01:00:00 ◼ ► he's definitely shaking and when I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► them in 1999 I thought it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► terrific there there was a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► famous moment indelibly burned into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► head of us on tour with Death Cab in 98 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► hurricane hurricane and we're in Arizona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► we're at a show in you know like at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► some strip mall in Phoenix and death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► cabs on stage and it's not a stage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► yeah where they took the PA or they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► the they took like your practice PA but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► they turned it around to the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► and we're we're there watching them play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► and their merch guy a guy named little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► Rob everybody just called him little Rob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► Li L he starts to do the Ben Gibbard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► guitar dance and you know we're at weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► perfectly but he's not even looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► the stage he's got his back to them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► he's just perfectly doing that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► thing that you're describing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► shuffle swing it is like he's spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► slightly back and his shoulders are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► moving in compliment with the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► his hips are moving with a very wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► open posture mm-hmm and the guitar is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► component of it and it's yeah it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► it's like Elvis if you left all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► hangers in this in his suits and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► it's just like we all from that point on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► after seeing will Rob do such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► job of it we all try to perfect our Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► Gibbard dance and I think there's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► think I'll I'll hop into it once or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► twice during a set just it just is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► little homage or the tip of the hat to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► little kind of like one two one two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► I think I think that the the music video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► for flock of seagulls the the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► videos they caused such a sensation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► because of that guy's hair yeah that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► he's remembered for having the swoopy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► hair from the second video but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► first one oh god there's a phrase I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► um more art school hair one would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► and and yeah that meet me at McDonald's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► kind of haircut he's got like the he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► got the swirly I can kind of up on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► and then you got the camera with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► garbage bag like garbage bags in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► video well that was a that was an easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► special effect to use in garbage bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► and then you take a couple of box fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► you can't see me doing this he's holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► down like like in like a probably an a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► with one finger and then he's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► fingers way up in the air but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► been that had three great Tunes oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► this is love song is legitimately good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► song but they're like not in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► they're not thought of in that serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► rank of 80s you know they're those songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► are as good as any Gary Numan tune oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► see yeah yeah I get what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah we're like there was this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► Rat King of like especially English like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► new wave bands and New Romantic bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► and like some of them are much it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► cooler to still like this band than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► band I mean it's hard I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► soft-sell was serious but Culture Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► was not and it's a little and it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► lot to do with hair style that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► proliferation Altima proliferation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► images that we have I think you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► less influenced by how a band looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► then we were in 1983 watching those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► music videos discount something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► a third rail but should be discussed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► least living in Florida I am NOT proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► of this by a longshot but there was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► I don't know how to use this word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► whether they seemed gay and I don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► that they they like people of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► sexually I just meant they're people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► like the people who are listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► Lynyrd Skynyrd would see that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► into mark almond and that seemed kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► gay and I think I think that had a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► effect in a lot of ways even with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► Duran Duran like you like oh these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► are so fruity and that was you'd feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► like a little East I felt like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► twinge of like oh I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► okay to be into this Dan because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► not tough and cool which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► considering that Bon Jovi you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► there's an awful lot of signaling in Bon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► Jovi that is directed at you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► like the the transition that bands made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► to because I mean even Van Halen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► absolutely in the mid 70s you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► there's that famous story where van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► Halen played like big day out in Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► where all the other bands were Molly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► Hatchet and ZZ Top and it was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► probably seemed everybody but Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► probably seems very androgynous for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► time well it freaked him out the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► the folks in Texas who were just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► that rock and roll concert and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► like everybody else was in denim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► cowboy boots right and out comes van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► Halen just like yeah yeah you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► California at the very least but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► think there was also I mean music was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► it was so siloed the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► a band that was for girls and for boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► was really big for me like I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► really hard this is one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► one of the reasons that I never got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► the Smiths was I just felt like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► Smiths was my sister's band and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► style of singing in that style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► looking and that style of being was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► pandering to girls and it wasn't serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► it wasn't like serious minded because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► parents to me that it was meant to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► teenage girls cry and I could I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► not in and it might have been a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► percent different if I had known one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► person who said this is really serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► music but as it was it was just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► just felt it felt like the Smiths were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► pandering were like a were an extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► of Duran Duran right you think you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► about like Paul Young would be one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► already know Culture Club Paul Young but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► you know Paul Young had some really some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► some pretty like was a song I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► come back and like he had some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► good pop songs and he did that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► weird Joy Division cover but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► right there were there were ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► felt like there were bands for boys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► pants for girls right you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► that's Steely Dan being an extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► example but yeah I totally agree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► like now when you look back like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► do seem to be these bands that like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► retrospect I think a huge one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► nobody talks about much is like screw D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► politi but there are these bands that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► age surprisingly well that like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► time you might have thought oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► pretty pretty light light pop but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► know it does stand up we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► this once before was it here on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► show where I made this playlist of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► I'll put it in well we don't have chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► for the show I'll put it in anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► list of like a new wave that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► stands up in my opinion like where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► songs have good bones or where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► doing something that was new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► substantial like I think there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► still so much stuff from there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► you're right that the gender stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► the sexual politics stuff was was giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► I mean like you're not gonna want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► time you could not be a straight guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► Florida who was really into Tom Robinson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► band publicly like that was not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► haircut 100 is an example of a band that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► was really very very very put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► that's that a lot going on like stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► going on totally but like a but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► there were a million reasons why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► would look at that and say that's a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► for girls absolutely in fact it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► there were even then like I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► into the song so you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► you could go either way and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► always even when flock of seagulls was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► the most reviled I could not get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► from the power of their hooks I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► what they were doing I mean they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► doing what they intended to do very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► you know here's another one I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► gonna send it I don't know I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► what the critical reputation at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► point is this is as much - Trevor Horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► as anybody but go back and listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► title song from the look of love by ABC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► that's a look that's the look the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► of love is such a very finely crafted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► and executed pop song it's it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► parts it's got hooks and hooks and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► hooks it's it's just it's it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► beautiful I don't say a masterpiece but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► it's such a piece of work as a pop song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► I know it I know it's probably true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► I could ABC was in my list of no thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► right right over there with men without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► hats I didn't want either thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► didn't matter how much you you said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► ABC they're amazing because I knew they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► were even then you could tell that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► were like dynamite yeah but I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► me how Hollywood another Trevor Horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4195">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► joint loved Frankie just the honking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► this cuz that was just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► later that was like what 84 85 well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► because Frankie had so much attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► they said relax and it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► watching them at least felt like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► a gang like Adam in the ants right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► Frankie him Frankie and they seemed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► he dangerous fouling the neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► unapologetically gay and openly gay in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► way that was aggressively gay that took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► that was like headline-grabbing mmm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► and it just felt like yeah fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► that's right goddamn right and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► felt like their Tunes were were I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► it's hard to say they were I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► truth is like again Trevor Horn like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► stuff that that guy has done for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► bands is you know in that case I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► nothing against the Frankie Goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► Hollywood band there they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► interesting they had a great look but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► like their songs we're not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► substantial but like they have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► that a great sound that a great sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► and they and that's exactly that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► right the sound was great like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► that the way that their big hit kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► trails off at the end was the last thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► you hear is like sounds of files and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► Babbitt did like two tribes I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► two tribes necessarily hangs together as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► a great political statement but like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► was so big it was so big right if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► sat down and tried to play it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► acoustic guitar I don't seven-inch of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► I bought the 7-inch and everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► it like at that point in my life there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► is no way I should have bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► 7-inch of that record because I hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► that music video they're freaky they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► I mean they're like there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► wrong can be pretty campy but but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► the way they're looking at you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► camera is just like no no no don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► invite those people into your house but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► put the tune I just really liked it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► I couldn't I couldn't explain it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► wouldn't defend it it's very catchy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► I never would have told a friend that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► had it towed up Berlin pleasure and pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► pre pre top gun pleasure victim era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► Berlin one of the great bands they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► that ep I think was an EP with the sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► i'ma song on it and then they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► pleasure victim I think masquerade is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► very good song I think I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► before its time that was some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► strong music it's super strong and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► thing about it is that whole record I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► talking about when this is this is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► way not we're not talking about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► version of Berlin that still seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► it feels like years after I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► listening to Berlin but I guess it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► like a year after I was really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► Berlin but that the their record love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► life which came out in 84 but which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► seven even that record and it's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► that has no more words oh that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► song but the whole record is good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► just Oh dancing in Berlin that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► song yeah it's good it's just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► major years wait so it's two years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► pleasure pleasure if it comes 1982 dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► I remember hating you for loving me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► what that was as influential on me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► cars by Gary Numan I mean I know for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► or for me Adam in the ants these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► just unabashedly melodramatic songs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► just hate him with a spoon they sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► like the future absolutely that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► because what was happening in metal at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► that time was was that everybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► gone to pentatonic or everybody had gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► to this idea this like this dead-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► idea that without what metal was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► be was classical music the classical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► music of art and the new weight stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► was definitely on point but it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► was consolidating into something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► very tight and not particularly weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► but it was it was getting I mean like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► mean what do you say about iron made one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► from that time like this stuff was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► amazing it was amazing but it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► feel like the future right it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► a height of what had happened before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► so like it was it was still connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► dungeons and dragons it felt like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► like our music probably same for Judas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► Priest maybe yeah I think so it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► like leather and studs and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► this is music about dragons whereas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► a lot of New Wave just felt like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► is just pop music with keyboards but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► some tunes and I feel like flock of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► seagulls in Berlin fall into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► category captured the feeling of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► future where where it felt cold that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► that's that's where Gary Numan kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► takes the cake yeah it just feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► oh shit that you know like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► it's scary because it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► like there it doesn't feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► are any blankets there and and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► it's not just the music videos like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► in the music yeah the dissonant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► squeaky they were very dissonant squeaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► keyboards at that time could sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► be very very upsetting but like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► a they had a very strong effect on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► and that yeah and there and the idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► think that got into my head forever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► there should be a note droning somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► which is actually something thrown back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► to the Blues you know it like like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► it's Apalachin to have what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► there's some I'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► bands you take a song like I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► but the riffs would be very dissonant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► and yet incredibly catchy a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► time or something like in like with Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► knew me take some like cars or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► earlier you take down in the park you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► take a two-way army song song and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► there's the two-way arm it was menacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► like they do you talk about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► without blankets title that's that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► just feels like oh my god does this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► Kraftwerk future we're gonna live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► where everything's just gonna be metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► walls it's just that's such a feeling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► it of like this is this is not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► yeah I'm gonna be alone and no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► ever gonna smile and if you and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► say you know if we say the wrong words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► like everyone's head is gonna turn yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► sure like music and you're gonna you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► gonna have a lot of mascara on I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4614">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► think you can ever run out of mascara it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► was not cool at all to like Adam well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► see I always thought I still call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► out him in the ants too like Adam the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► ants when I like that in the ants was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► extremely not cool in Central Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► well even up into then in some ways it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► was even more embarrassing when Friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► or Foe got popular because I was into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► Kingsley well frontier and Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► Charming we're like whoa Stanton deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► was my favorite song for probably five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► years a great tune it's a good song and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► they had two drummers and they dressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► like pirates and like what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► doing with all that makeup and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► I mean it really was kind of like Tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► Beat material in some ways was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► very good song with a great band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► but like then was even more embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► because like oh yeah I knew you liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► this obscure English band but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► really understand what this band is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► you like this is not very Molly Hatchet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► I feel like the I feel like it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► example of like Adam Ant had so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► attitude toward the camera mm-hmm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► he was very he was very beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► telegenic yeah just right in your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► with it and I I could never give I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► I could never hate that like even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► in the darkest time of like if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► metal it's not music his like pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► swagger and that was what I that was why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► I didn't like simply red why I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► like Tears for Fears was that they there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► wasn't swagger it looked like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► you know they were trying to seem deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► and I didn't respond to that as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► I did like Here I am like and why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► could never ever ever hate on George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► Michael even at the even I'm just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► even when wham was ludicrous raps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► lamb rap song you think that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► little silly at the time I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► like I was listening to those records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► but I didn't I didn't look at George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Michael and have contempt for him he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► wasn't you weren't offended I wasn't no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► well no I I felt like yeah there it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► like he's he's owning he's owning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► space and that was and that was a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► think there was a lot I mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► like Frank Zappa at all but I love Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► you know the idea of Frank Zappa is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► strong the idea of Frank Zappa the smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► of Frank Zappa is something I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► to consider right I don't because I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► sense is that that Frank had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► and that it was and and potentially even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► largely monogamous but he was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► somebody who was gonna go like shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► before oh I see what you're saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► think about that sometimes I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► yeah yeah I'm sensitive to smells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► know I've got a rash no because I spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► some time in hot tubs recently oh no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► no no no no no that's that's human soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► and I don't I don't be a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► breeding ground for that kind of thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► like a hot bath mm-hmm I like a even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► swimming pool but a hot tub I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► come out of there with hives is it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► your bottom parts it's just in the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► that would touch it touch the water of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► and it's just it's uncomfortable and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► makes me feel like it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► things that separates me from the 1970s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► I feel like water beds I was into I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► would be into them again if they were if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► it see if it seemed reasonable to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► one uh-huh but a hot tub I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► whether it's the whether it's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► people or the chemicals they put in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► to keep it's the other people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► John I think even in the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► conditions it's a lot of work keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► one of those things clean I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► you're even if you're really riding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► hard even if you like maybe have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► you've hired some help before it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► that's gonna be a lot of work yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► but so I was in a hot tub in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► and then I went to another place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► they had hot tubs there too I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► all right mr. hot tub I guess and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► the first hot tub experience I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► yeah where a rash is really it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► existential home you really cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► forget the physicality of your body when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► you got a rash there's other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► things where you can like kind of put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► off for a minute but a rice just reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► you that you're alive and not in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► I'm I'm people I think are often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► surprised at how vulnerable I am to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► things you're sensitive you're sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► soap and bad smells and that that hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► tubs but I'm very sensitive to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► things and I think right now I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► and the book about sleep is telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► that if you if you're not getting good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► sleep you might as well die of cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4918">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► right now yeah and so I'm so last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► I actually read the book about sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► until it put me to sleep and then I lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► there and I woke up a little bit later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► and and my body was like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► ready for sleep and I I really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► about this book like yes I am ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► sleep potty or would you like instead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► just die at 56 of a thousand maladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► and my body said hmm all right I'll I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and I did go back to sleep and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► sleep soundly and so I'm thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► this book and I'm thinking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► hmm I have a rash I also have been sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► a lot lately maybe it's time to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► book about sleep Wow and so that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► I am I'm at I am at the point in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► where I would voluntarily read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► about sleep and and I'm reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► intro and the the writer is like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► started as a psychiatry professor at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► Harvard and then I moved to Berkeley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► where I'm a you know a psychokinetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► researcher and the chairman of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► department and I'm picturing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► this sleep researcher and I turned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► the back of the book jacket and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► person looks like the male lead of dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► dancing Patrick Swayze Patrick Swayze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► yeah and I'm like oh no and I flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► back to the intro again and it said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► over 20 years I've been working and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► like this oh he still doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► dict I mean this person is 39 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► something you know you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► seen his leathery no I'm saying if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► got in your career started in 1998 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► you are I mean he's like got bleached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► hair and so it was then it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► hard not to put the book down because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► did not want to be lectured about sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► by someone who looked like Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Swayze but I was like stay in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► stay in the game yeah maybe he has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► insights maybe you can learn something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► from a young person and well so I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► it through the first couple of chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► there's a Supreme Court justice he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► younger than me no it's very upsetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► the new yeah of course it's yeah his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► name whoever the guy is that's that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► jammed in there yeah upsetting but I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► a tip for you I can't promise is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► help but this is someone out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► cognitive-behavioral tradition but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► something I've been doing that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► helping with the sleep and you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► me I don't know if you've ever heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► catchphrases in life one of my guiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► principles is to remind myself that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► decided not to let it bother me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► something starts to bother me I say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► myself you know what I've decided not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► let it bother me then every part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► is important so I started trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► adopt that with sleep when I wake up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► I suddenly I start feeling all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► anxiety I say hmm maybe I'm not a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► person because I'm awake maybe I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► actually get up for a few minutes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► if I gave myself one hour to be awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► and said after an hour I'll go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► sleep but I'm not gonna feel bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► it I have decided not to let it bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► I've decided not to let it bother me hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► I have decided not to let it bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► and then and then all of a sudden you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► not a bad person anymore now you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► somebody who's awake for a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► and then you're somebody who can go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► to sleep because you know because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► know what kills you is the feeling bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► about it it's the being bothered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► okay well but but I mean I know that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► well I don't convinced of that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► but what yeah I just this guy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► he he made me feel okay because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► like he gave me some of what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► looking for which it is if you stay up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► late at night that's because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► you're supposed to do and your body is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► just a normal healthy American boy I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► an owl I'm an owl not an early bird I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► an owl and and so I was like yeah damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► right and he said but if you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► eight hours of sleep at night you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► this is your alright the bad news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► it's killing you face compliment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► sandwich world's fucked up nobody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► know the world is not made for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► that want to sleep until 10:00 a.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► let alone noon so it's too bad for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► if you don't get eight hours of sleep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► night your brain is gonna turn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► spaghetti noodles and be too tired to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► realize it I'm gonna be too tired to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► to war teach on that shoot tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5217">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► I'm Merlin how's going good long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► Nessie Esmond that long we just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► last week right that's right yeah yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/13">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► there's no Vale to tear away no we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► been talking consistently yes we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► about politics last week oh yeah as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► remember when we talked last week yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► yeah we talked about politics that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► that was a real hit show it's barnburner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► yeah it was got a lot of got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► hearts and faith for that one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► collective hearts collected faves mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/40">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► collecting them in my in my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► Tupperware in my it's not a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► Tupperware it's a big big big one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► those big Tupper what's the name of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/50">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► soundcloud rapper locally clever where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► little Tupperware yeah yeah I got a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► got a big bucket of those hit hearts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► babes I've been collecting since 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/61">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► mm-hmm hearts and minds hearts and faves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► well it's nice to talk to you you used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► jimena yeah got gold star faves yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► don't use the internet as much as I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► you said a mouthful mm-hmm man you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► I use it I use it differently the pipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► and the wires you know I've rerouted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► them a little bit a little bit of a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► improvement on my internet you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► was my uncle's law partner that said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► internet was a series of tubes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► that's uncle Ted uncle pad yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► like no no no you don't put on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► of a truck that's what he said right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► that's right he added some nuance to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► I talked about him a lot in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► week or so cuz I visited my uncle who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► 91 now and he's trying to write his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► autobiography and he's got he's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► quite a bit of it but he was telling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► lot of stories about the good old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► while we were sitting around sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► around the couch and heard a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► great Ted Stevens stories any you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► share because because Ted Stevens in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► popular imagination I think if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► the name Ted Stevens you may know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► he is the the tubes a series of tubes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► you may know wasn't he famous for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► wasn't that his boondoggle no that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► different Alaskan see I already don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► know who I'm talking about yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► Wally Hickel Wally Hickel the former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► governor and Nixon Secretary of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► Interior Ted was a fan of political pork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► was he not well Ted Oh Merlin yuck that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► let me get you started please permit me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► you said it political pork Ted was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/163">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► Appropriations Committee they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► decide where what bad heart defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► money goes no that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► defense money all the defense may all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► the great defense like all the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► Committee is very powerful and Ted was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► the leader of it and so and you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► right there by by the Soviet Union you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► can about your window that's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/192">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► peaceniks or at least anti-war they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► doves that's what they would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► calling doves prefer peace they prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/202">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► peace and they would say you know Ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► you gotta what are you doing here man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► with these guns and Ted would say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► know 48 out of 50 states the military is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► their number one employer that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/220">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► get it's a logical fallacy that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► really good logical fallacy it's like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► dad used to do when I when I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► try and take his car away because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► too old to drive and he would say I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► a guy got an appointment to get the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► fixed people run everything so we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/238">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► let white people run everything so Ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► Ted yeah Ted you know he was appointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► to the Senate the first time he never he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► didn't even he was his like he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/254">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► initially okay I'm looking him up here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► go and that was that's like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► extraordinary just in the sense that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► he became one of the longest senators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► serving his president pro-tem for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/275">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► he was that the time he was the lamb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► around the internet science site he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► the longest serving Republican senator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► in history at the time he left office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► now of course that's orrin hatch yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► orrin hatch now has made it made it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► here I mean they're gonna have to pry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► the Senate from his his one good hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/296">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► lot of layers part of his whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/303">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► was like there's he was off of term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► limits or didn't like the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► these guys would get in there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► never leave it was real frustrating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► him and that was I think in 1977 is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► right was in 1977 when he came in orrin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► hatch yeah no I have no idea I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► follow the career born read the traits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► assumed office January 3 1977 Wow yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► yeah and Ted was already there right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► was he was there Ted this is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► crazy he went into the Senate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► about the time I was born so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► there was like three months of my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► life that Ted Stevens autumn in the US I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► want to just reflect the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► just totally confused orrin hatch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► Bob Dole thank you very much all fixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► the Edit damn good 1976 his first run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/352">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► defeating Frank Moss the three-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/359">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► incumbent among other issues hatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► criticized his ha mosses 18-year tenure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► in the Senate saying what do you call a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► senator who served in office for 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► years you call him home he ran on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► promise of time right he got in there he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► got on the promise of term limits that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► was we should do yeah I should have do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► not don't like me in there in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► mm-hmm it's early it's really early so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► took I took you off your game so uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► Ted comes in oh and it was a weird thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► because that he came in because a Senate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► era that our senator at the time a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/394">TS</a>]
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00:07:29 ◼ ► very small political politically Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► very small he died the year you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/452">TS</a>]
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00:14:30 ◼ ► one that delivered got the basket of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► potatoes delivered upon her now she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► like that that all right guy who dresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► up in diapers and hangs out in safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► spaces to pony libs he's a grown man he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/878">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► dresses up in he's been known to dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► up in diapers with a pacifier and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► goes to college campuses and makes fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► of safe space this morning he wears a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► that'll show that same thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► that's too good potatoes same situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► it's like she's pulling herself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► cell phone I opened my email this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► morning because I made the a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► days ago I was like you know all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► I'm gonna go and unsubscribe from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► these things and let's see which ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► really successfully unsubscribe from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► which ones it's just like the elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► button anything or dropping dropping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► bit of oil onto like the overhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► projector at a dead show where it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► is like blurring and now all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► I get 400 emails because I've identified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► myself as a living person but I got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/928">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► directly from them are you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► remember no most of my family was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► are not well my late father was a he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► basically his occupation his career was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► I mean he'd been an Eagle Scout he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► he's from that age we're like normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► guys had guns and he talked gun safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► classes and he was in the NRA and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► in Ducks Unlimited he's like hey we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► can't kill all the Ducks so we won't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► to shoot ducks anymore like an early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► kind of like right-wing conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► movement like a conservation movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► like he was oh he was like a good he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► a good gun guy he taught like I say he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► taught gun safety classes and except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/969">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► except for Korea he never shot a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► yeah he was he had a bad time in Korea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► it was not a good police action oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► yeah hit the PTSD didn't you know didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/981">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► call it that then they just thought he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► was a guy who didn't like fireworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► would be a marina or an army he was uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► he was very briefly a PFC until he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► busted to basic private because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► refused to paint a barracks right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► they he knew they were bugging out oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► yeah there's just two ways and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► them's the army way another way is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► you could get less money each week yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► to get to get but busted down he's in he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► was in frontline battles he had frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► feet and stuff it was a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► situation no it's awful it was awful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► was off so he didn't want to watch mash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► let's see he I don't know if he why mash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► is on for a couple years before he died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► I don't remember that being a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► we watched but everybody man everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► you know Winchester just died Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► Emerson Winchester the third Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► yeah he just he passed a couple three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► days ago oh no my daughter knows him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► through his voice work he's been who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► been the voice in many things he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► voice in miyazaki movie spirited away he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► underrated lilo and Stitch huh that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► he's in a program of terrible not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► terrible a program my daughter likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► called the Regular Show he also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► role in there huh no kidding yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► always amazed by people that recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► other people's voices didn't voiceover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► I mean I can pick out Morgan free it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► it's a it's a sport in our house is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► who can name that person first I fee I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► oh no I mean I there was never a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► where I didn't feel like the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► organization that did not represent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► wait I guess a lot of knots in that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► that's right that there's there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► never be they used to be I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► the where we stand today is it's fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► well known that even though they portray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► themselves as an organization that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► for people who believe in the Second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► Amendment right to keep and bear arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► they are I think that was pretend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► industry-funded lobbying group whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► primary goal is to sell more guns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► secondary goal is to not allow anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► to happen that would prevent selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► more guns that's not to be cynical but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► think that's pretty much what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► at this point this this was a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► the the transformation of the NRA from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► sportsman's organization to whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► is now a lot everything was a lobbying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► group well but you know a sportsman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► lobbying group to whatever it is now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► mean industry centric yeah well or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► it's not even it I don't think it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► it's a propaganda organization now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► doesn't have anything to I mean but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► throughout the course of my life like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► standards a gun nut like a nut mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► I've probably described before that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► the house the house my mom grew up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► she said that there were just rifles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► leaning you know in all the corners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► all the rooms like in the living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► all four corners just had like rifles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► leaning in them and so when she was home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► alone at night and it's a farm house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► it's out you know a mile from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► she'd be home alone studying at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► and I guess they didn't have curtains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► because they couldn't I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► because back then why would you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► curtains I'm not sure I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► were too poor for curtains although they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► right hide nothing curtains right on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► border of being too poor for curtains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► what we could use that fabric as napkins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► but like guns in the corner and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► would move her she would move her little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► study chair to the center of the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► obviously like she's you know young girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► she was afraid that someone was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► somebody was out in the dark looking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► but she also felt like there are guns in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► ultimately like I can get to a gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► environment to grow up in to me yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► it's not natural to her I mean she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► still she's still deadly people weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► and I think one cognitive disconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► between in our country right now is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► there are people who think of guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► primarily as people killing machines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► differently than they would think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► screwdriver or a hammer it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► that's part of a certain rural lifestyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► that includes hunting and the need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► protection because there's no one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► help you there well I mean hunting sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► but there are a lot of people in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► that can that look at a rifle I think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► a tennis racket it's something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► go and you get to go to the range or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► go somewhere and and then planket cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► or shoot at targets I went to a target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► shooting match the other day a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► mine from Portland is a is a competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► shooter and his team was playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► local Seattle team and he and his he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► his pal a fellow shooter came up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► they competed against the locals and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► know the the Portland team maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► predictably were all in their 40s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► quickly reduce the pointless infighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► no like they all had kind of long hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and beards and the Seattle team were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► 7b Oh interesting and had suspenders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► there's still regionality in anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► love that they had suspenders on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► jeans and you know like the Seattle team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► was definitely like old gun people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► the Portland team were like we're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► young you know these are very technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► instruments these pistols and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► that's a whole I mean shit they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► shooting in the Olympics get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► biathlon that's a great that's a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► event did you watch the women's biathlon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► no no no but I just remember well first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► when I first became aware of it as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► a teen I was like one get this straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► like you ski really hard you get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► breath they always said that's the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► part is you're kind of out of breath and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► they need to pull out a rifle and shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► very accurately at a distance i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► thrilling oh cool some thrilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► thrilling Olympic drama but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► that tennis racquet thing the idea of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► just being a thing that you go like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► just a sport transport to go try and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► a little little piece of metal into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► center of a piece of paper that's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► way away like but my my grandfather was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► somebody that according to my mom he put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► all of his spare money in guns curtains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► I mean that's right what are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► do send your daughter to college man so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► by the time he died his gun collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► was worth a small fortune because he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► all these plans Wow yeah like he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► bought all these beautiful weapons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► score upon score of them and I guess my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► mother's brother took who also was Gunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► he wasn't like super gun nut but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► at least gonna jacent but he he took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► all and sold it sold it all as a big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► know as a as a major component of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► quote unquote estate which I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► largely made of guns ended up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► shelter former shelter and I was I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► actually even now many many years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► decades later I feel a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► the little tiny piece of me is missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► in that I do not have a single one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► grandfather's my crazy grandfather's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► I can totally understand that yeah some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► just like some bird rifle or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► long-running beef in my near family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► where basically at some point after my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► dad died an acquaintance of our family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► was like basically taking care of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► dad's collection of rifles and pistols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► and my mom had asked for it back never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► got it back into this day she's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► steamed about it yeah that's how it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► at the time like that's very assist that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► would be like keeping his watch in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► wallet or something keeping his watch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► his wallet exactly my brother David got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► my dad's Navy flight jacket a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► before I came along right he grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► that out of the closet cuz that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► weird thing in 1968 let's let's put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► let's locate this story in 1968 when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► brother David would have been 18 my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► is not my dad already is looking at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► Navy flight jacket as some moth-eaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► old thing that's hanging around the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► of his closet talk about 23 years there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► yeah and when his teenage kids like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► let me wear you let me wear your jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► in my dad's like sure whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► get it out of here not even thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► that he would ever have another son who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► would 20 years later who has kids that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► yes exactly who would ever want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► jacket later you know what more mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► wanted more take better care of it so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► brother you know my brother took it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► I'm sure like put out his joints on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► for however long and then it just was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► just went into the went into the shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► pile like all the other jackets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► that hippies didn't appreciate but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► get my dad's watch in his wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► I feel a little bit bad about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► I was over at his old folks home one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► I was in the bathroom looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► q-tip and I opened up some drawer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► his watch was in there never tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► no and I said dad what's your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► doing in this in the bathroom and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► said oh I you know put it in there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► the cleaning lady won't find it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► said the cleaning Li is first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► that's not the problem but second of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► the bathroom isn't like the place and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► said I'll tell you what I'll I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► it and keep it for you I'll protect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► for you and he said you're stealing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► watch can't go better than a cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► lady and I said I'm not stealing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► watch like you're not wearing it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► what do you what do you thinks gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► happen to this watch this watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► this is a this is the topic of watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► advertising you hand your watch down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► old men hand their watches down to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► Oh cuz the struggle the struggle at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► point is very much about maintaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► agency and relevance and importance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► like taken away the greatest generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► watch is wasting leo you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► know what time it is anymore well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► but what I was afraid of and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► natural that he was gonna hide it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► tucking it in the couch right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► did couch and the biggest mistake I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► like I made we were cleaning out his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► house and he had some gateway computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► that he used to Peck out emails to me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► you know where it was just like he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► after a while just stopped using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► punctuation I mean it was you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► was just like hey what are you doing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► know email and when I when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► cleaning out his place I was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► you know he had mostly particleboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► furniture by then and and I just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► that gateway computer in a box and took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► it to the thrift store and it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► occurred to me and honestly the chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► of this are about 6% but there's a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► percent chance that he had been sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► at that computer pecking out some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► autobiography right and the thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► know that it's six percent rather even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► than 16 percent because he never did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► anything like that in his whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► he never sat down see how he would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► about using the tool even how to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► well I'm 90% sure that he didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► of it that way but but he you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► was a lawyer he was no stranger to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► filling up legal pads but he never once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► that I ever saw and I have every legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► pad he ever touched because I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► because I didn't I threw away his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► computer but I didn't throw away all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► these legal pads but he never was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► you know I was thinking or you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► never wrote a single page of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► reflections on the way life used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► huh like he never done so so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► think that his computer was full of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► autobiographical notes but I've had 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► percent chance that it wasn't eats at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► you just a little I mean there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► eating at me I feel like I'm in a I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► the Amazon and I'm I'm being pecked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► from all sides although apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► that's not how piranhas work as a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► right well but if you stepped in to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► you could walk across the Amazon and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► piranhas would not skeletonize me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► so good to know yeah I think that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► think I learned that on one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► unless the word John I could not get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► use that right now you don't have a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► piranha problem there in the sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► though see we're back to work back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► like piranhas another one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► things that we were raised to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► was something that was like a genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► issue of concern oh sure quick I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► like you can't tell these millenniums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► but like there was a time when we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► all be pretty sure that somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► knew would die in quicksand it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► everywhere absolute gorilla suits every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► where so many gorilla suits and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► just don't hear about in piranhas just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► don't come up anymore you don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► absolutely true there was one killer bee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► killer bee there F well Africanized bees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► hmm one one week in 1968 March 31st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► Lyndon Johnson announces he will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► seek re-election now you hear that today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► and you go oh no big deal it was a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► deal it was a huge shocking deal when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► said he would not seek it he would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► accept you think about another president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► April 2nd April 2nd 2001 comes out April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► 3rd Planet of the Apes comes out April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► 4th Martin Luther King is assassinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► also April 4th Apollo 6 is launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► April 6th a shootout between Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► Panthers and Oakland Police result in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► several arrests and deaths including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► sixteen-year-old Panther Bobby Hutton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► that was one week yes indeedy-do uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► and that's what that was all immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► now you were born by then yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► getting born you were alive and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► you know this is what you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► that there would be a generation divider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► between if you were born before Martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► Luther King was killed or after thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► SME street might be a bigger deal Sesame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► Street it feels like but but don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► feel like there's a generation gap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► think you start to feel like people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► younger than you what what age when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► were born I have a totally crazy one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► it's unavoidable this is really dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► so trivial but like a lot of my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► who are just slightly younger than me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► feel just slightly younger than me I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► a couple things for better for worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► like I was born late in 1966 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► started school late so I was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► older kids in my class but with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► said friends of mine who just feel just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► slightly younger than me a real ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► like shitty 80s robot cartoons where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► was already on to like you know Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► Who or whatever right there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► affection for like and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► slightly younger than that you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► get into Pokemon I'm like Pokemon like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► was fucking like 25 when that came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► you know so how so where is that line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► mean do you think of me as younger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► you I used to but now I do not let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► toss out a few in the indie rock days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► when you and I first met mm-hmm we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► already both in our thirties yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► true about my relationship with you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► well you know did you and Marilyn like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► always did you or did you use to text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► each other I was like what no podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► that we used to talk on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► neither of us wanted to talk on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► phone but that was the only way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► could talk to you on the phone yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► watched a Kitchen Nightmares the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► day where the guy had a flip phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► my daughter was like what is he doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► with that phone I was like yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► that's like when this show came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► that's the phone that most people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► know yesterday we I was at a restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► in Canadia and there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► phone like a desk phone but it was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► older than I would have ever seen it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► ding-a-ling phone and my daughter picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► it up and it was a dial phone a rotary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► phone and I said do you know how those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► work and she said yes and she she put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► her finger in it and she said you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► your finger in here and you move it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► the number that you want to call so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► want to call for instance I want to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► the letter C French to move it up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► letter C and then went to dit and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► tada I said well yeah it's not too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► yeah we found out we found out mixed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► with all of our many stickers books was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► a copy of a zine that I used to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► which is a zine about big star called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► back of a car and she's like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► this comic that's like it's it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► magazine but little and it's and it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► a flexi disc and still had the flexi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► disc like staple inside of it and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► like but when we first met she felt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► I was a little bit younger than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► because there were musical cues that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► that that could differentiate a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► a half in age it's like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► the same with your kids like you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► daughter Shirley has friends has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► friends through her life that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► like you know those kind of like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► you don't see them every week but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► your ongoing oh that was your that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► your really good friend when you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► baby and they're like what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► talking about like there's a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► there's might be a friend who's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► year older and she started almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► certainly probably at this point has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► friends who are like a year younger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► that year for obvious reasons matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► less and less mostly as you get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► right and in that case like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► that's like again the mr. show bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► I'm into Star Wars you're into that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► Empire Strikes Back bullshit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► it's like these these incredibly small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► differences become less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► important but like when we met oh shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► dog Joe Joe from from the label had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► tooth the other day part um what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► parts-per-million came out it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► yeah like Eric knows those guys and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► like it was a big deal like oh this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► is this really cool record though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► doesn't that seem insane well especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► since I still think of the thermals has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► like like youngster kids little guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► the shirts yeah yeah yeah but but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► when we met like I at that point was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► different directions in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► what we knew a lot about or were real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► into and I was certainly deep in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► Sloan phase and a lot of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► the Canadian rock and stuff at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► point and you were very very up-to-date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► unlike what was happening on the charts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► and all that kind of stuff but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► remember talking to ton when we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► about old music it would be like you me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and Shawn talking about like very old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► music listen which I mean like in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► lifetime but that was a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► but you were really you you you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► took us in hand and and like actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► literally sat us down like come in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► sit down and begin to show us things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► hadn't seen famously electronic stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► yeah like here's what here's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► internet forum is in that forum but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► like you showed us the office for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► first time the British seen or heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► when that was still contemporary you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► were the first person who had a DVR that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► any of us had put the Jeff Bridges that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► we watch it oh my god and it would and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► this was before there was like gifts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► any kind of internet just keeping the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► like I saved this like 11 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► there's this one time when I turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► channel and accidentally caught Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► Bridges being seemingly pretty high on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► Charlie Rose and it was really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► funny and we would watch it over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► over I can never find it now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► know I wouldn't even know where to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► for it it was so it was so it felt so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► contemporary it was it was a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► that none of us possessed like so wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► minute wait a minute explain this again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► you were you were changing channels you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► can just go watch any Seinfeld now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► and it was recording somehow and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► were able to go back and and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► like yeah it's recording everything all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► the time you can watch whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► whenever like recording everything all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► the time how does it do it where does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► keep the tapes it's turning it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► this work yeah right where are the tubes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► and that felt so in that case that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► funny okay I haven't thought that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► recollections of your band and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► sitting around in our underwear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► while my wife went to work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► watching TV well there was a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► but also I mean one night when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► when you and I first met and I and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► is obviously like a story drenched in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► moss but you still had a PC running in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► your office yeah but you had begun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► evangelize about Macintosh well justjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► clarify Macs have been my computer since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► 1987 and I've owned one since 88 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► just that for that there was a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► where I had two computers one of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► is a very old like 386 PC that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► used for development and listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► streaming music that was but pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► all but it was it wasn't like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► board long like a big piece of plywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► in my office but it was the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► that somebody it was in that what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► this that we're talking about 2003 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► probably yeah - when you and I first met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► we were on tour with Ken string it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► after the first record him before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► second record because the second record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► was what you know that was that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► of when we became really I think better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► friends and like went to the website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► everything a 2002 was when when we met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► for sure we did something to her out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► with the Stringfellow on his touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► tour that's such a good record it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► good record it pains me to say that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► uniforms oh my god it's so good but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► was an oh my god do you know the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► that it came out I'll give you a hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► same day a very good jay-z record came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► out that got a little overlooked for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► while holy shit oh it came out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► September 11 9/11 2001 Wow that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► I do remember holy shit and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► reason that we didn't tour it until a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► little bit later because it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► well I can't really go on tour now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► partner she says but it was but you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► started talking about Macintoshes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► in a way in a different way where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► no longer because you remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► question was alright yo max were my gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► let's be honest yeah but the question up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► until that point culturally had always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► been well sure get a McIntosh if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► want to not be compatible with anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► like if you're it's great if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► inside of a small little corral do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► want to pay three times as much to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► yeah but if you want to be you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► you want to be part of the world if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► want to integrate and use email and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► computer okay get a real computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► and I think that was right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► turning point where it was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► mackintoshes are real computers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► because I I egg and not agonize because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► I had a Mac classic in 1988 that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► know had Mac Paint and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► recording my voice into it mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► being astonished that it played my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► back out of it like whoa computers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► really tested out the box Mac's handled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► you know if you knew how to do it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► would handle audio stuff you didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► to buy a board for it or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► that yeah it was I mean I did not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► how to do it so I I was I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► actually still have a recording I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► in 1990 where my girlfriend Kate at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► time was sitting on my lap at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► computer and we were both sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► basically being amazed by it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► recorded this clip you know a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► brief little clip of her it would fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► up your entire heart it's like a global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► computer but she's lat like giggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► laughing because I'm tickling her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► it's just like and you know and when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► I listened to it a hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► times oh you know tears streaming down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► my face thinking back all those short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► weeks ago to when life was so easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► everything made sense and I change they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► change so quickly how they really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► the reason I have that is that at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► time in the 2000s or early 2000s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► probably about this same time that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► talking about 2002 the stranger here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► Seattle newspaper still was running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► somewhere in the office a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► old that could use those hard hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► and Shawn Nelson said hey do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► anything stuck on an old computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► because if you do this would be the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► to transfer it into a new format because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► we're gonna unplug this old thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► that will probably be the last time any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► one of these things is hooked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► anything else and I said I do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► stuff and I went and got this big box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► those little discs and sat at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► stranger and transferred all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► into you know made that made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► transition into whatever the new format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► was at the time and the computer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► like do you want us to reformat this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► I was like yes and so I still have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► that stuff from from 1994 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► because of that that small little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► gesture making the transition but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► you were the one I think that said to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► don't be afraid to buy Apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► you're not gonna be on the wrong side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► history uh-huh and I and I you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► was like wow they're really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► and I mean they're super pretty but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► if you want to hook it to something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► think I could be you say as you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► there's this is all drenched in moss but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► my running deal for a long time was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► I I cannot unless you're really ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► for the journey I cannot recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► buying Mac stuff but what I would offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► all along which I did for too much too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► long for too many people was I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► your Sherpa and your rabbi to the extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► possible when when it's weird or when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► you don't understand something I'll help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► you set it up and that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► so 2002-2003 would be right around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► period when I was very first feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► more confident in saying I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► to put as many asterisks on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► part where I was like this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► this is getting better this is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► weird there's stuff out there forgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► you know knowing the context and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► somebody needs to do I can feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► confident about saying you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► feel like like an idiot for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► bought this plus I will help you with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► yeah and you did you were very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► but and I was I was afraid the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► money to invest in you feel you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► be a sucker like you're like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► getting into some kind like for like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► with Internet of Things stuff right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► you don't want to go all-in spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► thousand dollars on something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► gonna be a Oh El Din like a year like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► you just don't to feel like a sucker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► well but also it seems like the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► of things you don't want to do at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► am I am I wrong in saying that yeah same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► for the show you know be careful where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► hmm I do not want my thermostat looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► at my bare bottom I know to the sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► you choose who looks at your bare bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► that's you that's Johnny's ition I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► sign on to my patreon and go to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► level you'll see my stretch goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► I'll reach around you are not gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► it just because I put a new lock on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► door that I gave a man just look at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► snorkeler cats girl you know I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► about that a lot what but by which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► mean there's an audience for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and I've I've considered there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► a couple of times when I was like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► if I just went what if I just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► YouTube where I just read things aloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► if I just went there and be like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► some more people would love it yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► it's just like somebody reading to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► who knows how to read and who likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► read aloud I figured I could go on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► read all my old Seattle Weekly articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► aloud really slowly like here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► thing I mean I don't know but it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► would have to create enough there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► to be enough stuff that it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► channel rather than just like here's 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► episodes of a thing I'll be nice if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► had something something thematic to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► ride themes themes would be a good theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► right I could read I could read aloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► all the like BDSM literature that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► good idea or like the way you did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► where she can do is harm but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► correspondence you chose to include with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► that wonderful booklet right John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► Oh read every angry letter I ever got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► from anybody back so great now you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► listen to Spotify you're not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► to see John's angry correspondence king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► coming you know I got it there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► something on Facebook the other day from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► someone of my generation saying do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► but a lot of the people that replied who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► are music business people they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► there was all this love for the EP which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► you know what labels that sounds very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► very like a retcon but you buddy well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► you buddy peed because you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► superfan and wanted this one tracker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► because you were cheap these were never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► the preferred way to get it it's just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► bought stuff on EP i eventually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► stuff on EP because like you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► this rare version of behind the wall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► sleep that was live but like I'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► have you know the the original you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► LP well I'm like an idiot we didn't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► commander thanks allowed on an LP it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► only put it on an EP but no they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► saying digital EPS like you know like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► said any mean anymore don't release 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► songs it's a very iTunes II thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► when you go into iTunes and you see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► they might be giants obviously have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► this a lot of bands have done this Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► have done this there's all these bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► with oh my god what are all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► things it's just single single single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► EEP EEP EEP it must have something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► with the way that things are calculated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► or distributed you need to EPP well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► I liked when I discovered I discovered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► new band a little bit ago and I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► four of their tunes like I listened to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► tune I liked it I listened to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► tune full of apprehension please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► let me hate their second song I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► too this is you know where you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► oh shit the hook is in and I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► a third song really crossing my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► like please don't let them only have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► good songs and I liked the third song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► and by the time I got to the fourth song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► that I liked I said enough it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► blackjack it was like I'm gonna hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► because it can't they cannot possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► take this winning streak all the way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► to five and I got four of them so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► leave me be with these four is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► to listen to on repeat mr. Bandai no car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► seat car seat headrest car seat headrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► aren't work by elephant but the but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► it struck me as was like oh shit this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► an EP I just self-feed this band hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► yeah well interesting like four Tunes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► kind of can pull out four cartoons right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► I mean if if all INXS had ever done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► throughout their whole career was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► put out four songs every year and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► becomes an e-book there will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► compilation of all the things we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► choose to disagree on good stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► had that dream on white girl black girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► are you saying that you do not think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► that INXS had any good songs no no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► think she Bhushan ball had some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► good stuff on it and you're right three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► P's like the weird period like before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► they got super duper popular like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► period before soup and salad bar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► they had some really good they had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► really good singles for sure good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► singles I just I think I kind of got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► little fatigued on there Bam Bam oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► from kick on yeah I I can't listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► but like that early eighties stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► like I think the one thing is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► good it's a really good song yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► little look um you know they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► were up there with you too in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► like who was good in 1981 yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► don't followed them all the way to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► first album like like a listen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► thieves listen like these I followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► them that far what pseudo salad bar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► was not any farther suicide blonde was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► yeah jiminy Christmas it's late it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► so kick when I was in college kick was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► popular and I felt like that was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► pour some sugar on me like they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► jumped the shark but up until then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► listen like thieves had had that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► that was very pop that I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► normal people did not want to hear but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► did which was watch a need get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► watching me yeah that's that's for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► oh this time it had this time what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► believe last time this time is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► good song like this well this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► I'm saying so here we go yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► two really good songs on on listen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► thieves and I do not count listen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► thieves the song that's one student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► that's what you need in this time super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► two songs and then you go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► swing the record before that and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► looking like you're looking at you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► original sin yeah burn for you I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► that was that was my by year yeah only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► one good song who Shabbat came out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► that crazy fucking summer summer 82 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► there was so much good New Wave and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► has got oh don't change don't change is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► a good song it's a really good song so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► yeah there it is right there damn freak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► salt on that record you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► underneath the colors let's hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► this continues my theory no doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► just has that one song stay on which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► listen 8:00 p.m. to go and then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► first record definitely had where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► why boy a black girl that's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► was an EP I think that's the dream on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► white boy black girl so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► I think that's an EP let me look uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► countdown Awards Grammy Awards okay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► might be a thing that has a name that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► just glanced over that we don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► them I'm gonna get it I'm gonna get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► I'm gonna get it box that's extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► ah could be wrong deca dance derp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► deca dance is it original sin is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► the song no that's not it is it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► original sin not going to YouTube I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► cut all this out yeah no Rachel oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► also I will go as far as saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► never tear us apart is a good song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► that's the one song kick that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► I'll allow you just overdid it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► bat down okay original sir I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► you know it's like orc pop but I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► 100% down with orc pop mmm I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► been an orc popper what that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► orchestral pop oh oh oh no no what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► what about it Tears for Fears where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► you stay one Tears for Fears today well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► you know Tears for Fears with directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► back and forth in the public eye I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► like you and I have talked about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► before probably the time I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► opposed to Tears for Fears because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► the over emotive faces they weren't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► echo and the Bunnymen 2.0 for me we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► like I incorrectly lumped them in so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► my head echo in the bunny man was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► almost like a goth band which couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► be well not further from the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► but like they were a really good guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► pop band like you know fantastic songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► and that was bad on me for lumping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► in with like what I thought was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► silly rock and I think yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► Tears for Fears has mostly aged pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► well and there's really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► good singers I you know their songs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► really good it was our good friend Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► Squires friend of the program Mike Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► program who's a metalhead who turned me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► back around on Tears for Fears and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► was like hey man you got to get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► right side of Tears for Fears because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► they're great they're mine right I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► I don't have to get on the right side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► anything and he was like no no seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► this is a really great record and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► again one of these situations somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► sat me down like you sat me down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► front of the office he sat me down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► front of that the tears for the tears is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► for Fears is and and it was absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► true like George Michael says listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► without prejudice you get back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► listen to these outside of that con [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► maybe not watching the music videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► that's it you know cuz I see video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► like sowing the seeds of love it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► of a silly song but like I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► that's a really a generally good psych [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► pop song but you remember you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► the power you know the the power that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► music video had at the time so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► make-or-break how you felt about a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► and famous cars would have gotten as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► as they got without the videos on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► heartbeat city I mean the cars were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► those songs are so great but Ric Ocasek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► and those his faith and those crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► videos and polina parts of Cova yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► supermodel that was all very very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► it was so graphic and even then bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► were putting out videos where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► just like a camcorder and some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► after after effect well that's why those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► records especially we remember when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► video from magic came out he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► walking on water in the pool and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► like oh my god because it's gonna win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► all of the MTV like special Achievement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► Awards and yeah I mean wasn't their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► finest work but like its they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► pop songs they had a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► synchronicity problem synchronicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► another one that goes on the list I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► believe isn't that another one we agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► to disagree I'm Pro synchronicity okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► yeah but no is it I know that you I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► that you have feelings about it close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► I mean post synchronicity you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► is there Russians Russians love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► children too but with rhyming dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► famously Billy Squier came out with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► music video where he would see him sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► rock mean Internet in a in a pink tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► top that was that was the the room of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► its time that that is a very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► video to watch today yeah well and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► apparently because of the video but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► lot of that stuff like the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► that you saw sting in dream of the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► turtles do that weird dance with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► Stratocaster I never wanted to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► wouldn't I didn't want to ever see sting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► again I didn't want to see him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► because it was such a weird dance and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► think Tears for Fears had a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► like just the way there the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► while they sang it just was so emo yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► I was like I don't want to watch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► guys here do like grossing me out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► your emo it's unseemly it's that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► was it that was a kind of like a strat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► dance that I think like been from Death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► Cab kind of refined into making his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► thing he he has a special guitar dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► that I think is very effective he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENHubUw/3592">TS</a>]