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00:00:00 ◼   ► did you buy an iMac Pro why do you ask

00:00:03 ◼   ► like I just want to know I did buy an

00:00:05 ◼   ► iMac Pro hey isn't it right now no I'm

00:00:08 ◼   ► not

00:00:09 ◼   ► oh I'm not using it right now do you

00:00:11 ◼   ► have it I do have it okay it's a

00:00:14 ◼   ► complicated story Mike have you ever

00:00:17 ◼   ► used it I can't that way you would put

00:00:20 ◼   ► it cuz I assume you're at home right now

00:00:23 ◼   ► I mean you never know where I am when

00:00:25 ◼   ► I'm recording like I never really know

00:00:27 ◼   ► where you are that is true I am often

00:00:30 ◼   ► surprised wherever you are we have a

00:00:32 ◼   ► topic that will lead into this in some

00:00:35 ◼   ► sense but now I do have an iMac Pro I

00:00:37 ◼   ► have used the iMac Pro I am in London

00:00:41 ◼   ► recording with you but I am not

00:00:44 ◼   ► currently using that I Mac Pro so it is

00:00:47 ◼   ► it is elsewhere at this moment do you

00:00:49 ◼   ► like pretty great okay pretty great okay

00:00:53 ◼   ► it is nice to have a computer that's

00:00:57 ◼   ► super fast and it's also nice too

00:01:02 ◼   ► because when we were in that valley of

00:01:04 ◼   ► darkness with Apple for a while I had

00:01:06 ◼   ► this feeling of like Oh Apple let me

00:01:08 ◼   ► just throw some money at you so I can

00:01:10 ◼   ► get a faster computer like just you name

00:01:12 ◼   ► a number and I'll write you a check

00:01:14 ◼   ► Apple I just need a faster computer and

00:01:15 ◼   ► it is nice that now with the iMac Pro in

00:01:19 ◼   ► a way Apple has called the bluff unlike

00:01:21 ◼   ► just write a check because it's like

00:01:22 ◼   ► Apple can ask for a check that I am not

00:01:25 ◼   ► willing to write you know it's it's

00:01:27 ◼   ► really nice that there exists a computer

00:01:29 ◼   ► where you have to make decisions about

00:01:31 ◼   ► like what is it that you actually want

00:01:33 ◼   ► out of this machine because it means

00:01:35 ◼   ► that the theoretical maximum computing

00:01:38 ◼   ► threshold is beyond you it's not where

00:01:42 ◼   ► you currently are right now like I

00:01:44 ◼   ► really hated that feeling of I have the

00:01:47 ◼   ► fastest computer there's no faster

00:01:48 ◼   ► computer that I can possibly buy and

00:01:50 ◼   ► it's not fast enough so yeah my pro is

00:01:53 ◼   ► is very fast there are some crazy

00:01:56 ◼   ► configurations out there that make it

00:01:58 ◼   ► super expensive I did not go for the

00:02:01 ◼   ► super crazy expensive

00:02:03 ◼   ► I might pro configurations but I got a

00:02:06 ◼   ► good one and it is very impressive I

00:02:10 ◼   ► really like it and of course

00:02:13 ◼   ► when you get a new computer how do you

00:02:15 ◼   ► test it out well you gotta load up a

00:02:18 ◼   ► game and see how the game plays and so

00:02:20 ◼   ► of course as soon as the computer was

00:02:23 ◼   ► set up the very first thing that I put

00:02:26 ◼   ► on it was American Truck Simulator so I

00:02:29 ◼   ► could get a real sense of how was how

00:02:31 ◼   ► did it run did it run good

00:02:33 ◼   ► it was beautiful Mike oh yeah this it

00:02:36 ◼   ► was absolutely beautiful so I was just

00:02:38 ◼   ► thinking about like what do you what do

00:02:40 ◼   ► you use it for I like what what is your

00:02:42 ◼   ► use for such a powerful machine and I

00:02:44 ◼   ► was gonna make a joke about like what

00:02:47 ◼   ► are you some kind of pro video producer

00:02:49 ◼   ► having completely forgot that you make

00:02:51 ◼   ► youtube videos was like what do you need

00:02:55 ◼   ► it for you just edit podcasts what are

00:02:58 ◼   ► you and you don't even do all the

00:02:59 ◼   ► editing though what do you need it for

00:03:01 ◼   ► seriously I was gonna make a joke about

00:03:04 ◼   ► you being mkbhd or something making

00:03:06 ◼   ► YouTube videos turns out you do make

00:03:09 ◼   ► youtube videos so I understand what you

00:03:11 ◼   ► might want it because I assign oh that

00:03:13 ◼   ► like a lot of the stuff that you're

00:03:15 ◼   ► doing video you can always throw more

00:03:17 ◼   ► power at it right and I I would assume

00:03:19 ◼   ► that's why one of the reasons you bought

00:03:21 ◼   ► the machine was because it can just make

00:03:23 ◼   ► your video process a lot nicer because

00:03:25 ◼   ► it turns out you do make those YouTube

00:03:26 ◼   ► videos yeah I do I do make youtube

00:03:29 ◼   ► videos there are a number of it's easy

00:03:31 ◼   ► it's easy to forget I mean there are so

00:03:33 ◼   ► many things that I do Mike yeah yeah my

00:03:36 ◼   ► professional biography is long very long

00:03:38 ◼   ► includes very many full of projects of

00:03:41 ◼   ► secret and public nature yeah many

00:03:44 ◼   ► things but faster computer is great and

00:03:48 ◼   ► with YouTube videos and with lots of

00:03:50 ◼   ► other stuff the the increased power

00:03:52 ◼   ► makes a real difference even for things

00:03:55 ◼   ► just like if I'm making the the YouTube

00:03:58 ◼   ► videos for podcasts that are being

00:04:00 ◼   ► uploaded like you're uploading a two and

00:04:02 ◼   ► a half hour video like exporting that

00:04:05 ◼   ► kind of thing takes a long time it takes

00:04:06 ◼   ► a very long time

00:04:07 ◼   ► I am always surprised at one how long it

00:04:11 ◼   ► is and to how big the files are when

00:04:13 ◼   ► it's just like a static image and two

00:04:16 ◼   ► hours of audio it's like oh here's here

00:04:20 ◼   ► is a nine gigabyte file oh uh final cut

00:04:24 ◼   ► what are you doing but I guess yeah

00:04:25 ◼   ► that's it is what is what

00:04:27 ◼   ► it is right yeah it is it is what it is

00:04:30 ◼   ► but I've got to say it's it's really

00:04:33 ◼   ► it's really impressive machine and it

00:04:35 ◼   ► does for an American Truck Simulator

00:04:36 ◼   ► pretty great on there I put on a little

00:04:39 ◼   ► steam overlay to see how many frames per

00:04:41 ◼   ► second I was getting and it was very

00:04:42 ◼   ► impressive but on a on a more practical

00:04:44 ◼   ► level I loaded up one of the one of the

00:04:48 ◼   ► files I've made reference to a few times

00:04:50 ◼   ► on the show like these multi terabyte

00:04:51 ◼   ► Final Cut Pro projects that I have and

00:04:56 ◼   ► the thing that I wanted to so Final Cut

00:04:58 ◼   ► has this feature where it does

00:05:00 ◼   ► background rendering when you open up a

00:05:02 ◼   ► project and that is always a thing that

00:05:05 ◼   ► takes absolutely forever but Final Cut

00:05:08 ◼   ► has been updated to take advantage of

00:05:10 ◼   ► multi-core machines and so I uploaded

00:05:13 ◼   ► the biggest final cut project I could

00:05:15 ◼   ► find on my computer and I just wanted to

00:05:17 ◼   ► see how it handled it and it was just

00:05:20 ◼   ► astounding to see these multiple cores

00:05:23 ◼   ► just tear through the background

00:05:25 ◼   ► rendering like it was nothing

00:05:27 ◼   ► whoa this is this is really impressive

00:05:31 ◼   ► and it is one of these cases where the

00:05:33 ◼   ► machine makes you very aware of what

00:05:36 ◼   ► programs take advantage of multiple

00:05:39 ◼   ► cores and what programs do not take

00:05:41 ◼   ► advantage of multiple cores because the

00:05:43 ◼   ► things that have been written to take

00:05:44 ◼   ► advantage of multiple cores it's just

00:05:47 ◼   ► it's such an incredible increase in

00:05:49 ◼   ► speed that it's it's really just

00:05:52 ◼   ► fantastic so I love the machine it is

00:05:55 ◼   ► great I'm glad that Apple has made a

00:05:57 ◼   ► like a real top-end computer again so

00:06:00 ◼   ► I'm I'm really pleased with it and it

00:06:02 ◼   ► comes in space grey mm-hmm it looks

00:06:04 ◼   ► great looks looks great no more stupid

00:06:07 ◼   ► aluminum well he's still aluminum or

00:06:10 ◼   ► aluminium yeah yeah for that the

00:06:12 ◼   ► aluminum color wash I can't believe I

00:06:14 ◼   ► said that it's like you spend too much

00:06:17 ◼   ► time podcasting Americans yeah I presume

00:06:24 ◼   ► that you are not going to get one of the

00:06:26 ◼   ► iMac pros I don't need it I don't I

00:06:28 ◼   ► don't need it and I don't particularly

00:06:30 ◼   ► want it it's more computer than I

00:06:34 ◼   ► require for what I'm doing it would make

00:06:37 ◼   ► some things quicker but honestly I don't

00:06:39 ◼   ► do a lot

00:06:40 ◼   ► that stuff very often like noise removal

00:06:44 ◼   ► and they're like some of the most

00:06:46 ◼   ► intensive tasks that you can do in audio

00:06:47 ◼   ► editing is like doing something to

00:06:49 ◼   ► improve the quality of the audio but by

00:06:52 ◼   ► and large the majority of people that I

00:06:54 ◼   ► record with are in stable environments

00:06:57 ◼   ► that don't really require a lot of work

00:06:59 ◼   ► to be done to them so honestly I'm good

00:07:03 ◼   ► and all of my wait time my workflow is

00:07:06 ◼   ► pretty optimized at this point so that

00:07:08 ◼   ► if I'm waiting for something to export

00:07:10 ◼   ► I'm doing something else I cannot

00:07:12 ◼   ► twiddling my thumb's I've got um you

00:07:15 ◼   ► know I published so many podcasts now

00:07:17 ◼   ► that I have my routine and I'm never

00:07:21 ◼   ► sitting I'm waiting for my iMac to do

00:07:23 ◼   ► something yeah so the iMac Pro doesn't

00:07:26 ◼   ► make sense to me I am personally holding

00:07:29 ◼   ► out to see whatever the Mac Pro looks

00:07:31 ◼   ► like the the purpose of buying a machine

00:07:36 ◼   ► that will last me 10 years if the Mac

00:07:39 ◼   ► Pro is as modular as I hope it's going

00:07:42 ◼   ► to be that it will truly be able to

00:07:44 ◼   ► replace and upgrade parts over a long

00:07:46 ◼   ► period of time if that seems like that

00:07:48 ◼   ► is a possibility that maybe the next

00:07:50 ◼   ► machine that I buy

00:07:52 ◼   ► I'm just less interested in exciting

00:07:56 ◼   ► Mac's now right like Mike of like five

00:07:59 ◼   ► years ago probably would have bought the

00:08:01 ◼   ► iMac Pro because it's the newest and

00:08:03 ◼   ► most exciting Mac I don't really have

00:08:05 ◼   ► that feeling anymore it's you know

00:08:07 ◼   ► obviously the iOS is where my excitement

00:08:09 ◼   ► is so I am keen to own a machine that I

00:08:13 ◼   ► can upgrade over a long period of time

00:08:17 ◼   ► for a smaller amount of money than

00:08:19 ◼   ► buying a new computer every three years

00:08:21 ◼   ► to try and keep up with the latest and

00:08:23 ◼   ► greatest so that that's kind of where my

00:08:25 ◼   ► attention is a little bit more now as

00:08:27 ◼   ► exceeding what the Mac Pro looks like

00:08:29 ◼   ► but I have no I have no desire need to

00:08:33 ◼   ► do anything about my Mac setup right now

00:08:37 ◼   ► because I have an iMac 5k which I've had

00:08:39 ◼   ► for like maybe I eighteen months or

00:08:41 ◼   ► something like that and it feels as fast

00:08:45 ◼   ► to me as today I bought it like I have

00:08:46 ◼   ► no problem with this machine this

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00:10:52 ◼   ► want to know where the I might pro is

00:10:54 ◼   ► and this this gets us this gets us

00:10:57 ◼   ► straight to the heart of the first topic

00:11:00 ◼   ► that I wanted to talk about I'm kind of

00:11:02 ◼   ► chose I wanted to give a little bit of

00:11:05 ◼   ► an update on the year

00:11:07 ◼   ► of order and how that's going you need

00:11:10 ◼   ► to put more I feel like I need to add a

00:11:12 ◼   ► sound effect every time you say it like

00:11:15 ◼   ► no clack or like you know like modulate

00:11:19 ◼   ► the voice a little bit just leave it

00:11:21 ◼   ► just like I've no need for that I think

00:11:24 ◼   ► I think people can hear like the capital

00:11:26 ◼   ► o in order I think that I think that

00:11:28 ◼   ► comes across they can hear that in their

00:11:29 ◼   ► mouth there's no need for it of course

00:11:31 ◼   ► there's no need for it

00:11:33 ◼   ► you know yeah so so I haven't I have an

00:11:39 ◼   ► idea with the show this year to check in

00:11:43 ◼   ► a little bit more regularly about what's

00:11:45 ◼   ► going on with the year of order and that

00:11:48 ◼   ► partly because I was really aware last

00:11:50 ◼   ► year that we didn't touch in very often

00:11:53 ◼   ► on what was going with the year of

00:11:54 ◼   ► redirection slash chaos and that was

00:11:58 ◼   ► partly because a lot of the things that

00:11:59 ◼   ► were going on there it didn't make sense

00:12:00 ◼   ► to talk about on the podcast chaos I

00:12:02 ◼   ► mean how do you check in on chaos yeah

00:12:04 ◼   ► and that was the other thing it was

00:12:06 ◼   ► chaos it would have been very hard at

00:12:08 ◼   ► any particular point to have a

00:12:10 ◼   ► meaningful conversation about what was

00:12:12 ◼   ► going on during that because there's

00:12:13 ◼   ► like it just was just less structured

00:12:15 ◼   ► but the year of order that lends itself

00:12:17 ◼   ► to that yeah I think we spent more time

00:12:19 ◼   ► talking about my year theme right

00:12:21 ◼   ► because yeah there was stuff going on

00:12:24 ◼   ► like hiring people yeah it made more

00:12:26 ◼   ► sense handing over tasks right there

00:12:28 ◼   ► were things that I could kind of point

00:12:30 ◼   ► to as a thing to make a difference in my

00:12:32 ◼   ► year where yours was a little bit more

00:12:34 ◼   ► ad hoc I think yeah it was going yeah

00:12:36 ◼   ► without a doubt

00:12:37 ◼   ► and so I so so I like the idea of

00:12:40 ◼   ► checking in more regularly I also like

00:12:41 ◼   ► the idea that to go along with the theme

00:12:43 ◼   ► itself knowing that we'll check in

00:12:45 ◼   ► regularly on the podcast is a kind of

00:12:47 ◼   ► structure and structures belong in the

00:12:49 ◼   ► year of order would you say a structure

00:12:52 ◼   ► is kind of like a schedule it's kind of

00:12:55 ◼   ► like a schedule but schedules are a

00:12:58 ◼   ► different sort of thing Mike I don't

00:12:59 ◼   ► like schedule is like structure

00:13:01 ◼   ► structure I like shed structure teen

00:13:04 ◼   ► these are good things

00:13:06 ◼   ► routine schedules deadlines know thumbs

00:13:11 ◼   ► down routine yes it's a highly different

00:13:14 ◼   ► like I like jus dates no deadlines

00:13:19 ◼   ► yeah it's subtle you know there's like

00:13:22 ◼   ► it's like a subtle difference of flavor

00:13:24 ◼   ► but it's there you know and it when

00:13:25 ◼   ► you're really highly attuned to these

00:13:27 ◼   ► sorts of things so so here's an idea for

00:13:30 ◼   ► this this first check-in which is I have

00:13:35 ◼   ► I have this real feeling like the year

00:13:36 ◼   ► of order is going to be a very big

00:13:39 ◼   ► intensive long project because there's a

00:13:41 ◼   ► lot of stuff that I want to do and I'm

00:13:44 ◼   ► already sort of breaking it down and the

00:13:47 ◼   ► first the first part of this that I

00:13:51 ◼   ► realized works out really well in in the

00:13:53 ◼   ► beginning of the year for a bunch of

00:13:56 ◼   ► things is the idea of setting up my

00:14:01 ◼   ► physical space that there's a lot when I

00:14:06 ◼   ► think about like how do I work what are

00:14:08 ◼   ► the environments in which I work that

00:14:10 ◼   ► over the last year again we're sort of

00:14:12 ◼   ► thrown into chaos for a variety of

00:14:14 ◼   ► reasons and because of because of a

00:14:21 ◼   ► bunch of my thoughts about like the ways

00:14:22 ◼   ► people work or how people can work

00:14:24 ◼   ► effectively I really think that the

00:14:27 ◼   ► environment in which you work is this

00:14:30 ◼   ► real foundation upon which everything

00:14:35 ◼   ► else rests and so here I mean the

00:14:37 ◼   ► physical environment that you are in so

00:14:41 ◼   ► I've decided that this is as the winter

00:14:44 ◼   ► season draws to a close this is my my

00:14:47 ◼   ► focus like before winter ends I want to

00:14:50 ◼   ► have redone the physical spaces in which

00:14:54 ◼   ► I work so this is this is like project

00:14:57 ◼   ► one for the year of order and it happens

00:15:00 ◼   ► to work out well that this is the first

00:15:01 ◼   ► thing that I want to do because while

00:15:02 ◼   ► ultimately I want to be really back into

00:15:05 ◼   ► a like a solid working routine there's

00:15:08 ◼   ► still some stuff in my life right now

00:15:10 ◼   ► that's like leftover from the previous

00:15:12 ◼   ► year of redirects and slash chaos that's

00:15:14 ◼   ► going to be with me for a while so it's

00:15:16 ◼   ► like I can't start on the really heavy

00:15:18 ◼   ► routine stuff just yet so I'm going to

00:15:20 ◼   ► be working on this foundational part as

00:15:23 ◼   ► at the beginning so which physical space

00:15:26 ◼   ► are we talking which of your many

00:15:28 ◼   ► offices are we talking about here

00:15:32 ◼   ► or all of them okay Mike I have a

00:15:34 ◼   ► diagram for you I'm gonna sell you a

00:15:36 ◼   ► little diagram take a look at okay okay

00:15:38 ◼   ► oh my this is very messy yeah just to be

00:15:44 ◼   ► clear and I'm happy to put this in the

00:15:47 ◼   ► show notes just yesterday I was having a

00:15:51 ◼   ► multiple flights in the same day day

00:15:54 ◼   ► which is always great what many more

00:15:57 ◼   ► travel racking up those airline miles

00:15:58 ◼   ► you know keep my golden ticket just as

00:16:07 ◼   ► fun so while I was on the flight I was

00:16:09 ◼   ► trying to I was trying to use that time

00:16:11 ◼   ► well cuz like airplane timers is a

00:16:13 ◼   ► strange time and one of the things that

00:16:16 ◼   ► I do find is useful to do with that time

00:16:19 ◼   ► is thinking about stuff on a like a

00:16:21 ◼   ► higher level or just brainstorming or

00:16:24 ◼   ► doing those sorts of things so what I

00:16:26 ◼   ► did was I brought my iPad with me on the

00:16:28 ◼   ► trip and opened up good old good notes

00:16:30 ◼   ► and what I decided to do was a thing

00:16:34 ◼   ► that I had mentioned I think related to

00:16:36 ◼   ► one of the ask cortex questions last

00:16:37 ◼   ► time which was I started to draw out

00:16:42 ◼   ► what are the different devices in my

00:16:44 ◼   ► life and what do I want to use them for

00:16:47 ◼   ► and then this this ended up becoming

00:16:49 ◼   ► much more along the ideas of okay how am

00:16:53 ◼   ► I going to set up the physical spaces in

00:16:57 ◼   ► my life so there's there's two things in

00:17:00 ◼   ► this in this very messy diagram but I

00:17:02 ◼   ► have the idea of there are some devices

00:17:06 ◼   ► so it's like I have my iPhone I have the

00:17:10 ◼   ► new iMac Pro I have a laptop I have

00:17:13 ◼   ► iPads like I have machines like what are

00:17:16 ◼   ► what are each of these machines for and

00:17:18 ◼   ► then also trying to overlap that with

00:17:21 ◼   ► the idea of I have different physical

00:17:25 ◼   ► spaces in which I can be which devices

00:17:28 ◼   ► belong where right which devices go

00:17:32 ◼   ► where so the the main thing here is I

00:17:36 ◼   ► feel like there's three spaces I have a

00:17:39 ◼   ► home office which is where I am right

00:17:42 ◼   ► now in my apartment I have the glass

00:17:45 ◼   ► cube

00:17:46 ◼   ► that we have discussed previously which

00:17:48 ◼   ► is in a separate building from where I

00:17:50 ◼   ► am now and then I think of it doesn't

00:17:54 ◼   ► quite make sense maybe to people but I

00:17:56 ◼   ► do think of my phone as a kind of

00:18:01 ◼   ► omnipresent space that that this is a

00:18:04 ◼   ► device and a space that is just with me

00:18:07 ◼   ► all of the time wherever I am so it has

00:18:10 ◼   ► it has like overlap with other areas so

00:18:13 ◼   ► this is this is the division like

00:18:15 ◼   ► thinking about how is my phone going to

00:18:17 ◼   ► work and then thinking about what is

00:18:20 ◼   ► going to happen in my home office what

00:18:23 ◼   ► is going to happen in the glass cube and

00:18:26 ◼   ► then also in the in and because I was on

00:18:29 ◼   ► a plane thinking about since my travel

00:18:32 ◼   ► does not seem to be decreasing over the

00:18:34 ◼   ► next year thinking a little bit about

00:18:37 ◼   ► what does my mobile working space look

00:18:41 ◼   ► like and trying to draw out what devices

00:18:44 ◼   ► do what where how does this diagram look

00:18:48 ◼   ► to you Mike I have a lot of questions

00:18:49 ◼   ► about this diagram okay why don't you

00:18:52 ◼   ► start with some questions because

00:18:54 ◼   ► otherwise I will just talk forever in a

00:18:56 ◼   ► vague way so let me know what is

00:18:58 ◼   ► confusing to you about this diagram yeah

00:19:00 ◼   ► I want to go down from the top so we

00:19:02 ◼   ► have the phone morning and afternoon are

00:19:05 ◼   ► they the same device just wanted to stop

00:19:07 ◼   ► a check they paid to different devices

00:19:08 ◼   ► yes I have one phone one phone using my

00:19:11 ◼   ► iPhone okay but I made I made a little

00:19:15 ◼   ► division about the device is different

00:19:17 ◼   ► in the morning and it's different in the

00:19:20 ◼   ► afternoon about what what should it do

00:19:23 ◼   ► or what should I be doing right device

00:19:25 ◼   ► at these times but there isn't anything

00:19:27 ◼   ► that you're doing to really restrict

00:19:29 ◼   ► what the device does right because you

00:19:31 ◼   ► kind of can't do that this is more of a

00:19:33 ◼   ► mental thing there's two parts here it

00:19:35 ◼   ► is a bit of a mental thing because

00:19:37 ◼   ► Apple's notification system is terrible

00:19:40 ◼   ► and is not very good compared to the

00:19:43 ◼   ► competition but there is a physical

00:19:44 ◼   ► thing that is happening that I'm still

00:19:46 ◼   ► using the system we've discussed before

00:19:47 ◼   ► where I have two different Apple watches

00:19:49 ◼   ► and this is my way that's what the s2

00:19:52 ◼   ► and the s3 is that's that's Mike that

00:19:54 ◼   ► was my next question

00:19:55 ◼   ► yeah as Apple watch series two and apple

00:19:57 ◼   ► watch series three okay

00:19:59 ◼   ► correct that you can you can with two

00:20:01 ◼   ► watches kind of fake door trick the

00:20:06 ◼   ► iPhone into having different sorts of

00:20:08 ◼   ► behaviors because you can turn on

00:20:09 ◼   ► different notifications for different

00:20:11 ◼   ► applications on each watch independently

00:20:14 ◼   ► right right that that's correct so the

00:20:16 ◼   ► idea is in the morning with my series to

00:20:20 ◼   ► watch the only kinds of notifications

00:20:22 ◼   ► that we'll get through our notifications

00:20:24 ◼   ► from myself to myself so these are

00:20:29 ◼   ► things like I have started a timer and I

00:20:31 ◼   ► want a notification about when that

00:20:32 ◼   ► timer ends or if there's a calendar

00:20:35 ◼   ► event that I put on the calendar

00:20:36 ◼   ► previously that I will have forgotten

00:20:37 ◼   ► about in that morning or things like

00:20:40 ◼   ► alerts from task managers right those

00:20:42 ◼   ► are the only sorts of things that should

00:20:45 ◼   ► get through the device through my phone

00:20:49 ◼   ► in the morning and the only way I can do

00:20:51 ◼   ► it is to say that the phone is totally

00:20:54 ◼   ► silent the phone does no notifications

00:20:56 ◼   ► but the series to watch is configured to

00:20:59 ◼   ► just allow notifications from those

00:21:03 ◼   ► three classes of device okay and then I

00:21:07 ◼   ► can see the afternoon is when you allow

00:21:10 ◼   ► people to contact you you've got

00:21:12 ◼   ► iMessage and slack but still no email

00:21:16 ◼   ► outgoing email only is yeah I get that I

00:21:19 ◼   ► get that I underst I'm een sure I

00:21:21 ◼   ► couldn't work on would never work that

00:21:23 ◼   ► way but I know that you have in the past

00:21:24 ◼   ► so I understand I get that I can't get

00:21:26 ◼   ► what's going on here your business I

00:21:28 ◼   ► think many people's businesses would

00:21:30 ◼   ► totally fall apart without more frequent

00:21:32 ◼   ► contact with email yeah but but yeah

00:21:34 ◼   ► with for me by far and away the two

00:21:37 ◼   ► biggest things that disrupt my life but

00:21:40 ◼   ► that I still do need to pay attention to

00:21:42 ◼   ► are iMessage and slack and and those are

00:21:45 ◼   ► the things where it's like man if I get

00:21:47 ◼   ► a like a slack message in the morning it

00:21:49 ◼   ► can really derail the day where I start

00:21:51 ◼   ► thinking about a thing that doesn't

00:21:53 ◼   ► really need to be thought about now but

00:21:55 ◼   ► so in the afternoon when I swap watches

00:21:59 ◼   ► then the messages from my message and

00:22:02 ◼   ► slack can get through and it is just it

00:22:05 ◼   ► is simply I did try for a little while

00:22:08 ◼   ► to do not even have slack on my phone

00:22:10 ◼   ► but it it's that cross

00:22:12 ◼   ► a line of like the convenience of having

00:22:16 ◼   ► all of my business related messaging on

00:22:19 ◼   ► the phone is just too great to remove it

00:22:22 ◼   ► from the phone because removing it from

00:22:24 ◼   ► the phone then turns me into an

00:22:26 ◼   ► incredible bottleneck where lots of

00:22:30 ◼   ► things that just require my approval or

00:22:33 ◼   ► like one one sentence of input like then

00:22:35 ◼   ► this suddenly becomes a multi-day

00:22:37 ◼   ► process about like when have I opened up

00:22:39 ◼   ► slack on my computer so I I have it as

00:22:42 ◼   ► this case it's like in the afternoons

00:22:44 ◼   ► that's what I'm gonna get notifications

00:22:46 ◼   ► from my message and from slack and I'm

00:22:48 ◼   ► managing that by swapping out the

00:22:50 ◼   ► watch's slack is too important like you

00:22:53 ◼   ► make it that right like you know I have

00:22:56 ◼   ► I know you have we spoke about it in the

00:22:57 ◼   ► past right you end up eventually because

00:22:59 ◼   ► you think it's great right like it's

00:23:01 ◼   ► great it's a great system you end up

00:23:02 ◼   ► putting too much stuff into it and

00:23:04 ◼   ► therefore you make it too important and

00:23:05 ◼   ► you've just moved the stuff it's still

00:23:07 ◼   ► better than email but it's it still just

00:23:10 ◼   ► becomes a big bucket of responsibilities

00:23:14 ◼   ► yeah I definitely still have cooked very

00:23:16 ◼   ► conflicted feelings about slack in a way

00:23:18 ◼   ► that I didn't when I first started it

00:23:19 ◼   ► but the big difference there is like for

00:23:22 ◼   ► for my company slack and the slacks of

00:23:25 ◼   ► other companies that I'm involved with

00:23:26 ◼   ► they are fundamentally there's still

00:23:30 ◼   ► invitation-only systems so unlike email

00:23:34 ◼   ► where anybody in the whole world sending

00:23:37 ◼   ► messages and like stuff can come in from

00:23:39 ◼   ► all over the place

00:23:40 ◼   ► sure slack is still kind of an

00:23:43 ◼   ► overwhelming mess but at least it has a

00:23:45 ◼   ► clearly defined perimeter it's like

00:23:48 ◼   ► people you know you want to hear from

00:23:50 ◼   ► before you've heard from them exactly

00:23:52 ◼   ► yeah that that's that's what's happening

00:23:54 ◼   ► there and it is also again like a

00:23:56 ◼   ► limited a more limited section of people

00:23:59 ◼   ► I have frequent work contact with as

00:24:01 ◼   ► well whereas as email is just it's just

00:24:04 ◼   ► too expansive and so yeah as as you can

00:24:07 ◼   ► see from my note there I do have it set

00:24:09 ◼   ► up on my phone I have a special email

00:24:11 ◼   ► account that just allows me to send

00:24:13 ◼   ► messages out if for some reason I need

00:24:15 ◼   ► to send a message from my phone

00:24:16 ◼   ► it's a gmail account that I set up and

00:24:18 ◼   ► all that gmail account has is a single

00:24:20 ◼   ► rule that all messages it receives it

00:24:24 ◼   ► forwards on to my real

00:24:26 ◼   ► lecounte so I can deal with them at like

00:24:28 ◼   ► a right my desktop computer but I can

00:24:30 ◼   ► still send a message from an email

00:24:33 ◼   ► address that's like gray is just using

00:24:35 ◼   ► his phone and won't actually be able to

00:24:38 ◼   ► reply from this email address at

00:24:40 ◼   ► gmail.com right like that's the answer

00:24:42 ◼   ► and I'm assuming that there is a very

00:24:45 ◼   ► limited amount of people that get email

00:24:46 ◼   ► from that account just by the nature of

00:24:48 ◼   ► its the way it's set up right I use it

00:24:52 ◼   ► more than you might think but it's still

00:24:53 ◼   ► not a lot I mean I imagine you using it

00:24:56 ◼   ► a lot but I can't imagine it is a very

00:24:58 ◼   ► large group of people because yeah you

00:25:01 ◼   ► don't know if you don't see what's

00:25:02 ◼   ► coming in you don't know why you would

00:25:04 ◼   ► need to contact someone so it's just

00:25:05 ◼   ► something that pops into your head I

00:25:06 ◼   ► would assume most of the time yeah what

00:25:08 ◼   ► usually happens is exactly that a thing

00:25:10 ◼   ► that pops into my head that I want to

00:25:12 ◼   ► tell a person who is not in one of the

00:25:16 ◼   ► slacks that I manage right like that's

00:25:18 ◼   ► that's usually the the use case there

00:25:20 ◼   ► and sounds like okay now I need to send

00:25:21 ◼   ► an outgoing message to a person that I

00:25:23 ◼   ► would not invite into the gray company

00:25:26 ◼   ► slack because it doesn't make any sense

00:25:27 ◼   ► because they're not actually involved in

00:25:29 ◼   ► the company but I still need to send

00:25:30 ◼   ► them a message so that's that's the way

00:25:32 ◼   ► that works and and like I said what I

00:25:34 ◼   ► what I'm trying to manage here is this

00:25:36 ◼   ► idea that the phone is with me all the

00:25:39 ◼   ► time yeah and so it is a kind of

00:25:42 ◼   ► environment and what I'm really trying

00:25:44 ◼   ► to optimize for here is the phone should

00:25:48 ◼   ► be as minimally disruptive as possible

00:25:51 ◼   ► and I have but part of all I was on fire

00:25:55 ◼   ► gray industries corporate retreat for

00:25:57 ◼   ► one I was doing some of the pre work for

00:25:59 ◼   ► this I really went through my phone

00:26:01 ◼   ► again and just uninstalled absolutely

00:26:04 ◼   ► everything I could think of that wasn't

00:26:07 ◼   ► totally vital no interesting I feel like

00:26:10 ◼   ► I feel like I want to see that that's

00:26:14 ◼   ► can I find it so interesting just how

00:26:19 ◼   ► many apps are still on my phone when

00:26:23 ◼   ► this comes up with people I find it

00:26:24 ◼   ► interesting that it's like if we do

00:26:25 ◼   ► phone comparisons I'm often like the

00:26:27 ◼   ► weird I'm like a weird Luddite with the

00:26:30 ◼   ► way I used my phone where it seems like

00:26:32 ◼   ► it's so limited but then at the same

00:26:34 ◼   ► time there's still something like a

00:26:35 ◼   ► hundred apps on my phone I just think

00:26:38 ◼   ► it's an interesting

00:26:40 ◼   ► it's like an interesting commentary on

00:26:42 ◼   ► modern life how vital and important this

00:26:44 ◼   ► piece of technology is and that even

00:26:47 ◼   ► what most people would regard as crazy

00:26:48 ◼   ► bear minimal use is still still covers

00:26:52 ◼   ► an incredible range of possible

00:26:55 ◼   ► activities so I just I just find that

00:26:57 ◼   ► it's like an interesting commentary on

00:26:59 ◼   ► the modern world the largest section of

00:27:02 ◼   ► this diagram is contained within the

00:27:08 ◼   ► glass cube so I am naturally assuming

00:27:10 ◼   ► that you're out of home office is where

00:27:12 ◼   ► you're spending the majority of your

00:27:14 ◼   ► work time now okay Mike let's get into

00:27:17 ◼   ► this okay glass cube one of the things

00:27:21 ◼   ► that I decided to do as part of the year

00:27:23 ◼   ► of order was I have recently upgraded my

00:27:28 ◼   ► glass cube so I've gotten a a bigger

00:27:31 ◼   ► glass cube it's still the way to fix it

00:27:33 ◼   ► kidnapped it's still it's still a glass

00:27:37 ◼   ► cube it's still weird it still feels

00:27:39 ◼   ► somehow like I'm working at Facebook

00:27:41 ◼   ► during the day except with glass

00:27:44 ◼   ► barriers it's very strange but I got a

00:27:48 ◼   ► bigger space because of a bunch of

00:27:50 ◼   ► things that I thought I want to to do

00:27:52 ◼   ► with this space and I was trying to

00:27:54 ◼   ► think very intentionally about like okay

00:27:55 ◼   ► what am I gonna do here and what I have

00:27:59 ◼   ► decided is that the the thing that makes

00:28:03 ◼   ► the most sense is that the glass cube is

00:28:06 ◼   ► is going to be it's going to be like a

00:28:11 ◼   ► forge of creation that this is where the

00:28:14 ◼   ► kind of work that I do in this space is

00:28:17 ◼   ► going to be the creative work in in one

00:28:21 ◼   ► way or another so there's a bunch of

00:28:23 ◼   ► projects that prolate to this but one of

00:28:26 ◼   ► the main things that I've done is I have

00:28:29 ◼   ► taken one of my older computers and I

00:28:32 ◼   ► have turned it into a dedicated writing

00:28:36 ◼   ► station so the reason I got a bigger

00:28:38 ◼   ► glass cube is because I wanted to fit

00:28:40 ◼   ► not one but two desks into the space

00:28:44 ◼   ► because one of those desks is going to

00:28:48 ◼   ► be or I should say is because it's

00:28:50 ◼   ► already set up now it

00:28:51 ◼   ► is a standing desk that has a computer

00:28:55 ◼   ► that is only used for writing and I've

00:28:59 ◼   ► set it up sort of like the same idea

00:29:01 ◼   ► with the phone like I want to pare this

00:29:02 ◼   ► down to the minimum number of things

00:29:05 ◼   ► required that writing computer is only

00:29:09 ◼   ► going to have the three or four apps on

00:29:13 ◼   ► it that I need to actually do the

00:29:16 ◼   ► writing and it's gone so far as like the

00:29:18 ◼   ► account that I log in on that computer

00:29:20 ◼   ► it's not logged into iCloud I've set up

00:29:23 ◼   ► things that I can do everything through

00:29:24 ◼   ► Dropbox or separate thinking services so

00:29:27 ◼   ► it's like that account has nothing on it

00:29:30 ◼   ► really except Evernote and Ulysses as

00:29:34 ◼   ► the two main programs that I need it's

00:29:37 ◼   ► like here's research notes that I have

00:29:39 ◼   ► and then here's the main program that I

00:29:41 ◼   ► use for writing and so when I turn that

00:29:43 ◼   ► thing on it's like these are the only

00:29:45 ◼   ► apps that are here there's nothing else

00:29:47 ◼   ► for you when you're standing at this

00:29:49 ◼   ► desk this is what you're going to do end

00:29:52 ◼   ► of story

00:29:53 ◼   ► so that's that's part one of the glass

00:29:55 ◼   ► cube what is that computer that computer

00:29:58 ◼   ► is a 15-inch MacBook Pro that I've

00:30:02 ◼   ► connected to some external monitors so

00:30:06 ◼   ► that it's set up because it is what do

00:30:10 ◼   ► you mean of course it is did you think

00:30:13 ◼   ► it was going to be an iPad is that what

00:30:15 ◼   ► you were asking well it was forever

00:30:16 ◼   ► before and I don't know just like as a

00:30:19 ◼   ► machine that is single purpose with just

00:30:22 ◼   ► a couple of applications on that you can

00:30:25 ◼   ► exact an external keyboard to I don't

00:30:27 ◼   ► know whatever man whatever floats your

00:30:29 ◼   ► boat so I'll tell I'll tell you

00:30:31 ◼   ► something this is the sort of gets to a

00:30:32 ◼   ► little bit of the things that are later

00:30:34 ◼   ► on but one of the one of the like the

00:30:37 ◼   ► meta themes of the year of order when I

00:30:38 ◼   ► was trying to think about like setting

00:30:39 ◼   ► up these physical spaces is it's kind of

00:30:44 ◼   ► a funny thing that happened but a little

00:30:46 ◼   ► while ago I bought myself a new backpack

00:30:47 ◼   ► I was like wow look at this look at this

00:30:49 ◼   ► great backpack this thing is fantastic

00:30:51 ◼   ► and my backpack that I was using

00:30:55 ◼   ► previously was a little rundown I

00:30:57 ◼   ► thought yeah this needs a replacement

00:30:58 ◼   ► let me get a new one I need to save

00:31:00 ◼   ► future Mike okay

00:31:02 ◼   ► please tell me the name of the backpack

00:31:04 ◼   ► oh I don't know you can't just say like

00:31:07 ◼   ► I've got an amazing backpack and then

00:31:08 ◼   ► not then like you know me I'm just

00:31:11 ◼   ► wondering filming the questions right

00:31:14 ◼   ► like what's the backpack is it a link to

00:31:16 ◼   ► the backpack I need to see the backpack

00:31:19 ◼   ► it must have a name on it it must it

00:31:22 ◼   ► must be a label something somewhere I've

00:31:25 ◼   ► got it I've got it right here

00:31:28 ◼   ► just look like there's a label I mean

00:31:31 ◼   ► there's got to be something where did

00:31:35 ◼   ► you get the backpack I don't know why

00:31:38 ◼   ► would I remember where I got it did you

00:31:40 ◼   ► buy it in a physical say like if did you

00:31:42 ◼   ► buy I bought it online it looks like

00:31:45 ◼   ► there's a pede that there's a PD written

00:31:48 ◼   ► on it

00:31:49 ◼   ► no it doesn't help me does it help if I

00:31:53 ◼   ► say it's maybe the best backpack in the

00:31:55 ◼   ► world I don't know but it's cool

00:31:58 ◼   ► it has like a great you can hear it

00:32:01 ◼   ► there's like these fancy metal clasps

00:32:03 ◼   ► you can change the interior volume

00:32:06 ◼   ► around it's fantastic whatever you know

00:32:08 ◼   ► it's not whatever if you bought it on

00:32:10 ◼   ► Amazon you can get the information no I

00:32:13 ◼   ► didn't buy it on Amazon I bought it

00:32:15 ◼   ► directly from the website we'll be

00:32:17 ◼   ► knocking you mean you can open your

00:32:18 ◼   ► email app and just type backpack into

00:32:20 ◼   ► the search field I'll find it for you

00:32:23 ◼   ► later Mike now you want though all right

00:32:26 ◼   ► okay I just need this to be shown as

00:32:28 ◼   ► testament to the fact that I tried I'm

00:32:31 ◼   ► searching backpack I've got too many

00:32:35 ◼   ► emails with the word backpack no but you

00:32:41 ◼   ► know like Amazon is showing yeah there's

00:32:44 ◼   ► nothing I type in backpack and I've got

00:32:46 ◼   ► like a hundred emails here and I don't

00:32:48 ◼   ► see anything that's obviously the

00:32:49 ◼   ► receipt from the company do you think

00:32:51 ◼   ► people will ask you gray about the

00:32:53 ◼   ► backpack right I was going through ausco

00:32:55 ◼   ► text questions today and there was

00:32:58 ◼   ► somebody asking about our backpacks

00:33:00 ◼   ► based upon like episode three right yeah

00:33:03 ◼   ► that's that's what I'm thinking of it

00:33:04 ◼   ► because at that point you didn't give

00:33:06 ◼   ► the name of your backpack so I'm still

00:33:09 ◼   ► getting those questions so you know I

00:33:14 ◼   ► just you know I just need people to know

00:33:16 ◼   ► that I tried together

00:33:17 ◼   ► I found it I found it okay okay it's on

00:33:22 ◼   ► the on the interior cover of the

00:33:24 ◼   ► backpack by a company called peak design

00:33:27 ◼   ► that's what it is okay thanks

00:33:31 ◼   ► it's called the everyday backpack okay I

00:33:36 ◼   ► got it yeah I think that's that's the he

00:33:38 ◼   ► okay good yeah this is really good

00:33:41 ◼   ► somehow I knew you were not gonna relax

00:33:43 ◼   ► until I could know because I kind when I

00:33:46 ◼   ► know my future I know what my future is

00:33:48 ◼   ► you know any it was just full of like

00:33:51 ◼   ► your future is fielding these questions

00:33:53 ◼   ► yeah for forever yeah now I got it it

00:33:58 ◼   ► does look like a really nice bag

00:33:59 ◼   ► actually oh man yeah just a new bag I

00:34:02 ◼   ► don't need another one but this looks

00:34:04 ◼   ► like a really nice bag it is a really

00:34:06 ◼   ► great bag I bought a Tom bin sign apps

00:34:09 ◼   ► backpack by the way just so people don't

00:34:11 ◼   ► ask what backpack I bought okay yeah

00:34:13 ◼   ► there you go yeah it's it looks like it

00:34:17 ◼   ► is ostensibly designed for cameras

00:34:19 ◼   ► camera yeah exactly like camera

00:34:20 ◼   ► professionals and that is like when I

00:34:23 ◼   ► bought my original backpack and I made

00:34:24 ◼   ► that comment about how I was looking

00:34:26 ◼   ► into like what do runners use because I

00:34:28 ◼   ► was trying to find the lightest backpack

00:34:29 ◼   ► possible and I felt like Oh runners will

00:34:31 ◼   ► use super light backpacks then I found

00:34:33 ◼   ► what I really liked whose the same thing

00:34:34 ◼   ► with this I was trying to think about

00:34:35 ◼   ► equipment and I said surely there must

00:34:38 ◼   ► be backpacks that like wedding

00:34:40 ◼   ► photographers would use like what it

00:34:42 ◼   ► what is the professional solution to

00:34:44 ◼   ► this and that's how I stumbled upon this

00:34:45 ◼   ► this bag yeah but so it is great however

00:34:49 ◼   ► I bring all of this up because it was an

00:34:54 ◼   ► interesting thing to realize that I got

00:34:55 ◼   ► this backpack and I have hardly used it

00:34:59 ◼   ► in the past several months of having it

00:35:03 ◼   ► because I realize it's like wait a

00:35:07 ◼   ► minute I didn't I didn't buy this

00:35:12 ◼   ► backpack for me I bought this backpack

00:35:16 ◼   ► for the me I used to be I used to be the

00:35:20 ◼   ► person who spent all day wandering

00:35:23 ◼   ► around the city in different mobile

00:35:25 ◼   ► locations and working very mobile II

00:35:27 ◼   ► like I haven't been that guy in a long

00:35:30 ◼   ► time

00:35:31 ◼   ► and I've recognized that some of my

00:35:32 ◼   ► habits have changed where I'm just much

00:35:36 ◼   ► more in a smaller number of more

00:35:38 ◼   ► permanent locations and so it was making

00:35:42 ◼   ► me think very deliberately about my

00:35:43 ◼   ► workspace and so one of the reasons that

00:35:48 ◼   ► I did go with a Mac for my writing

00:35:51 ◼   ► station is I was thinking about like I

00:35:53 ◼   ► don't need to optimize this space for

00:35:58 ◼   ► mobility they don't need to optimize

00:36:01 ◼   ► this space for the situation where I'm

00:36:03 ◼   ► gonna just grab that iPad I'm on my way

00:36:06 ◼   ► out the door and I'm gonna use that one

00:36:07 ◼   ► iPad as my writing iPad like I don't

00:36:09 ◼   ► need to do that anymore instead what I

00:36:12 ◼   ► can do is if you accept that this

00:36:16 ◼   ► station is never going to be mobile you

00:36:19 ◼   ► can optimize it in a different way and

00:36:21 ◼   ► so one of the things that I can do is

00:36:24 ◼   ► that laptop is actually powering two of

00:36:28 ◼   ► the external 4k monitors from LG and I

00:36:32 ◼   ► have them both in the vertical set up

00:36:35 ◼   ► because one of the things that I really

00:36:37 ◼   ► want to be able to do is see as much of

00:36:40 ◼   ► the script as possible and so rotating a

00:36:43 ◼   ► monitor to be in the vertical position

00:36:45 ◼   ► is a really big bonus like it allows me

00:36:48 ◼   ► to see so much more of what I'm working

00:36:50 ◼   ► on and a lot of what I like about

00:36:53 ◼   ► Ulysses allows you to like rearrange

00:36:55 ◼   ► stuff it makes a lot of this way way

00:36:59 ◼   ► easier and it just comes down to the

00:37:01 ◼   ► case of like okay even if I wanted to

00:37:04 ◼   ► use an iPad the biggest iPad they make

00:37:08 ◼   ► is not as big as two 4k monitors so I've

00:37:11 ◼   ► like I'm just gonna eat this and say I'm

00:37:13 ◼   ► building this space to be a permanent

00:37:16 ◼   ► space what is the ideal that I would

00:37:18 ◼   ► want and that's what I would want two

00:37:21 ◼   ► monitors one for script one for research

00:37:23 ◼   ► and notes and I can just have them next

00:37:25 ◼   ► to each other super big all the time and

00:37:27 ◼   ► standing up and then the other desk has

00:37:31 ◼   ► an iMac Pro that's where the iMac pro

00:37:33 ◼   ► lives it lives on the second desk in the

00:37:35 ◼   ► glass cube and this is like heavy

00:37:37 ◼   ► project stuff including something called

00:37:39 ◼   ► project golem which is just a great name

00:37:41 ◼   ► it doesn't really matter what about the

00:37:43 ◼   ► names we're good

00:37:44 ◼   ► and that's the way you edit and produce

00:37:48 ◼   ► stuff so yeah the second half of the

00:37:52 ◼   ► cube it it's also like I'm trying to

00:37:54 ◼   ► make spaces different so it's like the

00:37:56 ◼   ► writing space is a standing up space

00:37:58 ◼   ► because I always pace around anyway and

00:38:00 ◼   ► then the I'm Mac Pro is a sitting down

00:38:03 ◼   ► space in the same cube and yeah what

00:38:06 ◼   ► what I've thinking of with this is again

00:38:10 ◼   ► work that falls in some category of

00:38:15 ◼   ► creative in a way so what I'm trying not

00:38:18 ◼   ► to do there is administrative tasks of

00:38:21 ◼   ► any kind what I'm trying to do is that

00:38:24 ◼   ► queso like the podcast editing I would

00:38:26 ◼   ► say is a kind of creative space that

00:38:27 ◼   ► also benefits greatly from having the

00:38:31 ◼   ► iMac Pro like it makes that much easier

00:38:33 ◼   ► doing the vlog editing is the same kind

00:38:35 ◼   ► of thing it's like this is creative work

00:38:37 ◼   ► it also benefits from having a much more

00:38:39 ◼   ► powerful computer because it's in the

00:38:43 ◼   ► same physical location as the writing I

00:38:45 ◼   ► do like to separate out when am i doing

00:38:49 ◼   ► research for script versus when am I

00:38:51 ◼   ► actually writing the script I try not to

00:38:53 ◼   ► do both of those things at the same time

00:38:55 ◼   ► so that I'm Mac Pro is also for research

00:38:58 ◼   ► and then yes I don't want to talk about

00:39:01 ◼   ► what the details of it are but I do have

00:39:04 ◼   ► a new project this year that's that is

00:39:07 ◼   ► sort of sort of thematically related to

00:39:11 ◼   ► the year of order but I'm just gonna

00:39:13 ◼   ► call it project Gollum for right now and

00:39:15 ◼   ► we will say that it definitely requires

00:39:18 ◼   ► a fast powerful computer for project

00:39:23 ◼   ► Gollum so that is a thing that is

00:39:25 ◼   ► underway that is also creative and is

00:39:29 ◼   ► going to happen in this space what was

00:39:32 ◼   ► that like a little West why am I the

00:39:34 ◼   ► worst you just I'm trying to just I'm

00:39:40 ◼   ► trying to describe for you my thinking

00:39:42 ◼   ► process here about where these different

00:39:44 ◼   ► spaces that's very good and then

00:39:46 ◼   ► obviously the only you have an outlier

00:39:49 ◼   ► right which is the podcast recording

00:39:50 ◼   ► because really that should live in the

00:39:52 ◼   ► glass cube thematically but from an

00:39:55 ◼   ► audio sound space perspective

00:39:57 ◼   ► cannot be ever recorded in space yeah

00:40:02 ◼   ► this is this is where there's a couple

00:40:03 ◼   ► of complex I actually the podcast to me

00:40:07 ◼   ► are such a different kind of work they

00:40:09 ◼   ► don't they don't feel creative in the

00:40:13 ◼   ► same way like creatives not the best

00:40:14 ◼   ► word for what I'm doing in the glass

00:40:16 ◼   ► cube but it's just the category that's

00:40:17 ◼   ► in my mind where's the podcasts are much

00:40:21 ◼   ► more like you know they're like going

00:40:23 ◼   ► out to a dinner with people you know

00:40:27 ◼   ► where it's just intensely draining

00:40:29 ◼   ► social work it feels like a very

00:40:31 ◼   ► different kind of thing and so there are

00:40:34 ◼   ► two good reasons to not have it be in

00:40:36 ◼   ► the glass cube it feels to me one like

00:40:38 ◼   ► that work is just a very different kind

00:40:40 ◼   ► of work from everything else and

00:40:41 ◼   ► secondly yes a glass cube and in the

00:40:46 ◼   ► middle of like a Facebook style Open

00:40:48 ◼   ► Office is an acoustically terrible

00:40:51 ◼   ► environment but so one of the one of the

00:40:55 ◼   ► other parts of like year of order is

00:40:56 ◼   ► thinking a lot about what do I use my

00:40:58 ◼   ► home office for and I'm really aware

00:41:00 ◼   ► that in the past year my home office has

00:41:03 ◼   ► become a kind of mess of ambiguity like

00:41:07 ◼   ► what what happens here what sort of work

00:41:09 ◼   ► is here what is this space for I've done

00:41:12 ◼   ► a really bad job with that

00:41:13 ◼   ► and so what I'm in the process of doing

00:41:17 ◼   ► is again deciding very intentionally

00:41:20 ◼   ► this is a if this is like a permanent

00:41:22 ◼   ► space how can you best optimize this

00:41:26 ◼   ► space for the kinds of tasks that you

00:41:27 ◼   ► want to do in here and so yes I'm

00:41:29 ◼   ► turning my home office into two things

00:41:34 ◼   ► but the primary one is an audio

00:41:37 ◼   ► recording studio so I will do all of the

00:41:41 ◼   ► podcasts in my home office and that also

00:41:44 ◼   ► means finally doing something like I'm

00:41:46 ◼   ► going to be upgrading some of the audio

00:41:48 ◼   ► equipment that I use finally even

00:41:51 ◼   ► listeners mike has been bothering me

00:41:53 ◼   ► about this for so long but but this is

00:41:57 ◼   ► this is a great example though again of

00:41:59 ◼   ► my current podcast recording setup I

00:42:02 ◼   ► mean you know this it's optimized for

00:42:05 ◼   ► mobility and flexibility that that's why

00:42:09 ◼   ► I choose some of the equipment that I

00:42:10 ◼   ► choose

00:42:11 ◼   ► like I use the the road USB and team

00:42:13 ◼   ► microphone which I totally love and it

00:42:16 ◼   ► is a great super flexible microphone but

00:42:19 ◼   ► I'm making this decision of okay if

00:42:22 ◼   ► you're starting over and if this space

00:42:24 ◼   ► is for this one task and all of the

00:42:28 ◼   ► equipment in here is never going to move

00:42:31 ◼   ► would you choose the equipment that

00:42:33 ◼   ► you're currently using and the answer is

00:42:35 ◼   ► no I would not choose this microphone

00:42:37 ◼   ► under those circumstances so I feel like

00:42:40 ◼   ► I have to have a conversation with our

00:42:41 ◼   ► good friend Marco Arment about what to

00:42:43 ◼   ► get because I am very out of my depth

00:42:46 ◼   ► here oh I know what ya think I've

00:42:49 ◼   ► already had a conversation with him so

00:42:50 ◼   ► you're probably gonna end up exactly

00:42:52 ◼   ► exactly what I have

00:42:54 ◼   ► okay great do you want give me a preview

00:42:56 ◼   ► what do you use mic no it's too much

00:42:58 ◼   ► it's that's too much yeah I will put a

00:43:00 ◼   ► link in the show notes to Marco Arment

00:43:02 ◼   ► guide for podcast microphones because

00:43:06 ◼   ► what I use is not good to tell people to

00:43:09 ◼   ► use because it kind of gets into that

00:43:12 ◼   ► area of you know you end up with small

00:43:15 ◼   ► gains for a large cost right right yeah

00:43:18 ◼   ► because I've been doing this for eight

00:43:19 ◼   ► years and I've built up over time

00:43:22 ◼   ► there's pointless to start where I am

00:43:25 ◼   ► but yeah it's all included in that in

00:43:27 ◼   ► that guide which you'll find in our show

00:43:29 ◼   ► notes but that's also part of the like

00:43:33 ◼   ► intentionally thinking about the kind of

00:43:35 ◼   ► work that I do and recognizing that

00:43:38 ◼   ► optimizing for mobility is not sensible

00:43:41 ◼   ► and that I am in the same category as

00:43:43 ◼   ► you if I obviously I don't do nearly as

00:43:46 ◼   ► much audio work as you but I do enough

00:43:49 ◼   ► that optimizing for small gains is a

00:43:52 ◼   ► sensible thing to do and it's probably a

00:43:55 ◼   ► thing I should have done a year ago yeah

00:43:56 ◼   ► but like now now I'm just doing it now

00:43:59 ◼   ► and the other thing that I'm going to be

00:44:02 ◼   ► looking into is acoustic treatments for

00:44:06 ◼   ► the room so that getting some of the

00:44:07 ◼   ► noise reduction foam and other things

00:44:10 ◼   ► put into this office

00:44:12 ◼   ► I think this office is fine for that but

00:44:15 ◼   ► it's not great and I know that I could

00:44:16 ◼   ► make it better and that's again the same

00:44:18 ◼   ► kind of thing of like does it make the

00:44:21 ◼   ► audio five percent better maybe but

00:44:24 ◼   ► I'm going to spend time on that under

00:44:26 ◼   ► this umbrella of the year of order but

00:44:29 ◼   ► right now my main focus

00:44:31 ◼   ► my main focus has been setting up the

00:44:34 ◼   ► glass cube and I've gotten the glass

00:44:35 ◼   ► cube into what I think of as version 1.0

00:44:38 ◼   ► where it's minimally functional but

00:44:41 ◼   ► there's much more that I want to do and

00:44:42 ◼   ► I'm really aware of like when people try

00:44:46 ◼   ► to change it's very easy to try to

00:44:49 ◼   ► change everything all at once

00:44:51 ◼   ► and then you do everything terribly and

00:44:53 ◼   ► I'm taking this like very limited small

00:44:58 ◼   ► focus and so that's why I feel like

00:45:01 ◼   ► right now I'm focusing on my just my

00:45:02 ◼   ► physical space I'm not even trying to

00:45:04 ◼   ► touch my routine or my health or any of

00:45:07 ◼   ► these other things that I want to do

00:45:08 ◼   ► it's like okay just focus on the

00:45:10 ◼   ► physical space and then within that

00:45:11 ◼   ► right now I am just focusing on the

00:45:15 ◼   ► glass cube as the main area and so I'm

00:45:18 ◼   ► gonna get that absolutely the way I want

00:45:20 ◼   ► it to be it's like and then I will turn

00:45:22 ◼   ► my full attention to the home office and

00:45:24 ◼   ► what's going to happen is everything is

00:45:27 ◼   ► in the home office is is coming out and

00:45:29 ◼   ► then I'm going to just deliberately

00:45:31 ◼   ► bring things back in or set up the new

00:45:33 ◼   ► equipment but so it's like I'm trying to

00:45:35 ◼   ► focus on the smallest possible piece

00:45:38 ◼   ► each at a time but I can tell you all of

00:45:41 ◼   ► my glass office cube neighbors they know

00:45:47 ◼   ► who the who the weirdo on the floor is

00:45:48 ◼   ► really fast it's like okay what are you

00:45:51 ◼   ► doing now two desks hasn't seen that

00:45:53 ◼   ► weird

00:45:53 ◼   ► it does seem weird as two desks and it's

00:45:55 ◼   ► one person but it was also just I had

00:45:59 ◼   ► all just I had a lot of boxes coming in

00:46:02 ◼   ► and coming in under short periods of

00:46:07 ◼   ► time and there was there was a lot of

00:46:08 ◼   ► activity going on and there's just a few

00:46:12 ◼   ► things that make me like the office

00:46:13 ◼   ► weirdo that I don't quite want to go

00:46:15 ◼   ► into details much like I can people

00:46:16 ◼   ► looking they're like that's that guy's

00:46:18 ◼   ► that guy's the weird guy on the floor in

00:46:20 ◼   ► that office what's he doing eventually

00:46:22 ◼   ► you're gonna have to build that building

00:46:24 ◼   ► because you're gonna be kicked out of

00:46:25 ◼   ► every office space within the m25 I am

00:46:28 ◼   ► aware that some of the stuff that I'm

00:46:29 ◼   ► bringing to the glass cube like maybe

00:46:31 ◼   ► this is not the final resting home of

00:46:33 ◼   ► all of his stuff but I am mentally

00:46:34 ◼   ► treating it as though I'm gonna be there

00:46:35 ◼   ► for a long time

00:46:37 ◼   ► even if when I do construct an office

00:46:39 ◼   ► building of my own in May it may all be

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00:48:48 ◼   ► support of this show any

00:48:50 ◼   ► so that those are like the two main

00:48:52 ◼   ► things with the computer that I'm going

00:48:54 ◼   ► to be using in my home office again I'm

00:48:57 ◼   ► going to deliberately strip everything

00:48:59 ◼   ► off of there that is not required for

00:49:02 ◼   ► recording a podcast so I'm going to have

00:49:04 ◼   ► a machine that the only thing it does is

00:49:08 ◼   ► I turn it on and I record podcasts on it

00:49:11 ◼   ► and then I save those files and they get

00:49:13 ◼   ► synced to the cloud and that machine is

00:49:15 ◼   ► used for literally nothing else because

00:49:18 ◼   ► if there's one thing I have learned over

00:49:20 ◼   ► the years of podcasting it's that audio

00:49:22 ◼   ► recording is surprisingly fiddly and

00:49:24 ◼   ► stuff just somehow changes even when

00:49:28 ◼   ► you're doing other things on the machine

00:49:29 ◼   ► that's incredibly frustrating so sorry

00:49:31 ◼   ► I'm gonna have a machine that is

00:49:33 ◼   ► untouched except for this one purpose

00:49:36 ◼   ► and and that is going to be in my home

00:49:40 ◼   ► office and all other software that is

00:49:42 ◼   ► not necessary on that machine is going

00:49:45 ◼   ► to be removed and it's again it's the

00:49:47 ◼   ► same thing with like the iMac Pro in the

00:49:50 ◼   ► glass cube it's very deliberate removal

00:49:53 ◼   ► of all software that is not necessary

00:49:56 ◼   ► for the vlog or for editing or for

00:50:01 ◼   ► project Gollum like everything is coming

00:50:03 ◼   ► off that is not required for those

00:50:04 ◼   ► things I really like how you refer to

00:50:06 ◼   ► the vlog when you've done what well

00:50:10 ◼   ► maybe we can get back to this a little

00:50:12 ◼   ► bit later but uh we can say that I'll

00:50:15 ◼   ► just say now that on my we love we love

00:50:17 ◼   ► recorded time for last year

00:50:20 ◼   ► vlog stuff was a surprisingly big chunk

00:50:23 ◼   ► of that time so even for me it is still

00:50:25 ◼   ► a very active project even though I know

00:50:27 ◼   ► to outside it seems like it's crazy

00:50:30 ◼   ► right like nothing has happened so

00:50:33 ◼   ► that's that still seems very active I

00:50:35 ◼   ► have a very small update for the year of

00:50:37 ◼   ► adulting one of my two themes I am now

00:50:41 ◼   ► 30 so I've completed task one which was

00:50:44 ◼   ► to have my birthday and I've done that

00:50:46 ◼   ► you've made it yeah happy birthday

00:50:48 ◼   ► that's so that's that's point one thank

00:50:50 ◼   ► you very much and I'm adding something

00:50:52 ◼   ► in to the year I do not have a driving

00:50:57 ◼   ► license I live in a big city

00:51:03 ◼   ► so there are two things to this I tried

00:51:05 ◼   ► to learn to drive when I was like 17 and

00:51:08 ◼   ► I would spend 45 minutes once a week

00:51:11 ◼   ► stuck in traffic which is not the best

00:51:14 ◼   ► way to learn how to drive and then also

00:51:16 ◼   ► I have I am afforded with fantastic

00:51:19 ◼   ► travel in this city the public transport

00:51:22 ◼   ► is wonderful but to think about some

00:51:26 ◼   ► things that I want to do in my work and

00:51:28 ◼   ► personal life over the next few years a

00:51:31 ◼   ► car would be a great addition to that

00:51:34 ◼   ► and would help facilitate a bunch of

00:51:35 ◼   ► things so I am planning to get a driving

00:51:40 ◼   ► license by the end of the year like

00:51:42 ◼   ► after we get married at some point

00:51:44 ◼   ► towards the end of the year I'm gonna

00:51:46 ◼   ► take one of those like intensive courses

00:51:47 ◼   ► things and get a driving license and get

00:51:49 ◼   ► a little car that I intend to bump into

00:51:52 ◼   ► some stuff and then I'm gonna have a car

00:51:54 ◼   ► on a driving license so that's part of

00:51:56 ◼   ► my other thing for my year of adulting

00:51:58 ◼   ► that's very exciting I have a friend who

00:52:01 ◼   ► she just went through that where she's

00:52:03 ◼   ► never never drove and and as an adult

00:52:06 ◼   ► got her driver's license you know and

00:52:09 ◼   ► when you live in the city your whole

00:52:10 ◼   ► life it's you know it's just like people

00:52:12 ◼   ► who live in Manhattan all right there's

00:52:14 ◼   ► no real need or more pressure to get a

00:52:16 ◼   ► driver's license because public

00:52:18 ◼   ► transport is fantastic and doubly so in

00:52:21 ◼   ► the world of ride-sharing services la

00:52:24 ◼   ► yeah it's you know it makes it even even

00:52:27 ◼   ► less necessary but that'll be it'll be

00:52:30 ◼   ► having an interesting and exciting

00:52:31 ◼   ► project for you Mike yep because like

00:52:33 ◼   ► one of the things that I want to do is

00:52:35 ◼   ► eventually probably over in the next

00:52:36 ◼   ► couple of years I want to get an office

00:52:38 ◼   ► space outside of my home what we're

00:52:43 ◼   ► where I am like in the kind of the area

00:52:45 ◼   ► that I'm in I don't know where there

00:52:48 ◼   ► would be any office spaces but I reckon

00:52:50 ◼   ► that they would probably be like a

00:52:51 ◼   ► 10-minute Drive from home right and it

00:52:54 ◼   ► would just be easier if I have my own

00:52:55 ◼   ► car to deal with that mm-hmm right then

00:52:58 ◼   ► then because I want to live I get I can

00:53:01 ◼   ► easily imagine that as the situation for

00:53:03 ◼   ► where you are yeah if you are going to

00:53:05 ◼   ► have an office almost certainly it's

00:53:08 ◼   ► going to be way easier to drive to that

00:53:10 ◼   ► office because the other thing is like

00:53:12 ◼   ► there are some places close to me where

00:53:14 ◼   ► I could get a space but they're not

00:53:16 ◼   ► gonna be ideal

00:53:17 ◼   ► and I open myself up to many more

00:53:21 ◼   ► opportunities if I have a car because I

00:53:24 ◼   ► can then you know the catchment area for

00:53:28 ◼   ► my studio space can grow significantly

00:53:30 ◼   ► if my mobility is increased so that's

00:53:34 ◼   ► kind of one that's one of the things I'm

00:53:36 ◼   ► thinking of so this is that that is like

00:53:39 ◼   ► a multi-year project which doesn't need

00:53:42 ◼   ► to start but before I can do it I need

00:53:45 ◼   ► to get I need to get a driving license

00:53:47 ◼   ► to get a car yeah and the year of

00:53:49 ◼   ► adulting seems like the perfect year to

00:53:51 ◼   ► have that as a target mm-hmm

00:53:53 ◼   ► we have a car parking space in our

00:53:55 ◼   ► building that we own it just came with

00:53:58 ◼   ► our apartment and it's in like an

00:54:01 ◼   ► underground carpark type situation and I

00:54:04 ◼   ► have no idea what the feasibility would

00:54:06 ◼   ► be to try and convince the owners of the

00:54:07 ◼   ► building to put a plug socket in there

00:54:09 ◼   ► for me but I'm thinking it because like

00:54:11 ◼   ► I've never owned a car why don't I just

00:54:14 ◼   ► get an electric car right and just never

00:54:16 ◼   ► owned a petrol car but if you're going

00:54:20 ◼   ► to do that I would highly recommend

00:54:23 ◼   ► making that technological leap my plan

00:54:26 ◼   ► is to try and see if we can convince

00:54:28 ◼   ► someone to allow us to get that put in

00:54:30 ◼   ► because I just feel like if I'm gonna be

00:54:34 ◼   ► buying a car in 2018 why even bother

00:54:37 ◼   ► with petrol yeah I would agree with you

00:54:39 ◼   ► 100% so I mean I'm not we would you know

00:54:42 ◼   ► there's like a pretty decent secondhand

00:54:44 ◼   ► market for like Nissan Leafs and stuff

00:54:47 ◼   ► like that right that we would probably

00:54:49 ◼   ► get something like that but you know I

00:54:51 ◼   ► have my mind that maybe in five years I

00:54:53 ◼   ► buy a Tesla or something you know like

00:54:55 ◼   ► when I can actually buy a real car

00:54:57 ◼   ► because I'm not just gonna bump it into

00:54:58 ◼   ► everything but I just figure why if it's

00:55:02 ◼   ► possible for me to just go straight to

00:55:04 ◼   ► electric because that's clearly the

00:55:05 ◼   ► future why don't I just start with

00:55:08 ◼   ► electric so that's like another long I'm

00:55:11 ◼   ► sure very arduous project then I think

00:55:14 ◼   ► the idea would probably take great

00:55:16 ◼   ► enjoyment out of trying to win as

00:55:18 ◼   ► something that she would enjoy great

00:55:20 ◼   ► layers like a project for her to try and

00:55:24 ◼   ► convince the building owners to allow us

00:55:26 ◼   ► to put a plug in the car park we'll see

00:55:28 ◼   ► how that one goes when you get your

00:55:30 ◼   ► license you know

00:55:31 ◼   ► you're legally required to go on at

00:55:33 ◼   ► least one road trip oh yeah yeah this is

00:55:36 ◼   ► like the whole thing we were talking

00:55:38 ◼   ► about it yesterday there's like oh we

00:55:39 ◼   ► can go on down to the coast and it's

00:55:41 ◼   ► like yeah I think of all the places we

00:55:43 ◼   ► can go we never go anywhere but think of

00:55:45 ◼   ► all the places we could go

00:55:46 ◼   ► well I wish you luck with that yeah

00:55:48 ◼   ► that's some time on that one but it did

00:55:50 ◼   ► occurred to me that that fits quite

00:55:52 ◼   ► nicely in with the theme so Mike

00:55:54 ◼   ► speaking of people who don't upload logs

00:55:57 ◼   ► I haven't seen you upload a vlog in a

00:55:59 ◼   ► very long time how's that going

00:56:01 ◼   ► I've come to a decision about my

00:56:03 ◼   ► vlogging experiment which I'm now

00:56:05 ◼   ► calling an experiment in retrospect okay

00:56:08 ◼   ► I was like wait a minute I don't

00:56:09 ◼   ► remember this word before I'm sure I

00:56:11 ◼   ► said it at some point

00:56:12 ◼   ► alright so okay we're reading this I'm

00:56:16 ◼   ► not recommending it one of the things

00:56:17 ◼   ► that I did last year was in in essence I

00:56:22 ◼   ► guess was a introduction to what it

00:56:26 ◼   ► would be like to have a year of

00:56:27 ◼   ► branching out was to try something new

00:56:29 ◼   ► and create a YouTube channel and create

00:56:33 ◼   ► vlog content for it that was the plan

00:56:34 ◼   ► and I wanted to see what it would be

00:56:37 ◼   ► like to start a vlog and what that would

00:56:39 ◼   ► take and I've come to some conclusions

00:56:42 ◼   ► about how I feel about being a vlogger I

00:56:47 ◼   ► think that it is very clear that to get

00:56:49 ◼   ► good and to get popular requires

00:56:51 ◼   ► frequent uploading right like I think

00:56:53 ◼   ► that that is in vlogging that seems to

00:56:56 ◼   ► be something which helps success is to

00:57:01 ◼   ► upload frequently whatever that ends up

00:57:04 ◼   ► being like okay what is it what does

00:57:06 ◼   ► that mean there's a big spectrum here I

00:57:07 ◼   ► don't know I think at least at least

00:57:09 ◼   ► once a week or a couple of times a week

00:57:12 ◼   ► it would seem right these from the

00:57:13 ◼   ► people that I follow that are primarily

00:57:17 ◼   ► doing life stylish vlogging stipe stuff

00:57:20 ◼   ► there is very current uploading to that

00:57:23 ◼   ► and I have a couple of issues that have

00:57:28 ◼   ► precluded me from being able to do that

00:57:31 ◼   ► one is the amount of time that I

00:57:36 ◼   ► actually have to put into another

00:57:40 ◼   ► creative project

00:57:42 ◼   ► and really I don't have it I don't have

00:57:47 ◼   ► the time in my life to create two

00:57:49 ◼   ► YouTube videos a week or one a week even

00:57:53 ◼   ► it's just not a thing that I can do well

00:57:56 ◼   ► if I remember your original goal was one

00:57:58 ◼   ► a month wasn't it it wasn't that sort of

00:58:00 ◼   ► roughly what you were aiming yeah it was

00:58:02 ◼   ► okay so you're saying this is the

00:58:03 ◼   ► combination of if this thing is going to

00:58:06 ◼   ► be successful it probably needs to be at

00:58:08 ◼   ► least once a week yes and that that

00:58:11 ◼   ► energy is just beyond the amount that

00:58:12 ◼   ► you have to spend in a week yep

00:58:14 ◼   ► especially with the the upcoming big

00:58:17 ◼   ► project exactly but the thing is one of

00:58:22 ◼   ► the problems that I had was one of the

00:58:26 ◼   ► problems that I had with doing stuff on

00:58:28 ◼   ► a more frequent basis it's not even just

00:58:30 ◼   ► time it is content like what do I make

00:58:35 ◼   ► right

00:58:36 ◼   ► well Mike the the viewers they wanted to

00:58:39 ◼   ► see what a normal day in Mike's life is

00:58:42 ◼   ► like you think you want to see it but

00:58:45 ◼   ► like I'm telling you you don't it's so

00:58:46 ◼   ► boring

00:58:47 ◼   ► yeah everybody thinks they want to see

00:58:49 ◼   ► it but it's actually super boring you

00:58:51 ◼   ► would hand just trust me like you would

00:58:54 ◼   ► hate it how would you describe what a

00:58:56 ◼   ► normal day actually looks like for you

00:58:58 ◼   ► my sitting down sitting down in front of

00:59:01 ◼   ► a computer what are you doing clicking

00:59:03 ◼   ► oh well let the stuff that anybody wants

00:59:04 ◼   ► to see is just different places that I

00:59:07 ◼   ► sit down

00:59:08 ◼   ► right right how many of those places

00:59:10 ◼   ► even are there Tori yeah exactly the

00:59:15 ◼   ► thing is is I don't have enough to give

00:59:20 ◼   ► from a Content perspective because I

00:59:23 ◼   ► make so much already so all of the

00:59:26 ◼   ► things I have to say I've already said

00:59:29 ◼   ► them right like so I was thinking

00:59:32 ◼   ► something that I see from the vloggers

00:59:34 ◼   ► that that I like is about half of the

00:59:37 ◼   ► content at least that they make tends to

00:59:39 ◼   ► be them talking to the camera about a

00:59:41 ◼   ► thing yeah in a broad way a lot of it

00:59:45 ◼   ► could be classified as opinion pieces

00:59:47 ◼   ► yeah but I have no extra opinions than

00:59:52 ◼   ► the ones that I give on all of the shows

00:59:54 ◼   ► that I make right so that

00:59:56 ◼   ► that became apparent to me really

00:59:57 ◼   ► quickly the eye burns

00:59:57 ◼   ► quickly the eye burns

01:00:00 ◼   ► through my topic ideas within like three

01:00:04 ◼   ► months they're all gone and typically we

01:00:09 ◼   ► have a creative project that I have that

01:00:10 ◼   ► is not the case

01:00:12 ◼   ► that I will hang on to topics for a long

01:00:14 ◼   ► time because they're in the initial list

01:00:18 ◼   ► that I create hasn't foreseen all of the

01:00:20 ◼   ► other things that might come to me

01:00:22 ◼   ► mm-hmm

01:00:23 ◼   ► but they didn't nothing really came to

01:00:26 ◼   ► me and they have a big thing is that I

01:00:31 ◼   ► realized that I would lose too much of

01:00:35 ◼   ► my private life if I decided that I

01:00:38 ◼   ► wanted to do this more frequently

01:00:40 ◼   ► because if I don't have topics to sit in

01:00:47 ◼   ► front of the cameras to talk about all I

01:00:50 ◼   ► can do is show more of my life right and

01:00:55 ◼   ► I decided that I'm comfortable with the

01:01:01 ◼   ► amount that I already show and that the

01:01:04 ◼   ► things that I don't talk about and the

01:01:06 ◼   ► things that people don't know about is

01:01:08 ◼   ► for a reason

01:01:10 ◼   ► mm-hm and if I vlog more I would lose

01:01:15 ◼   ► all of it far too frequently something

01:01:18 ◼   ► that I see with the vloggers that I like

01:01:21 ◼   ► to watch is that you see in their videos

01:01:23 ◼   ► they spend time with colleagues and

01:01:26 ◼   ► friends who were also vloggers right and

01:01:29 ◼   ► you see these scenes where it's like

01:01:31 ◼   ► five people each talking into a camera

01:01:33 ◼   ► and I I don't I don't want to put my

01:01:37 ◼   ► friends and family in those types of

01:01:39 ◼   ► situations because my friends and family

01:01:42 ◼   ► don't do this and I don't want to

01:01:46 ◼   ► subject everything about my life and all

01:01:49 ◼   ► of the people in it to the world like

01:01:51 ◼   ► podcasting what I do right now it's

01:01:53 ◼   ► fixed like I'm in my studio and I talk

01:01:55 ◼   ► about what I want to talk about but

01:01:57 ◼   ► vlogging shows more of everything in a

01:02:00 ◼   ► direct way like people and places and

01:02:02 ◼   ► like bad hair days like you see

01:02:05 ◼   ► everything yeah there's a world of

01:02:08 ◼   ► difference between you talking about

01:02:12 ◼   ► Idina on

01:02:13 ◼   ► podcast and you filming Idina to put in

01:02:19 ◼   ► your vlog that there's a way that that

01:02:22 ◼   ► turns it into oh I'm not just relaying a

01:02:25 ◼   ► thing where the original person is not

01:02:27 ◼   ► involved when yeah how to put it but

01:02:32 ◼   ► like when vloggers are filming their

01:02:34 ◼   ► family they are pretty explicitly

01:02:39 ◼   ► requesting a performance of their family

01:02:42 ◼   ► you exactly yeah like that that is what

01:02:45 ◼   ► is happening and it's the same thing

01:02:46 ◼   ► that happens if you're friends with

01:02:48 ◼   ► someone who is vlogging they are even if

01:02:53 ◼   ► you're just sort of in the background

01:02:54 ◼   ► now there's like an implicit request

01:02:57 ◼   ► that you do a performance for them I

01:03:00 ◼   ► really notice have noticed it when I

01:03:02 ◼   ► have blog trips that I've taken that

01:03:06 ◼   ► people are very aware like if I'm doing

01:03:08 ◼   ► anything with my phone they think that

01:03:11 ◼   ► I'm filming booth and like people make

01:03:14 ◼   ► these like jokey comments but they're

01:03:16 ◼   ► really just checking when we were in

01:03:18 ◼   ► WWDC I saw a bunch of this and I was I

01:03:21 ◼   ► was aware of that with you where people

01:03:22 ◼   ► were making comments to you where

01:03:24 ◼   ► they're like are you vlogging this right

01:03:25 ◼   ► like hahaha but am I on camera am I on

01:03:29 ◼   ► camera right now yeah that that's that's

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01:06:05 ◼   ► of this show and relay FM basically I've

01:06:09 ◼   ► just come to realize that the life that

01:06:12 ◼   ► I have right now doesn't fit this if I

01:06:16 ◼   ► want to do this I have to make changes

01:06:18 ◼   ► to my life and I've come to kind of come

01:06:22 ◼   ► to the conclusion that I don't want to

01:06:24 ◼   ► be a vlogger like I've just come to I

01:06:27 ◼   ► don't want to pursue it to try and

01:06:29 ◼   ► become this thing because I think I

01:06:31 ◼   ► might lose too much of what I currently

01:06:33 ◼   ► have unlike it would disrupt everything

01:06:37 ◼   ► in a way that I may be not comfortable

01:06:40 ◼   ► with

01:06:41 ◼   ► and I I don't want to never do them

01:06:44 ◼   ► because there are vlogs that I know I

01:06:48 ◼   ► will be able to make about travel where

01:06:51 ◼   ► it's mostly just me and I still want to

01:06:54 ◼   ► make those because I actually really

01:06:55 ◼   ► enjoy that but I have no intention of

01:07:00 ◼   ► continuing to make this a serious thing

01:07:03 ◼   ► like there are other types of

01:07:04 ◼   ► technology-based videos that I want to

01:07:06 ◼   ► do and I still want to make those I want

01:07:11 ◼   ► to do more game streaming as a thing

01:07:13 ◼   ► because I like doing that it's

01:07:15 ◼   ► relatively low amount of input for the

01:07:17 ◼   ► output mm-hmm but yeah as far as

01:07:20 ◼   ► vlogging goes I'm not I'm not a vlogger

01:07:24 ◼   ► and I'm not gonna be like yeah I mean

01:07:27 ◼   ► there is a way in which from my limited

01:07:31 ◼   ► experience with it but also just from

01:07:32 ◼   ► knowing and seeing people who are really

01:07:35 ◼   ► in that industry that how can I put this

01:07:43 ◼   ► in a nice way but I think for people who

01:07:45 ◼   ► are vlogging constantly it is like

01:07:48 ◼   ► strip-mining their life where everything

01:07:51 ◼   ► they're doing is seen through the lens

01:07:54 ◼   ► of how this can be presented to the

01:07:56 ◼   ► outside world and I think there's a long

01:08:01 ◼   ► tradition of people who are vloggers on

01:08:04 ◼   ► YouTube who do very frequent multi multi

01:08:06 ◼   ► times a week content who you can just

01:08:10 ◼   ► see them burn out and so there is no

01:08:15 ◼   ► shortage of videos on YouTube where a

01:08:17 ◼   ► vlogger who has been very prolific says

01:08:19 ◼   ► hey I need to step away from this for a

01:08:22 ◼   ► while because it's just emptied out

01:08:25 ◼   ► lines of her life well is there's

01:08:27 ◼   ► actually two ways you burn out when you

01:08:29 ◼   ► flame out right it's either you've

01:08:30 ◼   ► you've had enough or you push it too far

01:08:32 ◼   ► and there's equal amount of videos of

01:08:36 ◼   ► people doing something for the vlog

01:08:39 ◼   ► which was too much right and and I have

01:08:44 ◼   ► no desire to go in either of those

01:08:46 ◼   ► journeys in my life yeah well and

01:08:49 ◼   ► there's also the thing that I think

01:08:50 ◼   ► people you know if anybody out there is

01:08:52 ◼   ► like like oh I want to be a vlogger well

01:08:54 ◼   ► also that this thing you just probably

01:08:56 ◼   ► don't think about very much but there's

01:08:58 ◼   ► a question of how many how much hmm I

01:09:01 ◼   ► never quite know how to phrase this but

01:09:03 ◼   ► it's like um you know it's like your

01:09:06 ◼   ► life is a garden and things in the

01:09:08 ◼   ► garden grow slowly and vlogging is like

01:09:12 ◼   ► you're trying to harvest flowers out of

01:09:13 ◼   ► the garden every single day mm-hmm it's

01:09:16 ◼   ► like well that just can't happen there's

01:09:20 ◼   ► it there's a question of like what is

01:09:21 ◼   ► the frequency of which you can pull

01:09:23 ◼   ► flowers out of this garden but they

01:09:25 ◼   ► don't make flowers every day flowers

01:09:27 ◼   ► take a while and you know like we

01:09:30 ◼   ► discussed last time I went through my

01:09:32 ◼   ► own little version of this and that was

01:09:33 ◼   ► part of what the year of redirection was

01:09:35 ◼   ► was just recognizing like I'm I'm doing

01:09:39 ◼   ► podcasts that are largely about my life

01:09:43 ◼   ► in some ways as like the frequency is

01:09:45 ◼   ► just a little too high that it feels

01:09:49 ◼   ► like I'm coming back to this garden to

01:09:50 ◼   ► pull flowers too often so I need to pull

01:09:53 ◼   ► it back just a little bit and when

01:09:55 ◼   ► people are doing daily vlogs it's like

01:09:57 ◼   ► you are ripping all of the flowers out

01:09:59 ◼   ► of this garden and I think it's why when

01:10:02 ◼   ► I think it's why there there's two

01:10:04 ◼   ► things that happen very frequently with

01:10:06 ◼   ► the vlogs is that they become or people

01:10:09 ◼   ► who do successful vlogs have a

01:10:10 ◼   ► disproportionate amount of travel in

01:10:12 ◼   ► their life because travel is a way like

01:10:16 ◼   ► getting flowers out of another garden

01:10:18 ◼   ► like you're going somewhere you're doing

01:10:20 ◼   ► something and then especially lately

01:10:24 ◼   ► what has been a trend on on youtube I

01:10:26 ◼   ► think is manufactured stunts for the

01:10:29 ◼   ► vlogs so you you're now you're not

01:10:31 ◼   ► really vlogging your daily life it's

01:10:34 ◼   ► much more like you're putting together a

01:10:37 ◼   ► TV show oh you have to yeah and so now

01:10:41 ◼   ► you're artificially constructing things

01:10:42 ◼   ► nobody's life is interesting enough like

01:10:45 ◼   ► yeah you have to create situations and

01:10:49 ◼   ► that was something that I've realized

01:10:51 ◼   ► quickly like I started vlogging at a

01:10:55 ◼   ► time in my life that was very

01:10:56 ◼   ► interesting yeah we discussed it that

01:10:59 ◼   ► you were very aware that there was a

01:11:01 ◼   ► bunch of stuff going on in your life at

01:11:03 ◼   ► that time and so if you were going to

01:11:04 ◼   ► try this project that was the fertile

01:11:07 ◼   ► time to do it

01:11:08 ◼   ► yeah and it worked for me but then I

01:11:10 ◼   ► realize oh but now it's normal daily

01:11:14 ◼   ► life and every couple of months every

01:11:18 ◼   ► six to eight weeks I'm going somewhere

01:11:19 ◼   ► interesting and they're cool but what

01:11:21 ◼   ► about all the other times and that was

01:11:24 ◼   ► why I was struggling with once I moved

01:11:26 ◼   ► into my house and built my office and

01:11:29 ◼   ► did all of that stuff the really

01:11:32 ◼   ► exciting time in my life was done and

01:11:34 ◼   ► I'm moving into an exciting time now

01:11:37 ◼   ► which is getting married but I have

01:11:40 ◼   ► absolutely no desire to film any of that

01:11:43 ◼   ► process

01:11:44 ◼   ► yeah and that's that's again that the

01:11:46 ◼   ► the conflict of being like a private

01:11:49 ◼   ► person who lives in public in a way is

01:11:51 ◼   ► do you want to strip-mine your marriage

01:11:53 ◼   ► this was one of the big reasons for me

01:11:56 ◼   ► where I realized that maybe this wasn't

01:11:57 ◼   ► for me it was like if I'm gonna if I'm

01:12:00 ◼   ► gonna be a vlogger man I have a linen

01:12:02 ◼   ► like how great a video type thing is

01:12:05 ◼   ► that right to show your wedding to

01:12:06 ◼   ► people but I realized I didn't want to

01:12:08 ◼   ► do that yeah and there's also a way in

01:12:11 ◼   ► which obviously I'm not really like a

01:12:16 ◼   ► vlog of Locker but they're my most

01:12:18 ◼   ► direct comparison to this of a thing

01:12:20 ◼   ► where you realize something is changing

01:12:22 ◼   ► the way you think is I mean now this is

01:12:24 ◼   ► several years ago when I decided to take

01:12:26 ◼   ► Twitter off of my phone but I realized

01:12:29 ◼   ► it cleared up all of this mental space

01:12:31 ◼   ► where there was some part of my brain

01:12:33 ◼   ► that was constantly thinking oh is this

01:12:35 ◼   ► a funny thing to tweet this this thought

01:12:37 ◼   ► that just came into my brain is this a

01:12:39 ◼   ► funny thing or I'm at someplace and like

01:12:42 ◼   ► oh is there a picture I could I could

01:12:43 ◼   ► put on Twitter at this place that I am

01:12:45 ◼   ► and by removing Twitter from my phone

01:12:47 ◼   ► and just took that away and then I'm

01:12:48 ◼   ► just not thinking about that anymore

01:12:51 ◼   ► but again it's like if you are going to

01:12:53 ◼   ► be a successful vlogger you start

01:12:56 ◼   ► thinking about everything in your life

01:12:58 ◼   ► in those terms of is this for the vlog

01:13:01 ◼   ► yeah right is this for the vlog and I

01:13:03 ◼   ► feel like I need to make this super

01:13:04 ◼   ► clear like this conversation is not

01:13:07 ◼   ► based around the fact that oh if I

01:13:08 ◼   ► decided to do this I would become a

01:13:10 ◼   ► megastar like that's not what I'm

01:13:12 ◼   ► thinking here when we talk about being

01:13:13 ◼   ► successful

01:13:14 ◼   ► it is me trying to attempt to get to a

01:13:17 ◼   ► place where I might be in that position

01:13:19 ◼   ► like I don't believe that if I made a

01:13:21 ◼   ► video

01:13:22 ◼   ► every week for six months that I would

01:13:23 ◼   ► be like the next Casey nice that but

01:13:25 ◼   ► right because there's many people who

01:13:27 ◼   ► make videos every exactly not but I

01:13:29 ◼   ► can't unless I put the work in I could

01:13:31 ◼   ► never get to anywhere unless I put the

01:13:33 ◼   ► work in and I've just decided that I

01:13:35 ◼   ► don't want to put the work in to even

01:13:37 ◼   ► try and attempt to become someone who'd

01:13:39 ◼   ► be considered a part of the bloggers and

01:13:40 ◼   ► they're like as part of that work ya

01:13:43 ◼   ► know the conversation here is not that

01:13:44 ◼   ► you would be inevitably successful

01:13:45 ◼   ► there's there's a lesson here for

01:13:47 ◼   ► everyone who might want to be a vlogger

01:13:50 ◼   ► which is that you can strip-mine your

01:13:53 ◼   ► life for the public and still be

01:13:55 ◼   ► unsuccessful as well and you get nothing

01:13:58 ◼   ► right so that that was part of it was

01:14:00 ◼   ► like I give up everything maybe get

01:14:03 ◼   ► nothing back and it's like do I really

01:14:05 ◼   ► want to take that risk and then one of

01:14:07 ◼   ► the other big things for me which is a

01:14:08 ◼   ► lesson that I will want to impart to

01:14:10 ◼   ► anyone I was dreading the creation mmm

01:14:14 ◼   ► that's a bad sign that's a really bad

01:14:16 ◼   ► sign exactly so I would be like I'd have

01:14:18 ◼   ► my toss come up to be like okay you've

01:14:20 ◼   ► got to start working on a vlog like

01:14:21 ◼   ► you're approaching the end of the month

01:14:23 ◼   ► and I'd be like I don't want to do it

01:14:25 ◼   ► for a project that's supposed to be a

01:14:26 ◼   ► fun side project that's terrible nothing

01:14:30 ◼   ► else that I do do I feel that way and if

01:14:33 ◼   ► I ever start to feel that way of

01:14:34 ◼   ► anything one of two things happens I

01:14:37 ◼   ► ever change significantly the project or

01:14:40 ◼   ► killer and I've always worked that way

01:14:42 ◼   ► and I decide and when I came to the

01:14:45 ◼   ► realization I was not enjoying thinking

01:14:49 ◼   ► about necessarily being forced to make a

01:14:51 ◼   ► video that was when I deleted the task

01:14:53 ◼   ► right and that happened in the summer

01:14:55 ◼   ► so the recurring task of create a vlog

01:14:58 ◼   ► went away so then you will notice my

01:15:01 ◼   ► frequency went down because then I only

01:15:03 ◼   ► just started making vlogs about one they

01:15:04 ◼   ► wanted to make vlogs about and then one

01:15:06 ◼   ► of the bigger ones was when I was away

01:15:08 ◼   ► for four weeks over the summer I

01:15:10 ◼   ► recorded a bunch of vlog footage to

01:15:13 ◼   ► create a huge vlog Alvin I got home and

01:15:15 ◼   ► I had so much footage I didn't know what

01:15:19 ◼   ► to do with it and then that was when I

01:15:22 ◼   ► kind of decided that this probably isn't

01:15:25 ◼   ► the thing for me I mean it's been an

01:15:28 ◼   ► interesting experiment personally I'm

01:15:31 ◼   ► kind of sad that you're not going to be

01:15:32 ◼   ► vlogging frequently like obviously the

01:15:34 ◼   ► writing was on the wall a little bit

01:15:35 ◼   ► with this as the frequency dropped I did

01:15:39 ◼   ► really enjoy your vlogs but I do I do

01:15:42 ◼   ► think that you have still come out of

01:15:43 ◼   ► this with you learn how to do a new

01:15:46 ◼   ► thing and you have also established the

01:15:49 ◼   ► existence of the mic early YouTube

01:15:51 ◼   ► channel it is there whenever I want to

01:15:53 ◼   ► do something with it yeah it's no longer

01:15:55 ◼   ► the case of if you want to upload a

01:15:57 ◼   ► youtube video you'd be starting from

01:15:59 ◼   ► Ground Zero that you now have some

01:16:02 ◼   ► inbuilt audience over there and it's

01:16:05 ◼   ► like if if you feel like there is a

01:16:07 ◼   ► video that you want to make that you

01:16:08 ◼   ► feel compelled to make you have a place

01:16:10 ◼   ► to put it and it has a place to start on

01:16:14 ◼   ► YouTube with with some pre-existing

01:16:16 ◼   ► audience that is already there I have

01:16:19 ◼   ► ideas for standalone videos that I will

01:16:21 ◼   ► make in the future but it's just nothing

01:16:23 ◼   ► that I want to necessarily start on

01:16:25 ◼   ► right now and every now and then I get

01:16:28 ◼   ► something that pops into my head around

01:16:29 ◼   ► like that might be a fun thing to make a

01:16:31 ◼   ► video about and so it like just gets

01:16:32 ◼   ► locked away and I'll talk about it later

01:16:34 ◼   ► and one of it I mean and it's maybe

01:16:36 ◼   ► sounds kind of sounds weird but I'm

01:16:38 ◼   ► happy that I have put as much time into

01:16:42 ◼   ► talking about this on this show as I

01:16:44 ◼   ► have because I die I follow a lot of

01:16:49 ◼   ► people that are successful and talk

01:16:50 ◼   ► about their successes and the things

01:16:52 ◼   ► that they're doing the things that they

01:16:53 ◼   ► don't this has clearly been a failure in

01:16:56 ◼   ► what I attempted to start with like

01:16:59 ◼   ► where I am when I was talking about this

01:17:01 ◼   ► doing this project to where I am now

01:17:03 ◼   ► like I have failed to achieve what I was

01:17:06 ◼   ► hoping to achieve from this and it was

01:17:08 ◼   ► because my feelings towards it changed

01:17:10 ◼   ► so I'm happy to share that as a thing to

01:17:13 ◼   ► say like this is something that happens

01:17:15 ◼   ► to everyone you start a project and it

01:17:18 ◼   ► just doesn't go the way that you want

01:17:20 ◼   ► and that is totally fine for you to then

01:17:23 ◼   ► just move away from it and I feel I

01:17:24 ◼   ► actually feel better having moved away

01:17:27 ◼   ► because all of the time it's like oh but

01:17:29 ◼   ► I started this thing and if it doesn't

01:17:30 ◼   ► work out and I stopped doing it like how

01:17:33 ◼   ► does that look like I look like I kind

01:17:35 ◼   ► of failed or like I look like hey I

01:17:37 ◼   ► couldn't do it but I feel better being

01:17:40 ◼   ► comfortable in saying that it's done

01:17:42 ◼   ► like I'm not gonna attempt to try and

01:17:44 ◼   ► push this further than it needs to go

01:17:46 ◼   ► because I've always I'm just gonna hey

01:17:49 ◼   ► and I don't hate it and it means that I

01:17:51 ◼   ► can still come back to making some

01:17:52 ◼   ► videos when I want to but I didn't suck

01:17:54 ◼   ► everything out of it and I'm kind of

01:17:57 ◼   ► happy to share that

01:17:58 ◼   ► yeah and killing projects is a vital

01:18:02 ◼   ► skill okay if you can't do it then Yin

01:18:05 ◼   ► you could never do anything right

01:18:06 ◼   ► because you're just dragging along these

01:18:09 ◼   ► old projects behind you all the time

01:18:10 ◼   ► when I look at my younger self I think a

01:18:14 ◼   ► skill that he was not so great at was

01:18:17 ◼   ► killing projects and yeah it's like that

01:18:21 ◼   ► that's one thing if I was if it was to

01:18:23 ◼   ► go back in time and try to advise my

01:18:25 ◼   ► younger self about like how'd it get

01:18:27 ◼   ► what he wants out of the world faster

01:18:29 ◼   ► what one of the things would definitely

01:18:31 ◼   ► be hey buddy let's go through your list

01:18:34 ◼   ► of things and let's decide that some of

01:18:36 ◼   ► these are over sooner let's do that

01:18:39 ◼   ► because it frees up your energy and time

01:18:41 ◼   ► for other things yep

01:18:43 ◼   ► like for me talking about it here

01:18:45 ◼   ► nothing has changed because I am I'm

01:18:49 ◼   ► making the same amount of videos as I've

01:18:51 ◼   ► been making the last few months which is

01:18:53 ◼   ► none mm-hmm but now I am addressing it

01:18:56 ◼   ► mm-hmm

01:18:57 ◼   ► right like nothing's nothing's different

01:18:58 ◼   ► like I'm not making more or less videos

01:19:00 ◼   ► but I am now addressing the fact that

01:19:02 ◼   ► don't expect them and kind of I feel I

01:19:05 ◼   ► feel relief in that just like well now

01:19:08 ◼   ► nobody's expecting the vlogs because I

01:19:09 ◼   ► told you never to expect the vlogs

01:19:11 ◼   ► expect that there will be YouTube videos

01:19:13 ◼   ► sometime in the future but don't expect

01:19:15 ◼   ► them to come anytime soon and or to be

01:19:17 ◼   ► anything that you expect them to be the

01:19:22 ◼   ► Mike Hurley channel is just gonna be

01:19:24 ◼   ► your your channel of what you want it to

01:19:26 ◼   ► be whatever I ends up being whatever

01:19:29 ◼   ► that is a man so you can take up the

01:19:32 ◼   ► mantle now you can be the vlogger yeah I

01:19:35 ◼   ► know I never put it down like if I could

01:19:40 ◼   ► give past me some advice that would have

01:19:43 ◼   ► saved him some time which is ablator

01:19:44 ◼   ► when you were talking about it would

01:19:46 ◼   ► certainly be hey shoot less footage when

01:19:53 ◼   ► you sit down and you've got four weeks

01:19:56 ◼   ► worth of vlog footage like but that will

01:19:58 ◼   ► kill a vlog I tell you that right now

01:20:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's as one of the many

01:20:04 ◼   ► reasons there's been delays like boy

01:20:06 ◼   ► don't don't capture everything you'll

01:20:09 ◼   ► regret it

01:20:11 ◼   ► it's a next episode we're gonna do

01:20:14 ◼   ► something we've never done before we're

01:20:15 ◼   ► gonna watch a documentary mm-hmm and

01:20:19 ◼   ► talk about it in kind of the vein of

01:20:20 ◼   ► cortex book club so it's kind of a book

01:20:22 ◼   ► club but a documentary like oh like a

01:20:25 ◼   ► documentary club for work sure that's

01:20:29 ◼   ► the working title we'll go with that one

01:20:31 ◼   ► the cortex documentary Club for work

01:20:33 ◼   ► there is a documentary about the team

01:20:36 ◼   ► behind South Park called six days to air

01:20:39 ◼   ► this documentary I've seen a couple of

01:20:42 ◼   ► times and I thought it would be

01:20:43 ◼   ► interesting to bring to the table

01:20:44 ◼   ► because these are people who create an

01:20:47 ◼   ► episode of a TV show within six days

01:20:51 ◼   ► every week so they create a weekly show

01:20:54 ◼   ► and every episode is creative in six

01:20:56 ◼   ► days and it is interesting to watch a

01:20:59 ◼   ► team work under this incredible deadline

01:21:01 ◼   ► pressure that I thought it could be

01:21:03 ◼   ► interesting to talk about on the show

01:21:04 ◼   ► now it is worth noting at this point

01:21:07 ◼   ► this is a documentary about the TV show

01:21:10 ◼   ► South Park so it includes clips of South

01:21:13 ◼   ► Park episodes and lots of South Park

01:21:17 ◼   ► humor which can be very questionable and

01:21:21 ◼   ► awkward in some places so I say and I'm

01:21:26 ◼   ► like it's not that the humor is

01:21:27 ◼   ► questionable there's no question that it

01:21:30 ◼   ► can be quite vulgar there you go that's

01:21:32 ◼   ► a lovely way of putting it yes it is

01:21:34 ◼   ► tasteless like is this funny or not like

01:21:38 ◼   ► that's not the question yes yeah the

01:21:41 ◼   ► question is more what you want to see it

01:21:45 ◼   ► so you probably know at this point if

01:21:47 ◼   ► this is something you want to watch like

01:21:49 ◼   ► if you don't know South Park I recommend

01:21:52 ◼   ► not watching it if you know you don't

01:21:54 ◼   ► like South Park I recommend not watching

01:21:56 ◼   ► it we're gonna take a look at how the

01:21:58 ◼   ► team works and just talk about that

01:22:01 ◼   ► we're not gonna talk about the content

01:22:03 ◼   ► too much because it's not important for

01:22:05 ◼   ► the overall discussion yeah this is this

01:22:08 ◼   ► is just a thing that has been on our

01:22:09 ◼   ► list for a long time when you first

01:22:11 ◼   ► mentioned it and I have wanted to see

01:22:14 ◼   ► for quite a while because I think the

01:22:16 ◼   ► the two guys behind South Park are

01:22:19 ◼   ► uniquely prolific and they also from

01:22:24 ◼   ► what I have gleamed they work in very

01:22:28 ◼   ► different ways and they have also had

01:22:31 ◼   ► careers over now a fantastically long

01:22:36 ◼   ► period of time yeah so I think that like

01:22:39 ◼   ► that they are at the intersection of a

01:22:41 ◼   ► bunch of things that I'm interested to

01:22:44 ◼   ► see a documentary about how they're

01:22:48 ◼   ► working so ever since you mentioned to

01:22:50 ◼   ► me that this thing existed I have wanted

01:22:52 ◼   ► to to see it but but yeah so just to be

01:22:54 ◼   ► clear like our interest in seeing this

01:22:56 ◼   ► is how do they work it's not really a

01:23:00 ◼   ► conversation about like what do we think

01:23:02 ◼   ► about South Park because I think people

01:23:04 ◼   ► already know what they think about South

01:23:06 ◼   ► Park

01:23:07 ◼   ► yeah you either like it or you don't

01:23:08 ◼   ► like it and there are probably extremely

01:23:10 ◼   ► good reasons for both depending on your

01:23:12 ◼   ► opinions I will say that I don't really

01:23:16 ◼   ► like South Park I kind of never have