Connected

00:00:00 ◼   ► (upbeat music)

00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 362.

00:00:12 ◼   ► We're playing the Ricky's today, boys.

00:00:16 ◼   ► Yeah, boy.

00:00:17 ◼   ► This episode is made possible by our sponsors,

00:00:20 ◼   ► Pingdom, Indeed, Mack Weldon, and Amazon Music.

00:00:24 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett,

00:00:25 ◼   ► and for the first time in a long time,

00:00:27 ◼   ► I'm pleased to announce Mr. Federico Vittucci.

00:00:30 ◼   ► - Has it really been that long?

00:00:32 ◼   ► Hi.

00:00:33 ◼   ► - The problem is the two of you haven't been

00:00:35 ◼   ► on the same episode for a while.

00:00:36 ◼   ► It's not that you haven't been on or he hasn't been on.

00:00:39 ◼   ► It's just been, I think, very rare for the two of you

00:00:42 ◼   ► to be on together.

00:00:43 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:00:44 ◼   ► - Do we need to shake hands?

00:00:46 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:00:47 ◼   ► - Hi, pleased to meet you.

00:00:49 ◼   ► - That's good.

00:00:49 ◼   ► Why is your hand moist?

00:00:50 ◼   ► - It's...

00:00:52 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:00:53 ◼   ► - Unexpected.

00:00:54 ◼   ► We're also joined by Myke Hurley.

00:00:56 ◼   ► Hello, I am the Constant.

00:00:58 ◼   ► You are everything.

00:01:00 ◼   ► I am also the Royal Highness Consolidated Chairman.

00:01:04 ◼   ► No, I was already starting this thing.

00:01:06 ◼   ► Well, that's what I am.

00:01:07 ◼   ► I have two little medals on my Ricky soft toy right here

00:01:13 ◼   ► because I am the Consolidated Champion.

00:01:16 ◼   ► I have a decree for the Consolidated Champion,

00:01:18 ◼   ► which will come later on in the show.

00:01:20 ◼   ► A decree?

00:01:21 ◼   ► I feel like this whole monarchy thing has slightly gotten

00:01:25 ◼   ► to your head.

00:01:26 ◼   ► Hey Federico.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:01:28 ◼   ► Do you think we just kick Myke off the show?

00:01:30 ◼   ► What is it called when you like-

00:01:32 ◼   ► A coup?

00:01:33 ◼   ► A coup, yes.

00:01:34 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:01:35 ◼   ► Because if he's the king-

00:01:36 ◼   ► Yeah, we gotta rise up.

00:01:38 ◼   ► What's the title of the emperor of the Riki's?

00:01:41 ◼   ► What's the-

00:01:42 ◼   ► His Royal Highness to Consolidate Champion.

00:01:44 ◼   ► Yeah, but that's not like a title champion.

00:01:48 ◼   ► That's my title.

00:01:50 ◼   ► Maybe we need a rule amendment to name that position, but we have some follow-up first.

00:01:54 ◼   ► We're getting ahead of ourselves.

00:01:56 ◼   ► Getting ahead of ourselves.

00:01:58 ◼   ► Myke, last time you talked about the Apple Watch a lot,

00:02:02 ◼   ► and all of the follow-up is about what you said

00:02:05 ◼   ► about the Apple Watch.

00:02:06 ◼   ► So do you just want to take this?

00:02:08 ◼   ► - One thing is not that I was wrong.

00:02:10 ◼   ► One thing is to help me a little bit more.

00:02:13 ◼   ► The second thing I was wrong about.

00:02:15 ◼   ► So Jason wrote in, different Jason,

00:02:18 ◼   ► about the time to walk thing.

00:02:20 ◼   ► So you remember we found out during the episode

00:02:22 ◼   ► that I could turn off the time to walk.

00:02:24 ◼   ► Well, there's also a setting in the workouts app,

00:02:27 ◼   ► I think, which is to turn off a setting

00:02:31 ◼   ► which is add newest workouts to watch.

00:02:34 ◼   ► And this should not only disable time to walk,

00:02:37 ◼   ► but also stop it from ever coming back again.

00:02:40 ◼   ► Currently, this setting explicitly mentions time to walk

00:02:44 ◼   ► as what's being downloaded, which is weird

00:02:45 ◼   ► because the setting is called add newest workouts.

00:02:49 ◼   ► So maybe at some point this will stop something else

00:02:52 ◼   ► from being immediately added.

00:02:53 ◼   ► - Oh, I see.

00:02:54 ◼   ► So if they do like--

00:02:56 ◼   ► - Time to run.

00:02:57 ◼   ► - Time to run, and it's just John Ternus, you know,

00:03:00 ◼   ► time to get ripped, and it's Tim Cook.

00:03:02 ◼   ► - Time to get ripped with Tim.

00:03:04 ◼   ► - Maybe those don't show up, but time to walk comes back.

00:03:07 ◼   ► - Who knows, but I don't want any of those things,

00:03:09 ◼   ► because what I want is just the things that I do,

00:03:11 ◼   ► and I've been very happy since last week,

00:03:13 ◼   ► because now all of the things that I wanna access

00:03:16 ◼   ► are just right there, so I'm very pleased to have that.

00:03:18 ◼   ► - Do you think Tim has a personal trainer?

00:03:20 ◼   ► - 100%.

00:03:21 ◼   ► - Definitely does, right.

00:03:22 ◼   ► I mean, you don't get to look like that at his age

00:03:24 ◼   ► without someone helping you.

00:03:25 ◼   ► - Well, also, he has a lot of money,

00:03:28 ◼   ► so why would he not have a personal trainer?

00:03:30 ◼   ► - That's true.

00:03:31 ◼   ► My personal trainer is a friend of mine called YouTube.

00:03:33 ◼   ► No, I'm just kidding.

00:03:35 ◼   ► I don't have a-- - That's a strange name.

00:03:36 ◼   ► - I don't have a personal trainer.

00:03:37 ◼   ► Well, it's a family name.

00:03:38 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:03:40 ◼   ► Do we really wanna get back into

00:03:41 ◼   ► what you think about countries?

00:03:43 ◼   ► - What's the name?

00:03:43 ◼   ► What's the name, YouTube-o?

00:03:45 ◼   ► - Watch face sizes.

00:03:47 ◼   ► I bungled this one big time.

00:03:49 ◼   ► So I severely misspoke and got wrong

00:03:53 ◼   ► about how watches are measured.

00:03:55 ◼   ► Watches, they are measured not by face size, but case size.

00:04:00 ◼   ► So a 44 millimeter watch is 44 millimeters

00:04:05 ◼   ► of the entire case, not the watch face.

00:04:07 ◼   ► Jake wrote in to give me good terminology, lug to lug.

00:04:10 ◼   ► So this is like from where the watch band attaches

00:04:14 ◼   ► to the watch.

00:04:15 ◼   ► And this can differ on certain watches.

00:04:16 ◼   ► Like with the Apple watch,

00:04:18 ◼   ► It doesn't have typical lugs which extend out from the watch body, so it's more compact that way.

00:04:25 ◼   ► A millimetre difference on the next Apple Watch would mean a millimetre difference for the overall

00:04:31 ◼   ► physical size of the watch, not the watch face, so I was wrong on that. If they do go to flat edges,

00:04:37 ◼   ► it would mean that the screens will be bigger and also the watch will be a little bit bigger.

00:04:41 ◼   ► I still stand by the fact that I don't think that this is going to have any change to Apple Watch

00:04:46 ◼   ► bands like all your old bands will work on the new watches would be my

00:04:49 ◼   ► expectation so that's clearing up all of that Mark Goleman had a report about the

00:04:54 ◼   ► new Apple watches that are upcoming he spoke about new watch faces to be

00:05:00 ◼   ► introduced to take advantage of the larger display you can read about those

00:05:04 ◼   ► on Bloomberg honestly I read about them and all of them just seemed bad to me in

00:05:09 ◼   ► some some way like which I'm sure I'll look forward to because there are just

00:05:13 ◼   ► no, like watch faces are like email apps. There are no good ones. It's just what can

00:05:19 ◼   ► you handle. The, Germin also said that the Apple Watch screen will go from 1.78 inches

00:05:27 ◼   ► diagonally to 1.9 inches, so quite a bit bigger. And the larger model will have a resolution

00:05:34 ◼   ► of 396 by 484, which is up from 368 by 448. He said, quote, similar for smaller model.

00:05:42 ◼   ► I don't know why he has the size of the larger model's resolution, but not the smaller one.

00:05:46 ◼   ► That was weird to me.

00:05:47 ◼   ► And if it's similar, just do the math and figure out what it should be.

00:05:51 ◼   ► I found that very strange as well.

00:05:52 ◼   ► I don't understand what that part meant.

00:05:55 ◼   ► I'm assuming that apps are going to need to support this new stuff, kind of like when

00:06:00 ◼   ► we went from series 3 to series 4.

00:06:03 ◼   ► The apps will work, but you won't take up the full screen space until you do it.

00:06:08 ◼   ► So there you go.

00:06:10 ◼   ► That's that.

00:06:11 ◼   ► That's Apple Watches.

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00:07:03 ◼   ► As of our recording, we have raised $213,000.

00:07:08 ◼   ► For context, the average cost to treat just one child with acute lymphoblastic leukemia,

00:07:14 ◼   ► the most common form of childhood cancer, is $203,000.

00:07:19 ◼   ► So we have paid for the complete treatment for a patient with ALL, and that feels so

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00:07:57 ◼   ► I've gotten a lot of those emails over the last week or so.

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00:08:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:10 ◼   ► That's fantastic. Like, you know, thank you so much for your donation, but wouldn't it

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00:08:16 ◼   ► So look into that. If you work at a company you may think has a program like that, and

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00:08:40 ◼   ► I'm super close to covering the top of this desk. I'm really close now. I don't

00:08:46 ◼   ► have much left. And then I've decided I'm gonna start on the legs. I'm gonna do this

00:08:52 ◼   ► entire thing man. I'm going for it. So keep donating. Every $500 we put another

00:08:56 ◼   ► sticker on something. Yeah, it's super cool. Anything else going on with this? We've got

00:09:02 ◼   ► a little thing called the podcast-a-thon coming. You want to tell us about that, Myke? Yeah,

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00:09:18 ◼   ► Just me and Stephen will be there. We've got a bunch of games, got a bunch of Relay FM

00:09:23 ◼   ► hosts. I think Federico is going to be joining us for something. We've got a ton of great

00:09:26 ◼   ► stuff planned, games and wonderful interviews with some really special

00:09:31 ◼   ► guests. Yeah we're super excited about it it's gonna be a wonderful time.

00:09:35 ◼   ► Simulcast across the globe, me from London and Steven from Memphis. So we're

00:09:41 ◼   ► really really excited. It's at twitch.tv/relayfm and it's on Friday

00:09:45 ◼   ► September 17th from 12 to 8 p.m. Eastern. And Steven you've missed something out

00:09:49 ◼   ► you didn't mention we have raised over a million dollars now over three years.

00:09:53 ◼   ► That was gonna be my big, like, end of the thing.

00:09:57 ◼   ► Okay, well then, what's the big end of the thing, Steven?

00:10:00 ◼   ► We have raised more than a million dollars since 2019.

00:10:04 ◼   ► Whoa!

00:10:05 ◼   ► Whoa!

00:10:06 ◼   ► And over $200,000 this year so far.

00:10:10 ◼   ► Y'all have really shown up for this, thank you so much.

00:10:12 ◼   ► Still time, stjoe.org/relay.

00:10:15 ◼   ► There's still a lot of time.

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00:10:18 ◼   ► Yeah, we got a lot of stuff planned after the Podcastathon too, which is something a

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00:10:25 ◼   ► We've got a bunch of other streams and content and everything that we're going to post-Podcastathon.

00:10:30 ◼   ► So lots going on.

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00:10:33 ◼   ► So we've got a big, big show this week.

00:10:37 ◼   ► It is the Ricky's for Apple's September event that's taking place on Tuesday, September

00:10:43 ◼   ► 14th.

00:10:45 ◼   ► Before we get to that, let's take a break and then we'll come back with the Bill of

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00:12:28 ◼   ► The Bill of Rickies. There are two types of Rickies, annual Rickies and keynote

00:12:36 ◼   ► Rickies. You didn't read the last amended part. Wait, do we, do we, do we need to stand?

00:12:41 ◼   ► Am I standing right now? Yeah. Don't we need to stand? Okay. Let's try that again. Okay.

00:12:46 ◼   ► I'm standing. I'm standing now. Guys just can't even get it right. Joe hit play again.

00:12:58 ◼   ► The Bill of Rickies, last amended on June 9, 2021.

00:13:03 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at Rickies.co and Rickies.net.

00:13:08 ◼   ► There are two types of Rickies,

00:13:10 ◼   ► Annual Rickies and Keynote Rickies.

00:13:13 ◼   ► The winner of the Annual Rickies is named Annual Chairman

00:13:17 ◼   ► and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account

00:13:20 ◼   ► for the full year.

00:13:21 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January.

00:13:25 ◼   ► The Keynote Riki's winner is named the Keynote Chairman

00:13:28 ◼   ► and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account

00:13:31 ◼   ► until the next keynote is held.

00:13:34 ◼   ► Annual winners roll over to preserve the order of picks.

00:13:38 ◼   ► For example, the 2019 annual winner gets to go first

00:13:41 ◼   ► for the 2020 annual picks.

00:13:44 ◼   ► I wanna clarify that language when we get further down.

00:13:47 ◼   ► Order for Keynote Riki's is based

00:13:49 ◼   ► on the previous Apple event.

00:13:51 ◼   ► The loser goes last.

00:13:53 ◼   ► To earn any points, everything written down in the prediction document must come true.

00:14:01 ◼   ► No half points may be awarded in any round and picks cannot be reused.

00:14:06 ◼   ► One point is awarded for any pick deemed correct in the first two rounds.

00:14:10 ◼   ► Two points will be awarded for correct picks in the risky pick round.

00:14:15 ◼   ► If your risky pick is wrong, you lose a point.

00:14:18 ◼   ► The two other hosts must agree that your pick is risky.

00:14:23 ◼   ► For Keynote Rickies, the scoring window starts when the event begins and closes when the

00:14:28 ◼   ► picks are scored.

00:14:30 ◼   ► The winner of the regular and risky picks must be granted access to the annual or event

00:14:35 ◼   ► chairman twitter account and will retain access until another winner is named.

00:14:41 ◼   ► The Flexis Loser of the flexis must compensate the winner

00:14:45 ◼   ► of the flexis by donating to the charity of the winner's choice.

00:14:50 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong flexi made by the loser.

00:14:55 ◼   ► Each host must make a minimum of 5 flexi picks.

00:15:01 ◼   ► Flexis may be reused as future flexis or regular picks.

00:15:06 ◼   ► The winner is determined by the ratio of correct to incorrect flexis.

00:15:10 ◼   ► The money of course must be donated on air.

00:15:12 ◼   ► A tie in either the regular picks or the flexies

00:15:17 ◼   ► is to be broken by coin toss.

00:15:20 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping the coin,

00:15:24 ◼   ► but digital voice assistants may be used even by Jason.

00:15:28 ◼   ► As a reminder, Myke is the current annual chairman

00:15:33 ◼   ► and he is also the current keynote chairman.

00:15:36 ◼   ► Thankfully, one of those Twitter handles is on the line.

00:15:41 ◼   ► - All right, we have an amendment where we have two.

00:15:43 ◼   ► Do you wanna go over your annual amendment,

00:15:45 ◼   ► annual winners amendment?

00:15:47 ◼   ► - Okay, so the language, annual winners roll over

00:15:50 ◼   ► to preserve the order of picks.

00:15:52 ◼   ► - Wait, where are we, where are we?

00:15:55 ◼   ► - Kind of point two.

00:15:56 ◼   ► - Point two.

00:15:57 ◼   ► - Annual winners roll over to preserve the order.

00:15:59 ◼   ► Okay, so what's the issue here?

00:16:00 ◼   ► - I think I wanna get rid of the for example line.

00:16:03 ◼   ► That's not useful.

00:16:04 ◼   ► - Yep, get rid of that.

00:16:05 ◼   ► - I also think, so the next line says,

00:16:07 ◼   ► order for keynote rookies is based

00:16:08 ◼   ► on the previous Apple event.

00:16:10 ◼   ► So I was thinking that order for annual Ricky's.

00:16:15 ◼   ► - Rolls over from the previous year.

00:16:16 ◼   ► - From the previous year.

00:16:17 ◼   ► - Ah, okay.

00:16:18 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:16:19 ◼   ► - Is based on the winner.

00:16:23 ◼   ► - Previous year.

00:16:24 ◼   ► - Of the previous year.

00:16:27 ◼   ► - I think that's the keynote Ricky's

00:16:28 ◼   ► is based on the previous Apple event.

00:16:30 ◼   ► Yeah, that's fine.

00:16:31 ◼   ► That makes much more sense.

00:16:32 ◼   ► - Someone has to read this like four times a year.

00:16:34 ◼   ► That one's been bugging me.

00:16:35 ◼   ► So I'm glad we could fix that.

00:16:37 ◼   ► - All right, we have another amendment.

00:16:38 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:16:39 ◼   ► So we have made a change to the coin flipping, right?

00:16:44 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:16:45 ◼   ► - That now the official coin flipping is done

00:16:49 ◼   ► in Dice by Peacock in the Relay FM mode.

00:16:52 ◼   ► Because that includes both the Relay FM challenge coin

00:16:56 ◼   ► and recordings of our audio for Heads and Tails

00:17:01 ◼   ► that we all provided.

00:17:02 ◼   ► - My thought is that Jason's snail part should stay

00:17:04 ◼   ► 'cause it's hilarious.

00:17:06 ◼   ► - Of course, and it also must stay

00:17:08 ◼   ► I'll never let Jason flip a coin ever again. As Jason Sonnell has a lifetime

00:17:11 ◼   ► ban on flipping the coin, dice by peacock and relay FM mode is the official

00:17:17 ◼   ► way to flip a coin. Yes. So I'm just gonna paste that in here. Oh gosh stop moving.

00:17:21 ◼   ► And as the Royal Highness Consolidated Champion, I would like to suggest two

00:17:27 ◼   ► potential amendments I've been thinking about. Okay. The second amendment... Easy!

00:17:35 ◼   ► I want to I want to suggest my second amendment first. No, no I'm not saying that we do either

00:17:45 ◼   ► of these this time. Okay. But it can I think it needs to happen for next time. The second

00:17:50 ◼   ► amendment that I want to make I call the rule of champion that whoever the champion going

00:17:56 ◼   ► into the Bill of Rickeys is gets to suggest an amendment to be made to the document.

00:18:04 ◼   ► No, I think amendments can come from anywhere.

00:18:08 ◼   ► Okay, well actually not suggest.

00:18:10 ◼   ► No, you are going after democracy here.

00:18:13 ◼   ► The champion gets to just add an amendment.

00:18:16 ◼   ► No.

00:18:17 ◼   ► No.

00:18:18 ◼   ► Okay, that was just merely a suggestion, right?

00:18:20 ◼   ► Hey, just power grab.

00:18:21 ◼   ► The first one that I want to make is that one.

00:18:23 ◼   ► This is not the commonwealth.

00:18:25 ◼   ► What are you doing?

00:18:26 ◼   ► I literally said, "Not this time."

00:18:28 ◼   ► Not any time.

00:18:29 ◼   ► I'm putting it up for vote.

00:18:30 ◼   ► Not any time.

00:18:31 ◼   ► Alright, now the first one is my more serious one.

00:18:34 ◼   ► So when we were, we have a little bit of a powwow before,

00:18:38 ◼   ► just to make sure that we've got all our picks correct,

00:18:40 ◼   ► everyone agrees on what's risky, right?

00:18:43 ◼   ► As the rules state.

00:18:44 ◼   ► Federico mentioned that he felt that this time

00:18:47 ◼   ► the picks were maybe a little iPhone focused.

00:18:51 ◼   ► So what I wanted to suggest is round theming.

00:18:55 ◼   ► - I think it's too close to the upgrades draft then.

00:18:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, but these things are fluid.

00:19:01 ◼   ► I think if you want to shoot yourself in the foot with a bunch of iPhone picks and there's

00:19:04 ◼   ► not any iPhones, I think that the bill of Ricky should let you do it.

00:19:08 ◼   ► That's cool.

00:19:09 ◼   ► It's merely a suggestion.

00:19:10 ◼   ► Uh, I like that we do that on upgrade because it does make it a little bit harder and it

00:19:15 ◼   ► was, it would definitely add a degree of difficulty to rounds one and two.

00:19:19 ◼   ► But maybe the whole point is that the difficulty should just remain on the risky and that rounds

00:19:24 ◼   ► one and two are bankable.

00:19:26 ◼   ► There is some intrigue to that idea though.

00:19:29 ◼   ► Like I like the idea of adding something that like, see it's tricky because I think we should

00:19:38 ◼   ► keep the freedom to let you choose like to put all your eggs in one basket if you want

00:19:44 ◼   ► to do that.

00:19:46 ◼   ► But I don't know maybe...

00:19:47 ◼   ► So I'll tell you why I thought this.

00:19:49 ◼   ► Maybe some kind of public shaming if you get them all wrong.

00:19:52 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:19:53 ◼   ► Interesting.

00:19:54 ◼   ► The thing that I'm trying to counteract is it is somewhat easy for the current winner

00:20:04 ◼   ► to score one and two, round one and two if they want to.

00:20:09 ◼   ► I think that we tend to be pretty fair on this, but you know, I could very easily just

00:20:14 ◼   ► roll in and pick like there's a new iPhone, there's four of them, that's round one and

00:20:18 ◼   ► two, right?

00:20:19 ◼   ► I'm not picking those, but...

00:20:22 ◼   ► I mean to degree there's a sense of self-honor there, right?

00:20:26 ◼   ► Yeah, because if you don't, if you do pick that way, Federico will just try and make

00:20:31 ◼   ► you feel bad.

00:20:32 ◼   ► Yes.

00:20:33 ◼   ► Because he'll say you have no passion, you have no passion, you have no passion.

00:20:36 ◼   ► Right.

00:20:37 ◼   ► But if you can look, you know, like say for example we're six years into this and Steven's

00:20:41 ◼   ► never won, you know, he might think...

00:20:44 ◼   ► Never?

00:20:45 ◼   ► He might, no, Steven's won a bunch of times but I just wanted to pick on him.

00:20:50 ◼   ► he may think, "I don't care about Federico shaming.

00:20:53 ◼   ► You know, I'm just going easy."

00:20:55 ◼   ► - Well then that's like, I think that's a personal decision.

00:20:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's true, 'cause then like,

00:20:59 ◼   ► you will be the champion, but at what cost, you know?

00:21:01 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, you're the champion of shame,

00:21:04 ◼   ► is what you are. - Yeah.

00:21:05 ◼   ► Okay, cool, they were the two things I wanted to suggest.

00:21:07 ◼   ► I like that we have had this open and honest dialogue

00:21:10 ◼   ► about the rules.

00:21:11 ◼   ► I still like the idea of adding in some kind of

00:21:15 ◼   ► tantalizing benefit as being champion,

00:21:18 ◼   ► maybe I can think of something else for a future amendment discussion.

00:21:23 ◼   ► If you want to keep up, we mentioned the two websites, rookies.co and rookies.net.

00:21:30 ◼   ► You can keep up with that.

00:21:32 ◼   ► There is a scorecard, there will be a link in the show notes over at rookies.co.

00:21:37 ◼   ► Keep up with what we did and judge us accordingly.

00:21:40 ◼   ► We're going to do round one after this break.

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00:23:16 ◼   ► All right, Myke.

00:23:18 ◼   ► Round one.

00:23:19 ◼   ► As the ruling Keynote Chairman, you get to go first.

00:23:23 ◼   ► My first pick is that at least one iPhone will get a high refresh rate display.

00:23:28 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:29 ◼   ► So...

00:23:30 ◼   ► That's the pick?

00:23:31 ◼   ► I'm sure they will call this promotion.

00:23:32 ◼   ► This is...

00:23:33 ◼   ► We're out of pick time now.

00:23:34 ◼   ► So...

00:23:35 ◼   ► I expect that's the name.

00:23:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:37 ◼   ► issue here, we need to clarify this. High refresh rate doesn't explain what

00:23:45 ◼   ► the difference from the previous one should be. Because what if higher

00:23:50 ◼   ► I think should be accurate, like gets a higher... I mean what, you think they're gonna do

00:23:53 ◼   ► one at 40 Hertz or something and then bring out a 60 and say "see this is high"

00:23:58 ◼   ► Well Apple could just say you know "oh the 60 Hertz we believe is a high

00:24:02 ◼   ► refresh rate display" They wouldn't say that, why would they say that? That would be so

00:24:05 ◼   ► - I think it's a little bit honest to say that.

00:24:07 ◼   ► - But it's possible.

00:24:08 ◼   ► So I think you need to clarify--

00:24:10 ◼   ► - I mean, anything's possible Federico.

00:24:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, but the pick has to pick one of those things

00:24:14 ◼   ► that's possible.

00:24:15 ◼   ► - Yeah. - All right, higher.

00:24:17 ◼   ► - So you want a higher refresh rate display, okay?

00:24:19 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:24:20 ◼   ► - You see?

00:24:21 ◼   ► That's easy.

00:24:22 ◼   ► - Well, but like what?

00:24:23 ◼   ► The pick otherwise is at least one iPhone

00:24:24 ◼   ► has a refresh rate display.

00:24:26 ◼   ► Like, it's not what I'm picking, right?

00:24:28 ◼   ► - Have you played this game at all?

00:24:30 ◼   ► You know how things can go bad.

00:24:32 ◼   ► - Maybe I am playing the game.

00:24:35 ◼   ► Sure. Yeah, sure. Promotion display. Is promotion the part of the peak, like the promotion name?

00:24:41 ◼   ► Okay. No, but that's, that's just, we're just chatting between friends now. But we're not

00:24:46 ◼   ► friends now. I assume they'll call it that because that's the name that they've, what

00:24:49 ◼   ► did you say? We're not friends right now. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. That makes

00:24:55 ◼   ► sense. Competitors of the death. We're just chatting between competitors right now. Okay.

00:25:00 ◼   ► Yeah. I, I, I'm assuming they're going to go with promotion because it's a brand name

00:25:04 ◼   ► that they already have. I think they would have expanded it out like they did

00:25:08 ◼   ► retina faster but they just haven't been able to do it. Okay. Is the iPad the only

00:25:12 ◼   ► device for a promotion display? The iPad Pro? That is called promotion? I think so.

00:25:18 ◼   ► I mean it better happen this year. I mean geez we've been saying this for years.

00:25:23 ◼   ► Yes. It's got to be the year. And lots of other companies have OLEDs doing this

00:25:28 ◼   ► and so yeah it seems like it's time. Yeah and Myke and I we mentioned this

00:25:34 ◼   ► before, like if you've never seen like a high refresh rate display in a small form factor,

00:25:40 ◼   ► like on a phone, I can tell you that on the latest Samsung devices, for example, it's

00:25:44 ◼   ► super nice. Even at a small size, it just makes like an older display feel sluggish.

00:25:52 ◼   ► Just like, because I saw some people argue, oh, promotion is the kind of thing that you

00:25:56 ◼   ► can appreciate on a larger display on a phone. It doesn't really make sense. I disagree strongly

00:26:02 ◼   ► I disagree. I forget about it on the iPad. I think it's missable on the iPad. It's much

00:26:07 ◼   ► more noticeable on a phone.

00:26:09 ◼   ► Yeah. Well, when you're scrolling, it's got all the benefits of... If you can tell the

00:26:14 ◼   ► difference between promotion and non-promotion on an iPad, you will also absolutely be able

00:26:19 ◼   ► to tell the difference on an iPhone, for sure. So it's going to look super nice.

00:26:22 ◼   ► I can't wait to turn it off.

00:26:24 ◼   ► Yeah, you think you would turn it off, right?

00:26:26 ◼   ► Yeah. Yeah, I don't like how you frustrate on anything.

00:26:28 ◼   ► Okay, the Discord's really upset right now.

00:26:30 ◼   ► Why? What did we do?

00:26:32 ◼   ► Because this is technically a reused pick.

00:26:36 ◼   ► Oh!

00:26:36 ◼   ► From when?

00:26:37 ◼   ► Uh, 2020 annual Ricky's.

00:26:40 ◼   ► Oh, Myke!

00:26:41 ◼   ► At least one of the 2020 iPhones will have a higher refresh rate display.

00:26:47 ◼   ► Oh, Myke!

00:26:48 ◼   ► Now let me think, is there a way for me to re-word this differently?

00:26:54 ◼   ► Well, you worded it exactly the same almost, except a year later.

00:26:59 ◼   ► Federico was early on this.

00:27:00 ◼   ► Yeah, Jason's made a good suggestion, which I could do.

00:27:05 ◼   ► Yes, I agree.

00:27:07 ◼   ► Alright, so at least one iPhone gets a 120Hz refresh rate display.

00:27:11 ◼   ► You gotta pin down the hertz, man.

00:27:13 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm fine with that, because I think that's what it will be.

00:27:15 ◼   ► Pin down the hertz.

00:27:17 ◼   ► Usually when you get pinned down, never mind.

00:27:21 ◼   ► At least one iPhone gets a 120Hz refresh rate display.

00:27:25 ◼   ► That's the new pick.

00:27:26 ◼   ► I think that's different enough, yeah.

00:27:28 ◼   ► Yeah, and I'm honestly like I'm as comfortable with this one as I was what it was previously.

00:27:32 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna go to 90. Like they could, but I would be really surprised if they went to 90.

00:27:37 ◼   ► Imagine if they go to 90.

00:27:39 ◼   ► Or like they make up their own. I think technically this is a 118.

00:27:44 ◼   ► 144, why not?

00:27:47 ◼   ► Oh my god, they could go to 144, but I don't think they will.

00:27:50 ◼   ► They could do that.

00:27:51 ◼   ► 120.

00:27:51 ◼   ► 120 hertz refresh rate display.

00:27:54 ◼   ► All right, let's double what it is now because it's 60 now.

00:27:58 ◼   ► - It's 16, yes. - Cool, okay.

00:28:00 ◼   ► Alright, I'm up next and hopefully, like, at this point, I guess we have people listening,

00:28:05 ◼   ► we have websites, so go check if this is a legal pick, I suppose.

00:28:10 ◼   ► I'm gonna say we see at least one new iOS 15 feature we haven't seen before on these new iPhones.

00:28:19 ◼   ► I mean, I think you've made a pick like this every single year, but it says iOS 15, so that will count.

00:28:24 ◼   ► If we think that...

00:28:25 ◼   ► I feel like you make some version of this pick quite frequently.

00:28:29 ◼   ► You do.

00:28:29 ◼   ► At least I know you've made it in the past.

00:28:30 ◼   ► But this is not me contesting you here.

00:28:32 ◼   ► It's just complaining of your lack of passion.

00:28:35 ◼   ► Yeah, just no passion.

00:28:36 ◼   ► No passion.

00:28:37 ◼   ► So, OK, I want to drill down to this pick a little bit.

00:28:40 ◼   ► OK, OK.

00:28:41 ◼   ► What do you mean by "we haven't seen before"?

00:28:44 ◼   ► Like, we literally haven't seen this feature in any of the betas

00:28:49 ◼   ► or the--

00:28:51 ◼   ► It's not here in the iOS 15 version that we have right now.

00:28:56 ◼   ► As of recording this iOS 15 Beta 8, I think is the latest version, it's not here.

00:29:03 ◼   ► But this feature will be...

00:29:05 ◼   ► So when you get the phone, the version of iOS 15 that's pre-installed on the phone,

00:29:12 ◼   ► or if it's an iOS 15 update that is already available,

00:29:18 ◼   ► it's got a feature that we haven't seen so far.

00:29:21 ◼   ► So basically I'm trying to work around the potential scenario, which is actually like a different pick.

00:29:27 ◼   ► Oh, there's this feature, but it's coming out in October.

00:29:30 ◼   ► Alright, the Discord's freaking out again.

00:29:32 ◼   ► Uh, to say, like, my pick said 2020 iPhone.

00:29:38 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:29:39 ◼   ► Right? Well, this isn't 2020.

00:29:42 ◼   ► 2021.

00:29:43 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:29:45 ◼   ► And so, like, if you'd—

00:29:47 ◼   ► Okay, so there's a bigger problem here.

00:29:50 ◼   ► How do you define a reused pick is the problem.

00:29:54 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:29:55 ◼   ► Oh my god, we need to change everything.

00:29:57 ◼   ► I think, okay, so I think here just changing the year or just changing the like, like from

00:30:04 ◼   ► iOS 14 to iOS 15, that's not enough anymore.

00:30:08 ◼   ► Yeah, which means Federico's pick here is probably also in value.

00:30:11 ◼   ► No.

00:30:12 ◼   ► Oh, this is so much fun.

00:30:13 ◼   ► Because I went specific, right, with 120 hertz.

00:30:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:30:17 ◼   ► What I've actually done is make this pick harder for myself.

00:30:21 ◼   ► And I was actually anyway, Federico,

00:30:23 ◼   ► going to encourage you to make this pick harder for yourself

00:30:26 ◼   ► because there's always stuff like, oh, you know,

00:30:29 ◼   ► like you could say like,

00:30:30 ◼   ► well, they added the refresh rate display

00:30:33 ◼   ► and there was a setting to change the refresh rate

00:30:35 ◼   ► and it technically isn't in iOS, you know, so like.

00:30:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm gonna say that in fact,

00:30:40 ◼   ► that's gonna be my pick.

00:30:41 ◼   ► - Wait, what?

00:30:42 ◼   ► - That's gonna be, I can replace this pick with that.

00:30:44 ◼   ► I can be more specific and say,

00:30:46 ◼   ► My pick is there will be a setting to disable the higher refresh rate display.

00:30:52 ◼   ► I mean, that's a real... that's a boring pick.

00:30:56 ◼   ► What I was going to say...

00:30:58 ◼   ► You won a bunch of games with boring picks.

00:31:02 ◼   ► Those picks are hand in hand walking down the street.

00:31:04 ◼   ► Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:31:07 ◼   ► What I mean is like taking someone's pick and then just like putting an addendum and making it your pick is like...

00:31:13 ◼   ► No, you're talking...

00:31:14 ◼   ► What I was gonna say to you, what I was gonna say to you was take your current pick,

00:31:19 ◼   ► but say something it's not gonna be. You know, not in the camera, for example.

00:31:24 ◼   ► I'm just taking Steven's pick.

00:31:27 ◼   ► Oh yeah, I didn't see that. I hadn't read that far yet.

00:31:29 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, look, you do what you want, you know, if you're happy with that as a witness on you.

00:31:33 ◼   ► It's just trying to make me feel bad for picking.

00:31:37 ◼   ► Some people would call this "tables turning". Some would call this...

00:31:42 ◼   ► No, I am going to say...

00:31:44 ◼   ► How are the turntables?

00:31:46 ◼   ► What's happening now? Why do you need to write that?

00:31:48 ◼   ► I wanted to check where the setting for turning off the high reference...

00:31:52 ◼   ► Accessibility.

00:31:54 ◼   ► Okay, so my pick is going to... my second pick is...

00:31:58 ◼   ► Wait, your second pick?

00:32:00 ◼   ► My first pick, I'm sorry.

00:32:02 ◼   ► He's like, "I'm moving on."

00:32:03 ◼   ► His second attempt at his first pick.

00:32:05 ◼   ► You know the problem we created for ourselves here, right,

00:32:08 ◼   ► is we gave too much power to the listeners,

00:32:10 ◼   ► because now they have every pick we've ever made.

00:32:13 ◼   ► This is going to get increasingly more complicated

00:32:16 ◼   ► over the years now, as we try and work out

00:32:19 ◼   ► what these picks are.

00:32:20 ◼   ► I will say, I was trying to pay attention

00:32:22 ◼   ► to some, like the annual picks when I was doing this,

00:32:25 ◼   ► but I only looked at this year's.

00:32:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, I did the same thing.

00:32:29 ◼   ► 'Cause it's easy to reuse an annual pick, right?

00:32:32 ◼   ► 'Cause you thought it was good to go.

00:32:33 ◼   ► - We trusted the people too much.

00:32:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, we're getting too much power.

00:32:37 ◼   ► - Always an issue.

00:32:39 ◼   ► Anyway, there will be a setting to disable the higher refresh rate on at least one of the new iPhones.

00:32:47 ◼   ► Man, if they don't put that high refresh rate display now, Steven could win this whole thing.

00:32:52 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:32:52 ◼   ► So, there will be a setting...

00:32:57 ◼   ► I love doing this episode.

00:32:59 ◼   ► I don't know why this so specifically speaks to something that the three of us enjoy,

00:33:04 ◼   ► but there's just something in it for some reason that we all really seem to enjoy,

00:33:08 ◼   ► and I'm not actually sure what it is.

00:33:10 ◼   ► But like, why am I so excited about the fact that Federico's writing something live in

00:33:13 ◼   ► the document right now?

00:33:14 ◼   ► I don't know, but I am.

00:33:16 ◼   ► There will be a setting to disable the higher refresh rate of at least on, on at least one

00:33:23 ◼   ► of the new iPhones.

00:33:25 ◼   ► Alright, my round one pick.

00:33:28 ◼   ► The iPhone Pro gets a new camera feature the regular iPhone does not get.

00:33:33 ◼   ► Yeah, there's a bunch of semantic problems here, Steven.

00:33:38 ◼   ► Yeah, what's the iPhone Pro?

00:33:39 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm saying it's an accessory.

00:33:42 ◼   ► The Pro...

00:33:44 ◼   ► La...

00:33:45 ◼   ► The Pro iPhone.

00:33:48 ◼   ► We should have just let him keep that one

00:33:49 ◼   ► and just drew in him later on.

00:33:51 ◼   ► Man, can you imagine if they did that,

00:33:54 ◼   ► but then they dropped the numbers

00:33:55 ◼   ► and like I get it on technicality?

00:33:58 ◼   ► That'd be awesome.

00:33:59 ◼   ► The Pro iPhone gets a new camera feature

00:34:00 ◼   ► the regular iPhone does not get.

00:34:03 ◼   ► This must have been used before, actually. Someone's definitely picked this one before.

00:34:07 ◼   ► Discord mobilized! There's no way, actually, that someone hasn't picked this one.

00:34:12 ◼   ► Can I share a bit of a conspiracy theory while Discord is checking on this thing?

00:34:18 ◼   ► So yesterday I saw John Gruber on Twitter have a little poll asking for, like, what do you think

00:34:27 ◼   ► the new iPhone is going to be called 1312s or they're dropping the number. And I thought,

00:34:34 ◼   ► well, it's an interesting option to have dropping the number as one of the entries in the poll.

00:34:40 ◼   ► I was like, why? I thought, why would you add that now if you didn't think that they were doing it,

00:34:51 ◼   ► Right? And so I went back and I checked, I believe it was the Power On newsletter by Mark Gurman from a few issues back,

00:35:02 ◼   ► where just at the end of a paragraph, Mark also theorized, or maybe they could drop the number from the next iPhone.

00:35:10 ◼   ► And he said something like, I mean, iPhone 15 and iOS 19, they sound kind of ridiculous, don't they?

00:35:17 ◼   ► And I thought, you know, the conspiracy theory here is, "So Gurman mentioned this a few weeks ago,

00:35:23 ◼   ► now Gruber does a poll on Twitter and that's an option. I wonder if maybe they heard something."

00:35:29 ◼   ► That would be my conspiracy theory.

00:35:32 ◼   ► Well, I think it's just because, I mean, every year people say it, right? I feel like every year

00:35:37 ◼   ► people talk about like, "And I've been one of these people, you can't just keep bumping those

00:35:40 ◼   ► numbers up forever." The 13 one specifically people think they might remove because 13 is unlucky,

00:35:46 ◼   ► right? By the way I think Steven's good I don't think unbelievably I don't think

00:35:51 ◼   ► we've ever picked that specific pick about there. We've made specific picks

00:35:55 ◼   ► about cameras but not about the iPhone gets a new camera feature the regular

00:35:59 ◼   ► iPhone does not get. So this pick is safe? It is. Just boring. But what

00:36:07 ◼   ► do you think? What are you thinking? Software? Hardware? What are you thinking?

00:36:10 ◼   ► A new camera feature. I mean... I'm not asking you to change the wording of your pitch. I'm just asking you, Stephen Hackett, to tell me what you're thinking of.

00:36:20 ◼   ► These features are normally hardware and software together in some way. I find it very hard to draw the line between them.

00:36:26 ◼   ► Most of the rumors are suggesting that the larger iPhone is going to get a better ultrawide.

00:36:34 ◼   ► Yeah, there's that... Is that a feature? Just a better camera?

00:36:38 ◼   ► That's for future us to decide I guess.

00:36:41 ◼   ► - I guess so.

00:36:42 ◼   ► - But you know, there was this rumor a while back

00:36:45 ◼   ► about like, portrait video, and there's been some stuff

00:36:50 ◼   ► recently with like better night mode features,

00:36:53 ◼   ► like maybe face detection in night mode and some stuff, so.

00:36:56 ◼   ► - Hmm, okay.

00:36:57 ◼   ► - We'll see where this goes.

00:36:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, we'll see.

00:36:59 ◼   ► Wikipedia by the way, is very good

00:37:01 ◼   ► for the searching of everything, so.

00:37:04 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:37:04 ◼   ► - That's what rickys.net, the Wikipedia.

00:37:06 ◼   ► Yes, Rickies.co does not seem to have a search.

00:37:10 ◼   ► But Rickies.co has literally everything else, so it's fine,

00:37:14 ◼   ► including combat.

00:37:15 ◼   ► I mean, just imagine their power

00:37:16 ◼   ► if they combined these things.

00:37:17 ◼   ► Oh my God, I didn't even wanna think about it.

00:37:19 ◼   ► At that point, I think they take over the show.

00:37:21 ◼   ► We're on, so are we done with round one?

00:37:24 ◼   ► I think so.

00:37:24 ◼   ► That was more eventful than a typical round one.

00:37:27 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm tired already.

00:37:29 ◼   ► Oh, well now my round two is just like, I now gotta look.

00:37:34 ◼   ► My round two pick is no Macs.

00:37:39 ◼   ► Yeah, this has already been picked before.

00:37:41 ◼   ► Jeez, this was a disaster.

00:37:44 ◼   ► - Where are you checking these picks?

00:37:45 ◼   ► What are you checking them?

00:37:46 ◼   ► - Rickies.net.

00:37:48 ◼   ► There's a good search function on that.

00:37:49 ◼   ► So that's helping a lot for finding this.

00:37:52 ◼   ► - Oh, we use no new Macs several times.

00:37:55 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Oh no.

00:37:56 ◼   ► - So you gotta be more specific.

00:37:57 ◼   ► - All right, okay.

00:37:58 ◼   ► The MacBook Pro will not appear at this event.

00:38:03 ◼   ► The Apple Silicon, there we go, the Apple Silicon MacBook Pro will not be announced at this event.

00:38:12 ◼   ► I hadn't realized that. We're just going to have to start getting real specific with all of the picks now, I guess,

00:38:17 ◼   ► is the only way around this new wrinkle that we've created for ourselves.

00:38:21 ◼   ► Huh, okay.

00:38:22 ◼   ► I'm checking. So what's your pick now?

00:38:24 ◼   ► The Apple Silicon MacBook Pro will not be announced at this event.

00:38:28 ◼   ► the next, the new, the new, the new Apple Silicon MacBook Pro

00:38:34 ◼   ► will not be announced at this event.

00:38:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:38:38 ◼   ► I'm checking mine on rikis.net.

00:38:43 ◼   ► So are we good with this?

00:38:45 ◼   ► Yeah, I think so.

00:38:47 ◼   ► Okay.

00:38:48 ◼   ► I think mine is safe to use.

00:38:51 ◼   ► Apparently it's never been used before.

00:38:53 ◼   ► I mean, we'll find out, right?

00:38:55 ◼   ► We'll find out.

00:38:56 ◼   ► That'll tell us.

00:38:57 ◼   ► My second pick is, or in theory should be, the new iPhones keep the same screen sizes

00:39:05 ◼   ► as last year.

00:39:07 ◼   ► Let's run it through the checking engine.

00:39:10 ◼   ► I mean, like, it seems fine, right?

00:39:13 ◼   ► I mean, this is the thing, the expectation is this is probably the last mini-year, right?

00:39:20 ◼   ► So I reckon you're probably good for that one.

00:39:22 ◼   ► Like just for that one actually coming through.

00:39:25 ◼   ► We didn't actually world search in too furiously.

00:39:27 ◼   ► Do you both agree with my pick just like as it sounds?

00:39:32 ◼   ► Oh yeah, I don't know.

00:39:33 ◼   ► It's not gonna happen?

00:39:34 ◼   ► I personally don't think we're gonna get any, like my personal theory, we're not gonna get

00:39:38 ◼   ► anything Mac related at this event.

00:39:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:41 ◼   ► Yeah, it seems unnecessary, right?

00:39:42 ◼   ► Like you could just do another one in October.

00:39:44 ◼   ► Like why wouldn't you do that?

00:39:46 ◼   ► Or even if you want to do it like, I don't know, in two weeks, like at the end of September,

00:39:51 ◼   ► like I don't know.

00:39:52 ◼   ► But I mean, they did three events last year.

00:39:54 ◼   ► all through November.

00:39:56 ◼   ► By the way, I'm really worried they're going to do that again.

00:39:59 ◼   ► I think they will.

00:40:01 ◼   ► I'm pretty worried they're going to do three events again

00:40:03 ◼   ► and I don't know if I can take it, but...

00:40:05 ◼   ► I mean, why not, right?

00:40:07 ◼   ► If this is the current situation and it's the same as last year,

00:40:10 ◼   ► there's no need to plan for an in-person event.

00:40:14 ◼   ► - And so spread it out. - It's not going to happen.

00:40:16 ◼   ► It's not going to happen.

00:40:18 ◼   ► Who knows if it's going to happen next year.

00:40:20 ◼   ► So, yeah.

00:40:23 ◼   ► I think we'll have to do that again.

00:40:26 ◼   ► - All right, so that's mine and Federico's

00:40:29 ◼   ► second round pick, Stephen Mozzuels.

00:40:31 ◼   ► - No, this is interesting.

00:40:32 ◼   ► Okay.

00:40:33 ◼   ► - This is where the passion gets dialed up.

00:40:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is a passionate pick.

00:40:38 ◼   ► - The Apple Watch SE gets a price cut.

00:40:41 ◼   ► - This is a bold pick, my friend.

00:40:45 ◼   ► - So I feel like it's a follow on

00:40:49 ◼   ► from our conversation last year.

00:40:50 ◼   ► The Apple Watch SE came out and it wasn't,

00:40:53 ◼   ► it didn't take the cheap spot in the lineup.

00:40:56 ◼   ► It was just sort of a slightly reduced series,

00:41:01 ◼   ► you know, four or five, six, somewhere in there.

00:41:03 ◼   ► - It's like a series 3.5 is like feature wise

00:41:07 ◼   ► what it feels like.

00:41:08 ◼   ► - My thought process here,

00:41:10 ◼   ► this is beyond the scope of the pick obviously,

00:41:12 ◼   ► but is that the series three will go away

00:41:15 ◼   ► and the SE falls to that bottom price point.

00:41:20 ◼   ► And then, you know, the series, I guess five,

00:41:23 ◼   ► What are we on now? Six?

00:41:25 ◼   ► - It will be seven.

00:41:26 ◼   ► - Okay, so we have the Series 7,

00:41:28 ◼   ► maybe the 6 stays around a little bit cheaper

00:41:30 ◼   ► and the SE falls to that bottom slot,

00:41:32 ◼   ► sort of the entry-level Apple Watch.

00:41:34 ◼   ► - Okay, so you'll be looking at them taking the current SE

00:41:38 ◼   ► from 279 to 199.

00:41:41 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:41:42 ◼   ► - That's a big price drop.

00:41:44 ◼   ► - But they've had a whole 'nother year building the thing.

00:41:46 ◼   ► - I mean, I think, I said at the time,

00:41:47 ◼   ► it was unbelievable they charged 279 for this thing.

00:41:50 ◼   ► It's way too expensive.

00:41:51 ◼   ► So they do need to bring it down

00:41:53 ◼   ► and I hope you're right.

00:41:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, so we'll see.

00:41:56 ◼   ► - You think they'll keep the 6 around?

00:41:58 ◼   ► - I think so.

00:41:59 ◼   ► I think there needs to be a middle one.

00:42:00 ◼   ► And I mean, really, like the driving need

00:42:02 ◼   ► is getting rid of the 3, right?

00:42:04 ◼   ► The 3 is pathetic in terms of like living with today

00:42:08 ◼   ► when you're trying to run updates on it.

00:42:10 ◼   ► And it's holding developers sort of hostage

00:42:13 ◼   ► to smaller screen sizes the longer it is around.

00:42:16 ◼   ► - My feeling honestly, like,

00:42:17 ◼   ► would be that they get rid of the 6.

00:42:19 ◼   ► Like the 6 will go.

00:42:20 ◼   ► If they're gonna bring the SE down to that,

00:42:22 ◼   ► don't there doesn't need to be three price points. No there doesn't. I think for the watch

00:42:25 ◼   ► there should just be two price points there's the current one and there's the

00:42:27 ◼   ► cheaper one. The SE. They have done that in the past right they've gotten rid of

00:42:31 ◼   ► it like you couldn't still get the series 5 when the series 6 came out. Yeah

00:42:37 ◼   ► I think the 5 disappeared so so we'll see where that goes it just feels like

00:42:41 ◼   ► it's time to to realign things and I think the watch SE getting a price cut

00:42:46 ◼   ► is a big part of that. I would love that to happen I think yes I mean honestly as

00:42:51 ◼   ► I think they should update the SE with some more features, but they probably won't do that if they're gonna price cut it

00:42:57 ◼   ► probably not the fact that doesn't have an always-on display is just

00:43:01 ◼   ► Bananas to me

00:43:04 ◼   ► Like so many things it doesn't have that that watch for the price that they charge it for

00:43:08 ◼   ► If they don't put it to $1.99. I agree. I think it should happen

00:43:13 ◼   ► I think I would just be surprised still though just because of that they got to go down what like $80 or whatever

00:43:20 ◼   ► like, that's a lot of money. All right, so that's round one and two. I feel like we've

00:43:25 ◼   ► done a pretty good job now that we rewrote a quarter of the picks. Flexis can be reused,

00:43:33 ◼   ► right? Like, I can't. Yes. Okay, good, because I have not got the energy to check 15 picks

00:43:38 ◼   ► for previous use. We'll get to the flexis, but first we have the risky picks, but first

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00:45:18 ◼   ► Alright, it's time for our risky pick round.

00:45:22 ◼   ► I mentioned this earlier, but one of the things that we do is we confirm with each other that

00:45:29 ◼   ► picks are risky because we had lots of problems in the past of fighting about

00:45:35 ◼   ► what's risky enough and I think over time the three of us have gone pretty

00:45:39 ◼   ► good at understanding like this there's some like non codified rules you know

00:45:44 ◼   ► like if something is too heavily rumored it won't be classed as risky and this is

00:45:50 ◼   ► the thing that we work out so it's tricky it can be pretty tricky

00:45:53 ◼   ► especially when like people make up rumors now.

00:45:58 ◼   ► They just say things.

00:46:00 ◼   ► I think they're called leakers.

00:46:02 ◼   ► Leakers, yeah.

00:46:03 ◼   ► That's how they like to go by.

00:46:05 ◼   ► Harder and harder as the years go on to come up with things.

00:46:08 ◼   ► So something that I'm trying for myself this year is to layer things on top of each other

00:46:15 ◼   ► to make it less likely that it's going to occur.

00:46:18 ◼   ► That's my own personal strategy.

00:46:21 ◼   ► YouTube may have done this before, but this is my personal strategy for this video.

00:46:24 ◼   ► I have a Flexi, which is the real kind of like,

00:46:29 ◼   ► and this is this idea, which I ended up not picking

00:46:32 ◼   ► because I had an idea that I thought was better.

00:46:34 ◼   ► But I, so later on, you will hear what was my first actual risky pick,

00:46:39 ◼   ► which was super risky, I think.

00:46:42 ◼   ► But I was just trying something new out and I ended up landing on this one instead.

00:46:45 ◼   ► Oh boy, there's a lot riding on this feature for me, but here we go.

00:46:49 ◼   ► an iPhone gets an always-on display with a UI element that is reminiscent of Apple Watch complications.

00:46:55 ◼   ► Oof.

00:46:57 ◼   ► I like your layering because always-on display I feel like has been rumored too much to be risky.

00:47:03 ◼   ► Oh, of course.

00:47:04 ◼   ► But bringing in a UI element that's reminiscent, which like we can just argue about what that word means next week.

00:47:09 ◼   ► I've picked that very specifically because what it's not gonna be is a complication is my expectation.

00:47:15 ◼   ► I would love to see them say like, "Hey, you know those Apple Watch apps that you make?

00:47:18 ◼   ► Now the complications of those watch apps can just go on your phone."

00:47:22 ◼   ► That's what I want them to do, but I don't know if they'll do it.

00:47:24 ◼   ► I could imagine at least for the first instance, it's just Apple stuff.

00:47:28 ◼   ► So like they will put things on the display that look like complications or act like complications.

00:47:35 ◼   ► But we will next week decide if reminiscent is a word that we need to debate.

00:47:39 ◼   ► But that's my pick. I'm not changing it from reminiscent.

00:47:42 ◼   ► That's my intention is not to change it.

00:47:43 ◼   ► A UI element.

00:47:45 ◼   ► I couldn't think of how to phrase it.

00:47:49 ◼   ► Like, maybe like an iPhone gets an always-on display.

00:47:53 ◼   ► It's like with some stuff that looks like Apple Watch complications.

00:47:56 ◼   ► Like, I couldn't think of a word, right?

00:47:58 ◼   ► Keep a UI element is better than some stuff.

00:48:01 ◼   ► Exactly. Like, I couldn't work it out, like, how to say it.

00:48:05 ◼   ► Okay. Well, good luck.

00:48:10 ◼   ► It is risky, for sure.

00:48:13 ◼   ► I want to know though, just from the two of you,

00:48:16 ◼   ► do you think that this is a possibility?

00:48:18 ◼   ► I think so. I think it's especially clever to imagine a scenario

00:48:22 ◼   ► in which developers could reuse existing work on watchwise complications.

00:48:29 ◼   ► It's all SwiftUI, right?

00:48:30 ◼   ► It's all SwiftUI and the way that it works,

00:48:33 ◼   ► I could imagine how an Always On display,

00:48:35 ◼   ► they could make it work similarly to the watch

00:48:37 ◼   ► by having a variable refresh rate,

00:48:40 ◼   ► bringing down the refresh rate when the display is always on,

00:48:43 ◼   ► using SwiftUI and the timeline approach to draw images on the lock screen, which would be the

00:48:49 ◼   ► complications that you're thinking of, and that would be sort of like data that is refreshed, say,

00:48:54 ◼   ► once a minute, for example, or every two minutes, right? And developers may be able to tell,

00:48:59 ◼   ► "Actually, this is important data. I want to make sure that I can push updates to the lock screen

00:49:05 ◼   ► as quickly as possible." So that's all stuff that can be done on WatchOS, and I think it would be

00:49:11 ◼   ► super clever for Apple to say "now it just works on the iPhone 2". That is totally like

00:49:17 ◼   ► Apple Playbook, you know? So I like it. And also, like, similarly, I didn't want to say

00:49:21 ◼   ► it's going to be Apple Watch Complications because it might not be, like, they might

00:49:24 ◼   ► do a different design type thing, but we can clearly see, right, like this is very similar

00:49:29 ◼   ► in its design, you know, because it's not going to be, like, on the corners only. It

00:49:34 ◼   ► would just be really weird. Like, I imagine it would be in the middle, but I could imagine

00:49:39 ◼   ► maybe some of them are circular,

00:49:42 ◼   ► always, you know, that kind of stuff, so.

00:49:44 ◼   ► - I want this.

00:49:45 ◼   ► I want my phone to be sort of more useful

00:49:48 ◼   ► when it's just laying there on the charger.

00:49:50 ◼   ► And this has been a thing in Android world for a long time,

00:49:54 ◼   ► and I think the iPhone should totally do it.

00:49:56 ◼   ► - The screen is just black right now.

00:49:58 ◼   ► Like I could at least have a clock there, you know?

00:50:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, at least that.

00:50:01 ◼   ► - And if it was in that leather, you know, pouch thing,

00:50:04 ◼   ► you would have a clock.

00:50:05 ◼   ► - Oh my God, I forgot about that.

00:50:07 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:50:08 ◼   ► Was it just a pouch? It wasn't even like a flip case, right?

00:50:12 ◼   ► I think it's a pouch.

00:50:14 ◼   ► Apple.

00:50:15 ◼   ► Apple leather.

00:50:17 ◼   ► Apple pouch.

00:50:19 ◼   ► Search for iPhone pouch.

00:50:20 ◼   ► iPhone pouch.

00:50:21 ◼   ► Here you go. iPhone 11 Pro leather case.

00:50:25 ◼   ► Oh, case.

00:50:26 ◼   ► No, that's not it.

00:50:27 ◼   ► No, that's just the regular case.

00:50:29 ◼   ► iPhone 12 Pro leather sleeve.

00:50:32 ◼   ► Leather sleeve.

00:50:34 ◼   ► Okay.

00:50:35 ◼   ► Leather sleeve with MagSafe saddle brand.

00:50:38 ◼   ► It's $130.

00:50:39 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:50:41 ◼   ► Forgot.

00:50:41 ◼   ► Does anybody own this?

00:50:42 ◼   ► Did anybody ever buy this?

00:50:45 ◼   ► No, we asked this question on the show before.

00:50:49 ◼   ► I am certain that we did.

00:50:51 ◼   ► I want to say that we got an answer

00:50:54 ◼   ► from someone who worked in construction.

00:50:58 ◼   ► Yes, they didn't want their phone destroyed.

00:51:01 ◼   ► Oh my God, yeah, we've been down this road before, yeah.

00:51:03 ◼   ► Okay, rescind follow up, we don't require it, thank you.

00:51:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's a previously used follow-up item.

00:51:09 ◼   ► I can't use it again.

00:51:10 ◼   ► - Nope, that's against the rules.

00:51:12 ◼   ► So my risky pick, an iPhone,

00:51:15 ◼   ► sorry, at least one of the new iPhones,

00:51:18 ◼   ► better way to say that.

00:51:20 ◼   ► - An iPhone is fine.

00:51:21 ◼   ► - An iPhone is fine, okay.

00:51:22 ◼   ► An iPhone gets an updated Face ID sensor

00:51:25 ◼   ► that supports partially occluded faces, okay?

00:51:30 ◼   ► So I'm arguing in favor of an updated Face ID

00:51:36 ◼   ► that works even if your face is partially covered.

00:51:41 ◼   ► - Here's a question right off the bat.

00:51:45 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:51:46 ◼   ► - You said a Face ID sensor,

00:51:48 ◼   ► which indicates to me that you mean it's a hardware change.

00:51:51 ◼   ► What if it's just something they announced

00:51:56 ◼   ► for all iPhones in iOS 15, then you don't get this.

00:52:00 ◼   ► - Well, it seems unlikely though, right?

00:52:01 ◼   ► - It does, it does, but the unlikely

00:52:04 ◼   ► is what we talk about here at the rookies sometimes.

00:52:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, so that's what makes it risky, I think, is saying--

00:52:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think the way that we can judge this is

00:52:12 ◼   ► if they, you know, they could say,

00:52:14 ◼   ► we have this new sensor that does this,

00:52:16 ◼   ► or they could just say, hey, we do this,

00:52:18 ◼   ► and it's on this phone, or it's on these models,

00:52:20 ◼   ► then we could just be like, okay, this counts.

00:52:22 ◼   ► So I think this is risky,

00:52:24 ◼   ► because I don't think there's any way this is gonna happen.

00:52:27 ◼   ► - Okay, well-- - Interesting.

00:52:28 ◼   ► - Let me tell you why.

00:52:29 ◼   ► - The Discord is very unhappy.

00:52:31 ◼   ► - Right, so I will tell you why I felt like

00:52:33 ◼   ► this was not risky, but this was risky.

00:52:35 ◼   ► Because to do this, what they are saying is,

00:52:41 ◼   ► we are making Face ID less secure.

00:52:43 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:52:44 ◼   ► - And I cannot fathom that they would do that,

00:52:47 ◼   ► which is why they added the watch unlock.

00:52:49 ◼   ► Like what Federico has here, that's watch unlock.

00:52:53 ◼   ► That's them saying that they will take

00:52:55 ◼   ► the security of watch unlock and just put it in

00:52:58 ◼   ► from a two factor device system

00:53:01 ◼   ► to one factor device system.

00:53:03 ◼   ► Like, if they are only looking at half the face,

00:53:07 ◼   ► that's saying it's like half secure.

00:53:10 ◼   ► And I just, I don't think it's gonna happen.

00:53:12 ◼   ► I applaud your thinking,

00:53:13 ◼   ► but I don't know how they could possibly do this.

00:53:15 ◼   ► - Here's how I'm thinking about it.

00:53:17 ◼   ► The Apple Watch Unlock is a compromise, obviously.

00:53:20 ◼   ► I see it as a workaround to get to the point where,

00:53:24 ◼   ► think about it this way.

00:53:25 ◼   ► If I see you, you know, I'm your friend,

00:53:28 ◼   ► and I see you with a mask on,

00:53:30 ◼   ► I, as a human who knows you, I can recognize you.

00:53:33 ◼   ► I can tell you are Myke with a mask on, right?

00:53:36 ◼   ► Just because I see you with a mask on

00:53:39 ◼   ► does not mean I do not recognize you, right?

00:53:42 ◼   ► So to me, the problem feels like

00:53:44 ◼   ► we need to make the Face ID sensor more capable

00:53:48 ◼   ► in terms of capturing more data points,

00:53:51 ◼   ► even from half the face.

00:53:54 ◼   ► So a way that I could see Apple explain this is

00:53:57 ◼   ► now even if you have a mask on,

00:53:59 ◼   ► we can get more detail out of the part of the face that is uncovered, right?

00:54:04 ◼   ► That's how I would...

00:54:06 ◼   ► I could imagine Apple saying, "This is just as secure,"

00:54:09 ◼   ► because we doubled the data that the Face ID sensor can capture

00:54:13 ◼   ► from everything else on your face, basically.

00:54:16 ◼   ► I'm going to massively oversimplify this.

00:54:18 ◼   ► Like, you have a six-character password,

00:54:20 ◼   ► and it's like you underneath it enter four characters.

00:54:22 ◼   ► We can just guess the last two.

00:54:24 ◼   ► You know, like, I understand what you're saying.

00:54:27 ◼   ► I think it would be really cool if they could somehow do that.

00:54:31 ◼   ► I'm just not convinced that they would be able to...

00:54:35 ◼   ► It doesn't make sense to me that like if your face, you know, your entire face has like

00:54:41 ◼   ► a map that they can draw of it, then that gives you like a score, right?

00:54:48 ◼   ► That by just scanning one half of it twice would get you the same security score.

00:54:53 ◼   ► Does that make sense?

00:54:54 ◼   ► Yeah, I see what you mean, but I also feel like there's a bunch of ways in which they could do

00:55:02 ◼   ► like more detail out of retina scanning for example, you know? That's something that they could do.

00:55:09 ◼   ► I think people have misunderstood what I was saying with the passcode thing. What I was saying

00:55:14 ◼   ► with the passcode thing is imagine you have a six character passcode and Apple's like "oh you only

00:55:20 ◼   ► need to enter half of that passcode now because we'll just understand the rest of it for you.

00:55:25 ◼   ► That's kind of what it feels like to me. It's like you have a password which is your entire face

00:55:30 ◼   ► but we now only need to scan half of that face to understand if it's you. It's like half of what

00:55:36 ◼   ► currently exists. So that's why I felt like it was risky because to me it felt like

00:55:45 ◼   ► it wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, it's a uniquely, I think, challenging problem for any computer to solve, really,

00:55:53 ◼   ► that we as people have a bunch of different ways to identify someone else, even with the mask on,

00:55:59 ◼   ► but how do you explain that to a sensor in a phone, right? Because if the sensor is all about

00:56:06 ◼   ► capturing data, and if half of the data is missing, then the phone is just gonna say "No, I'm not gonna

00:56:13 ◼   ► unlock. So I wonder, obviously, like, ideally, right, let's talk about the ideal feature here.

00:56:20 ◼   ► Ideally, the phone, just like, say, my mom or, you know, a friend of mine, should be able to recognize

00:56:28 ◼   ► me even if I'm wearing a mask. How do you make that possible? Do you scan more of the body? Like,

00:56:36 ◼   ► Do you want to scan my neck or my shoulders?

00:56:39 ◼   ► Like, okay.

00:56:40 ◼   ► Neck scan.

00:56:41 ◼   ► Can you scan through...

00:56:44 ◼   ► Can your technology scan through the mask?

00:56:47 ◼   ► I don't even know if that's physically possible.

00:56:50 ◼   ► Do you want to scan additional data from my eyes?

00:56:54 ◼   ► Like again, retina scanning, for example.

00:56:57 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:56:58 ◼   ► I feel like there should be a way for Face ID to figure this out.

00:57:04 ◼   ► And if there's a company who can figure this out, I think it's Apple.

00:57:08 ◼   ► So that's what I think makes it...

00:57:10 ◼   ► It's risky because of exactly what Myke said.

00:57:14 ◼   ► Like how can you argue that Face ID is secure because it scans the full face, but then it

00:57:22 ◼   ► also works if you have a mask on.

00:57:24 ◼   ► And that's exactly what makes it risky, I think.

00:57:26 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, I guess...

00:57:27 ◼   ► Well, it's not exactly half.

00:57:29 ◼   ► Like Vidit is right in the Discord.

00:57:30 ◼   ► It's not exactly half.

00:57:31 ◼   ► No, I know.

00:57:32 ◼   ► But you've got to generalize, right?

00:57:34 ◼   ► I don't know the exact mathematical equation of the mapping of your face.

00:57:39 ◼   ► Yeah, face math is tricky.

00:57:41 ◼   ► Face math is really complicated.

00:57:42 ◼   ► I guess one thing that works in your favor is they did decrease the security with the Apple Watch Unlock.

00:57:48 ◼   ► That is a decrease in security of face ID.

00:57:51 ◼   ► Yeah, and it's something you accept and you have to enable if you want it.

00:57:54 ◼   ► Yeah, and so it could be a thing.

00:57:56 ◼   ► I don't see this happening, but I do understand how you've gotten there.

00:58:01 ◼   ► So good! So many feisty things happening.

00:58:05 ◼   ► Mine is about MagSafe.

00:58:06 ◼   ► MagSafe is updated with faster charging for new iPhones.

00:58:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:58:11 ◼   ► Similarly to Federico.

00:58:13 ◼   ► [laughs]

00:58:14 ◼   ► I don't understand. I don't think this would happen either.

00:58:17 ◼   ► I feel like...

00:58:18 ◼   ► You tell me what you're thinking here, Steven.

00:58:21 ◼   ► I'm thinking that Apple wants to push MagSafe further along,

00:58:27 ◼   ► And one way to do that is to enable faster wireless charging speeds, something we see

00:58:32 ◼   ► elsewhere in the industry.

00:58:35 ◼   ► And I think maybe what I would like to see is in these new phones, the, I guess the internals

00:58:43 ◼   ► of the phone, or maybe you need a new puck, hopefully you don't need a new puck, but...

00:58:47 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure you would need a new puck.

00:58:50 ◼   ► Probably.

00:58:51 ◼   ► The charging speeds are dictated by both parts, is my expectation.

00:58:56 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:58:57 ◼   ► know the chargers were always capable of more we just didn't know because we

00:59:00 ◼   ► didn't know and believe in their potential faster magsafe on the new

00:59:04 ◼   ► phones I would love it I using magsafe everywhere but it is it could be a lot

00:59:10 ◼   ► faster hmm so we have some follow-up from this cord there is an FCC filing for

00:59:19 ◼   ► a new type of magsafe connector that was published on 9 to 5 Mac oh is this a

00:59:25 ◼   ► lucky coincidence Steven I didn't see the story oh how convenient no sorry was

00:59:32 ◼   ► seen I feel like a FCC filing hurts my pick hey Steven hey Steven pick a

00:59:39 ◼   ► wattage ooh I'm making sure that there's nothing about wattage in this article

00:59:45 ◼   ► quick pick pick your wattage what's max safe now 15 15 the standard

00:59:54 ◼   ► MaxSafe charger charges up to 15 watts. If you use a 20 watt USB-C adapter. Oh yeah,

01:00:01 ◼   ► I mean go for 20. Yeah, I think 20. Really? I would have thought 30. No, you can just go

01:00:09 ◼   ► from 15 to 30. Come on. I think safe, I think if the 20 watt charger is a

01:00:16 ◼   ► requirement. Right now, I mean Apple says you need, yeah the 20 watt is the, is

01:00:21 ◼   ► is what's recommended, so.

01:00:23 ◼   ► MagSafe is updated to support 20 watt charging.

01:00:26 ◼   ► - But a new puck is required?

01:00:28 ◼   ► Would you add that?

01:00:29 ◼   ► Do you think that?

01:00:30 ◼   ► - I don't think I know enough about MagSafe to--

01:00:34 ◼   ► - Which is existing.

01:00:36 ◼   ► Puck will support this or not?

01:00:38 ◼   ► - Hi, is that even possible?

01:00:40 ◼   ► - Apple really likes selling accessories.

01:00:42 ◼   ► - So your pick is now,

01:00:44 ◼   ► MagSafe is updated to support 20 watt charging

01:00:47 ◼   ► but a new puck is required.

01:00:49 ◼   ► I like that.

01:00:50 ◼   ► - That feels pretty risky.

01:00:52 ◼   ► - It is very risky, I think.

01:00:54 ◼   ► - Well, I will ask you another question.

01:00:56 ◼   ► - Are you sure about this?

01:00:57 ◼   ► - I just wanna see.

01:00:59 ◼   ► I just wanna see if you're willing to change.

01:01:00 ◼   ► Like, would you specify the minimum wattage

01:01:04 ◼   ► of the wallet data?

01:01:07 ◼   ► Okay.

01:01:08 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:01:08 ◼   ► No, no, I will not.

01:01:11 ◼   ► I don't, I mean, I know that they've,

01:01:13 ◼   ► there's this FCC thing, whatever.

01:01:15 ◼   ► Like, I don't, I would be surprised if they--

01:01:19 ◼   ► to support at least 20 watt charging,

01:01:21 ◼   ► 20 watt charging or higher.

01:01:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

01:01:25 ◼   ► I would be surprised if they did this this soon too.

01:01:27 ◼   ► Like MagSafe just came out.

01:01:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, but I don't think it offers enough benefit

01:01:32 ◼   ► over regular wireless charging for people.

01:01:35 ◼   ► And so why not make MagSafe more alluring?

01:01:40 ◼   ► And one way to do that is to make it faster.

01:01:42 ◼   ► - I think to go like, say like, hey, here's this thing,

01:01:45 ◼   ► we would like you to buy them.

01:01:46 ◼   ► And then the next year saying,

01:01:47 ◼   ► you need to buy another one now to get the,

01:01:49 ◼   ► like, I think that's a bit,

01:01:51 ◼   ► that's bad even for Apple to be like year over year.

01:01:55 ◼   ► - They could say,

01:01:56 ◼   ► they could say the existing MagSafe is compatible.

01:01:58 ◼   ► - Of course.

01:01:59 ◼   ► - But if you wanna charge it faster,

01:02:01 ◼   ► you gotta get the new one.

01:02:02 ◼   ► - Plus, most people don't buy phones year over year.

01:02:05 ◼   ► - Right.

01:02:06 ◼   ► - Just the hardcore people.

01:02:06 ◼   ► - I think a lot of people that will buy an iPhone

01:02:09 ◼   ► and then buy a bunch of MagSafe charges

01:02:11 ◼   ► are the exact same people who buy an iPhone every year.

01:02:13 ◼   ► - Maybe, but maybe Apple's willing to sacrifice.

01:02:15 ◼   ► - Goodwill.

01:02:16 ◼   ► little bit for those people. Can we go over those again? Because they changed a lot. Yes.

01:02:20 ◼   ► So let's all read ours in order. An iPhone gets an always-on display with a UI element that is

01:02:26 ◼   ► reminiscent of Apple Watch complications. An iPhone gets an updated Face ID sensor

01:02:32 ◼   ► that supports partially occluded faces. MagSafe is updated to support 20 watt

01:02:37 ◼   ► charging or higher, but a new puck is required. And it rhymes too, that's nice.

01:02:43 ◼   ► yeah yeah I'm a Renaissance man Renaissance man of the people hmm I'll

01:02:51 ◼   ► be honest I don't think any of us again these honest I don't think any of us are

01:02:56 ◼   ► gonna get these maybe me but not you too no I think I'm gonna win I think I'm

01:03:01 ◼   ► gonna win this thing you think you're gonna win with oh yeah big time yes I

01:03:04 ◼   ► think I think Federico is a lock for round one and two I think that Myke is a

01:03:10 ◼   ► is a lock for round one and two.

01:03:13 ◼   ► I feel like I'm a lock for round one and maybe round two.

01:03:16 ◼   ► I feel like your round two pick is the least likely pick of all of the round one and two picks.

01:03:23 ◼   ► Steven's round two is a semi-risky.

01:03:27 ◼   ► Yeah, it's near risky.

01:03:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:03:29 ◼   ► It's a risky adjacent.

01:03:30 ◼   ► Risky adjacent!

01:03:33 ◼   ► I think Jason usually says this, which is, and I subscribe to it,

01:03:39 ◼   ► It's like something along the lines of like if you're betting on Apple to reduce prices. You're always like making a bad bet

01:03:46 ◼   ► What is this thing? Like the pricing is always like

01:03:48 ◼   ► Often and double or something of what you yeah, right? Yeah, but it's this nail equation

01:03:54 ◼   ► But this product is awesome, but he talks about that with new products

01:03:58 ◼   ► That's what his thing is if they're gonna announce a new

01:04:00 ◼   ► $80 price drop year over year is a lot

01:04:04 ◼   ► Yeah, but they want to sell Apple watches and they can't keep selling the series 3 we just talked about this

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01:05:41 ◼   ► - I would like to give some real-time follow-up

01:05:43 ◼   ► on the SNL equation, the pricing thing.

01:05:44 ◼   ► - Okay. - Okay.

01:05:45 ◼   ► - Take what you wish the price was,

01:05:47 ◼   ► then round it up and add $50.

01:05:50 ◼   ► So if Steven wants the Apple Watch to go down to,

01:05:55 ◼   ► what was the price that I said?

01:05:56 ◼   ► Was it $199?

01:05:59 ◼   ► So 250.

01:06:02 ◼   ► So it's going to go down by $29, the SE, to $250 based on the snail equation.

01:06:08 ◼   ► You can calculate a bunch of things with the snail equation.

01:06:10 ◼   ► I thought, I mean, we can maybe let him clarify, but I'm almost positive he's only talked about

01:06:14 ◼   ► this in terms of new products.

01:06:16 ◼   ► I don't think it's about price cuts.

01:06:18 ◼   ► But Jason put it in the Discord, so...

01:06:20 ◼   ► Yeah, but I mean, how do we even know it's him?

01:06:22 ◼   ► That's true.

01:06:23 ◼   ► He does say "draft monster," and he is a draft monster.

01:06:25 ◼   ► It's true.

01:06:26 ◼   ► Get used to disappointment.

01:06:27 ◼   ► Yep, that's Jason.

01:06:29 ◼   ► Jason says it is true that it's only for new products,

01:06:32 ◼   ► but he thinks disappointment should be a constant.

01:06:34 ◼   ► - Wait a second, hold on a second.

01:06:36 ◼   ► Can we get the Snell equation in Peacock?

01:06:38 ◼   ► - Maybe, you put it out there.

01:06:40 ◼   ► Typically that's all it takes.

01:06:42 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:06:43 ◼   ► - I said it, I said it.

01:06:45 ◼   ► - Put it out into the world.

01:06:46 ◼   ► - It'll come back to you.

01:06:48 ◼   ► - All right, Flexi time.

01:06:49 ◼   ► - Flexi time.

01:06:51 ◼   ► - So this was my original risky pick.

01:06:54 ◼   ► A new iPad Mini is introduced to a refreshed design,

01:06:57 ◼   ► new colors, previously not a part of the product,

01:07:00 ◼   ► USB-C, smart connector, and 5G support.

01:07:03 ◼   ► - The whole package.

01:07:05 ◼   ► - Give it to me.

01:07:06 ◼   ► - I figured I would just, this is what I want,

01:07:08 ◼   ► and so sometimes you just gotta put out

01:07:10 ◼   ► what you want in the world.

01:07:11 ◼   ► I think that's the secret, I think that's what that is.

01:07:14 ◼   ► So a new iPad Mini is introduced with a refreshed design,

01:07:17 ◼   ► new colors that are previously not a part of the product,

01:07:19 ◼   ► USB-C, smart connector, and 5G support.

01:07:23 ◼   ► - The smart connector's the only one I sort of wonder about,

01:07:25 ◼   ► And I've thought about it on and off as like,

01:07:29 ◼   ► the smart connector's only used for keyboards.

01:07:31 ◼   ► - Yeah, but I think they wanna put keyboards

01:07:32 ◼   ► on all their iPads.

01:07:33 ◼   ► - A teeny tiny keyboard?

01:07:36 ◼   ► - Bridge make one and it's great.

01:07:38 ◼   ► No, I don't think they're gonna put,

01:07:39 ◼   ► they're gonna make like a magic keyboard for iPad mini,

01:07:42 ◼   ► although how good would that be?

01:07:44 ◼   ► - A tiny trackpad. - Can you imagine?

01:07:46 ◼   ► But like, it would be this tiny computer.

01:07:48 ◼   ► I would love it.

01:07:49 ◼   ► - What's a computer? - I don't think

01:07:50 ◼   ► they would do, exactly, I don't think they would,

01:07:52 ◼   ► but they could do a smart keyboard for it,

01:07:55 ◼   ► I don't know. I would love it.

01:07:56 ◼   ► Like, I would love it, but I don't know.

01:07:59 ◼   ► But again, this is the part of it, right?

01:08:01 ◼   ► This is why I'm not convinced about any of this, really.

01:08:04 ◼   ► Like, I don't know if it's gonna happen now.

01:08:06 ◼   ► I could imagine them actually not having the iPad Mini

01:08:08 ◼   ► at this event.

01:08:09 ◼   ► USB-C, I would think they would do, but I don't know.

01:08:12 ◼   ► New colors.

01:08:15 ◼   ► What I was thinking here, by the way,

01:08:18 ◼   ► is like, would the iPad Mini start to pick up colors

01:08:21 ◼   ► from the iMac?

01:08:23 ◼   ► - Yeah. - You know?

01:08:24 ◼   ► Like that's all kind of the same motif.

01:08:28 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:08:29 ◼   ► So yeah, that's the product that I really want in the world,

01:08:31 ◼   ► but I don't know.

01:08:32 ◼   ► Similarly, I'm doing the same thing for my second Flexi.

01:08:35 ◼   ► There is a ceramic Apple Watch.

01:08:37 ◼   ► Most of my Flexi's is just me talking about things

01:08:41 ◼   ► that I want Apple to do,

01:08:42 ◼   ► and then hoping that I will be double pleased.

01:08:46 ◼   ► - Are you sure all of them are things you do not want?

01:08:48 ◼   ► - Not all, not all, not all, not all.

01:08:51 ◼   ► Don't worry.

01:08:53 ◼   ► I'm not here to upset you.

01:08:55 ◼   ► The new iPhone color will be a new version of a color

01:08:58 ◼   ► they've already used.

01:09:00 ◼   ► So blue or green or gold.

01:09:03 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:09:04 ◼   ► - So instead of being called like midnight blue,

01:09:06 ◼   ► it's called, I don't know, something else, night sky blue.

01:09:10 ◼   ► - It's like I don't think it's gonna be red

01:09:12 ◼   ► or I don't think it's gonna be like copper

01:09:14 ◼   ► or like, which is one that's been rumored.

01:09:16 ◼   ► Like I think it's gonna be like,

01:09:18 ◼   ► 'cause apparently as well,

01:09:19 ◼   ► one of the things was like matte black.

01:09:21 ◼   ► I mean, and that's a new version of a color

01:09:23 ◼   ► they've already used.

01:09:24 ◼   ► - Okay, okay, got it.

01:09:25 ◼   ► - You know, but like, I think they would do like,

01:09:27 ◼   ► see if it's gonna be blue, black, gray, silver, gold,

01:09:31 ◼   ► you know, rose gold, one of the existing colors

01:09:33 ◼   ► that's already existed before.

01:09:35 ◼   ► 'Cause I was thinking about this, like,

01:09:37 ◼   ► I don't think there are many more colors left

01:09:40 ◼   ► for like keeping that pro aesthetic.

01:09:43 ◼   ► Right, of this like dark professional, you know,

01:09:47 ◼   ► like what color would you do?

01:09:49 ◼   ► Which is also like a thing I don't understand.

01:09:52 ◼   ► Who said that professionals have to be dark

01:09:54 ◼   ► and you know, this, oh, dark blue.

01:09:56 ◼   ► - Oh no, I mean, they should do

01:09:58 ◼   ► like the big bright colors too.

01:09:59 ◼   ► I mean, that's what I want, but it's, you know.

01:10:01 ◼   ► - I wanna have a pro phone that's, you know,

01:10:05 ◼   ► purple or pink or whatever.

01:10:07 ◼   ► Like give me colors and can still be a pro.

01:10:11 ◼   ► Like it's, I honestly think it's somewhat condescending

01:10:14 ◼   ► to say, oh, it can only be a pro

01:10:16 ◼   ► if you use this black and dark blue color.

01:10:19 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like when they're just the space gray Mac Mini like it's gray. We know pros are gonna love that

01:10:23 ◼   ► It's like yes quiet like no one cares come down

01:10:26 ◼   ► We only had that things were dark colors when it was finally just not silver

01:10:33 ◼   ► Yeah, but the Mac Pro is silver and shiny you know there's no there's no rhyme reason to this I

01:10:38 ◼   ► do I

01:10:41 ◼   ► Just I just don't know what to think Jason said nighttime lemon

01:10:46 ◼   ► It's just very funny to me.

01:10:48 ◼   ► It's a very good color.

01:10:50 ◼   ► It's just a lemon when you turn the lights off.

01:10:52 ◼   ► It's interesting because one of my flexis sort of conflicts with yours,

01:10:56 ◼   ► but now I'm very concerned that I don't know what color it would be,

01:11:00 ◼   ► unless it's that bronzy, coppery color that's been rumored.

01:11:03 ◼   ► Yeah, but I don't know about that one.

01:11:05 ◼   ► What else do you have?

01:11:07 ◼   ► So I had ceramic Apple Watch. I said that one already.

01:11:10 ◼   ► Yeah, new Apple Watch is not a part of the presentation.

01:11:13 ◼   ► I'm like flexing against myself.

01:11:17 ◼   ► - So what you've done is you've guaranteed

01:11:19 ◼   ► you can't get all of your flexies.

01:11:21 ◼   ► - I'm fine with that.

01:11:22 ◼   ► - Okay, money's on the line.

01:11:24 ◼   ► - Release date for iOS 15 is announced

01:11:26 ◼   ► and it's later than 24 hours away.

01:11:29 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna do that again.

01:11:30 ◼   ► I think that was something that they did

01:11:33 ◼   ► purely because the iPhone event was in October.

01:11:36 ◼   ► Like I don't think that this is like a new thing.

01:11:39 ◼   ► I think like it had been left for too long

01:11:41 ◼   ► and they had to get it out so they put it out.

01:11:43 ◼   ► I think it's going to be like,

01:11:45 ◼   ► "Oh, it's going to come out in 10 days or whatever,"

01:11:48 ◼   ► you know, like it used to, right?

01:11:50 ◼   ► It's like the beginning of the week that the iPhones come out.

01:11:53 ◼   ► Like I don't--

01:11:54 ◼   ► They just needed to have it out and on phones

01:11:57 ◼   ► before the new phones started chipping.

01:11:58 ◼   ► And they, you know, it was just like,

01:12:00 ◼   ► it was a whole big mess that year.

01:12:01 ◼   ► I don't think that it is an indication of anything.

01:12:04 ◼   ► That is my own, like, if I, you know,

01:12:07 ◼   ► if I was in Federico shoes, I would, you know,

01:12:09 ◼   ► I would not feel like this, right?

01:12:11 ◼   ► I would be like, well, I must prepare just in case.

01:12:14 ◼   ► Or if I'm in a developer's shoes,

01:12:15 ◼   ► like I must prepare just in case.

01:12:17 ◼   ► But for me personally, I don't think it's happening

01:12:19 ◼   ► for like, you know, 10 days or whatever.

01:12:22 ◼   ► - No, I'm not thinking about it that way this year.

01:12:25 ◼   ► Like, I am not going to be, like I can tell you

01:12:29 ◼   ► that I'm not gonna be one month late for sure.

01:12:33 ◼   ► Like I'm not gonna be ready on the 15th.

01:12:36 ◼   ► If they say it's coming out tomorrow, I will not be ready.

01:12:39 ◼   ► what is it, next Wednesday, I will not be ready in a week.

01:12:42 ◼   ► But I am also not going to be one month late either.

01:12:48 ◼   ► So I'm in pretty good shape.

01:12:49 ◼   ► I think I'm in very good shape for the following week,

01:12:54 ◼   ► which would be sort of the regular schedule,

01:12:58 ◼   ► sort of pre-2020, how Apple used to do things with iOS.

01:13:03 ◼   ► If they go back to that sort of schedule,

01:13:06 ◼   ► Usually iOS comes out on the Wednesday and new iPhones come out on the Friday.

01:13:11 ◼   ► I should be good with that.

01:13:13 ◼   ► So you are both hoping for that and preparing for that, right?

01:13:19 ◼   ► Like the more how it used to be.

01:13:21 ◼   ► Yes.

01:13:21 ◼   ► Cool.

01:13:22 ◼   ► I'm not stressing for, oh, I have to be ready for next Wednesday.

01:13:26 ◼   ► No, because last year showed me that even a month later, it still went amazingly well.

01:13:33 ◼   ► Was it a month?

01:13:34 ◼   ► It was a month later.

01:13:36 ◼   ► Man, I didn't know it was that long.

01:13:38 ◼   ► Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:39 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:13:39 ◼   ► It was a challenging year.

01:13:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:13:42 ◼   ► Steven, you're up next.

01:13:44 ◼   ► I am.

01:13:45 ◼   ► For the flexes? Okay.

01:13:46 ◼   ► Yeah, 'cause Steven came second.

01:13:49 ◼   ► In the flexes.

01:13:49 ◼   ► Ah, right, right.

01:13:50 ◼   ► Yeah, the flexes.

01:13:51 ◼   ► Oh yeah, because I picked like 10 flexes.

01:13:53 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:54 ◼   ► You got over excited.

01:13:56 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

01:13:58 ◼   ► Bad idea.

01:13:59 ◼   ► The iPhone Pro comes in five colors/finishes,

01:14:02 ◼   ► not the traditional four.

01:14:04 ◼   ► So you've taken mine,

01:14:05 ◼   ► and you've just gone in the complete opposite direction.

01:14:08 ◼   ► - Well, they could just have graphite, silver, gold,

01:14:13 ◼   ► and then just bring back the blue and green.

01:14:16 ◼   ► I just, instead of four options, there'll be five.

01:14:18 ◼   ► I don't know what they'll be.

01:14:19 ◼   ► - So you think they're gonna do five colors of four phones?

01:14:22 ◼   ► - Five colors of four phones, yeah, why not?

01:14:25 ◼   ► They do like six colors of two phones in the regular line.

01:14:29 ◼   ► - Not at the beginning.

01:14:31 ◼   ► - They added purple, they added one color.

01:14:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, but they do it later.

01:14:34 ◼   ► But it's just one. I think it'll be fine.

01:14:37 ◼   ► - All right. That's a lot of colors, man.

01:14:39 ◼   ► - Yeah. Just going wild with it.

01:14:43 ◼   ► The Apple Watch moves to 5G networking.

01:14:45 ◼   ► - Huh.

01:14:46 ◼   ► - It's bigger, maybe, as we have discussed.

01:14:49 ◼   ► - 5G in the Apple Watch.

01:14:52 ◼   ► I don't know about that.

01:14:54 ◼   ► I feel like it's gonna kill the battery,

01:14:55 ◼   ► like murder the battery.

01:14:57 ◼   ► - Out of all of mine,

01:14:59 ◼   ► this is the one that I was most conflicted about, so.

01:15:02 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:15:04 ◼   ► Maybe it should have been a risky.

01:15:05 ◼   ► This is good as a flexi.

01:15:06 ◼   ► This would be a like,

01:15:08 ◼   ► it's like you might as well give up kind of a regular pick, I think.

01:15:12 ◼   ► Like I could imagine them, I could see how you get there

01:15:14 ◼   ► because it's like this big thing that they talk about all the time, right?

01:15:16 ◼   ► So like they would love to just say 5G more often.

01:15:20 ◼   ► But I think it might be, it feels like it might be too soon,

01:15:23 ◼   ► but I don't know.

01:15:24 ◼   ► Like it took them quite a few,

01:15:25 ◼   ► like three revisions of the Apple Watch

01:15:26 ◼   ► before they put any cell connectivity in.

01:15:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:15:29 ◼   ► Yeah, we'll see.

01:15:31 ◼   ► We'll see.

01:15:33 ◼   ► A new AirPods product is announced.

01:15:35 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

01:15:36 ◼   ► Pro, regular something.

01:15:38 ◼   ► Max.

01:15:39 ◼   ► Max.

01:15:40 ◼   ► Not the Max.

01:15:41 ◼   ► AirPods Max 2.

01:15:42 ◼   ► It's probably going to be the regular AirPods, right?

01:15:43 ◼   ► Like all the rumors suggest, redesigned to look like the Pro.

01:15:48 ◼   ► Yep.

01:15:49 ◼   ► Yep.

01:15:50 ◼   ► I was on a call with Steven yesterday and he was wearing the original ones and it looked

01:15:52 ◼   ► so weird to me.

01:15:54 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't have the AirPods Pro.

01:15:57 ◼   ► But the long, like the really long.

01:15:58 ◼   ► Yeah, Sylvia still uses the AirPods 2.

01:16:00 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:16:01 ◼   ► Yeah, it's kind of weird. I know. They look strange.

01:16:04 ◼   ► But honestly, like, also, I'm kind of intrigued by the AirPods 3.

01:16:10 ◼   ► Because... I don't know, I really don't like...

01:16:14 ◼   ► Like, I've been trying to make the in-ear tips work for me.

01:16:20 ◼   ► Now I'm actually waiting for this new sort of hybrid silicon and foam tips that

01:16:25 ◼   ► I think Chris Lawley recommended to me in our Discord.

01:16:29 ◼   ► It was much easier when I was using the regular AirPods without having to care about the tape material, you know, or size.

01:16:38 ◼   ► And I kind of miss those days, but also I really like noise cancellation.

01:16:42 ◼   ► One of mine always falls out. The left one always falls out.

01:16:44 ◼   ► It doesn't matter what I do, like it will always fall out.

01:16:46 ◼   ► And I've just decided to just live with it because I really like the AirPods Pro.

01:16:50 ◼   ► Me too. That's my problem. So yeah. Anyway, Steven, go on.

01:16:54 ◼   ► - All right, up next I have Apple TV+ content

01:16:59 ◼   ► is featured in keynote, in the keynote.

01:17:02 ◼   ► - Feels very likely.

01:17:03 ◼   ► - California streaming, baby.

01:17:05 ◼   ► - That would have been a good pick for you, I think.

01:17:07 ◼   ► 'Cause they've got like two shows,

01:17:09 ◼   ► two big shows coming up, one new,

01:17:11 ◼   ► and so they have the morning show,

01:17:12 ◼   ► it's just around the corner, and then they have--

01:17:14 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:17:15 ◼   ► - What is that?

01:17:16 ◼   ► - Foundations. - The Isaac Hasimov show.

01:17:17 ◼   ► Foundation is starting--

01:17:19 ◼   ► - Look, there's always Ted Lasso, okay?

01:17:21 ◼   ► There's always that. - There's always Ted Lasso.

01:17:24 ◼   ► Man, what if Ted Lasso comes out on stage?

01:17:26 ◼   ► They're gonna do it at some point.

01:17:28 ◼   ► Ooh, yes.

01:17:29 ◼   ► I think their first, like, in-person event again, so they just walk out to introduce it.

01:17:35 ◼   ► They're gonna bring out Ted Lasso?

01:17:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:17:37 ◼   ► They come out and do some football tricks or something.

01:17:39 ◼   ► And lastly, no specific pre-order date is set for the Apple Watch.

01:17:46 ◼   ► Huh, well they'll just say, like, later this month or something?

01:17:50 ◼   ► Next month, yes.

01:17:51 ◼   ► - Oh, smart, that's a good way of doing it.

01:17:55 ◼   ► - They've done that.

01:17:56 ◼   ► - They've done that, they did it with the iPad Air,

01:17:57 ◼   ► and then it came out like a month later,

01:17:59 ◼   ► and there's rumors of supply issues with the Apple Watch.

01:18:04 ◼   ► And so they say, hey, for example,

01:18:07 ◼   ► you can pre-order the phone on the day of the podcast-a-thon

01:18:12 ◼   ► Friday, September 17th, and the Apple Watch will be up

01:18:16 ◼   ► for pre-order a few weeks after that, something like that.

01:18:20 ◼   ► I was thinking I really hope that they do the pre-orders early in the day for me because

01:18:24 ◼   ► Pre-ordering an iPhone during the podcast of thons gonna be an awkward time. It's gonna be awesome

01:18:29 ◼   ► So I feel I feel pretty good about most of mine except for the 5g networking on the Apple watch

01:18:34 ◼   ► I'm just throwing that in because you just never know

01:18:37 ◼   ► It's a flex

01:18:41 ◼   ► Okay, are they going to say the day of the podcast is on on stage clearly?

01:18:45 ◼   ► Hope so

01:18:47 ◼   ► All right teachy take us home. I

01:18:50 ◼   ► I came up with just five flexes. I'm not doing the 10 flexy thing anymore.

01:18:54 ◼   ► I was actually more surprised to open a document and see just five.

01:18:58 ◼   ► They're still passionate picks. I want to just reassure our listeners.

01:19:03 ◼   ► They have my passion in them. So, you know, it's guaranteed passion. That's what I'm gonna say.

01:19:10 ◼   ► iOS 15 releases the following week

01:19:14 ◼   ► To the public so it comes out the the week after the Apple event so starting from what is it?

01:19:21 ◼   ► Monday the 20th yeah, so that's that's like being more

01:19:26 ◼   ► That's being more specific than Myke's flexi. It's a risky flexi

01:19:31 ◼   ► Yeah, the week after basically iOS comes out the week after

01:19:35 ◼   ► The ninth generation iPad is introduced so the base model iPad

01:19:43 ◼   ► With a USB C connector, so I think they're gonna announce the new base model iPad and it's gonna have USB C

01:19:50 ◼   ► In fact, I think all of the iPads that we're gonna see now going forward will move to USB C

01:19:55 ◼   ► Base model the iPad air already has it

01:19:58 ◼   ► What's missing is the base model iPad and the iPad mini and I think Apple really wants to unify

01:20:04 ◼   ► The story there and so I think we're gonna see the base model iPad with the USB C

01:20:11 ◼   ► Third, Flexi. No date is provided for macOS Monterey.

01:20:16 ◼   ► I don't even think they'll talk about Monterey.

01:20:18 ◼   ► I don't even think they'll talk about it either, but if they mention it, it seems possible that they're gonna mention it.

01:20:26 ◼   ► But I don't think they will go further than a mention of macOS Monterey. They will not give us a release date for that.

01:20:33 ◼   ► that new AirPods announced with the MagSafe compatible case.

01:20:38 ◼   ► I think it could be kind of interesting to see MagSafe

01:20:42 ◼   ► in the AirPods case.

01:20:43 ◼   ► - I actually think this was part of the FTC thing.

01:20:46 ◼   ► This doesn't make a difference for a Flexi,

01:20:48 ◼   ► but I think I saw something about that too.

01:20:51 ◼   ► I didn't remember seeing anything about a new MagSafe,

01:20:54 ◼   ► but I do remember seeing something in the past few days

01:20:56 ◼   ► about a MagSafe and AirPod thing.

01:21:00 ◼   ► - So I'm happy to know that.

01:21:02 ◼   ► Nice. I mean, I can use the Flexi though, right?

01:21:06 ◼   ► - Oh yeah. - Yeah, yeah, Flexis.

01:21:07 ◼   ► Flexis. - Flexis, fine.

01:21:08 ◼   ► So AirPods with the MagSafe case could be nice.

01:21:11 ◼   ► And lastly, I think Apple will announce

01:21:15 ◼   ► at least one feature that will be coming later

01:21:19 ◼   ► in the iOS 15 cycle.

01:21:21 ◼   ► - What does this mean?

01:21:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, are they announcing a feature

01:21:24 ◼   ► or are they announcing a feature

01:21:26 ◼   ► that's already been announced but it's late?

01:21:28 ◼   ► See the difference?

01:21:30 ◼   ► No, at least one new feature.

01:21:32 ◼   ► There you go.

01:21:33 ◼   ► So it's new, coming to iOS.

01:21:36 ◼   ► So you know how, what was it called?

01:21:38 ◼   ► You had a win in your hands and you just dropped it.

01:21:41 ◼   ► No, no, no, it's fine.

01:21:43 ◼   ► I think they've already said all the things

01:21:45 ◼   ► they're gonna say about what is not coming.

01:21:48 ◼   ► Hold on, yes.

01:21:50 ◼   ► You remember when they did, what was the name?

01:21:53 ◼   ► The guy with a sweater feature.

01:21:55 ◼   ► You were all, no.

01:21:57 ◼   ► No.

01:21:58 ◼   ► Knipes, magic fusion.

01:21:59 ◼   ► - Magic fusion. - No.

01:22:01 ◼   ► - It's... - Flak...

01:22:03 ◼   ► Fluid fusion?

01:22:05 ◼   ► Cold fusion?

01:22:07 ◼   ► - Deep fusion. - Deep fusion.

01:22:09 ◼   ► Which, by the way, I just want to go on record

01:22:11 ◼   ► and say I think that makes my images

01:22:13 ◼   ► worse sometimes. It over-sharpenes

01:22:15 ◼   ► them and makes them look darker.

01:22:17 ◼   ► And I do not... I don't think I like that feature.

01:22:19 ◼   ► Yeah. Me neither.

01:22:21 ◼   ► I'm putting that on record.

01:22:22 ◼   ► They announced it. It was a new feature, and they said

01:22:24 ◼   ► it's coming later. And I think

01:22:26 ◼   ► they will likely do the same

01:22:28 ◼   ► with another new feature.

01:22:29 ◼   ► Portrait mode was the same too, right?

01:22:32 ◼   ► Portrait mode was the same, exactly.

01:22:35 ◼   ► There's a bunch of rumors floating around, portrait video, cinematic mode, ProRes coming

01:22:41 ◼   ► to the iPhone's camera, that, like especially the ProRes one, feels like easily could be

01:22:48 ◼   ► a feature that they announce on stage, and they said, "And this will be coming later."

01:22:53 ◼   ► Or maybe even say, "It will be coming in 15.1," for example.

01:22:56 ◼   ► Pro-roll was last year, it was one of these. Pro-roll did not ship.

01:23:01 ◼   ► It was coming later, and we all use it every day and love it.

01:23:05 ◼   ► At least one new feature coming later in the iOS 15 cycle.

01:23:10 ◼   ► That's it. That's the Ricky's.

01:23:12 ◼   ► We're done.

01:23:14 ◼   ► We're done. Come back next week to see who wins, who is the loser,

01:23:19 ◼   ► who is donating money to a worthy cause. I'm excited.

01:23:24 ◼   ► I mean, it's going to be St. Jude, right?

01:23:26 ◼   ► If it's, yeah, I mean, if it's your choice and you don't pick St. Jude in the month of

01:23:29 ◼   ► September National

01:23:56 ◼   ► I'm excited though. I'm genuinely very excited though.

01:24:01 ◼   ► Do it for the kids and do it for the kids at St. Jude.

01:24:05 ◼   ► You know, the children listening to the show. I don't know.

01:24:08 ◼   ► I hope children don't listen to the show.

01:24:10 ◼   ► Why not? It's family friendly.

01:24:12 ◼   ► Yeah, I know. I don't feel like we're setting a good example.

01:24:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean we did follow the rules, so that's a good example.

01:24:19 ◼   ► We also make the rules.

01:24:21 ◼   ► That's true.

01:24:22 ◼   ► Kids don't get to do that.

01:24:24 ◼   ► That's true.

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01:24:41 ◼   ► This week on the pro version of the show,

01:24:44 ◼   ► we talked about soundbars, we talked about microphones,

01:24:48 ◼   ► we talked about emails that Federico gets.

01:24:53 ◼   ► It was good. It was really good.

01:24:54 ◼   ► - It was really good.

01:24:55 ◼   ► - You can find us all on Twitter.

01:24:57 ◼   ► You can find Myke there as I-M-Y-K-E.

01:24:59 ◼   ► Myke, what do you have going on the rest of the week?

01:25:02 ◼   ► - On Saturday at 11.30 a.m. Eastern Time,

01:25:07 ◼   ► I'm gonna start a stream where I'm building a keyboard.

01:25:12 ◼   ► It was one of our fundraising goals.

01:25:14 ◼   ► And it's gonna take a really long time to build it.

01:25:17 ◼   ► Also, we're doing a draft.

01:25:19 ◼   ► We're doing an upgrade draft on Friday.

01:25:21 ◼   ► So that will be coming out on Friday and over the weekend because you know

01:25:24 ◼   ► We have to do these extra episodes now because we record on Mondays and Apple puts their event invites out on Tuesdays

01:25:30 ◼   ► So we have to squeeze in another episode. So that's coming on Friday

01:25:34 ◼   ► All right

01:25:36 ◼   ► That's gonna be fun. I'm looking forward to upgrade

01:25:38 ◼   ► Thank you and the stream. I don't want to pick a favorite amongst your projects. You can know the upgrade

01:25:46 ◼   ► You can find Federico on Twitter v. I T I CCI Federico. Give us a very quick review update if you don't mind I

01:25:53 ◼   ► Think I'm gonna be wrapping up the writing

01:25:58 ◼   ► like of the whole thing

01:26:01 ◼   ► tomorrow I am

01:26:03 ◼   ► Almost done with the everything else chapter

01:26:07 ◼   ► That's gonna be done tomorrow for sure and then after that it's just a conclusion

01:26:13 ◼   ► That's awesome. But then editing and stuff like that. Screenshots.

01:26:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I've been doing like writing during the day and editing at night.

01:26:22 ◼   ► So I'm sort of doing on parallel tracks. Day words, night words.

01:26:26 ◼   ► Yes, day words and night words. But once I'm done with writing, it's all gonna be editing

01:26:31 ◼   ► until I'm done. And I've also been preparing some really fun perks for club members this year.

01:26:39 ◼   ► and I'm gonna split them across the, you know, the different kinds of members that we have.

01:26:44 ◼   ► So it's gonna be extra fun. We're doing a lot of things this time and

01:26:48 ◼   ► it's gonna be a lot of editing ahead of me and I can tell you that I didn't write 75,000 words,

01:26:56 ◼   ► thankfully, but I still wrote 50 of them. - Just 50 words. It's a very short review.

01:27:05 ◼   ► Very short review, no 50,000. So it's still 25,000 fewer words than last year, so yay me.

01:27:13 ◼   ► But yeah, still quite a review. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter as ismh and my writing over

01:27:22 ◼   ► at 512pixels.net. Please go donate to St. Jude, that is stjude.org/relay. I'd like to thank our

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01:27:35 ◼   ► gentlemen, say goodbye. Adios, bye-bye. Bye y'all.