Connected

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00:00:08 ◼   ► Hello, and welcome to Connected, episode 403.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by our sponsors, Trade Coffee,

00:00:15 ◼   ► Indeed, and TexExpander.

00:00:18 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett, and I'm very pleased to be joined

00:00:20 ◼   ► by Myke Hurley.

00:00:21 ◼   ► Hello, I'm back.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Welcome back, son.

00:00:24 ◼   ► I was stuck in Texas last time to add to my trip of terror,

00:00:28 ◼   ► you know?

00:00:29 ◼   ► Why not also get, not that like, you know, Texas is that bad,

00:00:32 ◼   ► but I wasn't expecting to be there, you know?

00:00:34 ◼   ► I'm not going to say anything particular about any place, you know?

00:00:38 ◼   ► Especially if I keep getting stuck there.

00:00:40 ◼   ► This is the second time I've been stuck in Dallas in three months.

00:00:42 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:00:43 ◼   ► So, you know, I don't want them to not let me in.

00:00:46 ◼   ► And I would like to, and I have the pleasure, I should say,

00:00:48 ◼   ► of being able to introduce to you all Federico Vittucci.

00:00:51 ◼   ► Ciao Federico.

00:00:52 ◼   ► Ciao, Myke. It's good to have you back.

00:00:54 ◼   ► Good to be back.

00:00:55 ◼   ► You went and you conquered America and you came back.

00:00:59 ◼   ► I did not do that. I didn't do that.

00:01:02 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:01:03 ◼   ► - I think it conquered you.

00:01:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, something conquered me.

00:01:06 ◼   ► It wasn't the United States of America.

00:01:09 ◼   ► - Man, it's good to have you back though.

00:01:11 ◼   ► Last time, Federico and I spoke about California names

00:01:15 ◼   ► of macOS releases, and we had a couple pieces of follow-up.

00:01:20 ◼   ► One is something someone had sent me in an email.

00:01:23 ◼   ► I'd forgotten that I'd written it.

00:01:24 ◼   ► Back in 2017, I made a list of bad guesses for macOS names

00:01:29 ◼   ► because California has some just wacky place names.

00:01:35 ◼   ► And I think my favorite is,

00:01:38 ◼   ► or I've got some favorites, macOS Death Valley is good.

00:01:42 ◼   ► Surprise Valley.

00:01:46 ◼   ► And then I can't pronounce it, but it's spelled ZZYZX.

00:01:51 ◼   ► - That's what they should call it.

00:01:52 ◼   ► - MacOS-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z

00:02:22 ◼   ► YouTube video okay this is Zizax Zizax Zizax Zizax Mac OS Zizax there's gonna

00:02:32 ◼   ► be an easier way to write that than this I like Mac OS Sutter Butts Buttes? Is that what that is?

00:02:42 ◼   ► I think it's buts. I think it's buts.

00:02:44 ◼   ► Subtle buts.

00:02:45 ◼   ► Subtle buts.

00:02:46 ◼   ► You said buts.

00:02:50 ◼   ► Oh, Mac OS YOLO County? I mean, come on.

00:02:54 ◼   ► That's the year when they just put iOS on the Mac, right?

00:02:56 ◼   ► They just called it YOLO County.

00:02:58 ◼   ► Mac OS Mount Baldy Wrightwood?

00:03:02 ◼   ► Hey, Baldy.

00:03:05 ◼   ► There's one we're all hovering around, but no one's gonna say it, right?

00:03:09 ◼   ► From this list?

00:03:11 ◼   ► Is there?

00:03:12 ◼   ► Mac OS Russian River Valley?

00:03:14 ◼   ► You wouldn't do that.

00:03:16 ◼   ► Oh, I didn't see that.

00:03:17 ◼   ► Yeah, that's not good. That's not good.

00:03:19 ◼   ► My quest Lost Coast.

00:03:22 ◼   ► Mono County.

00:03:23 ◼   ► Mono County. Yeah, you don't want to get that.

00:03:25 ◼   ► This is a great list, Steven.

00:03:26 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:03:27 ◼   ► The funny thing is if one of these gets picked one day.

00:03:30 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:03:31 ◼   ► Needles?

00:03:32 ◼   ► Needles.

00:03:33 ◼   ► Mac OS Needles.

00:03:34 ◼   ► California has some weird place names.

00:03:38 ◼   ► They do.

00:03:40 ◼   ► On the side of names they have used, listener Yan Yan, Yan Yan, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry,

00:03:50 ◼   ► I don't know which way to pronounce it. They put together a map of released

00:03:57 ◼   ► AkuOS names. So you can look at this, it's pretty sweet. Custom map on Felt.com, which is kind of a

00:04:03 ◼   ► cool website you can make custom map stuff. You can see him, he's got the wallpapers there.

00:04:08 ◼   ► They haven't really gone into Northern California.

00:04:11 ◼   ► It's all kind of been central or southern.

00:04:13 ◼   ► - I guess that's where they're from maybe, I don't know.

00:04:16 ◼   ► - I guess so.

00:04:17 ◼   ► But it's kind of cool to see all those areas

00:04:19 ◼   ► and there's lots of options.

00:04:22 ◼   ► They could do this forever, I think.

00:04:23 ◼   ► Although at some point,

00:04:25 ◼   ► I just wish they would align the numbers to iOS and iPadOS

00:04:30 ◼   ► because Mac OS 13 versus iOS 16,

00:04:34 ◼   ► like it's all very hard to keep straight.

00:04:36 ◼   ► I don't dig it.

00:04:38 ◼   ► - Happy Hackett Day two days ago.

00:04:40 ◼   ► It was Hackett Day.

00:04:41 ◼   ► So Federico, I want to tell you a thing

00:04:43 ◼   ► that happened on Monday, right?

00:04:45 ◼   ► Monday was June 20th.

00:04:47 ◼   ► Me and Steven were on a call together.

00:04:48 ◼   ► We have a call every Monday.

00:04:50 ◼   ► During the call, we both said, "What is Hackett Day?"

00:04:53 ◼   ► This is on the calendars.

00:04:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't remember. - Hackett Day, June 20th.

00:04:58 ◼   ► Do you don't remember either?

00:05:00 ◼   ► - No, no idea. - No.

00:05:03 ◼   ► Okay, so do you remember the Hackett number?

00:05:05 ◼   ► - Is it the number of computers per household?

00:05:10 ◼   ► - Computers per person in Steven's household.

00:05:14 ◼   ► The original calculation of the Hackett number was 20.6,

00:05:18 ◼   ► therefore making the 20th of June 26th, right?

00:05:22 ◼   ► The 20th of the sixth Hackett day.

00:05:25 ◼   ► I don't know why we decided this,

00:05:26 ◼   ► like why we went this far with it, but we did.

00:05:29 ◼   ► So happy Hackett day.

00:05:31 ◼   ► - It seems so unlike us to take something too far.

00:05:33 ◼   ► - I know, but I feel like we didn't need to give you a day.

00:05:35 ◼   ► But we did. So June 20th, Hackett day.

00:05:39 ◼   ► So I thought it would be fun for Hackett day.

00:05:42 ◼   ► I think we've done this in the past to get an updated version of Stephen's Hackett number.

00:05:47 ◼   ► Because if you remember, the Hackett number is a constant.

00:05:51 ◼   ► It's fixed.

00:05:52 ◼   ► It's 20.6.

00:05:53 ◼   ► Now we can do this calculation again and we can find out what Stephen's extended Hackett number is,

00:06:02 ◼   ► which is the changing Hackett number over time.

00:06:04 ◼   ► Am I correct in that?

00:06:06 ◼   ► Correct.

00:06:07 ◼   ► Is that how that works?

00:06:08 ◼   ► Yeah, so initially it was 20.6 devices per person in my household.

00:06:15 ◼   ► In 2021 it went up to 32.8.

00:06:19 ◼   ► So I'd added some things in the...

00:06:21 ◼   ► You sure had.

00:06:22 ◼   ► That's a lot of things.

00:06:23 ◼   ► There's a lot of people in your house.

00:06:25 ◼   ► Yeah, five people.

00:06:27 ◼   ► So I spent about an hour on Monday updating this.

00:06:31 ◼   ► By the way, Justin Hamilton created a website which we'll put in the show notes so you can

00:06:37 ◼   ► calculate your own Hackett number if you would like to.

00:06:40 ◼   ► So I've updated it and the new number is 43.2.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Woah, it's doubled!

00:06:50 ◼   ► It's doubled from two years ago.

00:06:53 ◼   ► The year over year change is very similar.

00:06:56 ◼   ► That's a very bad thing.

00:06:59 ◼   ► Would you like the breakdown?

00:07:00 ◼   ► Yeah, but how could you have doubled though?

00:07:03 ◼   ► A lot of it's iPods, I feel like, because I did a bunch of photos and stuff of them

00:07:07 ◼   ► and they're small.

00:07:08 ◼   ► It doesn't matter what it is.

00:07:09 ◼   ► They're small.

00:07:10 ◼   ► The current count is 59 desktops.

00:07:15 ◼   ► Fifty-nine.

00:07:17 ◼   ► And somehow, amazingly, the same number of notebooks.

00:07:23 ◼   ► 59 notebooks.

00:07:24 ◼   ► Wow.

00:07:25 ◼   ► Well, now every time you buy one, you have to buy another.

00:07:27 ◼   ► I know.

00:07:28 ◼   ► That's right.

00:07:29 ◼   ► 10 iPads, four Newtons, 28 iPhones, 56 iPods.

00:07:34 ◼   ► - Well, one thing, you need three more iPods.

00:07:38 ◼   ► - I need three more iPods.

00:07:39 ◼   ► - Make sure you get to work on that

00:07:40 ◼   ► so you're 59 of everything.

00:07:42 ◼   ► - Yeah. - That is horrific.

00:07:43 ◼   ► - Only four Newtons.

00:07:45 ◼   ► - Well, there's only like,

00:07:46 ◼   ► I think there's only five Newton devices.

00:07:51 ◼   ► - Oh, that's a shame, you're missing one.

00:07:52 ◼   ► - What about the fifth one, though?

00:07:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, where is it?

00:07:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm missing one.

00:07:56 ◼   ► I'm missing the 130, I think.

00:07:57 ◼   ► - Oh, ridiculous. - Let's see.

00:07:58 ◼   ► - That's everyone's favorite.

00:07:59 ◼   ► There was the original, oh no there's more than that, original 100, 110, 130, yeah I'm

00:08:04 ◼   ► missing a couple it looks like.

00:08:05 ◼   ► You call yourself a collector.

00:08:08 ◼   ► It's unforgivable.

00:08:10 ◼   ► So that's my new shame.

00:08:12 ◼   ► This is so high.

00:08:14 ◼   ► I thought that it had really slowed down but the year over year is very similar so.

00:08:21 ◼   ► What I can tell you is it hasn't actually slowed down, it has continued at quite a rate.

00:08:26 ◼   ► I did mine by the way.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Let's hear yours.

00:08:29 ◼   ► Well, my Hackett number is five.

00:08:39 ◼   ► Which is a really big difference, especially considering as well there's only two people

00:08:44 ◼   ► in my household, right?

00:08:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:47 ◼   ► So my Hackett number, mine is 3.5.

00:08:54 ◼   ► I want to know the, give me the, give me the breakdown Federico.

00:08:57 ◼   ► desktop mm-hmm that's my gaming PC yep three laptops and I don't want to get

00:09:04 ◼   ► into the details of the third one yet what no I won't help three iPads pro

00:09:16 ◼   ► air and mini mm-hmm zero Newtons and two iPhones and two people in my household

00:09:24 ◼   ► Right. No iPods. No. I have two desktops, two laptops, six iPads, two of them are

00:09:34 ◼   ► about to be sold off. But I have six right now. Zero Newtons, two iPhones, three iPods,

00:09:40 ◼   ► two people in my household. Comes to five. Zach wants to know if we're counting

00:09:46 ◼   ► our Steam decks as computers. And if those are computers, then the calculation...

00:09:51 ◼   ► They are neither desktops nor laptops.

00:09:53 ◼   ► Because then I should count my Aya Neo and my Steam Deck as well, but like...

00:09:58 ◼   ► They don't count.

00:09:59 ◼   ► They don't count.

00:10:01 ◼   ► You know, when you think about it, like, what's a console, you know?

00:10:05 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:10:07 ◼   ► And what is an open platform?

00:10:09 ◼   ► Are iPhones consoles?

00:10:11 ◼   ► That's the question.

00:10:12 ◼   ► Because then I'm not going to count my iPhones either.

00:10:14 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:10:15 ◼   ► Oh, okay, so Kate has called me out.

00:10:17 ◼   ► Good.

00:10:18 ◼   ► Apparently last year I counted five Newtons.

00:10:20 ◼   ► So maybe I miscounted one.

00:10:22 ◼   ► Oh, you've lost one.

00:10:23 ◼   ► [laughs]

00:10:25 ◼   ► So that makes the extended Hackett number now 43.4.

00:10:30 ◼   ► By the way, consider it--

00:10:32 ◼   ► Alright, so the way Kate has called you out here,

00:10:34 ◼   ► this needs to be addressed.

00:10:36 ◼   ► Kate has a spreadsheet of their own,

00:10:39 ◼   ► where they are tracking you.

00:10:41 ◼   ► They have a better inventory of my collection than I do.

00:10:43 ◼   ► So I would like to institute--

00:10:45 ◼   ► bring to the table right now

00:10:48 ◼   ► that we officially denote Kate as the real AFM historian.

00:10:52 ◼   ► - I agree.

00:10:54 ◼   ► - Excellent.

00:10:54 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:10:55 ◼   ► - That it's been passed.

00:10:56 ◼   ► Congratulations, Kate, you are now known

00:10:57 ◼   ► as the real AFM historian.

00:10:59 ◼   ► Because this isn't the first thing like this I've seen.

00:11:01 ◼   ► I mean, it's let alone all the title collections

00:11:04 ◼   ► and stuff that Kate does,

00:11:05 ◼   ► but the fact that they are keeping their own statistics.

00:11:08 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:11:09 ◼   ► - And also I do find frequently if I say,

00:11:12 ◼   ► oh, I know I've spoken about this before,

00:11:15 ◼   ► why did I say it?

00:11:16 ◼   ► Kate will usually be able to give me a link to that.

00:11:18 ◼   ► And Zach also points out that I forgot about my Intel NUC and I have two of those actually.

00:11:25 ◼   ► So my number jumped from 3.5 to 4.5.

00:11:30 ◼   ► Right, out of control. I'm sitting pretty over here man. And I'm gonna be even less soon.

00:11:37 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna get you each a Newton for your birthdays.

00:11:39 ◼   ► I will love it. I want to have one of those Newton's than they have on For All Mankind season 3.

00:11:44 ◼   ► I know. They're so cool. We have another date to celebrate real quick.

00:11:49 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:11:50 ◼   ► We just passed nine years podcasting together as a trio.

00:11:54 ◼   ► That's awesome.

00:11:55 ◼   ► Wow. Nine years?

00:11:57 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:11:58 ◼   ► And people still put up with us?

00:12:00 ◼   ► It's amazing.

00:12:01 ◼   ► Well, it might not be the same people.

00:12:03 ◼   ► That's true.

00:12:04 ◼   ► Right, right, right.

00:12:06 ◼   ► There's like a lifespan.

00:12:08 ◼   ► I listened to our first episode together this week.

00:12:12 ◼   ► You poor thing.

00:12:13 ◼   ► It's not good, but there was one thing that really jumped out at me. Well a couple of things one

00:12:17 ◼   ► It was like iOS 7 reactions, which is really funny to listen to but also

00:12:22 ◼   ► There is a joke in the first episode of the prompt about API and bees

00:12:27 ◼   ► Because the word for bees is API in Italian, I guess well, it's not API, but it's say

00:12:35 ◼   ► It's spelled the same

00:12:38 ◼   ► How do you pronounce bees in Italian?

00:12:40 ◼   ► Appi

00:12:41 ◼   ► - Happy, okay, so it's spelled the same.

00:12:43 ◼   ► - Happy, yeah, it's the same letters, yeah.

00:12:46 ◼   ► - There was a joke, you had said a friend

00:12:49 ◼   ► had been watching WWDC and he was like, why--

00:12:51 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:12:53 ◼   ► You're misremembering the, oh, sorry, the original,

00:12:56 ◼   ► the joke in episode one.

00:12:58 ◼   ► - Was a friend who had watched WWDC

00:13:01 ◼   ► and had asked you about it.

00:13:03 ◼   ► The joke that is, the much more famous version of the joke

00:13:05 ◼   ► is our live Chicago show where you talked about your mom

00:13:08 ◼   ► making a similar comment.

00:13:10 ◼   ► That's because this happened twice.

00:13:12 ◼   ► Like, I think it actually happened multiple times in my life.

00:13:15 ◼   ► But like, I remember...

00:13:17 ◼   ► But I think the funny thing is when you told us that story in Chicago,

00:13:21 ◼   ► I didn't remember that this was a thing.

00:13:23 ◼   ► No, me neither.

00:13:24 ◼   ► Right?

00:13:25 ◼   ► That felt like news to me, you know?

00:13:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:13:28 ◼   ► That's hilarious.

00:13:30 ◼   ► Have fun.

00:13:31 ◼   ► In nine years!

00:13:32 ◼   ► Yeah, man.

00:13:33 ◼   ► So, next year...

00:13:35 ◼   ► Ten years.

00:13:37 ◼   ► What do we do next year?

00:13:39 ◼   ► Well, I hope that we would be able to celebrate a live show next year. That would be my hope.

00:13:45 ◼   ► I just want you to have the tattoo that Federico and I have by then.

00:13:49 ◼   ► Stop bugging me about it, all right? I've got a plan. I just need to put it into action.

00:13:56 ◼   ► Face tattoo.

00:13:58 ◼   ► It's a neck tattoo.

00:14:00 ◼   ► Neck tattoo, yes.

00:14:03 ◼   ► Neck tattoo.

00:14:05 ◼   ► Look, it's easy. You get a teardrop on your left eye and a small weird fish underneath your right eye.

00:14:12 ◼   ► I have a request for listeners of the show. There is a link in the show notes called "Do You Know the

00:14:21 ◼   ► Passionate Ones?" Federico and Steven, do not click this. This is not for you to see. This is for future

00:14:29 ◼   ► Quiz questions. So this is a questionnaire that I would like our listeners, the passionate

00:14:37 ◼   ► ones to fill out, asks them a bunch of questions about the devices and apps that they use.

00:14:43 ◼   ► This will form future rounds in Family Feud style. So some questions we will do in the

00:14:50 ◼   ► future, it will be for example, of connected listeners, what is their favourite blank?

00:14:58 ◼   ► and then the two of you have to guess what the most popular answers are.

00:15:02 ◼   ► So this is going to be rounds of a future quiz.

00:15:05 ◼   ► So if you go to the show notes, fill out the form, fill out as many questions as you want,

00:15:10 ◼   ► I will collect these up and later on in the future we will be doing some connected quiz

00:15:15 ◼   ► questions based on these answers.

00:15:17 ◼   ► I appreciate your commitment and your cooperation.

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00:15:44 ◼   ► I just wanted to remind you the last time you set one of these up it kind of

00:15:48 ◼   ► come back to bite you in a sad way? I don't think I'm responsible for... I'm not

00:15:54 ◼   ► saying you're responsible, I just like, I just want you to be aware of the fact

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00:18:34 ◼   ► I wanna talk about iWork briefly.

00:18:36 ◼   ► - Take action, baby.

00:18:37 ◼   ► - Take action.

00:18:39 ◼   ► Version 12.1 of iWork is out

00:18:41 ◼   ► and a couple of pretty,

00:18:43 ◼   ► actually I think pretty cool features.

00:18:44 ◼   ► So in Keynote, there is now a way

00:18:48 ◼   ► to create dynamic backgrounds

00:18:51 ◼   ► that move behind your text or images,

00:18:55 ◼   ► whatever you have on your slide.

00:18:57 ◼   ► So I've actually been working on a keynote for something

00:19:00 ◼   ► and I turned these on and you can change the speed

00:19:03 ◼   ► and the colors and it's like a very kind of,

00:19:06 ◼   ► well, it can be vibrant and wild if you want it to be,

00:19:08 ◼   ► but I made just like a very subtle,

00:19:09 ◼   ► like blue and green kind of background

00:19:12 ◼   ► that slowly moves over time.

00:19:14 ◼   ► And I think it adds a nice touch to things.

00:19:18 ◼   ► And with pages, for the first time since they unified iWork on the Mac and iOS,

00:19:25 ◼   ► like a decade ago, Mail Merge is back.

00:19:28 ◼   ► So now you can use that feature to create personalized documents with information

00:19:35 ◼   ► from a mailing list or from your contact list.

00:19:38 ◼   ► Something that hasn't gone a long time, and there've been workarounds and they've

00:19:43 ◼   ► actually been like whole like other applications that have sprung up to do

00:19:46 ◼   ► this on macOS.

00:19:48 ◼   ► But now, I guess after a decade,

00:19:49 ◼   ► Apple realized they needed it back in Pages.

00:19:51 ◼   ► And Dan Morin has a good article in Six Colors

00:19:54 ◼   ► kind of diving into mail merge and how it works

00:19:56 ◼   ► and what you can do with it.

00:19:57 ◼   ► And for people who need it, this is really nice

00:19:59 ◼   ► 'cause a lot of people move to Office

00:20:01 ◼   ► or to some other application

00:20:03 ◼   ► because this feature is so important to a bunch of people.

00:20:05 ◼   ► - I don't understand what mail merge is.

00:20:08 ◼   ► First of all, can you explain to me

00:20:10 ◼   ► why it's called mail merge if it's in Pages?

00:20:14 ◼   ► Shouldn't it be called Pages merge?

00:20:16 ◼   ► I think it's about that you're like bringing a mailing list into your document because it's also called mail merge in in Microsoft

00:20:23 ◼   ► What does that mean? What like do people just carry around mailing lists?

00:20:28 ◼   ► Like what is a mailing list like a list of email addresses?

00:20:31 ◼   ► Okay, like in MailChimp. So you have your document. Uh-huh. Okay, so say that you're gonna send a letter to the triple J

00:20:38 ◼   ► Okay, so you have a letter it's written. It's signed by your attorney like a like a physical

00:20:44 ◼   ► paper letter

00:20:46 ◼   ► Yeah, or like maybe you're gonna email them a PDF or something, right?

00:20:50 ◼   ► But like you needed it to look official so you have your fixed, you know document and at the top you have a field

00:20:56 ◼   ► that has

00:20:58 ◼   ► first name last name and what you can do with mail merge is you can point a list of contacts at those fields and

00:21:06 ◼   ► Create documents then are filled out automatically for you

00:21:11 ◼   ► So instead of having to like copy and paste that over and over you can do it programmatically

00:21:16 ◼   ► So you have a list of contacts and you have the same document with some empty fields and then you say create multiple

00:21:24 ◼   ► Copies, but each of these fields needs to be filled in with the information for that contact

00:21:30 ◼   ► Yes, and you repeat this process for all the contacts in the list

00:21:33 ◼   ► So if I had a hundred people in a list, would it give me a hundred documents at the end? Yes. Yeah

00:21:40 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:21:41 ◼   ► - Oh, okay.

00:21:42 ◼   ► Do you know who I bet has used this a bunch?

00:21:44 ◼   ► John.

00:21:45 ◼   ► I bet John Voorhees really knows about mail merge

00:21:47 ◼   ► and like loves it.

00:21:48 ◼   ► - He's a mail merger for sure.

00:21:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think he really likes it.

00:21:53 ◼   ► - OTJ is 100% mail merged.

00:21:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, he's been merging for decades, you know?

00:21:58 ◼   ► I think it's, yeah.

00:21:59 ◼   ► - Let me ask him.

00:22:00 ◼   ► - The other big use is to print address labels.

00:22:04 ◼   ► So like if you're doing holiday gift cards yourself,

00:22:07 ◼   ► and this is where there have been other apps on the Mac

00:22:10 ◼   ► to do this, but you can bring in a bunch of contacts

00:22:14 ◼   ► and print like a sheet of, you know,

00:22:15 ◼   ► like you run like a sheet of labels through your printer

00:22:17 ◼   ► and then take them off and put them on an envelope.

00:22:19 ◼   ► You can now do that in pages more easily.

00:22:21 ◼   ► - I have fired off a message to John Voorhees, to OTJ,

00:22:26 ◼   ► to ask him if he likes mail merge,

00:22:28 ◼   ► and he has replied, "It's hot," with a fire emoji.

00:22:31 ◼   ► - Wow, settle down, John.

00:22:33 ◼   ► - John loves to merge.

00:22:34 ◼   ► He loves to merge.

00:22:36 ◼   ► He can't stop merging.

00:22:38 ◼   ► No, we found his thing. This is his thing.

00:22:41 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:22:42 ◼   ► You know? Don't Yakis Yami, loves?

00:22:43 ◼   ► And he uses it with... I use it with shortcuts, whatever that means.

00:22:47 ◼   ► I don't know what that means, but...

00:22:48 ◼   ► Oh, yeah!

00:22:49 ◼   ► John has a...

00:22:49 ◼   ► Yeah, no.

00:22:50 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:22:51 ◼   ► Guys, I made a mail merge shortcut years ago for John.

00:22:57 ◼   ► So John has...

00:22:58 ◼   ► How could you have done that when you didn't know what it meant?

00:23:01 ◼   ► I am sorry. So, well, that's because I got...

00:23:04 ◼   ► My problem is the terminology, where everybody just keeps repeating the same words, like "Mail Merge! Mail Merge!"

00:23:11 ◼   ► "It's back!" It's like, "What is Mail Merge?"

00:23:14 ◼   ► John just came to me with a specific problem, and I understood the specific problem, which is...

00:23:20 ◼   ► Whenever we do giveaways, and I have promo codes, I want to send out these promo codes to a list of people.

00:23:27 ◼   ► I don't want to do the manual copy and paste every single time in mail. Is there a way to automate that?

00:23:33 ◼   ► And he told me, I now remember that he told me that that sort of process was called mailmerge.

00:23:41 ◼   ► I didn't call it that, I just figured, you know, this is something that I understand

00:23:45 ◼   ► as a problem.

00:23:46 ◼   ► Well, you did in the shortcuts archive.

00:23:48 ◼   ► It's called mailmerge.

00:23:49 ◼   ► Yeah, because he told me like, this is mailmerge.

00:23:52 ◼   ► And so yeah, that was what, three, four, five years ago, maybe.

00:23:58 ◼   ► I just, I really think it's a bad name.

00:24:00 ◼   ► the name doesn't really sell the feature. Yeah, do you want to know what I thought it was?

00:24:05 ◼   ► So like, I know this phrase, right? I've known this phrase for years. I didn't know where anybody

00:24:10 ◼   ► had used it. I just know the phrase. I thought it meant like combining two email accounts. Yeah,

00:24:15 ◼   ► me too. That's what I thought it meant. You just have two mail accounts and you want one email

00:24:19 ◼   ► account, so now you merge your mail. I'm sure the guy who came up with mail merge is the same person

00:24:26 ◼   ► who later created Mime Stream. Like it has to be the same person. I'm sorry but it's a really bad

00:24:35 ◼   ► mail merge. You're not merging mails. Nice feature. I'll never use it. Reviews of the M2 MacBook Pro

00:24:45 ◼   ► are out. So our friend Jason has a review over on Six Colors and I just I love his headline,

00:24:52 ◼   ► the future wrapped in the past. So good. It's so good. That's a very Jason Snelly headline right

00:25:00 ◼   ► there. Big Snell energy. So you should go read his review. He's got some charts. The M2 is as

00:25:06 ◼   ► faster as Apple said it is basically, especially in single core. In multi-core, it's totally crushed

00:25:14 ◼   ► by the M1 Pro and Max and Ultra, as you would expect as they have more cores. You were saying

00:25:19 ◼   ► this to me earlier and I agree it's kind of sad that this is the first m2 computer like yeah it

00:25:27 ◼   ► is it's good at what it does I couldn't be less interested in it and I don't know it's kind of a

00:25:34 ◼   ► bummer I know why it exists I get why it exists I hope this is the last one and then they find

00:25:40 ◼   ► something better to replace this computer with but it's kind of like okay you know because the

00:25:47 ◼   ► The problem is, I think one of the reasons it's exciting is we kind of know what the

00:25:51 ◼   ► M2 was going to be, right?

00:25:53 ◼   ► And that's not a bad thing, it's just like the M2 is going to be a little bit faster

00:25:57 ◼   ► than the M1 and do some stuff it couldn't do, but it's not going to blow the doors off

00:26:01 ◼   ► anything.

00:26:02 ◼   ► But it would be more exciting to talk about the M2 if it's wrapped in a brand new machine

00:26:07 ◼   ► like the MacBook Air.

00:26:08 ◼   ► We're getting it here first, which is just, you know, it's not really much to say about

00:26:14 ◼   ► it, you know?

00:26:15 ◼   ► It's just a weird timing thing.

00:26:18 ◼   ► I would imagine that Apple would have wanted something else to bring in the M2, maybe this

00:26:23 ◼   ► in the air together, maybe ultimately in a parallel non-COVID universe.

00:26:27 ◼   ► This machine isn't here and it is replaced with a 15-inch air or something else.

00:26:33 ◼   ► But it is here and there are, and Jason goes into this, there are reasons to get it, right?

00:26:40 ◼   ► If you need a little bit better battery life than the air, if you're doing sustained workloads

00:26:45 ◼   ► where the active cooling would make a difference, which is a very edge case, because remember

00:26:49 ◼   ► on the MacBook Pros, like with the M1 Pro and the M1 Max, you can run them without the

00:26:55 ◼   ► fan spinning. In fact, Apple says most of the time the fans don't even spin in those

00:27:00 ◼   ► notebooks. And so it's really only at the edges that the active cooling makes a big

00:27:04 ◼   ► difference, I think. Or, and there are people out there who like the touch bar. And I would

00:27:08 ◼   ► imagine, and I would have said this last year too, but I'm going to say it here, I think

00:27:12 ◼   ► definitely the last machine that's gonna have the touch bar. So there are purposes for this machine.

00:27:17 ◼   ► It does also give people, we talked about this last time, a pro machine without spending $2,000.

00:27:24 ◼   ► And I get that. I think for most people, especially if you're looking at to join the Apple Silicon

00:27:30 ◼   ► era, the the new Air, or even the M1 Air, honestly, which I used my wife's last night for a while,

00:27:37 ◼   ► 'cause I forgot how great that machine is.

00:27:41 ◼   ► There are better options for less or similar money

00:27:44 ◼   ► than this thing.

00:27:46 ◼   ► It's just a hard sell unless you're in one

00:27:47 ◼   ► of those really narrow categories.

00:27:50 ◼   ► - I have no thoughts about this computer.

00:27:52 ◼   ► I said it last time.

00:27:54 ◼   ► I think it's boring.

00:27:55 ◼   ► - If me and Steven are struggling,

00:27:56 ◼   ► Federico's got nothing, right?

00:27:59 ◼   ► - Honestly, I'm listening to you guys

00:28:01 ◼   ► and I agree with everything you're saying.

00:28:03 ◼   ► I don't have an opinion and I don't think I should.

00:28:05 ◼   ► - It's hard to have an opinion about this computer.

00:28:07 ◼   ► - I'm like, okay.

00:28:09 ◼   ► I mean, I knew it was gonna be a bit of a quiet embargo day

00:28:13 ◼   ► when I saw a couple of articles and I didn't,

00:28:16 ◼   ► like I followed a bunch of tech YouTubers,

00:28:18 ◼   ► none of them made a video about it.

00:28:20 ◼   ► It's like-

00:28:21 ◼   ► - No, this will be in the MacBook Air video

00:28:24 ◼   ► of a bunch of people, right?

00:28:25 ◼   ► They will put this in there as well.

00:28:27 ◼   ► - Right, and it may be, I just don't know,

00:28:30 ◼   ► it may be that Apple didn't see these very widely

00:28:32 ◼   ► knowing that the air is coming

00:28:34 ◼   ► and not wanting basically the rhetoric

00:28:37 ◼   ► to be what we're talking about of like,

00:28:38 ◼   ► yeah, this machine doesn't really make much sense

00:28:40 ◼   ► for the majority of people.

00:28:42 ◼   ► But I do continue to be excited

00:28:44 ◼   ► about the march of Apple Silicon.

00:28:48 ◼   ► I came across some of the other day,

00:28:50 ◼   ► someone had commented about,

00:28:52 ◼   ► oh, this is really like, you know, M1 part two,

00:28:56 ◼   ► or like, it's really not as exciting as like,

00:28:58 ◼   ► but that's how it was always going to be.

00:29:01 ◼   ► You only get that big four to five, six times faster

00:29:06 ◼   ► when you change architecture, right?

00:29:09 ◼   ► Now we are in the mode where like,

00:29:11 ◼   ► yeah, it's gonna be incremental from here on out.

00:29:14 ◼   ► And some years will be better than others.

00:29:16 ◼   ► Like there have been years on the A series chip

00:29:18 ◼   ► where they're dropping two times performance on something

00:29:22 ◼   ► and other years it's 20%, right?

00:29:24 ◼   ► Just depends on what's going on.

00:29:26 ◼   ► That's totally fine because the Apple Silicon machines

00:29:29 ◼   ► are already starting out so far ahead. I just don't I don't see

00:29:34 ◼   ► a reason to get worked up about about the differences between

00:29:37 ◼   ► the M one of the M two in a negative way. I think it's

00:29:39 ◼   ► exciting that Apple is marching forward as quickly as they are.

00:29:42 ◼   ► It's a bummer. This is the first machine bring this new

00:29:46 ◼   ► generation in but you know, I think over the next few months,

00:29:49 ◼   ► we'll see the M two spread out to things like the Mac Mini and

00:29:53 ◼   ► the 24 inch iMac and will be you know, kind of off to the races

00:29:57 ◼   ► to see what they do on the high end.

00:30:00 ◼   ► - I mean, I also kind of, I don't really know

00:30:03 ◼   ► what to say to people that are hoping for more.

00:30:06 ◼   ► When we've had all these M1 chips, right,

00:30:09 ◼   ► like the four variants of it,

00:30:12 ◼   ► and they have all been astronomically more powerful

00:30:15 ◼   ► than the other one in the line,

00:30:18 ◼   ► that it's kind of like, there's not gonna be,

00:30:21 ◼   ► like the M2's not gonna start to get towards the M1 Pro.

00:30:25 ◼   ► - Right. - No.

00:30:26 ◼   ► because then there's what's the M2 Pro.

00:30:29 ◼   ► So like...

00:30:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, and the big difference between the standard chip

00:30:34 ◼   ► and Pro and Max, it's not clock speed, right?

00:30:37 ◼   ► It's the number of cores, especially on the GPU side.

00:30:40 ◼   ► And so, yes, the M2 is faster than the M1 in single core,

00:30:45 ◼   ► but as soon as you get out of the same family of chip,

00:30:51 ◼   ► as soon as you start moving up the line,

00:30:53 ◼   ► then the core count as it increases,

00:30:58 ◼   ► like it spreads that out, right?

00:31:00 ◼   ► It spreads the gap between this.

00:31:03 ◼   ► Like I don't feel bad about my recent Max Studio purchase

00:31:08 ◼   ► because the M2 is out,

00:31:09 ◼   ► because it is so much faster in multi-core

00:31:12 ◼   ► and a lot of my workflow takes advantage of that.

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00:33:01 ◼   ► the support of the show and Relay FM. Beta 2 is out. I think Federico, you've been installing

00:33:08 ◼   ► it in the background. Is that done?

00:33:11 ◼   ► installing now on my iPad Pro. It's done on my iPhone and I was just playing around with it.

00:33:17 ◼   ► Okay, so a couple of things I've noticed on the lock screen. There are two new options for color

00:33:25 ◼   ► wallpapers. Before there used to be only two filters, right? The natural color filter and

00:33:32 ◼   ► the black and white one. They have added Duotone and Color Wash as two new additional filters when

00:33:40 ◼   ► when you're putting together color wallpapers on the lock screen,

00:33:43 ◼   ► I don't see other changes in terms of new widgets,

00:33:47 ◼   ► or placement of widgets, or anything else.

00:33:49 ◼   ► So just new color options there.

00:33:51 ◼   ► I have seen a slight redesign for some shortcuts actions,

00:33:57 ◼   ► like when you're choosing from a list or entering some text in an alert.

00:34:03 ◼   ► Those are looking much, much nicer than before,

00:34:06 ◼   ► and they're actually, like, this is not beta 2,

00:34:09 ◼   ► but in general they are a lot faster than iOS 15.

00:34:14 ◼   ► - It's immediate now.

00:34:16 ◼   ► There's no stupid animation that takes forever.

00:34:19 ◼   ► Like they're choosing from a list thing

00:34:22 ◼   ► in previous versions.

00:34:23 ◼   ► It was even just really slow to appear

00:34:25 ◼   ► or the animation was slow.

00:34:27 ◼   ► Now it's like straight away.

00:34:28 ◼   ► I've been appreciating that.

00:34:29 ◼   ► - I don't see anything else that jumps out at me.

00:34:32 ◼   ► No new icons, no new widgets.

00:34:38 ◼   ► I don't see anything at the moment. I think maybe some bigger changes could be on the iPad with Stage Manager,

00:34:44 ◼   ► but that's taking a while to install on my iPad. I'm taking a look at Widgets. I don't see anything else in here.

00:34:50 ◼   ► No changes in music. I don't think there's a ton of stuff happening on the iPhone, honestly.

00:34:57 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't see just some refinements for the lock screen and some refinements for shortcuts.

00:35:03 ◼   ► I'm sure other things will come out but this is just based on five minutes of

00:35:08 ◼   ► usage. Nothing major jumps out at me right now.

00:35:13 ◼   ► So I have iPad OS 16 up and running now on my iPad. I would say in general stage

00:35:20 ◼   ► manager feels a little bit more responsive but I haven't yet seen

00:35:23 ◼   ► anything that seems particularly new. This is beta 2? One question I have... yes.

00:35:28 ◼   ► Okay. One question I have for you Federico, something I noticed I didn't

00:35:32 ◼   ► if it was there before. Were there keyboard shortcuts to switch between window sets? No.

00:35:38 ◼   ► They've added that. So, globe left and right will move you between windows sets. And that's

00:35:44 ◼   ► what they call them. Oh, okay. They call them window sets. Okay. So you've got globe up

00:35:49 ◼   ► shows the app switcher, globe down is show all windows, globe left is previous windows

00:35:54 ◼   ► set, globe right is next. Globe down is show windows? Show all windows. Nice, okay, so

00:36:00 ◼   ► There's a keeper shortcut for that now.

00:36:02 ◼   ► Okay.

00:36:03 ◼   ► - Something I noticed, this was probably the way before.

00:36:07 ◼   ► It's kind of funny.

00:36:08 ◼   ► I just did that on an app.

00:36:09 ◼   ► So I have two windows open in Timery,

00:36:12 ◼   ► one in two different, like one on its own

00:36:15 ◼   ► and one in a set and I did globe down

00:36:18 ◼   ► and it showed me an empty screen.

00:36:19 ◼   ► So they've added it, but it isn't,

00:36:24 ◼   ► at least for me here, it's not doing anything.

00:36:26 ◼   ► Question I had for you that I wasn't sure.

00:36:29 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, when I also do the show or windows,

00:36:31 ◼   ► it doesn't work.

00:36:32 ◼   ► But in Stage Manager,

00:36:35 ◼   ► an application that has multiple windows

00:36:38 ◼   ► still can't be in multiple sets.

00:36:40 ◼   ► It can just be on its own or in a stage

00:36:43 ◼   ► is what I'm experiencing here.

00:36:45 ◼   ► That seems very odd to me.

00:36:46 ◼   ► - No, you can have different windows

00:36:48 ◼   ► from the same app in different sets.

00:36:50 ◼   ► - How?

00:36:51 ◼   ► - Good question.

00:36:53 ◼   ► You either grab a window from the sets on the left side

00:36:58 ◼   ► or my iPad is installing in front of me.

00:37:03 ◼   ► So I cannot try.

00:37:05 ◼   ► - Okay, I got it working now.

00:37:06 ◼   ► Like it seems inconsistent, but yes, you're right.

00:37:08 ◼   ► I did just get it working now and that works.

00:37:11 ◼   ► So this is one of those things where like,

00:37:13 ◼   ► I know why a lot of people didn't have multiple windows

00:37:16 ◼   ► in their iPad app.

00:37:18 ◼   ► - Because you couldn't see them.

00:37:19 ◼   ► - I heard you talk about this in app stories.

00:37:21 ◼   ► You've got to do it now,

00:37:22 ◼   ► because this is a big difference to be able to,

00:37:26 ◼   ► to have all of the instances of an app that you would want

00:37:31 ◼   ► to have these kind of sets the way that you might want them.

00:37:35 ◼   ► - Because they are literally sitting

00:37:36 ◼   ► in front of your face now.

00:37:37 ◼   ► So you can see all those windows.

00:37:39 ◼   ► And if you're not supporting multiple windows,

00:37:41 ◼   ► you're gonna have not a great experience for the user.

00:37:46 ◼   ► So multiple windows and drag and drop at a bare minimum.

00:37:51 ◼   ► These are things that have existed since IPOS 13.

00:37:55 ◼   ► So it's been a few years now,

00:37:56 ◼   ► But yeah, you gotta do it.

00:37:58 ◼   ► The addition of keyboard shortcuts is very nice.

00:38:01 ◼   ► I wonder if they're lifting some of those limitations,

00:38:06 ◼   ► maybe not yet.

00:38:07 ◼   ► Two other things that I've noticed,

00:38:09 ◼   ► you can now back up your iPhone over cellular,

00:38:14 ◼   ► finally, if you want to,

00:38:16 ◼   ► and they have made it easier to delete the lock screens

00:38:21 ◼   ► by swiping them up.

00:38:24 ◼   ► Like you can swipe up an app on the iPhone

00:38:26 ◼   ► to remove it from the app switcher.

00:38:29 ◼   ► Now, before it was kind of weird

00:38:32 ◼   ► because you needed to long press a lock screen.

00:38:36 ◼   ► Now you can just swipe up and a trash icon appears

00:38:39 ◼   ► and you can just delete it.

00:38:41 ◼   ► So that's cool.

00:38:42 ◼   ► But yeah, I don't see it.

00:38:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a ton.

00:38:46 ◼   ► I'll be really keen to see what you have to say

00:38:48 ◼   ► about Stage Manager.

00:38:50 ◼   ► I mean, to me, on my iPad Air,

00:38:52 ◼   ► it feels a bit more responsive.

00:38:55 ◼   ► - Feels snappier.

00:38:56 ◼   ► doing things the way I would particularly want, like there's still only one resize point by touch,

00:39:04 ◼   ► which I don't like. I still feel like they fundamentally have the wrong

00:39:11 ◼   ► window picker. I think the UI that they have, and like in the two weeks I've spent using

00:39:17 ◼   ► it's not called window manager, stage manager, in the two weeks that I spent using it, that is where

00:39:23 ◼   ► I'm sort of, I draw the line, which is they have a bad design, like visually speaking,

00:39:30 ◼   ► for the window picker. By window picker I mean... You mean the thing on the left, right? No, no, no,

00:39:35 ◼   ► not that. That's cool. For what you just mentioned, Myke, for picking multiple windows from the same

00:39:42 ◼   ► app, it's so disconnected from everything else. Like, honestly, the shelf was a better design,

00:39:52 ◼   ► because it was tiny and compact.

00:39:55 ◼   ► Like, now, when you want to pick one of the windows

00:39:59 ◼   ► from the same application,

00:40:01 ◼   ► you're taken into this fullscreen UI

00:40:05 ◼   ► that is totally disconnected from Stage Manager.

00:40:09 ◼   ► Whereas what I would like to get is,

00:40:12 ◼   ► you long-press on an icon or something in the dock,

00:40:17 ◼   ► and you get a pop-up with all your windows,

00:40:20 ◼   ► kind of like the shelf, and you just pick one and drag it into Stage Manager and you're done.

00:40:25 ◼   ► So that is the point of friction for me at the moment.

00:40:29 ◼   ► I don't want to raise your hopes up, but like, the "show all windows" thing is just straight up

00:40:34 ◼   ► not working for me right now. But that might mean that maybe they're gonna change it,

00:40:39 ◼   ► but like when I press "show all windows" I just go to a blank screen.

00:40:43 ◼   ► Hold on, hold on. Go into that blank screen, swipe with your finger to the right,

00:40:49 ◼   ► Do you see anything?

00:40:52 ◼   ► Oh, well the stage manager thing has appeared.

00:40:57 ◼   ► Because it used to be before that when you clicked in beta 1, that when you clicked "show all windows"

00:41:03 ◼   ► it was like, the windows were there, but they were scrolled all the way to the left

00:41:09 ◼   ► and then they popped in. So what it's now showing me is all of the stages where a window appears

00:41:15 ◼   ► appears, and then I can tap one.

00:41:17 ◼   ► Yeah, OK, that's different then.

00:41:20 ◼   ► Interesting.

00:41:21 ◼   ► This is funny.

00:41:21 ◼   ► This is very funny.

00:41:23 ◼   ► Yeah, they're hidden, and then I can make them appear.

00:41:26 ◼   ► So they're adding keyboard shortcuts.

00:41:27 ◼   ► That's good.

00:41:29 ◼   ► They're potentially putting in some work

00:41:30 ◼   ► into the window-picking UI.

00:41:33 ◼   ► I think if we're going to see bigger changes,

00:41:35 ◼   ► we're going to see them in Beta 3, which is also,

00:41:38 ◼   ► apparently, according to Mark German,

00:41:40 ◼   ► going to be the public beta.

00:41:41 ◼   ► And we knew as much before, right,

00:41:43 ◼   ► with the rumors leading up to WWDC, Gherman said,

00:41:48 ◼   ► beta 2 and 3 are potentially lagging a bit behind

00:41:52 ◼   ► compared to previous years.

00:41:54 ◼   ► What we can say right now is that actually,

00:41:59 ◼   ► iOS 16 beta 2 is one day early

00:42:04 ◼   ► compared to iOS 15 beta 2 last year,

00:42:08 ◼   ► because last year, beta 2 came out this week

00:42:12 ◼   ► on the Thursday. Beta 2 this year came out on the Wednesday as we're recording this.

00:42:20 ◼   ► So far they are on track, if anything they are actually earlier than last year, but of

00:42:25 ◼   ► course the delay could be in the Beta 3, and so we could see a Beta 3 maybe later, mid-July,

00:42:32 ◼   ► and a public Beta after that. And if we're going to see bigger changes, those could be

00:42:38 ◼   ► for the first public beta, right?

00:42:40 ◼   ► They wanna make sure that they lock in those changes

00:42:42 ◼   ► to Stage Manager before a much bigger audience

00:42:45 ◼   ► gets their hands on the beta.

00:42:47 ◼   ► - I mean, I haven't seen anybody losing their mind

00:42:50 ◼   ► about them having added Stage Manager to other iPads,

00:42:53 ◼   ► so I'm assuming that that has not happened as of now,

00:42:57 ◼   ► if it happens at all.

00:42:59 ◼   ► Very good conversation you two had last week.

00:43:01 ◼   ► - Thank you. - I was really happy

00:43:02 ◼   ► I didn't have to be a part of it.

00:43:03 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:43:06 ◼   ► I enjoyed listening to it.

00:43:07 ◼   ► I didn't want to make it.

00:43:09 ◼   ► It's just like, I find it's such an exhausting topic to me.

00:43:12 ◼   ► So I'm pleased that you guys did it.

00:43:16 ◼   ► - Myke, do you want to tell us about

00:43:18 ◼   ► capture autofill on iOS 16?

00:43:22 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, yeah.

00:43:23 ◼   ► So I've got a couple of things that are in iOS 16 beta one

00:43:26 ◼   ► that I just thought were really interesting.

00:43:28 ◼   ► One is replacing capture with what's called

00:43:31 ◼   ► a private access token.

00:43:33 ◼   ► And I'm gonna read from, this came from a session at WWDC.

00:43:37 ◼   ► Private access tokens are a powerful alternative that help you identify HTTP requests from

00:43:42 ◼   ► legitimate devices and people without compromising their identity or personal information.

00:43:47 ◼   ► We'll show you how your app and server can take advantage of this tool to add confidence

00:43:52 ◼   ► to your online transactions and preserve privacy.

00:43:55 ◼   ► So basically, you know when you have to do a capture and you have to like pick all the

00:43:59 ◼   ► things that are a stop sign or like drag this puzzle piece to the correct place or like

00:44:05 ◼   ► type this thing you can't read this will eventually hopefully remove the requirement for that because

00:44:12 ◼   ► effectively what it's doing this is as you can imagine apple so it's privacy focused

00:44:16 ◼   ► it's not giving any user info to the server or the cdn or whatever it's just confirming this

00:44:25 ◼   ► is a real human being so fastly and cloudflare they're two cdns they've already added they're

00:44:32 ◼   ► you

00:44:51 ◼   ► just communicating to the CDN. This is a real person. So this is a really great technology

00:44:56 ◼   ► that I hope, I mean I don't know the, like I don't know if it is an open source technology,

00:45:02 ◼   ► I hope so. It's kind of reminded me in essence of that like the password replacement thing.

00:45:09 ◼   ► I don't remember the name of it now, but you know what I'm talking about right? Like passkeys.

00:45:13 ◼   ► Passkeys.

00:45:14 ◼   ► It reminded me of that, of like we'll just take care of this for you and we'll just get rid of

00:45:18 ◼   ► of this annoyance you don't have to deal with anymore. So I think this is really good and

00:45:22 ◼   ► I hope that it rolls out. At the moment this kind of doesn't really feel like something

00:45:27 ◼   ► that specific apps I guess don't really have to take advantage of this, just the services

00:45:31 ◼   ► that they use. So I guess the hope is Google will, right? Because I would assume, I know

00:45:37 ◼   ► for me personally most of the captures I see are the Google ones, right? You know when

00:45:41 ◼   ► you have to like pick the two things. But my understanding is Google uses this as a

00:45:45 ◼   ► way to train their algorithms so I don't know if they kind of want to get rid of it.

00:45:50 ◼   ► I guess we'll see over time. Right, is that an urban myth?

00:45:53 ◼   ► No I think it's true.

00:45:54 ◼   ► Or is that true? That they use it, they're using it to test for like car stuff?

00:45:58 ◼   ► It's got to be, I mean it's always like driving related things like show me the bridges,

00:46:03 ◼   ► show me the you know palm trees.

00:46:05 ◼   ► Because it used to be other stuff and then it became only car stuff right?

00:46:09 ◼   ► Yeah I feel like that's all I see.

00:46:11 ◼   ► I also, I'm a proud subscriber to Club Max Stories.

00:46:15 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:46:16 ◼   ► Although, I think I used to pay, but now I don't anymore.

00:46:20 ◼   ► But I'm still a subscriber, I don't remember.

00:46:22 ◼   ► If you made me free, thank you, otherwise I pay.

00:46:24 ◼   ► I think I did like last year, and I told you, but then you forgot.

00:46:27 ◼   ► Who knows, but thank you if you comp me.

00:46:30 ◼   ► Sure.

00:46:31 ◼   ► I wanted to pick two things that I found in a great article that Federico wrote called

00:46:35 ◼   ► "5 Iowa 16 Features You May Not Have Seen Yet".

00:46:38 ◼   ► You should subscribe to Club Max Stories to find out the other three, I'm only going to

00:46:41 ◼   ► tell you two of them.

00:46:43 ◼   ► One is to add CCV cards to credit card, Autofill, this is fantastic because I get so frustrated

00:46:51 ◼   ► with this.

00:46:52 ◼   ► I use 1Password right but sometimes 1Password doesn't see the credit card number or whatever

00:46:58 ◼   ► but Apple does.

00:46:59 ◼   ► Alright Apple's little thing pops up and I just want to press it because it's right there

00:47:04 ◼   ► but the one thing it doesn't do is add the security CCV number but now you can add this

00:47:08 ◼   ► in iOS 16 to your credit card info and it will add that for you which is great.

00:47:12 ◼   ► The other is something that Federica found the other day and was very excited about and

00:47:16 ◼   ► I was very excited about and was showing us screenshots in iMessage is unit conversion

00:47:22 ◼   ► baked into the system via the same way that it does the data detector stuff.

00:47:28 ◼   ► So when you see a thing, you see a line underneath it.

00:47:30 ◼   ► So if you send somebody a time, like say you're like, "Hey, let's meet at 12 p.m. Eastern

00:47:35 ◼   ► time," you could tap that and it will give you your local time and then allow you to

00:47:39 ◼   ► add an event.

00:47:41 ◼   ► or if someone says to you 36 degrees celsius you could tap it and find out the fahrenheit

00:47:46 ◼   ► or if it's like currency measurement stuff like that i think this is brilliant and it's

00:47:51 ◼   ► this is to me like smart phone right like computer should be smart and do this for me

00:47:59 ◼   ► yeah yes i've heard this this phrase smart phones but like seriously like this is this

00:48:05 ◼   ► is exactly the kind of thing it should be doing i should never have to ask my iphone

00:48:10 ◼   ► to convert something. It should always be ready to do it without me ever needing it.

00:48:15 ◼   ► Especially stuff like this. The basic things, right? Time, temperature, currency. You know,

00:48:20 ◼   ► it's funny to me that this will work when Siri so frequently fails for me with time

00:48:25 ◼   ► zone conversions and now I'm happy that I'll never have to go through that issue because

00:48:30 ◼   ► it will just be able to do it right there for me. So I think that's great. Especially

00:48:33 ◼   ► when I have some friends, I'm not going to name them, who only give to me their own local

00:48:39 ◼   ► time zone when we could all use a different time zone. My issue is not that you both want

00:48:45 ◼   ► it in your own time zone. It's that when we do that it causes potential errors. That's

00:48:49 ◼   ► what I don't like. I don't like errors, you know?

00:48:51 ◼   ► But that's just life. Life has potential errors.

00:48:54 ◼   ► Yeah, but I don't like errors. Well then, you're in for quite a ride.

00:48:59 ◼   ► Look, I had COVID, okay? You know? Oh, come on.

00:49:02 ◼   ► You gotta be nice to me. How long is this thing gonna be now? For years?

00:49:07 ◼   ► forever. For as long as I still feel like my chest is burning, like it is right now.

00:49:12 ◼   ► Okay. When I can forget that I had it because I have no symptoms, then you can be mean to

00:49:17 ◼   ► me again. Right now, you've got to be nice to me.

00:49:20 ◼   ► Let me tell you some nice things then. They have definitely added a specific category

00:49:26 ◼   ► for keyboard shortcuts for Stage Manager. So, Command-F, that was in there before, for

00:49:31 ◼   ► full screen, now it's called Zoom. So you're zooming into a window in Stage Manager.

00:49:36 ◼   ► Command-F is "find" in like every other application.

00:49:40 ◼   ► I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:49:41 ◼   ► Globe, globe, globe-F.

00:49:43 ◼   ► Okay, okay, that I can forgive.

00:49:45 ◼   ► I was like, if-

00:49:46 ◼   ► Hold on, because it gets better, Steven.

00:49:47 ◼   ► They have added a command for minimizing windows,

00:49:52 ◼   ► but it's not called minimize.

00:49:55 ◼   ► However, the shortcut is, and I'm getting this right,

00:49:58 ◼   ► command-M, like on the Mac,

00:50:02 ◼   ► but it's called removeWindow.

00:50:05 ◼   ► So when you do Command + M in Stage Manager,

00:50:08 ◼   ► you don't minimize it, you remove a window from the set.

00:50:12 ◼   ► It's okay, it's Command + M though.

00:50:16 ◼   ► That's minimize.

00:50:17 ◼   ► - I'll tell you that does not work in messages.

00:50:19 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:50:21 ◼   ► That is a conflicting shortcut in messages

00:50:23 ◼   ► that shows keyboard shortcuts, apparently.

00:50:26 ◼   ► - They have added a new keyboard.

00:50:28 ◼   ► - Do these people talk to each other

00:50:30 ◼   ► when they work on these things?

00:50:31 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:50:35 ◼   ► I've got messages open and all it's doing is like opening and closing the text field.

00:50:39 ◼   ► Amazing. They have added a keyboard shortcut for bringing in another window, so that's nice.

00:50:48 ◼   ► Basically, when you press Ctrl + Glob up, it now shows you the home screen, so it's like what they

00:50:55 ◼   ► did last year with Split View. Now the same works in Stage Manager. And, thankfully, they have

00:51:04 ◼   ► added a keyboard equivalent for moving a window to an external display. So now there's a hotkey

00:51:12 ◼   ► to do that. It's Ctrl+Globe... what's it called? Like, the reverse backslash? Is that the name?

00:51:20 ◼   ► Reverse backslash? I guess. Anyway, there's a hotkey... - Slash? Wait, front slash... forward slash!

00:51:26 ◼   ► - No, it's not the forward one. It's the other one. Backslash. Just backslash? Is that the name?

00:51:33 ◼   ► What's the name of... not the forward one, the other one?

00:51:39 ◼   ► It's not a forward slash.

00:51:41 ◼   ► Reverse- Slash.

00:51:42 ◼   ► Backslash.

00:51:43 ◼   ► It's just slash and backslash.

00:51:45 ◼   ► Backslash!

00:51:46 ◼   ► Backslash, right?

00:51:48 ◼   ► Backslash exists.

00:51:49 ◼   ► What's happening?

00:51:50 ◼   ► Forward, reverse, backslash.

00:51:53 ◼   ► No.

00:51:54 ◼   ► What's it called?

00:51:55 ◼   ► Slash or backslash?

00:51:56 ◼   ► Oh god.

00:51:57 ◼   ► Anyway, backslash?

00:51:58 ◼   ► Is that the name?

00:51:59 ◼   ► Federico.

00:52:00 ◼   ► Federico.

00:52:01 ◼   ► Federico, Federico, I tell you what, set in iMessage, paste the character that you are

00:52:07 ◼   ► seeing and we can tell you what it is. So you send that one to us in iMessage and then

00:52:13 ◼   ► we can tell you whether it's forward slash or backslash.

00:52:17 ◼   ► What's the name of this?

00:52:18 ◼   ► Okay.

00:52:19 ◼   ► Backslash.

00:52:20 ◼   ► Backslash, okay.

00:52:21 ◼   ► That's a backslash.

00:52:22 ◼   ► And the other is forward slash.

00:52:25 ◼   ► Forward slash.

00:52:26 ◼   ► Okay.

00:52:27 ◼   ► Or just slash.

00:52:28 ◼   ► Or just slash.

00:52:29 ◼   ► See, that was my confusion.

00:52:30 ◼   ► OK, so there's Ctrl+Globe\ to move a window to another display.

00:52:38 ◼   ► So you don't have to use the multitasking menu anymore for that.

00:52:41 ◼   ► But that's about it, in terms of changes, I think.

00:52:44 ◼   ► You still can...

00:52:46 ◼   ► Like if you try to right-click on a window set on the left, it still does nothing.

00:52:53 ◼   ► Which is still weird to me.

00:52:56 ◼   ► I think you should be able to right-click on a Windows set and have a context menu or

00:53:02 ◼   ► something, right?

00:53:03 ◼   ► I can't be the only one wishing for that.

00:53:06 ◼   ► Let me do something here.

00:53:08 ◼   ► But no, it does nothing.

00:53:09 ◼   ► Even if it's just to break it up, right?

00:53:12 ◼   ► Like close all of these or...

00:53:14 ◼   ► Yeah, break it up or move it to a display or something like that.

00:53:18 ◼   ► I just stuffed away my external monitor and I put it into my drawer.

00:53:22 ◼   ► So that's the cool thing about this.

00:53:25 ◼   ► This portable monitor, by the way, I think I said this on Unwind with Jon, and I'm going

00:53:30 ◼   ► to say it before, has to be one of my favorite tech purchases of the year.

00:53:34 ◼   ► It's the C-Force.

00:53:35 ◼   ► You've gotten a lot of miles out of this thing, for sure.

00:53:39 ◼   ► Like loads of different uses.

00:53:40 ◼   ► It's incredible.

00:53:41 ◼   ► Loads of different uses.

00:53:42 ◼   ► It has, so it's called the C-Force OLED display.

00:53:46 ◼   ► It's a 15.6 inches portable OLED display.

00:53:51 ◼   ► And it's incredible.

00:53:52 ◼   ► Like with the iPad Pro, you can run a single cable from the USB-C port on the iPad into

00:53:58 ◼   ► the display, it powers the display, and it sends the appropriate video signal to use

00:54:04 ◼   ► it as an external monitor in iPadOS 16.

00:54:08 ◼   ► I use it with the Nintendo Switch, I use it with the Steam Deck, I've used it with the

00:54:12 ◼   ► Aya Neo, it's incredible.

00:54:14 ◼   ► You can use it with the MacBook Pro, obviously, if you want.

00:54:18 ◼   ► What is it called?

00:54:19 ◼   ► C-Force, as in the letter C.

00:54:22 ◼   ► As in-

00:54:23 ◼   ► - Oh, I was searching.

00:54:24 ◼   ► - S-E-A.

00:54:25 ◼   ► - No, no, C.

00:54:26 ◼   ► - I was just getting both.

00:54:26 ◼   ► - No, no, no.

00:54:27 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:54:28 ◼   ► C- - It's like the Navy.

00:54:30 ◼   ► - C-Force.

00:54:31 ◼   ► - The C-Force.

00:54:32 ◼   ► - Like the C-Force, yeah.

00:54:33 ◼   ► It's the C-Force display.

00:54:35 ◼   ► - CF015 Next, 4K OLED,

00:54:38 ◼   ► HDMI and USB-C random plug portable display.

00:54:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's mine.

00:54:44 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:54:45 ◼   ► - Cool.

00:54:46 ◼   ► And the shirtless.

00:54:47 ◼   ► - Incredible panel.

00:54:48 ◼   ► I think it's a Samsung panel actually.

00:54:51 ◼   ► So it looks fantastic.

00:54:53 ◼   ► Great for gaming for sure,

00:54:55 ◼   ► but also works in productivity related scenarios.

00:55:00 ◼   ► So yeah.

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00:56:58 ◼   ► I made a purchase.

00:57:00 ◼   ► M2 MacBook...

00:57:01 ◼   ► No, I'm just kidding.

00:57:03 ◼   ► Oh no, I'm sorry.

00:57:04 ◼   ► I have real time said follow up.

00:57:08 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:57:10 ◼   ► Let's pour one out for poster board, the application that used to be.

00:57:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:57:17 ◼   ► You could invoke it from shortcuts in iOS 16 beta one, but that's no longer possible.

00:57:24 ◼   ► That's not surprising.

00:57:25 ◼   ► That's a bummer.

00:57:26 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:57:27 ◼   ► So go ahead, Stephen.

00:57:29 ◼   ► So I've made a purchase, the new 35 watt dual USB C charger from Apple.

00:57:37 ◼   ► Okay.

00:57:38 ◼   ► The compact one.

00:57:39 ◼   ► two versions of it. There's a big boy and a little boy. I got the little one.

00:57:44 ◼   ► Is it like in volume? It's pretty big. Because like they're just arranged differently. One is

00:57:51 ◼   ► wide and one is tall. Wait, wait, there's two of them? In some markets. Am I some market? In US,

00:57:58 ◼   ► Canada, China, Japan and Mexico. Otherwise they use the other one. However, what I will say for

00:58:05 ◼   ► the other one, the taller one, is it has the interchangeable duck head. They're not all called

00:58:13 ◼   ► duck heads are they? But interchangeable adapters. So you could use one thing in a bunch of different

00:58:19 ◼   ► places. So that is the benefit at least. If you were taking it to America you'd just need one of

00:58:24 ◼   ► the little America things and you could swap that on instead of the Europe one. So I think it's just

00:58:31 ◼   ► just because they haven't found a way to make

00:58:34 ◼   ► a collapsible one for other markets yet, I guess.

00:58:38 ◼   ► - It's pretty nice.

00:58:39 ◼   ► The compact one also has like grooves on the side

00:58:42 ◼   ► for like put your like thumb on to like unplug it

00:58:44 ◼   ► and plug it in, which is kind of a nice touch.

00:58:46 ◼   ► And the prongs fold flat.

00:58:49 ◼   ► It's interesting how they work.

00:58:50 ◼   ► So it's 35 watt total,

00:58:55 ◼   ► not 35 watts per USB-C port.

00:58:58 ◼   ► So if you connect a Mac and an iPhone or an iPad,

00:59:03 ◼   ► it'll split it 17.5 watts each.

00:59:07 ◼   ► But if you connect something like an Apple Watch or AirPods,

00:59:10 ◼   ► they can just pull 7.5 watts,

00:59:13 ◼   ► leaving the other 27 and a half

00:59:15 ◼   ► for whatever is in the other port.

00:59:19 ◼   ► So it's doing a balancing act depending on what's plugged in

00:59:23 ◼   ► but I got this for our kitchen

00:59:25 ◼   ► where we were habitually like unplugging and replugging

00:59:30 ◼   ► different cables in to just a single,

00:59:33 ◼   ► I think it was a like an 18 watt,

00:59:36 ◼   ► like the old iPad one USB-A.

00:59:38 ◼   ► So it'd have like a lightning cable,

00:59:40 ◼   ► but then also a micro USB for some other stuff.

00:59:44 ◼   ► And now I've just got this thing

00:59:46 ◼   ► and it is definitely bigger.

00:59:47 ◼   ► And it's a little weird for an Apple thing.

00:59:50 ◼   ► It's like the ports are on the bottom.

00:59:55 ◼   ► So the cables come down like down flat against the wall instead of out, which I actually like in the situation that I'm using it.

01:00:02 ◼   ► I think it'd also be nice like behind a bed or something because it's snugger to the wall than the more traditional Apple style where it's sort of long ways out from the wall.

01:00:13 ◼   ► So I can see uses for the compact one and seems fine charging stuff, you know, doing what it's supposed to do and has been well received in my household.

01:00:24 ◼   ► It's funny because this adapter style, we have one that Apple makes in the UK, it's

01:00:31 ◼   ► the standard one. And it collapses in on itself and has the plug in the bottom with the grooves

01:00:38 ◼   ► on the side. So it's just intriguing to me that they haven't found a way to make the

01:00:42 ◼   ► more powerful one when we already have this design style. This is fine, I've gone all

01:00:47 ◼   ► in on this mini X plug that Gray found which is tiny and it's 66 watts and it's

01:00:55 ◼   ► it's GAN and it has two USB C ports and a USB A port and can do up to 66 watts

01:01:02 ◼   ► I'm all in on this one so this gets a big recommendation from me by the way

01:01:08 ◼   ► for a similar product that that has more features yeah I've got one in my bag for

01:01:13 ◼   ► like travel, but I didn't need that much juice in the kitchen, and so...

01:01:20 ◼   ► Isn't that where you keep the juice?

01:01:22 ◼   ► I've taken a slightly different approach instead. I have purchased a series, really,

01:01:31 ◼   ► multiple of those Anker Nano 2 GaN chargers. These output up to 65 watts,

01:01:43 ◼   ► and they're so small, like I've bought four of them, and I've basically placed

01:01:48 ◼   ► them in each drawer of the house. So like if you're looking for a charger, there's

01:01:53 ◼   ► a charger, and it uses, you know, 65 watts. It's good enough for anything really.

01:01:59 ◼   ► iPads, Nintendo Switch, laptops. I mean it's not as fast as MagSafe, but it

01:02:07 ◼   ► gets you there. And it does one, right? You can charge one? And it's one, and

01:02:11 ◼   ► And it's like this small cube that you can hold in your hand.

01:02:15 ◼   ► It's very nice, actually.

01:02:17 ◼   ► And I have multiple of these scattered, essentially,

01:02:20 ◼   ► throughout the house.

01:02:21 ◼   ► And it works.

01:02:22 ◼   ► We love it.

01:02:23 ◼   ► But I also have that wild--

01:02:25 ◼   ► I also have that wild hyper battery

01:02:27 ◼   ► that I received finally after the Indiegogo campaign

01:02:32 ◼   ► that outputs--

01:02:34 ◼   ► I don't know, how much is it?

01:02:35 ◼   ► 240 watts or something?

01:02:37 ◼   ► Like it fits the, like it's the,

01:02:42 ◼   ► it cannot get any bigger than this

01:02:44 ◼   ► if you wanna go on an airplane with this battery.

01:02:47 ◼   ► Like this is the maximum capacity for--

01:02:51 ◼   ► - Is this the 245 watt USB-C battery pack and GAN charger?

01:02:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

01:02:57 ◼   ► - And it's got the little screen on it, right?

01:02:58 ◼   ► - It's got the little screen.

01:02:59 ◼   ► It's amazing because it shows you

01:03:00 ◼   ► when you're charging the battery,

01:03:02 ◼   ► how fast you're gonna charge it

01:03:04 ◼   ► and how long it's gonna take.

01:03:07 ◼   ► or if you're charging from the battery other devices,

01:03:12 ◼   ► it shows you the charging rate

01:03:15 ◼   ► that they're pulling from the battery.

01:03:17 ◼   ► And it's got two 100-watt plugs, ports, sorry,

01:03:22 ◼   ► and two 65-watt ports.

01:03:28 ◼   ► So if I wanna charge my MacBook Pro,

01:03:30 ◼   ► I can just use the 100-watt port, and it's incredible,

01:03:35 ◼   ► because I believe the 14-inch Pro tops out a 96-watt charging for USB-C,

01:03:42 ◼   ► so that's great.

01:03:43 ◼   ► Otherwise, I just use the 65-watt one for my Nintendo Switch or Steam Deck.

01:03:48 ◼   ► And yeah, I love this thing, but it's so...

01:03:50 ◼   ► It's like you can hurt somebody with this thing.

01:03:54 ◼   ► It's so heavy, but...

01:03:56 ◼   ► I found another product for you.

01:03:59 ◼   ► It's called the 12 South to 12 South 3-in-1 charger.

01:04:06 ◼   ► It is like many of these products, it does three things.

01:04:09 ◼   ► It has a 7.5 watt magnetic Qi charger, an Apple watch charger and a 5 watt Qi charger

01:04:15 ◼   ► in the base.

01:04:16 ◼   ► So you could have your iPhone held up, you could put your Apple watch behind it and you

01:04:22 ◼   ► put your AirPods on the little base and it would charge them all.

01:04:24 ◼   ► Somewhat slowly but it would charge them all.

01:04:26 ◼   ► What I like about this product is it has a built in temperature control that pairs with

01:04:32 ◼   ► voltage protection for keeping, as it's quote, "for keeping the entire package from overheating

01:04:37 ◼   ► when you're topping up all three devices at once."

01:04:40 ◼   ► I think that's cool.

01:04:41 ◼   ► I feel like, you know me, I want to know things have that in it and I feel like not a lot

01:04:45 ◼   ► of companies say that they do this and so I think that's cool.

01:04:49 ◼   ► So I would feel confident having this thing by my bedside to charge everything.

01:04:54 ◼   ► putting the air and air power. That's what they're doing. Keeping it cool.

01:04:57 ◼   ► It doesn't keep it cool, it just recognizes that it's hot and turns it off.

01:05:01 ◼   ► It could have a fan. Put a fan in there.

01:05:04 ◼   ► Federico has one of the fan in, right?

01:05:07 ◼   ► You used to. Remember when I received that charger that had like a fan, you could hear it.

01:05:14 ◼   ► It was like a white noise machine for your nightstand.

01:05:19 ◼   ► Yeah, because it was doing what AirPower was trying to do, right?

01:05:23 ◼   ► It was like seven charging coils in one pad.

01:05:27 ◼   ► Place anything anywhere and it's gonna charge.

01:05:30 ◼   ► Bad idea.

01:05:31 ◼   ► Bad idea.

01:05:32 ◼   ► Man, we were really into that, like as a human species, until a few years ago.

01:05:38 ◼   ► And then I think we all sort of accepted that it's preferable to avoid a house fire

01:05:44 ◼   ► and just have distinct placements for devices.

01:05:48 ◼   ► That was a weird moment in human history.

01:05:50 ◼   ► - Not particularly hard to just put the thing down

01:05:53 ◼   ► on the charger, you know?

01:05:55 ◼   ► Like in the place where you're supposed to,

01:05:57 ◼   ► rather than a requirement to have a pad

01:06:02 ◼   ► where you can arbitrarily put the thing down.

01:06:04 ◼   ► I don't know how helpful,

01:06:05 ◼   ► I don't really think that's very helpful.

01:06:07 ◼   ► But you know, I'm an anti-chi person anyway, so.

01:06:12 ◼   ► - Is that a particular trait

01:06:16 ◼   ► that you describe yourself with.

01:06:19 ◼   ► Like, that's a very--

01:06:20 ◼   ► - Anti-chi, yeah. - Anti-chi person.

01:06:23 ◼   ► That's a very specific thing.

01:06:24 ◼   ► - Anti-wireless.

01:06:25 ◼   ► I'm trying to think of a better phrase for this.

01:06:27 ◼   ► I haven't got it yet.

01:06:28 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

01:06:30 ◼   ► We learned today that you don't like that

01:06:33 ◼   ► and you don't like when people talk to you

01:06:35 ◼   ► in other time zones.

01:06:37 ◼   ► That's useful information to have about you.

01:06:40 ◼   ► - Never speak to me--

01:06:41 ◼   ► - In another time zone. - In another time zone

01:06:43 ◼   ► about wireless charging.

01:06:45 ◼   ► I don't want to know.

01:06:46 ◼   ► You keep it to yourself.

01:06:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's where you draw the line, yeah.

01:06:51 ◼   ► - I want to talk about WeatherKit for a minute.

01:06:53 ◼   ► This was something that definitely got some attention

01:06:57 ◼   ► the week of WWDC.

01:06:58 ◼   ► So Apple bought Dark Sky a couple of years ago now.

01:07:02 ◼   ► I feel like it's been a minute.

01:07:03 ◼   ► - It was more than one WWDC ago.

01:07:06 ◼   ► - I think we talked about this

01:07:07 ◼   ► in the run up to WWDC last year.

01:07:09 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:07:10 ◼   ► - But they have a new framework called WeatherKit.

01:07:15 ◼   ► kit powered by Apple weather is what they're saying. And if you read the

01:07:19 ◼   ► description, it is basically dark sky. So current weather conditions, 10 day

01:07:25 ◼   ► hourly forecast for temperature, precipitation, wind, UV index, and more.

01:07:31 ◼   ► And of course, the thing dark sky, I think was probably most famous for

01:07:34 ◼   ► minute by minute precipitation for the next hour, in addition to severe weather

01:07:40 ◼   ► alerts in some regions. So they've taken Dark Sky, which had an API, it's in a lot

01:07:46 ◼   ► of third-party weather apps now, and they have rebundled it as WeatherKit.

01:07:53 ◼   ► It's a Swift API, they didn't even, I guess, bother putting it in

01:07:58 ◼   ► Objective-C, so it is all Swift. I mean, if they're making something brand new,

01:08:02 ◼   ► yeah, why would they? They're not gonna be. It's gonna be in Swift now, and it's

01:08:05 ◼   ► kind of like, I'm sorry, if you're not gonna learn Swift... if you're a developer

01:08:10 ◼   ► you were refusing to learn Swift,

01:08:12 ◼   ► I got bad news for you, right?

01:08:14 ◼   ► Like at this point, you've got to understand, right?

01:08:17 ◼   ► Like this is where they're going,

01:08:19 ◼   ► whether you kind of want it or not.

01:08:21 ◼   ► - And what's cool is, so there are platform specific APIs

01:08:25 ◼   ► for iOS 16, Mac OS, tvOS, watchOS,

01:08:29 ◼   ► but there's also a rest API for other platforms.

01:08:32 ◼   ► So they're giving you more options there.

01:08:34 ◼   ► And as you would imagine from Apple,

01:08:36 ◼   ► it's very privacy focused.

01:08:38 ◼   ► And so they say that location is only used

01:08:42 ◼   ► to provide weather forecast.

01:08:44 ◼   ► It is not associated with anything personally identifiable

01:08:47 ◼   ► and is never tracked between requests.

01:08:50 ◼   ► So anytime you request new information,

01:08:53 ◼   ► they're not linking that with previous location data.

01:08:57 ◼   ► And they've got some pricing information up

01:09:00 ◼   ► up to 20 million calls a month, which is $1,000.

01:09:04 ◼   ► I don't know what happens if you need more than that,

01:09:07 ◼   ► but they've got those calls.

01:09:10 ◼   ► It's 500,000 for free, which is cool.

01:09:13 ◼   ► And it goes up from there to that 20 million cap.

01:09:16 ◼   ► And that is about half the cost of the dark sky data.

01:09:20 ◼   ► You know, one reason that weather apps

01:09:22 ◼   ► basically all have in-app purchases

01:09:25 ◼   ► is to pay for that weather data.

01:09:28 ◼   ► It's not free.

01:09:29 ◼   ► Apple is being really competitive

01:09:31 ◼   ► with this pricing, it looks like.

01:09:32 ◼   ► So I think this is great.

01:09:34 ◼   ► I spoke to a couple of developers who work on weather apps

01:09:37 ◼   ► And every, basically everyone I talk to is very excited about it, uh, both about

01:09:42 ◼   ► the, uh, the features in this, but even the transition from dark sky, um, Brian

01:09:49 ◼   ► Mueller who makes carrot weather, uh, says that it seems like they've providing

01:09:53 ◼   ► for really excellent transition.

01:09:54 ◼   ► If you're using those older APIs and a lot of, uh, folks are also just.

01:10:00 ◼   ► Very happy about the way it's being implemented from the privacy perspective

01:10:05 ◼   ► to the REST API for bringing it to the web.

01:10:09 ◼   ► There does seem to be a challenge

01:10:11 ◼   ► that it does require iOS 16.

01:10:14 ◼   ► So if your app maintains backwards compatibility with iOS 15

01:10:18 ◼   ► you may have to do some work there

01:10:22 ◼   ► to maybe have two different code paths, at least for now.

01:10:25 ◼   ► But it seems like it's gonna be a real winner.

01:10:28 ◼   ► And I think this is what we all thought

01:10:30 ◼   ► when they bought dark skies.

01:10:31 ◼   ► Like, yeah, you should not only make

01:10:33 ◼   ► your own weather app better,

01:10:34 ◼   ► which they definitely have, but it can also,

01:10:38 ◼   ► it would be great if Apple had a framework

01:10:40 ◼   ► to deliver weather data to third party developers.

01:10:45 ◼   ► And I know that in Carrot Weather,

01:10:46 ◼   ► I actually don't use Dark Sky as my source.

01:10:50 ◼   ► I use it, I have the option to like use it for precipitation,

01:10:55 ◼   ► but I use a different source for the other weather data.

01:10:57 ◼   ► And I may set that all back to Dark Sky,

01:11:00 ◼   ► or I'm definitely gonna check out the Apple weather option,

01:11:04 ◼   ► assuming that it's gonna come to care

01:11:06 ◼   ► at whether it sounds like it will, but pretty cool.

01:11:09 ◼   ► And I think this is a good example of Apple.

01:11:12 ◼   ► I mean, really this is a service, right?

01:11:14 ◼   ► It's a service to developers, but users will benefit too,

01:11:17 ◼   ► especially with the privacy angle.

01:11:18 ◼   ► There've been several stories over the years

01:11:20 ◼   ► about whether services or applications

01:11:25 ◼   ► basically wholesaling location data.

01:11:27 ◼   ► And that is not gonna be possible

01:11:30 ◼   ► at least at the Apple weather API level.

01:11:34 ◼   ► And that is a good thing.

01:11:35 ◼   ► It's basically how I assumed Apple would do it.

01:11:37 ◼   ► And so I'm pumped.

01:11:40 ◼   ► - So it says on the Dark Sky website,

01:11:42 ◼   ► support for the Dark Sky iOS app ends on December 31st, 2022.

01:11:46 ◼   ► Support for the Dark Sky API ends on March 31st, 2023.

01:11:51 ◼   ► So I guess going back to what you're saying

01:11:53 ◼   ► about the iOS 16 part,

01:11:55 ◼   ► I guess there could be a hope from developers

01:11:57 ◼   ► that by March 2023, probably the majority of their user base would be on 16, and so

01:12:04 ◼   ► they would be able to drop it, right? By then, maybe, I don't know. But I do have a couple

01:12:08 ◼   ► of thoughts on the pricing. One, I believe I saw Brian Karat tweet that...

01:12:14 ◼   ► Brian Karat.

01:12:15 ◼   ► I mean, this is how I think of him. You know, he's a Karat.

01:12:19 ◼   ► Yeah, it's our whole family, Brian Karat, Joe Timery.

01:12:22 ◼   ► Yeah, the Karat family.

01:12:23 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

01:12:24 ◼   ► Yes, I do do this. I don't know if developers like this or not, but at least I'm saying

01:12:29 ◼   ► the names of their apps, right? I feel like they must appreciate that.

01:12:31 ◼   ► I don't think James Peacock has ever complained.

01:12:33 ◼   ► That's a good point. Or James Dice.

01:12:35 ◼   ► James Dice.

01:12:36 ◼   ► You know, people could call me Myke Relay if they wanted. I wouldn't care, you know?

01:12:41 ◼   ► I think I saw him say that he would need way more than the limit that Apple has, and that

01:12:49 ◼   ► wouldn't surprise me, that that 20 million calls a month would not be enough. I am sure

01:12:54 ◼   ► Apple will do a deal with you.

01:12:57 ◼   ► Right?

01:12:58 ◼   ► Like, if you need more than 20 million, I mean, they probably already know who you are

01:13:02 ◼   ► anyway, right?

01:13:03 ◼   ► I'm going to assume Apple would just kind of be like, they know the biggest weather

01:13:07 ◼   ► apps on the platform, I'm sure they would be able to work out a deal with you.

01:13:11 ◼   ► And I'm sure this is just a scalable thing.

01:13:13 ◼   ► If you need more, you just pay more.

01:13:15 ◼   ► But they have to kind of, they just got to top it out at some point, pass that, you talk

01:13:19 ◼   ► to them.

01:13:20 ◼   ► The other thing that I was going to mention is I'm actually, this maybe is weird, but

01:13:24 ◼   ► I'll get there by the end.

01:13:25 ◼   ► I'm happy Apple is charging for this,

01:13:28 ◼   ► because if it was free,

01:13:32 ◼   ► I would be worried about the developers of weather apps,

01:13:37 ◼   ► because I'm just gonna naturally assume

01:13:40 ◼   ► there is a markup in the in-app purchase.

01:13:44 ◼   ► This is business.

01:13:45 ◼   ► I'm assuming that when you pay for a weather app,

01:13:51 ◼   ► you are not just paying the exact cost

01:13:55 ◼   ► of your percentage of their fee, right?

01:13:59 ◼   ► If that was the case,

01:14:01 ◼   ► I need to have some conversations with weather developers

01:14:04 ◼   ► to tell them why they're running businesses poorly, right?

01:14:07 ◼   ► You're not just paying for the cost.

01:14:08 ◼   ► So if Apple didn't charge for this at all,

01:14:13 ◼   ► then app developers are gonna start getting questions

01:14:17 ◼   ► about like, why do I need to pay you every month

01:14:19 ◼   ► for this weather service app.

01:14:22 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

01:14:23 ◼   ► So I'm happy Apple is actually charging

01:14:25 ◼   ► because it allows the status quo to continue.

01:14:30 ◼   ► That even if you choose to use Apple weather

01:14:35 ◼   ► as your service in weather app A, B or C,

01:14:40 ◼   ► you still have to pay for it

01:14:41 ◼   ► 'cause it still costs the developer money.

01:14:43 ◼   ► So I just like that they have kept that status quo

01:14:46 ◼   ► because they could have made this freely available

01:14:50 ◼   ► like many other things are in Apple's platforms

01:14:53 ◼   ► that in theory would still cost money,

01:14:56 ◼   ► but they make them freely available.

01:14:58 ◼   ► - And a free service may attract government interest, right?

01:15:03 ◼   ► If they're coming into a market

01:15:05 ◼   ► and saying we can do it for free.

01:15:07 ◼   ► - That's a good point too.

01:15:09 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm just happy that they're continuing to charge

01:15:11 ◼   ► 'cause it lets whether app developers still charge.

01:15:13 ◼   ► And it's one of the apps types that I think makes a lot of sense for

01:15:17 ◼   ► subscriptions because it has a fee and it's just like easy, right? Um,

01:15:21 ◼   ► and I'm just pleased that it's not going to like make it difficult for these

01:15:24 ◼   ► people to continue running their businesses.

01:15:26 ◼   ► I think that does it. If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about,

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01:16:22 ◼   ► Until next week guys, say goodbye.

01:16:24 ◼   ► Not even dead to you.

01:16:25 ◼   ► Cheerio.