► - CleanShot X.

01:01:01 ◼   ► - Oh, John likes this one.

01:01:02 ◼   ► - Oh, I love this.

01:01:03 ◼   ► Oh my God, I love this app.

01:01:05 ◼   ► Oh, it's so good.

01:01:07 ◼   ► It is so much better than Apple's tools

01:01:09 ◼   ► for capturing screenshots, it's unreal.

01:01:11 ◼   ► Like my favorite thing about it,

01:01:13 ◼   ► If I take a screenshot, I can just hover over it and I get actions like copy.

01:01:17 ◼   ► And if I copy it, it just disappears and I don't have to deal with a file.

01:01:21 ◼   ► Or I can click a little button and open it and edit it right there.

01:01:25 ◼   ► Or it's just it's so much better.

01:01:27 ◼   ► It's so much better than Apple's built in tools.

01:01:30 ◼   ► Like it's unreal. So good.

01:01:32 ◼   ► I love this application.

01:01:34 ◼   ► It's one of my favorite apps that I've found since coming back to the Mac.

01:01:37 ◼   ► Timery. Yeah, buddy. Timery.

01:01:41 ◼   ► I don't know if this is out yet.

01:01:42 ◼   ► I don't think it is or if it's not it will be out soon but the time there is now a menu bar

01:01:49 ◼   ► thing so I can see my running timer and I can you know basically hit it and hit a bunch of things

01:01:55 ◼   ► and it will take me to the app. My understanding is catalyst and menu bar do not work well together

01:02:01 ◼   ► so like it can't operate independently it's almost like widgets on iOS like I can tap it

01:02:09 ◼   ► I can click it and it will say like I can press stop but if I press stop it opens the

01:02:14 ◼   ► Timery app and it stops the timer right so like it can't just do it from the menu bar

01:02:18 ◼   ► but the main thing for me is seeing that a timer's running and being able to click it and it will

01:02:23 ◼   ► tell me what time is running so I love it for that it's great then I have Bartender right and

01:02:30 ◼   ► then everything after this point is in the Bartender view. Ah okay so you do have Bartender

01:02:36 ◼   ► Yeah, those three dots, that's bartender.

01:02:40 ◼   ► So these are the non-essential ones?

01:02:42 ◼   ► Yeah, this is all the other stuff.

01:02:44 ◼   ► It's either stuff that I want to get sometimes, or stuff that I just cannot seem to get rid

01:02:48 ◼   ► of, so it's in bartender.

01:02:50 ◼   ► Spotlight.

01:02:52 ◼   ► I use Alfred, but there is an occasion when I might want spotlight, so I just put it there.

01:03:00 ◼   ► Wi-Fi goes there.

01:03:02 ◼   ► Because who needs it that much?

01:03:05 ◼   ► Then Alfred goes there.

01:03:06 ◼   ► I just have it, in case I want to get to the preferences or whatever, it's just there.

01:03:11 ◼   ► Creative Cloud, because I can't get rid of Creative Cloud, no matter what I do, Creative

01:03:14 ◼   ► Cloud comes back, so that's where Creative Cloud goes.

01:03:17 ◼   ► But you can hide it in Bartender, though.

01:03:19 ◼   ► Yeah, Bartender hasn't always hidden.

01:03:21 ◼   ► Oh, really?

01:03:22 ◼   ► I don't know why I haven't done that.

01:03:23 ◼   ► Yeah, that's what I use, we're gonna talk about that later.

01:03:26 ◼   ► Okay.

01:03:27 ◼   ► Rocket, the emoji app.

01:03:30 ◼   ► So this is the app where you hit colon, and it basically gives you Slack and Discord emoji

01:03:34 ◼   ► functionality everywhere on Mac OS. Yep. Text expander for my snippets. Backblaze for my

01:03:43 ◼   ► backblazers. Sure. This is then the Wacom utility for my Wacom tablet.

01:03:51 ◼   ► You have a Wacom tablet? Yeah. You've listened to Cortex long enough, you know that I use a

01:03:58 ◼   ► Wacom tablet. I feel like you used to and then you stopped. No, I use it for editing.

01:04:04 ◼   ► Ah, yes, yes, because you can no longer use a mouse.

01:04:08 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:04:08 ◼   ► Well, no, I use a mouse.

01:04:10 ◼   ► Oh, you also use a mouse?

01:04:11 ◼   ► On my desk right now, I have a Wacom tablet, a Magic Trackpad, and a Logitech mouse.

01:04:17 ◼   ► I mix between them. That's the key.

01:04:19 ◼   ► Is that like, um, why?

01:04:22 ◼   ► Why is that necessary to have three different things that do the same thing?

01:04:27 ◼   ► Well, okay, so at first it was it helped with RSI stuff because I was able to mix around,

01:04:33 ◼   ► But now it's just a case of I like them all for different things. So trackpad I will use for

01:04:38 ◼   ► scrolling. This could be in any app or I've just used it for input or whatever, but it's really

01:04:43 ◼   ► good when I'm editing to scroll left and right, zoom in and out. The trackpad is for precision

01:04:47 ◼   ► where I'm editing. It's vastly superior. And then I just have a mouse for whatever you'd use a mouse

01:04:53 ◼   ► for. And sometimes I'll just... Most of the time I actually do use the mouse now, except when I'm

01:04:57 ◼   ► I'm recording so you don't hear the clicks. So like if I'm just using my Mac

01:05:02 ◼   ► I will mostly use my MX Master 3 mouse but I don't do it when I'm recording

01:05:06 ◼   ► because otherwise you'll be hearing all the time and nobody wants that. So then I

01:05:10 ◼   ► use my trackpad. My beautiful yellow trackpad as I'm talking to you right now.

01:05:14 ◼   ► And then the last one is Todoist. I'm not talking about it. That's my menu bar.

01:05:18 ◼   ► That's my menu bar. You do not need the Todoist icon. Yeah I don't know why it's

01:05:23 ◼   ► there. I just enabled it to turn off. You're right I can probably get rid of

01:05:26 ◼   ► that. Well it's there because you wanted to mention it so let's talk about how

01:05:30 ◼   ► you're using Todoist again. Well I have Todoist installed on this Mac that's as

01:05:36 ◼   ► much as I'm willing to say at this point. That doesn't tell the full story though

01:05:39 ◼   ► does it? I just forgot to uninstall it from the last time I was using it. Mmm

01:05:43 ◼   ► which was today as you were working. So that's my menu bar. What are you using?

01:05:49 ◼   ► Show us your iPhone home screen son. No I'm not gonna do that because that's

01:05:53 ◼   ► - That's for another time.

01:05:56 ◼   ► - Honestly, like there's a couple of questionable choices,

01:05:59 ◼   ► but I feel like once again, I wanna say,

01:06:03 ◼   ► I'm the wrong person for this topic.

01:06:05 ◼   ► I don't know why I'm talking.

01:06:09 ◼   ► So if you work a lot like Myke does

01:06:13 ◼   ► and deals with a lot of people, this makes sense.

01:06:18 ◼   ► You know, the time counts. - Calendars.

01:06:21 ◼   ► the timers, and you use a computer not three times a week.

01:06:26 ◼   ► That's okay.

01:06:28 ◼   ► - I don't think it's that bad.

01:06:29 ◼   ► I mean, obviously there are things that could be questioned.

01:06:32 ◼   ► - I still think like maybe some apps you could use

01:06:36 ◼   ► as the regular version.

01:06:38 ◼   ► Like if you were up to me, I would get rid of all,

01:06:41 ◼   ► like from the Dropbox icon through the fantastical one,

01:06:46 ◼   ► like I would get rid of all those.

01:06:49 ◼   ► I understand that, like I get that.

01:06:51 ◼   ► It's a different way of thinking and I can see why most people, you just want the app, right?

01:06:56 ◼   ► Like why would you deal with the menu bar instead?

01:06:59 ◼   ► Like I actually do get your query.

01:07:02 ◼   ► It's just not how I work, but I'm not like, when you say it, I'm not like,

01:07:05 ◼   ► "Oh, that's stupid. Why would you want to work that way?"

01:07:07 ◼   ► So on the Mac, you cannot do the...

01:07:10 ◼   ► Like when you open a menu bar app, it cannot be dragged around and become like a window.

01:07:16 ◼   ► Like, you know how...

01:07:18 ◼   ► Some can.

01:07:18 ◼   ► Oh some can, Fantastic Al can, because again like that used to be the only way to use Fantastic Al.

01:07:24 ◼   ► So like you can drag it out and then when you click it again it will open where it last was.

01:07:29 ◼   ► But I like them to be connected. But it's not like on the iPad where like when you drag the

01:07:36 ◼   ► icon you can choose slide over and split view right? Because you split view on the Mac it's

01:07:41 ◼   ► not like on iPad. No because they don't actually act like real apps. Like if you drag it out,

01:07:46 ◼   ► Oh actually no, you know what, I'm wrong. I kinda can do that in a very weird way with

01:07:52 ◼   ► Fantastic Al, so ignore that part. Yeah it does, it gets the little stoplight icons and you can put

01:07:58 ◼   ► it into a split and all that kind of stuff. But not every app supports this? Not that I've seen

01:08:04 ◼   ► anyway. Okay, okay. That's my menu bar. On my iMac I do have a few different things, like I don't

01:08:12 ◼   ► know why but the keyboard preferences thing I have there but mostly this is the way it looks.

01:08:20 ◼   ► So this is Steven's menu bar. It's good right? There's a lot of stuff I don't understand here so

01:08:27 ◼   ► Oh at least Myke's menu bar has a bunch of like popular icons. This one just feels like it's got

01:08:34 ◼   ► a bunch of little... Steven's a Mac hipster right? So there's like a bunch of stuff that's like oh

01:08:39 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like oh these apps you never heard of before.

01:08:43 ◼   ► You didn't get this this app's first album or something like that.

01:08:47 ◼   ► Do you want to talk us through what you got going on?

01:08:50 ◼   ► Yeah, I do. So let's uh let's start with what is hidden behind Bartender.

01:08:56 ◼   ► Okay, okay.

01:08:57 ◼   ► I have Elgato control center because I have three Elgato lights, one on this desk and two on the

01:09:03 ◼   ► other and I can change the brightness and the color temperature from the menu bar.

01:09:07 ◼   ► I do that because the Stream Deck, even though they're all made by the same company, the Stream Deck seems to forget that there's lights on the network sometimes.

01:09:15 ◼   ► And so I have that as a backup so it's hidden behind Alfred.

01:09:18 ◼   ► When are you ever using those lights with your Mac?

01:09:22 ◼   ► Well the one at the Mac I use when I'm on Zoom calls, like yesterday we were on a Zoom call. I had it on.

01:09:28 ◼   ► You put those on when we're on Zoom calls?

01:09:31 ◼   ► I want to look good son! Just one, I just have one over here.

01:09:35 ◼   ► The two at the other desk I use for streaming,

01:09:38 ◼   ► and I have a stream deck over there as well,

01:09:40 ◼   ► and I just have control of them on both,

01:09:42 ◼   ► 'cause like right now I'm doing a lot of photography

01:09:44 ◼   ► over there for the calendar.

01:09:46 ◼   ► The PC's not up and running,

01:09:47 ◼   ► and so I can just hit those two buttons on the stream deck

01:09:51 ◼   ► or in the Elgato control center

01:09:54 ◼   ► and have control of them that way.

01:09:57 ◼   ► Up next is Keyboard Maestro,

01:10:01 ◼   ► an excellent, excellent automation tool on the Mac.

01:10:05 ◼   ► which if you have not spent time with you really need to. It's so confusing though.

01:10:10 ◼   ► Yeah you gotta get the hang of it. Yeah you really do. It's so confusing.

01:10:14 ◼   ► Why in the menu bar? Because it runs as a menu bar application so you can

01:10:21 ◼   ► listen to your keyboard commands. But why do you need it to be there? Why don't you hide it?

01:10:27 ◼   ► Because if it's not in the... it has to be in the... Wait you can't hide it in

01:10:33 ◼   ► bartender? You can hide it. No, but it does let me get to the pallets and like able

01:10:39 ◼   ► to edit things so it's there. I mean it's behind the little dot dot dot. You hide

01:10:44 ◼   ► spotlight you can put spotlight behind the dot dot dot. I don't need spotlight, I have Alfred. Running without any

01:10:50 ◼   ► minibar icons by the way I don't need a stupid felt hat up there. Why do you think that

01:10:54 ◼   ► hat's made of felt? Whatever it is. Why would you assume it was made of felt?

01:10:58 ◼   ► That's a really strange...

01:11:00 ◼   ► It's a bowler hat.

01:11:02 ◼   ► This is kinda felty, you know?

01:11:03 ◼   ► This is one of those things where you don't know if I just said something that isn't true, I think.

01:11:07 ◼   ► That is called a bowler hat.

01:11:09 ◼   ► Maybe.

01:11:10 ◼   ► No, it is.

01:11:11 ◼   ► I have no idea what we're talking about.

01:11:12 ◼   ► The hat, Alfred's icon.

01:11:14 ◼   ► It has a little hat.

01:11:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:16 ◼   ► Yeah, it's a bowler hat.

01:11:17 ◼   ► Yeah, it's a hat.

01:11:18 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:19 ◼   ► B-O-W-L-E-R, bowler hat.

01:11:21 ◼   ► That's not a word I'm familiar with.

01:11:23 ◼   ► Up next is Mac Media Key Forwarder.

01:11:27 ◼   ► What was that? What is that?

01:11:31 ◼   ► Wait, what?

01:11:32 ◼   ► Yeah, oh my god, it's a GitHub page. Oh no.

01:11:36 ◼   ► Mac Media Key Forward.

01:11:38 ◼   ► Well, and the guy stopped working on it

01:11:39 ◼   ► 'cause he switched to Linux, which is not good.

01:11:41 ◼   ► That sounds like a great thing to continue

01:11:43 ◼   ► keeping permanently available.

01:11:45 ◼   ► Yeah, no, since I've taken the screenshot,

01:11:48 ◼   ► I have built Keyboard Maestro's.

01:11:50 ◼   ► Okay.

01:11:51 ◼   ► Keyboard Maestro Macros to take care of this.

01:11:53 ◼   ► So in some version of Mac OS,

01:11:55 ◼   ► recently in the last three or four years,

01:11:58 ◼   ► they changed the media transport keys,

01:12:00 ◼   ► so F7, F8, and F9 on my keyboard are back a track,

01:12:04 ◼   ► play, pause, and forward a track.

01:12:06 ◼   ► And it would work for any media.

01:12:08 ◼   ► So if you had a YouTube video and you hit F8,

01:12:11 ◼   ► it would play or pause the YouTube video

01:12:13 ◼   ► and not control the music app.

01:12:15 ◼   ► I in no way want that to be the way that my computer works.

01:12:18 ◼   ► I want these buttons to be hot glued

01:12:20 ◼   ► to the face of the music app.

01:12:22 ◼   ► Like, I don't want them to control anything else.

01:12:24 ◼   ► And so, having this Mac Media Key Forwarder app

01:12:29 ◼   ► lets you basically hardwire those buttons

01:12:32 ◼   ► to iTunes and then later music.

01:12:34 ◼   ► But you can also do it in Keyboard Maestro.

01:12:36 ◼   ► I'm fiddling around with the best way to do that.

01:12:38 ◼   ► Mac Media Key Forwarder could do it.

01:12:40 ◼   ► You can also use Bearded Spice,

01:12:42 ◼   ► which is another app that does this.

01:12:43 ◼   ► - I would like to get some real-time follow-up

01:12:45 ◼   ► from James Thompson, creator of the popular menu bar

01:12:47 ◼   ► at Peacock.

01:12:49 ◼   ► The bowler hat is a hard felt hat with a rounded crown.

01:12:52 ◼   ► Told you son!

01:12:53 ◼   ► Something, no, something had squeezed into your brain somewhere

01:12:56 ◼   ► and you were like 70% sure it was called a felt hat so you said that but it's made of felt.

01:13:01 ◼   ► So you were right and I was right.

01:13:03 ◼   ► Adobe Creative Cloud.

01:13:05 ◼   ► Genga's can't get rid of it.

01:13:06 ◼   ► Because you can't get rid of it.

01:13:07 ◼   ► It's impossible.

01:13:09 ◼   ► It's like a zombie.

01:13:10 ◼   ► Up next is better snap tool.

01:13:12 ◼   ► So you're probably familiar with better touch tool which lets you do

01:13:16 ◼   ► wild things to your touch bar and I have that on my MacBook Pro.

01:13:19 ◼   ► This menu bar is from my desktop.

01:13:21 ◼   ► BetterSnapTool is something, is kind of like Moom,

01:13:24 ◼   ► where there's many versions of this

01:13:25 ◼   ► that basically lets you like drag a window

01:13:27 ◼   ► to the side of the screen and it take up half the screen.

01:13:30 ◼   ► The way Mac OS does split screen apps is bad,

01:13:33 ◼   ► and this is much better.

01:13:35 ◼   ► And I really love what I've seen in Windows 11 so far

01:13:38 ◼   ► with their window management.

01:13:39 ◼   ► It seems really cool.

01:13:41 ◼   ► But BetterSnapTool, you can set up,

01:13:43 ◼   ► hey, if I drag this to the left,

01:13:45 ◼   ► it takes up half the screen.

01:13:46 ◼   ► You can set the margins and other things.

01:13:48 ◼   ► - Do you do this?

01:13:49 ◼   ► - Yes, especially when doing show notes.

01:13:52 ◼   ► So I'll have one Safari window on the left with Google Docs

01:13:56 ◼   ► and all my research or other materials

01:13:58 ◼   ► in the other Safari window on the right.

01:14:00 ◼   ► I use it all the time.

01:14:01 ◼   ► - There's a good device that you might like.

01:14:03 ◼   ► It's called an iPad.

01:14:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, but then I gotta use the iPad.

01:14:06 ◼   ► I don't wanna do that.

01:14:07 ◼   ► - iPads are really good for this.

01:14:08 ◼   ► Like you take a display, you split it in half,

01:14:11 ◼   ► you put one app on one side, one app on another side.

01:14:13 ◼   ► It's awesome.

01:14:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, but then I gotta look at that version of Safari.

01:14:15 ◼   ► I don't wanna do that.

01:14:16 ◼   ► I'm realizing now in having this segment of the show just how many more things at

01:14:21 ◼   ► once you guys do because you're Mac users? I think that the thing is and this

01:14:28 ◼   ► is not a burn. Oh no, burn him, burn him, burn him. No it's just can do and this is one of the things that brought me back to the Mac.

01:14:37 ◼   ► It's not that I do do them it's that when I want to I can do them and that's

01:14:42 ◼   ► become valuable for me in certain circumstances.

01:14:45 ◼   ► Sure, sure. No, I mean...

01:14:47 ◼   ► But I still use my iPad for many hours a day, every day, and I love it.

01:14:51 ◼   ► No, it's just... it's weird because like I remember working like this ten years ago, right?

01:15:00 ◼   ► And I don't know, it just makes me feel a bit like the odd one out, that's all.

01:15:06 ◼   ► It took me a while to get back into it but now I'm like very into this like

01:15:13 ◼   ► many windows open kind of lifestyle even though I think it's horrifically ugly

01:15:18 ◼   ► but surprised you use better snap tool especially because you have such a

01:15:22 ◼   ► freaking massive monitor. Yeah I mean I've used it for a long time it still

01:15:26 ◼   ► meets my needs there are lots of others there's moon there's magnet there is one

01:15:31 ◼   ► of them has like a window in the name of it there's there's a bunch of utilities

01:15:33 ◼   ► do this better snap tool kind of fits the way that I work so it uh it served

01:15:37 ◼   ► me well for a long time hmm up next I have the stream deck app which is

01:15:43 ◼   ► garbage on Mac OS Myke do you have the thing do you have the thing where it

01:15:49 ◼   ► just opens itself sometimes I don't use a stream deck oh oh yeah you have some

01:15:54 ◼   ► like hand wired mini keyboard on my PC yeah yeah well I got a stream deck on

01:16:01 ◼   ► both my desktops and so it's there can you get it Kenny does it have to be in

01:16:06 ◼   ► the minibar I don't know you'll want to use it check for again but yes it is

01:16:13 ◼   ► look at the screenshot everything to the left no no like permanently hidden why

01:16:18 ◼   ► is it there I still need it sometimes okay well then keep I got 32 inches of

01:16:23 ◼   ► space man biz be glad I'm using bartender I don't care if you use barfender

01:16:28 ◼   ► Turn it off if you want.

01:16:31 ◼   ► Up next is 1Password.

01:16:33 ◼   ► We've spoken about...

01:16:34 ◼   ► You mentioned Rocket, which I cannot recommend enough.

01:16:37 ◼   ► That's next.

01:16:38 ◼   ► The next one after this is Quitter by Marco Arment.

01:16:41 ◼   ► I don't think he even works on it anymore, but it lets you hide or quit applications

01:16:46 ◼   ► after a set amount of time.

01:16:49 ◼   ► And so I have this...

01:16:50 ◼   ► I can just tell you what I have set up in here.

01:16:53 ◼   ► So I have a bunch of apps hide after three minutes of an activity including 1Password,

01:16:58 ◼   ► Calendar, Parcel, Mail, Good Links, and Reader and Slack.

01:17:07 ◼   ► And so these apps basically just hide, they don't quit, but they hide if I haven't used

01:17:12 ◼   ► them in a number of minutes.

01:17:15 ◼   ► And I really like that.

01:17:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't understand that.

01:17:17 ◼   ► I really like things kind of just going away.

01:17:19 ◼   ► I don't want to quit them.

01:17:20 ◼   ► I think his idea was, yeah, I could just tell the Twitter app

01:17:22 ◼   ► to quit every five minutes.

01:17:24 ◼   ► I don't mind that, Twitter's on a separate space for me,

01:17:26 ◼   ► so it's not where I'm working.

01:17:28 ◼   ► But I like the hide after a set amount of time.

01:17:32 ◼   ► I tried recreating this in Keyboard Maestro,

01:17:34 ◼   ► and if someone in the audience knows how to do that,

01:17:37 ◼   ► let me know.

01:17:39 ◼   ► I've fiddled with it for a long time,

01:17:41 ◼   ► and basically I couldn't get Keyboard Maestro

01:17:43 ◼   ► to count inactive time correctly.

01:17:45 ◼   ► So if someone knows how to do that, let me know.

01:17:47 ◼   ► Up next is, where did my screen shot go?

01:17:51 ◼   ► Up next is Downlink.

01:17:53 ◼   ► This is a free Mac app that pulls satellite imagery

01:17:58 ◼   ► from the GOES satellites.

01:18:02 ◼   ► And so these are weather satellites

01:18:04 ◼   ► and you can set where you wanna see.

01:18:07 ◼   ► So it has like full hemispheres, continental US,

01:18:11 ◼   ► which is one that I see.

01:18:11 ◼   ► So Memphis is kind of like pretty close

01:18:13 ◼   ► to the center of the screen, which is nice.

01:18:15 ◼   ► Atlantic, Pacific, US West Coast, South America,

01:18:20 ◼   ► Northern South America, lots of different areas

01:18:23 ◼   ► of the globe, and then it refreshes the background image

01:18:26 ◼   ► every 20 minutes or every hour.

01:18:28 ◼   ► So I like that it changes.

01:18:31 ◼   ► And I love seeing, like when I'm on my desktop,

01:18:34 ◼   ► like seeing all of these cloud formations and stuff

01:18:39 ◼   ► over the globe, it's pretty cool looking.

01:18:43 ◼   ► So is this for the weather for your city or not?

01:18:46 ◼   ► No, it is showing like pure satellite imagery.

01:18:50 ◼   ► So yes, I guess I could see,

01:18:51 ◼   ► oh, it looks like clouds in Arkansas,

01:18:52 ◼   ► but I mean, I'll send you a picture of my desktop right now.

01:18:57 ◼   ► I mean, it's pretty zoomed out

01:18:58 ◼   ► for like a weather application, I guess.

01:19:02 ◼   ► So anyways, that is uploading.

01:19:03 ◼   ► That's a 49 megabyte screenshot.

01:19:05 ◼   ► (laughs)

01:19:06 ◼   ► Way to go, Mac OS.

01:19:08 ◼   ► Okay.

01:19:10 ◼   ► After that, I've got TextExpander and Hazel side by side.

01:19:14 ◼   ► I really don't do as much with Hazel as I used to.

01:19:17 ◼   ► In fact, I could probably live without it,

01:19:19 ◼   ► but I have a couple of things that it does,

01:19:21 ◼   ► so I keep it around.

01:19:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, I have it do like one thing,

01:19:24 ◼   ► which is like just to empty out my audio hijack folder

01:19:28 ◼   ► for three months. - Yep.

01:19:29 ◼   ► I've got that and I have it copy screenshots

01:19:34 ◼   ► into a Dropbox folder.

01:19:36 ◼   ► So I have like a Dropbox folder full of every screenshot

01:19:38 ◼   ► I've made in the last like year,

01:19:40 ◼   ► which is surprisingly useful sometimes.

01:19:42 ◼   ► You need to find something.

01:19:43 ◼   ► And then backblaze,

01:19:47 ◼   ► 'cause that's how I back up my machine online.

01:19:49 ◼   ► And all of that stuff is hidden by bartenders.

01:19:52 ◼   ► So I click the little three dots, then they show up,

01:19:55 ◼   ► and if not, my menu bar is pretty tidy.

01:19:57 ◼   ► - Very nice.

01:20:00 ◼   ► - Let's take a break and we'll finish this up.

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01:21:41 ◼   ► So the icons that I have visible are, I think, really pretty minimal.

01:21:45 ◼   ► I've got Carrot Weather.

01:21:46 ◼   ► I can just click on that, see the weather, or I can see just in the mini bar.

01:21:51 ◼   ► Is the Carrot Weather Mac app, it's still the old design, right?

01:21:55 ◼   ► Yeah, it is.

01:21:56 ◼   ► Okay.

01:21:57 ◼   ► I wish that would get an update, but I would imagine it's out of all of his platforms,

01:22:01 ◼   ► not the most important one.

01:22:02 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:04 ◼   ► Dropbox is next to that.

01:22:05 ◼   ► Dropbox visible because that is how I work with everyone I work with in terms of moving files around and it is very useful just at a

01:22:12 ◼   ► Glance see if something is syncing or to see if something got added maybe when I was away

01:22:16 ◼   ► So I'm in that Dropbox minibar app all the time

01:22:19 ◼   ► Mm-hmm and then time machine like to know my backup statuses

01:22:24 ◼   ► Then I have media playback

01:22:27 ◼   ► this is part of my trying to move away from

01:22:31 ◼   ► the

01:22:33 ◼   ► Mac keyboard forwarder thing I thought well, maybe if she's up here, but that doesn't really do it either for me

01:22:39 ◼   ► So that's not gonna stick around

01:22:40 ◼   ► I kept that for a while and ended up removing it at it

01:22:44 ◼   ► I don't really like having it in the menu bar as much as I thought I would yeah

01:22:47 ◼   ► Yeah, that's probably short-lived and then system volume for the same reason you do I gave you a hard time

01:22:53 ◼   ► But my reasons the same as yours I could very quickly select the right output

01:22:56 ◼   ► Mm-hmm fast user switching this I don't really know why is this here? I'm the only user of my computer

01:23:01 ◼   ► This was the main thing I was gonna ask like you just like to see your name up in the corner there

01:23:05 ◼   ► I kind of like having my name up there. It's like hi Steve, buddy

01:23:08 ◼   ► click on it's my little cartoon guy and then control center and

01:23:13 ◼   ► Notification Center which is for some reason as we've discussed behind the calendar

01:23:17 ◼   ► You may have mentioned this already but like I got I just was like so the little satellite thing

01:23:22 ◼   ► I know it has downlink, but why is that in the menu bar?

01:23:24 ◼   ► Like what does it do for the menu bar? That is how it runs. So it is just a menu bar app

01:23:29 ◼   ► Oh, it has to be open

01:23:31 ◼   ► All right, fine fine fine fine because I knew it did the wallpaper thing

01:23:36 ◼   ► But I didn't know that had to be open for that. Yeah, cuz it downloads new images

01:23:40 ◼   ► I haven't do it every 20 minutes. And so it's got to be running

01:23:42 ◼   ► So it's it's like a menu bar app that makes new wallpapers for you. Very nice

01:23:46 ◼   ► All right settle in for the next two hours because Federico needs to talk to review all the things he has in his menu bar

01:23:52 ◼   ► This is a very busy menu bar that I have right here. So

01:23:57 ◼   ► Okay, so I should say about this menu bar. There's one icon I forgot to hide and there's another

01:24:03 ◼   ► Damn, son, and there's another one. There's another one that I cannot get rid of so starting from the right

01:24:12 ◼   ► time and calendar

01:24:15 ◼   ► control center and

01:24:17 ◼   ► then immediately bartender

01:24:20 ◼   ► There can't be many people in the world

01:24:23 ◼   ► that have

01:24:26 ◼   ► bartender and have so few things visible before bartender.

01:24:30 ◼   ► I just don't want to see anything if I don't need it.

01:24:33 ◼   ► No, no, no. I get it. Like this is no criticism of you, but you must just be in a very small

01:24:37 ◼   ► club of people that want or need bartender, know it exists and then enable it in the way

01:24:43 ◼   ► that you have. You know what I mean? Like it feels like it feels like it is a Mac power

01:24:48 ◼   ► users app of which you are one, even though you don't use it, but you still use the Mac

01:24:54 ◼   ► and you know a lot about the Mac, right?

01:24:56 ◼   ► So you have this application,

01:24:57 ◼   ► but then you also don't want anything else.

01:25:00 ◼   ► I just find that kind of interesting.

01:25:02 ◼   ► -Yeah, so the reason I keep it

01:25:04 ◼   ► is because there's a few extra icons

01:25:06 ◼   ► that I feel like I want to have them there

01:25:09 ◼   ► for quicker access,

01:25:11 ◼   ► but I don't want to see them at all times.

01:25:14 ◼   ► So about this manual, I should say,

01:25:15 ◼   ► Spotlight, I forgot to hide.

01:25:18 ◼   ► I never use it.

01:25:19 ◼   ► So this has already gone in the hidden section of Bartender.

01:25:24 ◼   ► Do you use any kind of quick search thing instead of spotlight?

01:25:28 ◼   ► What's quick search?

01:25:29 ◼   ► You know, like do you use Alfred or Quicksilver?

01:25:33 ◼   ► Yeah, okay.

01:25:33 ◼   ► I use Alfred. I don't use spotlight. Yeah, I use Alfred.

01:25:37 ◼   ► The Plex icon. So I uninstalled Plex, right? Because I plan on using Plex on the

01:25:42 ◼   ► NUC that I bought. But I tried everything. So I have, what's it called? Hazel?

01:25:51 ◼   ► You know when you uninstall apps, it does the cleanup for you?

01:25:55 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:25:55 ◼   ► Where it gets rid of the app files.

01:25:58 ◼   ► So I deleted everything, like all the two Plex apps that I had.

01:26:03 ◼   ► So Plex amp and Plex Media Server.

01:26:07 ◼   ► I deleted those from the applications folder,

01:26:09 ◼   ► and I deleted the related application files.

01:26:12 ◼   ► Then I force quit all of the processes that I could find in Activity Monitor.

01:26:18 ◼   ► I rebooted my Mac Mini.

01:26:20 ◼   ► That icon does not go away.

01:26:22 ◼   ► When you click it...

01:26:23 ◼   ► Is that the one on the very far left?

01:26:25 ◼   ► Is that Plex?

01:26:26 ◼   ► No, that's the...

01:26:28 ◼   ► Oh, it's the little chevron!

01:26:29 ◼   ► It's the little chevron there.

01:26:30 ◼   ► The little chevron.

01:26:31 ◼   ► You click it and it does nothing.

01:26:34 ◼   ► Like, if I click it, it does nothing.

01:26:37 ◼   ► In bartender's settings, I don't see this icon.

01:26:43 ◼   ► So this is a ghost icon that's just hanging there.

01:26:46 ◼   ► And I don't...

01:26:47 ◼   ► If you press command and click and drag it,

01:26:52 ◼   ► it should disappear.

01:26:53 ◼   ► Does it come back?

01:26:54 ◼   ► - And if it's running, it won't.

01:26:55 ◼   ► - No, this is, wait, no, this is not Plex.

01:26:59 ◼   ► It's not Plex.

01:27:00 ◼   ► No, this is a bartender option.

01:27:03 ◼   ► - Oh.

01:27:04 ◼   ► - Oh no, I don't wanna have this here.

01:27:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, you can turn that off.

01:27:09 ◼   ► - So if you hold command--

01:27:10 ◼   ► - This whole time he's been going mad, you know.

01:27:13 ◼   ► - I wasted like five minutes.

01:27:15 ◼   ► It's called hidden item divider and you can uncheck it and it goes away.

01:27:18 ◼   ► Oh no, see what, where, where?

01:27:21 ◼   ► In the bartender general preferences.

01:27:23 ◼   ► That is incredible. See if we wouldn't have done this segment you wouldn't have gotten the answer to this.

01:27:29 ◼   ► You'd live with it forever.

01:27:30 ◼   ► Yeah, you see? Now you're like, now you're happy we did the menu bar segment.

01:27:34 ◼   ► Where is this setting?

01:27:37 ◼   ► Preferences in bartender, it's under general.

01:27:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:27:42 ◼   ► Show hidden item divide. Oh my god, thank you.

01:27:46 ◼   ► Yep.

01:27:47 ◼   ► Ah, so now it's much nicer. Okay, so I am...

01:27:51 ◼   ► Oh, okay, hold on.

01:27:52 ◼   ► Now you're the most happy we did this segment.

01:27:55 ◼   ► Do you remember AppZapper?

01:27:56 ◼   ► Yes.

01:27:57 ◼   ► Yes.

01:27:58 ◼   ► Do you remember that app?

01:27:59 ◼   ► I just thought of that when you were talking about uninstalling.

01:28:01 ◼   ► You'd just drag an app on it, it'd be like pew!

01:28:03 ◼   ► And it would be gone.

01:28:04 ◼   ► With a little Zap Zap, yeah.

01:28:05 ◼   ► That was such a great app.

01:28:07 ◼   ► So this is my new menu bar, okay?

01:28:08 ◼   ► So, after Bartender, there's Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Volume, and Time Machine.

01:28:16 ◼   ► Backblaze. Both of these icons are activated, like they're shown in the main menu bar,

01:28:24 ◼   ► when there's like a change to the icon, like when you're performing a backup or things like that.

01:28:30 ◼   ► Then I have... Okay, so why do I have this Zoom icon?

01:28:36 ◼   ► Because you're on a call.

01:28:38 ◼   ► I don't need this.

01:28:40 ◼   ► Don't quit Zoom, please.

01:28:42 ◼   ► We are revising the menu bar again, so we're hiding the Zoom icon.

01:28:46 ◼   ► Okay, so this is the final version of the menu bar. Hold on.

01:28:50 ◼   ► Are you taking a new screenshot then?

01:28:52 ◼   ► I am taking the final... This is menu bar tchv3_final.

01:28:58 ◼   ► Okay, so this is my final menu bar. Where is it?

01:29:02 ◼   ► Where is it?

01:29:03 ◼   ► Mine is as it was when we did the challenge.

01:29:07 ◼   ► You can't...

01:29:08 ◼   ► Well, I needed some help.

01:29:10 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:29:11 ◼   ► To get it to a place where...

01:29:12 ◼   ► Okay, so there's a time machine back place, and the last one is ExpressVPN.

01:29:17 ◼   ► Sponsor of the show, but I do actually use it for one very specific problem, which is

01:29:24 ◼   ► the website where I purchase my Lossless albums.

01:29:29 ◼   ► not available in Italy therefore I have to use a VPN to buy that music.

01:29:33 ◼   ► Yep, I have these problems all the time where it's like John Sen's an art court and it's

01:29:37 ◼   ► from like the Chicago Tribune and it's like no you can't read that. It's like okay.

01:29:42 ◼   ► Oh but that shortcut looks like the system VPN.

01:29:46 ◼   ► Oh yeah no it's a it is network preferences I guess.

01:29:50 ◼   ► Because I think you can start it from either place.

01:29:52 ◼   ► Yeah but it says but it it says connect ExpressVPN.

01:29:56 ◼   ► Yeah yeah you can.

01:29:58 ◼   ► you can set up either way. I kind of like the system VPN icon and it's been the

01:30:03 ◼   ► same for a really long time. I mean it's kind of fun. I don't know what it is. It

01:30:07 ◼   ► looks like a laser beam. It looks like the top of a truck. Like if you were looking at a truck from above.

01:30:13 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, no I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the panic track scene from above.

01:30:17 ◼   ► Yeah. I don't know. But yeah. That's it. Menu bars. Do you have anything you would

01:30:24 ◼   ► like to say about menu bars anymore Federico? No, not really. Because you had a lot of

01:30:29 ◼   ► opinions about menu bars earlier. Did I have opinions? You did. Maybe you got

01:30:35 ◼   ► them all out. Mostly I had questions. Questions are not opinions. Yeah I suppose.

01:30:39 ◼   ► They're just the start of it, the potential beginning of an opinion.

01:30:44 ◼   ► Oh I like that. Okay. That feels like something you could put on like a poster.

01:30:48 ◼   ► she got a tattoo for that I would be a big tattoo because you said a lot of

01:30:54 ◼   ► things so questions are not opinions they are just a potential beginning of

01:30:58 ◼   ► an opinion that is a huge I know could be a t-shirt well Sylvia is a full poem

01:31:04 ◼   ► on her ribcage so I think it's doable is that what you want so she has a poem

01:31:10 ◼   ► I'm sure means something to her and you want questions and opinions so but they

01:31:16 ◼   ► are just the potential beginning of an opinion. Yeah but if you get it in like

01:31:21 ◼   ► in English it looks more fancy in Italian so all my friends would be like

01:31:25 ◼   ► oh is that the text from a song? So I would have to get it in Italian. It's a

01:31:30 ◼   ► it's an early Death Cab album you haven't heard of it. Pretty much how it

01:31:35 ◼   ► works with tattoos you get them in a different language they look so much

01:31:38 ◼   ► fancier than they actually are. That's why everyone does like Chinese script

01:31:41 ◼   ► for peace on the back of their neck and it really says you know corn dogs sure

01:31:48 ◼   ► I'm sure it says that this has been great yes thank you Myke this was a very

01:31:54 ◼   ► good idea great idea Myke I'm going to check out the clocks app you mentioned

01:31:59 ◼   ► because that's good one it looks way better than the dumb widget in Mac OS

01:32:03 ◼   ► that I will put a link in the show notes because you will not find this in the

01:32:07 ◼   ► App Store if you try searching for okay I've told you that right now it is

01:32:10 ◼   ► impossible just a name of the clock like you're never gonna know if you get the

01:32:15 ◼   ► right one so do they have a iOS app - I think so but it sucks if that's what if

01:32:21 ◼   ► I'm remembering correctly or I could be thinking of a different one it's called

01:32:24 ◼   ► the clock mobile and the clock HD an iPad that's the name they go with HD oh

01:32:30 ◼   ► man I love them all right you know that's like such an old-school thing

01:32:35 ◼   ► maybe this might not be the one that sucks I don't remember I've used so many

01:32:39 ◼   ► of these over time that like I don't remember anymore which are the good

01:32:43 ◼   ► ones and which are the bad ones. I wasn't serious by the way I totally made it up.

01:32:48 ◼   ► Well they do they have something called the clock 4 is on iOS and it's

01:32:51 ◼   ► universal on iOS. Man I'm just watching it now their

01:32:55 ◼   ► preferences pain is a real situation on the back. Yeah it takes a while as well

01:32:59 ◼   ► to get it set up visually to look the way you want like at first they want you

01:33:04 ◼   ► to do way too much so it takes a while to dial it in but it is good once you

01:33:07 ◼   ► get it though. I'm gonna check this out because I have been not really

01:33:12 ◼   ► looking but kind of looking for something that would do this. Anything

01:33:15 ◼   ► else we talk about? Menu bar stuff? I don't think so. Anything else? I have realized now I'm

01:33:21 ◼   ► sitting out here on my iMac because this is my MacBook Pro that I have so many

01:33:25 ◼   ► different things on the iMac. I've clicked the bartender thing and

01:33:29 ◼   ► there's like four things that I wasn't expecting it to be so there you go.

01:33:32 ◼   ► Well that's the thing too, like if I set the clock up then I gotta do it on the

01:33:36 ◼   ► laptop right like yep yep all right well thank you for hanging out with us today

01:33:42 ◼   ► this has been well it's been a lot of fun in the summer stop doing that if you

01:33:48 ◼   ► every show has its individual things if you want to create a game called the

01:33:52 ◼   ► Billy's on upgrade right this is the way you're going it's time for some ask ATP

01:33:57 ◼   ► if you want to find links to the stuff and the apps we spoke about head on over

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01:34:29 ◼   ► for Roboism wherever you get your podcast. If you want to find us online, you can do

01:34:34 ◼   ► so. We're easy to track down. You can find Myke on Twitter as @imyke. Myke, what is something

01:34:40 ◼   ► else that you do?

01:34:42 ◼   ► I sell paper products, notebooks, and journals. Go to cortexmerch.com, check out Theme System

01:34:48 ◼   ► Journal, sell notebook, whatever you want.

01:34:50 ◼   ► You can find Federico on Twitter, @vitiicci, and he's the editor-in-chief of MacStories.net.

01:34:59 ◼   ► Do you have any other editors? John. What is John's title? John is senior editor.

01:35:08 ◼   ► Because he's old? Actually no, I should have said managing editor, I'm sorry. Yeah but I guess the plan is

01:35:18 ◼   ► eventually we would like to have more writers who have just been busy doing other things but it's

01:35:25 ◼   ► definitely in our plans to get some help. You should call him the one true editor.

01:35:33 ◼   ► Also that that's a very good title. That should be his official job title.

01:35:37 ◼   ► But yeah. You could make him get business cards that say that. The one true editor.

01:35:42 ◼   ► Oh my god, one true editor. Make him have it on his email outgoing email signature.

01:35:48 ◼   ► Yep, his Twitter bio. This is the best troll possible. We can make the things

01:35:54 ◼   ► that can make him do. I don't think Federico wants to make a joke of his company, but we'll

01:35:58 ◼   ► just keep pushing him on it.

01:36:00 ◼   ► Yeah, sure.

01:36:01 ◼   ► Federico, how's the review going?

01:36:05 ◼   ► It's going now. I've started writing the iPadOS chapter this week, so it's going well. It's

01:36:11 ◼   ► going, you know, lightweight style, no more philosophical, you know, digressions throughout

01:36:22 ◼   ► the story, it's going well, I'm really happy with it, and the iPadOS chapter is

01:36:27 ◼   ► probably the biggest one of the review, and the fact that I'm moving from

01:36:30 ◼   ► section to section pretty quickly is a good sign.

01:36:33 ◼   ► How many words you out so far?

01:36:35 ◼   ► You know, I don't know that, but I can check. I want to say...

01:36:42 ◼   ► No, I don't want to say anything, let's see...

01:36:45 ◼   ► Yeah, don't want to guess, just give me the answer.

01:36:48 ◼   ► I can give you an answer if you just give me one second what's it called in my

01:36:53 ◼   ► oh there it is okay review let's see I'm just gonna select oh this is gonna take

01:37:01 ◼   ► a while oh no this is way too slow all right you carry on and maybe we put this

01:37:07 ◼   ► in connected pro get a gap connected pro code you want to find out how many

01:37:10 ◼   ► words Federico's written so far thank you for everybody that supports the show

01:37:14 ◼   ► You can find me on Twitter as ismh. I write at fivephilpixels.net and please if you haven't checked out my Kickstarter

01:37:21 ◼   ► I would greatly greatly appreciate you pledging and backing it having a cool wall calendar in your house

01:37:27 ◼   ► What was the domain that we bought for you? Was it Apple hardware calendar.com? You bought it

01:37:32 ◼   ► Yeah, Apple

01:37:35 ◼   ► Yeah, Apple hardware calendar.com. That's where you can go and get the Kickstarter back to Kickstarter

01:37:42 ◼   ► That, uh, my network channel let me visit applehardwarecalendar.com.

01:37:48 ◼   ► What?

01:37:49 ◼   ► Oh, it's an HTTPS thing, and Eero didn't like it.

01:37:53 ◼   ► Yeah, there you go.

01:37:56 ◼   ► Parental controls.

01:37:57 ◼   ► It's a hot calendar.

01:37:59 ◼   ► It is.

01:38:00 ◼   ► There are some hot calendars on Kickstarter.

01:38:02 ◼   ► I keep getting them on my Kickstarter homepage because they're back to yours, so that's something

01:38:07 ◼   ► you've given to everyone.

01:38:09 ◼   ► Thanks, Eero.

01:38:10 ◼   ► You're welcome.

01:38:11 ◼   ► I'm gonna be off next week. I'm gonna miss you all. Oh, yeah a bunch. I look forward to listening

01:38:17 ◼   ► I'm gonna talk about Pokemon and

01:38:19 ◼   ► Los Los audio perfect probably awesome. Okay. There's a strong chance that both of those things will come up because they always do so I

01:38:27 ◼   ► Know so I will miss you all I will miss you dear audience

01:38:30 ◼   ► But until next time say goodbye. How do you that you cheerio? Bye y'all