The Accidental Tech Podcast

01:00:00 ◼   ► we this and almost nothing else image [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► capture says oh I can't do that because [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► of air 9 negative nine thousand nine [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► hundred seventeen and I was like wolf [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► crap at this point I'm basically using [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► Windows already that's a useful error [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► message negative nine nine thousand [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► seven system is negative number errors [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► right it's probably an OS status that's [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► that's uh that's that's deep Mac flavor [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► negative number and in a dialog error [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► dialog all I'm saying is it was a [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► completely non actionable error and I [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► could not find anything useful on the [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► internet about what to do about it and I [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► don't know if the issue was that [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► something on my iPhone is corrupted and [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► the issue is iOS software is kind of [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► broken or at least for me anyway I don't [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► know if it was something that was wrong [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► with my Mac I tried two different Mac's [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► had different but similar problems [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► across both it's just things like what [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► roommates I can tell you what the [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► problem was you were doing something [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► that Apple does not give that they could [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► not possibly give less efficient about [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► you were connecting an iPad or you can [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► se an iPhone to your Mac with a cable [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► and then you were launching an old [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► program from the Mac OS utilities folder [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► to try to take data off of your iPhone [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► over a wire Apple could not give less [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► efficient about that so it's never [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► tested and I think you're probably right [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► and that's just really too bad right and [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► maybe the problem is this gets me maybe [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► the problem is Kaycee again and that [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► maybe I just need to accept iCloud photo [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► library but for reasons that are not [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► interesting and that I don't care to [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► explain I'm not all in on iCloud photo [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► library and because it in the past it [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► was always fine because I would just I [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► would have to remember to pull things [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► off my phone but no big deal that it [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► worked every time a hundred percent of [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► the time it worked every time [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► now sixty percent of the time it works [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► every time that's also a reference John [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► so anyway though it's just it I found [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► myself and I think I made the same [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► speech again like six months ago I found [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► myself just more and more annoyed that [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► things that used to reliably work don't [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► work anymore [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► and it was such whiplash because in the [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► in in the same you know day or two [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► window I've just head over heels fallen [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► in love with this with this MacBook [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► adorable and thoughts myself you know [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► what even though I'm not the kind of [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► person to buy computers hourly like [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► Marco I I will probably get a new [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► adorable whenever it's refreshed because [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► I want more of this adorable [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► I want more speed I want more ports and [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► if they don't give me more ports that's [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► fine but if they give me more speed [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► that's great the adorable fans have to [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► buy every one because each one is barely [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► usable so any improvements like oh my [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► god please it's not that bad I [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► understand your point I understand your [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► point so I go from like just being [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► overjoyed by this adorable and generally [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► speaking I'm pretty overjoyed with my [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► iPhone 10 and then I just see these [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► software issues that are just depressing [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► and in disheartening it's pressing may [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► not be the right word but just just just [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► heartening and it makes me just feel [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► like it's like that throw your hands in [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► the air like and don't wave them like [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► you don't care cuz you do care you just [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► throw your hands in the air and then [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► plop them down on the desk you just like [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► well now what now what do I do cuz I'm [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► just screwed I mean where am I gonna go [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► and it's a rhetorical question and I [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► don't think we need to answer it but [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► it's just frustrating because it used to [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► be this was my happy place and maybe [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► maybe the problem is that said I'm [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► clinging to the Mac and the Mac is dead [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► again we don't need to go there we spent [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► so much time there it's not even worth [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► it plus I don't want to give Federico [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► and Mike the the pleasure but one way or [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► another it's I don't know where the [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► issue is if it's me if it's the Mac if [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► it's Apple if it's software it's [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► hardware it is in this case like you're [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► just sending your photos workflow is a [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► little bit old right and so I'm not like [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► Marco said you are exercising code paths [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► that are not popular anymore with most [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► other people so they're gonna be [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► abandoned not tested as much so you're [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► keeping your habits hey I use image [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► capture this is how I do my photos is [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► just the way I like to do it and time [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► marches on and everyone else has [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► different photo workflows they do not [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► exercise this code path at all it's kind [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► of like if you you know I I manually [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► arrange my music I don't want to use [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► iTunes so I manually arrange it and I [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► play the stuff manually from the finder [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► where it's like you can keep doing that [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► for a long time but once everyone starts [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► using iTunes it's hard to swim against [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► that tide no like [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► now they sell music and I'm forced to [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► use iTunes is the only way I can buy [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► music because I can play the Fairplay [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► beer and both like how long can you keep [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► doing it [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► the one old way that you did it you keep [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► doing it the one all the way forever [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► if you never update anything else about [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► your computing life right and but you [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► know it's it's hard to hold on to that [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► so it's like you know you're using [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► third-party software that fewer and [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► fewer people are using for the tasks [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► you're using it for [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► and you're asking more and more of it [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► because you're taking more bigger more [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► complicated pictures in different [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► formats alright so this it's not you [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► know I'm not saying you're doing [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► anything particularly wrong but it's [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► it's explicable right and I think [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► there's it's inevitable in situations [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► where you're like that we don't have [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► computer habits that are like that we're [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► like I'm just gonna keep doing it this [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► way until I can't do it anymore I think [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► you may be approaching the until you [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► can't do it anymore [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► think because unless you're gonna write [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► the Mac app yourself to handle this [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► which you were just entertaining the [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► idea of doing probably there's not a big [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► market for other people to write Mac [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► applications to support these kind of [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► workflows so as I think we have all done [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► at various points there comes a time [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► where you say I will give in and try [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► whatever everyone else is doing try the [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► you know iCloud photo library try Google [TS]

01:05:36 ◼   ► photos try get back on the code path [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► that is being actively developed that [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► has lots of people using and that if it [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► breaks spectacularly at least you'll be [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► suffering along with millions of other [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► people who will cause the thing to be [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► fixed whereas here you are just [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► screaming to the void about a very high [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► number negative error code from from [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► image capture and by the way I put a [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► link in in our notes for the good old [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► days of negative numbers and error [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► messages from the Mac when most of them [TS]

01:06:03 ◼   ► were singular double digits before we [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► got into negative nine thousand four [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► hundred and seventy-eight we had good [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► old negative 27 and it was like a good [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► friend and then you'd have to turn your [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► computer off and back on again no memory [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► protection so I agree with everything [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► you said but with one small correction I [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► the the pieces of this workflow that are [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► falling down right now that that I was [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► complaining or that I'm without I was [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► complaining about a moment ago that was [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► all first party you had said third party [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► maybe that was accidental but this is [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► image capture which is first party using [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► then it was like Marco said it's [TS]

01:06:33 ◼   ► something you dig in something that I've [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► liked is that in utilities folder but [TS]

01:06:35 ◼   ► anyway yes it is first party there's [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► lots of applications [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► that come with the Mac that haven't been [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► touched in forever or end that if they [TS]

01:06:41 ◼   ► stop working who's gonna notice like [TS]

01:06:43 ◼   ► when's the last time you launch the [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► chest application as I still work are [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► there bugs in the chest application I [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► don't know also like the conditions that [TS]

01:06:49 ◼   ► it's like this is operating in are [TS]

01:06:50 ◼   ► changing like now that iCloud photo [TS]

01:06:52 ◼   ► library is on phones and that photo [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► management is kind of automatic and [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► managed you know on on the device the [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► interface to interface capture like [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► exposing the DCIM folder and exposing [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► photos like like you know through a [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► virtual file system on the phone that [TS]

01:07:07 ◼   ► the computer can just copy off of like I [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► think that's all simulated at this point [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► or something [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► it's it's different it's all weird now [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► because iCloud photo library messes with [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► what photos are actually on the phone [TS]

01:07:17 ◼   ► and what control you have over that and [TS]

01:07:19 ◼   ► like if things try to access them weird [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► things might happen so like it's [TS]

01:07:22 ◼   ► probably running into something is [TS]

01:07:24 ◼   ► different now with that versus with [TS]

01:07:27 ◼   ► maybe the you know the HCI C and he you [TS]

01:07:30 ◼   ► know change over and not to mention the [TS]

01:07:33 ◼   ► High Sierra appears that nothing has [TS]

01:07:35 ◼   ► been tested at all in the entire OS ever [TS]

01:07:37 ◼   ► so like you know it's the combination of [TS]

01:07:40 ◼   ► all these things like you have one of [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► those one of those things is going to [TS]

01:07:42 ◼   ► make your incredibly low priority use [TS]

01:07:45 ◼   ► case not work but this is like you know [TS]

01:07:48 ◼   ► this is not an excuse this is probably [TS]

01:07:49 ◼   ► just the reason ultimately this is like [TS]

01:07:52 ◼   ► I I totally share I think your your [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► disappointment here it's like clearly [TS]

01:07:58 ◼   ► you know both the hardware and the [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► software on the Mac we're really being [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► elected for a few few bad years there it [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► seems like they have righted or are [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► riding the ship on the hardware side but [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► the software side I don't see any sign [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► of that and that's so like we're just [TS]

01:08:16 ◼   ► gonna keep having more and more [TS]

01:08:19 ◼   ► embarrassing disheartening OS releases [TS]

01:08:21 ◼   ► where it seems like more gets broken [TS]

01:08:24 ◼   ► then gets fixed that's my concern and I [TS]

01:08:27 ◼   ► hope that doesn't come past but so far [TS]

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01:08:44 ◼   ► Squarespace sites are so incredibly easy [TS]

01:08:47 ◼   ► to make there's pretty much no reason if [TS]

01:08:50 ◼   ► you need to make a new website somewhere [TS]

01:08:52 ◼   ► there's pretty much no reason to make it [TS]

01:08:53 ◼   ► anywhere else try to make it a square [TS]

01:08:55 ◼   ► space first see how far you get I bet [TS]

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01:09:03 ◼   ► almost no effort and with almost no [TS]

01:09:04 ◼   ► maintenance overtime this to me is like [TS]

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01:09:08 ◼   ► were starting a new blog or podcast or [TS]

01:09:11 ◼   ► video or business or gallery or whatever [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► that somebody needs a website you can do [TS]

01:09:16 ◼   ► it other means you and and if you listen [TS]

01:09:18 ◼   ► to this show you probably know how to [TS]

01:09:19 ◼   ► make websites and other means but how [TS]

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01:09:27 ◼   ► maintenance and with Squarespace you [TS]

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01:09:34 ◼   ► required and then you're done you can [TS]

01:09:37 ◼   ► customize it to your heart's content you [TS]

01:09:39 ◼   ► can and then you're just working on your [TS]

01:09:40 ◼   ► business or you're working on your [TS]

01:09:41 ◼   ► podcast or you're adding things to your [TS]

01:09:43 ◼   ► gallery it's that easy you don't have to [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► worry about all the technical stuff you [TS]

01:09:46 ◼   ► don't have to worry about upgrading your [TS]

01:09:47 ◼   ► CMS or patching it for security holes or [TS]

01:09:50 ◼   ► rebooting your servers it's pretty great [TS]

01:09:52 ◼   ► honestly it's pretty freeing whether [TS]

01:09:53 ◼   ► you're making a site for yourself or [TS]

01:09:55 ◼   ► that someone else has asked you may be [TS]

01:09:56 ◼   ► the nerd in their life to make a site [TS]

01:09:58 ◼   ► for them get yourself out of the [TS]

01:10:00 ◼   ► business of hosting websites let [TS]

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01:10:23 ◼   ► something happy for us to talk about [TS]

01:10:24 ◼   ► well hmmm [TS]

01:10:26 ◼   ► there actually is let me yeah I was I [TS]

01:10:30 ◼   ► was saving this but do you want to do [TS]

01:10:32 ◼   ► ask ATP that's always that pretty happy [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► yes let's do a CTP and then I have an [TS]

01:10:36 ◼   ► after-show gift for you Casey to [TS]

01:10:38 ◼   ► celebrate your new baby another baby no [TS]

01:10:41 ◼   ► it's it's it's literally it is a gift [TS]

01:10:43 ◼   ► for Casey you'll see all right let's do [TS]

01:10:45 ◼   ► a skating right if we're talking about [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► the Mac Pro I'm hanging up we're not [TS]

01:10:48 ◼   ► that's first of all part one of the gift [TS]

01:10:50 ◼   ► is we're not talking with the Mac Pro [TS]

01:10:51 ◼   ► all right fair enough all right starting [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► with the ask a teepee Eric Berlin writes [TS]

01:10:56 ◼   ► do you expect the release of the iMac [TS]

01:10:58 ◼   ► Pro will slow the update cadence of the [TS]

01:11:00 ◼   ► non Pro iMac for example would Apple [TS]

01:11:03 ◼   ► hold back a 6 core coffee like iMac [TS]

01:11:05 ◼   ► config [TS]

01:11:06 ◼   ► in 2018 because it would outperform the [TS]

01:11:08 ◼   ► eight core Zeon W configuration in the [TS]

01:11:11 ◼   ► current Mac Pro it's an interesting [TS]

01:11:13 ◼   ► question I would think that it would not [TS]

01:11:18 ◼   ► slow things down because they're they're [TS]

01:11:20 ◼   ► serving different purposes and me okay [TS]

01:11:22 ◼   ► maybe single core is way better on the [TS]

01:11:25 ◼   ► non pro iMac but presumably multi-core [TS]

01:11:27 ◼   ► will always be way way way way way [TS]

01:11:29 ◼   ► better on the iMac Pro so I don't think [TS]

01:11:33 ◼   ► this would be the case but I am not [TS]

01:11:34 ◼   ► terribly confident in my guess here [TS]

01:11:36 ◼   ► Marco terribly confident I [TS]

01:11:40 ◼   ► yeah to me it's no question the iMac Pro [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► was like they're not going to hold back [TS]

01:11:46 ◼   ► new releases of the regular iMac that [TS]

01:11:49 ◼   ► outpace or come close to the iMac pros [TS]

01:11:53 ◼   ► performance in certain ways due to the [TS]

01:11:55 ◼   ► progress of the consumer CPUs versus the [TS]

01:11:57 ◼   ► progress of the Zeon's I know that I [TS]

01:11:59 ◼   ► really have them yeah I know this [TS]

01:12:00 ◼   ► because not only is the current iMac [TS]

01:12:03 ◼   ► faster in single core but most of the [TS]

01:12:05 ◼   ► microcut it will always be almost yeah [TS]

01:12:08 ◼   ► but also there I did it once the 2013 [TS]

01:12:11 ◼   ► Mac Pro cylinder that came out was [TS]

01:12:13 ◼   ► bested seven months later or eight [TS]

01:12:16 ◼   ► months later when the iMac 5k came out [TS]

01:12:18 ◼   ► and those processors were faster than in [TS]

01:12:20 ◼   ► single core so they've already done this [TS]

01:12:23 ◼   ► in the past it is currently the case [TS]

01:12:25 ◼   ► they don't let that control them at all [TS]

01:12:28 ◼   ► Apple is confident enough and neglectful [TS]

01:12:31 ◼   ► enough of the Mac Pro but they it's a [TS]

01:12:34 ◼   ► combination of like you know they know [TS]

01:12:36 ◼   ► that like I'm Mac Pro buyers are not [TS]

01:12:38 ◼   ► going to not buy the iMac fro in [TS]

01:12:41 ◼   ► meaningful numbers because the newest [TS]

01:12:43 ◼   ► iMac is now slightly faster in single [TS]

01:12:46 ◼   ► threaded tasks that's that's not a major [TS]

01:12:49 ◼   ► factor for most Pro buyers also I don't [TS]

01:12:52 ◼   ► think Apple would care and also they you [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► know that they're not they would never [TS]

01:12:58 ◼   ► hold back the release plans of consumer [TS]

01:13:04 ◼   ► lines in order to favor a Mac Pro lie he [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► told care about the Mac Pro to do that [TS]

01:13:09 ◼   ► but it's at the time yeah and if they [TS]

01:13:11 ◼   ► had to wait on Xeon timelines they would [TS]

01:13:12 ◼   ► never update anything it would be [TS]

01:13:14 ◼   ► ridiculous like part of this is Intel [TS]

01:13:15 ◼   ► but like but but honestly it's like it [TS]

01:13:18 ◼   ► the single core differences like it's [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► good for bragging right in benchmarks [TS]

01:13:22 ◼   ► you're a few percentage faster but the [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► multi-core difference when you have 18 [TS]

01:13:27 ◼   ► cores for a good parallel thing is [TS]

01:13:28 ◼   ► you're you know you're many times faster [TS]

01:13:31 ◼   ► so it's the difference of like minor [TS]

01:13:32 ◼   ► percentages and bragging rights versus a [TS]

01:13:36 ◼   ► fundamental change in your workflow of [TS]

01:13:39 ◼   ► like if I can do this three times faster [TS]

01:13:41 ◼   ► that's why you buy a pro Mac if you know [TS]

01:13:44 ◼   ► and if you want fastest single core [TS]

01:13:45 ◼   ► performance Apple sells you one of those [TS]

01:13:47 ◼   ► like if that's what you want like for [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► you know you have some tasks that is you [TS]

01:13:50 ◼   ► can't make multi-threaded and you want [TS]

01:13:52 ◼   ► the absolute fastest machine you can do [TS]

01:13:53 ◼   ► it [TS]

01:13:53 ◼   ► Apple will sell you one but it's gonna [TS]

01:13:56 ◼   ► make a change in your life that is in [TS]

01:13:58 ◼   ► like single or double digit percentages [TS]

01:14:00 ◼   ► it's not going to be like 500 percent [TS]

01:14:02 ◼   ► faster like it might be if you go from a [TS]

01:14:04 ◼   ► you know a low core count on a low-end [TS]

01:14:08 ◼   ► iMac to 18 cores on the top-end [TS]

01:14:11 ◼   ► iMac Pro so I honestly I don't think I [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► don't think they really compete with [TS]

01:14:14 ◼   ► each other now it could be argued that [TS]

01:14:16 ◼   ► you know for the people who just want [TS]

01:14:17 ◼   ► everything all the time which you know [TS]

01:14:19 ◼   ► we've been so conditioned to expects a [TS]

01:14:21 ◼   ► little but I ask you this but yeah you [TS]

01:14:22 ◼   ► can take one of those Intel CPUs that [TS]

01:14:28 ◼   ► has the fastest single core performance [TS]

01:14:29 ◼   ► and wedge it into an iMac Pro if they [TS]

01:14:32 ◼   ► make one of those that supports ECC Ram [TS]

01:14:33 ◼   ► like the eye nine or whatever or [TS]

01:14:35 ◼   ► something like that like you could say [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► why why won't Apple sell me an iMac Pro [TS]

01:14:39 ◼   ► with a low core count that is just as [TS]

01:14:42 ◼   ► fast as the iMac 5k yeah you know like I [TS]

01:14:46 ◼   ► don't think again I don't think there's [TS]

01:14:47 ◼   ► a demand for that like if you want that [TS]

01:14:48 ◼   ► buy 5k iMac because you know it's not [TS]

01:14:54 ◼   ► it's not appreciably different right [TS]

01:14:55 ◼   ► you're not getting the big multi-core [TS]

01:14:56 ◼   ► performance the reason it's so fast in [TS]

01:14:59 ◼   ► single core is because well it's that [TS]

01:15:01 ◼   ► it's not busy online so it's revved more [TS]

01:15:02 ◼   ► and because you can go faster where you [TS]

01:15:04 ◼   ► don't have so many damn cores shoved [TS]

01:15:05 ◼   ► inside there so it's a long way of [TS]

01:15:09 ◼   ► answering Eric's question to say they [TS]

01:15:11 ◼   ► won't hold it back don't worry okay they [TS]

01:15:13 ◼   ► might not ship new iMacs for other [TS]

01:15:15 ◼   ► reasons but believe me it's not because [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► they're afraid of stopping on their pro [TS]

01:15:18 ◼   ► max all right Andy Hume writes what are [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► John's plans for his cheese grater after [TS]

01:15:23 ◼   ► he replaces it sell it donate it to the [TS]

01:15:25 ◼   ► Hackett collection and I'm going to add [TS]

01:15:27 ◼   ► my guess which is it'll go in your attic [TS]

01:15:30 ◼   ► never to be seen again [TS]

01:15:31 ◼   ► yeah I had a collection before Hackett [TS]

01:15:35 ◼   ► was in short pants Wow giant collection [TS]

01:15:39 ◼   ► of stuff in my attic that's probably [TS]

01:15:40 ◼   ► where it's going room but I have a half [TS]

01:15:41 ◼   ► of mine to answer this literally because [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► I actually do have plans for and [TS]

01:15:48 ◼   ► collections of actual cheese graders [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► because oXXO makes it actually used to [TS]

01:15:55 ◼   ► make a cheese grater for that I used to [TS]

01:15:57 ◼   ► grate cheese it was the one hard cheese [TS]

01:16:01 ◼   ► grater that I found like very satisfying [TS]

01:16:04 ◼   ► and they stopped the making it so much [TS]

01:16:08 ◼   ► they stopped making it because it had [TS]

01:16:10 ◼   ► like a design flaw like it had had this [TS]

01:16:12 ◼   ► flappy plastic part of it that would [TS]

01:16:15 ◼   ► eventually crack so I kind of understand [TS]

01:16:17 ◼   ► why they stopped making it because you [TS]

01:16:19 ◼   ► know it would last like a couple of [TS]

01:16:20 ◼   ► years and then that thing would crack so [TS]

01:16:22 ◼   ► it's like oh you know we need to go back [TS]

01:16:24 ◼   ► to the drawing board because yeah this [TS]

01:16:25 ◼   ► thing is great but eventually it cracks [TS]

01:16:26 ◼   ► and the one they replaced it with is [TS]

01:16:29 ◼   ► terrible it is ergonomically bad you [TS]

01:16:32 ◼   ► don't get as much mechanical advantage [TS]

01:16:34 ◼   ► when you no pressing the cheese against [TS]

01:16:37 ◼   ► the the grating part that turns or [TS]

01:16:39 ◼   ► whatever I continue to wish and hope for [TS]

01:16:42 ◼   ► and have many times thought about trying [TS]

01:16:44 ◼   ► to tinker my way into a electric powered [TS]

01:16:47 ◼   ► one of these because it is difficult to [TS]

01:16:49 ◼   ► do and tiring kind of tedious if you use [TS]

01:16:52 ◼   ► as much Parmesan cheese as I do to [TS]

01:16:53 ◼   ► constantly have to be grading it by hand [TS]

01:16:56 ◼   ► you can't really use a food processor or [TS]

01:16:58 ◼   ► any other things for a variety of other [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► reasons you kind of need something it's [TS]

01:17:01 ◼   ► slow high torque anyway I've thought [TS]

01:17:02 ◼   ► about it a little bit but in the [TS]

01:17:03 ◼   ► meantime these Oxford cheeseburgers they [TS]

01:17:05 ◼   ► don't make anymore [TS]

01:17:06 ◼   ► I think either I or my wife for some [TS]

01:17:09 ◼   ► combination like we waited too long we [TS]

01:17:12 ◼   ► realized we went to like buy a new one [TS]

01:17:14 ◼   ► after one of ours cracked mic we can't [TS]

01:17:15 ◼   ► find it anymore what happened to when [TS]

01:17:16 ◼   ► you found it it was discontinued and we [TS]

01:17:18 ◼   ► tried a bunch of other ones and they all [TS]

01:17:19 ◼   ► suck and it was like we need to there's [TS]

01:17:21 ◼   ► no we need to just find every one of [TS]

01:17:23 ◼   ► these things it's still for sale so I [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► have like a collection of three of them [TS]

01:17:26 ◼   ► I think in the basement my current one [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► is slowly cracking upstairs in my [TS]

01:17:30 ◼   ► kitchen right now and when I go through [TS]

01:17:32 ◼   ► those three like I don't know what I'm [TS]

01:17:33 ◼   ► gonna do it may be at that point it's [TS]

01:17:35 ◼   ► time for me to build my electric powered [TS]

01:17:37 ◼   ► one but anyway my plans for my cheese [TS]

01:17:39 ◼   ► graters are grim like I don't know what [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► I'm gonna do after I go through all [TS]

01:17:42 ◼   ► three of them but my friends alone [TS]

01:17:44 ◼   ► MacPro [TS]

01:17:45 ◼   ► it will go into my attic alongside its [TS]

01:17:46 ◼   ► brethren surely it will because this is [TS]

01:17:49 ◼   ► one of my champion max of all times it [TS]

01:17:51 ◼   ► will go it will have a place of honor [TS]

01:17:52 ◼   ► next to my ac30 Wow I never in a million [TS]

01:17:56 ◼   ► years did I think that that was where [TS]

01:18:00 ◼   ► this was this question was going to end [TS]

01:18:02 ◼   ► up and I this is one of the reasons I [TS]

01:18:05 ◼   ► love this show so damn much because [TS]

01:18:07 ◼   ► that's where we ended up alrighty and [TS]

01:18:09 ◼   ► finally in our diversion into a skate EP [TS]

01:18:13 ◼   ► that's going to make us happy again Kurt [TS]

01:18:15 ◼   ► asks hey remember messages in iCloud [TS]

01:18:18 ◼   ► whomp-whomp [TS]

01:18:19 ◼   ► is this question like what's the quit [TS]

01:18:22 ◼   ► yeah honestly I almost forgot about it [TS]

01:18:24 ◼   ► but like yeah there's there's no look [TS]

01:18:27 ◼   ► there's no news here if they announced [TS]

01:18:28 ◼   ► it it isn't here you know it it probably [TS]

01:18:31 ◼   ► got delayed until the next OS release oh [TS]

01:18:33 ◼   ► well I wanted actually is a topic in the [TS]

01:18:39 ◼   ► list for a long time and it kept getting [TS]

01:18:41 ◼   ► pushed down and I want to say to this [TS]

01:18:43 ◼   ► question yeah I remember it looking [TS]

01:18:47 ◼   ► forward to it every time I go to [TS]

01:18:48 ◼   ► messages and I see a different [TS]

01:18:50 ◼   ► collection of messages and a different [TS]

01:18:52 ◼   ► conversation contents on my Mac and on [TS]

01:18:53 ◼   ► my phone that are like sitting two feet [TS]

01:18:55 ◼   ► from each other I think why why does [TS]

01:18:56 ◼   ► this have to be this way so I really [TS]

01:18:59 ◼   ► hope fine if it's not done like by all [TS]

01:19:00 ◼   ► means like wait until it's done right [TS]

01:19:02 ◼   ► but I really really hope that this [TS]

01:19:05 ◼   ► feature appears eventually yeah me too [TS]

01:19:07 ◼   ► it mean there's a reason why I got like [TS]

01:19:09 ◼   ► a noticeable applause during the keynote [TS]

01:19:11 ◼   ► where it was announced last summer but [TS]

01:19:13 ◼   ► you know yeah it's it's a kind of thing [TS]

01:19:15 ◼   ► like if look if it's not done don't ship [TS]

01:19:17 ◼   ► it if it's unreliable or if it's broken [TS]

01:19:18 ◼   ► like the system we have now is already [TS]

01:19:21 ◼   ► and reliable in Birken we don't need to [TS]

01:19:22 ◼   ► be broken in new ways like let's wait [TS]

01:19:24 ◼   ► until it works right and then ship it [TS]

01:19:26 ◼   ► and then you know I'd rather have it you [TS]

01:19:28 ◼   ► know late then wrong well thanks to our [TS]

01:19:31 ◼   ► sponsors this week Squarespace hello and [TS]

01:19:34 ◼   ► our X bar and we will see you next week [TS]

01:19:40 ◼   ► now the show is over they didn't even [TS]

01:19:43 ◼   ► mean to begin because it was accidental [TS]

01:19:47 ◼   ► oh it was accidental Johnny research [TS]

01:19:52 ◼   ► Marco and Casey wouldn't let him because [TS]

01:19:56 ◼   ► it was accidental it was accidental you [TS]

01:20:01 ◼   ► can find the show notes at a CAS pyl ISS [TS]

01:20:15 ◼   ► so that's Casey list and a are Co AR m [TS]

01:20:19 ◼   ► and T Marco Arment [TS]

01:20:22 ◼   ► si R ACC Syracuse [TS]

01:20:40 ◼   ► so Casey I have a gift for you okay I [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► was I was wondering where whether to [TS]

01:20:47 ◼   ► keep this secret how long to keep the [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► secret but at some point the secret is [TS]

01:20:52 ◼   ► going to fall out so I figured I might [TS]

01:20:53 ◼   ► as well come clean with you now oh my [TS]

01:20:57 ◼   ► god I think he fired you somehow I got [TS]

01:21:00 ◼   ► you fired from your job that's his gift [TS]

01:21:02 ◼   ► that's it yeah yeah I really know as you [TS]

01:21:04 ◼   ► to your boss say well filled with full [TS]

01:21:07 ◼   ► of profanity that would be for me so it [TS]

01:21:09 ◼   ► doesn't make sense yeah actually yes so [TS]

01:21:13 ◼   ► my gift to you is revealing the secret [TS]

01:21:17 ◼   ► Tiff's got me a vinyl player for [TS]

01:21:21 ◼   ► Christmas look at the box they're [TS]

01:21:29 ◼   ► definitely not called vinyl players this [TS]

01:21:34 ◼   ► is the best moment of my life right now [TS]

01:21:35 ◼   ► yeah you could use a gift after after [TS]

01:21:39 ◼   ► your probably sleepless week all right [TS]

01:21:41 ◼   ► so can you can you uh can you give me [TS]

01:21:43 ◼   ► context for this like is she buying it [TS]

01:21:45 ◼   ► for you as a joke is it something that [TS]

01:21:47 ◼   ► you mentioned you want is it something [TS]

01:21:49 ◼   ► that she wanted and is passing it off as [TS]

01:21:51 ◼   ► a gift to you but really she wants it is [TS]

01:21:53 ◼   ► this her bowling ball so we've had the [TS]

01:21:57 ◼   ► hello Internet episode of vinyl sitting [TS]

01:22:00 ◼   ► on like two years or however long it's [TS]

01:22:05 ◼   ► been since it came out [TS]

01:22:06 ◼   ► does she know she can make a player out [TS]

01:22:08 ◼   ► of a cone of paper and a needle did not [TS]

01:22:11 ◼   ► know that actually I guess that makes [TS]

01:22:13 ◼   ► sense yeah yeah anyway so we got she got [TS]

01:22:17 ◼   ► me a turntable so that we could play the [TS]

01:22:19 ◼   ► hello internet vinyl and I have a [TS]

01:22:22 ◼   ► turntable and I have that that [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► particular record the spoilers not at a [TS]

01:22:26 ◼   ► time not even either I've had it for [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► forever and I still haven't had a chance [TS]

01:22:30 ◼   ► to play it so I'm right there with you [TS]

01:22:31 ◼   ► but that's awesome so I need to start [TS]

01:22:35 ◼   ► sending you actual good music in the [TS]

01:22:37 ◼   ► snot fish post paste well and she also [TS]

01:22:40 ◼   ► got me a fish album she got me yeah [TS]

01:22:43 ◼   ► a live one in history giveth and taketh [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► away [TS]

01:22:47 ◼   ► so so I we've actually so I actually [TS]

01:22:51 ◼   ► decided you know because also over the [TS]

01:22:53 ◼   ► holidays we visited Mike and Adina and [TS]

01:22:56 ◼   ► they had a turntable and they were and [TS]

01:22:59 ◼   ► we we they were playing music on it [TS]

01:23:01 ◼   ► during our entire you know you know meal [TS]

01:23:05 ◼   ► there and it was really nice to just [TS]

01:23:07 ◼   ► kind of be hanging out and to have music [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► playing now yeah you can't do that [TS]

01:23:11 ◼   ► without vinyl that's for sure right and [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► so it was nice though and so it okay [TS]

01:23:17 ◼   ► let's I'll try this on like you know [TS]

01:23:20 ◼   ► it's it's like trying on a new style of [TS]

01:23:22 ◼   ► hat or something it's like here's [TS]

01:23:24 ◼   ► something that like the hip people are [TS]

01:23:26 ◼   ► doing I don't know if I don't know if [TS]

01:23:28 ◼   ► this is my thing but I'll try it on you [TS]

01:23:30 ◼   ► know and so I tried it on and so I have [TS]

01:23:33 ◼   ► a couple of albums you know and also by [TS]

01:23:36 ◼   ► the way [TS]

01:23:36 ◼   ► boy do I suck at buying vinyl there's a [TS]

01:23:40 ◼   ► lot of albums that are available on [TS]

01:23:42 ◼   ► violently the modern album so you know [TS]

01:23:43 ◼   ► besides like the night you know the ones [TS]

01:23:45 ◼   ► that were originally issued on vinyl [TS]

01:23:46 ◼   ► like in like the 60s and stuff [TS]

01:23:48 ◼   ► but there's a lot of like modern modern [TS]

01:23:50 ◼   ► albums and reissues from like the 90s [TS]

01:23:53 ◼   ► and stuff that have been reissued now [TS]

01:23:55 ◼   ► and vinyl now that now that's like a [TS]

01:23:56 ◼   ► growth business that you can charge [TS]

01:23:58 ◼   ► people twenty five dollars for the same [TS]

01:23:59 ◼   ► album they bought twenty years ago most [TS]

01:24:02 ◼   ► of them that I have found like about [TS]

01:24:04 ◼   ► half of the ones I have found I have [TS]

01:24:06 ◼   ► accidentally bought them where it's like [TS]

01:24:08 ◼   ► they split what was one CD on to two [TS]

01:24:13 ◼   ► records and so each side of each record [TS]

01:24:17 ◼   ► has three or two songs on it followed by [TS]

01:24:20 ◼   ► this giant wide strip of black silence [TS]

01:24:23 ◼   ► in the middle yes so this is like I know [TS]

01:24:28 ◼   ► how to use them you don't remember that [TS]

01:24:30 ◼   ► like you don't remember one of the [TS]

01:24:32 ◼   ► things about CDs being its capacity for [TS]

01:24:35 ◼   ► like how many minutes of audio you can [TS]

01:24:37 ◼   ► have on it and with the compromises [TS]

01:24:39 ◼   ► about the inner and outer tracks like [TS]

01:24:40 ◼   ► that those things were gone like that [TS]

01:24:42 ◼   ► was one of the innovations of CDs oh my [TS]

01:24:45 ◼   ► god I just figured it out yeah cuz the [TS]

01:24:47 ◼   ► air the outer tracks will rotate more so [TS]

01:24:49 ◼   ► they'll have more fidelity oh that's why [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► they do it final as the show oh that's [TS]

01:24:54 ◼   ► those ticks all right did you see [TS]

01:24:57 ◼   ► I was trying to think of a way to say it [TS]

01:25:00 ◼   ► without cursing but I just said after [TS]

01:25:02 ◼   ► show yeah so like he so let me tell you [TS]

01:25:05 ◼   ► my annoyance is first then I'll get into [TS]

01:25:06 ◼   ► some things I actually like about it [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► yeah like so many like I bought albums [TS]

01:25:12 ◼   ► thinking like oh I love this album it's [TS]

01:25:14 ◼   ► good because you might get my criteria [TS]

01:25:16 ◼   ► is obviously things that I want to play [TS]

01:25:20 ◼   ► like out loud with other people around [TS]

01:25:22 ◼   ► that I wouldn't be embarrassed by the [TS]

01:25:24 ◼   ► whole album has to be good all the way [TS]

01:25:26 ◼   ► through cuz skipping songs is not really [TS]

01:25:28 ◼   ► an easy thing oh it's not bad I [TS]

01:25:30 ◼   ► understand your point but it's not bad [TS]

01:25:32 ◼   ► so anyway and and I had to get a photo [TS]

01:25:34 ◼   ► preamp so I got of course the one from [TS]

01:25:36 ◼   ► shit I forgive that alright this record [TS]

01:25:39 ◼   ► player is just a way for a marker to buy [TS]

01:25:40 ◼   ► more amps and other German boxes with [TS]

01:25:43 ◼   ► vulgar names one box a photo preamp [TS]

01:25:46 ◼   ► because the turntable do not have a [TS]

01:25:47 ◼   ► built-in preamp okay so first of all I'm [TS]

01:25:50 ◼   ► like you know I connect everything up [TS]

01:25:51 ◼   ► and there's like just constant constant [TS]

01:25:54 ◼   ► low-level noise coming out of speaker [TS]

01:25:57 ◼   ► and I'm like well something's wrong warm [TS]

01:25:59 ◼   ► doesn't it yes so it's like I get like I [TS]

01:26:01 ◼   ► got a ground loop isolator I tried that [TS]

01:26:04 ◼   ► tried like a power isolating brick I [TS]

01:26:05 ◼   ► tried like different different cables in [TS]

01:26:07 ◼   ► case the cables were introducing [TS]

01:26:09 ◼   ► interferences everything's analog so [TS]

01:26:10 ◼   ► like everything can use interference and [TS]

01:26:12 ◼   ► in all analog signal path tried lots of [TS]

01:26:14 ◼   ► things isolated lots of things it turns [TS]

01:26:16 ◼   ► out yeah that's just like the noise [TS]

01:26:17 ◼   ► floor of this cartridge or whatever it's [TS]

01:26:19 ◼   ► like there's no like it isn't the ground [TS]

01:26:21 ◼   ► loop it isn't electrical interference [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► like it's it's just like yeah just the [TS]

01:26:26 ◼   ► noise floor isn't that isn't that low [TS]

01:26:29 ◼   ► and and definitely the my least favorite [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► thing about playing them is how often [TS]

01:26:38 ◼   ► you have to flip it over because each [TS]

01:26:40 ◼   ► side holds I think a maximum of [TS]

01:26:41 ◼   ► something like 22 minutes or 20 minutes [TS]

01:26:42 ◼   ► something like that you know these [TS]

01:26:44 ◼   ► number John no I don't remember from my [TS]

01:26:46 ◼   ► youth but I'm sure I surely do remember [TS]

01:26:48 ◼   ► flipping yeah exactly so you have to [TS]

01:26:50 ◼   ► flip them you know every like four or [TS]

01:26:52 ◼   ► five songs basically unless you have one [TS]

01:26:55 ◼   ► of these stupid audiophile ones that I [TS]

01:26:57 ◼   ► accidentally bought where it's like you [TS]

01:26:59 ◼   ► take one out and split onto four and you [TS]

01:27:01 ◼   ► go about every two songs thanks a lot [TS]

01:27:03 ◼   ► anyway I will say in in this endeavor [TS]

01:27:07 ◼   ► there are things that I [TS]

01:27:11 ◼   ► unexpectedly like about it the best way [TS]

01:27:15 ◼   ► I can the best metaphor I've come up [TS]

01:27:16 ◼   ► with for this is it's kind of like a [TS]

01:27:19 ◼   ► Kindle is for reading like a Kindle does [TS]

01:27:24 ◼   ► not look as good as an iPad or a printed [TS]

01:27:26 ◼   ► page like the the the resolution of the [TS]

01:27:29 ◼   ► text is nowhere near it even on the new [TS]

01:27:30 ◼   ► Kindles with the higher resolution [TS]

01:27:31 ◼   ► screens - no it's nowhere close to [TS]

01:27:33 ◼   ► either print or even Retina screens on [TS]

01:27:35 ◼   ► an iPad pro like a Kindle by all [TS]

01:27:38 ◼   ► accounts looks worse it also does less [TS]

01:27:41 ◼   ► and functions worse in a number of ways [TS]

01:27:44 ◼   ► than other ways to read books but the [TS]

01:27:47 ◼   ► the appeal of Kindles is that they can [TS]

01:27:52 ◼   ► do nothing else so it it kind of helps [TS]

01:27:56 ◼   ► you appreciate the book more that this [TS]

01:27:59 ◼   ► that if you're using this device to read [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► books that's all you're doing like [TS]

01:28:04 ◼   ► that's all you you kind of have to put [TS]

01:28:06 ◼   ► some effort into it that's all you're [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► doing it's not going to ever do anything [TS]

01:28:09 ◼   ► else it's very simple etc playing music [TS]

01:28:13 ◼   ► on vinyl is a pain in the X but it's a [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► way to like deliberately sit down and [TS]

01:28:21 ◼   ► choose to enjoy an album and this works [TS]

01:28:25 ◼   ► especially for me because I'm I've [TS]

01:28:27 ◼   ► always been an album listener even when [TS]

01:28:30 ◼   ► I listen to mp3s and everything I don't [TS]

01:28:32 ◼   ► listen on shuffle to my whole collection [TS]

01:28:33 ◼   ► or anything I don't make playlists I [TS]

01:28:35 ◼   ► listen to albums all the way through [TS]

01:28:37 ◼   ► that's how I've always listened for like [TS]

01:28:39 ◼   ► the last 20 years like that's just how I [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► listen to music and I've joked Tift like [TS]

01:28:44 ◼   ► oh we could've just gotten a CD player [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► I'm gonna say there are other devices [TS]

01:28:51 ◼   ► music I know I know but I'm saying like [TS]

01:28:54 ◼   ► you know this is a pain in the end and [TS]

01:28:56 ◼   ► it's a novelty and it's you know I don't [TS]

01:29:00 ◼   ► expect to be playing vinyl forever and [TS]

01:29:02 ◼   ► it doesn't sound better it sounds worse [TS]

01:29:03 ◼   ► notes will be worse you know I'm not I'm [TS]

01:29:05 ◼   ► not [TS]

01:29:06 ◼   ► my-my-my making fun of Casey in the past [TS]

01:29:09 ◼   ► on vinyl is that you know I don't mind [TS]

01:29:10 ◼   ► if people say they enjoy it more I do [TS]

01:29:12 ◼   ► mind when people say it sounds better [TS]

01:29:13 ◼   ► because it doesn't and it can't and it [TS]

01:29:15 ◼   ► never will but I do appreciate the [TS]

01:29:20 ◼   ► activity of playing music on vinyl now [TS]

01:29:25 ◼   ► in a way I didn't appreciate before so [TS]

01:29:27 ◼   ► that is my gift to you Casey you need to [TS]

01:29:30 ◼   ► get one of those I don't know if they [TS]

01:29:31 ◼   ► make these but like the best analogy is [TS]

01:29:34 ◼   ► like one of these things you use for [TS]

01:29:35 ◼   ► like pets or animals where like it looks [TS]

01:29:38 ◼   ► like a record player and you put a [TS]

01:29:40 ◼   ► record on it and you put the little [TS]

01:29:41 ◼   ► needle in and you hear the little [TS]

01:29:43 ◼   ► crackle but then what actually happens [TS]

01:29:45 ◼   ► is behind the scenes it plays just you [TS]

01:29:47 ◼   ► know a digital audio file that is [TS]

01:29:49 ◼   ► exactly equivalent to whatever record [TS]

01:29:52 ◼   ► you put on there so you can get the [TS]

01:29:53 ◼   ► audio quality you want with all the [TS]

01:29:55 ◼   ► other stuff that you want from her like [TS]

01:29:57 ◼   ► so you get you get all the ceremony of [TS]

01:29:59 ◼   ► doing it help make the make the digital [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► audio file stop and make you flip the [TS]

01:30:02 ◼   ► disc before it plays the next two tracks [TS]

01:30:04 ◼   ► I've actually been scheming like I [TS]

01:30:06 ◼   ► wonder if I could get a Raspberry Pi or [TS]

01:30:08 ◼   ► something [TS]

01:30:08 ◼   ► next to the record player and just put [TS]

01:30:10 ◼   ► an SD card and had like have cheap SD [TS]

01:30:13 ◼   ► cards in the pocket of each vinyl cover [TS]

01:30:15 ◼   ► and just like stick it so you just what [TS]

01:30:19 ◼   ► you just want to do is put a plastic [TS]

01:30:21 ◼   ► disc on something and drop a needle on [TS]

01:30:22 ◼   ► it that's what you want to happen and [TS]

01:30:24 ◼   ► they use music play music doesn't have [TS]

01:30:26 ◼   ► to come from that thing yeah it's anyway [TS]

01:30:29 ◼   ► well so you didn't you didn't adequately [TS]

01:30:31 ◼   ► explain to me I guess it was it was it [TS]

01:30:33 ◼   ► just the the hello intern and that's [TS]

01:30:35 ◼   ► like literally it or just if actually [TS]

01:30:37 ◼   ► was to have actually convinced by the [TS]

01:30:38 ◼   ► the moon hipsters from London that this [TS]

01:30:40 ◼   ► is a thing they have to do you have to [TS]

01:30:42 ◼   ► do to regain your youth and coolness I [TS]

01:30:43 ◼   ► think some of both certainly and you [TS]

01:30:46 ◼   ► know it's a cool thing it's it's a [TS]

01:30:47 ◼   ► really nicely designed object like it's [TS]

01:30:49 ◼   ► a nice like hipster turntable it's like [TS]

01:30:51 ◼   ► this like you know minimal minimal [TS]

01:30:52 ◼   ► visual design thing made of wood like [TS]

01:30:55 ◼   ► it's really nice-looking so I think it's [TS]

01:30:58 ◼   ► a combination of all those things [TS]

01:30:59 ◼   ► well I'm very disappointed in you Marco [TS]

01:31:01 ◼   ► oh yeah you I'm very disappointed in [TS]

01:31:03 ◼   ► Mike Medina but uh you know they're [TS]

01:31:06 ◼   ► young so next year I'll buy I'll buy an [TS]

01:31:10 ◼   ► SI CD player maybe and I'll tell you how [TS]

01:31:12 ◼   ► that goes oh no I would not be I would [TS]

01:31:14 ◼   ► say there you go you know you're on the [TS]

01:31:16 ◼   ► right track you got to get a Nakamichi [TS]

01:31:18 ◼   ► stereo and a super audio CD player and [TS]

01:31:20 ◼   ► what was the other one DVD audio DVD a [TS]

01:31:23 ◼   ► yeah I think that's dead I think si CD I [TS]

01:31:25 ◼   ► mean both formats as well you can get [TS]

01:31:29 ◼   ► like if you get a Sony blu-ray player it [TS]

01:31:32 ◼   ► will it's they're almost all also si CD [TS]

01:31:34 ◼   ► players hmm so you so I could get like a [TS]

01:31:36 ◼   ► Sony 4k blue because I was saying like [TS]

01:31:38 ◼   ► maybe I should have [TS]

01:31:38 ◼   ► okay blu-ray player okay TV now yeah [TS]

01:31:41 ◼   ► exactly so I could all have it you can [TS]

01:31:43 ◼   ► think I think of the ceremony of the [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► blu-ray as you wait for a Java to load [TS]

01:31:46 ◼   ► the stupid menus that's all part of the [TS]

01:31:47 ◼   ► ceremony Margot I met it's very I'm very [TS]

01:31:51 ◼   ► yeah I want to be very clear here I [TS]

01:31:52 ◼   ► don't give two craps about the ceremony [TS]

01:31:54 ◼   ► I I appreciate the idea of sitting down [TS]

01:31:58 ◼   ► to deliberately and only listen to music [TS]

01:32:01 ◼   ► like to to just enjoy the music that is [TS]

01:32:04 ◼   ► playing and not have it be part of a [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► whole separate like computing experience [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► and multimedia device and everything [TS]

01:32:13 ◼   ► like it's it's hard you could just get a [TS]

01:32:15 ◼   ► CD player I'm not convinced you don't [TS]

01:32:17 ◼   ► you don't care about the ceremony I [TS]

01:32:19 ◼   ► don't care about ceremony I'm not [TS]

01:32:20 ◼   ► convinced and and just just give you a [TS]

01:32:23 ◼   ► few more days I'm flipping these discs [TS]

01:32:24 ◼   ► and believe me you know what else you [TS]

01:32:27 ◼   ► can do with records you might remember [TS]

01:32:29 ◼   ► from your youth they shatter real good [TS]

01:32:30 ◼   ► when you have fights with them well it's [TS]

01:32:33 ◼   ► also it's kind of cool to lay first of [TS]

01:32:34 ◼   ► all like the the the services like like [TS]

01:32:39 ◼   ► I've been buying most of them on Amazon [TS]

01:32:40 ◼   ► the ones that are still in print at [TS]

01:32:42 ◼   ► least and it's cool because like they [TS]

01:32:44 ◼   ► include a digital copy if you buy vinyl [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► in Amazon it automatically adds that [TS]

01:32:49 ◼   ► album to your music collection that is [TS]

01:32:51 ◼   ► the most millennia lips or thing I've [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► ever heard in my life well I'm sure you [TS]

01:32:55 ◼   ► buy a record and it comes yeah yeah cut [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► some of the ones I bought have the CD in [TS]

01:33:02 ◼   ► a paper sleeve inside the inside the [TS]

01:33:04 ◼   ► fire like it comes one reason I've never [TS]

01:33:06 ◼   ► seen that yeah I think I think the [TS]

01:33:07 ◼   ► nickel creek when I thought I think has [TS]

01:33:09 ◼   ► that band great great fan I know yeah if [TS]

01:33:13 ◼   ► you if you buy the one with the corn [TS]

01:33:15 ◼   ► song on the elephant the corn the album [TS]

01:33:17 ◼   ► that has that on it it's come to that [TS]

01:33:19 ◼   ► you know how they make like like USB [TS]

01:33:22 ◼   ► thumb drives out of all sorts of things [TS]

01:33:24 ◼   ► and they need to come up with a vinyl [TS]

01:33:27 ◼   ► album that is itself actually an SD card [TS]

01:33:30 ◼   ► like it's an SD card with a huge [TS]

01:33:32 ◼   ► circular grooved handle this is a record [TS]

01:33:35 ◼   ► but it really is a giant SD card yeah so [TS]

01:33:38 ◼   ► anyway yeah it's I again it's I know [TS]

01:33:42 ◼   ► it's ridiculous and it does not sound [TS]

01:33:46 ◼   ► better and it's a bit of a pain in the [TS]

01:33:48 ◼   ► ass but it is kind of fun I also I kind [TS]

01:33:49 ◼   ► of like having the giant album [TS]

01:33:52 ◼   ► art look what this is like the original [TS]

01:33:55 ◼   ► album art that's what you should be [TS]

01:33:57 ◼   ► buying you should just be buying record [TS]

01:33:58 ◼   ► sleeves and putting them on your walls [TS]

01:33:59 ◼   ► art don't listen to them look at them [TS]

01:34:02 ◼   ► that's actually not a bad idea okay look [TS]

01:34:05 ◼   ► at things I used to have I used to have [TS]

01:34:06 ◼   ► long boxes on my wall when the scene I [TS]

01:34:08 ◼   ► liked it as a replacement of like [TS]

01:34:10 ◼   ► because I was kind of disappointed that [TS]

01:34:12 ◼   ► album liked the album art went away it's [TS]

01:34:14 ◼   ► like well I got these long boxes so I [TS]

01:34:15 ◼   ► guess it's all I and then those why [TS]

01:34:17 ◼   ► don't wait to well I for one am happy [TS]

01:34:19 ◼   ► that that you've discovered that [TS]

01:34:21 ◼   ► sometimes I say things that are not [TS]

01:34:23 ◼   ► completely insane turns out I know it's [TS]

01:34:26 ◼   ► weird but it does happen [TS]

01:34:28 ◼   ► well you it wasn't sane when you said it [TS]

01:34:30 ◼   ► sounded better that was definitely [TS]

01:34:31 ◼   ► insane it does not sound well I'm [TS]

01:34:33 ◼   ► excited I applaud Tiff's purchase for [TS]

01:34:36 ◼   ► you I applaud you realizing that [TS]

01:34:39 ◼   ► something I've known for most of my life [TS]

01:34:43 ◼   ► and older people older than us have [TS]

01:34:45 ◼   ► known for their entire lives basically [TS]

01:34:47 ◼   ► that hey it's not so bad and you know [TS]

01:34:49 ◼   ► what in the grand scheme of things as a [TS]

01:34:50 ◼   ► man who likes wristwatches based out of [TS]

01:34:53 ◼   ► 1812 I'm not entirely surprised that you [TS]

01:34:56 ◼   ► like an audio playback system that is [TS]

01:34:59 ◼   ► also based from out of 1812 so as time [TS]

01:35:02 ◼   ► goes on and as you get older so does [TS]

01:35:04 ◼   ► your techno do your technical [TS]

01:35:06 ◼   ► technological preferences and so this is [TS]

01:35:09 ◼   ► just the next step in the way you have a [TS]

01:35:11 ◼   ► beard now I mean you just need that [TS]

01:35:12 ◼   ► strand you in the beard I mean you're [TS]

01:35:15 ◼   ► you're really getting clear you need [TS]

01:35:16 ◼   ► flannel and skinny jeans and you'll be [TS]

01:35:18 ◼   ► full hipster yeah man I'm not actually [TS]

01:35:20 ◼   ► skinny though that's the problem does [TS]

01:35:22 ◼   ► that matter [TS]

01:35:22 ◼   ► I'm saying you're trying to recapture [TS]

01:35:24 ◼   ► your youth you're not actually in your [TS]

01:35:25 ◼   ► youth oh that is a good gift though it's [TS]

01:35:29 ◼   ► a press shift god damn it Sean [TS]

01:35:29 ◼   ► a press shift god damn it Sean [TS]

00:00:00 ◼   ► so we should probably catch everyone up [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► in case they weren't aware Aaron did in [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► fact have our baby early Thursday [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► morning so for those of you who may have [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► heard the last episode you may recall [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► that that was that was recorded Tuesday [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► night and I didn't really want to get [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► into it during the show but Aaron Aaron [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► was actually starting to have [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► contractions during the show like it was [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► shortly before the show that we looked [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► at each other and said oh yeah this is [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► probably yet so we we went into the OB [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► the following morning Wednesday morning [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► and the OB had said Oh she'll definitely [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► Aaron will definitely be done by evening [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► time and as we got closer and closer to [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► the evening time Oh it'll be definitely [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► done by midnight and as we got closer [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► and closer to midnight Oh it'll be [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► definitely done any second now and sure [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► enough that a little after 3:00 in the [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► morning Aaron blessed our family with a [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► little girl whose name is Mikayla [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► Charlotte and and we are overjoyed and [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► very tired exactly the normal response [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► for having a newborn oh and I started to [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► say earlier and then I got myself [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► sidetracked we did what appears to be [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► the inverse of the siracusa family [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► approach because our first child was or [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► at least my hazy memory of Declan was [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► reasonably easy in the grand scheme of [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► things like any child is a royal pain in [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► the tuchus but nonetheless Declan was [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► reasonably easy [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► whereas Mikayla is starting out anyway [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► considerably more challenging and it may [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► just be that my memory which is already [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► bad in general has just blocked the new [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► baby phase from my mind but hoo boy this [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► is something else and if I recall [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► correctly John you said that that your [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► son was what did you call him I was [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► asking Aaron necessarily like a scream a [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► pillar or something like that yeah [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► there's one of his many delightful names [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► he basically screamed for the first [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► several months of his life continuously [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► yet you somehow decided to have a second [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► child which you know like the only thing [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► that he kept this weed out was like what [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► if the next one is worse like is that [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► impossible could be worse like literal [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► fire coming from the baby I don't know [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► it could be yeah yeah Alex was was [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► inconsolable [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► nothing consoled him in any way you know [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► rocking walking burping feeding and he [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► refused to eat okay so you're worse off [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► than we are because the one the one [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► thing that we do have going for us is [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► that if Mikael is attached to Aaron [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► everyone is happy well except Aaron but [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► everyone is happy and I say except Aaron [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► only because as it turns out which I [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► didn't know until we had a kid [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► breastfeeding not fun not easy who knew [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► and so Aaron is you know extremely happy [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► to be able to do it don't get me wrong [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► but it is not an intensely pleasurable [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► experience for Aaron dev this like leech [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► latched on to her all the time I mean it [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► can be depending but like but yeah [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► there's definitely a learning curve that [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► most people don't think about and one of [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► the extra difficulties with Alex was [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► because it was our first we didn't have [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► like the experience to know that this is [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► a thing we could successfully do like [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► you know Aaron had a journal I was like [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► I'm capable of this like it's a pain and [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► it's annoying and lots of things can go [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► wrong and you know be a bother and be [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► painful and things you know whatever but [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► she can do it but Alex it was like look [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► or you know can can we accomplish this [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► well why does our child refuse to to [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► feed why is he just screaming at me like [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► surely this child is hungry but no it's [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► only hungry for screaming oh he's hungry [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► for more so it wasn't yet Michaela isn't [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► as bad as Alex in that regard this is a [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► lot of complaining which is truly an [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► utterly unfair you just hit me at a [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► tired moment the reality of the [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► situation is and I'm being serious is [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► that if I take a step back we have been [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► lucky enough through the miracle of [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► science did I say that with no hyperbole [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► intended we have been lucky enough [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► through the miracle science to have two [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► kids that that nature by itself wouldn't [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► let us have and that is really [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► tremendous and we're deeply deeply [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► deeply lucky for it [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► Aaron's labor was difficult every labor [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► is difficult I'm not saying hers is more [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► or less too [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► cult than any other regardless big [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► congratulations Casey you guys went [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► through a lot on both fronts with both [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► kids and we're really proud of you and [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► big congratulations it's all smooth [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► sailing for me so you have a newborn [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► everything is in chaos you haven't slept [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► you got a self-employment gig set up yet [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► lining right up no I do not I have not [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► even thought about it although because [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► this is what I need to do with my time [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► I'm working on a Mac app what sort of [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► kind of I know it's the correct [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► reversing clock Pro yes that's it that's [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► exactly no I'm overcast you're like [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► overcast Rumaki and by the way I'm [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► billing you tomorrow um no I I yeah Adam [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► trying a short short version of the [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► story so I have a very esoteric and very [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► weird photo management workflow that [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► works for me I understand that it's [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► complete garbage to everyone else on the [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► planet but it works for me and the [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► problem with that workflow is it's based [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► on a bunch of Python that I basically [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► understand but can't really create [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► anymore like I can I'm not very good at [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► writing Python I've done a smattering in [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► my day but very very little and these [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► scripts came from dr. Drang I've tweaked [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► them ever so slightly in order to do [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► what I need but they're almost entirely [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► what drying had written so anyway so [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► Apple and their infinite wisdom has [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► decided to release new images new image [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► codecs or formats whatever you want to [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► call it with HEV C and a she I see hafe [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► whatever I don't even care whatever I'm [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► tired point is there's new things and [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► those have ruined my workflow and so [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► rather than trying to hack apart Drang [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► script which is great like I'm not [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► trying to say script is bad it's just [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► it's it's a KC problem I don't really [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► understand Python very well although I [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► do approve of using free using white [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► space as delimiters don't at me but [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► anyway the point is I've decided to [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► write a swift command line app in order [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► to do basically the same thing which is [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► to say look at a folder [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► full of images and videos figure out [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► what the date was that those images or [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► videos were taken which could be as [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► simple as the file creation date but [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► often times does not rename them to a [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► given format so in my case I prefer and [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► this is one of the few cases where I [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► like 8601 so my my preferred file format [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► or my preferred file naming is 2017 or [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► 2018 - oh one - 17 space hour hour - [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► minute minute - second second that's [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► just the one I like if you don't like it [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► that's fine [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► this one is mine that's a reference Tron [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► anyway point is the the script that [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► Drang wrote does all of this for me but [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► I decided I don't I don't like the way I [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► hacked it up to work with live photos [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► and trying to figure out what's the [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► Associated movie with a particular image [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► and so I'm just rewriting it as a swift [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► command line app that'll do all this for [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► me and in the span of just today I think [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► I started it I feel like I'm about a [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► third of the way through which means I'm [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► actually about a tenth of the way [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► through but that's better than nothing [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► and that's exciting and I will probably [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► either never release this or at most [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► open source it so other people can laugh [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► at how hacky this is because I'm not [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► writing it for a job I'm writing it for [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► me and hashtag Yolo but that's what I've [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► been doing on and off when I've had a [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► moment to breathe when I've not been [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► entertaining Declan or keeping the [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► screaming pillar from screaming I'll try [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► to steal my screaming pill you gotta [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► come up with a new name [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► you had your peak you had your free [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► birth name with sprig and sprout you [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► gotta have a post birth name yeah yeah I [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► thought Mikayla was getting names not [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► what so what else didn't follow up what [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► we got here so there's another black [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► desktop Mac I hear yeah this is one I [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► did not know about why because it's [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► Europe only so many things are Europe [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► only I like this model of Mac this is [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► like the I don't know what you would [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► have called this case it's the sort of [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► iMac looking all-in-one but the [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► nice-looking one they made a lot of [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► Mac's in this particular form back here [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► but apparently one of them came in black [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► in Europe so more cool stuff again I was [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► also trying to find I look for the link [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► for the second thing there was a story [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► that went around a while ago about [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► how Europe or some European countries or [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► some sort of international standards [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► body had some requirement about the [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► specific color of computers I think the [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► story was like here's why all computers [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► used to be beige it's because of this [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► like ISOs yeah yeah yeah and I couldn't [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► for the life of me find the link so if [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► anyone knows it's an adjustment put in [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► the show notes but anyway the important [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► part of that story other than [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► necessarily you know sensational [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► headline was that to comply with this [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► apparently Apple had to create a bunch [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► of power books whose keyboards were [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► greyish and it looked just awful because [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► power books were all kind of like dark [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► grey or black and they had keyboards [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► that either matched or complemented that [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► except for this they would make them fur [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► I think was just Germany but maybe it [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► was other European countries they'd make [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► a nice sleek black power book and put it [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► like a light grey keyboard and it was [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► gross so kudos for Europe for having [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► this black power mike 5500 and whatever [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► the opposite of kudos is for making [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► Apple make their computers ugly for you [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► cheers and cheers John cheers and jeers [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► yeah what's the opposite of kudos though [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► cheers and jeers works kudos and dukey's [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► all right moving on so tell me about the [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► Peak elk about screen and how it is as [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► quoting and I am now quoting from the [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► show notes the refere of fans yeah so [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► Marcos my ti Mac Pro was recently [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► purchased by James Thomson creator of [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► peacock the an iMac Pro configured like [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► mine not like my actual one I didn't [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► sell mine to him yes yes and peacock has [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► been around for many many years it's a [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► calculator application and it was able [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► to run his fans at full blast [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► how can a calculator run my Mac both [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► pros fans at full blast well if you [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► haven't been keeping up with P calc and [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► you really shouldn't be there is an [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► interesting feature hidden in the about [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► screen that starts to make more sense [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► when you understand that it's wrecking [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► the fans so I don't want to spoil it for [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► you but it does other things as they say [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► on Seinfeld [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► we were sponsored this week by hello [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► buckwheat pillows go to hollow pillow [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► comm slash ATP to learn more and sleep [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► on one for 60 nights risk free have you [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► ever tried a buckwheat pillow they are [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► totally different than the [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► regular like fluffy soft pillows that [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► most of us are used to it's kind of like [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► a beanbag in like texture and [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► consistency and it's filled with [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► buckwheat holes so it doesn't like [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► spring back the way a foam pillow does [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► and it doesn't make your face all hot [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► and sweaty all night it's filled with [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► these lightweight buckwheat holes so it [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► really does kind of move and you can set [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► it like a bean bag you can kind of like [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► push it up to give yourself a lot of [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► support in one area or you can flatten [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► it out to give your you can change [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► throughout the night and it's really you [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► can totally adjust how you see fit [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► because it is really just this nice [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► wonderful organic cotton case made right [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► here in the USA [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► filled with buckwheat holes that were [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► also made and grown and milled right [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► here in the USA so it's a nice high [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► quality materials but in the end of the [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► day it's kind of just a big bean bag and [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► so this is really flexible for whatever [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► however you want to support your head [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► and neck and this is really ends up [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► being a lot better than traditional [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► pillows in a lot of times and for a lot [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► of people you know they find these they [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► find these way more comfortable and a [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► lot of times especially if you're a hot [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► sleeper or if you could if you tend to [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► fold your pillow in half or stack two [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► pillows try to get enough support give [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► hollow pillows a try you know these are [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► not some kind of new totally crazy thing [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► they've been used in Japan for centuries [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► they remain very popular to this day you [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► might even also see them on the pillow [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► menu of fancy hotels buckwheat is really [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► a nice natural way to sleep so hullo [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► check it out today you can try it for 60 [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► nights if it isn't for you after 60 [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► nights they send it back they give you a [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► full refund [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► go to hollow pillow comm slash ATP to [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► see for yourself if you get more than [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► one you can get a discount of twenty [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► dollars per pillow depending on the size [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► and you get fast free shipping on every [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► order once again go to hollow pillow [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► comm slash ATP and try a wonderful [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► buckwheat pillow for 69 - risk-free [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► thank you so much to holo for sponsoring [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► our show so this is an older story about [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► people announcing arms windows pcs is [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► kind of Microsoft's second run at [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► selling you hard arm hardware that runs [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► Windows remember was at Windows RT was [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► the first one they were gonna sell like [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► x86 versions of I think it was their [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► surface stuff or whatever and also arm [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► versions with [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► special version of Windows that runs on [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► it they did they actually did it yeah no [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► one bought them but they did it and it [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► was it just wasn't that popular a lot of [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► people speculated because it's like well [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► it's all well and good and it runs [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► Windows and it has some advantages but [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► it was a while ago arm pcs weren't as [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► powerful as they are now and the main [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► thing is like well I can't run office or [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► office I think they ported office but [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► like all the software that runs on [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► Windows unless the developers recompile [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► for arm I can't run it so their second [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► run at this is cleaner without a special [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► you know without it being like Windows [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► you know suffix type thing is just [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► Windows 10 for arm they have an emulator [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► that will run x86 software so everyone [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► doesn't have to part like they're doing [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► a better job of like you know supporting [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► a second architectures still remains to [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► be seen whether it will succeed for them [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► because I really think well you know I [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► don't know the only examples I have that [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► I'm knowledgeable about are the many [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► transitions Apple has made to different [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► CPU architectures and in all cases Apple [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► has made a transition from one thing to [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► another it has not tried to sustain an [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► ongoing basis two things at the same [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► time so I'm not sure what when Microsoft [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► 7-game hears but anyway I'm not not [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► really interested in Microsoft's ongoing [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► strategy to find ways to sell people [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► more copies of Windows and making [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► interesting Hardware mostly interested [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► in this because of the consumer [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► experience that is offered by these [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► various arm pcs these are all laptops [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► obviously or portable things and a lot [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► of these products offer to the customer [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► statistics like 20 hours of battery life [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► and one one reviewer said that he has [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► been using it for five days without [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► charging the battery this was you know [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► an ARM based PC was testing and most of [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► these things come with LTE you know the [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► modern the slightly more modern than [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► December twistin as a CES happened [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► recently which Ivan Boesky do my best to [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► ignore plus or minus the new televisions [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► but apparently at CES people who were [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► there were saying you know you can't [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► throw a rock without hang a laptop that [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► has LTE so this combines [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► two new ways for our Marco to reiterate [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► old complaints about Apple laptops one I [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► realize doesn't seem to be that great [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► and two they don't have LTE and I have [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► to think this is kind of one of those if [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► you know again if Microsoft is [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► successful with these things like maybe [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► they find a way to sell them the [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► emulator works well enough to make [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► people consider them but like it's not [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► like they get a little bit more battery [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► life than like a MacBook adorable [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► because 20 hours is a little is enough [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► more than five or six hours that it's in [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► a different ballpark it changes how you [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► would use this thing if you could buy an [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► Apple laptop there was MacBook adorably [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► ish you know form factor with LTE they [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► got 20 hours of battery life people [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► would flip their lid right and so the [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► question is why can't we buy that the [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► LTE question we've talked about many [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► times in the past seems like that is [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► within Apple's grasps to do that but so [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► far they haven't and the arm thing we've [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► also talked about in the past but this [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► is another scenario kind of like the [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► Microsoft Surface studio and various [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► other things that Microsoft does where I [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► look at it and I think Microsoft is has [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► better Hardware ideas than Apple and [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► it's merely thwarted by the fact that [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► their platform is not as successful and [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► I have lots of other problems that are [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► you know so you could say well you know [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► you kept saying in Microsoft server [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► studio is such a big deal but it's not [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► really setting the world on fire yes [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► they have other problems like you don't [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► win just because you have interesting [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► hardware but it pains me to see [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► Microsoft being more innovative and it's [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► hardware when I think if Apple just did [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► those same things but also stayed good [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► at all the things that it's good at and [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► it's much more you know sort of popular [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► on the upswing platform I think we would [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► all all love products like that and I'm [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► not saying it's time for Apple to go to [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► arm or whatever I'm just saying the [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► longer Apple waits the more its laptops [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► seem like they are I don't know I'm not [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► gonna say like from another age but [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► going in a different direction than [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► everybody else I can't think of any [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► person who you know who is a current [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► MacBook adorable owner this is that the [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► 12-inch MacBook with one little board on [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► the side of it also known as the MacBook [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► one and saying hey you like that and [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► everything but what if I gave you the [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► same thing and it had to run some of [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► your existing software and emulation but [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► you had 20 hours of battery life [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► LT I think a lot of people would be [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► willing to give that a try I know I [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► would [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► oh absolutely I was just thinking [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► earlier today that I love my my adorable [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► I freaking love this thing but I was [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► also thinking I would kill everyone I [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► knew for a second port but that's a [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► different issue [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► um I do love this thing no I really and [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► truly and honestly do it is not [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► exceptionally fast it is only one port [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► which is which is very frustrating from [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► time to time not always but from time to [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► time but I love this computer and if you [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► told me that I could get two times the [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► battery life not to say that I have a [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► problem with the battery life but if you [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► said hey charging once a day isn't even [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► necessary charge once a weekend and or [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► you said oh and by the way you can have [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► the internet anywhere [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► oh my word I would pay twice as much as [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► I paid for this thing I think I paid [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► like two or three thousand dollars for [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► this thing whatever it was it was not [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► insignificant given that it's the [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► tiniest laptop that Happel sells and I [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► would do anything just like John was [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► saying I would do anything to have that [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► this phantom this phantom laptop with [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► you know twice the battery life in LTE I [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► don't care if it has an arm or not [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► that's that to me is mostly irrelevant [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► like obviously it's an interesting [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► conversation for us three nerds but as a [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► consumer I don't care if it has an arm [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► or not I just want it to last forever [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► which it sort of does now and have LT [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► would be tremendous yes I understand you [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► can tether I get that but to me I'd [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► prefer to have it on board if I could so [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► the arm factor is you know yeah it's [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► like if you put X a six and I wouldn't [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► get twenty hours back like that's that [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► that's the contention of total arm right [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► and it starts to be ever more plausible [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► when you think about how like the iPhone [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► benchmarks against the adorable in [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► single and multi-threaded like the [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► modern iPhone and then you compare the [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► size of the battery in the iPhone ten to [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► the size of the battery in the adorable [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► I granted the adorable has a massive [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► screen on it like it's not apples to [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► apples it's not a hundred percent clear [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► to me that oh just magically replace the [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► CPU with arm you get twenty hours of [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► battery life but you know like aside [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► from consumer perspective they don't [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► know or care [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► what hardware is inside these except as [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► it might impact their software [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► compatibility experience that's where [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► the emulator comes in and maybe that [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► hurts the battery life but either way if [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► they treat this as a transition and go [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► all the way this is an experience that [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► Apple currently can't compete against is [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► very far from competing against and the [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► other angular we didn't get to hear is [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► the sort of a teacher angle where if you [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► were to go to the story that will link [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► in the show notes from our second again [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► look at these products you would say but [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► wait a second that's not a MacBook [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► adorable that's an iPad with the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► keyboard that's like a Windows 10 [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► convertible bond remember Windows has [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► the one OS strategy that handles [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► touching blah blah blah and Apple [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► doesn't and that brings us into a second [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► conversation that I think I had probably [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► around December whenever I was an [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► upgrade with Jason's now talking about [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► iOS laptops and since then or maybe [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► before that I remember Jason is written [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► a couple of articles about it [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► the teachers talked about it forever and [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► it's come up again and so you know maybe [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► the answer isn't in adorable 20 hours of [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► battery life maybe the answer is an iOS [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► laptop which is another thing that [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► people are climbing for and as I said an [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► upgrade Apple should totally make one [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► because it is a known proven form factor [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► and some people really like iOS and I [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► can see you getting 20 hours of battery [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► life from an iOS laptop so if you're not [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► gonna do it with the actual adorable to [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► my case you happen do the iOS laptop [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► thing I think the iOS type of thing is [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► is a thing that they should do I don't [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► know how good end up being but I know a [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► lot of people who would buy them I would [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► probably buy one i I've had ever since [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► the 9.7 Pro came out I've used I have [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► dramatically increased my iPad usage [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► because I got it with the smart Keyboard [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► and the smart keyboard cover it [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► transforms an iPad for a lot of people [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► and I'm one of them and I'm I know Matt [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► the only woman it and it's pretty much [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► always in it I I never take it out of [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► that cover I do occasionally like if I'm [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► gonna be sitting on the couch for a [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► while I will occasionally fold the [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► keyboard behind it but I'm not even [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► detaching it it's I consider that [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► keyboard part of my iPad so if we had [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► basically what tablet PCs offered like [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► 15 years ago [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► which was the convertible form factor [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► where it looked like a laptop except the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► hinge you could rotate the screen [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► like all the way around and then flip it [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► back to fold it back on itself [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► you know PC makers still make laptops [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► like this like this is still a thing you [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► can get that some version of that as an [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► iPad that had a permanently attached [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► keyboard that was a really good keyboard [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► that and then the whole thing could be [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► shaped and weighted the way a laptop is [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► shaped and waited and had a lot of [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► benefits there that would be an amazing [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► device for a lot of people and this is [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► not to say that all iPads should become [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► laptops obviously that's not true [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► but what we've seen with the the like [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► stopping the fall of iPad sales and [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► starting to have some growth again in [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► the last you know few quarters I think [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► that's directly attributable to two big [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► changes in the iPad line number one that [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► awesome new cheap 329 iPad that's a big [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► thing and then number two the iPad pro [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► finally giving a lot of high-end and [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► business users what they've been begging [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► for for the iPad since day one and like [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► I made this tweet abettor that was kind [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► of you know quick on this point but it's [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► like the history of the iPad has has [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► been like you know Apple said Apple [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► tries something they say we don't we [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► don't need legacy thing X Y or Z and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► then customers like I don't know III [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► think you do need that and apples not [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► trust us you don't need it and sometimes [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► they're right a lot and that's why I [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► think they they make that bet so often [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► and the and they're so stubborn on its [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► for so long most of the time because a [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► lot of times they are right about that [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► but sometimes they're not and like you [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► know if when you have like a pretty [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► decent sized portion of your customer [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► base like hacking keyboards onto iPads [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► in weird ways in these like you know [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► crappy like cases and brackets and [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► things eventually you're like okay well [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► let's actually just make the iPad do [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► this well and we will we will make the [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► iPad support a better the same way like [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► the iPad one didn't have any support in [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► the hardware for a case and that's where [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► the iPad one case was that horrible like [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► vinyl pocket thing that was a disaster [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► because the like there was no good way [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► to a tat to attach a case to an iPad [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► the ipad2 they realize oh everyone is [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► attaching cases to this so we'll build [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► in the magnets to have this you know [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► magnet connector on the side and that [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► that can support the case over time you [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► know these needs expand eventually we [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► get where we are with the iPad pro now [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► where we have the smart connector we [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► have a nice easy way to attach keyboards [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that dealing with Bluetooth or batteries [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► or anything and an apple makes this nice [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► one it really hasn't panned out that [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► much in the in the sense that nobody [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► else really makes anything for the smart [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► connector but Apple does at least and so [TS]