The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► so can you explain something to me John [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► or Casey but both of you are sports [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► people compared to me [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► okay why are the highest end video games [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► called triple AAA games but in baseball [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► the triple-a teams are kind of like the [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► minor leagues [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► it's just the same it's the same word [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► using two different contexts don't try [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► to connect them [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► that's a terrible answer that that's not [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► even an answer that's the answer it's [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► like it's like what you know like the [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► why we park on the driveway and drive in [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► the park with whatever like its it yes [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► it's the same word and it's spelled the [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► same way you've got 3 a's what why is it [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► the the people that come when you have a [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► flat tire where is that Triple A is just [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► the same set of letters but it's not the [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► same thing [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► don't get confused about it at work this [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► week i am learning to use scala the [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► programming language and Sokka which is [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► entirely different outfit too is it's [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► callous Colorado instrument or you're [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► the ones get on learning it [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► I've everyone seems to be saying scholar [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► I'm sure to a New Yorker it's kayla i [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► was assumed it was scalar like scaling [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► you know what i mean i i've literally [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► never heard anybody ever mention it you [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► know in person and totally and it seems [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► like definitely one of the first things [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► that you should learn about languages [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► how to say it [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► it's pronounced bozell John anyway so [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► the point is I'm learning scholars gala [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► gala and it's weird it's super weird and [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► I i presume that neither of you two [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► really touched it but what the little [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► bit I've seen makes me makes it very [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► obvious that not only is it is it not [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► only does it look weird but it seems [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► like only weird people use it it's one [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► of those like esoteric languages like [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► erlang that like all the really out [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► there programmers use but most people [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► don't [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► yeah it's not as is i don't know [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► esoteric is is my understanding of say [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► like Haskell is yeah that's a good [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► example but you know I've seen some go [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► and although it looks peculiar i feel [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► like i can get the general gist of [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► what's happening if i look in an [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► arbitrary go program I I feel like even [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► before i could read objective-c and [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you'll see them see through the matrix [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► if you will [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► I could at least understand vaguely what [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► was happening in objective-c and before [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► I started to really understand Swift it [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► was very easy to at least [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► generally understand what was happening [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► in a swift app this crap is out of [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► control though and I think you know how [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► I'm how anyone who's ever written any [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► c++ ever in their lives is broken [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► well that and has this like tremendous [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► utter fear of operator overloading my [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► admittedly ignorant impression of [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► scholarly is that it's operator [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► overloading and functional programming [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► gone crazy in so like what was that we [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► were doing it we were doing something [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► that was not scholarship itself I think [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► is something related to a co which is [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► like a I don't know it's a weirdo like [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► networking framework that's a terrible [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► summary but we'll just go with it and [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► talking about this is weird [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► it's so weird well they by overloading [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► operators in doing weirdo functions and [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► the way that you can like well in [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► curried functions and the way that you [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► can like leave out crap and that's valid [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► source of scholars syntax it's as though [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► you have an entirely different language [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► like visually it looks like an entirely [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► different language even though it's all [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► completely valid scholar because they [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► went nuts with operator overloading and [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► weirdo like shortcuts and whatnot [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► it is the most peculiar thing I've ever [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► seen and beyond that using IntelliJ as [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► an IDE is a visual assault on my [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► eyeballs like it's a decent ide and it [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► does a lot of things and it's very [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► powerful but my goodness it's hideous [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it's even worse than the shouting [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► version of visual studio that's it file [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► edit view you know when it was when all [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► the menus were all caps for some reason [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► but I don't know about this one was yes [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► yes it is like in dots and 2012 no no [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► this is the 2010-2012 something like [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► that what I forget exactly what it was [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► but you know the typical windows menu [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► you know the same menu that you have the [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► mac but it sits on each window in [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► Windows anyways it was all caps for like [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► one or two generations of visual studio [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► for no good reason so it wasn't file and [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► it viewers file edit view it was like a [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► wrestler shouting at you constantly [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► Wow anyway so in summary scholars [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► SuperDuper weird and I don't know what [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► to make of it and i don't think i think [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► it and I and I can't tell if that's just [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► because I'm ignorant [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► and i'm still learning it and I can't [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► see the matrix if you will or see [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► through the matrix i guess but man is it [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► weird and you know in summary i guess [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► this is what being a programmer feels [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► like the whole if you had a proper [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► grammar you would have been introduced [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► all the concepts they're encountering in [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► the language that you choose to call [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► scala they wouldn't be able to you just [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► like oh my god sent to expedite in this [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► language the advantage of hanging out in [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► a multi-paradigm programming languages [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► languages go don't seem that weird and [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► everyone's got their own syntax is the [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► same reason that you felt comfortable [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► with like go and Swift is because like [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► I've seen structures and classes and [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► methods and types and inheritance [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► partying all night before so this is [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► just a different syntax for doing that [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► type of stuff and I've seen it you know [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► exceptions and case statements and you [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► know maybe options for a little new but [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► you know one new concept is not too hard [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► for you to swallow but if Scarlett has a [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► whole bunch of stuff that you haven't [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► seen before you get the weird syntax [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► also weird syntax for a thing you [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► haven't even done in a different syntax [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► before that you can like map it to you [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► know well that's the thing is that you [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► know as I've said many times in the past [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► I think swift is kind of everyone can [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► look at swift and see their their [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► preferred programming language you like [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► I feel like you as a programmer John [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► could look at swift and say oh yeah they [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► totally stole that from us and Marco is [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► someone who does whatever you do with [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► PHP you can look at that and say oh yeah [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► that's how this one should have worked [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► in PHP but doesn't and as a c-sharp [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► development and marketing objective c [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► developer you know you can see that [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► stuff and Swift whereas in Scotland [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► install I can see some of the same stuff [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► like I can see when you when you do very [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► arm I guess what kind of rudimentary is [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► the word I'm looking for but like basic [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► scholar i can see oh yes with took that [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► from scholar like optionals weigh [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► options work is a great example like [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► that taken from scott like all these let [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► you get to the family tree it's like for [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► example is almost nothing in PHP that [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► wasn't you no it didn't come from pearl [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► shell or something else before like so [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► there's a big family tree of things just [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► depends on like this is the first [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► language you encounter this stuff [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► forever you will think oh that's from [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► scholar but really it's totally not it's [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► something realistic or whatever and yeah [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► yeah no that's totally fair but you see [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► what I'm driving at right is that basic [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► scholar that we're we're things make [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► sense and it's like written for news [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► that i can understand right but then you [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► start getting this crazy crap we're so [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► as an example acha which is again this [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► like I'm gonna I'm gonna summarize it is [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► like a networking like client-server [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► framework that's completely unfair but [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► III can't come up with a better way to [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► summarize it so the way you you send a [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► message in using acha with in Scala is [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► you do like either the client or the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► server so the line of code would read [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► for example server friend print because [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► servers a function ! message so ! has [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► been presumably operator overloaded to [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► send a message that you define on the [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► right-hand side of line to the [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► destination to find on the left-hand [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► side line i know this is really hard to [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► verbally basket is like source code on [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► podcast is kind of amazing this is this [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► is this is not going well for me but but [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► but you don't like it's just imagine [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► it's a function call an exclamation [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► point and then a variable like what what [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► the hell is happening here and and I [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► again I think a lot of this is probably [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► my problem in and if this makes in the [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► show we're gonna get all the scale of [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► people yelling at me about how I just [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► don't know what I'm talking about which [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► is accurate but as it as someone who's [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► new to it but it's been writing code [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► professionally for over a decade in you [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► know casually for 20 years now [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► man is it weird and different and I [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► think a lot of this it comes down to [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► almost every programming language I've [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► done looks or I think traces itself back [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► to see and yes on the surface colleges [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► to but I feel like there's the the [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► family tree diverged and took like like [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► hunger right-ho it is scala where most [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► of the other stuff even Swift kind of [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► just march down down the line the way it [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► was supposed to do if you will with [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► scare quotes i know it's trippy I mean I [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► think a lot of what you're seeing two is [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► just like languages have have certain [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► cultures and communities around them [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► based on their attributes and and [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► there's a community so for instance like [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► you don't see a lot of cleverness in PHP [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► code that you find online you're lucky [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► if it works and the reason why is [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► because PHP is B is used by people [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► pragmatically for the most part these [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► are people who are at all skill levels [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► you know bottom to top and there's a lot [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► of people on the bottom of course [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► because it's an easy language to learn [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► if you're new be something a lot of that [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► and then even people who are good using [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► it or their 10 they tend to pick PHP [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► because it is pragmatic and it helps [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► them get some kind of job done and as [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► you get the languages that become more [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► dynamic and have all sorts of weird [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► little syntax sugar that's that's [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► possible with them [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► I mean pearls the king of this but also [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► you know you obviously see this in a [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► language Ruby was a big one for a while [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► and of course then once you go [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► functional languages then all bets are [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► off functional people are like living on [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► the planet and so as you get like more [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► more esoteric and with more clever [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► languages [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► not only are they will do the language [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► make a lot of like crazy complex [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► unreadable but cool things possible but [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► also generally more generally way more [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► skilled programmers are the ones who [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► choose to use those languages or people [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► who are language nerds who really who [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► really love the weird things you can do [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► with these different languages that you [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► that you can't easily or at all do [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► another language of the right so you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► will see people using an obscure [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► language like scaling or or Haskell in a [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► way that like they're almost showing off [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► what they can do because it's fun [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► because you know whatever that whatever [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► crazy thing they're doing they enjoy [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► doing that because they can't do that in [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► objective-c or PHP yeah I know it's [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► weird it's not getting none of this is [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► really bad it's just peculiar and and I [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► think what's frustrating to me is as low [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► as an experienced developer by no means [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► an expert industry as an experienced [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► developer it's it's very frustrating for [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► me because I feel like I'm not catching [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► on as quickly as I'd like and I feel [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► like Scala is not as approachable to [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► someone that happens to have my [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► background as other languages have been [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► it doesn't make scholar worse or bad or [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► wrong but it's just I i have not even [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► objective-c I feel like it was easier [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► for me to pick up then this and it's [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► just it's weird man super weird in any [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► case John tell me what's going on with [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► your buds earpods excuse me is that my [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► new iphone 7 to talk about last week i [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► got a new complaint talk about the fat [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► lightning connector last time [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► that's still annoys me but if you're [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► going to get over that but one thing [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► that I was accustomed to with the old [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► headphone jack iphone 6 when all my ipod [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► touches before that my ipod shuffles [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► before that was that if it was playing [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► audio and I put the earbuds in my ears [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► and then i plugged in the headphone the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► audio would change to coming out of the [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► headphones and the other thing I took [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► for granted is if I had my headphones [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► plugged in and audio was playing and hit [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► the little remote thing he would stop [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the audio from playing or started [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► depending on whether we stop you're [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► starting to sound like basic functions [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► both of them have failed multiple times [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► today playing audio I'm i think that and [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► you know I haven't quite gotten to the [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► point where I'm plug in the headphones [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► it playing out playing the speaker for [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► two seconds i plug in the headphones [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► just keeps playing through speakers [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► unplug the headphones plugged my god [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► just keeps playing through speakers like [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► whatever man you know [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► pause the thing plugging in hit play now [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► place through the headphones playing [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► through the headphones you know I'm [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► doing dishes my wife said something to [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► me I want to stop the thing so i can [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► hear hit the remote it doesn't stop [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► playing it smart again [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► nope not stopping playing the road again [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► nope not stopping playing this is no [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► you can have that you got its got to do [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► the basics when i plug in the headphones [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► the audio should start coming with a [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► black headphones like and I'm I'm [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► assuming this is a software thing so [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► there's hope of being fixed like I don't [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► think it's I have bad hardware anything [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► because it fixes itself i wait a few [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► seconds or plug the thing back in a few [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► times or you know hit play pause and the [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► thing or whatever i like it i give it a [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► big thumbs down i hope this goes away in [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► a point update to iOS it won't good i [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► haven't had this week they had this [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► experience but to be honest i've only [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► used the Lightning your pods a handful [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► of times and they have worked outside of [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► that original software issue that Scott [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► make multi is that right the guy did [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► dash super nice guy anyway that he had [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► discovered where after you would like [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► timeout it wouldn't listen to the remote [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► anywhere anymore but that apparently has [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► been fixed [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► other than that I haven't had any [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► problems have you Marco have you can [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► really use the the earpods i haven't [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► used the earpods at all the only [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► negative views are either bluetooth ones [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► for walking or [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the adapter to the old headphone jack [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► for plain headphones and and the and [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► I've bluetooth is as mediocre and [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► inconsistent as it always has been and [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► the lightning adapter sucks it functions [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► but I'm angry every time it functions [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► especially as my phone discharges itself [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► and the stupid dongle to keep track of [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► now and it really is kind of a cheap [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► piece-of-crap that I'm worried it's [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► going to snap at any moment because the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► cables about as thick as a human hair so [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► other than that it's fine i I'd yeah so [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► far we get with with the lack of air [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► pods being existing yet the whole story [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► about removing the headphone jack has [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► kind of fall on its face because it's [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► like all right well we moved the [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► headphone jack and now we have well the [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► same mediocrity we had before with some [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► things that got worse response to [TS]

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00:14:18 ◼   ► i've ever used this is a really easy a [TS]

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00:14:22 ◼   ► backblaze four years way before they [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► were a sponsor it protects you from a [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► whole class of problems that local [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► backup alone can protect you from things [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► like environmental factors fires floods [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► power surges theft [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► there's all sorts of problems where a [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► cloud backup solution will really save [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► your behind and backblaze is the one you [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► want because here's how this works [TS]

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00:14:46 ◼   ► unlimited disk space really means [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► unlimited hear anything that's connected [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► to your computer physically so it [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► doesn't network drives that it will do [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► any external drive any internal drive [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► that external drive can be as big as you [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► want it to be and back ways will back it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► up if it is connected to your computer [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► and all this is for the flat price of [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► just five bucks a month per computer so [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► if you have two computers 10 bucks a [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► month if you have one computer with six [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► terabyte drive connected to it that's [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► also that's five bucks a month it is a [TS]

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00:15:15 ◼   ► check out back plays on throttle upload [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► speeds are also very important here i [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► had problems with other providers with [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► that with backlight you don't have to [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► worry about that it's fast upload they [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► can take it as quickly as you want to [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► send it [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► they also have all sorts of restore [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► options from [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► you know basic web restore you can even [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► restore just one file so if you're [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► somewhere on vacation you want to file [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► for home computer you can go to back [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► plays and pull it off or if disaster [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► strikes [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► not only can you download things online [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► but you can have them if if you have [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► like some ridiculously large amount of [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► files that you need to restore and it's [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► gonna take you onto online you can have [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the mail you a hard drive and if you [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► send it back within 30 days they refund [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► the price of it so backblaze is great it [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► is by far my favorite online backups the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► 1i use personally and have used for [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► years even before they were sponsor and [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► I don't get a discount I pay for just [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► like everyone else i highly recommend [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► backblaze check out today [TS]

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00:16:08 ◼   ► trial you can see for yourself how good [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► it is once again backblaze dot-com / ATP [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► for the best online cloud backup thanks [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► a lot to back place for sponsoring our [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► ah most of the Internet has written in [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► to tell us that you can indeed download [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► the Grand Tour asterisk yeah that is [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► slightly accurate so I thought it was [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► pretty obvious and I did listen back to [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► what we were saying and I thought it was [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► fairly obvious that for me anyway what I [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► was trying to say was I would like a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► copy on my computer I don't want to copy [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► on my phone I don't want to copy my ipad [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► i want to copy on my computer and it [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► would be neat if that copy didn't have [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► to fall off the back of a truck that [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► does not exist so for all of you that [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► said you idiots you could have [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► downloaded Grand Tour well yes that's [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► true but it doesn't help Casey however [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► being able to download it and keep it in [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► app might have had might have helped [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► John because John I believe you were [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► saying that you didn't want to buffer [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► and you wanted to make sure it was full [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► res etc etc so in principle that would [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► have helped you i was looking for it [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► mostly to say like I demand 1080 [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► download as much as you have to so that [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► i can start watching it you know i mean [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► i guess i suppose i can sit down with [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► the whole thing first but that's you [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► know it's going to value when you sit [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► down to watch a thing especially if it's [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► getting that the crappy version i don't [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► want to say oh it's going to be [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► downloaded in 15 minutes to come back in [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► 15 minutes I wanted to buffer up as much [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► as it needs to buffer to buffer 45 [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► minutes or something you know I [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► basically wanted to say don't give me [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► the stream if you can give [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► me 1080p can't give me ten eighty then [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► just keep trickling in the 1080 until [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► you have enough that you think you can [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► start showing me in real time maybe that [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► would rather wait 15 minutes or [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► something maybe just a bad are now [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► anyway i'll try it next time I haven't [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► watched episode 2 because I heard you [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► guys say bad things about it so I'm well [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► is motivated to watch it [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► yeah it was so quick sidebar we have to [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► bring it up and I was gonna bring it up [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► wow I'm so too is from did you watch it [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► Marco no I had to spoil it I i have to i [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► keep hearing though that it is a kind of [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► a step backwards and quality so yeah I [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► don't want to spoil anything but i will [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► just summarize my thoughts by saying our [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► host seem to have forgotten that they [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► are not actors [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► oh no and yeah whoo-hoo-hoo it was bad [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► it was not good it's worth seeing like [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► so here's the thing like again no [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► spoilers I definitely laughed a fair bit [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► so in that sense it was successful but [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► half of that was laughing through the [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► cringing and half of it was generally [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► was true [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► laughter would you have left if you were [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► watching it alone [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► I understand the question i would say [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► yes but not nearly as emphatically mm [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► it's worth your time but unlike the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► first episode I wouldn't rush to watch [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► it you might even want to wait until the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► series is 0 season whatever they're [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► calling it is a disease announced its [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► kind of an American show anyway [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► wait until it's over and then go back to [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► episode 2 but yikes coming back around [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► we should also mention that breaking [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► news as of a few hours ago actually [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► apparently netflix is allowing you to [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► download stuff onto your devices as well [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► I I didn't look into this very much i [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► would guess that this is not onto a [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► computer but just onto a iOS or perhaps [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► android device but this never used to be [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► a thing there was no mechanism for [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► netflix to contribute to be able to [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► refer you to be able to download netflix [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► movies and TV shows and whatnot now [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► apparently you can which is exciting [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► there were a few thoughts about the lack [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► of the arms or ears or whatever you'd [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► like to call them on the power brick on [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► the new macbook pros [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► a lot of people thought that this was a [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► deliberate choice because the existing [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► cables do we cover this the existing [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► cable on the on the prior version with [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► magsafe oftentimes when you would Bend [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► that cable in order to wrap it around [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► those arms or years or whatever we're [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► calling them you would put a pretty [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► extreme bend on the very very end of [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► that cable the end that attaches to the [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► power brick and apparently that was just [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► a tremendous point of failure across a [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► gazillion people's power bricks and so [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► perhaps they were the reason they got [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► rid of the little ears is to prevent [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► that from happening but I agree with you [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► that I don't think that's what it's [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► about little it wasn't just the part [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► where comes out of the brick is that a [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► lot of the people's theory was that the [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► ears it you know even if you were very [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► gentle with that part merely wrapping it [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► around the little years that come out of [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► that bend radius was too sharp for the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► wire and I don't [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► well I don't buy this theory for a [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► couple reasons of the first of all many [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► people have used those years four years [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► and not a problem with it was actually [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► blow the threshold you feel like there [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► would be many more failures now i have [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► seen all the failures of the the point [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► there comes out of the brick and that is [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► just you know you're wrapping it too [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► hard or whatever but if you are gentle [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► with a wrap it around a little years I [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► feel like it is sustainable but either [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► way if people want to wrap it they're [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► going to wrap it as evidence in Marcos a [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► video that we'll talk about in the after [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► show you just wrap it around the brick [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► like it's the same radius as the ears [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► I mean I guess maybe maybe it's a little [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► now it's it's I guess yeah it may be a [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► little bit broader because the years [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► were not the same width as the block but [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► either way if people are want to wrap [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► that cable they're going to wrap that [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► cable and the People wrapped tight are [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► going to wrap it tight [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► Apple's job is to make an adapter that [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► will withstand what people do to it if [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► you can make it after that will not make [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► people need to wrap up the cable like [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► the cable magically zips back into or [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► by all means do it but if you're going [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► to make an adapter that most people when [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► they pack it in the bag want to wrap the [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► cable around something and it got the [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► square thing that I'd like to wrap it [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► around you better make that cable so [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► people can wrap it around the square [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► thing without breaking it and I think [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► for the most part they did that with the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► old adapters yes everybody breaks every [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► cable that they are [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► you know they're like sponge cutters [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► which I think was talking about in the [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► kitchen [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► some people just cable operators they [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► eventually destroy all the cables and [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► other people don't and apples cables [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► need to be more durable and strain [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► relief needs to be more robust but in [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► general I don't think apples square [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► power bricks that have existed for many [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► many years have a reputation as being [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► fatally flawed like I feel like that is [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► a workable design that they should [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► concentrate on making veterans and [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► instead of you know if the idea was [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► these years cause people to wrap things [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► and therefore the cable breaks removing [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► the ears doesn't solve that problem [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► the the cable breakers are still just [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► going to break their cable so i don't [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► think that was the reason if it was I [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► would imagine Apple would have cited at [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► some point but and if it was the reason [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► i would say Apple your job is to make [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► the cable not break not take away the [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► thing that you think people are gonna [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► wrap it around that something to like [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► you know the the argument here is and [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► out before anyone says that you know the [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► another counter argument we heard was [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► that now it isn't just carrying power [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► now the cable is a full USBC 3.1 cable [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► so it has more wires inside of it and so [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► and that's why that's why the new power [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► cable is actually noticeably thicker and [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► less flexible than the old one and end [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► to that my answer is it didn't need to [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► be necessarily like this is a cable that [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► the vast majority of people using it the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► vast majority of the time are going to [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► use as the power cable to the laptop [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► it's going to be effectively a dedicated [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► power cable [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► most people are not going to be like [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► swapping Internet between different [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► cables all the time like with you know [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► between using this cable as a power [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► cable and then unplug it from the power [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► brick using it to plug in a hard drive [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► for a few minutes like no in practice [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► most people are going to use this cable [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► as the power cable for its entire useful [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► life time you can solve that the Apple [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► way the way they used to solve that is [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► make the end that connects to the brick [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► not a USBC connector and then you just [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► make it a straight-up power connector [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► does not work as a USB connector because [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► only one is USBC the other end is some [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► weird thing that would things together [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► with is the keyboard remember the old [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► apple keyboard that supported the power [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► button the connector that went to the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► keyboard and had a kink in it and you [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► couldn't put a regular USB in there just [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► before our time anyway [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► yeah so that it used to be that there [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► was a the power button to turn on your [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► Mac was on the keyboard and to support [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► that basically just before turning on a [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► turned off computer by pressing enter on [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► the keyboard they had a special cable [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► with a special whatever and the USB at [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► taipei connector had a little V shaped [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► like a groove in it and so did the end [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► where went to the keyboards if you tried [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► to stick a regular USB type a connector [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► wouldn't go in because the little [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► rectangle would hit the little triangle [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► shaped David that was down there and [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that was your signal that all I can't [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► just take this cable and use the right [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► this is not a regular USB cable is a [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► special one so for their power brick and [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► I might be able to complain about this [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► but they have two options when they [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► could have permanently affixed the end [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► of the powerbook like the old one has [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► disadvantages too because that part [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► breaks right and the second is make it a [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► power only cable with the big thick [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► heavy gauge you know wire for the power [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► and no wires for data have a USBC [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► looking connector on one end and have [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► whatever the health connector you want [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► to put on the other end but that [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► definitely isn't USB so they would like [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► basically be a proprietary power cable [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► or whatever many solutions of this is [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► deciding that the power cable to your [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► laptop because it has to be a fully [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► functional USBC cable that you can take [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► it off and use it on a hard drive that [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► you want to keep six feet away from your [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► mac for some reason [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► hey I don't even know if that's true [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► market Marco can try it out and see if [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► it is I you know if that's true and B [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► that's not a useful application is true [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► like that's that's not useful thing to [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► yeah exactly and and I feel like to to [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► penalize all other mainstream use of [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► this computer for the fraction of people [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► who either want to keep a hard drive six [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► feet away from the computer and [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► occasionally plug it in without having [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► power or are going to break other cable [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► time like that I feel like that's it [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that's not a good trade-off like eat the [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► dissolution to some people afraid this [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► wire is not well let's make it sucks for [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► everybody like no that is not the right [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► solution here the right solution here [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► which Apple I think used to be good at [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► doing is like find a better design if [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► you need to and and do the thing that [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► that functions best for the most people [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► most of the time and every defense of of [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► this power brick design basically rests [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► on removing the usefulness of it for [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► most people to accommodate some edge [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► cases and I simply don't agree with that [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► yeah I I think you're right i'm coming [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► back around to you know well what do you [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► do to prevent this from breakin or what [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► happens if it breaks one of the [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► advantages of this new power supply [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► which I don't know if we brought this up [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► last time now but a lot of people have [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► said you know one of the advantages of [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► this new power supply is hey let's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► assume you destroy that cable by [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► whatever mechanism doesn't really matter [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► how it's a regular USBC cable so instead [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► of buying a new $80 brick you can just [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► buy a presumably maybe 10 or 20 or 30 or [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► even $40 USBC cable and your break is [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► still fine and so and that's really [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► awesome additional forty dollars for us [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► bck but I hope not i don't have the [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► famous died well but this this is like [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► these are high power USB cables that can [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► carry that much higher wattages of the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► 13 and 15 inch macbook pros compared to [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► like a little skinny ones that could [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► maybe charge the macbook one so the idea [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► that we that we can get third-party [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► replacements here i think most for the [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► most part it's gonna be pretty much only [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► Apple making these cables for a long [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► time if it might be forever you know it [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► the pc industry could decide to go a [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► different direction with these things we [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► in all likelihood it's probably going to [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► be if this cable breaks you hereby one [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► from amazon that will like melt or catch [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► fire or not charge your laptop at full [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► speed or you can go and buy apples for [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► 40 bucks like that's probably going to [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► be the answer here and so i think the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► the third party potential as like a [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► counter argument here is is kind of made [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► less significant by you can look around [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► the USBC ecosystem you can see like all [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► the stuff that's been out for the [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► macbook one so far which is now almost [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► two years old so that's how a while now [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► it was very clear from the beginning [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► like yeah yeah but it'sit's a niche [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► product Mitch whatever else that we're [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► not really and and so but is there any [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► way you can look at the ecosystem of [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► things that have become available for [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► that so far from third parties and what [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► you basically have is a mess of like [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► hubs and port splitters some of what [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► you're okay most of your crap and it's [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► kinda hard to tell which is a pitch and [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► then you have a very small number of [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► external batteries and external chargers [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► and and third-party charging cables a [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► very small number of those most of which [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► are of questionable quality i would say [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► so even after two years the third-party [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► ecosystem for us bc in the realm of like [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► high power to things like laptops has [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► barely materialized and so to to figure [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► it to assume that anything meaningful [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► will come out for a 15 inch which needs [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► 85 watts like in the next couple years I [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► don't I don't see it being very likely i [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► think what's more likely is we just lost [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► features and when things break we we [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► still have to pay apple for the [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► replacement we just might have to pay [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► them less money depending on which part [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► or parts broke making removals a good [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► idea though I like the idea is removable [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► it's much better to be able to buy [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► replacement cable I just don't care [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► about buying like oh and when you buy a [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► replacement cable it's just the USB I [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► was like Marcus said hey it's not just [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► us being able to special one and some [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► firepower and be just make a proprietary [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► and one in like i'll pay apple the the [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► 20 bucks for replacement if I'm a wire [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► killer and I killed the thing it's much [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► better than buying a dollar break right [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► and removable cable you know thumbs up [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► everybody likes it like it was an [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► opportunity to take an existing design [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► and fix some of the things that are [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► wrong with it just like making the [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► iphone success less slippery or whatever [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► like you got the bricks I mean you could [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► read it on him entirely and reimagine [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and counseling way better but if you [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► don't have the time or budget to do that [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► just like the one you have to make it a [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► little better and making a removable [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► cable does make it a little bit better [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► but moving the years and making it [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► removable but making it a big thick USBC [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► table that's not easy to wrap [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► I mean like that's the thing was just [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► like cook don't wrap it around anything [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► just entirely coil it into a circle with [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► a nice bend radius and now you have a [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► circle that's about the same size as the [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► square and you just don't stick them [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► together with a rubber band or something [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► in there you go i think that is what you [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► should do instead of trying to wrap [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► around the break to be clear but people [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► are going to do what they're going to do [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► i'm not sure people are going to take [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► advantage of that and that cable i [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► didn't realize i think it was all [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► markers video is its that's pretty [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► cumbersome yeah so the replace [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► cement USBC charge cable that [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► specifically in the product information [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► noted to be for the macbook pros and the [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► macbook adorable the six-foot-two meter [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► version is nineteen dollars from apple [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► so I I when I said forty dollars earlier [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► I just had no idea and the chat room has [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► provided a link to put in the show notes [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► its twenty dollars from Apple that's [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► again 2 meters a one meter or three foot [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► equivalent cable from anchor is fifteen [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► dollars and this one from anchors [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► specifically noted in the product to [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► product description to carry up to a [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► hundred watts so it's not terribly [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► expensive to replace these and it's Jack [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► of a lot less expensive like i said [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► earlier than replacing an eighty dollar [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► brick which is awesome [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► additionally and I think John you just [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► alluded to this did you can just [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► disconnected and I think part of the [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► reason that I lamented losing the years [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► was because I wanted some way to wrap up [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► that part of the cable that used to be [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► attached permanently attached to the [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► brick and it didn't occur to me without [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► when i was talking about it last episode [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► that i can just pop the darn thing out [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► and like you said John coil it up by [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► whatever mechanism i feel appropriate [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► and then I don't need those ears anymore [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► also i've been really bombed in [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► principle about the lack of years and I [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► i am i am standing down from that I [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► think that was me not thinking the [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► problem through i am still a bit bummed [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► by magsafe and I know that they're the [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► there's the belkin Griffin [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► whatever-it-is thing that you can kind [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► of hack magsafe back in i don't really [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► care for that but i would I I understand [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► why it's not magsafe i think is probably [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► the right decision overall but I am [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► bummed about the loss [TS]

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00:32:44 ◼   ► questionable some rooms that works [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► sometimes it doesn't someone that works [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► better in one corner than others or if [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► you hold your phone or iPad right it'll [TS]

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00:32:52 ◼   ► won't this is unacceptable in today's [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► modern world where Wi-Fi is the basis [TS]

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00:34:47 ◼   ► break both pieces of your power adapter [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► or if you want a second power adapter it [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► appears that the new one is more [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► expensive in the old one [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► what a surprise is is that i didn't know [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► that the old the these the 85 way [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► assuming a 15-inch the 85 watt actually [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► looks like it's true for the 14 13 as [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► well [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► 85 watt max safe to power adapter which [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► includes [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► not only does include the the magsafe [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► cable and brick obviously but i think it [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► even includes that extension cable [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► doesn't it [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► the $19 anyway even if you did something [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► so that is $79 so that's what it was [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► yes $79 field for the adapter for the [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► alternation I'm sorry I thought you [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► talked about the new on my part the new [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► one is $79 just for the brick part [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► oh wow so if you want to match what you [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► got before you have to spend another $19 [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► for the USBC cable and optionally [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► another $19 for the actual three prong [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► extension cable that used to come with [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► the old one [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► I'm gonna check my order that when i [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► ordered my my adapters my work thing i [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► don't know if i took that into account [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► because I ordered a second powerbook [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► like for home so don't bring the power [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► brake back and forth but i don't know if [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► i ordered the power cable thing probably [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► not so so actually what we have here is [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► a price hike by either twenty or forty [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► dollars depending on whether you need [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► the extra long three-prong cable or not [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► fun [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► thatthat's thanks to him yet another [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► accessories price hike added to the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► dongles added to the now two-sided ipad [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► cases keep you keep added up to him [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► thanks a lot [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► yeah and there were some article that [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► flew around it doesn't matter where it [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► was but I read somewhere somebody saying [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► you know a lot of these things i can [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► just buy like we were just talking about [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► with the magsafe you know the loss of [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► magsafe yet stock so i can justify it [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► and yea losing your sucks but you can [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► justify but man these sorts of price [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► hikes and I'm maybe there are a lot more [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► complex on the inside and I don't know [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► i'm not aware of it and and I'm not [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► giving it do credit but golly it's hard [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► for this not to just seemed like gouging [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► or you know or nickel and diming for the [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► sake of doing so like when did Apple [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► become Porsche in many ways [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► tim has continued Apple doing things [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► that we think are right but there are [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► going to be changes on a big scale when [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► the operations guy who's really good at [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► profit and operations takes over the [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► company from the product visionary and [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► it's not to say that Steve didn't care [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► about profit he very much would charge [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► outrageous amounts for whatever he felt [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► like because he thought he could and [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► sometimes it works and sometimes it [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► didn't but if you when you have the [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► operation take over the company [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► there are going to be changes like this [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► it's inevitable Tim Cook he means well I [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► think he means well for the products and [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► for Apple but he is very much numbers [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► and profit-driven that shows in a lot of [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► things apple has done in the last five [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► years it really really shows you as [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► never mentioned last show like with a [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► lot of Apple changes you can kind of [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► take that the charitable explanation or [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you can realize like you know well [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► there's also this other side effect for [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► witches apple makes more money now or [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► things got more expensive with this [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► progress that we made or things like [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► that right [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► these kind of changes are inevitable [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► when with tim cook when the company it's [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► going to keep happening [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► we're going to keep seeing things get [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► cut we're gonna see features to get cut [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► we're going to see accessories that we [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► used to be included that now costs money [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► we're like it was going to keep seeing [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► this because the way Tim Cook operates [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► is to find profit and extracted that is [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► what he's really good at and it's going [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► to keep happening as long as Tim Cook is [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► the CEO and I don't have any reason to [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► believe it's going to end anytime soon [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► as long as Tim Cook is the CEO of Apple [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► it's going to keep going down this path [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► for things are going to get more pared [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► down and more expensive and it's gonna [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► somehow result in giving Apple more [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► money for the kinds of things that we [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► used to have to give that much money for [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► that's just how that's that's what's [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► going to happen it is happening it has [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► been happening and it will continue to [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► yeah i mean i don't know it'sit's again [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► there may be perfectly valid reasons for [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► all these things but golly looking from [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► looking from the sidelines [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► it's hard for me to see what they are [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► for not everything but a lot of them [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► well and some of these things do have [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► valid reasons also but you it's really [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► hard to ignore that they wow you know [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► they're there are a few justifications [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► for this change but then also apple now [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► makes 40 bucks more every time you buy [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► it's like yeah like you have to look at [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► both sides that like it's it's important [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► to be to at least try to figure out a [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► good reason why don't have done [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► something but it's also important not to [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► be foolish enough to fit to realize like [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► also they do this with a profit [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah and i think the perfect [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► example to me is that extension cable [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► that goes to the three prong connector [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► in our why don't know how that works in [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► other countries but you know here in the [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► states you have the little receptacle [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► that goes on the power brick and then [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► it's like this two or three your main i [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► guess like three or four foot cable that [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► goes into the wall it has a ground on it [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► because not all of our plugs need [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► grounds yes i know that's barbaric for [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► you if you're British blah blah but [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► British people cannot complain about our [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► plug that plugs the size of a Buick oh [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► don't even get me started it's absurd [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► yet it's very same we can safely walk [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► around our house at night with their [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► feet in any case the point of driving it [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► though is that it is hard for me to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► understand why it is that that [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► twenty-dollar cable is no longer [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► included in this 22 five-thousand-dollar [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► laptop like that it's just hard for me [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► to understand why that could be [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► maybe there's a reason I mean not only [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► you not only just him need your just him [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► just is really good at at profitability [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► increasing that but look a lot of apples [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► numbers are not doing so well recently [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► if you look at their you know their [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► earnings there Walter result their sales [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► figures they have a lot of pressure on [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► them to increase profitability and [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► obviously no one way you do that is by [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► selling more units another way to do it [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► is by making more money from each one [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► and so the pressure is is very strong on [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► Tim Cook personally because that's the [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► kind of thing like if if that starts [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► going south for a while you tend to want [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► to replace the CEO so the pressure is [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► very strong at the top to increase those [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► those revenue numbers to increase those [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► are those margins to Italy to keep [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► basically combat what's actually [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► happening in the market which is kinda [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► general cooling of a lot of the market [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► the apples in right you know you have [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► you have ipad sales kind of you know not [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► going great you have the mac kind of [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► slowing you have the iphone kind of you [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► know leveling off a little bit [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► Apple has a lot of pressure on it now to [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► make more money somehow and it used to [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► be not you know I'm not easy in absolute [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► terms but it used to be easier take it [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► well they just keep selling more these [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► things that's great everything's going [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► well but now with the the cooling off of [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► their numbers in the market there's tons [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► of pressure them to just increase [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► profitability so we're seeing the screws [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► tighten all over the place all over the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► product line the services all the screws [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► tightening because they have to keep [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► making more money and they have they [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► have to do it for any way they can now [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► because otherwise numbers are going to [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► start maybe getting worse and you know [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► so we're going to keep seeing this [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► there's a reason what like we're going [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► to keep seeing products that give us [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► that are somehow you know little bit [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► cheaper to make maybe or at least we are [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► including include less without paying [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► extra you know we're not going to see [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► massive increases in like iCloud storage [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► for free regulate apple needs more money [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► from us and that's gonna keep happening [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► yeah we'll see final bit of follow-up [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► for today Apple is out of the Wi-Fi [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► business which we knew but we had an [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► email from an anonymous employee of a [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► major company that makes products that [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► integrate with Wi-Fi routers and this [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► individual said we're sad that Apple is [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► not making Wi-Fi routers anymore because [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► out of all the equipment that we deal [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► with worldwide the airport's had the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► fewest problems and the two problems [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► that we had seemed to have gotten [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► themselves fix some way somehow and [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► that's a pretty glowing recommendation [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► from someone who presumably is in the [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► additionally JD Power and Associates [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► apparently rated apples routers is [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► having the highest or best or [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► what-have-you customer satisfaction or [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► if you're Tim Cook customer sat of all [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► available Wi-Fi routers so whoops well [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► the customer sad thing is kind of funny [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► because there's you know that you got [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► the endowment effect or whatever the [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► hell it's called when you buy something [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► expensive you're more inclined to say [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► that it's good because you don't be [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► foolish for making the purchase and so [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► apples routers are very expensive and [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► therefore people who buy them are more [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► likely to say that they're good and also [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► it's got the apple brand where even if [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► your Wi-Fi router is the same or worse [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► than other ones because it's the apple [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► brand because it looks nice and because [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► it matches your other Apple software [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► also inclined to say that it's better so [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► those two things are working towards any [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► know empirically performance-wise levels [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► Wi-Fi routers are not the best you can [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► buy but that's just you know it's it's [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► another not a data point for Apple to [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► consider is that they were selling an [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► outdated product that doesn't perform as [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► well as the competition and cost more [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► and people were still satisfied with it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► essentially if [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► is to believe that you know their people [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► were willing to do it [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► they're willing to pay more money for a [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► less good on paper product that I in my [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► experience was actually reliable so you [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► know most companies would like to have a [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► product like that but Apple it's not [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► it's not along the critical path raffle [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► these days so oh well enough [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► alright we are out of follow-up and the [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► topic list says that the next thing we [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► need to talk about its intended switch [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► so Marco you want to talk about scary [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► maps on the mac app store haha just [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► kidding it is the time we were sponsored [TS]

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00:44:57 ◼   ► email host whatever it is whether it's [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► something like gmail whether to your own [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► I'm a post like fastmail or whether you [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► run your own server for a company or for [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► business or just even for yourself you [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► put mail route between the internet and [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► your mail service or your or your [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► servers and then mail route filters out [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► all the junk with amazing custom [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► controls they filter out all the junk [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► and they deliver to your email service [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► clean email and so that was that way you [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► basically get what I just what I've [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► experienced as the best spam filtering [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► in the world and then it doesn't matter [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► what email host use it brings that [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► amount of amazing spam filtering to any [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► email host whether it's a different [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► alternative to popular web providers or [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► whether it's your own servers and of [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► course if you're running your own [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► service can also really help reduce the [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► load on them because I'm the processing [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► very few messages because only the clean [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► stuff is getting through them mail route [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► has been around doing this for a very [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► very long time their teams and working [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► on email since 1997 there is no hardware [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► or software to install you literally [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► just point your MX records at them and [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► then you tell them where to deliver the [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► mail back to you [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► that's it their interface is easy to use [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► for customization for admin tools [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► it is also an API so if you're managing [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► email service for a bunch of users [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► they're very friendly this you know they [TS]

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00:46:13 ◼   ► what this is like they know the kind of [TS]

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00:46:30 ◼   ► they do they don't do any crazy other [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► stuff to do it's going to distract them [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► and put them out of business they do [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► spam filtering for email and they do it [TS]

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00:46:52 ◼   ► ah John tell us about the Nintendo [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► switch [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► well I should ask you to it's been so [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► long since 10 most present haha gotta [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► remember what it is [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► did you watch the day you and it came [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► out we did I did yeah it's like a boy a [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► boy puppy right yeah yeah so you already [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► know about specific looks like a puppy [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► here are so many other people [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► yes so I I don't feel like even though [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► I'm the official summarizer in chief for [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► the chief summarized in chief I don't [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► feel like I'm the best person summarizes [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► because I don't really care for video [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► game consoles but what I remember from [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► the video was it was pretty people in [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► pretty apartments playing with this [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► thing that could either be a handheld or [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► could be connected to your TV and it [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► seemed to also facilitate using like two [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► controllers if you're playing by [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► yourself so you have like one in each [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► hand or if you had a game that supported [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► it you could give ya one of the [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► controllers to a friend and hold on to [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► the other and when when tilted from [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► portrait to landscape I guess they're [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► effectively the same thing and so you [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► could play two player game with what is [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► really two halves of one controller and [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► that was pretty cool and it just made it [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► seemed like a very compelling very [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► different an interesting take on a video [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► game console but truth be told I've [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► known the video game console since the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► original wii and I got that console for [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► all the reasons that all the people who [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► don't play video games got it was [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► because it looked interesting and [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► exciting and different so I don't market [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► let me start with you anything you want [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► to add to that and then John why don't [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► you learn us as to what we should think [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► about this [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► I mean so I have a slightly different [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► condition and in that [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► my wife tiff does play a video game [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► consoles and not frequently but there's [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► usually like one or two great games that [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► she wants to play so badly any system [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► that we end up buying it anyway and then [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► usually its sister and collecting dust [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► forever and we feel bad about it [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► afterwards so these systems are in my [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► house I could play them occasionally I [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► have but it's basically not a part of my [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► life i'm basically not a gamer I I used [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► to be and i would like to be still same [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► here but I I every time the the [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► opportunity comes up to play a game I [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► instead look at my computer I'm like [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► well I could do this instead [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► and I just I always want to do other [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► things instead I I'm kind of an [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► aspirational gamer i would like to be a [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► gamer but in practice I never choose to [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► be you're not counting desert golf is [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► because that's a game i'm not sure if [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► you know that i did put that for a while [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► but i haven't played recently because I [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► know but you didn't think a lot of time [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► it's usually the way it works against [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► people don't play a game with the [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► exception of people play MMOs people [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► don't play games forever and ever like [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the game comes out they play it for a [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► while then they stopped when desert golf [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► came out you were right you were the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► most heavily intuitive any person I [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► actually know well i was i was also kind [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► of using it as like Twitter methadone [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► yeah well anyway did you see that thing [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► i sent you by the way that doesn't [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► girlfriend someone found the end yeah [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► yeah it's almost at the 16-bit in limit [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► but not going [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► yeah so basically the intense which [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► looks really interested me because I [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► some of the things about that that I [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► think are appealing are appealing to [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► people like me so things like it you [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► know like the wii it is kind of the [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► casual gaming system it is not like the [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► hardcore you know ps7 vr + / like I [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► don't care about most of that stuff I i [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► know even if I like if I got the PS 54 [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► probe ER i know i would use it like once [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► and I would never use it again so i'm [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► not going to get that must have really [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► wanted for some reason so like all like [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► the high-end video game stuff I i tend [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► to shy away from because I just don't I [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► i know i won't use it and I just don't [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► care and all the games you want to play [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► the systems are all like everyone [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► shooting each other and calling them [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► racist names and it's just like I don't [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► want that [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► you know that's yeah yeah I have most of [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► like modern management gaming is really [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► not for me for a number of reasons so [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► anyway what I like about the Nintendo [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► approach in general is it tends to focus [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► on just what the fuck with the fun [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► gameplay and the general playability and [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► quality of the games themselves not just [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► having the most detailed graphics when [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► you're playing an uber realistic well [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► when you're playing a an army simulation [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► that his players think our is realistic [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► and stimulating killing people in the [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► modern world [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► yeah that doesn't do anything for me but [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► the idea of racing around a rainbow [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► racetrack shooting turtle shells of my [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► friends and like that if like I like [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► that you know that sounds fun and so I [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► like the theory of what Nintendo does [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► and maybe what they used to do in [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► practice while I've had very little [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► experience with it and almost all butch [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► was at johns house a couple years ago [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► for his birthday [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► playing playing the wii u it seems like [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► Nintendo's recent efforts are so much [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► more complex than they used to be that [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► for somebody like me it doesn't really [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► pull me anymore like 8i i would i would [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► love if I could just go by entendo [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► system and bring it home and have it be [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► just as nice and simple and playable and [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► accessible as their older games were [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► like in the nes in Super Nintendo era [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► but just new games inside just playing [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the same old ones over and over again [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► like I would love that i would love to [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► go out and pay for that and and enjoy it [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► with my family that be fun but in [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► practice the game now are so complex [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► because they just had so many years to [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► accumulate crap so like mario kart has [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► like 50 characters now and all these [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► different crazy things happening all [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► over the track like it's hard for me to [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► even keep up its kind of manic it's kind [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► of like they've advanced even past this [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► my level of casual gaming so when I see [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► the switch and it won't want to the [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► video of the sort of the promo video the [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► switch with all the pretty young people [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► who have nothing to do apparently [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► playing video games all day sorry young [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► people when i see that it looks [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► appealing it looks like i would love to [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► have this little puppy gameboy and be [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► able to take the controllers and have [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► two player [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► local multiplayer anywhere i take this [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► that's awesome like the two player that [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► is so great to have two player local [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► multiplayer in a portable like this [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► that's fantastic i hope they really do [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► well with that and i hope they really [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► use it but if i look at the games they [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► made recently it's all stuff that I that [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► I think i will like unless I try it and [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► I realize oh this [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► yeah i don't i don't know if this is too [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► much for me i don't i don't care for [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► this so it's the kind of thing where in [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► theory i might really enjoy this thing [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► but in practice i probably won't [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► so John what do you think well my i am a [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► console gamer and I do like gaming [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► consoles and I've had a whole bunch of [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► them have had it but having my house now [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► the ps3 for pro and the Nintendo 64 game [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► cube we did I skip on anyway I got a [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► bunch of different consoles know [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► Microsoft one sorry at and when the we [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► came out I was disappointed that [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► Nintendo had given up the race for [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► console power that they were no longer [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► pursuing that they were content to [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► produce a console that was basically [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► previous generation hardware and I was [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► disappointed in that because I knew what [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► that would mean for the games that are [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► produced and I know what it would mean [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► for the software support and it [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► eventually did like very quickly games [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► would be out for playstation 3 xbox 360 [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► and pc that was a list of supported [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► platforms you would see all the time on [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► games the most popular games are out for [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► those platforms the best sellers the [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► triple-a games as i told them i was a [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► call them playstation 3 xbox 360 pc [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► never we port if there was a wee part in [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► the rare case it looked terrible they [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► played terrible it had disadvantages [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► because you just can't make a cross [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► platform game targeting three platforms [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► that are sort of on the same level [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► and then one platform that is an entire [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► generation behind that didn't end up [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► hurting the wii because that we appeal [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► to all the cases of the world who are [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► like I want a regular bowl too and it [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► was fun right and it was it was cool and [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► interesting and got tons more people to [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► play to buy a nintendo console and by [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► Nintendo console games and play them and [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► have a good time and so the wii was a [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► success as a product but for me who is [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► just a plain old boring console gamer of [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► the old stripe not of the new on a bowl [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► of my living room strike but the [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► old-style it was interesting i like [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► mostly like the fact that i could play [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► gamecube games on it [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► still it was nice that backward [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► compatibility which you know it didn't [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► get on the the ps3 or whatever and i [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► enjoyed those games two and i enjoyed [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► the Nintendo exclusive games as the [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► first party games as i always do it [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► because they were all very good you know [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► nintendo does a good job with this offer [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► they're not too complex for me so I was [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► i liked the the expansion of those games [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► into the new platform oh I did play [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► zelda on the Gamecube instead of the way [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► on purpose because the controls are [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► better on the Gamecube one then then on [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► the way version but give them a pass [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► because like all right well if you have [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► to do this it's going to be successful [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► product rather than to have a successful [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► product and unsuccessful one because I [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► want them to be successful so you [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► continue making the games i like and i [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► did like the games that they made the [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► wii u was a similar thing previous [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► generation hardware right so there it is [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► better than the wii but they're still [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► basically one entire generation behind [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► if you want to measure in terms of [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► performance wasn't going to get the [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► ports for all the ps4 and xbox one games [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► which are its supposed contemporaries [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► more or less so you're still going to [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► see games their ps4 xbox one and pc [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► that's all you're going to see and it [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► had a novelty factor with the second [TS]