00:00:01 ◼ ► potatoes so it made into blind taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► difference on my cot your stupid videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► it's not burned its purple just eat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► so as chief summarizer in chief that job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/7">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► is usually quite delightful but on rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/13">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► delightful and and we're recording the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► night of november nine 2016 last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► are our country made a very peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► choice that none of the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► agree with and we were debating what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► do about the presidential election and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► when how we should handle it what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/38">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► should say about what we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► about and the conclusion of the three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► us came to is we wanted to acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► that it is the thing and it happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/46">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► it's going to do me some good to forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► about this for a little while i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► it's going to do you guys some good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► genuinely no star contended it's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► hope that it will do you the listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► some good to not think about that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► while I'm upset I'm frustrated and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► angry but but really I'm gonna get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► these macro soon for the macbook person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► I ruin my own joke look at that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► how angry I that's where we're all yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► we're going to totally fix that in post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► but anyway but no seriously though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► know what I I all kidding aside we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► all frustrated were all upset and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► give you guys a chance to weigh and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but it's gonna be business as usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► around here and bring a try our best to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► yeah and i do want to clarify like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► know where we're not i'm not for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► happened and I and I I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► pretend that didn't happen i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► to forget what this means what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► signifies to so many Americans this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► is not going to be forgotten at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► we have a texture to do so we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► to the tech show and hopefully that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► help us and our listeners temporarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► get a reprieve from what has happened at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► the show must go on as they say we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► talked about this before we will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► on social topics what has the intersect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► with tech and this you know potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► intersects with everything but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► this falls into the category of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► something really big happens it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► weird if we didn't acknowledge it but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► the same token but especially with how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► all three of us are feeling today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► now a lot of a lot of listeners are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/147">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► regular show as a brief respite from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► what we've all been dealing with today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► and we'll be dealing with going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► yeah so let's start with some follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► is psycho rights in to say Apple did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► ship in ed ram / iris pro skylake on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► 15-inch macbook it is HD 530i is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► we're talking about video cards is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► right yeah that was in my reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► what I was talking about in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► show or I said that Apple kind of is put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► yourself in a difficult position by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► demanding the the highest and fanciest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► version of all the chips especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► the biggest GPU embedded in them and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► better if they were with the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► trips and just use the discreet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► that's what they actually did on the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► instruments not wimpy it's the 83 530 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► one of the better ones but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► one with the embedded dram and the Irish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► and now i'm not saying Irish pro which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► is what everyone here is probably what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► I'm trying to say iris pro but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/207">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► alright moving along the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► apparently registers past the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► area particularly on the left-hand side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► well I guess is not a kid anymore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► escape button would be okay can we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► about how we know this or should we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► talk about how we know this there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► French website that posted something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► that someone our listener translated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► me but the the difference that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► we're discussing like it's a shame that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► they didn't have the touch part always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/241">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► had left because you can reach the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► left-hand corner and feel for it and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/243">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► that part of that screen we knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/248">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► for a fact from the from day one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► part is not a screen you can't draw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► escape button up against the left end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► the bar question was alright so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► no image there but is it touch sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► and the answer is about half to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► touch-sensitive like so if you just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► the blank space where you can't show any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► outside of the touch bar and divide it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► in half vertically the left half of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► does nothing you hit it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► anything it's not touch sensitive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/272">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► not pressure-sensitive doesn't light up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► the right half of the blank region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► doesn't light up but does register your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► touch in some way and because it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► the width of your finger you can pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► much take your finger and jam it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► left side of the touch bar and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► activate the Escape key in fact it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► activate the escapee even have no part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► of your fingers actually touching any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► the pixels that make up the Escape key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► whatever so it's kind of a weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► compromise like the almost got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► edge but not quite and I guess maybe one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► and I fix it doesn't tear now maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► they'll figure out why like how did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► touch sensors extend that far how far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► does the you know the screen go and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► have either of you done with the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► simulated touch bar on an ipad yet know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/312">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► yeah but it's the wrong size isn't it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► it since it would be much of a test of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► anything it's interesting like iran iran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► that way yesterday for a while i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► interesting well iguess looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► forget your off hand but Stephen Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► transfer has been tweeting a lot here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► and there and different things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► basically like you have to have xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you have to install the special build of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► 10-12 one that isn't the real 10-12 one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► different build number you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► download separately most websites kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► of a mess data working together like get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► it running on an ipad which means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► have to have a signing provisioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► profile and everything but if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/348">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► it is interesting to see and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► i just i place my 9.7 inch iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► right in on top my keyboard kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► the right spot where it should be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► it's interesting like you know so as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► mentioned it is significantly smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► than the real touch pocket but i'm able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► to estimate from pictures that the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► touch bar is 11 inches long or 10 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► long or something like that and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► ipad 9.7 type the side screen is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► seven points something inches long so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► it's substantially smaller and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► tell it to touch targets do feel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► when you run the simulator but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► throughout the osu to see what the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► bar actually does and how it responds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► different things that are available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► you know as as i mentioned the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► this really is showing an apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► putting a lot of effort into the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► the mac is not just some totally dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► platform of them because they have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► of stuff for the touch bar already like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► it is so much so many built-in apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► already support the touch bar with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► pretty useful stuff like there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► like one doesn't like and I itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► widget that's kind of always showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► whatever itunes doing anything it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► like a little equalizer and you can tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/423">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► that and it converts the whole bar into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► basically an itunes scrubber with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► couple of you know play/pause button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► its icon and you can just leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► open the whole time the organs you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► if you if you liked the script their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► songs or to see that your progress their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► song which is important to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► such incredibly lazy song as I do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► actually kinda nice to see and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► and you can play with all the stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► on the side that actually works pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► well i would say if you are curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► about the touch bar and if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► have the patience and skill required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► you know use xcode to open some open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► source thing and provision to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► run and ipad it's kinda cool to see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► but again like i'm not sure i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► recommend it for full-time use unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► you have a 12-point ipad brokers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► that actually would be big enough i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► think i think that'd be about the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► size but online points evidence it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► pretty tiny but it's cool to see and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► works surprisingly well it's responsive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► surprisingly good for this like two day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► a two-day-old hack basically it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► amazing to have this running on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► and I will say though having run this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► this little thing above my keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► my desktop I think John's concerns last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► episode about the the ergonomics of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► looking up and down so far between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► desktop screen and the frontier keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► and at that distance being way further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► than how you how you adjust your eyes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► a laptop that is a real problem and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► it's a problem enough that it's i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► entirely sure the touch bar on desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► is ever going to make a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► just because that really is odd and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/513">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► kind of uncomfortable i will say though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► that now that I've seen how well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► works it is kind of interesting idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► that what if Apple made an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► touch bar that was just it by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► keyboard necessarily mean maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► get a keyboard that have fun with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► maybe they also sell an extra one like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► mean this is wishful thinking i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/536">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► think they actually would do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► this like once you use an iPad like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► you see like this actually does work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► is kinda useful and there could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► something here if it was done well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► did you put the external touch bar above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► your keyboard simply put mine but isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► it that's the same problem with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► desktop thing of like the photo business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► change everything like what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► solved by having just a random external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► well you have quick access to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► it's it's kind of like having media keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► steroids but you have to look at them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► have to look at most of my keys most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► the time too because I never remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► what I don't you you probably had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► glance may be too because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► you're going for somewhere on the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/576">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► like whatever that you're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► different and reading and just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► know glancing to see where it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► well but they're always in the same spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► like you know like when if you something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► if you use a frequent item a lot always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► going to be right there i mean yeah as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► long as that happens from most like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► that's the tricky but how did you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► that in terms of the context switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► especially for media keys and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► I'm used to having play/pause on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► keyboard to the toilet you know to pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► itunes at work but doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► happened my text editor i can't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► something but I've never actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► well I wasn't using many third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► apps i was only using apple ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► have support for this but things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► having like it when I mentioned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► expanded iTunes U with the scrubber that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► stays up even if itunes is not frontmost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/618">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► which is kinda cool like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► that's just like it's one of the modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► you know you like there's like all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► like.the control strip part you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► that so that's always there getting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► the right you can toggle on certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► modes that persist until you change them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► and that's just one of those modes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► one of them is like the old function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► one of them is the itunes thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► guys never use the real control pitcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► congratulations once it was pluggable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/641">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► you could buy third-party things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► would add new tiles so the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► script and you could you know configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► yeah it was really nice so it's come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► back button on my keyboard comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► the other side by default actually can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► move the control so can you can make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► try it's always on the right side I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► sure they'll be a plist entry for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► no well you can even put the doctor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► edge anymore are you kidding that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► you never mess with those sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► things kids is why you embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► defaults right I'm I fast for the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► scrubber that's one of my frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► with quicktime player and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/678">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► many reasons why i still have quicktime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► player 7 installed and hope it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► breaks is frequently if I mean I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► probably use a real audio editor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► vision or something and sometimes i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/688">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► but sometimes you just want to open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► an audio file and scrub to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► time stamp and it's a really long file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► because it's like a podcast or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► and you just can't do it in like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► the the audio window is small so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► opened in QuickTime 7 and I stretch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► audio window to really wide and yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► I have a scrubber that's the entire with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► my screen to give me the resolution I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► suppose that the quicktime player to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► point is I'm i'm making a window bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► on a non visual medium the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► I'm making the window bigger because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► want more precision in the scrubber this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► brings us back to our old discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► about ideas of zooming and scrubbed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► stuff but anyway if you have a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► that is the width of a qwerty keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► that's pretty good scrubber length then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► you probably get decent resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► they're not as big as you get maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► like a giant 5k display where you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► the entire width of the thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► know I mean a certain point you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► just open audio editor and zoom in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► the way for my understand that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► one of those hacks that you do so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► summary Marco touch bar tentatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► optimistic i mean you sound pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► pleased with it in principle I mean I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► again I didn't get to try a real one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► time will tell on this again it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► I i think if I were buying again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► what I what I said last episode of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► yeah if I were buying a laptop a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► laptop today and I intended to use it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► my primary computer i would get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► touch bar because it will I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► will probably end up being really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► reviewer seem to have them now so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► should here fairly soon from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► have actual hands-on experience for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► than 10 minutes we should hear from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► how these are in practice and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► hopefully sometime soon people actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► start being able to own these things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/791">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► in the initial orders have shipped yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► they all had like that to three weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► ship date estimate at first so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► think anybody actually has one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► except a couple of reviewers but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► look forward to hearing what they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► having use the real one not some ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/807">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► eventually maybe john told me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► all-in-one this is a topic that has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► up lots of past shows and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► gaining steam as people here is known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► about the mac pro and Marco a big piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► about the advantages of pro and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► and it's seeming to me you know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/833">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► many months out from any potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► movement on this front that if Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► not going to make another mac pro in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► style that we expected to be as in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► computer that doesn't have a monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► like they're you know they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► if they're reimagining the mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► something other than a trashcan most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► likely reimagining is what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► keeps referring to as an imac pro which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► is the big 5k screen with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► computer crap stuck to the back of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► and the only difference would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► the computer craft stuff to the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► questions like can you fit a xeon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► there can you actually put a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► graphics card in there there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► room behind a 5k display obviously they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► wanted to be super skinny and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► kind of like that their own self-imposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► constraints especially in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/884">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► the display because they didn't even see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► that when you're looking at the front it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► doesn't need to be portable except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► the guy who brings imac to panera bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► yeah I so you know realistically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► could totally do that now if Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► it I assume they would make their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► more difficult by still trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► it thin and using all their skills honed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► by working on the super slim macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► pros and on their I devices to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► to make it skinny and use clever heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► routing and venting and special fans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► whatever to make it so it doesn't melt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► well as I'd well about the mac pro in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► I started thinking about a macpro that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► looks like an imac and thinking they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► fit some pretty good stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► maybe they won't even go as the ensemble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► just try to use better desktop chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► have a higher ram ceiling and a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► GPU maybe it really literally is named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► my mac pro or maybe just called mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► in the new mac pro is an all-in-one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► bargaining stage here I might just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► to say that get out of my head all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► gosh make me a matte black mac pro shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► thing with a decent GPU and aziani see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/956">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► yeah i mean that's I would love that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► self i would absolutely love that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► another thing is like you know again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► mean this totally is bargaining but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► this point i'll take what we can get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► know if they can make something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► mac pro like that happens to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► all-in-one that will cut out certain use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► cases that will make certain people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► would have bought our mac pro not buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and that will possibly hurt sales but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► that's what Apple has to do to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► palatable to Tim Cook and jony ive then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► I guess we'll be no I I would take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► over no mac pro you know so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► but I i think the question of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► could put into that depends entirely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the cooling setup you know if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► at the way the two mac pro is setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► which by the way like and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► mention this too much in the post i but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► the two Mac Pro has a serious problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► that the GPUs die frequently and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► this has never really been much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► public eye because not a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► on these machines are also speaking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► that there's a massive like GPU death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► flaw in the tube mac pro I brought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► up about about your article you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► add it to your article to do well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► a lot of people have first asking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► question of like why do I presume the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► mac pro is dead and i'll tell you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► now we've heard tips from so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► different sources and they all conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► with each other every single every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► single tip we've heard it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► from a different referred some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► I've heard that the mac pro is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► dead I've heard that the mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► on hold I've heard the mac pro is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► dead but going to take a different form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► that the mac pro is very much alive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► the mac pro is coming between last month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► and next summer but I think all those I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► think all those things the reason I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► not big on the imac programmers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► i think it fits all of them because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► what they really mean is the trashcan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► instead check people say it's coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► in a new form that's that's the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► proform factor the dates nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► well what I haven't heard of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► like this guy like me or not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► that's really i think that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► about the death of the net profits if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► it's not the Xenon's it's just a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► trips with a better see you then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► literally is just a better iMac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► you know hey we'll take what we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► but but I getting back to cooling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► one of the things you listed on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► article we have mac pro is so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► you know how like a laptop when you push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► it hard and the imac doesn't how like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► laptop that kind of moans like an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► like it's not what I was quieted the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► pro and i have to say thats that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► i keep using like luxurious or elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► or whatever but like it there if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► have hardware empathy empathy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► machine which i think i've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► on the past podcast it but and you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► to do something that stress is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► computer and it is just that just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► fans are just going to hear it worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► there's a certain baseline level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► I mean it's kind of annoying sound first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► of all and second of all you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► this is everything okay am I you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it good to do this what what if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► laptop sounded like that you know eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► hours a day while you worked like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► can't be good for the thing to be yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► and and it is an annoying sound it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► better to get a big honking machine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► you can stress to its limits and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► know and it doesn't make a big racket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► and so the imac does not fulfill that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► criteria and and the reason I brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► to to mark about his articles like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► is an advantage of the mac pro the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► idealized mac pro of course the 2008 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► pack program sitting next to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► humongous and weighs 50 pounds but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► trashcan mac pro fulfills the quietness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► ideal but not so much the not melting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► ideal which is an important part of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► the power and elegance formula for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► mac pro is you can be quiet and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► good cooling but that also means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► parts that are inside you can't die from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► excessive heat and the current trashcan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► want current the new 2013 trashcan has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► had a history of perhaps not doing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► well on removing the heat but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► yeah but anyway I wrote this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► with the presumption that the mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► either dead or quote on hold whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► that means and the point of this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► is not to keep people's hopes up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► it's not dead yet the points article is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► to help convince the people at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► that if this thing is truly either dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► or postponed or on hold or whatever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► try to convince them that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► that's the right move and and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► please don't do that and it has gotten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► response and and so I think I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► hit on something here and and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► when you see the article in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► that's why at the beginning I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► that it's gone and I didn't bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► like you know here's why the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► trash can overheat gpus because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► that that is a real problem but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► it didn't really need to be in there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► did mention here's why the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► trashcan sales might not be very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► and why you shouldn't use that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► the overheating is one of them like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► sigh I think like highlighting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► it's not that we interviewed bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► up is not that we did nobody like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► mac pro is that you changed it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► in the ways that you change it or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► not palatable so that all the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► buy mac pros and it's not as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► while the mac pro's not for you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► like what's gonna be for somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► apparently the trashcan macro was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► for enough people so i'm one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► things is reliability but you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► quietness able to handle high load and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► reliable that's why you got the ECC ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► workstation class components or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► want to call and you know that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► super duper overclock that is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► to be a reliable piece of hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► the trash can never quite fulfilled that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► so it's yet another reason to add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► pile of why the trashcan might not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► oh you know this isn't there's no market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► for promac anymore because I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► it's small it's a small as it's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► been but you have to actually serve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► market if you want to sell into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► but anyway so in summary my article was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► basically a letter to apple presuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► that they've killed the mac pro trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► to trying to shoot down reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► they might be using internally why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► should make this computer anymore and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► just so happened to be also wrapped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► in some other things the pros my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► and everything else because that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► feel and and my love for mac OS and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► wanting to leave mac OS x like what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► gonna do go use windows no windows is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► horrible sorry all the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► respond to me saying that stupid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► no no it's true it's true Casey is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► official windows are well i was i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► that I wasn't and more recently than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah because i installed Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► 10 just two weeks ago or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► don't even get me started i and i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► installed Windows 10 and I was genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► hand on heart I'm not trying to be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► I was look kind of looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► in a way because everyone every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► I've ever seen anyone talk about Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► 10 I'd always heard you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► good now it's good it's good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► it's not bad at all and i installed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and it is just as bad as everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► always been and I think we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► this already on the last show so I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► belabor the labor it anymore but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► terrible don't believe otherwise it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► anyway moving on so one of you put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► in the show notes is a genuinely great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► question uh what external monitors or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► Apple employees using with laptops now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► Thunderbolt express but this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► question or idea was brought in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► different forms a surprising number of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► parent supposedly you know presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► completely independent people came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► hey Apple to the new spaceship campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► with a cool-looking office is shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► like a ring and all this you know open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► seating or whatever it is they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► trying to say like what would it be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► to walk into this spaceship campus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► see the Apple engineers diligently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► working as if you're actually able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► see where they work because you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► can't get bad country but anyway this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► these are people writing like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► presumably those people would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► laptops as a apple doesn't make desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► anymore and who would use an imac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► whatever whatever but you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► with laptops as we mentioned even apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► laptops when they're sitting at a desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► might like to have a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► do stuff on right because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► advantages of sitting down or standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► up standing desk or whatever you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► have a much bigger screen or multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► screens or whatever and for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► couldn't envision a scenario where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► Apple's headquarters was filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► people using apple laptops connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► non-apple monitors is it because not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► is it because they wouldn't match is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► because it wouldn't fit their idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► these architects sketches of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► everything is all apple and perfect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► the tables are made from one giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► continuous piece of wood painstakingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► manufactured in Germany or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► that's probably part of it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► practical consideration is you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► was brought before apples monitors for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► while have made to connect two laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► if they don't make any monitors which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► seems like they're not anymore and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► the mac pro disappears and becomes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► all-in-one what are all the laptops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► connected question to this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► question of target display mode for imax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► which used to be a thing and then wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► but now with the advent of Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► three we'll talk about in a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► in theory you can buy an imac and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► use it as a monitor when you sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and get your laptop to which were being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► make the world's most expensive monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► not really actually the Apple 30 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► probably still more money but it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► be a very expensive monitor at total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► waste of the internals but technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► it is possible and that would be an out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► to let apples campus photos continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► be completely appellee from top to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► bottom realistically speaking as for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► campus pictures you're not going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► any except for reception of those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► going to be imax and they're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► all in one they're gonna have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► apple logo on them and it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► I i think i speak for all of us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► saying we have some friends at apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► one of my friends at apple i know for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► fact is rolling the dell 5k display as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► believe a child to his 5k imac at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► office I blg or the know the dell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► I maybe this is his home machine I I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► i might be lying unintentionally but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► am almost positive that this is his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► machine it's a 5k imac connected to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► double-double cable to this dell 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► display too and so in the future I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► expect it would be the LG 5k display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► you're never going to see that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► he can take you to his office anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► right exactly i have i have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► an apple developer office even looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► like i don't have ever seen a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► picture of one of anybody's ever usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► look at what they look like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► nineties they were awesome people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► died eight the giant 84 tvs with the CRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► monitor with two big speakers on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► bottom and because they would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► their hoard the fanciest Mac hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► like I think it was it was more of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► deal back when Max were just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► more expensive and again if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► the original purchase price of the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► to FX and converted to twenty sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► dollars you will be very surprised I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► so but if you worked at Apple you access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► that stuff so I remember a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► cubicle farm pictures from the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► that office is not capable so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► listening to this and you are a nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► era apple employee and have photos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► your cool setup senior officers send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► them a couple of them send us a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► of them because i love seeing those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► i'm sure they're not quite what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► look like today I have not actually seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► the inside of an actual human working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► person's office an apple in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► so I don't know what they're like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► do know that Apple right now has many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► different buildings that vary widely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► how nice they are how modern they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► spaceship will be another iteration that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► I think of a spaceship they have a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► of mock-ups you can see pictures of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► they expect though the work areas to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► like in the office to be like but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► is no like what does an apple officers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► like because apples campus is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► bigger than the giant one infinite loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► building it's so many other buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► scattered all over the place and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► are very different from each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► speaking of displays and cabling tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► about displayport some writing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► bunch of facts about displayport and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► we've talked about all these at bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► pieces before we talk about how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► didn't think there was going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► external 5k display for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► displayport that the current standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► we're on displayport 1.2 and didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► I'm like might be on display port 143 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► comes but that's not gonna be out for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► long time so what are they going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► we found out the answer to that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► they're gonna do this you know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► do with the LG Display it's one cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► it's not two cables and they just stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► multiple displayport 1.2 streams over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► but this information we got sent as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► summary brought home another reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► which is even one display part 13 comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► it still is not your Savior not that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► need to save your network is we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► solution but it is not your Savior for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► connecting your 5k display because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► display part 1.3 only does 5k at 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► frames per second at eight bits per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► component whereas displayport 1.2 goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► up to 4k at 60 frames per second at ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► bits per component which is important if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► you're doing fancy photo and video work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► and honesty like color banding all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Thunderbolt chipset can't receive that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► display part 1 point 3 input anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► so we're going to be in the world of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► displayport 1.2 streams being told over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► firewire for a while because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► experience for second 10 bits per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► component so may be displayed for 1.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► will do it in a single stream I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► and as for Thunderbolt Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► angles Thunderbolt one could send to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► displayport 1.1 streams Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► three can send to displayport 1.2 trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► obviously we know it can do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► it doesn't the LG display and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► Thunderbolt three does that it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► leaves 10 gigabits per second band was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► left over for other stuff so that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► magic that makes the laptops being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► connected to LG Display working that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► like if you take that back in time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► show that to someone like 15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► as I you're going to output how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► video over this skinny little thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► home we had we were just connecting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► the ADC connector dvir these big honking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► multi-pin parallel things with big thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► cables at resolutions that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► I a tiny fraction of the current one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► now we're able to do this you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► which is still kind of a hack taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► those to display for all my two streams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► and streaming them over this one cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► because that the standards don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► enough to fill the whole screen then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► putting them back together with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► display control and everything that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► that's very impressive and we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► multi screaming sometimes abbreviated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► MST that actually refers to the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► the display point 1.2 spec that lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► tunnel to displayport 1.1 streams over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► it and i keep saying that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► going to 1.1 1.3 but the abbreviation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► hopefully stands for high bitrate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► displayport 1.2 hbr displayport 1.2 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► hbr to and displayport 1.3 her3 I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► know that has any clarification but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► that's how its referred to it and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► email on some of the literature clears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► yeah anyway good thing we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► wait for this point 1.3 and it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► cool what Apple did to get the extra 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► display working just in time for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► not introduce a new mac pro and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► some potentially ready to this we got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► anonymous as yet unconfirmed tip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► know the LG Display does not have a GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► in it which makes sense in light of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► play port stuff because why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► need to GPU if they can output to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► displayport 1.2 streams over the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► cable told you to display goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► receive them and make one image out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► them and Bob's your uncle as they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► okay and then any as a final note and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► this is clearly for John tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► the macbook pro as the naked robotic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► this is another topic that my listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► have brought up with the negative erotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► or for brief review is the idea for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► iDevices specifically the iphone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► Apple wants to make the smaller skinnies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► thing possible even if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► function as a complete phone and allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► people to augment it either right with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► cases or battery cases or colors or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► whatever that they don't sell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► entire phone i tell you the Naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► robotic core and then you dress it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► be the phone you really want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► because of Apple made those choices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► put a rubberized rugged case on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► thing for you are mated thicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► bigger and ruggedized the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► wanted a skinny little silver thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► couldn't have it and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► wanted a different color coordinate some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► sources like here you go here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► negative robotic or add to it whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► you want that's strategy has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► discussed a long time as a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► trying to get apples head about why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► make a difference dinner and slippery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► and also stuff and so probably brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► is the macbook pro and a robotic or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► my initial instinct was that it was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► use you don't put a case on your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► about battery case for macbook pro would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► be awesome but you don't like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► external batteries for but it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► not like you put a flowery case on it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► when you accidentally drop it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► get being like it's not it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► size class of item than a phone doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► seem like they're selling you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► skinniest thing possible allowing you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► although I suppose you could do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► i'm sure someone out there make the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► for the macbook pro but I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► a little more one aspect of it does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► kind of make a robotic Corey and gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► into the idea of the Thunderbolt three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► ports that uh that again as the discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► last show i'm in favor of going to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► they're cool they're multi-purpose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► can do a lot of things but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► aspects of Thunderbolt ports there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► makes them so multi-purpose is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► like an external ization of pci or pci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► express that necessitates the external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► ization of certain components for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► example like this one little tiny plug i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► can plug in here and i can do video out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► to DVI to VGA to me displayport to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► Thunderbolt Display hdmi look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► these different options i don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► put 17 different video course on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► side of my mac i can just have this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► little skinny port but the price for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► doing that is that you have externalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► doll the circuitry required to make hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► output work to make DVI of work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► the desert disgusting seen in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► lots of these adapters have chips in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► them and those chips aren't just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► optional will go away you know once once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► the world to get six like it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► the thing that's coming out of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► that part of what you do that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► understand it it is an external ization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► of the pci bus so there needs to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► reference center for all things like USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► you could connect right to it so when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► everywhere we don't have that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► but certain devices still have some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► that could have been inside the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► if there was a big honkin port move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► the outside of the computer now those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► components are small and often they fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► in a little adapter that you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► even see and in theory they could also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► Isis eventually but for a while I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► one of the prices of this beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► uniform for future not just the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► that we have dongles but that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► pushing some logic some tact of logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► outside of their computer case you used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► to be in the inside and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► giving you the Naked even less robotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► or because some of the robotic missus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► has been moved outside the case so i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► been i've been thinking about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► thinking is there a future where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► plop down your super skinny mac laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► and the only thing you ever upload into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► it is super skinny beautiful slender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► cables none of which have a big wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► impossibly small active chip to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► sort of translation and one thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► think is necessary regression of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► move though of the move to externalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► in all these different little things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and and you know pouring all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► complexity and capability of adapting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► different ports and protocols and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► different things you know onto external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► devices one of the downsides of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► that the ones that you put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► computer you can control the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► and oftentimes they came for free with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► the intel chipset or whatever else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► you know and you could make pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► things like USB controllers and hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► outputs and everything else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► externalizing to all these dongles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► you are basically forcing people to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► something from someone who knows who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► who knows who's making the thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► inside to get the capability used to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► with like night reliable built-in stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► and some of the many of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► you are adding onto are these like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► know cheap no-name brands from amazon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► ebay or whatever and like I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► it's it's going to be a similar problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► as like finding a good USB hub which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► very difficult they good USB hubs do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► exist but you it there so hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that reliably that they basically don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► practice once you need more of them than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► what your computer has ports for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► because your hub is probably less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► reliable it's very hard to find what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► isn't or very hard to diagnose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► problem and what you require fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► pricey Apple dongles and we will get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► this but fairly pricey Apple dongles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► to do basic things everyone needs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► you know you're not everyone basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► things a lot of people need like usba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► adapters or hdmi anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► because the first party ones are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► expensive many people in reality are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► going to go by third party ones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► amazon or whatever and they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► be less reliable they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► less control over there going to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► predictable you know in in many cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► not all but many cases and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► that's kind of a step backwards in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► of ways like we used to have these nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► reliable internal ports for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► things and while it's great to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► versatility of these kind of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► ports now and well it's great to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► the the thickness of them if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► thinner laptop it is definitely a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► backwards to have to rely on some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► 50 cent chip inside of a God knows who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► made it cable for something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► find pretty important to to getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► oh ok that's certainly possible but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► don't know if the sky is really falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► at Chicken Little I mean he is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► well we don't know what the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► these things is going to be and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► that in general late USB hub is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► counter argument that that I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► well the USB is built-in though that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► it that's the USB will be inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► thing it's when you externalize pci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► express and say this adapter works by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► pretending it's like a device on the pci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► bus and it has a chip for translating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► the video you know pulling the video off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► and it was that one that like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► ipad want like an h.264 encoder sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► in their tiny little iOS device and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► that kind of stuff goes on that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► you're moving stuff outside u.s. be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► should be just a matter of everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► please update your connectors not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► those big old things like I see I see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► light at the end of the tunnel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► USB angle but I see the less light for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► things like display that goes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► ethernet which is very common and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► standard and you expect to just work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► if there has to be a chip in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► Ethernet adapter then like Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► the the quality that after the bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► unlike the little chip break on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► motherboard you just find the adapter so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► yeah and I'm i don't think that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► should go and assume that the quality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► going to be subpar right out of the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► and certainly there will be one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► above any kind of device one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► ethernet adapters wanted to SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► readers etcetera that will be crappy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I I don't think it's a bit premature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► just assume that anything outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► case is going to be crap and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► there's a glut of things that are crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► I mean that's in principle why amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► has reviews and why you can ask your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► friends hate does this one work for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► and hopefully Applewood only carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► things that they feel are of a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► quality even if it doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► apple logo on it it's certainly possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► that this stuff will be crap but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► it's way too soon to get worked up about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► Apple will make stuff anyway like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► just want the Apple quality ones Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► make them and sell them to you for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► way too much money but there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► interesting side effect to that too if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► you noticed the date outsource a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► the current ones to belkin like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► have outsourced the ethernet belkin i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► think one learning tool yet the do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► lightning that horrible split her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► lets you charge listen to your lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► it's the worst thing ever you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► 40 bucks for this thing this giant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► has to lighting ports out one lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► port in so that you plug into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► iphone you have this giant dongle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► you also have to have the headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► dunkel to plug that into the second pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► why couldn't why couldn't they just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► it be lightning out and headphone out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► why did that one less another angle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► is like I wouldn't mind the chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► the adapters in the external agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► external ization of all this of active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► logic less if it was smaller that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► adapter in particular is comically large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► we haven't just like understand you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► ideally it would be like the little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► know the real lighting the headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► adapter was like I didn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► there was a chip in there it's so darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► small like that's how they should all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► when it's a giant white brick then it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► you know that's it makes me feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► again I assume that stuff will go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► over time and they'll shrink and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► get better and so on and so forth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► there is some light at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► tunnel there but i still do think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► the pushing of the chips outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► laptop case especially since on a 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► inch laptop that's a pretty big case so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► at some point if we can't get the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► to get on board with putting the ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► and their devices and we still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► have an adapter with a dongle it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► be nice to maybe move one or two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► most often used ones to the side of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► thing or if you're not gonna do that put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► like three more of those ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► side because there's so much room on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► 15-inch macbook pro things looking kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► lonely there with just those two tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► little openings response to this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► eero visit 0 comments eerr dot-com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► get overnight shipping at checkout for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► free by using code ATP 0 is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► the Wi-Fi router of the future not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► our homes are coming online of speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► thermostats we have light bulbs front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► door lock security cameras all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► stuff that all has Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► probably the technology we depend on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► most the core of utility of the 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► Wi-Fi is broken because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► really reach your whole house most time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► with your whole apartment most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► time because there's walls there's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► zones that you know you have one room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► it's too far away from it or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► else 0 is designed to change all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► they make a single device the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► elegant box and you can buy any number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► of these to cover your house you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► you can buy just one but they recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► that you buy two or three and here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► connection you plug the other one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► or however many you have just into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► wall somewhere further away from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► they all talk to each other on a private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► mesh network which makes them much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► better than typical range extenders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► then they create one giant Wi-Fi network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► that just blankets your entire place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► Wi-Fi and setting this up could not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► easier normally you know there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► solutions that are kind of like this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► awhile but they've been a pain to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► or they would really depend on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► like range sensors which are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► it is not like range extenders because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► it has that back-end network that talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► to it they talk to each other off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► regular network so it doesn't clog it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► and their app makes set up such a breeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► it is so ridiculously easy to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► multiple access points with 0 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► when you have multiple broadcast points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► your home gets covered so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► effectively than it does you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► one rider no matter how many crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► multiple points of Wi-Fi cover your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► house way better and your that makes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► much other stuff easier they have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► like parental controls they can update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► their app and add new features all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► time they do this all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► they've been 12 updates so far since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► launch with many more to come check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► out today go to erode comments eerr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► dot-com and you can check out you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► sit overnight shipping and enter code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► so once again go to ero com de ro calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► for an amazing Wi-Fi setup and use code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► ATP to make overnight shipping free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► thanks a lot to ero for sponsoring our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► Apple has made a very curious move they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► have cut the prices on us bc peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and we'll put a link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► to a post on I more from front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► show Rene Ritchie that breaks down kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► of the the price changes that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► happened and is so as a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► examples the USBC to traditional USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► went from nineteen dollars to nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► dollars the USBC the lightning cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► went from $25 to $19 etc etc but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► particularly interesting about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► that the LG display's the 4k and 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► displays are also getting discounted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► don't recall how much the 5k was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► did was like 13 it was 1300 you and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► it's 974 dollars still not available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► order quite yet but it's going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► understudy for dollars until the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► the year and that's that's how long all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► of these are all these discounts will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► going on that's a really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► move and you know there's lately I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► like there's a pessimistic an optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► take on this the optimistic take is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► Apple's listening and they're responding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► all of our grumbling go well maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► go away but make it easier on us for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► those of us who are professionals or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► think we're professionals and need all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► bunch of dongles and so on the plus side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► apples listening it and they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► that's one way of looking at it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► alternative ways of looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► well it's I think it's a damage control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► to some degree I think it's pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► that that Apple you know release these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► reaction to the new macbook pros has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► been less positive that Apple expected i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► think it's pretty safe to say and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► can read between the lines on that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► think phil even came just about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► saying that in some interview somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► basically the reaction has been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► not as positive they wanted and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► they're trying to do damage control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► that's what you know they begin their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► statements basically by saying how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► this macbook pro is selling that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► and all these qualifiers like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► best-selling pro laptop that we've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► had on our website and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► obviously it's all it's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► a flop or anything but they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► want to criticism for it so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► obvious damage control and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► know I think groupers tip their gruesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► note about I think I Twitter somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► was that you know he thinks maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► money-grab like the reason they moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► us bc they don't want to appear like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► was purely for profit reasons to sell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► bunch of adapters and stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► believe that I i think you know I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► Apple is not sorry that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► make a lot more money from him after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► stuff than before I think that's a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► I don't think that was the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► reason why they did it in the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► reason I did it was to make the laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► thinner lighter and simpler save on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► component costs in terms of the laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► make it easier to engineer but having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► report on the outside easier service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► fewer things that will die or breaker or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► have things like a number or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► otherwise need warranty service and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► finally of course because they believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► in the future whatever I believe those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► are all reasons why they made only USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► plus a couple headphone jacks why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► made those things all the standard ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► could very easily look at this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► could say well you know they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► just to make money on adapters so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► think that was that was probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► the things they were trying to combat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► with this i think they were also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► trying to apologize maybe the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► users in in a very small and relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► inexpensive inexpensive way that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► mean any fault about anything in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► it's basically it it's a PR feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► move similar to the free bumper case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► the iphone 4 with antennagate like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► a it's a PR like make you feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► and make make it look like we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► just being greedy for adapter prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► that being said these dongles and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► are still very expensive like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► still Apple prices but there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► more expensive than they need to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► I think it's weird that the price cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► are temporary like that like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► that it only runs to the end of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► like if they really wanted it to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► like it was about dongle profits they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► permanent because these price cuts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► unsustainable like like knowing roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► what margins tend to be a retail things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► like this and and knowing that most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► these probably have very few parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► them are probably very inexpensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► probably very profitable to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► it wouldn't surprise me if most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► had at least a fifty percent margin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► probably a larger one and they've cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► the prices by like you know twenty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► fifty percent basically so I i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► very very surprised if any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► things we're actually losing money at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► sustainable by Apple standards because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► they need forty percent margin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► everything i agree that the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► probably weigh over forty percent for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► accessories and they cut them down to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► think is below forty percent although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► think they should maybe revisit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► because if they if they can't make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► like if they're getting fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► margin on these things they're spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► perhaps too much money making them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► I'm saying they should make a crappier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► but it's been fifty percent that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► being that was a conservative estimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► i'm guessing the margins are more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► eighty percent it's there a lot on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► kind of stuff usually they they do make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► like all their stuff they make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► not so much in terms of reliability as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► million people who sent us pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► tolerances and industrials on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► your products there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► plastic mould lines on them all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► edges are straight and crisp they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► like little pieces of art which also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► makes them bad adapters in many cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► but understand like its it costs money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► to do that and and they come in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and the reason I know this is i bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► bunch of them i get back to temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► pricing a second they come in little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► rectangular boxes that are beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► origami folded and you know they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► they're they're not just like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► plastic bags you get like with amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► packaging or just a cable thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► there right and you know and I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► did in terms of how they perform as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► actual adapters I don't think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► actually better than the other ones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► I do see that where some of the money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► spent on them so i think they would in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► general they would be better off make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► finding a way to manufacture their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► adapters for less money giving up son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► some of the beauty and elegance and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► the same time making them more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► adapters and the reason I bought a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► of them is what you're getting at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► temporary pricing it's you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► want a pessimistic take this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► thought when I thought oh it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► they're doing something to you know it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► be nice to all those people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► posting horror stories that i bought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► the macbook pro and also $300 of adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► so i could use the damn thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► that's better look for apple so like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► you don't have to spend $150 of adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► but only until the end of the year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► what happens in the year by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► the year has everyone updated all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► offices to have connectors that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► require these dongles know they just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► back to the old price and the uprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► which was really really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► especially for some of the simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► adapters the reason I bought I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► those uh the USBC to plan all the USBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► because that's going to I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► computer with ports that require that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► got my appletv i suppose i could plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► into what it would do nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► someday i will have a computer that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► that and they were half off basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► like nineteen dollars to nine dollars so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► i bought two of them because i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► to use them and nine dollars is a price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► i will pay for that little adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► well i think twenty dollars that adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► hell no i will not pay 2 i'll go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► monitor price and find whatever that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► know and you know amazonbasics mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► on I'll find a cheaper one because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► not worth that much my twenty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► for us bc the USB adapter know so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► bought them because they were temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► maybe their system is working to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► adding some urgency or whatever but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► would be much nicer if they didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► this as a PR thing that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► addressed in the short term but rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► as a long-term issue because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► they're going to be selling dongles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► a long time and that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► factored into the price of people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► your laptop especially the next laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► that people by after this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► they'll know all when you buy an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► laptop also reserve a hundred and X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► and the price is going to go right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► it's not a good situation i mean i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► they kind of get away with in the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► devices where it's like about the island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► so I suppose you want the one with lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► of memory was going to a couple hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► bucks and you want applecare and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► you want the front case in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► casing your ipad like it adds up really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► fast but for some reason and maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► is illogical the adapter seem like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► know relatively more expensive and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► it's because I don't see the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► chips in there and don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► integrated into that but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► problem of apples on making NYC third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► party ones that can come in for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► especially for the simpler adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► makes you think the Apple is choosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► the wrong trade-offs when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► making its own adapters they're too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► expensive too precious and not sturdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► enough it's funny you say that you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► and pick some of these up because I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► to-do list this week which i haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► time for is I wanted to go to the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► store and pick up a handful of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► adapters because i have the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► thought I probably won't have a macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► pro or a mac that uses us pc for at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► least a year or two but but that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► will come so why not just pick up a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► of these and I intend to do that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► the reason i'm laughing is that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► that very often it was so none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► three of us have one of the macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► or have ordered one or likely are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► planning to buy will you break it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► briefly ordered one I did and he flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► over and and and i ordered it with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► adapters a USBC day and a see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► those both shift and arrive before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► can't even cancel the laptop so and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► like well I could return them but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► i'm going to use them anyway and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the price drop was announced and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► credited me to read the difference like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► even better and so I went well i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► the light.the see lightning gigabit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► ethernet the sandisk card reader and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 2 adapter because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► have an external sound device that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► that we recorded TP @ WC with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► vulnerable and I i think all the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► same calculations as you guys it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► well I'm gonna need these eventually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► they're probably not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► cheaper over time like this its public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► i'm going to be these suit probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► within the next two years i will i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► need these adapters and think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► things like the see the lightning cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► that's just the new lightning cable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► need tons of lightning cables they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► all over the place like I simply have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► pick up one of these at whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► nineteen dollars of 25 to get that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► small price drop on that one but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► well I'm gonna need these supplies will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► get its people you should make like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► paper kraft mac book pro and plug all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► yeah yeah i cant pretend computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► yeah but I again I do admit though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► agree John that it is very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► these price drops are only temporary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► the dogs because again like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► still making them like monoprice level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► pricing or anything like they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► there still expensive compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► no-name ones and that's fine there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► are better they dropping down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► same price as good quality third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► peripherals like that's only did it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► not like it's a super-duper bargains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► just like oh this is the price i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► expect to see if I found whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► best third-party one is out there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► similar price to this and like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► botch the pr on this too because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► everybody but the way we found that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► was like other dropping prices but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► about the people who already ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► them and then we had to wait for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► to start getting credit that's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► happy we've lowered all the prices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► by the way if you bought one of the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► x days we're going to credit you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► they obviously did like they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► right thing like when you're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► the right thing Apple tell us about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► because it's good PR like and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► leave people wondering like oh now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► feel bad that i bought them there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► what happened to the poor suckers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► bought them or whatever and you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► found out a couple hours a day later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► that will do the right thing but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► like that was another drop the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► but regardless this is a good move i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► wish they would make the price cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► permanent they might still do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► they haven't they said to fill in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► year they could change their minds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► they could cut the prices later you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► after at some period of time again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► and the end of the only difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► finding about the end of the year thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► is that I I was honestly tempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► order the LG Display to that the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► five years but because like well that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► only going to be available for ordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► $300 discount for a couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► maybe because you can even order one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► the website currently says it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► become available in december and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► price drop is still the end of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► so you're gonna have like a few weeks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► december when you can actually order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► this thing to disk but who knows when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► would actually ship and arrive i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► thinking like well will there ever be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► time like if they make a new mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► next year I'm gonna want one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► displays if it's still in a standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► micro but I'm not confident enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► it will be a standalone mac pro that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► will exist that will be out next year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► actually order one of these things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► six months ahead of time you just hooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► up to your paragraph macbook pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► you'll have a complete set up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► computer part you'll have the dongles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► you have the screen will be beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► excuse your iPad's to pretend touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► yeah right we'll have the whole computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► except the screen keyboard and trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► and the cpu in the GPO it's yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► gonna be after what once we get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► other side you know we're in these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► heavy transitional arrows you know first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► we went retina and SSD right and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► still have not finished those transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► it's super close but we still have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► completed those two large transitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► completely you can still go out and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► not even just one but many Mac models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► that either don't have retina don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► ssds by default or even both which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► embarrassing but those transitions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► almost done once you're past it once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► have a Retina computer with a net with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► all SSD storage not fusion drive all SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► storage it is a thing of beauty it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► amazing it's such a good computer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► that point forward and USBC is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► the same thing for ports it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► have this kind of cumbersome annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► transition that's going to break a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► monitors that you won't be able to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► any more new like that it's putting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► this big barrier changing all the ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► everything else but once we get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► promise land of all USB seaports and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► or mostly USBC peripherals it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► be really nice but you and the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► of the mapper like being able to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► it on both sides like that's cool like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► that that's a useful thing it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► be a really nice road when we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► but the transition is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► but the transition is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► uncomfortable just like all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► ones have been are you still have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► new thing in our future world will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► confusion about the USBC the lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► cable which end is which because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► are there different sizes and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► tell if you look at them but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► not paying attention and you just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► the skinny little cable up the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► skinny lens and we don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► problem of like usba where you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► flipping it over three times to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► right because it bidirectional but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► Lightning plug into the side of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► macbook pro maybe just once or twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► before you realize what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► we respond to this week by hover and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3631">TS</a>]
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01:00:51 ◼ ► well actually the better time to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► blog is going to be monday November 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► that's in a couple of weeks at this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► remember 21st dot blog domain names will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3658">TS</a>]
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01:01:06 ◼ ► good chance of finding your first choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3666">TS</a>]
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01:01:18 ◼ ► moment that dot log domains become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3678">TS</a>]
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01:01:34 ◼ ► /name my blog for the new dot blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► domain extension and of course however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3697">TS</a>]
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01:01:52 ◼ ► we had talked I think briefly last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► and then we ended up shelving it so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► could discuss this week about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► thought of arm processors on the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► i think i might have brought this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► because i was saying that you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► you look at a lot of the angst that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► been floating around the community with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► regards to the macbook pro and the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► pro there is a way that you can blame a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► lot of these troubles on intel not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► say that Apple's blameless by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► stretch of the imagination but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► paint a picture in which Intel holds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► lot of the blame and it's in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► it'sit's apples modus operandi to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► controls the chips on the iOS lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► why wouldn't it make sense for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► try to control the chip on the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► pro a really just the mac lines and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► that makes you think well why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► they use an ARM chip like they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► the iOS lines and throw that on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► presumably going to be very low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► and you know they're the modern iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► devices are nearly as fast as modern max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► and so it seems on paper to make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► I mean the transition would stink but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► we've already done this once with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► transition from powerpc and intel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► why not try again but twice right so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► not try to get what we need we need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► an old Mac sound effect whatever john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► schools are some like it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► that came came across the mac before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► 2000 for powerpc transition was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► graphing calculator was a miracle we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► could use that we can use to startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► chime since it's not a thing anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► there you go so we discuss his arm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► the mac thing so many times they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► probably gonna say all the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► here but the reason that would think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► was worth bringing up again the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► we related to the show is because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► it's surprisingly quickly in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► of arm CPUs it just like to briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► summarize all the things we've said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► the past x86 is important for windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► compatibility how important is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► why would Apple spend money producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► arm chips for the Mac because the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► doesn't sell enough volume to be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► creating your own chips whereas the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► chips do and that leads to okay well all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► you gotta do is wait until you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► the investment design your own fancy arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► chip that you use in your iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► and basically use that same chip or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► same architecture maybe with more cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► and more fancy basically like the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► you did for your iOS devices transfers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► directly to the mac and then you solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► the investment problem because I go I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► doing this work anyway for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► iphone doesn't cost that much more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► make it a bigger more powerful version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► of it and throw it in to a macbook thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► it solves the problem of relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► intel like AC was going to business been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► everything like that Apple's the master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► of its own destiny and you just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► x86 compatibility stuff to deal with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► the reason i think it's worth revisiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► again it's because just one year since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► last time we probably discussed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► the chip that's in the latest iPhones is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► I think faster than some macs and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► clock lower and in most cases and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► not quite at the point of getting close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► to the point where the work they do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► the iphone cpu is directly transferable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► to the mac in terms of you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► kind of performance could you get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► it and you know with you know making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► bigger version clocking at higher maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► putting in a couple more cores I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► we're there for the low and Max and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► they don't even make any high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► maximum or maybe doesn't matter so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► you know as this equation keeps changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► as we depressingly look at the Geekbench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► comparison to what ever Mac were sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► in front of and go what what is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► you know the world is upside down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► the balance of all those factors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► discussed that Apple have to be changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► it really depends on the weight you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► to them to decide is this the go or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► no-go moment and again we all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► assume that Apple has you know has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► either been working on or understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► challenges of converting mac OS to arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► if it hasn't done so already but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► especially with integration of the armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► ship for the touch ID the viability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► and desirability of an arm-based mac to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► both Apple and consumers only increases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► over time and I feel like this has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► come to head eventually unless Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► gets back in gear and there's another to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► process levels ahead of everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► and I guess the wild-card is that 3x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► points stuff which I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► like proprietary in any way or tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► Intel in any specific way but that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► there are many ways it at the Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► could ensure that it keeps apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► business but especially with this recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► delay and the new macbooks and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► at the scores for the new iphones i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► my mind anyway things are shifting much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► more towards the possibility of our max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► in the future than I would have thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► you just the year ago I completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► with you and you know it's worth noting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► as I have in the past that to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► arm would incur some pretty significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► costs for a lot of developers which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► admittedly are very very very small part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► virtualization on an intel box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► windows which is really now only running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► on intel again that's easier than trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► cross-compilation from arm to xat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► certain I'm sorry from x86 to arm so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► old me you know though when the meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► was still writing code and windows which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► actually happened earlier today but we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► leave that aside the one told me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► was doing it professionally 40 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► hours a week i would probably have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► back to a pc because presumably it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► be just awful to have to cross compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► really what's the term I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► forward to cross-compile emulate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► really emulate is what i'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► to emulate x86 on top of armed me maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► it would be quick but I would assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► that it would not and you know as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► talk about the past I remember even as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► not mac person i remember hearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► the no pc on a daughter board that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► people plugged into their max so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► could run windows on them and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► definitely cost to this is costing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► software pain you know you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► have some sort of emulation layer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► was the thing they did for pot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► powerpc on top of Intel was named that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► I've got to solution for you Casey yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► it's a dongle and inside it is around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► haha that's not what I mean you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► mentioned basically a pci card it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► think it was a new but actually yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► right like you could fairly easily put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► reasonably powerful x86 computer inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► a dongle connected to a thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► three board and the only people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► to have that Donald other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► I mean it's not just that it's like also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► people who wanted you know use people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► want to run software on there if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► just want to run like Iran does it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► recently which is depressing docker does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► not run on my mac at work is too old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► because it's all I've divisor stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► whatever but anyway doctor is not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► run if your doctor for deploying on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► on x86 based services not going to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► our mac and so I don't need to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► dongle to have fair enough i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► think that way also doing a quick search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► it looks like the first time that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► spoke about this that I could quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► find was episode 35 almost exactly three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► years ago on october 18 of 2013 where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► discussed where is it how touch ID could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► be used in max haha and whether our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► macbooks would be worth the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► costs so does that make this follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► crossover in topic splitter now when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► talk about the peripheral price cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► everything the chatroom wants to tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► all that Thunderbolt is an intel thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► like all things are solvable with money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► though it's really believe this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► it's like we talked about last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► Apple could make x86 chips and get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► the Intel bandwagon and you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► there's lots of possibilities here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► involving money changing hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► licensing deals and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► and another thing that factors into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► i forgot to mention in the whole summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► intel has had this massive advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► they were on the the new process size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► before everybody else sometimes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► year or more before everybody else so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► everything they made had just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► built-in advantage of be of you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► lower power and smaller you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► like they they were first whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► the process sizes and lately I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► have been seeing lots of stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► collecting on the show notes then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► eventually deleting them are aging them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► off lots of stuff about like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► intel is not going to be first to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► nanometers or intel already is in first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► 10 nanometers like no those are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► promises Intel will still be first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► Intel's the only one who's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► able to proceed beyond that because i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► done a deep R&D and like four back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► that show 36 or whatever one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► topics we've probably talked about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► like does doesn't it just want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► fab for everybody else because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► wouldn't it be great of Apple could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► Intel fab all of its you know a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► chips on their fancy new process and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► know until is making some of the chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► and phones but not the big one not the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► serious step that is making more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► radio chip that is not as good as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► the Qualcomm on yet many of its that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► well I don't know if that's why you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► you're having dropped calls but be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► way like it used to be the Intel was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► unquestionably the best place to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► yourself isn't always like we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► going to stab your stuff we want to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► you chips that we make we make way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► money off those not gonna be a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► fab that's not what we are we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► just a fab where Intel we make chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► it i'm not going to say that Intel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► losing its lead-in fabtech but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► less clear-cut to me as a fairly casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► observer of the silicon chip industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► that Intel's lead on process is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► longer as big as it used to be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► forget what are the a-10 being made as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► it is a 14 animator I figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► size they are but I keep reading stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► taiwan semiconductor will be a 10-meter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► yeah maybe they still have believed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► just doesn't seem as big to me as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► used to be and also Intel seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► more open now to fabbing things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► other people there was some of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► on this one's about that a while back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► add that to get another set of variables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► that are slowly shifting more towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► being in favor of our max I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► any of the stuff is a tipping point yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► but when we revisit this topic in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► it may be a slam doc I mean at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► point i would say that the the processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► itself is probably no longer the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► why they're not doing it it's everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► around the processor you know it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► the like the memory controllers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► Thunderbolt if they want you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► have to move away from Thunderbolt mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► in all likelihood which by the way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► yeah I mean Apple did just make a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► big bet on Thunderbolt with the USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► like that that's a big bed but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► changes their mind when they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► like they they can totally say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► Thunderbolt was great last year this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► year we can't do it anymore too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► byeeeee noodles that they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► change their mind like I said that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► like these are all solvable problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► with money like I'm sure in hell could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► come to some agreement with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► involving exchanges of money that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► allow someone somewhere to build an arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► chip with other like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► there's anything specifically exit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► x86 specific about even though it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► bite or crap like these are solvable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► problems technically monetarily it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► be another barrier and that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► variable like on the against side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► maybe it's a big barrier because Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► like no we're never going to license it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► and you know stuff like I we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► we don't know the constants that applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► to all these different factors but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► don't i don't say it rules it out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► wouldn't say that Intel is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► flexible on things like that but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► give thing too is like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► possible although i don't think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► last very long I think I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► be a transitional thing but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► possible to only make some models with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► armed ships like only the macbook 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► only the macbook one and escape you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► and so you keep like the pro models on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► intel so if they could they could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► virtualize windows or whatever you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► use the pro model and if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► Thunderbolt you the pro model and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► if you're if you are willing to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► smallest lightest thing that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► have all the pro features then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► have these two models that are arm-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► maybe the mac mini becomes our bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► well who knows you know there's they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► have lots of options there if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► wanted to go that route I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► if again i don't know if they will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► don't know if it makes sense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► for them to put so much effort into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► transition if they're not really hurting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► but i think there have been times over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► the last couple years where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► been really hurting badly because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► Intel and I you know especially mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► they care about the mac pro more it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► would be the more pressing there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► the mac pro it has been historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► even more limited by Intel even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► even before i start skipping generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► you're right money does solve a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► things they can make a deal but Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► really is pretty inflexible on certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► things these days and it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► tell customer for apt to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► dictate terms to them anymore if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► apple's big bargaining chip though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► that they could say hey and tell I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► you don't want to be a fab but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► were going to fab something the a-series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► chips in our iOS devices it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► fair point also to go back a half-step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► Marco you had said you know you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► make just the you know macbook one have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► the new arm chip just for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► discussion and i agree with you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► wouldn't we run into the same sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► problem with this USBC transition where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► if if the macbook one is running arm but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► nothing else is what is incentivizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► the software developers to rebuild their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► apps for the arm platform and make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► if only one presumably low-volume mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► on arm and everything else is stolen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► tell the mac app store rules if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► magnet back developers actually sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► thanks for the matter was alright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► nothing i'm sure they would do that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► would be their thing they would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► would mandate in the mac app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► honestly developers would do it if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► easily is just changing some settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► and feelings and stuff around like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► this point most conscientious Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► developers should not have architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► specific code in like they still have WD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► sessions say how to tell if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► something that relies on you know word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► size or by daughter and especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► Swift and stuff with the stuff being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► abstract away and not have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► about see in San shorts and whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► different architectures and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► crap i think it would be that bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► developers to do it because if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► to sell those people you'll do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► like maybe the people making props [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► wouldn't because they don't want to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► to the macbook escape people but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► surmountable and I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► incentives for people to get on board as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► time goes on it becomes less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► difficult to make relatively portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► code like you know that we we have moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► up so many layers of abstraction and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► much of our code we do so little custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► assembly or by order assumptions are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► know binary operations at that level at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► all anymore that it's less and less work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► now and you know if I i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► developers are going to do more work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► support the touch bar then they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► need to do to make an armed version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► what gets delivered to the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► because i am I haven't looked at this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► a while but doesn't Swift compile to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► own intermediate language then gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► compiled like an llvm intermediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► language is that what gets pushed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► app store and that's what the code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► all about I think you're mixing bisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► get caught up with the sill stuff which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► is a whole different i think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► right i think i forget what the the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► code policy is you remember our go a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► code is required on the watch i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► i think it's optional for iphone still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► and i don't i don't know if the mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► store may rest in peace even supports it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► i I don't know anyway but bit code that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► the number of people have uploaded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► basically determined that big code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► probably not a very good way to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► automatically generate like a whole arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► thing is big coat i think is is too low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► level it sits beneath the compiled level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► and so basically like assumptions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► by order and stuff would would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► translate automatically gotcha ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► you see what I'm driving at though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► wasn't sure if this could solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► problem for you i'm pretty sure bit code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► is not the answer to like an automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► arm build of everything in the store if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4708">TS</a>]
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01:18:36 ◼ ► interviews for a long time lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► forget all these things that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► the details like apples motivation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► flexibility with like fiddling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► instructions from one generation to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► next of like the s-1 chip for the s2 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► so on and so forth that because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► not delivering machine code that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► flexibility if they change instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► or move instruction replace it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► another one is slightly different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► they can do the final final machine code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► developers were all antsy about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► who knows how long we'll be a thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► that's what i was thinking on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► like it is a thing that has been from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► day one right everything for the watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► delivered its bit code which gives Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► more flexibility with hardware design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► and they would have if everyone were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► shipping just binaries that run as-is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4755">TS</a>]
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01:19:26 ◼ ► version of the binary that's built for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► rather than having to get the two kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► of building on what you were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4771">TS</a>]
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01:20:15 ◼ ► pretty sizable and make the binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4815">TS</a>]
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01:21:59 ◼ ► this is a was mentioned last show as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► dissatisfaction in some quarters was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► about the new macbook pros they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► saying look if you're not going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► the pro mac that I want to make how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► about letting other people baked mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► hardware that way Apple you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► someone else will address my needs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► everyone be happy is not great Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► cloning is done we did it once before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► can do it again just license the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► operating system and i will gladly buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► from some other company that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► cares about my needs and will make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► the big honking computer that I want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► we've been down this road before in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► past for most of apples history with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► mac people have been clamoring for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► accidental strategy at IBM Intel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► windows like that whole big mess the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► it ended up through no particular grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► plan of anybody except perhaps microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4974">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► ibm-compatible and they all would suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► your needs they could all run ms-dos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► Microsoft Windows eventually and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► that other stuff and so the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► vendors will compete with each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► have their own race to the bottom until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► the albino businesses suffered L&O [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► um everyone was saying during the go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► ladies early nineties hey Apple IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► Microsoft whoever eating your lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► because they let anybody make hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► and they have competition and capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► and yay eighties you should like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► backside and apples that no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► starting system and every time Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► something that someone didn't like was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► see if you just license your operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► system you've been doing much better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► the end eventually i think apple now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► making so much more money than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► pc makers has come out the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► and saying I guess I strategy was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► couple of actual CEOs were convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► that this is a good idea thanks pendler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► started maybe I forget I'm blaming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► wrong CEO for starting that cloning but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► they said you did what Apple is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5045">TS</a>]
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01:24:45 ◼ ► did not make up for the loss of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5085">TS</a>]
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01:24:59 ◼ ► experiment ended and for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► looking backwards on it they're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► Matt clothing that was such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► mistake it didn't actually help Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► actually hurt apple and it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► cruel to do Mac clones and then a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► or two later say oh just kidding no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► mac loans and so all those companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► spring up around making mac clones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► a brief moment in the Sun and then had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► to disappear because their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► business on motorola even made them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► crying out loud motorola made mac loans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► and so I would imagine for you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► who didn't live through it you silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Millennials it just seems like a coffin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► but to me who lived through it i do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► some fun memories and i think most mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► users who lived through the corner do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► have some fun memories of it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► just the reasons we just talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► like within the the macbook pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► dissatisfaction there was a time when if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► Apple didn't make a mac that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► you wanted to buy a bike it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► features and price and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► forth there was a chance there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► another company that would and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► companies the macro micro no dummies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► they tried to fill markets the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► you want to and so they would clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► there cpus little bit higher they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► make boring-looking Tara boxes that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► nevertheless much more expendable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► apples designs they would sell computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► for less money than apple they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► all sorts of things that Apple wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► going to do or just giving you different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► combinations of size and hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► space and video capabilities in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► it was actually a fairly exciting time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► to be a Mac user and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► actually bought those clones and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► these nice Apple computers know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► the companies weren't around very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► as Apple stop cloning but for a brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► moment there we were in that that world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► where if you were an enthusiast who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► to run the mac operating system you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► more choices and it was it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► now this doesn't mean we should do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► again now it's a silly overreaction to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► new product that some people were mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► dissatisfied with but like I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► just I have my main point of this is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► say that Matt clothes weren't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► all bad and have apple ever loses total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► interest in either the mac entirely or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► the high end of the mac market some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► of limited licensing plan could work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► just like the LG monitor is currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► the only one you can buy that works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► the macbook pro and i assume there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► be other ones but imagine if like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► company was blessed is the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► makes the pro mac hardware and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► blessed by Apple and it was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► there was was no it's not like you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► 50 more choices but merely you had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► choices were before you have zero or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► before you just have one that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► thing i think Pro users would find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► reasonably acceptable and Apple might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► find advantageous why we make some money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► office market let someone else do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► heavy lifting without increasing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► obviously this is totally outside around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► anything that apple would ever consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► but from a consumer perspective it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► viable to me i don't see the apple today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► doing it but everything you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► does make sense it was a cranberry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► America article about Apple should pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► the novo and you know this exact thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► hardware stuff Apple not interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► reaction though you're not gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► the hardware i want lunch let somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► else do it like totally an overreaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► but they're kinda like the arm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► mac like there's something to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► it's not the time to do it now but will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► check back in five years and see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► things have changed so for reference i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► workstation at dell.com I'm so sorry if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► you think if you try to configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► Wow my goodness so i have a few errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► in my configuration that need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► fixed according to this slip this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► popover dialogue now one of those is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► pcie solid-state drive boot drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► requires the harder to be the pcie boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► of course it can update for me wow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► pcie solid-state drive is not compatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► with the dual video card please update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► the internal hardware configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► solid-state drive but really this needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► to be sure to update the selection for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► boot drive hard drive also the selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► of food options for the pcie solid-state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► drives that being said if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► somehow make this configuration work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► have configured what I think would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► modern version of the high and mac pro t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► 12-core mac pro the current 12-core mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► pro which is three years old and slow 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► gig one terabyte pci-express SD base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► video card which is the D 500 ish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► is eight hundred dollars for this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► that m800 by the way i think is now less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► powerful than the GPU in the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► probably yeah so the similar del with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► oh crap i'm sorry i had the eight-core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► selected to change the switch the micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► a call right Mac Pro 7300 dollars in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► Acorn fix every 300 macro 5404 the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► the dealt with the brand new parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► are faster so it there is a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► price gain here for you for you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► if you wanted to do pc hardware that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► similar and in many ways better but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► would like 10 or even HP or anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► would be better know the only reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► went to del on this was that I checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► earlier in the week and HP does not seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► to offer the Broadwell easy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► they're all the VIII's and probably for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► anyway doesn't matter but yeah it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► the purpose of building a hackintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► azure workstations or anything else have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► apple licensed the OSD clone makers even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► if they charge like three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► dollars for like some you know large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► price for the OS it would still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► pretty price competitive to go with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► clone maker but that's probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► reason they're not going to do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► that being said you can look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► they're doing you know as mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► earlier it is very noticeable that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► are outsourcing some of their dongles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► belkin they are outsourcing their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► monitor to LG I think it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► that Apple is trying to get themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► out of businesses like they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► exiting businesses they're excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► display business their ass on that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► somebody's darling outsourcing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► and like the belkin ethernet adapter box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► it looks like an apple product it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► it looks like the product itself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► this is clearly like Apple is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► get themselves out of these non-core may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► it wouldn't surprise me if they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► did do some kind of weird partnership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► 22 or you know HP or whatever to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► something that I mean it seemed it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► crazy to tell Mac people that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► would ever do is some kind of clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► program again but if you look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► they're actually doing today that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► totally out of the question now I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► think it's incredibly unlikely I i do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► i would not count on it because i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► i would assume that if Apple wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► computer like this to exist they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► just make themselves but it there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► is now president in and what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► doing in their lineup to effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► outsourced less interesting parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► their business to other companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► make it their problem whenever something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► needs service or to manage the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► interesting part of their business to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► some people like the eye and hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► it's kind of like getting back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► hell guard thing like that they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► be making that in-house busy as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► even just as a motivational tool for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► their for their internal tech team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► for their customers but i think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► have to be it couldn't just be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► licensing arrangement because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► just that Apple wants to make like 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► boxing when they sell I there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► support burden to every new models out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► everything so I think it would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► be more of a partial ownership profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► sharing type thing which would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► mean these machines would not be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► the mac loans they wouldn't be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► expensive for the same hardware they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► will be just as expensive as if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► mated the only difference would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► you said that Apple outsources some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► portion of it and it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► belkin connector and like I said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► early Mac groans you wonder how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► that is belkin's work and how much of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► is Apple's a lot of the original macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Matt clones were Apple reference designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► modified and a lot of companies do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► give you like a reference bored and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► you can tweak it and everything but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► for for the belt on the LG Display how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► much involvement that Apple have in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► creation of those peripherals was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► purely here you go companyyou're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► allowed to make this here are the specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► figure it out or did apple cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► with them very closely surely for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► software integration for the LG screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► hardware level like you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► know what goes on in these relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► monetary deals could be worked out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► would hope the apples today bargaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► up from a position of strength and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► from position of Michael Spindler what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► would make the arrangements so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► very profitable to apple and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► company that they're partying with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► just feel itself lucky to even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► allowed to work with apples apples so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► awesome and that apple would come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► ahead on it financially while removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► whatever burdens they feel are put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► him i think by the way for the high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► is totally wrong move because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► should totally be doing the high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► house because now we can discuss I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► we also discussed in slack but i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► i'm just doing is reiterating my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► car thing in seven different ways to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► people to understand how this works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► having them complained to me even Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► was like I don't buy my car because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► there's a high-end car from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► maker i don't have the discussion again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► but what would will go home I sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► I don't know you had the voice plugin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► unfortunate but wow alright admitted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► betterment 0 and hover and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► mean to be in as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► accidental John research Marco in kc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► sorry for the people waiting for service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► studio and switch i think we have exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► actually exhausted all the follow-up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► tangible topics related to the macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► pronouncement on and i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► take all the blame for this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► people keep sending us feedback about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► because it's not just it's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► got to get off this macbook pro issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► they keep the listeners are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► talking to us about it but I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► so next week for sure unless something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► Microsoft service to do another switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► what are they going to get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► fireworks factory that's a simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► you got it new job the only reason I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► it is because you've used that on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► like seven times it's not being way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► than seven women that's what else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► going on other than the obvious that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► rather not discuss i will say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► Thank You audience and you guys this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► been nice to you know get my mind off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► yeah i agree Grand Tours coming back not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► not this coming saturday friday but week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► from this coming friday then coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► as it already yeah sorry no no I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► was a poor choice of words it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► starting when I i say coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► because I think of it as top gear again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► but but anyway that's that's a week from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► yeah you need to remind me of that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► is it is a is Amazon only rec'd it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► amazon i don't know when it will like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► what time of day it's happening but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► streaming one episode per week for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► weeks and I believe there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► presumably offspring and a fall season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► since we're getting kind of fall season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► now i'm really looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► speaking of TV although i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► get onto depressing politics but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► the one of the analogies and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► jokes and the stocks that have been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► and involving this election has another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► show black mirror which is a show ya UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► i don't want to say it's a BBC show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► because then you get yelled at because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► it's not there's other places to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► anyway whatever it's a show in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► you guys remember amazing stories maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► you too young for that number to you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► I've seen I've seen some of black mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► episodes and i think given what just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► happened it's going to be a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► before I'm in the mood to watch any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► yeah so like amazing stories like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► twilight zone is the older reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► like every week there's a new episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► and it's a site usually sci-fi related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► characters is no you know through-line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► stories just like here's a little side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► it's like sci-fi short stories for TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► and while I don't have a particular been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► to it and so did amazing stories which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► is a Spielberg ask thing black mirrors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► bent is sci-fi independent stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► are usually really depressing like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► black mirror like three of the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► right and so like Marco said maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► in the mood to watch them right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► black nerve me personally I find it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► little bit silly and overblown because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► I've seen all these same ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► stories before and then taken to the nth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► ridiculous but sometimes this one once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► whatever i'm not a big fan of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► people are but on the specific topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► this current season black mera season 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► that maybe come out all at once not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► the the grant orbits are not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► they make them ahead of time and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► hey way where there is one episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► this season of black mare this third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► season a black mirror which is like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► terrible slog of overblown sci-fi but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► there's one episode but i think actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► i watched it and I felt good after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► watching i'm not going to say it's happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► and you can judge for yourself whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► it is like you know the feel-good story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► of the century but i think it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► safe for people to watch even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► feeling bad and that episode is Sanjana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► peril which I with my favorite episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► of black mare ever which probably means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► that i just don't like black mare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► because it's at least black mirror of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► any black mare episode but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► encourage you if you're looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► sci-fi short story on TV and don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► to be super depressed black mayor season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► Sanjana para which is episode wait seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► seconds we'll chat room to look up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► 4 episode number 4 case you beat them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► it because he's listening to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► real-time cheating and there's a chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► room and so what was the summary of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► no no you gotta know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► black mirror episodes you start watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► them so nothing you want to tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► anything no you can't know everyone's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► no spoilers like they're my goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► so I figured who was shoot it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► the new york city-based developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► I'm drawing a blank which one it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► mine Brian I race head guilted me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► watching one of the episodes black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► mirror and the one that I watched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► was a couple years ago now was about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► British Prime Minister being black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6055">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► yeah that's I had no desire to back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► not the tone that sets a tone for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► show that is the appropriate tone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► the show always is either except for san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► gennaro I'm not saying it's a bad show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► i'm just saying yeah I still watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► and I was like this is not for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► nothing to do watch off season 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► Mark are no no i I've i don't really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► mean all the way through season two I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► think we watched all of season one at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► least I was a good thing like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► skip to any episodes anytime because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► there's no through lines yeah and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► pick one out but I get some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► season three episodes are just so Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► like it just it's it's almost a parody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► of itself at this point but Sandra peril [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► thumbs up now it's like it's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► show like it's so it's such a downer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► so dark that that you you if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► anything bad or stressful going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► your life it's not a good show to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► opportunities where I really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► watch shows like that recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► that's not going to change the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► I said try this episode it is not up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► I'm i think he will watch it and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► curse my name after you watch it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► a high bar okay that's your idea of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► feel you will improve your mood and okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► i will give i will let anything get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► part of the reason and improves your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► mood is like the context was like wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► this is a black mirror episode it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► be terrible and cream and it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► feel awesome about it's like you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► the worst then you get this thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► rest of black mirror briefly who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► have thought that this episode would end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► with a recommendation of an uplifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► yeah I was surprised as anyone I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► the end i even went to the intent to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► maybe it's not actually uplifting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► I'm reading it wrong and so you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► internet you're like no actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► super dark here's the ending but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► creators of the shower like no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► actually have left thing just accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► yeah no I mean I I wouldn't be opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► to watching uplifting one but the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► having watched the very first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► like i said i decided it was not for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► not to say it's not for you or anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► else it just wasn't for me i have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► to be depressed about 12 pressing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► poor choice of words i have enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► television as well yeah that's what hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► tonight for our current like casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► series because we started the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► tonight just like this we just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► something that's not like even parks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► rec is to political that looks like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► god you can't even do that yet just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► something light that is just not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► add to anything bad just watched some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► miyazaki movies which you've probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► never seen any of you guys remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► seeing anything that's correct yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► if you don't show up you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► showing our total by this point this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► feel like you're neglecting your duties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► apparent yes turnaround is just you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► find it just find it and show it to Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► and the whole family can watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► yeah i downloaded millennium whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► whatever when it was when it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► it's all it's all the same job that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► all time yeah can you stay calm siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► yeah that's why I know that works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► so i downloaded that circus the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► the Millennium whatever millennial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► whatever actually diem millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► actress which is probably millennial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► actors I don't even know Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► millennial she was born for me that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► my god it's not the one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► that are like in the X shape is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► right yes the y-wing the sick thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► we're gonna get so many emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► people thinking that were serious when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► were deliberately trolling John anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► I'm point is i downloaded that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► forever ago when you and Merlin talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► about it and I saw him and watched yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► so i need to get on that you mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTxGbfs/6278">TS</a>]