Connected

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00:00:02 ◼   ► - Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 357.

00:00:13 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by our sponsors,

00:00:15 ◼   ► Instabug, Squarespace, and Smile.

00:00:18 ◼   ► My name is Steven Hackett,

00:00:19 ◼   ► I'm joined by Mr. Federico Vittucci.

00:00:21 ◼   ► - Hello Steven, how are you?

00:00:23 ◼   ► - I am good, Myke is away this week.

00:00:26 ◼   ► We're in the time of year, we're, you know,

00:00:28 ◼   ► doing some light vacationing.

00:00:30 ◼   ► So Myke is taking a week off, it's just me and you.

00:00:33 ◼   ► - And we're gonna talk about weird topics.

00:00:36 ◼   ► - This doc-- - Yes I am.

00:00:37 ◼   ► - This document is maybe the most scattered shot

00:00:41 ◼   ► we've done in a while.

00:00:42 ◼   ► It's just like a bunch of random things

00:00:44 ◼   ► and you came with some stuff and I came with some stuff

00:00:47 ◼   ► and it's gonna be an adventure for all of us.

00:00:51 ◼   ► - Yes, it's gonna be the most adventurous episode

00:00:54 ◼   ► of Connected you've ever listened to.

00:00:56 ◼   ► So, uh, strap in because it's gonna be fun.

00:00:59 ◼   ► Fun in the summer. What would you call that?

00:01:01 ◼   ► I don't know. Somebody should try and, and like come up with a format for that kind of podcast.

00:01:08 ◼   ► The summer of enjoyment, the summer of amusement. I don't know. Steven, we had some follow-up,

00:01:17 ◼   ► specifically it's about you and your Kickstarter for your Apple Event Calendar. So, congrats.

00:01:22 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:01:22 ◼   ► You've been a thousand percent funded.

00:01:25 ◼   ► Yeah, it crossed 1,000% funded in the final hour, so thank you all who pledged. I've been

00:01:33 ◼   ► hard at work on the calendar and am getting ready to have some samples printed and things are moving

00:01:40 ◼   ► full steam ahead, so if you backed that, I really do appreciate it. It went so much bigger than I

00:01:45 ◼   ► ever anticipated and it's going to be an adventure to get them all out the door, but that's, I think,

00:01:49 ◼   ► part of the fun in a weird way. You've been sending me pictures of somebody that you're following who

00:01:54 ◼   ► who I think is doing a Kickstarter,

00:01:55 ◼   ► and they're shipping things, and you're just like,

00:01:57 ◼   ► "This is coming for you."

00:01:58 ◼   ► - Yes, I'm just getting you ready.

00:02:00 ◼   ► Like, I've been sending you pictures of people,

00:02:02 ◼   ► like, preparing boxes and, you know,

00:02:05 ◼   ► shipping things and mailing things,

00:02:07 ◼   ► and I've been sending you a bunch of links and photos

00:02:09 ◼   ► like this, being like, "This is gonna be your life soon."

00:02:11 ◼   ► I just wanna make sure that you're prepared to have,

00:02:15 ◼   ► how many backers is that number publicly?

00:02:19 ◼   ► - 1,100, something. - Wow, okay.

00:02:21 ◼   ► So soon you're gonna be able to tell us what it feels like to mail a thousand things to

00:02:28 ◼   ► people.

00:02:29 ◼   ► Yeah, it was 1,164 backers.

00:02:31 ◼   ► Wow.

00:02:32 ◼   ► It's amazing.

00:02:34 ◼   ► Most people do not mail 1,000 things in a lifetime.

00:02:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:02:39 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure.

00:02:40 ◼   ► And I'm gonna do it in just a few weeks.

00:02:42 ◼   ► Yes.

00:02:43 ◼   ► So if you're a backer, keep an eye out.

00:02:45 ◼   ► I'm gonna be posting regular updates, keeping you informed when they start going out.

00:02:49 ◼   ► So that'll be fun.

00:02:50 ◼   ► Okay, so I'm gonna let you do it because I know this is important to you. Yes. We can talk about the Mac Pro

00:02:57 ◼   ► There are dozens of us who care about this

00:02:59 ◼   ► There's been this rumor that is going to be an updated

00:03:03 ◼   ► Intel Mac Pro before the Apple silicon version comes out and if you read Mark Gurman's very spicy tweet a few minutes ago

00:03:11 ◼   ► It was like there's your new Mac Pro

00:03:13 ◼   ► Apple has announced three new

00:03:18 ◼   ► MPX modules, three new graphic options based on AMD's new

00:03:24 ◼   ► Radeon

00:03:28 ◼   ► I don't know, their new system. I tried reading... do you find that reading about GPUs just as incredibly mind-numbing?

00:03:35 ◼   ► Okay, I just... Oh, yeah. Yeah. So anyways. They all look the same like

00:03:40 ◼   ► Why is the GPU industry so stuck upon like these weird names?

00:03:46 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure that like you know the meme of like two things and the handshake emoji in the middle

00:03:53 ◼   ► It's like Sony and their product names for headphones and then GPUs and the handshake emoji

00:03:59 ◼   ► It's like this is our our DNA to our DNA is the discord has yeah, so it's their new

00:04:07 ◼   ► Whatever that means three new options

00:04:10 ◼   ► the

00:04:12 ◼   ► Radeon Pro W6800X

00:04:15 ◼   ► dual W6800X and the W6900X nice and

00:04:20 ◼   ► You can get them right now when you configure a Mac Pro

00:04:24 ◼   ► But they will be coming as standalone purchases at some point in the near future Apple has done this

00:04:30 ◼   ► Before in fact the GPU that's in my Mac Pro is the I'm looking it up. Why doesn't it say what it is?

00:04:38 ◼   ► it's the

00:04:40 ◼   ► Radeon Pro W5700X this was a GPU that came out

00:04:45 ◼   ► mid-cycle and you could get it built into the machine and then like a few weeks later you could buy it stand alone and I

00:04:50 ◼   ► Bought it and slapped into mine and I've been really happy with it

00:04:53 ◼   ► I don't feel like I have any need to update but if you

00:04:56 ◼   ► Have a Mac Pro and there was some discussion about this in discord earlier. It's like well, why does this matter?

00:05:01 ◼   ► A lot of people who have these professional machines

00:05:03 ◼   ► Their needs change over time and they may need more horsepower for work. They're doing now they weren't doing before

00:05:11 ◼   ► But the other angle is longevity that if you're going to hold on to this machine if you're going to stay in the Intel world

00:05:16 ◼   ► As long as you can you may want to bump up something like this or add more RAM more capacity

00:05:22 ◼   ► So you have more runway in the machine?

00:05:24 ◼   ► For your workload, so sort of standalone units

00:05:29 ◼   ► I'm sure they're going to sell very few, but it will be an option for those who?

00:05:33 ◼   ► Who need it and you know I'm glad Apple is at least doing something

00:05:37 ◼   ► I don't expect much more to come to the Intel Mac Pro

00:05:40 ◼   ► but having new GPUs is them delivering on the promise they made when they

00:05:48 ◼   ► introduced this thing a couple years ago. But you're not gonna get it? No, no, what I

00:05:52 ◼   ► have is perfect for my needs and... What kind of people are... should be

00:05:58 ◼   ► interested in this update? I think... What kind of users? Yeah, I think anyone who is

00:06:02 ◼   ► doing any computation on their GPU where they need more compute units, more memory,

00:06:09 ◼   ► these are obviously better at that. And then if you're doing really high-end 3D

00:06:14 ◼   ► rendering animation that sort of work, I think if you're just cutting videos

00:06:19 ◼   ► together in Final Cut Pro I don't think it's a necessary upgrade. And you

00:06:25 ◼   ► know you could spend money on the Afterburner card if you wanted to. And so

00:06:29 ◼   ► it's really that high-end. I mean if you bought a Mac Pro and you're just editing

00:06:33 ◼   ► podcasts on it, you probably don't need a new video card that's gonna run you

00:06:37 ◼   ► probably four or five grand. Okay and what does this mean for the actual Apple

00:06:45 ◼   ► silicon Mac Pro update? Is this like Apple buying itself some more time to

00:06:51 ◼   ► make sure that like there's still like this GPU spec pump for the Intel Mac Pro

00:06:56 ◼   ► before they can get like an M2 or M2X whatever Mac Pro already lacks here? I

00:07:02 ◼   ► kind of think it is. I think that it does buy them more time and I think it's a

00:07:06 ◼   ► nod to people who invested in this machine that it's not, even though it may be a one

00:07:11 ◼   ► and done in terms of the CPU, that they didn't just completely walk away from it. I mean,

00:07:16 ◼   ► they announced this machine and then, what is it, a year and a half later, like Apple

00:07:22 ◼   ► Silicon is here, so they knew it was coming. And so I think it's also showing those people

00:07:28 ◼   ► that they don't have a debt investment sitting under their desk, at least not yet.

00:07:33 ◼   ► makes sense. Have you started thinking about your strategy for the next Mac Pro?

00:07:38 ◼   ► A little bit. I mean I definitely am very curious all the rumors of the the half

00:07:43 ◼   ► sized and you know what sort of upgradeability that will be available. Of

00:07:50 ◼   ► course I will I want to keep a desktop setup and because I have a Pro Display

00:07:55 ◼   ► XDR like it's a Mac Pro or a Mac Mini and I like having a lot of storage and

00:08:00 ◼   ► like having it all internal.

00:08:02 ◼   ► So I wanna see what it is when it comes out,

00:08:05 ◼   ► but this machine is so great.

00:08:09 ◼   ► Like I don't feel at this point

00:08:11 ◼   ► that I'm gonna be in a rush to move over.

00:08:13 ◼   ► We'll see what happens when it comes out,

00:08:15 ◼   ► you know, mark my words, I guess.

00:08:16 ◼   ► But as far as I can tell you today,

00:08:20 ◼   ► I'm gonna stay on the Mac Pro train,

00:08:21 ◼   ► even after Apple Silicon.

00:08:23 ◼   ► Like I think I would have moved

00:08:24 ◼   ► to whatever that is at some point.

00:08:26 ◼   ► I don't think I'm gonna go back to an iMac.

00:08:28 ◼   ► - I've been thinking about what I wanna do

00:08:30 ◼   ► the Mac Mini and I'm pretty sure that if Apple releases this second generation Apple Silicon

00:08:38 ◼   ► based Mac Mini in late 2021 I am gonna upgrade. I think it's time. Like this rumored Mac Mini

00:08:48 ◼   ► with the M1X, like pro version of the Mac Mini with the M1, I think I'm gonna get it.

00:08:54 ◼   ► If it's like real product and it's coming this year I think that's the computer I'm gonna get.

00:08:58 ◼   ► It feels like this Mac Mini is ready to be taken to a farm upstate,

00:09:04 ◼   ► which will be my beach house in this case,

00:09:06 ◼   ► and replace the Mac Mini on my desk with the new Apple Silicon-based version.

00:09:11 ◼   ► I think it's time.

00:09:12 ◼   ► Yeah, I think that Mac Mini definitely could exist.

00:09:15 ◼   ► Like, it seems like such an obvious product opening,

00:09:20 ◼   ► especially since the Intel One you could really spec out to be really pretty powerful,

00:09:25 ◼   ► at least for a Mac Mini.

00:09:26 ◼   ► And so I can totally see them having two Mac Minis.

00:09:29 ◼   ► They have the M1 that's cheaper,

00:09:31 ◼   ► and then they have sort of an upgraded model

00:09:33 ◼   ► that uses something more powerful.

00:09:34 ◼   ► Maybe it comes in space gray

00:09:35 ◼   ► and they keep the silver for the other one.

00:09:38 ◼   ► But I think that product exists or will exist

00:09:40 ◼   ► as a matter of is it with these MacBook Pros

00:09:43 ◼   ► that are forever right around the corner,

00:09:47 ◼   ► or is it something a little bit later on?

00:09:49 ◼   ► I mean, you could see, right?

00:09:50 ◼   ► You could see the Mac Mini, just like the iMac, right?

00:09:53 ◼   ► There's the entry level,

00:09:54 ◼   ► or like the lower end model is kind of the same

00:09:58 ◼   ► as the MacBook Air, and the upper end model,

00:10:00 ◼   ► so the bigger iMac, and this theoretical faster,

00:10:04 ◼   ► better Mac Mini is kind of like a MacBook Pro inside.

00:10:07 ◼   ► I think the Mac Mini could ride on both of those rails

00:10:10 ◼   ► just the same way that the iMac does.

00:10:12 ◼   ► I think that's easy to understand

00:10:13 ◼   ► for people walking into an Apple store,

00:10:15 ◼   ► especially if they have a color difference between the two.

00:10:19 ◼   ► And so yeah, I think that machine will show up,

00:10:22 ◼   ► and I think it'd be a great option for you

00:10:23 ◼   ► I mean, you're living the Mac Mini lifestyle now,

00:10:26 ◼   ► and moving to Apple Silicon, I think, would be,

00:10:29 ◼   ► I mean, I don't foresee that being any problems

00:10:33 ◼   ► in your setup because you're using Windows

00:10:35 ◼   ► for your weird audio stuff anyways,

00:10:38 ◼   ► so I think you could just move right over

00:10:40 ◼   ► and just see the benefits.

00:10:42 ◼   ► - All right, so moving on,

00:10:43 ◼   ► we also got some other Mac-related news today, Steven.

00:10:48 ◼   ► Apple made the new Magic accessories

00:10:51 ◼   ► that they released with the iMacs a few months ago,

00:10:54 ◼   ► available for standalone purchase.

00:10:56 ◼   ► So that means the new Magic Keyboard with Touch ID,

00:11:00 ◼   ► and the redesigned Magic Trackpad, and the Magic Mouse.

00:11:04 ◼   ► I don't understand, like,

00:11:05 ◼   ► is there anything different about the Magic Mouse?

00:11:08 ◼   ► - I think the side profile is, like, slightly different,

00:11:12 ◼   ► but it's not, it ain't much.

00:11:15 ◼   ► - Like, the Magic Trackpad, you can see that it's got, like,

00:11:18 ◼   ► more rounded shape, which I think looks nice. And obviously the Magic Keyboard has Touch ID,

00:11:24 ◼   ► which is only... can you confirm that it only works on M1 computers? Yes, yes. It will not work.

00:11:31 ◼   ► See, even more reason to stop using this Mac thing that I have. Yeah, I bought my wife a

00:11:39 ◼   ► new keyboard. So she uses a M1 MacBook Air, but always in clamshell mode, like tucked behind an LG

00:11:49 ◼   ► display. And so it's gonna be great for her because she'll be able to use Touch ID when she's at her

00:11:54 ◼   ► desk. And if you use like an M1 Mac Mini or a notebook, you know, maybe it's not even in

00:12:02 ◼   ► clamshell mode, but maybe it's like on a stand up next to your display. It's no fun, like reaching

00:12:07 ◼   ► I'm there trying to hit the button.

00:12:09 ◼   ► - No.

00:12:10 ◼   ► - And so having it just on the desk is gonna be great.

00:12:14 ◼   ► I'm looking, I wish I could do it on my machine.

00:12:17 ◼   ► I would have bought one for myself

00:12:19 ◼   ► if the Intel Mac supported it.

00:12:21 ◼   ► - Same, like I'm so tired of typing in passwords.

00:12:25 ◼   ► And I have this Satechi X1 Slim keyboard.

00:12:30 ◼   ► I actually, now that I think about it,

00:12:31 ◼   ► now that we're talking about this,

00:12:34 ◼   ► I don't know why I'm using this Satechi keyboard anymore.

00:12:37 ◼   ► Because, like, I made this purchase, it was actually very kindly sold to me by a Club

00:12:43 ◼   ► Mac service member, and shipped all the way from Canada.

00:12:46 ◼   ► It took like 40 days to arrive via the Postal Service in Italy.

00:12:51 ◼   ► But I bought this when I thought, "Oh, certainly, iPadOS 15 will introduce some major changes

00:12:58 ◼   ► to external displays."

00:13:00 ◼   ► And so I want to make sure that I'm ready with a keyboard that lets me seamlessly switch

00:13:05 ◼   ► between multiple devices. But then, like, I haven't thought about it in a while, because

00:13:12 ◼   ► then WWDC happened and I started working on the iOS review, but now that I think about

00:13:17 ◼   ► it, why am I using this keyboard? I'm not using the iPad Pro with an external display

00:13:23 ◼   ► anymore because I got tired of waiting for Apple, so I just sort of went back to when

00:13:28 ◼   ► I need to do stuff at my Mac, I'm just gonna use my Mac, but otherwise I'm just working

00:13:34 ◼   ► on the iPad, either as a tablet, like for those times when I just want to hold the iPad

00:13:39 ◼   ► like on the couch or something, but really, I would say 70% of the time I'm just using

00:13:44 ◼   ► the Magic Keyboard, and I'm just looking at the iPad screen, because I got tired of the

00:13:50 ◼   ► pillar boxing and not having real multiple windows on an external display, I got tired

00:13:58 ◼   ► of waiting. When it happens, I will reconsider. So why am I using this keyboard? I don't know.

00:14:04 ◼   ► I should go back to the Magic Keyboard.

00:14:05 ◼   ► You should.

00:14:06 ◼   ► There's no point in doing this.

00:14:07 ◼   ► But the thing is,

00:14:08 ◼   ► are they selling the Compact Magic Keyboard

00:14:11 ◼   ► in Space Gray now?

00:14:12 ◼   ► No, these are all silver.

00:14:15 ◼   ► They're all silver.

00:14:17 ◼   ► And the regular Magic Keyboard,

00:14:20 ◼   ► so like the one that I have here on my desk,

00:14:21 ◼   ► also got a revision, the one without Touch ID,

00:14:24 ◼   ► and it's rounded a little bit,

00:14:26 ◼   ► looks a little bit different.

00:14:28 ◼   ► I should say though too,

00:14:30 ◼   ► that all of these come with lightning,

00:14:33 ◼   ► for charging and the initial sync,

00:14:35 ◼   ► but it now comes with a braided USB-C to Lightning cable,

00:14:40 ◼   ► which is pretty sweet,

00:14:42 ◼   ► because most Macs now just have USB-C,

00:14:45 ◼   ► and so they transitioned this to USB-C to Lightning

00:14:49 ◼   ► and a very nice white cable.

00:14:51 ◼   ► So you could, Federico, get a new Magic Keyboard

00:14:54 ◼   ► with no Touch ID, but it's still just gonna be silver.

00:14:57 ◼   ► Space Gray's gone, and you can't get these

00:14:59 ◼   ► in any of the fun iMac colors either.

00:15:01 ◼   ► - Hold on.

00:15:02 ◼   ► So, okay, okay, hold on.

00:15:03 ◼   ► Let's consider this as a live thing to do on the show.

00:15:07 ◼   ► So, there is a new Magic Keyboard,

00:15:10 ◼   ► but it does not have Touch ID.

00:15:12 ◼   ► Is that the version that I could get?

00:15:14 ◼   ► - That would work with your Intel Mac Mini, yes.

00:15:16 ◼   ► It's $99.

00:15:19 ◼   ► - Okay, I see it.

00:15:20 ◼   ► It's 109 euros.

00:15:22 ◼   ► What's different about it?

00:15:24 ◼   ► Again, it's slightly more rounded.

00:15:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I don't know if it uses a different...

00:15:30 ◼   ► Is there anything different in the key mechanism?

00:15:32 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:15:34 ◼   ► Can we call up Myke in Romania and ask him

00:15:36 ◼   ► about the key mechanism of the Magic Keyboard?

00:15:39 ◼   ► Because the Magic Keyboard in the laptops and the Magic

00:15:42 ◼   ► Keyboard like I have now-- like mine is from 2017 or something.

00:15:45 ◼   ► I've had this one a long time.

00:15:47 ◼   ► They are slightly different.

00:15:48 ◼   ► So I would assume they--

00:15:50 ◼   ► Zach says in Discord it's got the globe key.

00:15:53 ◼   ► Thank you, Zach.

00:15:53 ◼   ► It does.

00:15:53 ◼   ► It has the globe key.

00:15:54 ◼   ► And it has a lock key instead of an eject key.

00:15:57 ◼   ► OK.

00:15:58 ◼   ► Cool.

00:15:58 ◼   ► All good information.

00:15:59 ◼   ► So it is slightly different.

00:16:02 ◼   ► I don't think it's worth like,

00:16:03 ◼   ► if you already have a Magic Keyboard on an Intel machine,

00:16:05 ◼   ► like it's not worth buying this.

00:16:08 ◼   ► - I'm not getting it.

00:16:09 ◼   ► I'm not getting it.

00:16:10 ◼   ► I'm just, I have a bunch of Magic Keyboards.

00:16:12 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:16:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:16:14 ◼   ► Yeah, but even more reason to upgrade to an M1,

00:16:20 ◼   ► whatever, based.

00:16:23 ◼   ► - Touch ID.

00:16:26 ◼   ► - Touch ID.

00:16:26 ◼   ► Compatible Mac Mini.

00:16:29 ◼   ► Since he's gone, can we talk about Myke taping his keyboard to the underside of his desk for Touch ID?

00:16:34 ◼   ► I saw that photo. What's going on?

00:16:37 ◼   ► So is that a real thing that he did? I thought it was just like a thing he said he was going to do.

00:16:42 ◼   ► No, he did it.

00:16:43 ◼   ► But you know, Myke says many things.

00:16:44 ◼   ► I know, yeah. He's a big talker.

00:16:46 ◼   ► But he has that yellow iMac that he bought, and he uses his fancy mechanical gamer keyboards.

00:16:53 ◼   ► And so he Velcroed, or double-sided tape or something,

00:16:57 ◼   ► the yellow magic keyboard that came with the iMac to the underside of his desk

00:17:01 ◼   ► where he can just reach his finger under there

00:17:03 ◼   ► and hit the touch ID button.

00:17:05 ◼   ► That's a life hack if you've ever seen one.

00:17:09 ◼   ► I mean it's kind of genius though, right?

00:17:11 ◼   ► Like you can just hold your finger under your desk, it's like a secret button.

00:17:15 ◼   ► You know how in the movies like the, there's the bad guy and he presses a button under his desk

00:17:20 ◼   ► and like a hole opens and you fall into like the sewers or something?

00:17:26 ◼   ► You know, like in the... you fall into the underground prison, for example.

00:17:30 ◼   ► It's kind of like that. You press a button and it's like a trap for your office.

00:17:36 ◼   ► I love it. I love the placement of the keyboard under his desk. That's perfect.

00:17:41 ◼   ► What if the folks at iFixit took this apart and managed to just make the Touch ID button work without the keyboard?

00:17:53 ◼   ► That'd be great.

00:17:54 ◼   ► Like what if you could figure out a way to just have a touch ID button that you could

00:17:58 ◼   ► put on your desk?

00:17:59 ◼   ► That'd be fantastic.

00:18:01 ◼   ► I mean I guess it's technically possible, right?

00:18:03 ◼   ► If you know, if you know like in the in the circuit board and the chips what's going where,

00:18:12 ◼   ► right?

00:18:13 ◼   ► I mean you keep it connected to Bluetooth.

00:18:17 ◼   ► I feel like you need a lot of the inside of the keyboard.

00:18:21 ◼   ► I feel, maybe, maybe.

00:18:23 ◼   ► What if instead of that, you had your desk and you like routed out, like the wood of

00:18:29 ◼   ► your desk, like at an angle.

00:18:32 ◼   ► So the keyboard was like in the desk, but the only key that was visible at the surface

00:18:35 ◼   ► was the touch ID button.

00:18:37 ◼   ► And the rest was just like hidden by the top of the desk.

00:18:41 ◼   ► In desk touch ID, it's the future.

00:18:44 ◼   ► Anyway, we should move on because we have a bunch of other topics to talk about.

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00:20:24 ◼   ► Do you see this big Jeremy news?

00:20:27 ◼   ► Jeremy is now a millionaire, I assume, but this is what it means.

00:20:32 ◼   ► So Emojipedia got sold.

00:20:34 ◼   ► Emojipedia was acquired by a smartphone company called Zedge.

00:20:42 ◼   ► Is that how you would say this, Steven?

00:20:44 ◼   ► That's how I would see it.

00:20:46 ◼   ► It is the number one phone personalization app in the world.

00:20:50 ◼   ► - Okay, well I never heard of it before,

00:20:53 ◼   ► but I mean I'm going to the website

00:20:54 ◼   ► and I see it's one of those apps

00:20:56 ◼   ► like that's got like wallpaper packs, custom icons,

00:21:00 ◼   ► you know that sort of stuff it seems

00:21:02 ◼   ► and they do ringtones, live wallpapers.

00:21:05 ◼   ► It seems like they're more popular on Android.

00:21:07 ◼   ► You know this kind of utility makes more sense on Android

00:21:10 ◼   ► where you have deeper customization for the UI.

00:21:12 ◼   ► So I think it makes more sense there.

00:21:14 ◼   ► But yeah, Emojipedia started in 2013?

00:21:17 ◼   ► Is that when Emojipedia started?

00:21:22 ◼   ► I wanna say it's 2013.

00:21:24 ◼   ► - I think that's when Emojipedia started, yeah.

00:21:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's been around for a while now.

00:21:28 ◼   ► And it's now part of the--

00:21:30 ◼   ► - Zedge was founded in 2003.

00:21:32 ◼   ► - Oh wow, okay.

00:21:34 ◼   ► So it's kinda like before smartphones were a thing even.

00:21:37 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:21:38 ◼   ► - And they are the new owners of Emojipedia.

00:21:41 ◼   ► And for now, obviously, as with a lot of these acquisitions,

00:21:44 ◼   ► it seems like Emojipedia will continue to operate.

00:21:47 ◼   ► So there will still be a website,

00:21:49 ◼   ► there will still be the Emojipedia previews

00:21:53 ◼   ► of the new Emoji and the Emoji draft,

00:21:57 ◼   ► all the things that we know and love about Emojipedia.

00:22:00 ◼   ► Hopefully, it's always a concern

00:22:03 ◼   ► when companies got acquired

00:22:04 ◼   ► that they only stick around for a while.

00:22:06 ◼   ► And initially, it seems like everything is going as before

00:22:09 ◼   ► and then changes happen.

00:22:11 ◼   ► And now, I mean, obviously changes are gonna happen

00:22:14 ◼   ► to Emojipedia, right?

00:22:15 ◼   ► But hopefully not too much,

00:22:17 ◼   ► and hopefully this will continue to be like the source

00:22:19 ◼   ► for keeping track of the history of Emoji,

00:22:22 ◼   ► because it's really quite a comprehensive database

00:22:24 ◼   ► that they have.

00:22:25 ◼   ► I mean, it's really incredible,

00:22:26 ◼   ► all the different versions of Emoji

00:22:28 ◼   ► that they are documenting on Emojipedia.

00:22:30 ◼   ► So it'll be a shame if the entire archive of Emojipedia

00:22:36 ◼   ► were to not be supported anymore.

00:22:39 ◼   ► So congrats to, I mean Jeremy is a friend,

00:22:42 ◼   ► so congrats to Jeremy, we are really happy.

00:22:44 ◼   ► - Definitely.

00:22:45 ◼   ► - That, you know, this is a big deal,

00:22:47 ◼   ► it's a big milestone, and Jeremy,

00:22:50 ◼   ► if you wanna, you know, leave everything behind

00:22:53 ◼   ► and enjoy your millions of dollars on your boat,

00:22:56 ◼   ► we will also understand that, it's also fine.

00:22:59 ◼   ► So we will not fault you for doing that in the future.

00:23:03 ◼   ► We still love you.

00:23:04 ◼   ► - I have some personal news.

00:23:06 ◼   ► How personal?

00:23:07 ◼   ► - I spoke to Jeremy today about the naming of the Jeremy's.

00:23:12 ◼   ► I've decided, in no way part of the cash deal

00:23:16 ◼   ► that I made on the side, that we will continue

00:23:18 ◼   ► to call that game the Jeremy's

00:23:20 ◼   ► in honor of our fallen friend.

00:23:22 ◼   ► - Wow, fallen friend.

00:23:24 ◼   ► Yeah, that's a--

00:23:25 ◼   ► - No, this is awesome.

00:23:27 ◼   ► I'm super happy for Jeremy and the team,

00:23:29 ◼   ► and I don't think he would do anything

00:23:30 ◼   ► to hurt the future of Emojipedia,

00:23:33 ◼   ► so I expect that it has a bright future ahead of it.

00:23:35 ◼   ► Yes, congrats Jeremy and everyone else involved. We're still gonna play our game. We still love guessing the emoji.

00:23:43 ◼   ► So, congrats Jeremy, well done.

00:23:46 ◼   ► YouTube Premium Lite. What is this?

00:23:52 ◼   ► So is it premium or is it lite? No, it's premium lite.

00:23:56 ◼   ► It's premium lite.

00:23:57 ◼   ► This is a new tier of YouTube Premium that is cheaper than YouTube Premium proper.

00:24:02 ◼   ► In fact, it's called Light. So it's not $11.99 a month, it's $6.99 a month being tested in Europe.

00:24:10 ◼   ► Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden.

00:24:14 ◼   ► Very specific parts of Europe.

00:24:16 ◼   ► Very specific markets. So I guess the difference here is that, so this is YouTube Premium, but what you do not get,

00:24:23 ◼   ► So you still get ad-free, you know, the mobile apps, smart TVs, YouTube Kids, all that stuff.

00:24:32 ◼   ► You do not get the benefits of YouTube Music, so you cannot listen to music ad-free, and

00:24:39 ◼   ► you do not get any background playback feature in the main YouTube app for video.

00:24:47 ◼   ► And also you do not get offline downloads.

00:24:50 ◼   ► So it's YouTube Premium without downloads.

00:24:53 ◼   ► playback and add free music listening. I have to assume, like I haven't seen this

00:24:59 ◼   ► mentioned anywhere, and it's still a feature in testing, I suppose. I do not

00:25:03 ◼   ► have it, but I assume the picture-in-picture will not be part of this

00:25:09 ◼   ► either. So, because it's technically background playback, I assume the

00:25:15 ◼   ► picture-in-picture, whenever it launches in YouTube for everyone, it will not be

00:25:21 ◼   ► available to Premium Lite. That would be my assumption.

00:25:24 ◼   ► Yeah, that's how I read it too. I do have Picture in Picture. I pay for YouTube Premium.

00:25:28 ◼   ► Really?

00:25:29 ◼   ► Yeah, and it's great. It's so good.

00:25:32 ◼   ► No need to mention that. I know. I keep checking every single day and it's not here.

00:25:37 ◼   ► Yeah, it's really good. I've paid for YouTube Premium for several years now

00:25:41 ◼   ► for the ad-free experience. Myke and Jason spoke about YouTube Premium a couple weeks ago,

00:25:46 ◼   ► and yeah, I watch, you know, quite a bit of YouTube, and so I like the ad-free experience,

00:25:50 ◼   ► and the background playback is really nice too,

00:25:54 ◼   ► especially if you're just like listening to something

00:25:56 ◼   ► and picture in picture just makes that even better.

00:25:59 ◼   ► So yeah, if you're in Luxembourg,

00:26:01 ◼   ► I guess try this out and let us know what you think.

00:26:03 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:26:04 ◼   ► - I think we have listeners in Luxembourg.

00:26:05 ◼   ► I bet we got a couple.

00:26:06 ◼   ► - I'm sure we do.

00:26:07 ◼   ► We have listeners everywhere.

00:26:09 ◼   ► - If you were listening in Luxembourg, please let us know.

00:26:12 ◼   ► - I've thought about this, like, you know,

00:26:15 ◼   ► I don't listen to music on YouTube.

00:26:17 ◼   ► I could switch to this.

00:26:18 ◼   ► offline downloads, I mean, I haven't been on a plane and having to download YouTube

00:26:23 ◼   ► videos for offline usage in forever at this point. I could potentially switch to this,

00:26:29 ◼   ► but then I realized, oh, picture-in-picture will likely not be part of this, and once

00:26:34 ◼   ► I get it, I am going to need picture-in-picture for all kinds of YouTube video consumption

00:26:40 ◼   ► that I do. Because a lot of YouTube videos from a lot of creators, you can leave them

00:26:47 ◼   ► in the background and you can do something else, right? Have you seen, Steven, this thread

00:26:52 ◼   ► on Twitter a few days ago? Someone retweeted it in my timeline, and it was essentially

00:27:00 ◼   ► about this person on Twitter having this super long thread about, like, "Here's something

00:27:07 ◼   ► I've realized about how creators are gaming the YouTube algorithm to make longer videos

00:27:14 ◼   ► and have you stick around, and I'm going to explain that to you in a thread.

00:27:18 ◼   ► But before I get to that, let me tell you this other thing.

00:27:21 ◼   ► And it was basically like the thread version of a lot of YouTube videos, where they say

00:27:26 ◼   ► 100 words just to explain 10 words, which is the core concept.

00:27:31 ◼   ► And that is because they need to make it longer so that people stick around more and watch

00:27:35 ◼   ► a longer video, therefore it feels like there's more engagement for the algorithm and all

00:27:40 ◼   ► of that.

00:27:41 ◼   ► Twitter thread was exhausting to read, because it was literally styled in the sense of "Oh,

00:27:47 ◼   ► but before I get to that, let me tell you this other thing." And why is that? Because,

00:27:51 ◼   ► as I told you before, like, it was so verbose and done in the style of so many videos on

00:27:59 ◼   ► YouTube these days. Like, whenever I watch headphone reviews, for example, on YouTube,

00:28:05 ◼   ► Those reviews could be condensed to five minutes, and instead they are twenty-five minutes.

00:28:12 ◼   ► And I understand why, and I love those creators, but those are videos that I could easily put

00:28:16 ◼   ► in the background and watch with picture-in-picture, because there's a lot of repetition and highlighting

00:28:25 ◼   ► the same concept multiple times to make a longer video.

00:28:30 ◼   ► And so I'm not complaining against those creators.

00:28:33 ◼   ► I understand it's necessary because the algorithms, you know, it's hanging over all of them.

00:28:39 ◼   ► And I understand.

00:28:40 ◼   ► But that is also why I want Picture-in-Picture.

00:28:43 ◼   ► Because those are the kinds of videos that I just want to put them on in the background.

00:28:48 ◼   ► I don't need to pay close attention to them.

00:28:51 ◼   ► Right.

00:28:52 ◼   ► And especially on the iPad, Picture-in-Picture is so great for note-taking and research purposes.

00:28:58 ◼   ► It's fine on the iPhone.

00:28:59 ◼   ► And even on the Pro Max, picture-in-picture feels a little cramped, but I've really enjoyed

00:29:03 ◼   ► it on my iPad Pro.

00:29:05 ◼   ► I use it on the iPhone for Twitch.

00:29:07 ◼   ► It's like you make it small and you can still follow along to a stream.

00:29:12 ◼   ► I do that for Myke's keyboards sometimes.

00:29:14 ◼   ► Yeah, I put him in a little box.

00:29:15 ◼   ► Yeah, I put him in a little box and he stays there, you know, soldering stuff, building

00:29:20 ◼   ► keyboards.

00:29:21 ◼   ► It's fun.

00:29:22 ◼   ► It's cute.

00:29:23 ◼   ► It's Myke in a little corner.

00:29:24 ◼   ► All right.

00:29:25 ◼   ► So, uh, Steven, I have a fun topic for you.

00:29:30 ◼   ► It's about Nintendo, it's about sideloading, it's about emulators, it's got it all, there's

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00:31:45 ◼   ► Parts of this conversation were held before on remaster, connected with Myke when you were not around,

00:31:55 ◼   ► but that was the beginning of this problem. Now the problem has evolved, and the problem has turned,

00:32:02 ◼   ► as with many things that involved me, into a whole thing. So I'm gonna need to contextualize things

00:32:09 ◼   ► for you, Steven, because I don't think you are as well in tune with certain Nintendo news.

00:32:16 ◼   ► No. So there's this Nintendo series called Metroid. Right. Okay, it's about this space

00:32:23 ◼   ► explorer. Yeah. You know, she needs to explore planets and kill monsters. Now, it's a long stand

00:32:34 ◼   ► and I'm... this is a super simplified description of it. Anyway, there's a new Metroid game coming

00:32:39 ◼   ► to the Nintendo Switch in October, called "Metroid Dread". And it took everybody by surprise, because

00:32:45 ◼   ► it's, uh, like, everybody kind of felt that Nintendo had forgotten about Metroid. And so when they

00:32:54 ◼   ► announced Dread, everyone was like, "Oh, wow, okay, that's amazing." And a bunch of people, including

00:33:02 ◼   ► myself, thought, "Well, it's coming out in October, so maybe the summer could be a good opportunity to

00:33:07 ◼   ► revisit older Metroid games, because this one is gonna be the official, like, fifth installment in

00:33:13 ◼   ► the Metroid series, you know, picking up where previous games left off. And so a bunch of people

00:33:18 ◼   ► thought, "Well, it'd be kind of fun to start playing old Metroid games again, starting from the first

00:33:23 ◼   ► one up until the fourth one, in preparation for the new one coming out on the Switch." And I had the

00:33:29 ◼   ► same idea, right? And so the Metroid 1 came out on the first slide, on the NES in the 80s.

00:33:37 ◼   ► It's not a good game to play these days, you know? It's a very old NES video game. But Nintendo

00:33:48 ◼   ► did a remake of this game about 15 years ago on the Game Boy Advance, with new graphics,

00:33:56 ◼   ► new sounds, new updated gameplay, called Metroid Zero Mission.

00:34:02 ◼   ► So Zero Mission is the remake of the first Metroid.

00:34:05 ◼   ► If you've never played Metroid before, you can start there.

00:34:07 ◼   ► It's got better graphics, it's more playable, it's more approachable than an NES game.

00:34:12 ◼   ► A couple of months ago, I called my mom.

00:34:15 ◼   ► My mom is moving between houses, so she's packing a lot of boxes, a lot of games.

00:34:20 ◼   ► I was like "Hey, mom, can you please find this game for me?"

00:34:23 ◼   ► So it was a whole thing. She found all my old GBA games, and among those games she found my cartridge

00:34:30 ◼   ► of Metroid Zero Mission for the GBA that I bought in 2003, 2004, when I was 15 or 16 or something.

00:34:39 ◼   ► And so I started playing this game on the GBA. One of the many things that I

00:34:46 ◼   ► obsess about is having... I mean, Steven, of all people you can understand this. I have every

00:34:54 ◼   ► Nintendo console in a playable state in my house. Like, I have the original hardware for everything

00:35:00 ◼   ► at this point. Just because I feel like if I want to play an old game, I should be able to do that

00:35:06 ◼   ► on original functioning hardware. And that over the years has meant, you know, changing the batteries,

00:35:12 ◼   ► fixing the screen, buying a new Nintendo GameCube, you know, finding my Nintendo Wii U again.

00:35:21 ◼   ► It's something I care about, because I care about Nintendo and I want to have original

00:35:24 ◼   ► hardware.

00:35:25 ◼   ► So I start playing Zero Mission on a Game Boy Advance, and it took me one night to start

00:35:33 ◼   ► feeling this pain on my wrists.

00:35:38 ◼   ► Because I, you know, the Game Boy Advance is very small in console, and my hands are

00:35:44 ◼   ► not as small as they used to be, I guess.

00:35:47 ◼   ► Or I simply got older, and now my hands cannot stand, you know, being in that fixed position

00:35:54 ◼   ► for several hours straight.

00:35:56 ◼   ► I woke up the next morning and my wrists were hurting, both of them.

00:36:00 ◼   ► I was like, "Eh, well, maybe that's not a good sign."

00:36:04 ◼   ► So I cannot play in the GBA.

00:36:07 ◼   ► So I thought, well, of all the Nintendo consoles that I have, I also have an old Nintendo DS.

00:36:14 ◼   ► The Nintendo DS, you can put a GBA cartridge in, and you can play GBA games on a Nintendo

00:36:19 ◼   ► DS.

00:36:20 ◼   ► And for those asking in the chatroom, Justin, I do not have a Virtual Boy, unfortunately,

00:36:25 ◼   ► never had a Virtual Boy, and Zach, I tried both the original GBA form factor as well

00:36:31 ◼   ► as the SP, which is the clamshell version of the GBA that I did.

00:36:36 ◼   ► I did not try in the GBA micro, because I mean...

00:36:40 ◼   ► That's not gonna help, right?

00:36:41 ◼   ► That's the wrong direction.

00:36:43 ◼   ► That's the wrong direction for me.

00:36:45 ◼   ► But yes, I also have a GBA micro.

00:36:47 ◼   ► So the DS, I thought, well, the DS, slightly bigger than a GBA, better screen, you know,

00:36:54 ◼   ► the backlit is better than the GBA, I could play that in compatibility mode.

00:36:59 ◼   ► So I continued the game on the DS, and I tried that for a couple nights, make good progress

00:37:05 ◼   ► on the game. And same problem occurs. A few days later, my hands were hurting, my fingers

00:37:11 ◼   ► were all weird, and my wrists were hurting, and I needed to write the review, and I thought,

00:37:16 ◼   ► you know, I need my hands, especially in the summer. Because my hands are like the primary

00:37:24 ◼   ► tool of my job. And I cannot afford to not being able to type in the summer. But also,

00:37:31 ◼   ► "Man, I really wanted to play Metroid." Right? So I kept digging and digging down further into the rabbit hole.

00:37:38 ◼   ► I thought, "Well, okay." So I know that I've put a bunch of progress into this GBA cartridge,

00:37:45 ◼   ► but what if I take the old Nintendo Wii U, which is the console that came before the Nintendo Switch?

00:37:53 ◼   ► The Nintendo Wii U, you can still use the Nintendo eShop on it,

00:38:00 ◼   ► and the Nintendo Wii U, unlike the Nintendo Switch, as a virtual console.

00:38:05 ◼   ► So the virtual console is the initiative that Nintendo used to do of, like, you could purchase all the Nintendo games

00:38:12 ◼   ► as effectively, like, an official emulator on the Nintendo Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS.

00:38:18 ◼   ► Okay.

00:38:19 ◼   ► And in fact, a lot of people, following the announcement of the new Metroid for Nintendo Switch, had the same idea.

00:38:25 ◼   ► Because I saw a tweet a while back showing like here's what the Nintendo eShop on a Wii U looks like now

00:38:32 ◼   ► Because if you boot it up and if you open the eShop you can still see charts for top selling games on that old console

00:38:39 ◼   ► And basically every Metroid game was in the top charts for the virtual console on the Wii U

00:38:45 ◼   ► Because everybody had the same idea and I thought okay, I'm gonna lose my progress on the cartridge

00:38:52 ◼   ► But the Wii U, it's got a gamepad, which is much bigger, much more comfortable for my hands.

00:38:59 ◼   ► It's like a chunky, thick Nintendo Switch, basically.

00:39:03 ◼   ► What if I start playing the game from scratch, which is gonna suck, because I was like two or three hours into the game.

00:39:09 ◼   ► But what if I start playing on the Wii U, and it's probably not gonna destroy my hands?

00:39:15 ◼   ► So I did a whole thing, right?

00:39:17 ◼   ► I needed to find, because I didn't have enough HDMI ports in my TV to accommodate both the Nintendo Switch and the Wii U,

00:39:26 ◼   ► so I found an HDMI, what's it called, like switch on Amazon.

00:39:31 ◼   ► It's like a little thing that from one HDMI port it gives you two.

00:39:36 ◼   ► Right? And I bought it and it works beautifully.

00:39:40 ◼   ► It even, like, auto switches between consoles depending on the signal when the console turns on. Super nicely done.

00:39:46 ◼   ► So I set it up in the back of my TV was a whole thing

00:39:49 ◼   ► Stop start playing on the Wii U. I was like, oh wow, this is much better. My hands are okay. It's not hurting

00:39:55 ◼   ► I love it. I'm gonna play on the Wii U. We talked about this on connected and on remaster, I think

00:39:59 ◼   ► the thing is

00:40:02 ◼   ► Emulation for Metroid Zero Mission on the Virtual Console is

00:40:07 ◼   ► Terrible. Is it like that slow or laggy? Like why is it bad? No, it's laggy

00:40:12 ◼   ► the frame rate is all over the place.

00:40:14 ◼   ► Oh, man.

00:40:15 ◼   ► Like, you can see the game dropping frames when you jump.

00:40:19 ◼   ► I was like, "Oh, no. This is no way to play a game."

00:40:22 ◼   ► No.

00:40:23 ◼   ► I cannot do this. This is terrible.

00:40:26 ◼   ► The only nice thing about it,

00:40:28 ◼   ► I mean, besides the fact that it was on the Wii U

00:40:30 ◼   ► and it was more comfortable,

00:40:32 ◼   ► was that the Virtual Console supports custom save states,

00:40:37 ◼   ► Meaning, you can save the game without being at a checkpoint in the game.

00:40:44 ◼   ► Because it's an emulator, right?

00:40:45 ◼   ► So you can create a save point anywhere.

00:40:48 ◼   ► It's like this, there's like this custom UI on top of it that lets you save your progress

00:40:52 ◼   ► anywhere.

00:40:53 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like saving like a virtual machine, right?

00:40:54 ◼   ► Like you just do it at any point and you're done.

00:40:58 ◼   ► Any point and you can save.

00:40:59 ◼   ► And it's better for like modern times, right?

00:41:01 ◼   ► Because I mean, I'm an adult.

00:41:03 ◼   ► Yes, I love playing video games, but also my video game time is very limited these days.

00:41:08 ◼   ► So this kind of feature is welcome.

00:41:10 ◼   ► But that emulation was horrible. Like, it was genuinely terrible.

00:41:14 ◼   ► And so I was very sad for a few days, until earlier this week.

00:41:21 ◼   ► I think it was Saturday or Sunday.

00:41:24 ◼   ► I sat down, started doing my research, and I realized, okay.

00:41:30 ◼   ► If I want to do this, I want to play Metroid games with a system that lets me save anywhere

00:41:40 ◼   ► and is always with me, and emulation is good enough, and my hands are not going to kill

00:41:45 ◼   ► me, I'm going to have to go with the emulation route on the iPhone.

00:41:51 ◼   ► I'm going to have to install a Nintendo, a GBA emulator on the iPhone.

00:41:56 ◼   ► So I came up with two solutions, but I'm sticking with one of them.

00:42:01 ◼   ► The first one is an emulator that is really well known called Provenance.

00:42:08 ◼   ► Now Provenance is an emulator for a bunch of Nintendo consoles as well as old Atari

00:42:13 ◼   ► consoles, like the Lynx and the Jaguar, the Bandai Wonderswan and Wonderswan Color, the

00:42:22 ◼   ► Sega, Master System, Mega Drive, but you know, for all that concerned me was, can it play

00:42:27 ◼   ► GBA, Super Nintendo, and Nintendo 64 games? And the answer is yes. So Provenance, it's

00:42:34 ◼   ► very well known, you can install it on the iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV. The thing is,

00:42:39 ◼   ► the installation process, it's a bit convoluted. Yeah, I'm reading this page as you're speaking,

00:42:43 ◼   ► it's like, oh, this is a lot of things to jump through. Yes. So the thing is, you gotta

00:42:48 ◼   ► clone the repo using the terminal, which is fine, it's like a single command.

00:42:53 ◼   ► The thing is then you gotta open the Xcode workspace using Xcode and you gotta switch

00:42:59 ◼   ► all settings related to targets and signing certificates, so make sure that you have a

00:43:05 ◼   ► developer account, make sure that you follow the step-by-step procedure to the letter,

00:43:11 ◼   ► otherwise the build will fail, and eventually you can build and run and you can install

00:43:15 ◼   ► Provenance on your iPhone, and if you have a developer account, like a paid developer

00:43:19 ◼   ► account, that app will stay installed with a signing certificate for a year.

00:43:26 ◼   ► So that took me like an hour to figure out, but I have Provenance installed.

00:43:31 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:43:32 ◼   ► Metroid plays well.

00:43:34 ◼   ► It plays much, much better than the Virtual Console from Nintendo itself.

00:43:38 ◼   ► You have it on your phone?

00:43:39 ◼   ► I have it on my phone.

00:43:40 ◼   ► Okay.

00:43:41 ◼   ► I'm looking at it.

00:43:42 ◼   ► You can use MI5 controllers with it.

00:43:44 ◼   ► That's what I was going to ask.

00:43:45 ◼   ► use controllers? Yes, you can. You can use controllers. It's got

00:43:50 ◼   ► custom save points. The UI is not beautiful in provenance. It's very

00:43:56 ◼   ► functional, but it gets the job done. However, what I think I'm gonna stick

00:44:00 ◼   ► with is something that a lot of people have been doing for a while, that I did

00:44:06 ◼   ► in the past and then stopped doing, but now I realize this is the thing for me.

00:44:11 ◼   ► I'm gonna sideload using Alt Store. So Alt Store is this alternative app store

00:44:18 ◼   ► made by Riley Tested, a really great guy, has been running Alt Store for the past

00:44:24 ◼   ► couple of years, and it's effectively like this alternative app store that

00:44:28 ◼   ► lets you sideload apps from your Mac or a Windows PC on your iPhone or iPad. Now

00:44:35 ◼   ► Now, the installation procedure there is also quite convoluted.

00:44:43 ◼   ► You've got to have a developer account.

00:44:45 ◼   ► You've got to install a mail plug-in in Apple Mail

00:44:48 ◼   ► for Mac that sort of handles the bridging between your computer

00:44:54 ◼   ► and the iPhone.

00:44:56 ◼   ► But once you do, you end up with this old store

00:44:59 ◼   ► app on your device.

00:45:01 ◼   ► And by the way, for all those complaining,

00:45:03 ◼   ► making piracy jokes in the Discord.

00:45:06 ◼   ► This is not like me saying piracy is good,

00:45:10 ◼   ► although there's an argument to be

00:45:11 ◼   ► made about what role piracy plays

00:45:14 ◼   ► in video game preservation.

00:45:15 ◼   ► But I digress.

00:45:17 ◼   ► That's another topic for another time.

00:45:20 ◼   ► I have physical copies of all the games I'm going to play.

00:45:24 ◼   ► I even have Metroid Prime trilogy for the Wii.

00:45:28 ◼   ► I have it all, man.

00:45:29 ◼   ► I got all the games I want to play.

00:45:31 ◼   ► It's just that Nintendo is silly.

00:45:33 ◼   ► Anyway, Outstore has an emulator called Delta, also made by

00:45:38 ◼   ► Raritested, that lets you play GBA, Game Boy Color, Super

00:45:42 ◼   ► Nintendo, and even Nintendo DS games on your iPhone.

00:45:47 ◼   ► And the thing is, Delta has excellent performance, and

00:45:51 ◼   ► it's beautiful.

00:45:53 ◼   ► Delta is a really pretty emulator that supports both

00:45:57 ◼   ► Portrait mode on the iPhone, Landscape mode, and MI5 controllers.

00:46:04 ◼   ► I started playing Metroid with Delta, and I love it.

00:46:08 ◼   ► I love it because performance is like, it feels like playing the original game.

00:46:11 ◼   ► I haven't seen any issue related to frame rate or choppy animations like I saw in the

00:46:16 ◼   ► Virtual Console.

00:46:18 ◼   ► What I like about it is that I can choose to play in Landscape with the controller,

00:46:22 ◼   ► or I can play in Portrait mode.

00:46:24 ◼   ► And you can choose these custom skins that you can install in Delta that sort of make

00:46:29 ◼   ► your iPhone screen look like a Game Boy.

00:46:32 ◼   ► It's really nicely done, and you can install some real pretty skins.

00:46:36 ◼   ► And when you play—I love playing in portrait mode because it feels like I'm holding a Game

00:46:39 ◼   ► Boy—and when you press the buttons in Delta, like the D-pad or the A and B buttons, you

00:46:46 ◼   ► get haptic feedback.

00:46:48 ◼   ► It's really... it's like, after a while, you stop paying attention to the fact that you're

00:46:54 ◼   ► emulating a Nintendo Game Boy, and it feels like you're pressing buttons on a Game Boy,

00:46:59 ◼   ► thanks to the Taptic Engine on the iPhone.

00:47:02 ◼   ► It's really well done.

00:47:04 ◼   ► And it's so pretty.

00:47:06 ◼   ► Like I'm gonna send you a screenshot, Steven.

00:47:09 ◼   ► So I started playing last night.

00:47:10 ◼   ► I played for like two hours.

00:47:13 ◼   ► And I'm catching up to where I used to be in the cartridge.

00:47:16 ◼   ► And I played with my Backbone controller, which is this really well-done MI5 controller

00:47:22 ◼   ► for iPhone that plugs in, it's got like this Nintendo Switch-like design, plugs into the

00:47:28 ◼   ► Lightning port, and it's got like this split design with one half on the left side and

00:47:34 ◼   ► the other half of the controller on the right side of the iPhone.

00:47:38 ◼   ► Played for a couple of hours, it's fine, but guess what?

00:47:42 ◼   ► My hands were hurting.

00:47:43 ◼   ► No.

00:47:44 ◼   ► You're just getting old, man.

00:47:46 ◼   ► That's what it comes down to.

00:47:48 ◼   ► But, thanks to my excellent research skills,

00:47:52 ◼   ► I think I've found the final sort of solution that works for me.

00:47:59 ◼   ► I'm going to send you the link. It's in the show notes.

00:48:02 ◼   ► This thing is called the PowerA MoGaClip for Xbox controllers.

00:48:08 ◼   ► So, you take an Xbox controller,

00:48:11 ◼   ► you buy this little thing that costs $15,

00:48:14 ◼   ► and you snap it on on the controller

00:48:16 ◼   ► and then you put your phone inside of the clip

00:48:19 ◼   ► it's like a little cradle for your iPhone

00:48:21 ◼   ► yeah it's like if you've seen

00:48:23 ◼   ► maybe they still do this but like a lot of drone controllers

00:48:27 ◼   ► do this or use your phone as the viewfinder

00:48:29 ◼   ► but you have like analog sticks to fly

00:48:31 ◼   ► the thing is I know the Xbox controller

00:48:34 ◼   ► Xbox controller is fine for my hands

00:48:37 ◼   ► doesn't hurt me

00:48:39 ◼   ► Xbox controller doesn't hurt me, doesn't want me dead

00:48:42 ◼   ► It's fine. It's not gonna hurt me. I know that.

00:48:45 ◼   ► I'm gonna say something that potentially upsets quite a few people.

00:48:48 ◼   ► I prefer the ergonomics of the Xbox controller to the DualShock.

00:48:52 ◼   ► Or should I say the DualSense on PS5?

00:48:55 ◼   ► They changed the name.

00:48:57 ◼   ► The DualSense, the only thing it's got going for it

00:49:00 ◼   ► is the cool design and the attic feedback, which is really well done.

00:49:05 ◼   ► But ergonomically, this one, the Xbox one, is better for my hands.

00:49:11 ◼   ► So starting tonight, I'm gonna put my iPhone hovering above the controller, and I'm gonna

00:49:17 ◼   ► play Delta in landscape mode as, I wanted to say as God intended, but no, nobody intended

00:49:24 ◼   ► this, really.

00:49:26 ◼   ► Nobody did.

00:49:28 ◼   ► Apple definitely didn't, that's for sure.

00:49:30 ◼   ► Apple didn't, Nintendo didn't, you know, accessory makers probably did.

00:49:34 ◼   ► But yeah, this is how I'm gonna play old Nintendo games.

00:49:38 ◼   ► a phone on top of an Xbox controller held in place by a plastic clip that I got from

00:49:43 ◼   ► Amazon for $14 for $14 that's that's the dream setup man it's it's this thing you're living

00:49:51 ◼   ► in the future my friend I am I am now what does this say about Nintendo and a missed

00:49:58 ◼   ► opportunity with the virtual console like I should I shouldn't have to do this right

00:50:04 ◼   ► I shouldn't have to do any of this.

00:50:06 ◼   ► I should be able to give Nintendo my money again

00:50:10 ◼   ► for a game that I purchased when I was 15

00:50:14 ◼   ► and that in 2021 I want to play again

00:50:17 ◼   ► because a sequel is coming out.

00:50:19 ◼   ► But it's like, Nintendo doesn't understand this.

00:50:23 ◼   ► They don't want my money.

00:50:24 ◼   ► They don't want anybody's money, it seems.

00:50:27 ◼   ► And so this is what I'm doing.

00:50:29 ◼   ► I'm playing with Delta, an old store,

00:50:32 ◼   ► and an Xbox controller.

00:50:33 ◼   ► And so one last thing. Now that I have AltStore, a couple of things. I'm using like a free,

00:50:40 ◼   ► separate developer account to authenticate with AltStore, because I always felt kind

00:50:46 ◼   ► of weird about giving my main developer account to AltStore.

00:50:50 ◼   ► Yeah. Good call.

00:50:52 ◼   ► Now, do people do that? Because I know that if you use a paid developer account, you can

00:50:58 ◼   ► increase the signing limit from seven days to a year. And so basically right now I gotta

00:51:04 ◼   ► refresh the apps installed via AltStore every seven days by connecting them to a computer.

00:51:10 ◼   ► I guess the solution could be keep the account separate but sign up for an Apple Developer

00:51:15 ◼   ► account again. And so maybe I could do that. But also, what are other apps that are cool

00:51:24 ◼   ► to use on AltStore. I know that there's like a category of apps that people install. It's

00:51:29 ◼   ► like Tweaks for existing apps. Like there's YouTube++ and Instagram++. Like those are

00:51:37 ◼   ► like popular Tweaks among AltStore users. Now, if I install those, will they arrest

00:51:44 ◼   ► me? Will Google get upset? I don't know. It feels kind of sketchy, right? It feels kind

00:51:51 ◼   ► of, I don't know.

00:51:52 ◼   ► I mean you're definitely pushing the bounds of what Apple...

00:51:56 ◼   ► But this is not jailbreaking potential, like technically it's not jailbreaking.

00:51:59 ◼   ► Right, it's it's sideloading.

00:52:01 ◼   ► It's sideloading.

00:52:02 ◼   ► This really gets to the conversation of like, is the iPhone a computer or console in the sense that all software has to come from the same place?

00:52:11 ◼   ► And I definitely fall on the iPhone and especially the iPad, or should be more like computers,

00:52:18 ◼   ► where if you want to do this, you could install something outside of the bounds of the App

00:52:23 ◼   ► Store.

00:52:24 ◼   ► I mean, I'm sure one reason, and I'm sure there's a million reasons why Nintendo hasn't

00:52:28 ◼   ► built something official for iOS where you could play all these games and emulation,

00:52:33 ◼   ► is that Apple doesn't allow emulation on iOS, and Nintendo wouldn't want to give Apple 30%

00:52:40 ◼   ► of every purchase.

00:52:42 ◼   ► And so there's all these fences put up around the iPhone and iPad that, yeah, you can get

00:52:47 ◼   ► around or if you're on a Mac you just don't have those fences necessarily but

00:52:52 ◼   ► it keeps cool stuff from happening and that's that's a bummer.

00:52:56 ◼   ► Yeah exactly like it shouldn't be this difficult you know especially if I know

00:53:01 ◼   ► if I know what I'm doing if I have a developer account like I don't know and

00:53:06 ◼   ► there's gatekeeper on the Mac like we've talked about this before it should be

00:53:09 ◼   ► easier to take control of your computer and do exactly what you want to do

00:53:13 ◼   ► because you can do that on a Mac like you want to play all the Nintendo games

00:53:17 ◼   ► on a Mac, just install an emulator and you're good to go. You can download one from the

00:53:20 ◼   ► internet and it's fine. But if you want to do that on an iOS device, well, good luck.

00:53:26 ◼   ► So I don't know. I guess I'm gonna keep using, I'm gonna post, Steven by the way, this is

00:53:30 ◼   ► why people should have the connected Pro, because I'm posting in the Discord a picture

00:53:37 ◼   ► of what Delta looks like with the skin that I'm using on my iPhone. This is not a Gameboy,

00:53:42 ◼   ► this is an iPhone. And it's so pretty, right? Look at that.

00:53:45 ◼   ► - It looks really good.

00:53:47 ◼   ► - If connected listeners have any recommendations

00:53:49 ◼   ► for tweaks or apps to install via out store sources,

00:53:54 ◼   ► let me know and we can talk about them in the future.

00:53:59 ◼   ► - I got some real time follow up before we move on.

00:54:02 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:54:02 ◼   ► - It's about GPUs again.

00:54:04 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:54:05 ◼   ► - They're available for standalone purchase.

00:54:07 ◼   ► Do you wanna hear the prices?

00:54:08 ◼   ► - Let me guess.

00:54:10 ◼   ► - Okay, so the 6800X, the new kind of middle of the road.

00:54:15 ◼   ► I don't know

00:54:17 ◼   ► $1,500

00:54:18 ◼   ► Twenty eight hundred dollars. Okay double almost double that wow okay the Radeon Pro

00:54:25 ◼   ► W6800X duo so this has two

00:54:29 ◼   ► W6800X's on board Wow okay

00:54:33 ◼   ► Well I

00:54:37 ◼   ► Don't think you're gonna get one Steven right I mean

00:54:40 ◼   ► You can buy another computer. Yeah, give under the macro

00:54:44 ◼   ► that one is $5,000. And the W6900X, the most expensive one, how much you think

00:54:53 ◼   ► that runs? $12,000. Oh it's a relative deal at $6,000. Well, cheap enough.

00:54:59 ◼   ► It makes the old Vega II one seem a lot cheaper. Wow. Yeah these pricey, these are

00:55:07 ◼   ► real pricey. So tell me again what kind of tasks people use GPUs for?

00:55:12 ◼   ► video playing gameboy emulation delta play play Metroid making Metroid

00:55:22 ◼   ► possibly I don't know I don't know I think it's more in that creation and

00:55:26 ◼   ► than anything else yeah Wow okay so you can drop six grand and your Mac Pro if

00:55:31 ◼   ► you want a w69x maybe you can and you can have two of them because you got so

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00:57:19 ◼   ► Relay FM. So Federico, a while back you bought the MagSafe popsocket system and

00:57:27 ◼   ► and it's finally shown up, and I would love to hear what you think about this,

00:57:31 ◼   ► but give people a reminder of, you know, why this is an issue.

00:57:35 ◼   ► Why would you want to combine magnets and pop sockets?

00:57:38 ◼   ► Honestly, I don't know. I don't know why I bought it.

00:57:41 ◼   ► Like, I think I bought...

00:57:43 ◼   ► Honestly, I think I bought it because Myke kept on insisting how much he loves the pop sockets,

00:57:48 ◼   ► and what I don't like about pop sockets is how you got to stick them to your phone,

00:57:54 ◼   ► And I saw that there was a MagSafe-enabled version,

00:57:58 ◼   ► and I'm a sucker for all things MagSafe,

00:58:00 ◼   ► so I guess I just wanted to try it.

00:58:03 ◼   ► And so I got the standard sort of pop socket with MagSafe

00:58:08 ◼   ► and the wallet version as well.

00:58:11 ◼   ► And honestly, like, it's pretty much what you expect.

00:58:15 ◼   ► So there's a little -- there's a pop socket

00:58:17 ◼   ► attached to this little base

00:58:20 ◼   ► that snaps onto MagSafe on your phone.

00:58:24 ◼   ► It seems to be working better

00:58:25 ◼   ► if you have a MagSafe case attached to your phone.

00:58:29 ◼   ► I've seen reports of the PopSocket

00:58:32 ◼   ► not having as strong a connection

00:58:35 ◼   ► if it goes just to the phone.

00:58:38 ◼   ► But I have a case.

00:58:39 ◼   ► I have a silicone case and a leather case.

00:58:41 ◼   ► Both are MagSafe, like official cases by Apple.

00:58:44 ◼   ► And look, it's really fine.

00:58:48 ◼   ► It stays in place, and it's a popsocket.

00:58:51 ◼   ► You can hold the thing in between your fingers

00:58:54 ◼   ► with your hand in the back of the phone.

00:58:56 ◼   ► Honestly, it's pretty much what I expected.

00:58:59 ◼   ► So from that perspective, it's not a disappointment at all.

00:59:04 ◼   ► It works perfectly.

00:59:05 ◼   ► It stays in place, connection is strong,

00:59:08 ◼   ► and you can use it as a popsocket.

00:59:10 ◼   ► Small enough, doesn't add a ton of thickness to the phone.

00:59:14 ◼   ► It's perfect.

00:59:15 ◼   ► Like, they delivered on what they promised.

00:59:18 ◼   ► The wallet version, also interesting.

00:59:20 ◼   ► So they have this different mechanism

00:59:24 ◼   ► where you put up to three cards into the wallet.

00:59:29 ◼   ► And the wallet, of course, also has a pop socket

00:59:31 ◼   ► on the outer side of it.

00:59:33 ◼   ► But then when you wanna grab your cards,

00:59:36 ◼   ► you push down on this fabric section

00:59:39 ◼   ► that they have at the top.

00:59:40 ◼   ► And because it's soft, you can push the cards down.

00:59:43 ◼   ► - That's nice. - And you can pick up

00:59:44 ◼   ► the card that you need.

00:59:46 ◼   ► It's really nice.

00:59:47 ◼   ► and the fabric is nice, it's really well done. Build quality is good. And again, it attaches

00:59:53 ◼   ► via MagSafe, and if anything I would say this is my favorite accessories when it comes to

00:59:59 ◼   ► detaching from MagSafe, because you can pull from the pop socket, right? And it detaches

01:00:06 ◼   ► if you apply enough force. So it's really fine. But in trying this, it made me realize

01:00:14 ◼   ► that no matter how you slice it, I don't think I'm a popsocket person.

01:00:20 ◼   ► I don't think I can be.

01:00:22 ◼   ► Holding the 12 Pro Max, it's really not a problem for my hands.

01:00:27 ◼   ► And I know I've got big hands, I'm a tall guy and everything.

01:00:34 ◼   ► I understand why popsockets are popular among people who struggle to hold large phones.

01:00:40 ◼   ► And I think they are the perfect accessory for that case.

01:00:45 ◼   ► It feels kinda unnecessary for me, you know?

01:00:48 ◼   ► Like sometimes I even forget to pop it out and to hold my phone like that because I don't

01:00:54 ◼   ► need to, right?

01:00:56 ◼   ► I can just hold my phone and it's fine.

01:01:00 ◼   ► So as a MagSafe accessory, I would say approved.

01:01:05 ◼   ► They did what they had to do.

01:01:08 ◼   ► don't need to stick your your popsocket to your phone with like that suction cup thing that they

01:01:15 ◼   ► have like which I've always disliked, they have a MagSafe attachment that works really nicely and

01:01:22 ◼   ► stays in place both for the standard version and the wallet version. But as they say in the best

01:01:28 ◼   ► ROM coms, look it's not you, it's me, PopSocket.

01:01:32 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:01:33 ◼   ► The problem is me.

01:01:35 ◼   ► So, not for me, I think I'm gonna give this to Myke

01:01:39 ◼   ► at some point, if he wants him.

01:01:41 ◼   ► I'm gonna write about it, but yeah, not for me.

01:01:47 ◼   ► I'm not the target PopSocket user.

01:01:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, a couple things here.

01:01:51 ◼   ► One, I like on their website, the animation they have

01:01:54 ◼   ► is using Apple's really ugly clear case.

01:01:57 ◼   ► And so this is a great way to cover those white lines up, which is nice.

01:02:01 ◼   ► I've also heard people say, and I think it's definitely true, the battery pack Apple released

01:02:05 ◼   ► also sticks better if you have a case. I think the magnets are just,

01:02:09 ◼   ► I don't know, like the cases are thinner and so the magnets are closer, but

01:02:13 ◼   ► that's been my experience as well with other products.

01:02:16 ◼   ► Ah, see that could be actually,

01:02:20 ◼   ► that could be,

01:02:21 ◼   ► that there's nothing else going on in the case, it's just magnets.

01:02:24 ◼   ► Whereas maybe in the case of the iPhone, there's other stuff going on there.

01:02:29 ◼   ► Ah, that could be actually. That's why the connection is stronger.

01:02:32 ◼   ► Yeah, I think overall MagSafe is better if you have a MagSafe case.

01:02:37 ◼   ► You know, the silicone or the leather, which is what I'm using.

01:02:39 ◼   ► You can't customize these, so the base is black, but you can pop off the pop socket part

01:02:44 ◼   ► and put, you know, your own print on one.

01:02:46 ◼   ► Myke did a custom one with the Relay logo on it a couple years ago.

01:02:51 ◼   ► So you can still customize this.

01:02:53 ◼   ► I'm like you though, I'm not really a popsocket person.

01:02:55 ◼   ► I do have one of my Kindle Oasis and I like it for that

01:02:59 ◼   ► 'cause the Kindle Oasis is just an awkward size

01:03:01 ◼   ► to try to hold and I really like it there.

01:03:05 ◼   ► But I've tried it on my phone.

01:03:06 ◼   ► I mean, a few years ago on Connected,

01:03:07 ◼   ► we did a challenge where we,

01:03:09 ◼   ► I think you and I had to use a popsocket for like two weeks

01:03:12 ◼   ► and Myke had to go without or something.

01:03:13 ◼   ► And it's, again, I see why people like it.

01:03:17 ◼   ► It's just not for me, especially in the MagSafe world.

01:03:19 ◼   ► But I'm glad that it's here.

01:03:21 ◼   ► I mean, it took him a long time,

01:03:22 ◼   ► but it sounds like they did it right, which is impressive.

01:03:26 ◼   ► You know, a lot of us definitely had concerns

01:03:28 ◼   ► and their website says, you know,

01:03:29 ◼   ► don't hold your phone just by the grip,

01:03:31 ◼   ► but it seems like it's a lot better than it could have been.

01:03:36 ◼   ► So I think the delay is totally understandable.

01:03:39 ◼   ► - I'm growing my MagSafe collection for sure.

01:03:43 ◼   ► Now that I'm going to the beach,

01:03:44 ◼   ► like I'm gonna have a whole stack

01:03:47 ◼   ► of MagSafe accessories to choose from.

01:03:50 ◼   ► probably gonna need like a separate bag just for my MagSafe accessories.

01:03:55 ◼   ► Oh I know what you need. You need like a metal briefcase so they like magnetize to the case

01:03:59 ◼   ► and you like pop them off and pop it on your phone?

01:04:01 ◼   ► No, what I need is like a belt with MagSafe clips and I can just pop them off from my belt.

01:04:08 ◼   ► I feel like we've had this very idea before.

01:04:10 ◼   ► Yeah it's possible. It's possible. Maybe because it's a good, a really good idea and somebody should do it.

01:04:16 ◼   ► So imagine a belt, a MagSafe belt, and you can stick as many accessories as you want,

01:04:22 ◼   ► and then depending on the situation and the context you're in, you can snap on different

01:04:27 ◼   ► accessories and you can store them on your belt.

01:04:30 ◼   ► I mean all the coolest people store things on their belts, you know.

01:04:34 ◼   ► Smartphones.

01:04:35 ◼   ► You know, cell phones back in the day, you would have like a little belt clip for your

01:04:40 ◼   ► Nokia phone.

01:04:41 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

01:04:42 ◼   ► Glorious times, yes.

01:04:43 ◼   ► Well, I think that does it, Federico.

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01:06:17 ◼   ► Wow, okay. Someone's gonna get it. You gotta get it.

01:06:20 ◼   ► Magstories. And then just forward it to the category page for that. Done and done.

01:06:26 ◼   ► Federico, I have a question for you. Okay. What Pokemon... It's nice that you're

01:06:31 ◼   ► doing this again. Okay, what Pokemon do you feel like you resonate with the most?

01:06:35 ◼   ► Generally speaking?

01:06:37 ◼   ► I think there's different ways you could take this, so it's kind of up to you.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Okay, so what kind of Pokémon am I looking for here?

01:06:45 ◼   ► It has to be a dog Pokémon, I think.

01:06:48 ◼   ► Right? I feel like it's gotta be a dog.

01:06:52 ◼   ► So, let's see, let me pull up some reference material here.

01:06:57 ◼   ► I mean, I could go for the boring answer and give you the legendary dog

01:07:00 ◼   ► from the latest Pokémon game.

01:07:05 ◼   ► There's a bunch of dog Pokémon Ark 9 comes to mind.

01:07:09 ◼   ► Lycanroc, but that's more of a wolf Pokémon.

01:07:13 ◼   ► Houndoom. Entei, also legendary Pokémon.

01:07:19 ◼   ► Okay, so I feel like...

01:07:23 ◼   ► Hmm. I'm browsing through my reference material here.

01:07:27 ◼   ► You're Dev and Think Pokémon.

01:07:30 ◼   ► So, okay, definitely a dog Pokemon because dogs are the best.

01:07:34 ◼   ► So I'm torn between Zacian, who's the legendary fairy dog Pokemon from the last Pokemon game,

01:07:44 ◼   ► or, because it's a dog, and I've always think it's a good buddy.

01:07:51 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm gonna go with Arcanine.

01:07:54 ◼   ► Arcanine from from the very first 151 Pokemon first generation a very good dog

01:08:01 ◼   ► Pokemon who breeds fire, you know fire type dog Pokemon doesn't get any better than Arcanine. I'll put that on the show notes people can see

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