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00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected episode 379.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It's a big one today, folks.

00:00:14 ◼   ► It is made possible by our sponsors,

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00:00:19 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett

00:00:20 ◼   ► and I'm joined as always by Mr. Myke Hurley.

00:00:22 ◼   ► - Hello, happy new year.

00:00:24 ◼   ► - Happy new year.

00:00:25 ◼   ► Can you say that in Romanian?

00:00:27 ◼   ► - No.

00:00:28 ◼   ► Would you like me to say Merry Christmas?

00:00:30 ◼   ► Crèce un ferrecite, but that's not what you want at all.

00:00:34 ◼   ► Let me Google it.

00:00:36 ◼   ► Happy New Year in Romanian.

00:00:38 ◼   ► - While you're doing that. - I can do it right now.

00:00:40 ◼   ► - Federico. - Ah, a nun ferrecite.

00:00:42 ◼   ► Oh.

00:00:43 ◼   ► You should have gotten the Happy New Year in-app purchase in Duolingo.

00:00:46 ◼   ► You only got the Christmas one.

00:00:48 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:00:52 ◼   ► Duolingo Romanian, when I did it, was really bad.

00:00:54 ◼   ► It just didn't teach me anything of any use.

00:00:56 ◼   ► I did it for ages and it was just like I learned how to say rice and boy and like it's just like this is no good

00:01:02 ◼   ► Get pretty far with those two in a restaurant boy rice. That's all I could do just eat rice

00:01:09 ◼   ► Federico happy new year buddy. Hello. Happy new year to you as well. Hi. So this is a very important episode

00:01:19 ◼   ► We will be judging the Ricky's the annual Ricky's from 2021

00:01:26 ◼   ► So we'll be naming potentially a new annual chairman.

00:01:30 ◼   ► We'll get to all of that later.

00:01:32 ◼   ► And then after that, we're gonna make our picks for 2022.

00:01:34 ◼   ► So we've been hard at work on this for a couple of weeks.

00:01:37 ◼   ► I think it's gonna be a lot of fun,

00:01:39 ◼   ► but we have just a little,

00:01:40 ◼   ► just a tiny little bit of follow-up.

00:01:42 ◼   ► - A smidgen.

00:01:43 ◼   ► - A smidge.

00:01:44 ◼   ► - A follow-up.

00:01:44 ◼   ► - It's not even like a smudge.

00:01:45 ◼   ► It's like half a smudge.

00:01:46 ◼   ► - Smuh.

00:01:47 ◼   ► - Smidge.

00:01:48 ◼   ► - A smuh is half of a smudge.

00:01:50 ◼   ► - Smuh, smuh.

00:01:51 ◼   ► - Smuh.

00:01:52 ◼   ► - Smuh.

00:01:53 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:01:54 ◼   ► - So we have some smollow up.

00:01:55 ◼   ► No, wouldn't it be like, "Follow up, follow up."

00:01:59 ◼   ► It's half a follow up?

00:02:00 ◼   ► Follow up.

00:02:01 ◼   ► Follow up.

00:02:03 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:02:04 ◼   ► This is bad.

00:02:05 ◼   ► We did our annual year in review,

00:02:09 ◼   ► and that's always fun,

00:02:11 ◼   ► but I realized while editing it

00:02:14 ◼   ► that they also need a name.

00:02:17 ◼   ► Okay, so I was thinking this while we were recording.

00:02:21 ◼   ► I don't think they needed a name before.

00:02:23 ◼   ► Oh, come on.

00:02:24 ◼   ► No, no, no, no, no, hold on.

00:02:25 ◼   ► I didn't come up with a name. There was just a part in the recording where I was like,

00:02:29 ◼   ► "Should we name this?" and then I just let it go. And the reason was because we turned

00:02:34 ◼   ► it into a game. That was why. Previously it wasn't a game, but then we made it into a

00:02:39 ◼   ► game.

00:02:40 ◼   ► Yes. And ultimately everything the three of us do turns into a game.

00:02:44 ◼   ► Turns into a game.

00:02:45 ◼   ► So I have some, I have, well I have one suggestion. I suggest that we call it the Annie's.

00:02:51 ◼   ► Yeah, and it's the perfect suggestion. You made one suggestion, it was the correct suggestion.

00:02:55 ◼   ► nobody will contest it.

00:02:57 ◼   ► Because we were putting things on the tiki scale, which I think is a great way to keep

00:03:01 ◼   ► the tiki scale alive and to do the anis, I kind of think we have to come up with some

00:03:06 ◼   ► rules about how we score things.

00:03:09 ◼   ► Why do we need rules?

00:03:12 ◼   ► Can we just follow our instincts?

00:03:13 ◼   ► Yeah, can't that be there's only one rule of the anis?

00:03:17 ◼   ► Follow your heart.

00:03:18 ◼   ► That doesn't sound like us.

00:03:20 ◼   ► So do you want to have a rule for when something is nightmare?

00:03:23 ◼   ► I feel like that's the one thing we need to talk about because we didn't award a nightmare.

00:03:29 ◼   ► We should mirror that Supreme Court decision and saying that nightmare...

00:03:33 ◼   ► You know it when you see it.

00:03:35 ◼   ► That's how I feel too.

00:03:38 ◼   ► Like there wasn't a nightmare month, but like for example March 2020 nightmare, right?

00:03:45 ◼   ► That was nightmare.

00:03:46 ◼   ► Yeah that's nightmare.

00:03:47 ◼   ► But I don't know what the next nightmare might be so I don't feel like I want to put a rule

00:03:51 ◼   ► around it.

00:03:52 ◼   ► I kind of feel like I'm living it right now.

00:03:53 ◼   ► Okay, okay, that works for me.

00:03:55 ◼   ► I just want to make sure we're on the same page.

00:03:55 ◼   ► - You started this.

00:03:56 ◼   ► I don't know why this is a problem for you.

00:03:59 ◼   ► I think it's nightmare is a possible thing,

00:04:01 ◼   ► but it's not gonna happen very much, you know?

00:04:05 ◼   ► - It just so happened that it didn't,

00:04:07 ◼   ► that there wasn't one in 2021.

00:04:10 ◼   ► If things are going the way that they are,

00:04:12 ◼   ► there will be at least a couple in 2022.

00:04:15 ◼   ► So yeah, I think we'll use it.

00:04:19 ◼   ► - Sparingly.

00:04:21 ◼   ► - Unless you want to completely

00:04:23 ◼   ► bell curve every year, which is also a possibility.

00:04:26 ◼   ► Like there has to be at least one nightmare,

00:04:28 ◼   ► and there has to be one best I love you of every year.

00:04:30 ◼   ► - No, I kind of like that you know it when you see it.

00:04:33 ◼   ► - We still, I mean, it's still going to be

00:04:34 ◼   ► a bell curve type thing, right?

00:04:36 ◼   ► There's always going to be more in the middle.

00:04:39 ◼   ► Here's my question.

00:04:40 ◼   ► Do you think you will remember next year

00:04:42 ◼   ► that it's called the Annie's?

00:04:43 ◼   ► Do you think you will remember this?

00:04:45 ◼   ► - I put it in the Google Doc, so we'll remember.

00:04:48 ◼   ► - Make sure to also say that nightmare is on a,

00:04:53 ◼   ► you know it when you see it bases.

00:04:54 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:04:55 ◼   ► - Where in, oh there it is.

00:04:57 ◼   ► The bottom, so listen, you don't get this,

00:04:59 ◼   ► but the bottom of our Google Doc

00:05:01 ◼   ► is just full of so much like stuff now

00:05:04 ◼   ► because of all of the very--

00:05:05 ◼   ► - Junk.

00:05:06 ◼   ► - I didn't wanna say junk, you know?

00:05:08 ◼   ► - It's not junk.

00:05:09 ◼   ► It's rules, it's links to things we need sometimes.

00:05:13 ◼   ► It is the topic graveyard, which is the best.

00:05:17 ◼   ► - That's the junk.

00:05:18 ◼   ► - Completed roasts.

00:05:20 ◼   ► - Oh, that's a lot of stuff.

00:05:21 ◼   ► Do you know what this should be? A Notion document. I'm just saying. Oh my god. It's

00:05:28 ◼   ► ripe for the... Database disruption. Yep. Yep. I would like to just lodge a complaint

00:05:37 ◼   ► with Jeremy Budge. Oh. Ooh. Okay. If that's okay. So Jeremy announced today that he is

00:05:45 ◼   ► going to be stepping away from Emojipedia, which is something I just naturally assumed

00:05:50 ◼   ► was going to happen after Emojipedia was acquired. But this wasn't the thing he announced at

00:05:57 ◼   ► the time. And the person who's coming in to replace him is Keith Brony. And I am annoyed

00:06:03 ◼   ► that we didn't get to potentially call it "The Bronies" at the time when we decided

00:06:11 ◼   ► we were definitely calling it "The Jeremy's". And so I feel like he robbed me of that moment

00:06:17 ◼   ► of being able to suggest that we renamed the Jeremy's to the Bronies.

00:06:22 ◼   ► And so that is my complaint lodged with Jeremy Burge, previously of Emojipedia, now of just

00:06:27 ◼   ► Jeremy Burge.

00:06:28 ◼   ► We can't call him the Bronies.

00:06:31 ◼   ► We can't call him the Bronies.

00:06:32 ◼   ► I know why, that's the joke, right?

00:06:34 ◼   ► Because Bronies are already a thing, and I think it would be hilarious to have posited

00:06:38 ◼   ► it and maybe even created a fake one just for that one time.

00:06:42 ◼   ► Or maybe we could reach the wide Bronie.

00:06:46 ◼   ► We could have, see?

00:06:47 ◼   ► We could have had a new area to attack, but we haven't...

00:06:52 ◼   ► Yeah, but are you also just like, appropriating their culture?

00:06:55 ◼   ► We'd spell it differently. So like, it would sound like it,

00:06:59 ◼   ► but wouldn't say it wouldn't be spelt the same. And so then we're not taking it away,

00:07:05 ◼   ► or even trying to pretend that we're good at it.

00:07:07 ◼   ► No, it wouldn't be cultural appropriation for the Brony community.

00:07:11 ◼   ► Because we have tried our best to obfuscate it in spelling.

00:07:15 ◼   ► So there you go. My complaint has been lodged and just to confirm for anybody wondering,

00:07:21 ◼   ► it will continue to be called The Jeremy's forever. Yes. Jeremy of The Jeremy's now, I guess.

00:07:28 ◼   ► So it's Jeremy Burge of The Jeremy's. We should do the artwork. Well, we're still,

00:07:34 ◼   ► like, the first time we do it, it's still called The Jeremy's, but there's like in memoriam.

00:07:38 ◼   ► Of Jeremy? He's still very much alive.

00:07:44 ◼   ► Yeah, he's alive, but like digitally speaking, he has exited the connected multiverse.

00:07:54 ◼   ► That's interesting because I was thinking that we could kind of turn him into our Jeff Keighley,

00:07:58 ◼   ► as like all that Jeremy's about is an awards show and that's all he's about, like 100% of his time,

00:08:06 ◼   ► it's all anybody knows him for, you know? Federico, you know what I'm talking about,

00:08:10 ◼   ► Stephen doesn't. Instead, I was thinking he could be like the Jeff Keighley of connected.

00:08:14 ◼   ► Stephen's googling. Stephen's googling, right? Are you googling Jeff Keighley?

00:08:18 ◼   ► No, I'm not.

00:08:19 ◼   ► Okay, good. Don't. You shouldn't. You don't want to.

00:08:21 ◼   ► No, I'd kind of be bothered.

00:08:22 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:23 ◼   ► But no. Congratulations, Jeremy. Enjoy your emoji retirement.

00:08:27 ◼   ► Congratulations, Keith, also.

00:08:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:30 ◼   ► Congratulations, Keith.

00:08:31 ◼   ► Big Keith energy.

00:08:32 ◼   ► Big Keith energy.

00:08:33 ◼   ► So we have, uh, we got some, some work to do today. Some very important work.

00:08:38 ◼   ► work but before we started I just wanted to shine a little light a little light

00:08:44 ◼   ► of love for Lex who puts together Rickies.co he put together a massive

00:08:52 ◼   ► like I guess a 2.0 leading up to this and there are some amazing new features

00:08:59 ◼   ► there'll be links in the show notes to the annual Rickies 21 and 22 so you can

00:09:04 ◼   ► see those, but just some amazing things that have been added to this website, including

00:09:09 ◼   ► I think our joint favorite, a feature called "Ahead of its Time."

00:09:14 ◼   ► Oh, I love that.

00:09:15 ◼   ► This is so good.

00:09:17 ◼   ► So good.

00:09:19 ◼   ► When I saw this, I was like, "Oh my god!"

00:09:21 ◼   ► And that was how I felt, and I'm now giving you some of that energy.

00:09:24 ◼   ► There's also "Buzzkill."

00:09:26 ◼   ► It's like, if you have a Flexi or a pick that's negative, you can be labeled a buzzkill, which

00:09:33 ◼   ► is pretty good. Just so we can explain though, the ahead of its time is if we picked something

00:09:40 ◼   ► that's wrong but it later comes true, Lex goes back and updates the previous pick. So

00:09:47 ◼   ► like, for example, if we'd picked something and then seven months later we're right, then

00:09:53 ◼   ► he goes back and updates it. And then on each of our individual hosts page, like host listings,

00:09:58 ◼   ► because we all have our own pages with a bunch of statistics about our scores and stuff,

00:10:03 ◼   ► or we have our own sections in it, we get like an ahead of its time statistic, which

00:10:10 ◼   ► is just, it's so good.

00:10:12 ◼   ► 30%!

00:10:13 ◼   ► Yep.

00:10:14 ◼   ► 30% of my round picks came true later.

00:10:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:10:18 ◼   ► Wow.

00:10:19 ◼   ► You're ahead of your time.

00:10:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:10:22 ◼   ► Only 20% of mine, Myke and I are about tied.

00:10:24 ◼   ► Myke has won 9 of 12 coin flips.

00:10:29 ◼   ► I know, it's unreal.

00:10:31 ◼   ► What is wrong with you?

00:10:32 ◼   ► I've been involved in 11 of them, I think, or 10 of them.

00:10:34 ◼   ► I've only ever lost once.

00:10:36 ◼   ► It's pretty wild.

00:10:38 ◼   ► So yeah, this leaderboard page is just amazing.

00:10:41 ◼   ► Yeah, and there's also now like a timeline, an interactive timeline, showing who held

00:10:47 ◼   ► each award, like each championship over the entire history of the rookies.

00:10:52 ◼   ► like a Gantt chart which is super cool. There's a new search function which has a

00:10:57 ◼   ► bunch of categories which is really helpful for us when we're making our

00:11:00 ◼   ► picks to make because Lex also put in I feel like this is very helpful on each

00:11:06 ◼   ► like each item if it is eligible for being picked again within the one-year

00:11:11 ◼   ► rule which is very helpful. There's also some other thing called the pickies but

00:11:16 ◼   ► like that seems like junk I don't know what that is it's got nothing. Yeah I

00:11:18 ◼   ► think you got hacked. Yeah Lex by the way something terrible happened to your

00:11:22 ◼   ► website. Yeah, I think he left the default, like the placeholder data. I think the

00:11:27 ◼   ► pick is like the lorem ipsum code. It's basically that.

00:11:32 ◼   ► There's just like a bunch of like really bad picks in here, like I

00:11:35 ◼   ► don't really know. Yeah, it's default examples for like to test the website.

00:11:40 ◼   ► And a selection of rules that don't really make any sense. So, alright, so let's take our first break and then we

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00:13:22 ◼   ► Before we get to the rules,

00:13:24 ◼   ► we had a suggestion from listener,

00:13:28 ◼   ► Dr. Arden Burrell.

00:13:32 ◼   ► He's a doctor.

00:13:33 ◼   ► It's right there in his Twitter handle.

00:13:35 ◼   ► It must be true.

00:13:36 ◼   ► - Dr. Okay.

00:13:37 ◼   ► - And the good doctor recommended that we have

00:13:41 ◼   ► some sort of,

00:13:44 ◼   ► some sort of preamble

00:13:46 ◼   ► to explain what the Ricky's are.

00:13:49 ◼   ► The people coming into this

00:13:51 ◼   ► may have no idea what's going on.

00:13:52 ◼   ► - I feel like you're not following the process here.

00:13:56 ◼   ► - What does that mean?

00:13:57 ◼   ► - Well, surely this would be added to the rules, right?

00:14:00 ◼   ► - Well, I think it's before the rules.

00:14:02 ◼   ► I think it's preamble.

00:14:04 ◼   ► It's like, we stay with the Ricky's.

00:14:06 ◼   ► - It feels like it would be in the rules document, right?

00:14:09 ◼   ► - That you have to read the preamble every time?

00:14:12 ◼   ► - No, like at the opening of like a rules document,

00:14:15 ◼   ► it could have the explanation for what the rules

00:14:18 ◼   ► are even for, right?

00:14:19 ◼   ► - Well, we can both be right

00:14:21 ◼   ► because we haven't started the rules yet.

00:14:22 ◼   ► - No, 'cause what I was gonna say is,

00:14:24 ◼   ► if this is going to be a part of the rules document,

00:14:27 ◼   ► any amendments to the rules document

00:14:29 ◼   ► occur after the rules are read in their entirety,

00:14:31 ◼   ► and then we go back and make changes.

00:14:34 ◼   ► - Well.

00:14:34 ◼   ► - So I feel like you're not following the process.

00:14:36 ◼   ► - Well, maybe you can add that as a rule.

00:14:37 ◼   ► - I was just gonna say, there should be a rule that says,

00:14:41 ◼   ► no, I don't want that one.

00:14:42 ◼   ► - So what do we think about some sort of introduction?

00:14:44 ◼   ► We should, should we read the doctor's suggestion?

00:14:49 ◼   ► - Was the doctor ordered?

00:14:52 ◼   ► Yes. (laughing)

00:14:55 ◼   ► - Well done.

00:14:56 ◼   ► - Please.

00:14:57 ◼   ► - All right, so he writes, "The Rickies is a competition

00:15:00 ◼   ► "to determine which connected host has the greatest skill

00:15:03 ◼   ► "at predicting Apple announcements."

00:15:05 ◼   ► It's pretty good.

00:15:08 ◼   ► I feel like it lacks a certain twist

00:15:09 ◼   ► of the knife we're looking for.

00:15:12 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:15:12 ◼   ► because it does say anything about a loser.

00:15:16 ◼   ► So maybe like who's the best and the worst

00:15:20 ◼   ► at predicting Apple announcements?

00:15:23 ◼   ► - It lacks a bit of panache, this description, I think.

00:15:27 ◼   ► - What about, I mean obviously the word passion

00:15:34 ◼   ► has to be in there.

00:15:36 ◼   ► - Right. - Right.

00:15:38 ◼   ► - I feel like, so here is my suggestion here.

00:15:41 ◼   ► Agree with this but it needs work. So maybe for the next Ricky's

00:15:46 ◼   ► This is the amendment to be made because I do feel like by us discussing the need for preamble

00:15:52 ◼   ► We can already have a preamble for this set of Rick

00:15:54 ◼   ► Yes, because you just read what the doctor suggested and what the doctor suggested is enough to understand

00:16:00 ◼   ► However, I would like there to be something that maybe we have written or spent some more time with

00:16:07 ◼   ► Okay, but so why don't we put that in as a potential change for the next time?

00:16:11 ◼   ► Okay, let's all stand and I will read the rules

00:16:15 ◼   ► There are two types of Ricky's annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's

00:16:24 ◼   ► The winner of the annual Ricky's is named annual chairman and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account for the full year

00:16:32 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January

00:16:35 ◼   ► I just want to state for all the mic fans out there. I'm sorry. I didn't shout. Let's read the rules

00:16:39 ◼   ► I know that there's a selection of people a small group of people that wanted that. What do you want to do it right now?

00:16:44 ◼   ► No, cuz it's too late now. I'll make sure to get it in for the flexes. Yeah, we got another set of rules to read

00:16:50 ◼   ► Okay

00:16:51 ◼   ► The keynote rookies winner is named the keynote chairman and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account until the next keynote is held

00:16:57 ◼   ► Order for the annual rookies is based on the winner of the previous year

00:17:02 ◼   ► Order for the keynote rookies is based on the previous Apple event. The loser goes last

00:17:07 ◼   ► To earn any points everything written down in the prediction document must come true. No half points may be awarded in any round

00:17:16 ◼   ► Picks cannot be reused by any contestant within 365 days of first being made

00:17:23 ◼   ► Can I just say it's gonna interrupt for one second? Can I just read that?

00:17:26 ◼   ► We're gonna talk about the rules at the end. Sorry. No, sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry order in the court

00:17:31 ◼   ► One point is awarded for any pick deemed correct in the first two rounds

00:17:35 ◼   ► Two points will be awarded for correct picks in the risky pick round. If your risky pick is wrong

00:17:41 ◼   ► You will lose a point and the two other hosts must agree that your pick is risky

00:17:46 ◼   ► For keynote rookies the scoring window starts when the event begins and closes when the picks are scored

00:17:53 ◼   ► information must be publicly

00:17:56 ◼   ► verifiable to be used in scoring

00:17:59 ◼   ► After scoring is complete, each host must update their official Ricky trophy's late 2021 to reflect the new winner.

00:18:06 ◼   ► The large location marker is for the annual chairman, while the smaller location marker is for the keynote chairman.

00:18:13 ◼   ► Trophies should remain in sync at all times,

00:18:15 ◼   ► with photographic evidence provided on demand. As a reminder,

00:18:20 ◼   ► Myke is the current annual chairman that is up today, potentially. We'll see if he holds on to it.

00:18:27 ◼   ► Myke is also the current keynote chairman. No, he isn't. Oh, he's not? Oh someone didn't update the document Federico

00:18:34 ◼   ► Have you not updated your trophy? Because I look at my trophy every single day

00:18:37 ◼   ► So I know that Federico is the keynote. No, my trophy is right. The document was wrong

00:18:41 ◼   ► So what you're saying is the ruled document was incorrect. That feels upset

00:18:45 ◼   ► It was just a what's like not really in the rules as like explainer. It's an italics

00:18:50 ◼   ► So we have a couple things in the rules. We need to address

00:18:52 ◼   ► You had one it sounded like oh, it wasn't that it was just merely. I'm sorry

00:18:56 ◼   ► I'm sorry I interrupted you. It was the 365 day thing really screwed us because we did our last

00:19:02 ◼   ► picks 363 days ago so that made things particularly tricky for me when because I made a couple of

00:19:07 ◼   ► picks and had to change them because it hasn't been a year since we did the annual picks so that

00:19:12 ◼   ► was very annoying. The trophy has been named the tricky. This is the trophy that the three of us

00:19:17 ◼   ► have the wooden one that lights up. Correct. So I suggest that we change Ricky's trophy late 2021 to

00:19:23 ◼   ► to just saying the official trophy named the tricky?

00:19:27 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:19:28 ◼   ► I feel like we need to--

00:19:29 ◼   ► - Just, just, there, must update their official tricky.

00:19:32 ◼   ► - The official trophy?

00:19:33 ◼   ► - To reflect the new winner.

00:19:35 ◼   ► - And then we have a note on trophies should remain

00:19:39 ◼   ► in sync at all times.

00:19:40 ◼   ► One, maybe we should call it the closing ceremony.

00:19:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, somebody recommended that, I think,

00:19:45 ◼   ► that this is the closing ceremonies of the rookies

00:19:48 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think so. - since we're updating

00:19:49 ◼   ► our trophies.

00:19:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, I like it.

00:19:51 ◼   ► I don't think we have to include that in the rules,

00:19:53 ◼   ► or we can if we want to.

00:19:54 ◼   ► - I think we should, 'cause I just think the idea

00:19:57 ◼   ► of saying it's the closing ceremony.

00:19:58 ◼   ► - Trophies, okay, trophies, what if we say this?

00:20:00 ◼   ► Trophies should be updated at the end of scoring.

00:20:05 ◼   ► - As part of the closing ceremony.

00:20:07 ◼   ► - As part of the closing ceremonies.

00:20:09 ◼   ► And then, obviously, since last time we were

00:20:12 ◼   ► in this document, we have shipped,

00:20:15 ◼   ► and they've all been shipped.

00:20:16 ◼   ► If you don't live in America, yours is on the way.

00:20:19 ◼   ► it's just slow, promise you it's coming,

00:20:22 ◼   ► that people have Magtrickies,

00:20:23 ◼   ► the magnetic version of the magnet,

00:20:25 ◼   ► and so people, as they listen to this,

00:20:27 ◼   ► can hold their own private closing ceremony.

00:20:30 ◼   ► - Correct.

00:20:31 ◼   ► - To update their at-home trophy.

00:20:34 ◼   ► - Yes, I think that should be added in,

00:20:36 ◼   ► it's like another line,

00:20:37 ◼   ► and listeners with Magtrickies

00:20:39 ◼   ► should also take this time to update.

00:20:41 ◼   ► - They should hold their own private...

00:20:46 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:20:46 ◼   ► - Closing ceremony.

00:20:48 ◼   ► with their magnetic.

00:20:50 ◼   ► - Now, what about me?

00:20:51 ◼   ► 'Cause I have both a Tricky and a Magtricky.

00:20:54 ◼   ► - Well, I mean, you're just on your own.

00:20:56 ◼   ► - I have to listen back to the show

00:20:57 ◼   ► and make my own private closing story.

00:20:59 ◼   ► - Federico has two, but they're being held

00:21:01 ◼   ► in a warehouse in Italy for two weeks.

00:21:03 ◼   ► - For some, oh, I don't know.

00:21:05 ◼   ► We don't know.

00:21:06 ◼   ► - Beats us.

00:21:07 ◼   ► We have both talked to UPS.

00:21:08 ◼   ► - You two are very bad at sending things to each other.

00:21:11 ◼   ► - It includes, well, the last thing we heard

00:21:13 ◼   ► was the problem was is that I included holiday card

00:21:16 ◼   ► as a line item on the form,

00:21:19 ◼   ► 'cause I wanted to be thorough.

00:21:20 ◼   ► I didn't want to get Federico in trouble

00:21:21 ◼   ► about shipping stuff I didn't disclose.

00:21:24 ◼   ► And apparently Italy doesn't like that we said

00:21:27 ◼   ► it had no value, so.

00:21:29 ◼   ► - Well, your holiday card has value.

00:21:31 ◼   ► Come on. - Yeah, but like,

00:21:32 ◼   ► yeah, but the calendar was like 50 bucks or whatever,

00:21:35 ◼   ► you know, and then I think we put a dollar

00:21:38 ◼   ► is what we decided on, but here it is.

00:21:38 ◼   ► - That's so ridiculous, custom stuff is so ridiculous.

00:21:41 ◼   ► - It's infuriating. - Can I just say as well,

00:21:42 ◼   ► the closing ceremonies, right,

00:21:44 ◼   ► so I like putting that in there,

00:21:45 ◼   ► because having a closing ceremony makes it possible that at some point in the future

00:21:48 ◼   ► we may have an opening ceremony to the Rickies.

00:21:50 ◼   ► Yes it does.

00:21:51 ◼   ► And I find that tantalizing because I don't know what that might be but I like it.

00:21:56 ◼   ► Clearly the rules would be part of it but maybe there's like a torch, you know?

00:22:00 ◼   ► Who knows?

00:22:01 ◼   ► I don't know if we need open flame in our offices.

00:22:05 ◼   ► But it would definitely raise the passion.

00:22:08 ◼   ► Candle lit picks.

00:22:09 ◼   ► Yeah, candle lit, candle, candle.

00:22:11 ◼   ► No, never mind.

00:22:12 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:22:13 ◼   ► No, I didn't.

00:22:14 ◼   ► I mean if you think about it, a torch is just a big candle.

00:22:17 ◼   ► - So is that the rules then?

00:22:19 ◼   ► - I think the rules are done.

00:22:22 ◼   ► - Can we sit down?

00:22:24 ◼   ► - Yes, oh yes, I'm sorry, please be seated.

00:22:26 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, 'cause you're a Steven,

00:22:28 ◼   ► Steven stands when he records now, so you know,

00:22:31 ◼   ► he's always standing. - Like it's spicy.

00:22:32 ◼   ► - So you know, he's like a standing person,

00:22:34 ◼   ► so he doesn't even think about people that sit anymore.

00:22:37 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was thinking the other day,

00:22:38 ◼   ► like can I get a treadmill under this desk?

00:22:40 ◼   ► - Oh, we've lost him.

00:22:41 ◼   ► - No, I wasn't looking at that.

00:22:42 ◼   ► - That's it, that's the end.

00:22:44 ◼   ► Goodbye.

00:22:45 ◼   ► - Round one, Myke, you went first in 2021.

00:22:50 ◼   ► Why don't you read us your pick?

00:22:51 ◼   ► - Did that mean that I won 2020?

00:22:52 ◼   ► I've forgotten that now.

00:22:53 ◼   ► I guess it did, right?

00:22:54 ◼   ► - If those were the rules at the time, then yes.

00:22:58 ◼   ► - I guess if only there was somewhere that I could go

00:23:02 ◼   ► to find out this information.

00:23:04 ◼   ► I'm actually, I wanna know now, so I'm gonna check.

00:23:07 ◼   ► But I'll, 'cause that feels important to me now.

00:23:09 ◼   ► Was I a two year?

00:23:11 ◼   ► Yeah, I did.

00:23:11 ◼   ► I was two years, two years running.

00:23:13 ◼   ► Let's see if I can make it three years running.

00:23:15 ◼   ► My first pick was Apple announces a new Mac Pro

00:23:18 ◼   ► powered by Apple Silicon.

00:23:19 ◼   ► Uh-oh, that doesn't feel good.

00:23:22 ◼   ► - Oops, nope.

00:23:23 ◼   ► - That doesn't feel good.

00:23:24 ◼   ► - I seem to remember that felt aggressive at the time,

00:23:28 ◼   ► but hey, you.

00:23:29 ◼   ► - Really, did it feel aggressive?

00:23:31 ◼   ► I don't remember.

00:23:32 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, no, I think this is when we were discussing

00:23:35 ◼   ► what two years meant.

00:23:37 ◼   ► Was it two years transition from the announcement

00:23:40 ◼   ► or the first M1 Mac shipping?

00:23:43 ◼   ► I just figured it would happen before the end of 2021 and it didn't happen.

00:23:48 ◼   ► This, by the way, was the pick that I also suggested for what would be one of my round picks for this year's,

00:23:56 ◼   ► but obviously I cannot pick this anymore because it was 363 days ago like a chump.

00:24:02 ◼   ► So I've lost twice on this one.

00:24:05 ◼   ► Really?

00:24:06 ◼   ► Calendars?

00:24:07 ◼   ► So that didn't happen.

00:24:10 ◼   ► My round one pick.

00:24:11 ◼   ► I have a question for you on this actually.

00:24:13 ◼   ► Do you think, without the chip shortage, it would have happened?

00:24:19 ◼   ► No.

00:24:20 ◼   ► Well, I mean, I would like to introduce you to your Ricky pick later on then.

00:24:25 ◼   ► I mean, I don't know.

00:24:27 ◼   ► What does my Ricky pick say?

00:24:28 ◼   ► Oh yeah, look at that.

00:24:29 ◼   ► You're being very, very, very bullish for someone who made a very similar pick.

00:24:36 ◼   ► Actually, a much more aggressive pick.

00:24:38 ◼   ► We both sound like morons.

00:24:40 ◼   ► Well, I don't think I sound like a moron.

00:24:41 ◼   ► I think a lot of people thought that this was going to happen in 2021.

00:24:44 ◼   ► My pick, the iPad mini does receive a new design language in 2021.

00:24:50 ◼   ► Nice.

00:24:51 ◼   ► I have the two of you to thank for this because my pick was originally,

00:24:56 ◼   ► it would not be redesigned.

00:24:58 ◼   ► And you talked me out of that pick into the positive version

00:25:01 ◼   ► and I got a point for it.

00:25:02 ◼   ► So thank you.

00:25:03 ◼   ► So does that mean we also get a point?

00:25:05 ◼   ► Yeah, we share that one.

00:25:07 ◼   ► That's a third of a point each.

00:25:09 ◼   ► No, no.

00:25:10 ◼   ► As it says in the rules, no half points.

00:25:13 ◼   ► We could take a third of a point.

00:25:14 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:25:14 ◼   ► So I refuse to change that language because it infuriates Jason smell.

00:25:18 ◼   ► He, every time he's like, but what about other percentages?

00:25:21 ◼   ► We've just found the loophole.

00:25:23 ◼   ► It's a third of a point each, but we're not doing that.

00:25:26 ◼   ► We're not doing that.

00:25:26 ◼   ► All right.

00:25:27 ◼   ► So of course the iPad mini has the iPad pro and air design.

00:25:31 ◼   ► I love my iPad mini.

00:25:32 ◼   ► I was just talking with Mary about this the other night.

00:25:34 ◼   ► We were on the couch looking at something online and she had her iPad air.

00:25:38 ◼   ► I was like, that iPad looks enormous.

00:25:41 ◼   ► I'm just so used to the mini,

00:25:42 ◼   ► I really still love this device.

00:25:44 ◼   ► However many months in, it's effectively my only iPad.

00:25:48 ◼   ► - It's still, I love it so much,

00:25:50 ◼   ► but it's like, it feels bittersweet already.

00:25:54 ◼   ► 'Cause I just know that they're not gonna update it

00:25:57 ◼   ► in a year.

00:25:58 ◼   ► Right?

00:26:00 ◼   ► It may, it hurts me.

00:26:02 ◼   ► 'Cause I love it so bad.

00:26:04 ◼   ► But I guess I'm gonna have to see how much do I love it?

00:26:07 ◼   ► right when there's an 11 inch mini LED iPad potentially,

00:26:11 ◼   ► right, this year, how much do I love the mini?

00:26:15 ◼   ► We'll find out, I suppose.

00:26:18 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:26:18 ◼   ► - What's the expression like you either die in iPad Pro

00:26:23 ◼   ► or live long enough to become an iPad mini,

00:26:25 ◼   ► something like that.

00:26:26 ◼   ► - That is what it says.

00:26:27 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:26:30 ◼   ► - Yup, that is, as everyone says,

00:26:37 ◼   ► I'm surprised I didn't think of that often used phrase when I was thinking of it.

00:26:41 ◼   ► I know, that's featured heavily in the movie The Dark Mode Rises.

00:26:45 ◼   ► Yes.

00:26:46 ◼   ► Yes, Steven!

00:26:47 ◼   ► Come on, this is the energy we're bringing.

00:26:51 ◼   ► Come on!

00:26:52 ◼   ► That's right.

00:26:53 ◼   ► All right, Federico, finish up round one.

00:26:57 ◼   ► And in round one...

00:26:59 ◼   ► Oh, poor iPad Mini.

00:27:03 ◼   ► I'm staring at it right now.

00:27:05 ◼   ► But I know little buddy, you're gonna have a crappy year.

00:27:08 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:27:10 ◼   ► I said Apple launches at least one iPad model with a new display tech in 2021.

00:27:17 ◼   ► And there was the context saying "clarify new to the iPad."

00:27:22 ◼   ► So of course, this is a point thank you, because of the beautiful liquid retina XDR display

00:27:29 ◼   ► on the 2021 iPad Pro with the mini LED technology.

00:27:35 ◼   ► Is it called Mini LED?

00:27:36 ◼   ► You didn't need that clarifier at all.

00:27:39 ◼   ► I don't remember why we...

00:27:42 ◼   ► I think because...

00:27:44 ◼   ► What were we expecting? We'd have it up first.

00:27:46 ◼   ► We said, what if the MacBook Pro, for whatever reason, comes out first?

00:27:53 ◼   ► And then the MacBook Pro got delayed, like, according to the rumors a bunch of times.

00:27:57 ◼   ► And so the iPad Pro got it first.

00:27:58 ◼   ► Because the rumors at the time were for both of them.

00:28:02 ◼   ► Like it wasn't like the MacBook Pro rumor came after the iPad, right?

00:28:07 ◼   ► Like there were concurrent rumors of the mini-LED technology coming to multiple devices.

00:28:12 ◼   ► Okay, that makes sense.

00:28:14 ◼   ► And also it would have accounted for OLED, I think.

00:28:18 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

00:28:21 ◼   ► Like it has to, and we say it has to be new to the iPad.

00:28:25 ◼   ► That was the context of it.

00:28:27 ◼   ► And so yeah, iPad Pro with the XDR display, still an amazing display, right?

00:28:32 ◼   ► Again, makes me sad that the iPad Mini doesn't have it.

00:28:36 ◼   ► Well, yeah, we'll see what happens there, but in the meantime, yes, this is fun.

00:28:41 ◼   ► Maybe the iPad Mini will just like get an OLED screen and like middle finger to every other iPad, you know?

00:28:47 ◼   ► I mean, I'm fine with it as long as it gets better.

00:28:51 ◼   ► - OLED is better than Mini LED, right? - You know what happened, Myke? I should...

00:28:55 ◼   ► Yeah, it is. Yeah, I think it is.

00:28:57 ◼   ► You know what happened to me a few days ago?

00:29:01 ◼   ► Just after not having been able to see it,

00:29:06 ◼   ► I saw Jelly scrolling for the first time in my life.

00:29:11 ◼   ► I saw it.

00:29:11 ◼   ► No. Now you're ruined.

00:29:13 ◼   ► But here's the thing. I saw it in a particular app, in a particular context.

00:29:18 ◼   ► I was reading an article.

00:29:19 ◼   ► I think it was the layout of the story with an image on the side and text on another.

00:29:24 ◼   ► I saw it, I could replicate it, and then I stopped seeing it.

00:29:30 ◼   ► Okay.

00:29:31 ◼   ► Like, that was weird.

00:29:33 ◼   ► Like I changed, like I switched to a different, like I switched to Safari and a different

00:29:36 ◼   ► article and I couldn't see it anymore.

00:29:38 ◼   ► Must have just been something about the color.

00:29:40 ◼   ► But I saw it.

00:29:41 ◼   ► That made it.

00:29:42 ◼   ► Because it definitely, I see it more in certain apps or use cases than others, like for sure.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Okay.

00:29:48 ◼   ► So at the end of round one, Myke has no points and Federica and I are tied with one point

00:29:53 ◼   ► I could still win it though with zero points.

00:29:55 ◼   ► Oh yeah, and we got another round and the rickys.

00:29:58 ◼   ► I could still win.

00:29:59 ◼   ► Yeah, you're not out of it.

00:30:02 ◼   ► All right, round two. Myke, you're up.

00:30:04 ◼   ► iOS 15 gives users more home screen customization options on the iPhone.

00:30:08 ◼   ► This is a skin of the teeth point.

00:30:11 ◼   ► Wait, is this a point?

00:30:13 ◼   ► Yeah, you can customize with multiple home screens.

00:30:17 ◼   ► You can just turn them off, turn them on.

00:30:19 ◼   ► That is customization. It's a home screen.

00:30:22 ◼   ► This is, look, we have to be very generous friends here to give this point, but I could argue it for

00:30:30 ◼   ► a couple of minutes if you need me to, but... No, I mean, technically you're getting this point on a

00:30:38 ◼   ► bunch of technicalities, I think, but it still counts. This is one of those, just like, the way

00:30:44 ◼   ► I wrote it down means that I'm lucky. Yes. Because technically you are getting more options,

00:30:53 ◼   ► more customization options. Sure, you're getting them. You can hide, you can rearrange the

00:31:00 ◼   ► pages, you can delete the pages and you can tie them to focus modes. So yeah, technically

00:31:05 ◼   ► you are getting more options. But this is what I meant. That's not what I was thinking

00:31:08 ◼   ► This is what you meant. The thing is, you get the point, but you're not getting the spirit of the

00:31:17 ◼   ► pick. But it still counts. You have it intellectually, but you don't have it

00:31:23 ◼   ► passionately. Round two, my pick, no person. Also true. Also true. No in-person WWDC 2021.

00:31:37 ◼   ► and there isn't gonna be 2022 either so...

00:31:41 ◼   ► or 2023...

00:31:42 ◼   ► that could be a pick later on we'll see

00:31:44 ◼   ► 2024... can it though?

00:31:46 ◼   ► oh you you think they're done for good?

00:31:48 ◼   ► yeah i've been saying this for ages i think it's done

00:31:50 ◼   ► i think it's done too

00:31:51 ◼   ► yeah if you do three years in a row

00:31:55 ◼   ► virtual why would you go back?

00:31:57 ◼   ► then you come back!

00:31:58 ◼   ► because you miss people

00:32:00 ◼   ► but you can still have people just not ever the world

00:32:04 ◼   ► look i think uh okay so here's my thing

00:32:07 ◼   ► Obviously I'm all for, you know, we're living in this situation.

00:32:10 ◼   ► It is what it is, but I still miss, you know, events.

00:32:14 ◼   ► Oh yeah. Me too.

00:32:16 ◼   ► And I'm sure there are people at Apple that do too,

00:32:19 ◼   ► but it is a huge cost and a huge loss of engineering time at an incredibly

00:32:24 ◼   ► important time of the year where you can do it online and include more people.

00:32:29 ◼   ► But it's sad and bold.

00:32:35 ◼   ► But Apple's not our friend. They're just a company.

00:32:37 ◼   ► They're not going to do something because it just because it makes us feel sad.

00:32:40 ◼   ► Otherwise there will be a lot of things that they would have changed by now.

00:32:42 ◼   ► No, that's also true. Like the iPad mini. Yes.

00:32:45 ◼   ► You can insert your thing here. Right. Oh yeah. Cause I got rid of I web.

00:32:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:32:50 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:32:52 ◼   ► All right. Uh, Federico, you're up.

00:32:56 ◼   ► I said Apple launches air tags, accessories for tracking physical objects.

00:33:04 ◼   ► I also said the name is not set in the pic, but also that's the name.

00:33:08 ◼   ► So, that was the name.

00:33:10 ◼   ► So yeah, AirTags, I love them.

00:33:11 ◼   ► I just, I can tell you, they make for excellent Christmas presents.

00:33:17 ◼   ► I got two of them, one for my mom, one for a friend.

00:33:20 ◼   ► I had them custom engraved.

00:33:22 ◼   ► Very nice, very nice gift.

00:33:23 ◼   ► I got an AirTag from Apple.

00:33:25 ◼   ► What did you put on them?

00:33:26 ◼   ► Oh, on my mom, oh just their initials.

00:33:29 ◼   ► On my mom it was her initials and two, and one dog emoji.

00:33:34 ◼   ► And on my friend's initials and a heart emoji.

00:33:40 ◼   ► I think, yeah.

00:33:43 ◼   ► Yeah, it was very nice, very nice.

00:33:45 ◼   ► - The AirTag with the initials

00:33:47 ◼   ► and like one of their little Keering things.

00:33:49 ◼   ► It's classy, it's a classy Keering.

00:33:52 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:33:53 ◼   ► - It is the leather one.

00:33:54 ◼   ► - It's good looking Keering.

00:33:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, we got a cheap plastic one from Amazon

00:33:58 ◼   ► because my father, the apple, wants one.

00:33:59 ◼   ► - Look, I already bought you an air tag,

00:34:01 ◼   ► what do you want from me?

00:34:01 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:34:03 ◼   ► - Exactly, it's like, okay, look, it's a 40 euro gift.

00:34:06 ◼   ► This is okay.

00:34:06 ◼   ► - I engraved it. - You're gonna have to make

00:34:08 ◼   ► the, yeah. - Calm down.

00:34:10 ◼   ► - I'm gonna have to make the plastic

00:34:11 ◼   ► kitchen from Amazon work for you.

00:34:14 ◼   ► - Okay, so the end of round two,

00:34:15 ◼   ► Myke has a total of one point.

00:34:19 ◼   ► I have two points and Federico has two points.

00:34:22 ◼   ► So round two was very kind to all of us.

00:34:24 ◼   ► We all got all of our--

00:34:26 ◼   ► Could I still win?

00:34:27 ◼   ► If, wait, in theory, yeah.

00:34:32 ◼   ► - If you, I can still win?

00:34:35 ◼   ► - You can.

00:34:36 ◼   ► If you got your Ricky and we both lost our Ricky's,

00:34:39 ◼   ► you would win.

00:34:39 ◼   ► - So let's see how that goes.

00:34:41 ◼   ► My Ricky is.

00:34:42 ◼   ► - Tell us what your Ricky is.

00:34:43 ◼   ► - A Mac gets a screen that supports touch

00:34:45 ◼   ► and/or Apple Pencil input.

00:34:48 ◼   ► - Yeah, what would you think in here?

00:34:50 ◼   ► - Hey, it's a Ricky pic, right?

00:34:51 ◼   ► - Oh, it is, and they should totally do it.

00:34:54 ◼   ► I still think it's going to happen at some point,

00:34:57 ◼   ► but I don't think it's gonna happen in 2022 either.

00:35:01 ◼   ► But I think it will happen at some point.

00:35:03 ◼   ► - Especially the Apple Pencil.

00:35:05 ◼   ► Like just make, I've said this for years,

00:35:07 ◼   ► I wrote this in a column like five years ago,

00:35:10 ◼   ► just make the giant trackpad able to see the Apple Pencil.

00:35:15 ◼   ► It's like, you can use your Apple,

00:35:16 ◼   ► you don't even have to do anything with the screen.

00:35:17 ◼   ► Just like, let me draw my trackpad with an Apple Pencil.

00:35:19 ◼   ► It's right there.

00:35:21 ◼   ► Okay, my Ricky pic.

00:35:24 ◼   ► Apple has Apple Silicon versions

00:35:25 ◼   ► of all of its Intel Macs on sale by the end of 2021.

00:35:30 ◼   ► There was some clarification about this

00:35:32 ◼   ► because the point was brought up,

00:35:35 ◼   ► well, what if there's still like an Intel version

00:35:39 ◼   ► of a machine that's also an Apple Silicon?

00:35:40 ◼   ► Like maybe like how the Mac mini line is split right now.

00:35:43 ◼   ► And so we clarified no Intel Macs on sale

00:35:46 ◼   ► without an Apple Silicon counterpart,

00:35:48 ◼   ► but it doesn't matter

00:35:49 ◼   ► because there's still lots of Intel Macs running around.

00:35:52 ◼   ► - And my, I was so close.

00:35:54 ◼   ► - I can't believe you did this to yourself.

00:35:56 ◼   ► - I should have phrased it differently.

00:36:01 ◼   ► My risky pick was Apple releases a new programming app

00:36:05 ◼   ► for iPad that is not Swift playgrounds.

00:36:08 ◼   ► - Now I don't remember, did we make you say

00:36:10 ◼   ► not Swift playgrounds?

00:36:11 ◼   ► - I think we did.

00:36:12 ◼   ► - I think you should just put that in there on your own.

00:36:14 ◼   ► - Anyway, the way that this is phrased,

00:36:16 ◼   ► I don't get the point because the way that it's phrased,

00:36:21 ◼   ► but obviously the spirit of it was you will be able

00:36:23 ◼   ► to write apps on iPad.

00:36:25 ◼   ► And that's exactly the thing you can do now

00:36:28 ◼   ► as of a couple of weeks ago with Swift Playgrounds 4.

00:36:32 ◼   ► But it's not technically a new programming app for iPad.

00:36:36 ◼   ► So I don't get this point.

00:36:38 ◼   ► And it sucks that I don't get this point

00:36:41 ◼   ► because I knew what I meant,

00:36:43 ◼   ► but I cannot even argue for it

00:36:46 ◼   ► because it's written right here.

00:36:48 ◼   ► - Dude, I felt so bad when they were talking about,

00:36:51 ◼   ► oh, we got this new thing coming to the iPad.

00:36:53 ◼   ► Oh, it's this new version of Swift Playgrounds.

00:36:54 ◼   ► I was like, I thought about this Ricky

00:36:56 ◼   ► during that announcement.

00:36:57 ◼   ► I was like, I'm so sorry.

00:36:59 ◼   ► - It sucks, but that's a lesson to be learned

00:37:03 ◼   ► on how you phrase your picks.

00:37:05 ◼   ► - It always comes down to phrasing.

00:37:06 ◼   ► Myke got his only point because of phrasing,

00:37:10 ◼   ► and you missed your Ricky because of phrasing.

00:37:12 ◼   ► It really is the whole game.

00:37:13 ◼   ► This leaves us in a very interesting place because Federico, you and I are tied with one point each.

00:37:21 ◼   ► So we have to do a coin flip.

00:37:24 ◼   ► Oh no!

00:37:26 ◼   ► Wait, what are my Ricky's.co stats? Where's my stats page?

00:37:33 ◼   ► Ricky's...

00:37:33 ◼   ► You want to find out what your...

00:37:36 ◼   ► how you do... well, the two of you have done with coin flips.

00:37:38 ◼   ► - Okay, Federico, you have been victor

00:37:43 ◼   ► one out of four times with a 25% win rate.

00:37:46 ◼   ► I have won three out of 11, that's a 27.3% win rate.

00:37:51 ◼   ► So neither of us are good at this.

00:37:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, but there's no--

00:37:55 ◼   ► - Well, because I'm so good at it, that's one.

00:37:57 ◼   ► - Wait, why is there, this is--

00:37:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, Myke's win rate is 75%.

00:38:00 ◼   ► - Wait, wait, there's a conspiracy against me here.

00:38:05 ◼   ► Why am I the only one without heads and tails data

00:38:08 ◼   ► in the coin flips section.

00:38:10 ◼   ► Stephen has it, Myke has it, I don't.

00:38:12 ◼   ► - 'Cause it's a preference for, right?

00:38:15 ◼   ► You've only done it, oh I guess you've done one of four.

00:38:18 ◼   ► - He's done it four times, yeah.

00:38:19 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, I don't know why that is.

00:38:22 ◼   ► - File a radar, okay.

00:38:23 ◼   ► - Oh, 'cause it's equal apparently Federico.

00:38:25 ◼   ► You've picked, according to the Lexington Discord,

00:38:28 ◼   ► you have picked two heads, two tails of your four coin flips.

00:38:31 ◼   ► So you don't have a preference.

00:38:33 ◼   ► Your preference is equality.

00:38:35 ◼   ► - Well, I mean, that will change this time

00:38:37 ◼   ► because you will tip that one way or the other,

00:38:39 ◼   ► assuming you pick a side and not the edge of the coin.

00:38:41 ◼   ► Which I don't think is possible and dice by Peacock.

00:38:43 ◼   ► - Oh no, are we using, oh no, we're using dice.

00:38:47 ◼   ► - We're using dice by Peacock

00:38:47 ◼   ► and I have it right here, I'm ready.

00:38:49 ◼   ► - Okay, so I, Federico, I will let you choose.

00:38:54 ◼   ► - No, hold on, I'm gonna need some help here.

00:38:56 ◼   ► Hold on. - I need help.

00:38:57 ◼   ► - What does that mean?

00:38:58 ◼   ► - Oh, he's asking Silvio.

00:38:59 ◼   ► Is that technically legal?

00:39:02 ◼   ► - I don't know about that. - Do we need a rule for this?

00:39:04 ◼   ► I don't... that's, um, that's outside collusion.

00:39:08 ◼   ► Outside interference. From a known co-conspirator of James's...

00:39:12 ◼   ► Yeah, you can't do what she says.

00:39:14 ◼   ► I ask...

00:39:14 ◼   ► You have to choose your own.

00:39:16 ◼   ► I ask...

00:39:16 ◼   ► No, no, you have to choose on your own.

00:39:18 ◼   ► Uh-uh, tell us what you want.

00:39:20 ◼   ► You can force... it's not in the rules, you can't force me.

00:39:22 ◼   ► I mean...

00:39:23 ◼   ► I'm gonna follow her advice.

00:39:24 ◼   ► I guess we're never gonna be able to tell him...

00:39:26 ◼   ► We've got to put in the rules if we don't like it, because he could just say...

00:39:29 ◼   ► Okay, hold on, I thought about it.

00:39:31 ◼   ► Yeah, okay, I've made my decision.

00:39:32 ◼   ► Excellent, that's all I wanted to hear.

00:39:34 ◼   ► I believe you.

00:39:35 ◼   ► What is your decision?

00:39:36 ◼   ► Heads.

00:39:37 ◼   ► Steven, what is your decision?

00:39:38 ◼   ► Alright, you ready?

00:39:39 ◼   ► Yep.

00:39:40 ◼   ► It's not heads, it's tails.

00:39:41 ◼   ► Oh, come on!

00:39:42 ◼   ► Okay, so aside from the fact that that was James reading that out, there's a coin, the

00:40:00 ◼   ► coin has changed in dice by pcalc it says first there is this three J letters

00:40:07 ◼   ► on it what is that what does that mean I don't know maybe it's like for just no

00:40:12 ◼   ► that's jump in no and it says I don't know it says jollity japery jesting is

00:40:18 ◼   ► what the the client said that doesn't sound like anything that's worth paying

00:40:22 ◼   ► attention to it sounds like a fraudulent no I mean look we have to trust it

00:40:26 ◼   ► because... We put it in the rules. We put it in the rules. Yeah. Maybe in the future we dethrone

00:40:32 ◼   ► Dice by Peacock. You know, James thinks he has all the power here. He has none of the power.

00:40:36 ◼   ► We choose to use his application. Dice by Connected. That's what we need to make. No,

00:40:41 ◼   ► this is a fake coin. I will not accept the results of this coin.

00:40:50 ◼   ► you stole the rickies from me.

00:40:53 ◼   ► And on January five, you couldn't even wait a day for the full anniversary.

00:41:01 ◼   ► You know, you know, Federico as the new annual chairman. Oh no,

00:41:09 ◼   ► I hate how that I grant you clemency for your future attempted coup.

00:41:16 ◼   ► Wait, did you just pardon him?

00:41:18 ◼   ► I am not conceding that you used a fraudulent coin.

00:41:26 ◼   ► So Steven, this is your first annual.

00:41:29 ◼   ► It is.

00:41:30 ◼   ► Congratulations.

00:41:31 ◼   ► And we all know it.

00:41:33 ◼   ► We all know this is a fraudulent coin.

00:41:34 ◼   ► We all know it.

00:41:36 ◼   ► Come back next year with better picks.

00:41:38 ◼   ► Look at it.

00:41:39 ◼   ► No.

00:41:40 ◼   ► All right.

00:41:41 ◼   ► Oh my God.

00:41:42 ◼   ► We have to deal with the flexies now.

00:41:44 ◼   ► Okay.

00:41:45 ◼   ► Well.

00:41:46 ◼   ► But let's take a break.

00:41:47 ◼   ► Everybody calm down.

00:41:48 ◼   ► and we'll come back and grade our flexies for last year.

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00:43:39 ◼   ► All right, we have some real time follow up from Lex.

00:43:42 ◼   ► Federico has won one of five coin flips. That's a 20% win rate.

00:43:46 ◼   ► He has a preference for heads, which he chose three times and won zero times with.

00:43:49 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:43:52 ◼   ► Sorry Federico.

00:43:53 ◼   ► It happens. I'm upset.

00:43:58 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:43:59 ◼   ► Okay.

00:43:59 ◼   ► A game riddled with anomalies and irregularities and we're gonna have to take a second look at this.

00:44:07 ◼   ► Interesting. I cannot wait to see who your legal counsel is.

00:44:12 ◼   ► I'm really excited to find out who that person will be.

00:44:14 ◼   ► Loser of the flexies must compensate the winner of the flexies by donating to the charity of

00:44:21 ◼   ► the winner's choice. The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong flexi made by the loser.

00:44:28 ◼   ► Each host must make a minimum of five flexi picks. Flexis may be reused as future flexis

00:44:36 ◼   ► or regular picks, the winner is determined by the ratio of correct to incorrect flexis

00:44:41 ◼   ► and the money must be donated on air.

00:44:49 ◼   ► A tie in either the regular picks or the flexis is to be broken by coin toss.

00:44:54 ◼   ► As Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping a coin, dice by a p-calc in relay FM mode

00:44:59 ◼   ► is the official way to break a tie.

00:45:03 ◼   ► We once again need a preamble to explain what these things are.

00:45:08 ◼   ► So maybe we work on that for next time.

00:45:10 ◼   ► Do y'all agree?

00:45:12 ◼   ► Need a preamble?

00:45:14 ◼   ► Yes.

00:45:15 ◼   ► I was waiting, you said a few things, I was waiting for you to say a few things.

00:45:17 ◼   ► That's the first one.

00:45:19 ◼   ► Second one is, we all have our own names for when we win the flexies.

00:45:23 ◼   ► Oh, I forgot about that.

00:45:25 ◼   ► We came up with these last time, so Federico was Prince Flexi, Myke, you were the Duke

00:45:30 ◼   ► of Flexington.

00:45:32 ◼   ► mine was Senator Flexi.

00:45:34 ◼   ► I forgot that was Senator Flexi.

00:45:38 ◼   ► Senator Flexi?

00:45:39 ◼   ► He can't be royal.

00:45:40 ◼   ► He can't be.

00:45:41 ◼   ► There's no royal in America.

00:45:42 ◼   ► Is there royalty in Italy?

00:45:45 ◼   ► Surely you've had kings and queens in your country's history.

00:45:48 ◼   ► Used to.

00:45:49 ◼   ► Used to be.

00:45:50 ◼   ► Used to be.

00:45:51 ◼   ► Used to.

00:45:52 ◼   ► Well, you chose Prince Flexi for yourself, so.

00:45:53 ◼   ► Well, I did.

00:45:54 ◼   ► I did.

00:45:55 ◼   ► I didn't know we were following based on each other's country.

00:45:58 ◼   ► Well, I would assume Stephen chose Senator Flexi.

00:46:00 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:46:01 ◼   ► Yeah, I think.

00:46:02 ◼   ► I don't know how I feel about the fact that you just decided to go senator you were given

00:46:06 ◼   ► Whatever you could have wanted and you went with Senate. Well Prince isn't King neither is Duke

00:46:12 ◼   ► We're all like second rung down leaders here. Yeah, that's true

00:46:16 ◼   ► So so that's why you didn't pick. Yeah, because you didn't pick King

00:46:20 ◼   ► But what about?

00:46:30 ◼   ► I like I like Senator Flexi and then the other thing we need to just continue with what about what about chief of

00:46:38 ◼   ► What like what is what is what about because you got

00:46:45 ◼   ► General oh, that's good attorney general was really good attorney general flexi

00:46:57 ◼   ► And then the other thing is the bit about...

00:47:01 ◼   ► - AG flex.

00:47:02 ◼   ► - About ties being broken,

00:47:04 ◼   ► I think needs to be at the end

00:47:05 ◼   ► of the first part of the rules.

00:47:07 ◼   ► It needs to be at the end of the regular rules,

00:47:09 ◼   ► not the flexy rules,

00:47:10 ◼   ► because it makes more sense there, I think.

00:47:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, but it's a reminder, right?

00:47:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, but by the time, like that happened today, right?

00:47:17 ◼   ► We did a coin toss like 10 minutes ago,

00:47:20 ◼   ► but we just read the rule about it now.

00:47:21 ◼   ► - You're assuming that we're gonna remember?

00:47:23 ◼   ► Like everyone's gonna remember.

00:47:25 ◼   ► That's the assumption we're making?

00:47:26 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:47:27 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:47:28 ◼   ► - So I feel like it should just be

00:47:29 ◼   ► at the end of the regular rules.

00:47:33 ◼   ► - It's funny to me that you have now taken the stance

00:47:36 ◼   ► that we should, for some reason, condense these rules, right?

00:47:39 ◼   ► - I mean, I think we probably should, but.

00:47:41 ◼   ► - Well, I think history would suggest

00:47:43 ◼   ► that we do not feel that way, you know?

00:47:46 ◼   ► - Okay, so that's the flexis.

00:47:48 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:47:49 ◼   ► - Any other issues?

00:47:50 ◼   ► - Nope.

00:47:51 ◼   ► - Okay, all right.

00:47:54 ◼   ► - So you are Attorney General Flexi?

00:47:56 ◼   ► If I win.

00:47:57 ◼   ► Okay, I love it.

00:47:58 ◼   ► I really like AG Flexi.

00:48:00 ◼   ► You know, like, that sounds like a character.

00:48:03 ◼   ► It does.

00:48:04 ◼   ► It really does.

00:48:05 ◼   ► It's very nice.

00:48:06 ◼   ► Alright, Myke, you're up.

00:48:08 ◼   ► Another variant of over-ear headphones will be released.

00:48:11 ◼   ► I mean...

00:48:13 ◼   ► As I read it, I was like, well, that's correct.

00:48:15 ◼   ► Other companies did make them.

00:48:17 ◼   ► Somebody did it.

00:48:23 ◼   ► But no.

00:48:24 ◼   ► it. Apple releases a weather API. They should. Not only did they not do this, they updated

00:48:33 ◼   ► Dark Sky. It's still kicking. That was fun. They delayed the shutdown. That's probably

00:48:42 ◼   ► because they haven't got a weather API ready. Yeah, work from home, you know, got them.

00:48:47 ◼   ► They couldn't go outside to see what the weather was like, so they had to delay the API. Or,

00:48:52 ◼   ► are all in California the API just reports back 75 and sunny and there's

00:48:56 ◼   ► not actually an API it's like a text file.

00:48:58 ◼   ► New Apple TV released. Love my new Apple TV. So great.

00:49:03 ◼   ► iPad multitasking is overhauled again. A new iMac has adjustability that's

00:49:11 ◼   ► reminiscent of the Pro Display XDR stand. The thing about this is, well you didn't

00:49:16 ◼   ► get it, but it looks like the Pro Display XDR stand. Like the

00:49:20 ◼   ► foot is styled the same way. Yeah. But no, very little adjustability. I still hope

00:49:27 ◼   ► that the iMac Pro has this feature. I hope it does. It'd be great.

00:49:33 ◼   ► Because like stacking your iMac on a bunch of books just doesn't feel good.

00:49:36 ◼   ► That's another thing I'll say, Apple, you can try me on this one. If you

00:49:41 ◼   ► had a like an option to add a $1,000 stand to an iMac Pro that did this, I

00:49:49 ◼   ► I would probably get it.

00:49:50 ◼   ► Because then I don't have to get another thing anyway.

00:49:53 ◼   ► Right, so I'm always gonna spend more money

00:49:55 ◼   ► if I don't get an adjustable stand

00:49:57 ◼   ► because I then need to adjust the monitor.

00:49:59 ◼   ► So I would, if I'm gonna be already in for many pounds

00:50:04 ◼   ► with this thing, I would pay extra for adjustability.

00:50:08 ◼   ► Maybe not a thousand, but I wouldn't be happy,

00:50:11 ◼   ► but I do want it.

00:50:12 ◼   ► - My iMac, when I ran an iMac,

00:50:14 ◼   ► it sat on a original airport base station,

00:50:19 ◼   ► and, or not an original, but like the square one,

00:50:21 ◼   ► and then an original Apple TV,

00:50:23 ◼   ► 'cause they were like the same size,

00:50:24 ◼   ► and it just fit perfectly under the iMac.

00:50:26 ◼   ► - So what you're saying is you've been used

00:50:27 ◼   ► to very expensive stands for a while.

00:50:29 ◼   ► - Yes, yes. - Is what you're saying.

00:50:32 ◼   ► - Uh-huh.

00:50:33 ◼   ► So you got two of your five.

00:50:35 ◼   ► That's pretty good, I think.

00:50:36 ◼   ► - That is actually pretty good.

00:50:38 ◼   ► I'm pretty happy with that.

00:50:39 ◼   ► - Federico, you're up.

00:50:41 ◼   ► So I said Apple releases its own game controller.

00:50:45 ◼   ► - This is never gonna happen.

00:50:46 ◼   ► I cannot believe you picked that.

00:50:48 ◼   ► They're never gonna do this, right?

00:50:51 ◼   ► - Okay, there's no need to.

00:50:53 ◼   ► - Unless, unless, technically,

00:50:57 ◼   ► you count like the thing for the headset

00:51:01 ◼   ► as a game controller, you know?

00:51:04 ◼   ► - Never say never, exactly.

00:51:05 ◼   ► Like there may be an Apple game controller.

00:51:09 ◼   ► It's a thing that you use to control a game.

00:51:11 ◼   ► - Well, they did release a new Siri remote.

00:51:16 ◼   ► - Just, I knew you were gonna say this,

00:51:18 ◼   ► they've removed functionality

00:51:20 ◼   ► from its game controlling abilities,

00:51:22 ◼   ► so this does not count Federico.

00:51:25 ◼   ► They, not only, it's not only a Siri TV remote,

00:51:29 ◼   ► it now does less to control games

00:51:31 ◼   ► than the one that came before it.

00:51:32 ◼   ► - Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:51:35 ◼   ► Moving on.

00:51:38 ◼   ► iOS gets a native feature to change icons

00:51:41 ◼   ► for any app you want.

00:51:43 ◼   ► - Surely iOS 15 got this one, right?

00:51:46 ◼   ► Surely.

00:51:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, it did not.

00:51:49 ◼   ► - Is there a bigger swing and a miss

00:51:52 ◼   ► than all the cool customization stuff

00:51:54 ◼   ► that they added in 14 and it blew up

00:51:58 ◼   ► and then they just haven't touched a sense.

00:52:00 ◼   ► - They just did nothing.

00:52:01 ◼   ► - But we'll talk about this more.

00:52:06 ◼   ► Moving on, Apple releases a bigger iPad Pro.

00:52:09 ◼   ► This also did not happen.

00:52:10 ◼   ► I still think they should do it.

00:52:12 ◼   ► Like I still think they should do like a 15 inch

00:52:14 ◼   ► or something or 16 inch iPad Pro.

00:52:16 ◼   ► That thing would be incredible.

00:52:19 ◼   ► It would be perfect for the current

00:52:22 ◼   ► like version of multitasking.

00:52:23 ◼   ► Like imagine like even better split view,

00:52:25 ◼   ► even better slide over.

00:52:27 ◼   ► It would be incredible with the Apple Pencil.

00:52:30 ◼   ► They could charge a lot of money for it.

00:52:32 ◼   ► They could pitch it to artists.

00:52:34 ◼   ► They could pitch it to writers.

00:52:36 ◼   ► I would love that device, like a desktop optimized iPad Pro,

00:52:41 ◼   ► that would look incredible.

00:52:44 ◼   ► It would make for an excellent sidecar display

00:52:47 ◼   ► if you're into that sort of thing.

00:52:50 ◼   ► I still want it, but it did not come true.

00:52:52 ◼   ► - Maybe that's the external display.

00:52:55 ◼   ► - At least a new...

00:52:56 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:52:58 ◼   ► Maybe that's, maybe it's the bigger iPad Pro.

00:53:01 ◼   ► At least a new iPhone model

00:53:04 ◼   ► as both Face ID and Touch ID.

00:53:07 ◼   ► - I don't wanna get into this today

00:53:08 ◼   ► 'cause it's like a whole thing,

00:53:10 ◼   ► but I have not been wearing my Apple Watch for a while

00:53:12 ◼   ► and boy, is it terrible just having a Face ID iPhone.

00:53:17 ◼   ► - It's one of the reasons to wear one every day.

00:53:20 ◼   ► - Honestly, it may be one of the best reasons

00:53:22 ◼   ► to get an Apple Watch in this time.

00:53:24 ◼   ► - Conspiracy, this is why they haven't added Touch ID back.

00:53:26 ◼   ► - I thought you were gonna go in a real different mode there

00:53:29 ◼   ► so I'm pleased.

00:53:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, me too, yeah, me too.

00:53:32 ◼   ► - You don't need a mask.

00:53:33 ◼   ► the man keeping you down no i i thought you were gonna say that you were gonna go right back to the

00:53:38 ◼   ► beginning on that one where did it come from i don't know bad bad mike you said it no i didn't

00:53:51 ◼   ► i didn't even think it rico heard it i heard it mike and i we think alike we think like it's like

00:53:57 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean...

00:53:59 ◼   ► Stranger things are not real, have they?

00:54:04 ◼   ► All right, the last one is really the heartbreaker.

00:54:06 ◼   ► Isn't it convenient that they brought the oxygen sensor to the Apple Watch straight away?

00:54:11 ◼   ► Convenient, right?

00:54:12 ◼   ► Well, I mean, you know, Foxconn made the Apple Watch.

00:54:16 ◼   ► And other things.

00:54:19 ◼   ► Welcome to connect to the show about correlation and the pandemic.

00:54:24 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:54:28 ◼   ► All right, Federico, your last Flexi Man.

00:54:31 ◼   ► Just, mmm.

00:54:32 ◼   ► Finally, I said Widget Kit gains support for new sizes.

00:54:39 ◼   ► Thumbs up.

00:54:40 ◼   ► Okay. Yeah, yeah. And...

00:54:43 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:54:48 ◼   ► More interactivity.

00:54:49 ◼   ► Thumbs down.

00:54:51 ◼   ► I would like to introduce to my friend and or yeah

00:54:54 ◼   ► I'm losing this peak on a

00:54:59 ◼   ► So sad and bullying operators are introduced we all lose

00:55:05 ◼   ► this and your

00:55:09 ◼   ► Swift playgrounds pick man. You just got owned by like the tiniest details this year by the English language

00:55:17 ◼   ► Really, I got owned by the...

00:55:19 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:55:20 ◼   ► So obviously we got the new size,

00:55:22 ◼   ► the new Excel size on iPad,

00:55:24 ◼   ► but the same interactivity,

00:55:27 ◼   ► which is basically close to zero,

00:55:30 ◼   ► as of iOS 14.

00:55:33 ◼   ► So yeah, as you mentioned before,

00:55:36 ◼   ► really surprising that the most popular feature of iOS 14

00:55:40 ◼   ► was basically untouched in 15.

00:55:43 ◼   ► - And it's so sad.

00:55:46 ◼   ► It's very sad, which also means I got zero flexes right.

00:55:51 ◼   ► - So Myke has two, you have zero.

00:55:54 ◼   ► Let's see how I do.

00:55:56 ◼   ► Apple puts a cheaper display on sale

00:55:58 ◼   ► as a sibling to the XDR.

00:55:59 ◼   ► There will be a chip named M1, followed by a letter.

00:56:04 ◼   ► Nope, they went with Pro and Max,

00:56:07 ◼   ► because of course they chose

00:56:09 ◼   ► the most confusing names possible.

00:56:12 ◼   ► - That's way better than X.

00:56:13 ◼   ► - It is until you have to say a Mac with M1 Max.

00:56:17 ◼   ► Like it's just--

00:56:18 ◼   ► - No, you just say M1 Pro Max chip.

00:56:19 ◼   ► That's it, done.

00:56:21 ◼   ► Easy peasy.

00:56:22 ◼   ► - M1 MP, M1 PX, M1 MXPX.

00:56:26 ◼   ► Okay, we see the iPhone 12S this year, not the 13.

00:56:31 ◼   ► - You were so convinced.

00:56:35 ◼   ► What, yeah.

00:56:36 ◼   ► - Look, it's an S phone.

00:56:37 ◼   ► We all know it's an S phone.

00:56:39 ◼   ► - That time, yes, but that time is over.

00:56:42 ◼   ► Technically they're all s phones. I don't know technically we're on the iPhone 4.

00:56:47 ◼   ► iPhone 4.

00:56:53 ◼   ► Does it hiss? I could be all over that. Which one hissed? Yeah, the 7.

00:56:59 ◼   ► The 7. Still the most popular thing on my YouTube channel. How does that make you feel?

00:57:07 ◼   ► Not great about the rest of my work in my entire career.

00:57:11 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:57:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's also just the most popular thing

00:57:14 ◼   ► you've ever done.

00:57:15 ◼   ► - Ever done, ever, yeah.

00:57:16 ◼   ► Single most viewed piece of content I've ever made.

00:57:20 ◼   ► Okay.

00:57:21 ◼   ► - Enjoyed piece of content.

00:57:22 ◼   ► - Apple ships an AR, VR, and/or MR dedicated device.

00:57:27 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:57:29 ◼   ► - And/or.

00:57:29 ◼   ► - See, if you had done and/or,

00:57:31 ◼   ► you would have a flexi right now, son.

00:57:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, but you used and/or, you don't have one, do you?

00:57:36 ◼   ► It isn't the be all and end all, it's not the silver bullet.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Yeah, well the rest of my pick was bad, but...

00:57:41 ◼   ► - His was good. - Ships! Ships!

00:57:43 ◼   ► My god, Steven, what were you on?

00:57:46 ◼   ► I'm gonna be stealing the "and or" approach.

00:57:52 ◼   ► The "and or" approach is the right approach.

00:57:54 ◼   ► I just, live in the document, saw "and or" added to a later thing.

00:57:59 ◼   ► I just, the cursor was moving and I saw "slash or" get added.

00:58:04 ◼   ► Yeah, well, we haven't talked about this yet.

00:58:06 ◼   ► Yeah, it's not set yet.

00:58:08 ◼   ► My next flexi, no Mac gets cellular data option.

00:58:11 ◼   ► At this point, I kind of think it's never going to happen.

00:58:14 ◼   ► Why would you...

00:58:15 ◼   ► My thought was when we saw the new MacBook Pros,

00:58:19 ◼   ► like this was the chance to do it and they didn't do it.

00:58:22 ◼   ► So I don't think we're ever going to get this, which is a bummer.

00:58:25 ◼   ► I think I think Mac should have 5G connectivity.

00:58:28 ◼   ► Your 5G is the best thing.

00:58:30 ◼   ► It is.

00:58:30 ◼   ► You want 5G.

00:58:32 ◼   ► You know the thing about 5G?

00:58:34 ◼   ► Okay, so lastly, the iPod touch is canceled.

00:58:39 ◼   ► - What did it do?

00:58:40 ◼   ► - It did nothing, it's just still here.

00:58:42 ◼   ► Oh, I see.

00:58:43 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:58:45 ◼   ► - This pick is still, the way that you phrased this,

00:58:51 ◼   ► still so.

00:58:52 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:58:55 ◼   ► - Myke, you got two out of five correct.

00:58:58 ◼   ► Federico got zero out of five correct,

00:59:00 ◼   ► and I got one out of six correct.

00:59:02 ◼   ► So-- - Oh, hang on.

00:59:04 ◼   ► - Federico is the loser, I'm sorry buddy,

00:59:08 ◼   ► and you will be donating to Myke's charity of choice.

00:59:13 ◼   ► And your fee is $25 per wrong flexi.

00:59:19 ◼   ► - And Myke is the Duke of Flexington.

00:59:22 ◼   ► - And he is the Duke of Flexington.

00:59:24 ◼   ► - Hello, governor.

00:59:26 ◼   ► - That will be $125 donation.

00:59:29 ◼   ► - Woo!

00:59:30 ◼   ► - Oh boy, okay.

00:59:32 ◼   ► All right.

00:59:34 ◼   ► - Settle in, buddy.

00:59:35 ◼   ► - Right, five times 25.

00:59:37 ◼   ► - Wow.

00:59:38 ◼   ► - All right.

00:59:40 ◼   ► - That's not the biggest though, right?

00:59:42 ◼   ► 'Cause I think there was one year where someone,

00:59:44 ◼   ► I think Federico picked like seven and got them all wrong.

00:59:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is not the biggest, but it's a doozy.

00:59:49 ◼   ► - It's a big one.

00:59:51 ◼   ► - So do you have one in mind already, Myke,

00:59:53 ◼   ► or do you need a minute?

00:59:55 ◼   ► - So I had forgotten about the charity aspect

00:59:59 ◼   ► until you read it in the rules.

01:00:00 ◼   ► So thank you for reading the rules.

01:00:01 ◼   ► - You're welcome.

01:00:02 ◼   ► - 'Cause I usually prepare, however,

01:00:04 ◼   ► a charity immediately came to mind.

01:00:06 ◼   ► This charity is called Shelter.

01:00:08 ◼   ► You can find them at shelter.org.uk.

01:00:11 ◼   ► Shelter help people with housing issues

01:00:13 ◼   ► or suffering homelessness.

01:00:14 ◼   ► That's their whole thing.

01:00:16 ◼   ► And so Federico, I would like you to donate $125 to Shelter.

01:00:21 ◼   ► - Okay, please select your location,

01:00:23 ◼   ► England, Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland.

01:00:26 ◼   ► - They're all the same.

01:00:27 ◼   ► Well, I live in England, so I will say England.

01:00:30 ◼   ► I like to, something that I try and do is to find UK

01:00:35 ◼   ► or England-based charities.

01:00:37 ◼   ► I think that makes sense.

01:00:38 ◼   ► - What's the...

01:00:40 ◼   ► - The conversion?

01:00:41 ◼   ► - Pound equivalent, yeah.

01:00:43 ◼   ► - What is $125 in pounds?

01:00:45 ◼   ► - How much?

01:00:47 ◼   ► - 92 pounds and 15 pence.

01:00:49 ◼   ► - Oh, let's say 95, let's say 100.

01:00:52 ◼   ► - Whoa, hello.

01:00:54 ◼   ► Look at this guy.

01:00:55 ◼   ► - That's fine.

01:00:56 ◼   ► thank you the charity will appreciate it. I can choose a title can I choose? So you have

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01:03:13 ◼   ► all of Relay FM. I had this feeling last year but I couldn't put my finger on it

01:03:18 ◼   ► it and I think because this year as the first time I've ever owned the annual

01:03:24 ◼   ► title the rules around how we pick the annual order is it's really like the

01:03:30 ◼   ► year two years ago right because if we were basing the 22 order on the 21

01:03:36 ◼   ► winners I would go first but we don't know that when we make the picks like

01:03:40 ◼   ► when we in the document. The way I've always felt it is if you decide you want to take

01:03:44 ◼   ► one of mine or Federico's picks you can just take it maybe and we just have to

01:03:49 ◼   ► deal with it but there's no way I don't feel that way this time I feel like we

01:03:52 ◼   ► all have there's no way of handling it other than that yeah so maybe it's

01:03:56 ◼   ► something else we can think about the the order to go first like but there's

01:04:00 ◼   ► there's no way around it we just all make our picks up because what else we

01:04:03 ◼   ► gonna do come up with them on the spot no we're professionals yeah but if you

01:04:06 ◼   ► would decided that you liked mine or Federico's Ricky put your own you just

01:04:10 ◼   ► take it and then I have to quickly come up with something else let us commence

01:04:14 ◼   ► with round one. My first pick. WWDC 2022 will be virtual.

01:04:21 ◼   ► Now I would like to raise the point of order on this pick.

01:04:25 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

01:04:26 ◼   ► Is this technically reusing?

01:04:28 ◼   ► I don't think it is. So I thought about this for a long time actually. And here's my case,

01:04:33 ◼   ► and it's up to y'all of course. My case is, in this COVID time, every year is so different.

01:04:42 ◼   ► But I could apply that to literally any pick.

01:04:46 ◼   ► No, no, because this is a pick that's specifically tied to COVID, right?

01:04:50 ◼   ► If COVID wasn't a thing, the WBC pick wouldn't even be on the table.

01:04:55 ◼   ► They're separate events, they're separate years, I feel like I'm not reusing a pick.

01:04:59 ◼   ► Well, but I feel like, let's say COVID goes away, you could still make the pick for next

01:05:05 ◼   ► time.

01:05:06 ◼   ► You could still make the pick, you could always make the pick.

01:05:09 ◼   ► But the pick doesn't make any sense outside of the context in which we live.

01:05:13 ◼   ► And look, Zach Knox says "legally fine" and the spirit of the rules absolutely not.

01:05:17 ◼   ► I'm fine with being legally okay.

01:05:19 ◼   ► No, because then the reusing of the picks doesn't ever work under this.

01:05:24 ◼   ► Because I could just rearrange the words of the pick.

01:05:27 ◼   ► Matt says it well.

01:05:28 ◼   ► "WW21 is distinct from 22.

01:05:31 ◼   ► This is different than picking "the xMac we back in 2021" and then just changing the year."

01:05:36 ◼   ► They're different things.

01:05:37 ◼   ► Alright.

01:05:38 ◼   ► saying no okay but I felt like I had to raise it that's fine because it it is

01:05:45 ◼   ► not just someone reuse this pick you have it's like this is just your pick

01:05:52 ◼   ► every year it is kind of the same pick though it is the same it's not the same

01:05:58 ◼   ► different event why because you're just changing the number he's just changing

01:06:03 ◼   ► the year we didn't it's it's a and we didn't have on micron last year we got

01:06:07 ◼   ► that now, which is really what... Delta.

01:06:09 ◼   ► Look, that doesn't...

01:06:10 ◼   ► Like the context of the world doesn't matter.

01:06:13 ◼   ► What the pick says is what matters.

01:06:14 ◼   ► But the pick is informed by the context of the world.

01:06:17 ◼   ► I mean, if y'all vote...

01:06:21 ◼   ► If you guys both say I should change it,

01:06:23 ◼   ► then I'll pick something else.

01:06:24 ◼   ► But I feel like it's an okay pick.

01:06:28 ◼   ► I'm just saying,

01:06:29 ◼   ► because we're also setting a precedent here.

01:06:31 ◼   ► So if you put them next to each other,

01:06:33 ◼   ► knowing person WWDC 2021,

01:06:35 ◼   ► then you scroll.

01:06:36 ◼   ► WWDC 2022 will be virtual.

01:06:39 ◼   ► Like how many different ways you can

01:06:41 ◼   ► phrase this so that you keep having

01:06:43 ◼   ► this pick?

01:06:44 ◼   ► Hopefully the pandemic ends and we

01:06:45 ◼   ► don't have to find out.

01:06:46 ◼   ► Maybe I start rhyming it, you know?

01:06:48 ◼   ► So here's what I'll say.

01:06:49 ◼   ► I'm fine with it as long as we're

01:06:51 ◼   ► all OK with the potential precedent

01:06:54 ◼   ► that this sets.

01:06:55 ◼   ► This is like one of those Supreme

01:06:56 ◼   ► Court decision type things, right?

01:06:58 ◼   ► We're like, by picking this,

01:07:01 ◼   ► right, by allowing you to have that

01:07:03 ◼   ► is fine, right?

01:07:05 ◼   ► But then we all have to be okay with the potential ramifications of that.

01:07:09 ◼   ► That like numerical incrementation. So for example,

01:07:14 ◼   ► like I could, every year could be like iPhone 14,

01:07:19 ◼   ► iPhone 15, iPhone 6, I exist numerical changes, right?

01:07:23 ◼   ► But that's, that's where I think the distinction is that I'm,

01:07:26 ◼   ► what I'm saying is WBCs aren't the same as that because they're individual

01:07:31 ◼   ► events.

01:07:32 ◼   ► But they happen every year, but they happen every year.

01:07:34 ◼   ► But they're not a series of products on a calendar.

01:07:38 ◼   ► But it's an event on the calendar.

01:07:40 ◼   ► I mean, it sounds like you two want me to change it.

01:07:41 ◼   ► If that's what you want me to do, just say it.

01:07:43 ◼   ► I said, all I'm saying is, if we're cool with this,

01:07:47 ◼   ► we have to be comfortable with the precedent

01:07:50 ◼   ► that it could set.

01:07:51 ◼   ► Which, I mean, I like difficult presidents

01:07:55 ◼   ► 'cause it can do fun things.

01:07:56 ◼   ► Here, all right, so.

01:08:00 ◼   ► I mean, we can.

01:08:02 ◼   ► The precedent does give me a little pause because I know the two of you and while I mean it for good, you mean it for bad.

01:08:09 ◼   ► Yes, I will 100% use it for bad.

01:08:12 ◼   ► Because also it's your precedent, right?

01:08:16 ◼   ► I tell you what, I will promote one of my flexies. I had an extra.

01:08:19 ◼   ► Okay.

01:08:20 ◼   ► Just in case.

01:08:21 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

01:08:21 ◼   ► Now I promote one of my flexies up to round one.

01:08:24 ◼   ► Eric has perfectly put this in the Discord. Myke wants this precedent.

01:08:28 ◼   ► Yeah, you know what? I don't want you to have it, Myke.

01:08:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:08:31 ◼   ► So I'm withholding from you.

01:08:35 ◼   ► Okay, so my round one pick.

01:08:36 ◼   ► - I also like the precedent that this sets too though,

01:08:39 ◼   ► right, it's in the negative.

01:08:41 ◼   ► Like we can't just do that.

01:08:42 ◼   ► (laughs)

01:08:43 ◼   ► And that said, Myke, now you pick it.

01:08:45 ◼   ► (laughs)

01:08:47 ◼   ► I'm not gonna pick it.

01:08:50 ◼   ► - My undisputed round one pick that has always been this,

01:08:55 ◼   ► the 11 inch iPad Pro gets a mini LED display.

01:08:58 ◼   ► - That's a good pick.

01:08:59 ◼   ► - It came on the 12 inch, it's on the laptops,

01:09:01 ◼   ► Put it on the little one.

01:09:03 ◼   ► That iPad Pro would be sick.

01:09:05 ◼   ► Can we just agree on that real quick?

01:09:06 ◼   ► Like that would be awesome. - I don't want to think

01:09:07 ◼   ► about how good it will be.

01:09:08 ◼   ► We can't talk about it.

01:09:10 ◼   ► - It will kill the iPad Mini in our hearts.

01:09:12 ◼   ► All right, Federico, you're up.

01:09:15 ◼   ► - So my first pick is at least one AirPods model

01:09:19 ◼   ► will support lossless music playback by the end of 2022.

01:09:24 ◼   ► So basically here I am combining a couple of things.

01:09:30 ◼   ► First, we always said how odd it was that Apple had launched the AirPods Max, for example,

01:09:37 ◼   ► and then they rolled out a few months later, lost less playback support in Apple Music,

01:09:43 ◼   ► and the AirPods Max, the expensive headphones, did not actually support it.

01:09:48 ◼   ► Then we also saw how the...

01:09:56 ◼   ► Recently there was an interview with one of the VPs of, what's it called?

01:10:01 ◼   ► Not audio, audio? Is it audio?

01:10:02 ◼   ► Something like that, yeah.

01:10:04 ◼   ► They had an interview on WhatHiFi, where they basically said,

01:10:08 ◼   ► "Yeah, Bluetooth isn't giving us enough bandwidth to do the things we want to do with AirPods and audio."

01:10:14 ◼   ► And there was a recent MinchiCo report, I believe, saying that future versions of AirPods Pro 2

01:10:21 ◼   ► will support, AirPods Pro 2 will support

01:10:25 ◼   ► lossless music playback.

01:10:26 ◼   ► So what I think is happening here,

01:10:28 ◼   ► we're starting to get details

01:10:30 ◼   ► on the next generation AirPods Pro.

01:10:33 ◼   ► Apple is going to do something in terms of

01:10:36 ◼   ► the technology being used to go beyond Bluetooth,

01:10:40 ◼   ► whether it's like a custom flavor of Bluetooth

01:10:44 ◼   ► with some additional, like for example,

01:10:47 ◼   ► I saw some theories on Twitter,

01:10:49 ◼   ► Like what if the case was also like some kind of radio transmitter that are like a version

01:10:54 ◼   ► of Wi-Fi built into the case or something like that.

01:10:59 ◼   ► So I think Apple wants to go beyond the limitations of Bluetooth.

01:11:01 ◼   ► I think they want to support lossless playback in AirPods.

01:11:05 ◼   ► And I think we're going to see that in 2022, moving beyond this sort of weird state where

01:11:11 ◼   ► we're in right now where Apple is selling expensive AirPods, but they do not support

01:11:17 ◼   ► lossless playback.

01:11:18 ◼   ► Now, I also want to mention how, and this is outside of the context of the pick, if

01:11:24 ◼   ► they're gonna do this, I think lossless support will not be, like, the key feature of this.

01:11:32 ◼   ► Just like when we were talking a few months ago about, oh, Apple is gonna add lossless

01:11:37 ◼   ► playback in Apple Music, but they're also gonna do spatial audio.

01:11:41 ◼   ► And we said, they're gonna do both features, but actually, the one feature they're gonna

01:11:46 ◼   ► push a lot for consumers will be spatial audio, because so few people will care about lossless.

01:11:52 ◼   ► And here I think we're seeing the same thing. Like, Apple will support lossless, but it

01:11:56 ◼   ► will not be the main selling point.

01:11:59 ◼   ► Oh, it will be like a side effect of this other thing that they're doing.

01:12:03 ◼   ► A side effect of it. Like, they will pitch it as improved range, or improved sound quality,

01:12:10 ◼   ► or extended battery life.

01:12:11 ◼   ► Range is a good one. I like that as a thing.

01:12:15 ◼   ► I think the main consumer-facing feature would be another thing.

01:12:21 ◼   ► They would feature it as range or better bass frequencies.

01:12:27 ◼   ► They can sell it however they want.

01:12:29 ◼   ► But technically, it'll also support...

01:12:31 ◼   ► Can I ask you a question?

01:12:34 ◼   ► Do you think that they will still be Bluetooth at that point?

01:12:37 ◼   ► Or do you think that they just won't have Bluetooth in AirPods anymore?

01:12:41 ◼   ► It'll be some other thing.

01:12:42 ◼   ► I don't think Apple wants to use Bluetooth anymore.

01:12:44 ◼   ► I think they will have Bluetooth for Android compatibility or other devices.

01:12:51 ◼   ► I think on Apple platforms they want to use Wi-Fi.

01:12:55 ◼   ► And I will add, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bigger story...

01:13:00 ◼   ► Again, this is not the pick, just speculation.

01:13:02 ◼   ► I wouldn't be surprised if there's an even bigger story here, which is AirPlay 3 with

01:13:08 ◼   ► lossless playback support.

01:13:10 ◼   ► Okay.

01:13:11 ◼   ► it's like technically the AirPods are using AirPlay now or whatever, right?

01:13:19 ◼   ► I think that's, I mean technically they're, I mean we don't know exactly like it, they're

01:13:25 ◼   ► using Bluetooth, right? I think the story will be AirPods Pro support AirPlay 3, which

01:13:32 ◼   ► is Wi-Fi and lossless music playback.

01:13:36 ◼   ► Apple releases a new MacBook Air that comes with some color options not previously available

01:13:42 ◼   ► in this product line.

01:13:45 ◼   ► Colorful MacBook Air would be awesome and even though I love my MacBook Pro and don't

01:13:50 ◼   ► want a MacBook Air, it would be very hard to say no to like a beautiful orange laptop.

01:13:55 ◼   ► Yep, that is going to be a tempting computer for everybody.

01:13:59 ◼   ► They're going to be really fun and going to be really cool.

01:14:03 ◼   ► because it's definitely gonna happen one point to me well let's not get ahead of

01:14:10 ◼   ► ourselves round two I realized I've created the same problem for myself here

01:14:17 ◼   ► but I will read it and then what to do with it by December 31st 2022 no Intel

01:14:25 ◼   ► max where we remain on sale as new machines okay that's a repeat clearly I

01:14:31 ◼   ► I think. You're not very good at this. No, I'm not.

01:14:35 ◼   ► Have you read the rules? I mean, I do. You read the rules every time.

01:14:39 ◼   ► Alright, so I'm gonna rob another Flexi. What Flexis have you got to steal from?

01:14:44 ◼   ► Well, I'm gonna be short one now, but I've got time.

01:14:46 ◼   ► And I have an Apple Notes thing where I have some other things written down.

01:14:49 ◼   ► Mm-hmm. What was the pick? Can you read it again?

01:14:52 ◼   ► By December 31st, 2022, no Intel Macs will remain on sale as new machines.

01:14:59 ◼   ► What do you mean by new machines? What is new machines?

01:15:01 ◼   ► You can still get a refurbished one, but like...

01:15:03 ◼   ► No, this is a different pick.

01:15:05 ◼   ► Because your previous pick was presuming that there would still be Intel machines available.

01:15:10 ◼   ► Apple has Apple Silicon versions of all its Intel machines, no Intel Macs on sale without...

01:15:15 ◼   ► I'll leave it up to you. It's close. I think it's on the fence.

01:15:19 ◼   ► It's very close.

01:15:20 ◼   ► My fate is in your hands.

01:15:25 ◼   ► So your previous pick was Apple has Apple Silicon versions of all of its Intel Macs on sale by the

01:15:30 ◼   ► end of 2021. No Intel Macs on sale without an Apple Silicon counterpart. Which accounted for

01:15:37 ◼   ► maybe there's an Apple Silicon Mac Pro. Oh actually no this is that's that's closer than I

01:15:42 ◼   ► thought it was. It's the same. Okay that's okay that's okay. That one is closer than the WWDC one.

01:15:47 ◼   ► In yeah so I'm gonna go you know what I'm gonna go negative. Okay. And I hate to say it but I just

01:15:54 ◼   ► I just I just believe it the iPads external display support goes unchanged

01:15:59 ◼   ► That this this madness of I could have to explain you have windows, okay

01:16:05 ◼   ► It's not I don't think it's in the future for the iPad not this year

01:16:08 ◼   ► Wow

01:16:10 ◼   ► Okay, do you find that heartbreaking Federico? Is this something that you're you're no I also find it hard

01:16:16 ◼   ► I also find it hard to believe I think it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna get this point because I feel like

01:16:21 ◼   ► and

01:16:24 ◼   ► Jason mentioned this recently somewhere, how all the stars have aligned for this feature to exist now,

01:16:31 ◼   ► and it seems very unlikely that they're not going to do it. Like, there's pointer support on iPad,

01:16:38 ◼   ► there's new multitasking and new multi-window, there's rumors of a new cheaper external display coming.

01:16:44 ◼   ► I can feel this one coming, Stephen, but please don't change it.

01:16:53 ◼   ► OK. My second pick is the next generation Apple Watch will have some kind of temperature sensor.

01:17:03 ◼   ► I think it's, again, this was rumored before.

01:17:07 ◼   ► I think it's time for the Apple, like the it's time for the Apple Watch to gain more sensors, right?

01:17:13 ◼   ► And it feels like especially the times we're living in that measuring your body temperature is an obvious one.

01:17:18 ◼   ► So by this you mean like a body temperature sensor?

01:17:23 ◼   ► When I read it, I thought like, like it knows like the temperature of the room.

01:17:26 ◼   ► Okay.

01:17:27 ◼   ► I was like, why, why would I care about that?

01:17:31 ◼   ► I mean, you're wearing the watch on your body.

01:17:34 ◼   ► You're not hanging the watch on a wall.

01:17:35 ◼   ► So that's the Apple clock.

01:17:36 ◼   ► Why you would make that connection.

01:17:38 ◼   ► So anyway, the next generation Apple watch will have some kind of body temperature.

01:17:43 ◼   ► Is that like big Apple buddy?

01:17:47 ◼   ► That's like big Apple buddy.

01:17:50 ◼   ► I would like this actually.

01:17:52 ◼   ► you said it I'd never really considered it but why not I want to know how hot I

01:17:55 ◼   ► am maybe my watch kids tell me oh I can tell you you just send me a selfie baby

01:18:03 ◼   ► no no no need for Apple watch these eights man I can tell you this much so

01:18:10 ◼   ► oh man I'm blushing now all right oh man I should have stolen this pic from you

01:18:16 ◼   ► Myke I forgot I had apparently the ability to do that but there will be no

01:18:21 ◼   ► iPhone 14 of a 5.4 inch display. That's the mini size right? Yeah but I wasn't

01:18:27 ◼   ► gonna say mini. I originally wrote it there will be no iPhone 14 mini and I

01:18:32 ◼   ► was like no no they might do something silly and call the smallest one mini.

01:18:37 ◼   ► No like they just call the regular phone the mini but I don't want that I don't

01:18:42 ◼   ► think they'll do that but they could have so I went with that so the the

01:18:44 ◼   ► iPhone mini size is 5.4 inches and there will be no iPhone 14 with a 5.4 inch

01:18:50 ◼   ► display. Is it wild to y'all that that's bigger than all phones used to be not that long ago?

01:18:56 ◼   ► Well it's because they don't have the like the home button stuff like the physical size of it is

01:19:01 ◼   ► is it's not it's not yeah but i mean like the display size you know but still yeah it is it

01:19:05 ◼   ► is funny that's the mini and like that wasn't that different to like one of the large phones.

01:19:10 ◼   ► That's almost two inches large more display than the original iPhone. Hey here's something funny

01:19:14 ◼   ► for you because you just said that so I went to check it the iPhone 13 mini has a 5.4 inch display

01:19:19 ◼   ► the iPhone 7 Plus had a 5.5 inch display.

01:19:23 ◼   ► Whoa.

01:19:25 ◼   ► No way.

01:19:27 ◼   ► Really?

01:19:28 ◼   ► That's wild.

01:19:28 ◼   ► Isn't that crazy?

01:19:29 ◼   ► Yeah, they've really gotten big.

01:19:31 ◼   ► That's so funny. I don't know if I knew that before, like I never thought to look, but 5.4 to 5.5.

01:19:38 ◼   ► It feels wrong, again, like you said, the bezels, you know, they trick your mind.

01:19:42 ◼   ► Yeah, that's so hilarious.

01:19:44 ◼   ► Okay, the rookies. Here's mine.

01:19:47 ◼   ► Apple, parenthetical, of its own choice, not in direct response to a legal case,

01:19:53 ◼   ► in parenthetical, will allow developers to use payment methods outside of the App Store.

01:19:59 ◼   ► Okay, I have a question immediately. How do we define of its own choice?

01:20:08 ◼   ► Not in direct response to a legal case. So there is definitely a "know it when you see it" kind

01:20:14 ◼   ► of thing but here's I was thinking about this too so the change that they've made

01:20:20 ◼   ► for the Japanese Fair Trade Commission they had to say you know they're like

01:20:24 ◼   ► because of we're settling this thing right this is if like they get on stage

01:20:30 ◼   ► at WWDC or put out something in the newsroom say we have exciting new things

01:20:34 ◼   ► for developer like that's the difference if it's settling a legal case they have

01:20:38 ◼   ► to say so they can't pretend that that's not the reason right so that's how I

01:20:43 ◼   ► I viewed that, that when I look at it from an outside. Stephen, would you like to change

01:20:47 ◼   ► anything on what I've said? No, I think that's right. What I was thinking is, if Apple loses

01:20:53 ◼   ► a case about this, everyone on the planet's gonna know about it, especially the three

01:20:57 ◼   ► of us who are super plugged in. Or even if it's a settlement, they have to, I think they

01:21:01 ◼   ► have to disclose that, at least they have done. And so yeah, this is Apple, you know,

01:21:05 ◼   ► in my mind, if this were to come true, it's one of those, the week before WWDC, maybe

01:21:11 ◼   ► Maybe they quote Phil Schiller, they get him down from the cloud and you know, he talks

01:21:15 ◼   ► about this and they're saying, hey, you know, if you want to use X, Y, or Z, you can do

01:21:21 ◼   ► that.

01:21:22 ◼   ► I'm not saying anything about what Apple try to take a cut of that as well, what limitations

01:21:26 ◼   ► they may or not put on it.

01:21:27 ◼   ► I'm just saying payment methods outside of the app store as we know it today.

01:21:32 ◼   ► I'm fine with this personally because I feel like we're going to know.

01:21:38 ◼   ► I mean, because like ultimately anything that they do,

01:21:41 ◼   ► it's not because they wanted to, right?

01:21:43 ◼   ► So like, it's not that, but it's like,

01:21:45 ◼   ► basically the pick is that they are making,

01:21:48 ◼   ► maybe it would just be easier

01:21:50 ◼   ► and I would still consider it risky

01:21:51 ◼   ► if they just said Apple will allow developers

01:21:54 ◼   ► to use payment methods outside of the app store,

01:21:56 ◼   ► not in direct response to a legal case.

01:21:58 ◼   ► Just remove the of its own choice part.

01:22:01 ◼   ► 'Cause I still don't think they're gonna do it.

01:22:03 ◼   ► So that works for me, Federico is gonna have to...

01:22:07 ◼   ► No, I think it works.

01:22:09 ◼   ► It makes it easier.

01:22:10 ◼   ► I mean, also this, the spirit of the pick is also that, so the spirit of the pick is

01:22:16 ◼   ► at some point Apple announces they're going to allow this.

01:22:18 ◼   ► Not because like judge someone orders Apple to do this.

01:22:23 ◼   ► Right.

01:22:24 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:22:25 ◼   ► Phil Shillators that come out on stage with a judge walking behind them with like a briefcase.

01:22:28 ◼   ► He comes out in handcuffs.

01:22:31 ◼   ► It's like, come here Phil.

01:22:34 ◼   ► You come here and you implement the thing on the App Store.

01:22:37 ◼   ► No, that doesn't happen.

01:22:39 ◼   ► It's like, come back here.

01:22:40 ◼   ► No, that doesn't happen.

01:22:41 ◼   ► Apple just comes out and says that either add WWDC

01:22:45 ◼   ► or they like to do these things right before WWDC.

01:22:50 ◼   ► They say, now you will have even more freedom

01:22:53 ◼   ► in terms of the payment methods

01:22:54 ◼   ► that you can now accept on the App Store.

01:22:56 ◼   ► Something like that.

01:22:57 ◼   ► You know how they like to phrase these things.

01:22:59 ◼   ► Not that, oh, shoot, we were forced to do this

01:23:03 ◼   ► and I guess we have to now,

01:23:05 ◼   ► But no, we're giving you even more flexibility.

01:23:08 ◼   ► - Even more flexibility of how you'll give us our 30%.

01:23:11 ◼   ► But nevertheless.

01:23:12 ◼   ► - Details.

01:23:15 ◼   ► - Pesky details.

01:23:17 ◼   ► - This can say, I think.

01:23:22 ◼   ► - All right, I love yours.

01:23:24 ◼   ► - All right, this is the great comeback

01:23:27 ◼   ► of a previous flexi that can now be reused

01:23:32 ◼   ► according to our rules as a regular pick.

01:23:35 ◼   ► iOS 16 brings major changes

01:23:40 ◼   ► for system-wide design customization.

01:23:44 ◼   ► Apple will let users natively change app icons.

01:23:47 ◼   ► - And. - And.

01:23:49 ◼   ► - And. - And.

01:23:51 ◼   ► They'll intro-- - Why?

01:23:53 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:23:54 ◼   ► - Why? - And.

01:23:56 ◼   ► They'll introduce new app store categories

01:24:00 ◼   ► for wallpaper and/or icon apps.

01:24:03 ◼   ► - I love if that's where you put the and/or, not.

01:24:06 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:24:08 ◼   ► - No, they're definitely gonna introduce a category.

01:24:11 ◼   ► It's just whether it's wallpapers or icons.

01:24:13 ◼   ► - That's my thinking, that's my thinking.

01:24:15 ◼   ► My thinking is.

01:24:17 ◼   ► - I will say, if they've done all of the other stuff

01:24:19 ◼   ► you mentioned before, they have to do that as well.

01:24:22 ◼   ► - Like, exactly.

01:24:23 ◼   ► So the pick is predicated on the fact

01:24:25 ◼   ► that they will let you modify app icons natively.

01:24:30 ◼   ► in a better way that is not like,

01:24:31 ◼   ► oh yeah, you just make a shortcut that says open app,

01:24:35 ◼   ► and then you load this custom JPEG from photos or files.

01:24:39 ◼   ► Like, there has to be a better way, right?

01:24:41 ◼   ► And if there has to be a better way,

01:24:42 ◼   ► there's also a way to monetize this on the App Store

01:24:46 ◼   ► and get a commission out of it.

01:24:48 ◼   ► All these wallpaper apps and all these like custom icon packs

01:24:52 ◼   ► that you can find now on the App Store, they suck.

01:24:55 ◼   ► Because like, I mean, some of them have beautiful wallpapers

01:25:00 ◼   ► icons, but the installation process is terrible, because it's like a workaround for a workaround.

01:25:06 ◼   ► And you have to believe that Apple has seen this, and they must be thinking there has to be a better

01:25:11 ◼   ► way for this. That is, like, if people like to do this stuff, fine, cat's out of the bag now, people

01:25:18 ◼   ► are customizing their icons, let's give them a better way to do so. And what better way to do so

01:25:23 ◼   ► than making, like, a native feature and Apple can get a commission out of it? Because now you can

01:25:28 ◼   ► can have a native icon pack or native wallpaper compatible app on the App Store and Apple

01:25:34 ◼   ► makes 30% out of it.

01:25:35 ◼   ► Wasn't there like a thing from a couple of years ago that it was coming, but it never

01:25:41 ◼   ► happened?

01:25:42 ◼   ► Exactly.

01:25:43 ◼   ► A couple of years ago, a couple of years ago, or like a year and a half ago or something,

01:25:48 ◼   ► there was a rumor that said Apple is working on native wallpaper apps that basically you

01:25:55 ◼   ► you install like a wallpaper-compatible app

01:25:58 ◼   ► from the App Store, and then in Settings,

01:26:00 ◼   ► you see all of the wallpapers

01:26:02 ◼   ► that the app is providing to the system.

01:26:04 ◼   ► Or developers will get an API

01:26:06 ◼   ► to natively install a wallpaper for you

01:26:09 ◼   ► without having to save your wallpaper to photos or to files.

01:26:14 ◼   ► You just natively install it from the app.

01:26:17 ◼   ► So I think it makes total sense

01:26:19 ◼   ► to have an icon and wallpaper API,

01:26:21 ◼   ► and it makes total sense to have App Store categories for both of them.

01:26:26 ◼   ► However, I don't want to risk it too much. I feel like icons are more ripe for that kind of attention

01:26:34 ◼   ► in terms of Developer Access and App Store section, and so that's why I put the "and/or"

01:26:43 ◼   ► in that part of the risky peak. So, again, iOS 16 brings major changes for system-wide

01:26:50 ◼   ► design customization. Apple will let users natively change app icons, and they'll introduce new apps

01:26:56 ◼   ► or categories for wallpaper and/or icon apps. That's the pick. Also, I should add Android has

01:27:05 ◼   ► done a bunch of visual customization this year, and Apple did not. Again, despite the success of iOS 14.

01:27:12 ◼   ► Very surprising.

01:27:14 ◼   ► Yeah, so my only--

01:27:17 ◼   ► and again, I'm raising a concern of my own here--

01:27:19 ◼   ► is the natively qualifier.

01:27:23 ◼   ► I feel like maybe that could be refined.

01:27:27 ◼   ► Users will let users natively change app icons.

01:27:31 ◼   ► Because I mean, at the moment, you can already

01:27:34 ◼   ► natively change an app icon, technically.

01:27:37 ◼   ► Maybe just like Apple will let users

01:27:40 ◼   ► choose their own app icons maybe something like that i know what you're trying to say but

01:27:46 ◼   ► yeah choose choose their own i think i prefer it i like this i like playing to apple's insistence

01:27:52 ◼   ► that everything be a store i think that's good all right you ready yes the new mac pro will be smaller

01:28:00 ◼   ► not a cube shape feature no support for the current mpx modules and or will allow for some form

01:28:08 ◼   ► of expandability outside of Thunderbolt.

01:28:11 ◼   ► It will be available in one color.

01:28:13 ◼   ► I love the final part, that it will only be available in one color.

01:28:18 ◼   ► I mean how many colors are they gonna make?

01:28:21 ◼   ► I'm gonna read it again because it's a lot.

01:28:22 ◼   ► Yes, okay.

01:28:23 ◼   ► Plus I added the Andor by the way.

01:28:27 ◼   ► It didn't, it previously said and.

01:28:28 ◼   ► Yes, I noticed.

01:28:29 ◼   ► I thought I got on the Andor train.

01:28:31 ◼   ► Also that part is particularly dicey so I figured I'd put Andor in there.

01:28:35 ◼   ► The new Mac Pro will be smaller.

01:28:38 ◼   ► not a cube shape, feature no support for the current MPX modules and/or will allow some form

01:28:45 ◼   ► of expandability outside of Thunderbolt. It will only be available in one color.

01:28:51 ◼   ► Hold on, so I just, I wanna clarify here. The and/or is a modifier for the

01:29:01 ◼   ► feature no support for MPX modules. Okay, so no comma there.

01:29:05 ◼   ► Sorry.

01:29:06 ◼   ► Because otherwise it could have been "oh it could be smaller, not a cube shape, no support for MP hacks"

01:29:11 ◼   ► The entire thing!

01:29:12 ◼   ► MP hacks, oh, and or!

01:29:13 ◼   ► Or you could also use USB.

01:29:15 ◼   ► That's the whole thing.

01:29:17 ◼   ► Because previously there was a comma there because it just went on to or, but then I added and or.

01:29:21 ◼   ► Okay, alright.

01:29:23 ◼   ► That's it.

01:29:24 ◼   ► I have so many feelings about this pick.

01:29:26 ◼   ► Mhm.

01:29:27 ◼   ► I don't know if you guys know this, I have a Mac Pro.

01:29:29 ◼   ► It's important to disclose that.

01:29:31 ◼   ► Mhm.

01:29:32 ◼   ► I think it would be smaller.

01:29:35 ◼   ► I mean, I can't I'm sure Apple knows but the percentage of people that have their Mac Pro completely stuffed full of stuff

01:29:42 ◼   ► Like cards has to be pretty low

01:29:44 ◼   ► It's a very big computer as far as computers go. It's very I mean not really

01:29:50 ◼   ► I mean, it's not that much bigger than my like gaming PC. It's very big with the handles

01:29:55 ◼   ► Its handles are great. They're great, but it makes the computer very big in my mind your entire pick

01:30:03 ◼   ► orbits around what Apple does with the GPU.

01:30:06 ◼   ► Because most people, well, every Mac Pro has a GPU in it,

01:30:11 ◼   ► you know, that takes up at least one MPX slot,

01:30:13 ◼   ► maybe two, maybe four, depending on the size of the GPU.

01:30:16 ◼   ► And so if it's all on die,

01:30:19 ◼   ► like we've seen with the other Apple Silicon,

01:30:21 ◼   ► then you don't need as many slots.

01:30:25 ◼   ► And maybe it's like MPX 2.0,

01:30:28 ◼   ► 'cause you can slap just a regular PCI card in there,

01:30:31 ◼   ► and they could retain that compatibility.

01:30:33 ◼   ► So it was just very interesting.

01:30:34 ◼   ► I'm very interested to see where this goes.

01:30:36 ◼   ► - No, I, so my personal feeling here is they say goodbye

01:30:41 ◼   ► to cards and bring back the wonder of the external GPU.

01:30:46 ◼   ► Like that's gonna be the thing.

01:30:47 ◼   ► If you want different and or more,

01:30:50 ◼   ► you have to use an eGPU.

01:30:52 ◼   ► Because I'm convinced-- - That's wild to me.

01:30:54 ◼   ► - I am convinced that Apple will say,

01:30:57 ◼   ► our graphics are enough.

01:30:59 ◼   ► - I think they'll say that too,

01:31:01 ◼   ► but Apple Silicon doesn't have currently at least have any support for external

01:31:06 ◼   ► displays, external GPUs.

01:31:09 ◼   ► But does Apple Silicon have support for MPX modules?

01:31:13 ◼   ► No.

01:31:15 ◼   ► Right.

01:31:15 ◼   ► But they could just add that the same as they could add anything.

01:31:18 ◼   ► Out of the two things, it feels like slots are more likely. Well, we'll see.

01:31:22 ◼   ► Right. But eGPUs are Thunderbolt. Like they know how to use that.

01:31:26 ◼   ► But do they want to open that door and all the other Macs? You know, like.

01:31:29 ◼   ► Sure. Why not?

01:31:29 ◼   ► I don't know. I don't know.

01:31:31 ◼   ► Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you do that?

01:31:33 ◼   ► I genuinely think that they are going to say that our graphics are enough.

01:31:37 ◼   ► Yeah, I think so too.

01:31:39 ◼   ► We'll see. This is the story for me next year, what they're going to do with the Mac Pro,

01:31:44 ◼   ► which was also the story three years ago. It keeps coming back.

01:31:47 ◼   ► I'm sorry Federico that it worked. I don't think it's going to be a cube.

01:31:50 ◼   ► I know you really want it to be a cube.

01:31:52 ◼   ► It's a cursed shape.

01:31:53 ◼   ► I just don't think they're going to do it. I really don't.

01:31:55 ◼   ► It's cursed for one, and two, I just think it's not the most efficient shape.

01:32:00 ◼   ► They should make it a pyramid.

01:32:02 ◼   ► I was gonna say, they've done the cylinder, and they've done a cube, what's left?

01:32:06 ◼   ► Cylinder, cube, pyramid or sphere? I have a peach.

01:32:11 ◼   ► The perfect blend of minimalism and whimsical.

01:32:15 ◼   ► The Mac Ball.

01:32:17 ◼   ► Like the Nexus Cube?

01:32:20 ◼   ► Just say it, the Mac Ball.

01:32:23 ◼   ► With the Mac Pro, we introduced wheels and we thought how great it was to move a computer

01:32:28 ◼   ► around so the Mac ball, we just made it a ball and you can push it wherever you want.

01:32:35 ◼   ► And they use the tagline, just roll with it.

01:32:38 ◼   ► Ah, yeah.

01:32:40 ◼   ► With the Oasis song as the soundtrack, just roll with it.

01:32:46 ◼   ► It's the Mac ball.

01:32:48 ◼   ► Y'all know that Apple store they opened somewhere.

01:32:50 ◼   ► It's like a floating sphere on the water.

01:32:52 ◼   ► Yes.

01:32:53 ◼   ► Maybe you can dig that up, put it in the show notes.

01:32:56 ◼   ► You know, that's a precursor to this.

01:32:59 ◼   ► - Again, Mac Ball.

01:33:01 ◼   ► - Mac Ball.

01:33:02 ◼   ► Mac Ball.

01:33:03 ◼   ► Mac Ball Pro.

01:33:04 ◼   ► - Apple Marina Bay Sands.

01:33:07 ◼   ► Marina Bay Sands.

01:33:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's beautiful.

01:33:11 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:33:12 ◼   ► And that is in Singapore.

01:33:13 ◼   ► - Let's go.

01:33:14 ◼   ► - That's where that is.

01:33:16 ◼   ► I would love to go to Singapore.

01:33:18 ◼   ► - All right, flexies.

01:33:20 ◼   ► - Tim Cook says Metaverse.

01:33:22 ◼   ► Oh no, that's so gross.

01:33:25 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:33:26 ◼   ► Oh, it's good.

01:33:28 ◼   ► May I remind you, 5G, this is what cinched it for me.

01:33:32 ◼   ► Will he say metaverse the way I do with T as a D?

01:33:36 ◼   ► Like a meta, metaverse?

01:33:39 ◼   ► Good morning from the metaverse.

01:33:42 ◼   ► Good morning from the metaverse.

01:33:45 ◼   ► Good morning from the metaverse.

01:33:47 ◼   ► The bad Tim Cook.

01:33:48 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:33:50 ◼   ► That would be a bad Tim Cook if he said it,

01:33:52 ◼   ► but I think he's gonna say it.

01:33:53 ◼   ► Genuinely, I think that the term has just taken off

01:33:58 ◼   ► and I just feel like if they're gonna have

01:34:01 ◼   ► a AR/VR product, they kind of can't get away from it.

01:34:05 ◼   ► That's how I feel.

01:34:06 ◼   ► AirPods Max 2.

01:34:08 ◼   ► - Okay, that's all the pic says.

01:34:11 ◼   ► Does it mean they have to be named AirPods Max 2?

01:34:13 ◼   ► - I think it does.

01:34:14 ◼   ► Okay, well then.

01:34:16 ◼   ► - Well.

01:34:17 ◼   ► - It's written in the document.

01:34:18 ◼   ► - But that's not, the flexies aren't so rigid.

01:34:21 ◼   ► That's around the name.

01:34:23 ◼   ► Alright, new AirPods Max.

01:34:25 ◼   ► Okay.

01:34:27 ◼   ► A mixed reality headset will not be unveiled at WWDC.

01:34:31 ◼   ► Okay, so this means that if they unveil an AR or VR headset, it counts?

01:34:38 ◼   ► A headset will not be unveiled at WWDC.

01:34:41 ◼   ► [laughter]

01:34:43 ◼   ► Okay.

01:34:45 ◼   ► I don't think they'll do it at WWDC. I think they'll do what they did with the Apple Watch.

01:34:49 ◼   ► Like it gets its own event and then it gets the secondary event. Mmm. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna happen at WWDC

01:34:55 ◼   ► I think they will

01:34:57 ◼   ► Whenever they announce it, even if they are only announcing it for developers

01:35:02 ◼   ► They need to show off the product because that's what people are tuning in for right?

01:35:07 ◼   ► They will show off the product and I think you're gonna get it would be an hour

01:35:12 ◼   ► To do so this isn't so much a pic about it not happening. It's just a pic about the context in which it happens

01:35:18 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't think I think I actually do think they will show something off this year

01:35:23 ◼   ► I do not think it will be during WWDC. So what if you changed it to say a non

01:35:28 ◼   ► WBC event like something that

01:35:32 ◼   ► Captures the idea that you that it is happening just not a dub-dub

01:35:36 ◼   ► What difference does it make?

01:35:38 ◼   ► Because the more specific it is the easier it is for you to lose the point

01:35:41 ◼   ► But no, I don't think it makes any difference

01:35:43 ◼   ► difference but I'm keeping it as it is a headset will not be unveiled at WWDC

01:35:47 ◼   ► and iMac Pro is unveiled I was against this idea initially but I think I've

01:35:53 ◼   ► come around I think that's what they're gonna call the big iMac iPad OS

01:35:56 ◼   ► multitasking remains unchanged from iOS 15's implementation yep it's every other

01:36:01 ◼   ► year or every three years you know like like what Jason was saying and like what

01:36:07 ◼   ► Federico was saying which was in opposite to what you were saying if they

01:36:11 ◼   ► did some kind of like external display thing they would have to change it I'm

01:36:16 ◼   ► just not convinced I'm more I am more convinced in Apple's lack of doing

01:36:22 ◼   ► something than their action and doing something so this is very closely linked

01:36:27 ◼   ► to my pick about external display support yeah I think if I lose that one

01:36:31 ◼   ► you lose this one maybe well if they add external display what if they add

01:36:36 ◼   ► external display support but it's just a better mirrored mode like there are

01:36:42 ◼   ► versions of external displays display support that can be added that do not

01:36:47 ◼   ► change the multitasking I don't know about that sure there is because we were

01:36:53 ◼   ► talking about this from way before what does it do right now does it I don't

01:36:56 ◼   ► I've never even tried have to leave the screen on and everything but we'll see

01:37:01 ◼   ► We'll deal with this when it comes up.

01:37:02 ◼   ► - All right, Steven, you're up.

01:37:05 ◼   ► - iWIS 16 will bring a more bottom of the screen

01:37:08 ◼   ► centric design to at least one additional app.

01:37:11 ◼   ► Safari has all of its stuff on the bottom.

01:37:14 ◼   ► That feels like a really good move

01:37:15 ◼   ► in a land of bigger phones.

01:37:17 ◼   ► I think we're gonna see that come to at least one more app.

01:37:20 ◼   ► I want it to be messages, kind of, honestly.

01:37:23 ◼   ► Why are my pen ones all so far away?

01:37:25 ◼   ► Apple announces a new paid service.

01:37:28 ◼   ► Do you have, what is this in your mind?

01:37:30 ◼   ► - Service that you pay for.

01:37:33 ◼   ► - You have no imagination? - I don't have to invent them.

01:37:36 ◼   ► - All right, fine.

01:37:37 ◼   ► - I mean, I do think, so I don't know.

01:37:41 ◼   ► A new paid service.

01:37:42 ◼   ► - I mean, you picked it.

01:37:43 ◼   ► So like you just picked it with like nothing?

01:37:45 ◼   ► - They love paid services, they want that graph to go up.

01:37:47 ◼   ► I couldn't predict Fitness Plus and it's here.

01:37:49 ◼   ► - Lexus just said something that I saw a rumor for,

01:37:52 ◼   ► which is audio books.

01:37:53 ◼   ► I saw that there was a rumor about this a couple of days ago.

01:37:55 ◼   ► - It could be audio books.

01:37:57 ◼   ► Oh, what a great idea!

01:37:59 ◼   ► Yeah, you pay $8 a month and you get all-you-can-eat audiobooks.

01:38:02 ◼   ► A new home-focused device is released.

01:38:06 ◼   ► HomePod Mini gets a friend.

01:38:08 ◼   ► What if they release a light bulb?

01:38:09 ◼   ► Do you remember when everybody wanted them to release light bulbs?

01:38:11 ◼   ► What if Apple should just make light bulbs?

01:38:14 ◼   ► Apple announces a developer-focused AR/VR and/or MR kit.

01:38:20 ◼   ► So this is different from my previous pick where it was going to be like, they ship it.

01:38:25 ◼   ► This is a DTK.

01:38:26 ◼   ► This is a developer kit for people to...

01:38:29 ◼   ► Can you just call it that then?

01:38:31 ◼   ► Because what this says doesn't...

01:38:32 ◼   ► I don't understand what this means.

01:38:33 ◼   ► A developer focused AR/VR and/or MR kit?

01:38:37 ◼   ► Well that is to cover on my basis because you guys are jerks.

01:38:39 ◼   ► Can you not just do Apple announces a DTK headset?

01:38:43 ◼   ► Like that will be fine.

01:38:45 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:38:46 ◼   ► DTK headset.

01:38:47 ◼   ► Okay.

01:38:48 ◼   ► Wow, you're good with words, Myke.

01:38:49 ◼   ► I should be a writer.

01:38:50 ◼   ► a more powerful Mac Mini is announced,

01:38:53 ◼   ► but is not a Mac Mini Pro.

01:38:55 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna be combining those names.

01:38:58 ◼   ► - In your mind, does that replace all of the Mac Minis

01:39:01 ◼   ► currently available, and it's just like one Mac Mini?

01:39:03 ◼   ► - I don't see why they couldn't just have like Mac Mini,

01:39:08 ◼   ► and they have an M1 or whatever entry level,

01:39:12 ◼   ► and then for $800 more, you get like a beefy one.

01:39:15 ◼   ► Like just the way it's always been,

01:39:16 ◼   ► it's just a spectrum of products.

01:39:18 ◼   ► Lex just raised a good point in the Discord.

01:39:21 ◼   ► Apple announces a DTK headset.

01:39:23 ◼   ► So developer transition kit.

01:39:25 ◼   ► Transition from what?

01:39:26 ◼   ► - Reality.

01:39:27 ◼   ► - All right, good enough.

01:39:32 ◼   ► - Developer kit for their headset.

01:39:38 ◼   ► It's headset.

01:39:39 ◼   ► God, I'm not turning it to Myke.

01:39:41 ◼   ► Okay.

01:39:41 ◼   ► - It's a better way of saying it.

01:39:42 ◼   ► Can I ask a question about the developer kit?

01:39:44 ◼   ► 'Cause again, this might be important for later on.

01:39:45 ◼   ► - Yes, you can.

01:39:46 ◼   ► My current thinking is Apple will not release any hardware for developers.

01:39:51 ◼   ► They will say, "Here you go, buy a HTC Vive, plug it in, and you can make it work."

01:39:56 ◼   ► If they did that, is that a developer kit?

01:39:59 ◼   ► No, it shouldn't, like if it's made by HTC.

01:40:02 ◼   ► If it runs their software, it is.

01:40:04 ◼   ► But that's not us, no, because then it's saying that every Mac is a developer kit, which it

01:40:07 ◼   ► isn't, because it will be.

01:40:08 ◼   ► No, no, if they, if they, okay, so your exact scenario at WBC or some other event, which

01:40:14 ◼   ► now that you've said it makes a lot of sense to me. You know, what's his boy?

01:40:18 ◼   ► What's his name? Uh, watch boy. What's his name? Watch boy. Okay.

01:40:23 ◼   ► Kevin Lynch. Watch boy. Kevin watch boy. Kevin Lynch has said to be working on

01:40:28 ◼   ► the car, not this. Oh, who's working on the headset. You are. I come out on

01:40:33 ◼   ► stage. No, we didn't. We decided that Rubio is doing it. No, he's a Senator

01:40:38 ◼   ► from Florida. Riccio, Dan Riccio.

01:40:43 ◼   ► - Rubio, right? (laughs)

01:40:45 ◼   ► - Marco Rubio.

01:40:46 ◼   ► (both laughing)

01:40:49 ◼   ► - Marco Rubio, oh my God.

01:40:53 ◼   ► - So Dan.

01:40:56 ◼   ► - Head boy, Marco Rubio.

01:40:58 ◼   ► - Dan Rubio.

01:41:00 ◼   ► - Somebody from Apple comes out on stage

01:41:02 ◼   ► and they say, developers, developers, developers.

01:41:07 ◼   ► - Developers, developers, developers, developers.

01:41:10 ◼   ► - We are making a headset

01:41:12 ◼   ► and we want to put it in your hands first

01:41:14 ◼   ► to build great applications for our headset and its store.

01:41:18 ◼   ► Under your seat, you will find a MetaQuest 2 running what?

01:41:23 ◼   ► That's the question, right?

01:41:26 ◼   ► - Nothing, it doesn't need to run anything.

01:41:28 ◼   ► It just is like an Xcode simulator

01:41:30 ◼   ► and it just shows it in your eyes.

01:41:31 ◼   ► - Is that how the MetaQuest works?

01:41:34 ◼   ► Like, is that how anything works?

01:41:35 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:41:36 ◼   ► - Well, okay, you can plug a MetaQuest into a PC

01:41:40 ◼   ► and use it as if it's the full featured Oculus Quest.

01:41:43 ◼   ► - And so it pulls all of its UI and everything from the PC.

01:41:48 ◼   ► - Yeah, you're just using it as a screen then.

01:41:51 ◼   ► - I would say that in my mind,

01:41:54 ◼   ► the idea of a developer kit is anything,

01:41:57 ◼   ► any hardware Apple puts in the hands of its developers,

01:42:01 ◼   ► it is not gonna ship.

01:42:02 ◼   ► Like I don't think it necessarily has--