406: The iPhone is Touching You Back
  
   
 
 
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     Hello, and welcome to Connected, episode 406. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's made possible this week by our sponsors, Sourcegraph, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Bombas, Indeed, and Ladder. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My name is Stephen Hackett, and I have the pleasure of being joined by Myke Hurley. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Why, hello there. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Oh, and I am joined by Federico Vittucci. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Hi, Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     also here I forgot that I had to do the next bit you think I would have gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
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     used to this by now but I haven't I was waving at the wall as I said that hi 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hey big money hack it oh mm-hmm how's your kick start going it's good let me 
     
     
  
 
 
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     look we go to this Lincoln can you hear us over the sound of money $1,638 yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah, yeah, yeah, 734 backers, three weeks to go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah, till August 5th to go back it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I'm on track for it to be bigger than last year, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Bigger money hacking. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Thank you to all 734 of you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But there's a lot more of you out there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who haven't backed it yet. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So go get on it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steven is, Steven is inviting you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to fund his Kickstarter campaign. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Come with me on this journey of creation. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I got an Instagram ad yesterday for something, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know what it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can't remember, but it said, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "Such and such account invites you to follow them." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I was like, "Ooh." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - My favorite, but also least favorite part of Instagram 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is when they do suggestions of people you should follow. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's like, so and so, comma, whom you may know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's like such a weird bit of copywriting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Well, 'cause they're not sure, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - They're Facebook, they're sure. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - They think you might know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - They're sure. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Or maybe, yeah, they know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They just don't want you to know they know. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     They're like, "I don't know, maybe you met him sometime. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know, how could I know? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm just Facebook. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's how they go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - That's how they go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Public betas are out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico, y'all had a trio of stories over on Mac stories 
     
     
  
 
 
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     covering iOS and iPadOS, Mac OS Ventura, WatchOS 9. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What is sort of your sense of the state of these betas 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and has there been anything surprising 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so far as more people have jumped on board? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Like I said in the story, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think things are pretty okay on the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     On the iPhone side of things, widgets are, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there aren't that many obviously in Apple's own apps, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is a bit surprising. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was kind of hoping Apple to, you know, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was kind of hoping to see them add more widgets 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for their own stuff, but they're working-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - On the lock screen, do you mean? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - On the lock screen, yes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Lock screen widgets. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but they're working and the multiple wallpapers system is working. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think things are a bit more rough on the iPad with Stage Manager on iPadOS at the moment, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like in terms of stability and performance. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I still get daily soft reboots of the iPad, like it doesn't actually reboot, the springboard 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just crashes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like external display support is kind of unusable for me at the moment, in that whenever I try to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do something with an application that has multiple windows open, usually one on the iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one on the external display, the thing just crashes. And I think last week I found a way 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to reliably and consistently crash the iPad when using an external display. So I guess my advice 
     
     
  
 
 
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     would be if you want to really try out Stage Manager, fine, but keep in mind that if this is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your only iPad that you're also using for production work, it's not super stable right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And you still have the occasional, or maybe not so occasional, weirdness with Stage Manager if you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     using the kind of app like Obsidian, for example, that is not super native or doesn't really use 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all the latest and greatest iPadOS APIs, you may be in, not for a bad time, but for some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     adjustments like... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You're in for a bad time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like this is what happens. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was using Google Docs today with universal control. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was typing stuff into Google Docs on my iPad and the suggestions bar was floating 
     
     
  
 
 
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     halfway in the middle of the screen, like the little, like what do you call it, the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     quick type bar. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know if it has a different name now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And there was no keyboard that was just floating there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And then when I moved my keyboard, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like kind of back to my Mac, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I got just the top row of software keyboard popping up in, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but only in the application. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It wasn't like outside the application window. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - It was just in the application. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I mean, yeah, why not, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - I mean, type some numbers, kind of stuff like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's good for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So that kind of stuff happens. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Overall, though, I'm using it, and it's OK. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is making me faster, stage manager, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, as I wrote in the story. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yes, some apps are not that fun to use. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Overall, I already have seen one example of a friend of mine 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who's not into usually tech stuff, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But he saw the beta on my iPhone and he got really curious. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And then I explained, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm actually working on this article for Monday 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because like the public beta is coming out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And on Tuesday he showed me that he had the public beta 
     
     
  
 
 
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     up and running on his iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And he said like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - You're an influencer. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I really want, well, that's the thing though. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I think lock screens, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like multiple lock screens with widgets, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're really gonna resonate with people. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It's good looking. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - My eyes love how my lock screen looks. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I got the time set up, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like in I'm using the New York font. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it just looks like so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It just looks so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think you may have mentioned this in app stories 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't remember, but like, and I agree with you now, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like I wasn't sure at first, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I think this is going to take off again. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     'Cause you can't, the widgets aren't the thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's making the like aesthetics this time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's actually what Apple's given. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So like between the clock and the depth effects and the colors that you can put on things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and like the kind of filters you can put on images and stuff, I think people are going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to really, really dig it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And then they can also add a few little widgets. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But like I don't, there isn't really as many options for the aesthetic stuff I feel like. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like you can't make widgets look a different color and stuff like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it's going to help. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I think that people are going to really dig it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it's going to be pretty popular again. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, yeah, I agree. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We're going to, later on in the episode, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we're going to talk about some of our favorite features of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iOS 16, just some little bits and bobs. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I did want to just touch on the fact that I think you are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     both running the watchOS beta, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     General curiosity? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
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     What is it like? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     The beta is basically fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I haven't had any real stability issues. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've only been running it a couple of days, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so it's still early for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The battery life definitely isn't amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm still making it through a day 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I've got whatever the current big size watch is. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     44 millimeter? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I forget the numbers. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     I have the 72 millimeter. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Dinner plate on your wrist. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You got an iPad on your wrist. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, my watch says 45 on the back. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I took it off to look. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay, then that one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It says a lot of things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     45 millimeter stainless steel and ceramic case, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Sapphire crystal, GPS, LTE, WR-60M Apple Watch Series 7. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This, I just read the whole thing to you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, that's good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Do you remember that time when there was that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like prototype that showed up on eBay 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it had really weird letters on it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and we made it the episode title? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I do, that was good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't remember what it was, but yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So, but you're, why did you both do it? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, it was just curiosity for you, Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Did you, was there any specific reason for you stealing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, I take my job seriously. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I want to see what the betas are doing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - That's unnecessary. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - We're flexed. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Do you consider the Apple Watch part of your job? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, is that? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - No, it's not. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I don't have an Alex to cover the Apple Watch for me, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but yeah, I mean, I was curious as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I also wanted to see what the, you know, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They've changed some of the design stuff where like the notifications are like teeny tiny 
     
     
  
 
 
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     banners that come in from the top, which is super weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't actually don't like it that much because I think they're easy to miss. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's the best part. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     Oh, interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So this is just when you're doing something on the watch, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     The little banners are small? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it's anytime the screen is in the sort of awake mode. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So like if you're doing something. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     We're like looking at. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     occlude what you're looking at, it's just kind of strange. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But, and we'll talk about it in the next section by iOS 16, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's the watch is sort of the part two 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the medication feature and it's its own app on watchOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's nice to have those reminders there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But, you know, it's not a huge change. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, watchOS has kind of been like the structure elements, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know, they've moved around so much in the beginning. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Remember they had like glances in the beginning and then they had the doc. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh my god, what were glances? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What's a glances? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:59
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     Wasn't it glances? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, no, no, I remember the word. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, what were they? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:05
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     They came up from the bottom and... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:07
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     What are you talking about? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     By the way, it was 88XXBain. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That was the... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:16
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     That's right. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:10:18
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     I found an article from 2015 about glances. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Basically, it was like a scrolling horizontal list 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of kind of what the doc is now in watchOS, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but a worse version of it 'cause it was early days. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But over the last couple of years, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:35
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     they've settled down in terms of where things are. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And other than like the medication app 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:40
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     and the new notification style, it's pretty much what it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:44
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     - Man, this is, I don't remember this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:47
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     No, me neither. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:10:49
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     I don't, I do not remember this feature, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this glasses feature. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:10:56
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     It may have only been a year. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, it was, remember like the first couple of versions 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of watchOS, they were just moving stuff all around, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:02
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     trying to figure out what it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:03
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     The Siri, Siri watch face. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:05
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     Siri, exactly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:07
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     Siri watch face. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:07
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     That's still a thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:08
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     I used that for a while. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:09
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     Yeah, still a thing, I used it for a while, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but they don't do anything to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:11:12
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     Because I, there's a new watch face that I really want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:17
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     it's called the Metropolitan watch face and so I've been like toying around 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:22
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     putting the bater on my Apple watch just to try that watch face but like I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know if I'm committed to this idea yet. I might give myself a treat to like to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wait you know like I'll wait until September for a simple little treat. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:32
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     And I'm definitely still making it to the end of the day I mean it's not like it's 6 p.m. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:37
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     and my watch is entering low-power mode but I'm definitely before I was ending 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:41
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     the day at 50% battery or something you know it may be 35% now or 40% 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:46
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     now so it's definitely using a little more power that's very common on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:50
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     betas the iPhone beta for me in particular has been pretty bad in terms 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:54
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     of battery life but they always improve that as they go so I'm not I'm not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:58
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     worried about that long term I have one more question for you both have you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:02
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     tried the haptic keyboard yes I enabled it right away and I love it I enabled it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it and I turned it off. No. Yeah, I don't know what it is. I just like, I tried it and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:17
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     then all of a sudden I was like I don't want to do this anymore. No, you gotta give in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:22
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     to it. Just let it be for a while and then you just get used to it. I'm gonna turn it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:27
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     back on again. It's like you're touching your iPhone to type and the iPhone is touching 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:32
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     you back. That's not what I want from it. I mean I always like it on Android phones 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I don't know why I turned it off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:40
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     I'm going to turn it back on again then and I'll see how I feel. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:43
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     Where is it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:44
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     It's in a weird part of the operating system. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:46
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     ► 
     It's in sound and haptics. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:48
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     ► 
     Yeah, it should be in keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:12:50
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     Keyboard feedback and then there's a toggle for haptic. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:53
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     ► 
     All right, I'm going to try it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:55
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     It's in like two levels of places you don't expect it to be. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:13:02
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     Just try for the weekend and see if it lasts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:05
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     I'm going to try again. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:06
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     ► 
     We can report back. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:07
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     ► 
     So Federico, you guys have these, this trio of stories. Some point in the fall, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:12
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     ► 
     you're going to have a set of reviews for reviews of these OSS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:16
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     ► 
     What's the relationship between like these public beta impression stories, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:21
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     which you have only been doing for a couple of years with the full review. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:25
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     ► 
     Like, does this make the review process easier? Does it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:29
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     do you feel like you're locked into something you said earlier? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:32
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     Like what's the relationship there? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:34
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     ► 
     No, that's a good question. I think it's a way for me to start setting some themes, some concepts, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:42
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     ► 
     and it actually makes the review easier, because then you have something that you already said, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:48
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     ► 
     so you already have a discussion that's already been framed in a certain way. You can say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:56
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     like, for example, "In July, I thought such and such, but turns out that I still agree with that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:03
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     ► 
     or that things have changed. Like you've already established a narrative and that makes it easier 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:09
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     ► 
     when you're starting a huge project. Like you're not starting completely blank, there's already 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:14
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     ► 
     something that you've already said, so you can start from that. And that makes it easier, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:19
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     ► 
     at least for me. And also, technically speaking, it makes it easier because, and I've been doing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:26
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     ► 
     this for, like you said, for a few years now, some of the things and like some of the sections 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:33
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     ► 
     will actually be reused in the review. This is something that I've done before. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:37
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     ► 
     We had this conversation a few years ago, like, what's the point of rewriting the same thing over 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:45
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     ► 
     and over if you've actually already written the thing? So some sections will serve as sort of like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:51
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     ► 
     the basic structure of a chapter of the review, for example, so I know that I can reuse, if not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:00
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     ► 
     just the actual, like, the whole block of text, but if anything, like, the order of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:08
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     ► 
     things, the structure of things. Like, when I'm talking about Stage Manager, first I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:12
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     ► 
     explaining what it is, and then I've explained what it does in this and this way. Like, that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:17
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     ► 
     also helps the making of the review, which I haven't started yet, so it was fun to... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:25
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     ► 
     But I've seen, for example, like, that story that I've done for the public beta, I was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:29
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     ► 
     able to get it done in two days, and that's 8,000 words that I've written and edited in two days. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:36
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     ► 
     So I think over time what I'm realizing about me is that I work better under very intense pressure 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:45
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     ► 
     and super close deadlines, and that story went really well and people really liked it. So 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:51
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     ► 
     that's something that's different about me in 2022, I guess, than when I started Mac Stories. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:58
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     ► 
     I used to hate deadlines and it took me like weeks and weeks to finish like even an app review 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:04
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     ► 
     But I'm not like that anymore. I prefer having the looming deadline, you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:09
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     ► 
     Over me. So yeah, that's something I learned I guess 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:14
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     ► 
     Federico's gonna start the iOS review on September 1st 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:18
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     ► 
     That's when he's gonna open up Obsidian for the first time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:21
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     ► 
     Well, you joke about it. Well, it may not be September 1st, but it's definitely gonna be August 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:27
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     ► 
     So we'll see, we'll see. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to Sourcegraph for their support of the show. We were talking a little bit about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:30
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     public betas and I wanted to dive in a little bit more to iOS 16. You know this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:36
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     ► 
     is one of those years where I feel like the iPad is sort of taking a lot of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:41
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     ► 
     spotlight obviously with Stage Manager but there are a lot of cool things in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:46
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     ► 
     iOS 16. We've talked a lot about the lock screen but I'd like to go a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:50
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     ► 
     a little bit past that and talk about some of the other things we're enjoying. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:55
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     ► 
     I wanted to talk about the search screen. So there's a couple of things going on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:01
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     ► 
     with the search screen that I enjoy this year. As well as it still being 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:05
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     ► 
     accessible via the pull down, there is also that button where they used to just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:10
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     ► 
     be the little dots. There's now a search button. I like that they've put something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:14
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     ► 
     in that space because it's been wasted space on the iPhone for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:19
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     ► 
     years so if they're not gonna make it so you can put another row of app icons 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:23
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     ► 
     which is what I would prefer then then you may as well put something there so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:28
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     ► 
     and I've actually been finding myself hitting the search button on the home 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:32
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     ► 
     screen as well as doing my kind of like instinctual pull down it's just fun to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:37
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     ► 
     have but I like a few things about this screen I like it feels nice and fast 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:44
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     ► 
     which is good and it has some like genuinely good contextual stuff so right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:48
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     ► 
     Right now on my search screen it says connected started at 5.30 and it has a button that says 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:54
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     ► 
     join connected and it says it will take me out to zoom. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:57
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     ► 
     It knows it's a zoom call and it also says turn on do not disturb which I realise now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:02
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     ► 
     I had not turned on do not disturb so the phone is good for me right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:05
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     ► 
     It's giving me information I want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:08
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     ► 
     It's showing me some like it had in the past has shown me recent conversions and stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:12
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     ► 
     like that that I've got going on in there so I can convert some stuff and I had something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:17
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     ► 
     pop up recently which I have my AirPods in and it said "usually at this time" and it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:23
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     ► 
     was to resume in overcast. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:25
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     ► 
     I feel like this is some stuff that's existed before but they have way nicer compressed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:31
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     ► 
     it and I think are showing it to me in a way where I am for once which I feel like is quite 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:37
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     ► 
     rare thinking "oh this computer is quite smart, it does know what I want and it is giving 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:42
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     ► 
     what I should be doing in these moments. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:44
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     ► 
     So I'm appreciating it for that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:46
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     ► 
     - Yeah, I'm really liking the new Spotlight as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:50
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     ► 
     Like the faster access on the home screen is really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:54
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     ► 
     They've also fixed both on the iPhone and the iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:57
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     ► 
     the problem of running shortcuts from Spotlight. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:00
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     ► 
     At least I think they fixed it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:03
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     ► 
     So it used to be that either Spotlight was super slow 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:07
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     ► 
     in finding your shortcuts, or it couldn't find them at all. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:11
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     ► 
     Like, sometimes, actually so many times, it happened to me in iOS and iPadOS 15, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:16
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     ► 
     that I typed the exact name of a shortcut in my library, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:21
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     ► 
     and Spotlight just couldn't find it, like, at all. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:25
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     ► 
     Now, it finds the thing I'm looking for. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:29
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     ► 
     I think they're doing something to rank those shortcuts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:33
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     ► 
     based on how many times you run a specific one, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:37
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     ► 
     if there's multiple matches for your search, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:39
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     but I'm not 100% sure on this one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But still, what's nice about this is the combination of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     reliably and quickly finding your shortcuts, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but also when you run those shortcuts, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're so much faster than before. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, I love that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I love how fast that is now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Shortcuts are so much faster, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but when you combine that with Spotlight, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and especially on iPad or on the iPhone, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as you mentioned from the home screen, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you just swipe down, type, run, done, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you're like, you're out of it in four seconds? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's so well done. It's very nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I'm really liking that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I do have a weird thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, it's all this strange stuff in betas. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     For the last week on my screen here, it just says "Slate Gray". 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:23
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     Did you search for "Slate Gray" at some point? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No. I'm sending you both a screenshot. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     It's there right now. This screenshot I took a couple of days ago is still there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "Slate Gray". 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just says slate gray and then underneath says slate gray and it has a little box 
     
     
  
 
 
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     next to it that I guess is slate gray but I tap it and I can't do anything 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's weird I'm sorry really strange it is strange I searched for the ecobee app 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a few nights ago on mine and it is like stuck as the only suggestion in this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     screen it's like every time I pull it down it wants me to open the ecobee app 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very excited about being in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Slate gray. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Slate gray. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Slate gray. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Overall, I like this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think you're right, Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They have tried this over the years. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, there's been some weird ideas around this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, do you guys remember probably iOS 8 or 9 or 10, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sometime in there, they would put app icons, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like where the flashlight is, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the iPhone 10 class of phones. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's like you would go into Starbucks 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and like the Starbucks icon would just appear 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on your lock screen in the bottom corner. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and lots of weird ideas around surfacing things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in different areas of the OS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I really think this is the best place for those things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think this is some of the best stuff they've done 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where, you know, Myke, you brought up the example 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of like join the connected call, go and do not disturb. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:49
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     I've had very similar things suggested to me 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that exactly what I wanted to do, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     exactly when I wanted to do them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:56
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     And I don't ever really remember being impressed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:58
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     with this stuff from Apple in the past, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:00
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     but it really feels like whatever they've done this year 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:02
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     to improve this stuff, I feel like it's gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:05
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     way, way smarter and way better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:08
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     - Yeah, I'm very happy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:10
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     - It's still hit or miss for me for some things, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:12
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     like a good example that I saved 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:14
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     because I wanted to remember this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:17
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     So on the new lock screen, the system suggests, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:20
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     rightfully so, a lot of photos featuring Sylvia, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:25
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     Because the system guesses that, you know, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:27
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     This person is in thousands of photos over the years, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:31
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     and you're always together, so I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:33
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     going to assume that you want to see this person 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:35
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     in your wallpaper suggestions. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:24:38
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     But how can the same system that makes that suggestion, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:43
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     therefore sort of infers maybe that this person also 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:47
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     associated with this contact, you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:49
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     talk to this person on iMessage, and you live together. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:53
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     How can the same system also suggest-- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:56
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     and I saw this a few days ago, for Sylvia's birthday, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:00
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     that I make a phone call to her to wish her happy birthday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:05
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     - Yes, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:06
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     - Like, why? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:25:08
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     You make really clever suggestions on one side, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:12
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     and then like, what, you think this is like my grandma 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:15
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     or something, that I'm gonna make a phone call to her? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:18
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     Like, "Hey, I saw that it's your birthday, happy birthday." 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:25:23
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     That doesn't make any sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:25
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     And the suggestion said, "As found in your contacts, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:29
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     "call Sylvia to wish her happy birthday." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:32
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     - Which is a good feature, I guess, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:36
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     To surface that stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:37
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     But then also, like, understand me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:40
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     Do I ever make phone calls, iPhone? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:42
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     You're the phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:43
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     Do I ever use the phone app? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:44
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     No, no, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:46
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     Like, maybe send an iMessage to Sylvia 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:49
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     and wish her happy birthday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:51
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     You know, we could try that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:53
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     But no, yeah, I know what you mean. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:54
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     Some of that stuff is like... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:56
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     The problem with all of these things is when the device is always trying to seem like it's so smart 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:02
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     and then it gets things so wrong, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:05
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     Like, I always find that to be such a funny thing and it makes it more glaring when it does get wrong. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:10
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     But anyway, slight gray. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:12
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     Something I like, the new medication tracking in the Health app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:18
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     This is something that has allowed me to stop using for tracking medications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:23
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     the Dew app, because it's so much nicer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:27
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     You can set it up in Health. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:29
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     There's also a standalone watch app for medications. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:33
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     But what is cool is that you can basically search on the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:39
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     You go into the medications section of the Health 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:42
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     app on your iPhone, and you search 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:45
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     for a specific medication. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:47
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     You can search now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:49
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     OK, this is necessary context. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:51
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     I'm using my iPhone with the US region, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:54
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     so I'm assuming that the results I got 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:57
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     for medications I never heard of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:00
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     were based on the region in my settings, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:03
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     but I just searched for a regular like vitamins 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:06
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     and I got the generic result. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:08
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     But I think based on Alex's overview on Mac stories, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:12
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     I think the idea is that by searching 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:14
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     for the specific medication by brand, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:17
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     you can make sure that there are no weird interactions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:22
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     between the medications you're taking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:24
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     and for example, things like alcohol intake, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:27
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     also tracting health. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:29
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     Like I think that's the idea, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:32
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     but yeah, it wasn't finding Italian medications for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:35
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     What I like is, so the watch app, which I mentioned, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:38
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     you can log medications and stake in on the watch, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:42
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     but there's also the notifications on your iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:45
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     And, you know, those are rich notifications with a little preview and the actionable buttons 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:51
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     like "log is taken". 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:53
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     You get the little icons and stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:56
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     And you get the little icons and you can choose the little shapes and colors of the medications. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 00:28:04
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     ► 
     There's some medication shapes in here that I didn't know existed. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:06
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     Like here's a heart with a line in the middle. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:10
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     As medication if you have a heartbreak. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:13
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     - Yeah, it is a really nice feature. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:16
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     You can customize a bunch of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:17
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     ► 
     You can export a PDF out of health 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:21
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     ► 
     with your current medications and it has your name 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:23
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     and date of birth and stuff at the top. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:25
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     You know, a lot of times as you go visit a doctor, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:27
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     you've got to provide this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:29
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     I would like a little more control over the reminder of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:34
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     So if you get a notification, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:37
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     then you can log the medication as taken or skipped, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:41
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     ► 
     and then it records the time of that into health. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:44
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     So if I go back yesterday, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:45
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     I can see exactly what time I took medication. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:48
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     The only way to snooze it though, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:50
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     is to say, remind me in 10 minutes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:52
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     And I like a lot of other people, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:54
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     including you Federico, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:56
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     am coming from Do, D-U-E, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:58
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     which is this reminders app that its whole thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:00
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     is reminding you constantly until you do something. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:03
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     And so I had my medications in there and I said, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:06
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     hey, if I don't respond to this notification, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:09
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     send me another one in 15 minutes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:10
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     And I would like a little more insistence from the medications app until I interact 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:29:18
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     I mean, I have them set as the time sensitive notifications, but I would like even more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:24
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     presence because I have a bunch of other notifications, the medication will kind of get lost. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:28
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     I would like something a little more in my face about reminding me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:33
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     But all in all, I think the features great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:36
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     I love the way you can customize how they look. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:39
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     and you can set the background color 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:40
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     ► 
     so you can very quickly at a glance see what's going on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:43
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     ► 
     And then in watchOS 9, it is its own application, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:47
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     which is something we've seen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:49
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     between iOS and watchOS in the past 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:51
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     where a sort of big iOS app may get broken down 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:54
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     into several smaller watchOS apps. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:58
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     Like if you look on your watch, there's like find items, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:00
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     find people, find devices. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:03
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     Like it's kind of funny they broke Find My into three, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:05
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     ► 
     but I think it makes a lot of sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:07
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     And I don't know, you know, what all went into this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:12
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     ► 
     to get it over the finish line, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:14
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     ► 
     but I'm really glad it's here 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:15
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     'cause it was a big oversight in the health app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:18
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     It seemed like such an obvious thing they should have added. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:20
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     And I think all in all, they did a pretty good job of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:24
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     - It's interesting 'cause I don't have the ability 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:28
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     to search for medication. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:31
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     ► 
     I have to just manually enter all the information in. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:34
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     There's no searching for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:36
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     ► 
     I guess they have this as a US only. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:38
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     ► 
     Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:39
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     ► 
     So I can add all the information in manually, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:42
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     ► 
     but I have to add it all in myself. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:45
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     ► 
     So I'm not going to get those, like these medicines clash 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:49
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     ► 
     or anything like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:50
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     ► 
     And also it's just like, everything's manual. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:52
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     ► 
     I have to add in the, like the strength of the medication 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:54
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     ► 
     all that kind of stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:55
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     ► 
     Make sure you don't accidentally add the US medications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:58
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     ► 
     otherwise they're going to charge you. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:31:03
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     ► 
     - Microtransactions in health for American users. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:07
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     ► 
     - Sign you up for a subscription plan to your pills. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:31:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     - They are honestly, how far are Apple away from doing that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:14
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     ► 
     You know what I'm saying? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:31:16
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     ► 
     - How far away are they from doing that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:17
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     ► 
     - As soon as I said, I was like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:18
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     ► 
     oh, I just made a really funny joke, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but then reality hit me and I realized, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:22
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     I can actually sort of see that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah, anyway. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I wanna talk about the now playing screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     They have the new full screen now playing, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is what I'm talking about. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So on the lock screen, now when you're playing audio, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it takes over your entire lock screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The artwork is full and large. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It slides under the clock, of course, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and changes the color of the backgrounds. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I actually really like this feature. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I expect it's going to be pretty divisive, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I think Apple knew that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very easy to get rid of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     In case you don't know, by the way, if you just tap the artwork when you're on the lock 
     
     
  
 
 
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     screen, it shrinks and then you can tap it and it's in the little live activity and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will come back and fill up the lock screen again. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that's kind of cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:13
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     I think that it does, what I like about it most is how good a job it's doing of showing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     content from Overcursed for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:21
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     So I'm getting the artwork, I get chapter artwork. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So if there's a chapter that I'm listening to, has specific artwork, that changes and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:28
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     And so I see the chapter artwork large, which is great because it's bigger than anywhere 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:32
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     else you would see it really, which is kind of fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:36
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     And also it shows chapter names in the live activity. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:39
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     So I think all of that is like really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know what they're doing or like how it's being displayed to the system that it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     working so well with third party apps that I don't think have done anything to like be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:50
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     specific about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Um, so yeah, I just thought it was really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just liked the design too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:55
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     I just think it looks really, really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:58
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     And they they get rid of your lock screen wallpaper and they replace it with like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:01
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     smeary color thing based on the color of the artwork. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:05
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     So if I'm listening to app stories, it's like blue and purple. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:08
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     But if I'm listening to you know, the pen act, it's like warmer colors to match that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:13
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     it is it is really nicely done. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:15
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     I tend to be using it small and not like the full screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:20
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     But it is nice that it's just a tap away. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:22
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     I mean, when you use mic you shared a screenshot of this a few days ago saying how much you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:27
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     liked this and I was like wait how do you do that I was like digging through 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:29
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     settings and you like no no just tap the artwork and it goes in between that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:34
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     uh that's pretty sweet mm-hmm I like it I think it's I think it's really good I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:39
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     think why not just do something with it but yeah I also just in general like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:42
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     just seeing that and the clock live activity I'm getting like pretty excited 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:46
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     for that like whenever that will come you know you get like delivery stuff and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:49
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     all those kinds of things like I don't want six notifications for one thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:53
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     anymore so I'm excited about that. Have y'all come across the new timer UI on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:59
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     lock screen? Yes. The live activity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's pretty sweet. I like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:05
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     that it's orange which is fun. In an earlier beta there was this really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:08
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     dramatic transition every time a second counted down on the timer. Oh did I get rid of that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:14
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     Yes. It was good because... It's much calmer now. It was like the numbers would kind of get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:20
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     all blurry as it went from one to the other. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:22
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     It was weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:23
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     But the issue was the animation was getting cut 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:26
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     into a square, even though it wasn't a square shape. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:34:29
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     So like it would transition and it would like try 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:32
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     and like make this like poof kind of thing around it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:34
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     But then it would like hit this wall 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:36
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     and the animation would end. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:37
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     It was weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:38
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     So it looked terrible. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:34:40
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     It was very funny. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:41
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     It's way, way better now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:43
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     All in all, I think this new style, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:46
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     this new live activity style, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:48
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     seeing what Apple's done with it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:49
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     I'm with you, Myke, definitely makes me excited about what this is going to be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:53
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     like once third parties can do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:55
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     And that's not at launch that Apple said that's coming in a later version of Iowa 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:59
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     16. So that's not going to be, you know, in Federico's initial review probably, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:04
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     but when it shows up, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:05
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     I think it's going to only do more to make the lock screen not only more useful, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:10
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     but like more tidy as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:12
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     One thing I had to miss until I heard Federico heard you talk about on app 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:16
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     stories is that you can condense your notifications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:20
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     to basically a bulleted list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:22
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     Can you explain this? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:23
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     - Yeah, so that's the new compact mode for notifications. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:28
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     So by default notifications now sort of rolling 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:32
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     from the bottom of the display, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:34
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     they don't just come up in the middle of the lock screen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:36
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     and that's because they wanna free up some space 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:38
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     for you to see widgets on your wallpaper, makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:41
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     But also, if you want, you can minimize the notifications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:46
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     at the bottom, and you can do that by swiping them down 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:50
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     on the lock screen, and they become like this little badge 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:55
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     at the bottom, basically that right now, for example, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:57
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     for me, it says two notifications. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:59
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     And you can tap that, and it'll show you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:02
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     your notifications again. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:03
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     And if you don't wanna see them again, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:05
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     you just swipe them down and they minimize. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:08
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     I believe there's also a setting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:10
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     There's a setting to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:13
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     So if you go into Notifications, Display As, Count. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:19
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     It's called a Count Mode. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:21
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     So you have Count, Stack, and List 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:24
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     as the new three display settings for notifications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:28
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     by default. And it says, pinch the notifications list 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:32
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     on the lock screen to change layouts in context. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:35
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     So you can also pinch, I suppose. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:37
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     Yeah, and it works. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:38
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     It's kind of weird to do on your iPhone with two hands, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:42
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     but you can also pinch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:43
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     My theory is that this count mode 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:47
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     will be the default for the always-on lock screen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:52
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     on the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:53
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     My theory is that on the iPhone 14 Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:57
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     with the always-on lock screen, you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:59
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     will see the time, your widgets, and the count 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:03
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     for the notifications. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:04
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     Because that's just the bare minimum amount of stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:08
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     you can probably see in always-on lock screen mode. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:12
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     I'm going to try this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:13
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     But when you pull up, they just show up as normal, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:16
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     In Notification Center? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 00:37:19
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     When you pull up, Notification Center is unchanged, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:22
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     still looks the same. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:23
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     ► 
     This is just for new notifications, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:26
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     ► 
     And there's also the distinction that needs to be made 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:28
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     between regular new notifications 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:33
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     and what are they called, persistent notifications, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:37
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     those that won't go away, like reminders, for example, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:40
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     ► 
     if you're set to have persistent banners, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:43
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     those will not go away, they will stay pinned 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:46
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     on the lock screen, just like the medication reminders. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:50
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     They are persistent notifications, so they stare 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:52
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     sort of there, anchored at the bottom of the screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:57
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     But yeah, you have three new modes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:00
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     And I like the count one, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:01
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     because then I just see the wallpaper. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:05
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     count notifications. It's like Count Dracula. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:38:09
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     - He like sneaks in and he's like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:10
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     ► 
     you have two notifications, like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:14
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     ► 
     That's count notification. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:38:17
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     - Your mom is trying to read you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:19
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     ► 
     - Have you ever seen the joke in the shortcuts app 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:23
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     ► 
     for the count action? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:38:26
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     - I don't think so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:27
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     - Open shortcuts, create a new shortcut 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:31
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     and search for the action called count. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:34
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     Okay, shortcuts, new shortcut, search count. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:39
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     ► 
     - Check out the description for that action. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:41
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     ► 
     - This is just like the count in "Sesame Street," 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:43
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     but instead of a vampire, it's a shortcuts action. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:47
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     That's cute. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:48
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     That's good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:49
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     ► 
     That's cute. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:50
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     - It's a nice Easter egg. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:53
     ◼
      
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     - This episode of Connected is made possible by Bombas. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:57
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     ► 
     Bombas' mission is really simple. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:59
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     They wanna make the most comfortable clothes ever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:02
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     and match every item sold with an equal item donated. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:06
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     So when you buy Bombas, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:07
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     you're also giving to someone in need. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:11
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     Bombas designs everything they make, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:13
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     ► 
     socks, shirts, underwear, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:15
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     ► 
     all to be the clothes you can't wait to put on every day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:18
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     ► 
     Everything they make is soft, seamless, tagless, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:22
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     and has a cozy feel. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:24
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     ► 
     There's a pair of Bombas socks for everything you do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:26
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     They come in tons of options, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:28
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     like comfy performance styles made with sweat-wicking yarns, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:31
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     which mean your feet stay cool 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:33
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     while the rest of you works up a sweat. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:35
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     ► 
     And their no-show socks are designed for comfort 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:37
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     while being specifically engineered to never fall down. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:41
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     So let your ankles be free to soak up that sunlight. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:44
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     ► 
     Bombas T-shirts are made with thoughtful design features 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:47
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     like invisible seams, soft fabrics, and the perfect weight 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:50
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     so they hang just right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:52
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     Bombas underwear is breathable, fits well, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:54
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     ► 
     and has a barely-there feel 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:55
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     ► 
     that might make you forget they're even there, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:57
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     ► 
     but in a good way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:59
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     This is really cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:00
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     ► 
     You talked about how Bombas wants to help those in need. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:03
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     ► 
     Socks, underwear, and t-shirts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:05
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     ► 
     are the three most requested clothing items 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:07
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     ► 
     at homeless shelters. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:08
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     ► 
     So Bombas donates one for every item you buy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:11
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     ► 
     And so far, Bombas customers like me and you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:14
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     ► 
     have helped donate over 50 million items 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:16
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     ► 
     of essential clothing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     That is awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     You can learn more and get a 20% discount 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     off your first purchase at bombas.com/connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     That's B-O-M-B-A-S dot com slash connected for 20% off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Bombas.com/connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Our thanks to Bombas for the comfy socks, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     their support of the show, and all of Relay FM. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     - So as we're recording this, tomorrow, the MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the M2 MacBook Air, goes on sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Be available for people, some people who preordered, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     five people who preordered. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     We'll get them tomorrow. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     It's like a golden ticket kind of situation. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Tim Cook brings it directly to your house. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Federico will notice, like with the Gabe Newell deliveries 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:02
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     with the Steam Deck, that's what's gonna happen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for all MacBook Air deliveries tomorrow. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:06
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     Steven, do you know what I'm talking about? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:41:11
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     - So do you know who Gabe Newell is? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:41:14
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     - So he kind of created, well, he's like the head of Valve 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and Steam and stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I walked past him once in a hallway. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:19
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     We spoke about that once. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:21
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     So imagine he's like, well, you don't have to imagine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:24
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     He's like the CEO of Valve and Steam. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know what that is, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:28
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     - Yes, of course, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:30
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     - There was a selection of Steam Deck orders 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:31
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     that he delivered personally in a truck 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:34
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     and they made a video about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:36
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     And what's great about the video is most of the people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     did not know who he was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:40
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     - That's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:41
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     - And it was just very funny. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:42
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     It was very funny. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:43
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     So that's gonna happen with all the MacBook Air, all this. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:41:49
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     - Wait, who at Apple is gonna deliver them 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:50
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     that people don't know? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:41:53
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     - But people know Tim Cook. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:54
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     - Maybe not everyone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:55
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     - It's Jeff Williams. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:57
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     - Yes, Jeff Williams or John Turness. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:42:02
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     I'd accept a delivery from John Turness. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:04
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     - Hey, you would. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:05
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     Anyway, the design, people like the design, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:11
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     reviews are out now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:12
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     People like the design, obviously. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:14
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     And I, seeing it now in video, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:17
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     watched a couple of videos today, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:19
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     I'm very excited to see one of these computers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:22
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     They look so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:23
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     it looks so, so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Being just like no more wedge anything anymore, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:27
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     just like a really thin MacBook Pro, I like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:32
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     - Yeah, the machines are definitely cut 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:33
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     from the same cloth. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:35
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     Evans Hankey and some others did this interview 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:37
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     with GQ in the UK about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:40
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     And there's not a lot of great new information in that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:43
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     but they talk about how they developed these machines 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:45
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     at the same time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:47
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     And if you watch the videos, I've watched a bunch of them, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:51
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     but I don't think any of them really capture 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:53
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     like how much it in person looks and feels 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:56
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     like a squished down MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:00
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     Oh, here he goes again Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:03
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     He's like, oh, I've seen it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:05
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     I've touched it, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:07
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     Here he goes. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:43:09
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     Thanks Steven, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:10
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     I've forgotten about that for a little while. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:12
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     There was this really cool hands-on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:13
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     at the Steve Jobs Theater 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:14
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     that a bunch of us got to go to. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:15
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     Oh, was there? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:16
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     Oh yeah, where was I? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:17
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     Thank you for reminding us. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:18
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     Yeah, you were-- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:19
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     Where was I? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:19
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     watching TV or something. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:21
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     I must have gotten lost that day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:23
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     There's a couple of quotes that I like from that interview 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:26
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     that Evan Tanki gave. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:27
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     Evan Tanki is like, they are in charge of industrial design. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:31
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     They're one of the two people that took over 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:34
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     Johnny Ives' role when Johnny-- who is now completely gone 100% 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:39
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     see you later. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:40
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     They canceled the thing we've loved from, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:42
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     which probably never existed, really. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:44
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     Anyway, Evan Tanki says, we don't really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:46
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     have to play any kind of games of shape or form to make it look thin and I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:51
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     that's one of the most lovely and remarkable things it's quite honest and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:55
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     ► 
     simple I appreciate that like this that's talking about the wedge right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:58
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     like the old wedge used to make the MacBook Air look thinner than it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:02
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     ► 
     because it was super thin on one side it's like teardrop design kind of thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:05
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     I don't have to do that anymore they could just make a thin laptop and then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:09
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     speaking to what Stephen just said I think he says it was the first time we 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:13
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     ever set out to do a family of products together." Now that seems like a statement that I can't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:18
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     believe. I mean, she said it, so it must be true, but like that seems... Oh no, we have two computer 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:24
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     ► 
     lines! When did this happen? That seems really weird, right? But I guess maybe they don't always 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:29
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     redesign them at the same time? Like I think that might be the difference, right? I think so. That 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:34
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     ► 
     you can borrow from other designs, which they always do. It's like they make a product and then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:40
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     ► 
     other products borrowed from that design but I guess they sat down and they were like all right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:43
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     ► 
     we're redoing the laptops and they did all three of them at once because it really does look the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:49
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     ► 
     same but there are differences which are interesting to me so there is no macbook air branding anywhere 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:55
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     ► 
     on the macbook air yeah not even on the bottom where the macbook pro it's uh debossed into the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:02
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     ► 
     aluminum maybe it was a some sort of issue they couldn't do that on the bottom case i think they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:07
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     this one to make something super clean and I am glad the branding has gone from underneath 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:14
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     ► 
     the display that's come and gone over the years with different machines and different 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:19
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     ► 
     designs but I'm glad that it's just super clean and minimal and I mean the Apple logo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:25
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     ► 
     is bigger on the back and there's a funny shot and some of the reviews comparing like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:29
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     ► 
     old MacBook Airs and the new one the Apple logo is just so dominant on the back but other 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:34
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     ► 
     Other than that, it's basically nothing saying that it's a Mac other than, oh, it looks like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:40
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     ► 
     all the others. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:42
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     ► 
     So the design looks, it looks really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:45
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     I've seen people talking about the fingerprints that get all over the midnight one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:51
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     ► 
     Seems like it gets very fingerprinty. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:53
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     ► 
     That was definitely true in the hands on, like Apple people were like wiping them down 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:59
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     ► 
     in between people touching them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:01
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     ► 
     And I'm sure a lot of that will had to do with COVID even then the midnight one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:05
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     was just fingerprinty and I was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:09
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     I was a little surprised by that because the the space gray doesn't really do that that badly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:15
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     But there's something different I guess about the midnight the color or the finish something about it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:20
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     ► 
     It really shows them. So I think I think the midnight looks really cool and if you look in the videos 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:25
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     ► 
     I mean the folks doing these initial reviews 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:28
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     I mean, they all have great lighting and everything, so you can really see what it looks like. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:32
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     It is pretty, but that's going to be the trade-off, and for me, it's not a trade-off I would want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:40
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     I don't like the color so much that I'd be willing to put up with the fingerprints. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:43
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     I don't know, but it's pretty. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:46
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     I would still go midnight. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:47
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     I would still go midnight. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:48
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     Yeah, me too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:49
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     It's so pretty. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:50
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     It looks nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:51
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     The other ones, I've seen these colors before, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:54
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     ► 
     I'm bored of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:55
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     ► 
     Give me the blue one. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:46:57
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     ► 
     Life's too short to care about fingerprints, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:47:00
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     ► 
     Give me the pretty computer, yes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:01
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     ► 
     What am I worried the FBI is gonna come after me, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:04
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     ► 
     'Cause I can get my fingerprints off the laptop? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:05
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     ► 
     Like what's the problem, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:47:09
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     ► 
     The other thing I didn't realize physically 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:12
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     ► 
     about this machine, I didn't even like pick up on it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:15
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     ► 
     again in the very exclusive and cool hands-on we had. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:18
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     ► 
     How many more times are you gonna mention it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:20
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     ► 
     This is three times now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:21
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     ► 
     This is so unnecessary. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:23
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     ► 
     Three times you've said it now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:26
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     ► 
     There's no speaker grill on this machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:29
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     ► 
     So on the previous Air, they were super skinny, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:33
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     ► 
     you know, down the sides of the keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:35
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     ► 
     And even on the 14 and 16, that's where they are. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:37
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     ► 
     Now here's the secret, dear listener. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:39
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     ► 
     That's not where the speakers actually are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:42
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     ► 
     in the laptops for the most part. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:43
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     ► 
     Like on the MacBook Pros, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:44
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     ► 
     they're basically at the very bottom of that grill. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:46
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     ► 
     But they make the grill big to make it look nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:49
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     ► 
     This MacBook Air, the speakers are, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:51
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     ► 
     where they are on the chassis, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:53
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     ► 
     are sort of where the exhaust vent is, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:56
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     ► 
     like in the inside of the hinge. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:00
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     ► 
     So when you open the machine, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:01
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     ► 
     if you look down in there, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:02
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     ► 
     there's openings to let air and heat out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:05
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     ► 
     The speakers are in there somewhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:07
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     ► 
     And so the sound sort of just comes out of the laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:11
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     ► 
     And in the Verge video, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:14
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     they have the M1 MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:17
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     ► 
     the M2 MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:18
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     ► 
     and then the 14 inch MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:20
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     ► 
     and the new Air is right in between the other two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:23
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     ► 
     in terms of sound quality. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:24
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     ► 
     It's not as good as the MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:27
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     ► 
     Like just as an aside, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:29
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     ► 
     the MacBook Pro speakers are so good for a laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:48:33
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     ► 
     - It's silly how good they are. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:35
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     ► 
     The M2 Air isn't quite as good as that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:38
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     ► 
     but if you're coming from an Intel MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:41
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     ► 
     they're gonna be substantially better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:44
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     ► 
     And again, it's something that cleans up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:46
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     ► 
     the look of the machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:47
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     ► 
     And I think actually makes the machine look 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:50
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     ► 
     a little bit more modern 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:54
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     ► 
     without all the laser burned holes and the aluminum. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:58
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     ► 
     It's just clean and sleek, but yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:02
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     ► 
     not as good as a MacBook Pro speaker wise, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:04
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     ► 
     but I think for what people do with a MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:06
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     ► 
     it's gonna be more than good enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:09
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     ► 
     - I think with the MacBook Pros, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:11
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     ► 
     it does help balance out the design a little bit 'cause-- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:14
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     ► 
     - Especially the 16, you gotta have them on the big one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:17
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     ► 
     Because it'd be those just wasted weird space down the sides. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:21
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     ► 
     But yeah, if that, where would they, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:22
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     ► 
     there's nowhere to even put them on this MacBook Air. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:24
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     ► 
     Like what you put them like next to the track pad, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:27
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     ► 
     that'd be so weird to have the holes there, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:30
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     ► 
     So like, I kind of like, I like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:32
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     ► 
     I just think again, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:32
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     ► 
     it keeps the kind of aesthetic of this design going, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     which is just this like very clean, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     very futuristic looking laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Steven, I want to get your kind of feelings 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:43
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     ► 
     on the M2 discussion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Like there's a lot of talk about like thermal throttling compared to the MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:49:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And like how warm the machine can get and just like general performance conversation. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Yeah, so as we know from the M1 generation of machines, that MacBook Air and that MacBook Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     basically operate the same way until you get to really heavy sustained workloads. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and then the single fan that turns inside the MacBook Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     gives it just a little bit of an edge 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     when it comes to those longer sustained workloads. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So in the real world, that means exporting a video 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     from Final Cut or Premiere, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     maybe doing a big build in Xcode, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:30
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     bouncing a project out of logic, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Where this gets complicated is that the difference 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sustained workloads, the difference is a little bit greater 
     
     
  
 
 
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     between the Air and the Pro where people have seen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the M2 MacBook Pro, the 13 inch, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they have seen that thermal throttle and get pretty warm. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And that's happening a little bit more quickly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the M2 Air. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     In my estimation, this is not a big deal at all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a couple of reasons. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The biggest is that we have to remember 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the trade-offs for this machine were made 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with the customer for this machine in mind, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So this MacBook Air, while you can certainly buy it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and certainly run a YouTube career off of it, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't think that's what Apple has in mind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for this product. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you are going to do big development projects, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you can totally do it on this machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's just that the 14 and 16 are better suited 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with the trade-offs they make to be thicker and heavier 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with much better cooling. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you've gotta kinda pick what trade-offs work for you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and your workload. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And for the vast majority of people who buy a MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if they ever run into this, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's going to be extremely infrequently. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you're buying this for knowledge workers, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if you're buying it for students, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're buying it for home use, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even if you're buying it for like what I use my laptop for, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is basically just going around on the web, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doing admin stuff for our company 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and very occasionally editing a podcast, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't think I would ever hit it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it just, it means when you watch these reviews 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you see like, okay, we ran Cinebench for 30 minutes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes, the MacBook Air is going to be slower 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in those tests than the Pro because of the cooling. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's important to know that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but for most people, most of the time, it doesn't matter. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so I don't think it's a big deal 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that this machine throttles before the Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm not surprised by it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm not surprised that it's a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     bigger of a difference than the M1. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is a more powerful chip with more cores, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I don't think at the end of the day, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't think you should make a buying decision 
     
     
  
 
 
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     based on this, unless you're in the situation 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where the Air is all you can afford. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Then like you just need to know that, yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you are making this trade off 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at the very edge of performance. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But like I said, for most people, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     most of the time, not a big deal. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Apple did confirm to The Verge that this has, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would say an issue that the M2 MacBook Pro has, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The base models of both the Air and the Pro only has one storage chip on it, like one NAND flash chip on it for the SSD. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the storage performance, like the read and write, is slower than the M1 base models. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is only on the base models, and I assume that this is a supply chain thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But this came out as a thing that the M2 MacBook Pro had and then I expect that the verge asked Apple because in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Dan C if it's review he mentioned that Apple confirmed to them that was the same 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it is a bit this is a I think that is one thing that I think people would feel more 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I expect right if the the read/write speeds are slower on the SSD 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Then they were even on the m1 models as a frustration 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But basically I guess it's if you can make any upgrade on this machine from the base model 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:23
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     I would assume probably the storage will be the best one for you now considering this limitation 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:28
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     the SSD speed thing is a problem and it's a decision that I wish Apple had made had made differently because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And we're talking in terms of like what makes a difference performance wise day to day 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:41
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     disk speed is basically the top of the list and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's that's real bummer to see that the the base 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Model of both these machines those users are gonna get penalized not only for having an SSD 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:54
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     It's probably too small 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:55
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     But for having one where the performance is cut so badly that is that's a bummer and I agree with you Myke 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you're in the market for one of these I would not do that base storage if at all possible 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:07
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     Upgrade it not only so you have more breathing room in terms of space 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:11
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     But so you also don't get stuck with that the slower disk speeds 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:15
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     The problem is that turns a $1,200 computer into a $1,400 computer. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:55:20
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     That's the issue. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:55:22
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     And that is a thing that people are pressing on, I get it, the price, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is more expensive and it's one you can point to especially when the old ones stood around. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I think that if we think about Apple's last attempt at a thin and light $1,200 computer, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which is the MacBook. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:38
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     This is clearly a vastly better machine for the money. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     You know, I was expecting that people were either going to say this is a fantastic laptop 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:48
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     or it's way too expensive and it feels like people were more leaning on the this is a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     great laptop than pushing on the expensive part. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:56
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     Because things are better, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like the camera still isn't great, but it's way better on this one than the previous one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You benefit from things like MagSafe, so you actually have two USB-C ports and a headphone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:07
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     jack, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:08
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     So you've got more ports. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The screen is bigger. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     People are not going to like the notch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:11
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     always not gonna like the notch but like kind of whatever the screen is bigger 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:16
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     and brighter there are and it just looks cool and it's like a lot going on for it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that that that 35 watt power adapter thing people are gonna love that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:27
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     like I know that us as nerds are like well you know it actually isn't as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:31
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     powerful and then if you plug a second thing in you're only getting half the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     power to the laptop I don't think I think like I imagine you give that to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     somebody in your life and like, wow, I could also charge my iPhone at the same 
     
     
  
 
 
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     time. This is awesome. Yeah. Right? Like I just, you know, I just feel like people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are really gonna dig it. So I think this is a great machine all in all. I'm, I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     still want to get my hands on one. I have not ordered one. Steven, you ordered one, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right? I did. Yeah, so we have a silver one coming with the base CPU, GPU, but two 
     
     
  
 
 
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     terabytes of storage and I was gonna do 16 gigabytes of RAM but I ended up doing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     24 because as I explained last week 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is basically like the last piece of the puzzle and like getting the rest of my family onto Apple Silicon and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't want to do anything else with those setups for a long time. So I opted for the 24 just for longevity 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     It comes as early as a week from today. So that's like the the opening of my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Delivery window and it's open through 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like the next week. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:37
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     So hopefully I'll have some impressions here 
     
     
  
 
 
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     before too long. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, beyond my hands-on impressions earlier. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, well. - Right. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - At Apple Park. - Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's time for a quiz. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     That's what I was looking for. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:51
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     I've been thinking to myself, what is the thing? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:54
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     You know, like what will do it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:56
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     And it's that St. Jude Play Live button, the hype button. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:00
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     It's time for a quiz. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:01
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     I enjoyed round one of Do You Know the Passionate Ones so much last week that I want to do another 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:00:08
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     I'll just set the record straight here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:10
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     I'm not doing another one next week because it takes two hours at least to get these quiz 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:15
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     questions together and I can't do it next week. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:17
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     Again, I reckon maybe two more rounds from the initial questions that I asked so they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will come at a future date. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:25
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     As a quick reminder, this is a Family Feud/Family Fortune style rules. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:30
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     I put out a quiz to connected listeners to ask them a series of questions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:35
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     I will be asking Stephen and Federico to guess the top five answers that were collected from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:46
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     the overall responses. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So for example, if I asked like, we did this last time, what was your first iPhone? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And if you said iPhone 3G, that was the top answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:57
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     And Steven got 50 points for that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:59
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     And it carries on from there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:01
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     There will be a selection of rules for each question, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:03
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     which I'll go through again as we go through them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:05
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     I will give-- some people wrote in and said, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:08
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     why did you give 50 points as the top answer? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:12
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     Why not just do five so it's more in line 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:13
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     with the previous scoring? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:15
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     So to people who ask those kinds of questions, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:18
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     who says that it will always be one point per answer? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:01:22
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     There could be questions that give a thousand points in the future, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:25
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     Who knows? Like, I don't know. There's loads of different formats we're doing here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:30
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     And this is just the second format that we tried. So, boys are you ready? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:34
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     Uh, yes. I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:38
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     Alright, so we've got five questions again today, like we did last time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:42
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     The first question today... Actually, I'm going to do the coin flip first, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:48
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     Let's do the coin flip first, so I don't give you additional time to think about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:51
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     it. So we'll do a coin flip to decide who gets to answer first out of the two of you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:58
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     Steven, you're going to be heads. And Steven, I don't know if you could hear that. My volume 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:05
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     was quite quiet, but it was heads. Okay. So the first question for the passionate ones 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:12
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     that they have answered today is what phone do you use today? That was the question. What 
     
     
  
 
 
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     phone do you use today? Now what we're looking for here, I will take model numbers but no color or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:29
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     storage size variations. Okay. What phone do you use today? Stephen you have the first answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:38
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     iPhone 11 Pro. Stephen you get zero points for that answer. Oh um oh boy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:50
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     - Boy, iPhone 13 Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:55
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     - Federica, 40 points goes to you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:58
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     That is the second highest answer on the board. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:03
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     iPhone 13 Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:05
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     We go back to you, Steven, for your second guess there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:10
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     - iPhone 12 Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:13
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     - Will he be get back on the board this time? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:15
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     Yes, he will. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:16
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     That is the third highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:19
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     The iPhone 12 Pro was what you said, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:03:23
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     - Yeah, that is the third highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:25
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     That gets you 30 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:03:28
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     iPhone 13 Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:31
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     - That is the top answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:33
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     T.G.'s playing the game today. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:35
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     Fing's Federico up to 90 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:37
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     Federico's got the top and second answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:41
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     Steven has the third most popular answer 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:44
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     and then also one that had nothing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:46
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     So Stephen, you have the next guest, please. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:50
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     ► 
     - I was gonna say our audience, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:51
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     way newer phones than I thought. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:03:55
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     - I'm gonna say the regular iPhone 13. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:57
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     - That is not on the list, Stephen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:00
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     You have lost out again. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:04
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     The iPhone, just the iPhone 13 did not show up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:07
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     I will go through later on and we can talk about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:10
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     where some of these came for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:12
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     But iPhone 13, not on there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:14
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     - Man, dying. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:15
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     iPhone 12 Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:18
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     - Federico, that is the fourth highest answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:23
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     netting you another 20 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:25
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     - Fifth one is interesting now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:29
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     - Oh, something I forgot to do, by the way, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:31
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     was to give the overall scoring 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:35
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     as we were coming into today. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:04:37
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     - So I'm just gonna calculate that real quick 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:39
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     because I have to remove some things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:42
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     from my incredibly complicated spreadsheet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:44
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     so I can go back to the scores as we started today. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:47
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     So as we come to the beginning of today, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:50
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     Steven is on 312 points 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:54
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     and Federico is on 451 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:04:59
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     - As we start today. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:01
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     - Fifth most popular phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:03
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     Can you give us the top four again? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:06
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     - I most certainly can. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:07
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     They are the iPhone 13 Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:11
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     the iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPhone 12 Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:15
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     and iPhone 12 Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:17
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     - So there's not even like a-- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:18
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     - I found that really interesting, by the way, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:20
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     that they split out like that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:21
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     that it was exactly like Pro, Pro Max, Pro, Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:26
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     - And the 11 Pro was not on the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:28
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     But I'm gonna say the 11 Pro Max is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:33
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     - Yeah, good guess. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:34
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     - The iPhone 11 Pro Max is not in the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:41
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     ► 
     Interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:42
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     ► 
     The SE owners are back to get us. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:44
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     Interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:05:50
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     I do wonder-- It hit me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:52
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     It just hit me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:52
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     The people bought a model thinking it may go away. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:58
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     Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:00
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     I'm gonna go with iPhone 13 mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:02
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     iPhone 13 mini Federico is not on the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:10
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     That was exactly my thought process 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:12
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     and I would have picked it next. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:14
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     Gosh, I mean, what else is there? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:20
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     Trying to think about like recent phones 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:25
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     maybe people liked and wanted to like hold on to. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:28
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     I'm just gonna shoot my shot here, the iPhone XR. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:33
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     ► 
     - iPhone XR? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:36
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     ► 
     - Yeah, it's fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:37
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     - Not on the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:38
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     - People may want to hold on to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:40
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     ► 
     Federico, I think you went, yeah, you go now and you get one more go each after this one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:46
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     ► 
     Okay, I'm gonna go with the plain iPhone 12. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:55
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     ► 
     The plain iPhone 12 is not in our top five answers. You have one more shot each. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:07:07
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     ► 
     iPhone 12 mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:12
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     - Is the fifth highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:07:17
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     - So Steven will pull in an additional 10 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:21
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     ► 
     So just to recap, Federico had 110 points from that round 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:26
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     and Steven 40 points as Federico got the first, second 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:31
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     and fourth highest answers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:33
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     Stephen with the third and fifth highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:37
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     ► 
     So some statistics for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:39
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     The iPhone 13 Pro accounted for 23.6% 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:07:45
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     ► 
     - Of the 1200 people that answered. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:48
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     The iPhone 13 Pro Max came in at 13.3%. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:53
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     The 12 Pro Max was 6.6%. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:58
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     ► 
     The 12 Pro was at 8.5%. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:59
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     ► 
     I gave those in the wrong way round, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:01
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     ► 
     but you get the point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:02
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     ► 
     The iPhone 13 mini was 5.8%, but the iPhone 12 mini, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:07
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     which was the one that made it to fifth, was 6.5. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:10
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     ► 
     - Okay, wow. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:12
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     ► 
     - Then the lowest down answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:14
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     ► 
     what would have been the sixth answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:15
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     would have been the iPhone 12, which is at 6.1%, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:18
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     then it would have been the 13 mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:20
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     And then the iPhone 11 was 5.1%, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:25
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     ► 
     which was the next one after that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:28
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     Which was, that was a surprise to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:31
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     I don't know, that just carried on from there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:35
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     Oh sorry, the iPhone 12 had 6.1%. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:37
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     ► 
     This is really hard to look at. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:39
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     ► 
     I can't show it to you, but it's really hard to look at. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:42
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     ► 
     iPhone SE people are asking about. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:44
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     ► 
     This was complicated because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:48
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     ► 
     I had to combine all of the SE models 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:52
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     ► 
     because it was very, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:55
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     ► 
     because people were writing them in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:57
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     ► 
     I couldn't feel confident in which model of SE 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:01
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     ► 
     people were talking about but it didn't end up being an issue because it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:04
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     ► 
     only 2% of the responses so well if it would have been higher I think I would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:09
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     ► 
     have tried to do something about that but it got really it got really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:13
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     ► 
     complicated people are asking David in the chat is asking were there any non 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:18
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     iPhones yes there are a lot of there were a lot of Samsung phones but it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:23
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     ► 
     like one or two and it was various models a few Xiaomi's and a handful of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:27
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     ► 
     OnePlus phones as well. Someone using a Nokia 8.3 5G, I don't even know what that is, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:33
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     ► 
     but one of those is in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:34
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     ► 
     - Interesting, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:35
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     ► 
     - And a handful of Google Pixel phones as well. There's a lot of votes splitting on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:40
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     ► 
     those really, you know, like because there's so many models of these phones, they split 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:45
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     across, you know, that if they were more consolidated, they might have had a slightly better chance. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:50
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     ► 
     But yeah, I was genuinely surprised that about 40% of the vote was the most recent iPhones, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:59
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     ► 
     the 13 Pro and the 13 Pro Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:01
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     ► 
     I guess that makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:02
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     ► 
     And then the iPhone 13 or the iPhone 12 not making it into that top five was interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:10:08
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     I'll say many owners in the audience really shooting yourselves in the foot not buying 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:12
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     ► 
     the 13 mini, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:14
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     ► 
     The rhetoric is... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:15
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     ► 
     Well, because they knew. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:10:17
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     They knew at that point it wasn't going to come back, you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:18
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     - It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point too, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:21
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     ► 
     I think a little bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:22
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     ► 
     Like, I mean, is a phone canceled if no one buys it? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:10:27
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     ► 
     - Exactly. - Who knows? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:28
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     ► 
     - So that is the first round. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:31
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     ► 
     Second round, what is your favorite wearable device? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:36
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     ► 
     What's the question asked, the passionate ones? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:39
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     ► 
     - Favorite wearable? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:41
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     ► 
     - Yeah, these are product classes, not model years, sizes, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:46
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     or numbered revisions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:47
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     ► 
     - Whoa, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:49
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     ► 
     - So we're talking straight up product classes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:51
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     ► 
     So for example, I mean, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:54
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     ► 
     like if we go back to laptops as an example, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:57
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     ► 
     it was like just MacBook Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:59
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     ► 
     not MacBook Pro model year, whatever, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:02
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     ► 
     not MacBook Pro this size. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:03
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     ► 
     This is just straight up product classes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:06
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     ► 
     - Okay. - Follow? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:11:08
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     ► 
     - Okay. - Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:09
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     ► 
     - So we're gonna flip a coin 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:11
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     ► 
     and Federico is gonna be heads. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:11:14
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     ► 
     - Okay, but it's tails, so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:16
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     ► 
     - Obviously. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:17
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     ► 
     - So you said that for yourself, you know what I mean? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:21
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     ► 
     - Being first hasn't helped me at all so far, so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:24
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     ► 
     - This is a very good point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:25
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     ► 
     This is a very good point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:26
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     ► 
     So favorite wearable, Steven, you're up first. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:29
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     ► 
     - Apple watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:30
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     ► 
     - You got 50 points is the highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:33
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     ► 
     - Obviously, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:34
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     ► 
     AirPods Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:36
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     ► 
     - Is the second highest answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:37
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     ► 
     that's 40 points to Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:40
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     ► 
     - Is that the answer for all AirPods? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:43
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     ► 
     - Nope, that was just AirPods Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:45
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     ► 
     I appreciate that you asked. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:46
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     ► 
     - So you did separate them a little bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:48
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     ► 
     - AirPods Pro is its own product. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:51
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     ► 
     - Yeah, product classes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:53
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     ► 
     - That's a product class. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:11:55
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     ► 
     - You see, but who's saying, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:58
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     ► 
     right, so Apple Watch, that's its own thing, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:02
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     ► 
     - Okay, I was just trying to clarify. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:05
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     ► 
     - Well, no, you weren't clarifying. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:06
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     ► 
     You said I did it wrong. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:07
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     ► 
     I'm Quizmaster, all right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:09
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     ► 
     You don't come to me with your questions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:11
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     ► 
     I come to you with questions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:13
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     ► 
     I'm gonna say the regular AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:15
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     ► 
     - That is 30 points for Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:18
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     ► 
     Do you feel better now? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:12:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     - You wanna complain again? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:12:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     - No, no, you should get your 30 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:24
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     ► 
     - I'm gonna go with AirPods Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:28
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     ► 
     - Will that be a clean sweep? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:30
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     ► 
     No, it will not. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     AirPods Max did not find its way onto the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:12:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So we have three of the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:40
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     ► 
     mm-hmm I'm gonna go with Fitbit Fitbit is not in the top five I am gonna go 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     with Beats Fit Pro interesting three people said Beats Fit Pro that did that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:01
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     ► 
     was not enough to make you and I respect you hmm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:07
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     ► 
     14 people said Fitbit by the way. So not great there either. AirPods Max was 12. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:14
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     ► 
     More people with Fitbits than AirPods Max. I'm not familiar enough with the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:19
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     Beats products I feel like. So you said the Beat Fit Pro? They're the little... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm gonna say Powerbeats Pro by Beats. Powerbeats Pro, just two people. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:35
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     so that is not enough to make it onto the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:38
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     One of them was probably my spouse. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:40
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     Okay. Wearable device. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:44
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     Yeah. I'm going to give you one more chance each 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:46
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     and I'm going to give you a clue. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:49
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     These are our product classes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:53
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     Like, are there generic names in this list? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:56
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     What does generic name mean? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:59
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     I'm not... This is already going to give you the answer to this question, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:01
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     but like, can you give me an example? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:05
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     No, it's because you wouldn't be able to reply. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:09
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     I'm gonna go with the Sony XM4 headphones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:17
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     Do you mean the Sony WH-1000 XM4? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:21
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     Three people answered, so that's not enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:14:24
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     So we're really good at picking obscure wearables. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:27
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     Well, I mean, you're picking things... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:29
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     You're having a good run, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:30
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     Like, everything you've said is on the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:33
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     it's just not in the top five hmm okay hmm so we've picked Apple watch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:43
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     AirPods Pro you have picked Apple watch which is the top answer AirPods Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:49
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     which was the second highest answer and AirPods which is the third highest 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:52
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     answer things you have picked that are not in the top five AirPods Max, Fitbit, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:57
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     Beats Fit Pro, Powerbeats Pro and the Sony XM4. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:00
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     Yeah, okay, okay, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:02
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     So this is Steven, this is your... 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:15:08
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     I'm just just confirming here and then Federico you get one more, then I'm gonna give you a clue. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:12
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     I'm gonna say the... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:14
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     What is it? The Oya ring? Whatever it is? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:19
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     The Ura ring? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:15:22
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     Well, it made it to four people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:15:27
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     one person spelt it really wrong which is funny to me they spelt it like a u h a but i knew what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:33
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     they meant you know there's a lot of that you know there's a lot of that like europe yeah there's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:39
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     lot of like people write full sentences to me uh in these answers it's like what am i supposed to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:46
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     do with this i'm gonna go with these with a with a different kind of pick i'm gonna say a regular 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:56
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     watch at the fifth highest answer with 10 points is analog watch okay okay now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:07
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     Federico you have negated my clue there is no clue now okay okay so I can still 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:14
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     one more on the board okay yeah analog watch you're gonna get one more round 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:24
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     each. Man, I don't know. What else is out there? I guess what constitutes wearable. Oh, oh! 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:34
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     I'm gonna say an Oculus headset. Wear it? That is the first answer that isn't on here? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:46
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     No one thinks about that as a wearable. One person said MetaQuest. One person said MetaQuest. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:16:54
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     But so that's not enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:16:58
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     I'm gonna go... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:00
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     So I get one more? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:01
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     Is that right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:17:03
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     This is the final guess. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:04
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     I am going to go... 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:17:07
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     I guess the problem is what you considered wearable. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
	 01:17:13
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     Classification? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:17:16
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     Oh, you know what? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:17
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     I'm gonna go with sunglasses. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:23
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     wait, we have one person said snap spectacles. We had, I think someone said 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:31
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     those Ray Ban things, but I can't find them so yeah the answer is no okay so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:37
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     what was it none oh that's a trick question that's not a trick I've done 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:43
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     it before I've given you this before the question of what was your operating 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:48
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     system? I think one of the answers in the top five was none. I had to include this because none 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:57
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     was answered by 4.5% of people. Wow. So it was such a huge... because then from there the highest was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:06
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     1.3% so it was four times the next answer. They don't wear anything. They don't wear no clothes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:15
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     They wear nothing on them. If you think about it everything is wearable. Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:20
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     watch is 56.2%, AirPods Pro was 17.2%, regular AirPods was 8.4%, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:27
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     Nunn was 4.5%, Analog watch was 1.4%, AirPods Max was 1.1%, and then it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:35
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     kind of just went down from there. Oh sorry Fitbit was 1.3%. 0.8% of people, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:41
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     still rocking a pebble. Wow! That's more than the Garmin's. I was gonna say Garmin 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:50
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     if I had another shot I was gonna go with like one of the Garmin smartwatches 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:53
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     but yeah okay. Hey do you think the pebble people like getting stoned? Nice I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:00
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     like that. Just as a comparison 0.9% of people said Apple Watch SE so it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:06
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     basically as many people. So there was 9 people that were in Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:10
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     watch SE and there are eight that said Pebble. Now of course because of the way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:17
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     it's questioned those people may have just thought that meant of all time. So 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:21
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     the results now at the end of the second round is 160 points to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:25
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     Federico, 120 points to Steven. Okay. So we're gonna do the third round now. The 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:34
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     question is, actually I'm gonna do the client flip first and I'm gonna say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:38
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     say, "Tales for Steven." 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:19:42
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     - Federico gets to answer first. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:19:45
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     - The question is, "What is your favorite computer?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:50
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     - Wait, we did this last time. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:19:53
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     - Didn't we? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:54
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     - We did first computer and current computer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:56
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     - Okay, so these are the questions we did last time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:58
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     First Apple product, operating system at school, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:02
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     ► 
     first iPhone, OS you use most, which computer do you use? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:07
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     - Okay, all right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:08
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     This question is, what is your favorite computer? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:12
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     Okay, what are you looking for? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:14
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     Product classes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:15
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     They are not model year sizes or variations of in a model by name or processor. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:20:21
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     MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:22
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     ► 
     Wow, you didn't even give me any chance. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:23
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     I was too busy trying to complain to someone in the Discord 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:27
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     who said I spelt "favorite" wrong because I put a "u" in it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:29
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     But I didn't even get time to burn that person down 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:31
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     because Federico's coming in there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:33
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     and claiming the top answer of 50 points for MacBook Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:37
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     I'm gonna go with MacBook Air. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:39
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     Steven's coming in and taking the second highest answer, getting 40 points for MacBook Air. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:46
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     I'm torn between two. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:20:57
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     He speaks from the heart, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:01
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     I feel like this one comes with a lot of expectation from Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:05
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     Like it's not just wanting the points, it's also wanting like the life validation that comes with this answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:13
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     You get life validation to the tune of 20 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:16
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     iPad Pro was the fourth highest answer on the favorite computer list. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:21:21
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     How does that feel? Is that good? Is that enough? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:23
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     Feels good, feels good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:24
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     Okay, you just wanted it in there, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:26
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     It has to be in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:28
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     It has to be in there. Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:32
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     I'm gonna go with iMac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:35
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     That's a bold one, Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:39
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     Actually, before I answer you, why iMac? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:42
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     I think, I mean, a lot of people who have used a desktop, it's what they've used. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:47
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     It's fun and colorful. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:48
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     I feel like even if you don't own one, maybe you used one in school or have a fond memory of it somehow. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:53
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     ► 
     So the "On the board" is the third and fifth highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:58
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     ► 
     Which one do you think it is? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:59
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     I think I got the third one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:01
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     I think the third. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:02
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     You're correct, it gets you 30 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:05
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     iMac is the third highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:07
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     So all that is left on the board is the fifth highest answer and you've run it so far. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:14
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     ► 
     You've run the table. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:16
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     ► 
     So you've got 50 points for MacBook Pro, 40 points for MacBook Air, 30 for iMac, 20 for 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:22:24
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     ► 
     70 points each so far in this round. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:30
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     ► 
     I will go with a PC. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:22:38
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     ► 
     Unfortunately, the streak has been broken. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:41
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     ► 
     PC is not in our top five answers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:43
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     - Kind of thought maybe the gaming PC people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:46
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     would come out storm. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:48
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     - It was there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:50
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     It was there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:51
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     ► 
     Custom built PC was 2.8% of people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:22:55
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     ► 
     - But not the favorite, interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:57
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     ► 
     - 28 in total, which is actually kind of funny. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:00
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     ► 
     - So we've got MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iMac, iPad Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:09
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     ► 
     - So the question is like, is it a Mac or another iPad? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:23:14
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     ► 
     - But Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:18
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     - What is a computer, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:19
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     - What is a computer? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:20
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     ► 
     - I think about six people put that in. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:23
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     - Of course they did. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:24
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     ► 
     - They would just, oh no, three. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:26
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     ► 
     I left them in on this one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:27
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     ► 
     Three people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:29
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     do really is just for those three people I just want them to know that they're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:33
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     ► 
     not as funny as they think they are right because each one of those three 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:37
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     ► 
     people were like haha here's my original joke hmm right but it wasn't it wasn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:43
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     ► 
     that good on Twitter sometimes so you get a bunch of replies that all say the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:46
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     ► 
     same thing yeah when I was when I was doing that I was thinking of that exact 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:49
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     ► 
     thing which is like if you have a fun joke I do this if I see someone's tweet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:53
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     ► 
     something I got a funny joke I just check the answers like that check the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:57
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     ► 
     tweets I should say like the responses have people made this joke has this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:01
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     ► 
     joke been made 20 times if it has I'm not gonna make it you know this is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:04
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     ► 
     vice that I would like to impart upon everyone it's good her social media guru 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:10
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     ► 
     I'm going to say iPad air interesting just six people answer that I put it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:21
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     ► 
     that is not enough. I'm gonna go with Mac Studio. Mac Studio? Coming in there with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:30
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     ► 
     Federico. Why Mac Studio? Well, because I think people have a tendency to think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:36
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     their favorite thing is their most recent thing. People who got the Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:42
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     ► 
     Studio seems to be seem to be really into it, so that was my thinking. Not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:47
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     ► 
     enough of them, just 22 people put Mac Studio on the list, which does not put it in the top 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:51
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     ► 
     Wow. It crushed the iPad Air though. Yeah, I really did. Poor iPad Air. 22 to 6. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:00
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     ► 
     It's not great. I'm gonna go with Federico's thinking. I do think there's something to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:05
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     ► 
     explore another time where we think the most recent thing is the best or favorite thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:08
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     ► 
     That's really something we should explore. But I'm gonna go with the Mac Pro. I combined 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:17
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     ► 
     Mac Pros as you would imagine. Oh no, that's not a good sign. 15. 15. 15. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:26
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     ► 
     The Mac Studio destroyed the Mac Pro. Yeah, well that's true in a lot of ways I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:31
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     ► 
     want to think about so. Yeah. Okay, okay, so I'm torn between two. I was gonna say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:40
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     ► 
     one more round but I'm enjoying this one too much actually. So I want you to keep 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:44
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     ► 
     I feel like it's something silly that we're just overlooking. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:50
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:53
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     ► 
     We're out of Macs just about. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:54
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     ► 
     There's one more. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:25:56
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     ► 
     I'm gonna go with Mac Mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:59
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     ► 
     21 people said Mac Mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:03
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     ► 
     So less than the Mac Studio. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:26:07
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     ► 
     So we're out of Macs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:08
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     ► 
     Cut the Mac Mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:09
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     ► 
     How many people... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:10
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     ► 
     I know it's 21, but Mac Mini, you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:13
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     ► 
     There's some passionate Mac Mini people out there. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:26:16
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     ► 
     - I got the small. - There's 21 of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:18
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     ► 
     - Small life. - We know that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:18
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     ► 
     We know at least there's 21. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:20
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     ► 
     - We said PC, and you, Myke, interpreted that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:26
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     as custom built PC. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:28
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     ► 
     - Because I, yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:31
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     ► 
     I did interpret that as custom built PC, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:32
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     ► 
     - So I feel like PC notebook is still out there, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:36
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     ► 
     but I don't see that being the fifth 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:39
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     ► 
     most favorited computer by our audience. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:43
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     But we're out of Macintoshes, unless we do something old, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:46
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     which I don't think we're gonna do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:48
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     Maybe the Apple II people came out in force again. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:51
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     - Yeah, I was thinking about that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:53
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     - You know what, in honor of those heroes, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:56
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     the Apple II. - You're going for it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:58
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     - Oh, Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:59
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     - You went for it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:02
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     - That was, this is a very good guess. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:04
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     We heard from actually quite a number of those people. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:07
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     - I did, I really enjoyed those emails. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:09
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     - That all of them listened to the show, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:10
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     so I expected to hear from a bunch of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:12
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     But only eight of those people were willing to say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:15
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     it was their favorite computer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:17
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     - They didn't show up for this one, I'm sorry. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:27:22
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     ► 
     - One more round. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:24
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     - Yeah, and there's one missing iPad. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:26
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     ► 
     Well, there's two missing iPads, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:27
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     but I guess I'm going with iPad mini at this point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:31
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     - Just nine, just nine people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:27:35
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     - Which I was pretty upset about that to be honest. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:38
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     - Is the answer none again? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:40
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     'Cause I can't, I can't handle that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:42
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     I will tell you, no, it is not none. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:44
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     I will give you that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:46
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     It is not none. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:47
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     There is something on this list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:49
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     - What in the world could it be? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:51
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     ► 
     - Give us one more round. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:27:54
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     ► 
     It's gotta be something. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:55
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     ► 
     - All right, you'll get one more go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:57
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     ► 
     So Steven, you get two. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:58
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     Federico, you get one more. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:00
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     - Okay, thank you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:02
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     ► 
     So Steven's up now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:04
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     ► 
     - I'm gonna go PC laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:05
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     ► 
     - No, it's not on there. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:28:07
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     - So the thing about custom built PCs, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:09
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     that's what people answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:10
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     ► 
     People don't build their own laptops, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:11
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     ► 
     so that I have a bunch of laptops on this list, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:15
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     ► 
     But none of them are gonna get you what you want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:18
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     ► 
     - And you're not willing to combine all PC laptops 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:20
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     ► 
     into one broad category? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:28:23
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     ► 
     Even if I did, it wouldn't be enough 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:26
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     ► 
     to get the fifth highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:27
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     ► 
     - Okay, that's what I wanna know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:28
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     ► 
     I wanna know that you're not holding out on me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:28
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     ► 
     - There will be like 10. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:30
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     ► 
     I've got three people that have got various Dell XPSs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:34
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     - It's a good laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:35
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     ► 
     - Two people that have got like a XPS 15. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:40
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     ► 
     We've got one person who put framework laptop and basically answer framework laptop anywhere they could. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:46
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     ► 
     I've seen that in it so many times. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:48
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     ► 
     I think people that have those are pretty passionate. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:28:52
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     ► 
     I'm sort of thinking if Myke said the answer is not none. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:58
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     ► 
     You got one more round, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:29:00
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     ► 
     We each have one more pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:02
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     ► 
     I'm gonna tell you something. This isn't gonna help you. I'm gonna tell you this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:04
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     ► 
     42 people gave this answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:29:10
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     ► 
     To put that into context, the iPad Pro got 85. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:14
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     ► 
     So I'm sort of wondering if they tried to be clever with this answer 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:27
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     ► 
     and it's not necessarily a computer? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:31
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     ► 
     What's a console, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:34
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     ► 
     You know what, at this point, I mean, what am I gonna guess? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:38
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     ► 
     like a random obscure computer? No, I'm gonna go with iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:43
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     ► 
     iPhone is answered. 24 people. Okay. Making it more than the Mac Studio or more than 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:52
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     ► 
     the Mac Mini? Not enough. Wow. Steven, you have the final guess here. With this I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:59
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     ► 
     gonna lean into maybe people didn't give you a complete answer and so the number 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:04
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     ► 
     is artificially high for just plain simple iPad. Yeah. 21 people. No, that's not it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:15
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     ► 
     I'm about to blow a hole in your recency theory when I tell you the fifth 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:22
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     ► 
     highest answer with 42 responses is MacBook. Wow! MacBook. Really? MacBook. More 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:35
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     ► 
     than the Mac Pro, more than the Mac Studio. That picks up people who love the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:39
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     ► 
     12-inch little one like Underscore and Casey, but it also picks up people who 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:44
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     ► 
     like the white and black plastic ones. Dang, I should have thought of that. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:47
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     ► 
     I got five iBooks. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:30:51
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     ► 
     If they were in there, I don't remember now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:53
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     ► 
     but I would have combined those that you just mentioned. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:56
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     ► 
     But similarly, iMac benefited from a lot of older iMacs in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:03
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     ► 
     So iMac G4 and stuff was all in that list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:07
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     ► 
     They all got compressed into iMac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:09
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     ► 
     So iMac got that bump. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:12
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     ► 
     But MacBook. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:14
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     ► 
     That's incredible. Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:16
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     ► 
     Okay. So at the end of the third round, we're at 230 points to Federico, 190 points to Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
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	 01:33:02
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     ► 
     Okay, so we move into the fourth, the penultimate question in today's passionate ones round. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:11
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     ► 
     The fourth question, oh I should do my coin flip first, so we're going to say Steven is 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:33:19
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     ► 
     Okay, what I always like when that happens is it's always Federico saying it to himself, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:24
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     ► 
     you know, like in those moments. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:26
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     ► 
     So Steven, you're going to get the first pick at the question, what is your favorite ever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:31
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     ► 
     iPod. Favorite ever iPod. Your favorite ever iPod. Again, product classes, not models. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:42
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     ► 
     iPod Nano. I like it when you're so, you know, I haven't even got the time to move over to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:49
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     ► 
     the different tabs in my spreadsheet. When you come in there and get the top answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:54
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     ► 
     That's 50 points going to Steven there for iPod Nano. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:57
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     ► 
     I'm going to go with just iPod, the classic basically. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:05
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     ► 
     Are we going to do it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:06
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     ► 
     I don't know. We'll see. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:08
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     ► 
     That is the second highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:10
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     ► 
     40 points for Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:12
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     ► 
     Don't let me down, Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:14
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     ► 
     Pick the third highest. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:34:18
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     ► 
     Steven, let me down. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:34:21
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     ► 
     That's the fifth highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:23
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     ► 
     You get 10 points for iPod mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:34:28
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     ► 
     - Say you too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:29
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     ► 
     You too iPod, say it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:34:34
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     ► 
     - Well, that wouldn't count. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:36
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     ► 
     That got wrapped into iPod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:37
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     ► 
     - That doesn't mean he can't guess it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:34:41
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     ► 
     That's a good point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:42
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     ► 
     - Play the player, not the game. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:45
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     ► 
     - iPod Touch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:47
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     ► 
     - Is the third highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:50
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     ► 
     Going to Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:34:54
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     ► 
     iPod shuffle. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:34:56
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     ► 
     Hold on one moment. I'm just filling in my point spreadsheet here because I accidentally 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:03
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     ► 
     gave Federico 10 points to a Memphis Steven. So I figured that everyone, well, maybe except 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:09
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     ► 
     Federico's happy that I had to fix that. So that is now fixed. You said iPod shuffle. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:35:16
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     ► 
     iPod shuffle is not in the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:18
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     ► 
     Wait, how many iPods are there? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:21
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     ► 
     tell me history boy wait what we've done classic what's there what's the the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:30
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     ► 
     rank you have answered top answer iPod nano that was Steven Federico got iPod 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:37
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     ► 
     and iPod touch for second and third and the fifth highest answer was iPod mini 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:42
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     ► 
     at ten points for Steven and shuffle is not in the list and shuffle is not in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:47
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     ► 
     list that's all the big categories you've you've done something here have I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:52
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     ► 
     you didn't yes I you didn't lump all big iPods into one camera yes I did what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:58
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     ► 
     else is there the fourth highest answer worth 20 points is it the YouTube iPod 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:04
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     ► 
     no I told you already not that would have been counted in iPod along with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:08
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     ► 
     iPod class you have iPod photo and video in video photo all the generations of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:14
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     ► 
     the original you two and classic are all just iPod there's literally nothing left 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:18
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     ► 
     mm-hmm huh okay none 20 points goes to wait was it his turn yeah I said yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:33
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     ► 
     yeah come on I'm sorry I don't like nothing being a possible answer 57 people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:41
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     ► 
     said it. 48 people said shuffle. Amazing. And 51 people said iPod mini. So it's one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:48
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     ► 
     of those things where like, where there are more people that said none than two of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:53
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     ► 
     actual iPods. Like I have to put it in there. Because again, it's like the answer is what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:58
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     ► 
     are people answer? That's what you're playing. Yeah. I guess that speaks to the age of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:02
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     ► 
     audience as well. Like if a hundred people said Zune, it would have been on the list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:09
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     ► 
     Because I'm not judging like that, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:11
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     ► 
     It's like, what are they answering? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:14
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     ► 
     So the breakdown was 358 people said iPod Nano, which is 35.4%. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:23
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     ► 
     And 348 people said iPod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:26
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     ► 
     I was genuinely really surprised at the fact that the iPod Nano beat iPod because of how 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:32
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     ► 
     many iPods there were. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:37:35
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     And how long it went for, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:37
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     ► 
     but I guess the Nano like I think people feel more strongly if they love or hate a certain generation of Nano and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:42
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     ► 
     They were more affordable. I get it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:37:46
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     ► 
     iPod touch was 148 people at 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:37:54
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     ► 
     Then none was 57 people at 5.6% 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:38:03
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     Mini was 51 people. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:06
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     ► 
     The iPod shuffle was 48. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:38:10
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     ► 
     So at the end of that round, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:12
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     ► 
     it's 320 points to Federico, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:15
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     ► 
     250 points to Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:38:19
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     ► 
     You can, Steven can actually still win this round today. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:24
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     ► 
     It is possible. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:26
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     ► 
     I'm going to flip a coin 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:27
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     ► 
     for our final question of the day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:29
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     ► 
     And I'm going to say Federico is heads. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:38:35
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     ► 
     And I'm just going to say first, I think for Steven's sake, especially when looking at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:39
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     ► 
     him wanting to win this, I think this might be best for him because this question is, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:45
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     ► 
     what is your favorite app? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:49
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     ► 
     Your favorite app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     What is your favorite app? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:52
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     ► 
     Oh, this is a good one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:55
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     ► 
     No qualifiers on this one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:38:58
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     ► 
     And I'm going to play to the fact that we're a podcast and I'm going to say Overcast. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:02
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     ► 
     cast yeah top answer whoa 50 points thank you going to Steven amazing as you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:11
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     ► 
     can imagine this was the highest amount of actual usable answers that I got from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:20
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     ► 
     after or everything was counted up together there is a total of 258 apps 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     in this list there's so many that have just won. How many did you remember the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:33
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     ► 
     milk get? I will answer that question for you either when you choose it or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:38
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     ► 
     afterwards. Okay I will go with I will go with Safari. Safari is not in the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:39:48
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     ► 
     Wow okay Safari was answered by 25 people huh big big web energy okay 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico I'm actually pretty surprised that you've struck out on your first 
     
     
  
 
 
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     guess that why was not expecting that big att boy over there should have had 
     
     
  
 
 
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     John play for you I'm gonna say tweet bot tweet bot is the fifth highest answer 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so Stephen collects another ten points I'm gonna go with hmm hmm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico shaken right now yes you could feel it no I just want to state right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now it is now in this round 320 points to Federico 310 to Stephen you see 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, that turned around? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That turned around fast. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I will go with shortcuts. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Shortcuts is not in the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     You're overthinking this, man. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So it's all third party apps. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's all third party apps. Shortcuts, 11. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     I see how this question was answered then. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     All right, cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm gonna say, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     trying to think of categories that people are, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     amped about, right, people have strong opinions about. I'm gonna say OmniFocus. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     OmniFocus is not in the top five. You're back in the race, Federica. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     OmniFocus was answered by seven people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     I see you're playing like the passion, right? You're thinking like, what do people really 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Yeah, that's a good answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:41:40
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     Just four people. Not a good answer. It's not in the top five. What? Okay. This is like... I don't even know. Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Man, we're getting murdered. What? I'm actually really surprised about this. This is great. This is brutal. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You have the second, third, and fourth highest answers available. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My guess is that Instagram is on the list, so I'm gonna say Instagram. Instagram is on a list. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - But it is not on the list you're looking for. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Three people. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - Said that Instagram was their favorite app. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Hold on, hold on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:19
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     - Oh, here he comes. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     - Oh, that's good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:26
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     Second highest answer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:27
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     I cannot believe. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:28
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     So Federico, remind me, you do a public vote, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:32
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     - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I gotta think like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:35
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     I gotta think like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:35
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     You're right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:36
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     - Because there's somebody who does the upgrade-ies. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:38
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     Yeah, I'm, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:39
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     Apollo is always number one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:42
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     Yes, I know, I know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:43
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     Every single time, so. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:42:46
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     That was why I was specifically surprised 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:49
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     that Federico would not set Apollo. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:51
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     Don't worry, don't worry, I got you, I got you now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:52
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     Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:54
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     Okay, that's, yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:55
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     that's changed the way I'm gonna think about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:42:57
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     And I'm gonna pick Carrot Weather. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:01
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     There he goes, they're back on the board. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:04
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     The third highest answer goes to Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:43:10
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     I am going to go, I'm torn between two, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:13
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     but I'm gonna go with drafts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:15
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     - Drafts was answered by 17 people. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:20
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     Is that enough to make it the fourth highest answer? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:23
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     No, it is not. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:43:27
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     - If I get this right, it's gonna be so glorious. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:32
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     - Do you know why it will be glorious? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:34
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     - Because it's obsidian. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:35
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     - Because, no, because you will tie. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:37
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     And I will tie and I'm gonna pick his favorite app and I'm gonna say it's Obsidian. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:41
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     You should totally tie with Obsidian. Yes, go for it. Yes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:43:44
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     If this was pro wrestling and things were like concocted, that is how this would end. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:43:55
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     But 21 people answering Obsidian is not enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:44:00
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     Well, they're too busy manicuring their perfect knowledge systems. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:05
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     Yep, those people, they wrote their answers in obsidian, I didn't see them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:09
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     Yeah, well the sink is kind of iffy, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:11
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     They can't get it to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:13
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     Based on what I usually see, in public votes, I'm gonna go with things. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:44:21
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     So this is again, this is going back to that like, you know, the beautiful design and the things people care about. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:29
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     But at 19 people, not enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:44:32
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     I'm gonna keep this one going. I'm loving this. This is great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:39
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     This might be, I think, the highest amount of times you've both struck out. There's eight 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:44
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     things you've given me between the two of you that are not in the top five. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:47
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     Yeah, that's bad. Favorite app? I'm gonna stick with my feeling that it's some sort 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:44:58
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     of knowledge app, and I'm gonna say craft. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:01
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     Yeah, good pick. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:03
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     Yeah, good pick. Now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:05
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     Obsidian was 21 people, right? Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:09
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     Croft is just 20. Ooh. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	 01:45:25
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     Let me just check, did anybody say that? One person. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:29
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     One person hates apps one person one person 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:45:32
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     Actually to two people one person said not applicable one person said none because it was the two I didn't bother combining them 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:38
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     Those people have no joy. Yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:45:49
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     So Federico, yeah you a second 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:52
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     So I'm gonna give you your answer then I'm gonna give you just a bit of a clue 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:56
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     and then I think I'm gonna give you two more rounds each. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:45:59
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     Okay so it's my turn now? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:46:03
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     No, yeah okay it's my turn now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:05
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     Uh cool so you know I will go with... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:11
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     He said craft already so that doesn't apply. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:46:18
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     Didn't need to give you that clue because Federico got it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:46:26
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     was the fourth highest answer. There was a total of 31 people. Okay. It said reader. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:34
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     You see how we started to get really small at that point? Yeah. Because you had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:38
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     25% of people said overcast, then 9% of people said Apollo. 4.1% of people said 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:45
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     Karat weather, and then it started going down from there into much much smaller 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:49
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     numbers. I do like that we have two RSS based apps in there. That's fun. People 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:46:55
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     love RSS and social media. So tell me about remember the milk. Ah yeah where is it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:00
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     ► 
     Remember the milk... I want to know about shortcuts also. Oh you said it already I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:06
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     think. Unfortunately you didn't fill this out Steven so no people. Wow. Wow. Harsh. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:13
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     Shortcuts, 11. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:17
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     Yeah, you said 11 people, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:47:20
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     Notes, Apple Notes, 2. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:47:26
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     ► 
     What about Discord? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:27
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     ► 
     One person said App Store. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:47:31
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     ► 
     10 people said Discord. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:36
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     ► 
     What about Slack? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:37
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     ► 
     'Cause I think Slack won an early upgrade-ies, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:40
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     ► 
     And my guess is that it's fallen from grace big time. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
	 01:47:46
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     - Zero people said so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:47
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     - It went from cool to being the business app, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:48
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     - Yeah, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:50
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     And I mean, it wasn't even just, it was that for sure, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:52
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     ► 
     but also that they just stopped doing anything to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:54
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     ► 
     That people like us cared about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:56
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     and just went in a different direction, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:47:58
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     We spoke about this kind of stuff a bunch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:00
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     ► 
     on the show before. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:01
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     ► 
     Are there any others that you are interested 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:04
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     ► 
     in knowing more about? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:05
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     ► 
     - Castro, Pico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:08
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     Castro, yeah Castro got 11? No 10. Peacock got 1. Messages got 6. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:21
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     ► 
     What about Spotify? Spotify was 4. Wow. Okay. That's the end of the quiz. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:32
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     ► 
     At the end of today's quiz, Federico has 380 points, Steven has 340 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:39
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     That makes Federico the winner again of the passionate ones round quizzes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:44
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     ► 
     This brings the overall score to Steven at 652 points, Federico at 831 points. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:48:54
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     He's a man of the people. It cannot be denied. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:48:57
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     I can't wait for the day when I just think up a 1000 point question. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:01
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     ► 
     That's gotta be good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:02
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     ► 
     I don't know what it's gonna be. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:04
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     ► 
     I don't know what it's gonna be, but like at some point I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:49:09
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     ► 
     So that's the end of the quiz for this episode of Connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:13
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     ► 
     And it's the end of the episode. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:14
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     ► 
     Look at that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:15
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     ► 
     Goodbye, rest of the topics. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:17
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     ► 
     Myke came in, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:18
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     ► 
     See you later! 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:19
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     ► 
     Yeah, we have a topic we've bumped out a couple times now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:23
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     We will eventually get to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:24
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     We will, we will. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:25
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     If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about, head on over to the website at relay.fm/connected/connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:30
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     connected slash 406 links are also in your podcast player no matter how popular it is if you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:38
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     ► 
     Send us email with feedback or follow up. You can do that from the web 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:42
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     ► 
     There's a link to email us from there or you can find us on Twitter. Myke is on Twitter as I Myke I am yke 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:48
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     Myke hosts a bunch of other shows here on relay FM. You can find Federico online of a tichi 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:49:55
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     ► 
     And he's the editor-in-chief of MacStories.net. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:50:00
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     ► 
     If you haven't read their impressions and previews of the public betas, go check them 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:50:06
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     ► 
     I learned a bunch from reading them, even though I've been running all the betas. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:50:08
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     Still stuff I didn't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:50:09
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     ► 
     So go check it out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:50:10
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     ► 
     You can follow me on Twitter as @ismh, and you can find a link to my Kickstarter in the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:50:16
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     I'd love it if you would go check that out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:50:17
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	 01:50:22
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	 01:50:29
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	 01:50:34
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     Until next time guys say goodbye. I'll do that you cheerio. Bye y'all