00:00:04 ◼ ► wranglers oh you just need to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► here where it's cold and it'll convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► you not to buy he got only half a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/9">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► snowing right now I don't wanna hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/13">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► your lip about how we don't have winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/14">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► you just want to be driving around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► no roof and no doors no roof no doors no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► stability no quality no safety yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► definitely no safety it's got a roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► cage for chrissakes how you gonna tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/25">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► me no safe yeah so if you get t-boned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► that I'm sure the roll cage will save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► you the doors well oh wait yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► a reason they had to add a roll cage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► breathe on funny oh come on that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► stability controls for this computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► solve us from physics anyway I want it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► probably a problem nate'd let her go far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/47">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► vehicles that you have lusted after for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► a week here and there I think a Wrangler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► is actually one of the less offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► ones it's pretty offensive it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► not a good vehicle it's either that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► go far so John what would you have me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► have between a Wrangler and a Golf R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/65">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► easy go hard no contest yeah if though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► if those are your choices I'd go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► John on that yeah those are the only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► choices it's not it's not a choice at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► better choice than your weird Cadillac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/76">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► rectangle thing and your SUV dreams but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► I don't I think I think the Cadillac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► better than the Wrangler to like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► trying to think of a worse car and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/84">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► I'm coming up with is one of those giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► four-door luxury pickup trucks yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/87">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► but at least those have a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► function than a Wrangler no it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► ridiculous things also if it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► reminds me demure oh did a review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► what was it the g65 an AMG G 65 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► that's right I might have that wrong so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► it's a twin-turbo v12 G Wagon and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/111">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► so we did a video on the guoguan and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► got it gets better every time I say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► he did a video on the guoguan and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/124">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► all right so how about this I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► Quadrifoglio but how about that or Golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► R or Wrangler what would you have John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► Quadrifoglio of the go far even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► I seen him in real life now I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► white one the other day and I thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► you I say it does not look good in white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► holy shit it doesn't look good in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► color but like this I've seen enough now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► that I know it's not just like oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► it looks weird in pictures but it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► good in person I don't like it anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► I don't like pictures and I like it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► box I don't like it with a fox John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► love you but you are so wrong about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► no I just don't like how that car looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► but it's a good car if for while it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/163">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► reliability could be fine it's too new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► like this is the new Alpha but we'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► no it's not look here's a here's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► something fun and fast unless it is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► by a Japanese company Lisa yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► Japanese company that's also at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► mildly affordable so like the Toyota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► burro would be it's not that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► fast you know you got a GTR which is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► much money and that's it that's all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► got maybe NSX is fun and fast it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► unaffordable it wasn't one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► criteria just you're gonna lease it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► you're at least least the NSX it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► come on alright let's say even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► this is over my budget let's say for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► so for 50 grand what do you get that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► Japanese fun and fast I rest my case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/211">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► I mean look a Wrangler is not fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► either but it but you you find fun for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► to me a Miata would would be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► version of that and plenty fun yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► that's a good midlife crisis car for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► after your second child is is in third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► grade but no I'm serious so I mean my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► options are Civic type-r which means I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► would need to install a paper bag in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► car to wear over my head every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► drove it no they won't let you buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► you're over 25 I've heard the type r is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/248">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► unabashedly truly hideous to look at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► get it in black maybe try to hide all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► that's the answers just take the wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► off like do a wing delete if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/265">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► it's all wing there is do you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► wing off they just left with the chassis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► that's it the entire body that car is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► wing or a scoop there I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► there must be some kind of like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► know marketing differentiation here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► work we're like they have to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► Civic are so hideous that it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► detract from sales of the NSX from older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► people with taste maybe but the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► Civic is kind of gross to like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► they just had a styling a styling fart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► generation of civics like ever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► getting great reviews people say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► great cars yeah so much so that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► the best parts of them are showing up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► the Accord but the styling isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► I mean if you think about all kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► aside I mean you can get a Wrangler spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► to like 40 or 45 grand or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► that which is truly absurd you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Wrangler spec before I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► getting into the pickup truck territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► Jeep Wrangler great that makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► good job I wonder how I thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► trying to move on now brought myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► right someone the Chairman even pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► out like the Wrangler with like leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► television screens on the backs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► seats like that is a car that has lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► its way weight honest question are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► back seats in a Wrangler like or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► there actually enough depth there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► is where you got to keep your 17 friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► but you go surfing Wow they go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► back seats quote-unquote their seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► no front seats aren't seats is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► know a bunch of boards with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► piece of vinyl stretched across it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► was the last time you were in a Wrangler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► John I'm so over you right now so anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► ever really entering or they just on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► why do you do this to me why do this why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► see nobody everyone see here we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► about fancy snow tires on my fancy Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► but everybody wants to hear you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► about your terrible car ideas of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► this cheap crappy car I have like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► intervention of Casey Casey's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► suggestible when it comes to like his he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► has like a car shaped hole in his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/383">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► and just anything like Jeep Wrangler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► like this yeah and so I don't know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/396">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► like he runs across the wrong ad or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► wrong YouTube video and just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► know I should get a Winnebago next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► is gonna be like why not he just saw our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► house to afford it my parents briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► had like a little tiny which calm RV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► I am still a little upset that they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► I was joking but there it is yep that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► that's the seed that and that seed will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► grow in your mind until maybe three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► years from now twenty one thousand forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► one thousand two hundred thirty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► dollars for new Wrangler holy schnikeys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► what just why at that point why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► there are so many better things in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► way tell me what tell me what for okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► to Honda Civics I would rather drive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► mondo civics than then around like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► to one in a different color like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► know just alternate the excitement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► having two cars that you rotate raid one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► for cars if one car has a repair it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► much less than if one you could drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► both of them to the ocean at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► time I don't think I would need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► that quite them you've never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► need to go apparently the magic keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► with numeric keypad is bendy and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► that's something we're supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► upset by because I tell you what when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► get a new keyboard the first thing I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► is a bend test to make sure it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► bendy no not not bendy you didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/487">TS</a>]
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00:08:27 ◼ ► official name but you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/507">TS</a>]
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00:08:30 ◼ ► box and put it down on the desk in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/510">TS</a>]
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00:08:42 ◼ ► strain of this kind of story is I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/522">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► new magic keyboard take it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/526">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► typed on it for a week and apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► the force of my typing bent it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► middle if you're gonna put only little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► pads or feet on four corners or very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► long keyboard and it's so thin that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► bends in the middle from the force of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► typing that is a pretty big failure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► the functionality of a keyboard now your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► beloved magic keyboard that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► without a numeric keyboard and maybe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► has a short enough wheelbase so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► that having little feets on the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► doesn't make it bend in the middle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► maybe you should just not look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/553">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► keyboard to see if it's bent in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/554">TS</a>]
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00:09:21 ◼ ► size web page that has a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► all of this information I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► it's a manufacturing defect kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► they'll fix the manufacturing defect but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► if it was actually the case that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► mere act of typing on the keyboard bends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► it that's that's pretty bad we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/573">TS</a>]
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00:10:19 ◼ ► glass so you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/619">TS</a>]
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00:10:22 ◼ ► off the wall and crashing down like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/622">TS</a>]
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00:11:27 ◼ ► that you would like to have as holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► gifts even if some of you already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/688">TS</a>]
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00:11:46 ◼ ► to the show and so Paige now you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/706">TS</a>]
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00:11:53 ◼ ► have useful ideas that's also fair I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► thinking about this on and off most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/717">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► today I try to every year and I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/718">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► do it this year I tried it every year do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► a like holiday roundup of here's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► of different gifts that I recommend at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/727">TS</a>]
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00:12:18 ◼ ► boardgame sometimes it's stupid lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► like cables or something dumb like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► but this year I didn't do it mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► because I didn't feel like I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/745">TS</a>]
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00:12:40 ◼ ► useful is for those of us with new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/760">TS</a>]
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00:12:46 ◼ ► good answer now you would have to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/766">TS</a>]
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00:12:51 ◼ ► stand up Qi charger safer at a desk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/771">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► charger safer like at a nightstand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/776">TS</a>]
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00:13:01 ◼ ► option and a pretty safe option for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/781">TS</a>]
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00:13:14 ◼ ► right around this time of year and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/794">TS</a>]
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00:13:18 ◼ ► want I just buy it immediately and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► give anyone else a chance to buy it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/799">TS</a>]
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00:13:23 ◼ ► are too expensive that I would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► comfortable asking for as a gift so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/805">TS</a>]
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00:14:05 ◼ ► seems to enjoy and certain kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/845">TS</a>]
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00:14:36 ◼ ► like a pleasant thing to have around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/876">TS</a>]
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00:14:54 ◼ ► it beyond just five seconds to test it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/894">TS</a>]
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00:15:19 ◼ ► I got their backpack and I just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/919">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► that it's just it's so delightful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► have that any kind of you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► certain people myself included like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► so like you know like a leather laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► case maybe something like that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► that kind of stuff you know but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► this this stuff this is so like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► I like having really good travel mugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► zojirushi makes a really nice travel mug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► that I really really like yeah I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► really know it's it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► know like how to be more specific than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► this but those are all nice things yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► you know hearing you talk gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► couple of other ideas one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► investments I've ever ever ever made was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► what I call my go pack which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► just a collection of cables and whatnot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► anything I would need to charge any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► miscellaneous bits so you know if I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► go overnight anywhere I just grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/977">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► this bag that has all of my chargers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► it always they never ever leave that bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► unless they're you know in a hotel being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► used or whatever and I don't have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► know remove my entire installation from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► my bedside table or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► pack it up and then reassemble it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► get back home it is just everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► duplicate and I've written a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► log posts about that and so I'll put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► link to that in the show notes it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► get pretty spendy depending on what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► want I think I've spent like 200 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► on mine and I'm not talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► bag itself I'm talking about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► bits inside but I have a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► fairly expensive things that I find very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► useful that most normal humans probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► wouldn't and then additionally hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► you talk about your did you say Briggs & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► Riley umm backpack I happen to adore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► anything that Tom bin makes that's T OMB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► IH n it's maybe a little late to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► it for this holiday season unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► are on the west coast because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► Seattle based but pretty much anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► Tom Ben makes I adore and I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► recommend that as much as Marko seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► highly recommend Briggs & Riley as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► so just a couple of quick thoughts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► one more thing also I came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► something more specific in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► category I have gotten as gifts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► other people in the past my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► kitchen thermometer which is the thermo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► works thermapen mark 4 if you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► need for a kitchen thermometer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► if you ever do anything in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► ever you do even if you don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► need one you need one and once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► one you will use it for lots of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► every kitchen should have a thermometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► and a scale and the scale you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► pretty much any cheap garbage it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► really matter the thermometer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► actually matter quite a bit there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► pretty big variations in quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► accuracy and speed and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► what you want is the thermapen mark for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► from thermo works it runs about 70 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► usually when if you find a good sale I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► think it's about 90 if it's not on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► this is the one like if you see like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► Top Chef if you ever see anybody using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► kitchen thermometer it is probably this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► it's awesome this is like the I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► gonna say the Cadillac of thermometers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► but Cadillac aren't that great anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► are they this is this is the Tesla of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► thermometers like this it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► generally and like you know I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► Phoenix earlier with the LED flashlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► thing and those are like 50 bucks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► know so these aren't cheap but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► really nice when if you're the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► person who values quality and nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► things but almost everyone is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► something you know it might not be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► the same things that you or I are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► almost everyone can appreciate quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► in something and it's really nice when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► you can find something like this in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► everything else in the category is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► of mediocre garbage and if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► figure out what's like the one really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► awesome thing in that category even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it's a little bit ridiculously priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► that kind of thing makes a good gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► because the kind of thing we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► people who receive it can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► appreciate something really awesome like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► that but because it's expensive and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► obscure they might not ever know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► it or they might not feel justified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► spending a price for it so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► perfect kind of thing that makes a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► gift is like I wouldn't have bought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► but I really appreciate having it yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► do agree that that is one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► gifts the oh man this is great but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► so glad I didn't spend them honey huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► that is that is the sweet spot John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► we've delayed you far too long what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► your thoughts I reject the premise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► this question which is that we should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► should list things that we like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► people who listen to the show like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► same things that we like I mean we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► even if we already have them like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► is one task but the the second part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► partnered with a TV fans the idea being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► that if we list things that we like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► people who like the show will also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► those same things and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► that's true like just because we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► that means we like them everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► hopefully so oh yeah and also I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► terrible giving gift so even if I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► good ideas for gifts that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► listen to me so that's very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► thank you John yeah and I put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► question in there and I basically put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► in just to say can you come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► list of but and the answer for me is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► I can't I cannot do that because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► think I should I don't think it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► sense and even if it was phrased so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► does make sense I'm bad at that so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► glad YouTube filled in page just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► you and your partner know that Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► I are your favorites and John is my and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► it too aspect what do you ask for I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► not as bad as Marco in that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► immediately buy everything that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► but when people ask me what they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► get me my answer is always nothing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► is probably the worst thing you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► if someone wants to get you a gift so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► I'm just terrible all around when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► comes to gift stuff yeah honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► would love to get to the point with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► family where like like maybe we just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► gifts for the kids right like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► that seems like a better way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► but which say this is I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► the kind of like many adults wanted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► outcome but it's very hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► families to agree to that we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► close like we should have like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► family map of like how far like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► we've successfully spread the only gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► for kids name we've done pretty fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► rob Fiorentino writes how do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► about your code or your apps after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► have written them are they more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► your children or your tools out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► shed I will speak for myself and say any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► code that I've written more than three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► days ago is always garbage and any code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► I've written in the last three days is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► often garbage John I'm not sure like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► with the children or tools thing I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► sure like what what Rob is getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► there you can take a lots of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► ways like you know tools in your shed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► children like I don't know anyway I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► just tell you how I feel about my code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► because I don't understand that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► it I think he's just saying you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► it is it disposable and you're like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► whatever or is it oh this is my creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► for and it is perfect in every possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► way I mean like you said Casey it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► depends on the time line sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► write code and as soon as you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► writing it you just hate it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► like you just got to do what you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► other times you're you can be mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► satisfied with it but there is I there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► really no such thing as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► concerned as code that I write that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► can look back on the long term and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► see all the terrible problems with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► a couple years down the line no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► how incredibly happy you are with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► something you I will I always do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► what's really wrong with it it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► if only because if that code lives on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► like if it's if you're aware of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► existence it probably means that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► still in use which means that it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► be modified to account for you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► changes of reality like you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► change and you have to modify an augment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► inevitably you get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► you are modifying your code in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► you do not anticipate when you wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► and nothing makes code uglier it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► you more annoyed with it then more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► trying to change it in ways that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► wasn't meant to be changed like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► never thought things would change along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► this axis you always thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► bedrock assumption would be true when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► the entire system was built around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► then that bedrock assumption is not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► and you're like oh god do I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► whole thing how can I change it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► too much like and then so you just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► bad about it so it's mostly the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► time goes on and the more it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► change the more bad I feel about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► Marko pretty much all my old code I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► at it as yeah this this is just garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► and it's a burden like I I love deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► code I love when a library comes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► that removes the need for some code I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► written I can just delete my code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► use the library or you know new API is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► from Apple one those come and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► I I code to accomplish something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► like I code to build a product the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► actual code I take very little joy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► or interesting or clever like I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► take no joy in any of that so I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► code and immediately even as I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► it I'm like oh god I don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► to maintain this I don't like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► want to have to do this crazy thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► but it's all to accomplish the end so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► basically immediately after my code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► written I don't like it and I just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► to move on if I can yeah I mean I gave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► slightly Starkie answered and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► everything I've written I hate and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► is only slightly snarky do you feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► most of the time but all kidding aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► in my entire career and I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► this for jeez like 13 years now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► there have been maybe probably five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► less like blocks of code I don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► that is like five lines I mean like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► projects maybe it's a better way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► phrasing if they've been like five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► less projects wherein I've written some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► code and thoughts myself you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► something really good and/or clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► there and usually clever is bad when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► comes to code but occasionally I'm good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and and so I think all kidding aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► probably five times the last my career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► I've looked back and said that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► was good work everything else is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► well it didn't immediately turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► fireball so I consider that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► that no one else is telling him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► change to you know change his product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► ways that he didn't anticipate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► changing because he's the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► decides how it's going to change him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► if anyone has any kind of idea how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► might change in the future it's him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► because he's gonna be and it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► he's saying he predicts everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► you never have he never has someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► coming and saying you should add this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► feature that is that flies in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► of your entire internal design of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► application even if he has the notion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► do that he's not forced to do it on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► abbreviated timeline or like all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► of like the pressures of the real job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► that forces you to do things chef when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the iPhone 10s coming out and you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► make the release yeah yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► right but but does that's that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► that's more like just that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► the entire job is is using someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► else's api's you know you don't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► UIKit you rolling with the punches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► apple's platform you're writing on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► of a platform is everyone has that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► whatever you're writing on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► framework and that framework changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► you gotta you know roll with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► punches too like but I'm saying for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► the things that your actual product does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► so I think it makes you feel worse when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► you have to change your thing in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► that it was never meant to be changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► and you know whether you think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► good idea or not it has to happen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► does like the worst damage to even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► code that you that you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► know was was arranged in a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► way and designed in a reasonable way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► have to go in there and basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► injure it and scarred and make it uglier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► and just makes you want to just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► look at it again and tear it all down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► and start over and you know I know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► favorite pastimes on the show is to bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► on Marco for not having a job however in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► Marco's defense I have to stand up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► Marco on this one I feel like just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► the last few days Marco and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► how much of this you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► on the show so I'm gonna be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► cagey about it but just in the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► days you had maybe not an emergency but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► a oh crap moment where some external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► force forced you to do a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► things and write a whole bunch of code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► that it seems like you if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► planning on doing it at all it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► to be long in the future and so I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► think John you're you're usually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► but it just so happens that it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► like Marco you've just gone through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► recently so how do you feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► code whether or not you want to discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the motivations behind it I'm happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► referring to is overcast handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► permanent feed redirects or feed changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► for podcasts basically the way I built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► the overcast crawling infrastructure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► database is that feeds have feeds are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► keyed uniquely on URLs so that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► every feet and feeds map one-to-one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► URLs and those URLs really can't or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► shouldn't change in the feed like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► have a new URL gets a new feed entry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► then episodes are represented as feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► items and feed items are keyed based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► plus then like you know a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► random numbers based on like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► hashing their contents and then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► GUI D and stuff and so once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► feeds and feed items match to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► feed URL it's not trivial to then move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► those subscribers to a different feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► everything they have subscribed to will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► be different and I can't easily change I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► can't just like modify the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► on the old feed to point to the new feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► without having lots of other problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► and everything else and also worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► noting is that the feed items table is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► 170 gigs now the table that map's users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► to feed items is also about 170 gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► these are the two biggest and highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► traffic tables and overcast it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► hard to modify these tables at all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► modify the schema to add indexes or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► change the schema talk to run alter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► tables on it it pretty much can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► completed in any kind of real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► fashion the only way to really change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► that would be to set up a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► database as a replica modify it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► make it the new master and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► just a lot of administration work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► it's it's risky it involves you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► downtime and I hate doing it and so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► this is to say that for for overcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► modify what URL a feed entry points to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► is a big deal and so for since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► beginning of overcast the way it handled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► redirects was in HTTP terms it treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► them all as 302 is temporary redirects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► so if it encountered a redirect it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► follow it when crawling the feed but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► would never update the source URL to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► point to a new one if it encountered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► 301 code which is the permanent redirect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► code this works on the web because on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► the web it's pretty common practice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► if you like host a website at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► domain name or a certain path and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► change your URL scheme or you move hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► it's kind of known on the web that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► you're supposed to set up a redirect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► pretty much indefinitely that like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► the to ever change URL without having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► redirect in place because then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► losing all your like search engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► ranking and your inbound links from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► other places and everything else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► it's kind of understood as a best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► practice in the web that you don't break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► redirects ever so on the web a permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► redirect is much less important to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► treated as such because you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► always crawl one of the URLs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► something used to be at and if it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► properly maintained it will get you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► where the feed is like when we were then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► where the new one is podcasting doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► work that way in practice so all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► time when I've been doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► basically like treating this like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► web where like I just kind of assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► that if I follow a redirect it'll always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► be there in podcast a lot of podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► first of all aren't web programmers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► know a lot of podcast producers and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► know they come from like the media world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► there's also all sorts of podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► hosting and analytics and advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► platforms out there that all that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► want to host your feed for you at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► services quite successfully to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► podcasters and the big podcasters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► them their entire world is iTunes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► with iTunes you don't have to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► permanent redirects forever if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► change your feet you can just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► iTunes what your new URL is and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► move for you for it's for itself and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► for Apple podcast subscribers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► you don't have to think about it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► so the concept of having permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► redirect setup is in practice not known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► or not practiced by most podcasters they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► are happy to move their feeds to anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► elses service anyone else's domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► whatever new ad tracking insertion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► platform they're using this six month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► period they're they'll move it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► time and they don't consider what web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► programmers will consider you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► necessary for that so I could say here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► all that's as much as I want and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► blame them and say well you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► your problem not mine but the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► it becomes my problem it is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► my problem and it's my and I'm the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► who needs to fix it and find a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► because what happens is when a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► American life moved their feed and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► broke the old redirect and I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► had like 80,000 people telling me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► their number one podcast was broken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► overcast and this was bad simile it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► became my problem very much so at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► time I didn't have any any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► subscribers between feeds in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► wouldn't just break everything and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► American life has another problem where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► they don't keep their back feed going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► like they they only keep the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► handful of episodes in the feed once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► something is older than a few weeks old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► you can't download it anymore you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► to I think I think they sell them or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► can get them in their app or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► but you can't download them out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► so if I move people over to a new entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► that doesn't have all those back catalog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► episodes for this American Life that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► pretty big problem especially for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► show because it's so popular and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► of times people will save save APIs ODEs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► for like months at a time like they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► save up a big back catalog so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► get to go back and realest in or gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► save it up for like long car trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► whatever else so there's all these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► very very fragile conditions in which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► have to be very careful what I do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► handle redirects if anything and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► original plan up until now of just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► handling them was breaking down pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► badly the driving factor this past week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► was that books bookcase was looted too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► the New York Times podcast the daily is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► very very popular the daily moved their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► feed overcast didn't handle didn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► the redirect and the old feed wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► redirecting to the new one I was hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► about it from a lot of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► eventually we worked it out and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► had heard they arranged to to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► temporary patch but ultimately this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► kind of like one of the many wake-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► calls I finally had it was like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► need to handle redirects also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► SoundCloud is falling apart and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► like they're probably not long for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► world so like and a lot of pockets were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► hosted there so there's maybe a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► feed moves there and and there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► different ad insertion platforms now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► changing their if you'd address again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► it's it's a big enough problem now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► crawling setup like this it has to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► a way to have permanent redirects like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► environment now too many popular shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► move too often you have to do it so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► I've been working on for the last you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► know I don't know a week or so is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► is permanent redirects and making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► work and it's really not good like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► way I do it is really not good but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► only way I can do it without totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► modifying my database schema and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► through like sysadmin hell for weeks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► I do that not to mention lots of costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► associated with that and possible bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► potential so I really don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► that so what I do now basically is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► crawlers because it's speaking of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► old code my crawlers are are the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► thing I have written and go and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► haven't written really any go since so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► my ghost skills are very rusty and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► look at the crawler code now and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► complex because it was not only is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► written in this language that I've used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► for nothing else so like my skills are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► dull but also it's at the first go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► particularly great go code like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► like me learning the language and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► like everything's in one big file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► it's kind of all over the place and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► me to track redirect there I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► to modify the go code and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► trying to do that at first to solve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► few other problems it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► looking at this like I just want to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► this on fire like I have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► this does I'm so scared so she goes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► it mostly has worked for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► I don't want to touch it but so instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► I made a separate process a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► process in PHP my comfort language I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► know it's like comfort food like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► it's not good for you but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► anyway so I made a PHP separate cue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► redirects and if a feed is redirecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► to the same place that is also an iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► registered feed for more than I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► two days it's a threshold at then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► will take all the subscribers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► basically create new entries for them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► their entries in the old feed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► delete the old feed description so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► the user the only thing that appears to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► happen is all of a sudden the episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► for one of those shows that could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► they all just redownload for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► everything else is preserved played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► unplayed states whether its start or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► progress if you're partial this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► that's all preserved that just gets re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► inserted and with the new IDs but you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► have to redownload because the client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► sees them as new entries basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► that's now in place there's now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► queue that runs those things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► going through the backlog it took way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► too long for me to do this I'm glad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► I wish I had a slightly more elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► solution that wouldn't require read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► downloading but that would just be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► more overhead so I'm not gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► yet maybe down the road if it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► big problem and then like once I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► like once I hacked I had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► actually checking for 301 redirects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► and for the new iTunes new feed URL tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► which is inserted it's like what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► who aren't familiar with podcast who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► just know web programming this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► make you cry that like the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► can redirect a feed for podcasts is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► leave the old feed still there returning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► a 200 response code but you put an XML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► tag in the RSS feed that's iTunes : new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► feed URL and just leave that there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► few days and iTunes picks it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► moves your feed for you and then the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► feed just can sit there not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► episodes added to it or can just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► deleted and stop working like that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► like I'm telling you this is what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► programmer me when I started this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► thing is like I don't need to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► that's terrible no one's gonna really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► that but no people really do it and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► increasing frequency and yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► anyway once I had this redirect check in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► working I was able to see quite how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► very popular shows have had redirects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► since 2014 when I started crawling them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► and it's a lot some of them were simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► like moving from HTTP to HTTPS like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► that's a very common one like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► relay shows did that lots of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► popular shows have done that but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► of them are just moving to different ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► platforms and insertion platforms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► publishing platforms and no one hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► their own feed in podcasting it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► so it's it's a mess out there and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► had to deal with it even though I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I was so opinionated about like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► need to do this like that's it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► should have redirects in place forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► but that's not the reality and I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► had to you know adopted that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► so yeah so occasionally you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► things and do them on the double because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► other people weren't thinking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► but it's not his boss tell him to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► though he's his boss he's the one he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► to the point is he got to delay doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► for a really long time because he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► redirect but it was saying like no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► no one is forcing you to add an about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► screen that includes a car racing game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► to your to your thing you really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► have your display system no no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► making you support video podcasts if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► don't want to no ones deciding you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► to have a recipe manager and a to-do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► list inside it that's the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► we respond to this week by hover domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2458">TS</a>]
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00:41:05 ◼ ► your first purchase building your online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► brand has never been more important show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► the world who you are and what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► passionate about without tying it to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► particular publishing platform or a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► email platform that happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► popular this year or this five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► because that changes over time and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► know my first email address was at Juno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► calm and and I when I bought markers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► Oregon in 2000 that was the last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► had to change my email address and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► anybody at that oh please I put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► address book nobody ever likes that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► also have hosted my own website at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► own domain name since that time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► web host change platforms change social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► networks change and it's it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► nice to have a domain for your home base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► for what you tell people to represent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► you online for your email address for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► your website have your own domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► and if you're gonna do that you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► register it somewhere and hover is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► favorite registrar they have over 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► domain extensions from the classics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► ComNet org to all the new fun ones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► diamonds dot plumbing there's no tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► or shady upsells or scammy add-ons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► anything like that and they respect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► privacy by giving you free who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► you time like hover connect for fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► setup or if you want fully advanced DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► control they have that too if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► any help at all their customer support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► is top-notch it's just a great place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► register domains I have almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► mine there now and I keep moving more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► because it's just Pleasant it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► when I need it and it's out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► when I don't it's just what you want out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► of a domain registrar so check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2548">TS</a>]
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00:42:37 ◼ ► hover get a domain name for your passion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► so back to ask ATG thankfully thankfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► we have a quick one to round us out uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► Stefan Kozlowski writes do you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► pronounce the command su do as su do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► sudo and I will start by saying I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► understand that it stands for super user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► academically correct answer but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► always pronounced it sudo to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► this question because I think I do both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► both out loud and both in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► conclusion I came to by like tracing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► through the times that I have said it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► thinking about it I think I I think I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► both I don't know it's not a satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► answer but I think good the reality I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► pronounce it wrong and I don't care I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► proud of it I say sudo and I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► super user do I'm very aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► however I don't care to me sudo is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► pronunciation yeah I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► wrong that's just one of two very common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► pronunciations like who's to say which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► is I don't even know if that does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► less common one it may be for all I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► it's a Linux thing it's definitely wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► there's always whatever you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► everyone does with Linux a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► will say it's wrong well I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► think it's in the running for to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► the more popular one because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► said it is a word PSE you do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► the fact that you know people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► substitute a word they're noticing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► was when I was talking about I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► just saying like you know basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► conceptually in my head I read that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► pseudo like I read it as a word that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► I know what it means it's like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► fluent in a language like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► thinking about like it's a component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► parts I'm thinking like oh I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► pseudo do this command like that is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► own word in my head I don't think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► oh I need to superuser do like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► make a directory I think Oh make Durer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► like I or mcdr like I think that in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► head like as I could component parts so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► I don't like think about that is in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► don't say like you know make Dyer its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► dur for directories so but pseudo to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► like that has become its own word in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► head so that's why I pronounce it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► way I do I don't I don't care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► the component parts of it and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► John tell me about your blacks black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► screen of death this could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► follow up and I'm trying to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► think it's it has wandered a default and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► I was just like practically a weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► segment where I complain about my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► in some way you know people gave me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► much crap when I was complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► my laptop's not systemic complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► these are specific complaints for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► most part sometimes just updates unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► my life with the Mac with like the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► bar thing was not really a complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► about touch part just telling you like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► tried to use it and it wasn't for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► like it you know I mean so that's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► but anyway this is and this this might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► not be a laptop bug but it's a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► I find myself in frequently and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► those things where I don't know where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► blame it but it just it makes my overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► experience with this thing worse I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► I mentioned it before that so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► this docking station and it's great when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► everything works well but sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► gets cranky when I undock it so undock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► and I go out you know all undock with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► in clamshell mode and I'll go off to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► meeting or something and then I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► arrive at the meeting open up my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► and everything about it will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► perfectly except for the screen is 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► black and I used to know that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► was working perfectly back when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► touch bar was not in the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► mode that I changed it to or it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► shows the function keys all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► because I would unlock with touch ID or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► unlock by typing my password into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► totally black screen and then I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► command tab and I could see the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► bar changing as I command everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► I'm assuming the track that is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► if I could see the mouse cursor here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► be moving I could you know type keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► commands that I know worked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► frontmost application you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► I could if it if you could use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► without seeing the screen it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► working for the screen was a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► percent black and nothing I would do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► that computer sitting there would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► that screen not be black put it to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► wake it up again and close the lid open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► it the only way I found to bring it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► is a hardware way where I would use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► little they have some little dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► thingy that goes in the side that gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► you like a USB port an HDMI and a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► other crap plug that in the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► then plug the the rooms monitor into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► HDMI port and that would wake up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► would first of all it would stop my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► machine would start projecting on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► the external screen but also would wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► up the internal display all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► that's I've had this book really a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► time and it's annoying sometimes I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► had to leave the meeting room go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► my desk get my dog oh come back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► room plug it in plug in the HDMI monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► and then my thing was awake anyway I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► to this problem and I'm calling this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► black screen of death even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► not death it's like in limbo it's alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► but blind this happened to me where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► unplugged my thing because I was on hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► to get home unplugged it and I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► use my laptop at home and I got home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► opened it up and sure enough black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► screen and I didn't have my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► dongle because it was back at work so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► couldn't do the one magic hardware thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► that makes my screen but I'm back - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► tried so many other things I tried SS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► aging into it from another machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► I tried plugging in other things I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► getting out my very own Apple branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► HDMI dongle and plugging it into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► gaming monitor which is HDMI and turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► everything on and that didn't wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► the screen in the end I had to hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► reset the thing which really annoyed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► that's why I spent like 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► trying to bring this thing back because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► I was in the middle of a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► you might not support you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► surprised to hear that I had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► windows open I had a lot of things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► on you know I just I had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► terminals a lot of shelves and no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► don't use any one of the million things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► that can let me resume my shelf yes I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► sorry I'm disappointing all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► and all the other things to do that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► right I also use none of those things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► always have tons of terminal tabs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► right anyway I was in or that I lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► everything that I was working on and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► to hard reset my computer who wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► start reset and the worst part is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► not hardly saying it cuz it crashed I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► not hard resetting it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► frozen it's not like everything was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► except the screen was a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► black so this is really putting a damper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► this bug and the possibility that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► bug can be there - when it happens it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► kind of like the month thirteen is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► everything is mostly working but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► some part of it that's not working that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► you feel like someone should notice so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► you know I would like I think something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► in the operating system should be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► after a certain period of time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► there is a no monitor attached and B the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► screen is entirely black and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► think that's a sustainable state and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► lid is open I think that set of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► there should be some assertion in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► operating system that says if no monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► is attached and the lid is open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► you're awake but the screen but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► screen is 100% black fix that like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► it not be like that I'm hoping that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► the thing that can detect and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► know who to blame maybe I blame the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► docking station maybe it's an OS bug who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► knows but anyway I don't like laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► are you on High Sierra on this yes oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► no I'm not I'm run regular Sarah sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► okay so that sort of it probably isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► like a well I guess I just a noob OS bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► at least footage not like CR was bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► free either I don't I don't know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► is it's just my latest in a long line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► infuriating sort of bugs on my laptop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► I can assure you that this is not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► not a bug that has been fixed in High [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► Sierra but it is not unique to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► laptop because my Marco book Pro that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► use at work that exhibits this same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► behavior now I wouldn't say that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► happens all the time I wouldn't even say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► that it happens terribly often but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► only solution I had come up with for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► was occasionally I can sleep it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► reopen it you know close the lid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► reopen it and then sometimes it'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► disconnect external monitors reconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► external monitors but just like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► additionally there are times I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► just kill the machine and bring it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► so this is a clamshell problem this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► software problem this is not a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► MacBook Pro problem and that is very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► I mean it seems like there must be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► hardware aspect to it because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► think merely closing the lid and opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► it I think it's the fact that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► attaching an external monitor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► something about the I've attached a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► monitor please detect that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► and start sending your video signals it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► oh you just yanked it out I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► handle that like it's it's related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► the fact that the hardware configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► machine is changing like I've never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► you know once the computer is working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► isolation I'm not plugging anything into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► it I've never seen it happen there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► I close the lid and open and the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► doesn't turn on so I don't know but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► like the these type of problems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► often waking from sleep problems it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► not like that but I feel like waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► from sleep is almost more explicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► it's like well the computers not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► awake and so like obviously it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► working this is the worst because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► it's so clearly so clear especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► a touch bar that everything is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► just fine that the computer is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► it just refuses to display anything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► the screen and I find that infuriating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► should also add since this is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► the airing of grievances it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► holiday season after all I should add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► that my Marco Book Pro is now going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► have to go in for service when I'm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► over the holidays because it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► if you plug in and remove what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► port on the side what is the thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► but it's also known as mini displayport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► yeah thank you if you plug and unplug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► mini DisplayPort cables every single day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► turns out they start to fail over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► so Monday when I got to the office I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► tried to plug in my two LG 4k monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► and one of them in particular wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► plug in for the longest time I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► switch around cables I switched around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► you know where I was plugging them in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► was it was not nothing I could do to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► it could get it to work and then finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► we I had a actually my head IT guy come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► over and look at it and he plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► his Marco Book Pro and it worked no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► problem immediately unplugged it plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► it back in work no problem so it appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► that either the graphics card is dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► or the connectors are getting screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► in some way shape or form so I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► Marco that in your beloved Marco book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► Pro that you are not often time often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► using the Thunderbolt ports because over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► time after a year or two after a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► of years you might find them failing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► good luck yeah it's one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► that the move to USBC made a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► that USB see as far as I can tell so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► the connection does wear out over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► just like many of them do however it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► seems like the parts that wear out are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► mostly in the cable end and not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► port end so it is kind of annoying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► especially when it's your power cable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► your new meant to your new MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► but it does seem like that's probably an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► easier fix long-term that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► probably just replace the cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► those conditions for USB C but the mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► DisplayPort connector that then became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► thunderbolt connector that's never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► a good connector like you know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► the big problems with it is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► cables are kind of loose in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► there's nothing like holding them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► really they can just very easily like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► slide out or get a little bit dislodged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► or a little bit like jaw sold and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► yeah I will defend a lot of great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► about the 2015 era retina MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► however the design of the thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► port is not one yep so I kind of wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► had a thunderbolt 100 but one I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► a touch bar one but then ain't never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► gonna happen my IT guy refuses to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► any touch bar MacBook Pros and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► it's because he's smarter than me yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► well I mean think about it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► point of view of an IT manager at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► company like a computer that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► have a pretty high keyboard failure rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► compared to most computers and and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► if people who defend this keyboard even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► if that rate is 20% that's still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► high for a computer that has only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► existed for a year if that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► failure rate you see on a pool of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► new computers and if buying them would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► have to would make you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► rebuy a whole bunch of dongles or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► display things or projecting things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► things like that for like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► office you can totally understand why an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► IT manager would be like yeah that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► we can't we can't afford the down time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► for the keyboards that's a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► for the IT people to have to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► know get the pull those out of service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► from from the company when they when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► keyboards break get them repaired put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► them back in the service like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► figure out things in the meantime like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► that's a huge burden on an IT staff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► even even before all that you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► all the dongle stuff so that makes total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► sense like I totally get it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► honestly that's probably why Apple still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► sells the 2015 model new in the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3345">TS</a>]
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00:55:52 ◼ ► just want what they've been buying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3352">TS</a>]
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00:57:49 ◼ ► somehow accidentally procrastinated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► an hour and 20 minutes by my clock but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► we should probably talk about the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► Pro and we for me I started to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► holiday party and made it through about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► a half a drink because I was very busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► tonight so I'm sad to report ladies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► gentlemen that this is not a holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► party for me and I'm going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► endure this sober and I'm doing it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► you the listener so all right guys tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► me about what's going on what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► to endure this aren't you sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► front of a 5k iMac right now I'm mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► giving you a hard time I am and sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► in front of a 5k iMac so you're an iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► buyer this is a computer that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► potentially be for you you like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► kind of computer I do I do I'm mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► giving you to a heart yeah don't you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► a lot of video transcoding and buy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► of Apple stuff in space gray you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► the the I don't the sick thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► iMac Pro is the thing that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► appeals most to me about it is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► that it's Space Gray because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► that is so hot it's so ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► that'll be the first to tell you that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► utterly truly ridiculous that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► I'm most excited about is the color but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► oh my god it looks so good and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► accessories look so good no III snark in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► if you're not a longtime ATP listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► there I don't remember which episode it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► was you know and I probably won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► remember to put in the show notes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► was early on in our run yeah well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► all of them but no early on in our run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► it just so happened that I knew we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► going to be talking about the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► and I don't remember why because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► was no news about it but we were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► be talking about the Mac Pro and I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► upstairs with me in into the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► while I recorded no I didn't spill it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► anything but that part wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► mistake the mistake was that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► brought the bottle with me and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► end of that episode I had had quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► holiday party all by myself and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► anyway yeah you it's very embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► and I and I won't actually I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► won't link it because I am embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► by it and I shouldn't have done it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► you know it is what it is and you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► once anyway the iMac prout does appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► to me we should we should do a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► an overview in just a moment it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► appeal to me I don't think I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► worth all of that money I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► that it's an unreasonable price I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► being that it should be lower I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► saying I have a really nice iMac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► front of me and yes I do transcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► things a lot yes I am getting into video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► now but sitting here now I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► like I need a new computer which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► usually stage one in case you buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► new computer so anyway Marco tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► about what this is what this iMac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► all about we actually do but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► still a lot of big unknowns about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► because as we record this it is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► actually are they are they gonna launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► it at 3:00 in the morning tonight oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► think you're right are we just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► maybe I should start my holiday party I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► have to keep podcasting until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► configurator goes live and I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► don't want to do that but that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► would be there's something to be said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► for how funny that would be and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► go downstairs and get myself more water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► and buy bottle and we can do a holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► party if that's what it takes I I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► staying up til 3:00 in the morning I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► us me and the listeners yeah oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► gonna because like the thing is like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► me like the Christmas season is way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► busy for me to buy a new desktop and set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► everything like I'm way way too busy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► so if I just wait until the morning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► order mine if I order one I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► still telling myself if I said that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► took pause but I don't want to ruin your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► flow so I just I just bit my tongue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► you're gonna order one now it may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► tomorrow I will I believe that it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► not be tomorrow but you're gonna order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► one I mean it's probably it's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► we're gonna be at least eight in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► morning like I'm not gonna wake up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► maybe I mean I might wait until 8:00 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► anyway all this is to say at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► that we're recording we don't know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► of the pricing and the configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► options really like we know what options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► will be available roughly but we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► know if there are certain combinations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► that they will require we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► some of the finer details of some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► options the so that the core counts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► gonna be 8 10 14 and 18 but the 14 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► 18 aren't available until quote early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► next year we don't know what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► really that could mean in two weeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► that could mean in three months so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► there's a whole lot of unknowns and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► yeah and the biggest thing is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► only know the base price at this moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► we only know that it starts at $5,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► is 8-core one terabyte and I think 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► things around which is a great like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► that's an awesome compete like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► my iMac but with twice the cores like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► iMac is 30 gram you know it was the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► CPU at the time I bought it which was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► something like that at the time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► the top iMac is slightly cheaper now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► it's like when you when you spec up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► iMac to be one terabyte of SSD and 3232 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► because of ram you're already getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► about four thousand dollars like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► near that point and so for this to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► eight cores starting at $5,000 and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► it to be the zi online with ECC Ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► workstation you yeah like way better GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► faster SSD like and a whole lot of extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► stuff like am i reading correctly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► like from the reviews that it comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► all three peripherals it comes with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► trackpad keyboard and mouse it's so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► to tell from these early reviews because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► like you said about the pricing you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► like Apple just you know gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► bunch of stuff as I here you go they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► don't they don't say you know wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► even be possible to order it this way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► would you have to like say yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► buy all these input devices but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► get to pick one you know to come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► free with your with your iMac Pro this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► is why you're gonna win the bet you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► gonna make me buy a whole second I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► just get a black trackpad and a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► mouse that's the real the real black tax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► whole second machine no more like $300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► extra yeah I lamented the 150 bucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► whatever was for the black book and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► is a whole new world anyway so yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► all those it to say pricing is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► big unknown for us for like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► details like the configuration that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► reviewers all had was 10 core so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► one step up in the processor line from 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► to 10 core and I believe it was was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► 64 gigs for one 128 bytes of RAM okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► yeah so that's that's probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► be a you know a $7,000 configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► nonlinear price increases are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► going to be 128 gigs of ram and 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► terabyte SSD those are going to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► as much as a car like I never like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► double the price of the of the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► that's half as much nope it is not it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► more no it's not yeah it's gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► you know one terabyte comes to that 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► terabytes might be like you know plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► 400 and then 4 terabytes might be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► plus 1200 it's gonna be like that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► of jump like yeah it might even be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► than that because these are big and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► interesting thing about these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► computers and we knew this already but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► think people are relearning it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► physically saw them mm-hmm and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► case touch them even though you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► supposed to person but they're there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► no upgrade ability in this this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► question we asked the person who's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► like you know is the RAM Sarge and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► Border's in a slots he said it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► slots but you can't get at them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► there's no little door for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► upgrade the RAM there's like you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► figure this machine from Apple and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► buy it and that's it now in theory you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► could like I fix it could probably find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► a way to open this thing up and take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► the RAM and upgrade it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► nothing really stopping you from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► it's not like it's locked with the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► or whatever except for perhaps a secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► boot boot thing which we'll get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► minute but who knows how they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► know integrating that with their RAM but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► essentially there are no upgradable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► parts inside this thing that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► allowed to change or that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► bring it to an Apple store and say I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► like to buy more RAM can you put more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► RAM in this room the apples because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► know it the RAM that you got is what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► kind of same thing with upgrading to CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► or any sort of Oh stuff like that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► if you're gonna have a machine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► totally sealed up this is the one to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► it on because the iMac the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► of it is it's all in one right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► know the Mac Pro is coming and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► that really highlights what we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► will be a very important difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► between the iMac Pro in the Mac Pro the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► iMac Pro has the freedom map to say 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► sealed box configure the way you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► and that's it you know no doors no flaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► no upgrading after the fact it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► the Machine you get is a machine you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► leaving the paving the way for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► Pro to take the opposite choice so some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► people are kind of annoyed at that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► feel like it is a reasonably smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► differentiation and differentiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► between these two machines so it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► to you why would I buy this one machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► over the other it's like what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► and beautiful and elegant and simple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► clean and sealed up and done and done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► it's the iMac and if you want the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► thing it's the Mac Pro well I mean it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► be fair we don't actually know yet well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► had a Mac Pro will be upgradable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► down but we're hoping I mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► tube was slightly upgradable like Ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► you can you could add Ram that's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► could swap out the SSD to I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► separately yeah it was it wasn't like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► think it was like they MDOT - whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► thing it wasn't entirely you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► can be goodbye so the whole point is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► was you could open the case and pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► things out of it whereas this for all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► know there's like it's glued together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► like I don't even know how easy just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► even get inside this thing I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► probably like every other iMac like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► know all the components appear to face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► the back but you can't open it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► back probably so you probably have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► like remove the screen and glued on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► right right and yes oh sorry it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► probably like magnets like the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► but anyway yeah it's probably very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► similar to the construction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► 27-inch iMac today so you probably can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► get into it but you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► because it involves so much like surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► on the screen that laypeople really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► shouldn't do it because you will risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► damaging things we're getting dust in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► there or whatever so it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► like yeah like Apple can do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► their technicians can do it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► shouldn't it looks pretty clean inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► from the pictures they have on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► website if you look inside there if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► back came off in a reasonable way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► pretty nicely laid out the RAM is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► easy to get to it's sitting right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► in little dim slots you could pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► right out like it's got a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► heat pipe arrangement but the central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► heat sink and the two fans and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► looks nice in there it looks like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► you know sweated the details and made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► look a nice on the inside even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► nobody's ever gonna see that except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► an Apple technician and you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► part of it breaks or something yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► ultimately like I am very excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► this machine I was I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► excited about it when it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► this past summer but I'm even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► performance numbers and that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► getting the first reviews that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► out the best review that I've seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► far is the mkbhd review he's had it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► he said about a week and he's a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► creates and produces very high-end video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► content so he's he's editing like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► high bandwidth like high resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► video on this thing and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► really that really pushes it one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► major concerns I had with the iMac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► when we first heard about it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► believe we talked about it in our live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► show at everybody this past summer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► my main concern was like how does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► handle being under load because my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► regular 5k iMac it's a very graceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► machine until you really ask it to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► annoying fan noise and the fan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► family spins up and it's loud and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► it's just kind of ungraceful and a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► Pro historically has not done that um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► you know Mac Pros usually are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► take pretty much any workload and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► be dead silent or close enough to sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► that you won't hear it in an average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► room and so I really missed that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► going back to a consumer level product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► like the regular iMac or a laptop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► when it's when it when you put under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► load and you hear the fan spinning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► always kind of feel like yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► really isn't made to do this very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► and you know so anyway III heat and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► it deals with heat is is a big question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► mark for me upgradability is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► known thing at this point like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► meaningfully upgradable since 2012 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► desktops you know the the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► that's been upgradeable about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► desktops anytime recently has been RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and even that is slowly fading away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► the rest of the lineup so really to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► like the upgrade ability thing is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► significant it matters I think more for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► necessarily getting a good deal up front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► like in the olden days you'd be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► buy a macbook or whatever or a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► book and go get third-party ram from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► crucial or owz or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► and save a bunch of money on a high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► figuration by buying the parts yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► and putting them in from third parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► those days are long gone for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► lineup desktop to laptop like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► thing you can still do that for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► Casey's iMac and you shouldn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► look what happened to Katie's iMac I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► waiting for somebody to make that joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► and prepared to make it myself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► reason you shouldn't but like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► the second use case is just longevity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► if you buy it then you're happy like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► buy a 32 gig arrangement and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► happy and it turns out that this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► is so reliable and the screen just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► gorgeous year after year that you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► thing is five years old and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► you know what this thing still does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► everything I needed to do but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► use a little bit more RAM because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► thought 32 would be enough for me to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► what I needed to do forever but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► latest version of adobe's whatever sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► is just a ram monster and I would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► like to have 64 and that's where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► want the ability to say yeah I used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► for five years for 32 and it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► to extend the life of this machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► letting me upgraded to 64 and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► totally could on this machine if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► could get inside it in a reasonable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► but you can't so if there was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► RAM door you would yank out the RAM five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► years later and put in some new RAM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► same caveats about third-party RAM yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► the whole reason Apple doesn't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► but it really does extend the life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► the machines if you can add an SSD to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► thing that had a spinning disk or at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► faster SSD or expand the RAM and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► basically all you've been able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► with any Mac for the longest time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► you've been able to do anything at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► but it does extend the life of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► machines I mean just my Mac Pro's I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► be the obvious example where so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► the insides have been swapped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► rotated and just gotten better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► better over time that extended life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► the machine if it was still the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► bought it when it was new it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► completely unusable right now oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► but like you know but that was also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► many ways a product of the times that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► went through like the SSD transition is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► you know that's not gonna happen again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► right listen maybe we move to like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► RAM computers yeah but even just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► video card I've got so like three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► four video cards in this thing each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► faster than the next that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► extended the the you know the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► life of the machine yeah it's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► so but anyway like I feel like like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► of those days are over like there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► good section on connected this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► where Steven talked about the video card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► upgrade ability of previous Mac pros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► like usually like you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► want upgradeable Mac pros like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► usually think of it if they haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► it before they think of it from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► PC builder perspective where if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► in the PC world but you know building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► Windows PCs you can like swap out video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► cards with all sorts of different great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► options all the time everything costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► very little money relatively speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and you have tons of great options when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► only ever been limited to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► handful of cards that actually supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► the back and this has been true of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► peripherals even when you even when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► Mac Pros work the bore the tower style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► like what you have them but I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► have like you couldn't just put in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► PCI Express card in there and have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► work like many of them would but most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► them wouldn't and or they or they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► work partially it was more than you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► think you did more than you think of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► at the flashmob because it's mostly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► based on the architecture like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► makes drivers forward usually for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► specific card so a lot more cards than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► would work anything but even if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► just a handful of cards it's not yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► you don't have the selection of a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► builder but to have the option to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► faster card in there even if you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► have literally one choice there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► one choice that you can buy that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► faster than your current one it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► better than zero choices and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► things I've put in the notes here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► is a tweet from bare feets the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► that does lots of this kind of testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► emphasizes this fact they were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► they have benchmarks like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► these are OpenCL benchmarks so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► things that run on the GPU of the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► Pro and then they pitted it against a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► 2010 Mac Pro and the 2010 Mac Pro was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► faster why because the 2010 Mac Pro has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► a replaceable video card and like Margot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► said there's not a lot of choices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► what you can put in the 2010 Mac Pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► there are a couple of them and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► them they were able to put in there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► architecture as the GPU and the IMAX Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► so it same the Vega or every perhaps at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► 64 so they put that card in and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► it's the same architecture and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► Mac OS has drivers for it because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► iMac pro it's able to use that card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► just so happens to the card that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► could fit in that gigantic 2010 Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► tower that has tons of room for cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► and everything that card is just faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► than the one that's in the iMac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► the iMac is a slower card it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► clocked slower because it's a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► thermally compromised environment and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► if what you care about is performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► GPU performance in your 3d programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► and your open CL whatever program 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► Mac Pro is faster than an iMac Pro and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► think this also highlights the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► the Mac Pro might play will the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► maybe maybe not but I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► important thing for these type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► computers for the Mac Pro or even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► the iMac Pro is to be super fast when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► you're release which I think this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► qualifies like it's got lots of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► application then you use them it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► really make a difference in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► the storage on this Mac Pro is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► really fast that the iMac pro is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► fast it's faster than the laptops right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► and so that makes it the fastest Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► Apple has because the old Mac Pro is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► old and it's got you know the GPU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► plenty fast right but to fulfill its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► role as the iMac Pro I feel like next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► year there needs to be a much faster GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► in the iMac Pro or you know like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► needs they need to update the internals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► of this iMac Pro on a reasonable basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► fine they're not upgradeable fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► Apple itself has to upgrade them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► revise them because otherwise it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► just get more and more embarrassing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► your 2010 Mac Pro every year you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► a new GPU to get you you know a 2x speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► boost and whatever it is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► doing and the iMac pro year after year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► like the internals don't get upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► and if the Mac Pro is there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► upgradable same story technology marches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► on and at the very very top end Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► computers that are competitive with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► computers to continue to be competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► and if they don't want to revise them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► then merely make the certain components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► upgradable and people will buy a PC Vega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► card that is faster than the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► they had before and flash it and throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► it in there and it will work because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► drivers work with every car in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► architecture and I'll be happy that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► biggest concern here is the thermals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► I believe them when they say they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► gotten this - they've gotten the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► enclosure to cool the the up to 500 watt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► load that they are putting in here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► it's designed for but it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► there's not a lot of headroom like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► this was this was exactly the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► they had with the 2013 cylinder Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► you know Craig federighi famously said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► that they designs those into a thermal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► corner it seems like the 2013 Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► was designed with just barely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► cooling power and even then it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► really quite enough because of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► with this seems like they went into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► like you know John you mentioned last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► thing we talked about this that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► they went into the design brief of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► seemingly with like fit Pro workstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► grade components into the iMac enclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► well why like why couldn't it be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► little bit differently shaped why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► couldn't it be designed an enclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► that supports program components like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► the reverse exactly and so because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► that because they they went in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► apparent goal or requirement of fit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► into the iMac case that was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► designed for this amount of thermal load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► I mean the this case was designed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► 2012 or was launched in 2012 and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► launched with the first well with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► second-generation 27-inch iMac even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► retina one was not designed for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► like it is a this was before the 5k we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► we have shoved so much stuff into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► exact same sized enclosure that in 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► they probably were not thinking of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► when they designed the the shape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► ventilation and and size and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► else with that in mind with the thermals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► as a severely limiting factor probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► here I worried that on two fronts number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► one I worried like how much did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► have to clock down the GPU and the CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► to fit here and that gets to what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► were saying of like if they're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► ragged edge of their thing if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► had to down clock things there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► basically that they couldn't support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► cooling and the only way they could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► at things to fit is they had to say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► everything that and that I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► that's true that's just been a rumor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► a while that like basically all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► components are running it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► slower speeds from the GPUs and the CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► and the RAM and every part of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► not a lot down clock but just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► bit and the only reason you do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► because you couldn't you couldn't cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► them running at their their full speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► and that I mean maybe that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► compromise for like hey this is a slim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► computer it's all in one you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► a big box you don't have a big thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► whatever I don't think it's unreasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► but it does you know optimistically say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► this now further emphasizes why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► might want the upcoming Mac Pro because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► presumably that one will not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► down clock its components and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► they will therefore be faster and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► more Headroom and everything so and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► gets to your point Marco about if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► had to down lock things that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► concerned like about all the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► reliability and about noise and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► could be argued that the twenty thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► MacPro the trash can the privileged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► noise above for reliability like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► very quiet all the time but maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► should have been a little bit more noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► because there was lots of our reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► problems with the GPUs right so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► they made a different choice here that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► one thing that I found lacking all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► reviews is a rigorous testing of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► noise I mean they people gave their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► subjective you know reviews it or ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► but I'm looking for someone who's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► fanatic loner then like I am about fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► noise yeah and I wonder too like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► reliability that that's not a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► point you know because nothing in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► is really serviceable because even Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► getting to it is is challenging I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► know taking off the screen probably on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► everything and because they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► expensive custom components like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► not a machine that I would want to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► certainly would never buy one out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► warranty and I would probably try to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► sell it out of warranty because I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► that if it's operating at so close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► the thermal limits of this enclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► because this enclosure wasn't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► designed for this it's it's similar to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► laptop where like laptops often run like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► pretty warm if you push them like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► the time and laptops tend not to last as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► long they tend to have reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► problems or components break or you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► like heat fatigue and your GPU falls off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► or things like that like there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► sorts of problems with laptops with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► things that run too hot because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► they have such constrain enclosures this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► is basically a giant workstation laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► in a big screen like in in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► like it is clearly very thermally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► constrained the old Mac Pro towers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► and even the trashcan Mac Pro those had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► configurations the main problem the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► trashcan had was if you actually stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► the GPUs that would cause a problem if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► you just stressed the CPU is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► because that that was it was designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► with the kind of asymmetric triangle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► heatsink in the middle there it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► hot side before the CPU and two kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► hot sides which were the GPUs and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► long as the kind of hot sides didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► super hot it was fine but unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► that's not how people work anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► they sold it as a GPU workstation which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► is kind of a problem so and but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► it could have been done as it was as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► quietly as it was if they just made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► little bit bigger the main problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► probably just they wanted to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► it was very impressively small but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► that's something that like nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► really asking for and instead they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► made it unreliable if you stress the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► GPUs anyway with this they feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► they've been the same thing with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► they've they've they've kept it super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► thin and on the edges just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► current one and and the back of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► pretty small too and they've kept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► same enclosure but why nobody was asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► for that and it has severely constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► them didn't even put that many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► events like the vents are bigger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► like the back of us is not covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► vents in places where the regular ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► aren't they hid the vents behind the leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► just like they always do so it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► clean from the back and that isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► like not only are they keeping the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► the same which you know presumably has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► big advantages in terms of cooling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► don't have to come up with a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► case design you don't have to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► with a whole new set of machines to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► carve out your case like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► different some different slotting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► the thing and you know whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► know if that's actually as the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► savings that as it might seem to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► there's something to be said for for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► know keeping something's the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► they could have made the entire back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► this thing like a giant cheese grater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► and that would certainly allow more air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► flow into and out of this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► would have allowed you to have bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► lazier slower spinnings fans instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► two relatively fast ones pushing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► air out of the central thing and pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► all the air in through these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► slits right so it's all very elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► looking and everything I mean and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► don't you know we don't know where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► are we're worrying more than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► else we're not saying this is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► going to be thermal problems even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► down clocking thing is just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► I've read there's a rumor and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► actually seen anyone pull out the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► speeds for all the components and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► here are the speeds for the components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► and if you put these things in a PC you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► would never collect them down like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► if you had adequate cooling like so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► don't know but but that gets to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► heart of what you're talking about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► like the reason you pay for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► and all that other stuff is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► reliability factor if the reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► thermals in the form factor then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► makes this a less compelling purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► right like I don't I don't want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► professional workstation you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► thousand and up dollar computer to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► operating very close to its thermal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► limits from day one because especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► since I can't service anything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► what that tells me is I don't think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► is going to last as long as a tower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► my current iMac I think has similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► issues I think that I think that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► inherent in the iMac design that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► when you constrain things with thermals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► things don't last reliably as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► that's been the case for all computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► hardware forever when you can give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► more thermal Headroom they last longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► and they run more reliably and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► run more gracefully under load and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► important to say what you said which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► like we still don't know we haven't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► this yet we none of us have won we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► haven't used it and the reviews have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► been very clear about you know load and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► thermals and noise and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► but that is a that is a major concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► for me at least that they cram all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► designed to handle it and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► they did a lot of work on the cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► system and redesigning the internals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► everything it was still a case that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► not designed for a 500 watt workstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► great components inside so that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► main concern is like is this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► going to last and as I mentioned a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► months ago I think I'm not sure I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► to spend $6,000 on a great computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► is gonna be really flaky in three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► you'll just sell it before then anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► so maybe but I don't so that stops that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► often I mean look I'm still using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► 2014 iMac now and so I really only seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► the reviews of this I really want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► I've really really do because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► want a speed upgrade I do so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► parallel work that would benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► those new cores so so much I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► the black trackpad would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► benefit from both the faster disks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► the well I don't know if they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► this or faster and random success I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► haven't seen that but like I like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► the this subsystem I think is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► short shrift here because first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► I think the 2016-2017 s was much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► than it was before people don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► for a large data transfers like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► know for if you're doing like video or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► something like that and again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► know how it is for random access with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► bunch of small files and stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► love seeing stuff like that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► people don't think oh it's got an SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► and they think SSD equals SSD equals SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► but these get faster and part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► advantages of buying expensive for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► hardware is it should have the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► as the the fastest interface and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► numbers coming out of this is like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► gigs per second read and write sustained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► through the internal storage and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► great that is better than that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► than KC's a little MacBook adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► right a lot better and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► they both have s's these are they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► same speed they are not right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► what I want out of a pro machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► that's you know this machine for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► processing 8k video and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► that's a lot of data to move on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► the disk into and out of RAM and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► know all thumbs up on that that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► one of the things attracting me to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► machine the reason I think that for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► many applications like the very fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► Mac that Apple sells maybe won't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► everything that you do faster especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► if you don't take advantage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► multiple cores but you know if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► bandwidth even if you don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► the CPU cores to the GPU this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► best disk machine if you just do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► with GPUs this is far in a way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► gonna be the fastest GPU even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► don't care about the cores and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► care about the disk like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► to like even if you're not gonna use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► every aspect of this computer and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► you have to pay for the other aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► too which is the reason people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► cranky like I just want the good GPU I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► don't need Zeon's I don't need all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► those stuff sucks well you get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► right is expensive it's just the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► is but having to pay for it all to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► like a good GPU is way better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► literally having no option except to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► a 2010 Mac Pro and a third-party in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► there yeah and the final thing I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► about here before we before anybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► one is is having this much heat going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► be a problem for the screen you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► this this iMac was designed in 2012 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► the components behind it were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► 85 watt to 100 watt load probably now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► is having that amount of heat right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► against the back of the LCD panel going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► to be a problem for the longevity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► quality of the LCD panel like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► gonna develop like a splotch in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► right quadrant near the middle where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► processor is on the back like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► know like how do LCDs handle very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► heat being you know generated on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► component that is stuck to the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► them for three years these are the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► of thing I'm worried about like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► like I'm so excited about this machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► and I'm probably gonna buy at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► but I don't know like these are problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► that I wouldn't worry about if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► tower and I intend to buy the tower when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► that comes out to like the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► I'm even talking about this now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► because TIFF wants me to buy this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► that way I can give it to her when I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► the tower so that's probably what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► going to do but it's hard not to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► about those concerns when I went like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► I've been a little bit burned by IMAX in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► experiences with towers you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► surprised that you're you're harping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► the thermal stuff so much because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► seems to me like Apple has got to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► what the thermal requirements for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► thing are and with the with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► trashcan yes they design themselves into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► a corner in that they didn't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► of headroom which is what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► before but it's not like it was broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► the moment to chipped and so well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► I really don't and having seen it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► briefly I saw it you know when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► as did John and my record recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► of that that brief window of time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► spent with it was that I could hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► fans even despite the fact that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► in a very loud demo room and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► deliberately because it was a very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► pre-release model and they just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► wanted to crank the fans up to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► 11 to make sure that whatever they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► demoing on-screen which I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► remember anymore you know didn't cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► any problems and those fans I'm sorry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► report gentlemen my recollection were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► they were loud now that doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► they were gonna be loud always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► doesn't mean they're gonna be loud every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► Dhar and xcode but it certainly seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► like it was capable of moving a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► lot of air and you you very what could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► be right I mean obviously all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► us are just pontificating at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► but I would be really surprised if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► see widespread thermal issues with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► thing I mean it has been extensively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► redesigned on the inside specifically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► avoid that very problem but so but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► so is the trash can like and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► exactly what it had was maybe not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► day one but a GPU failures due to heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► right and so like that was that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► was the the major and I think the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► sort of systemic hardware problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► the trashcans and marco is sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► right now in front of a computer that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► says runs the GPU too hot and his isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► even a pro so there's some reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► believe that Apple doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► cooling stuff licked for stuff stuck to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► the back of a monitor even if it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► really hot stuff like this so I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► is reasonable to be concerned given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► recent history about this and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► just worried like we don't know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► find out right but there's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► with this is the only real way to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► that out is to be like me and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► I'm not gonna buy one of these for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► first two years just to find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► the deal is but you can't you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► can't do that if you want one a day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► you kind of have to pull the trigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► say whether like are you gonna buy it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► you're not gonna buy it and that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► the worry comes in you won't have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► when it comes out within the first month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► or two you you won't have time to see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► six months does everyone fire all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► GPUs or not so you just kind of gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► cross your fingers or you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► prepared to sell it to somebody else or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► you know do what Marc was gonna do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► may end up working out which is Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► gets the computer he stresses all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► CPU cores encoding mp3s and compiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► stuff and then he passes off to TIFF and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► she stresses GPU believes the CPU alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► because she's just playing games on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► and doing Photoshop stuff because also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► all GPU stuff yeah so you'll you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► spread the heat so you get a splotch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► one side of the screen and then a spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► yeah III really hope that it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► because all the reviews are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► positive and these are still as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► these are very early reviews but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► and man skylake Zeon's are awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► according to these reviews like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► this is a big deal on the processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► front because the ten core version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► they've seated the reviewers seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► have 10 cores without a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► single core performance penalty like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► in the previous generation little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► penalties all orden it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► slightly slower single core than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► newest iMac at the top top spec but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► and it's obviously way faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► multi-threaded and so like the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► promises put is supposedly that the 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► also doesn't take a small because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► used to be like yeah you take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► hit but them and you go up to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► the maximum core con is you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► pretty significant hit in a single core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► and so the theory of these is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► 10 core takes a little hit the 18 core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► will be similar performance to the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► core and single thread so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► you're not you don't have to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► horrible choice between well if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► awesome performance in my parallel tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► I have to give up the single you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► give up a tiny bit and it doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► worse as you go up in core we'll see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► that's true but that's that's the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► the pitch the main concerns for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► people here when they see this our price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► and lack of upgrade ability and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► are very valid concerns but it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► very good value for what you get for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► workstation parts like a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► look at the pro line as john said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► earlier because they want like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► good GPU for gaming se but that's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► been with the Mac Pro has been very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► at you could you could do that with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► but it was a pretty inefficient way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► sometimes even performance wise you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► you can get like GPUs that are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► decent for gaming but that's not why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► they're selling them here and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► expect people to buy it for that reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► and when you compare it to the price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► just building a gaming PC which John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► should have done years ago it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► not even close and PC people and and Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► people who just want to play games look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► at this and say look I can build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► gaming PC for way less money and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► true but you wouldn't put a Xeon in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► and you wouldn't have like a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► apple 5k display in front of it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► workstation class other stuff and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► I'd like the workstation class SSD like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► you wouldn't have all that stuff so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► actually go to like Dell or HP or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► somebody and spec out workstation grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► components in a workstation that match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► the components in this that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► like a Zeon with the same core count on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► a workstation GPU and workstation great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► SSD that's super fast if you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► get them to give you one it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► pretty competitively priced for from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► what we know so far again we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► the pricing at the upgrades yet but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► the base price and what you get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► base model that's actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► reasonably priced it seems if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► looking at and if you spec up an iMac as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► I said like if you spec up a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► iMac into this territory of performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► and capacity and everything you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► already getting into about 4000 so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► get like you know double the cores four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► five thousand is not unreasonable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► don't think in addition to all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► upgrades so value I think from what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► know so far it's probably fine lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► upgrade ability is a big thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► think this is just the era in which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► live now I think the reality our laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► again have been upgradable for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► years for five years for most people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► meaningfully if at all and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► the world we live in now and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► the reality is upgrades have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► getting fewer and fewer they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► getting increasingly problematic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► Casey has with his RAM because as things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► get super advanced they also tend to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► more picky and more specialized and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► harder to find and make their party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► stuff that actually works look how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► it takes people to make third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► things for like the the custom Apple SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► modules and a lot of laptops and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► many of the recent desktops you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► like it's just things are even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► integrated so I think the era of upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► ability is really pretty much over for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► most computer things and I say this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► happily because I always did that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► participated very heavily in that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► would always like you know buy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► laptops with like base configuration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► then spec them up with third-party parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► to save money and to get you know bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► capacities and stuff and upgrade down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► the road with an SSD to make it faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► and everything and that was a great time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► for a long time but I think the time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► over you know the technology has moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► on the market has moved on I think very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► few people really even would do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► additionally now you can't so so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► of closes the door on that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► rather than hoping to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► time where you could buy John's Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► in 2008 and keep it running all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► time with just occasional upgrades of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► relatively inexpensive parts we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► going back to that time like we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► let the parts now or to specialize too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► good even John's computer you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► never upgrade the processors you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► ever upgrade the motherboard make it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► know faster bus or anything like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► just can't do that well you can but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► within a range of like the three that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► were available at that time but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► can't put in a new Xeon into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► motherboard until it changes the socket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► like every two years yeah there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► there was a long stretch of though where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► they kept the socket the same way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► not my model year I think well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► actually was the 2009 someone recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► posted a YouTube video I think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► doing in 2009 and they just upgraded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► heck out of it to basically the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► CPUs that still fit in the socket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► all the other stuff fast and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► wasn't super impressive but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► pretty neat it was mostly interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► just to watch exactly what it takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► do that if I can find the link I'll I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► throw it in the notes but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► you're right like eventually they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► the stock and then you're you're out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► that business or even just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► the new ones require a certain type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► bus speed or RAM type or Northbridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► that yours doesn't have like stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► that like there's always like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► requirements change even if the socket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► meaningfully upgrade your processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► after after after so efforts being sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► you know and so like the error of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► upgradability has been fading for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► time and I think it's very well over now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► it's very very clearly over and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► rather than hoping to go back to a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► that we're never going to go back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► more productive approach now would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► be like figure out how to operate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► this new environment so and and base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► your purchases accordingly so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► if you're concerned about running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► same computer for 10 years well you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► gonna take a big risk on that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► they it might break after year five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► require repair that is gonna be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► than it's worth or it won't even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► available anymore so like my approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► this is I have just gotten accustomed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► selling computers after three years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► you know I buy Apple care from concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► I don't buy it on phones as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► because that's not use not for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► you know for max I sometimes do buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► depending on pricing and concerns at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► time once the Mac is out of Apple care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► coverage I don't want it anymore so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► currently I'm using my iMac does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► just left its warranty and this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► unusual for me I don't usually do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► but the new world where nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► upgradeable might require you to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► buy less perfect and less expensive gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► more frequently than you used to and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► get used to selling it which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► particularly profitable that's but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► like you know you don't have to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► everything into the ground necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► if you want super high-end stuff the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► way was buy something high and upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► you know until something better came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► that you could upgrade the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► to the new way is you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► you can just buy something new every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► three years or two years or four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► and sell via button while it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► worth something it's this isn't a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► solution for everybody but we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► upgradability is gone for for Macs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► even many pcs so that world isn't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► beyond us now so it's it's worth rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► than dwelling on this too much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► trying to fight this fight forever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► worth just figuring out like how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► operate in the new world it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► back for the Mac Pro though even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► just GPU upgrade ability I'm holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► that hope you know we we again we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► don't know anything about the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► because the GPU I mean it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► important for me like the GPU is the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► think the most critical just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► GPUs get so much better year of year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► because the because of the inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► parallelism of the task that all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► can basically you know as soon as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► shrink they can fit more execution units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► and because the problem is so parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► like you actually get a win for that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► they are still on that crazy path word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► you know year after year they just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► they get faster roughly in pace with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► density with transistor density there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► problem with RAM and bandwidth and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► like that but in general they like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► speed increases year over year are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► big that if you are not on that train if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► you can't participate in that train and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► you're doing something that is GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► intensive even if it's not gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► whatever maybe something GPU intensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► involving video or whatever it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► you have to throw out the whole machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► because eventually you know two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► later the GPUs are four times as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► and you're just left in the dust so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► have to be able to upgrade the GPU so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► please Apple make a machine where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► can upgrade the GPU just one just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► make it really expensive but yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► gotta do it please I mean I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► point out that when Apple had the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► Pro roundtable and they announced that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► new Mac Pro will exist some time not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► 2017 they never said upgradable they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► said modular I know that's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► different thing I'm just hoping I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► holding out hope I'm not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► founded on anything other than like then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► just process of elimination of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► could you differentiate from the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► Pro yeah the screen will be separate so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► that's that's the modular part right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► could be upgradable it could be it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► some part of it I'm just I'm trying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► trying to my hopes up because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► still Apple and modern Apple at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► so like the chances of it being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► upgradable if at all I I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► consider that a sure thing like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► you're looking at the iMac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► you're thinking oh I want to hold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► upgradable I would not consider that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► safe assumption it might be upgradable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► but modular simply means like you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► probably be able to configure it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► lots of different configurations up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► front like the iMac Pro comes with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► CPU and one GPU and they're both you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► know within a certain range of options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► here maybe the Mac Pro will come will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► let you pick two CPUs or two GPUs or one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► CPU and three GPUs I don't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► that that's modular it doesn't mean any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► of this stuff is upgradable necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► it might be upgradable but we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► indication that it will be and sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► I would certainly not bet on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► anyway the other point is that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► Mac Pro we don't actually know when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► coming all Apple said was not in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► it might be 2018 it could arrive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► first day of 2018 so soon 2017 ends any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► day could be MacPro day yeah New Year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► Day in the next decade any day could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► Mac from yeah or it could come out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► 2025 yep or it could come out never they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► could just change your mind say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► what actually we we're not gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► anymore like it's it's not even a sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► thing that's going to exist what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► means is that every day every day you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► wake up in 2018 and later could be Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► Pro day this is like KC's doom like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► daily worrying every week the mag Pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► will be announced and released speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► we know it's like we're we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► waiting for WABC and if they miss next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► year then we're waiting for next year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► WWC you know like so we do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► thing to hang our hat on yeah but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► the the Mac Pro could come New Year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► Day or it could come in June or it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► come in December or could come in 2018 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► like so for anybody deciding whether to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► buy an iMac Pro if you're at all on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► fence about whether you might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► Mac Pro instead yeah just just buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► and sell like Marco well yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► it's like you don't really know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► that's coming or even again you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► even really know if the Mac Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► coming like yes apples had they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► working on it but things could change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► over time you never know like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► it until it's actually out you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► guarantee that it will be available like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► you can't guarantee this thing will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► exist and because we don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► about it or even when or if it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► out then I think if you are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► tempted by the iMac Pro and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► patient and you're you know and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6358">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► need to buy something soon and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► really can't wait until June just to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► if it'll comes out by then then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► this isn't a bad option at this I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► feeling my prediction here what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► the iMac Pro is probably going to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► good and it's probably going to satisfy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► so many Pro needs that when the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► does finally come out it's going to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► really badly and then Apple will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► that as justification to really finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► MacPro to be a single release product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► line I don't expect it to ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► another update after its initial release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► because I don't think it's going to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► well and I say that not happily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► I want that computer but the iMac Pro I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► think is going to solve so many Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► needs for so many people possibly even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► me it's going to be good enough it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► also like and the timing of this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► going to exacerbate this where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► who have been dying for a high-end Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► Pro update for the last three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► they're gonna be like a lot a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► that demand is gonna go to the iMac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► simply because it's out first and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► then when the Mac Pro comes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► probably the same generation components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► at least the same generation processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► maybe GPUs will have a small update by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► then but like when the Mac Pro comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► generation stuff at a higher price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► after so many people have had six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► to just buy the iMac instead I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► don't think it's gonna sell very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► well the 8k screen will be a big draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► that Y had to see honestly like I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► wonder like if they're gonna do an 8k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► screen because they all they said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► they were doing a pro display they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► didn't say what size or anything about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► more optimistic about upgradable GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► then how about the aka screen but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► see yeah so but like we don't so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► this is to say like if you're true if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► you think I'm up buying this but you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► making an assumption about the next Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► Pro really questioned that assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► like are you really like first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► can you just wait and see if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► wait and see wait and see but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► know how long the way that way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► going to be and and then secondly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► is what you're waiting for actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► going to happen do we actually know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► is it likely to happen have they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► anything about it like and chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► the answer to all those things as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► don't know or no ultimately I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► feeling this is the new Mac Pro in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► practice like the weather they release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► to me next summer that nobody buys or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► not it's a different story but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► we're going to look back on this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► in Apple history when we're all even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► older man in in a few years on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► podcast hopefully talking about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► remember when the only when I might Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► came out and when the Mac Pro became an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► I think this is the new line of Mac Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► for the long term I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► necessarily a bad thing it might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► we have a lot more to discuss about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► but we have gone long and we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► interesting holiday schedule coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► very very soon so I think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► probably just stop here and we will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► next week about the press tour with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► and we'll talk next week about the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► interesting hardware and encryption sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► what is it the t2 chip is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► it's all sorts of cool stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► yeah so we have we have plenty more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► say and as much as I joke I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► pretty interested to talk about some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► this stuff so we will save that for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► week thank you to our sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► betterment hover and fracture and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► will see you next week even as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► accidental but you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► notes at ADP CAS pyl ISS so that's Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► less and a are Co a RM ante Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► so Casey do you want us to talk even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► more about the Mac Pro about the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► know about the iMac Pro and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► that's fine if you look at like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► what this iMac Pro is versus what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► 2013 Mac Pro was and technically still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► is this is a Mac Pro it just happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► have a screen glued to the front of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► but like it's really no less upgradable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► than the 2013 Mac Pro was it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► faster in every way it has more options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► bigger you know it's and it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► desktop retina correctly I think rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► Redmond SSD upgrade I think it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► really more an S is the upgrade that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► lot like it was so easy to take it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► so easy to take the top off that of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► trashcan it comes right off just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► little loop comes right off and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► there in front of you totally reachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► is the the SSD and the the RAM that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► was the SSD actually see so many sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► it's just it was just on the outside one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► of the boards you just yank it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► the slot oh yeah they do saw one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► Mac Pro 2013 at this point I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► that for my for my wife's iMac I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► could upgrade the SSD right now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► I would pay for a two terabyte one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► $1,200 by third parties no this is third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► party this is from ODBC that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► for the Mac Pro though I'm assuming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► not the same thing in the in the iMac no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► you're right in the iMac its are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► different but like anyway you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► all intents and purposes like if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► came out and said this is the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► now like if they'd if they didn't pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► announced the existence of a new modular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► one next year or not this year we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► grumble for a few weeks about how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► wasn't have gradable I would grumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► forever yeah I was gonna say a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► you know forever no matter what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► really know the reason the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► would grumble forever hasn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► anything to do with almost anything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► discussed except for one part the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► that things might be down o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► because the whole point of the top line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► of the computer is to be the fastest as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► it can be and so don't take the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► fastest parts and then down clock them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► right that's that's the biggest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► you need to have a world's fastest Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► that is not intentionally hobbled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► some stupidity now if they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► to not do that and to run all the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► at their maximum speed to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► manufacturers right and run them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► their high bin speed then yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► be less crumbly but if this specific one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► with its room or down clock parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► cannot be your top-of-the-line computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► because it's so it's it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► top-of-the-line car it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► the the the Acura NSX right but we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► restrictive exhaust on it so we've cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► off one hundred horsepower that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► sitting there like what are you what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► you even doing but you could make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► argument for everything though you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► make that argument for any car everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► every freaking car is an aftermarket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► exhaust okay a car car's a bad example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► but but for silicon parts like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► been to a certain clock speed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► more expensive ones are the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► can go faster right and to not run them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► at at their top speed or to by slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► speed chips because you can't cool them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► you've made a bad top-end computer then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► like you're leaving money on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► like you're charging enough money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► you could put in the top bin part but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► instead you buy the slower you're worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► you buy the top bin one but don't run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► at its maximum clock speed that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► in embarrassment you can't do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► gotta have a fastest computer with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► the fastest stuff that's the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► of the top of your line is to be the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► of your line I I think you're getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► little overly worked up if if some if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► some GPU is running at 90% of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► maximum capacity who cares where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► leave that 10% therefore who cares it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► still infinitely better people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► computer and are willing to pay for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► definition John that is the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► computer this is all ball because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► hypothetical world that is the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► computer that Apple sells there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► other discussion to be had yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► but like but it's not it's you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► I mean like it's like saying whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► Mac Apple if the fastest computer sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► was the adorable it's like but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► the fast you would know that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► possible to make a faster one by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► do you enjoy your PC then like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► you know I'm showing this like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6896">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► you read my case for the true MacPro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► successor like this is the whole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► whole point of the your top-of-the-line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► computer right I mean I guess yeah I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► not arguing that there should be a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► of line computer I'm not arguing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► should be really damn fast but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► but if you're worried about a processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► being 4 gigahertz instead of 4.1 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► who cares it's still people who buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► computer care that's ok it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► because I'm not saying like oh you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► to do something magical to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► faster than everybody else but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► don't take a part that runs at 4.1 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► run it for why like what why oh we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► to do that to fit into thermal envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► and it gets back to a Margo they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► talking about who's asking you to fit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► in the skinny case versus who is asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► you to get the fastest everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► goodbye people buy a whole new computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► for a 10% speed bump to things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► do right they say my computer is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► difference in my workday in my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► compile cycle in my render time em or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► whatever right they'll buy a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► computer for a double-digit percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► speed increase and you're saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6958">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► willing to leave double-digit speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► ingress on the table so I can fit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► into a skinny case it's not asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► that so that's why I'm saying I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► grumble forever about this because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► a wrongheaded thing to say we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► to make the fastest computer we can for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► our most demanding users but we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► do a super obvious thing that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► slower in some small way so you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► you keep asking who cares I'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQLwEk8/6979">TS</a>]