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00:00:00 ◼   ► (upbeat music)

00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 42.9.

00:00:11 ◼   ► I'm your host, James Thompson,

00:00:13 ◼   ► and I've been instructed by connectedintro.com/jjj

00:00:17 ◼   ► to introduce the one true John himself, Mr. John Vohies.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Hey James, how you doing today?

00:00:23 ◼   ► It's good to be here,

00:00:25 ◼   ► and I've been instructed by our robot overlords

00:00:28 ◼   ► to introduce our good friend, Mr. Jason Snell of Six Colors.

00:00:32 ◼   ► Hey, Jason.

00:00:33 ◼   ► - Oh, hey, John and James.

00:00:35 ◼   ► It's good to hear your voices again.

00:00:37 ◼   ► You know, it really doesn't feel like a whole year

00:00:39 ◼   ► since we did the last one of these.

00:00:42 ◼   ► - No, it doesn't.

00:00:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, the "Pikis" episode,

00:00:44 ◼   ► the Holly "Pikis" episode, right?

00:00:46 ◼   ► I mean, we're here every week.

00:00:47 ◼   ► I just mean the "Pikis," that's what I mean, right?

00:00:49 ◼   ► - Exactly, exactly.

00:00:50 ◼   ► - All right, well, it is our traditional,

00:00:54 ◼   ► before we get to the "Pikis,"

00:00:55 ◼   ► Big episode, big show this week.

00:00:59 ◼   ► Big show, very important show.

00:01:01 ◼   ► Not like the usual Connected,

00:01:02 ◼   ► but much more important than that.

00:01:04 ◼   ► It's our traditional Connected Christmas episode, right?

00:01:06 ◼   ► - Yes, yes.

00:01:07 ◼   ► - It's the holidays, and I've been instructed

00:01:10 ◼   ► by connectedintro.com/exchange, I guess,

00:01:14 ◼   ► to introduce the Triple J Gift Exchange,

00:01:16 ◼   ► where we give each other presents.

00:01:18 ◼   ► It's much easier when these intros are done,

00:01:20 ◼   ► assigned to us randomly, I love it, it's great.

00:01:23 ◼   ► We give each other presents in a little round robin,

00:01:25 ◼   ► and we are filled with the spirit of the holidays

00:01:27 ◼   ► and that is how it works every single year.

00:01:29 ◼   ► And James, I believe you get to start

00:01:31 ◼   ► the round robin this time.

00:01:32 ◼   ► - Yes indeed, it's your present.

00:01:35 ◼   ► I am pleased to further expand the range

00:01:38 ◼   ► of number based products in the Peacock family.

00:01:41 ◼   ► Now I would like to introduce you personally

00:01:43 ◼   ► to Curling by Peacock, which is a bespoke watchOS app

00:01:47 ◼   ► for all your curling needs made just for you, Jason.

00:01:50 ◼   ► A test flight build will be available

00:01:53 ◼   ► as soon as App Review approves the first build.

00:01:56 ◼   ► - I can't wait to see how, I did, I mean,

00:01:59 ◼   ► I guess you got my documentation for the curling app

00:02:03 ◼   ► I wanted you to write for me and you didn't say anything

00:02:05 ◼   ► and I thought I had offended you by demanding

00:02:08 ◼   ► that the developer I know in my life

00:02:10 ◼   ► to write an app just for me,

00:02:12 ◼   ► but I guess you just were working in the background

00:02:14 ◼   ► and didn't tell me about it.

00:02:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, I just wanted to surprise you.

00:02:17 ◼   ► - Well, that's very nice of you, that's very kind.

00:02:20 ◼   ► I can't wait for that TestFlight invite, I'll get on it.

00:02:23 ◼   ► John, I got something for you.

00:02:25 ◼   ► Now I want to tell you what I didn't get for you.

00:02:27 ◼   ► I know that's terrible, right?

00:02:29 ◼   ► - That is a weird way to start, but hey.

00:02:31 ◼   ► - Well you moved to North Carolina, right North Carolina?

00:02:35 ◼   ► - I did, yes.

00:02:37 ◼   ► - That's a state, right North Carolina?

00:02:39 ◼   ► - It is, it's on the left coast, the right coast.

00:02:41 ◼   ► - It's just with South Carolina is my understanding.

00:02:44 ◼   ► - It is, it's right to the north of it, funny enough.

00:02:46 ◼   ► - That's great, well so I wanted to get you something

00:02:48 ◼   ► barbecue related, but honestly,

00:02:51 ◼   ► All of my thoughts about barbecue I realized are sort of like Texas barbecue and like smoked

00:02:56 ◼   ► brisket and stuff and I know that North Carolina barbecue is totally different.

00:03:01 ◼   ► And I got actually really intimidated by the idea of getting you the wrong barbecue gift.

00:03:05 ◼   ► So instead I'm going to throw it back to your past and give you a little shot of nostalgia

00:03:09 ◼   ► and I'm going to get you a Chicago snow globe so that every time there's a horrible blizzard

00:03:15 ◼   ► in Chicago you can just look at the globe and laugh and laugh because you're in North

00:03:20 ◼   ► Carolina where it is warmer than Chicago I'm assuming I don't know it is no it is

00:03:26 ◼   ► it is much warmer than in Chicago and strangely enough there is a big storm

00:03:31 ◼   ► bearing down on Chicago at this moment and so each morning yeah each morning as

00:03:38 ◼   ► my wife and I are having breakfast we sit at the kitchen table we open up the

00:03:41 ◼   ► weather app and we take a quick look and maybe we send a text or two to our

00:03:45 ◼   ► friends back in Chicago and just kind of make fun of them fun of them a little

00:03:49 ◼   ► And it's probably smart that you didn't go with the barbecue,

00:03:51 ◼   ► Jason, because people are very particular

00:03:54 ◼   ► about their regional barbecue in different parts

00:03:56 ◼   ► of the country, whether you're in Texas or Memphis

00:03:58 ◼   ► or here in North Carolina.

00:04:00 ◼   ► I'm starting to learn North Carolina.

00:04:02 ◼   ► North Carolina is mostly about the vinegar-based sauces.

00:04:06 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Right?

00:04:08 ◼   ► Very thin, very good.

00:04:10 ◼   ► But you can get the other kinds here, too.

00:04:13 ◼   ► - I love all barbecue, and so I would love to have

00:04:15 ◼   ► some real, maybe when I visit North Carolina sometime,

00:04:19 ◼   ► we'll go do some barbecue things.

00:04:22 ◼   ► I just, I wasn't gonna, my knowledge of it is zero,

00:04:24 ◼   ► so I wasn't gonna, I didn't wanna make a faux pas,

00:04:26 ◼   ► because then somebody, your new North Carolina friends

00:04:29 ◼   ► are gonna see this thing that is not North Carolina barbecue

00:04:31 ◼   ► in your house, and they're gonna say,

00:04:33 ◼   ► you're obviously from the Midwest

00:04:36 ◼   ► and don't know anything about barbecue,

00:04:37 ◼   ► and I just, I don't need to do that to you, so.

00:04:40 ◼   ► - No, I need to fit in as best as I can here right now,

00:04:43 ◼   ► because we are brand new to the area.

00:04:45 ◼   ► All right, let me tell you a little bit

00:04:48 ◼   ► about what I got James.

00:04:49 ◼   ► So James has a big anniversary coming up

00:04:53 ◼   ► in just a couple of days in fact

00:04:54 ◼   ► from the time we record this,

00:04:55 ◼   ► which is the 30th anniversary of Peacock.

00:04:58 ◼   ► And you know, he's been working on this app

00:05:02 ◼   ► for a really long time on all these different platforms

00:05:05 ◼   ► and I figured he might be a little tired of doing that.

00:05:06 ◼   ► I thought, you know, the reason this app even exists

00:05:09 ◼   ► is so James has something to do his calculations on.

00:05:13 ◼   ► - That's true.

00:05:14 ◼   ► So what I did was I commissioned a bejeweled TI-42

00:05:19 ◼   ► just for James, so he can hang it up,

00:05:23 ◼   ► stop making software, and use a real calculator

00:05:27 ◼   ► with all sorts of glitter and shine all over it.

00:05:31 ◼   ► - I mean, A, just the gift of retirement

00:05:34 ◼   ► is the best gift that you could give me.

00:05:36 ◼   ► That's what I absolutely need right now.

00:05:38 ◼   ► But yes, I love the sparkle on this,

00:05:40 ◼   ► and I think the TI-42 is of course an excellent touch.

00:05:45 ◼   ► - I am happy for James if he retires,

00:05:49 ◼   ► but sad because I was hoping that he would work on it

00:05:53 ◼   ► for 42 years, for no reason, just for fun.

00:05:56 ◼   ► - If I work on it-- - Yeah, that's true.

00:05:58 ◼   ► - If I do 42 years, the curse is broken.

00:06:00 ◼   ► I think that's how it works.

00:06:02 ◼   ► - Fair enough.

00:06:03 ◼   ► James, what do you have?

00:06:09 ◼   ► So, John, I have it on good authority

00:06:11 ◼   ► that you really like game controllers and collect them.

00:06:14 ◼   ► - I do, I have a problem.

00:06:15 ◼   ► - We're actually, this is an intervention

00:06:19 ◼   ► so much as a present.

00:06:21 ◼   ► But I would like to introduce you to another bespoke product

00:06:26 ◼   ► which is Controls by Dice by Peacock,

00:06:29 ◼   ► our first hardware project just for you.

00:06:32 ◼   ► All the buttons of the controller

00:06:34 ◼   ► are actually made from dice

00:06:36 ◼   ► and I find that the really sharp defaults

00:06:39 ◼   ► give you that just good force feedback.

00:06:41 ◼   ► - That's very kind of you, James.

00:06:44 ◼   ► I really like that.

00:06:45 ◼   ► I feel like having dice on my controller

00:06:48 ◼   ► is gonna be good for my hands too, you know?

00:06:50 ◼   ► Just kind of like a massage therapy for my thumbs.

00:06:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, you can just roll things as well

00:06:56 ◼   ► just by flicking your thumb over the buttons.

00:06:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, that's excellent.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Thank you so much, James.

00:07:01 ◼   ► All right, I've got one for Jason as well.

00:07:05 ◼   ► And you know what, it's clear from Jason's hobby, curling,

00:07:10 ◼   ► that deep down he really,

00:07:11 ◼   ► he doesn't want to live in California.

00:07:13 ◼   ► - Finally I have a hobby.

00:07:15 ◼   ► I just like, I love that everybody's like,

00:07:17 ◼   ► ooh, Jason has a hobby now.

00:07:19 ◼   ► Finally, after all these years

00:07:21 ◼   ► of just talking about computers,

00:07:22 ◼   ► he does literally anything else

00:07:24 ◼   ► and everybody's focused on it.

00:07:25 ◼   ► Well, thank you, thank you.

00:07:26 ◼   ► - Yes, yes, yes.

00:07:27 ◼   ► It's a hobby that hasn't turned into a podcast yet.

00:07:30 ◼   ► - Yet.

00:07:31 ◼   ► - But what I got you is I'm gonna teleport you

00:07:34 ◼   ► into my snow globe so that you can live there

00:07:38 ◼   ► in the cold, frigid Chicago weather for eternity

00:07:43 ◼   ► and curl in the outdoors anytime you want.

00:07:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, if he wants to live somewhere cold,

00:07:48 ◼   ► he could just come to Scotland.

00:07:50 ◼   ► - The home of curling, that's where it was invented.

00:07:52 ◼   ► All right, well, I'm gonna turn the tables then.

00:07:54 ◼   ► Thank you, John, and I'm going to,

00:07:55 ◼   ► here's my gift for James.

00:07:58 ◼   ► James, for 10 pounds, I got you a curling session

00:08:04 ◼   ► It is tricurling.com/rink/hamilton-ice/rink.

00:08:09 ◼   ► 24 minute drive from your house, I checked.

00:08:14 ◼   ► I know you don't drive,

00:08:15 ◼   ► but you do live with somebody who does.

00:08:17 ◼   ► And it's fun for couples too.

00:08:19 ◼   ► They have a session there Friday at noon.

00:08:22 ◼   ► There will be coffee and biscuits and curling.

00:08:25 ◼   ► So I guess be there or I dare you.

00:08:28 ◼   ► How about that?

00:08:29 ◼   ► I dare you.

00:08:30 ◼   ► - Well, I do respond well to dares as you know,

00:08:34 ◼   ► But yeah, I mean, I like coffee, I like biscuits.

00:08:38 ◼   ► Curling, we'll see.

00:08:39 ◼   ► - We'll try it out.

00:08:40 ◼   ► - But I need to do the research.

00:08:42 ◼   ► - How's college already?

00:08:43 ◼   ► - I need to do this product right.

00:08:44 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:08:45 ◼   ► - So we have a packed show, but we've done,

00:08:50 ◼   ► we are infused with Christmas spirit now, which is great.

00:08:54 ◼   ► And that means that it's time for our first sponsor.

00:08:57 ◼   ► Now, as many of you know, the suits at Real AFM

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00:09:04 ◼   ► because of the incident.

00:09:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, my lawyer has advised me

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00:09:16 ◼   ► I mean, the livestream really knows.

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00:09:26 ◼   ► yeah, yeah. - Yeah.

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00:11:34 ◼   ► It's time for the PICCIES, the annual contest where we do our picks for what will happen

00:11:39 ◼   ► next year, next year, and please stand for the reading of the PICCIES charter.

00:11:49 ◼   ► It will be introduced by me as instructed by connectedintro.com/whoreadsthecharter.

00:11:58 ◼   ► We have really automated everything.

00:12:01 ◼   ► It's better this way.

00:12:02 ◼   ► There are two types of pickies, annual pickies and WWDC pickies.

00:12:06 ◼   ► No other pickies shall ever be introduced.

00:12:08 ◼   ► Okay, right.

00:12:10 ◼   ► So I feel that I'm going to be difficult for most of this segment, but you know how

00:12:14 ◼   ► we're the triple J?

00:12:15 ◼   ► I feel that limiting ourselves to two pickies is just off-brand.

00:12:20 ◼   ► I hear you, but it's right there in the rules.

00:12:22 ◼   ► No other picky show ever be introduced.

00:12:24 ◼   ► However, we can do our annual Constitutional Convention episode, which as everybody knows

00:12:29 ◼   ► happens on Jason Voorhees Day, which is the first week that has a Friday the 13th in it.

00:12:34 ◼   ► It's actually coming up so soon.

00:12:36 ◼   ► It's January the 11th, so it's just in a few weeks.

00:12:39 ◼   ► And that's our Constitutional Convention.

00:12:40 ◼   ► I look forward to changing all this stuff.

00:12:41 ◼   ► Okay, so all the rules can change, but they can't change until then.

00:12:44 ◼   ► The winner of the annual pickies is named Grand Admiral Pinkerton and retains the title

00:12:50 ◼   ► for an entire year.

00:12:53 ◼   ► The WWDC Pickies winner is named the Cupertino Shindig King as we amended in our May 11th

00:13:00 ◼   ► episode and retains that title until the next WWDC is held.

00:13:06 ◼   ► Order for annual pickies and WWDC pickies is based on the winner of the previous year.

00:13:12 ◼   ► The winner goes second.

00:13:14 ◼   ► The losers flip a coin to determine who goes first

00:13:18 ◼   ► and who goes third.

00:13:19 ◼   ► Jason is the only person who is allowed to flip a coin

00:13:23 ◼   ► and cannot use an app to do it.

00:13:25 ◼   ► - So, to earn any points,

00:13:30 ◼   ► I'm reading this very carefully,

00:13:32 ◼   ► everything written down in the prediction document

00:13:34 ◼   ► must come true.

00:13:36 ◼   ► And this is where it all falls apart for me.

00:13:38 ◼   ► - Are we doing this?

00:13:39 ◼   ► - Not everything that was written down

00:13:41 ◼   ► in the prediction document came true this year,

00:13:44 ◼   ► therefore legally nobody gets any points.

00:13:47 ◼   ► I mean, I'm a professional logic wizard,

00:13:49 ◼   ► and I think the meaning of this rule is unambiguous,

00:13:53 ◼   ► and thus--

00:13:53 ◼   ► - Is this reverse Polish logic that's happening now?

00:13:56 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:13:56 ◼   ► - The whole competition is null and void,

00:13:58 ◼   ► and I would be saying this all regardless

00:14:00 ◼   ► of whether or not I had won or lost this year.

00:14:04 ◼   ► And I say we have to completely rewrite all the rules

00:14:07 ◼   ► for next year, because this is just nonsense.

00:14:10 ◼   ► - Everybody loses what you're saying, James.

00:14:12 ◼   ► - Take it to Jason Voorhees day, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:15 ◼   ► - Yes. - That's the day for it.

00:14:16 ◼   ► There are no half points awarded in any round,

00:14:20 ◼   ► but other fractions are allowed.

00:14:22 ◼   ► - I mean, have we considered decimals?

00:14:24 ◼   ► Like say 0.49999 recurring?

00:14:28 ◼   ► I mean, it's technically not half point.

00:14:30 ◼   ► - Take it to the Constitutional Convention, I guess.

00:14:33 ◼   ► - Oh, man.

00:14:34 ◼   ► - That's your answer to everything.

00:14:35 ◼   ► - It's got my answer, well, that's right there, yeah.

00:14:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's why we have it.

00:14:39 ◼   ► - It's how it's been done for years, James.

00:14:41 ◼   ► Why would we change it now?

00:14:43 ◼   ► - Oh, James is just being difficult.

00:14:46 ◼   ► - I don't know why. - Three point, as usual.

00:14:49 ◼   ► This is why he doesn't read the ads anymore.

00:14:52 ◼   ► Three points are awarded for any pick deemed correct

00:14:55 ◼   ► in the first round.

00:14:57 ◼   ► - Two points are awarded for any picked

00:15:00 ◼   ► deemed correct in the second round.

00:15:01 ◼   ► And I don't have any problem with that one.

00:15:03 ◼   ► - One point will be awarded for correct picks

00:15:05 ◼   ► in the lightning round.

00:15:07 ◼   ► Any pick that comes true in the first half of the year

00:15:10 ◼   ► is worth double.

00:15:11 ◼   ► - Don't forget the second half.

00:15:15 ◼   ► - All right, the first half is defined to be

00:15:18 ◼   ► the total number of seconds in each year divided by two.

00:15:22 ◼   ► I think that's like James slipped that in there.

00:15:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't remember that one, but.

00:15:27 ◼   ► - We did that for WWDC because, you know.

00:15:28 ◼   ► - All right, that was one of those

00:15:29 ◼   ► May Constitutional Convention changes.

00:15:31 ◼   ► Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right.

00:15:32 ◼   ► Jason Voorhees in May last year.

00:15:34 ◼   ► All right, fine.

00:15:36 ◼   ► Your total percentage expressed as a fraction of wrong answers will be multiplied by five and deducted from your final score.

00:15:43 ◼   ► All calculations are performed using IEEE 754 floating-point numbers, not integers.

00:15:49 ◼   ► Leave it to the numbers guy. I'm glad you're here, I don't understand any of that.

00:15:52 ◼   ► The two other hosts must agree that at least one of your picks is not obvious, one is pretty cool, and one is quite sneaky.

00:15:59 ◼   ► Every pick has to be related to Apple or the tech industry.

00:16:02 ◼   ► No picking things that the picker of the pick could make come true by themselves or by inducing others,

00:16:08 ◼   ► including taking a job at Apple or ruining an entire social media company in the space of a month.

00:16:14 ◼   ► Nope, I don't know what that's about. No picking things that are not provably true or false.

00:16:19 ◼   ► Whether or not you can prove a negative is best left for the philosophers.

00:16:24 ◼   ► No altering the prediction document after the show is over. We all remember what happened in 2020.

00:16:32 ◼   ► Not to mention back in June.

00:16:34 ◼   ► "After scoring is complete, each host must place the official Picky's refrigerator magnets in the proper configuration on their refrigerator for the next year.

00:16:44 ◼   ► Winner at the center of the door, second place at the lower left corner, third place at the lower right corner.

00:16:51 ◼   ► In the event that your fridge is not made from a ferrous metal, you must secure them by some other means."

00:16:57 ◼   ► - True, it's true.

00:16:58 ◼   ► The winner of each competition will be given access

00:17:00 ◼   ► to the WWDC Shindig King and Picky's Admiral accounts

00:17:04 ◼   ► on all social media platforms currently

00:17:06 ◼   ► or hereafter devised as appropriate.

00:17:09 ◼   ► As we all know, these accounts were removed from Twitter

00:17:11 ◼   ► after we were said to have been impersonating the hosts

00:17:13 ◼   ► of some other podcast.

00:17:15 ◼   ► Fortunately, they changed that rule the next day,

00:17:17 ◼   ► but we are not gonna take any chances.

00:17:20 ◼   ► And I am the Cupertino Shindig King, of course,

00:17:22 ◼   ► because I made my dramatic seven point victory at WWDC.

00:17:26 ◼   ► Seven points for me, five points for John,

00:17:28 ◼   ► negative seven points for James,

00:17:30 ◼   ► which means that in a world where absolute value matters,

00:17:33 ◼   ► James and I tied.

00:17:34 ◼   ► - Look, I like to think that I did just as well as you,

00:17:36 ◼   ► only in a different direction.

00:17:38 ◼   ► - That's fair enough.

00:17:40 ◼   ► There is definitely a universe in which you are the winner,

00:17:43 ◼   ► it's just not our universe.

00:17:44 ◼   ► All right, let's score the 2022 pickies.

00:17:46 ◼   ► We're here at the end of the year.

00:17:48 ◼   ► The first round, as we said, were three points.

00:17:51 ◼   ► John chose Apple introduces a standalone display,

00:17:55 ◼   ► not connected to a laptop or an iMac,

00:17:57 ◼   ► I love that detail there.

00:17:59 ◼   ► Well, it has a display that costs less

00:18:03 ◼   ► than any pro display XDR.

00:18:05 ◼   ► John, you got it.

00:18:07 ◼   ► - I did, six points for me.

00:18:09 ◼   ► - First half of the year, so you get the bonus there

00:18:12 ◼   ► and it's a six point win for you for that one.

00:18:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:18:15 ◼   ► I'm staring at one of them right here on my desk

00:18:17 ◼   ► at this very moment.

00:18:18 ◼   ► - James chose, "Apple will introduce a Mac in 2022

00:18:22 ◼   ► "whose multi-core Geekbench score is more than twice

00:18:24 ◼   ► as fast as any existing Mac from 2021. And I'm sad to say, as all Mac users are, that

00:18:31 ◼   ► the Mac Studio, while fast, is only slightly faster than the existing Mac Pro on Geekbench

00:18:39 ◼   ► multi-core. Sorry, James.

00:18:41 ◼   ► I mean, what can I say? Apple lied to us about completing their product refresh to ARM in

00:18:47 ◼   ► two years and they just didn't do it.

00:18:48 ◼   ► You were misled.

00:18:49 ◼   ► So this is their fault.

00:18:50 ◼   ► Yeah, they lied.

00:18:51 ◼   ► pick and it wasn't. It's too bad.

00:18:55 ◼   ► Alright, I picked that iPadOS gets non-mirrored external display support, which is, correct,

00:19:03 ◼   ► worth six points because it happened in the first half of the year. And I know what you're

00:19:06 ◼   ► going to say, which is that that didn't actually ship until later in the year, but

00:19:10 ◼   ► I'll just point out that the developer Beta 1 of iPadOS got this feature in early June.

00:19:17 ◼   ► Then they took it away and then they brought it back. But it got it.

00:19:21 ◼   ► I don't think that counts as getting it,

00:19:23 ◼   ► but I think we're gonna have to roll beta versions out

00:19:26 ◼   ► in our new version of the rule.

00:19:28 ◼   ► - I mean, you just said gets, right?

00:19:29 ◼   ► I didn't say ships.

00:19:30 ◼   ► I didn't say final version.

00:19:32 ◼   ► I just said gets.

00:19:32 ◼   ► - What does get mean?

00:19:34 ◼   ► - No, I think Jason gets this one.

00:19:37 ◼   ► We did not specify. - What does get mean?

00:19:39 ◼   ► - Right, right, right.

00:19:40 ◼   ► - I get it in quotes under protest from James.

00:19:45 ◼   ► All right, John and I are tied with six points.

00:19:47 ◼   ► James is at zero, not down in his preferred negative space,

00:19:52 ◼   ► which is interesting.

00:19:54 ◼   ► - I always live in a negative space, you know that.

00:19:56 ◼   ► - Okay, second round, worth two points each.

00:20:00 ◼   ► John, you chose, at WWDC, Apple will introduce

00:20:05 ◼   ► a home strategy that includes at least one new product.

00:20:07 ◼   ► I was looking over my Macworld predictions

00:20:10 ◼   ► the other week from last year.

00:20:12 ◼   ► Like you, I was suckered into believing

00:20:14 ◼   ► that Apple had a home strategy.

00:20:15 ◼   ► - You're right, right, or at least one was coming,

00:20:17 ◼   ► but no, no, no such luck.

00:20:19 ◼   ► - Maybe someday.

00:20:22 ◼   ► Maybe 20, are we suckers?

00:20:23 ◼   ► Well, I mean, stay tuned for the pickies

00:20:25 ◼   ► to find out if we're suckers enough to try that again.

00:20:27 ◼   ► - Yes, we are.

00:20:28 ◼   ► - James, this is gonna be a trend.

00:20:30 ◼   ► We're just, we'll start it here.

00:20:32 ◼   ► A developer kit will be introduced

00:20:33 ◼   ► for Apple's mixed reality headset at WWDC,

00:20:36 ◼   ► but the headset itself will not actually ship

00:20:38 ◼   ► to consumers during 2022.

00:20:42 ◼   ► I mean, it is true that it didn't ship to consumers.

00:20:46 ◼   ► I think that's worth 0.4999 recurring points

00:20:50 ◼   ► because it didn't ship to consumers during 2022.

00:20:52 ◼   ► So I was half right.

00:20:54 ◼   ► - John, what do you think about this?

00:20:56 ◼   ► I feel like his key pick here is

00:21:00 ◼   ► the developer kit will exist.

00:21:02 ◼   ► And then he's picking a non-existing thing

00:21:05 ◼   ► continuing to not exist later on in the pick,

00:21:07 ◼   ► which is kind of a buzzkill.

00:21:08 ◼   ► - I mean, you're basing your previous one

00:21:10 ◼   ► on things that are introduced and then go away

00:21:12 ◼   ► and then come back and whatever.

00:21:13 ◼   ► We know the headset exists.

00:21:14 ◼   ► We just haven't seen it.

00:21:15 ◼   ► - This was about developers, James.

00:21:17 ◼   ► I think this, I don't think you'd get this one.

00:21:20 ◼   ► On any level.

00:21:21 ◼   ► - Wow, John.

00:21:24 ◼   ► - And you told me that you'd be able to be bought, John.

00:21:27 ◼   ► - People say that I'm not getting this.

00:21:29 ◼   ► - I'm harsh, I was willing to give James

00:21:31 ◼   ► like 1/15th of a point or something for that,

00:21:34 ◼   ► but you're just like, no, it's not gonna happen.

00:21:37 ◼   ► - Rules are rules, rules are rules.

00:21:38 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, I think you're right, rules are rules.

00:21:40 ◼   ► The pickies are very serious when it comes to the rules.

00:21:42 ◼   ► All right, I chose to guess that anyone

00:21:45 ◼   ► who wants an Apple headset will be able to buy one

00:21:47 ◼   ► by the end of 2022 without becoming a developer.

00:21:50 ◼   ► Womp, womp, yeah.

00:21:52 ◼   ► - I mean, maybe nobody wants to buy one,

00:21:54 ◼   ► have we considered that?

00:21:56 ◼   ► - This is a very sad round.

00:21:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, so our score after round two

00:22:00 ◼   ► is the same as after round one, six and six and zero.

00:22:05 ◼   ► Now we will do the lightning scoring of the lightning round.

00:22:09 ◼   ► Pick one, John said,

00:22:12 ◼   ► "Eddie Q will return to an Apple keynote

00:22:13 ◼   ► "to talk about services but will not dance."

00:22:16 ◼   ► Didn't happen.

00:22:17 ◼   ► - Nope.

00:22:18 ◼   ► - James said, "At least one Mac will be introduced in 22

00:22:20 ◼   ► "that is available in regular Pro

00:22:22 ◼   ► "and Mac's processor configurations."

00:22:24 ◼   ► - It signed it plausible.

00:22:26 ◼   ► - It did, it really did.

00:22:28 ◼   ► And I said, "Universal control would ship before WWDC."

00:22:32 ◼   ► It did.

00:22:34 ◼   ► - Bing, bing, bing.

00:22:34 ◼   ► - That's two points for me.

00:22:35 ◼   ► - Two points.

00:22:37 ◼   ► - All right, pick two of the lightning round last year.

00:22:39 ◼   ► John said, "Notes will gain smart folders

00:22:41 ◼   ► based on tags and other metadata.

00:22:44 ◼   ► - Yay, we got that.

00:22:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, it did. - And you get two points.

00:22:48 ◼   ► - It did.

00:22:49 ◼   ► I thought Notes was gonna gain a lot more than that,

00:22:51 ◼   ► didn't happen, but you correctly picked the thing

00:22:54 ◼   ► that Notes gained at.

00:22:55 ◼   ► James said the Apple Silicon Mac Pro.

00:22:57 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:22:59 ◼   ► Oh, do I have to go on?

00:23:01 ◼   ► Will not support discrete graphics cards

00:23:03 ◼   ► or any other forms of PCIe cards for expansion.

00:23:05 ◼   ► I mean, it might, yeah.

00:23:07 ◼   ► - That part's right.

00:23:08 ◼   ► - It totally might be true.

00:23:10 ◼   ► - Like that statement could be true.

00:23:12 ◼   ► - It might. - We just don't know.

00:23:13 ◼   ► - It might not, yeah.

00:23:15 ◼   ► And I said, here's me saying, oh,

00:23:17 ◼   ► John picked a notes thing, I'll pick a notes thing.

00:23:19 ◼   ► Notes will add cross-linking in iOS 16,

00:23:22 ◼   ► like all the cool kids.

00:23:24 ◼   ► No, no, I heard that there was a podcast,

00:23:28 ◼   ► I think it was a Mac Stories podcast

00:23:30 ◼   ► where Federico said that, talking to you, John,

00:23:33 ◼   ► that it was strongly implied, it was like,

00:23:36 ◼   ► you know, some people think that they're gonna add

00:23:37 ◼   ► backlinks to notes.

00:23:40 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:23:42 ◼   ► And I'm sitting there seething,

00:23:43 ◼   ► it's like, that's me, I was the one who thought that.

00:23:45 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:23:47 ◼   ► Oh well.

00:23:47 ◼   ► In pick three, John said the 13-inch MacBook Pro

00:23:51 ◼   ► would be discontinued, I wish.

00:23:54 ◼   ► - I thought that was a lock.

00:23:56 ◼   ► - I did too.

00:23:57 ◼   ► How would they keep that computer around?

00:24:00 ◼   ► Like why would you do that?

00:24:01 ◼   ► It's a terrible idea.

00:24:03 ◼   ► They did.

00:24:04 ◼   ► James said Apple will announce that Apple Arcade

00:24:06 ◼   ► will have AR and VR titles at the launch of their headset.

00:24:09 ◼   ► I mean, they could have, they could have done that.

00:24:11 ◼   ► - I mean, I think a lot of these picks

00:24:13 ◼   ► are probably spot on for next year, but yeah.

00:24:17 ◼   ► - You're a man ahead of your time.

00:24:19 ◼   ► - That's it. - Yeah.

00:24:20 ◼   ► And I predicted that I would set foot

00:24:23 ◼   ► on the Apple Park campus by invitation.

00:24:27 ◼   ► And this happened twice.

00:24:31 ◼   ► - Did you influence this one?

00:24:34 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was gonna say.

00:24:35 ◼   ► - No, no, this is the thing is that I,

00:24:38 ◼   ► look, if the pick had been that I would set foot

00:24:40 ◼   ► on the Apple Park campus not by invitation,

00:24:43 ◼   ► that would be something I could control.

00:24:44 ◼   ► But I can't control whether they invited us on the campus.

00:24:47 ◼   ► And now I feel like I should have picked in the ring,

00:24:49 ◼   ► 'cause I've been in the ring twice this year,

00:24:52 ◼   ► which is, I would never have predicted that.

00:24:55 ◼   ► I thought that they would take us like they do

00:24:56 ◼   ► off to the Steve Jobs Theater, where it's sort of like,

00:24:59 ◼   ► it's far enough away that the smell of the general public

00:25:02 ◼   ► doesn't waft into the precious spaces of the people

00:25:05 ◼   ► who work on Apple products, but no, they let us in there.

00:25:08 ◼   ► They let our stink right in there.

00:25:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, they let the commenters in, me included.

00:25:13 ◼   ► - Unlike the two of you, I was explicitly invited

00:25:15 ◼   ► never to set foot on the campus again.

00:25:17 ◼   ► - You know what you did.

00:25:18 ◼   ► You know what you did.

00:25:19 ◼   ► - That's the special invitation.

00:25:21 ◼   ► - All right, pick four.

00:25:22 ◼   ► John said Apple will finally update Safari reading list.

00:25:27 ◼   ► - I'll tell you, Jason, we did get one single

00:25:31 ◼   ► shortcuts action related to Safari reading lists.

00:25:34 ◼   ► Does that count?

00:25:36 ◼   ► - No.

00:25:37 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:25:39 ◼   ► I might have backed you in another time

00:25:41 ◼   ► when you had backed me, but no.

00:25:43 ◼   ► I think you get nothing.

00:25:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was again thinking I would give you

00:25:47 ◼   ► one twelfth of a point, but James just said no,

00:25:50 ◼   ► and I'll go with that, all right.

00:25:52 ◼   ► James said the headset, (laughing)

00:25:55 ◼   ► do I have to go on again? - Read it carefully.

00:25:56 ◼   ► - Will have a sensor that can detect mouth shapes

00:25:59 ◼   ► and other facial expressions.

00:26:00 ◼   ► So, so, so, the Meta Pro headset

00:26:03 ◼   ► that got introduced this year has exactly this feature.

00:26:06 ◼   ► It has a sensor so it can match your mouth movements

00:26:09 ◼   ► and stuff. - Just wrong company as well.

00:26:10 ◼   ► - I said the headset.

00:26:12 ◼   ► I didn't specify the Apple headset in my pic.

00:26:15 ◼   ► - That was in all your previous pics or anything.

00:26:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, but I mean, I think you're making a assumption there.

00:26:20 ◼   ► - I'm not even gonna give you 1/19th of a point

00:26:22 ◼   ► for that one.

00:26:23 ◼   ► - I think you should take away a point

00:26:24 ◼   ► for that argument right there.

00:26:25 ◼   ► That's such a bad argument.

00:26:26 ◼   ► I'd take away like two points for that.

00:26:28 ◼   ► - And I keep trying to make fetch happen.

00:26:30 ◼   ► I said that there would be a Ted Lasso bit

00:26:34 ◼   ► that they would film and run in an Apple event.

00:26:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:38 ◼   ► - This is like a bit now.

00:26:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, I keep predicting it.

00:26:42 ◼   ► This is like my new Spinal Tap.

00:26:44 ◼   ► They're gonna make a This Goes to 11 reference

00:26:46 ◼   ► for the iPhone 11 or iOS 11 or Mac OS 11,

00:26:50 ◼   ► and they never, ever, ever, ever did it.

00:26:52 ◼   ► I mean, I guess once they said this goes to 11,

00:26:56 ◼   ► but they didn't, like, Spinal Tap didn't appear,

00:26:57 ◼   ► and I kept thinking, you bring out Spinal Tap at that point,

00:27:00 ◼   ► and they didn't do that.

00:27:01 ◼   ► Ted Lasso, clearly Jason Sudeikis is like,

00:27:03 ◼   ► "I'm not making your promo videos, that's not gonna happen."

00:27:06 ◼   ► - I mean, they can't even seemingly finish the third season

00:27:09 ◼   ► 'cause we're still waiting for that.

00:27:10 ◼   ► So they have no time to be filming random skits.

00:27:13 ◼   ► - Maybe they have extra time 'cause they're too busy

00:27:15 ◼   ► rewriting all their scripts

00:27:16 ◼   ► and the actors are standing around, I don't know.

00:27:19 ◼   ► Anyway, I missed that completely utterly.

00:27:21 ◼   ► Pick five, the last round of the lightning round,

00:27:23 ◼   ► which the lightning round, we should maybe consider

00:27:25 ◼   ► during Jason Voorhees day renaming it

00:27:28 ◼   ► 'cause it goes on forever.

00:27:30 ◼   ► Pick five, Apple will introduce a classical music focused app

00:27:33 ◼   ► is what John said.

00:27:35 ◼   ► John, you know, I guess technically there were 10 days

00:27:38 ◼   ► left in the year, but.

00:27:39 ◼   ► - I think it seems more likely we'll get a standalone

00:27:43 ◼   ► scar focused app at this point than this classical music.

00:27:46 ◼   ► - I have been hoping for this press release all week,

00:27:49 ◼   ► but nope.

00:27:50 ◼   ► - They promised, they promised, they literally said.

00:27:52 ◼   ► - They did.

00:27:53 ◼   ► - By the end of the year.

00:27:54 ◼   ► - They promised a lot of things and they just haven't had.

00:27:57 ◼   ► - Okay, but anyway, by the rules, we're scoring it now,

00:28:00 ◼   ► so this is it.

00:28:01 ◼   ► So, James, you said, "No Apple executive will say

00:28:03 ◼   ► "the words metaverse, blockchain, or NFT

00:28:06 ◼   ► "during any Apple event in 2022."

00:28:10 ◼   ► This is amazing, James, because I thought

00:28:15 ◼   ► you didn't get this, and I had to re-consult the picks,

00:28:18 ◼   ► because there was an event at which an Apple executive

00:28:22 ◼   ► was asked about the metaverse and said,

00:28:25 ◼   ► I believe, was it Josuwiak?

00:28:27 ◼   ► basically said, "We're not gonna talk about the metaverse,"

00:28:29 ◼   ► or something like that, and I thought,

00:28:30 ◼   ► "Aha, that's it for James," but it wasn't an Apple event.

00:28:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, this is the one prediction

00:28:38 ◼   ► that I am very glad that I got right,

00:28:40 ◼   ► because I can't see any of this stuff being aligned

00:28:45 ◼   ► with Apple's kind of corporate culture, so--

00:28:47 ◼   ► - Right, hard to imagine. - I'm very glad.

00:28:49 ◼   ► - Well, one of your competitors rebrands itself

00:28:51 ◼   ► using part of the word metaverse as its name.

00:28:53 ◼   ► You're never gonna use that name, right?

00:28:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:28:57 ◼   ► - Right, right.

00:28:58 ◼   ► - I picked, Apple will introduce a new service

00:29:00 ◼   ► with a monthly fee option.

00:29:01 ◼   ► It seems like, again, that that would have been a given.

00:29:04 ◼   ► I didn't know what the service was.

00:29:06 ◼   ► I just figured they'll try to find something

00:29:07 ◼   ► to charge us for.

00:29:09 ◼   ► That didn't happen, didn't happen.

00:29:13 ◼   ► So the scores after the lightning round, we're not done,

00:29:16 ◼   ► but here's the score after the lightning round

00:29:18 ◼   ► before the extra calculations are made.

00:29:20 ◼   ► I have 10, John has eight, James has one.

00:29:22 ◼   ► Now we go into calculation mode.

00:29:25 ◼   ► I got four out of my seven picks wrong, which equates to the decimal of 0.571428571, which

00:29:35 ◼   ► is multiplied by five.

00:29:37 ◼   ► That means that I'm deducting 2.857142855 from my total score, leaving me with a total

00:29:43 ◼   ► score of 7.142857145.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Jon, you got five of seven wrong.

00:29:51 ◼   ► - I did.

00:29:52 ◼   ► - 0.714285714 times five,

00:29:55 ◼   ► deducting 3.57142857.

00:29:58 ◼   ► We should maybe specify when it's Jason Voorhees day.

00:30:01 ◼   ► Maybe we should specify how many significant digits

00:30:05 ◼   ► we need in this calculation.

00:30:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think so.

00:30:07 ◼   ► - But you're so good at reading these numbers, Jason.

00:30:08 ◼   ► - I didn't want to leave it to chance.

00:30:10 ◼   ► So your total is 4.42857143.

00:30:13 ◼   ► And James, boy, James, six out of seven wrong.

00:30:16 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:30:19 ◼   ► 0.857142857 times five, so we deduct 4.285714285.

00:30:24 ◼   ► For a total, now you're back where you belong,

00:30:27 ◼   ► minus 3.28714285, meaning I am Grand Admiral Pickerton,

00:30:32 ◼   ► with 7.14 to John's 4.43 to James's minus 3.29.

00:30:39 ◼   ► So please place my magnet at the center

00:30:46 ◼   ► of your refrigerator door.

00:30:47 ◼   ► John's will go in the lower left corner,

00:30:48 ◼   ► James will go in the lower right corner.

00:30:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, I always knew maths was gonna prove to be

00:30:53 ◼   ► my downfall sooner or later.

00:30:54 ◼   ► I live in the corner of shame now.

00:30:56 ◼   ► - You do, you do, but you know,

00:30:57 ◼   ► you're in that really comfortable negative territory

00:30:59 ◼   ► that you're so used to, so you know,

00:31:01 ◼   ► you got that going for you.

00:31:02 ◼   ► - Yeah, you didn't even win in absolute value this time.

00:31:05 ◼   ► Like, you became last in both.

00:31:06 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:31:08 ◼   ► In absolute value and in regular, all right.

00:31:10 ◼   ► - That's an accomplishment.

00:31:11 ◼   ► - Well, I do think, congratulations for James

00:31:13 ◼   ► for fulfilling his destiny and scoring negative

00:31:15 ◼   ► for both things this year.

00:31:17 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:31:18 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean two wrongs don't make a right sadly.

00:31:21 ◼   ► Look, the problem is I believed in Apple's headset

00:31:25 ◼   ► more than Apple believed in Apple's headset,

00:31:27 ◼   ► but I'm not gonna make that same mistake again this year

00:31:30 ◼   ► by picking lots of headset things.

00:31:33 ◼   ► - All right, good.

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00:33:19 ◼   ► we couldn't have done that. All right let's move on. It's time for the 2023 picks.

00:33:25 ◼   ► It is and we're going to start with round one. We've each got a pick here and this I call this

00:33:33 ◼   ► the Mac round based on what you guys all picked and I'm gonna lead off.

00:33:37 ◼   ► Yes, I think we should say I need to flip a coin here.

00:33:40 ◼   ► Oh my gosh, I almost forgot the coin.

00:33:42 ◼   ► You're running roughshod.

00:33:44 ◼   ► Yeah, John, I mean connectedintro.com/newpix did tell you to lead this off but you missed

00:33:48 ◼   ► the important point.

00:33:50 ◼   ► Before the show began I flipped a coin, John is going to go first, I go second, James goes

00:33:54 ◼   ► third, and now John you may make your first round three point selection.

00:33:59 ◼   ► - All right, I don't get any points deducted

00:34:01 ◼   ► for just being eager, do I?

00:34:03 ◼   ► I hope not.

00:34:05 ◼   ► All right, my pick.

00:34:06 ◼   ► The MacBook Pro will be updated.

00:34:08 ◼   ► A MacBook Pro will be updated.

00:34:11 ◼   ► Okay?

00:34:12 ◼   ► - I mean, that seems like an extremely brave choice there.

00:34:15 ◼   ► I can't see them doing that in any way.

00:34:17 ◼   ► - Well, they just, I mean, but they just,

00:34:20 ◼   ► well, no, 'cause the 14 and the 16

00:34:22 ◼   ► have been out there a long time.

00:34:23 ◼   ► You're right, that's a good pick.

00:34:24 ◼   ► Very, very, I mean, it's an easy pick,

00:34:27 ◼   ► but I think it's a good pick.

00:34:28 ◼   ► my first run pick is going to be the Mac Mini

00:34:33 ◼   ► will get an update.

00:34:34 ◼   ► And you're thinking to yourself,

00:34:35 ◼   ► oh, well what an easy pick, like John's pick.

00:34:38 ◼   ► Any Mac Mini update prediction is fraught with peril.

00:34:41 ◼   ► That's all I'm going to say. - It really is.

00:34:43 ◼   ► - 'Cause every time you think it's obvious

00:34:45 ◼   ► that they're gonna update the Mac Mini,

00:34:47 ◼   ► they're like, nah, we'll let it ride

00:34:48 ◼   ► another couple years. - No, we're just gonna

00:34:49 ◼   ► leave it for five years and then we'll come back to it.

00:34:52 ◼   ► - The rule, I think, is that any product

00:34:55 ◼   ► that has Mini in the name is on like a five

00:34:57 ◼   ► to seven year product cycle.

00:34:59 ◼   ► - Ah, I want to believe though.

00:35:02 ◼   ► I want to believe.

00:35:03 ◼   ► - I think it'll happen.

00:35:04 ◼   ► So that's my choice.

00:35:07 ◼   ► - Speaking of believing,

00:35:09 ◼   ► my pick is the Mac Pro will finally be introduced.

00:35:12 ◼   ► I cut this one right down to just that.

00:35:15 ◼   ► They're gonna introduce it.

00:35:16 ◼   ► Not saying they're gonna sell it,

00:35:18 ◼   ► but they're gonna introduce it.

00:35:19 ◼   ► - Let's clarify this.

00:35:20 ◼   ► You mean an Apple Silicon Mac Pro, right?

00:35:24 ◼   ► I think if, honestly, if Tim Cook gets up on stage

00:35:28 ◼   ► and introduces an Intel Mac Pro,

00:35:29 ◼   ► I think I should get points just because

00:35:32 ◼   ► for the sheer audacity of Apple doing that.

00:35:35 ◼   ► - Okay, well, they're locked in.

00:35:39 ◼   ► The Mac Pro will finally be introduced, great.

00:35:43 ◼   ► Let's move on to the second round.

00:35:45 ◼   ► These are worth two points each, Jon.

00:35:47 ◼   ► - All right, I think it's gonna finally happen this year.

00:35:49 ◼   ► This is a little, for me, this is a little bit

00:35:51 ◼   ► like your Ted Lasso pick, Jason,

00:35:53 ◼   ► which is Apple's gonna release logic

00:35:56 ◼   ► or final cut for the iPad.

00:35:58 ◼   ► - Wow, I have predicted this in previous years, John.

00:36:02 ◼   ► - Have you?

00:36:03 ◼   ► Yeah, I guess you have. - And I got the scars.

00:36:04 ◼   ► I got the scars to bear witness to it

00:36:07 ◼   ► 'cause it just hasn't happened.

00:36:09 ◼   ► - It's kind of embarrassing, really.

00:36:12 ◼   ► - Does John get the point if they ship some Mac OS emulator

00:36:15 ◼   ► that runs on the iPad that can then run logic

00:36:17 ◼   ► or final cut? - No.

00:36:18 ◼   ► - No, I mean a real-- - For the iPad.

00:36:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, an iPad OS app.

00:36:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't know.

00:36:24 ◼   ► I'm kind of starting to feel like it's never gonna happen.

00:36:27 ◼   ► But I know, I did go to an Apple briefing this year

00:36:30 ◼   ► where I mentioned this and I was told something like,

00:36:33 ◼   ► "We understand." (laughs)

00:36:35 ◼   ► And I was like, "What does that mean?"

00:36:37 ◼   ► - We understand the words that came out of your mouth,

00:36:39 ◼   ► Jason Snow. - We get that you're

00:36:40 ◼   ► disappointed by it, but we don't care.

00:36:42 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:36:43 ◼   ► I don't know what it means.

00:36:44 ◼   ► Does it mean that they've got something in the works or not?

00:36:46 ◼   ► All right, here's my pick.

00:36:47 ◼   ► I'm gonna just leave it real simple,

00:36:49 ◼   ► which is I'm going all in on that big MacBook Air rumor,

00:36:53 ◼   ► and I'm gonna say there's gonna be a bigger MacBook Air.

00:36:55 ◼   ► And yes, that does imply that the name will be MacBook Air

00:36:57 ◼   ► or MacBook Air, I don't know, plus, max, whatever.

00:37:01 ◼   ► I don't care, but it'll be a MacBook Air.

00:37:03 ◼   ► It won't be like MacBook Max or MacBook Plus

00:37:06 ◼   ► or I don't know what MacBook.

00:37:08 ◼   ► It'll be like a bigger MacBook Air.

00:37:11 ◼   ► - I think we need a MacBook Grande at this point.

00:37:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think what they need is they need to have air

00:37:17 ◼   ► and then put a heavy word after it

00:37:20 ◼   ► so they kind of cancel each other out.

00:37:21 ◼   ► - What would that be?

00:37:23 ◼   ► Backward air gold.

00:37:24 ◼   ► Backward air lead is not so good,

00:37:28 ◼   ► but gold, you could do backward air gold.

00:37:30 ◼   ► Great, sure, anyway, just bigger, bigger.

00:37:33 ◼   ► - So my pick, like Santa,

00:37:35 ◼   ► I'm just gonna keep believing in this.

00:37:37 ◼   ► Apple will introduce a mixed reality headset.

00:37:42 ◼   ► And again, I use the word introduce

00:37:44 ◼   ► because I don't 100% believe it will ship.

00:37:47 ◼   ► I feel like we're all like Charlie Brown running after that football right now.

00:37:52 ◼   ► I just wrote my macro predictions articles and I absolutely predicted this because I

00:37:58 ◼   ► feel like from everything we know, it's been out there and it's coming and it missed

00:38:06 ◼   ► its window which should make us even more confident that it will happen next time.

00:38:12 ◼   ► - I think there's still the potential that they will look

00:38:15 ◼   ► at the sort of fudding reception to the MetaQuest Pro

00:38:20 ◼   ► and maybe say that we're not gonna do it.

00:38:23 ◼   ► - I mean, maybe.

00:38:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's hard to know at this point.

00:38:27 ◼   ► I mean, there are a lot of things between supply chain stuff

00:38:30 ◼   ► and the reception of Meta's headset.

00:38:32 ◼   ► It does kind of put a cloud around everything.

00:38:35 ◼   ► - There's been a lot of discussion as to whether

00:38:37 ◼   ► there is a market or a use case for this product

00:38:40 ◼   ► because if it is really a sort of $2,000, $3,000 thing,

00:38:44 ◼   ► who is it for?

00:38:45 ◼   ► - I think it's just like the Apple Watch,

00:38:48 ◼   ► you can send your heartbeat to people with it.

00:38:50 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:38:51 ◼   ► - But I'm predicting that it's gonna happen,

00:38:53 ◼   ► so I'm negative and positive.

00:38:55 ◼   ► - All right, all right.

00:38:57 ◼   ► Well, we've got another round to go.

00:38:59 ◼   ► So let's move on to the lightning round.

00:39:02 ◼   ► What are we on?

00:39:03 ◼   ► Lightning round two.

00:39:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna predict that Apple will finally do it

00:39:07 ◼   ► and they're gonna increase the free storage tier

00:39:10 ◼   ► for iCloud.

00:39:11 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:39:13 ◼   ► - Well, you brought this one on yourself, really.

00:39:15 ◼   ► - I did, I did.

00:39:16 ◼   ► - Wow, I don't even have anything to say.

00:39:20 ◼   ► I mean, of course, they should have done it 10 years ago,

00:39:23 ◼   ► but they haven't done it yet.

00:39:24 ◼   ► So what, John, what is gonna motivate them to do it now?

00:39:27 ◼   ► And do you have a prediction, separate from your picks,

00:39:30 ◼   ► about what it's going to be?

00:39:31 ◼   ► - It'll be more, it won't be enough,

00:39:35 ◼   ► but it will be driven by the fact

00:39:37 ◼   ► that the cameras just keep getting better

00:39:39 ◼   ► and the video files are so large

00:39:42 ◼   ► that it's gonna drive them to do it.

00:39:44 ◼   ► That plus HomeKit secure video,

00:39:46 ◼   ► there's so many reasons to increase it,

00:39:49 ◼   ► I feel like we've gotten to the point

00:39:51 ◼   ► where that dam just has to break.

00:39:53 ◼   ► - Okay, here's my round one pick.

00:39:56 ◼   ► John, get ready, hang on to something.

00:39:58 ◼   ► - I'm ready.

00:39:59 ◼   ► - Apple classical music service.

00:40:00 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:40:01 ◼   ► - There you go.

00:40:03 ◼   ► - I'm taking it.

00:40:04 ◼   ► I'm taking it from you because, you know,

00:40:07 ◼   ► I get this wrong if they introduce it on like New Year's Eve.

00:40:10 ◼   ► 'Cause it's not 2023.

00:40:12 ◼   ► But I don't care.

00:40:13 ◼   ► I think it's gonna be one of those things

00:40:16 ◼   ► that they just sheepishly push out

00:40:17 ◼   ► in like January or February.

00:40:18 ◼   ► - So a separate service, something that actually costs

00:40:21 ◼   ► separate from Apple Music itself is what you're saying.

00:40:24 ◼   ► And a service versus an app.

00:40:27 ◼   ► - I just, I don't, actually I don't want to even specify,

00:40:30 ◼   ► just like something classical music, Apple thing, right?

00:40:34 ◼   ► Like I'm not saying charge for separately,

00:40:36 ◼   ► I'm just, there will be something.

00:40:38 ◼   ► - 'Cause there's a lot of ways they could do it.

00:40:40 ◼   ► Yeah, there are a lot of ways they could do it.

00:40:41 ◼   ► They could dump it into the existing app,

00:40:43 ◼   ► they could charge separate for it,

00:40:44 ◼   ► there's a lot of things, but.

00:40:45 ◼   ► - Classical music thing finally arrives, how about that?

00:40:49 ◼   ► - There you go, that's perfect.

00:40:51 ◼   ► - I mean, this is really a show of Lucy's footballs.

00:40:53 ◼   ► It's just a, we're all just picking these things.

00:40:56 ◼   ► - It is all, like we're the football factory, basically.

00:40:59 ◼   ► - All the way down.

00:41:00 ◼   ► - We got all your footballs here.

00:41:02 ◼   ► - So my pick, a timely one perhaps,

00:41:08 ◼   ► Apple will announce their own social network

00:41:11 ◼   ► based on the Mastodon protocols.

00:41:13 ◼   ► Now I'm not saying they'll call it Mastodon,

00:41:15 ◼   ► but I think it will interoperate with Mastodon.

00:41:17 ◼   ► - All right.

00:41:21 ◼   ► - I mean it means that they get to,

00:41:23 ◼   ► like they could put their own employees on it

00:41:25 ◼   ► and they could control them.

00:41:28 ◼   ► - So are you saying they're basically gonna do it,

00:41:29 ◼   ► do some sort of activity pub type of thing?

00:41:32 ◼   ► - Well, no, I think that they looked at what MacStories did

00:41:36 ◼   ► and they thought that is the approach for us.

00:41:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, it is, well, we're trendsetters.

00:41:40 ◼   ► I mean, there's all of one of us out there.

00:41:42 ◼   ► All right, yeah, I don't see this happening, James,

00:41:46 ◼   ► I'm sorry to say.

00:41:47 ◼   ► - Well, you know, we'll see what happens with Shweta.

00:41:53 ◼   ► - All right, all right, round two.

00:41:55 ◼   ► My first pick is go-- - Round two for real.

00:41:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's gonna be Apple releases a new

00:42:00 ◼   ► or updated accessory for the iPad.

00:42:02 ◼   ► And this is not part of the scored pick,

00:42:04 ◼   ► but what I'm thinking here is it's time

00:42:06 ◼   ► for a new Magic Keyboard, because that thing's been around

00:42:09 ◼   ► since it was introduced.

00:42:10 ◼   ► Mine's a little long in the tooth,

00:42:12 ◼   ► and before I buy a new one to refresh it,

00:42:16 ◼   ► I wanna get, you know, I'd like to have

00:42:17 ◼   ► some new features or something.

00:42:19 ◼   ► - Well, I think it's gonna depend if they change

00:42:22 ◼   ► the form factor of the iPad or the iPad Pro.

00:42:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, which they might not.

00:42:27 ◼   ► - So John, I'm gonna go with you here.

00:42:29 ◼   ► I don't know if this is gonna be a pick later or not,

00:42:31 ◼   ► but I will say, I think there's a possibility

00:42:33 ◼   ► that the iPad, the big iPad announcement in 2023

00:42:38 ◼   ► might be that rumored larger iPad Pro, right?

00:42:42 ◼   ► Like they could do that off cycle

00:42:43 ◼   ► and then update the other ones in 24.

00:42:46 ◼   ► And if they do it off cycle, well, I mean,

00:42:48 ◼   ► there's definitely gonna be a new accessory for that.

00:42:50 ◼   ► So if that happens, I think you get this pick too.

00:42:52 ◼   ► And we all know like the iPad is as much about

00:42:55 ◼   ► its accessories as it is about itself.

00:42:57 ◼   ► - Exactly. - I just, the question is,

00:43:00 ◼   ► what new iPads are there going to be in 23,

00:43:03 ◼   ► other than maybe an iPad Air?

00:43:05 ◼   ► I would love for them to refresh that,

00:43:07 ◼   ► but if they don't, I don't know, I don't know.

00:43:09 ◼   ► It's an interesting question.

00:43:11 ◼   ► - I think we could even see like an Apple Pencil 3

00:43:13 ◼   ► or something like that.

00:43:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's possible, it's possible.

00:43:17 ◼   ► It's been a while since we've had an accessory,

00:43:18 ◼   ► and unfortunately, a long time since we've had

00:43:21 ◼   ► much of a design change in the iPad itself.

00:43:23 ◼   ► It's a weird lineup now, so it's a little bit

00:43:25 ◼   ► like the MacBook Pro.

00:43:26 ◼   ► It's in a weird transitional phase.

00:43:29 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:43:30 ◼   ► So I think this will happen, it's just,

00:43:32 ◼   ► will it be in 23 or not?

00:43:33 ◼   ► I think that's the risk there is, will the iPad.

00:43:35 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:43:36 ◼   ► - I'm so sad about this year's iPad Pros

00:43:38 ◼   ► that I'm like, ugh, not until we're gonna wait two years

00:43:42 ◼   ► for another iPad Pro.

00:43:43 ◼   ► All right, here is my prediction,

00:43:45 ◼   ► and this is a little esoteric,

00:43:46 ◼   ► but I'll explain myself in a moment.

00:43:49 ◼   ► An Apple executive will be present at the awarding

00:43:51 ◼   ► of a trophy for a sporting championship.

00:43:53 ◼   ► Okay, Apple wants to get into sports streaming.

00:43:57 ◼   ► Apple has signed their deal with MLS.

00:43:59 ◼   ► I think the most likely scenario is that we will see,

00:44:02 ◼   ► again, they don't have to hand the trophy over or something,

00:44:05 ◼   ► but like that we will see an executive from Apple

00:44:08 ◼   ► at probably the MLS cup presentation.

00:44:11 ◼   ► - On the stage basically,

00:44:14 ◼   ► as part of the crew that hands it out.

00:44:16 ◼   ► - Could be one of the other cup competitions

00:44:18 ◼   ► that's happening, could be something

00:44:20 ◼   ► we don't even know about now, but I feel like I just wanted to make a prediction about

00:44:25 ◼   ► Apple being a visible presence.

00:44:27 ◼   ► And Apple is going to be so integrated with MLS, people don't really understand.

00:44:32 ◼   ► Literally every MLS jersey will have an Apple TV logo on its sleeve.

00:44:37 ◼   ► It's going to be everywhere in MLS this year.

00:44:40 ◼   ► And I had this vision of like, it's not going to be like Tim Cook is here to hand the trophy

00:44:45 ◼   ► But I do wonder if if Tim Cook or Eddie Q or somebody else is gonna be like

00:44:50 ◼   ► nearby on the state on the stage or thereabouts

00:44:54 ◼   ► When the trophy is awarded so present at the awarding of a sporting trophy is my pick as well

00:45:00 ◼   ► I mean I I was gonna say as long as they don't give Tim a flag to wave I think we're good on this one

00:45:05 ◼   ► Yeah, well, I mean, I think I I would like to see Tim holding a trophy awkwardly like he held a beer Stein

00:45:14 ◼   ► Yeah, and and K in the discord is asking if Eddie Q attends the formula one gala

00:45:21 ◼   ► Does that count I'm like, well, maybe we'll see I'll keep an eye out doesn't have to be on stage

00:45:28 ◼   ► Present at the awarding of a trophy is all I'm saying if we can get evidence that there was an Apple exec at

00:45:35 ◼   ► Present there when the trophy is awarded. I think I'm gonna count it and that means yes. Yes James

00:45:43 ◼   ► This means that if Tim Cook is in a luxury box at the Super Bowl

00:45:46 ◼   ► And they award the trophy on the field and he's still there and we can get some evidence that he's still there

00:45:52 ◼   ► That totally counts but that's not gonna happen. So Tim only cares about college football. Anyway, James. What's your round two pick?

00:45:58 ◼   ► So my round two is Lucy's football

00:46:02 ◼   ► Apple will sell their mixed reality headset to consumers by the end of the year. I

00:46:11 ◼   ► I don't actually believe that this is likely.

00:46:15 ◼   ► - I think you like it down there in the negative,

00:46:16 ◼   ► don't you?

00:46:17 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:46:18 ◼   ► - It really does.

00:46:19 ◼   ► - It really depends, and I'll know early on

00:46:22 ◼   ► if this is gonna happen.

00:46:22 ◼   ► I think if they do an event in spring

00:46:27 ◼   ► to introduce this thing, and there's developer kits

00:46:29 ◼   ► and stuff, then I think they'll ship it by the end of year.

00:46:32 ◼   ► If they introduce it at WWDC,

00:46:34 ◼   ► I don't think it's gonna happen.

00:46:36 ◼   ► - Okay, round three, Jon.

00:46:39 ◼   ► Apple will introduce an update to the AirPods Max.

00:46:43 ◼   ► I think it's time.

00:46:44 ◼   ► I mean, the AirPods Max have been out for a while.

00:46:46 ◼   ► I think Apple's been doing a lot of work

00:46:48 ◼   ► to make the AirPods Pro sound better.

00:46:51 ◼   ► I think there's probably things they can do

00:46:53 ◼   ► to improve the quality of the AirPods Max too.

00:46:56 ◼   ► Maybe they'll use some sort of new codec.

00:46:59 ◼   ► It seems from an interview that I think an engineer

00:47:02 ◼   ► did with what hi-fi that that's maybe not

00:47:06 ◼   ► in the cards just yet, but I do think they'll

00:47:08 ◼   ► reintroduce a new version of the AirPods Max

00:47:12 ◼   ► that's improved in some way.

00:47:14 ◼   ► - I agree with you, I had this in my Macworld predictions

00:47:16 ◼   ► and so it was on my board for this.

00:47:17 ◼   ► I think this is a good pick.

00:47:18 ◼   ► It's about time and maybe they'll address

00:47:20 ◼   ► some of the stupid things they did in the original version.

00:47:23 ◼   ► And I'm just gonna say the AirPods Pro announcement,

00:47:26 ◼   ► AirPods Pro 2, they mentioned the increased bandwidth

00:47:29 ◼   ► and then never said why.

00:47:31 ◼   ► And I still think the case is that they've got

00:47:34 ◼   ► a firmware update that is gonna enable

00:47:36 ◼   ► some sort of enhanced quality or something,

00:47:39 ◼   ► not necessarily lossless, but higher bit rate or whatever,

00:47:43 ◼   ► and maybe they're even waiting for the AirPods Max

00:47:46 ◼   ► and then they'll do it on both, I don't know,

00:47:47 ◼   ► but I've got conspiracy theories.

00:47:50 ◼   ► Okay, mine is going to be Apple will not offer,

00:47:53 ◼   ► as it currently doesn't, the ability to sideload

00:47:56 ◼   ► iOS software anywhere in the world in 2023.

00:47:59 ◼   ► This is my prediction, is that they'll get ahead

00:48:01 ◼   ► of ourselves, there are rumors out there

00:48:02 ◼   ► that they're gonna offer this eventually,

00:48:04 ◼   ► but I'm going to say that nobody's going to make them

00:48:06 ◼   ► do it at any point in 23 and that if it does come, it will be in an iOS update that happens

00:48:13 ◼   ► in 24.

00:48:15 ◼   ► So that's my...

00:48:16 ◼   ► Don't hold your horses about like outside app stores.

00:48:20 ◼   ► I mean I can see this even if they've got the EU leaning on them, they'll say "Oh we're

00:48:24 ◼   ► working on it, we're working on it" and they'll drag it out as long as possible.

00:48:29 ◼   ► I mean just to be clear, it is possible to sidelight iOS software currently just not

00:48:34 ◼   ► in any sort of...

00:48:36 ◼   ► - Ability added by Apple.

00:48:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:48:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, James.

00:48:43 ◼   ► - Mine is a simple one.

00:48:45 ◼   ► Twitter will go bankrupt during 2023.

00:48:48 ◼   ► I mean, it's like--

00:48:49 ◼   ► - Oh, John, is this too obvious?

00:48:51 ◼   ► - It may be too obvious.

00:48:54 ◼   ► - At the rate that they're going, like in just over a month,

00:48:58 ◼   ► like I couldn't imagine that you could destroy

00:49:02 ◼   ► a company so fast and they have, so--

00:49:05 ◼   ► - I'm a little worried that we're gonna see this pick

00:49:07 ◼   ► in 12 months and go, what was Twitter?

00:49:10 ◼   ► - I'll tell you, my fear is that Twitter will go bankrupt

00:49:14 ◼   ► in like the next nine, 10 days, and I won't get the pick

00:49:18 ◼   ► because they're already got the great New Year's Eve

00:49:21 ◼   ► bankruptcy. (laughs)

00:49:23 ◼   ► - Yes. - Wow, wow.

00:49:25 ◼   ► Yeah, that happens.

00:49:26 ◼   ► You wanna get out of the news cycle

00:49:27 ◼   ► when you file these cases.

00:49:29 ◼   ► I think it could happen.

00:49:30 ◼   ► I really do think it could happen,

00:49:31 ◼   ► but I don't think it's, I think it's gonna be a while.

00:49:33 ◼   ► Elon's got a lot of money that he can pour into that thing

00:49:36 ◼   ► and drain his pockets before he's actually gonna--

00:49:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, have you seen how low Tesla stock is going?

00:49:42 ◼   ► - Oh, I know, I know. - That's his money.

00:49:43 ◼   ► - I know. (laughs)

00:49:45 ◼   ► - Also, bankruptcy is about protection from creditors, right?

00:49:47 ◼   ► And they do owe a lot of money,

00:49:48 ◼   ► so it may just be a trick to not have to pay what they owe

00:49:52 ◼   ► and then move forward.

00:49:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm not saying that this is a Twitter

00:49:55 ◼   ► that will have gone away and shut off all the servers.

00:49:58 ◼   ► I think they will go into some kind of restructuring mode.

00:50:01 ◼   ► - Right. - Right, round four.

00:50:03 ◼   ► - All right, my first pick is Apple Arcade

00:50:06 ◼   ► will add online multiplayer support for its games.

00:50:09 ◼   ► I think this is probably my riskiest pick of all of them.

00:50:12 ◼   ► - I love it though, I would love to see this.

00:50:14 ◼   ► I mean they've already got all the collaboration stuff

00:50:16 ◼   ► they built this year,

00:50:18 ◼   ► so maybe next year is game collaboration.

00:50:20 ◼   ► - Right.

00:50:21 ◼   ► - There are APIs that exist for doing multiplayer stuff.

00:50:24 ◼   ► They don't work, but they do exist.

00:50:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be something

00:50:28 ◼   ► that's targeted at kind of a more mainstream

00:50:31 ◼   ► type of console type of game,

00:50:33 ◼   ► Apple is definitely kind of toying around

00:50:36 ◼   ► with the edges of that industry,

00:50:38 ◼   ► but they're not really in it yet,

00:50:39 ◼   ► and I think this would be one way

00:50:40 ◼   ► for them to try to get into it.

00:50:41 ◼   ► - Good for the headset too, right?

00:50:43 ◼   ► The headset, games are absolutely gonna be a thing

00:50:45 ◼   ► on the headset, and you gotta have proper multiplayer support.

00:50:50 ◼   ► - I think the one thing that I would say against this

00:50:53 ◼   ► is any third-party developer that's coming to Apple stuff

00:50:56 ◼   ► is gonna have their own stuff,

00:50:58 ◼   ► and they're not gonna use Apple's, so we'll see.

00:51:01 ◼   ► But for Apple Arcade stuff,

00:51:03 ◼   ► 'cause they're also gonna keep down that path, right?

00:51:05 ◼   ► And that's the stuff that Apple can control

00:51:07 ◼   ► a little bit better.

00:51:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:51:08 ◼   ► What James said though is really at the root

00:51:10 ◼   ► of a lot of the problems with Apple and gaming,

00:51:12 ◼   ► is that Apple likes to make their own things

00:51:14 ◼   ► and everybody's got their own solution that isn't Apple's.

00:51:17 ◼   ► - All right, I'm going to say,

00:51:19 ◼   ► speaking of things that might happen because of legislation,

00:51:22 ◼   ► I'm gonna predict that we're gonna,

00:51:24 ◼   ► Apple will ship a wireless keyboard

00:51:27 ◼   ► that is charged via USB-C.

00:51:31 ◼   ► I'm not saying anything about mice or track pads,

00:51:33 ◼   ► although I suspect that will happen too,

00:51:35 ◼   ► but we need to be in the phase now

00:51:37 ◼   ► where Apple is getting rid of things

00:51:39 ◼   ► that charge via lightning,

00:51:41 ◼   ► and I think that this is gonna be the year

00:51:44 ◼   ► where we get an updated,

00:51:45 ◼   ► and probably not changed very much,

00:51:47 ◼   ► but an updated keyboard that's charged via USB-C.

00:51:51 ◼   ► So that'll be my pick.

00:51:52 ◼   ► - I think this is a pretty solid pick

00:51:55 ◼   ► when we get the next iMac or something like that,

00:51:58 ◼   ► they're just gonna refresh.

00:52:00 ◼   ► My only question is if it's in 23 or if it's in 24, but other than that I think it's inevitable.

00:52:04 ◼   ► I'm just going to go out on a limb about 23.

00:52:07 ◼   ► I think the fact that they revved the remote for the Apple TV to be USB-C, I think it's

00:52:12 ◼   ► just everything from now.

00:52:14 ◼   ► Yeah, I agree.

00:52:15 ◼   ► Yeah, no, it's definitely time.

00:52:17 ◼   ► I'm kind of tired of having a lightning cable within reach just to charge my trackpad and

00:52:21 ◼   ► keyboard.

00:52:24 ◼   ► My pick is also legislation related.

00:52:27 ◼   ► Apple's plans to introduce full encryption for iCloud backups will face a legal challenge

00:52:32 ◼   ► from the US government.

00:52:35 ◼   ► I mean, it's certainly going to face legal challenges from other governments, but I think

00:52:38 ◼   ► the US specifically.

00:52:39 ◼   ► Yeah, and I'm glad you specifically said legal challenge because there are lots of challenges

00:52:44 ◼   ► from the US government where it's like somebody in the FBI goes, "Oh, Apple."

00:52:49 ◼   ► And that's not the same as saying we're actually going to take them to court over this.

00:52:53 ◼   ► And so I think that's an interesting, I like the riskiness of it, but it's a reality that

00:53:02 ◼   ► this is definitely possible.

00:53:03 ◼   ► I think the question is just, does an incident happen that leads to this?

00:53:08 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:53:09 ◼   ► All right, it's time for round five.

00:53:12 ◼   ► And I've got to pick that really, I feel like I have to steal this from Jason from last

00:53:17 ◼   ► year, which is notes is going to add linking between notes.

00:53:19 ◼   ► John, John, you did it.

00:53:21 ◼   ► You can't steal other people's footballs.

00:53:23 ◼   ► - You did it.

00:53:24 ◼   ► Well, I mean, yeah, that's the other way.

00:53:26 ◼   ► I wanna be jealous, but I also have that moment of like,

00:53:29 ◼   ► don't you see what they did to me?

00:53:30 ◼   ► Now they're gonna do it to you.

00:53:32 ◼   ► - They are, they are probably, but I can hope.

00:53:35 ◼   ► I can hope and dream.

00:53:36 ◼   ► I hope that they get cross-knit linking.

00:53:37 ◼   ► - A friendly Apple way of, I mean, we already know,

00:53:40 ◼   ► like linking two notes in general, like via,

00:53:45 ◼   ► from another app or from shortcuts, like there are issues.

00:53:49 ◼   ► It would be nice if they kind of overhauled notes

00:53:52 ◼   ► so that it was very, you're always able to link

00:53:54 ◼   ► to a specific note and then had that ability

00:53:57 ◼   ► to create those links within a note to another note, right?

00:54:01 ◼   ► Like wouldn't it be nice?

00:54:02 ◼   ► I'm talking myself into it now, good luck.

00:54:04 ◼   ► - Look, it's technically possible to kind of pull out

00:54:07 ◼   ► the identifier for these notes and create your own links,

00:54:11 ◼   ► which Federico has done.

00:54:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's hard.

00:54:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's not simple and what I'm talking about

00:54:16 ◼   ► is an actual consumer friendly way to do this

00:54:18 ◼   ► by simply typing the name of the note

00:54:20 ◼   ► or looking it up with search or something like that.

00:54:22 ◼   ► - Even if it's like a rich preview kind of thing

00:54:24 ◼   ► where they like put another note,

00:54:26 ◼   ► you can put a link to another note

00:54:27 ◼   ► as a little rich preview in a note

00:54:29 ◼   ► and then you click on it and it opens it.

00:54:31 ◼   ► It's gonna be the training wheels version

00:54:33 ◼   ► of one of these other note taking apps, but still.

00:54:36 ◼   ► I would love that.

00:54:37 ◼   ► I am going to predict vaguely

00:54:40 ◼   ► another new Apple display will ship.

00:54:42 ◼   ► Again, I will say yes, of course,

00:54:44 ◼   ► I do not mean attached to a laptop or an iMac.

00:54:48 ◼   ► I mean a standalone, I'll put it in there,

00:54:52 ◼   ► another new Apple standalone display will ship.

00:54:54 ◼   ► What form will it take?

00:54:55 ◼   ► Will it be an update to the Pro Display XDR?

00:55:00 ◼   ► Will it be a rumored new extra fancy mini LED thing

00:55:05 ◼   ► that goes above the studio display?

00:55:10 ◼   ► I don't know, don't ask me.

00:55:11 ◼   ► I'm just saying now that Apple's in this game,

00:55:13 ◼   ► they're gonna get into it even more with another product.

00:55:16 ◼   ► and if they're gonna do the Mac Pro in 23,

00:55:20 ◼   ► why would they not do this too?

00:55:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think the Mac Pro is absolutely the point

00:55:26 ◼   ► where you'd introduce something like this.

00:55:27 ◼   ► - And the XDR feels old now, right?

00:55:29 ◼   ► Even though it's amazing, it's also like

00:55:31 ◼   ► actually using older tech than it's in other Apple products.

00:55:34 ◼   ► - Right.

00:55:35 ◼   ► - And you know, if this thing is gonna be more expensive

00:55:38 ◼   ► than the current studio display,

00:55:40 ◼   ► then the Mac Pro is like the kind of timeframe

00:55:42 ◼   ► that you wanna point us out.

00:55:46 ◼   ► - All right, James, what's your pick?

00:55:48 ◼   ► - So my pick is, mine is really sort of the evolution

00:55:53 ◼   ► of one of your previous ones is,

00:55:55 ◼   ► I say no new product from Apple will ship

00:55:58 ◼   ► with a Lightning connector in 2023, nothing.

00:56:01 ◼   ► And I am explicitly not counting Lightning

00:56:04 ◼   ► to USB-C dongles here, 'cause I can see them doing that,

00:56:07 ◼   ► but nothing in terms of keyboards, phones, computers,

00:56:11 ◼   ► anything is gonna have Lightning on it.

00:56:13 ◼   ► - So if they did a new AirPods Max

00:56:16 ◼   ► that charged via lightning, you would lose this pick.

00:56:19 ◼   ► - I would lose this pick.

00:56:20 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:56:22 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:56:22 ◼   ► We will now be scouring all minor Apple hardware updates

00:56:27 ◼   ► to find something that ships with lightning.

00:56:29 ◼   ► Like what if there's like an iPhone SE update in the spring

00:56:33 ◼   ► with a lightning port, you're out.

00:56:35 ◼   ► - I mean, I think if you call it an SE3 or a whatever,

00:56:39 ◼   ► and it's actually a new product, then I think yes, I lose.

00:56:42 ◼   ► That's the risk.

00:56:44 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:44 ◼   ► OK.

00:56:46 ◼   ► All right, we'll see.

00:56:46 ◼   ► We'll see.

00:56:49 ◼   ► Right, well, next week is the Connected Year in Review

00:56:53 ◼   ► episode, which is going to be great.

00:56:55 ◼   ► We're rating each month of 2022 based on our famous Voorhees

00:56:59 ◼   ► scale.

00:57:00 ◼   ► I don't need to remind the regular listeners how

00:57:02 ◼   ► that goes, but it goes like this.

00:57:06 ◼   ► At the bottom, you have, of course, Worst I Hate You,

00:57:09 ◼   ► Awful, Awful Plus, just below average, just above average,

00:57:14 ◼   ► Believe, Believe Max, and then at the very top, Dream.

00:57:18 ◼   ► I believe we might have an illustration of it.

00:57:20 ◼   ► - Yes, there is, I'll put it in the show notes.

00:57:23 ◼   ► There's one month that is definitely a worst I hate you.

00:57:26 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:57:27 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:57:28 ◼   ► - But there's also some Dream.

00:57:30 ◼   ► I think there's some chances for some Dreams in there too.

00:57:32 ◼   ► It's possible.

00:57:33 ◼   ► - I think so, I think so.

00:57:33 ◼   ► You get a little, a Dream month is always good to have

00:57:35 ◼   ► in the midst of all the worst I hate yous.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean the three of us sadly won't be live here next week, but we'll have a pre-recorded

00:57:45 ◼   ► Connected episode ready to go.

00:57:48 ◼   ► And the triple J will be back on Connected in 2023, we promise.

00:57:52 ◼   ► Of course.

00:57:53 ◼   ► I'd like to say thanks again to John for being here.

00:57:56 ◼   ► Oh, thanks for having me.

00:57:58 ◼   ► And thank you, Jason, for coming along as well for the ride.

00:58:01 ◼   ► Thank you, and thank you to James.

00:58:02 ◼   ► I'm going to wrap it around, even though James tried to subvert the Constitution and destroy

00:58:07 ◼   ► everything.

00:58:08 ◼   ► managed to make it through this episode and of course you can send us your

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00:58:27 ◼   ► want and get an ad-free version of the show with a little extra. This week we

00:58:32 ◼   ► We are going to be bringing back the classic Connected Q&A segment as we always do, answering

00:58:41 ◼   ► questions in the Pro Show.

00:58:42 ◼   ► But otherwise, thanks to everybody out there for listening to another episode of Connected.

00:58:46 ◼   ► I've been Jason Snell, they've been James Thompson and Jon Voorhees.

00:58:50 ◼   ► Say goodbye, guys.

00:58:51 ◼   ► Bye.

00:58:52 ◼   ► Adios.

00:58:53 ◼   ► See you later.

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