01:00:00 ◼ ► late for to-do item because you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► do it at a particular time depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► how you view things how many you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► use one calendar KC way to use I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► shared Google Calendar that is off of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► gmail account that Aaron and I share and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that is the canonical family calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► that being said anything that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► during the workday or anything that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► some reason I don't want Aaron to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► like maybe I've booked a time to go buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► her a gift or something like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► that's the only thing I can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► that I wouldn't want her to see or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► something that's irrelevant to her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► goes on my work calendar just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► he's going to the Tesla dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► exactly right how did you know but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► yes so basically the Google Calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► that's associated with my gmail account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► well strictly speaking my Google Apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► for my domain account that is a shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► calendar that that she has on her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► that she has on her computer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► everywhere that is the canonical list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► family calendar and then anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► is basically basically anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► happens during the workday or for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► reason I don't want her to be burdened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► with that is on my work calendar what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► your work calendar its Google Apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► everywhere so I also have a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► work calendar it's not Google because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► work doesn't use Google at work out look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► whatever exchange and I don't I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► that's split I like that split I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► not having my work calendar messed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► my family code most ago than my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► calendar is totally bonkers like is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► massively booked and oversubscribed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► I would never want that noise in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► right and then the life calendar is less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► and there's a split the market but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► pretty much the same split that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► like on the family calendar it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► know podcast recording I would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► plumber on the calendar it would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► all-day item and then reminders are if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► I'm doing something off the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► schedule I do put what I do put what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► time I have to leave work on my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► calendar I do put what time I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► leave home on my home calendar for days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► where that is different than normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► right so if I have to write if I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► very early meeting and I want to remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► yet today you have a early meeting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► actually have to be working or earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► than you normally are I put that on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► home calendar early in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► if I have to leave work early to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► parent-teacher conference I put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► my work calendar which is weird like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► was thinking about for the to-do apps as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► well and when I use reminders I'm a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► of time I'm choosing a system based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► where I think I'll be when I'll need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► this information and what I think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► be doing if I think my phone will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► with me reminders is a candidate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► that's where I'm gonna see it but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► think I won't have my phone if I put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► reminders not gonna do me any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► you know if I'm if I'm someplace where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► don't have that and that's the homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► calendar split is I don't want to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► at my work calendar at home and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► look at my home calendar at work which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► you requires some combining of stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► for the to do stuff like marker said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► with the multiple applications that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► you know task specific I just got done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► asking for the ability to say like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► reminding you whatever and have you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► a single app the next logical step and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► that is to have it understand you well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► enough to know when you ask to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► something to your shopping list that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► means this Apple when you when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► something about the trash it means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► app right these are all within the realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► of reason because these are a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► narrow problem demands and also within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► the realm of you know Apple's favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► thing machine learning where if you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► talking about the trash it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► eventually like learn or ask you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► your actual trash day is and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► be able to say increasingly offhand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► casual things which result in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► correct being reminded at the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► time because it has some context in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► history about what you've done in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► past we're not asking for how bind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► thousand here I think all this is within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► the grass but it's the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► probably Google probably already knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► about us from like monitoring all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► I would love for those systems to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► just a little tiny bit smarter so Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► how long until you write your own is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► really what we all want to know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► not an unreasonable question it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► totally my style to get upset with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► the options and just write my own but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► honestly I don't think that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► happen I you know there's first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► there's limited time in the day and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► a little bit of a crowded market perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► honestly it well it isn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► there's only so many they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► problem is that for this is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► similar problem that that that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► John Gruber and Brent Simmons and Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► whiskas had with Vesper yeah is that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► enter this market in a competitive way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► that's that's useful to a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► you really need to be on like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► Apple platforms at once at launch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► that's really hard for any India to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► these days like I'm not gonna use as do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► a to-do app that is not on my Mac and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► iPhone and my iPad and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► are also gonna need a watch app that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► getting really like the barrier is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► so high that it is certainly possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► for people to do it and there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► certainly some people who are totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► fine to have it say only on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► That's not me and that's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► many people unfortunately and so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► order to make a good to do a that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► actually competitive you really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► launch on all those platforms at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► and that's just really a massive amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► of work that I don't think I'm ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► not only the bandwidth to do but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► like I don't have the passion for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► market at all I'm happy to use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► apps and talk about them once on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► podcast for 30 minutes but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► don't think I'm going to fall in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► with to do app systems and suddenly want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► to make my own enough to actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► willing to devote the massive amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► time it would take to make apps for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► these platforms to make it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► so another this actually reduces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► amount of work but it does is a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► approach to reducing the apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► footprint on all the different platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► is the approach that I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► Google is taking this approach I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► other apps have done it as well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► you decide that the problem you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► solving well you know whatever ever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► to do laptops or whatever you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► to implement that entirely server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and with some smart somewhere right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► that the interface to those smarts will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► be something that is not directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► connected with a task so in the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► in Google's case like I forget what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► it was it a low or something like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► basically had a chat app it's bubbles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► text it's you versus the thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► communicating with and that chat app can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► be used to chat with any person or thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► there's nothing in the chat app that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► specific to the problem so you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► have the chat app on all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► is on your watch it's on your phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► on your Mac or whatever you just write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► that chat app once and then what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► intelligent agents that know how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4007">TS</a>]
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01:13:52 ◼ ► job of being all things to all people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► you want to write sort of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► functional programming and yes I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► that there's f sharp but like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► want to get halfway to functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► programming you can do that with C sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► if you want to write kind of basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► boring procedural stuff you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► with C sharp if you want to write super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► object-oriented stuff you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► with C sharp and I know that the C sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► is not the only language that all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► applies to I'm waiting for John to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► in and talk about pearl but C sharp does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► a really good job of being just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► anything to anyone and I do miss xishi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► sharp a lot I am I don't really mind X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► code which means one of a couple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► it means either I'm still a noob which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► is possible it means either I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► haven't been burned by it which is semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► true or it means I'm an idiot which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► possible as well but in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► that everyone else seems to complain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► moan about X code like I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► mind it and maybe it's because Visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► Studio well great in many ways is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► aesthetically an assault on my eyes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► Xcode for all of its faults Xcode does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► one thing very well and that's be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► very pretty Marco you said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► earlier about you know hey I'm a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► user and I'm an apple person so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► things to be pretty or well designed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► forget how you phrased it earlier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► yeah it's it's that right like Xcode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► painful in some ways but a it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► forever will be better than eclipse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► don't email me and B it is it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► that bad in my personal opinion now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► Swift like code completion what is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► source kit is that what I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► like source kit is at an utter disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► but Xcode itself it's not bad and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► it and do I miss Visual Studio no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► and holy hell do I not miss anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► related to Windows nothing about Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► is something I miss or long for I am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► unbelievably thankful to be off Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► I cannot even verbalize it I am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► thankful to be away from that so I miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► C sharp net whatever it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► gives me C sharp Visual Studio me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► right David steer asks the next time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► discuss single versus multi thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► processing would it be possible to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► it a couple of real-world examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► tasks or applications that perform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► better in each process I love the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► but a mother technical and sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► struggled to and sometimes struggled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► give context to your discussions trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► to figure out exactly what is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► asked here because one way to read it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► like what types of things benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► multiple threads and that's getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► the Marco zone of like look if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► doing this type of task and you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► 10-car Mac Pro you'll see a big benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► a Mac Pro but if you're doing this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► of task you're not going to see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► benefit because it's not you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► doesn't use multiple cores and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► which tests those are really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► a lot of factors including just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► what the application is like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► Final Cut Pro 10 wasn't particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► strong at multi-threading until recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► processing does or doesn't benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► the other way to think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► question is they're asking like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► makes something a problem to which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► can apply some parallelism beyond like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► you know any kind of parallelism or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► degrees of parallelism I think that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► think that's probably closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► answer so I'm going to try to give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► non-technical explanation it's best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► can do this so doing stuff in parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► requires a problem where you can break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► it up into pieces and that the pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► don't have dependencies between them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► have a lot of dependencies between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► obvious example that comes up a lot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► almost anything having to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► graphics processing where you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► lot of dots on your screen and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► most part dots may depend on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► neighboring dots but they don't depend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► on the dots way over at the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► so if you're taking an entire image and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► blurring it you can break that image up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► into a bunch of smaller pieces dole out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► those pieces to a bunch of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► are gonna work on them all at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► time and then put the pieces back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► together at the end lots of graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► cards do exactly that for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► tiling processing but in general just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► they are worked on as much as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► in parallel by your graphics card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► there's probably a Wikipedia page on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► this expression but there is a term of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► art in the computer science world called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► embarrassingly parallel problems where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► it is so easy to parallel eyes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► you can break it up and do as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► chunks is you want and there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► of chunks and so it's like look if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► gave me a million processors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► problem is embarrassingly parallel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► could break it up into a million pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► and do them all at once and it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► a million times faster than doing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► one at a time right you know assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► the thing is processes at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► parallelize is based on sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► nature of the problem there are problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► that you can't do in parallel because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► the to do step one to do step two you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► need the answer from step one to do step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► three you need the answer for step two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► so you can't break you can't do steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► one two and three all at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► and so that's the high level computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► size the explanation you can apply your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► basic reasoning about things to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► discover whether a particular problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► you're having is parallelizable in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► way is it embarrassingly parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► or is it generally serial by nature but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► that's when we get into the complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► parallelizable say mp3 encoding but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► turns out the mp3 encoder I have doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► do anything in parallel it just does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► from the beginning to the end and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► where marco said well I can it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► embarrassingly parallel but I can break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► this audio track up into five pieces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► and then put the five pieces back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► together and now I've done it five times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► faster right you can't break it up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► a billion pieces because at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► point you're doing I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► size is Marco would know if like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► single frame or whatever that 1,200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► yeah like there there is some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► some unit size that beyond which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► don't get any benefit but that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► example where the problem itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► parallelizable but the but you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► if I buy a faster computer my mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► encoding will be faster not if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► using an unparalleled mp3 encoder it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► complicated okay see you want to try a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► different angle yeah so what I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► working on lately is this thing where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► have a folder full of photographs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► or there may be live photos so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► photograph in and a movie and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► file them away in a particular way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► what I've run into is some of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► parallelizable and some of the some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► it is not so if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► anytime that I have a any photo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► doesn't share a date so if for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► on on today which is the 7th of February [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► I take only one photograph with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► iPhone I can without worrying about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► conflict I can just copy that to where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► want it to go right because without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► worrying about a conflict with any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► photos taken from my iPhone I can copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► it to where I want it to go but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► take 15 or if I took 15 photos yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► it's possible that maybe some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► were taken at the same hour minute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► second maybe I did a burst or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► paralyzed of parallelizable in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► it is not I've met when I was relisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► last week's episode I meant to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► you more about how you're gonna resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► your race condition and how you said my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► thing is bug-free except for the massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► reason that's not bug free I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► could you could parallelize by day what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► I've what I was trying to explain and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► think I've done a poor job of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► that's why I want it to be cut is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4918">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► if if in the batch of photos that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► I have no conflicts in terms of date so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► the hour minute and second is unique all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► all the media that has a unique hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► minute and second can be processed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► parallel so that is to say it may have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► conflict in the tour in the destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► but it doesn't have a tart or it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► have a conflict amongst its peers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► I'm doing that that are being imported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► that does that make any sense at all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► it does yeah but I'm honestly I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► of wondering like does this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► benefit from parallelization like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► seems like it's pretty fast to just dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► the files serially so here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► the problem with the the reason I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► it may benefit from parallelization is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► that there's two different things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► play number one let's say that I took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► photo at exactly noon today just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► sake of discussion I took a photo at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► exactly noon today and it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► the destination so my photo repository [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► that has every photograph I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► taken also already has by some mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► don't worry about why but let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► it already has a photo that was taken at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► exactly noon today at 12 o'clock at 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► minutes and 0 seconds one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► that my app is going to do is it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► going to say hey let me take an md5 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► the source that I'm trying to import and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► of the thing that's already at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► target and if the md5 is the same then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► need to take like evasive action so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► speak so I need to increment the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► fire I need to add a suffix to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► imported file name so instead of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► 2018 - o - - o 7 space 12 - oo - oo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► imported file will be all of that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► an A at the end the letter A at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► because they're two different files well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► if you're doing that across a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► bunch of files at once which presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► I am that may be well-served to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► parallelized because on an average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► modern processor you have at least two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► if not four or six or eight or ten or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► twelve or 18 cores which are all working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► simultaneously to solve problems and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► it makes sense to split this same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► of operation across all or at least some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► where it doesn't make sense to split it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► is if I have multiple pictures that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► taken at 12 o'clock in 0 seconds because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► then I can get into this race condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► that I found earlier which is to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► the the first photo that I'm processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► looks at the target and says oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► nothing there and starts the copy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► second photo that I'm processing looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► at the target and says oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► nothing there and tries to start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► copy but then they collide with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► other and that's the problem that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► running into before and that's in I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► solving it now by parallelizing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► that doesn't have an internal conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► because even if it has a conflict at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► target that's fine it doesn't matter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► can still parallelize it but if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► an internal conflict then then then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► have a problem and so anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► doesn't have an internal conflict can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► parallelized anything that has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► internal conflict will be serialized so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► what if you in parallel read the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► files get there get whatever date and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► timestamp buckets they belong to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► stuff all that into an array then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► then serially just have a thing run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► conflicts resolve them and do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► renaming serially because like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► gonna be like that's gonna be so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► anyway like you're really just relying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► on the file system speed at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► yes but no but the thing that I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► mentioned and I have made I I alluded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► this earlier than never actually put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► period on the sentence the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► haven't mentioned is that my target for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► all of these image and also movie files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► my target is actually my Synology so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► it's not the local file system I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► crawl across the network to do all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► these check sums and to figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► these files are identical or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► some of these video setup that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► taking I mean like like five or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► minutes of 4k video off the iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► multiple gigabytes so if it a rename [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► should be quick right isn't that what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► well you could import it somewhere first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► then do a rename later it really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► yes but what again what I'm what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► process is that I'm saying hey I found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► destination which in my case happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► five both the local file that is on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► local file system are at worst on an SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► card attached to my physical computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► but I also need to do an md5 on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► remote file that's on the Synology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► that can take forever and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► want to paralyze it so anything that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► I want to parallel eyes anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► I'm sorry anything that doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► conflict internally anything that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► know will not collide with any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► other files I'm importing that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► parallelized it's the the what I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► about is if I have 15 files on my SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► card that we're all taken at twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► o'clock in 0 seconds that's what I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► to do it serially because otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► run into a situation where I say oh just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► the target that makes sense but so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► like what when when something is slow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► this case it's probably being limited by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► like the transfer bandwidth of the SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► card or the network protocol for really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► whatever like I dis paralyzing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► actually get you anything or is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► clog it up and make everything run you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► know like where you can run ten things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► at 1/10 the speed each he's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► spent more time writing this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► that he's gonna point out that your race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► condition is like a look canonical race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► condition which is if something's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► and then go do the thing and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► you're going to do the thing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► that you check was okay is right so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► suggestion for a strategy for dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► serializing any portion of it is to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► what other past technologies have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► including unix and in this specific case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► Ethernet you want carrier sense multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► access with collision detection it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► kind of getting it what a marker always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► saying don't do everything in parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► you just need some kind of remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► atomic operation and even with an ass if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► you can get the stuff on to the nasa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► do a rename local to the nasa hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► you can get atomic renames and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► just try to do your rename and if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► name fails because the file exists you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► increment it and then you try to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► exponential back-off and you just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► all the parallel things fight it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► because there is no inherent order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► things that are literally you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► any increased resolution if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► you'd put it in the file name right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► there's no inherent order to the new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► pictures right they're all just new in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► pictures mmm so let me Duke it out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► no no locks no shared state no wig no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► serialization and you'd be surprised at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► how nicely things terminate because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► is the network's it tries and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► line is busy it weights a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► tries again if it's still busy awaits a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► little bit longer and tries again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► everything works yeah but there is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► of an inherent order right because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► source file name is like IMG underscore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► 1 1 1 1 IMG underscore 1 are you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► about that so why aren't you using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► yeah wait you have sequential name from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► the in the source that doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► totally solve your problem well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► why I'm running the collision that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► potential collision stuff serially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► that's exactly why I'm running it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► serially so I'm guaranteed you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► already got you you've already got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► unique unique a fire that you'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► have a collision because you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► date you're doing the import and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► yeah what's what's the problem he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► doesn't want to put two dates in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► final menses problem it's too much too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► much of an aesthetic is this happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► in these file names there no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► right because I want it to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► 2018 most 2018 Oh 207 people are using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► and B do you go to a a and then a B and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► then a see the you think oh ay ay ay ay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► I've never run into a situation when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► that's a problem but I understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► point and there's another another bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► free program that you'll never be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► than 26 conflicts you sir you are why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► will never open source yes when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► iPhone 15 shoots shoots like you know 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► frame per second burst photos you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► gonna have a problem I think the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► is that you're not an old and crusty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► enough programmer is always fine and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► like do we need to use unsigned 256 bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► something that briefly touched on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► source code to like one of those Bitcoin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► or some other cryptocurrency and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► were literally using like that I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► seen it in like seed like the the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► 256 type for like for one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► values because they're like 64 bits is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► unsigned precision for this value like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► AB you are really future proofing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► thing that will be gone in two years not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► not Bitcoin just some other random I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► so moving on so where do we leave this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► cuz John you did exactly what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► supposed to do which is give it over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► me and then I completely ruined it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► I tried but I think that we have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► question has been addressed to the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► that we can do in a ski teepee style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► segment really you should you'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► to talk about it with Mike when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► like your computer science e-learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► stuff if that even that even keeps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► and wait a second since when did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► ever listen to analog I know you do from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► time to time but I am vaguely aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► many podcasts like you're my dad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► best way to characterize my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► podcast listening which is very spotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► and diffuse no I was doing that I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► so Thomas no switz saw or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► that writes have any of you ever tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► meditation please discuss no I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► never tried meditation John I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► sure no I might have done something no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► you have lots of things qualify as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► meditation and I'm sure as a teenager I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► probably did one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► was called sleeping thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► called zoning out no no anyway I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► say no that no is the quick answer I too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► have not tried anything III have a vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► concept of the kinds of things you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► supposed to do I I kind of want to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► it someday but it's never been more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► like a passing notion like that for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► was hoping one of us had done that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► I put this question in there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► surely one of us has tried meditation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► but nope we've just heard podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► it you know what I really want to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► really want to get a hypnotized sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► because I think that's bogus I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5578">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► it's a bunch of malarkey and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► think it's real but I want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► smoking so then you can try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► now we're gonna hear from so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► about everything that just happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► alright so thanks for sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► Kaspar betterment and hellofresh and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► we're gonna hear from listen we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► haven't tried meditation but we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► helped the truth I don't really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► anything bad about meditation Casey said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► we're gonna hear from the meditation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► people the smoking people the hypnotists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► allegedly more like we're gonna hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► from all of those people now I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► might hear from the hypnotize people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► you won't hear were smokers who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► hypnotists I don't know it helps some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► people quit smoking if that's the goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► does it work did it help you quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► smoking sure yeah I suppose it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► really matter yeah you just have to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► you believe it works and it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► helps you quit smoking great like stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► on your head whatever works don't smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► kids it's terrible now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► accidental oh it was accidental johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► research Margo and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► accidental you can find the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► at adp yl is s so that's K sealless ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► RC o AR m and T Marco baby update I so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5674">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► love Michaela to death she is adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► and she is my precious little angel yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► if she doesn't learned how to sleep I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► going to go insane she's brand new like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► this is like this takes a while usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► I am extremely lucky to I've had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► child let alone two I cannot believe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► good fortune that I have had two so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► healthy children either one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► could have been unhealthy or had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► sort of physical ailment that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► been really unfortunately in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► ways I am extremely lucky but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► heat of the moment it's funny how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► kind of forget that I'm so miserable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► how long are the usual sleep stretches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► at night between two and a half and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► three and a half hours now it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► which is not terrible but is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► and to be fair the funniest part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► is that Aaron hasn't really woken me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► deliberately to help with the nighttime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► stuff in like a week so I am being this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► much of a baby and all I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► getting woken up when I hear the cry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► then going right back to roll over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► no this is true this is how ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► men are you're really not having a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► showing right now oh no I know I'm fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► aware of this a hundred percent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► maybe I shouldn't maybe I should not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► men myself but like okay I mean all men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► cannot feed i cannot feed Mikayla I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► don't have the equipment to feed Mikayla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► right but the fact that I'm this much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► a baby after being woken up like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► said by a bunch of like oh yeah oh geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► we gotta wake up earlier to go to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► every part of this is B being but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► the biggest baby in the house a for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► look I can help you with two liquids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► vodka and coffee I will let you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► when to apply each one to the baby these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► both go into you at different time don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► do at the same time it's a bad idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► early may not appreciated you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► things that she can't yeah that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► part of it but but you know if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► being a little bit happier and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► bit more functional turns into you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► a little more helpful unless of a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► she might appreciate yeah right so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► yeah this you know obviously this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► hard time for anybody it is it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► could be so much worse like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► think that Mikayla is is to the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► being having colic I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► right right phrasing is but she is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► fussy for a lot of the day but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► not go to go so far as to say that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► is like you know Alex was or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► like that like she is she is manageable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► but horrible Alex by comparison John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► eldest was from everything I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► told indescribable bad in a way you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► know you're reached Alex level when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► find yourself bringing your baby to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5878">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► chiropractor oh yeah no no no not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► in the baby is it in constant pain is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► filled with spice I'm going to go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► anything scan my baby is it filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► bees like we will try anything that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► is there a spell on my baby colic is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► of those words it means nothing - it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► that means you're busy cries oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► that's something like I recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► I'm being the biggest baby in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► I I mean that you're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► hard right like it's for anybody even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► even for like the weak baby men it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► having a new infant in the house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► you're caring for is a lot of work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► it's hard on everybody so you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► don't need to belittle yourself over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► that it's hard for everybody it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► constructive or useful to get into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► trying to outdo each other of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► well it's hard for me well it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► me to like don't worry about that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► that's not constructive it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► everybody it's hard for you it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► for Aaron it's hard for Mikayla it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► probably hard for Declan to like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► hard for everyone second sleeping like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► baby so to speak thankfully misery feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► like unfair it's like oh come on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► can't wake the other one up we did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► the work like it's everyone it's a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► time for everyone so the best thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► can do is just try to be as functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► and useful as you can and try to add as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► little drama and problems as possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► the situation that is already very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► on everybody so whatever you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► to do that do that so if that's coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► sometimes I'm vodka some other times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► fine keep it under control but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► otherwise fine like you know if it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► like cuz like that's the most helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► thing you can do right now for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► including yourself is to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► yourself useful and to try to not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► bogged down by the hardships and drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► of this although like wait you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► trying to remind yourself how lucky you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► are which is a place that parents often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► go to try and I found a perhaps more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► successful method is to remind yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► in it you should have an easy time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► this to remind yourself this this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► pass like they don't stay they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► stay babies forever like you you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► it you have done it and this will pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► and I find I personally find that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► more comforting than trying to remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► because that's like okay another night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► off the chalkboard like the kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► getting older this he's he or she is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► going to be three months old forever yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► literally earlier tonight as we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► I sent the following text to Aaron but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► in the same way nobody goes to college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► in diapers she will eventually learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► sleep that's a big one with potty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► training is the other time you remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► yourself most kids are not thirty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► still going in the diaper it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► happen I remember reminding Marco of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► that remember but now it's done like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► it's it's totally like it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► surprising like you know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► you're doing it forever and then one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► it just kind of just you're past it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► just happens that he's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► gonna go off to college with diapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► exactly and it seems like when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► it it seems like it's never gonna end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► and you're like oh my god what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► problem here good effect over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► chiropractor yeah I know but the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► is like yeah it'll end and so you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► you know get through it keep yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► and your family healthy and as happy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► possible given the challenge and and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► like I'm not saying you have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► the extreme I'm going to like your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► local neighborhood like psychic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► Exorcist but you bring up all the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► with the doctor because some babies have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► legitimate reasons that can be treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► they can they can help and so you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► you should exhaust those right just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► maybe don't go the step further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► start you know being totally desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► you know from having a kid before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► know that things are hard for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► and then they end and there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► there's new challenges that arise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► challenge you're in it eventually ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► and then you know so you get to move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► and that's just a thing that becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► eventually she will sleep and it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► be that big of a problem and it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► might happen next week or it might take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► two years or more likely somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► between and it you know you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► coming it's gonna be hard until it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► here but you did it once before you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► you are a human you are an adult you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► do hard things like also you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► a choice yeah this is like I am very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► happy and I'm sure underscore will be - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► to teach you how to use coffee it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► wonderful faces so many way or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► it improves so much of this like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► a reason why coffee is so popular this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► is a thing I don't know if you heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► about it in the world but it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► Tiny's Drive kids but it's nice it helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► Syracuse let me down if his beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► Accord could be had with a stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► anything other than cloth and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► no other options I would have won all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► seats are great were you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► expensive luxury cars with cloth seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► because there's so much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► leather you know what's awesome static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► in the winter when you rub against them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► you get static I live in the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► place I don't have static and quasi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► that's fine all right no but that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► thing of people wanting cloth seats in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► their luxury sporty cars because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► grip you better right and also there how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► could rip you better that makes no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► leather is not literally sticky but kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► of sort of sleeve you do kind of slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► on leather when it's cold but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► better in this summer they caught the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► cloth seats no it's funny because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► been talking to a couple other friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► of mine this is the one that had the r32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► and previously before that the m3 the 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► m3 and he's the one that suggested both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► the legacy in the 335 so I really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► never trust him about any car ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► and he's also suggested the go far by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► the way but anyway I was talking to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► and another friend of ours about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► know I really want to go far but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► really want a sunroof like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► really really don't like not having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► and then oh you know you wouldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► mousse it you wouldn't even know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► feel like that's sort of kinda the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► conversation we're having now you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► even know you you have no cloth seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► and forever clothes teach a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► burger well as attorney wouldn't miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► cloth seats I'm just saying the stack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► not as big a problem as he thinks it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► especially now I would take cloth seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► that's an interesting question actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► I think I agree I think I agree like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► leather is just making you like feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► luxurious and having a nice smell right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► but leather in terms of just what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► feels like to sit in it is not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► Holy Grail is cloth seats with seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► heaters which almost nobody makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► because then you're like oh I have if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► want to get seat heaters I have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► leather right ahead of them in my Accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► my nobody makes that these days because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► basically once you go to seat heaters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► you also get like the leather package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► right because it seems luxurious leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► you know whether or fake leather yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► don't really I don't draw a lot like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► line between those two I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► there's fake leather is so good these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► days that it doesn't really matter which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► one I have I don't even notice really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► all I know is to go back a half step you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► know my friends were saying oh you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► don't even know you wouldn't even miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► the sunroof in the Gulf are you you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► before I do be fine well as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► my legacy GT that I had before the 335 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► it was something to the order of $3,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► to get basically two options and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► was leather and a sunroof and I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► the legacy because my then car a 300zx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► wouldn't stay on the road sound familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► at all and it couldn't stay on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► because it was always in the shop and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► I bought the the Legacy GT after having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► been employed as a real adult for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► literally a month or two months or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► something like that which is to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► was friggin broke and $3,000 would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► destroyed me financially like truly even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► like over the course of you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► four or five or probably even have a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► year car loan I was so broke at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► but whatever it was like that $3,000 yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► I understand it was only like ten or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► twenty or thirty dollars a month but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► that would have ruined me truly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► really would have ruined me so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► get it and I had that car for like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► years I had it from oh four to twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► twelve yeah I was eight years and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► single day in the spring summer and fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► where it wasn't actively precipitating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► hated not having a sunroof I hated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► marco's point not having leather less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► but I hated that too and so I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► both of you not that you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► arguing with me but I can tell both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► friends with with confidence that yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► have lived the non sunroof life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► have lived the not leather life and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► sucks and I don't want to go back but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► leather I just I don't I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► cloth and that's like such a thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► say it just it feels so not nice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► there's a wide variability in cost these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► cloths disease just basically means not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► whether or not pretending to be those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► very wide variability in whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► fuzzy or like stitched or you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► sorts of different textures and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► patterns and all that other stuff I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► wondering what you missed other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► that it feels more luxurious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► we've been trained to think leather is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► fancier I think it was just that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► even the Saturn that I had the infamous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► Saturn where the wheel fell off even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► that head like I'm serious I swear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► God why I'm surprised you were like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► only person who has like this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► let their insider like do you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► kind of car you're getting like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► lot of people have been saying in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► even in the chat room just moments ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► Tim underscore underscore was saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► same thing a lot of people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► saying why are you even considering a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► golf are why not get a GTI you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► GTI with sunroof it is not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► slower what is wrong with you why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► wouldn't you do that and my answer has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► always been twofold one I would want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► best of what I was getting if at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► possible because that's kind of who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► to come I'll blame that on Marco but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► it's kind of always been a bit of me any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► yeah come on that's like saying like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► I drink and I become mature like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► you're just a jerk or when you drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► like it's like this has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► inside of you it's true but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► but I would want why I would want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► quote-unquote best one and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► think I would prefer the R plus in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► experience which admittedly admittedly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► have not driven a front-wheel drive car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► and I don't know 15 years or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► like that but I in the past have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► particularly enjoyed driving front-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► drive cars actually that's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► Aran's Mazda was front-wheel drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► although I didn't drive it regularly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► did not like the feeling when I drove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► it just felt like the front wheels were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► doing too much I didn't care for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► the GTI is front-wheel drive now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► that said my understanding of the GTI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► that it actually has like a limited slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► differential up front which is weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► kind of like the Dodge SRT 4 from back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► in the day but anyway all of this is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► ask the question do you think you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► would if you were if I told you you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► to buy a Golf R or a GTI which I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► John you're gonna blow this predicament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► out of the water someway somehow but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► you had to choose between one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► two cars do you think you would enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► Tom entertain the front-wheel-drive GTI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► that has a sunroof or do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► would have to go all-in on the Golf R I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► would keep saying like oh there are is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► the best quote-unquote best but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► clear that you really want a sunroof so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► it's not the best for you yeah like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► amount of time I would imagine you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► enjoy a sunroof was greater than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► amount of time you would enjoy it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► rear-wheel drive or whatever all-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► drive but yes I'm with you in principle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► dad why do you gotta use your logic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► me because you just you're just cruising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► down the road at 1530 miles an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► you're enjoying the sunroof on a sunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► slightly different driving dynamics when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► you're driving hard which is weightless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► you haven't been in the car with me in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► understand your point you should drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► more safely look you're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► people who have Volkswagen things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► they're gonna want to sell you while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► storing things does everybody always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► wants to convince other people to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► what they bought so keep in mind though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► that that is their perspective like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► know I'm telling you first I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► you should buy a BMW because I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► one now yeah then I'm telling you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► buy a Tesla because I bought like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► John's telling you to buy an AK or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► because he bought one you know part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► this is to value their own purchase as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► part of it is because whatever thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► process led us to make the choices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► ourselves it's natural to apply the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► processes to to you the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► though that when you like you're bending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► over backwards trying to get some GTI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► like vehicle to fit what you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► want but it sounds like they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► make one that is what you actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► and that's a totally fine answer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► the answer I think just is they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► make what you want so therefore this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► not the right car family for you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► should look at other things that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► be so in conclusion I need to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► Wrangler one of the two choices ut TIRR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► oh you should get some told it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► question I have a specific point of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► question was seeing if he should value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► all-wheel drive over the sunroof I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► with John I think you would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► enjoy the sunroof more but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► ultimately neat none of these Volkswagen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► small you know hatchback things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► actually what you want so you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► pointless exercise because you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► really be considering any of them unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► what you want completely doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► by anybody but that's not true there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► lots of there's lots of cars that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► not Lots but there are some cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► you would enjoy more that are from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► brands and that maybe you are not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► know considering because you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► you should like in the case of your SUV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► envy but you know where your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► will accept you for whoever you are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► like you know maybe it's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► don't want to pay the price or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► mad at BMW like with the m3 or Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► with the price but like these caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► like the cars you're looking at or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► for you because every choice you have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► that lineup has some kind of severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► downside that you really don't like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► know there's a kilise it's Achilles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► therefore none of them are the right car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► for you and that's okay I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► you should be test driving these cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► though like you always like to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► about them in Hemet just go test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► them just like is you don't cost me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► coincidentally I might have a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► of time outside the house just by myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► tomorrow maybe and I've been debating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► probably won't because I'm gonna want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► come back and save Aaron but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► debating going to Volkswagen dealer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► oh that's right that's why I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► gonna do it because I've looked at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► inventory and it's garbage but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► kicking around the idea of going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► Volkswagen dealer and driving a GTI just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► to try it and if there's any part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► this segment that Marco you leave in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► following I am aware of the kia stinger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► aesthetically aesthetically whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► exactly aesthetically it's I'm aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► this car you keep telling me about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► ugly it's not beautiful but I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► it ticks a lot of the the checkboxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► that I'm interested in except everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► seems to be forgetting that it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► peddle only and if I'm going to go for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► to pedal car I'm going to go all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► and do something like Tesla or really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► make my life miserable and get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► Julia Quadrifoglio or something along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► those lines I'm not gonna get a Kia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► get a to pedal Kia it's not happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► you're giving up so much by going by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► dropping the clutch that you better be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► getting something amazing every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► exactly no truly like I completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► with you I could not have said it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► and that's that's the thing and ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► Car and Driver the kiyose thing are tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► with the BMW 430 I X Drive Grand Sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► grand coupe it's a giant long name it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► was like fastback it's hard I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► about the Kia stinger for a second place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► in a three car race so they were both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► massively behind the winner which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► the Audi a5 so what is the thing is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► far BMW is fallen because I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► routinely win these matchups by a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► margin now it's way behind by not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► you know a couple they have a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► system not as a couple points yeah and W [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► yeah like any any comparison to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► F 30 and Beyond generation of BMW 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► 4 Series has to have the disclaimer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► like yeah but these are way worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► made up you used to be so like yeah kia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► has reached the level of BMW in BMWs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► degraded state or I forget oh man so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► started going to an exercise thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► dip and the trainer used some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► euphemism to describe my physical state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► conditioned state like a battery even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► deaconess you know yeah it's like which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► is hilarious cuz like it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► conditioned which was never the case did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► you show them your mouse and trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► hands these hands mouse track that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► day with these I've worked hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► these look at how precisely I can double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6962">TS</a>]
00:00:00 ◼ ► but eventually the test-riding becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► exactly as much coding as the coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► I know it sounds weird I'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/6">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► convert you I'm just saying like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► the that sounds like it's not math this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► is not the show where we can it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► it's not the show where he commits Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► to drink coffee when when Marko starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/15">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► writing tests I'll start drinking coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► let's make that agreement oh there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► go now you're gonna make him do it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► should start with some follow-up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/26">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► Ravis our rights in in a teepee 258 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► throttle the iPhone by slowing it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► and have it shut down due to poor pirate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► battery performance however I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► that's being said by someone owning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/37">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► relatively new iPhone that's true you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► should use an older model to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/40">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► understand the issue I have an iPhone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► one should not be waiting 10 seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► see an app come up or imagine when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► see something you want to capture in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/48">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► photo or film but it takes ages for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► camera to launch and you've missed your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/51">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► shot the list goes on and on this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/52">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► serious usability issue for people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► older iPhones and and they suffer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► it daily during the whole day now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► is a completely fair point and Ravi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► right that I haven't really experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► this because in well lately because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► always been on the latest and greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► phone that being said I believe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► either my fix for my success and we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► talk about this on the show at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/76">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► point or another I want to say was my 6s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► would occasionally just shut itself down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► and it whether or not it was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► problem because it was a relatively new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► phone at the time and I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► during a generation of phones where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► did have battery problems if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► mistaken and you know what the specifics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► of why it happened don't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► but the fact the matter is I had a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► happening and I remember vividly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► there were at least two or three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/104">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► that I was trying to capture something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► that Declan was doing with the foot with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/108">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► the phone's camera and it decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/109">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► booting a phone even a brand new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► 10 is like 15 20 30 seconds or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► like that that is way worse than waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► five to ten seconds for the camera to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► come up which is also terrible don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► me wrong I am NOT arguing that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► and I can't imagine how tough it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► be to have every app open after 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► seconds unequivocally that is trash but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► I would still take that trash over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► having the phone completely shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► when I'm trying to capture a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► Declan or now Michaela like no question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► I am still convinced that I would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► have throttling than not well the slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► this little app launch could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► every single time whereas the shows not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► only happens once in a while but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► reason I put this thing and follow up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► not to debate whether shutdowns are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► worse than slow performance but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► reiterate again what I think I said on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► past show which is if your phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► doing stuff like really really slow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► this kind of slow like I literally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► exaggerating but if it's literally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► 10 seconds to launch an app and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► noticed a routine regular app like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► it's doing things massively so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► not throttling that is something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► that is the mysterious ailment that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► one has been able to identify that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► sometimes but not always cured by either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► wiping and restoring from map backup or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► wiping and starting as a new phone why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► is that cure it what does it do I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► no idea but the throttling is not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/201">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► going to make it feel slower you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► for sure but it's not going to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► do this tight like even if you cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► the clock speed in a quarter it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► take 10 or 20 seconds to launch an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► right it's not you know it's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► too much right it would take a quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► whatever so phones that have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► massive slowdowns or freezes and stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► don't think those are explicable by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► different the throttling feels like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► whole phone is kind of going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/232">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► molasses but not these huge things all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► encountering one of these problems don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► throttled you may have something much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► much worse than throttling and what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► you do about it the only thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/244">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► heard of some you know like I said wipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► wipe and restore from backup or wipe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► star as a new phone and that may or may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► not fix it which is terrible advice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► don't have anything better I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► people to be aware that every problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► not throttling people people often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► complain about how I bother Apple about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► their software quality and you know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► successful you know they're moving fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► they're competitive they don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► but part of the reason why this battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► thing became such a big deal and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► the reason why so many people jumped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► the on you know sometimes even wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► information about it but but definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► sensationalized the the motivations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► and what was actually happening is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► because apples had problems for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► where I OS has weird bugs is not tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► well enough on old phones weird cruft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► accumulates with with older phones older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► installations like an upgraded sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► you have things like this where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► to like restore your phone and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► might fix it like this is all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► problems that that arise from having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► massive amount of technical debt and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► software quality that never gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► chance to get fixed if Apple had better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► software quality and better testing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► better supporting these old devices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► battery gate thing would have been a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► less severe problem the like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► biggest reasons why it looked the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► did is because there are so many quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► problems with software on old phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► people you know Apple basically handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► explanation for why their phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► this slow that isn't their fault that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► Apple being evil it probably isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► right explanation as John said like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► think most if most people's phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► this slow it's probably not because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► CPU speed has been cut down by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► 50 or 60 percent whatever it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► this seems like a more severe software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► issue but the Apple like for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► they've been ignoring this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► software quality and it bit them really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► hard and there's lots of areas like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► things like security where like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► technical debt can really come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► bite you hard maybe they need to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► reconsider their priorities and and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► much they value and and devote resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► to quality of their software and running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► a little device especially as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► just plowing ahead and giving engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► no time to fix bugs alright Andres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► police rights does anyone other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► tech blocker bloggers give a darn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► smart speakers isn't there a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► market of dumb Bluetooth speakers it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► seems that way Oliver you're upright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► unreasonably huge selection of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► devices blah blah blah I'll get a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/404">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► I doubt I'll ever say a single word to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► it can't blah blah blah blah middle part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► you're skipping over the important parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► I didn't put the whole for the love of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► all that's good and holy okay from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► from the middle part don't normal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► just want a fantastic sounding speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► even if it's not the cutting edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► problems of switching off the mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► kettles I know I want a great speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► that connect seamlessly to my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► devices so I'll get a home pod as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► as I can buy dad will ever say a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► word to it the reason I put this in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► is like so if I had to summarize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/435">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► Bluetooth speaker I bet a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► they're everywhere it's kind of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► becomes sort of the baseline for so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► want a little speaker that's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► your your phone speakers that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► play stuff from your phone or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► right and he's right there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► Bluetooth speakers around so why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► even need all like what's the deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► the home pod if it was just a Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► speaker wouldn't that be fine who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► about things you can talk to except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► as he you know puts it like turning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► your mood lighting her your smart tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► kettles or whatever and he even says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► I'll get one because he wants something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► connected Apple devices by dental or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► assessing a wardrobe i think this falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► into the same category albeit less i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► be much more angry as casey wear and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► think we've talked about these before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► and I want to reiterate to it if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► seems silly that you're talking to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► speaker no speaker who cares about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► talking about that seems silly people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► who say that probably have not tried one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► haven't done it it sounds like a froofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► thing but as a technology required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► make something that works like this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► down and I argue it's pretty low already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► considering you get a little Amazon dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► understanding what you're saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► utility of it will be apparent these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► things are not popular for no reason so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► I would once again urge everybody if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► you've never had a thing like this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► you talked to don't immediately dismiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► the idea of talking to it as something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/517">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► that like is a passing fad or a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► that only you rich lazy people do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► whatever it is a technology that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► utility talking to things is a useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► interface in many situations and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► as time marches on Bluetooth speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► that you can't talk to will become less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► smartphones that were not iPhones became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► less popular because you could do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► the same stuff but once you've spoken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► something to tell you to play music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► having to go to your device and flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► around in an interface and send the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► audio to the Bluetooth thing just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► it doesn't just seem slower it is slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► it is less convene it's a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► of interacting with things so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► once again sigh do not do not just miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► talking to cylinders there they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► to talk to you know I I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► you brought me up earlier I I have mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► feelings about this but I think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► despite having never had an echo or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► I stumbled because I have couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► remember if that was gonna trigger them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► or not despite having never had an echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► in my house I I think to some degree I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► understand the draw it's not something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► understand it the reason I'm so grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► about the home pod is because I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► be able to shout at my home pod hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► know cylinder play such-and-such by such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► and such artists and in the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► can't do that unless I have either that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► subscription is what bums me out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► as I talked about for a very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► previously I would like to use Spotify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► to do that and yes I am aware that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► can do basic controls like you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► cylinder skip to the next track and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► will work even if your air playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► Spotify like I get that but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► point is I want to be able to say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► cylinder play placed on hold by me math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and I want it to just work without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► having to pay Apple for an Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► subscription this was a more general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► this person is more general anger is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► like don't normal people what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► just wanted a speaker even if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► on the cutting edge of solving your late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► like it's not your lazy old men problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► right and mood lighting and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► that it's not that you're lazy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/649">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► saying don't know when people just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► to command line so the solving your lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► problems of oh no you're just pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► the thing on the screen with the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► and click on it like it's just this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► of backwards macho thinking that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► don't need any fancy thing to do that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/664">TS</a>]
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00:11:09 ◼ ► sounds good you don't need to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► things it's like no like people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► tried it and it's it's convenient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► talk to things sometimes not all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► time it's not the best thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► world but it is an interface that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► proven its utility and just because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► you don't find utility in it or you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► never tried so you have no idea what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► would be like doesn't mean it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► have utility and doesn't mean everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► who's talking to their cylinders or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► their phones or their watches or talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► to their cars to tell them to call so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► then I think their hands off the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► too you know call home while they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► those are good user interfaces they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► not reflect badly on the people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► them and people who think that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► should reconsider some brief feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► brief follow-up on my Raspberry Pi music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► player that I discussed last week lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► of people wrote in to suggest that I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► something that uses that reads RFID or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► NFC tags and there's a been a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► projects that do this one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► ones I've seen is called plastic player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► and and there's a few of the projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► that were similar where basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► have a Raspberry Pi with an NFC reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► board and you stick NFC stickers to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/728">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► awesome original NES like it like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► somebody made that used RFID reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► cartridges like he would he made like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► cartridges in throw them into an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► mini NES had like the power and reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► buttons all wired up to actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► correct things and it was but in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► reality it wasn't playing the games off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► of the cartridges it was playing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► cartridges were simply telling it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► to play and that's how all these RFID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► based music players work - some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► play them off a Spotify or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► some of them play them off of internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► storage so I started playing with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► actually I got a NFC board I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► little hesitant at first because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► were there there don't seem to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► kind of like quick little plug-and-play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► boards like the like the sound cards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► can get some that fit the Raspberry Pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► hat specification which is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► just like a board that like sticks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► top of the Raspberry Pi it like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► like a predefined connector on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► the main i/o connector and you just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► of stick it on and it stacks on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/796">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► nicely and it's like plug and play and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/797">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► NFC reading that I could find at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► none that were maintained so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► get like a different board that required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► me to actually acquire it and then later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► on I soldered some stuff and it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► of fun but and I'm terrible at soldering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► this is the first time I've done it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/816">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► years and still terrible at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► slowly getting less terrible anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► now I have one that plays via NFC it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► just using internal storage and the NFC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► cards that I'm sticking like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► reader just play the album and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► really nice it's still a little bit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► progress but I'm really enjoying it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► far I'm kind of I'm really enjoying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► crazy little world of making fun crap as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► as you know procrastination when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► waiting for overcast to get through test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► flight beta review or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/843">TS</a>]
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00:14:10 ◼ ► don't have anything to show for it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/850">TS</a>]
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00:14:15 ◼ ► like take pictures and make a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/855">TS</a>]
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00:14:22 ◼ ► nice case or do something like painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► on the outside you got to involve her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► this project show she'll allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/865">TS</a>]
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00:14:28 ◼ ► the home hi so I actually already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/868">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► prominent place in the home that she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► approved I'm I'm not going to spoil what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/876">TS</a>]
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00:14:43 ◼ ► was manufactured by Apple oh my anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► once it's done I'll take pictures I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► gonna I actually ordered a Raspberry Pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► 0 W which is much smaller than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► full-size Raspberry Pi to help it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► better into this case but we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► how that goes when it arrives you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► have saved your trashcan so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► chuck these little NFC cards into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► chuck them into the hole and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► rattle down to the bottom and it plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► the the song eventually you have to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/906">TS</a>]
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00:15:49 ◼ ► not wasting tons of food all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/949">TS</a>]
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00:15:58 ◼ ► of meat fish and seasonal produce veggie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► is vegetarian recipe - plant-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► proteins grains and seasonal produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► actually like plans like this because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► lets me like normally I'm a meat-eater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► but I like say eating less meat over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/968">TS</a>]
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00:17:03 ◼ ► in the last week or so there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► some rejections of iPhone apps or iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► apps I guess I should say that use emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► as part of the user interface the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► rejections have said something along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► lines of listen that's you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► copyrighted material which really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► true you can't use that in a campion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► screenshots you really got to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► your app let me start by saying that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► am quite confident by the letter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► law Apple is 100% right and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► there's nothing we can really do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► it but it seems short sighted and stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► that apple provides all these beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► emoji and as most of you probably know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► provides all these beautiful emoji and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► then if you use them as part of you user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► interface they stomp on you and say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► now shortly before we went to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► tonight I had seen some rumblings about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► this maybe being walked back so instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► of spending the entire rest of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► episode on it I guess we just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► talked about it and then move along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► hope that it's getting resolved but man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► that just seems dumb like I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► that yes it is their right to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► but it's just dumb I I don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► and it's I like using emoji like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► say that I've done this day at work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► if I was writing my own iOS app I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► absolutely use emoji in my in my user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► interface from time to time because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► just think it's cute and fun but gosh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► don't dig it and I haven't had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► chance to listen to the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► connected which will link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► notes where Jeremy Burch FMOD mojo pedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► is on and I guess that interview is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► probably pretty good because Jeremy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► pretty damn awesome it is you're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► a lot you really really should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► listened to it it's it's really your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► I know I will listen to what six hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► ago already been a little busy but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► the the connected guys of course are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► dear friends of ours and and Jeremy even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► though we've never met he's a dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► friend of mine he just doesn't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► and so I'll talk with him does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► that is superhot and in any case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► point of join it was a giant hot pool it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► well in that case not so hot no anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► you should listen to that and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► certainly one of you guys I guess Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► if you'd like to jump in kind of fill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► the gaps here but I just I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► for it I understand swith in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► right but I don't care for it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► think it's a it's just a poor decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► so Marco since you seem to be more read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► up on this than I anything you can add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► or fill in or kind of clarify for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► mean once again the the the specific day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► inconvenient for the story because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► does seem to be like kind of in progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► and still in motion so this may be out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► of date by the time that I'm able to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► know release this tomorrow morning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► whatever but I think Apple clearly needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► to the final line of what is okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► what is not because certain things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► copyrighted work not that different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► you know it's the San Francisco font is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► Apple's font they own it they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► dictate the terms of use one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► things that you can't do with the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► Francisco font is you can't embed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► San Francisco font on an Android app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► on a website you can you can like call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► for it in your CSS but like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► actually embed the files that would then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► show the San Francisco font to people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► windows or people on Android because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► that's ripping off their copyrighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► stuff and put it on your server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► redistributing it like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► obviously over the line so similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► sometimes really big apps like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► like I'm not too familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► specifics but I think people were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► like whatsapp just copied all that emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► was putting it on all their platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► like on Android and stuff obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► taking apples emoji images and embedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► them in your app on Android is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► over the line and that should be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► know enforced by Apple's Copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► Department that makes total sense so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► obviously there is a line of what is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► far the question is where is that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► being drawn and it seems like that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► still be in flux or the or maybe there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► was some interpretation by a preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► that is still in flux I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► obviously I think anything that involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► you taking the images off the system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► and manipulating the images themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► is probably not right and not cool with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► Apple but I don't think it's right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► Apple to say that like a text label in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► your app can't include characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► this range being rendered by the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► fonts that I think is is too restrictive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► and you know so for me from a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► perspective I think it's easy to define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► that line you're allowed to use emoji in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► your app if it's being rendered as text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► like by the text system being rendered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► as text that makes total sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► because then Apple can change the images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► whenever they want it can only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► render that way on Apple's platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► because you're not embedding the images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► characters so if you if you do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► thing on Android or somewhere else it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► gonna render the Android mojo set which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► is what you should be doing that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► is a very good line to draw it's unclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► whether they are drawing that line or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► that kind of kicked all this off is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► app by Sam Eckert called bit tracker so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► bit tracker has basically emoji all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► the UI like in in text labels there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► like little emoji Thanos how salient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► everything but that looks okay to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► so he this is mostly coming out like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► his Twitter account over the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► days and originally he got rejected then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► he got a phone call from a preview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► in the phone call it's like a perv you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► apparently told him that you cannot use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► emoji anywhere in your app UI except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► like the user being able to enter text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► so like if there's a text field and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► user can type emoji into the text field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► that's okay and if you're doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► with that text like displaying a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► that someone else sent that person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► happens to include emoji that's okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► apparently that you cannot use emoji in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► the UI in other ways but then app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► decided to retroactively Lee go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► approve his app after all and to let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► use the emoji that way but we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► yet received clarification on the policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► so whether the policy is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► and this is a little bit you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► a little bit of skin in this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► because overcast has a couple of small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► uses of emoji in the interface if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► you star an episode a little emoji star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► will show up if you have not downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► it but it's simply being streamed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► little cloud will show up both these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► things appear in the detail label like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► relate the date shows on the episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► and oh and I use the emoji heart it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► you know also in tiny little form in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► text label for becoming a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► subscriber so obviously I have some skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► in this game because if this policy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► super restrictive in the way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► he was told on the phone that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► use emoji at all unless the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► typing it in then everything I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► about overcast would be prohibited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► that would be unfortunate but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► unfortunate reality is that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► know is this is one of those vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► AppStore times where either somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► made a big mistake by telling symetric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► this policy over the phone which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► is unlikely or the policy is shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► which is probably the more likely answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► that that they that they're considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► feedback and maybe that maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► considering they went too far so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► necessary there's a very clear line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► where like if you're pulling the images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► and putting them on other platforms or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► playing with them as images that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► probably not cool but if you are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► calling for emoji as characters in text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► labels in your app being rendered by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► text system in the system I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► they case you know what you said up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► front like they can legally that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► totally within their rights to prohibit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► that I just I don't think they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► the language of emoji has become such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► such a critical part of what's currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► in fashion and app design and and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► people are communicating and what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► expect to see and what they expect to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► able to use that I think restricting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► from being used in in the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► innocent way I was saying earlier of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► like being used like in text labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► restricting that I think would be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► mistake for just kind of the the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► design landscape of iOS apps and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► think I pause to worry about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► dilution of their brand or losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► control of their copyright with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► images as long as it's being rendered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► the text system on their device and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► in other places that actually in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► opinion reinforces their brand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► then all these apps that have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► unique looks that include apples emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► in their text fields can't look the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► way on other platforms and that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► I think reinforces the like design walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► are on Apple make sure that look if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► want your app to look like this cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► have this kind of cool mood it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► on iOS it can't be anywhere else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► III think any any effort to restrict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► apps from using emoji in the UI in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► kind of you know relatively innocent way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► with the text system I think is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► good decision and and is likely to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► not you know not to mention it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► developers so the last point you brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► up about emoji being a differentiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► factor for Apple's platform is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► starting to get that the angle that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► taking on this as a Jeremy pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► in emoji PD Oracle Google has an emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► font too but there is has different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► licensing terms he describes as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► open-source license that allows other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► projects use it within the term set out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► blah blah blah but like but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► different license alright so it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► it but it's easier to use elsewhere so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► recently on six colors talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► slack used to let you pick which emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► you want do you want to see apples emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► do you want to see Google's emoji what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► are the other choices there was a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► all their Twitter hostile emoji emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► once not like it had a bunch of emojis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► clearly like embedded in the app somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► because I think it was like this on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► platforms right even if you were on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Windows or whatever you can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► Apple emoji and then obviously applets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► no no and because they were using you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► know using platforms so Apple must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► gone to them because now you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► that option anymore you get that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► get the Apple ology and Apple platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► but not on Windows or whatever and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► if you're on Windows you can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► Google emoji because Google's license is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► more permissive when it comes to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► Apple should or shouldn't do with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► emoji rights yes there is the angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► that's saying look if you're on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► platforms you get our nice emoji we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► think our mode you're good they make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► platform nicer to use because we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► they're better than other people's emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► interface like marker or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► that's a differentiating factor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► other angle is if Apple decided to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► a much more permissive license for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► emoji what could happen and what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► is already kind of sort of happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► without apples permission is they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► attain visual dominance but like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► could become the face of emoji to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► world like the the what they decide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► representation of each one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► fairly vaguely specified emoji symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► is what they artwork they choose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► their art style and their all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► artistic choices could come to define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► including when they decide to change an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► emoji or make a new emoji or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► like that they could become the de-facto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► leaders of emoji merely by having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► most widely-used set uh and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► Google's is very widely used as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► don't think Google is winning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► battle judged based on like how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► permission rather than using Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► with permission it's like given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► choice between Google lets me use it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► my app or platform so I'm an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► doesn't but I kind of like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► ones better right so that position being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► the sort of visual leader of emoji for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► I'm not sure the value of saying if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► want apples nice emoji come for the owl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► platform is worth the sacrifice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► this happens all the time for me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► when you're communicating with emoji if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► you're just communicating with all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► Apple using friends you're all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► same page about what the emoji looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► like right but if you're communicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► across platforms it's harder to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► what their if they're seeing the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► face with the teary eyes or the whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► like or the the thing that looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► grimace that's supposed to be a grin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► like there can be miscommunication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► because of differences in art style and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► people on Apple platforms experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► that me as an Apple user I wish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► Apple would widely license its emoji to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► whoever the heck wanted it so I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► sure that other people would see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► same things I did because I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► expectation that given the choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► Google's whose goals is weird and ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► or whatever like I don't know if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► entirely true but I would prefer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► world and I think being the de facto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► visual leader emoji has more value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► Apple as a company than retaining its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► fancy stuff to only be on its platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► there's also the issue of like app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► design quality like you know this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► quite the same but honestly it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► that different imagine if we were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► allowed to use the same at the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► Francisco font in our apps that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► had this wonderful system font that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► their apps used but the third part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► Francisco font in their apps period what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► that would mean would be that every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► would have to figure out some fonts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► it could use probably make its own or by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► its own license its own so what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► would do is not only would all apps look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► different like way more than they do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► and sometimes in bad ways but that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► would draw some lines between apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► had money behind them and apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► didn't so much it would make that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► apparent and you would have you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► like a bigger quality a visual quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► difference making quality app design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► less accessible to people and also there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► would be somebody out there like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► know we would all just go use the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► open-source fonts or whatever like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► would be some small collection of free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► or low-cost fonts for developers to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► go get instead and so you would have iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► the design as you were just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► jointly the design would basically be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► dictated by third parties like googled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► permissive font that we could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► instead the emotion situation if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► can't use them in text labels and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► isn't that different because the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► app design is including emoji now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► is happening it's been happening it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► going to happen more emoji is how is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► a is becoming an increasing part of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► people use computers what how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► expect to be able to use apps what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► people how how things should look how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► people expect things to look so a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► apps want or need to use emoji in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► UI and if we can't use Apple's emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► there we're gonna have to go get our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► made which almost no one can afford to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► do this with the biggest companies or go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► you know license some open-source just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► so you go use some open source one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Google's if we I don't even know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► we're allowed to put their license but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► know it's pretty permissive so maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► English case what you said is right John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► in which case then you know app then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► third-party apps on iOS looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► these weird other emoji and then apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► look weird by comparison you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► that's not a good situation to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► which is why I think like for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► reason that we are allowed to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► San Francisco font in our apps on iOS as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► long as we don't like rip out that font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► and bring it to Android for that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► reason we should also be able to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► Apple emoji set in our you eyes as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► as that emoji set does not leave iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► well I wanted to be used on Android too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► because I want the uniformity but as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► using it just in iOS Apple does have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► point which I can imagine being made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► some future to view that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► secession if it hasn't already in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► they're not gonna say this but it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► almost be better if you if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► ripped off the image as a ping and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► it in your app than if you did it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► character because if you do it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► character Apple changes its emoji font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► from time to time and your UI like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► they changed that star to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► totally different and it clashes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► you UI all of sudden because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► yellow anymore and you expected it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► yellow or the cloud that used to look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► certain way it looks a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► way and you know sometimes they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► the the emoji so much that semantically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► doesn't even you know convey the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► it's probably not a good idea to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► little graphic that you don't control as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► part of your user interface unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► you're willing to chase that around but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► of course once you start taking ripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► off the image of it that's even worse in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► terms of Apple getting all uppity about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► it's a copyright and everything so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► if they gave a permissive license and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► just consider these like these are free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► glyphs that you can use in your thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► you want it you know that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► where I would say if you want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► as your user interface you can only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► it on an Apple platform so it not on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► other ones and then that the license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► would say if you want to use it as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► know as text or like if someone types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► text and they want to see like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► slack application on Windows that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► be the case where you say fine you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► use our emoji just don't use them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► your user interface on Windows but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► you can use them for typing on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► anyway I think there's a thing there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► definitely a way for Apple to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► have their cake and eat it too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► don't think the the way that is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► benefit to Apple you're setting aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► developers the most been an apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► keeping it so tight that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► people can use it even on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► platform and I don't even think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► gonna eat it just to confine it to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► because I don't think there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► advantage or I don't think the advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► is worth being that restrictive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► saying come to Apple for our cool emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► because people won't and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► everywhere and then Apple people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► feel weird because they'll send you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► grimacing face and other people will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► something different and not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► what you're saying and that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Apple people feel marginalized rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► than the other way around I just want us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► to be able to use some OG on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► platforms just like Marco said is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► yeah I mean I've been following the drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► but I'm sure I'm assuming that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► there'll be some nuances there because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► think Apple's goal is to make sure emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► and stuff looks nice on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► platform right I don't think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► gonna be so restrictive as the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► they did let the guys that through but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that's just you know that's just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► thinking that the App Store has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2111">TS</a>]
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00:36:46 ◼ ► our show I started using its adieu app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► this past winter I had only one well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► I'll get there okay I had always kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► used reminders the bill Tina rappley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► reminders app very lightly like I'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► it remind me of maybe one thing a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► and you know simple stuff like take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► the garbage you know stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► I very lightly used it and it was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► really never ly a habit for overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► planning I kept a task paper document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► since the beating of overcast and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► and I still find the test paper format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► really nice for like planning a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► release for an indie developer like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► but this past holiday season I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► super busy and like everything in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► life was like half done projects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► things I had to you know worry about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► check in on and and try to complete all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► this crazy stuff and I finally started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► using reminders very heavily and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► really got me into it was Siri capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► but it's pretty good at reminders like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► it's you know it's not perfect but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► it's close enough that it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► useful and I found it to be a very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► way to capture like as I'm out as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► remind me to blah blah blah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► okay the problem with Apple reminders is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► that while the Siri capture on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► pretty much everything else about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► terrible like the the only reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► ever used reminders to enter tasks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► because I'd never had to actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► the reminders app to enter a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► creating a task on the reminders app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► awful like the the UI is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► clunky it's ugly it's hideous it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► has a lot of like weird like iOS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► know pre iOS seven kind of behaviors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► looks and everything it and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► it's especially horrible on the Mac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► it's way worse than the Mac but no does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► an iOS it the Apple reminders on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► is honestly embarrassing and and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► at some point they're going to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► they did with notes where they like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► totally redid the Notes app a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► back and made it awesome maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► coming to reminders I hope it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► reminders but we don't know whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► will happen yet so I started seeking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► third-party apps to to help me finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► do either of you use reminders or to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► apps because of hearing a friend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► constantly I think it was Mike I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► pretty sure it was Mike now I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► second thoughts but anyway somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► my life had talked about the app D you e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► do and because I decided that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► to have occasional periodic reminders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► that were repeating and all I wanted was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► reminders I didn't want to go all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► way into like OmniFocus or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► that I just wanted to have reminders are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► repeated I've started using D you e do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► and if I'm honest I kind of really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► it because it does exactly what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► which is reminders often times but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► always periodic and most importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► that will nag you to death which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► exactly what I need because I'm the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► of person that'll be like oh yeah take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► out the trash yeah sure I'll do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► you know like clear you know clear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► notification whatever you can't clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► the notification until you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► mistake you can never clear never I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► unless it's complete I know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► saying it's not a KC problem but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► myself one has to know oneself and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► know myself and myself is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► person oh yeah sure I'll get that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► and so I have been using do for I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► to say three to six months and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► I'm also because it was the one that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► serious support for so long when no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► other ones did right so remind me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► whatever like that's one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► times I use Siri to do that occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► I will type them in and you can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► type like remind me to you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► whatever at 7:00 p.m. tomorrow and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► will save you from having to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► UI that lets you pick dates and times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► which is not fun to use but that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► just never use any third-party apps I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► use it very rarely it's usually like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► like Marco said usually for capture like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► I'm in a situation where however I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► normally make sure I remembered you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► is not available I can't put it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► calendar or that would be too cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► but my phone is there so you just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► it up baba remind me to do the bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► blah right you know remind me to go pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► up my daughter and in 15 minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► remind me to I'm you know I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► Ferb's you know ro I mean just throw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► sauce in ten minutes or whatever that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► why I get annoyed that it won't do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► repeating reminder for 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► because I don't know why because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► won't but but yeah not very frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► but when I do use it it's Syria and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► on my phone and it's plain old reminders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► quick addendum I should mention that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► shopping lists and only shopping lists I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► also use the app any list which I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► it's really really great at doing shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► shopping lists before everyone writes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► email yes I am aware that reminders can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► do shared reminders lists I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► aware that that's a thing I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► for it I much prefer any list for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► reasons that are not interesting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► right now but anyway I use any list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► I don't remember if I stumbled upon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► myself or if that's because Jason Snell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► who is also in any list person had told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► me about it it could have been either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► but one way or another if you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► kind of person that wants to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► that's shared between you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► partner which is me I'd wouldn't I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► sorry your partner isn't me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► point I'm driving at is that if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► to have a shared shopping list I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► recommend any list enough the notes will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► do that now to the fancy version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► notes has that's true that's true can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► you can make a shared note and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► put those little radio buttons on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► not as nice as any list but you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► you're if you're it's a good way to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► out like you see if this is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► you'll want to use and you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► bother downloading another I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► tried and notes and if it seems nice get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► a better app like any list yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► keep mean to try any list because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► your recommendations Casey mostly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► think it's like I've heard you mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► her a few times and yeah because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► like to like right now I just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► shopping list and the way we share it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► TIFF tells me hey add this to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► oh that's barbaric that's far better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► that's a good system that I bet she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► likes oh I have a worse problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► I've I've been trying to get my wife to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► use any kind of shared grocery list I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► bought and subscribe to any list I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► tried using notes I've tried using other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► third-party apps whose names I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► forgotten it's just go down my purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► and just the problem is she she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► wants to use paper she just wants to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► paper it's like in her purse or in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► whiteboard that's on the fridge and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► three pieces of paper in the whiteboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► electronically shared and if I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► on the like oh I didn't see it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► whiteboard I had a separate list I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► down on this piece of paper so I'm stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► outside the digital realm there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► just like I bet TIFF enjoys the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► where she just yells things to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► it's like paper doesn't work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► because so right now I use the app clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and I know I've heard they're they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► like a new beta going on that's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► to be a lot better but I'm not on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► beta I'm just using the old one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► like not even updated for the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► and everything but what I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► clear is that it's very simple and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► lets me manually reorder things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► easily you could drag the road it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► because what I do with my shopping lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► the reason I don't use paper is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► I'll enter things you know however they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► come to me but then before I go shot I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► the shopper and before I go shopping I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► reorder them to be in the order that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► know they're in the store because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► I know the stores really well like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► so like I know where things are and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► all the Rings I'm like okay I'll be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► you know walking to the produce first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► all the pretty stuff on top and I and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► as I'm going through the store I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► Marco why do you do this to yourself any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► list will do this for you doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► my stores well no it doesn't know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► stores but if you enter I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► like banana it will be smart enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► put that in the produce section so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► also a single list will be section 2 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► in it defaults to groceries but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► set up you know other things but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► enter banana it is smart enough to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► that in the produce section if you enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► milk it's smart enough to put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► the dairy section you are begging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► definitely give it a shot anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► going back to my to-do item look I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► been trying to talk about for like - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► alright so what I what I really came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► want like I wanted basically something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► that was fairly simple like reminders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► that had great Siri integration I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► basically wanted like reminders Pro like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► what reminders would be if Apple did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► from scratch today and actually put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► resources on it instead of just whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► the heck is working on it and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► works is probably nobody what I want is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► reminders Pro basically I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► practice getting things done or any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► of GTD like system I know I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► kind of person I respect people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► that that's that's great for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► basically a flat simple like single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► screen home view of what's going on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► I complete that I'm I want to disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► I don't want to see future items at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► until their date comes up you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► have the concept of like separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► projects or lists but I only need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► one level of that I don't need things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► like contacts and tags to also be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► like I really just need like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► simple hierarchy very simple like flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► structure and I really dislike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► concept that most these other apps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► where they have an inbox between capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► and when it's in like it's home I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► want that extra step I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► have to review my inbox I want I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► just say in my Siri command when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► recording the to-do item I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► where it goes right then and not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► anything in the inbox if I don't specify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► a project I want like a default list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► that just all the - I just arrived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► this is this is basically have reminders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► works just reminders is terrible in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► other ways and I've want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► better so the Mac is my primary platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► for viewing editing and completing tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► so it must have a good Mac app my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► primary capture platform is Siri on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► phone so it must have an iOS app with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► Siri integration it should be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► handle recurring tasks pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► because I have a lot of those and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► whatever app I use to be an active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► development on all three major Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► platforms Mac iPhone and iPad so some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► nice to haves I would like maybe to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► shared list or shared projects I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► might someday want a web service for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► some kind of API integration but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► haven't in practice actually needed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► for anything yet so maybe I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► actually need that after all and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► kind of a nice to have like the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► should be pretty because I'm an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► person damn it and I like things to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► pretty like I'm like an attractive app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► that is you know simple and has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► stuff okay so Apple reminders was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► doing it for me in many ways I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► you know I like the integration Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► reminders is the only one that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► with Siri on the Mac because there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► third-party apps no matter how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► their Mac apps are they cannot take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► take it to do item from Siri on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► that's annoying but that's an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► problem really that's that's not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► at the apps fault you know the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► reminders app will always get system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► integration abilities and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► that first before those are third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► way to do it if it doesn't arrive at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► same time so there's a big advantage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► Apple reminders they're just keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► everything but again it's just it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► a clunky app I really didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► I tried to do it to do it has tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► features it's very much web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► collaboration features shared projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► shared list API integration stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► that they have apps on every platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► but the two duyst Mac app is horrendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► it is basically a very poorly wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► web app like like slack it makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► look native-like it's real I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► believe that oh it's bad it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► interaction with the todoist Mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► feels just wrong and limited and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► works the way you think honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► it's kind of embarrassing if if iOS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► your primary platform like I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► like why Federico likes to do us because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► iOS it's a primary platform and he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► collaboration feature with some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► employees and stuff so that makes total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► sense but for me as somebody who works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► alone on a Mac I cannot recommend it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► us at all it's it's rough I also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► couldn't get over like hearing hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► the way that people like Federico and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► Mike talk about todoist one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► problems is that Siri doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► recognize the the pronunciation todoist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► you have to pronounce it wrong like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► diced or other or like I couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► over that like I I know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► kind of a stupid reason to not pick an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► app but like even if everything else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► great about it the fact that every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► I added a reminder I have to tell my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► phone to add something seduced I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► know if I couldn't get past so I also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► tried OmniFocus this OmniFocus seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► be kind of like the the good default for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► if you want a powerful task management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► system you should probably just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► OmniFocus the omni group makes amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► software that they have an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► long-standing reputation for very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► quality Mac and iOS software and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► OmniFocus has been around for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► time it's a very mature of tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► guides on how to use it and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► it has first-class Siri integration it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► frequently updated very well supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► very powerful very customizable but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► ultimately very complex it's far too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► complex for me maybe someday I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► graduate to OmniFocus but I'm not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► for that right now and I might never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► you know it has a lot of roots in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► getting things done and and the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► people who practice that kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► more structured system than what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► looking for maybe it would be possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► to heavily customize it to be what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► want but I honestly don't have the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► or will to do that and again maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► someday I will but for now OmniFocus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► just way too complex for me so then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► tried things things has frankly the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► Mac app I've seen like not among all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► to do it's a really good mac app I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► the mac app is actually better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► their iOS apps again first-class Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► integration one thing I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► things is that it's one syllable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► it's a regular word that C R you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► always recognize properly and it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► doesn't sound too nerdy if I'm saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► when other people are around like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► have to say it's a joist to Siri that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► how many focus sounds okay but a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► nerdy things you breeze right right by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► you don't even hear it right on this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► this topic of the names of the app by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► the way this is another place where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► feel like I've been waiting too long for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► advancement this I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► circuit works the way it does with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► name of the app as part of the sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► then you say it but that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► people want to talk to their phones even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► if it's a nice one syllable normal word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► that's not how people want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► things right if someone decides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► they're gonna use things as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► reminder app this should be away in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► to tell it when I say remind me to blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► blah blah I mean to do it in things cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► I use things like it's not I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► it's asking for the moon and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► the experience so much better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► your interface is talking and once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► particular syntax I'm playing a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► adventure game with my phone I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► want to do that I want to speak I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► to speak in a natural way that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► the beautiful things that I love about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► lot of the cylinders and like my Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► home right for my Google home I just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► things however the hell it occurs to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► to say it and it amazes me that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► figures out what I meant in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► narrow problem domain like remind me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► or do like there's already a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► ways to say set a reminder of all blah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► shouldn't have to insert the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► app I want to use especially if it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► same app every time that would avoid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► Taos and it would just make it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► this gets back to the you know default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► apps things over anyway that's I if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► Apple's looking for something for iOS 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► not iOS 12 make that experience better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► because we do like talking to our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► we don't like say to doused or things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► whatever yeah and and and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► actually they actually midoriko brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► this up on connected this week the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► episode that you all should have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► been listening to for the Jeremy Birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► emoji interview anyway that was also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► this episode and Federico mentioned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► like you know people have for years we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► wanted Apple to have default apps choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► for things like the browser in the mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► client and I understand why they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► you know there that's been argued to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► death but this does seem like an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► where that's very easy to say yes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► like sirikit has a limited number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► intense there doesn't seem to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► downside to enabling like a default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► option for something for somebody to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► like okay things is my reminders app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► like always put reminders and things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► know the X or Y is my Notes app like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► that like that should be that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► supported there should be a system-wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► preference to just default that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► if Apple you know really wants to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► Syria awesome I hope they consider that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► but anyway so go just finishing up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► things there's no shared functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► like know kind of like shared groups or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► lists or projects not like that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► no API or public web service but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► did recently had an email in feature so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► you can kind of simulate parts of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► can like get like the add this two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► things working by basically using email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► as a gateway one of the annoying things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► about things his head I can't figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► how to make a new task from Siri go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► directly to no project anytime you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► sit you can say like remind me today to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► do this thing and things and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► gets no project I think but it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► today I can't figure out how to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► go no project if you say any time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► goes to the inbox I don't want it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► don't want anything to ever go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► inbox ever on the Mac you can configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► it to basically skip that with quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► entry but you can't do that with Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► kit on iOS yet and it annoys me but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► the most part I have found things pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► good there's a couple of other small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► repeating UI is really weird like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► you get it set up it's fine but creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► recurring events is very unintuitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► like I mentioned earlier that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► want things that are in the future to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► show up until it's their time to show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► then is only done on the granularity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the day level so you can't say don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► show up until Wednesday at 9:00 p.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► that I have to put out the cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► recycling all day today I've had put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► cut the cardboard recycling on my to-do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► list even though I really shouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► a reminder to alert you of that at 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► p.m. but it's gonna show up on your list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► all day I don't love that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► finally the weather it is an active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► development or not it's kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► question mark with things because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► developer of a culture code went for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► very long span between previous versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► and it seemed that many times as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► the app was abandoned and it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► it wasn't but there were there were such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► long delays that it's a little hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► abandoned again or go for long spans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► without updates again and so finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► after trying all these apps I finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► understand why so many of our podcaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► friends are always talking about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► frustrations with their to-do apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► why there are we switching between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► and saying oh now I'm switching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► because this thing I know we've me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► this other app I finally get it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► it's such it's it's a hard problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► this is a very personal app you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► internal mental systems in an app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► that's really hard to do in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► pleases many people no at none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► apps are perfect for almost anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► everyone is kind of 70% satisfied with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► any given one at most one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► thought of though is that there's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► nothing saying that you have to only use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► one to-do app for everything like case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► you mentioned earlier that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► use any list for groceries and you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► do for some other stuff like mmm it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► is totally a solution like if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► like the way things does recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► reminders like I could just have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► other app remind me to take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► trash like I don't need things to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► app that does all that stuff there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► nothing saying that you only have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► one app for everything you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► different to do apps for different needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► depending on what they're good at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► grocery store shopping list does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► need to necessarily be in the same app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► as like your next version of your iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► app what you're doing for it it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► nice if one app could do multiple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► like that in a way that didn't step on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► each other but doesn't have to be I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► settled on things for the time being and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► I think I'm gonna be here for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► because the Mac app is just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and so I like things a lot it does fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► what I want in some ways there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► things about that that are just friction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► to me but for the most part it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► the closest I found to good for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► I'm also probably gonna check out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► list for grocery stuff and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► curious to know whatever the heck clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► is working on for their next version for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► you know other like really casual stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like groceries but ultimately I'm now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► using it to do app and it's things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► definitely the nicest for me once I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► of got a feel for it it just felt really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► right for for the way I like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► things and the way I like things to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► look and work and behave and yeah there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► is some friction but ultimately I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► what are you use for your calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► calendar and so how do you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► whether something goes on your calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► or in one of those to-do app things oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► that's that's easy a to-do app is a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► of things I need to get done a calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► is a list of like time slots that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► booked so like you know it and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► great apologies to people like Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► who have talked about this at great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► length forever but like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► calendar entry is like a thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► have to do at that time so like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► have to have a meeting with somebody or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► recording a podcast like that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► happen at a certain time that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► to-do entry that's a do entry as things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► like you know follow-up about this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► I had this email about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► stuff it's or like you know check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► the trash you know sometime today or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► stuff like that that exactly wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► be told to take out the trash precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► at 9:00 yes but I don't have to do it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► 9:00 I have to do it sometime between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► 9:00 and tomorrow morning so where would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► you put the fact that a plumber is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► coming that's a calendar entry because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► that is how that is like a thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► happening at a certain time it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► to-do item it's it's an event like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► that's that's a very different you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► semantics thing I think that the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► fuzzier than you're making it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► because anything I feel like has a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► and a time associated with it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► potential candidate for our calendar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► it's also a potential candidate for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSpFx40/3596">TS</a>]