01:00:00 ◼ ► last summer and I started using Waze a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► lot going to Long Island is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► always a traffic nightmare especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► everyone else is going and I have since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► been using Waze so yeah for about a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► and I've been using it since then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► and Waze is so much better than every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► other traffic routing system I have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► so the point where it has earned my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► when Waze tells me to go a certain way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► go that way it has not steered me wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► yet it is so good and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► there's I know first of all it's owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► by Google and it is constantly sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► lots of data to them and really burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► your battery so you gotta have plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► in I'm aware of the trade-offs here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► you know privacy and creepiness for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► service but it's so dramatically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► better than everything else out there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► so many ways it has earned my trust and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► I highly suggest if anyone else is okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► with giving a whole bunch of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► location data to Google while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► using Waze I strongly suggest using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► when you drive somewhere and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► lots of other things about it that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► you a lot of people first heard about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► because of its it's a feature where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► people can report where police officers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► are and it'll like alert you hey there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► a police officer up ahead five you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► point five miles ahead or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► that's honestly that's a side benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► the traffic routing is really where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► at that is where Waze kicks so much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► across everything else and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► incredibly good at time estimates like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► can go on a two hour drive with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► traffic in the middle and whatever time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► estimate Waze told me at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► of the drive when I would arrive on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► two hour traffic fill drive it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► within like five minutes almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► time it's crazy how accurate the time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► Matar so unlike a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► systems I've used you know you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► don't sit there and watch the time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► discouraging like you you know ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► time roughly what you're getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► and you can even plan drives you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► like I'm going to be driving from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► to here tomorrow morning what time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► should I leave and you can scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► graph where it'll show you like well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► you if you leave an hour earlier it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► take less time and if you go near this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► stair this time zone it'll get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► traffic you but then it'll lessen out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► down here after rush hour like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► nice that it is one of the very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► things that I'm very willing to give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► a massive amount of my privacy and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► data for the incredible benefit that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► gives so John why am I wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► everything by the way that was roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► four minutes well done so yes I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► love to see what those graphs look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► if you're like in the Hamptons and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► Sunday night it should be like just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► to sleep try them try on Monday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► like if I leave now I'll get home in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► seven hours but ever leave five hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► now I'll get home in one and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► so this ways has been the topic was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► long I have no idea what I think I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► gonna say do have something one one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► fairly silly but possibly depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► thing to say about it I have ways on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► phone at various times during drives or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► before I would know what was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► take a drive I'm like we use Waze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► because there might be traffic and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► interested in alternate routes I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► tried to use Waze by launching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► application and it just sent me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► like a sign-up funnel that I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► made it through and I don't remember now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► what it is that was sending me away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► I think at least three or four times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► was motivated to use Waze I started down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► whatever funnel of sign up thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► had for me and partway through I bailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► out because it was like too onerous did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► one like my social security number did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► it I'm not one of those people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► whatever take my email I'll make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► password I don't care I'll make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► account like it's not like I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► shy about making accounts but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► something about the signup process and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► this I think it's like the first app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► it's memorable to me because I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► repeatedly motivated to try the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► because people say it's good and yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► keeps repelling me so I have no idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► it's changed since the last time I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► tried it but whatever it is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► couldn't get through to the app to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► the app because of this funnel that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► find that kind of depressing my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► for Marco is what are the competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► like you mention waves compared deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► what other things have you tried because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► I don't honestly I don't even know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► know Apple Maps I know Google Maps and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► know ways and that's it yeah so I those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► three those those are the part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► big ones I've also used the built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► systems for Tesla the Tesla system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► it has Google map tiles which is nice so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► you can see the good maps but through I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► probably some weird licensing thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► doesn't use Google for the directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► like Tesla I think has their own service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► or licensing something else for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► routing and so like the Google tiles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► literally just there like as the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► of the map and so Tesla has its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► system for routing that has options for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► for dynamic traffic routing and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► horrible I don't recommend anybody use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► it for that like to the point I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► giant touchscreen in my car which I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► all other times and will often use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► two browser on the map to see like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► know what areas around me are full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► traffic right now if I'm like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► somewhere local or I want to see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► how how would you get there the giant s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► the map is awesome for that but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► I'll have my phone in this little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► seven dollar suction cup mount right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► next to the Tesla screen running ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► when I'm actually going somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► on the highway because it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► better I'm sorry the test system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► I've also tried the Lexus system and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► or three generations of the BMW idrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► system none of them are very good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► the traffic routing on all of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► pretty poor BMW system also has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► incomprehensible wet like when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► offering youth traffic routing options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► case you've seen this like it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► pretty awkward to try to figure out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► what button here do I hit to take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► route or decline this route and then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► you decline it can you go back later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► see it or what is it going to do for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► it's it's very confusing and very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► to use all these all the other systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► have led me down crazy paths and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► that didn't pay off and made terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► time estimates along the way and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► terrible decisions along the way where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► ways just hasn't like I think I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► maybe one or two times where Waze told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► me to do something and afterwards I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► thought maybe that wasn't worth it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► it's nothing like with the other systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► where like you take one of the traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► you're like Oh God Tesla does not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► what speed traffic moves on side streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► in New York City like that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► like that's it's that level of bad with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► the other systems and ways just again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► has earned my trust it like when weighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► tells me to take some direction even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► I know that it's gonna be indirect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► know they're telling me for a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► and so I take it and it works almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► every time it's shocking how good it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► oh yeah well you have the advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► the New York metro area probably has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► incredibly good coverage for like ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► information right oh yeah I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► there's a reason why like if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► into any lyft or uber or even a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► taxis and and car services like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► drivers of almost all these services use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► Waze to route themselves like I see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► can see who watch when they like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► their phones that they have mounted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► uh comes they'll have multiple phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► one of them running like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► lyft driver app and one of them running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► ways and even if they only have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► phone like they'll be switching between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► those two F's they'll be actually using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► Waze to wrap them there and whatever map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► goober a lyft is telling them to take as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► the driver they're mostly ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► because we this is better so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► obviously like it is it is obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► very dependent service so if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► an area where there's not a lot of users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► of it it's it's not gonna be as good a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► traffic routing but it's really popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► and it's been really popular for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► time and it's really popular among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► people who drive a lot like taxi drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► so there tends to be a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► coverage pretty much everywhere in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► experience I've used the Google app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► it is suggested to me alternate routes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► don't know of goo I mean Google if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► own ways I would think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► leverage some of the information but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► if the goulds you know so every once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► a while I have taken these suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► alternate route from Google and so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► has its DB room but they haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► radically different it doesn't like take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► this major highway instead of this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► because there's an accident Mike alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► good thanks but for the most part I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► not entered the world of you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► know letting go and letting ways just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► tell me where to go so I have not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► any sort of scientific testing on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► but my completely anecdotal single data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► point based on my experience is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► Google does use the same data the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► to be a lot less aggressive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► routing you through somebody's backyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► like Marco was talking about like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► will keep you to only ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► aggressive changes of route whereas ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► will send you through a residential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► street and not even think twice about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► it also it's kind of funny when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► doing that there's almost always two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► cars ahead of you who are following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► exact same route and you can tell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► oh this is the Waze cluster right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► we're all the ways users are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► through this random residential street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► magically right in front of a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► traffic jam it's like okay well I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► that was worth it after all it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► totally true the one the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► really bothers me about ways has almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► nothing to do with Waze at all and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► the risk of sounding like a broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► record and what do I need for that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► vinyl player is that right anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► vinyl Turner I believe it's called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► vinyl Turner that's what it is at there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► is sounding like a broken record one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► the things that really bums me out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► Waze is that if I'm in Aaron's car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► she has a 20-17 xc90 a Volvo xc90 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► carplay if I'm an aaron's car and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► must run into this in the BMW if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► ever take that for any long journey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► you can't I know I know but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► use Waze natively on carplay I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► clear and it may be but that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► entirely wases fault I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► that's the case it's not there's no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► only way that other apps can integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► with carplay is as audio playing apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► that's it there's no other api's for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► no other integrations that they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► with partners or anything like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► only audio playback there you go so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► is infuriating that here is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► really lovely perfectly well maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► perfectly but really well-thought-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► secondary display for my phone that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► is right in the center console right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► where you would want to look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► there is nothing that weighs can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► about that in ways can't use it at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► and it's super duper frustrating one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► the nice things about Aaron's car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► that you know I will often plug in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► phone to her car in and so we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► looking at the car played display of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► phone on the senator display because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► it's easy for me as a passenger to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► reroute her or choose different route or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► on Apple Maps or just do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► different you know to change where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► going or so whatever they gives maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► it's nice as the passenger to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► do that but to effect the the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► that she is looking at so I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► to call out every four seconds make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► right make a left make a right make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► left she goes look down and see it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► herself and that would be amazing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► Waze and I would kill to be able to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► ways on Erin's carplay display but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► because Apple is the Walia stuff walled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► gardens no dice and this is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► problem I have a Spotify on the home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► and it is getting to the point that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► starting to get deeply frustrated about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this deeply frustrated enough to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► but I am getting deeply frustrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► this and I don't feel like Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► really doing themselves any service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► particularly in this context I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► how yeah okay fine let the home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► Drive Apple music sales fine whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► but I still disagree with it but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► at least understand the perspective but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► in this case like why are you forcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► people to use Apple maps and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► don't have that much of a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► Apple maps and I'll turn to that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► I'm doing any sort of normal like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► an hour or an hour journey but if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► doing like what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► Marco going to going to the beach or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► doing like a two-hour plus journey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► always all the time and especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► I'm going to DC which is a traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► nightmare I'm go I'm going waste for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► that and so it is infuriating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► adjectives you want to want to use here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► Apple just does not let us use the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► universally wants to use I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► understand why they like our play is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► limited I think they're just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► third-party iOS you deserve interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► up on a screen even if just for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► even just for display purposes that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► just want to be conservative and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► these are the things that we've decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► are not are don't distract drivers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► don't know that that are distraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► free enough that we feel like we are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► legal exposure yeah and and cuz and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► there's also like you know it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► difficult problem because there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► countries and even different states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► about what a car screen can display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► how much you know how much can it change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► how many items can be like in a list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► items because they don't they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► people like browsing long lists while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► they're driving like there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► regulations and stuff that it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► and again when you're dealing with auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► safety you really have to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► conservative because literally lives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► at stake if you're not and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► lots of regulations and and safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► concerns there so it makes sense why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► they don't add much to it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► reality then is what people do is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► I've done with my car is like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► just get a cell phone mount for seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► dollars and you stick it to the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► available to you yeah maybe that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► acceptable compromise because then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► you know they're they're like legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► covered he's like well we didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► you know I wonder if that's necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► the best idea but ultimately it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► really matter whether it's a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► or not that's what everyone's doing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► like and across all walks of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► everyone does is they want to use Waze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► in their car which a lot of people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► they just get a cell phone mount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► windshield and it's not the best setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► it'll be increasingly wasteful as large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► screens and cars trickles down from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► high end to basically every car which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► slowly but surely happening you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► right now you feel a frustration I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► 70 inch LCD in my Tesla and I got a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► at my little phone screen because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► can't display ways on my giant Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► screen right and the same thing with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► the high-end cars that have displays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► front of the driver and the in the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► know instrument cluster and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► fast forward 10 15 years where every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► single car you buy has like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► giant screens in them and still people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► are flipping things to ventilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► you know ports so they can look at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► tiny phone screen and have all the wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► dangling all over the place that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► bad it's not good I'm not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► what the solution is because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► think you should just let arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► phones display whatever they want on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► inevitable the only thing comparison I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► particularly not a particularly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► comparison which is radar detectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► which there are all sorts of laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► against swell but I don't think we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► manufacturer was brave enough to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► them into the car right so everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► wants to have a radar detector or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► laser detector or whatever in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► before we had ways to tell us where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► cops are would have a device with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► suction cup and a cable snaking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► along their car and it never changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► from that like even cars with a radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► you know I don't know if they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► sensors built-in for that but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► self-driving cars that have ultra senses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► all over them I don't think any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► sensors are dedicated to finding a laser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► or a radar speed detection or could even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► be hack to do so and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► crowdsourcing that's how we find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► but I'm hoping the screen issue resolves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► itself in a better way because unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► speed trap detection stuff I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► possible to have a constructive useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► non law-breaking application of better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► directions inside our cars because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► cars have some way to do directions at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► map and and all the stuff we just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► we just want an environment where we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► choose the best map for whatever area we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► live in and not have to like the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► pod or all sorts of other device not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► have to pick the hardware based on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► software runs on it yeah because and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► know at first of all like I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► is different than the radar detector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► example in in the largest way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► it's so much more mass-market than radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► detectors ever were or will be like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► many more people use cell phone mounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► in their cars than ever use radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► detectors you know and because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► always such a kind of you know edge case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► for like high strongmen basically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► and so like you know but this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► this is so mass-market like people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► Apple or Tesla who are like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► designing things for cars where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► that don't accommodate the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► everyone's gonna just use cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► solution to put any app on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► I feel like that like that fight has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► already it's already past them like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► the market has already decided we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► displayed on our phones in our cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► that's terrible because it's very unsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► like that you don't want people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► showing like you know a texting app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► something like we're like watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► YouTube videos or whatever right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► there's lots of reasons why that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► terrible but the reality is people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► doing it and people will continue to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► it because for very compelling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► totally legitimate and safe uses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► Waze or other navigation apps that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► such a compelling use that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► just gonna do it anyway so they might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► solution here is not to try to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► stop people from doing that or try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► lock people in to just you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► built-in thing and your in whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► acknowledge the fact that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► doing this and will do this and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► give them a better safer way to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► they're going to do anyway the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► Model 3 of the Interior is correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► actually throw right into it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► doesn't have vents and there is no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► where you can clip in your holder so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► you'd have to use like a windshield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► suction cup in it in that case I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► know how far away that windshield is oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► good yeah I don't know if that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► work so I I started out with a vent clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► and moved to a suction cup with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► little like you know two inch are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► foreign charm and it for just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► because the suction cup thing or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► event thing just kept falling out as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► phone got bigger and heavier and and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► I accelerated harder sometimes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► works for me because there was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► there's like a flat piece of trim right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► below the vent so I just have it suction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► cup like vertically to that but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► like I'm kind of worried that whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► the next Model S revision comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► which is probably I think gonna be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► time for my next lease I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► worried they might like change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► interior like the three and not give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► a spot to stick a suction cup then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► you'll have to do it on the windshield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► on an even longer arm because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► windshield is really far away I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► don't want to do that I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► wanna do that it puts it too too high up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► for me that's what that's that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► reminded me of radar detectors even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► though like you said you know way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► like it's the ugliness of messing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► your car's interior with this extra wart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► then you have to stick onto it plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► Associated cord that's attached to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► board well that's that's why I resisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► it for so long like why I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► do the built-in systems for so long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► then why my first thing was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► little you know vent mount because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► was something I just keep in little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► center console and just like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► wanted to use it take it out take out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► lightning cable and you know stick it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► there and use it and then when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► done I would take it away and it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► you know three or four months of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► before I look alright I'm sold on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► setup I'm in let me do it right and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► it less annoying unless finicky and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► I just have a permanent suction cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► stuck to the stuck right next to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► giant touchscreen of my beautiful car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► semi-permanent wire running down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► side because it just has that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► utility like it's it's so good it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► helpful that that's what like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► willing to tarnish my interior with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► seven dollar plastic garbage that's next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► to my beautiful screen because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► just that useful to me one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► could make this slightly less clumsy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► idea of rededicating old devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► specific uses the tricky part with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► directions is like yeah but who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► pay for a phone that only lives in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► car forever right so but some fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► schmancy cars come with their own like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► it cell connections that granted you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► have to pay for but you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► paying for an internet connection for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► like an LTE connection for your car then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► you could reuse and all the iphone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► no sim in it merely going on the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► Wi-Fi and permanently mounted or an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► ipad for that matter and permanently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► mount it somewhere in your car and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► it be a single purpose device the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► thing this thing does is runs the Waze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► application and it's permantly plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► in and i can route the wire like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► interior i have a dedicated ipod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► in my car for music purposes you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► can Bluetooth play music from my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► dedicated thing that's always in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► always connected always plugged in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► could see people doing that with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► directions if it was possible to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► work oh yeah III honestly considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► using a cellular iPad Mini for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► purpose because I feel that that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► of like a really good balance like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► doesn't cost much to have the cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► on that it's a pretty good-sized screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► bigger than any phone it's like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► like if there was a place for that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► fit in my interior without blocking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► third of the screen I might have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► that you've got a model three because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► there's nothing on that dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► playing uh anyway no it's funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► bring that up John that because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► were talking I was thinking to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► you know Aaron's car does have an LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► connection that we're not paying for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► you can like COFF near a cell cellphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► store and get a free Android phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► could get a free Android phone install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► only ways on it turn everything else off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► installed at Aaron's car and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► that be our car computer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► because it supports Android auto as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and I am almost sure even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► regardless of the fact that Google now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► owns ways I don't think they have near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► as many restrictions as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► on Android auto as as Apple does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► thus why couldn't I just get the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► crappiest you know Android phone I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► it's kind of redundant isn't it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► this is a good test of KC's sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► injustice about cell phone plans all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► right so the watch which is very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► was a great affront because it charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► you however much you charge you yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► car is very very big so how much does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► cell connection for your car cost and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► you feel it is okay I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► same or it's double one or the other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► this is why we haven't paid for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► like we got our free six gigs whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► was when we bought the car and I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► paid for it since because I also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► think that's worth the money either but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► the car is so big oh my god I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► going to entertain this conversation I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► a hundred percent true no it's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► because I'm not paying for it how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► watches could fit in them in the mass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► the car all I'm saying is like that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► firmly believe that it seems more unjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► because the watch is small then it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► for a larger I'm not debating that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► completely grew and so the car is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► largest device how often would you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► the car weighs LTE connection and versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► how often do you use the watch's LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► connection have you are you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► using the LTE still yeah two to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► times a week well not for the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► months because I just had a kid and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► please now yes anytime I go for a run I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► go with only air pods and my watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► so every time I do that I well I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► connection but I want to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► ability to does that make sense so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► if I break an ankle or something I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► to be able to call Aaron and say please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► come get me you know I would I would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► would count that as using like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► going out without your phone and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► yeah being connected via LT that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► counts as using it and this is why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► paying for it like I'm grumbling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► why grumbled about it I didn't bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► up this time thank you very much but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► did my grumbling I moved on with my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► this is why I do pay for the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► we didn't pay for the car and haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► paid for the car or the LTE connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► in the car that is because I did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► math if just in a in a figurative sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► I did the math not even literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► arithmetic and I thought you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► it's very rare that I'm in the car long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► enough to justify using its connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► even if I am i can just tether there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► really no need for me to pay for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► connection in the car would it be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► absolutely is it worth and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► either 10 or 20 bucks a month I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► remember which is it worth that money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► I only brought it up to say it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► solution one could do is get even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► you're a devout you know iOS person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► could get a free Android phone stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► tethering on your you know existing i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► you know iPhone or just hook it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► your car what-have-you use Android auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► and everyone's happy I don't recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► it but you could you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► totally fine having a $7 piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► semi-permanently but I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► would ever put an Android phone there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► could you even tell that it's an Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► phone because doesn't the way he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► interfacing look the same I would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► yeah additionally it's clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► neither of you have ever owned a radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► detector or installed one properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► because on my 300s next my Valentine one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► was hardwired into the car you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► wires absolutely nowhere he like took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► like under the trim and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► all right yeah yeah yep and also I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► remote display on the steering column so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► the bog the actual radar itself okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► you could see us like a couple inches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► wire going from the radar detector into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► the headliner but the the display for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► the radar detector was mounted on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► steering column it was a secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► display that you could buy and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► in the windshield area it was only it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► looked like another part of the dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► from afar I actually saved myself from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► ticket in Virginia where these are well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► I hypothetically saved myself from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► ticket in Virginia or these may or may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► not be legal but I haven't used my radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► detector in years because it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► worth it anymore I don't drive that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► quick I think part of the utility of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► having a hardwired and having the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► coiled up you know phone cord wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► and so you could hastily disconnect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► and Chuck into your glove box when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► get pulled over all right let's do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► ask a TP Stephen the cleaning rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► this is continuing in our car theme our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► advanced safety features found in cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► comparable across manufacturers features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► that use technology like lane departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► warning forward collision warning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► blind spot detection are offered in BMWs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► and han dice or high-end eyes whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► however you are supposed to pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► are they equally as effective or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► they much better in more expensive cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► how can one compare I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► answer to this question and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► would be a really fascinating test if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► only I knew someone who did car videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► from time to time but anyway I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► it's a really interesting question but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► have to imagine that they're nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► identical different kind of worms but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► you're not talking about automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► driving you're just talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► you know panic stopping on behalf of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► driver or something like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► nudging the driver back into the lane if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► I would assume and imagine that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► not that different between both luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► and economy marques would you guys agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► with that let's start with Marco I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► John will tell us the real answer here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► don't actually from from what I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► think these sensors and systems tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► be sold to multiple car manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► that's what I so like like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► there's like there's you know a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► number of companies that make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► kinds of systems and then they sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► to BMW and Mercedes and it like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► like they sell the same thing to models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► of people so I'm sure some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► their own stuff or have exclusives deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► on some of the things but some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► identical because they're literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► using the same modules and same software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► and and some of the stuff like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► departure warning blind spot detection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► that actually doesn't seem that hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► do like the blind spot detection we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► just kind of like lights up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► warning light on your sideview mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► when somebody's in your blind spot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► that I don't think is very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► that seems pretty reliable and pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► so like stuff like that I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► expect a lot of variation between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► manufacturers some of the harder things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► like automatic emergency braking like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► you're about to hit a wall and tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► stop that that kind of thing I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► expect to vary a little more obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► as cases anything that tries to steer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► for you like Tesla's autopilot thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► would expect that too to vary a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► because it's just a more complex problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► so John what's the real answer oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► don't know I asking me because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► same way every car magazine well in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► same way that I have never owned a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► that doesn't have three pedals unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► everyone else in this podcast I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► owned a car with any of these features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► lane-departure forward collision blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► spot detection I have never had a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► with any of those features in it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► have no idea how they work and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► I've been in the same way with the stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► shift I have been intentionally avoiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► those features because as far as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► been able to tell from reading things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► about them and being in other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► cars that have them they can be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► annoying if they can't be turned off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► if I'm turning them off then why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► hell am I paying extra to get them so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► that's a John it's so I'm I have thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► far avoided getting them it's not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► that I think they're bad I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► are good especially the things I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► you know will brake automatically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► you if you're not paying attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► stuff like that but I mean and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► ones that even been offered on cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► I've got are the ones that just use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► lane departure right and you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► the pre-tensioning seatbelts and stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► have like things that you know pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► seat belt tighter when you're in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► accident but that's not quite the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► thing as these active systems as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► what my impression of how they might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► on fancy cars which is regular cars as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► with all car technology they come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► first on the expensive cars and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► first first time you're gonna see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► lane departure whatever that was however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► many decades ago was probably on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► BMW or Mercedes or some fancy car right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► it was surely an s-class yeah and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► those features when they first come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► are not that great like the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► anti-lock brakes which was also probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► on a Mercedes or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► that great by the time aunty like bricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► comes down to the Honda Civic it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► been refined many many times over and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► the point that you get down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► anti-lock brakes are more or less the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► same from Mercedes s-class all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► down to a Honda Civic become becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► commoditized that doesn't really answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► the question for these things because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► think they are not yet come on ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► especially as Marco pointed out things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► to steer the car for you not even close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► to commoditize but I would say right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► they're bad on the expensive cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► non-existent on the cheap cars so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► don't like for features like that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► run out and get the expensive car just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► to get the feature you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► getting the worst version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► feature that is ever going to exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► whereas if you ignore that feature for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► trickles down to your $15,000 car it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► be about the same across the entire line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► across the entire auto industry that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► self driving is so much more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► I'm not sure if that applies to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► things like lane departure and anti-lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► brakes and the front collision warnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► and even like a auto following cruise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► control yeah radar cruise that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► like you know is filtering down pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► well now and maybe it's not entirely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► same across the lines maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► little bit harsher on the bottom ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► but it's way better than the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► radar cruise control that came out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► know in the 80s or whatever on cadillac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► or whoever did it first I will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► on Aaron's car she has you know pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► much all of these features and the lane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► departure or leaned control whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► tremendous I love it it will just gently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► nudge you back in the lane and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► start to drift a little bit or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► the case may be and it works really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► I really really like it a lot the panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► stop what is it called I forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► definitely does have some false alarms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► from time to time now the good news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► it's a false alarm that's where it tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► for just a flash to stop when it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► need to and I'd rather that then it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► know just to see oh I'm sure it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► and then we plow into a wall you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► but nevertheless it does occasionally go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► Wow and in it you know kind of just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► like instantaneously stands on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► brakes for you and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► let's go oh wow boy is that startling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► oh my word is that startling yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► would scare the crap out of me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► have I have like the audible alerts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► I and my car offers automatic emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► braking but I've never had it engaged I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► mean all at all I I do think it is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► and worth it because God forbid I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► paying attention and something happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► but there are definitely some false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► frustrating and that actually reminds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► that on the Grand Cherokee that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► briefly borrowed before I got the Julia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► I noticed that every time I was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► stoplight I think I might have talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► about this on the show I was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► two-lane stop yesterday I'm making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► left and you know I was adjacent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► somebody I would start to make the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► and it would go berserk because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► thought I was I was having a collision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► with the person next to me and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► but that's the only instance I can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► different behavior on safety stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► manufacturers but I as we've all said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► different conversation that has not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► really been standardized the next one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► mostly from Marco this is Geoff Cooney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► writing what is the deal with Leica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► industrial design particularly the M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► models but upon doing some research it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► seems like their features in spray specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► are no better than other cameras from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► leading companies like canon or sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► that cost thousands of dollars less what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► am I missing about these cameras that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► commands this exorbitant premium I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► know anything about like the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► other than that they look pretty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► that they're super duper expensive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► I'm actually kind of curious as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► Marco what's the story here like has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► been around for a very long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► engineering and they have built up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► really strong reputation for a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► time among high-end usually like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► artsy or hobbyist photographers not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► necessarily pros because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► quite make gear that would satisfy most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► like pro needs if you're like a wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► photographer or something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► you probably not using a Leica for lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► of reasons but the they are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► expensive and some of that you are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► paying for the brand but they do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► lot of good qualities that make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► compelling to certain people some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► is just like if you have a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► and you want really a really cool camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► like you go like it like some I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► I've heard them called dentist cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► but Wow yeah but and I I should clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► I have very little experience with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► I rented an m9 for Christmas a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► ago I actually made a big blog post with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► some simple pictures about it and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► found what a lot of people find I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► with them is that like the raw specs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► it were not very competitive especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► for the price things like the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► like the noise performance and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► resolution on the sensor was nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► near competitive with good sensors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► you know of the same time frame things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► features like like I don't think any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► them offer video you know or least they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► didn't for a long time it it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► you're paying a really high price for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► not top-of-the-line technology within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► them but what really impressed me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► impresses me today about them is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► major areas number one the optics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► their lenses are just incredible now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► when I when I when I rented the m9 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► vert this post back in in Christmas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► 2012 Sony the Sony Fe II series was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► really quite there yet I think it either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► wasn't out or was it was just the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► first models and Canon had not updated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► lot of their lenses the way they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► recently and so at back then in 2012 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► Leica M lenses were some of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► lenses you could get in the industry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► to get the like what blew me away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► with my rental of it was the sheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► optical quality that this like basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► small lens provided it was it was a 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► millimeter you know f2 prime something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► zoom Acron something I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► and it and it was like a $3,000 lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► like I mean that's it this is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► rented a but it was still like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► optical quality blew me away now today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► we have a lot more options that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► provide really good optical quality like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► basically in the last you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► revolution in lens design especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► coming out of Sony and then later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► and unfortunately Nikon people I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► been following Nikon that closely I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► apologize again but you know clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► like the the massive upgrade in lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► quality and in krez Ellucian especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► coming out of Sony and Canon over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► last few years has been astronomical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► so like now I feel like you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► similar optical quality if not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► maybe better optical quality out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► lenses from other manufacturers but back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► then you couldn't so that was one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► that blew me away that's still like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► looking looking at this blog post I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► like still to this day it's still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► really good optics and really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► pictures coming out of this the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► thing that like it has going for it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► lot of the times is that the way a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► camera interprets the data coming off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► its sensors is not all the same between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► different camera manufacturers every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► manufacturer and oftentimes even between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► different models have different ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► interpreting the the raw sensor data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► then they have different ways to apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► things like color tone and color balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► and contrast and sharpening and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► like that you know the what you get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► the raw sensor is not anywhere close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► the final picture with any camera iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► all the way up to you know like a em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► whatever like us processing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► photos is just really appealing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and a lot of people like the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► renders colors the way it renders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► contrast and things like it just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► really nice pictures without a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► effort without having to do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► post-processing on them or without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► having to like manually tweak a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► everything else it's again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► another ones area where it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► interest personal preference like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► TIFF does not like the way my Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► cameras render colors she she she can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► get the color balance she wants out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► my Sony's I can't get the color balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► I want out of canons it's it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► personal preference and Leica has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► own color balancing that it does that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► me is just incredibly appealing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► that's been one of the only things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► that's ever really tempted me to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► that another try maybe and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► buy one is just like the color rendering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► is just incredible on them and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► way it renders tones and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► just really nice so there's areas about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► that aren't just about the specs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► this it's hard for it especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► I was getting into this at this hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► and as I've developed over time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► in this hobby it's been hard for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► learn that and and to feel that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► like to me it was so much all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► specs for so long but now I'm realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► like there's more to it than that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► the appeal of Leica in part it is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► like you know like a rich dentist slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► hipster thing because they're cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► it's there's reasons that you would buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► it that aren't just because it's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► like it actually backs that up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► really nice photo processing really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► you know tones and colors and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► and it's just stunningly good optics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► most of their lenses so that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► there's also a couple other like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► know they have so many different models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► everything I just said was based on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► experience with the m9 that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► updated lots since then there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► full-frame rangefinder models there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► there they have a couple of mirrorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► interchangeable lens yet it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► actually do a fair number of models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► these days they have some that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► shoot in black and white and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► have to play with that one that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► black and white only one it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► some kind of like meryl asthenia direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► competitor to the Sony rx1 what blew me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► away about it was compared to at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► time my a7 r2 that I had it was way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► responsive like you could the viewfinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► it was like the difference between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► 15 frames per second and 60 frames a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► second like it was like the viewfinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► was like just it was like looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► through a piece of glass like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► even though it was electronic you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► looking through a sensor it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► such a high refresh rate so should i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► frame rate was just precise fast you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► snap pictures just boom boom boom boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► boom it would not slow down it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► satisfying to use and again the tones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► that I saw out of that graph this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► like literally playing with a friend's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► camera at a conference for five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► so I didn't get a lot of use out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► but like it was very compelling and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► at the time I had a need for a fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► lens camera that you couldn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► lenses on where I actually wanted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6118">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► particular lens I would have seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► considered that so yet more qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► that cameras can have that are not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► specs and that are hard hard to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► if you might mention it but you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► zoom past it because you think it's BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► or or you don't think that's a speck or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► you don't care but Leica has earned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► reputation for good reasons they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► not line up with what you want in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► camera and they you know it's up to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► whether you think it's worth they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► quite high prices but there are reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► I'm surprised you don't have one I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► you don't know that I don't have one no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► I don't have you also need to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► attention to this adorable picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► baby Adam in this post my little thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► for sponsors this week away Linode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► ero and we'll talk to you next week now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► they didn't even need to begin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► notes a day follow them CAS UIL ISS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► that's Casey less and a RC own a RM ante [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► do we have your baby updates it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► find actually the thing that's that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► maybe not interesting but the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► thing that we've been fighting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► lately is we moved Declan to a toddler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► bed or whatever you call it so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► instead of being in a full-on crib he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► in a bed that he can easily climb out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► and has been for a few months now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► forget exactly how long but it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► not insignificant insignificant amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► of time but over the last couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► weeks particularly this is this had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► started before Michaela but it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► particularly egregious the last vault a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► few days most especially but egregious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► in general in the last few weeks he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► get out of his bed and tell us like come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► to our room record you know whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► case may be and tell us I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► sleep time or I'm hungry or I'm thirsty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► or my favorite legitimate complaints how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► are you addressing this I'm hungry in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► many in a very very gentle way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► obviously paraphrasing but I'm hungry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► tough noogies he should have eaten more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► before we warned you about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► he came upstairs you're not getting any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► more food I'm thirsty is here's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► you know cup of water drink it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► you're done and then eventually actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► have gotten to the point of leaving him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► a bottle of water in his room just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► get away from the I'm thirsty complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► you know the answer as well you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► bottle of water in your room drink it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► but my favorite is I don't like rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► time in which case it's like well how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► you say to a three-year-old tough shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► this happens every night like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► there's no reasoning with them do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► ever come in and say I missed the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► that his baby stole for me no not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► not yet dark because I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► what he's saying maybe maybe it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► couldn't be the universal kid thing of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► don't want to go to sleep right now well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► and that's what that's what I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► attributing it to genuine well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► he's describing this as a change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► behavior so I'm saying what's changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► recently in declan's life well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► gotten worse since Michaela like you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► think you're both right to be honest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► I think I personally come down more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► marco side but again I think you're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► right it started before Michaela but got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► worse in the last week or two and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► favorite is when he comes out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► room Declan why are you out of your room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► yeah you can tell like even like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► Adam does that too sometimes and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► like you can tell like you know what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► you need you can tell the gears start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► turning at that point to come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► something say it's so true I mean so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► one issue is is he's still napping right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► well sort of so right he he has quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► time in his room where he is allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► like get out of bed and play quietly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► whatever and I would say between a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► and a half of the days he will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► sleep for that and the other two-thirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► we over half to two-thirds he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► sitting there playing in his room or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► his bed yeah so what we found and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► think a couple of our friends have also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► found so it seems to be a thing is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► transitioning out of nap phase really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► like yeah yeah yeah you're go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► point where most days he shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► having a nap and what we found is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► when we were in that phase the days that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► he would nap would be the days that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► would just be impossible to keep in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► because he just wasn't tired enough like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► it when you start think about that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► it's like well you're the best thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► can do it sounds like you're probably at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► that phase so just stop napping like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► and and do what you can to make it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► he does not nap like don't like take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► mid-afternoon interface and even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► that like don't like trying to give him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► a chance to nap try to keep him from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► doing that by various activity planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► or anything because then when bed time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► rolls around he will be tired enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► that he will just go to bed and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► give you as hard of a time about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► because he'll just be so tired like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► that's what we found you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► about moving his bed time to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► like I know like you have a routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► you're like great we have a child and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► the child owes goes to bed at X o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► that is going to change and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► going to change like on its own you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► to consciously think oh he's not six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► months anymore now he's three should his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► bedtime be different right and repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► until they're five and 10 and 13 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► you can't as much as I love would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► to do i love the naps I love being let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► put the kids to bed at 7:30 with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► sadly does not last yeah I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► mean it's fine and the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► things things could be so much until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► until they encroach on every waking hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► well life's like wait a second if by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► time the kids are in bed it's time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► me to go to bed when is my time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► like that's right it's gone it's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► isn't it no naps and they go to bed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► the same time as you welcome to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6501">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► Shack I'm still jealous so TIFF and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► have you know we go on special occasions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► on time to the Shake Shack normally our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/5">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► order is a Shack burger each which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► the cheeseburger like the basic like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/9">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► burger each we share in order of cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► fries and we share a black-and-white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► shake solid today we decide because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/21">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► every time when you finish that burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/25">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► because it's such a good burger but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► also a relatively small burger every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/29">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► time you order that you think I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► second burger so today we decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/34">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► splurge being that his Valentine's Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► this was our special trip to the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/41">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► just to eat Shake Shack and we got three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► burgers and we cut the third one in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► actually a very good choice yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► turned out we were pretty full but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► was not like a mistake well you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► you really uh you know stress yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► out a little bit with all the top four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► episodes now you're able to handle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► much exactly there is the no Shake Shack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► anywhere near me I think the nearest one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► is in DC which is like a two-hour drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► and it makes me so sad because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► as with what is it in and out like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and out I think is very tasty but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► little bit overrated and I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► overrated but but what I'm driving at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► that some of the appeal is that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► not approximate is that'll work the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► I'm looking for it's not near me and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► because it's not near me I seek it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► yearn for it in a way that I very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► do for in and out even though I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► say like you know in and out is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► where Shake Shack is great I'm surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► you asked mark or what he got at Shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► there's like nothing on that menu they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► expanded it quite a bit over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► they've expanded what well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► there's like burgers there's chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► sandwich now there's oh there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► the mushroom vegetarian sandwich I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► there's a treatment option now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► hot dogs that there's a lot like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► no about the hotdog they've got like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► kinds of burgers a hot dog a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► different kinds of shakes and fries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► good and the mushroom burger don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/132">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► forget that I said a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► kinds of burgers I get the Shack burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/135">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► to this it's like that's you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► I like the burger it's a good burger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► uh it has better fries I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► I've had it and out before I have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► five guys there's those around here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► I find them incredibly disappointing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► don't I don't think five guys is even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► the same league like to me five guys I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► rather just have like McDonald's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► Burger King or Wendy's like it's it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► that it's at that little way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► insane Five Guys is so much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► McDonald's burger right so hold on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► five guys if I'm not mistaken started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► either in Virginia in the DC suburbs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► in DC proper and so I feel some amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► of need to defend Five Guys five guys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► me is the kind of burger you have once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► year because it is this is here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/173">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► Simpsons reference for you jobs it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► you a year to forget how bad it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► how worth it it isn't and Shake Shack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► better but five guys I think is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► good so here's the thing with five guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► though is that it's so unbelievably and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► unabashedly greasy not to say it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► tasty but it's so greasy I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► so I think I think Shake Shack is grease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► haven't had five guys in a while so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► maybe right but the point I'm driving at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► it's like dr. Nick when he was telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► Homer how to get fat and he just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► held up a piece of chicken or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► like that to the wall or to a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► paper or something I don't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► exact reference but you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► says hey if it's see-through then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► can eat it and that's how you gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/214">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► really fat I feel like that's I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► like that's five guys yeah and so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► it even if I only have like my typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► order is a little bacon cheeseburger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► I say that as I go off and I go again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► like once a year but I feel like after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► have my little bacon cheeseburger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► fries I feel like a beach I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► it's called a little burger - dude like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► I love it like they make you like trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► to shame you into not overeating it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/238">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► like they make you say the indignity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► like can I have the little burger please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► like its shape check if you say The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► available in single or double patty but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► the default is single which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► what you should get like you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► to say can I please have the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/252">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► burger you have even though that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► yeah so anyway so the point of driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► out is after I eat one I or after I eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► at five guys I need like six months to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► year to recover because I feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► you gotta you gotta train yourself up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/265">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► because we get five guys here all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► time I mean shit we have Shake Shack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► five guys both close to us so we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► them both plenty and yeah I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► you're thinking with the grease bomb is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► Five Guys fries they're just grease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► bombs and are varying quality and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► give you like that's the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► I think it's must be in their manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► when somebody artist fries fill up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► whatever cup size they told you to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► does more but also dump a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► more which is fine like as far like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► place it in a bag and then pour more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► fries on top of it such that the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► bottom of the bag so your cup of fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► is padded from damage by other fries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► I think that's a good corporate policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► because potatoes are cheap right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► they've got them stacked up in the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► there and they give you more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► could ever possibly want some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► feel like that's generous especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► the ridiculous prices everybody charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/313">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► for these rehearse right for you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► seems like five guys fans rave about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► their fries a lot honestly I find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► absolutely nothing special and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► maybe this is just because the five guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► terrible location like maybe it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► bad five guys but again one area where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► think Shake Shack has done very well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► it so far I've eaten that probably five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► or six distinct Shake Shack locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/336">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► and they are remarkably consistent they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► consistently good for me everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► tastes like exactly the same what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► you what are your uh Shake Shack fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► what what kind of that because they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► changed them and it might be location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/348">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► specific we have what used I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► used to be the only kind which is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► almost look like frozen crinkle-cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► fries yep all right that's what we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► to but they they went to shoestring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► a while near us and it was grim no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► that's that's bad that's bad it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► good but their's weren't those we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► good so they changed back but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► particularly good oh I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► wonderful to me like Shake Shack fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► they taste like like frozen fries from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► your childhood except done really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► and also I don't find them greasy really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► at all like you know beyond what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► know the minimum required to deep-fry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► something but like you know where Five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► Guys fries I feel like could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► piece of paper clear by just going near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► that piece of paper I Shake Shack fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► really don't seem greasy at least five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► guys has the Cajun option if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► yeah but Shake Shack fries are so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► put cheese on top of them and the cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► fries are really good no the cheese is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► gross it's like Cheez Whiz like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► Casey's Velveeta it's nope it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► it's it's like it's lighter in color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► than like a slice of American cheese or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► like most nacho cheese sauce I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/411">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► food it's definitely some kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► know well it is because it melts very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► well but it's it's a really nice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► distributions always really nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► they give you that little wooden stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/423">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► to pick up the fries with it's so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► i'm with marco in this however i do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► to also bring up for those of us who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► from mr. Velveeta was the fake cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► surprise surprise I also need to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► up for those of you who live south of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► the mason-dixon specifically in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► around North Carolina there's a chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► called cookout wherein you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► truly heinous amount of food for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► hilariously small amount of money and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► you've never experienced cookout but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► have the opportunity you need to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► guess what like you had just cooked them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► at a cookout or as some people is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► where is it that they call any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► like picnicky cookout thing of barbecue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► which is completely bananas is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► northeast of the whole country except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► for the south BBQ is its own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► anyway honestly I gotta say I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► I don't and I'm using the lowercase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► version of the cookout word here I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► like cookout burgers most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► burgers I in my opinion are best made on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► a flat griddle surface whereas when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► put it on like that the rack of a grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► especially the way most people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► most most people or just amateur you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► know barbecue cooks or grill cooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► whatever whatever word you use for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► that large metal box that you would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► hamburgers and hot dogs in for me my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► move is always to go for the hot dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► because first of all it they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► less filling usually so like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► depending on how hungry you are you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► a more room for the side dishes which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► are always better or one and a half if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► you're yeah it's and and hot dogs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► pretty much impossible to screw up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► whereas burgers on people's grills are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► always usually they're way overdone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► they're also usually way underseasoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► and a hot dog you put it on the grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► it's already cooked you just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► and maybe you get a little bit of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► split on the skin like a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the bubbly nice on the skin from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► heat and that's it you put it in a bun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► you put anything or nothing on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► it totally takes the the barbecue cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► out of the equation unless they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► seriously horribly burn it but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► pretty rare and pretty hard to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► cookout get yourself a cookout tray I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► mean you can can they consider a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► quesadilla as a side item that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► you need to know that's all you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/560">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► know the whole Faye my whole family can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► eat there for like under 15 bucks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► god I love cookout anyway we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► probably start the show lest I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► about food for the entire night you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► to talk politics we can do that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► little while because I'm really fired up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► I mean act now that we talked like fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► I feel like politics is a much safer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/578">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► can we just ban all guns let's just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► that can we all agree on that good I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► glad we talked all right let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► with some follow-up and I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► talk about any of this battery stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► anymore so one of you do it I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► to either why are we still doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► don't know I'm talking about it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► just I just wanted to give some we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► still getting feedback about it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► much is certain I'm talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► here let's talk about people can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► send us stuff and I just wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► some representative samples from real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► life listeners covering the spectrum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► the type of feedback we're getting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► did I just hear a beer cracker Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/615">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► I've never loved you more than I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► you right now sorry what were you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► John I'm saying I didn't practice how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► pronounce these people's names because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► don't think I'd be doing it sound you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► don't have to do it we can skip doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► just gonna go with bigger ditch I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/631">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► more beers to open oh my god that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► close you gotta try so we have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► follow-up about my task managers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► just you just gotta read them that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► we have to do it's not complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► there's no discussion required you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► have to read the feedback oh god why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► we so talking about the batteries I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► don't know we're not talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► we're reading feedback that's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► three items there there there needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► be no discussion about it we can can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► read in our minds and then not talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► here we go here we go I'm over it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► over here we go here we go this is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► gonna speedrun it one person said done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► and done so I've really reason I picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► representative of the entire spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► one person saying my battery's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► I have terrible problems one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► saying that you know I had slowdowns I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► fix it with clean install one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► saying I had slowdowns gonna fix it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► the battery thing I just want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► that out of it because lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► think that the various descriptions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► things that might happen that we offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► hypothetical or completely one-sided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► every possibility is encountered for by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► people that's we're trying to express in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► these shows you think you know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► how everybody is handling it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► throttling it's never throttling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► cleanness all always fixes that clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► install never fixes that battery always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/708">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► fixes it better than that it's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► we're getting real accounts of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► actually a complicated nuanced issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► I'm sorry for all the people who think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► it is 100 percent whatever their bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► theory is I hereby declare this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► done serious permanently done I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► say why you brought it up John but alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► particle in this we're done all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► was talking and I guess it made it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the show I never listen to show after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► it's released I was talking under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► influence of a beverage or two about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► my photo management Swift Console app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► and one of the things I've said is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► I wanted to verify that if I find a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► collision whether or not those two files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► are the same file and the reason I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► some of the choices I made is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► this app was written just for me and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► my particular scenario all of the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► versions of the files are stored on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► Synology I'm a network attached storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► and so what I was saying was hey I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► to md5 all these files to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► they're identical or not make decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► based on that and more than a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► wrote in to say usually very very nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► you friggin idiot the first thing you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► is check the size of the files and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► you worry about md5 in them which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► really annoying because I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► thought of that myself and didn't so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► didn't mention it because I assumed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► were doing that so yes you should feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► shame I feel shame and I am admitting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► honestly I'm with you Casey I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► have thought of that like yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► check the file sometime only md5 at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► file size as a match I probably wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► have thought of that no you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/797">TS</a>]
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00:14:01 ◼ ► care I tried I think three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► different grocery list apps we had lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/844">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► of recommendations for these I I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► try anything to replace things as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► main to-do app because I tried enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► those already and honestly trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► apps giving them like a real shot is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► time-consuming and cumbersome that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► don't want to try million of them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► I'm very happy with things now it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► so for the grocery list role you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► mentioned that I use clear and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► using clear for years and it's been fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► but I would like something that has Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► integration so I can quickly add to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► list so a bunch of people wrote in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► suggested a lot of different apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► make grocery lists and do things in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/881">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► smart way I found all of them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/882">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► and/or too complicated some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► tried to be too smart a lot of them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► know I mentioned that one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/893">TS</a>]
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00:14:57 ◼ ► easy for me to just drag and reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► things to be in the order in which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/898">TS</a>]
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00:15:57 ◼ ► grocery shopping that's too much for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/957">TS</a>]
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00:17:22 ◼ ► very simple list app now which so far is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1042">TS</a>]
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00:19:45 ◼ ► be using coasters under our home pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1185">TS</a>]
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00:19:54 ◼ ► home pods which actually quick aside did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► either of you get a home pod yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1196">TS</a>]
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00:20:52 ◼ ► integration and and they were kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► enough to send me some units to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► with and everything and so I have the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► have a few of those in the house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► needed a place to put it so I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► I hardly ever used the sono stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► when I do I hardly ever play things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► of that output usually it's out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► living room output so I have a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► short squat white speaker that is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► for music than assistant type things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► already sitting next to my echo so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► could just remove the Sonos play:1 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► put a home pod there and then I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► continue using the pair of them the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► I have been using the pair of them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► far which is I use the Amazon echo for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► kitchen timers and that kind of personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► assistant stuff at the home pod is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► not so great at and especially timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► come on why is that come on and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► could theoretically then use the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► pod for music there I haven't done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► yet but if I wanted to try one out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► eventually you know I hope I hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► much that this summer at everybody see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► we hear of new sirikit intents that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► involve audio playback services I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► really hope Fame and honestly my hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► confidence is not that high I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► think we're gonna actually get that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► really hope I'm wrong though I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► hope we do if we do then overcast has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► something to do on the home pod and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► I will have to get one for testing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► that will be a sensible place to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► but until that happens and unless that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► happens I'm still not that compelled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► try it but if I did put a home pod there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► that is actually a finished MDF wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► piece so I don't think I would create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► ring and if I did create a ring it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► already white so it wouldn't really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► visible so to back up the issue that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► that's at hand is that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► starting to notice that when you set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► your home pod on some kinds of wood or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► maybe treated wood maybe untreated wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► to be honest it doesn't really matter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► the grand scheme of things but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► see your home pod on wood it will more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► likely than not leave a ring from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► base of the home pot on the wood so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► don't see how there's really a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► argument or discussion about this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► this seems like it's bogus and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► poor design and a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► saying no no no no no you should put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► something like that but who's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► that who says that oh you'd be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► John I'm lucky I must be a good doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► good job of curating my Twitter fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► because I have not seen a single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► say I I gotta say there's there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► of people out there who feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► their job to explain Apple to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► and sometimes this is a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► service and sometimes it's just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► basically being Apple's PR department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► for them and I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► healthy for anybody that's not healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► for Apple it's not healthy for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► trying to make like you know a writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► or blogging or analysis career and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► not health and it isn't healthy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► audience you know in fact I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► give a shout out here there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► podcast called the menu bar that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► restarted a few weeks ago spoiler I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► gonna be the guest on it next week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► so this is partially you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► promotional but I suggest you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► the menu bar eat it is a very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► good angle of Apple critique and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► just Apple it actually is a critique of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► the entire tech industry there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► really like a fresh take of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► is worth hearing and because it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► just like oh the keyboard sucks oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► know the home pod blah it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► it's not the kind of stuff like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► you're tired of me criticizing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► it's not that like this the way I do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► like they do it in a much better way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► a much more interesting and constructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► and and thoughtful way so I strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► suggest checking out the menu bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► podcast I'll put a link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► notes and I'll have it appear here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► the chapter are basically the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► that I brought up is the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► things they said in a couple of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► episodes now is that they don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► like they need to basically like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► Apple's PR department you know for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► anytime Apple does anything wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► fans and sometimes writers and mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► honestly just fans a certain subset just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► thinks it's their job to jump out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► and defend Apple in ways that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► like if the home pod has this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► which it certainly appears that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► this is absolutely the like it's a flaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► it's simple as that like it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► like end the world it's not gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► the home pod a flop it's not gonna cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► some kind of massive recall or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► it's an embarrassing flaw we heard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► months that the home pod Hardware has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► been done for like a long time and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► were just waiting on the software the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► hardware is done it's awesome it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► perfect and then there's a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► problem there's an actual hardware flaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► that shipped and and not a not a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► one it just seems like it's just yet yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► another thing about this product launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► that's just sloppy and rushed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► apparently the hardware wasn't done well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► enough or they found this problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► decided it wouldn't matter and shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► anyway kind of like when they knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► the MacBook keyboards were bad from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► first MacBook I decided to bring them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► across the whole lineup anyway somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► like things are falling apart in weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► ways flaws are getting shipped that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► should not get shipped that is cause for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► concern even if this particular flaw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► don't think is that bad or doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► affect you we are seeing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► embarrassing flaws that get out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and it seems like either this product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► was not tested to the degree that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► heard that it was and the hardware was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► as recently or as far back as we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► it was or if any of the employees who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► had these take home units that we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► about that they were all over campus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► you know all over people's houses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► certainly somebody must have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► issue and must have reported it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► either they didn't do enough testing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► they found this issue and decided not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► only was it not worth addressing and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► changing the the foot of the home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► changing the material or adding some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► kind of like pad or something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► not only was it not worth addressing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► the hardware but it wasn't even worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► mentioning anywhere in the manuals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► it's something's wrong there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► mistakes are getting out that should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► get out that's that I think ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► big picture not just the home pod ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► of death or whatever that is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► concerning thing to me about Apple right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► now and that when these flaws come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► one of the main reactions from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► both inside and out is defensiveness not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► actually going back and getting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► problems fixed one interesting theory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► heard is that it's not actually a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► problem but a manufacturing problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► that some manufacturers responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► making that smushy little ring cheaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► out in a way they thought wouldn't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► parent but ends up being a parent and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► could be that all the Apple people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► got the take home things got the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► properly manufactured rings in the bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► they didn't have this problem but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the mass production ones like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► some supplier cheap doubt nothing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► also that's obviously also apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► responsibility but I can think of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► sorts of ways how this can get out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► know not because Apple didn't test it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► thoroughly or or didn't pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► something that appears for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► time in the mass-produced models the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► customers get which would be a bummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► but it's plausible but happily makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► lot of products that sit on tables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► desks why has like why hasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► happened before I know that made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► makes me think like like do you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► think I mean obviously the home cut we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► expect them to test this right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► what we're getting at it's like you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► like you know this thing is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► sitting on people's furniture all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► the place like it's the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► this device right but I think when I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► this I think about do you like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► on my Mac Pro markup furniture I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► guess they don't because there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► much expectation that the Mac Pro my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► cheese grater is going to be all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► the house and all sorts of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► kinds of furniture it's basically gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► be on desks or underneath desks do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► think they test with a little rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► feet on the bottom of iMacs markup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► things that they're put on I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► going to guess that they don't like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► materials but they don't basically don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► test it at all because I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► just doesn't seem like it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► not a product like the home pod where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► they show it literally unlike here we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► gonna put it on your you know end table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► or on your whatever right so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► I think it is it's much more relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► the home pot but it does make me realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► that this blind spot in and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► probably extends to a lot of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► products like for everything from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► the plastic that they make their cords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► out of to all the different feet on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► probably the feet on laptops they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► test in the same way that they that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► expect them to taste the home pot but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► bet they don't test it on Macs right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► mean even if you have a wooden desk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► I don't know maybe someone should write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► in and tell us do you have a Mac it sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► on a wooden desk and has marred the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► plausible because I honestly don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► different desk services whereas the 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► should have and perhaps did test the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► home pod also two different services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► it's just weird and here again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► it's a it's an instance of arguably an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► communication up front might've maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► not solve the problem it helped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► problem now I still think it's bogus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► still think it's bogus that if you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► this thing on on wood without putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► something in between it that a twitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► that it could screw up the wood like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that's messed up full-stop but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► certainly would have been nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► somebody else made that and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► remember who was right well yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► maybe was him that said oh you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► knew that the jet-black iPhones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► gonna scratch we knew it upfront we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► okay with it because we knew what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► were getting what's the line from it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► it was Batman Dark Knight where they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► you know if you something along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► lines of Joker says you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► expect something people or totally fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► it's when something unexpected happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► that they lose their minds and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► you can expect that you're brand new you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► know eight hundred all our iPhones going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► him come and that's cool because we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► what's gonna happen but you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► don't expect this ring just show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► everyone loses their minds and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► too I'd be upset I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► entirely about expectations though like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► I understand the communication angle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► I think the comparison to the phone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► highlights how how different this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► right so whether people are aware of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► or not the trade-off that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► making with the phone that scratches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► more an apple does advertise this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► doesn't connect it up as much is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► you know they made softer glass in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► less often right so that's a trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► that they're making they're like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► make the glass really really hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► then it's more likely to shatter if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► make it softer it's more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► scratch that that's a trade-off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► advertised about how much more durable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and less likely to shatter the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► and isn't they also tell you it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► scratch more and they don't connect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► two of them for you but I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► they're connected right so all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that's you know and then they warn you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► upfront that's communication right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► the ring thing even if they had warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► me I'd be like oh thanks for telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► I shouldn't buy this because there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1918">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► trade is the sound better because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► makes rings on my furniture I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► think it is I don't think there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► material that makes it better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► non-marking rubber I don't think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► right there is no trade-off it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► plain simple something bad about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► you could say if they had warned I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► say it's great that I know us know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► while I wait for my defective unit to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► replaced for free Apple thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► warning me but I'm not going to take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► as oh they warned me and so now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► it's okay it's not okay because as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► as I can tell there is no trade off it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► not a design decision it is a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► and it is a mistake that can cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► cosmetic damage to things in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► and that I feel like is unacceptable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► don't think Apple will recall these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► because of it but honestly I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► think they should if they really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► have a reputation as a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► stands behind its products basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► they should say we're not gonna recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► all of them but if your home pod marks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► up your furniture send it back to us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► we'll send you no more the foot doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► mark it up that's the right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► as far as Apple is concerned as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► I'm concerned for Apple to do or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► just keep everybody like a doily or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► coaster to put it on a fine Corinthian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► leather coaster no they don't they mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► you need to not have things that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► it's not a glass of it's not a glass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► iced water it's gonna sweat and leave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► ring like it there's no water it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► furniture I'm sorry I'm guessing we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► no actual response from them on this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► who knows I mean well no we did get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► response because they put in a new fuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► the response was you're holding it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► cleaning cleaning and taking care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► refinish your table yeah where to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► your home it's not unusual for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► speaker with vibration damage silicone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► base to leave the mild marks one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► them is you think it's not unusual I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► don't know it seems pretty unusual to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► like I I have to think there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► vibration damping material that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► put on the bottom of a speaker that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► not mark wood services right I mean lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► of you know this one lots of speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► use the really really pointy feet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► would leave like actual holes in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► things you know but at least that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► obvious when you see the really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► point it just doesn't seem to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► there that that material is so special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that there is no replacement that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► it would you know it would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► impair that speaker's sound quality if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► they used a different kind of rubber I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► don't see that and honestly I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► PR response to this is poor well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► their defense as we record there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► like an afternoon and evening worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► time for their to have a response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► because this just broke earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► did it not yes okay so I mean let's give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► them a little slack there may be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► sort of response cop yeah now we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► we don't know what their reaction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► gonna be I'm just saying that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► reaction thus far seems insufficient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► me and there's no again it's not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► need to recall them all like defective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► airbags and cars or something if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► has it and it's sitting on a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► piece of furniture that it doesn't mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► person's thing or whatever but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► someone has one of these and it leaves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► mark on their furniture they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► able to say Apple take this back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► give them our money back or which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► can do if they're inside the return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► window or Apple take this back and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► me one that doesn't leave a ring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► Apple should do that I'm not even going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► so far as to say all Apple has to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► for the damages to your furniture which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► would also be nice but is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► unfeasible in terms of logistics but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► it's it they it's a mistake I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► it's probably an honest mistake I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► imagine how this slipped through but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► it's not acceptable there is no this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► not a design trade-off like phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► screens that scratch a little easier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► exchange for not shattering as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► would you guys do you have any thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► tear downs those were done between last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► episode and this one so we didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► surprised by what was in there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► it's kind of it's very interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► like to see a lot of a lot of a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► that's the way that it's structured and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► built I think one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► weird surprises for me is how none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► like the woofer fires up and the tweeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► is fired down like the whole middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► it you know it's covered in cloth so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► kind of get the feeling it's like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► big speaker but in fact the speakers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► firing out of the top and bottom out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► little vents and there's nothing firing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► out the sides the sides are just solid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► indication like during WDC of what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► approximately so I'm not I'm not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► terribly surprised by that but I to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► honest I did not get a chance like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► teardown so I don't really know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► Oh also while we're on the subject of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► tear downs gotta also give massive shout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► out to the season finale of this season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► of welcome to McIntosh the podcast by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► mark Graham Hill that it was it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► interview about interview with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► wonderful tear downs about repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► recyclability of our devices it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► really good and really makes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► about things like a waste and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► way these products are being built and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► manufactured and designed and and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► that you know there are ways you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2219">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► design something for repair ability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► then later recyclability and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► ways that you can make that harder or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► impossible and you know Apple seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► obviously parts of Apple that care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► deeply about the environment and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► recyclability of things but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► their Harvard designs are very hard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► impossible to recycle some pretty major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► parts they don't necessarily need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► done that way so I think it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► good episode worth a listen and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► certainly any thought-provoking we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2249">TS</a>]
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00:37:40 ◼ ► off your awesome suitcase away suitcases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► if you finally design this suitcase for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► the modern age they use high quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► materials they eliminate all the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► people and sell directly to you so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► wonderful modern amenities so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► example they have a built-in compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► system so you can really cram a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► there and have it be nicely packed down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► to leave more room for even more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► because everyone needs that at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► point they have four spinner wheels on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► every suitcase that have 360 degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► rotation which completely changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► way you can maneuver a suitcase as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► go throughout an airport they have a tsa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► approved combination lock built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► top of the bag they have a removable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► washable laundry bag so that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► have to like shove your dirty clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► kind of like off to the side and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► hope you don't get confused and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► just take it out when you get home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► you can put you can empty you into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► into the washer it's wonderful and both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► sizes are their carry-on bags have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► built-in battery that can charge any USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► device so as you're sitting there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► airport waiting for your flight you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► don't have to be draining your phone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► battery you can have your phone plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► into your suitcase charging up so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► when you get on the plane you got a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► full battery a single charge of the away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► carry-ons built in battery can charge an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► iPhone up to five times they also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► wonderful new add-ons recently like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► have packing cubes they have garment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► sleeves all these things that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► use to complete your travel kit if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► you're like a travel pro user you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► some of these accessories to really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► warranty on all their stuff if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► breaks they will fix or replace it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► you for life you can even travel with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► and try it out for a hundred days and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► you don't like it you can return it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► questions asked a hundred you can travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► just if it's not for you they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► confident but they know most people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► gonna keep it so if it's not for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2365">TS</a>]
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00:39:44 ◼ ► home pod thoughts John how do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► yours I was actually thinking of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► along as I thought I have wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► one that at a steep discount because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► like I said I have a place to put it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► my god I want to hear how it sounds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► able to have not been able to secure one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► significantly less than retail price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► so I'm still back to well I'm not paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► three four dollars for it so I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► I'm still holding out one thing also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► know we've had a lot more impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► and reviews and and like kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► real real-world test and impression that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► have come out the opinion and the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► quality is starting to be get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► bit split most people still think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► sounds amazing but there are some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► who have heard them and come out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► saying I actually don't like the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► and I think it's interesting like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► most of the complaints tend to be either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► the processing is doing something weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► with the mid-range that doesn't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► with their music or their tastes or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► common complaint is the bass is just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► prominent and you know it's it's hard at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► the home pod because it does room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► calibration and because it like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► listening to the bass response and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► dynamically adjusting it and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► processing on the audio to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► separate the components out into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► into different positions in the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► everything because it's so complex like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► that it's really hard to get an idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► because it could sound like lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► different things and and it whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► sound works for you can be highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► dependent on what the home pod has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► calibrated to for your room and also how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► its processing things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► centering part of the mid-range that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► thinks it's vocals and then putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► parts of instruments in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► that think those are instruments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► whether that works for certain songs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► not it's gonna be a really hard thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► get a handle on like whether it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► for you or not without actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► trying one because it's going to vary so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► much and even like trying to test it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► like there was that reddit post where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► like the guy you know did allegedly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► controlled test although it wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► controlled and and you know measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► its frequency response and distortion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► and things like that but that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► hard to test on the home pod because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► it's doing so much processing to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► sound you really can't get a good handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► on what it will always output because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► there is no one frequency response or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► one distortion rate that it will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► output because it's doing things to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► to the input sounds you know based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► and heuristics and stuff so it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► hard to get a solid idea on whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► for you without just listening to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► without trying your music in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► and you're in the room that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► put it in to see for yourself but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► think that not having any tone controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► is probably a mistake because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► the echo doesn't have any tone controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► as far as I know but the echo sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► like garbage so it doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► like no one's seeking good sound quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► out of that and Amazon's not selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► as good sound quality so nose has tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► controls I think Google who knew who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► but because Apple is positioning this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► a really good speaker and also because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► non-standard processing of the audio I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► think they need to offer some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► basic tone control even with as simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► as like how much base do you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► that I think might need to be a control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► because a lot of people have reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► that not agreeing with them but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► because it's really hard to design a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► speaker that appeals to everybody it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► even harder when you're doing very heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► and and non-standard things to the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► not just replaying it out of transducer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► that sounds like a feature and when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► talked to this before about how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► yeah the hardware it's just a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► of adding software updates to it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► sounds like a feature that could come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► a fairly soon in a software update and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► like you said just even just for bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► response I'm not even saying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► gonna throw like give you I mean an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► equaliser because almost every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► audio thing that Apple sells weathers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► think iPhones have it in the music app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► don't they will certainly iTunes does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► has an equalizer it's in the Settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► app yeah it but it's only for music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► played in the music app it doesn't apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► system-wide and also it isn't a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► equalizer they don't they only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► presets they it's like the same like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► or 15 presets rock and pop and random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► yeah the same ones that iPods had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► 10 years ago they have not changed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► there is no actual equalizer for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► just like if you want to get in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► and define your own thing you can't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► frequencies for certain things you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► I get the feeling most people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► probably don't use it yeah but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► iTunes has a full equalizer but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► like the home pod like you said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► doesn't need any closet doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► one slider for bass and that's it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► like that would that would go a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► towards making it appeal to a much wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► range of people and and and I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► that it's like should go up as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► down because some people want more bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► than the home pod puts out right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► that's why you know Beats headphones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► so popular right beyond that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► there is not because of all the dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► adjustability stuff there's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► that much more control that you can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► people because it's like what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► even controlling are they controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► the final output or they control them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► like the input before the home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► decides how it's going to interpret that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► like are they controlling the signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► before it goes into the home pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► processing or are they just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► know the bass is easy you can just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► know lower the output to the one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► speaker that you know most of the bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► workers are sent to but for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► else I think he gets a little bit tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► no-brainer update to me for a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► update their bull they widen the appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► of this device for the what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► talking about the the testing they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► that blind test that Pogue did oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► that was pretty good too well here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► this thing here's the thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► test like you mentioned I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► subjective sound is oh yeah start by - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► some people like lots of bass some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► people like not as much some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► certain reactions to certain songs sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► subjective and then doing any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► audio sort of blind testing even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► David Polk said he well he said I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► bridge boarding was but he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► said I tried to volume match them by ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► like cuz that's it very important about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► the thing about sound test is one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► we know if you make one speaker selected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► louder everyone picks it as the best no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► matter how bad it sounds like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► people are very sensitive to volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► right so it's important for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► speakers to be the same volume but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► way you get them all the same volume is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► probably not listening to them all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► saying yeah I feel like they're about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► the same volume and furthermore how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► you even adjust the volume on a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that is dynamically changing how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► outputs sound based on what it detects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► about the room like how do you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► adjust the home pod volume it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► difficult to do and then finally how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► detest it I put it in front of four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► people that make I guess you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► article out of that you know did you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► in front of 400 people like even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► did all you'd be doing is getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► survey of what people think of the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► pod that's why I feel like the frequency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► response things at least it's it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► you a baseline doesn't mean that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► know like frequency response like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► here's it ideal here's what it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► like doesn't mean you're gonna like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► it sounds but at least it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► that you can measure so if you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► you like speakers that are dead on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► response you will like the home pod if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► it's close to that and if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► speakers that are like that you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► like the home pod so let's someone read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► auto-fire audiophile probably know am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► going to like the sound of the speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► because we've done some objective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► measurements on the speaker and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► can decide do you like speakers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► have measurements like this or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► not like them and again only audio files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► we know that for everybody else it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► just kind of a crapshoot you buy it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► put it in your house where you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► put it you listen to it and you either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► like it or you don't and if most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► are comparing to the echo I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► imagine anyone not liking it because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► you said the echo sounds terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► because that's not what it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► do but for comparing it to Sonos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► other things that are high-quality I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► not sure like if someone was asking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► should I get a sonÃs or a home pod which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► sounds better I don't think there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► answer I can give them that is the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► it's like they're both good speakers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► think you'll have to hear each of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► in the environment where it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► and then return the one you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► which is answer nobody wants to hear but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► that's just the nature of sound I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► oh absolutely I mean this is what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► running on Twitter like first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► nobody can really agree on what is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► a good frequency response like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► people think oh you want it to be flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► you don't and people can't agree on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► the curve should be there's a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► like you know what why they know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► standards like there's like a Harman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► Kardon one that a lot of like the Harman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► curve that a lot of manufacturers use or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► set as their goal but like I find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► Harman curve fairly boring because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► really is weak on the treble side and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► like I like some some treble strains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► and I found it a little bit withdraws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► the vocals and I like some vocals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► and so everyone has different tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► M an audiophile who used to compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► products online by looking at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► frequency response progress like I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► so many headphone purchases or avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► so many headphones because I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► their frequency response graph and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► thought you know what either either oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► that looks like something I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► or that looks like another Harman curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► headphone and I'm probably wouldn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► that but I have found that frequency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► response graphs can almost never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► something will sound appealing to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► when you actually have it and it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► more and that's just with headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► headphones are super easy to test and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► reproducible because you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► have the room to worry about speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► are a nightmare of inconsistency because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► they depend so much on the room and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► placement of the speaker's and where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► are sitting around to the speakers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► it's it's almost impossible to have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► idea how a speaker will sound and unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► you actually put it in the room it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► going in and just try it which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► inconvenient speakers because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► be quite large and quite heavy and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► of times you've got I just have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► fortunately these are you know this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► of speaker is much smaller and much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► easier to buy and return if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► work out but all this is to say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► can't look at any measurements or read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► any reviews or for God's sake watch any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► videos like a video is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► useless for letting you hear how a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► speaker will sound like I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► people keep doing this because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► going through a different microphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► then out whatever your speakers are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► totally garbage um the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► really know how it will sound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► whether you will like it is to get it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► your house and just try it and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► home pod you know it seems like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► do generally like it so it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► you know your chances are good this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► probably work out for you if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► interested but none of these tests are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► particularly useful and no frequency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► response graph or measurements really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► are very useful it for this product from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► so many reasons not not least of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► is the massive processing it does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► you know also just these graphs aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► useful most of the time anyway for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► and to be fair I think the first round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► of reviews struck the right balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► because mostly the things you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► know that are that anyone could tell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► like how loud does it get without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► distorting because we've all had small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► speakers that strain to be heard when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► you're far away and if you crank the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► distorting heavily like that's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► think you need instruments to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► that you can kind of say like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► your your iPhone for example your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► at max volume it's not going to fill a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► room with sound you don't need to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► instruments to measure that you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► and is it faithfully reproduce in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► sound or a max volume is somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► distorted and certain frequencies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► you don't need to be an auto file to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► us out it's not that's not really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► this song sounds like and at max volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► it's not particularly loud right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► mean obviously this is an extreme right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► but anyone home part review said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► gets surprisingly loud and even at high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► volumes it doesn't start fuzzing out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► sounding terrible and overall the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► quality is pretty good and that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► is the right balance to strike for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► type of review because if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► saying things beyond that like direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► comparison with the Sonos play v or play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► one or anything like that it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► subjective to say anything definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► about until you start getting out them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► the instruments and you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► once you get out the instruments the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► home pod defies you because you stick an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► instrument close to it and it thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► it's next to a wall or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► just the sound in a weird way and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► have no idea what's going on that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► the question with the Sheep they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► front of like to be a blind test was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► home pod detecting that the sheet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► there even though it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► acoustically transparent does I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► it's a wall it's trying to bounce sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► off it and doing something weird who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► knows we have no visibility into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► black box that is there the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► cylinder that is the home PI or space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► gray or white anyway I'm still I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► interested to try one in my house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► interested enough to plunk down 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► bucks that's exactly how I feel and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► I would I was really hoping that mr. I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► all I do is spend money would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► through for us on this one but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► about it you've led us down John he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► getting there give him a couple more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► weeks yeah I mean probably but so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► if I'm honest with myself yeah probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► by next week's show one more thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► consider though is like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► product that has shipped without some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► its major features they just didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► you know it if you know definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► obviously it lacks airplay too that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► the big one and that also means it lacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► multi chant or multi speaker stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► pairing it lacks multi room and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► Siri is greatly lacking in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► areas some small some pretty big it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► have a feeling this product is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► grow slowly I'm feeling that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► gonna be a lot of people who like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► waiting for one of those things to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► fixed I would caution people don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► it today unless you are ok with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► features and Siri that it has today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► this is not a statement of an apple this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► is a statement about all tech products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► never buy tech products based on future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► software or service promises because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► often they either don't deliver or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► deliver really late or incomplete or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► just crappy and so whatever the home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► like if you're on the fence about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► limitation of Siri you know but they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► fix it in a software update assume they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► won't assume they never will fix it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► you still want it ok it's safe to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► but don't buy it based on the assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► of some future thing that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► change or improve or add until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► thing is actually delivered and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► that applies to all tech products yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► how is your full autopilot working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► autopilot and I I would not recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► anybody by Tesla's full autopilot until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it's actually released and demonstrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► conversation privately a few days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► that's exactly why I brought it up yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► I as always i'm waffling on the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► a home pod in so many ways i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► idea of having a really small but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► really good sounding that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► it's ostensibly speaker but i still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► justification for 350 bucks if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► a hundred bucks which I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► it's overpriced necessarily I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► saying if it was a hundred dollars I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► think I would have bought it and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► said yeah the hell with it I'll give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► a shot but a three and fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► that for me anyway is something where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► have to weigh the pros and cons and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► just it right now I'm with John it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► just not compelling enough for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► spend the money so when I have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► week you can all laugh at me and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► play this we'll play this clip back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► what color are you not getting next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► oh definitely not definitely not see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► would have to not get the white to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► next to my echo mm so you would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► white and I would get black hmm funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► how that is we are sponsored this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► by Eero finally Wi-Fi that works visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► eurocom and he was code atpa check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► for free overnight shipping to the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► and canada we've tried for years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► cover our entire houses and Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► without any dead zones or slow areas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► it's really hard because when you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► have one router there's always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► inherently going to be dead zones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► because of things like walls and real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► life with ero they solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► with by having a distributed Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► system there's multiple routers that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► plug in throughout your house and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► they share the connection and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► wirelessly talk to each other and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► enterprise-grade functionality and speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► and reliability but not enterprise-grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► complexity it is super easy to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► the new Eero hardware is also incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► nice it just looks really nice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► the base station is about the size of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Apple TV or so and it's nice and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► and they now have the second-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► hardware it's nice and fast there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► triple band radios and all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► wonderful new advanced technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► then the kind of accessory satellite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► base stations they now have these zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► second-generation piece of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► predecessor and the beacon is this nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► small almost like you know plug in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► outlet it just sits flush against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► outlet and that is your little Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► like for Peter four different parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► your house there they're so small you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► wouldn't even even put you know put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► in a hallway you wouldn't even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► them they're wonderful and this blankets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► your house and fast reliable coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► it's the kind of system that businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► have used for years to cover their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► businesses but that was always too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► Eero has made it super easy and super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► reliable and quite affordable if I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► say the single router system just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► doesn't work you need a distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► when I've ever seen to set up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► wonderful so check it out today go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3466">TS</a>]
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00:57:51 ◼ ► checkout and you will get free overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► shipping to the US or Canada thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► so much to ero for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► I've been using Waze for a year and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► added it to the topic list a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► because I wanted to spend five seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► saying you know what I use Waze and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► awesome and John's like oh I have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► to say about that it has to be a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► topic and it's absolute has no topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► list and it's been floating on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► list for a year right at about spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► number four and most shows we have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► topics so it has never gotten into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► make topic list and we've always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► like one topic away from covering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► Waze topic and I have no idea what John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► wants to say about it what I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► about it would you know take maybe five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► minutes but well let's let's have you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► an opening statement then you know let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► test that five minute idea look everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► look at the time stamp right now and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► so I have used a lot of GPS systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► either in cars or as apps on computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► first laptops and then phones many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► them try to be smart about routing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► around traffic or even just the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► routing you know tries to be smart in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► some degree but many of them try to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► smart like when there's traffic when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► they if they have some kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► internet connectivity for traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► service like they detect traffic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► they try to route you around or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► offer you like alternative like hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► can go over here and save ten minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► then you take you off some weirdo like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► crazy path through residential areas or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► off a cliff or whatever those I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► almost every time one of the traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► routing apps has suggested a route to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► to save time it almost never does save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► time and it almost always makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► regret having done it because of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► weird place it brings me through whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► it's like you know really narrow roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► or like dirt roads or like going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► like you know really like you know bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► neighborhoods or residential areas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► like it's just really weird to just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► going through a million stop signs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► front of people's houses and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRdo_xk/3594">TS</a>]