00:00:00 ◼ ► not only did we just talk last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► because we're recording this episode a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► week ahead of time for the holiday break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► not only that but I've heard you guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► my headphones all day with every last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► night so fast I can get published today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► I'm leaving town tomorrow right so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► that was so I basically it's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► just living with you now which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► of cool what you know you you're my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► friend so it works out well but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► certainly have heard a lot of you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/24">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► last twenty-four John Craig siracusa i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/25">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► have received a hundred and fifty-eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► friggin emails today thanks to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► tweet yeah thanks a lot John first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► all I told you about that was gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/38">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► this and so you get a little yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► you never said that you were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► solicit the speed back the freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► email i was hoping you would be via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/45">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► Twitter well so here I guess I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► I was gonna listen to feedback marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/49">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► was like how we can do it five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/50">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► before but now you can do five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► for going to collect this stuff so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/53">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► I wanted to do was use this piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► software called back channel it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/57">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► back chandana NL which I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► like a domain and i'll just go to back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/61">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► champs on Ellen and just use it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► they say what you like SurveyMonkey or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► the million other places where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► go to do some you know single-purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► thing with the web app or i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/71">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► point people to a weird URL and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► go here and into your questions and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► people both the questions up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► what I mean like with it what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► URL bat ba ck c h KN Darnell Darnell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/79">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► it's not a URL like I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► URL because gonna take this doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► what is actually is a software project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► it's a PHP thing I think there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► I was gonna like install PHP thing who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► would write but anyway I what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► looking for is a simple way for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► to enter questions and other people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► vote them with some reasonable control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► so cool she wouldn't do it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► new ones for whatever number they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► the votes column and then we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► back through the history to see you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/108">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► it's all pointless read it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► worked but we know how I feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► and so I said about short notice I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► just gonna tweet it and we'll just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► the feedback form which will provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► some semblance of uniformity and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► we're hoping most of you I will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► through that and that people read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► the stuff that says we're going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► blah blah blah and I think it worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► pretty well what we'll find out how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► work tomorrow if they followed the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► important all caps instruction which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► today only tomorrow if we get another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► hundred questions then you know well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► I'm telling you there's no dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► actually this is a good idea people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► it like in three weeks and being still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► be telling us things because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► all right go to it that the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► you can do you do that is the smartest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► Marco I think you've ever said in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► entire life but then after after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► wanted him five or you should go with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► to pick up my m5 those are always good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► with that but actually Tiffany got a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► oh really yeah it was like the lease was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► up and we had we just got the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► again the 340g yeah i didn't i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► realize you'd actually ordered it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► remember you being in in conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► I didn't know you had pulled the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► the best thing about this i can finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► close like four browser tabs the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► oh yeah right John was that whole window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► yeah the window with those tabs in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/191">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► disclosure I did go on a tacky like tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► tonight i have had a holiday gathering I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► would not say I've had a holiday party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► so just let me know that I have a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► holiday get-together on my desk as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/204">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► we'll see how this goes from Belgium I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► had a glass of water in a dogfish al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/208">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► restaurant I guess all their cups for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► company is the marker likes the the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► yeah I don't have a sponsor the place or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► whatever but yeah those were the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► you could at least got a sprite Joan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► I deleted that tweet so the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► thank you i'm looking at my red badge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► my ldap a hundred nine you damned yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► I got to be honest i have read almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► none of the questions that came in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► email because I've been I I've had such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► a busy day that I didn't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► read a hundred and fifty knew him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► normally get right we'll get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► portion of the show eventually i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/249">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► really explain it or explain it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► case may be it to both of you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► audience let's get started so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► start with some follow-up a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► is corroborated what we had theorized on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► the last episode he says no I'm quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► airpot lightning port is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► same as the iPhone port everybody chill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► well you know the iphone 7 that shown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► this picture comes with the big fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► cable the covers over the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/275">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► just like we discussed that show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► the fat one actually does cover it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► know em for the headphones anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► guess for the charging thing it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► and I think it's a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► noticeable on the air pots because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► everything is all white shiny plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► plastic thing into it and then it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► a little bit poking out on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► iphone i imagine people have noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► this before and you know that the ledges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► poke out past the thing but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► internet being what it is this picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► which many people have posted similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► things didn't stop people they said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► you know what that means that means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► iphone 7 must be USBC to change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► you can't stop the conspiracy theorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► anyway it just looks like this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► lighting parts look like people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► sometimes the plastic part doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► extend all into the end of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► opening also i'd like to acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► that we have we finished recording the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► last episode 26 hours ago 25 hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► something like that and we did indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► have one piece of follow-up amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► well people are fast and it could've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► been real-time follow-up if we were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► little bit you know this was 11 i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► the post 1144 am today but I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► somebody in the chatroom said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► indeed alright moving on are we going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► gianmarco you really want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► so do you everybody does who doesn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► slightly do alright let me sit back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/355">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► alright let's get started so mark urman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► wrote a post on Bloomberg which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► obviously works now why it's entitled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► how Apple alienated Mac loyalists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► premise of the article whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► you like the article the premise of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► article is you know if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► the mac is kind of an also-ran it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► of a it's it's the tag along in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► Apple's portfolio and it's becoming more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► importance to apple than it ever has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/398">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► interesting factoids which i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► we'll get into about why the mac does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► does not matter there's some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► facts that actually may not be accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► as told to us by some little birdies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► about whether or not the software teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► were realigned or or misaligned or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► generally differently aligned in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► effort to make the things for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► better or worse it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► i am i'm not sure what to make of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► but i'm curious to hear what the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► you have to say so since I've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► from the last episode let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► john-john what you think about this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► yeah i think it's like one there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► one piece of new ish rumor going to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► you information but they are no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► information new rumor the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► only thing as far as I can recall having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► read this thing up let's go now that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► in there and that was the story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► how the new macbook pros one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► things that that Apple looked into is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/469">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► having differently shaped batteries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► basically find find more places to shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► battery in the thing and it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► that the same as the scalp batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► because that would make sense because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/479">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► it's not it's not tapered but instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► just having a couple rectangles have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► been to the nice rectangle parts having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► more oddly shaped batteries they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► battery and that didn't work out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► article and so they went with the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► boring shape battery which meant less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► battery richmond less battery life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► article i think is just a summary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/504">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► the cranky mac users stuff that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► podcast for a long period including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► bit that a lot of people i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► was in the parking lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► going on like that Apple is this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► the apple doesn't have a dedicated macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► base group anymore it yes it says about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► hardware right I'm and that's unless I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► missing some detail that is not in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► article and again it would help if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► article acknowledge the thing about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► say and clarified it for me but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► unified software under Craig a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► ago like there used to be someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► are in iOS and someone who ran Makka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► eventually I was 10 and mac OS those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► combined right and so it's not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► now if they mean okay so that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► but now i actually really even within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► bifurcation I think the article should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► have acknowledged the past thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► said now I know what you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► didn't they already do that when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► put Craig federighi tried everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► no even then they were still to separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► the gardens and say that so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► quite what to think that'd be the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► don't see that as a big deal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► unifying all software and all OS efforts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► under a single group makes sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► more than having them be walled off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► essentially the same plus or minus you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► individual platform and there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► here between them and so many api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► things that go between them like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► extension mechanism xbc and just that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► makes perfect sense to not have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► walled off into like this is the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► group and this is the Mac os10 group and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► occasionally they cooperate so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► see that as a particular newsworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► either and i also don't understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► it means that most of the team's iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► first I mean they're working on iOS i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► working on it because it is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► important operating system is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► younger bond and that has the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► the changes that is changing the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► and you know like but what does it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► to be iOS vs if the entire most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► are iOS first I don't know that this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► enough information to get worked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► about and so unless there's some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► nuance that were missing here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► wasn't included the article i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► say yeah so the groups are combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► not a big deal i'll let Marco say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► he thinks about this first but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► one reason i wanted to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► that is doesn't have to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► specifics of the article except to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► that this is a thing now that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► publication feels like they need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► a mac malaise article where they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► about either cranky mac users or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► failing those mac users or both and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► story about how the mac is fading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► stuff like that so that is the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► for that kind of article and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► yeah i mean i honestly don't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► to say about this specific article i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► obviously as we all know have a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► say about the topic of the state of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► mac and and apple seemingly neglecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► things that I care about but I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► particular article as is typical with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► Markham articles contains a few solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► new you know stated facts whether to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► regard we don't know but stated as fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► you know if you knew information bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► but then this whole narrative around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► that is questionable and and of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► less credibility you know German has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► very good sources for facts but he often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► gets the story and the narrative wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► or the reasons wrong so we have to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► everything that everything in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► feelings or what they you know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► think or whatever why do things take all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► that with a grain of salt because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► you know that could all be completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► bogus or at least misleading or or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► distinction or detail so what we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► work with here you know john darnell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► like there's not a lot of new stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► and and then the stuff that is new like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► that they tried potentially terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► batteries in the 20 2016 9 macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► yeah it's not that interesting if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► would a cram but more battery into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► would have been heavier batteries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► heavy empty gaps around the square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► batteries are very lightweight so if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► if they would have like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► reasons this laptop is so pleasant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► use is that it is noticeably lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► than the previous one if it was less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/767">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► then it wouldn't be as good of an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► so that's kind of a non-story with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► they tried these different battery in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► and you know they tried lots of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► and there's a reason why not everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► ships and you know that that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► important that was another one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► stories they had was about the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► that they had a bigger one and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► and they want the skinny one but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► but again the conclusion like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► they you know they picked the latter one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► and then you know the the engineers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► less time to figure out how to cram all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/799">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► the electronics into the thin one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► the idea that they did the the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► companies working is trying bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► different approaches then eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► pick one and then the the narrative that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► just leaves the engineer scrambling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► get the final one done like welcome to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► apple yeah that approach that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► trying multiple ideas IIIi first I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► think its new look underneath all jony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► ive's black cloths and as things got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► tons of you know that right tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► stuff and then eventually pick one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► there's lots of time pressure to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► so on and so forth but I'm it again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► you're going to make this argument you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► have to add more has to be like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► a thing you know in the past they did X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► and the results were why now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► doing Z and the results are cute like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► that you need need something to tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► together instead of just saying they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► this thing and this is what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► literally every other piece of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► they made in the past 10 years or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► the same the articles and saying one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► or the other were led to believe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► a nefarious terrible thing that two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► possible approaches to a product we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► done one of them didn't work out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► picked one and then it was a it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► difficult task to get that one done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► time were led to believe that is a sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► that I don't know that they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► about the mac i mean if anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► care about Marcus they're doing twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► the work and throwing half of it away is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/870">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► yeah I I feel like I feel like German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► really he got a few good fact and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► really wanted to tell this story and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► he he kind of shoved the fact into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► story he wanted to tell but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► all make good sense it is not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► it isn't it isn't a great fit in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► cases and and it's honestly you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► to pick on government too much because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► pretty much every journalist I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► had any dealings with has done exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► the same kind of thing you know the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► the story is usually decided up front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► found supported and you know I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► own theory about what the narrative is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► for the the problems that the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► having inside of apple and a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► lines up with this so like I i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► agree with this I want to believe it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► the fact is there's very few facts here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► to support the story and especially very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► few new facts so the larger point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► wanted to make about this whole topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► something I keep in mind every time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► discuss it and and in general is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/930">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► well we fast-forward 20 years and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► back and realize that what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► happening during this period is that pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► and desktop computing is slowly fading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► away as a thing if you are a fan of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/951">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► type of thing as we are during the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► when it was fading away i'm not sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► would feel any differently than we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► about Apple doing this stuff now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► between Apple not prioritizing the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► and that being the wrong thing to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/973">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► us being you know indignant and angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► and telling Apple you should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► this but you're doing that instead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► you're making a mistake and it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► important for you to this role these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► reasons you know someone so forth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► kind of like why Apple should have a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► pro which I wrote a thing about a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► of Marco recently and you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► the needs of our users are over it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► don't think it would feel any different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► from our perspective if we're right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► like it feels the same either way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► and I keep that in mind because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► like I mean doesn't really change i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► attention to the mac but every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► while I have a moment of clarity and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► well say Apple is doing exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► right thing and we are yelling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► screaming and trying to tell them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► the wrong thing I don't it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► for me to like to distinguish those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► scenarios and out i mostly disagree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► they are doing the right thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► they're doing the wrong thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► something is not for a second the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► part i take you know set that thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► experiment leave it over there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► let's say Apple is right and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► technology that the product in a style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► of working and everything is fading from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► view it will die with us because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► at last group of people who ever going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► to care about this crap and actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► right thing travel to do is to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► of it in that case I still have one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► thing left to complain about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► playing complain to apple about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► that's that if that if they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► believe that they should be honest about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► it they should they should hasten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► transition they shouldn't string us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► along with a series of platitudes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► we talked about last time like we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► great desktops and the imac is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► desktop are really dedicated to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► and we love the mac and i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► complicated by the fact that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► doesn't speak with one voice it is a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► know especially after jobs is gone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► a company made up of a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► and I think there are people inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► Apple probably phil schiller probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► even Craig very who feel the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► about the mac is we do only they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► inside the company right so when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► make statements like oh we think the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► is really important and we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► dedicated to the mac and blah blah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► think that's the truth then they believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► it right and to the extent of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► power exists inside Apple they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► to make that happen but it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► opinion is not universal throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► company and may not be the position that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► eventually win so we end up with this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► company that perhaps is it has rightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► like in the worst-case scenario for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► that the company has rightly seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► computing is a relic and it needs to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► away but instead of saying that instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► of saying like i said last time instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► of saying I laptop to the future there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► no more desktops and the mac is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► be no more pretty soon it's a legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► platform as many of the scary articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► have said the future is iOS we know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► painful but it's going to happen sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► instead of saying that every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► there's any crankiness about it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► their customers they say reassuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► things they say all don't worry like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► know it seems like we don't care but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► totally do it super important we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► the mac blah blah blah and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► proceeded to you know their actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► don't back that up big time and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► their actions you know give us something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► throw a little crumb our way and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► leave us hanging early know that the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► pro the trash can like they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► and then left saying for three years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► now we're not getting much of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► from the mac these days very far less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► frequent updates updates that are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► satisfying traditional mac users and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► just get some you know random platitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► dinosaurs and we are the last generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► of people thats ever going to care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► this type of computing and it will fade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► apple is not handling it the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► and if it turns out that actually this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► way of computing is not going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► the temple is definitely not hailing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► right way as discussed many times in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► past but anyway that's that's the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► I want to make all this type of articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► is that if like us you are upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► the mac you always have to think that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► could be that you are relatively you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► the apple to user saying the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► never gonna be the future you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► real work done on the mac apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► forever right or any other thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► paint over any other analogy buggy-whip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► salesman you know horse vs. automobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► whatever whatever you wanna even radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► vs television you know movies i put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► you know the internet vs everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► came before it basically sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► you're in that group that is being left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► behind and if if you are it looks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► feels exactly the same as if the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► rest of the world is doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► terribly wrong you're the only one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► knows about it and unfortunately it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► difficult to say which way which way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► things are going to go until later so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► five years from now 10 years from now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► think we'll have much more clarity about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you know what it whether whether we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► ended up being right or wrong but either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► way right now I think making apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► Miss handling things in one direction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► another so John as somebody who was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► one point a ipod touch devotee g when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► did you when did you know that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► not the right way forward when did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► know that the ipod touch was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► i mean i-i think it was more than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► expensive cell phone cell phone plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► right so at what point did you say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► know what the ipod touch is not long for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► this world or alternatively it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► satisfying my needs and it's time to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► an iphone because I feel like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► similar situation right like you seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► have been on the wrong side of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► it seems like the writer answer is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► an iphone person rather than an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► Touch person now apples on the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► side of that one hears that the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► changing from the Apple to the back or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► from the mac to an iOS device the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► touch is an iphone minus the phone part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► like it's the same westroads the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► experience it's not it's not a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► is not different platform is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► different paradigm is not even form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► factor but it's basically the same exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► thing now Apple did stop updating it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► keep pace with the phone stuff but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► was so easy to make that switch was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► I'm not even changing anything like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► it's literally the same thing only now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► there's a phone in it right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► just faster and it's nicer and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► was that was an easy thing to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► reason I think Apple was wrong is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► because that's not a transition there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► no there's no transition from ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► to iphone that Apple needed to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► need to get like the dinosaurs off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► the you know the old platform and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► the same freaking thing they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► decided that it wasn't as important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► well I don't want to say they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► because they're probably right in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► of volume because i'd probably sell way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► more phones and those things who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► whatever but i want to say about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► being wrong is there was no strictly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► speaking there was no strategic reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► to migrate people off the ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► because it's not like a legacy platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► it is the current platform it runs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► current version of the OS it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► getting people into the iOS ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► there's nothing about it that is counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► to their broad strategy it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► know doesn't sell as much and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► can justify the investment being updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► or whatever so in that respect they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► probably right but in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► having done the opposite they would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► have been making a strategic mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► they just update that in lockstep with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► the rest of the iphones like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► done before everything would be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► they would be selling anymore ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► touches their ipod touch customers may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► be a little bit happier know about buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► buddy buddy you're right that is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► similarity that has is when they stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► updating it frequently enough and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► saw that if I really want the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► iOS device available or anything even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► park the only choice that has an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► that's when I had to switch and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► said it was easy because it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► it's the same thing as the same platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► it's the same software everything turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► off so market what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► all this i mean you've been stunningly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► quiet I i know you have some thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► here so late on me and I almost don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► know where to begin at that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► pick up i also don't care you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► graphs of the I about the ipod touch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► but the whole story about about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► going on with the mac I care very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► much about its it's hard to know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► disorganized like most of what i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► what bothers me about the discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► around this and about seemingly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► position on this by they're mostly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► action around a lot of the mac product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► line and the mac OS honestly is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► know it's to pull up the old Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► amazingly fitting analogy because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► know cars and trucks are not computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► and phones like that's that's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► doesn't fit incredibly well but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► enough parallels with what he was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► that that I think it's worth really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► going out for a second in trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► explain how I feel the way I feel as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► as a not only as a Mac user but as a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► pro user really Apple is like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► manufacturer in the world of decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► trucks and they discovered a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► ago that cars are more profitable and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► they've decided you know what we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► hardly gonna update trucks anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► we're just gonna not make the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► ones anymore and you know most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► don't need the biggest ones but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► people do and what if it takes 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► to develop a good truck making company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► so I i know this analogy is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► stretched to hell and it is like long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► God and I'm abusing the crap out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► however Apple is abandoning parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► market for which there is no substitute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► for what Apple has been making and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► there are abandoning it the neglecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► it and they might be abandoning it soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► and everyone says you know the the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► excuse errs who here discussion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► computers for you or this product just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► isn't for you anymore they don't care to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► satisfy your needs anymore but to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► degree like it isn't that simple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► these needs will continue to exist like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► people who who need max period to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► their work and people who need high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► max also know or certain like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► high-end software and hardware needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► those needs continue whether Apple feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► like addressing them or not but if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► has been addressing them all these years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and then stops that leaves those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► really screwed like with nothing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► it isn't usually a simple as jumping to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► windows like unless unless what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► is as i described you know what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► the service studio got two episodes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► you know if what you do is primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► like in in one adobe creative suite app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► or something like that where like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► it's an app available on both platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► and that's most of what you do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► for for your computer needs for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► computer whatever like if they took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► workstation or if it's a studio computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► whatever that's a different story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► for people who can only use the whole OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► and you know integrated ways multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► software package maybe software that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► only available on that OS you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► like I'll just start using windows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► no it isn't that simple and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► lot of like investment both in not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► software that you buy but also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► they're ready custom software that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► developed for this OS that doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► on the other OS or if your developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► like you've built your software library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► your codebase your customer base all on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► this OS so jump just tell people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► use windows like that's not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► answer if Apple stops addressing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► market in many cases those people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► just completely out of luck and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► there seems to be this like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► design virus like it's that this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► like cult of saying no as a feature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► it's almost as though like when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► people back you know back when like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► I started really ripping off apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► heavily that is steve was still alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► for that part the way people rip off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► apple would basically be like to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► some kind of superficial quality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► Apple products have like oh everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► is like rounded and has blue you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► bulbous colors on whatever and it has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► you know it removes ports or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► like they would they would take some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► kind of super quality and just apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► understanding why that was done that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► and without understanding that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► trade-offs involved and sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► shouldn't do things that way and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► you know basically copying like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► replicating it without understanding why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► I almost feel like that's how Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► designing their own product line now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► like kind of repeating the old just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► guess we can make it thinner because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► we're also going to do I guess we remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► supports because that's the future in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► quotes but it's almost like they've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► track of why it's so why is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► worth moving things why it sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► isn't and it's it's like they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► no or removing things for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► saying no removing them and this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► of permeating now the Apple commentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► culture right now I'm kind of assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► that everything that apple takes away or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► makes worse is for the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► inevitable and it's it's universally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► good thing of course that the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this was this was progress and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► apply that same thinking too when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► basically cuts off somebody's needs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► so well that I guess they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► feel like serving you anymore or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► not worth serving and by the way for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► company where like you have quarterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► results that keep going down and product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► lines that that the seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► growth is being problematic for you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► not sure it's the wisest move in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► world to throw away market share that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► you've hard that you earn hard over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► last decade or two like to tell somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► your needs are not worth surfing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► a big slap in the face to them and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► doesn't leave people happy with apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► likely to buy a lot of other apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► and so they're literally throwing away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► market share with everything they cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► neglect or change for the worse or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► choose not to address you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► literally throwing away market share and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► in in a market like the pc market where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► market share is hard to come by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► there's not a ton of growth happening of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► the whole market the market as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► that's kinda the opposite of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► should be doing really like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► should be trying to address more needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► with the mac not fewer anyway going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► to more than the more general stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► I worried now that Apple does the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► and also commenting on the the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► commenters all seem to support this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► notion unquestioningly that removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► things and making things quote simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► people's needs and what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that that's universally a good thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► I think that deserves more critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► thinking at Apple I think that deserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► more pushback and because sometimes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► is the right answer but not every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► and it really does seem like Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► lost the ability to tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► what do you think about what I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► before about how from the inside it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► difficult to distinguish between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► situation that you just drive in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► situation where Apple's actually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► and they're just not there being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► they're not being honest maybe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► themselves even but certainly not with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► us about the fact that we're moving away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► from it like you think you could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► the difference from our perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► whether whether we're just being left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► behind and it's painful or whether we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► I honestly I'd i don't know i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► any way to know that you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► look at the market there is a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► trend that Mobile is up and pc-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► os's including Mac OS are down right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► and that you know things things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► know like web browsing share you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► that going going way towards mobile now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► like it's obvious that's like wherewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► usage percentages are going I'm not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► convinced that it is inevitable that p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► see style computing is going to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► or even be incredibly marginalized and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► don't think those are necessarily Givens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► I would be very surprised if either of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► those happened actually and great i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► wrong all the time so this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► gonna happen next year I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► what I what I see is a lot of common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► tasks moving two phones and tablets sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► that's that's fine phones tablets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► wonderful things i think obviously i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► think the phone is the way better thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► but you know we we live in abundance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► cool that's fine but i think what we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► is that even the most dedicated people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► who love using iPads for all their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► for instance still almost all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► have a mac because there's like one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► two or ten things that you need the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► to do that iOS not only can't do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► probably won't ever do I don't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► any change on the horizon that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► to change that like so I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► going to kind of like settle in where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► you know right now there's like a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► going in a certain direction i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► it's going to kind of look more like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► asymptotic curve then like a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► line where it's going to flatten and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► plateau and and like there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► a certain baseline usage that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► will just need pc-style computers and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► oasis to do this chunk of common tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► because the pc / and again i use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► word pc here I really do mean both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► windows and mac pcs and I refer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► pc style operating system that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► as opposed to like iOS and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► especially iOS which is really more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► mean the way iOS works is almost way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► game console works these days like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► very much like console computing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► you have like everything is very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► locked down much more proprietary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► have much less control as the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► there's much less potential for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► messing around or customization or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► hacking things or or using like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► be no tools that can hook into the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► and provide cool functionality there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► almost none of that or very little of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► that and then the pc style operate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► system allows you to basically install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► whatever you want and the programs can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► do to a large degree whatever they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► and of course that comes with good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► bad there's a lot of security issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► with that however ultimately what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► allows us for the pc to be a way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► more customizable work environment it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► allows you to address needs that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► platform ender never imagined and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► allows it to basically fill in all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► the holes so that there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► like you know what we call edge cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► which is it has become a bad word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► some reason there's all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► that we have to do and I'm not and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► I also want to be really clear here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► like thinking that these edge cases only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► applied to geeks and the geeks are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► small market both of those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► geeks are freaking huge market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► everyone needs to do these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► so anyway pc-style operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► fill in these gaps in it they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► most versatile software ecosystems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► can ever exist like that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► existed you know iOS and the lockdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► kind of console computing model that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► provides is very nice in a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► ways but one thing it really isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► versatile it's capable you can do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► of things but it's not versatile and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► so there are so many needs that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► can either only be done on PCOS is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► are just so ridiculous to do in iOS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► you would rather eat your only really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► will ever wanted to my pc is this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► that I don't see changing I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► some kind of massive shift on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► horizon where iOS is going to suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► allow you to like hook in and provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► your own battery widget in the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► bar and allow apps to talk to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► more directly and share files more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► directly i don't see that a that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► ruin iOS in a lot of ways so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► always going to be massive types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► things that are really only possible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► PCOS and the percentage of time that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► need to do one of those things Mike will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► probably continue to shrink over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► but I don't think those needs are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► away so i don't foresee a future in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► which a lot of people who have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► needed a pc will stop needing a pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► completely they might use it less they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► might replace it less often we see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► now but they're still going to use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► so for Apple to completely neglect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► was not doing yet they're completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► neglecting it there they're partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► basically slowly let that die i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► incredibly unwise and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► threatens their dominance in their more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► profitable markets because part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► reason that people love iphone so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► is that a lot of people although but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► lot of people who both use and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► iphones and also who influence other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► people to use and buy iphones lot of mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► users so if the mac starts to whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► dies a lot of those people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► start looking around and consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► different phone platforms as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► because a lot of the advantage using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► iphone is how to integrate well with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► not all of it again this is represent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► everyone who buys an iphone obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► it's a much bigger market but like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► is a non-trivial size group and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► completely throw away everything they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► built with mac OS which is amazing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► goodwill of all these millions of users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► that they've built up over decades i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► think is an incredible strategic error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► not to mention the tragedy it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► those of us who use pcs which is nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► everybody those of us who use pcs see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Apple leaves or effectively neglects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► this market there's nothing better left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► windows is not good we we can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► get x and windows but it's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► linux is really not made for this i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► you can kind of wedge it in there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► doesn't do a great job of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► desktop OS and it's yeah it serves a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► of many fewer needs mac OS is the cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► to meet you no one's gonna come along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and just make another mac OS like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► it but that takes 20 years and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► good talent and really good direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► and really opportunities that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► probably not going to happen ever again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and personal computers or at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► our lifetimes so Apple is some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► like is somebody Twitter and I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► forget who are now somebody to said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► earlier that they almost have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► social responsibility to the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► computing to to keep making mac OS x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► disney dad's go that's going way too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► honest is it yes you know what I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► steve jobs agree with that statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► maybe I mean who knows but Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► loved computers and even when new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► came out he loved computers and he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► think I mean I don't know him but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► think that's the kind of thing he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► have agreed with his whole thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► the glass water and how the glass water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► and how like I really do think that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► saw it as like his responsibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► bring good computer into the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► apple still does that with iOS certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► and the mac is still good for now but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► is very very clear that the mac is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► being given the priority and resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► it's very clear that whatever its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► whatever level of resources and priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► is getting now is enough to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► steve ballmer the mac line like it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► it'll be it'll make some money will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► profitable but the ship it won't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► to turn because that takes more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► what they're giving it and so if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► when the market turns into something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► whether that's VRA our type stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► whether that is something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► surface studio or who knows what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► will come along the way whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► going to be the next big change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► pc-style hardware and software i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► almost guarantee that apple will miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► I can almost guarantee that mac OS will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► fall behind because they are simply not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► giving it enough thought and priority to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► to make it stay on top of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► they're doing well now because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► they had such a big leader windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► so many areas for so long but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► that leads going to go away it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► well because Microsoft is not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► things but eventually something big is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► going to come to the world of pcs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► people want that that day that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► shift to an apple will not be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► the absolutely will not be ready and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► they will totally miss it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► when they will lose the mat completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► right now it seems like they're ok with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► that outcome because of their act their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► actions whatever they say their actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► say that they are ok with that outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► that's a huge mistake respond to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► week again by kokhon go to cocom use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► code ATP to say fifty percent on tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► for yosemite and Chicago kokhon is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► developers and designers it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► next year on marks 20th through 23rd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► comic-con will be returning to yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► national park 1st 3rd Yosemite event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► this is again held the assembly let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► national in the USSR this is again held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► at the Assembly lodge at the Falls right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► in the heart of national park it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► beautiful picturesque venue in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► there's even a guided photowalk led by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► 10 photographer James dr. Davidson who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► is both an awesome photographer and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► super nice guy and they have amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► Hornstein Brent Simmons daniel steinberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► David Smith Georgia dau Jamie Newberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► personally I have seen almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► these people speak they are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► they're top of their field i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► recommend that you go to this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► can also get music from james Dempsey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► the breakpoints and by our theme song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► author Jonathan song a day man I've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► seen both of these acts and they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► both amazing so this is a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► event in an amazing location yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► national park right it's this beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► beautiful park its cave described it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► all this is with these great speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you got to see it go to koat.com use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► code ATP to see fifty percent tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► for yosemite and also they have a coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► on chicago event happening in April 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► 22nd that will also use that fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► percent with the code to be on that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► so check it out cocom for yosemite in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► march and chicago in april use code atps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► you're much to cook on for sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► once again so I don't know what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► for maybe five years ago there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► this magazine that was called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► magazine and that's what I pitched I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► pitched a story to the magazine about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► transmission and much to my dismay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► was refused because somebody else has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► already had already basically claimed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► story on the manual transmission as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► turns out that story was by the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► damn more'n who as it turns out wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► much better story than mine and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► forget to link in the show notes but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► version of the story is on my old tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► blog somewhere that that you can dig up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► transmission on a modern car means a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► tremendous amounts of me and I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► that to be funny I don't say that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► hyperbolic way I genuinely mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► like I I will be devastated when there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► comes a time that the only car that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► i can buy with a manual transmission is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► one that I don't want say for example a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► pickup truck and and i'm not saying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► pickup is is wrong for other people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► it's not the kind of car that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► it's an edge case you can just ignore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► I know you're being snarky but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► not your hands right in i'm not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► those are popular selling vehicle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► wow I I see your point i it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► connected excellent analogy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► pickup truck to the kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► most people never think about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► they're actually everywhere and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► people needed to do their jobs and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► oh yeah you're right and in in you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► right that is pretty good analogy but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► ruins my whole story so ignore it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► to fremont but at the point of driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► four-door passenger car with three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► pedals in it that's what i want and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► me driving a car with only two pedals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► is not enjoyable in in some ways I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► it's a little bit unsafe and I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► lot of people are going to disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► that with that that's fine but it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► that's not for me i don't care for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► and until I cannot anymore i will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► choose cars that have that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► manually-operated clutch that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► want that's what I'm interested in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► that's what i will do until I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► as in my left leg is broken or or I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► down a limb somewhere whatever all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► that said I don't think there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► question that i am one of the few and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► that the rest of the world not only is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► overblown but i'll stick with it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► miracle that you can buy a 3 series BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► with a six-speed it's a miracle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► Tina was able to get a six speed record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► in 2016 and it's clear that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► John had to go through some hoops to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► it's not like you pulled it off a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► it's not like they shipped in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► Connecticut or New York or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► like that it was built specifically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► you because nobody else wanted that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► clear to me that driving a manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► transmission is not long for this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► but why i love it in so many ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► think it's better but the fact of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► matter is I'm one of a very very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► breed and in and i'm one of a group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► is going away and ever-increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► numbers look at the take rate of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► manual transmission on m3 and m4 their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► plummeting the only reason that the m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► the most recent m5 f10 itself time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► the only reason the f10 m5 got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► anyway uh the only reason the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► modern five had a manual transmission it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► was because of Americans of all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► which is really weird and and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► only in America if I believe that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I'm i factor I think we got this North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► America right right so nobody else seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► transmission in to be honest on paper in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► my most metrics the transmission that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► Marcos m5 had is better it's better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► pretty much every measurable way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► I'm gonna be really freaking pissed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► whenever i buy my next car 50-50 shot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► won't be able to get a six speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► admittedly i got used which to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► degree makes things a lot worse but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► took me something like six months to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► find this car because to find to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► 335 with the m-sport package and why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► hard way that wasn't a criteria a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► jerk have to find a 335 to happen to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► it did is like all your other cars now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► the other ones were delivered this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► was an accident anyway the point is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► find one with the m-sport package that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► was really difficult but to find any 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► series with a six-speed get out of town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► because you're going to be waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► it's impossible but here it is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► what i want and that's what's right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► I don't care if it's not right for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► it's what's right for me but the fact of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► the matter is I'm a dying breed I'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► of few and i cannot expect BMW to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► forevermore cater to captain Casey it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► it's not profitable it's not manageable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► all that being said i love the mac hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► on heart I cannot begin to describe how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► much i love the mac i feel so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► faster on the mac that I do on iOS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► doesn't mean I can't do equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► things on iOS in most cases but i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► the mac i feel hamstrung when I'm on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► iOS device I feel crippled i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► that's not the case for everyone clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► people like federico in in my curly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► so many other people have done amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► things on iOS I'm not trying to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► iOS is right or good or great or amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► for me it is not the right answer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► of the mac i feel at home on the Mac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► feel free on the mac and yes that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► really ridiculous and lame and in kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► of granola but I know it doesn't free on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► the Mac I really do feel free on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► i agree with you Marco that I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► devastated if the mac goes away but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► more I look around and the more I i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► the people around me the more clear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► is that I am NOT one of the many i'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► of the few and at some point at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► point I'm the this group that loves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► manual transmission this group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► loves mac OS isn't going to be big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► enough to really freaking matter anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► and I I will be devastated i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► word I use that were deliberately i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► be friggin devastated when that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► maybe not as much as is you too but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► not really damn close because as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► I beat the to you up about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► really convention about the mac and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► state of the mac and this is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► agree with you i want the back to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► for ever but to me it's becoming more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► and more clear that I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► have a manual transmission much longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► and i'm not convinced but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► terribly sure that I'm gonna have a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► much longer and i think the reality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► the situation is all three of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► just gonna have to come to grips with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► that and it doesn't make me happy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► doesn't make me smile it makes me really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► damn sad not to the point that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► losing sleep over John but it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► really damn sad and and I hope that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► god I hope I'm wrong but at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► all three of us need to look around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► say you know what we aren't the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► that matter anymore and i look at I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► at aaron who is by every measure a far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► more human more normal human than I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► it every measure pull away and I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► her and I think to myself she has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► macbook air and yes it went under water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► twice but nevertheless it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► today with anything to clarify for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► listeners who forgot it was Casey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► absolutely my fault but she is she very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► rarely uses her back care why because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► I gave her that i gave her by old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► ipad with the the first retina iPad was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► that the third-generation ipad doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► get that I gave her my old iPad she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► never touched because her phone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► enough for her and I think that for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► people that's pretty much the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► maybe not at work but in Aaron's case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► she's a stay-at-home mom so that is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► work actually come to think of it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► lot of people they don't need max now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► take tip for example tiff is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► stay-at-home mom but she has other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► things that she does and she absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► without a shadow of a doubt mesa max I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► not trying to say this is universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► but I take Aaron as an exemplar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► somebody who is normal or a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► normal than i am and she she does have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► mac and she does use her mac but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► told her that her Mac was gone forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► say for example if I dumped a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► water on it I think she'd be okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► none of this makes me happy I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► pleased to say these things but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► summary i think all three of us need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► realize that were part of a four part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► a group that's getting ever smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► that's ever less profitable and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► probably doesn't matter that much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► it totally sucks but it's reality you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► know before I don't know if we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► refute all the things you say because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► think Marco and I could vary but maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► want to have a but but but i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► point out that both of you seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► uninterested in my thought experiments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► i'm assigning with you as a homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► assignment because right now we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► talking about like whether or not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► we think might happen is happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► i'm still more interested at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► in how you would tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► between the two scenarios between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► case scenario where were restrictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► drivers for Apple to users and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► happening to us and the scenario the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► more Marco scenario where Apple's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► something dumb and really they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► supporting the mac because if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► those needs aren't going away and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► not not the specific arguments either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► side of it but how if you are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► middle of it as a Mac user as an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► what should you look for to distinguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► those two situations right and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► sure i'm great answers either but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► think it's something more thing about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► as a homework assignment i suppose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► on the specific stick shift things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► on the Mac I mean like a lobster out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► shrinking like percentage-wise Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► market share the line for mac market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► share in in the you know just in any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► kind of line you want to put overall pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► market share mac sales years reviews it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► looks way better than the stick shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► mine like way better this fictional i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► fell off a cliff years ago mr. basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► and the mac line if you look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► graphs it's boring but it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► steady so regardless of you know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► just in terms of degree you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► totally right about it but in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► degree i'm gonna say that the mac is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► a stick shift situation I mean we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► know it doesn't stay with it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► six-inch situation I would have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► seven different stores and and beg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► people to sell have money i want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► you will you give me that I swear I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► talked to so many dealers they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► everybody want to sell my cbt accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► nobody wanted my money like waving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► dollar bills in their face i have money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► you know I'll do your finance thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► whatever incentives you have all do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► like now now we don't have any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► anyway so we're not the situation yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► and the other thing on the market was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► talking about 11 aspect that would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► show that Apple is screwing this up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► that and this has happened in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► to apple specifically that of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► doesn't fulfill the needs of some market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► and then market is heavily invested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► the mac i mean that can back and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► companies that can really disrupt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► industry but more than any other type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► business people that need computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► pc-style computers for professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► needs are the most willing and able like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► as an industry not as an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► company perhaps but the most willing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► able to bail and go to something else if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► they're using Mac's for video editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► and apples not interested in video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► editing the whole industry will shift to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► a different product on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► platform likes will stop final cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► go to have it or you know same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► with like audio editing applications or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► a little while looks like the mac might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► be a factor but it's like nope windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► NT or at you just as sgr is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► switch from sti's to Windows NT which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► seemed heard of like they'll switch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► if you don't fill their needs and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► still need to do this thing and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► like you're not supporting them anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► everybody and buy all new hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► whole bunch of companies will go out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► business because they won't make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► transition and they'll hate you forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► and they will change and one good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► tell if Apple is you know being smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► than us like if they have been in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► industries and people still need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► professionally edited video on a pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► style workstation and Apple isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► interested in selling the hardware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► works their needs they will switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► windows they absolutely will they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► the people who are dyed-in-the-wool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► companies might go out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► because they can't absorb the cost to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► turn over all the hardware retrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► everybody but the absolutely will switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► and that you know that's a bad sign for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► Apple and my final point no need to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► to the Q&A part and we will my my final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► point is it if there are any Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► people listening I Craig to this spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► important important person inside apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and you're hearing all this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► about you know these three diehard mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► users who are talking as if the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► already dead or talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► possibility and you're like you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► like maybe they disagree with what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► doing with the mac but but like we must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► be you know if you have to steal it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► we what are we doing to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► customers are most loyal customers our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► customers that are love to give us money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► in 10 x max and they think the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► like if you have that feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► there's something has gone terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► wrong it could be one two things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► that you're one of those people inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► Apple that I was just talking about who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► feel the same way about the mac as we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► and it's totally honest and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► they get up on stage and say we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► about the max really important blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► but maybe the rest of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► doesn't agree with you or to the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► company's on the same page of the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► really important and you're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► you're most welcome Sandra this fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► like but you know but pretend it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► truth if it is the truth you're doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► bad job of convincing mac users of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► fact so no matter how you slice this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► something Apple is doing is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► strategically PR y los espiritu's iming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► yet the hidden well that's true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► what specifically specifically on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► issue of how Apple's handling the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► something Apple is doing is wrong it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► just a question of whether the wrong by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► not being honest with us the wrong by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► not being able to convince the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► that really is true or they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► they shouldn't they already emphasizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► the mac and they shouldn't be and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► possible as a kind of up in the air i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► think we've talked about a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► but like something is going wrong here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► as as is true with so many things 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► something has gone wrong respond to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3602">TS</a>]
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01:01:23 ◼ ► ATP thank you very much to audible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► alright John see you've come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► some ground rules about the Q&A section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► which I actually think we're quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► clever so would you like a love those i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► love that you had to have rules are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► going to Q&A but there's gonna be rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► and those rules are mostly for you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► but for listening only to tell for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► I said okay what you don't mean for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► not for the audience for this far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► you're concerned here and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► deal with I we ask questions just today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► questions were supposed to send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► through the email form if you send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► through Twitter you didn't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► I I maybe I didn't specifically say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► don't send the river by totally said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► that's what the colon means it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► that in this anyway we got tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► that's great a lot of people as repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► questions we type in X and Casey picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► question it's probably not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► sometimes I US 17 questions i just took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► to sometimes i rephrase your question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► question and the port the person that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► pick whose name is attached to it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► basically random so this is the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► it's not here it says number the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► we have this is not in a rush in today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► what we're going to try to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► questions because if we didn't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► we would answer two questions total is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► to do them quickly so rather than answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► answer your question thoroughly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► a lot of these questions like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► what's the best thing the Apple did last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► year that's a whole show like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► so with those questions are still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► there and our challenge as the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► who are speaking on this podcast our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► challenge is to go against everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► in our instincts and to try to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► sentences and then move on which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► we're not going to be able to have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► discussion about them but hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► we'll get to more of your questions so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► alright so I i guess i will start the MC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► process and then if somebody else takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► over that's fine we begin with brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► hamilton who asks how long does it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► for Marco to edit an episode I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► to put that aside for just a split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► second just Casey still do is listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► through with the turnaround for episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► has been much faster lately so quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► recap it used to be that I would listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► through each episode in I would mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► when somebody cough Tory crosstalk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► whatever then i would send that list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► timestamps to Marco and he would do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► actual edit i would say between six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► months in a year ago that it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► obvious to both market when I that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► redundant and so I stopped doing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► don't know Marco do you remember when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► don't know maybe halfway through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► show okay so with that said how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► does it take you to edit an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► involved in posting and everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► helps a lot that you do the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► now which I used to do the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► and that it kind of put too much time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► me so like I was having spent longer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► and we're doing back and forth so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► it took way too i have to do my part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► you do your part took forever now total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► editing time is probably about three to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► four hours for a two-hour show which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► a lot of time but doesn't seem terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► yeah and a lot of a lot of that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► because i'm using logic and logic is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► made for this and this is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► reasons i want to make my own editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► because i think if i made my own editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► that was custom optimized for editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► podcasts I think that three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► hours could be one to two hours and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► a lot less mousing and typing all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► i want to elaborate but I'm gonna move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► on Stephen ham asks have you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► sweet home guide to toaster ovens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► think this is mostly meant for John have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► do you agree with their methodology is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► super common question I get it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► Twitter all the time I don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► respond to it because it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► common at this point yes I have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► this we don't got to toaster ovens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► yes i have tried their pic Casey has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► nice blog post that lists all my toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► reviews and if you go to that page which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► is that many people their pictures on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► so you can hear what I have to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► do you agree with their methodology i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► have different priorities for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► the reason i dinged it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► like its it doesn't fit as much stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► it and so that kind of disqualified it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► for like you know being able to put you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► know for big slices of bread or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► in there and the UI was really weird so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► they are they prioritize the UI less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► than i do and the size is not i mean how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► could they make sighs the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► don't know what size toast uni they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► trying to say this thing toast really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► quickly which I said in my review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and really evenly so so yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► thing with any reviews including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► sweet home's you read them to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► information but you also are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► find out what they prioritize and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► prioritize so it's not as if I disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► with anything they did it's just that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► have different priorities and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► hear that in the reviews all right Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► Reinhart asks Marco what apps on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► phone do you have red badges in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► 2000s let's give a little context here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► Marco has made it very clear over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► years and I think you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► having these red badges with counts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► whatnot is kind of ridiculous and stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► inducing so Marco what apps have red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► it's actually a pretty short list the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► two that always have a red badge our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► phone and mail and the reason for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► are basically i suck at responding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► organizational tool which i know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► wrong and with phone I never listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► my voicemail so I have voice mails here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► voicemail is from october third that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► currently have 10 of them so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► you you leave the badge on that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► though you like that would seem like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► reason you turned off because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► meaningless because it's always gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► read right you have never even consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► the possibility I could turn it off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4018">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► guess I'll look into that i also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► one photos right now just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► there's like some shared album probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► from kc that it has something red i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► one on the Apple pod and sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► cool hey I wanted on the Apple podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► after i have a folder of a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► other podcast apps basically as i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► designing overcast I try to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► that I don't rip off other apps too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► closely so like as i'm adding if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► adding a new feature for instance we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► have to design the UI basically go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► check like am I ripping off a competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► you know really clearly here or am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► doing my own thing I want to do my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► so I always have podcast apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► showing their own red badges that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► ask for and then finally I have a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► that shows an unread badge of 1500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► because it is actually underscore David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► Smith pedometer + + app that is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► that as my step count for the day which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► is actually horrible and I just open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► the app it's actually 5800 so i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► everything I everyone i have my phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► either some app that I turned it off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► or a game that doesn't look so that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► asks how did all of you meet initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► online through mac / software channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► or perhaps at a car dealership so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► told this story in bits and pieces but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► don't know that I've ever told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► complete version of the story and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► of that is because I thought it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► of fun to have a little bit of ambiguity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► about how the three of us met but 201 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► episodes and perhaps it's time to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► so mark when I met when we were 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► that sound reasonable something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► my recollection and i'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► chance to interrupt in the second year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Marco I'm my recollection is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► your your mom was a schoolteacher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► for the summers you would go to a lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► in upstate New York and my grandparents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► my dad's parents had a house on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► Lake and it was one of those situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► where we like the only kids that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► anywhere nearby it came to light to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► mutual caregivers that o we have no boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► children around the same age they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► hangout and so we would hang out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► basically right either choose your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► adventure games in vb one or play too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► much transport tycoon just generally be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► nerds and get yelled at to go outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► and then we kind of lost touch for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► long time and around the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► tumblr started or right around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► that we graduated college at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► that's my recollection we got back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► touch and then I visited or well Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► and I at this point actually visited you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► at tumblr and then ended up meeting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► with TIFF and I think this is it was 09 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► yeah and so we got back in touch after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► that and we and we got close again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► know there was never like a screw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► man i hate you it was just we fell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► of touch and so we got close again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► then of course because of that I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► listening build analyzed hypocritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► and then when we when i started going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► WTC in 2011 i ended up meeting John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► through Marco and then John and I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► eventually got to be relatively close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► and then you know the whole story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► mean needling mark kohaykewych to a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► show we should do a car show Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► hey you know we should we get John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► involved because you know John also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► stopped a podcast would probably like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► talk cars and so we sweet we did neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► and then then here we are in on ATP 201 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► as brief as I think I can reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► any thoughts from either of you there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► no thoughts no time for thoughts haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► Cody mins asks questions mostly from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► Marco why do you give stitcher / google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► play music flak for being a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► walled garden but not itunes not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► that not bad for other reasons but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► itunes isn't exactly the Wild West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► question of degree itunes is a directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► once you subscribe to a podcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► itunes the software then goes directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► to the RSS feed every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► download the episodes directly from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► server where you specify the feed 2.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► and itunes is basically out of the loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► after that very first you know browse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► so we're a stitcher and google play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► music are their own entirely proprietary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► crawling playback stats downloading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► platforms and they have you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► you know do all sorts of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► giving up data to them and and agree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► the terms and everything we're itunes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► writers really like you know about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► much of a directory as yahoo was for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► web back in the day like like itunes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► happy to have you go there find what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► want and then itunes is removed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► they're cut out of the loop and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► you're just dealing with the feet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► basically the way Apple those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► with podcast is in support of an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► ecosystem whereas the way stitcher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► whooping music are doing podcasts it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► a completely closed ecosystem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► simply use your RSS feed as input but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► then copies over your audio rehost sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► has everybody just participate within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► that system and its it's more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► cheating off of the open world rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► than what Apple does which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► participating in it and then kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► handing you off to it the other minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► difference that i would add is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► too late for itunes itunes it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► I mean it's a benefit obviously that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► place where you go to find your podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► but it's also problem but it's way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► like that time we got into it I hydrants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► was already there so it is more useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► up-and-comers to say you knew thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► is coming that seems to be worse and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► the way the market is described stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► go away whereas by the time we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► the scenes itunes was already the winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► of where you find podcast if you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► Mac user also like the the itunes as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► directory is that it's actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► nice to have a human monitor directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► in podcasting yeah I said it's a benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► but it's also you know not not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► that one company controls that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► again available decide they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► then then we are left to the Wolves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► mystery google play and stir well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► unfortunately i felt a little thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► the side that has its own directory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► you know kinda it as an insurance policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► against that friend of the show Ryan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► Jones who you heard us talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► earlier today author of whether line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► great weather at my favorite weather at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► it's been five years since Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► died hows Apple doing relative to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► expectations shortly after his death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► challenge I ready right relatives so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► complaining earlier this episode i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► that all things being equal this is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► least meeting my expectations if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► exceeding I think Apple has its problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► but it's doing well and I'm okay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► good job crazy here at Fargo alright i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► think somewhere between healthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► steve ballmer haha that's a big range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► anywhere between maybe like like a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► of the way away from steve ballmer so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► closer to that than healthy but not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► right on top of that and what I mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► that you know Steve Ballmer is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► continue microsoft into very profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► times he's a very good businessman to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► keep things going but he was clearly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► direction that needed to happen and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► the company into that I think Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► has much of the same issue not as badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► i think is a much better leader than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► Steve Ballmer especially you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► lots of ways but especially in product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► in product direction but i still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► he has that problem and i still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► that when the next big things come apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► will miss them and it's just a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► time before that's a big problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► so I think there i'm going to say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► mostly meeting them like if you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► what do you think I'm gonna be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► would describe the scenario very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► to where we are now with the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► that i would I i would have said that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► least one of the few things that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► would try would hit stronger than it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► whether it's the watch your car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► whatever so I think they're slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► under but not by much I in other words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► i'm not shocked about where their i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► think that's it that's a good way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► Ryan continues of the necessary apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► podcast player notes Twitter photos mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► centre which you leave satisfied with in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► other words what app that you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► everyday because it's the best available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► to you still not love all start in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► don't know if he intended to limit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► to iOS or not i will give to answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► slack slack is a dumpster fire on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► mac and i hate it but it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► yeah i'm gonna go photos photos is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► app that like I use it constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► it is a big part of my life both on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► and the mac the the iOS is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► capture the mac is mostly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► curation of the collection editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► importing from cameras and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► picking through and doing minor edits if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► the the iCloud photo library sync system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► is great i I've never had problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► it is wonderfully convenient it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► quickly and reliably the vast majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► of the time for me so the system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► great however the Photos app especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► on the mac is very frustrating for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► use to do anything beyond getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► photo like it's nice that thinks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► what that's wonderful but then once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► want to do anything with the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► but whether it's as simple as like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► know when I have the UH I took 50 photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► during this event and i want to narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► down to 10 like photos on the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► just the worst in the world for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► like it is so clunky is it is so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► unnecessarily clunky it even doing basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► editing operations have to wait and sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► through those animations and mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► switches and everything it's every it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► basically seems like it's fighting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► doing anything even the most basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► operations that everybody would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► do with the photo app but i do love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► sinking so much that tolerate that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► do wish the Apple was better official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► mac John the last question was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► challenge to try to try to simply say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► how you think apples doing five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► but instead marcos for 10 minutes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► photos up about 10 minutes like to yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► so I'll i would basically agree with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► is I mean I don't love photos i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► some parts but everything I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► everything Marco said about dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► the app it could be better but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► other contender that I mean I also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► of agree with casey us like but I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► of do love slack you despite all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► gross pneus like eating a white castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► yeah the other contender though is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► another situation where I'm being left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► behind for explicable reasons this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► time you know i know i am is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► twitter client on the mac hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► updated in forever because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► worthwhile for the developer to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► this but it is the only mac twitter app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► that I like and it's frustrating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► that it doesn't have so many features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► and it's such a big mess because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► hasn't been updated and I know why and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► just sit here clinging to it and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► it until it doesn't launch anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► then i'll be set and which happens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► because somebody will has twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► for the mac which I still I still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► do like but it is so far behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► state of the twitter at this point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► i can't recommend other people use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► anonymous asks apples priorities are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► clearly iphone then watch then Mac an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► ipad if you were Tim how are you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► would you rank them if i were to him i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► would put mac for Hurst and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► the way this works i think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► reasonable approach is iphone then ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► then watch then Mac and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► please me to say that I don't want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► be that way but I think that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► management incentives such that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► not necessary to rank them like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► that's such a non-answer think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► really possible as you break it off into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► subsidiary is that are the i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► i think that's dodging ignition still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► okay if I have to rank them it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► I hate anyway if I had to rank them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► iphone would still be first i would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► max second a ipad 3rd and watch forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► because that's basically the order in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► which i think i think the order of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► importance along with the order in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► then the amount of attention they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► watch is brand new and fairly young but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► it doesn't actually do that much it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► fairly simple product it's not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► don't think it needs a ton of updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► you know especially like the three-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► was pretty good like they've gotten too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► good a good spot now it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► dying for tons of updates the ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► the ipad is a lot of stuff for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► which advances in the iphone so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► doesn't need a lot of its own attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► attention because of sales aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► whereas the Mac I the reason I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► second it to the iphone is that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► only obviously do i love it but also i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► think the mac needs more attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► has more influence and hat and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► foundational important part of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► market John alright i would go iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► ipad Mac watch although i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► entirely sure that the order given is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► clearly apples priorities and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► i was obviously we all read an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► for us because I think that's to give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► the reason I'm putting ipad second is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► because i think it has the potential is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► the only thing in a plan that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► potential to eventually someday do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► things that does and the watch is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► young and so new it should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► priority over the ipad or the mac or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► iphone alright yeah also like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► like the apple TV is missing from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► list like they're there are some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► apple does that aren't here but is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► yeah but I would also say like the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► TV is similar to the watch in that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► continuous investment because the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► why the apple TV and the watch and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► ipad actually the what holds these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► things back is not just like software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► features or hardware updates it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► ecosystem limitations around them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► just make it very difficult for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► dan Casspi asks do all of your wives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► listen to the episodes do they find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► Aaron does not she does listen analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► she does not listen ATP Marco yeah tiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► listens to ATP she does not listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► under the radar and she's in top for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► yes my life lessons to ATP I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► she finds an interesting in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► subject matter what reason the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► reason you find interesting is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► her husband is on the show and and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► must be here if we say anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► hi Tina have you ever rejected an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► this is still from dan cassie is we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► I can't think of any examples and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► probably not mature of us to cite them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► anyway but yes we have absolutely i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► get tons i mean that's like we reject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► ads frequently and not like everyday but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► like maybe every month or two we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► turn down a sponsor or we will even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► decided to stop working with one that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► have worked with before there are lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► of reasons for this obviously there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► lot of stuff that just we don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► would be nice to advertise here or would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► not fit the show well sometimes we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► we will drop a sponsor that we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► if we get reports from from people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► their product isn't as good as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► we also extrait ichika Lee we like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► tried to reduce the amount of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► clothing companies and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► advertise with us and and increase more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► like the tech relevant stuff there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► tons of sponsors out there that want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► sell you like a short description and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► I mean look last episode we have soccer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► it was pretty fun experience the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► advertisers to all be that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► because we're still a text shows i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► to have some kind of focus to make most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► of the ads tech-related alright let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► take a break and speaking of sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► let's talk about one of the ones that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/4960">TS</a>]
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01:29:42 ◼ ► started using 2016 you think deserve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► shout-out I think the much faster touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► ID the entire world has been using for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► year and a half it's awesome and I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► the fact that my iphone 7 unlocked so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► quickly it's like magic is really it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► the I think it's the most significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► maybe second to the speed of light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► Chris family asks for Casey and John any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► desire to become independent desire yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► character probably not i i i recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► that that having a jobby job is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► really any more stable than having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► completely independent lifestyle but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► insurance and and so right now I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► like my job I've been there since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► fabruary I really really like it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► don't plan to leave but we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► john is a similar desire yes but a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► yeah exactly for Marco still from chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► any desire to start companies something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► with more than three or four employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► no not even a little i am terrible at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► managing people i don't enjoy managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► people i really don't enjoy the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► having to manage investors which that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► would probably require and so no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► very happy limiting myself to just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► fair enough for all of us who would win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► a 100-metre sprint maybe me but quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► possibly John and in a 5k race i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► idea you guys the hundred-meter I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► don't i don't know I'd like i'm not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► at sprinting so i probably have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► that one to kc 5k i win i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► probably fair a wire 3d movies terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► because it's just a gimmick Marco any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► I have never seen one so I can't answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► now you're better off cost the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► are you surprised is really surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► right he's terrible job for the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► serial it's all right i mean then I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► terrible whatever the problem with 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► movies is when we see the world with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► two eyeballs we can choose what to focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► you can't do that 3d movies choose what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► to focus on for years they have 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► effect or you wear it seems like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► are closer to you and farther away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► if you decide to look at the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► doesn't suddenly come into focus and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► it's not like the real-world experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► but it's also not a flat picture like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► regular movie and so it's uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► that i personally find terrible that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► an annoyingly good answer dream of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► god i wish i had looked at this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► the show I made in parentheses 1 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► dollar budget like well which is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► well I think it's like let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► best five cars you can buy for a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► or less yeah just right on office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► alright so i asked martin DBS that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► what like a quarter-million 200,000 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► jeep wrangler and no I'm serious I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► really serious there's less fun of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► list intern I so ask martin DBS jeep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► wrangler i bmw m3 porsche cayenne turbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► that's I think what I think you're over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► you know you're on my over-budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► reliably know what did I would say stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► within budget and just stopped short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► when you're done with when you use know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► what I think your way the DBS is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► let's call it 200 the kind of wondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► what are you kidding i think you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► price that out oh all right fine I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► just call for sure the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► probably has like 19 options alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► go ahead that's what I will just stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► for then all right let's go to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► since I feel like I've been going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► Marco first for a lot so that's John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► let's go to Eunice I i'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► ferrari 488 ferrari 458 better since you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► used a used BMW m3 the reunion 4346 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► generation the one that I like all slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► down why because that's the m3 that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► I don't like how the new ones look but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► want that I want that type of car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► mercedes s-class really okay Marco I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► Tesla 100d if that doesn't exist yet p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► 100d number two would be asked Martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► whatever aston martin is cool and sexy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► don't keep trying to do which ones they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► are its people anyways yeah what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► with the two-door one they're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► so yeah one of those of course and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► kind of like small simple stick shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► two-door car whether it's a Cayenne I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► sorry whether that's a caiman sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► your apology's yeah weather came in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► an end to it probably one of those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► know and then the other two spots i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► would just leave like I'd fill spots 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and five and just leave spots too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► for mtv's have room because i love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► garage with space walk around don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► that and I've never i believe i've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► ever had very crowded garages in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► so like space would be an amazing luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► you don't know crowd and garages usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► told i do not have a cavernous garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► but both Marco and John have you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► mine is by far the smallest also i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► to change my answer i forgot the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► as I was thrown in there a budget left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► yeah that's a good call that's good call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► program start have says what is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► I feel like I should have an answer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► this it's ours anyone yet totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► actually know what i think it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► 2016 that I discovered on 99 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► invisible which I know everyone else on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► the planet has been listening to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► years yet but i really loved nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► percent visible and i just discovered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► this year so that'll be my answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► john thinks there you go to Marco Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► hasn't seen a TV shows movies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► probably hasn't always yeah I Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► yeah and then do I saw Dorie the finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► Dory thing with my kid I wouldn't best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► i'm gonna do best one of each because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► they'll turn into a couple episode I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► just gonna say best TV show of my memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► so short so i could be forgetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► something important but West world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► the most recent in my mind that's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► think it's my favorite TV show of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► year and podcast who knows and movie who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► Marco I think my favorite podcast of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► year might be upgrade its you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► that the show with Jason's now my curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► commentary show not too different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► this they just do a really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► job of it so i'm a big fan that overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► I would say my favorite new podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► recently even though that wasn't part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► the question is due by friday by Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► Mann max Temkin out cocks it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► incredibly funny it's pretty new so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► lonely they're like 45 present but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► god it's funny it's just amazing so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► alright still from program how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► three loved ones are you good gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► givers I I I feel like every third or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► fourth year i do really well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► rest of the time I'm a frigging disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► Marco not too much better about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► the main problem is that that TIFF and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► like we will like by each other like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► cool things throughout the whole years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► when it comes time for a holiday it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► often like you know well I was impatient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► two months ago and bought you this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► for like happy wednesday and now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► yeah John i am a terrible gift giver and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► how do i pick gives badly in desperation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► hopefully with help its is a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► totally you are an impressively bad gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► yes is also amazing i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► abolish all the whole gifting that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► hope my gift my wish for the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► that all of you get a chance to at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► point witness John siracusa opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► presents it to give me a prank gift of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► giant thing of sprite so I prank gifts i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► feel like i receive with a with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► ill-mannered appropriately but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► given the real gift that you open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/5880">TS</a>]
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01:45:49 ◼ ► Sharia anyway we use the iCloud sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► feature because all of our family you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► have iOS devices and they get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► notification and they can go and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► it sideways shearing and processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► everything goes that you know we connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► the camera to the 5k imac my it's on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► wife's account to her phone stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► everything is on my phone that goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► my mac and photos and periodically in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► fact just did this recently periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► i do export unmodified originals from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► mac to a folder and then import that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► folder into the big photos library to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► make the I be iCloud family photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► library that Apple refuses to make nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► to be clear my backup is crashplan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► only reason i don't use backblaze is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► because backblaze doesn't easily support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► a network drives if it wasn't for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► would absolutely be on back place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► tomorrow about rats the same reason I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► it because we can we mount the synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► on my wife's 5k imac and because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► network share crash man will back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► my personal back Mac is back-to-back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► Ryan good let asks what's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► difficult challenge for transition that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► you've had in your professional life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► um I'm gonna go here again with the 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► um i think number one my last job I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► a deserved reputation for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► complainer i think i did too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► challenging but rewarding to move away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► from that and similarly I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► something that I was very comfortable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► doing my last job and now i'm doing iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► development which I am comfortable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► but I certainly wasn't when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► and so that was very challenging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► very difficult but i'm glad i've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► Marco this this is gonna be a ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► humble brag and I apologize for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► then and that is the transition to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► any large enough audience and an enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► influence that when i write something it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► anticipated and there are ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► to that and so I've basically had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► learn how to responsibly have this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► of of audience and and not get myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► into trouble or situations that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► personally regret or that mitt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► exploded in my face unexpectedly and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► have not completed this transition or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► prospects yeah but I i think i am slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► learning basically like how how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► responsibly have the audience that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► I had that I now have I think that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► really good answer actually John uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► i did read this before and I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► having trouble picking what I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► probably the best one is no I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► working in college I was working like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► tech and you know in the industry in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► doing it was that the advent of the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► so I was getting into that but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► worked like in the ID helpdesk and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► like that anyway I transition right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► you know I got the my fresh out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► college I got it kind of when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► college and then just kept it afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► but then i moved away and so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► telecommuting for that job his job that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► I had already had like it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► talking the whole time I had been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► into the office and start telecommuting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► for two-and-a-half years or so and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► transition from being a person who goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► to a job as I had since I got my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► first job as a teenager all the way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► through college and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► where you go to a place and do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► to being a telecommuter i thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► great i love telecommuting but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► hindsight that was very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► transition because i had to go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► through all the things that I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► anybody working almost to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► where you are responsible for your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► time and you know you need to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► anything that anyone is independent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► work from home otherwise has to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► with I dealt with that in my very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► job and like so many people on this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► podcast my problem was not motivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► myself to work my problem was having any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► kind of reasonable work-life balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► like I don't have kids then but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► newly married but I spent way too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► time like it was like every waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► on the computer most of the time doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► work related things and that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► got in big trouble with RSI issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► you could have been career-ending and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► was very difficult and just learning how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► to be a human being with a balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► especially difficult after coming off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► college where for the first time I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► access to the internet on you know at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► ethernet connection not a modem like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► was on the actual internet and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► spent you know again every second that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► it wasn't in class I was glued to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► kind of external market other terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► or whatever in the computer lab that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► wasn't healthy balance of there but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► was probably the most difficult after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► that I think I'm more or less figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► out that aspect of the my professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► life balancing the the life part with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► the work part brand RHONJ asks if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► could force Apple to enter one product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► category they're not currently in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► would it be the president pro desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► business doesn't count yet but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► I I this is that I might get dinged for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► this but i'd like to see Apple do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► standalone camera and I know yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► the iphone particularly as a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► great camera blah blah but I'd be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► interested to see an apple standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► camera and I know they did that years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► and years and years ago back when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► know John was a Mac user but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► interesting to see it today mark oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► is it this is a hard for me to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► because my answer it mostly is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► stuff they already do but just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► better but if I had to pick one i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► say i would like to see them address the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► the echo / google home market at but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► problem the problem with that is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► don't honestly think Cirie is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► enough for that yet and I also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► integrations with third-party api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► stuff that would make it as useful as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► the echo is so basically i want Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► either make their current products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► better or if they're going to enter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► new market the only one I can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► is one they be bad at which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► John gonna pick a gigantic desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► touchscreen thing that's plugged into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► the wall basically Microsoft service to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6718">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► do so interesting is they're not in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► and.and like Marco I have a you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► can think of all sorts of things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► would like them to do but then I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► like they wouldn't do a good job and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► think they could do a good job of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► buckless asks does anyone in the ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► group using stand-up desk not at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► but at work i use a very desk which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► the standard issue corporate sit stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► desks like a Don and I love it I i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► recommend it enough it's very spendy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► which is why I worked out for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► don't have one at home but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► really really like it if you are to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► absolutely get a Matt and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► recommendation for one so ask me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► twitter if you need one for the Sharks I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► wanted to actually I i have a standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► desk that I stole from tumblr when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► left and it is it is really it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► nice one its it was so you know it's old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► like some kind of office furniture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► company back you know almost 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► ago so i have no idea of you I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► the market totally different now but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► thing I I don't use it instead of modal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► lot I i have gone through phases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► have i get if i had you know certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► back inflammation like disc information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► on my back I would go through phases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► where it uses insane mode for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► almost permanently for months and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► go back to setting so it is nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► the option is also wonderful when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► management clean up in the back to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► up a little bit and have that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► headroom literally but one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► recommend if you get a standing desk my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► biggest recommendation is get one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► has memories for the different positions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► that can do that like at least two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► memory so you can have at least a stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► ceiling height and a storage standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► height because otherwise it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► frustrating to like have to be fidgeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► every time you change it so if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► memory presets you can just set it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► you like it and then just always repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► John never worked on a standing desk i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► would try it i'm interested in trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► but i never have enough also quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► real-time follow-up John should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► friend of the show asked how often is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► usually every day not always but usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► every day for probably a quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► day Phil chatham asks although ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► considered member donations aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► we've talked about this but maybe not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► candidly I don't think it would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► come close to earning as much money as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► sponsorship would any thoughts from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► I mean that's you know our sponsorships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► I one of the things i learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► howard stern which I mentioned it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► so just go over briefly is that he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► on a number of occasions basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► he likes to minimize the times and ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► in which he asked the audience for money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► because that way when you do ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► for money or you know that it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► makes it count and it you're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► wasting that goodwill all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► necessary you're not nickel-and-diming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► basically we try to make this year we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► sell t-shirts like once a year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► everybody see usually or near at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► and and and and we know we have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► listened to show response ships and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► far the only way to really ask you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► money ever and that that works for us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► make money from sponsorships anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► else I think would not only bring in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► lot less money than the sponsor would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► but also kind of cloud the message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► kind of make it feel like we are like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► don't double charging you or asking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► yeah I completely great Charles heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► favorite which one do i guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► multi-part so let's start there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► which apple executives your favorite I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► do love me some phil schiller yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► he's goofy in the best possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► although God now I'm thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► Craig mmm yeah I'm have to change my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► mind I'm have to go with Craig Marko [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► well if it's good if it's about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► public interaction i think i have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► with Phil because phil is he has he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► so gloriously dry and it-it-it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► that that that shows itself in weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► ways sometimes because he's he's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► seems like he's a nice person but to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► him to show genuine enthusiasm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► anything is is seemingly not very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► and is he just has an impressive level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► of dryness about him that I really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► even when you can just kind of barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► see it through like the marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► message like the mario run announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► a post on Twitter that was like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► the most like dry unexcited even if ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► seen for emotional effort and that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► had Phil Schiller all over at like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► probably had something to do with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► with the opposite of that but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► know I i think if you look at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► activity of like who whose work I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► that's got to be Craig enough John Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► with the market to pick 20 final that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► yeah I will if someone yep I I feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► same way about Phil but i gotta go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► seafood because it gave me a file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► haha who have died both of you all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► dad is next from Charles heart which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► leaving Apple would be the saddest i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► going to absolutely go with Phil on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► one John yeah they'll definitely i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► craig on that 1i i think i have it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► that if Craig left that would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► know as much as I like Phil I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► would be my BF said if you even leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► I'd be a lot more upset i think of Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► left because I feel like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► represent so much more of like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► care about being gone from the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► anyone who you think leaving would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► actually be a net win I want to pass on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► that's union but that's that's mean John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► yeah i don't think i don't know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► about the inner workings of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► haha that's cold not a bad answer though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► Andrew Derek says all of you primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► use Apple devices or products what two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► or three non apple products each of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► what are two or three not Apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► that each of you use a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► this is a great great question um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► don't know if I can do two or three just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► list them don't describe why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► good but one that I can think of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► that i can think of off the top of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► head that I absolutely freaking love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► have loved for years now is my synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► which to be fair was sent to me for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► but i swear to god i love this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► if if I knew then how much I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► it i would absolutely have paid my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► Marco almost all of my audio gear is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► admittedly is a frequently used one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► yeah those are all non apple as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► you know audio in and out microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► interface headphone amp headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► because they're part of my family so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► this people keep that was going i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► a huge fan of my fujitsu scansnap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► scanner which is incredibly boring but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► incredibly satisfying that works so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► i would also pile on the camera on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► camera one that was a great answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► John I'm gonna go with my panasonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► plasma television which I still love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► sony playstation 4 pro which I love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► play every day including just before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► show finally finished out the srl record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► book from last year I still kept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► completed what else I my synology just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► like a said with all the exactly same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► caveat if my synology broken i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► absolutely by no one in fact I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► thinking about buying anyone just to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► all the new cool one like I'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► my synology yeah you're old and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► discs are small let me buy a new one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► you know it's still working fine so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► not gonna point that money and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► you got the different discs and right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► know but this model thing mine supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► btrfs and oh god the the new ones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► faster chips for transcoding play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7198">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► faster chips for transcoding play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7198">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► stop and yes I could replace this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► mr what am I gonna do with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► gigantic discs lord knows I can put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► sick burn alright Charles hunt asks if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► the mac excuse me if the imac pro became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► configurations would justify the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► that's a great question i think just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► absurd amount of ram and absurd amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► of hard drive space which isn't I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► shouldn't call my hard drive anymore an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► SSD space and a really really beefy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► graphics card i think the graphics card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► John I need i think i would justify to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► me I think I need to see ram i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► need Zeon's but i need easy ram tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► ram and big honking graphics card like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► so the cpu is is you would expect me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► list that but I'm not gonna I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► whatever easy rim and i don't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► you know until may not have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► combination of parts available but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► easy around and really fast graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► card and you didn't need to have cpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► because you knew i would cover them haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► so I I'm gonna go with basically two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► basically they require each other I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► hi korzy on so it basically more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► four cores give me at least double at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► least eight cores because that matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► and i will use that and then also what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► should be required to do that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► give me a cooling enclosure that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► have the computer under very very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► workloads and still be silent in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► room because the trashcan mac pro can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► that the old Mac Pro's almost did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► and the imac and all the laptops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► everything they make today except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► everything else ever the community make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► underload you hear fans and I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► computer that is advanced and graceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► enough to have a hundred and sixty watt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► cpu and there and to have me never hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► the fan in a regular room in regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► conditions when it's under maximum load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► dead pine asks you're forced to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► one line of Apple computers to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► I definitely the mac pro cause I'm tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► of hearing you to whine about Nina and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► all kidding aside I would kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► macbook air i think the backpack is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► there's they're ok I do it's about price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► point but really kill the macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► Marco kill everything that is non retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► and has a spinning disk hard drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► that would include the macbook air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► the base models of the imac and the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► mini I think that you can't you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► computers you've got to see the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► imac so the macbook air is the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► like that that is a line of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► and it shouldn't exist and it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► computer that it's the same price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► tom wilkinson asks this one is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► into John if you could design your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► perfect gaming console what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► it wouldn't be that different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► existing playstation 4 i'm mostly happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► with everything they did there I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► change the control a little bit how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7377">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► alright Marco any thoughts on that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► okay good talk friend of mine Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► techniques resolutions stop looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► my damn phone so often that's about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► Marco I really do year's resolutions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► for all the Merlin reasons of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► that's kind of that they're not usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► productive or effective but one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► I'd like to do more of in the future as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► a general thing is less time wasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► checking social media and more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► mm yep completely ready John i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► i don't do new years resolutions but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► you did what we what would you say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► no i don't think so i don't think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► those terms that I don't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► aw Paris asks in the past Apple has made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► cheap or cheaper polycarbonate laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► and ipods both which were bought by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► parents for kids and by college students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7437">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► these were the sort with these are sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► of apple's version of quote my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► sony I miss those that started a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► lifelong Apple users doesn't concern you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► guys and apples evolution to exclusively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► high-end hardware won't allow young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► users to buy into their ecosystem any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► this is a great question of my first mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► was a was a polycarbonate macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► Polly book as i love to call it which dr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► snow but it's it's a great point and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► an interesting question Marco I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► it's these this is more about price than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► about materials and so if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► satisfying lower-priced here that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► great i mean when we were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► coming up in this in this area of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► the cheapest max you could buy were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► $2,000 and and that was in like nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► nineties into thousands of dollars so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► a-after inflation we're doing pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► well even when even like the new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► pros are pretty awesome it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► compared to you know how when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► when we were younger and getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► this i think as long as they serve lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► price point somehow I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► generally fine it it is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► unfortunate that the way to chose mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► lower price points is often things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► non-retina screens and spinning hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► drives which make the product overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► suck that is unfortunate but as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► they hit those price points somehow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► think they're okay on this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► yeah I mostly read that the materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► changes as a red herring here like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► Apple is able to has been able to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► entry-level computers that are higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► quality that feel better because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► made of aluminum and you know again we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► have a roast rose-tinted glasses for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► Apple's totally capable of making entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► level ones with the current aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► glass thing and they do and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► all right grant Avery asks i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► to know what is your daily carry on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► person in my left front pocket I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► keys i have a Listerine what a breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► mint sort of things after what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► called a little like strip things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► yeah cool mint is my flavor of choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► but also having oh I have a I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► eyedrops sustained altra eyedrops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:20 ◼ ► because I we're hard contacts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7580">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► interesting and so my eyes get dry on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► not terribly a regular basis in my right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► in matte black in the little change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► pocket Burt's Bees lip balm in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► back pocket a very small wallet i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► recall what the name is off top my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► in the left back pocket a field notes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► and also in right front pocket a blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► pilot precise v5 pen and also in my left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► front pocket Lately or my ear pods which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► i freakin love and that's it for my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► person everyday carry is that all John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:55 ◼ ► yeah that's a John we got you I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7615">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► carry anything in any of your pants back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► yeah you carry like the whole world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► although to be fair John puts all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► in his wallet yeah like everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► when i go to work when I go to work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► have my wallet with me but during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► day it is not in any of my pockets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► it's nothing that doesn't get my tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► noooo i would find in the front pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► on my head I do wear my badge at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► like the badge and out of doors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► stuff and that's quick clip to my belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► on a little stretchy a single bobber to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► reach the door things but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► the only thing that's on you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► when I want to go to meetings and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► i don't even take my phone with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► wow that's intense that I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► many pockets i went through but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► pretty sure i went through only for i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► just went back and forth on a few but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► the chat room is indicating to me i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► about 87 pockets so if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► grant Avery also asked and secondarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► your personal bag setups as in what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:50 ◼ ► each of you used to carry your things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7670">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► for day-to-day use as well as travel i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► am in love with Tom bin bags and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► show notes I've already linked my review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► of tambien cadet which is my laptop bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► i also have a co-pilot which is my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► kind of mercy for when I'm traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► light and in the review of the time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► cadet I talk about the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► carry in that bag if you ever have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:15 ◼ ► little bit of extra money to spend i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7695">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► cannot recommend enough that tambien is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► Marco your laptop bag if you are say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► traveling to dub dub or something along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► those lines i use a backpack from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► water-filled designs whose name I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► completely forget but they only make two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► backpacks and it's the smaller of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► two but yeah they're they're fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► that's SF bag comments that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► and whenever I whenever I do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► that involved carrying a laptop or iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► or anything else anywhere that I i use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► backpack and I use that backpack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► that's what it's full of dongles now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► yeah of course it is john i'm a backpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► person always have been my current one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7738">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► think is an LL Bean thing I basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► use the backpacks until they wear out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► and in my backpack is you know all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► stuff we got my my phone my wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► you know iOS charging cables and grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► thumb drives all sorts of it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:13 ◼ ► that heavy because you know it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7753">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► nothing in it and you know i'll put hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► and gloves in there in the colder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► weather stuff like that but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► that's it that's the backpack if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► Martin sleet asks do you think pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► hardware should be made to last and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► that include upgradability in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► yes it should be made to last no it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► not by necessity mean upgradability John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► Marco yeah the same really upgradability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► is nice when you can offer it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► market tends to vote against it in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► important desktops we're not only will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:53 ◼ ► they likely have a longer life due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7793">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► less physical stress and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► also like there's there's more room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7797">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► it in desktops to have like doors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:01 ◼ ► ports and things with slots whereas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7801">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► laptops i think it's understandable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:08 ◼ ► upgradeable recently it's unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7808">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► for work for price perspective but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► understandable laptops desktops it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► it's less less justified he also asks do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► you upgrade your hardware or generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► by an entire new package similar to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► market was just saying i do upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► hardware when it's a desktop we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:25 ◼ ► talked on the show in the past about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7825">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► woes with odbc ram which are now fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► so I have 32 gigs of ram in my imac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► when it comes to laptops i basically by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► something as is since basically that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► Marco I don't feel I don't read much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► anymore because almost everything i buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► from apple now can be upgraded the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► I max out the ram when I got it to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► and and that's the only thing I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► really even can upgrade about this imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7854">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► John I upgrade when possible i mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7857">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► this mac pro's I like three graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► cards tons of different ram something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► hard drives in it so yeah I think I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► an upgrader but you know like Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► so few things can be upgraded any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► than non-binding stuff all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► Brian how can I ask are you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► playing desert golfing or outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► denture in what level on each I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► never ever played desert golfing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► I've played Ultimate Adventure like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► Marco I don't play much anymore with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► those are golfing I doubt adventure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► played on a plane once and that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:28 ◼ ► doesn't often I I got somewhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7888">TS</a>]
02:11:31 ◼ ► thousands like 3,000 something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7891">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► beginning for peace reasons and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► currently up at 1,500 but again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:40 ◼ ► play that much so sorry that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7900">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► stroke count 648 is the whole number i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► was gonna say you laughed me out doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:47 ◼ ► golfing i'm in i'm in the mid-1700s ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7907">TS</a>]
02:11:51 ◼ ► and i probably don't think i could also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7911">TS</a>]
02:11:53 ◼ ► adventure i played until I unlocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7913">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► this is back when the game was knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► before they start adding all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7916">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► are basically unlocked everything how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7917">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► and also after the point where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► realized the amount of time it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► require that i would need to invest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► catch my friends who have high scores is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:07 ◼ ► more than I'm willing to put in so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7927">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► did clear it out and I do get the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► character and did spend some time doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:12 ◼ ► some high school friends with her but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7932">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► then baled and that was a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:15 ◼ ► i still play it every once in awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7935">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► especially the Zen mode with no scoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► for you just just hang out and do it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:20 ◼ ► do that occasionally alright tohe syed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7940">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► said what technologies outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► apple center cords excite you these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:27 ◼ ► this would be different server side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► language some camera sensor technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► or concept like functional languages i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► just did a five-part series on RX Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► which is reactive programming on my blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► it is really freaking cool and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► like it and it's a kind of it it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► of functional ish but it's it's both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► more in less than that so that that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► John I think probably i'm still looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► at all LED tvs i am excited about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► and I can't wait for them to mature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► and so that's that's probably the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► that i'm mostly looking at these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► Marco electric cars they're amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► fair enough let's see pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► entire internet asks what would it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► for us to ditch the mac for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► else to be better i don't mean that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► nothing else is better if something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► gets better than i'll switch Marco yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► about the same i mean the Mac the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:29 ◼ ► would have to get really unusable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8009">TS</a>]
02:13:32 ◼ ► the kinds of things i do and something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8012">TS</a>]
02:13:34 ◼ ► else would have to be good enough to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8014">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► me to switch and honestly even even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► apples current rate of neglect ice don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► see that happening for a long time John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:43 ◼ ► but it would take more than something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8023">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► better because it would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► better by a lot and i almost think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► me it would require Apple to stop making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► max like me because they won't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► without yeah just having something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► better would make me switch because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► switching costs would be so huge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8037">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► it would have to be phenomenally better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► that could make me switch or basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► Apple push us out and then like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► tough luck alright thanks for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► kokhon audible and Casper and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► John research Marco in kc would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► DP died and it for twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:48 ◼ ► yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8088">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8093">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► now we have the shortest after show ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► yeah we should make it quick laser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:20 ◼ ► sailor asks as a bonus Q&A question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8120">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► so many words this team's new record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► support carplay i did not even think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► I am so jealous of people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► carplay does it support carplay and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► we talked about it in the after-show of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► yesterday / last week's episode I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► know yesterday and I still don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► today the worst I sure like we were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► the car today and I was you telling i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► everything like matched my car because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► you know so that's a similar experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► by the way that the UI problem we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► currently have the car is that where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► same generation but like three month two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► or three model years apart the keys the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► key fob things look and feel exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► identical so I need to get some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► like textured rubbery sticker ething on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:10 ◼ ► one of them so i can feel in my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8170">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► and figure out which the help keep Bob I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► need to press the button on that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► big problem but anyway as far as i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► tell her infotainment system actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► about the same as mine and that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:23 ◼ ► think it doesn't support carpet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8183">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► honestly I haven't looked it up yet so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► don't know how do you not know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► oh my lord it's sunny all right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► others are just got a new car delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► about a half hour before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► started tonight and it does have I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► i have you confirmed because I literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► only had time to like reprogram the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► homely transmitter and bring into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:47 ◼ ► garage just about book but we ordered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8207">TS</a>]
02:16:51 ◼ ► with the new BMW implementation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8211">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► wireless carplay i think the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8214">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► manufacturer to get this Apple have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8216">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► weirdly quiet about its existence but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► does have wireless carplay and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► probably going to be awesome and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► part of the reason why we got this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:09 ◼ ► but it was a pretty big driver because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8229">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► need car playtesting hardware that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► real car so i get some kind of feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► it sometimes and i think it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:19 ◼ ► be a very long time before test whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8239">TS</a>]
02:17:20 ◼ ► adds it if ever because they're related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8240">TS</a>]
02:17:23 ◼ ► with apple is not great and their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8243">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► level of care about their media system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► probably won't hold my breath on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► one but it's nice to have a car that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► a relative just confirmed but by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► message that it does indeed have car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► place used on the way home from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► dealer for picking it up so that's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► yep so that's the only tools i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:45 ◼ ► forward to playing with that and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8265">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► be nice as a developer of a car play app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► to finally not have to rely on everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► what did she get she got a 340 GTS all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► also all right any other thoughts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8277">TS</a>]
02:17:59 ◼ ► review of it so far is it is faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8279">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► it has nicer stitching haha both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:06 ◼ ► which are true steering steering any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8286">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► better I don't know good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► hey TIFF is the steering any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:13 ◼ ► that's because the the cec notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8293">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► immediately when she had the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► at the steering was kinda numb and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► great so I'm curious about that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► i will give her a chance to answer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:23 ◼ ► will say that if anyone on this earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8303">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► she says it feels different the steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► feels different that's probably good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► if anyone would know whether or not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► stitching was better it would be Tiffany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► armament and so that is probably high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► if it's if that everyone she says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:40 ◼ ► steering wheel feels different like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8320">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► the wheel itself like the texture of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:47 ◼ ► did you just come in here to tell notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8327">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► by my imessage she's probably in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8333">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► downstairs where she isn't that go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8337">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► over you grab your headphone hey dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► hey lady i have i have a question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► can you please convince aaron that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:12 ◼ ► time for her to get a new car because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8352">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► she loves her car more than she loves me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► Aaron it's time to get a new car you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:18 ◼ ► love other cars just listen to show ru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8358">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► coming up so I just so what we see each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► other you need to work on her please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► i'll give you a whole American dollar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:28 ◼ ► I got a car so much so that all kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8368">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► aside that the house your house your new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► how's the car play tell me everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► and the steering wheel field smoother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► and thicker lights are a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8383">TS</a>]
02:19:50 ◼ ► the headlights or the interior lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8390">TS</a>]
02:19:52 ◼ ► i'm not trying to be funny I'm genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8392">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► asking all of the lights but mostly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► headlights because they're led now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8395">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► instead of the interesting ok yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► just people with some setting they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:01 ◼ ► actually are brighter and it has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8401">TS</a>]
02:20:03 ◼ ► wider spread I guess of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8403">TS</a>]
02:20:08 ◼ ► headlights and yeah other than that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8408">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► pretty much the same i can change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► color of my interior mood lighting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:19 ◼ ► he has either amber or its words white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8419">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► it closed down from various areas of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:24 ◼ ► car like an airplane and let's see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8424">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► LOL when we did the car play thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:32 ◼ ► he's our car guy he can make a salesman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8432">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► at the car dealership that we've dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:38 ◼ ► with a lot of you know it has like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8438">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► typical like messages and mail and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► know all that kind of stuff and then use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:44 ◼ ► swype over and there's overcast so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8444">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► was pretty neat oh look at that hops is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► giving us the most at tu brute a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► possible he stuck outside the office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► now his whole family than here except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► him and he's like just staring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:57 ◼ ► pathetically would be a little one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8457">TS</a>]
02:21:01 ◼ ► everyone's coming and getting a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8461">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► paranoid but yeah put hops in the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► is gonna want to say sounds a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► slurping but you know and what you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:10 ◼ ► do and so my seats have like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8470">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► white stitching on them and from what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:15 ◼ ► could tell possibly the console would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8475">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► whatever the heck it is looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► bit more naughty than normal little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:24 ◼ ► everything's in the dark I i picked up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8484">TS</a>]
02:21:28 ◼ ► couldn't see anything I could even tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8488">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► what color it was like they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► dresses glue it looks black but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:34 ◼ ► bloom like okay i guess i have to dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8494">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► you because there's no more like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:38 ◼ ► a light had to go outside with a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8498">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► bright LED flashlight and shine on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:42 ◼ ► paint to confirm it was the right call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8502">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► I don't even know the interiors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:45 ◼ ► right color i have no idea it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8505">TS</a>]
02:21:49 ◼ ► yeah normally wouldn't I feel like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8509">TS</a>]
02:21:51 ◼ ► yard hectic holiday scheduling has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8511">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► having to pick up the car like today or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8514">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► tomorrow morning and so we chose to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:57 ◼ ► it tonight but yeah in retrospect don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8517">TS</a>]
02:22:01 ◼ ► now where are you traveling tomorrow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8521">TS</a>]
02:22:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah are you taking the test are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8524">TS</a>]
02:22:09 ◼ ► oh we're not taking my car the Tesla has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8529">TS</a>]
02:22:10 ◼ ► more trunk space as double trunk right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8530">TS</a>]
02:22:14 ◼ ► the front the Tesla has more trunk space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8534">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► 02 although here I get the hunchback why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:23 ◼ ► are you doing this to her Marco why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8543">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► won't bite right you like it it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► case you like to punch back yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► it a lot it's in case i need to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:35 ◼ ► I've never I in the last three years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8555">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► haven't bought a chair at home goods but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:39 ◼ ► when I do I'm ready for you be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8559">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► well and I'd also like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:46 ◼ ► narrower cards like hurt like my car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8566">TS</a>]
02:22:48 ◼ ► a lot wider it it's like the next size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8568">TS</a>]
02:22:53 ◼ ► equivalent size rather than hers is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8573">TS</a>]
02:22:56 ◼ ► like an extended 3-series sure sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8576">TS</a>]
02:23:00 ◼ ► no I like the way the back opens up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8580">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► don't like a typical trunk anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► I mean I just because our doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► no in your car doesn't have it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:09 ◼ ► yeah yeah i think that the main reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8589">TS</a>]
02:23:10 ◼ ► why why why you chose this i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8590">TS</a>]
02:23:14 ◼ ► that we as we figured out over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8594">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► few months was I decided not to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► choice that's why I just yeah it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► was mostly in action like police was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► ending we had to get there let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:21 ◼ ► get the same thing it's nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8601">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► both kinds of cars sometimes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► want a car play to test your app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► you said we're like you need to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:29 ◼ ► car so we can test my app I said okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8609">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► yeah no yeah I picked it up tonight it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► oh and the sound system is much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► the radio the harman kardon yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:41 ◼ ► I didn't know I don't think he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8621">TS</a>]
02:23:44 ◼ ► talking about something I gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8624">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► outside with a flashlight to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► I don't you think that I got like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:50 ◼ ► good sounds then whatever it is sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8630">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► harman kardon in my car anyway his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:54 ◼ ► phenomenal so if you got the harman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8634">TS</a>]
02:23:56 ◼ ► kardon it would not surprise me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8636">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► were also impressed or I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8638">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► if harman kardon anymore but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:02 ◼ ► ooh yeah well I all the options were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8642">TS</a>]
02:24:04 ◼ ► different this time so is it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8644">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► hard like like the reason why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► interior trim is different is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:09 ◼ ► the entire options set change between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8649">TS</a>]
02:24:12 ◼ ► the first one the shorter than and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8652">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► one so everything is like very slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:16 ◼ ► different that as far as i can tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8656">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► all feels pretty good because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:22 ◼ ► dark and I can't really see it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8662">TS</a>]
02:24:24 ◼ ► let's see in the morning you did not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8664">TS</a>]
02:24:26 ◼ ► em sport because you could not get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8666">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► correct colors are correct i think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:30 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's right because you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8670">TS</a>]
02:24:32 ◼ ► to eat shit gets the dark blue and the M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8672">TS</a>]
02:24:35 ◼ ► Sport is only available in the kc blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8675">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► it's the same color that I always get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► nails painted so you know at least to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► match have your car matching your nails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:43 ◼ ► doesn't uh in going 60 seconds didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8683">TS</a>]
02:24:48 ◼ ► have the whole life with going to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8688">TS</a>]
02:24:51 ◼ ► is that what I said anyway I it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8691">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► gone in 60 seconds with Mary oh I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► the hemi cuda I believe angelina jolie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8698">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► knew that it was a woman's car because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:03 ◼ ► they she had lipstick maybe a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8703">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► maybe that's what was that match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:06 ◼ ► color of the car that she found in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8706">TS</a>]
02:25:10 ◼ ► good story and then I found five dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8710">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► it was amazing anyway congrats a new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► thank you very much i'm very excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:17 ◼ ► it's Christmas pursue is here so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8717">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► all are we going to see that car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► another car when we all meet up you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:24 ◼ ► probably see the Tesla we take in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8724">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► we have but he has become so his Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:31 ◼ ► can dominate underscore seselja it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8731">TS</a>]
02:25:33 ◼ ► season for the exact same model just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8733">TS</a>]
02:25:35 ◼ ► mine's red in his blue that's are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8735">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► gonna be able to plug in over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► yeah yeah just you know not not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► quickly as my eyes here but it's close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► yeah anyways like they're super chargers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► instead ya like it like on a long trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► like that like basically if i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:50 ◼ ► be driving most of the time or all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8750">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► you know that's like I it for trips for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8755">TS</a>]
02:25:57 ◼ ► that doesn't make sense like the Long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8757">TS</a>]
02:25:59 ◼ ► Island thing we're gonna have to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8759">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► discharging like fine we'll take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:03 ◼ ► car but for the most part if i'm driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8763">TS</a>]
02:26:05 ◼ ► a long trip i wanna be driving it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8765">TS</a>]
02:26:07 ◼ ► car and all the drivers president but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8767">TS</a>]
02:26:10 ◼ ► I think you guys would totally die if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8770">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► you knew how low mileage was when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:15 ◼ ► let me just say that the dealership is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8775">TS</a>]
02:26:17 ◼ ► pretty excited haha so how many miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8777">TS</a>]
02:26:22 ◼ ► did you have in your car after three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8782">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► years under 10,000 well are you freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► just it was just it's just under holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► yeah i drive upstate sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:39 ◼ ► are you sure what that's like 40 miles a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8799">TS</a>]
02:26:42 ◼ ► pop so I mean I don't go that often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8802">TS</a>]
02:26:45 ◼ ► times a year but have you considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8805">TS</a>]
02:26:47 ◼ ► going over chicken salad every day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8807">TS</a>]
02:26:50 ◼ ► know me but I don't even go for chickens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8810">TS</a>]
02:26:52 ◼ ► out although now i'm going i'm driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8812">TS</a>]
02:26:54 ◼ ► to the driving range so there's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8814">TS</a>]
02:26:57 ◼ ► more miles a week we expended that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8817">TS</a>]
02:27:03 ◼ ► i'm good for the environment but and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8823">TS</a>]
02:27:05 ◼ ► also good for the BMW dealership good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8825">TS</a>]
02:27:07 ◼ ► for the environment i'm good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8827">TS</a>]
02:27:10 ◼ ► brand-new 340 that came over on a ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8830">TS</a>]
02:27:14 ◼ ► from a different hero step exactly are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8834">TS</a>]
02:27:18 ◼ ► in fact actually did work with a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8838">TS</a>]
02:27:22 ◼ ► based out of helsinki that would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8842">TS</a>]
02:27:24 ◼ ► hyper accurate uh ocean current patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8844">TS</a>]
02:27:26 ◼ ► and they would they would integrate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:29 ◼ ► with navigation system so if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8849">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► your cargo ship going from say I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:33 ◼ ► germany to the United States any what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8853">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► you would look at the ocean currents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:38 ◼ ► you would say oh you know this ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8858">TS</a>]
02:27:39 ◼ ► current that's like 20 30 50 a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8859">TS</a>]
02:27:42 ◼ ► miles north of where I really want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8862">TS</a>]
02:27:43 ◼ ► but it's a current that's running you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8863">TS</a>]
02:27:45 ◼ ► know 10 knots east-west which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8865">TS</a>]
02:27:47 ◼ ► direction I'm traveling I could send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:49 ◼ ► older I could I could save eleventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8869">TS</a>]
02:27:51 ◼ ► billion gallons of fuel if I ride this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8871">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► current and so that's what they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8874">TS</a>]
02:27:57 ◼ ► yep so it actually could be not terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8877">TS</a>]
02:28:01 ◼ ► environmentally friendly but but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8881">TS</a>]
02:28:03 ◼ ► terribly environmentally hostile either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8883">TS</a>]
02:28:05 ◼ ► you going on from Germany to hear on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8885">TS</a>]
02:28:08 ◼ ► you never know the internet says my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8888">TS</a>]
02:28:10 ◼ ► wife's no car is Carla compatible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8890">TS</a>]
02:28:16 ◼ ► everything on the internet is true John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8896">TS</a>]
02:28:17 ◼ ► all right now it is it's officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8897">TS</a>]
02:28:21 ◼ ► oh god I wish I we actually saw x5m when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8901">TS</a>]
02:28:25 ◼ ► we were out doing art acolyte to earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8905">TS</a>]
02:28:28 ◼ ► yeah and she gave me these most serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8908">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► and angry side i have ever seen in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8911">TS</a>]
02:28:33 ◼ ► well she wants a mazda 6 like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8913">TS</a>]
02:28:36 ◼ ► current mazda6 like whatever mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8916">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► line is right now like an x5 m is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► that that is a giant SUV that was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:46 ◼ ► very intense physical yes I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8926">TS</a>]
02:28:49 ◼ ► imagine Aaron ever agreeing to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8929">TS</a>]
02:28:52 ◼ ► her beloved mazda6 full-size sedan with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8932">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► a giant expensive BMW SUV was he has 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:59 ◼ ► manga well i think that it left to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8939">TS</a>]
02:29:02 ◼ ► own devices I think she would either get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8942">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► another six to your guys's point or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:06 ◼ ► think she would be ok with the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8946">TS</a>]
02:29:07 ◼ ► cherokee and I know that you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8947">TS</a>]
02:29:09 ◼ ► probably not fans of grand cherokees but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8949">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► of course I wanted to get an srt eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:13 ◼ ► she has no interest in that but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8953">TS</a>]
02:29:16 ◼ ► that's what if i were to wager a guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8956">TS</a>]
02:29:18 ◼ ► would say new grand cherokee that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8958">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► said she saw I volvo what is the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:22 ◼ ► s90 whatever no not not the s xc90 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8962">TS</a>]
02:29:26 ◼ ► the SUV and she saw that outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8966">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► costco and said that she thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:30 ◼ ► that was pretty good-looking so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8970">TS</a>]
02:29:31 ◼ ► a prayer but we'll have you taken her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8971">TS</a>]
02:29:33 ◼ ► car shopping yet have you been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8973">TS</a>]
02:29:35 ◼ ► Aaron we're going car shopping and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8975">TS</a>]
02:29:37 ◼ ► are going to go where you want to go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8977">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► when I think I think it even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► eight aaron i will watch the kids while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:45 ◼ ► you go car shopping out but she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8985">TS</a>]
02:29:48 ◼ ► I I understand what you're driving at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8988">TS</a>]
02:29:49 ◼ ► here but she doesn't have any interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8989">TS</a>]
02:29:51 ◼ ► in replacing your mother she'll replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8991">TS</a>]
02:29:52 ◼ ► the monster when it falls apart i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8992">TS</a>]
02:29:54 ◼ ► think you know what you have to do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8994">TS</a>]
02:29:57 ◼ ► to sabotage your car it's habit or God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/8997">TS</a>]
02:30:01 ◼ ► is like Star Trek sex am i right am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9001">TS</a>]
02:30:03 ◼ ► right John and I write a blog that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9003">TS</a>]
02:30:06 ◼ ► real-time fall for my wife she likes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9006">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► only xtreme level has carplay so now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► car is back to having carpet are seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► you know that was wrong this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:15 ◼ ► first time yesterday okar we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9015">TS</a>]
02:30:17 ◼ ► looked into it yet will say 252 carbo on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9017">TS</a>]
02:30:21 ◼ ► no it should have or maybe it didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9021">TS</a>]
02:30:24 ◼ ► didn't see because it was dark too dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9024">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► everything to they should release that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:33 ◼ ► get in shape for trade and had no miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9033">TS</a>]
02:30:36 ◼ ► are they could have at least give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9036">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► giant bow now crying i'll add they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:39 ◼ ► extended my other release because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9039">TS</a>]
02:30:45 ◼ ► oh yeah all right I think we should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9045">TS</a>]
02:30:49 ◼ ► any other thoughts tip before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9049">TS</a>]
02:30:50 ◼ ► disappear I'm from I don't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9050">TS</a>]
02:30:55 ◼ ► oh my thought is when I started my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9055">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► in the presence of Marco in the garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9057">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► because usually when I'm driving my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:01 ◼ ► when I was taking my old car out into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9061">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► the you know pastor where I was taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:08 ◼ ► I was very spry all God because the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9068">TS</a>]
02:31:10 ◼ ► or hear the door open and so normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9070">TS</a>]
02:31:12 ◼ ► i'm likejust in the car starting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9072">TS</a>]
02:31:13 ◼ ► myself I'm backing out and like leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9073">TS</a>]
02:31:18 ◼ ► that sounds great though seriously it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9078">TS</a>]
02:31:20 ◼ ► does but loud i think definitely my next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9080">TS</a>]
02:31:23 ◼ ► car is going to be an electric car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9083">TS</a>]
02:31:25 ◼ ► feel like actually like this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9085">TS</a>]
02:31:27 ◼ ► this will be my last gasp car but didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9087">TS</a>]
02:31:31 ◼ ► we have a question for tiff about air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9091">TS</a>]
02:31:33 ◼ ► pods maybe how they fit or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9093">TS</a>]
02:31:34 ◼ ► like that maybe this was last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9094">TS</a>]
02:31:36 ◼ ► but I feel like we wanted to ask if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9096">TS</a>]
02:31:38 ◼ ► something but Marco you said that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9098">TS</a>]
02:31:39 ◼ ► had just gotten her hands on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9099">TS</a>]
02:31:41 ◼ ► pods yeah so what do you think I'm yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9101">TS</a>]
02:31:43 ◼ ► I wore them last night while you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9103">TS</a>]
02:31:45 ◼ ► are recording and they're much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9105">TS</a>]
02:31:48 ◼ ► comfortable and I wanted to wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9108">TS</a>]
02:31:51 ◼ ► mainly because i've been wearing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9111">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► glasses for the last few days I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:53 ◼ ► these eye drops that I can't wear my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9113">TS</a>]
02:31:55 ◼ ► contacts so wearing like over-the-ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9115">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► headphones is pretty horrible just moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9117">TS</a>]
02:32:03 ◼ ► oh it's just so uncomfortable anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9123">TS</a>]
02:32:04 ◼ ► went to their pods and they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9124">TS</a>]
02:32:07 ◼ ► good after a while they did start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9127">TS</a>]
02:32:09 ◼ ► hurt a little bit but i think that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9129">TS</a>]
02:32:12 ◼ ► with any in ear your bud kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9132">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► does that and it was really nice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► could just walk away from that because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:20 ◼ ► had appeared to the apple TV last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9140">TS</a>]
02:32:22 ◼ ► so I was walking around how interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9142">TS</a>]
02:32:24 ◼ ► doing laundry and getting stuff out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9144">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► the car and going upstairs and the range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:31 ◼ ► I mean like you know our house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9151">TS</a>]
02:32:33 ◼ ► made it pretty much the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9153">TS</a>]
02:32:34 ◼ ► the house and it almost a long jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9154">TS</a>]
02:32:37 ◼ ► started closing like yeah yeah it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9157">TS</a>]
02:32:39 ◼ ► just started clipping like all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9159">TS</a>]
02:32:41 ◼ ► over there or upstairs so well that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRXON-4/9161">TS</a>]
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