384: A Very Well-Known Ophthalmologist
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(upbeat music)
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Hello and welcome to Connected episode 384.
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It's made possible this week by our sponsors,
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Bombas, Fitbod, and New Relic.
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My name is Stephen Hackett.
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I am joined by Mr. Federico Vittucci.
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- Hello, hi.
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- Hello, we're back.
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And we're back with our friend Myke Hurley.
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How is everybody?
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I'm exhausted. I feel super weird. I apologize already.
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Why are you exhausted? Tell us more about it.
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I recorded a really, really long thing before.
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So today as we recorded this, we did two things for The Panadict.
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It is our 500th episode and also today is our 10th anniversary of working together on the show too.
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They just ended up incredibly just lining up.
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We didn't do anything special for it. They just lined up.
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We recorded a three-hour episode, which was like a very listener intensive feedback show.
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Like people wrote in a bunch of stuff to us and we promised we'd read every message.
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I finished recording that show like 20 minutes before we started recording.
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So I'm a little bit all over the place in the moment.
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Congrats though. I mean that's an incredible milestone.
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I can't believe you haven't blogged about this.
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Like, I can see the headline already on, like, a Medium blog or something.
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Like, I recorded 500 episodes for a podcast about pants.
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Here's everything I learned.
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-Here's everything I learned. -Like, super click-baity, you know?
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Yeah. I'm not really sure what I've learned yet, though.
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I have to think about that.
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Nothing. Nothing.
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-It's just a blank post. -It's what I learned.
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Well, congratulations.
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I remember it I cannot I refuse it's not that I can't I refuse to believe that it's been 10 years I
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Don't I don't understand how that's possible at all
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Well, we started the show in 2012. No, I understand how math works but like holy crap decade
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Unbelievable. Yeah, it's crazy, right? Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. All right, so here on the non pin show
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We were on episode 384. It would be episode
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441 if you count the prompt that gives you some context of how long you've been doing the pen addict
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It's over a year. Yep more episodes than we've been doing this show
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384 episodes we start with follow-up two things about the
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Jeremy's the game that we played last week cannot believe we forgot and says on me because actually have it further down in the show notes
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where like my Jeremy's template is. I just missed it. We didn't tell people about the
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website. So you can go to thejeremys.herokuapp.com, link is in the show notes, and there is put
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together here all of the picks for the Jeremy's over the last many years. You can see all
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the guesses Federico made and if he eventually got it right or eventually got it wrong. It's
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amazing and you should go check it out.
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The good thing about this page specifically and why it's worth looking at it sometime
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afterwards which I always enjoy doing is that Jason lists every guess Federico makes, not
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just the one that was correct.
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That's the best part about this which is always fun to look back on.
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Beans has been in my head a lot recently.
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sent in the PDF for the proposal for biting lip emoji.
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And I just want to read some of this.
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This is from the introduction.
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Humans have a long experience with nonverbal communication.
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Before we had words, we needed to try to rely on groaning and gesturing.
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These old habits stuck...
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These old habits stuck.
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This is an interesting energy.
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And it's hardwired in our brain that we even just, just, we even gesticulate while speaking
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on the phone or while on a podcast, while obviously the other person can't see us.
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And then they go on to, "Biting and chewing lip can indicate a range of emotions, including
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fear, anxiety, and discomfort in a situation, or perhaps the person is worried or insecure."
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but also lip biting can be iconic of flirtation
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and exercising restraint.
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- So, and it goes on and on with Google search results,
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multiple usages.
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This person who put this together really puts flirtation
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and fear and anxiety sort of on the same level
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throughout this document.
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So, you know, maybe they've been burned in the area of love
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and it comes coming out in their PDF, but here you go.
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- Yeah, there's tons of examples for pain,
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anticipation, excitement, arousal,
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which is another category.
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- Okay, so my least favorite thing about this,
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I have two least favorite things.
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Least favorite thing number one is
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in the introduction thing,
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they've put in a bunch of imagery as like examples
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and there's three stock images
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and then there's an image of Harry and Megan
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on their wedding day.
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And it's just like, I'm not really sure why.
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He's buying his lip.
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Yeah, but like why this image
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and then three random stock images, you know?
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Like I don't understand the--
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The first one gives, you know.
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Like popular context, but I feel like
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there are probably a million movie scenes
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that you could pick from.
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Also the zwidge that they suggested
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was a mouth plus a tooth,
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and I don't like that as a thing.
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And also just this, I just still cannot believe this emoji.
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I just can't believe this emoji is a thing.
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- It's the best one.
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- You know, there's a lot of other emoji in this document.
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- Biting lip is expected to have high usage.
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- When it comes to Google, biting lip greatly outperforms
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the median smiley emoji dueling face.
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- This is a very formal, this is a very formal proposal.
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- Yeah, I mean, you're submitting it
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to like a consortium committee type thing, right?
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You've got to try and make it, even though,
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even though like, look, this is what's kind of funny to me really about this proposal
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is like, the people that made this proposal, what they're looking for is a sexting emoji,
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right? It's justification for... But they have to present it in such an official way.
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That duality is very entertaining for me. Exactly, it's so professional, but done in
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a way to justify the thirst behind this emoji, which makes it so perfect. It's like from
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From the dawn of time, human beings have commuted.
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It's like, alright, okay.
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Don't you know that biting a lip is like, look, I get it.
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Also I enjoy, right, like, the way they've stacked this.
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Lip biting can be a trademark of insecure shy types, but also lip biting can be iconic
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of flirtation or exercising restraint.
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No, not also.
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I was like, oh, I'm so nervous right now, lip bite emoji.
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No one's gonna do that.
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Under the section labeled "Breaking New Ground," the author is right.
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Other than "Smirking Face" (aka Sexual Face, Smug Face, and Suggestive Smile), there aren't
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any other emojis effective at communicating the tension that comes with flirtation.
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Water droplet guy, peach, heart eyes, eggplant, but none that convey the emotional complexity
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that comes with relationships.
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Right, right.
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But the biting lip does.
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The biting lip really speaks to emotional complexity.
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Anyway, that's enough of that.
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- You took that further than I was expecting, Steven.
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- Just the whole document, it's just--
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- I'm a sophisticated person.
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I don't send the peach emoji, I send the biting lip one.
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- I'm gonna read the next piece of follow-up
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because I feel like I put this out into the world,
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so I should just continue pulling it out.
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- No, no, no, please don't, no, no.
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- It doesn't feel fair.
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It doesn't feel fair for other people
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clear it out to have to read it no there is no clearing up I was right the first
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time and this is just more information from Rafi indeed the pupil of the eye is
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a hole no which lets light in and the image is then projected on the back of
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the eye just like in a camera also like a camera the pupil gets smaller when
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there's more lights and like smaller larger you know the pupil is black
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because it's dark inside the eyeball because it's a hole and you're looking
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inside the eye. This is also why you get red eyes when taking picture with a flash right
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in front of the eyes. The flash simply lights the inside of your eyeball showing the red
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color inside our head. This comes from Rafi, who I can only assume is a very well known
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ophthalmologist. No, I don't care. Why send this piece of follow up? Kate's asked a great
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question. Kate asked a really great question. Why are we doing this again? The reason is
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Stephen put this in a document and I just decided to read it. Holes. Just holes. Holes
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in the eyes. Moving on. Let's talk about feet. If you think about it, the pupils are just
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like the nostrils of the eyes. You know? Enough about holes. Feet. Right? Much better. From
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Lip bike. Let's go to feet now. We're doing the whole anatomy thing today.
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That's the theme of today's episode is we're covering the entire anatomy.
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The gang discovers the human body. This is what we're doing today.
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Friend of the show, Matt Van Ormer. Let's talk about Matt's feet.
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aka the foot mod, has bought and reviewed the Steam Deck pedal.
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Ultimately, there's kind of nothing surprising from this, like it is what we thought it was.
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Matt did note that it was very well made, like the hardware is very well made and in use was
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really enjoyed. It's got three buttons on it kind of, right? Three pedals.
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Two on each side are raised higher than the one in the middle, which you can kind of see from
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from the imagery, but this helps you,
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no, or is the one in the middle raised?
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There's a difference in height between the two
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on either side and the one in the middle.
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And this helps you kind of feel with your feet
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which button you're pressing.
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So it's very useful in use.
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Did either of you buy one of these, by the way?
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- No, no, but there's a section of this post
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called Alto Automation.
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- It's sold out basically immediately.
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So a lot of people are into foot automation.
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- Or toe-mation.
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- Toe-nation.
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- All toe-mation.
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- All toe-mation.
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- Oh, did he use it barefoot?
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- I don't know.
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Matt is in the Discord.
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Matt, did you use it barefoot or with socks or with shoes?
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We would like to know.
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This is a very important follow-up.
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Do you like the pictures that Matt included
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with his dog in there?
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- I do, very good, especially good dog.
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- Mostly socked, but sometimes barefoot, so there you go.
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- Very good, very good, okay, okay.
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Yeah, one of the best dogs I've seen
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from the follow-up segment.
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We've seen a few over the years.
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It's an extremely good dog.
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Look at those eyes, yeah.
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Look at the gracious pose, yeah.
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Very good dog, very good dog.
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- Do you think dogs have holes in their eyes?
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- Yeah. - Can you please, no.
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I'm quitting how do you quit zoom close a call you can never quit zoom okay
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should I consider the steam deck pedal should I you already have one considered
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it like it's only a matter of time until you get it quote unquote for your work
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so it's like one shortcuts for serious shortcuts no maybe stop oh my god maybe
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you could program one of the pedals to quit zoom you know so if I keep talking
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about things you don't like bang and then you're gone I could check it out at
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the podcast yeah I could look into that yeah I may added a role in discord just
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for Matt named foot mod.
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- That's there for all time.
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Just as like a related plug in, I think two weeks from now,
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now this, not the next episode,
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but the one after that on MPU,
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we're getting deep into the stream deck.
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So I'm like, I like burned down my whole stream deck set up,
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have rebuilt it.
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I wanted to check out the foot pedal, but it was sold out.
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So if you're stream deck curious,
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we have an MPU coming that I think you will like a lot.
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- I am actually, so I will look forward to that.
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Well, I mean, you didn't have, you know, don't have one.
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You've never had one.
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- I do have one.
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I had one before you.
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I set it up again and I've never used it.
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I set it up with it.
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I spent an afternoon setting it up
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and I just don't ever press it.
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I never think to press the button.
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I think maybe I'm just not a Stream Deck person,
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but I will listen to that Mac Power Users episode
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and then make my final decision.
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- So Apple has announced a new thing called Tap to Pay
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on the iPhone.
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This is kind of like somebody reminded me on Twitter
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about this, about, you remember they did the Find My Network
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before they announced AirTags?
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- I think it might be something similar here.
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They're announcing they're doing this thing
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and then maybe they're gonna announce something else,
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probably like NFC and an iPad or whatever, right?
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maybe I'm just gonna make some kind of accessory to put an iPad in, whatever, so you can make
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like a point of sale terminal. Basically what it's doing is unlocking the functionality
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inside of the NFC chips in iPhones so that an iPhone can be used like a contactless payment
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terminal. So instead of using one of those big things on a desk or you know you've got
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like the little square reader or whatever, it's just bang straight on the iPhone, easy
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to go. Now Federico, I see you have a bunch of questions in the document. Yes I do. I
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think I might be able to answer for you, so maybe as a better way to talk about this,
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why don't you ask these questions to me? I am glad you are here to provide answers to
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my questions. My questions are developed on two separate fronts. There's the more, the
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questions about this announcement and then in a broader context of payments in America.
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But in the context of Tap to Pay on the iPhone, can you explain to me why this is a big deal
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according to a lot of people? Because when I shop here in Italy, I have never, and I'm
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not, this is not an exaggeration or anything, I have never seen the, like, the things that
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I've seen in America, like those iPads in coffee shops or something. Everybody here
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as a standard POS, point of sale terminal, that accepts contactless payments or the chip-based cards.
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Literally everyone has it.
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See, the reason I think I can help you specifically is because the UK has a kind of a hybrid system,
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where we are, like Europe, everywhere has contactless payments and you can use anything.
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It's not like there are places in America where it's like,
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"Oh, you can do contactless,
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but you sometimes have to put your card in."
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And sometimes Apple Pay works, and we're the same as you.
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But something that I see here that I also see in America
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is small businesses with these more modern systems
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that either look like an iPad or are an iPad,
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or they use these little things that plug into an iPad.
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And this tends to be relatively new or small businesses
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or people that are setting up, say,
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you have like a farmer's market kind of thing or whatever, right? Where it's like you can't
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have a checkout system because you're outside and there's nowhere to plug in or whatever.
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So you'll see a lot of the time.
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Maybe I've just been to the wrong places then.
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I don't know. Like it depends what's around you, what's local to you. I mean, my expectation
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probably is a lot of the businesses that you frequent have been around for a long time.
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You know what I mean? So like they're just more established. I don't know. Like I've
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There's a lot of places that I frequent in the UK that are more artsy places and they're
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new and they're trying to make it work and they've only been in their business for three
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weeks and they've got a little square reader kind of thing.
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So the benefit to what Apple's doing here is you don't have to use the hardware provided
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by the company, which I'm sure comes with some kind of fee.
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This would remove that, so you don't need to worry about that anymore.
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And also for a lot of people, especially in very constrained environments, or as I say,
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like a farmer's market or something, they don't need another piece of hardware.
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So like for example, when I used to help Brad out at the pen shows, we would always need
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to use his phone because it was the only one that had the Square Reader in it.
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But if we could all just sign into an account, which would be his account, and just use say
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the Square app and then it can just take the payment because it's on anyone's phone, that's
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going to be way better as a system for a lot of people. This isn't going to be the case
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for everybody. I'm sure in a lot of coffee shops they're still going to want a dedicated
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terminal. There's a company that I see a lot now called Clover. I see those in the UK,
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I've seen them in America as well, where they make a really nice thing. And it's just a
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point of sale system, but it's modern looking. It looks like those kind of iPad focused ones,
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like it's an actual contained unit, people are still going to use that. But this would
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allow for small businesses, new businesses especially, to not have to get these like
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any point of sale hardware, whether cheap or expensive, they could just use their phone
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or their probably an iPad instead.
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Okay, that's cool. I'm never going to see this in Italy, but okay, that's...
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- You might, you might, because honestly,
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there might be some companies that want
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a different experience and this is gonna be
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probably free to them to use,
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if it comes outside of the US.
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Which I reckon it will, 'cause like they're working,
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one of the people they're working with,
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I think the only company they've announced
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they're working with so far is Stripe.
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And Stripe is very international, so considering
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Stripe will be the facilitator of the payments here,
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I don't see why they couldn't roll this out.
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This isn't like Apple Pay Cash, where Apple's working with a specific bank or whatever to
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make that work.
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I could imagine that this would roll out faster than say the peer-to-peer payment stuff would.
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And my second question, not related to, what's it called, Tap to Pay?
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Not related to Tap to Pay, but more in the broader context of like all these apps and
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services that let you do person-to-person payments, usually in America. Like, they seem
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to be a big deal for American users, like CashApp and Venmo, like everybody's using
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them. And I saw a video on Twitter a while back that was actually a TikTok video that
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a friend of the show, Rob, found again for me today, so thank you, Rob. So it's basically
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video of someone explaining why these services are so popular in America to do the peer-to-peer
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payments and explaining the difference between the American bank system and the European
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bank system where in Europe I can send money to someone basically for free in two seconds.
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But like this thing with like these services like Cash App and Venmo, that's just not a
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Yeah, it's like we have it too. It's like imagine if your bank worked as easily as Venmo,
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because that's what it's like in Europe and in the UK as well. And I'm sure in a lot of
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other places. We don't have fees for these transfers and they happen immediately across
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banks. It's not even for the same bank.
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But this is not true in America, hence why they are popular, these services.
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Yeah, it's filling, it's like filling a hole left open by our bad, like our bad system,
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If we had what y'all have in Europe, this wouldn't be as exciting to us.
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This could be a reason why maybe Apple's never really pushed on Apple Pay Cash, because there
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isn't really that much of a need for it.
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Whereas this one specifically could be used in other countries, because it's not really
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about a failure of the banking system as such.
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more that just like these days small businesses would just prefer much more flexibility and
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this would enable even more flexibility because there's always an iPhone in the middle of
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these square transactions or whatever and now you don't need to have that hardware that
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gets between the phone and the customer. So it's pretty cool I'm pleased that they've
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done this. I think this is an interesting thing. I am just wondering is there another
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shoe to drop here? Exactly like it can be iPhone only right?
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So it definitely seems like this is something
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that future iPads will support.
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So you can like have, be that person, right?
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We have like an iPad.
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I mean, my favorite coffee shop,
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like they use iPads with like the square reader,
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but I've even been other places,
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like if you go to, especially like a temporary store
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or like a festival or something,
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it's like iPad minis and those little credit card readers.
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It's like, man, all that could just go away.
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So I would bet good money,
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and maybe this will be a prediction
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in a future Ricky's episode that future iPads will support
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whatever hardware is needed to make this work.
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- I think I saw on six colors,
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I think Dan wrote the article that like, and it's true.
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I had a vague memory of this and I was pleased
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somebody found it.
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Like iPads have had NFC chips in them before,
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they've just not been turned on.
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But like, it just seems like it was like,
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it was cheaper for them to put them in
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than not put them in kind of thing.
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You know, sometimes you get like weird hardware in a device.
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It's like, why is this sensor here?
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Like there's that weird sensor in the HomePod mini, right?
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That doesn't do anything, right?
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It's like a temperature sensor or something.
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Am I losing my mind here?
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It seems like nobody's on board with me.
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- Yeah, I got nothing.
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- Okay, well, anyway, someone knows what I'm talking about.
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- Anyway, payments, right?
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- I'm off in like my little fever dream over here.
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Have you not heard about the secret chips
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nobody knows about?
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- It's just your body, it's fine.
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- They're hiding them in there, Federico.
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There's NFC everywhere, man.
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It's fine. You go play over there with your chips.
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All right, so cool.
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So payments, huh?
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Money, money, money.
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It's important these days.
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Makes the world go round, is what I say.
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That's why Apple is doing it.
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Oh, Matt in the foot mod came up
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with the Bloomberg article about a humidity
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and temperature sensor from a HomePod mini.
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Believe it now, Bloomberg said it.
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He don't believe it when I said it.
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Mark Gorman says it.
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He like, "Oh, it's so true."
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when Myke says it, it's like you're--
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- Well, I mean, when has Bloomberg ever been in trouble
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for a story that may or may not have been super accurate?
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- Footnote, Bloomberg was responsible for the--
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- Yeah, boy! - We're not doing that.
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No, we're not doing that, no.
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That's worse than the pupil, I'm sorry.
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- Everyone has a hole in their foot where the light comes in.
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- God, okay.
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Oh my God. - Oh, God.
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Please keep talking about banks and payments.
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Let's talk about betas.
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Let's talk about that.
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I can actually tie all this together if you want.
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iOS 15.4 beta 2 includes the functionality for the tap
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So that's one thing.
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And second, just in general, I'm really
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excited about this face ID of mask.
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I'm not running the betas.
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I'm just going to wait.
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But because I-- now when I have to use Apple Pay in the local
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coffee shop and I have to put my code in right I'm like oh man I can't wait
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until I don't have to do this anymore or like a couple of days. You don't have to do it now.
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Just put the bag on. I don't want to put the bag on my phone. And also like I was in IKEA yesterday and I
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couldn't remember the PIN number for a card. It's like a card I don't use very
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frequently so I had to like I could put the card in I was like oh no I've
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forgotten and then I had to open one password put in my master password find
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I was like I hate doing that so embarrassing you stand in there for like
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two minutes where you search up the stuff. So I'm very excited about the face ID mask thing.
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Just hold your breath, take your mask off real quick, that's bad advice.
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No, you see, I don't like doing it, right? Like, it's not me, I don't like looking like that guy,
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you know? Like, I don't want to be that guy who's like, "Oh, I pulled his mask down." Like,
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like a fool. They added some stuff with Beta 2, Look Down to Unlocked, it kind of reminds me of,
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like, the whatever on the iPad or something like that, right? Where they point, like, "Hey, the
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face things over here. Because I think it needs your attention, is that right Federico? Like it
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needs... Yeah. It has to have... you have to be looking at the phone so like you can't turn off
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the attention detection thing for that. I think that's accurate, yeah. Right? Yeah. I think it's
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like the attention detection thing. It's really good. I've been running the beta and it's such a
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good feature. It's so useful. The change in shortcuts is like made tech press
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people happy. Where you can run some automations without notifications. Not
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all of them. The one that I use the most often which is replace a home screen
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icon with a shortcut. That still shows the banner which is frustrating but I
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think people are excited about this and it feels like another slow step towards
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maybe shortcuts can just like do stuff in the background
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all the time.
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- Yeah. - Not bother me.
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- They still have a bit of work to do there.
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Like for example, automations like in,
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any kind of automation in shortcuts
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does not exist on Monterey at all.
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If you want to run shortcuts on the Mac on a schedule,
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you got to use like Chrome jobs or external utilities,
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like better touch tool with time triggers
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or something like that,
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because they don't have like the automation tab
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in the Mac app, it's just not there,
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which is kind of weird.
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But what you mentioned for the home screen icons,
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I was hoping that they would,
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we talked about this last week,
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that they would add like a toggle
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in the shortcuts details page
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that lets you do what you can do with automations,
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which is notify when run.
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But it's as of beta two, it's still not there.
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I still want to kind of believe
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that they're gonna add this to the shortcuts inspector,
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or maybe as a toggle, it could even be like an option
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that you only see when you add a shortcut
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to the home screen, like in the icon picking,
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like sort of final confirmation screen,
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there could be maybe an option there.
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I don't know.
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I feel like it's odd to have that inconsistency right now
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where an automation like--
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- My only question to this was like,
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what if they do what you suggested in your Ricky pic?
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Like homes, this was one of your Ricky pics,
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like customization stuff?
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- So maybe they wouldn't want to offer this
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'cause they've got like a thing
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they're gonna do with app icons.
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- Maybe, maybe, because like using a shortcut
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to install a custom icon for an app
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is a kind of a silly work around.
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- You're not supposed to make a shortcut
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if you want to customize your home screen.
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and we're all in agreement there.
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It's a workaround that people have discovered.
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Apple actually made it better.
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If you recall, before iOS 14.2, .3, maybe,
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basically after this became a thing,
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before that, these kinds of shortcuts,
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they would still open the shortcuts app first,
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and then it would take you to the app
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that you wanted to launch from a custom icon.
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And then Apple realized,
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"Oh, millions of people are doing this.
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"I guess we gotta make it a little better for them."
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And so now those custom icons, those custom shortcuts,
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when you tap them from the home screen,
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they just go straight to the app that you're launching.
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But it didn't used to be like this.
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It used to be worse.
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So Apple made it a bit better.
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But now they could make it all the way better.
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And it seems like they don't want to.
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And the inconsistency is weird because arguably,
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an automation that runs in the background
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and can do all kinds of things,
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I mean, it's technically more dangerous
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than a shortcut that you run as an icon
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from the home screen, you know?
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But still, there's an option there
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and not when you wanna add a shortcut
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with a custom icon to your home screen.
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I don't get it.
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- Marina in the Discord had a question.
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Does the iPad also get Face ID with a mask on?
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- I don't think it does.
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- Do you think they'll do that?
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- Maybe, I don't know.
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I can see why they wouldn't just because they like don't think they need to.
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You know what I mean? Like I could see that being like a blind spot,
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but I think it would be good to have it.
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I wonder if it has anything to do with the,
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the iPad's ability to do face ID from more angles.
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Like I wonder if that makes it more or less complicated. I just don't know,
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but it would be nice. Like if you have, if you can do it, it should.
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So maybe there's a reason that it can't.
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- Isn't it weird that the iPhone never got the ability
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to do it from multiple angles?
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- I think it is.
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I think it's super weird.
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- Why is that?
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Why is that?
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If the iPad can do it,
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and it seems like the sensors are basically the same.
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Hmm, I don't know.
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- I'm so used to the iPad Mini now with the Touch ID.
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So the Six Colors Apple Report Card
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was just released earlier this week,
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or maybe last week now.
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I don't know how time works.
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But one of the sections--
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- It was this week, it was like two days ago.
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- We didn't talk about it,
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but I didn't have power for like a week.
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- You didn't have power, so what do you know?
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- Yeah, Memphis had this big ice storm,
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I didn't have power for almost a week,
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so like I'm, I, seriously, if we weren't recording today,
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I wouldn't know what day it is because I'm so off.
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But it's fascinating, go read it.
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All three of us are lucky enough to participate in it,
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which I always enjoy.
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But one of the sections that always gets
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pretty much a rough score is HomeKit,
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Apple's smart home platform.
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It's a weird ecosystem because Apple,
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like HomeKit's kind of invisible.
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They have the home app, which is not very good,
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but then there's all these other parts of the service
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that aren't even exposed and the home app
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and other apps can build on top of it.
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but Apple doesn't make any hardware for it,
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other than the HomePod and the Apple TV,
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which can act as basically HomeKit hubs,
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so you can use and access your stuff
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when you're away from your network.
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But they don't make cameras or lights or anything,
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they leave all that up to the third party
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sort of world to make stuff.
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And the three of us have all experimented with HomeKit
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and Smart Home stuff over the years.
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So I kind of wanted to touch base with the two of you
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and see kind of where things are
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with your Smart Home stuff,
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What do you think about HomeKit in particular?
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Are you looking to move past it?
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Are you looking to engage more with it?
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Kind of the lay of the land,
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and Federico gave this section a very good name
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that we should recognize.
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So Federico, what are we doing today?
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- Because you mentioned, like,
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why don't we go sort of round-robin style,
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talking about our setups and all the different rooms
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that we have in our homes.
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I thought we could call this a room-robbing.
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So, you're welcome.
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- It's very good.
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- Really good.
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- Are we gonna actually do this around Robin's style?
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- I mean, we can.
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- I mean, why else?
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- Well, Steven said that.
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- I mean, we have to now.
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- It's a room Robin.
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I'll go first because I came up with the title,
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which grants me rights to--
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- Makes you king of the room.
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- Makes me the king of the room.
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So I will say that, first of all, Myke,
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I enjoyed your quote in the Six Colors report card.
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For context, for those who have not read it,
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Myke said that Apple spent all of its energy
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building the home set for the keynote videos.
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- You know, like, I don't know if you ever have this,
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like, when I fill out the report card,
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it's like it's just going to Jason.
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- Yes, it's like, yeah.
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- And then when it's published, I'm like,
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But the design may be a little...
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Oh no, what have I done?
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Did I say that the right way? I don't know.
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This was meant to be for you and you only.
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No, I know it's not that.
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Like, I know that it's...
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But like, it feels different.
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But anyway, he sent it to me beforehand
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and I didn't ask him to remove it.
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But like, it was one of those things that I was like,
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I was maybe a little unnecessarily snarky there,
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but nevertheless.
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That was good, that was good.
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So I will say that my smart home setup
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has been simplified a lot over the years.
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That's partly because we're still renting a very small place.
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There's not enough freedom for us at the moment to install the things we would like to install or to change.
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Some of the things we would like to change, like a new thermostat for example, or redoing all of the lights,
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redoing all of the light switches. We can't do that.
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And until we find a new place that is ours and that we fully control, that sort of stuff is not available for me.
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And I have also simplified, because I realized that sometimes, you know, you can easily overdo
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home automation stuff to the point where it gets in the way. And sometimes it's just, it's better
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to have something that is easy and, you know... - Have you met my friend Homebridge? - Exactly, exactly.
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And so when I say this, I say this because I know what it's like to go really deep down the
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the rabbit hole of like turning everything
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into a HomeKit appliance or making everything a switch
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in the Home app that you can also control with Siri.
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You can overdo this stuff,
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just like you can overdo any kind of automation, right?
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You just gotta figure out what works, what sticks for you,
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what is easy and reliable and consistent.
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In the context of home automation,
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what makes it tricky is it's not just for you,
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it's also for other people who live with you,
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which is something that is another topic to consider.
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Like you may think that something that you just set up
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in HomeKit or Alexa or whatever is cool,
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but remember, it needs to be usable by other people
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in your household as well, including kids, possibly.
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So yeah, it's a whole topic,
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but essentially I have a very small place
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and Myke has seen my place, can confirm that it's small.
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The one true John has seen it.
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Steven hasn't because Steven has never,
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Steven hates Italy, Steven hates Europe.
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The thing about your apartment, it's a small apartment, massive balcony.
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It's like half of the apartment is balcony.
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Yes, but there's a whole story there, but we cannot get into that here.
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Anyway, we have three Logi Circle 2 cameras.
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These are the second generation Logi Circle that got updated to support HomeKit Secure Video,
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which we are using on all three of them.
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I have one in the entrance room of the apartment,
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I have one in the kitchen/living room,
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and another in the short hallway that connects the living room to the bedroom and the second bathroom.
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These are the three cameras that we use most of the time that we set up with HomeKit Secure Video.
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Outside on the huge balcony that Myke mentioned, I have an old D-Link Ommina camera.
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So yeah, I wanted to start from the first room that I want to cover,
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it's the balcony and the entrance, because they're camera-related.
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There's two cameras, two Hue lights, so there's one white only,
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and outside there's a colored one, just because we spend more time in the spring and in the summer outside with friends.
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And it's nice to have some accent colors there.
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And in addition, outside we also have the Eve weather sensor.
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This is a Thread-compatible temperature sensor that can live outside.
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I also forgot to put this on the list, but on the balcony we also have the
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Eve Energy. This is a smart plug that is also thread compatible. I basically repurchased all
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of these HomeKit accessories last year when I wanted to make sure that I had thread compatibility
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everywhere as much as possible. It has improved reliability, but not as much as I hoped, honestly.
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this Thread Radio stuff. It's not as foolproof as I hoped it would be. So yeah, basically when
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the first two rooms of the apartment, which are... I think of them as one thing, because they were
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supposed to be one thing, but it's a whole... Sorry. - If we're around Robbing-ing, should it not move on now?
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- Yes, I am gonna let you move on, but I just wanted to recap. Entrance and balcony, LogiCircle2,
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2U lights, an old D-Link omni that really should change eventually,
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Eve weather and Eve energy. Nice, Eve weather, that's the one. Eve weather. Eve weather.
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So in my entrance, I guess, really like the front of my house, I've got a ring camera looking out.
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I used Nest stuff for a long time, and I bought one of their sort of new generation cameras,
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and we talked about on the show, it was so abysmal, I just ended up replacing my other
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couple of Nest cameras with ring stuff. I know people have, and it's a good conversation to have,
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about ring and privacy and the stuff they do. You can turn all of it off now, you can have
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end-to-end encryption turned on their, at least their new hardware, I have that turned
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on everywhere. It makes some of the alerts a little slower but I'm fine with
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that. So we've got a ring camera looking at the front and then I have an
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overhead light on our front porch that is set to come on an hour before sunset
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and stay on an hour after sunrise, so it's on at night. You may think, "Oh, well
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how you doing that? You have like an app? No, I have what's called an "Intermatic
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STO1". There'll be a link in the show notes. Love the STO1. That's the, that's the,
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that's the good one. That's the good one. That's the good one. So this goes where you put your
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regular light switch, and you can use it as a regular light switch, you can just
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push it and it clicks like a regular switch, but this has a timer in it and
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and you can tell it where you are, and it knows,
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due to I guess internal programming,
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'cause this thing's not on the network,
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like it's all built in logic.
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- It knows when sunrise and sunset is,
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it knows when daylight savings time is,
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and so you can program it.
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This came with our house, by the way,
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this was here when we bought the house,
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and I haven't changed it.
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- Do you think this thing survived Y2K?
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Like, do you think it handled it?
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- I mean, it still works now.
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- I guess, right?
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- I'm sure it will survive Y3K.
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- If my house is still here in a thousand years,
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then have at it.
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And I mean, I don't think,
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I don't know if I would have known
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to look for something like this.
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I probably would have tried to find something
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smart and clever, but it totally gets the job done.
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And it came with the house, so it has stayed
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'cause it is really reliable.
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There's a note on the website that's fantastic.
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It says, "Not for use with sun lamps, saunas,
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or loads that could cause personal injury
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if timed incorrectly.
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- Oh, what is that?
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What happened?
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- Yeah, someone died in a sauna is what happened.
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- No, it's the last part.
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Loads that could cause personal injury
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if timed incorrectly.
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- Like a breathing machine or something?
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I don't know.
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- Someone was using one of these to wait something
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and it just hit the time wrong and it fell, right?
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Like that's what happened here and I wanna know.
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- I didn't mean electrical loads, not like a load of rocks.
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- Yeah, it's just holding a big row of rocks, as you say,
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and then switch goes off, rocks fall down.
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- Anyways, you get 'em at your hardware store.
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Really simple, I just have the PDF manual and Apple Notes,
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and if I ever wanna make adjustments,
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but I've been happy with it, so I have this thing,
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which is like smart home stuff before smart home stuff.
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But as far as the front of my house, that's about it.
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I honestly, so that's it for yours?
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I don't know if you'll believe me when I tell you that for our home security system,
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kind of which is the only thing in our entrance way, I am using a canary.
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No, still? I mean come on, it's been 20 years.
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I'm still using the same canary that I've been using.
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Are they still around?
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you know what I couldn't believe this they updated the app a couple of weeks
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ago and added new features to the canary I assumed I was the only customer home
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kit support no are you sure there's not like a single engineer that is creepily
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watching you no I don't know I mean isn't that couldn't that be the thing
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of all of this stuff who knows what did you name your canary I remember it
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having a name. Buster. Buster! He's at Bust the Bad Guys. He busts the bad guys, you know?
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That's right. He's gonna take care of it for you. So what did they add? They added...
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They actually do a lot of stuff. They've added audio alerts for
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professional monitoring. Oh, that is professional. Better real-time
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conversations with their two-way talk system. Yeah, they've, I don't know, they
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keep doing things. It surprises me to be honest. But I'll tell you this thing,
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rock-solid like still works like the day I bought it I've had this thing since
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January 2016 I do not we do not have problems with it and it doesn't you know
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it doesn't go off all the time you know like it's not like one of it's not very
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sensitive but I know it's still working like if we leave the blinds open or
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whatever like sunlight can still affect it just like any of these things but
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that canary that's still that is still going that thing and I think it's
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awesome. That's great. I've looked for a while like could I find something that
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did everything in one unit? No, it's still the only one. What we like about it is
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it's always doing it you know it's always available like for video calling
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when we want it, turns on and off when like the video camera turn on off when
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when we wanted to, has a speaker in it, has like a heat sensor, smoke sensor,
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everything all in one new unit. I think it's awesome and I love it and it's
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not that expensive to run as the service. I've been very happy the whole time.
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They now seem they give you free cameras if you sign up for the service now so
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you know I can't speak to the longevity of Canary like I'm not necessarily
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advocating people jump in now but we are still very happy with ours. Should I go
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next yeah we're back to the Robin again we're back we're back to me okay neither
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neither me or Steven have expansive balconies to talk about so right right so
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the kitchen is a bit more interesting for me I have another LogiCircle 2
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which I mentioned before more you lights we have two of them now we have the
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original HomePod is back because as I mentioned the while back the echo is
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gone again. Alexa is gone once. We actually sold... And it is impossible to keep up with... Look it's very
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easy and I'm telling you I sold the echoes again. The experiment did not
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last even even a year I think. They're gone. They've been purchased by a close
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friend of ours and they now live in a better home which is actually a dense
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school but still. That is a better home. It is a better home. They're actually using
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the intercom feature at the school with the two echoes it's in a very clever way
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it's nice. So now we are back to have the original home pod, one of those
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one of the home pods that I physically bought in America and the
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last WWDC that I attended in person so it's a nice gift from that era that it's
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it's never coming back.
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- You were your own Big Apple Buddy.
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- Yes, I was my own Big Apple Buddy
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before Big Apple Buddy existed.
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So there's a HomePod that we mostly use for,
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so it's set in English.
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I could set it in Italian
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because it's now available as an option,
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but I didn't because of,
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like Sylvia never uses the HomePod via voice.
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I occasionally do,
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And at this point, I would prefer to ask questions
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to the assistant in English.
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I would feel kind of weird asking them in Italian.
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I don't know why.
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Well, no, I guess I know why.
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All of my other devices are set to English.
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I use Siri in English.
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I wouldn't even know.
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Like, I'm actually using-- like, my Italian is getting worse.
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My friends are making fun of me.
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Silvia is making fun of me, but I'm also kind of concerned.
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Like, it was getting worse before,
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but now it's gotten much worse.
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Like I tried because I very rarely, especially like writing in Italian,
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it's very concerning.
00:51:36
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Like I, you know, I write in English, I talk in English a lot of hours each day.
00:51:41
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And the pandemic happened and we've been in isolation a lot.
00:51:47
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And is Sylvia just more forgiving?
00:51:48
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Oh, Sylvia is getting worse too, actually.
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In terms of like using like English words instead of Italian words.
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Oh, because you two speak in Italian to each other.
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We do, we do, we do.
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But it's sort of become this hybrid language at this point.
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Yeah, it's very weird and funny
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and concerning at the same time.
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Anyway, we mostly use the HomePod as an AirPlay receiver
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in the music app, you know, selecting as a destination.
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Then we have an Apple TV that we use
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when we want to watch Netflix or something, you know,
00:52:19
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at dinner instead of regular television.
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This is an Apple TV 4K.
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I upgraded the remote last year, and it's very good.
00:52:28
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Very good remote that I also mentioned
00:52:31
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in the Six Colors Report Card.
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The latest addition to the kitchen
00:52:37
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that is not a HomeKit device at all, but is essential,
00:52:42
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because it's a home server that I use for something else,
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it's an Intel NUC.
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We mentioned this one before.
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It sits above my TV, right next to the modem from my ISP.
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I love it. I love that little thing. It acts as a music server for me.
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Runs the excellent Roon, that's R-O-O-N. It runs the excellent Roon software with my personal
00:53:08
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offline music library that I then stream and listen to with the setup that I will describe
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for the bedroom later. But yes, this one lives in the kitchen, it's plugged into my Orbi
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via ethernet and it's very tiny and compact and it's been running for months without having
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to ever reboot it.
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It's super reliable, I love it.
00:53:35
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It's amazing to me how much love the Apple TV remote got.
00:53:40
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I mean, in the episode of Upgrade, Jason was like, "Yeah, I burned out my whole TV setup
00:53:45
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because this remote was so good."
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Mm-hmm, great remote.
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Pretty wild.
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In my kitchen I have the only remaining big home pot.
00:53:55
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I had three, two have died, the one in the kitchen lives on, and it's great in the kitchen,
00:54:04
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The multiple timer thing is a lot better.
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The sound is still amazing, and I don't have any plans on replacing that if and until it
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One new thing in the kitchen is the addition of some hue light strips under our cabinets
00:54:25
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that shine down on the countertops.
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We have not had under cabinet lighting in our kitchen and we looked at some options.
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At some point early on in the pandemic I got some like regular just LED kind of bar lights
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you could touch and they would come on.
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But they ended up not really being bright enough and they were a little bit finicky
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And so I was like, well, I know the hue light strip stuff works really well.
00:54:53
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When we get to the office, I have a lot of hue light stuff out here.
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Let me just get a light strip for that.
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So I have that running under a couple of cabinets and I have a scene in HomeKit so we can just
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say turn cabinet light on and it comes to the brightness and the color temperature we
00:55:10
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But of course it can be any color or any brightness.
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So sometimes it's fun to mix that up.
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And it's been like a nice fun addition in the kitchen to have that hue light strip.
00:55:23
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I think if I were going to, you know, if we were like do a kitchen from the start, I would
00:55:30
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not use, like this is overkill probably for our use.
00:55:35
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And there's a lot of like real like nice options for like kitchen lighting.
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But as far as a retrofit, I was pretty happy with how it came out.
00:55:41
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Do you stick them on like you stick them on with the way that they like the adhesive that comes on the back of them?
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Yes, and then I did the same thing out here. I got a metal staple that's wide enough
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so it doesn't puncture the light strip right and
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Put that there as well to help hold it up and it's it's been fine. Okay now
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It's not like over the stove or anything. There's not like a lot of steam or humidity
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Where it is, you know, that would be a factor I think but it's kind of off to the side in the kitchen
00:56:12
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It's been fine for probably going on a year. Say your kitchen. That's my kitchen. That's it
00:56:18
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We've already done the entrance. So the door is open
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You can come in
00:56:23
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To the kitchen in my home. I only have one small home thing in my entire kitchen a robot wait
00:56:31
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No, it's the echo show
00:56:36
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So we use one of the... so like we are a split household like for the way that we
00:56:43
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interact with our smart devices. It's not that like one of us chooses one over the other
00:56:49
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for all the time or whatever. Like I'm sometimes I will ask the Echo and sometimes I will ask Siri.
00:56:55
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But like for us there are some stuff that like the Echo does and it just does better than the HomePod. Like I've mentioned it
00:57:01
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before but you know, we use a shopping service that has an
00:57:05
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echo skill that allows us to add things directly to our shopping list and it's
00:57:10
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such a killer feature for me where it's like I'm cooking and I have used the
00:57:14
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last of a certain ingredient and I can just add it to the actual cart of our
00:57:21
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grocery provider. That's pretty cool. Like that is so much better than adding it
00:57:26
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anywhere else because I add it anywhere else I still gotta add it to the cart
00:57:29
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later on. So still things like that measurements and stuff like that I much
00:57:33
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prefer having a screen than just having it audio. Our echo show has been getting
00:57:38
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a bit long in the tooth I think we have the second generation which we got in
00:57:43
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2019. Sometimes it's a little slow to respond like it feels like it's genuine
00:57:49
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like getting old like a person gets old like it sometimes it gets a little
00:57:53
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confused or like you'll ask it to do something and it can't hear you. This is the saddest thing I've ever heard about a robot.
00:58:01
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Sometimes, sometimes like the screen is black, like it's fallen asleep or something.
00:58:06
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It's really weird, genuinely it's really weird.
00:58:11
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We also use it for like a digital photo frame kind of thing, you know?
00:58:16
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Like we will have, we have like images of some of our favorite vacations and playing on a loop.
00:58:24
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So I think I'm going to upgrade this.
00:58:25
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I would love Apple to make a product like this.
00:58:27
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I don't know if they're going to, even if they do,
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I don't think it's going to do everything that I want in the way that I want it to.
00:58:32
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So we're probably going to remain with the Echo Show.
00:58:35
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And plus I'll say that there's like a thing that we'll do is like,
00:58:39
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we'll say like the name of the assistant, whether it's Siri or Alexa,
00:58:42
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we'll just say like, turn on living room.
00:58:44
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And like in it with the Echo that just turns on the lights.
00:58:48
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But with Siri, it turns on everything.
00:58:52
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The TV comes on, everything comes on.
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And like, that's not what I want it to do.
00:58:57
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and I also just really like that command.
00:58:59
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And the way I get around it,
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'cause I do ask Siri this a lot,
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is I'll just say living room lights and it works.
00:59:05
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- You just have to be a little bit more specific with it.
00:59:07
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The other way to do it is to set scenes
00:59:09
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and then call the scene name.
00:59:11
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But HomeKit could be--
00:59:14
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- Siri doesn't like it because the name
00:59:15
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and the scene are the same.
00:59:16
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And I found that to be inconsistent.
00:59:18
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I found it to be less inconsistent with the echo.
00:59:21
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Look, with the echo, it kind of does it
00:59:22
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the way that I expect it to.
00:59:23
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- Yeah, I was gonna say HomeKit sort of
00:59:25
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makes bad assumptions sometimes
00:59:28
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with some of the voice commands.
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So if you're all home kit, like I have no,
00:59:32
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I mean, I have a, what,
00:59:33
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like the little baby Amazon Echo Show out here,
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I don't wanna use it very much,
00:59:37
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it's kind of over on the shelf,
00:59:38
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basically being a fancy clock,
00:59:39
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but with home kit, you kind of have to like work around
00:59:42
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some of that stuff.
00:59:44
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And that's a little frustrating
00:59:45
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because when you're setting it up,
00:59:47
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to Federica's point earlier,
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which is like a really good point about all this stuff,
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you have to do this in a way,
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like if you live with other people,
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that they have to be able to use it.
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And if it's like, oh, we have to say this Cernit texturing
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in just the right way, or everything will come on
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or everything will go off and you just meant the light.
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It's like, that makes it frustrating for other people to use
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who aren't the nerds or who--
01:00:08
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- And this is, I know Adina would not accept the fact
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that she now has to be specific.
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Like she just internalized the light.
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And I honestly, most of the time will ask the Echo
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to turn the lights on and off just as simpler.
01:00:20
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But in general, I prefer HomeKit
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for the smart home automation stuff.
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Everything I buy, I try and make sure
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that it's home kit enabled,
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just because I find it to be fast
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and I like having it all on my iPhone,
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just like all in control center or whatever.
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It's like typically what I'll use.
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But you will hear as I go through,
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I don't have a lot of home stuff at home.
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I have more at the studio,
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but even then I think I'm,
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compared to the two of you,
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I actually think I'm the most basic of the three of us.
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So, but yeah, that's it for my kitchen,
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just the Echo Show.
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- Okay, I would be super into a home pod with a screen.
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I think that'd be really cool.
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And I would put it in the kitchen.
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That's where it would go for me, for sure.
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- That would be my hope, right?
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That I could replace what I have, but I don't know.
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- All right, my hallway is very simple.
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I only have two devices, three if you count
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the Dyson hot and cool fan that we have,
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but it's not HomeKit compatible.
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used to be HomeKit compatible via Homebridge two years ago,
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but I found that eventually too unreliable to keep it around
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for my taste.
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And so now we control the Dyson fan using the remote,
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because it comes with a physical remote,
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or via the Dyson app on our iPhones.
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We do have, though, HomePod Mini.
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So this is one of the two HomePod Minis that we have.
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This used to be, by the way, these two HomePod Minis, they used to be a stereo pair in the
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bedroom for the LG TV that we have, using the ARC sound out thing, but that also turned
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out to be too unreliable for our taste, and so we split up the stereo pair, and we just
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went back to using a HomePod Mini in the hallway, and another in the bedroom I'll talk about
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So in the hallway we have this IKEA cabinet with a HomePod Mini on top of it and a LogiCircle2
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No smart lights here, just this HomePod Mini that we use to put on some background music
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when we want.
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Otherwise it also serves as another Thread Radio in the house.
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So the hallway is very simple, Dyson fan that is not compatible with HomeKit, unless you
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want to use HomeBridge.
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LogiCircle to the camera and a white HomePod Mini.
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- I don't have a hallway.
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I mean, I do have a hallway.
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- I don't have a hallway, really.
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But it's the entrance for me.
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The entrance and the hallway are one and the same thing.
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It's all I have.
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- I guess I'll just do like what I labeled in my section,
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interior rooms.
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So just kind of like stuff that's randomly in the house.
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So we have a white HomePod Mini in Mary and I's bedroom.
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It replaced a full blown HomePod when it died.
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I would do yellow probably for our room, or maybe blue,
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but I bought it before the colors came out.
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I have iHome Smart Plugs.
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I have several of them.
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Some of them are seasonal,
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like I use some for Christmas lights,
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but I have one that's permanently like in the den,
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one in the living room and one in the bedroom.
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And they just put regular, in two cases, floor lamps,
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the ones like a bedside lamp into HomeKit.
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And the iHome switches just plug into the outlet,
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the lamp plugs into the front of it,
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and it just toggles on and off with a command.
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It also works with the Amazon Echo family of products.
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There's a lot of HomeKit only,
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or Amazon Echo only plugs now.
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I bought these a long time ago,
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and there is an iHome app that you can use,
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although they also talk directly to HomeKit.
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I keep the iHome app around because,
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in case you need to update one,
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or if anything's acting weird,
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you can do a reset with the iHome app.
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If I were to replace these now,
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I would look for something that was just HomeKit native
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100% that you didn't need its own app
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to kind of be the intermediate step.
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But I did get the job done.
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My only complaint, and I ran into this the other day
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after my power came back out of the storm,
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is that these things don't rejoin the network
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like the right way,
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or it may be that my network takes longer to come up
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than these things,
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but if the power's out and the power comes back on,
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I have to like go around and unplug all these things
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and plug them back in for it to see the wifi.
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So maybe it's like a order of operations thing.
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And that's really annoying.
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Like maybe they just give up trying to connect
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to the network after a few seconds, I don't know.
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But it's something that I've noticed that if anything weird
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happens with the network or the power,
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these things often need a reset.
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So I just have to go around and unplug them
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and plug them back in like some sort of caveman.
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And then lastly, we spoke about this in previous episodes,
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we bought our first OLED TV last year.
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We got the 48 inch LG, the exact same TV Myke,
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you and Adina have.
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- It's fantastic.
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Man, I just had no idea how good TVs were
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'cause my last one I bought in like 2010.
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But it's really great.
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We have the Apple TV, the new one,
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or maybe not the new new one, but the one before it,
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the first 4K one with the new remote
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and a Sonos Beam as the soundbar.
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And I don't really use the Sonos Beam on its own,
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although it is available for AirPlay and HomeKit stuff,
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but I don't, I just basically just use it as a soundbar.
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But what is nice is the LG TV is in home kit
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and you can airplay directly to it without the Apple TV.
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So I can tell Siri just to turn off the TV
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or turn on the TV and that works perfectly.
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I've been really impressed with that.
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I really love this LG OLED.
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Everyone says they're really good and everyone is correct.
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That's been a really nice addition to our house
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over the last, I guess maybe year or so.
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- I guess you can use the Sonos Beam
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like a Sonos too, right?
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Not just airplay like it's just it's the Sonos
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And I think I would if our TV our TVs like not in our main like living space like my house
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Has like a big living room dining room as you come in and then it's kind of like a TV room
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We're like a separate den and that's where the television is
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And so that room is not huge if that if our TV was in the big open space
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I would probably use the Sonos beam as a speaker
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But we have the HomePod not far away.
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So I just didn't really pan out that I'm using it for all the features.
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So I could have gone cheaper with my soundbar.
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I kind of regret the Beam purchase, honestly, but it is what it is at this point.
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Alright, so I'll do my living room now.
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So we have a stereo pair of the original HomePod there.
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Still going great.
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We use that attached to our Apple TV.
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Like it's basically just our TV speakers.
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It's kind of the only thing we use it for.
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put music on it occasionally but we're not really big like just have music on
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in the house people. Hue lights we have like hue lamps there we have the same
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LG OLED Steven. I think the only thing that is unique for us that you don't
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have is we have a power strip by a company called Meros. Mm-hmm. These are
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available on Amazon. They're really cool. They're like they're power strips where
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you can turn the whole thing on and off or it's got like four plugs and a bunch
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USBs and you can set it to turn each one of them on and off whenever you want and
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on a schedule and it's all in HomeKit. I really like that actually. Very easy to
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automate it and stuff like that. Yeah. It's a cool, it's a really cool product.
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That's our living room. I don't have a ton of stuff at home I don't think. I know
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when you first set it up you had issues with the HomePod stereo pairing in the
01:08:20
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Apple TV. Has that gotten better over time with subsequent updates? It's 100%
01:08:23
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fixed. Really? Absolutely 100% fixed. Yeah I don't have any problems at all.
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And can you use the Minis as a stereo pair now?
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Stereo pair? Yes.
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Okay. Obviously not going to sound as good.
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I bet your HomePod stereo pair sounds awesome.
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Sounds so good.
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Yeah, I'm actually really pleased that we did it.
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It really sounds excellent.
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I'm sure the Minis sound good too,
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but this sounds real good.
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So I'm very happy that we ended up
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kind of leaning into that and doing it.
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All right, let's take a break here,
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and then we will finish our round room robin
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Alright, the last room of my house is the bedroom and...
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It's where the magic happens.
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It's where... this is actually where the fun happens, but like for real, and I'm especially happy with my desk setup right now.
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I don't have a dedicated office space. My office has a desk in the corner of our bedroom.
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That's for the special business. It's in there.
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This is where I'm talking to you from right now.
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I like it, no, I like it.
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standard stuff first. We have an LG B7 from 2017, 55-inch OLED TV. We love it. I would eventually
01:11:29
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like an upgrade for 120Hz refresh, HDMI 2.1, that kind of stuff, but this still works absolutely fine
01:11:38
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for my PS5, for my Apple TV, and the picture quality is great. We love it. We use it a ton.
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We watch a ton of movies and TV shows in the bedroom before sleep or after dinner.
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It's very comfy and big and beautiful. We love the LG makes good televisions.
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There's an Apple TV, like I mentioned. We also upgraded the Siri remote here.
01:12:02
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And the second HomePod mini is also in the bedroom on a shelf next to an e-room sensor.
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This is another indoor temperature and humidity sensor. We have a bit of a humidity problem in the
01:12:18
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winter season over here, so it's important to keep an eye on it. We have a dehumidifier, but it's not
01:12:25
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smart at all. It's a pretty traditional one, with a basic display, no wi-fi, no Bluetooth or anything,
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and when necessary, it's got wheels on it, so we can carry it from the bathroom into the
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the bedroom to dehumidify a little bit. The fun stuff is at my desk. Now, I've been working
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on this setup for the past three years, and you guys know me, a hobby of mine besides
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video games and consoles in general, it's music equipment.
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It's a scrubbling, man. It all comes down to the Scrubble, right? At the end of the
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we do all this for no other reason than the scrubbling.
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Just for the scrubble.
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It's all for the...
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I do it for the scrubbling, I'll be honest.
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I do it all because of that.
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We don't have kids, but we do have the scrubbles.
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So it's all in the name of the scrubbling.
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All right, so last year I upgraded my desktop deck
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to a bigger, more powerful, better sounding model.
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It's still a Matrix Audio DAC,
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but I upgraded from a Matrix Audio Mini iPro 3
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to the bigger, nicer,
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Matrix Audio Saber 3.
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- Oh good, yeah, that's the one.
01:14:00
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- Well, yeah, I know you were gonna make fun of this.
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I don't care. - They said the previous one,
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specific loads could kill people.
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Please that you've moved to this one.
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- Yes, so you guys can make fun of it as much as you want.
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I absolutely love my DAC.
01:14:17
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And I mention it in the context of home automation
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because it's also an AirPlay receiver.
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It supports AirPlay 2 and it shows up in HomeKit
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as an AirPlay device, which is a nice touch.
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But the DAC is important for a couple of reasons.
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It's a Rune-certified playback destination device,
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meaning that in the Rune software,
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I can select my X Saber 3 as a playback destination device.
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However, the DAC alone wouldn't do much
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because on top of it, there's my also new,
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well, new, I got it last year.
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It's been with us for a few months now.
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Milo is here.
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specifically Milo hey man I'm gonna post a picture in the discord of my setup
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Milo is my new best friend Milo is my headphone amp 24,240
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scrabbles that's a lot of scrabbles man look that's not Milo Milo is the black
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thing on top of the deck with that with the with the fin spoken out of it that's
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That's the giant hintsink that it's got.
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You gotta keep that Ogg Vorbis cool, you know?
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Yeah, it's the flak, it's the flak, man, come on.
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Ogg Vorbis, I'm not an animal, come on.
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There's a real interesting scale issue with this image,
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like where Milo originally looks small, and then when you start looking at the other things around it,
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it's like, "Oh, Milo's a big boy."
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Milo is a chunky boy.
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He's a big old boy.
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Big old boy that's got a ton of power inside of it.
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He had to get a special power condition cable for it and everything.
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Anyway, it's one of the few amps that can power my headphones.
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It's a whole thing, I'm super happy with it, it sounds incredible.
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I got it from this family-run business based out of San Jose in California.
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This is actually like a family-run company, very old school, I love it.
01:16:19
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talk directly to the guy to get this handmade for you. It's an incredible experience, super
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fun and kind people. If I ever make it back to San Jose, I want to go visit their store,
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because they have like a sort of like showroom, museum of sorts. Very good people, very cool
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experience purchasing this and waiting for this to come to Italy. And most of all, it sounds
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incredible. So what's nice about this is, usually I just use Rune to stream my
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FLAC library to the DAC that sends its signal to the amp, and I listen with my headphones.
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But I can also choose, if I want to listen at lower quality, but if I just want to try something
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from Apple Music or from any other AirPlay source, I can. And I usually do that if I
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want to try something out on Apple Music before actually buying the album and purchasing the
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album for my offline personal music collection. The DAC shows up in Control Center, it shows
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up in HomeKit, and I can control playback there. It's very nice. It's a nice way to
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to try something out on Apple Music
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before committing to a full-on purchase.
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- Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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I'm looking at the website for the Milo,
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the Wells Audio.
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I just wanna share the name to some of their other products.
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So you have Milo, you have Commander.
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That thing is huge.
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You have Majestic.
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You want to get enigma one the load on the enigma one could sometimes kill people. Yeah. Yeah head trip head trip to whoa
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Head trip to level two. That's the real as the real one. That one's $15,000 by the way, so don't don't buy that
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Look at the last one in the list dragon dragon
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One is the real deal it doesn't have a price it doesn't have a price
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There's no price on it.
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Oh, wait, hang on.
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No, there kind of is.
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Level three Dragon Tube headphone amplifier, $5,500.
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I can't tell.
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This company makes serious things, don't they?
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I think maybe even more than serious,
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this all looks handmade.
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And not in a bad way.
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Just looks like someone's putting this together.
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This is what their website says.
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All Wells Audio products are custom built in the USA
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for the best parts money can buy,
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allowing us to accommodate special feature requests
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by customers.
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And then there's a biting lip emoji, that's weird.
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- In my case, I wanted to have a specific knob
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for the volume.
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And so I got this,
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I believe it's called the Goldpoint Attenuator.
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Maybe you can pick up the nice sound that it makes.
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Hold on, let's see.
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[typing sounds]
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Yeah, okay. That's a big old dial.
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Yeah. It's a very nice feel and a very nice way to control volume.
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Anyway, the last item on my desk, I actually need to thank one of my idols from my teenage years.
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Back when I used to be in high school, I used to read this music website called Absolute Punk.
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Now, Absolute Punk, you've probably been on the forums, that was back in the MySpace era.
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People my age, people my age, you all know what I'm talking about.
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You know, when Fallout Boy were a new band, you know, you've been on Absolute Punk.
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Yeah, just people my age and your age.
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That generation, you know what I mean.
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Nobody, you know, that generation.
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Maybe Stevens, age two, but like people...
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Oh yeah, I'm familiar with this.
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Okay, well, I don't think you are, but I'll believe you for the sake of the show.
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Absolute Punk is now known as Chorus FM.
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It's my favorite music website, and Jason Tate still writes Chorus FM.
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Now, Jason, a few months ago, did this very cool side project that we also linked on Mac
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Stories, I believe.
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Jason turned a Raspberry Pi into a portable standalone display, this is what Myke was
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making fun of a few minutes ago, for your Last.fm scroubles.
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So this is a tiny, square-shaped display that in real time updates and shows you a bunch
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of stats from your Last.fm account.
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And I thought that was an... because it updates in real time, as you start listening to something,
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in apps like Marvis, for example, on iPhone and iPad, which is an Apple Music client,
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or on the Mac, you can listen in the music app, but then have something like Neptunes,
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for example, that instantly scrabbles what you're listening to.
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In real time, this shows up on the Raspberry Pi display.
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It's basically a physical, now playing screen.
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And I loved the idea so much that I ordered the parts, and actually a bunch of them had
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to be shipped to me from the Voorhis family.
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Some parts started in Chicago, went to Ireland, and then from Dublin they came to Rome.
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So thank you to the Voorhis family, as always, for the assistance here.
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I built it all.
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It took me a few tries to... because you're getting essentially this Raspberry Pi Zero,
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it's called.
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You're getting just the board of a Raspberry Pi, and then you connect the display.
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And then you need to follow a bunch of instructions, but it was also a weekend project for me,
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and now it's done, it's set up, and when music is playing, it shows up on the Raspberry Pi.
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music is not playing, I get stats, which I also posted with the photo on Discord. So
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that's my desk. It's very fun. It's a lot of Scrobbles. Yeah. Every day is Scrobblin'.
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I think I made that joke last time. I think you did. You always do. It never gets old,
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and I understand why you do. Thanks. I think. I mean, I'm an easy target with the Scrobbling,
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So I get it, I get it.
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Alright my office.
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If you saw my video tour I did on my YouTube channel, you've seen a lot of this, but lots
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of hue lights in here.
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I've got one in my desk lamp.
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I've got two sets of shelves.
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They have the hue strip lights on them so I can control them.
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I have each shelving unit as a group and so I can say like turn on wood shelves and they're
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all three levels come on all at once.
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handy. I have an iHome temperature and humidity sensor so it just plugs into
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the wall and it basically just reports temperature humidity into home kit so I
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can see like Federico said I have a humidity issue out here sometimes and
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I run a dehumidifier and that can kind of keep me in the loop about what's
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going on out here as far as that's concerned. It got really cold in here and
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the power was out I would imagine but in that power so how cold nobody knows.
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a pair of HomePods Mini in orange and they sound pretty good as a pair. I
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realized after I talked to you about that a second ago, Myke, that I do have a
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pair of them and they sound pretty good. So I have a set of those and then the
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sort of the wildest thing on my whole HomeKit network or I guess my SmartHome
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network because these aren't like... these are in HomeKit via HardwareBridge
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which a lot of these, I mean, HUDA is the same thing,
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a lot of these companies have like a bridge
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that you plug into power and ethernet
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and it talks to their accessories and it talks to HomeKit.
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But I have two smart shades over the two big windows
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in my new studio from a company called Serena,
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which are actually owned by Lutron,
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they make the smart light switches and stuff.
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And they're like custom made to fit these windows,
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you pick the color and everything.
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By far one of the biggest expenses
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putting this office together but it's fantastic to have them in HomeKit so I
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can open or close them via Siri or buttons on my stream deck or the home
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app but I also have an automation setup that 15 minutes before sunset close the
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shades and so they just you know every day 15 minutes before sunset if they're
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not already closed, then they'll close themselves and they're great.
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I cannot recommend them due to the expense. This is Quinn Nelson's fault. I was
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talking to him about outfitting HomeKit stuff. He's like, "You need these." He's a
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very bad influence, but here they are and it's pretty cool to have shades
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on your smart home network, I gotta say. Why do Lutron have so many brand
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names it's weird right right like cassette a by Lutron Serena by Lutron
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why not just they're almost worse than the walls audio family of maybe like the
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thing with the walls audio thing is they're all just single products right
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that they make we're like Lutron have like all these sub brands that make
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multiple products is it also the cassette a but yeah you said about
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Lutron and I see one here it's like outdoor smart plug from Caseta by Lutron
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why not just call it the Lutron outdoor smart plug? Like why does it if you're gonna also
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always put Lutron in there there's no point sub-branding it. It reminds me of
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that meme image with the label on the t-shirt Mark Jacobs by Mark Jacobs by
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Marc Jacobs. Marc by Marc Jacobs by Marc Jacobs.
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For Marc Jacobs.
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They look nice, those shades. They're there.
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Is that the end of the pod cabin? I think it is. I was trying to think about other
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smart home stuff. I guess I can talk about my network a little bit if we
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wanted to go that deep. Well, I've still got two more rooms to go. Okay, why don't
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don't you take us to your bedroom and then we'll loop back around. Because we've done a really bad
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job of like, for some reason Stephen had interior rooms not bedroom, I don't know. Yeah it's a
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lumpy Robin today. So take us to your bedroom and then Federica and then we can just like talk about
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our network so quick and be done. But I haven't done the studio yet. Oh yeah. Oh god this is gonna
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go on forever. Well I mean I can't be held responsible for this. Federica you started the round Robin by
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doing two rooms so you know I wanted to speed it up you know it's a mega no no
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bedroom echo dot hue lamp Dyson hot and cool fan that's it oh I forgot to talk
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about a room burrelly we have a room yeah I do too it's rolling around
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somewhere so that's the end of the bedroom now we can move back around to
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Federico again I'm done like I got nothing else to Federico's done so now
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we move back around again to Steve's small apartment I was gonna mention my
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network I've got three wired Eero Pro base stations which is fantastic if you
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use something like Eero or Linksys or any other sort of mesh network and you
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can do it and a lot of people like Federico can't be doing a bunch of holes
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and running wires everywhere but if you can I really recommend having your base
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stations all wired with Ethernet so they use Ethernet as the backhaul I found it
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to be much more reliable and faster having done that.
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And so a couple of era pro base stations in the house
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and one out here in the studio,
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there is ethernet linking the studio back to the house.
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It's been in place now since I built this
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the first time around.
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And especially when you're doing things like cameras
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that may be on the outside of the house
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or the more smart homes that you add,
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it's network congestion.
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And so if you're finding issues with connectivity
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with some of this stuff,
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Definitely check out Mesh Networking.
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I like your stuff, they've been a sponsor.
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But a lot of the good brands out there too.
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It can be worth the sort of investment.
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And it's a pain, right?
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It's a pain to redo your network.
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But if you're adding more and more smart home stuff,
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like the network is really the glue
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that holds it all together.
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And that's really why I wanted to mention it.
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- I don't think this is gonna take me very long
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to do at the studio 'cause I have a lot of the same product.
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The only thing, we have a Ring security system.
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We have the previous version,
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the one that is now but the only difference is just the way it looks. I like it. It's
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got like one box, it's got everything I needed like the alarm system, security, like the
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sensors and all that kind of stuff. I got one too. Couple of cameras. In the pod cabin.
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We have some Hue lamps. And you know sharks. There's sharks circling. Yeah, they do that
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too. It's funny how Ring provide that but Ring Sharks is a real good service. I have
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some Hue lamps and I have a Hue switch for those lamps as well. Linked just so I could
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I have that by the door in case I just want to turn it off when I'm leaving.
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I have an echo pair that I never use.
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It was a bad purchase.
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The echoes don't really do very well in this space.
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I don't know why.
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I think maybe they shouldn't have two so close to each other.
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I don't know what it is.
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It doesn't work very well.
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I have a HomePod mini.
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It's what I use to do any voice commands here because I've just got everything hooked up
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by Home with the Home app.
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accept ring. I hope that matter, which is the thing that we have not spoken about today
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because who the frick knows when it will come or what it's actually going to be. I hope
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that matter will be able to help with that, like make that better for me in the future,
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like connect these things together maybe. I have here a couple of radiators, like regular
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radiators and I have a thing that Eve make called the Eve Thermo radiator kit. So basically
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you replace the radiator valve with these smart valves and it can turn them on and off
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and you can adjust the temperature and stuff. I really like that because this studio can
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get pretty cold because it's just a big brick room and so I like that I can turn that on
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or I can automate that as well if I want to so that was a real game changer for me honestly.
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I have another one of the Dyson fans here, it's the hot and cool air purifying fan. We
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got one for home and I loved it so much I got one for here. That was before I got the
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radiator valves because I didn't know that was a thing so I was trying to use
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that to heat the room and that didn't really do a good job but I like having
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that and then an Apple TV I have a regular I have like a Panasonic TV it's
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like our old TV from home it's not very it's not smart at all and I have an
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Apple TV that I use for that I don't have any fancy speakers or anything here
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I might do a home pod mini pair here actually get like a second home pod mini
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and set them up there I might do that I haven't thought about that yet might do that
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That's Megastudio. Cool. And the round robin is complete. The robin is finally
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done around. Nice job, thank you. I think that's it. We have toured our houses,
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been down the hall, stopped in the bedroom. Yeah, Myke's door is open, so.
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Always open. You wanna come over? My door is open. Okay. You can find links to all the stuff we
01:32:16
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spoke about over on the website relay.fm/connected/384. There you can
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get in touch with feedback or follow up there's an email link there on the side
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of the page you can also join connected pro and you'll get a longer ad-free
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version of the show each and every week this week we talked about portable
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gaming like handheld pcs and emulation through dolphin was a lot of fun
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basically weird small computers are awesome that we all agree on that yes
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you can find us all online you can find Federico on Twitter as Vitici V I T I CCI
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and he's the editor-in-chief of max stories dotnet. Federico, what's going on
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at max stories? Nothing, we're just waiting for the Nintendo Direct. Nothing
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else is going on. Yes, it's a couple of hours, I'm really excited about it.
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Metroid Prime on Switch, baby! It's happening! This episode will, like, that would have
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happened. You would have been disappointed before this episode is
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released. You can also follow Myke on Twitter I M Y K E. Myke hosts a bunch of
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shows here on Relay FM. Myke what are you up to this week? I don't know man, my brain's
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falling out of my ears. I've been recording like six hours straight today. I don't know what's
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happening anymore. Go listen to Panatic 500. Go do it. I'm gonna listen. You could
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at least listen to the start. I'm gonna try to listen. Yeah I want to listen to you
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all cry together then that'll be it we are known to do that I've been in person
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when it's happened while recording and while not recording both very intense
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around the two of you couple of cry guys pull it together you can follow me on
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Twitter as is mh did you hear that everyone that was some toxic masculinity
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from Steven there wow okay you know they won't accept that boys can cry you know
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I'm just saying it's intense I don't say it was bad mm-hmm you said pull it
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together you know I just feel like you know let me and Brad express
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our feelings. I do think it's time to cancel you, Steven. We've all decided, we all got together.
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So I'm sorry, but yeah, you've been cancelled. So... Oh, why don't you end the show then?
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Steve, Federico, you gotta end it. You gotta end it now. You used to be able to find
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find Steven on Twitter @ismh or on his website 512pixels.net. Thanks to our sponsors this
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week. They were three sponsors, if I'm not mistaken Bombas, Fitbot and New Relic. So
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thank you to our three sponsors. All three of them. Thank you very much for your support
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and thank you to our listeners, whether you listen to the regular show or Connected Pro.
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Myke, where can people find Connected Pro? GetConnectedPro.co
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All right, thank you Michael, thank you to all the members of our Discord as well.
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You're really missing out if you don't join Discord, and until next time, say goodbye Myke.
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Arrivederci!