00:00:05 ◼ ► siracusa tell me about your 4k display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► yeah this is not really related to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► mac pro and apples getting out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/12">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► play business and all that business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► it's strangely connected so I've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/17">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► theoretically supports 4k four games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► four games that are updated to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/27">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► in that actually do support it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► figure since i am keeping my all ps4 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► they have a game are with it as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► needed a new monitor for the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► because neither one of these is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► hooked up to my TV for display burn-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► reasons so when I was going to get new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► monitor think I get a 4k one because hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► this the playstation 4 pro is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► that's what i should do it so I shopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► around for 4k monitor that support HDR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► which is another feature of the ps4 pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► actually maybe they packed back part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► anyway apparently it's impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► find an HDR capable 4k computer monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► you can find TVs obviously but I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► looking for TV and and/or and also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► size inflation of tvs that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► maybe three years ago four years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► where any decent TV is now I get at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► least 55 inches you I'm fearing the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► that someday you won't be able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► one less than 65 inches like the minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► size for a decent TV is gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► can I get a 27 inch 4k TV with HDR the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► answer is no no you can't you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► 55-inch got one of those for you anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► no HDR but he didn't get 4k so I shopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► around a little bit i hate doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► cuz I don't like a million different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► products and then the in the non-apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► world so much selection is overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► ended up getting a viewsonic great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/110">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► programs XG 2704 k display which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/115">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► really nice especially like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► height-adjustable was very sturdy get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► the water itself is a little chunky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► jessica is black with like a red stripe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► and he's silly my wasn't word this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► not only expensive but your whining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► about the LG display and the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► looks and this has freakin red trim on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► it are you serious John Syracuse's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► racing stripes that make it go faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► man this is not my mac obviously with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► playstation 4 have you seen with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► playstation 4 itself looks like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/151">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► terrible call it the LG ultra fine is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► is not a pretty monitor I'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► to say it's pretty but it's positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► understated compared to this atrocity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► and does not that I mean if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► it it's basically just completely black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► around the display and all you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► when you're sitting in front of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► understand and you can't even see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► red stripe on the vertical thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► it gets covered up i have a monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► anyway that's what I got all and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► alright all of these pc gaming monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/181">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► adjustments on the device itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► had nothing to do with things connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/190">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► to it so on the device itself you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► adjust like brightness and contrast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► also a million other settings some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► which are strange through every way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► on-screen controls you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► bitmapped little menu thing and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► have like a the viewsonic has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► one-in-two button like the one brings up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► there's up and down arrows so bad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► terrible interfaces it's kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► televisions first got on screen displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► OSD they call them on-screen display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► which doesn't really mean that stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► for on screens but anyway I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► that's right it doesn't make it on where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► else with the display be on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► display and this is very i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► looking this monitor i mean like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► tastefully designed pc monitors I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► multiple viewsonic monitors they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► really good usually I like red even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► is one of my favorite colors for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► red-hats forever but I look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► monitor and i cannot even imagine buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► this thing and having this on my desk I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► could not agree more you should look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► just look at the monitor part of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► monitor from the front it is literally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► matte black rectangle with the word you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► sonic on the bottom like that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► well if but you you will know that I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► if you're not seeing the red stripe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/272">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► the back your monitor is probably too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► well i mean i guess you can see a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/276">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► tiny bit of it but you don't notice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► and then like the stand among stands you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► don't know how how deep this thing goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► go look at some of the stands of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► pc and gaming monitor just do do me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► favor do me a favor get get up get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/288">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► face arm and have that hold this up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► I'm getting to the beasts are ok I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► get that is it visa right visa at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► I'm gonna save ISA and it's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► everything so I don't understand how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/301">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► atrocity that you would never be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► use ever and then you buy this piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/310">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► how do you think do you think I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► difference does it make oh it makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► difference i would never connect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► time academia to be on the same desk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► my mac i love you have lower standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► for the other like the pc but maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► won't show you before and not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► before i do i don't i don't disagree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► you really have no choice like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► I understand me but you have no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► if there is no like nice tasteful pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► hardware for the most part even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► things like the HP spectre are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► you know I see they're putting in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► not to my taste anyway let me continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► my story here so i got this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► the adjustments on over are very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► i'm trying to get it sort of calibrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► to something reasonable but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► all sorts of settings most of which fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/357">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► sensibilities because the television you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► want to adjust like you trying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► there is a goal there is like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► get reference images and say it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► look like this you know because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► television content is produced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► expectation that here is the color range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► of your display here is the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► brightness Behavior all sorts of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► things like that whereas for a gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► monitor specifically games are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► produced with any sort of reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► viewing environment right because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/389">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► things are produced I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► they decide like how dr. the textures be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► and you know what color range we use I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► I really don't know what they use but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/402">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► quote-unquote correctly and are all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► the map and there is a setting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► seems to be pervasive on all pc monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► especially with the game bet they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► black stabilization have you ever even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► heard of that know what why why is black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► changing yeah so in games a lot of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► sections were you like in a cave or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► something but if you're playing a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► especially a competitive game you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/430">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► faithfully reproduced the blacks because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► you won't be able to see anything is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► is an advantage for you instead to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► the monitor so that kind of i'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► assuming it's like squashing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► difference between a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► black and ninety-nine percent black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► ninety-eight percent black and this cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► is important for me to see that so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► pick out the edges of the cave walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► find where the enemies are whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► competitive first-person shooters in pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► gaming they're not trying to get visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/460">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► television show what they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► do is can I see everything clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► so a lot of the monitors have settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► that make the picture worse like by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► reducing the the dynamic range and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► making areas that would be black less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► black which looks looks bad it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► bad black level in your TV and also all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► the settings that are involved like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► response time because that's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► thing you a lot of gamers use TN panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► which nobody uses anymore because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► look terrible the viewing angles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► terrible but they have better response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► time I've never gone that far i couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► get a tee and display because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► like that means like going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► macbook air like no I mean you aren't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► so again I got an IPS display which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► it has a 25 times response time but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► on these displays a way you can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► the response time to be as good as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► sacrificing sacrificing visual quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► I'm trying to strike the right balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/515">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► between don't look terrible monitor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► also i do feel there's a benefit to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► having everything be black when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► doing the raid and one of the raids in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► a lot of dark areas and I'm doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► try to do something i like you know I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► have it adjusted quote-unquote wrong so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► um so anyway I had a lot of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► trying to get the viewsonic set up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► way but the real problem was that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► while my playstation 4 pro did not show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► me a 4k output option that would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► output 1080p I'm like well that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/547">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► what i want to i need you to output for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► k so i did a bunch of googling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► PlayStation says you know count-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► porque and it would say hdcp 2.2 not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► I don't know if you guys are familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► with hdcp but it's another one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► stupid things that make you mine Morris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► m and this monitor probably predates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► hdcp 2.2 only sports like I figure with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the earlier standard is maybe 1.1 thru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► anyway I had had a quote-unquote hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► 2.0 cable and everything it was good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► it didn't work with it and did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► viewsonic on Twitter hey does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► monitor support hdcp 2.2 they sorry no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► oh my god only have to return this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► get over monitor now it turns out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/586">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► can get it two games to display 4k on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► this it has a bunch of hdmi ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► back and like so many televisions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► monitors before only one of the ports is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► so once i move the cable to the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► part the one and only good part which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► isn't labeled with anything that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► hey this is the only one that does hdmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► 2.0 hey this is the only one that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► 4k but turns out there's only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► so I could display games in 4k on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► but I still wanted to get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► monitor because this one still doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► support HD people to point to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► probably isn't a factor of playing games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► but it doesn't mean like Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► other stuff like that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► display video content won't do it on 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► intellectual property copy-protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► dance just the right way for stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► reasons so I return this one and grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► Marco fashion although this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► plain all my fault of like I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► didn't even think to look for hdcp 2.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► Mike actually a gaming monitor this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► one of those has hdmi input i should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► good to go but and by the way I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► usually return things usually i sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► them I thought about selling this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► because like the stupid restocking fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► on this was going to be a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► online well i can sell it for more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► restocking fee i'll return for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► it's just an issue of like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► to like like I feel bad returning things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► when I know someone else is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/664">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► even the cost but if I'm definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► eating the cost then i won't feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► yeah I was okay if i sold it to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► else like a brand new monitor that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► like barely even touched the pic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► thinking of the PLA plastic stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► protects yeah that was the one that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► brand-new you but if I could have sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► it for somebody for like maybe eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► dollars less than i paid for it then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► still want to come out ahead anyway so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► returned that one and in its place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► I got done and LG 4k display I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► have an LG 5k display I now have an LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► 4k display doesn't have that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► little head with the camera in it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► hey what model is it the ridiculous i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► just put the blanket ronson it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► fivehead it is more tame looking well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► there's no edge there is it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► just it's very thin but that it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► know so you notice this one is smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► overall it comes in a very small boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► case he noted the frame around it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► very small the panel is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► same panel that's in like every LG 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► inch 4k display that you can get right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► now because they sell a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► them with different letter suffixes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► them the little stand that it's on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► because the viewsonic stand was big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► chunky height-adjustable and red and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► stable right and this monitor if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► take your finger and put it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/749">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► corner and tap upwards the monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► baubles this little bobble head like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► it's one of those little hula dolls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► put on dashboard or bobblehead figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► right it is the worst design standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► just connect with two screws that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► screwing yourself to this little tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► terrible stand its ugly too i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► it takes up more room on your desk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► wise and then that square thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► viewsonic know there's no red stripe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► function of keeping the monitor still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► if I bump my desk with my neon playing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► gotta watch stupid bobblehead bobble in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► front of me now it does have a vesa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► mount on the back and so I said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► right well whatever who cares about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► the hundred millimeter recent on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► back of the thing all i have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► find a sturdy vesa mount get rid of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► stupid foot and it used that but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► want an arm is that I want to clamp it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► to my desk because I've glass on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► my desk and I want to clamp onto my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► isn't that you know and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► want armed too much stuff going on back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► there just want to stand and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► single visa stand i could find was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► yeah you're not gonna not gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► good time there they're terrible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the metal ones look like giant metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► horseshoes the plastic ones look just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► bad as this so I'm just gonna I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► you know not hitting my desk and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► careful and by the way the on-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► controls those ones are better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► viewsonic but still pretty grim this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► has a tiny little joystick under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► it's like kind of like a 5-way switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► you know you got up down left right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► press in but what boy what a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► interface and because it's the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► that'sthat's like pointing down but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► you're trying to move controls on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► different plane up down left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► and anyway i think this one looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► little bit better the view sonics panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► quality wise or maybe it's just that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► having had more time to tweak it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► the adjustments are not so painful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► use in the menu but has all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► adjustment in which the value that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► want is high i don't want high response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► time and but yet because of the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► named these features and probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► decor translation of the options i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► to look at the manual and say which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► response time numbers a lower number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► milliseconds so high that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► why would you ever want to be slower i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► was i think it decreases uh you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► the quality of the display decreases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► added something i'm assuming the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► quality or something like it it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► less processing on the display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► probably you know it's it's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► not put as much computation between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► same thing with is like a sharpness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► thing that apply a sharpness filter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► especially when playing games in 1080 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► like destiny is still just 1080 sharpen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► filter does help make the text look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► better but it adds processing overhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► so if you really want the best response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► time i'm assuming that the best option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► is to turn the sharpest all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► which is what I've done anyway i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► little bit better to my eyes then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► viewsonic and now i'm just patiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► waiting for 4k games to come up so i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► not have this exact same honor I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► mistaken for a couple different reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► 1i i'm pretty sure two different models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/932">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► I got the ud 58 hyphen be and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► key bozell on mine is considerably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► larger than the bozell on yours also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► if this is ever going to get connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► to a computer if you're if you're ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► going to connect to computer 4k is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► you should have gotten 5k yeah i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► american gangster computer computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► connected to my gaming pc well you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► connected to your piece of garbage mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► in theory and then actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► random act no I would this also is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► going to be connected to a mac i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► that all this trouble you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► through I mean this is all like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► crazy stuff you're going through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► having this whole separate desk setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► that of course this one going to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► mac and everything and having this pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► monitor all this and yet you won't build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► a gaming pc like you're basically doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► equally you're putting in all the effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► that it would take to have a game no CA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► the PlayStation is way less effort than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► a gaming pc way less than all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► once you get into all this crazy monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► twiddling you're doing I mean really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► like you might like why is there not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► gaming pc on this second second to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► desk that you have the game bc would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► do it there's no destiny for pc yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► destiny to maybe coming to pc fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► anyway there's no destiny for bc us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► guardian for pc there's no uncharted 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► BC that like I need to have this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► the thing that I need their gaming pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► does not replace this in any possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► especially since the only thing I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► with my console players play like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► handful of games that are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► console exclusives even on my nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► consoles there's no gaming pc is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► to play an XL the game right that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► i buy these things for so i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► to have a gaming pc in addition to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► and there's no report and it's way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► headache honest you know I didn't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► the 4k think i was excited to get a 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► monitor and play games that resolution i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► that had updates that came out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► really just makes things a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► sharper because i like they redid all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► the textures for the most part I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► over watches for can now I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► looked at yet but anyway there's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► of games there and having been a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► playstation vr yet but i'm considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► getting that but now i'm i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► oh my mom about the ps4 probe the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► complaint I have about it and I realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► you probably just complain to sony and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► get this fixed the one controller that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► the ps4 pro came with the left analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► stick if you look at it like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► side is tilted in the neutral position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► ever so slightly and then I'm gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► any of that so i'm using my old i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► using my old girl shocked because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► didn't change the controller anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► has changed like the buttons are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► like ugly gray instead of a black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► thick maybe triggers might be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► bit better anyway I'm gonna complain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► Sony's look at this thing out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► the in the in the neutral position all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► these analog sticks should be straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► up and down this one is tilted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► me a new thing I'm sure Sony will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► oh I'm sure on the one side John I truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► genuinely admire how perceptive you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► and how you can notice these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► oh you would notice it's not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► this is obscured only notice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► they're like a out of level or a plumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► bob you've noticed with your eyeballs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► is not not subtle but with that said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► am so glad that i am at worst mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► critical and hypercritical pqr this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► little conversation i'm sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► this is one area I don't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► about like I don't care about gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► really at all i'd like to but i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► barely care about tvs i barely care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► about TV adjustments in picture quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► judgments and everything I am just I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► certainly don't care about analog sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► being slightly tilted from neutral i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► just so happy that I'd like there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► many areas that I care way too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► about at least here's one that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► yep i'm not i'm not carving my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► analog sticks out of plastic that be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► equivalent of you roasting your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► beans a person remains is really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► that hard and it's really good i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► it is one thing to be picky about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► things that you buy but at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► point you said there's nothing I can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► I must I must make it myself and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► would be going to be carving my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► controllers and I got a controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► assembly kit and like making my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► different pieces you try to find good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► coffee on this half of the county i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► there's no good control is either but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► just accept what they only ones i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► wanted to be like you know correct as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► when it comes out-of-the-box everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► should be straight if you could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► your imperfect controller for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► dollars in 20 minutes when you do it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► and then i have to drink it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► gone i gotta do it all over again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► the analogy is breaking down all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► so anyway um this this monitor that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► bought John is not HDR is that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► now it's not it's not one of the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► that's why you bought that god-awful red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► racing stripe to be Sonic was to get are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► none of them are no you can't get as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► performers are there there are none for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► sale there is no there is no gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► monitor like that you can get a TV with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► HD are you get a 4k TV with hdmi port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► for ps4 pro but as far as I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► determine there is no monitor computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► monitor that you can buy as in the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► that's 27 inches not 55 you put a desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► as a CR support this episode is brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► to you by Squarespace start building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► your website today at squarespace.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► enter offer code ATP at checkout to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► Squarespace sites look amazingly look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► professionally designed regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► your skill level and you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► code although if you want to you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► jump in there and edit the code you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► do things like inject JavaScript or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► inject your own CSS move around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► blocks to customize your theme but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► you don't want to you don't have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► can drag and drop things if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► you can just change colors and stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► it's totally up to you with squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► with their intuitive easy-to-use tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► for building websites it is such a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► difference from the way we used to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► websites it is so much easier today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► squarespace you've got to check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► if you're making this site for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► or even better if you're making a site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► for somebody else if you don Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► you don't have to be involved it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► so if you're making up for somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► yourself which is usually the right move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► these days the worst use of your time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► updating a website CMS you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► outsource that to squarespace whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► you're making the site for yourself or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► somebody else let them handle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► so you couldn't do your project you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► do you can show your photos you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► your store you can make your portfolio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► you can make a blog website for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► business or anything else you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► squarespace so check out today to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► squarespace com start free trial when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► you decide to sign up but you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► will because amazing use offer code ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► to get ten percent off your purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► ah can you guys see the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► between wide color and not because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► I've just never really had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► example photo and like two screens next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► to each other but briefly before I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► up my success when I have but I did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► side-by-side and damned if I could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► the difference not office in my eyes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► crappy which they unequivocally are if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► just don't appreciate it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► possible or it did is it just not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► big a deal if you're not like a designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► like Marco for example do you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► able to tell the difference when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► just look at arbitrary photo on a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► color display vs a not white color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► display not yet i suspect as wide color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► displays become what I'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► every day is like right now I do most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► my computing on a 2014 5 k iMac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► does not have the the high color display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► and so I now have it on my phone and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► ipad but really i'm doing almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► my you know looking at things on my imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► but it's not it's not doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► where you look at them it's the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► material so Casey if you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► you look at if you look the same picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► that you took in a pre wide color world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► of course is gonna look the same because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► there's no white color information in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► you have to take the picture with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► device capable of capturing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► then look at that same picture 1 unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► your iphone 7 that you took it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► took a white color picture and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► one that I thought that's what I did but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► but but truth be told it was right when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► accidentally have taken like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► and so I don't see anything but and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► seen like the sample images like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► there's a like a big red blob and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► there's an are hidden in there that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► wouldn't see unless its wide color you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► don't stuff like that but nevertheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► on a regular picture I've not noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► the difference and as a corollary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► question is is my two-year-old micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► four-thirds I presume that's not wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► colors that fair to say most cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► have well most cameras don't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► option middle and high end cameras often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► will have an option to save the colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► in adobe RGB maybe instead of like srgb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► but as far I haven't looked too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► into this as far as i know that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► the conversion happens after raw anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► so you might be able to fix this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► just a different Rock conversion process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► and John do you know about this i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► gonna say what you said like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► other color profiles that are not called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► p3 that nevertheless have a larger range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► than srgb ya kiddo BRB he's one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► yeah I don't know which what the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► envelopes looks like an all of them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and especially if you capture all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► Kevin that's all the information you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► going to get and if you can pull myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► out of it i don't know but yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► like your best source for images with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► white color is your iphone 7 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► it's you know but it's all connected up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► and then there if you actually look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► cranberries page where he has a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► sample images if you really can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► the difference between the sample images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► because they're made to like emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► the areas where humans can perceive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► p3 color difference more but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► really emphasize those are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► artificial but i have seen some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► pictures where it's like just a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► of like a park like grass in a tree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► side-by-side like I do on my iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and i go to that page like all right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► mean it's not doesn't jump out at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► but if you look you're like like is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► really the same picture it's like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► this is literally the same picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► because one is srgb and the other one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► showing the four white color in the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► what color one that it's it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► like contrast is turned down the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► one like there's not like the Greens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► don't look as green like most you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► on the grass type situation like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► that tree looks a little bit more past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► not a lot but you have to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► side-by-side to see it i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► could pick one out alone but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► literally show me the same picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► not why'd you go all the wide looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► little better that's about it ok ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► I'm not entirely crazy then because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► looking at this link on WebKit will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► in the show notes and they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► this is what i was thinking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► WebKit logo which is like this big red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► blob that in srgb you don't see the logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► and then if you go into p3 you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► the logo well if you scroll down on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► same page they have yellow flower and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► you click with this is like what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► saying John if you click between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► sRGB only and the p3 unequivocally I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► tell that the p3 is much more vivid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► but if i were to look at either of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► images like you said John without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► unlike say a Retina screen versus a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► retina screen were just words just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► unbelievably obvious with these i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► think i would notice the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► I mean that's how I'm with most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► to it you know that like the example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► things if I look at it like I'm ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► which is my current biggest mp3 screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► it the these pictures look great Shirley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► like that the big orange Sun sets like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► yet they do look a little more saturated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► in in those like orangie reddish tones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► but you can look at a non retina screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► or a non-retina image our asset on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► webpage on retina screen and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► the very first thing I see that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► non-retina if you after your custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► retina you notice that immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► whereas if I am scrolling through web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► page and I see a picture of an orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► sunset that is not p3 after used to p3 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► don't think i will notice because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► could just look like it wasn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► saturated a picture as it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► been and so it's not you know it's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► smaller advance for everyday casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► observing and for most people it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► to have i'm glad they're doing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► it's especially nice you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► actually shoot a lot of pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► orange Sun sets and things but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► a very you know in in general use it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► the kind of thing you can very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► forget that you even have ok that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► experience as well when I was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► because I feel like maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► because I follow people like Hockenberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► and Mark Edwards and and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► they're really revved up about it but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► me I was like man I barely see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► difference and I'm glad to hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► that's not necessarily unusual the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► more things on the monitors first Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► the work you should tap the underside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► one of the corners your monitor and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► if you got a bobblehead to because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► oh yeah but it's like what a bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► like the stand as one simple function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► just put the monitor up off the desk off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and it fails that thing not the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► thing is the one thing even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► LG monitors you know it's not much to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► like it is just black everywhere it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► not mad it's not shiny doesn't have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► of a frame around it is not a fivehead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► the part of the bottom is the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► part so like its proportions that the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► logo is small and subtle but if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► to that Amazon page from my thing and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► the little do me thing you can you zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► in and see the LG logo right move over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► to the right from the LG logo what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► you see there lurking in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► because this is a pc products just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► to be ugly in some stupid way what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► you see there this stupid energy star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and it's small it's not a big energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► star badge and it's black and white like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► it's not colored and weird but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► whole front of this thing has nothing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► it i will accept the LG logo is small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► and tasteful and centered why the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► is an NGO store and so I'm like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► going to peel that sticker off but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► one of those stickers we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► to think on it for a while because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► clearly not one of the ones that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► you know the ones that like made to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► on like the metal one it's not metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► it's not plastic like here's that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► math happened like I know I could get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► what's the left underneath the square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► well that look worse than the sticker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► because the sticker for all its ugliness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► looks like a sticker right it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Energy Star logo that peel it often is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► bunch of like sticky crap or I damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► the plastic underneath the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► cheap plastic this is not an aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► if I damage it somehow or get sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► stuff in there that I can somehow can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► application of skin so soft on it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► by the way that's a secret for all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► out there if you get sticky crap from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► one of the many things that will remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► it i know there are many products but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► the one of the ones that I've used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► years is Avon skin so soft which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► was supposed to be a thing that softens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► the only thing i've ever used it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► takeoff sticker scope and it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► pleasanter oh my god why I i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► extent to which we will avoid talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► about the microsoft surface to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► no get there get there anyway energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► star sticker uh it's you know it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► to be ugly in some way and i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► don't like that semi circular or stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► on no no that was nice but it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► that energy star sticker that on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► monitors on the bottom right i have what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► appeared to be an identical one but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► you look at the stand and you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► its kind of tilted at a sort of not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► 45-degree angle like a 30 degree angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► maybe well mine was all the way on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► left on that stand and I let it sit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► a week or two before even noticed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► I was like all this crap in and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► what i did i immediately ripped it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► because I don't worry about things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► you do and there was no residue or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► there's residue I like rub data with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► thumb for a second that you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► if there's residue you probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► that I don't even see them in the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► picture of your mother I don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► energy star sticker anywhere I you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► right i don't see it either but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► yeah so anyway I'm i might make a run at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► sticker eventually just rip it off John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► it's like a band-aid just rip it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► yeah I all right speaking windows stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► we got a series of tweets from Jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► who is nerdy Oh phage on Twitter and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► tweeted uh five things I'll read them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► series he says I spent a week with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► macbook pro escape after two solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► decades of windows use I was of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► opinion that Marcos on a batch dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► of Oh of the OS of windows was equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► parts adoptive culture / fanboyism / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► I stand corrected in a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► humbled the windows the windows path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► from neophyte power users shaped by red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► registry at its decoder rings and secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► comparison feels inviting friendly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► intuitive like a late-night conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► at a dinner party with good friends so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► tldr this is still Jordan mac OS holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► transition costs will be very high but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► seriously considering it and this echoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► my experience in 2008 of switching from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► windows 2 20 s 10 at the time there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► two weeks where I doubted my life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► thought I'd made a terrible awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► horrible choice and then then I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► I'm not saying that Jordans experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► is true for everyone because now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► all just writing in telling us how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► Windows is good and we're a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► jerks and blah blah blah but they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► really listen to us as some do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► we still get emails i'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► this is true for everyone i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► windows isn't better in some way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► another but I am saying is that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► not the only girl here not the only ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► that seem to think that there's a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► way so just thought i'd share those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► series of tweets from Jordan so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► you jordan for writing us uh we had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► interesting conversation in slack Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► and I'd like to air agreements let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► back up to circa january maybe december [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► so almost a year ago now and the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► you but my recollection was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► mostly Marco we're saying you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► Casey you should never put personal crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► on your laptop on your work laptop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► should really have a nice powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► you probably shouldn't be ignoring Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► and using your laptop while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► sitting next to her on the couch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► know what you need you need my Mac I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► tried the laptop dance Casey it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► good it's no good man get the imac think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► about that 27-inch beautiful at 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► display with white color blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► i'm telling you it's the way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► this is there are some I've seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► picture with your summary already but go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► ahead but then fast forward to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► know a few days ago when Marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► talking in slack that private place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► we really shouldn't bring up publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► but here I am because I'm annoyed coach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► is talking into black and saying hmm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► know what maybe I'll get a new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► pro in a 5k display and i'll be back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► a one machine man again and I won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► have to have a stupid desktop anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► mm that's not okay okay so here's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► performance of everything and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► figuring a a potential and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► likely future that does not include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► mac pro existing and also includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► standalone 5k retina displays that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► not not matching but maybe ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► percent of the performance of imax or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► eighty percent of the performance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► imax i always say the reason I by the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► traveling I either need almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► in which case doesn't matter what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► haven't that left me there like you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► emails faster more like browse Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► or I'm doing serious work whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► xcode or like lightroom photo it raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► importing and stuff and editing either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► way like usually when i use a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► during travel I i want a lot of screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► space and I want a lot of horsepower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► I also now have an imac as my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► computer and looking at the specs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► these computers these days and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► compare you know comparing the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► MacBook Pros with LG 5k display you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► assuming it's good we don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► know yet but it will soon as good as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► probably is comparing that against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► imac you know basically I am maintaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► different computers with overall fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► similar hardware and fairly similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► performance and so I thought you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► what I probably should do but won't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► probably should do is stop having two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► similar respect max that I pay for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► and maintain and everything or just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► a case a top-of-the-line 15-inch macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► pro that I use like many people do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► next you know on my desk most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► time but then when I travel I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► take that with me and have all the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► of this maxed-out computer with me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► is what i should do it is not what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► doing that and maybe in the future i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► will do that you know you know me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► always change everything up never happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► so maybe in the future i will do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► think I really want to wait and see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► happens to the mac pro next year first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► you know if it turns out the mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► really dead and that the best weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► ever hope for in desktops is imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► hardware that's ten twenty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► the day then that might make a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► sense actually for me but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► handle the fan noise I guarantee it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► you just think about the imac also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► family that's the problem when as loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► well so so again i want to see the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► 15 inches first I want to know I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► have some experience with them hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► to see like you know is this really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► know how are these machines they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► did reduce the fan noise noticeably when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► symmetrical fan blades to the retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► macbook pro and 2012 when when Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► first talked about the asymmetric family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► they showed this show the waveform yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► it's not louder but it did the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► annoying this other Diana asymmetrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► really help with the annoying this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► turned into a white-noise thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► think it's still dark honest I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► annoyed that i can hear the imac at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► i'm annoyed at what I hear what i hear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► laptop going with the is having are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► new ones obviously but the asymmetrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► fan ones they still I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► sound of like a white noise generating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► machine yet neither do i and III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► like cc1 my imac fan spin up i consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► that like something that idea to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► headphones on right now and stop here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► this order to find the process that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► using all my cpu power and just kill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► because I I can i I really don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► it's simple as that so you know it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► macro is silent under load in most rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► and that's one of the reasons i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and that's one thing that will greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► miss if it is truly dead forever which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► you know again I i think it's looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► increasingly likely we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► happens next year but anyway so all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► was saying was it doesn't make a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► sense for me to maintain two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► fork or mid-range to high-end machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► from Apple when I occasionally need one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► on the road but most of the time it's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► it would make more sense to consolidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► into one computer and maybe even pull an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► imax I should be great and have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► laptops maybe I have that crazy one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► also a very small one like either an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► escape or macbook 144 the travel needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► during which i don't need a lot of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► and I just want to have the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► thing possible and that would hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► ever get upgraded but that is a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► because currently i'm still waiting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► the potential mac pro of the future so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► ATT says pointing out in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► that I should not forget that six core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► presumably you know in in the near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► future a six core imac would be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► i would really prefer more you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► isn't gonna upgrade from for I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► pick up where i want to go to eight or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► twelve even or even more if i can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► and so I'd be nice to have even more but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► you know we'll see again at this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► all depends on what the hardware brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► over the next year or two and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► Apple even makes computers that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► these chips are coming out we don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► know that so we'll see time will tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► but right now i am not going all laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► but all I was saying that if I were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► sensible it would probably be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► allocation of resources to just do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► which is probably the reason why so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► indeed I just wanted to grumble at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► publicly for a moment so I feel much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► better now thanks everyone responds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► betterment calm / ATP for investing made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► automated investing service out there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► independent managing more than 5.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► billion dollars for over a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► eighty thousand customers as of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► past September Betterman has changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► investing into making investing easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► financial advising services better it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2469">TS</a>]
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00:41:12 ◼ ► strategies the financial advisor is used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► with clients who have millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► dollars and you probably heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► them in the press such as the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► street journal Bloomberg and techcrunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► defense service industries embrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► platforms like betterment me that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► keep more of your money with fees that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► are a fraction of what you pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► traditional financial services excess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► cash that generator is automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► reinvested so every dollar you invest is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2495">TS</a>]
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00:41:40 ◼ ► automatically rebalance as necessary now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► investing involves risk but right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► you can get up to six month no six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► months of no fees by going to betterment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► / ATP that's betterment calm / ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► ah apple has released a new mac book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► things there's a new design book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► half of me thinks I'd really don't see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► problem with it and half of me thinks my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► word have they lost all sense of reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► and I haven't decided which ones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► did anybody see this coming I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► reasonable and to be expected thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► them to do in fact I'm surprised they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► don't do more of it i mean they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► they sell shirts with their things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► them they sell all sorts of merchandise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► but it's Apple that apple stuff on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► they they love having giant posters of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► all they're you know they're proud of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► their design and this particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► as sort of a capper to johnny is career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► at Apple like it makes total sense i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► don't i don't think it's all that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► there are a few things are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► about I mean first of all like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► t-shirts mugs everything you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► buy their company store or at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► conference so it like you can't just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► into any apple store go online and order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► an apple t-shirt like you like this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► of like a limited thing they keep only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► to like their store i'm assuming this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► will be limited to like how long do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► think they'll sell its gonna be selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► it for five years unless maybe maybe Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► Cook says you know we can keep selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► the same design book for 10 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► sure but like the other stuff is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► like a slight it's like a gift shop at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► museum like I went to apple 22 either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► WBC or to their campus and so I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► this expensive t-shirt because i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► there and that's that's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► more justifiable if you have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► this by the way I don't necessarily have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► a problem with this I i'm still I mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► indifferent on it i mostly don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► that exists i do think it shows a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► things worth worth considering you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► things like possible China of retirement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► overall though it seems poorly timed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► a time when Apple is being criticized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► for neglecting a lot of their product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► line and their new release is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► criticized for being especially poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► and they and they appear to have cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► Donald prices in an effort to show maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► they're not just trying to get a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► bunch of extra money from from accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► sales so is kind of an unfortunate time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► even if you ignore the election which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► but even if you ignore that this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► of a weird time for Apple to release an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► highfalutin to three-hundred-dollar book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► it's just it's a little bit poorly timed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► i think but it even if you don't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► with that he stepped aside I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► mostly fine i do think it it is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► many signs pointing to Johnny I've is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► probably not that far off departure or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► retirement from apple or middle just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► descend further into the clouds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► bizarre titles that that mean he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► actually do any day work but that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► be the same thing I don't know but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► not sure if I want one or not and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► might be one of the ideal customers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► it i buy stupid expensive things all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► time that I like apple stuff usually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► lot as i was looking at some of the some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► of the pages that they have on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► sample site and everything they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► kind of make me sad because they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► like like other store the sample show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► the mac mini case and and like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► big cutting wheel i'm sorry i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► the terms these various manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► tools like some giant spiky wheel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► presumably carves out part of the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► of the mac mini case and its really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► that you care so much about the mac mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► that people take this picture but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► machine that makes this case what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► the product that's been pretty neglected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► pretty badly or shit shows like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► a picture of the of the bottom assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► with the lid popping off of the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► generation non retina macbook pros like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► that might even be the one exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► it shows that the macbook pro bottom lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► taken off and you have the removable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► battery and you have the removable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► upgradeable hard drive is like oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► remember one laptops for upgradeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► easily repaired like Kate I i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► book would mostly just me he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► obviously about like about either either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► computers that Apple has neglected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► that I that I am sad about like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► or it features of computers that are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► longer present that have been cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► through the the marks of quote progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► over the years some of which is real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► progress I'm which is just cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► things so I i don't know how i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► about this for myself but if other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► people want to have this book and enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► it that's fine really i again i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► that releases poorly timed but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► than other than that I don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► a problem with it i think i'm mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► agree but I already have a copy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► just called iconic back and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► iconic somewhere I think too i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► the old apple design book from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► nineties it's called the let me check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► the island while you're checking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► there is one a pic i do want to I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► want to not forget about though and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► is so so Steve Jobs his name is all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► his name's all over the press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► their very prominently dedicated to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► and everything I I think enough people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► have said that I don't need to say too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► much about that it's questionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► approved this project and and used it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► will so that a lot of people keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► that this project was started eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► years ago and therefore that was back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► when Jobs alive and therefore he must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► have implicitly approved it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► not entirely clear when Johnny idea the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► collecting the products to photograph 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► years ago that doesn't mean they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► photographing for this specific project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► that was approved by jobs eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► ago so I do want to make that clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► I don't we don't know that jobs new this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► at all and I think I can't imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► he would have appreciated it but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► you know it's always risky for protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► people like us to say well Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► wouldn't have done this wouldn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► this because you don't really know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► guy change his mind a lot and he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► here anymore to to refute it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► it's not a great thing to rest on but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► but i do think plastering his name all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► dedicated to him it's not like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► trying to like you know build on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► the image to make to sell this book like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► the book sells that itself on its merits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► dedicated to the memory of their friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► I think that's fine and if we can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► one thing about this book it is steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► jobs would like to have it in his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► whether or not he thinks it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► product apple should sell I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► you he would love to have this book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► would sit there on his his couch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► his bare feet and leave through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► look at the great work that he's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► whether anything is an example should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► selling is a whole other story where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► example should have a museum of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► old stuff is a hold of the story but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► products that are in this thing that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► himself just personally would surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► photographs on the best possible paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► made in germany with them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► special gilding around the edges and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► would love this book this you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► really cool thing to make for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► employees you know or or to maybe sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► for a limited time at your campus store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► but to sell it as like a whole product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► that I think it kind of raises the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and raises the level of criticism a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► a little bit of an unnecessarily maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► but you know because like I think will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► be a lot cooler if this was a thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► all the employees Vegas all got for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► we probably aren't even getting for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► particular always work but imagine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► they gave us to all the employees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► the handful of Apple collectors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► really want it would have to like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► find on eBay or something that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► so much cooler if you had one if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► was the case it i don't know is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► seems like that might have been a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► yeah I tend to agree so I just reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► out into the bookcase behind me and grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► my copy of iconic and i started paging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► through it and I landed on page 130 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► iconic and it has a quote which i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► read to you if you never change anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► then what what you can really engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► kind of incremental but when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► willing to change things then you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► of open up a whole new world of design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► this is Big Bob Mansfield at the launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► of 2012 macbook pro in the accompanying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► picture is a macbook pro that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► magsafe ethernet firewire Thunderbolt 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► USB ports in SD card slot line in ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► on Jack just thought that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► funny that's pretty cool so yeah so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► you're willing to change things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► open up a whole new world of design like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► fewer ports so the book next to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► called apple design all one word capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► capital D colon the work of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► industrial design group and it's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► is an older book so it's got the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► from before you guys are Mac users it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► well i can expand the whole range but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► anyway it's definitely earlier than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► stuff that's in this book and i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► say i would like to own this book to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► would totally like this book but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► like two or three jobs where at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► point because and here's what here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► thing like it's not three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► dollars for a really super high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► photo book is that big a deal it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► that for me personally with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► playstation 4 pro and also other stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► would spend three hundred dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► this if it was like the making of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► star wars books that i bought which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► the way Warren $300 like basically if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► was lots more words now that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► like the pictures i do i want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► pictures but if it was the pictures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► also pages upon pages upon pages of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► designers including John himself telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► the story of how they came up with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► designs in as much detail as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► possibly remember again like the making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► of the star wars books which are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► first-person accounts but it's like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► research and talk to all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► involved and tried to lay out here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► each of the three original trilogy star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► wars we just made from conception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► through the production design talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► all the people involved in getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► quotes from them and putting it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► that's what i would like to read and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► impression is this book is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► entirely or at least mostly pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► not so much about Apple's gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► I mean I'm sure lots of pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► prototypes and you know like things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► a tool that Marco talk about whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► but it's not really like tell us how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► you come up with this is I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► read that but that is not that simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► and what I'm saying is basically those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► those words were in this book i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► pay 300 dollar store in a second but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► just the photos I i have a longing to on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► this book but cannot bring myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► part with Randy dollars were quite yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► maybe maybe I'll break down into how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► long they sell this maybe I'll succumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► really do want this book i mean i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► tons of books like this but both range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► of dollars that stuff and no i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► want the small one because come on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► nothing why are there two sizes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► that's such a good thing just making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► sure they should have called the big 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► plus some people want a larger obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► the big one is huge i like the big 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► think I'm think about if I had that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► my house how the hell would I even fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► on my shelves i don't think i even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► any shelves at the making of star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► books are a little bit too big for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► shelves too but you know it's photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► come on you gotta get the big yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► just gotta say this iconic book I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► forgotten page through a long time man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► is this a nice book it really honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► is and its cheapness like 50 bucks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► amazon right now it's definitely worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► it i wonder if i can get the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► rep discount ok fifty percent of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► threw a book at my apple ibook is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► next to the art of kiki's delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► service the complete works of Larry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► lot more but also i have a higher or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► astoria legend of zelda book all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► which are about the same size big kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► of glossy photo book things but none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► which costs three hundred dollars now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► mean it's you know people who know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► about art books are end you know as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► said John like the I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► outrageously priced for what it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► it certainly doesn't contribute it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► certainly doesn't help the the recent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► possibly forever reputation of apple for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► expensive things that only for rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► people like that's this doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► help that image at all in this really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► don't know again this is not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► i don't feel that strongly about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► book either way I might even buy one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► knows but i do think it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► poorly timed for for image sake I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► and see the weird thing about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► is its i like the idea that Apple itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► is the one doing it because it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► as iconic is the apples line books or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► whatever Apple presumably I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► would think they would have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► all the stuff apparently they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► have to go out and buy it or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► but either way like they was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► at taking pictures of its products they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► have the most experience of anybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► the entire world taking pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► apple products because that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► do and they do it really really well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► because they're all obsessive detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► people about like the printing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► color in the paper I bet it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► nice book right but the one thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► Apple can bring to this book above and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► beyond those two things that i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► is that they have the best access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► people who were involved in making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► some of those people may be gone all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► those supposedly there's very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► turnover and Johnny absolutely design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► group there that's the value they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► bring this was the whole I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► getting a market like apples making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► book about how great their right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► making a book about themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► saying we are awesome or just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► all these cool things that we made which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► i guess is ok but if you want a blunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► that it's like don't just make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► at these awesome things that we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► bring the value that only you have tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► us the stories people who worked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► tell us about how you made them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► no one else can tell us how they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► them other people can take pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► them other people can make a big glossy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► photo book other people can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► find the right kind of paper and do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► cool printing and do all the things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► nobody but you guys can tell us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► story of how these products are made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► they're not doing that so they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► saying how great they are but like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► I don't want to tell you too much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► it just look at the stuff we're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► great huh don't nevermind that was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► and that's that definitely shades more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► into the event that makes it less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► self-congratulations because if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► you're not just congratulating yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► even if the whole book is like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► heart problems then we solve them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► because you're super smart you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► passing on your knowledge your telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► the rest of the world learn from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► lessons which you can still do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► lot of ego and you know back padding but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► i think that would offset the look how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► great we are angle of it and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► you said and I can only goes like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► like we talked about with the actual the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► the new macbook pros the past several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► shows it's not so much the thing itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► introduced and so like Marcus at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► timing is bad and at this point almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► anything you introduced into the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► of a certain set of grumpy Apple fans is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► going to be looked upon with the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► know a very critical eye and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► generally in a bad mood for reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► are made some which may be outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► apples control whatever like if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► been if they've been building towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► fine whatever release it like a holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► season it's a good gift idea for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► Apple nerd in your life you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► that I don't fault them i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► I just wish it wasn't three dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► because I really want this book I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► know and one thing like I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► nailed it about like that you know part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► of this number of people the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► is the fact that there is there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► no words or as you said like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► that they have access to the people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► could have added the human more human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► function and it seems like they mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► haven't read the book yet but from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► few sample pages we've seen it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► does seem like they didn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► there's no words in it and i think if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► had to summarize I i guess the the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► disappoint when I have with apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► recently which i think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► feel but might not have put into words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► is that it seems to just lack humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► recently like it and I don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► might be a Steve too Tim thing i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► know i haven't given a ton of thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► this year it's hard to put into words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► but you know Steve even though we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► he could be like cold and ruthless to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► people when he had to be his public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► persona which which really did reflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► upon the whole company you know to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► public was really quite warm and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► transition to Tim Cook sample and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► jony ive's apple which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► that's really this is what this is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► Apple that the public image that we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► even though most of the same people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► still there but the public image that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► shown to us what gets out there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► more cold and they're like the humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► has been stripped out of it and as and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► think part of what bug people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► things like removing the startup chime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► on a new macbook pros and removing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► lineup logo on the back is like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► little bit more of this humanity to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► being pulled out of the products and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► we don't see warmth and humanity as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► as we used to anymore you know a promo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► video showing what people are doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► the product is different its you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► I I do i do think its humanity i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► we do i would say you don't think whimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► is a better word because the wind is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► Cook is much more into you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► human aspects are social aspects of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► the products and the company then Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Jobs ever was and tim cook in the Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► Cook era he's the one who's constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► starting presentations with videos about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► accessibility and people who are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► you know he's a human story of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► empowered by apple products i would call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► that human too but whimsical is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► we're like it is dorky maybe hit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► know it wimzie's just like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► little happy mac and and and the child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► little happy mac and and and the child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and then a little poof animation stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► silly things like that seem to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► too Jony Ive's taste because he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► into the proof right he's not into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► this happy Mac the smile and the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► he's into the the iphone that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► even have a logo that you can see when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► you look at it right and Tim Cook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► deferring to drive in that way so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► think you're right to refer to the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► cook / Jony ive apple so there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► definitely less sense of whimsy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► whimsy can be seen as warmth in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► design is that it can be thought of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► cold but I think Tim Cook's apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► Tim Duncan specific specifically are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► about humanity just not about darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► yeah it's I'm not again i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► that like the company like because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► know the same people are mostly they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► right especially look at the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► levels not a lot of change their they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► need a week we know that they do good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► these are good people and they do good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► things for the world but you did doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► the the amount of warmth and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► know and maybe humanity might be exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► what I do think whimsies partner but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► don't think whimsy covers all of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► well what about the ads like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► show their a lot of their recent ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► have been all about showing people using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► the product remember the one with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► the kid with his nose buried in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► phone during the holidays Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► thing at the end he's made the video of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► them making this stuff like or just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► the people who are like with your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► you get up as early in the morning it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► still dark calculates the sneakers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► put on your watch is not running or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► you're running through the rain with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► your now water-resistant phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► they're adds even more than they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► had been less about glorifying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► technology as like look how smooth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► sleek is which they still doing like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► presentations to hospital on television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► it's all about the people it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► I am a runner i like to take photographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► i'm on a family vacation and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► come by this device in your kid will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► it will look like a socket into really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► he will be loving wonderful creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► child which is false advertising but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► anyway I'm here to suck and won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► actually make a video for you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► texting his friends although not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► like we add seem to be focusing on again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► the humanity of uh like that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► about the people and what the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► enable the people to do so and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► that's you know Apple choose what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► of adds an extra the advertising company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► makes them but Apple can give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► direction and it is less like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► know in the steve jobs are you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► series of commercials that were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► about showing you the card the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► like the lifesavers imax flying across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► the screen look they're shiny and color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► and look at the on the imac SE came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► it's all sleep in graphite he liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► those were more obsessed obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► the objects because that was all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► like hey hardware can be fashioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► look at these things and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► started to shift with the ipod where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► like yeah there's silhouettes dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► and you can see the ipod with the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► cord but it's all about people dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► and music and at this point they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► selling phones by showing you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► jogging right so it is so far from i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► think it is definitely a very human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► approach but again i would say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► product designs themselves and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► definitely seem less whimsical and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► dorky and I could see that is being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► more cold unless more the ads you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► you're right the a defined but their ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► their commercials you know you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► i'm referring to mostly the products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► then some also of the presentations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► know by the actual humans on stage at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► the events you know so again it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► hard to to not make this about Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► because steve was really good at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► really being you know personable up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► rehearsed or or fake or real or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► I don't know it didn't matter its see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► really did come across as genuine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► real and and warm and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► missed both onstage I don't care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► the videos the the use of more videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► actually to me feels colder i feels more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► artificial but you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► beside the point for now at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► saying is I i miss this level of warmth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► that that we used to get from them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► these presentations and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► that the whimsy and the product is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► of that I you know that showed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► product and it seems like modern apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► is all about really editing that out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► simplifying or quote progress but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► we're losing a lot of that and where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► don't seem to be gaining any in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► areas anymore it seems like we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► coming just moved on past that and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► now it's just a lot more like cold and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► and almost robotic so this book coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► out with all pictures of Johnny I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► robotic tools in stark white background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► with no words i think is kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► culmination of of that cold process and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► at that's what kind of rubs me the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► way about about the book and about apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► today if I had to summarize it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► again i I'm sorry if I'm not expressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► this well this is really still a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► you know squishy thought in my head but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► just I'm trying to put into feel it put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► into words a complex feeling lemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► filling over a while but I just miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► that warmth that we used to that we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► to get whether it was real or not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► from both Steve and the products that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► think we're really missing a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► recently so if you were to get this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► and it was chronological which i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► sure that is but if it is chronological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► you could flip through it and watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► whimsy slowly draining out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► products that you started with tangerine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► imax and all these brightly colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► things that it like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► toilet but see I books and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► things that just look so exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► everything turned silver and glass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► uniform and not shiny not mad just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► between e and you know just it smooths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► out which I you know I like both those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► athletics is why I think like this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► is this book highlights some of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► best work in terms of industrial design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► because it does include all away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► you know the the the the vibrancy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► original imax and even like the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► the big neck and all the stuff all way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► up to the modern era of everything being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► sleek and clean those are both great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► aesthetics but chronologically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► you know you can see the trend i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► read the book backwards and make myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► benjamin button it but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► I think I'm i agree with you Marco I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► just can't shake this feeling that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► is reluctantly moving closer and closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► to being the IBM that they fought so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► hard against when when you and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► let's not go crazy here well no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► think they're there but if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► the IBM of the early to mid eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► probably ladies it was not boring but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► certainly did not have whimsy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► would not say that Apple's products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► they're boring many such an imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► but i agree that they've lost some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► that and I actually think humanity is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► is a good word for it if a bit overblown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► but I can't come up with a better one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► and i think i like humanity more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► wednesday but anyway it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► feel as happy go lucky as they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► and I think part of that is being is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► no longer being the underdog is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► being king of the hill which maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► maybe it's that because we perceive them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► as king of the hill we perceive them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► boring and they're anything but but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► don't know i don't i don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► the case in and i agree with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► it's funny because on the one side I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► love the look of the new macbook pro at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► least in in photographs i haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► one in person yet but in in photographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► I i love it i think it looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► great and I think that's in part because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► you know a very black aesthetic appeals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► to me but yet I i miss the fun of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► these different colored imax you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► the computers that is all running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► campus when I was in school in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► two thousands they just looked fun and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► wouldn't say a new macbook pro looks fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► it looks really damn good it looks more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► aesthetically good I'd say than perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► any other laptop on the market today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► in fact I've said before and I'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► again this iphone 7 holding in my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► right now that this matte black iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► i think is the best-looking iphone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► seen yet however i wouldn't say it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► fun despite it looking really good and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► fact yeah and this and i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► products are in many ways better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► ever now you know like by most measures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► most of the products are better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► they're still good products in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► they're still great products but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► again just like it's this feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► I'm missing that I'd that we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► have here and maybe I'm just old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► jaded and boring i I don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► I'm just mad with the mac pro still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► don't know but but this I I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► like I'm missing this feeling I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► well I am old and jaded but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► jaded about mac pro specifically an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► and I'm not jaded at about the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► pro specifically and I i do largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► agree with you that it just it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► fun as it once was and again maybe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► that just by virtue of them being no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► longer the underdog so so you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► it's fun to root for the underdog it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► not fun to root for the king of the hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► so maybe it's misplace maybe the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► nevertheless I think the design trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that is described from the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► whimsical computers that varied more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► widely in shape and color and texture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► and everything about them to the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► design is a natural consequence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► advance of the technology because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► acquire the technology to to to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► products that we have now that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► in the case of I devices are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4198">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► rectangles that are screens that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► increasingly thin and for the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► laptops a screen rectangle and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► increasingly large trackpad your options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► for industrial design uh start to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► conflict with the advances that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► you know the reaping the benefits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► actually be able to make it smaller like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► if you look at the size of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► plastic that surrounds the screen on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► toilet seat imax it is its vast right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► cool-looking strange oblong kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► person like design and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► gives you the room to make those big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► scoops and colors and contrast but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► is no there's no more room for that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► world where it's basically a screen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► the margin slowly shrinking around it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► like the laptops is you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► thinner and thinner and smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► tighter and tighter and you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► fight that the correct direction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► meeting Tuesday embrace that and embrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► increasingly smelt devices and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► get another reason to add to the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► why the mac pro be great because the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► pro it does not have a screen on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► you do have the freedom to make it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► they can make it shaped like a soccer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► apparently can be shaped like garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► can be shaped like a cheese grater it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► actually gives them the most options in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► terms of industrial design because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► are no longer constrained by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► that you have to carry it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► making it smaller and thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► lighter is such a benefit in the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► run that they can't afford to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► giant plastic handle on it and a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► three inch border around the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► screen because that's ridiculous like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► one wants that anymore its it looks old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► and it is old and it's bad but when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4294">TS</a>]
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01:11:40 ◼ ► just another reason that it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► shame if they totally gave up that form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► factor or if they said even that form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► factor you wanted to be its small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and minimal as possible and so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► get the current mac mini in the apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► which are just the most you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► and it's not appropriate I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► those things to be only the apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4315">TS</a>]
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01:11:58 ◼ ► even see it but the mac mini you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4318">TS</a>]
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01:12:02 ◼ ► some events and strikes on and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► look like a Ferrari I don't know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► was no reason for it to be as boring as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► it is but there are reasons for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► phone to be as boring as it is and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► the laptop speed not as boring like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► them to look like a do I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► very good reason to do that I think have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► to hit that they had tried to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► old aesthetic while going along with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► market technology that allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► make it thinner and lighter it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► a bad tension between those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4343">TS</a>]
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01:12:31 ◼ ► right design approach back then it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4351">TS</a>]
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01:12:34 ◼ ► current ones and make them in candy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► apple red with the same form factor make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4357">TS</a>]
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01:12:52 ◼ ► know tailfins on the next iPad pro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4372">TS</a>]
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01:14:09 ◼ ► the covers not just a huge range but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4449">TS</a>]
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01:15:41 ◼ ► time talking about this Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► Surface studio and I think that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► should probably talk about the Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► switch we don't actually have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► but I couldn't sell it we should return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► to the surface to do first in fact it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► been it's been so long since the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► studio event whatever that was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► think we need the chief summarizer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► chips to remind everyone what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► the Microsoft Surface video is hosted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► the to summarize in chief doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► remember any more like I can get as so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► this was i don't recall exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► was but it was a few weeks ago that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► microsoft had some sort of product demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► where they debuted the surface studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► which at first appear to be an imac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► many ways it just seemed like an imac an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► imac but well I guess I should say my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► mac mac mini right because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► screen of an imac it appeared it's 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► inches and this in the computer bits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► in a base that looks very much like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► mac mini it's all black and aluminum or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► at least aluminum colored and it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► looks very snazzy and i don't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► sarcastically really honestly does look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► good and at first it was like okay great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► you're doing i'm a clue but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► oh this is a touchscreen a 28 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► touchscreen and suddenly people start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► mm okay tell me more I and then the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► party trick happened which was microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► explained why there are two arms going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► and those arms allow you from what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► showed allow you to very effortlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► turn this imac into kind of an easel so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► it's a day very very shallow angle such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► that you could use it as though it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► writing surface and it has with it their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► equivalent of an apple pencil and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► more importantly it has or maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► it also has a surface dial and so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► this is is a little puck sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► it's actually not on that dissimilar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► from the park mouse that everyone hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4674">TS</a>]
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01:17:58 ◼ ► your desk and you can spin it in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► different you know tools as you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► the pen but where it gets even cooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4685">TS</a>]
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01:18:09 ◼ ► this hinge that they have genuinely is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4689">TS</a>]
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01:18:24 ◼ ► that is another control surface so in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► the way that the naked robotic core is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► the like most pure realization of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► what somebody would want for a computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► device you know that that was what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► would want for an iphone i think not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► that this is a naked robotic or but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► realization of what Microsoft hopes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► for this world that to me is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► bizarro where you have a touch-based or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► touch permitted if nothing else desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► OS so Microsoft strategy for many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► now with its windows thing especially as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► the windows phone stuff has been fading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► has been to have a single OS for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► their platforms and because that single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► OS as part of its family tree is phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► and tablet devices that of course it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► supports touch which is why you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► touch in windows with you know windows 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► that started and there the windows 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► now and so they've been changing windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► to be an interface that you can use with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► the mouse and keyboard you can use with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► a pen you can use with your fingers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► I've been doing this for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► and to varying results i know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► people have the microsoft surface tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► product that is basically like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► use like a pc with a keyboard attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► to because it's got a hinge thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► can use it kind of like a tablet if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► you're using like a laptop you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► just poke your finger at the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► which I'm sure we've all seen this many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► people just expect to be able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► especially younger people or anyone even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► just use a touch device for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► they'll switch from an environment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► they're using a tablet or phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► laptop and instinctively touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► screen i know i used to do with candles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► before the touchscreen candles because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► spent so much time with iPads I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► touch the screen to try to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► on the kindle and of course nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► would happen because they were totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► inert like there was no this is before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► the touch-sensitive ones it is natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► to get into that habit and Microsoft has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► built his entire interface strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► around the idea that all form of input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► are welcome then it should be supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► they've been changing they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► changing windows do not require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► perfectly precise mouse pointer or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► a stylist to do things to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► bigger chunkier controls and gestures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► and stuff like that and this service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► studio is the biggest this has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► because previously was like you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► tablets and you got these convertible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► laptop eat things that are like a tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► with the keyboard and yeah of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► can touch the screen and and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► the pen input and all that stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► this is like 20 inches like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► a big table this is a full size bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► than most people have is most people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► not have 28 inch screens on their pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► full-size personal computer running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► Windows doesn't pretend to be a tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► you can't take it off and carry like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► tablet it's not a big phone like it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► personal computer how that has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► normal inputbox you would want including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► a pen but then also accepts not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► touch but like stop thinking of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► like I'm touching the screen but more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► like removing in direction because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► the mouse and keyboard or indirect input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► devices and their their wonderful input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► especially the mouse i feel like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► least in directive in direct input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► devices because if you use the mouse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► any appreciable amount of time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► interaction disappears very quickly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► don't feel like you're driving the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► vs like say you had a joystick you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► joystick you would feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► pressure around the screen like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► little car to get the things you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► basically feel like you're grabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► things on the screen and yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► indirect you're not touching it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► as direct as touching the screen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► anyone who uses an ipad or iphone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► it's not that kind of direct but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► like really good video game controls in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► that very quickly disappears and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► stop thinking about the control and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► start thinking about the task but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► ultimate direct input is like literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► direct input as in you see something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► you manipulated on the screen with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► hands and your fingers or your pen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► something that involves putting marks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► a piece of paper or shuffling things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► around put marks on the piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► or shuffle things around like do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► don't move something that moves another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► thing on a screen that represents the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► things you're moving around just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► right on that screen and this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► tilting down to like a drafting table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► type you know angle saying like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► you're not doing text input you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► writing a program but instead you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► doing anything having to do with visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► keyboard and mouse for now and just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► right on that screen it's a huge screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► just get right down there you gotta pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► you got your fingers you got the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► daily thing i can imagine them adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► more types of tools so that that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► is the culmination of their strategy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► allowing all forms of input by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► here's a form of input that not only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► we accept all forms impetigo you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► decide you should concentrate on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► it's kind of weird to type and then use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► a mouse but also touchscreen make remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► my click on the button of the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► person I'm touching my finger my drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► pen what am i doing there are many tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► in which directly interacting with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► gigantic screen is the best interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► into the task where you put aside all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► those other tools and say I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► get right to it and obviously there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► short like artists like that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► obvious one and this is their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► crack at this so maybe it's not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► people said that this too much parallax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► because your pen is too far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► like where the pixel are and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► there's lag and some of the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► but I really feel like this is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► inevitably the the future of digital art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► whether Microsoft is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► but like we've gone through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► thing of using you know using mice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► using you know tablets that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► direct input device to do the wacom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► cintiq which is like a tablet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► also screen it's like just just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► going because people love all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► tools and get used to those tools but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► generation with the expectation that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► do your artwork on a giant 28 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► monitor by directly manipulating it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► that's going to win in the end with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► somebody else and Microsoft getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► their first is it's nice to see even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► this is a product is not great and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► should be worrying to apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► apple doesn't have anything to compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► with this like at all and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► Apple can say we really believe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► future of doing digital art is using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► cintiq because apple doesn't make those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► we really believe the future part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► using a mouse or doing everything on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► know they have ipads all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► where's your 28 inch iPad that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► that you need to plug into the wall like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► whatever happens going to do i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► saying they have to make max touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► or anything but if they care at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► creative arts that involve drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► things even things from like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► imagine cat architectural drawings not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► just fine arts and and illustration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► stuff like that they need to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► something about this and I was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► excited when I can't with the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► probes like yeah that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► talking about you need a really big ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► and go back to listen all those shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► from years and years ago I think at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► drafting table thing I think we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► about it on this very podcast but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► microsoft made it before Apple did Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► did make their ipad bigger but it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► long time to do it and they didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► it bigger bigger and the idea of an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► I remember being laughed at perhaps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► the show craft all that was like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► the hell's the point an ipad we can move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► this is the thing so I'm super-proud of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► microsoft for making this I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► keep at it i hope they don't say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► not a lot of people because i guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► you now people are going to buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► because it's really expensive and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► like the first generation product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► you know truth be told most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► do fine arts in our computer right but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► think this is the right idea for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► and if Apple cares about that class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► problems with Apple cares about keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► those creatives and I think to totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► think they should because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► another branch of sort of the founding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► creative professionals they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► start putting the air pump into those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► ipads and cranking up pronto because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► they don't someone else is gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► do you have any idea how much I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► Reebok pumps as a kid my goodness I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► you know I don't know I i really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► really admire this like you said John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► also think that this solves a class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► problems that i just don't have which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► which I mean you kind of set as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► i have a slack team that I mean that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► handful of people that are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► current or former employees of my last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► employer the consulting gig and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► actually when I feel like we have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► cyclical conversations and one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► is 0 are touchscreen devices stupid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► and since most of these people are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► windows developers most of them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► touchscreen windows laptops and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► them swear all my god case you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► idea it's so good and that very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► could be the case may be it is that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► but having used a handful of touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► laptops admittedly very very briefly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► have yet to really have it click I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► yet to say how oh yeah this does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► sense and may be given given a fair shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► maybe it would but I don't feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► want a touchscreen computer to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► with and now you're saying well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► wouldn't she want you why not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► touchscreen imac if I was an artist heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► nay no thanks it's a cool thing to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► at you don't want to touch screen laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► like when you phrase it that way like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► who wants to want to touch me I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► think people find themselves compelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5278">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► such a screen but no like those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► touchscreen laptop it is a tablet with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► keyboard apple makes one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► already it's called the ipad it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► that's not the ipad is not a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► laptop it is a tablet that comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► the keyboard and using what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► difference well they're both they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► both basically the same in use like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► they're open to the same angle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► keyboard horizontally and a screen kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► of vertically and yes you can touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► different ways like well when i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► using with my hands just not bad but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► monitor typing i use the keyboard like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► don't know what you want to call that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► but phrasing it as a lap top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► keyboard sounds like I want to poke my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► finger is it's not comfortable as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► Apple's point a million times to to poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► a vertical screen is better to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► indirect input devices but i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► looking at the wrong way he's taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► old the old thing and saying I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► the whole thing and modifying by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► touchscreen when we take the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► which is a tablet and modified by adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► back a keyboard everyone's okay with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► and it's basically the same result and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► this thing the surface to do i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► like this is not a touchscreen laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► this is also not a touchscreen I'm max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► I'm max doesn't lay down on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► for you like there's no way he'll you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► got in touch screen time that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► draw on it on an imac the thing doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► go until it's like 15 degrees and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► of them are you know it's close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► straight up and down the whole time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► is not the service to do the key feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► the surface to do that says when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► want to do the thing like just like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► iPad when you just want to use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► an iPad you don't need the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► the services like when you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► stuff doesn't involve text input at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► like a drawing a picture and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► manipulating lines are things in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► or whatever and you don't have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► the keyboard lay the whole thing down I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► think like in the pictures they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► like laying down on top of the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► like you doing that see the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► it's not there anymore it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► the same way the keyboard goes away when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► you use your iPad like I'm not using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► keyboard part of my ipad now i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► using the ipad part of it and that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► a portable contacts this is the just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► simply the desktop equivalent of that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► i'm not sure what you want to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► and it is weird that Apple's most likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► response to this would have to be iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► device and not a mac which is strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► because as we talked about in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► Apple's thus far their inability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► really get pro level applications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► flourish on iOS devices whereas there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► still kind of doing okay on the mac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► that's apples challenge to solve but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► understand like writ large universe into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► manipulation of her task that required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► on a big gigantic awesome screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► only way that's not going to happen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► if a CRNA our advanced to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► this approach never has a chance to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► in you know there's never had this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► in the Sun because they are NVR if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► get good enough make having a big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► thing that lights up in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► like archaic but I feel like there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► be a time before AR and VR get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► gigantic touch screens and lay down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► front of you and when i'm super old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► I'm you know doing computing stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► doesn't involve typing i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► have a big gigantic gorgeous screen lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► down for me so that I can do stuff on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► and also have a keyboard when I do text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► input and also have to be to recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► also have a bunch of things like pens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► I'm ready for the Microsoft service to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► probably also not a Microsoft you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► one thing you mentioned a briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► earlier John is like if they stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► this and that's because of Microsoft you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► know they throw a lot of spaghetti at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► the wall they they change strategies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► often the end and they change desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► initiatives often this product line like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► many other things Microsoft just tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► in recent years might not be good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► for them i might not sell well and offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► it might not get a software support it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► won't sell enough but like you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► see this is as a like the trend like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► they've spent all these years making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► single OS that accepts all these kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► of input like that's not like a fluke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► that's not like that's what they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► doing and that's what gives them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► option to do things like this I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► like this like that is is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► culmination of years and years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► of work you can't make this on day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► you have to do all the work to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► unified windows it does all the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► input to change the windows you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► even be usable with touch to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► device that has a pen that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► looks like a laptop of the touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► you have to do years and used that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► before you can make this thing so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► like it's not a fluke sticking with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► merely means maybe they were retreat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► from making their own pcs like maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► retreat back to the surface or retreat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► back to tablet or phone sighs things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► get out of the business entirely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► just do microsoft azure and the license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► windows the climate because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► know but I don't I I don't think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► they're going to say I actually touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► the screen is not a big deal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► they just spent so long coming to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► I feel like they worked hard to to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► able to produce a machine like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► this one won't sell well enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► significant but i think i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► they will take a second and third crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► of it and I think of the best microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► to think of it pains me as I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► head of the company that made the xbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► which was a gigantic you know ugly piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► of crap but they stuck with it and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► new xbox they made it has been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► than the previous one and at first i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► a really good system but I mean like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► no I i think just because they they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► built in all this all this capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► for things like touch and pen input you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► know if if you would have looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► TV market five years ago you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► thought that 3d TVs were just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► everybody wanted and they were taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► off like crazy and the novel never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► thought that obviously the future of TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► was going to be 3d but it because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► look at every TV every high-end to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► mid range TV you could buy in a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► they were all 3d supported TVs but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► practice that the reason that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► was being put there was because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► stagette industry was trying to add more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► hardware things to make people upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► because they weren't upgrading their TVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► fast enough so Microsoft i'm putting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► all this crazy capability and stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► the service line all the different input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► method and everything else it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► necessarily mean that everyone is using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► them or that or that this will be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► people how people use their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► microsoft computers in the future it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► might turn out that way but just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► the capabilities there just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► Microsoft is building all this support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► and everything is building this hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► that doesn't mean that pc users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► going to meaningfully adopted the again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► they might but that's not a foregone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► conclusion now is that it's not PC users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► that are spying this it is creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► professional specifically which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► tiny market and out of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► they're not going to buy it because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► is like this is like you trying to enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► a market that another another company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► owns or like they're there is already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► way to set way to do things and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► some people are going to try it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► professionals are the least likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► change their ways even if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► already using a Microsoft Windows PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► with a tablet whether it's a cintiq or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► just a plain old tablet even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► people aren't gonna buy the surface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► do except for on a lark or to be curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► about it because they're set in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► ways using the Microsoft Windows PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► running adobe photoshop with the tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► and they've been doing that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► career and that's what they like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► maybe the curious about this but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► not a big deal but the thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► future is this is if they stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► and keep selling this even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► they're not making money on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► eventually i think the market will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► around to it because people who start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► out new might be interested in and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► it out and they never got used to using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► uh you know an online up tablet or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► people use antiques might view this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► better cintiq until they try to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► like this antique is a little better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► visit all these buttons on that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► used to and so that's what it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► a long road and that the other x factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► is that people don't like windows or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► some people don't happen the way or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► and so those people who don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► windows are going to be like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► looks great and all but I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► Windows i'm not going to do that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► professionals who are using Mac's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► example i use photoshop on a mac with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► the wacom tablet or whatever like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► even just talking to see the tweets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► dr. wave on on Twitter like is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► perfect pixar it's like well actually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► picks are people who have these giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► tablets drawn to do their 3d work there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► on like articulated arms and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► non-starter for this thing to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► beyond a simple hinge that goes on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► like that this is just one product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► that it doesn't is not as flexible as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► the products they're already using and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► they already have a system that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► and so this may be novel and interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► but it's not it doesn't work for pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► are right but this is this is early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► this is a single product from a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► company with lots of caveat that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► associated with it so i'm not i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► going to say that this is going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► microsoft the king of the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► professionals but they do have a head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► iterating on this product in this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► and this concept for years and years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► years and keep going with this whole OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► strategy with touch and maybe make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► Windows little bit nicer and the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► and no one else does anything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► who else is there is like linux is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► to take over the creative professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► basically at this point and if apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► doesn't move it gives Microsoft time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► try and fail and try and fail and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► again eventually they'll get pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► decent and now basically win by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► if Apple never makes an ipad bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► 12.5 inches and never makes it back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► thanks 143 sponsors this week betterment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► audible and square space and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► you wanna talk about salads ago and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► sorry that's not how you pronounce that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► I had time to research this news broke a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► couple hours before we started recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► that Sal's to go in who he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► the kind of product manager the head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► of mac OS automation technologies so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► that would include things like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► script Apple events automator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► apparently he has he has been let go of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► Apple his position has been eliminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► so that basically it sure seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► Apple is no longer going to have a head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► of automation of of apps on Mac OS and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► lot of longtime mac users are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► this news to be possibly a pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► do we wanna talk about this i mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► haven't had time to look into it much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► liked it I know it and I know Sal from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► sessions I've seen with them and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► met him in person a couple times a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► trade remember me but yeah i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► sure i have to he looks very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► yeah he knows people you recognize their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► couple aspects that one is it Sal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► just a very nice gregarious charismatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► smart person he's got charisma UCM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► especially if you're a nerd and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► like attracted to smart people right who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► are interesting and dynamic and have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► opinions and can express them well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► that's out so people who are longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► Apple fans and who have you know knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► him professionally or by reputation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► buy his products or presentations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► sad to see somebody that everybody liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► not be at the company right that so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► that's not you know unquestionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► aspect of this entire thing because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► he was a jerk that everybody hated this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► would not be as big a story right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► then the other part is what you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► said about automation automation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► mac which people too short to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► Oh Sally is that Apple script guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► a reasonable summary of him if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► to go there there's much more to it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► that you can read all the stuff one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► a website that will put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► show notes it's not just Apple script is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► also shell scripting and apple events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► that Apple scripting is based on you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► do it also different languages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► there's the the tooling and involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► with that even as recently as like last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► year the year before that they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► had like a library / framework support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► applescript libraries and use them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► it was kind of stuck in amber for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► time not really getting any better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► not really getting any worse but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► still an essential part of so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► professionals workflows like they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► use Apple script to automate the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► that they did and it was important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► them for their professional applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► that were using to have apple script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► automator and in you know in the US 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► age was this other thing like regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► people design sets of actions without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► having to be programmers you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► automatically that you string together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► do this and do that and do that without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► having to like learn languages even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► languages as simple as Apple script and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► I don't know enough about the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► arrangement but it could just be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► like the division has merged for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► other division there was another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► that Apple likes better who's setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► that division so he's out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► person is in but it could also be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► and this would totally fit with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► recent moves and hasn't collecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► mac pro and having difficulty making pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► apps and canning aperture and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► the stuff that they see using our users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► creating automations win anything even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► environment whether it be HyperCard rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► in peace or automator or writing apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► your people skills that is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► future of computing it's too complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► regular people don't want to do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► professionals who want to do it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► causing more problems themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► they're solving really should just allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► hard-coding into our applications or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► just buy another application does what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► they want to stop trying to program it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► automation division and a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► manager of automation that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► future of the company that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► future of the mac we don't need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► resources and it's holding back our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► other partners that's like the doomsday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► scenario most pessimistic scenario is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► that automation is being the emphasized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► in the same way that writing batch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► scripts would be emphasized or or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► know having to provide programs yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► would be de-emphasized right home and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► that the market progress has been be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► emphasizing the need for people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► computers to do stuff like that it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► to be you had to enter your programs by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► typing from the back of a magazine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► basically that's how you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► program to run right and no one does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► that anymore now we have the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► right and a lot of the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► use automation for hopefully are moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► by the fact that programs are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► better or the internet does it better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► even something as simple as like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► thank for iOS workflows get workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► right its third-party opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► workflows just fine apples need to do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► just need to provide the capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► and apple event itself you can argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► with the fact that Apple that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► damn old and creaky hit this if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► it could be that it's all being replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► by some bold new vision of automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► for the modern age in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► Apple script replaced everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► came before it but as with all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► apple we don't know big black hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► you have no idea what they're planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► and we just have fear uncertainty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► doubt and once again this is all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► context of Apple fans being grumpy for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► bunch of related reasons so it can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► bad but i'm not entirely ready to go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► doing loom on this just because it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► just be that it's time to turn a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► page because Sal and all the texts tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► that he was working on and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6238">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► foundational attack like Apple events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► has never really felt like it is fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► into the OS 10 world so best-case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► scenario they're rethinking this all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► saying what is automation mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► from here going forward doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► Apple events or is there better overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► system for automating things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► computer so worst-case Tim Cook says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► anything stupid when you do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► people just tap their me little fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► on screens and not worry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► yeah I never really i never really wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► much apple script I did real early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► when I first got my mac to do i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► know like some silly basic things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► forget exactly what it was for was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► something like that and this was like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► two thousand eight ish and I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► never really gone back and had a need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► write more now I know there's tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► people who write it a lot and use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► for me this this is not something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► terribly worried about and not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► that i use terribly often but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► does make me a little bit that if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► is a canary in a coal mine in the coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► mine for automation in OS for mac OS it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► bummed me out if that went away but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► wouldn't say would necessarily affect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► I mean it's more about like it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► a very very powerful set of features you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► know what Apple script the language is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► implementation detail of it there's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► the the system on which it's based that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► exposes Apple events and and control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► applications automation about of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► applications you know through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► entire API that can be any language you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► need to be and there's a there's many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► things that that exposed to as different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► languages like like at the jazz talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► makes it javascript there's a few other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► things like that you know it's it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► than this that feature set while it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► used by probably a very tiny percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► of mac users the amount of power it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► gives is so great that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► really the mac OS one of the things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► love so much about mac OS is that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► incredibly powerful if you know how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► how did how to use its power like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► isn't there it is it is in every sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► of the word a true workstation OS and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► I said my macpro post like OS 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► awesome and to remove or or two to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► rot or to deprecate a major area of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► I can see why people are worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► that and Johnny no I agree it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► seem like things are moving away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► that and from that direction in consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► software design mostly by Apple's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► by the way I expected it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► whole interview is mostly Apple doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► this but it was in many ways there's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► automation features that were fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► accessible to people like programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► will always find ways to automate things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► the most extreme power users will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► find ways to automate things but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► the things that made this area of OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► so powerful is that it was really quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► accessible to lots of people a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► of people who are not programmers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► able to use things like automator to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► time-consuming tasks that then freed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► them up to to have the computer do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► computers supposed to do you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► the kind of power that usually you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► to be a programmer to have many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► were given this power by the by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► system is infrastructure so the loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► it I i think is certainly cause for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► concern if if you love the mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► system as much as i do for for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► this power that it's always had and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► know as like I'll be fine because i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► programmer i can use bash and scrape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► something up or actually write a write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► automate them which i do all the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► hardly ever use these technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► because i usually just right shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► scripts and stuff instead but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► people use these I think and even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► percentage-wise I'm sure it's very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► but still that still could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► thousands of people who rely on this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► to save them like hours of time a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► or two do something that would just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► so yeah you know I I feel the word this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► that being said we still there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► about this that we still don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► know all we know is that this this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► with his job was cut apparently we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► know why we don't know you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► they're just reorganizing the Department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► of whatever it said I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► this is organized decide maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► maybe just you know a reorg maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► measures maybe it might come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► maybe it was just like a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► conflict maybe there's a new team doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► basically like maybe also there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► overlap because right you know we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► this automation system but maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► with people like I told you want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► be able to script your applications with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► weapon we have this project and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► that project wins and so this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► the legacy version of automation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► then this will come another one I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► thinking about in terms of how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► get people who can't program to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► I always feel like the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► good at using automator an apple script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► are either basically programmers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► ready and they don't know it or could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► programmers within 15 minutes because to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► use even though the automator is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► easier than coding the people who use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► as part of the job they they eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► can't avoid basically becoming programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► they don't know their programs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► they just click buttons but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► learning conditionals loops logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► input/output like that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► learning what programmers would consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► to be an awful programming languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► just clicking a bunch of buttons around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► right which is like let me just write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► the code right but that's because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► also excel Wizards yeah exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► but another way you could do that is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► non-programmers to be able to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► programmers know how to make them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► another way to do it would be to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► conversation with the computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► describe what you want to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► computer do it so a much much much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► much much much more advanced Syria you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► could say serious discussion i want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► to take all the when photos arrived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► his folder i want you to take all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► rename them with the date and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► know tag them with this label and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► them into this folder something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► could do with hazel or with automator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► resize them all to be this size or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► whatever blah blah and Syria we go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► and forth you mean like this giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► a preview what you're going to say ok if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► i was to do it this is what i would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► is the book what you wanted like all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► would be doing behind the scenes using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► the automation machinery that's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► there and all the automation you're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► to do for like images easy because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► have so many tools like resizing images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► or are you know changing the EXIF data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► or renaming files like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► easy to do all you need to do is figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► out a way to express the computer what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► conversation with even a pretty stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► series that is never less hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► times smarter than it is now to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► and forth eventually series could figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► out essentially here's the automator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► action would have built only we built it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► together by having a conversation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► is certainly a much more advanced much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► brighter and I think attainable future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► of letting all people automate stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► and we're all wrapped up in the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► team and they have grand plans to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► that I wish them luck because so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► they haven't really shown me anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► but it could be done and so maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► know like things that we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► what's going on Apple it could just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► rear or we could just be emerging type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► thing it but I i have i have hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► even if Apple has decided that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► single technology the salads on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► website is the past of automation that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► have some hope that Apple believes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► there is something else that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► future of automation because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► said Marko people want to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► computers to do complicated things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► if they're not programmers don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► become programmers that we have to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► a way to let them do that like a gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► slope to get them to be able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► because they will be happier with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► indispensable even if they good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► something as simple as you know when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► get an email like this extract the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► attachment put in this folder rename it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► this way and then send me a text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► about it or do whatever like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► normal people that they can make some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► that work they think it is the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► thing in the world because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► basically like someone's on the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► rooms like a gateway drug to programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► or they never actually go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► gate they just stay outside of and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► this is great my computer knows what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► which i think is great so I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► they're still need for non-programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► to be able to automate things in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOvOso/6772">TS</a>]