Cortex 61: State of the Apps 2018
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they started working with more and more
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people in slack and also end up being
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signed up to more slacks I'm very aware
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that like in the space of a year or it
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may be 18 months I've gone from a slack
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is my communication salvation to I feel
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deeply ambivalent about slack because
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now when I open up it's just like I find
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it hard to manage but also recognize
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that this this like email has now become
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a like a business communication tool
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that is so firmly entrenched I can't
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imagine that it's going anywhere yeah I
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don't know if I feel exactly the same as
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you but I feel there are some things
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where I'm similar well like I hang out
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in slack way less than I used to but I'm
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still there all the time because it's
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where the business is happening with the
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people that I work with like slack is
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kind of more akin to the office now like
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it's where my co-workers are right and
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there is still like a water-cooler that
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people can go and chat in mm-hmm but I
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think I spend less time actually doing
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the chatting now I still listen but I
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don't chat as much just because I don't
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know why actually but it's it's just a
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lot every single slack that I'm in
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basically its sense to be quite a lot of
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noise and it can be harder to keep up
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with as time goes on and more and more
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people join yeah I think there there
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definitely is a function that there's
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like it's like all communications
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channels trend towards memes eventually
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right like that's that's what just
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happens is and like nobody means for it
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to happen and of course like the reason
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it happens is because it's funny and
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it's easy but but it does make things
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just really noisy and if you if you are
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like if you're like me I feel like my
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goal with slack as always I want to open
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it up I want to get a bunch of stuff
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done and I want to go that tendency
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towards noise makes it harder to work
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with sometimes and and slack you know in
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a bunch of different slacks that many
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you do have the
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problem where it's like the urgent flag
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on emails when like the other person
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gets to decide how urgent a thing really
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is like slack can be that way a little
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bit where it's like other people are
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deciding that a thing is really urgent
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for everybody to have to hear about
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right now and like maybe everybody
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disagrees on how urgent that thing
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actually is so I feel like I'm gonna be
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using slack for forever
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I really couldn't run my business the
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way I do now without having a gray
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industry slack like I just I can't
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imagine doing it any other way
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but I do find myself thinking about it
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more ambivalently
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as a tool as time has gone on yeah I
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think if you say it's it's kind of
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normal right like it's I think most of
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the communication tools that I've used
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in the past I've eventually felt like I
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wanted to move away from social networks
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yeah enough exactly like social networks
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eventually I always want to find a
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replacement for this which is better
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than the current one like in and I think
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slack is finally finally going that way
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like slack was the replacement for work
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email for me which is amazing I'm so
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happy that happened but now I'm like
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what is a replacement for slack there
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isn't one yeah I've been I've been
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thinking about that and it is it is
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fascinating though where it's like you
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know we've talked about email on the
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show very many times and I am aware that
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in my life in all realistic ways it's
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almost like email has completely
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disappeared for me it's like I almost
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never even open email and I almost never
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look at it because again 95% of what is
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important in matters is coming to me
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through slack so slack has just absorbed
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all of that yeah which which I never
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would have expected so do you want to
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run into a lightning round okay yeah how
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we gonna do this I don't understand
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these rules do you want to just do one I
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say one you say one and then we go and
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you say one we have a little explanation
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pick one what do you like all right one
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password because it's where all the
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passwords go and I now have like team
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stuff set up and it's awesome numbers
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absolutely love it as a spreadsheet
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because it is
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powerful than Excel but a million times
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more beautiful than Excel and the way
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you can arrange tables just fits with my
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brain better so numbers is where all my
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spreadsheets live in a similar thing I
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love numbers for stuff that's just for
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me but if anybody else is involved it's
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Google Docs and Google sheets
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nobody has collaboration tools like
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Google does and the Docs and sheets
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programs are the best in class even if
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they can be frustrating yeah 100%
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nobody does collaboration like Google
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next one up I got to give all credit to
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Federico 40g for recommending this to me
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which is a service brain dot F M which
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is yeah I'm gonna say music but not
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exactly music to listen to while you're
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working I listened to a single song on
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repeat a lot whenever when I'm writing
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but brain dot FM I really like bringing
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this into my life because sometimes I
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don't have a song that I'm listening to
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on repeat and now brain dot F M is is a
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is an easy decision to just be like I
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don't know what song I'm gonna listen to
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I'm just gonna open brain FM and just
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let it play and I love it it's a it's a
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great addition to the background sounds
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in my life a mail Oh
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air mail my email app it's my favorite
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email app even though upsets people I
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love it last one for me I'm gonna
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mention an T RSI which I was still using
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in 2014 if you're on a Mac all day you
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want a computer to remind you to take
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little breaks so that you can try to
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manage your RSI and anti RSI is still
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the one that I like the best I think
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it's the simplest and it does the best
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job of reminding you to take little
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breaks and to take big breaks at regular
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intervals if you're on a Mac all day I'm
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just saying yeah if you're on a Mac all
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day what happened to you it's are we
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talking about me I'm talking to the
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last one I'm gonna recommend is a tool
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that very few people are going to need
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but I do use it and love it it's called
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pipe drive and it's like a sales
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management tool icons that sounds very
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business it is in credits the most
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business II app that I use it's like a
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contact relationship management tool and
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like a sales funnel tool we usually use
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Trello for this and we outgrew Trello we
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needed some more specific features like
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ability to add people's contact
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information to the deals that we were
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doing and needing multiple people to
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have better access over it so we use a
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tool called pipe drive it is without a
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shadow of a doubt the most business you
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thing that I use
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I almost feel a little bit uncomfortable
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every time I open it sales funnels
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everybody loves sales funnels so next up
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is writing this is the exciting part
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so what writing tools you using now okay
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huge change absolutely love my main
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writing app now is Ulysses and Ulysses
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is just amazing and it took me a really
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long time to get into it because it has
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a very very different way of organizing
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what you're working on and it was it was
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that different method that kept me away
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from it for a long time or I thought
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like I don't need your rethinking of how
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writing on pages works Ulysses but they
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are totally right and they have this
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concept where you don't have pages they
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have these little things that are called
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sheets and a sheet can be as long or as
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short as you want it to be but the
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killer feature is you can glue a bunch
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of sheets together so that it looks like
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it's a page but it remains easy to
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rearrange so in a practical example like
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right now I'm working on another Q&A
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script like a for a Q&A video and so I
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can have each question and answer be a
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single sheet and then it makes it really
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easy while I'm writing to just say oh
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you know what this question this
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actually works much better at the start
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and so I can just quickly like fruit
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drag it up rearrange it and it's it's so
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nice plus they just have they have a
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million great features like it's it's
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markdown compatible but you can also
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export to anything that you want and you
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can write your own little
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styles for how things are going to be
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exported so like when I want to turn a
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script into something that I'm going to
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write on by hand I have my own custom
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style to export it into PDF it's it's so
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nice it's it's so great oh you can have
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different different formatting for the
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or different coloring for the way you
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want text to be so you can say like oh
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these two characters are going to mark
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off that this text is going to be in
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pink right or this text is going to be
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underlined and you can you can start
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building up a system for yourself about
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how you want to work like it's it's
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really really fantastic I feel like I
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can't say enough good things about
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Ulysses and I'm always coming up with
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more ways to use it I have used it it is
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very good it's too much for me it can it
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can definitely be a bit over
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overwhelming it makes me feel like I
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should be writing a novel yeah it does
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have a biased war that's not even fair
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but it does it does maybe compel you to
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be working on bigger projects like if it
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feels like it could just be used for
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these huge things and I don't even use
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all of the features because I mean I'm
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sinking it through Dropbox which then
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only allows you to use a smaller number
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of their features because if you're
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using it with iCloud like you can do it
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like an endless number of things with
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Ulysses it's really quite impressive
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actually I'll give you I'll give you an
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example of a way I used it which was
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totally unexpected but is a side effect
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of of organizing and sheets and okay so
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I've been I've been playing around with
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another vlog for my channel which may or
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may not ever get released I don't know
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it's it's a big it's a big mess yay
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Mike's laughing now because he's been
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hearing about this for like months
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but anyway a couple weeks ago I was I
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was working on it and I felt like I I'm
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at like a log jam point here like
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nothing is really working but what I
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what I got the idea to do
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was in Ulysses I actually ended up
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writing out a bunch of the different
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parts of the vlog and using their color
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coding to represent different things so
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I could say okay let me let me type out
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what I'm saying in the vlog at this
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point and if it's pink
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that means it's audio that was recorded
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live on on on location and if it's green
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here's something that I want like future
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gray to be saying and if it's blue
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here's something that somebody else was
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saying and then if it's like another
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color it's an indication of what's gonna
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happen in the scene I would yeah well it
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was it was an interesting thing to do
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because like I wrote it out which one
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just made me think a little bit more
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about what the structure is going to be
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but then because you have these sheets
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it's like each sheet was like a little
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subsection of a scene and it ended up
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being a situation where I realized oh
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this is this is much easier to think
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about the vlog at a very high level
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because now I can rearrange where these
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things go without just having to watch a
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whole bunch of footage over and over
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again that maybe I'll use or maybe I
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won't use so it just ended up being like
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oh this is this is turned into a
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text-based storyboarding tool mm-hmm
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so it was it was just it was an
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interesting thing to have done and it
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really helped me a couple weeks ago
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realize a bunch of stuff that doesn't
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need to be included and a couple of
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things that that should go in different
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spots like it's much more obvious
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looking at it that way so even if you're
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not writing there may be other places
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where the ability to rearrange text is
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very valuable and so Ulysses is just
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like that is it's real that's it's that
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is it's real strong suit for any type of
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writing that I do which is like longer
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than a message to someone I'm probably
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or if it's not going in notes so I'm
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gonna get to notes later for its
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purposes for me it would be there is
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where I do this type of there is grave
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there is a really really nice app that
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does a great job with like markdown so
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if I'm writing like a blog post or
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something like that then it would go in
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really really nice for it and I have
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used their organizational features they
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have a great tagging system and stuff
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like that I haven't gone too deep into
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that because I started doing it and then
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realized that I never ever needed it
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like I never I was I was tagging
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everything I was writing him bear then
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realizing that I just never needed the
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tags because I could just search if I
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needed anything and that wasn't such it
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for me it wasn't a system where I was
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like needed to catalogue things as such
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so I kind of realized that it just made
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sense we to open it right to know that I
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need and then move away but like I
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really really like bear I think it's a
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very nice app that is going through a
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lot of great revisions that are adding
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new features very frequently I'm a big
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fan of it sort of like how slack
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eat all of my email bear has an all of
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the random text files in random folders
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everywhere in my system so like I used
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to have just in different places like
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lists of things or here's here's a note
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about this and I realized the same thing
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that's like I'm just gonna keep all of
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this in bear and if it's a list of
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anything or a note on almost anything I
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can just search for word and bear fast
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enough and pull it up and I really like
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it it's a great app it's a really
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beautifully designed app as well and it
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syncs quickly and and reliably so yeah I
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have a ton of stuff in bear and I highly
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recommend it as well and then obviously
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I use my Apple pencil to take notes
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every now and then and there are two
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apps that I really like to do that with
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and it's good notes and notability I
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kind of use them both for different
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things I find good notes to be really
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good for marking up PDFs and stuff like
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but if I'm taking notes I actually
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prefer notability for it in the past at
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least initially I found notabilities
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Apple pencil support to be better I
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really like the way you can move things
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around and it's also good notes
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sometimes overwhelms me with how much it
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does and notability feels much more
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focused when I'm in it hmm it's funny I
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feel like I feel the exact reverse I
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feel like notability has all of this
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stuff and good notes is relatively
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straightforward
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but I think it's also just like I have
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spent an enormous amount of time and
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good notes I got yeah I really like that
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you know that back up front like it was
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in the 2014 list yeah yeah that was
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surprising to see I didn't realize it
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was it was that old so I think that is a
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case of like longtime familiarity with
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the app has just made it to me like it's
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a it's it's indistinguishable from using
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a legal pad and a pen for me at this
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point so I absolutely love good notes
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and I really like it that's all I have
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for writing I don't know if you have
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anything else I mean you know this is
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where I could like I can just mention
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Evernote it's sort of like you know it's
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still there it goes in the right-hand
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column well you know I use it for
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research and stuff okay like there I
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mean if we if we're shuffling into
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research I would throw notes in for me
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this is where I I put all of the links
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and all of the articles and all of the
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kind of the thoughts and notes that I
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have for the shows that I do and as I'm
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just going through the week and then
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either the day before the day of the
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show that's recording I will then go
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into Google Docs and transfer that stuff
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out and plan out the shows in more depth
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but everything that I'm saving in the
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weeks between each show it's all going
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into the Apple Notes app it's a very
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good app it got a little bit flaky not
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flaky it's got a little bit weird in
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some places and I was 11 with the way
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that it saves some links that you put
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into it but I never have data loss and
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you know it's not that kind of weirdness
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it's just sometimes things move around
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in a strange way but the the share
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extensions and all that stuff remain
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completely rock-solid for me and I love
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it bear has a really fantastic share
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extension too but it can get it can get
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kind of weird with sync conflicts so I
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try and not put put stuff like that in
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it hmm interesting
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yeah I'm still using notes in the in the
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way I described a while back which is
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like just as a place to jot down stuff
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that I'll figure out later where it goes
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so notes is is a very temporary place
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for me and and bear is the place where
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structured long-term lists live like if
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like if I'm thinking about something for
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cortex I'll often write it down and bear
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and then transfer it over to the Google
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okay so this is a similar usage really
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yeah so video production I mean all I
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have to say on this is final cut yeah I
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have final cut to say as well but I do I
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feel like I need to get something on the
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record my final cut which is that's this
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year I did I did make an attempt to
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learn Adobe Premiere oh I forgot about
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that yeah yeah there was a time where
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you were threatening to move to audition
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on me yeah I was I was investigating the
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Adobe suite and I sunk a lot of hours
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into learning Premiere and I got to the
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point where I could put together a video
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and in premiere like I got far enough
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along and I just I felt like this is not
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for me I don't like Premiere I don't
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like the way it works Final Cut Pro just
01:18:43
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works with my brain and I'm really glad
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I put in all of those hours with
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premiere because I feel like I feel like
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I appreciate Final Cut Pro so much more
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like I appreciate it a hundred times
01:18:56
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more after using Premiere than I did
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before so I feel like Final Cut you're
01:19:02
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I'm sorry I looked elsewhere for a
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little while that's exactly it like
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you're the only one for me all of your
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features that are amazing I was just
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taking for granted and like I super
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appreciate Final Cut Pro I may hold it
01:19:20
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up as one of the the best applications
01:19:23
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on any platform that Apple is that all
01:19:25
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right all right okay I don't forgive
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news like we're getting along just great
01:19:33
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but yes I not only do I use Final Cut
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Pro I really love Final Cut Pro no I
01:19:40
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mean what about animation tools do you
01:19:43
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still use any so at this point
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everything that was my animation tool
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creation stuff like that has essentially
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98% been outsourced at this point so I'm
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working with my animator and
01:20:01
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he is doing essentially all of the
01:20:04
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animation at this stage so a lot of my
01:20:07
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concerns about vector tools on on
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different platforms they just they just
01:20:12
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do not exist as concerns anymore for me
01:20:14
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which which is a huge actually quality
01:20:16
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of life improvement yeah not having to
01:20:19
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worry about that stuff so is there
01:20:22
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anything else in the video production
01:20:23
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category so there's only one other thing
01:20:26
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in the video production category that
01:20:28
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I'll recommend which is an iPhone app
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called filmic Pro which is if you're
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ever going to try to be shooting video
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say you're trying to walk down a street
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in Las Vegas and you want to film a
01:20:41
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montage this is a little a little manual
01:20:46
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camera app a video camera app for the
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phone which just has it has a million
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features but there's really only two
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things that I use in it that I really
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like and it's the ability to to set a
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point on the screen for where you want
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the focus and where you want the
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exposure to be set so you can say like
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I'm walking down the street but I want
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the focus to be on the sidewalk but I
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want the exposure to be set against the
01:21:15
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sky alright so you can manually say this
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is how it's supposed to look
01:21:18
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whereas with the regular iPhone camera
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like the iPhone does a great job of
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automatically figuring it out for you
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but sometimes you do want to be able to
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manually set that and then the other
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thing that I like which is just a little
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detail but with filmic Pro you can tell
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it which microphone it should be
01:21:34
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recording the audio from and just as a
01:21:38
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little trick like for a lot of Las Vegas
01:21:40
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stuff and for some vlog stuff you can
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tell it to use the microphone that is
01:21:47
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facing you while you're recording the
01:21:49
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stuff that's in front oh man that's
01:21:51
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amazing yeah it's really great and you
01:21:54
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can save it as a little preset so you
01:21:56
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can open up filmic Pro and so it will be
01:21:59
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using the microphone at the bottom of
01:22:00
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the phone to record you talking while
01:22:04
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you're looking at the screen and filming
01:22:06
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the thing that you're looking at so I
01:22:09
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really like that if you're just trying
01:22:11
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to capture any kind of video on your
01:22:14
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and that's the thing that you're using
01:22:15
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so I highly recommend it it's a great
01:22:17
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little app it's a pro tip it's it's an
01:22:20
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app recommendation
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what about reading I have absolutely
01:22:23
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zero in this category you don't exactly
01:22:27
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so I will have no reading recommendation
01:22:30
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I mean I'll recommend the Kindle is the
01:22:34
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Kindle an app it's a physical device is
01:22:36
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this too far is that stated the app
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Kindle isn't app you're recommending the
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Kindle app well I mean I'll recommend
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that I'll recommend the Kindle app if
01:22:44
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you have to I'll recommend a physical
01:22:46
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Kindle as better now that they've fixed
01:22:48
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all of their software problems and if
01:22:50
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you installed the Kindle app on your
01:22:51
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phone I recommend that you create a
01:22:54
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workflow to launch it that you don't
01:22:56
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have to look at its icon which is
01:22:58
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improved but still not good so yeah I'll
01:23:02
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recommend Kindle in in terms of reading
01:23:03
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oh and of course I'll still recommend
01:23:06
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Instapaper for articles and stuff like
01:23:08
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if I'm saving articles I'll still throw
01:23:10
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them into instant paper so those are the
01:23:12
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the reading apps that I use okay was
01:23:16
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reading a category on my old yes in the
01:23:21
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original was Instapaper and Kindles so
01:23:23
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you're a your creature of habit
01:23:25
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well I think I think I think what
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actually happened is we went so we went
01:23:28
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far away and then came back right it was
01:23:31
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so long that we've actually done that oh
01:23:32
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yeah definitely used other stuff right a
01:23:34
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bit you had a pocket phase and you had
01:23:37
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an iBook I had a socket phase and the
01:23:39
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iBooks phase wasn't a phase iBooks phase
01:23:42
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iBooks was a was a state of life for a
01:23:45
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very long period of time so it may
01:23:47
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actually be that like right after I
01:23:49
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wrote that article I switched away from
01:23:50
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Kindle and I have only just recently
01:23:51
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switched back also you can't recommend
01:23:55
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the physical Kindle through fear that
01:23:56
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this ends up becoming a gift guide
01:23:58
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episode you have to be real careful we
01:23:59
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have to like skirt around the gift guide
01:24:01
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yeah no it's not a gift guide not a gift
01:24:03
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guide it's the state of the apps but a
01:24:05
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Kindle would make a fantastic Christmas
01:24:07
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yeah it's not a gift guide but I will
01:24:10
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recommend this for one gift it's I don't
01:24:12
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think one gift is a guide no it's not
01:24:15
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know what Jing is the next category why
01:24:19
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did I have watching as a category what
01:24:20
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was past me thinking about I don't get
01:24:22
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this I think where does it roll this up
01:24:23
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into media right some reason you
01:24:26
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included feedly and
01:24:27
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and you're watching which seemed like
01:24:30
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strange really strange recommendation
01:24:33
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because one is an RSS reading app and
01:24:36
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one is read it later app no I but here's
01:24:42
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what I was doing Mike
01:24:43
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I was I was trying to force the YouTube
01:24:47
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subscription service into being the way
01:24:49
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I wanted it to be so I was pulling RSS
01:24:52
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feeds for YouTube channels and then
01:24:54
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dumping them in a separate app so that I
01:24:56
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would get all the videos in the order
01:24:58
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and organization that I wanted that's
01:25:00
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what I used to be doing no I think you
01:25:02
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can't do that anymore because youtube
01:25:04
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doesn't even have RSS feeds for channels
01:25:07
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I think they got rid of it that's not
01:25:09
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even still exists because why would you
01:25:11
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set up your own RSS feed right yeah yeah
01:25:14
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I think that's I think that's all gone
01:25:16
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I mean obviously I recommend YouTube but
01:25:19
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I don't think I need to recommend that
01:25:21
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it's like recommending Netflix like yeah
01:25:23
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got some great shows have you ever heard
01:25:25
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of smart phones I think that you might
01:25:27
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like them I use an app on my iPad called
01:25:31
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end player hmm what I use this for end
01:25:34
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player is a really great way to get to
01:25:37
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be able to get videos onto an iPad and
01:25:40
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have a place to watch them in so I'll
01:25:42
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give you an example we do not have
01:25:45
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YouTube read in the UK yeah very
01:25:47
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frustrated so if there is a YouTube
01:25:50
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video look there are some videos that I
01:25:52
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watch that are multiple hours in length
01:25:54
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and I would like to have them on a plane
01:25:56
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like I watch some like Let's Plays and
01:25:58
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stuff like that and some game streams
01:26:00
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that sometimes I like to watch them when
01:26:02
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I'm on a plane instead I use workflow to
01:26:06
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download the YouTube video okay right
01:26:09
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and then I save it out to end player
01:26:11
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that's clever
01:26:13
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that's clever and so that's that's a
01:26:15
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good way of doing it I'd actually don't
01:26:17
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know if I can share the YouTube workflow
01:26:19
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they exist on the Internet yeah I don't
01:26:21
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think you should you can find them
01:26:23
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potentially but that's something that I
01:26:25
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do well there is a way to fix this
01:26:27
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YouTube just give me YouTube read like
01:26:30
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you are the one who controls this just
01:26:33
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give me it but they won't I wish they
01:26:35
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would but they won't because I get
01:26:37
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teased every time I go to the US right
01:26:38
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and I open the YouTube apps like hey
01:26:41
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they put download buttons on everything
01:26:43
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so this is point let's call icon just
01:26:45
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cuz I'm in this country I can't start
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just using you to read now I had a
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that is mine that is in the US so for a
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while I was enjoying all the benefits of
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YouTube bread in the UK but eventually
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they crack down on that they're like oh
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no we know you're paying us money we
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Netflix did the same thing so
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podcast app that you should use but I
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feel like we need to say like we know
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Marco who makes overcast so just need to
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need to put that on the record there but
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I really do think overcast is is the
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best podcast app and
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it's it's largely because of the two
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things like it's the smart speed feature
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edited podcasts and it is also it's also
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that whatever Marco has done with the
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low level audio stuff
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no podcast app makes speeded up audio
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sound better than overcast so that's one
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of the main reasons why I really really
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recommend it is you can listen to a
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podcast on a higher speed and it doesn't
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have as many of the artifacts or
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weirdness that other other speeded up
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systems use exactly I mean the reason I
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use overcast is because of smart speed
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which is the silent shortening I don't
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listen to podcasts at like 1.5 or 2x I
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just let overcast just use its rubber
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banding to make things faster and where
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it needs to and it's that is the feature
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right like it doesn't matter how many
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other apps there are it doesn't matter
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if like all that designs really pretty
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or whatever as there are a bunch of apps
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that are like that it doesn't matter
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like because they don't have smart speed
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in the way that I like it other apps
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have silent stripping but I've tried it
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and just to my ears it just doesn't
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sound as good it's close but not good
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enough and it's not good enough to make
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me want to move and I one of my other
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favorite features about overcast is the
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black theme because I have an iPhone 10
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so black themes where it's like
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all-black look amazing because the
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yellow it's green so I like that a lot
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and yeah I mean that's why I use
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overcast but then as gray said
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the developer Marco is a friend and that
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always helps but overcast is really good
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I mean I know a lot of people use it and
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they're not all friends of Marco so you
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know there you go we can do I don't know
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that guy's pretty popular travel travel
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makes me sad because you could you could
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ride that on your tombstone yeah yeah
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you know in very many levels but I just
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realize I totally forgot the name of
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that app that everybody was using to
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track flights that was then bought by a
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company that then withered and died do
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you know the one I'm talking about yes
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was everybody saying you'll list here
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flight track five is that what it was a
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flight track yeah flight track was the
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app yeah it was so good and nothing has
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ever replaced it and I like when that
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thing disappeared I swear to God I was
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reaching out to everyone I knew to be
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like what are you using to track your
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flights like people are people on the
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edge of my contact network I was like
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what are you using to track flights tell
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me what you're using I got hoping hoping
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that somehow someone would have
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discovered some like gem in in the
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wilderness that I hadn't stumbled upon
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but there was a really long period where
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flight tracking apps were just not not
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up to speed but my recommendation in
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this category I finally found one this
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is pretty good it's not perfect I do
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sometimes have notifications about
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flights that don't seem quite right but
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the do is just forward though to the
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developer and he seems really active
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about trying to like wrinkle out all the
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the final little bugs but I'm using
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flight logger and I I really like it
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because flight tracking apps have this
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this delicate balance that they have to
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play like there's a lot of information
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like how are you going to display that
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information and I think flight logger
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makes for me the design decisions in
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that trade-off that are pretty good so
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that that's the one that in the past I'm
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gonna say in the past six months I've
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really settled on as okay this is going
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to be the flight tracker for me every
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time I'm traveling what are you using
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like I used to use to I used to I use
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flight logger and I really like flight
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logo but I need to say they have been a
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sponsor in the past some of my shows a
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useful at logo because I like its
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simplicity but then I also use an app
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called app in the air has a lot of
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information but too much and most of the
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time I don't want it but there have been
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times when I do want that amount of
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information the problem with app in the
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sometimes it's too busy and it's pretty
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expensive like they have like I think
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it's like five dollars a month or like
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thirty dollars a year I mean okay like
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I'm comparing it when I say expensive to
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what apps cost right like in a plant
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that's pretty explain it but but I do
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really like it but I like to you I use
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them in conjunction every time I get on
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a plane I put them into both apps so I
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just want to find out like what time am
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I taking off then I'll just open flight
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logger and just find that now but if I
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want to get like what type of plane do I
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have will I have Wi-Fi are there lounges
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in that airport like up in the air has
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all of that ancillary and ancillary
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information and I would say great if you
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haven't used it in a while they
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redesigned the app a little while ago
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and it got a lot better it got way it
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used to be really pushy about certain
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things yeah like I think I'll just say
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okay so maybe the redesign happened but
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the reason I stopped using app in the
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air is I've never felt this way about an
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app but I felt like I was getting
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bullied by app in the air like it was so
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yeah variant on the things they wanted
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me to do and and and also just like they
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really wanted the passwords to my email
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accounts to do stuff that I didn't
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really care about them doing and it was
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so pushy I felt like I feel like I'm
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getting bullied by yeah you know like
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it's way way better for I would
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recommend you to try out again justice
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okay I'll take a look at it again and
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see yeah so yeah I really liked it we'll
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talk about games well you always want to
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talk about games Mike well yeah yeah of
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course I love games I wanted to talk
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about games last time but it just made
01:34:52
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you sad should we talk about Mario
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Odyssey okay flip flops solitaire is
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probably my favorite iOS game this year
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it is like a really weird solitaire game
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I've always liked solitaire games you
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know but I've never been like incredible
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solitaire this is this is difficult to
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describe I think but flip flops
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solitaire lets you go in both direct
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so with solitaire you would usually go
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for example sighting at the top like 10
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9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 right like you would
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go down right you go down with ace being
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1 but in flip-flops solitaire you can
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stack in both directions so you could
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have a 10 card right and you could put
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on that tank card over a 9 or a jack
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okay so you go up or down go up or down
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I mean eventually you have to try and
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still put all the cards away but it is
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an easier way to move the cards around
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because you could put them everywhere
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it's I recommend people just try it it's
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a fantastic game I really really love it
01:36:12
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it's my favorite game this year that's
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kind of been added to my games folder
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and my games folder contains like my
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all-time favorite iOS games and flip
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flops solitaires very quickly become one
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of those what that makes me think of is
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a game I didn't play a lot of but I did
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really enjoy was oh god what the heck is
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it called I just need to look it up to
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get the name right really bad chess I
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don't know if you played this or not
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it's made by the same person oh okay
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well then that that makes sense
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yeah they're both of these games are
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made by Zach gage okay right there we go
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yep but I had fun with really bad
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chassis the premise there is I used to
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play chess a lot when I was a kid you
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know I was like a deal the chess team
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kind of you know you're a kid come on
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totally surprised but one of the things
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that happened with me when I was playing
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chess is when I started getting better
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at the game the game became deadly
01:37:10
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boring to me because you realize like oh
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the first part of the game is about
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openings and it's always the same and
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then the interesting part of the game is
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only when it you start getting into
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unknown situations later and really bad
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chess is super fun because it starts out
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with the beginning locations of all your
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pieces are just randomized and it made
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the game just it made chess fun to play
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again and I think it's the same thing
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like what you're talking about with flip
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flop solitaire where
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the designer is tweaking the rules of
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the game to make the game more fun to
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play yep and so like I really enjoyed
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really bad chess and like if you have
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ever played chess and left it behind
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this is at the very least you will have
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an enjoyable afternoon playing really
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bad chess it was it was it was a lot of
01:38:00
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fun I'm so what games have you been
01:38:02
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enjoying and they've recent are they old
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here's the thing what I was thinking
01:38:06
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about games this time because my old
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article it's like Who I have I have a
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bunch of games to recommend people that
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are recent games but I I tend to go in
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phases in and out of games or it's like
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I play a lot and in a condensed period
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of time and then I go for a while and I
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don't play very much and I feel like
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there's a there's a bigger meta cycle
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that has happened in my life which is
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that this year has been a relatively low
01:38:31
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gaming year for me overall so I feel
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like I don't have an enormous number of
01:38:37
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games that came in like I know I did get
01:38:40
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the switch so I'm just I'm going to just
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mention three because I mentioned them
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before so I can do it very quickly but I
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have come to think of these games as my
01:38:48
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Holy Trinity of games these are the
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games that have stuck with me the
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longest that I have played the most and
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that have three very distinct roles in
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my life can you guess what the first one
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is Mike what might it be
01:39:03
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hmm it's truck simulator game I was like
01:39:10
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yeah okay mm-hmm yeah of course
01:39:13
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right we've talked about it a million
01:39:14
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times truck simulator American Truck
01:39:17
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Simulator in particular absolutely love
01:39:19
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it and that is my brain dead game it's
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it's great many hours maybe I was I was
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thinking about iOS and obviously has no
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help that no there's no help they're
01:39:29
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very very good Mac gaming rig but then
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on top of that I mentioned them before
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but I'll just mention them now again
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factorio and rim world are the two other
01:39:40
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games that I absolutely like and
01:39:43
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I don't know if any have ever ever
01:39:48
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anybody use the phrase absolutely like
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yeah no one says that you love something
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or you like it
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you're absolutely like it I guess I do
01:40:01
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absolutely like these I absolutely don't
01:40:12
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mind them I'm glad you're enjoying
01:40:15
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yourself over there this is what happens
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on podcasts right when you're talking
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instead of writing like these things
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that come out you're like why am I
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saying this no idea thanks brain for
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assembling that sentence
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absolutely like it's a phrase that I can
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imagine you using right well I'm gonna
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use it for I'm gonna use it now right
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now that it's come into existence right
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but yeah I would describe rim world as
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stardew valley except fun that's the way
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I describe room and factorio is a game
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where if you have any any programmer
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inclinations at all factorial might be
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dangerous for you to try but it is
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deeply deeply involving and they've just
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put out a new version in time for
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Christmas which I'm I'm really really
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trying to prevent myself from even
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looking at until I have finished all the
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work that I need to do until Christmas
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season arrives because as soon as I open
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that up it's like okay well here go here
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go a bunch of hours but those have been
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the stable three Holy Trinity games for
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me for a long time now and I just I
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think they are just great solid games in
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in very different area so I just I
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really like them and I don't I don't
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have a bunch of new recommendations this
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year so I'm just gonna rear-end those I
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am gonna give you a very quick super
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quick just give you the names of my iOS
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gaming Hall of Fame mm-hm
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threes Altos adventure stagehand Domino
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drop a mini Metro
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they are my favorite did they all my
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favorite iOS games of all time and
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flip-flop solitaire joins them
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like they are the games that I always
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keep installed on my iPhone they are
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perfect iPhone games yeah Altos
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adventure I can definitely recommend
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that's really fun and and beautiful like
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the art style and out those adventures
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is great and mini Metro I never played
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it on iOS I played it when it came out
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on on Steam when it was in early access
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and that that is I think that's a great
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example of a game that is simple but
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involving and one of the things that I
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really like about mini Metro is it's a
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game where you always lose but you don't
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it's very Tetris like like the
01:42:34
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complexity just keeps scaling up and
01:42:36
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you're doing a very simple thing and
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you're always going to lose it's just a
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question about how how long can you go
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on before you lose so yeah I'm also
01:42:44
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gonna really recommend mini Metro so
01:42:47
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there are a couple of categories that I
01:42:49
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think we could condense into
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miscellaneous yeah I think we can do a
01:42:55
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lightning round in miscellaneous all
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right you go first I'm gonna mention the
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last service I think which is Dropbox
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oh yeah Shalini as one you know I kind
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of forget like because it's just there
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yeah it's it's just there but Dropbox is
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the filesystem for me for everything and
01:43:21
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it's the way that I keep my work managed
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across different devices different
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operating systems it's it's the
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absolutely vital underpinning of almost
01:43:31
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everything I do and I upgraded to
01:43:34
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Dropbox business this year so that I
01:43:37
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could use their new features like
01:43:38
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selective or so not selective syncing
01:43:41
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but the thing where you can have in it
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what is it called it's what we call it
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infinite it was originally called
01:43:47
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Dropbox infinite which is an amazing
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name and then they changed it to
01:43:51
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something else and I can never remember
01:43:53
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what the new name is because it's boring
01:43:55
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but it's it is Dropbox's version of what
01:43:58
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iCloud Drive tries to do which is like
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we can show you all your files and then
01:44:04
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we'll just download them as needed
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except unlike iCloud Drive which is
01:44:08
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terrible and caused me an enormous
01:44:10
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of frustrating problems when I went to
01:44:12
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use a smart sink no cuz smart sink is
01:44:15
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the thing that just hides the folders no
01:44:17
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that's electives not sink maybe it is
01:44:20
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maybe it's it is either smart or
01:44:22
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selectively sink
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yeah I think it's smart sink cuz it says
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on the website access every file in your
01:44:27
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Dropbox right from your desktop using
01:44:29
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very little hard disk space yeah yeah
01:44:31
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okay yeah you're right I'm looking at it
01:44:32
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now here it is it's smart sync but it is
01:44:36
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great to be able to designate a folder
01:44:38
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as to say like this folder always has to
01:44:40
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be on the computer and up-to-date and
01:44:42
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then this other folder you can push it
01:44:45
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to the cloud and if I ever need to
01:44:47
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access it just download it as fast as
01:44:49
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you can and also in the theme of
01:44:53
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communicating with lots of other people
01:44:55
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you know Dropbox I have you know shared
01:44:57
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folders with like 10 people various
01:45:00
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things just so vital and to give you an
01:45:05
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indication of just how vital it is my
01:45:08
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Dropbox folder if I or if I open it up
01:45:10
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now ok my Dropbox is seventy three point
01:45:16
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six percent full on a 15 terabyte
01:45:20
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►
Dropbox accounts but I am usually I am
01:45:24
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using a lot what are you doing that's a
01:45:29
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huge that smart sync is pretty vital I
01:45:33
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mean I as somebody who has a shared
01:45:35
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Dropbox folder with you I am very aware
01:45:37
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of the fact that you don't like to
01:45:39
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delete anything ever and there is like
01:45:42
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some some pretty severe selective
01:45:46
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thinking that we have to do like no no
01:45:49
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►
but see but here's the thing I don't do
01:45:51
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any selective syncing because with the
01:45:52
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Dropbox business thing like the core
01:45:54
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►
tech stuff is all just there and I never
01:45:56
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even looking at well I have to because I
01:45:57
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don't have that feature
01:45:59
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►
I pay for their one of them paid plans
01:46:02
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but I don't have the business plans the
01:46:05
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nice thing with the business plan thing
01:46:06
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is that I I select cortex as a file
01:46:09
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which is just pushed into the cloud so
01:46:13
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all of the core tech stuff is in the
01:46:15
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cloud but I can also say if something
01:46:18
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new pops up so like when we're done when
01:46:21
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we're done recording this show have the
01:46:24
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sync locally as quickly as you can so I
01:46:26
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only ever have the new ones on the the
01:46:30
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computer locally and then the rest of it
01:46:32
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like I just never even look at it and it
01:46:34
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just it just exists
01:46:35
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wherever the Dropbox data stores are
01:46:38
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probably you know in an NSA facility
01:46:40
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►
somewhere but you know it's like
01:46:43
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whatever it works great and I need it so
01:46:45
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that's that's what but that's what it's
01:46:47
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gonna be but yeah I'm sitting on a on a
01:46:49
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15 terabyte Dropbox account and you'll
01:46:52
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like 10 terabytes into it
01:46:56
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yeah it's whatever seventy-three point
01:46:58
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six percent of 15 terabytes is Wow okay
01:47:02
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so that's a pretty vital service for me
01:47:04
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►
let's hope the smart sync never breaks
01:47:06
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►
and then just ten terabytes of stuff
01:47:09
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tries to get pushed to you my Cloud
01:47:13
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►
Drive used to do and ugly you never know
01:47:18
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►
books are got it together yeah I'm gonna
01:47:21
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recommend one of my very very very
01:47:22
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►
favorite iOS apps which is carrot
01:47:24
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►
weather oh yeah it's on my list so good
01:47:26
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►
so I love carrot weather it is by far
01:47:29
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►
the best weather app that I've ever used
01:47:31
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►
for customization and data plus it has
01:47:34
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►
this fun character to it you can you can
01:47:36
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adjust whoever you want or don't want it
01:47:38
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►
but I kind of like the joke so it tells
01:47:40
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►
but the Apple watch app is just
01:47:43
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stupendous and it is an app that is in
01:47:47
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►
continual development and I thoroughly
01:47:49
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►
recommend it to anybody that cares about
01:47:51
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►
the weather yeah it's the it's the
01:47:54
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no-brainer choice for a weather app and
01:47:56
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►
I turn that personality all the way down
01:47:59
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►
yes no patience for that lines in the
01:48:02
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►
middle I just let it make jokes on the
01:48:03
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►
screen it never bothers me of anything
01:48:05
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which is a thing you can just there's
01:48:06
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►
some space where they can just throw
01:48:08
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►
some jokes in and I like that the
01:48:10
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►
developer has found a way to update
01:48:13
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those remotely and so they're very
01:48:16
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frequently topical which is one which I
01:48:18
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enjoy mm-hmm you enjoy that oh yeah I
01:48:22
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know I know basically I'm really in the
01:48:24
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►
minority amongst my friends but I just
01:48:27
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►
let it do what it's doing I'm gonna
01:48:29
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►
recommend next mind node which is a mind
01:48:33
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►
mapping app which is the app that I use
01:48:35
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►
to put together my thoughts on
01:48:38
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►
the list of apps for today and it's
01:48:42
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interesting cuz we did a show a while
01:48:43
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►
ago where we both talked about how we
01:48:44
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don't really use mind maps mm-hm and and
01:48:47
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for me that is still true 99% of the
01:48:50
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►
time like I just don't feel like a mind
01:48:52
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►
map person but every once in a while it
01:48:57
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feels like there's something I just kind
01:48:59
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►
of want a mind map out I never really
01:49:02
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used those mind maps later but there is
01:49:04
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something that every once in a while I
01:49:06
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feel like this is the appropriate way to
01:49:07
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like think through a thing or for today
01:49:11
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I decided to use the mind map because I
01:49:14
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figured it's a it's going to be a more
01:49:17
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condensed way to show all of the
01:49:19
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►
information instead of having a list so
01:49:21
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this way you might can just put a
01:49:23
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screenshot in the show notes and instead
01:49:25
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►
of having like a long list thing written
01:49:27
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out but if you're going to use a mind
01:49:30
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map I think my node is is the one to use
01:49:33
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and particularly on iOS they have a
01:49:36
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►
couple of features that are just
01:49:38
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►
fantastic which al app which allows you
01:49:41
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►
to act like you're typing a list but
01:49:44
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►
have it go in mind map format
01:49:46
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►
automatically so when you're on a branch
01:49:49
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►
and you're you've written out the
01:49:51
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►
category title like you just hit space
01:49:53
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►
three times and then it goes and creates
01:49:56
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►
a child branch and when you're on that
01:49:58
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►
child branch and you're done typing you
01:50:00
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►
just hit return three times and it
01:50:02
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creates a sibling branch so there's a
01:50:04
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really nice way if you're a very
01:50:05
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►
keyboard focused person like myself it's
01:50:08
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►
a super fast mind mapping application to
01:50:11
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you so I really like it so I have an app
01:50:14
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►
that I wanted to recommend called war
01:50:15
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►
accounts plus plus and this is a worker
01:50:17
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app and I will say like we said we were
01:50:19
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►
over cost the developer of this app
01:50:21
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David is a friend of mine and one of the
01:50:24
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►
reasons that I want to recommend is
01:50:25
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►
because of that because he's a friend I
01:50:28
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►
was helping him test swimming
01:50:30
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►
functionality that he was adding to the
01:50:31
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►
app so I got to help tailor it to be the
01:50:37
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►
type of design that I want so it's kind
01:50:40
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►
of the perfect that for me went when
01:50:42
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►
tracking my swims so that's why I love
01:50:46
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►
it so much it is a workout app which is
01:50:49
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►
really best with the Apple watch you
01:50:51
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►
can create it was like a bunch of like
01:50:53
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►
templates and you can adjust how you
01:50:55
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►
want the information to be shown during
01:50:57
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►
the workout so like you can show your
01:50:59
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►
heart rate changes you can show the laps
01:51:01
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►
to time and all that kind of stuff and
01:51:03
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►
you can do this with loads of different
01:51:04
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►
exercises but it means when I'm swimming
01:51:06
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►
I get to see just the information that I
01:51:08
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►
want to see mm-hmm
01:51:10
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►
plus workouts plus plus has the ability
01:51:12
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►
for you to integrate podcasts into it so
01:51:15
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►
Johan that's nice listen to podcasts
01:51:18
◼
►
with your air pods just from the watch
01:51:19
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►
that's pretty sweet yeah this only
01:51:23
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►
really works very well with workout
01:51:24
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►
applications because they have to be
01:51:26
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►
constantly running and that kind of
01:51:27
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►
stuff but that has that future air pods
01:51:29
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►
in while you're swimming has everybody
01:51:30
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no I don't do that part but yes I like
01:51:34
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►
to be able to have my when I'm swimming
01:51:38
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►
alikes we have to see just the
01:51:38
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►
information I want to see and I found
01:51:40
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►
that Apple stuff while still good just
01:51:43
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►
didn't give me everything I wanted and
01:51:44
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►
one house plus plus does and it's I
01:51:47
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think it's free so it's worth at least
01:51:48
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►
trying out yeah I'll also recommend that
01:51:51
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►
if you want to hear David and Marco talk
01:51:56
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►
about their apps they have a show on
01:51:58
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►
this very Network under the radar which
01:52:00
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►
you should go listen to it's very good
01:52:02
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►
and you should put that in the show
01:52:03
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►
notes oh of course I will
01:52:05
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so again to developers they make two
01:52:09
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apps that we really like yes they are
01:52:11
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►
friends but they are good apps and they
01:52:13
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►
also have a podcast together and that
01:52:15
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►
podcast isn't really a fan remember all
01:52:18
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of that but both of these apps are free
01:52:20
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►
so you've got nothing to lose when you
01:52:22
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try them and then you'll know they're
01:52:23
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great next thing I'm gonna recommend is
01:52:26
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this is a little tip that I picked up
01:52:29
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from while we're talking about relay
01:52:31
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people Stephen Hackett you are a
01:52:33
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co-founder he recommended to me at WWDC
01:52:37
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a feature of Chrome on the Mac which I
01:52:41
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►
did not know which I feel like is
01:52:43
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life-changing and it's that chrome has
01:52:47
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the ability to set up different user
01:52:49
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►
profiles so that you can in chrome very
01:52:53
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easily switch between a set of logged in
01:52:56
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►
accounts and let me tell you as someone
01:53:00
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who's trying to run a YouTube channel
01:53:04
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►
a couple of podcasts and my own personal
01:53:08
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►
life chrome when I'm sitting in front of
01:53:10
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►
the Mac is the browser that I'm using
01:53:12
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the vast majority of the time now and it
01:53:15
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►
is solely because of this feature that I
01:53:17
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►
can say very quickly switch between I am
01:53:21
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just me as a person and use and have
01:53:24
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this web browser logged in to all of my
01:53:26
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►
personal accounts and now I am
01:53:28
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►
officially CGP grey the YouTube person
01:53:31
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so here's all of the accounts I need to
01:53:33
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►
be logged in for that and the thing the
01:53:35
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detail that makes this really really
01:53:37
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great that Steven suggested is you can
01:53:40
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have different custom visual themes for
01:53:44
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►
these different profiles so when I am
01:53:47
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►
logged into the most important accounts
01:53:49
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as the CGP grey YouTube channel stuff
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the whole Chrome web browser across the
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top is red I say it is not possible to
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make a mistake about like which account
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am i logged into I really really love
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this feature and if you're someone who
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is using a bunch of different sets of
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accounts or you're using a shared
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computer in a family the profiles
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feature on Chrome is is amazing I don't
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use that but I do use Chrome but I know
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why that would be great if you were
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switching constantly I mean I just
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whenever I'm posting I just using clean
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neato mode and login but it's because I
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don't need that access all the time but
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I can see why that would be so useful
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yeah it's it's great because it keeps
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you logged in yeah guy used to log in
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and log out of all the stuff but
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particularly with YouTube where when you
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log in on one count they want to log you
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into a whole bunch of related services
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it just it makes a big big difference
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gbaud I use a third-party keyboard on my
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iPhone lots of people think this is a
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wild thing to do there are downsides to
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it but honestly the upsides of FASTA
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significant for me better all to correct
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better emoji suggestions and emoji
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search I can get gifts from my keyboard
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and I can swipe type Apple can't beat
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that in my opinion and I loved you board
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and I've been using it as the only
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keyboard on my iPhone for a very long
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but I'm gonna back up that
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recommendation uh
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I started using G board a long time ago
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on my iPad because I like swipe typing
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with the pencil so I find it just easier
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than try what if I'm using the pencil
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element I've had I tend to want to use
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the pencil for everything and tapping
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out letters is really unpleasant to do
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with the pencil so I started using
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keyboard on the iPad pro so that I could
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use the swipe typing and I really liked
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it unfortunately there's a little bit of
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bug with if you want to use a Dvorak
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keyboard layout with the G board
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keyboard installed on an iPad which is
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sort of frustrating so I have to always
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switch back into the regular iOS
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keyboard to get that to work but I
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really like it with the iPad and I've
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been trying it on my phone the past
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couple of weeks and I don't know if I'll
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keep it but it's it's definitely worth
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trying although for some reason I find
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that the swipe typing with my thumb is
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taking a little while to get used to
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this it it's strange to do but it is
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scary how good Google is at guessing
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what you're what you're trying to type
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you say scary I say really convenient
01:56:35
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well what I mean what I mean scary
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though like a thing that happened today
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is I was swipe typing something and I
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realized I had done it totally wrong and
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I just thought I'm just gonna keep going
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and like go back to the letters that it
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was supposed to be so I I typed a seek
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typed in quotes a sequence which is just
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a nonsense sequence of work of letters
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but Google was able to get it I'm like
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oh we know what you were trying to say
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and that's the situation where it's like
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is is terrifyingly accurate because my
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swiping was nonsense because I'd like
01:57:10
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changed my mind halfway through about
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what words I was trying to say like you
01:57:13
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still did just fine
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so again I'm not sure it will stay but I
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can definitely back up your
01:57:19
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recommendation that it is worth trying
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and it's interesting I do want to
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recommend nap that I completely forgot I
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used until I had to set up two new
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systems where I hadn't installed it and
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that is one blocker which is one of the
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ad blockers for iOS and for Mac I had
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just installed this and forgotten about
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it a long time ago and I had to recently
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redo a couple of my systems and I was
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feeling like why is the Internet such a
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terrible experience and then probably
01:57:50
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alright because I haven't installed that
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ad blocker and so one blocker is a
01:57:56
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really nice ad blocker not least of
01:57:58
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which because you can set a lot of
01:57:59
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customization to it and you can also do
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things like block URLs that you want to
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specify or if you're into like regex
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rules like that's a thing that you can
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do so it's a really great ad blocker I
01:58:12
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don't use any blockers anyway learn
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anything well you're a better person
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no I don't think that's the case and I
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don't think it's any kind of like and
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I'm not trying to make any kind of
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political statement I have just found
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that like they just randomly break
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things and I find it frustrating to be
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like all something isn't working Oh
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might be because of my ad blocker and
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I've gotten pretty I think I have been
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on the internet for long enough that
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I've gotten pretty good at ignoring ads
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where I don't want to see them I've I
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have the ad blindness you know like I
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can look at a page and I should never
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see him so you know I'm fine with it
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again like and I'm really not trying to
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be like oh but I also use Chrome as well
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on my on my iOS devices so I can't even
01:59:00
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use an app block or an iOS even if I
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wanted to so there's a bunch of reasons
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but like I'm not trying to make a
01:59:06
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political stand I've just never really
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gotten into it I do use a blocker I
01:59:12
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think it's called like cookie box or
01:59:14
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something like that I'll find it I'll
01:59:16
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put it in the show notes and it stops
01:59:18
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those European Union cookie consent
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thing because that is like not helpful
01:59:26
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to anyone and I have so like this is
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mainly good for me because if I ever am
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in Safari it's not a browser I use
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frequently so I see those things
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everywhere but then I have this blocker
01:59:37
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that just blocks those pop-ups right
01:59:41
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yeah that's good that's good my last
01:59:43
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recommendation
01:59:44
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for today i want to be p calc for two
01:59:47
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reasons it's my favourite calculator app
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i love it it's a great calculator app
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I'm going to say three reasons I can
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change to a many different icons so I
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can have a fun icon and also it has a
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where in the world is Mike Hurley well
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it depends who are you talking to Mike
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Hurley Oh the body is ah in London all
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right right okay yeah I know this Mike
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Hurley the kind of the general spirit
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and consciousness is stuck somewhere
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over the Atlantic Ocean right that Mike
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early is still catching up with this
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Mike early yeah can't be here
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just in time for it to change again so
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okay very excited about perfect so here
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you're in that in-between time then one
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trip is over and another trip will start
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just as just as you've adjusted that's
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the best that's that is just the best
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yeah I've been tracing that feeling for
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about three months I was I've had a lot
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of really great travel this back end of
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mm-hmm but it's it has thrown my body
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clock through a loop I just got back
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from Seattle
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yesterday from podcast from pod con it
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and I got back yesterday and I managed
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to stay awake I've gotten pretty good at
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staying awake when I get home and then I
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just hate when did you have really bad
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jet lag when you wake up the next
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morning and feel worse yeah but when I
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went to sleep and that was how I felt
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today yeah I'm with you there so I'm
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drinking a smoothie right now called
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vitamin power ooh and I'm hoping that
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that will get me through yeah
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I have often found that the jet lag kind
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of tricks you I'm often very optimistic
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the first day I get back I feel like oh
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don't do it really well
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but like oh the jet lag is actually just
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it's just winding up for day two okay
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like oh I feel always day two your day
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was my worst is night three hmm
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night three I need to clear the schedule
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for day four because night three means
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Mike will not sleep yeah and tends to be
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what happens to me so I've got no sleep
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coming in a couple of days so that we
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found this is the thing with travel
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especially very long travel like if
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you're going from London to the west
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back again is it's it's really gotta be
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worth it to do that trip
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and you were going out to a pod con the
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first pod con no one had ever been to a
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pod con before was it worth it Mike was
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it worth the jet lag without a shadow of
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a doubt oh great yeah it was fantastic I
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would do it again I'll do it again next
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week if there was one next week I had
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such a good time at probably the best
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organized conference I've ever been to
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well you know the Greens they have some
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experience with organizing conferences
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they know what's going on a put a few
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together in their day yeah yeah I've
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never been to VidCon but I could what I
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could feel was happening was VidCon
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moved to Seattle it was just an
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incredibly well oiled machine everything
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was taken care of
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like every event that I had to go to
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there was someone to take me there and
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like it was yeah it was amazing I was so
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blown away by like how all of the
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details were taken care of and it you
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know made me smile everyone was wearing
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radios right like it was just like a
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whole big to-do it was very very well
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put together that's really great to hear
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it's it's one of those things where I
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was I was not able to attend this year
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like I wanted to go and I wasn't able to
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go partly because my travel schedule has
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also been crazy this year and I was I
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was watching I was watching with some
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sadness people on Twitter like seeming
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to be having a great time at pot god I
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was like oh I'm over here not able to be
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there at pod con it was a great time it
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was really good
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remind me again like what were your
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responsibilities at pod con you did a
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panel is that right I had four events
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for okay in total I had a panel about
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networks there's some amazing people I
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had what's called a podcast scramble
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scramble yeah it's where they put two
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podcast hosts that have never worked
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together before together and you make a
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show about anything like speed pod
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Mike's big podcast dating yes but
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the date happens in front of an audience
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okay you have to do the podcasts just
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live like what is line to a 15-minute
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show yes a 25-minute show in front of an
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audience do you know who you're going to
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be scrambled with ahead of time yes we
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knew we knew vastly ahead of time so we
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were able to talk around together yeah I
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wouldn't do the other one because that
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sounds like hell like I'm just I'm just
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trying to imagine what like maybe from
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an audience perspective it would be
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amazing great to have these two people
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walk out on stage who don't know that
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they're going to meet and then the
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audience just screams entertain us right
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and they have to do it like that could
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be great from a watchin perspective
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before very many reasons with every one
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of these scrambles would be the same
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house Park home for you that's how every
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single one of them would go right it's
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how they would all start house l-pod
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Kahn now that's not a podcast then
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you're just talking to the audience it's
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a podcast if there's two people talking
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to each other that's oh the audience can
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yell at them and say no you're breaking
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the rules this isn't a podcast this is
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just a show I don't think I like the CGP
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grey organized pod con very much well
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this is why I didn't and shouldn't
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organize any kind of conference there
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there are many things people don't want
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me to do one one of the things highest
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on that list almost certainly would be
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trying to organize any kind of
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conference I'm always I'm always amazed
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at these things and there is there is no
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ability for me to put this stuff
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together so no okay but so it was panel
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mm-hmm scramble mm-hmm what we have the
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to create a chat which leader chat
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believe is something that happens at
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VidCon yes yeah it does and this is
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where like I sat down with a group of 12
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people who I think were all mostly
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podcasters themselves and they were just
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asking me questions about what my
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opinions were on things and the way that
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I do things still like that that was
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and then my signing was there was the
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fourth and final thing the first three
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things will happen on Saturday and my
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signing happened on Sunday which was
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both a blessing and a curse because I
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feel like Saturday lost lost for two
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days it felt like but then I have the
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impending doom of signing hanging over
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than concern the signing that you were
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going to bribe people to come to you
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with your poster yeah okay well tell us
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Mike how was the signing the signing was
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very overwhelming for me okay because
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there were a lot of people there I don't
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know exactly how many but I know it was
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more than anybody was prepared for
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because we needed another second
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volunteer to come and help out and also
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I realized that I don't know how
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signings work and I wasn't really sure
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what I was supposed to do so like I have
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my box of posters in under my arm and I
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was standing behind a black curtain okay
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they did that set up right yeah I know I
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know this set up yep through the curtain
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and there was significantly more people
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sitting there than I expected they made
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noises and then I put the Box down on
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the table and I said hello and didn't
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know what to do next and no one was
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there to tell me so I sat down and then
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the the volunteer was like because this
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is a great thing I didn't expect which
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which shows the organisation happening
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behind the scenes I expected to just see
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a line of people just lining up mm-hm
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but what they do is they sit everybody
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down in front of you almost like
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audience style and then bring people up
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line by line and they just have one row
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lining up at a time so it means the
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people that are waiting aren't just
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standing around they're sitting down
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like that's a really smart way to do
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this I just assumed that they would just
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be like a snaking line of people it's
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very uncomfortable to stand exact or as
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long as for as long as much as much time
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as it's going to take yep to see it Mike
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Hurley apparently well it did take a
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long time for some people unfortunately
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I had an hour right that was my allotted
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time so I figured I just started and
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people came over and I would say like hi
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hello how are you like I was able I got
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good at reading people's names from
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their nametags so I could start writing
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the name stands I like write little name
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then write the name on the poster that
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could ask them where they wanted me to
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sign it because there wasn't like an
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obvious place I ended up working out the
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obvious place on the poster I'm gonna
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put a link in by the way to the poster
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in the show notes I'll talk about the
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poster again in a minute but just so you
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could see it and I was writing it kind
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of like around the chair there's like a
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chair and the person it's like a white
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space was writing it they're like thanks
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so much for coming but alas since people
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like how are you enjoying the how you
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drawing pod con that kind of thing
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people would you if you have something
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that they wanted to say to me that was
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great moving through people was having a
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great time it felt really cool taking
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some pictures then a little while goes
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by I don't even check my watch like I'm
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just completely focused on what's going
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on oh yeah I'm just going through these
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things getting the PO sign it like this
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the volunteer comes up to me and she
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says I just want to let you know that
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you've run through half of your time but
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a quarter of the people oh god okay so I
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was like right okay then so I just tried
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to start speeding up a little bit
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speeding up a little bit I was kind of
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getting to the point where like I
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figured I think the thing that's taking
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me the longest amount of time he's
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writing out an individual note on
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everyone's posters which was what I
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wanted to do but couldn't so I was just
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like writing people's names down signing
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it taking pictures that kind of thing a
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little while past this more and she
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comes up to me again she's like you're
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gonna have to speed up because the
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McIlroy Brothers are next right and like
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people are starting to arrive for their
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signing right right so and so then it's
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continue to go through continue to go
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through and now I noticed something
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changed in the audience we're like what
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was happening was people would come and
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then I would sign the poster if they
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wanted a picture the volunteer would
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take the picture
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so like beforehand they would give her
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their phone she would take the picture
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and go then I noticed something change
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where like other people in the line were
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taking pictures for them and I was at
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first I thought all these are just all
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friends but then like that person would
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take and then look and then while I what
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I realized it happened is that the
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volunteer had said to people you can
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choose something signed or a picture so
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that the attendees were going rogue and
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taking pictures for each other right but
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I see the thing was what ended up being
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the best move was to ask for the picture
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because I was making sure every person
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left with a poster because that's right
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that was the deal we made right yeah
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nobody knew this but that was the deal
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that me and you the listener made so
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like if they took it I would just screw
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by my name on it and like just throw it
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right I got through everybody I thought
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I was going to die
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and like the volunteer came up to me
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afterwards she was like thank you so
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much you were amazing and we were not
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expecting this amount of people so great
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the bribery worked uh-huh maybe a little
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maybe a little too it I would say for me
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personally it worked great because I
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didn't walk out to just five people who
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were my friends that was a great moment
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they were like five of my friends were
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in the audience and they all lined up
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basically they came over we just took a
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picture and I told him to get the heck
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out of there and like and I I could feel
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the happiness from the volunteer who was
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trying to deal with this as I knocked
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out half of a line in two seconds all
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right I know I just gave them their
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posters because they were just there for
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me in case nobody showed up right it was
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my backup plan so the volunteers
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thinking oh this guy is a real pro he's
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gonna get through this line in no time
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at all little did they know what was
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actually about to happen oh yeah I
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thought of it that way yeah they're like
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oh man this guy's great he must do this
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all the time because like it's full
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right so they're like well if this is
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full he must have done this before
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yeah turn it on so that's why you didn't
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get a warning until half the time was
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gone because they were thinking out at
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any moment he's gonna get back into the
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groove of it
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and then there was Mannix was no groove
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no curves no groove they need like I
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feel like it like and running you have a
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like a pacer runner right I feel like
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they need some kind of mechanism to
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visually indicate to you if you are on
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ahead or behind schedule like some kind
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of visual pacing mechanism like they
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could build like a assigning robot which
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is signing a pace I got like a pace
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robot and that's it and I've got to kind
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of match the pace of the robot that sits
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next to me yeah I think that that would
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probably make it feel just as as
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personal and non mechanical to the
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people coming to see you for the signing
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maybe I'm not here I'm not here to help
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you out with this I just I don't think
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the pacing robot is is good I'm just
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thinking like behind the line just a
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light that's in your field division that
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you can see that's you know green yellow
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or red for how well you're doing that's
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that's that's what they need I want to
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get real for a second and just I want to
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thank everybody that did come to the
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signing and I think pretty much all of
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those people listened to cortex
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everybody told me that they loved the
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show and it was gray a real life moment
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for me honestly because I wasn't
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expecting a lot well one thing I forgot
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to tell you so I'm I am like in the kind
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of the green room I'm getting ready to
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go and I'm kind of a nervous wreck I
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don't know what what's waiting for me
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right and then somebody sent me a tweet
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this is like 20 minutes before my
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signing that there were 50 people in the
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line at that point that made me feel
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very uncomfortable hot because like at
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that point that's already like maybe 10
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times more people than I expected we're
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gonna be there right so the whole
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situation is something that I will never
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forget because it was comply commotion
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Allah overwhelming so yeah thank you if
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you came it was it was amazing it really
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was just amazing a guy I couldn't
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believe it it was brilliant
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oh I signed a bunch of phones this year
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yeah yeah two iPhones to Google pixels
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the pixels of that sign on
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are they yeah something about the
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aluminium in them like the weights
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it was way nicer somebody had me sign an
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iPhone 4 which was a disaster cause it's
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glass so this cannot be science I signed
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some beard oil okay alright I was I was
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one I was wondering I thought like some
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cortex listener is going to bring beard
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oil yeah someone brought beard oil and
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one person brought a safety razor
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t-shirts sound a couple of t-shirts
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stuff like that but yeah the the beard
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oil and the safety razor were hilarious
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the t-shirts really are the hardest
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thing designs so there's one very smart
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person brought their own fabric pen mm
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cuz I need sharpies sharpies they're a
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disaster yeah sure a sharpie trying to
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sign a t-shirt it doesn't work it's
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terrible you you need if you're gonna
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have a even try to sign a t-shirt with a
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sharpie you need three people you need
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the signer yep and you need two people
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to hold tight the shirt in place in
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order to even have a chance though you
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need like a medieval rack to put yeah
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that's that's 100% the only thing that
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can keep it taut enough so you can
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actually make the Sharpie make any kind
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of imprint it's just like I know before
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having ever done these things in my head
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I think like Oh t-shirts seem like oh
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there must be so that like the best
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design write it easy to bring you know
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it's like now they're the worst that the
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absolute worst yeah it was I remember
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the first time I signed his he chefs
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like years ago and it was someone was
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wearing the t-shirt there's a nightmare
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it looks like it was signed by somebody
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who's never held a pen before this just
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it's just the worst just a bunch of
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horrible lines I'm really glad to hear
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that the signing went well and and you
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know those things can be it it's such a
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there's such strange moments that it's
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hard to express what it's really like so
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but like I get what you mean when you
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say it's emotionally overwhelming
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because you have this thing where it's
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all of these people are here because
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they've listened to you on a podcast for
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you know you listen listen to you on
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many podcast from
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hours and you know they're coming up and
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they want to say something to you and
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you're signing these things and then
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there is also like what makes it
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draining is this there's like there's a
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time constraint or there's a number of
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people and you want to make sure that
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everybody is as happy as you can
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possibly make them but you also have
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these constraints in the world like it's
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it's a it's a strange situation that
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that can be overwhelming on a whole
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bunch of different levels did you have
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to do anything immediately after the
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signing or could you go just collapse on
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the floor no I was ended up being very
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happy that I only had that to do on
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Sunday yeah right like at first I was
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like but like I'm so busy on Saturday
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but like no I needed the rest of Sunday
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to just sit and just try and rebuild yep
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yep there were two other things about
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puck on that I wanted to mention one was
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the feeling of the conference and the
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audience and the attendees there was a
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feeling of just like nice nice and warm
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and like appreciation that I've never
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felt any conference before everybody
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just seemed to be really nice and having
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a good time and that was amazing do you
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think it was partly like a because I'm
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thinking like you know we've been at
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WWDC together and do you think that's
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just because it gets much smaller than
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WWDC is you know because WWDC is like
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you know last year in particular it's
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like oh the entire city of San Jose is
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now WWDC Disney and like that's that's a
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very particular feeling like an entire
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city has taken over a place like okay so
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Louis what's the comparison in your mind
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between those two there's no cynicism
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but popcorn hmm right everyone's just
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super excited and happy to be there but
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and like at something like a WWDC
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there's there's always like a level of
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people and and I'm not talking about
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like if we do meetups or whatever it's
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very similar to my experience at pod Con
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but like the overall feeling of the
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conference I've never felt something
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like this where like everyone was like
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super happy you know there are a bunch
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of people in cause
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play there are like fan like attendee
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generated meetups that were like
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official on the program whenever like
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anybody goes onto a stage everyone goes
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crazy for them like there was just like
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a general feeling of like everyone that
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is there is super excited and happy to
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see the thing that they love well like
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other conferences you there can be like
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apathy to people that come out on stage
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because you don't know who they are or
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like it's something like a Dobby WC
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there's a real mix of like just general
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feelings towards what's happening at the
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conference and that didn't feel like
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that with pod con so I guess you're
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saying that if they do it again next
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year you'd go to be the hundred percent
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because I also had the experience of
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being a fan myself seeing some of my
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favorite podcasts like there were
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podcasts that I adore that were on Sage
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and I got to sit in the audience and
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watch them it was fantastic I really
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really enjoyed that and it was all just
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in this one event I would 100% go and I
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would just say nobody's asked me to say
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this great but it is possible still to
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sign up to get a remote attendee ticket
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which is audio of panels and stuff like
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that and I believe that the podcast
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scramble and the panel that I did about
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podcast networks will be available to
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people to listen to I think it's like
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thirty dollars for a remote attendants
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but there was a ton of fantastic panels
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across the whole weekend some that I'm
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looking forward to hearing again or some
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that I missed so you can still go and
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get that and you can get a lot of the
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value if you're looking to learn some
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stuff or if you're looking to be
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entertained from that so I just wanted
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to mention that because there was so
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much great stuff there and if you
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couldn't make it and or if this now
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sounds interesting to you and you're
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like ah man I wish I would have been now
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you can still get some of that stuff you
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still get some other feelings oh that's
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I've I haven't come across this idea of
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a remote me and uh ticket before but it
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makes so much sense considering it was a
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podcast convention that you would have
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audio available afterwards it's like
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could this be more thematically on
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target I think not
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that's a really it's a really
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interesting idea to do the remote
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attendants ticket I will be looking
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forward to hearing hearing your panel
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mm-hmm and hearing your scramble
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scramble something about the word man I
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talk about what we're gonna talk about
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today you wrote a blog post hyping it up
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he wrote a blind I am you wrote a blog
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post in 2014 called state of the apps
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yeah in which you kind of went through
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in a bunch of different categories some
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tools that you use and you wanted to
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share them so when people started asking
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me for this and it was a lot right like
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I was getting a lot and still do I
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always regret writing that article I had
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assumed that you were writing it every
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year yeah that was the intention because
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people would say oh you should do a
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state of the apps you just take the apps
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I googled it saw what it was like oh
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that would be a good idea and I put it
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in my note and then when I went to look
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into this maybe six months ago
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kind of like less maybe start thinking
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about planning this one out I was
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surprised when I couldn't find 2015 and
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2016 because the amount that people were
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asking made me think that you had done
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it regularly but no you did it once
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three years ago yeah but everybody wants
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it and I can't remember why we're doing
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it today but we are I think maybe I
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finally ground you down because he is a
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really good idea and I guess now is the
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time right yeah I think it's partly it's
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partly that you ground me down and it's
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partly because when we were we were
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talking about when does it make sense to
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do it at the end of the year is a is a
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totally sensible time to do it
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and if it feels like okay if we're going
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to talk about it
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you know Christmastime talk about all
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the different apps that's not a bad time
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people might be getting new devices and
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looking trying to find like what what do
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they want to install on those devices
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and so yeah this is this is the best
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time to do it and also it might be
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easier for you to talk about it with me
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rather than trying to write an article
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and thought instead every year yeah well
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like do a little sidebar here please
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so that article is state of the apps'
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2014 but it was actually written in
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December 2013 because I feel like I'm
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gonna write this article but I want it
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but I want it to be good for a whole
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year right so it's like it's like I
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think nothing is with cars like the 2018
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car comes out in 2017 yeah I think
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that's what the yeah what happens yeah
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right so that what that was my idea like
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the state of the apps 2014 is this
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article is good for the year 2014 of
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coming but I did write its it was just
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like it was just like a little list but
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it was it ended up just being an
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enormous amount of work and hassle
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getting together all the little icons
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and putting together all the little
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links and boxes around them and
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everything yeah okay so let me tell you
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just a little story about those white
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boxes uh-huh those white boxes are an
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example of me giving up on something
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because hmm okay okay
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sidebar to the sidebar this was back
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before I found the person who is
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currently my assistant right so this is
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a couple of assistants before I found my
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current assistant and this was one of
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those cases where like you assigned
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someone a task and he said look I need a
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bunch of app icons and what you get back
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is one of these things where you feel
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like if I have to explain to you that
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they can't have white boxes around them
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like I just like this is I can't I can't
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this I don't care enough I don't want to
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reassign this thing like it was just
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whatever I got this back it's not what I
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wanted but it's just it's just done so
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I like I remember those white boxes
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quite intensely I was like oh this is
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not what I was a guy I see yeah okay but
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then one of the other things that does
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happen is there are very few times I
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have written articles on my website and
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it is definitely a thing where the
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frequency has dramatically dropped from
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when I first set up the website and that
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that is 100% like a like a return on
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investment calculation that as my career
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as a youtuber and then podcaster has
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progressed it is up I'll put it this way
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it is near fundamentally impossible for
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me to justify spending almost any time
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writing something that is just going to
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turn into text on the website and it's
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it's almost impossible to justify on two
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levels one I don't have any direct
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advertising on the website so the
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website doesn't really make any money
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and then the other side of it is even if
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I'm just putting together a list article
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like a like a state of the apps list
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article that has a huge opportunity cost
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because it's it's like the same amount
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of mental or I should put it this way
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it's like I only have so much mental
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energy per day that I can throw at
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writing and so to spend that mental
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energy on the list article is like is
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like doubly insane that there's no way
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it's going to make any revenue and it is
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the opportunity cost is incredible so
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that that's partly why I like articles
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have have just disappeared from the
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repertoire of what are the things that I
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do I just don't really do them anymore
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so that is why I like state of the apps'
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was was toward the end of that phase
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where I was realizing that that writing
00:31:00
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doesn't make any sense in the portfolio
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of gray industries yeah that's but
00:31:05
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that's also why it just it never got
00:31:07
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another it never got a follow-up and
00:31:09
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then why write an article and you can
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make a great podcast up again of it
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hence state of the apps 2017 here we are
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no no Mike it's it's state of the apps
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2018 right yeah how do you not
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yes state of the apps 2018 that's what
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this is well I'm I'm too deep in upgrade
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ease 2017 thinking right now okay right
00:31:31
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yes that makes sense though because it's
00:31:33
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the award for the previous year exactly
00:31:35
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but see if we if we put this podcast up
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with the title state of the apps 2017
00:31:40
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people won't be listening to it next
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Christmas yep so stay at the apps 2018
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you previously did this with a bunch of
00:31:47
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categories yeah and I have made a little
00:31:50
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note in our document of all the
00:31:51
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categories but you sent me a little my
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map and the categories are totally
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different so what I was planning on
00:32:02
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doing is I was gonna go through all the
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categories but now if you're gonna have
00:32:06
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to suggest the categories and we go so
00:32:09
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we can start wherever you want to start
00:32:11
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okay this is also actually one of the
00:32:13
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reasons why I think this this kind of
00:32:15
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makes this is actually better to do as a
00:32:18
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podcast because I think rather than me
00:32:21
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just like listing a few things there is
00:32:23
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there is a way that you can like talk
00:32:24
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about why you've chosen a thing show oh
00:32:27
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or in a in a way that makes more sense
00:32:30
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but this but this is this is the
00:32:32
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difficulty here like where do things fit
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and I feel like no no I'm very happy to
00:32:37
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follow your format Mike you run the show
00:32:38
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right okay you're the you're the man
00:32:40
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you're the man who does all of the
00:32:43
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things I just I just show up that's
00:32:46
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that's what I do so you want me to run
00:32:48
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through the previous 2014 format and
00:32:51
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we're gonna talk about them all I am
00:32:53
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happy to rearrange on the fly in
00:32:56
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whatever whatever way makes sense for
00:32:58
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►
you because this morning also just like
00:33:01
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a little little sidebar to the article
00:33:03
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►
this morning one of the things that was
00:33:05
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deep we look at what as many you know we
00:33:08
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closed those previous talk now this is
00:33:10
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another one like you have to keep the
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parenthesis open and
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in your mind right in you but with
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different colors like in a programming
00:33:16
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text editor anyway looking back over my
00:33:19
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old article this morning when I was
00:33:20
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preparing for the show I realized that a
00:33:22
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lot of those categories don't even
00:33:24
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entirely make sense anymore
00:33:26
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and and part of it is recognizing like I
00:33:29
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had these overlapping field of fields of
00:33:31
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work that I didn't at that point and I
00:33:34
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was really shocked to realize that that
00:33:36
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article was written before I had done
00:33:38
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any podcasting at all oh really yeah
00:33:41
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yeah that this was this was prior to any
00:33:44
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podcast existing and I was looking at
00:33:48
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some of my software choices I was like
00:33:49
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oh my god how did you do anything with
00:33:53
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that buddy like how how were you putting
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together videos with GarageBand still
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like I don't understand what how passed
00:34:00
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Gray was doing that stuff so the
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categories have have sort of changed so
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this morning I wasn't really sure how to
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arrange things in my little my little
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just making notes oh you you lead I will
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follow Mike so let's start in in in OG
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order with productivity mmm so what are
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some of your what is some of your app
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picks for productivity because there I
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think something that maybe didn't exist
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and does exist now I know it's in my
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kind of list for stuff and I can see
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that you have some things like this - of
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services as well as apps and I think
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that is just a change from 2013 to now
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is that there are a lot more services
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they exist yeah this is this is
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definitely a thing is recognizing
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services exist okay so on that note the
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big productivity service and end a thing
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that has made made a really big
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difference to me this year and I think
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I'm gonna touch on a little bit more in
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our next episode where we plan to talk
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about our year themes oh no don't tell
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people well that's not a very great
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thing to do right now if something
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changes I'm pinning you down Mike okay
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next episode your games right but a
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service related to that the biggest
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biggest thing that I've spent the moe
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time on this past year is by far and
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away toggle which is the the time
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tracking service and ten thousand people
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just stopped listening by everyone say
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that like everybody everybody likes the
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time tracking conversations I don't know
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I don't know what you're talking about
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but yeah by far in a way it's like is
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toggle and app no it's not really an app
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but it's it's a service that you can use
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in a bunch of different ways from a
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bunch of different places to keep to
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keep track of time tracking yeah they
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have an iPhone app that isn't horrific
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now yeah I have they have an okay iPhone
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app but it's only on the iPhone both me
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and you still use it with some workflow
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triggers that we set up yeah I would
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that's exactly what I would describe it
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to is is that their their iPhone app is
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okay it's it's serviceable a web app is
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vastly better like using amusing toggles
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website is is way better than using
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their app even on an iPhone oh yeah
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without a doubt that that's definitely
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the case but yeah so that's that is like
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that is just a big overarching umbrella
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under which a lot of this other stuff
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Falls is that throughout the past year I
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have gotten better and better and better
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at nearly constantly running a toggle
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timer in the background when I'm awake
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and then that obviously connects into
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these things like we've like we just
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mentioned there it's like how do I do
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that I'm using workflow as like a custom
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interface on top of toggle so that I can
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have preset timers turn on just by
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pressing a single button so I don't need
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to fiddle with their app I don't need to
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fiddle with the website and I think if
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there was if there was some kind of
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frequency tracker for how often you
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launch an app my workflow that I save on
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my phone to start picking toggle timers
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to start that has got to be my most open
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app by two orders of magnitude compared
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to anything else on my phone by far so I
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I would say though those are the those
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are the big ones big ones for me this
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year in productivity I would say without
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a doubt it's the same for me to achieve
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my year of less I started time tracking
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and time tracking is a habit for me now
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I've recognized this the most when I
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travel because when I travel even if I'm
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working I tend not to time track yeah
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it's really hard to do when you're
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traveling but the reason that I know
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this is worked is immediately when I
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come home I start again mm-hmm you know
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it's not that like I'm away for a couple
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of weeks come home and then I've just
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fell out of the habit of it now I just
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go straight back into regular mode again
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and it goes back to time tracking and
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for me personally I wouldn't say that
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like I'm using this data very frequently
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to make decisions about the way that I
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work but I have used this data a couple
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of really key points for me this year
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and having that data is vastly superior
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to not having that data when it's come
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to me to make some decisions about my
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working life mmm there's also just a
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mode shift in pressing the button yeah
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like press the button right here we go
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going to work now like and then when I'm
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I clock out and that just the way that
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that makes me feel like the clocking in
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and clocking out or certain tasks really
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kind of helps solidify in my mind when
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I'm working on when I'm not more next
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time but but one of the benefits for me
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with toggle is the same things like how
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how often am I really using that data in
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a in a granular way not a lot but what
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is mentally helpful is simply knowing
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that somewhere there's a clock running
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makes me more conscious of what I'm
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doing in any particular moment and it
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just it makes me more intentional in the
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decisions that I'm making about how I'm
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spending my time and for that alone I
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think it's a it's a really great it's a
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really great improvement and the the
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biggest deal and biggest difference by
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far in the in the productivity category
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for me I also switched to todoist this
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my to do my task management tool and
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I've been very happy with todoist
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it he gives me basically everything that
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I needed from OmniFocus and the things
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that OmniFocus has to do this doesn't
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I've ended up not being deal breakers
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for me at all but the thing that I
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wanted is the thing that I got which is
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the ability for other applications and
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services to be able to read and write to
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my task manager that has been great for
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me and I've been very happy and continue
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to explore ways to do this because it's
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enabling me to not have to remember
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everything that not every entry that
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goes into my task manager has to come
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from me remembering to put a thing in it
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sometimes things just appear in it on
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their own and I find great comfort in
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how much do you use their shared
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features like you're using that with
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relay or with anybody else zero okay so
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you're using it as a yeah I mostly don't
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like the idea of somebody being like a
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person being able to add and remove
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tasks from lists I just personally like
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to put it in myself and assume that the
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other people person will do the same
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I've played around of it a little bit
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and ultimately I don't like all that
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stuff being in the same place my my
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to-do app is like a fortress right and
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there's one tunnel which is for web
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services and that's the only tunnel I
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think was it I think it was at your
00:41:28
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urging I tried to duyst and for me it
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has fallen into the exact opposite role
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which is that it is purely for shared
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tasks and I don't use it at all for an
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individual so this is the program that
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is used between my assistants and I and
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even there it's it's interesting to see
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that what has happened is it's not like
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it is it's not used on unlike a daily
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basis of checking in things and being
00:42:02
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constantly updated but we have ended up
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using it like a record of what
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the active projects to review every once
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in a while so it's acting like it's a
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like a placeholder for what are the
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things that are going on hmm
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but it's it's clearly not being used by
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either of us as like the busy daily
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thing and like on her and she has her
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own system that she's actually using for
00:42:32
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her task management personally in the
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same way that I am using my own stuff
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for my personal things but this is this
00:42:39
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is just like where are we in on a very
00:42:42
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high level on various projects like that
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that's what has ended up happening with
00:42:46
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with to do is for me see you actually
00:42:49
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using a task manager again okay so we
00:42:53
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talk about three task managers I mean
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shall we I don't know I guess if that's
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what we're doing I was only asking if
00:43:02
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you were using one but if it takes free
00:43:04
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to talk about it then sure we'll do that
00:43:07
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okay let's let's run through a few of
00:43:09
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the of the task managers that I have on
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my on my list here clear your afternoon
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everyone know I can get through this
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very quickly okay I can get through it
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very quickly indeed so what yeah the
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task manager thing I do I do a little
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bit want to save that again for a
00:43:25
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conversation next time show but I will
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I'll broadly say that it's like yes I've
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been trying to get back into using task
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managers on a more regular basis because
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this year I was a little bit in the
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wilderness with task managers and what
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I'm currently doing is I'm using three
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four different things OmniFocus is still
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the heavy weights task manager where I
00:43:53
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can throw a bunch of templates into it
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right really long checklists for putting
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up podcasts or putting up videos like
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that that is the the heaviest of the
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heavy weight things I'm using to do as
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like I try to think about how to
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describe this this morning but I've been
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using to do is like a habit or routine
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tracker so these are tasks like
00:44:21
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in the morning I have a bunch of things
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that I call like boot up and I want to
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run through those things like here's a
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bunch of easy wins in the morning to
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check up check off these boxes and
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you're just getting the day started
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right like one of them one of the
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simplest ones is just like drink a glass
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of water in the morning because it's
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just like I've seen like I definitely
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have a better day when I do that so that
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goes in to do and then like another one
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of those things like go to the office
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alright that's like another little part
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of the morning routine it's like okay
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I can tick this off in the box so all of
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these things are actual items in a
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checklist that you check off
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yeah they are items in the checklist
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that I check off so let me ask you a
00:45:02
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question then hmm how do you remember to
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start the list to do shows the badge on
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my phone right so that's that's the
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that's the way it communicates to me so
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what are these daily recurring tasks
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yeah there's the way I've set it up and
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to do is their daily recurring tasks
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that are set as due in the morning or
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due in the middle of the day or do in
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the evening which are like my three
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primary habit locations where I want to
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reinforce some behavior and so I just
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ticked them off every day and their
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daily repeating and they and they come
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back on the on the day that they need to
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but I said I really like it this is this
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is a kind of task that for a long time
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I've always done that that I think of as
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like a workflow sort of task this is
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this isn't the actual work maybe these
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things do or don't need to happen on any
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particular day but like this is how a
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theoretically perfect day would go this
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is the kind of day that you want to
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reestablish and like I said I really
00:46:01
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like it in the morning for starting a
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kind of momentum to make things just
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like easy to begin the day and feel like
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okay great I got some my brain got some
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quick meaningless wins but it still it
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still helps get the ball rolling on the
00:46:17
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bigger things that need to happen okay
00:46:20
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so what's the third one okay so that the
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final one is when I just been playing
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around with a little bit which is things
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and things has taken over the slot from
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clear which is
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the the place for having a really simple
00:46:39
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superb limited task manager so what I
00:46:44
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like that for is sometimes on busy days
00:46:47
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I feel like I need to put or I should I
00:46:50
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should back up not on a busy day but I
00:46:53
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very often find on days where you're
00:46:55
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feeling overwhelmed by tasks the most
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effective thing is to really narrow down
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and to say okay
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I'm feeling really overwhelmed there's
00:47:05
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like a whole bunch of stuff in the world
00:47:06
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OmniFocus has a badge that has 67 in it
00:47:09
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you know like I'm really overdue on a
00:47:12
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whole bunch of stuff that would end my
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life you know what do you mean like that
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would be it I would die if I saw a badge
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that said 67 now just that be it I would
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immediately die yeah it's this is one of
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the disadvantages of having like of
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having of being ridiculously thorough
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with like all the stuff that needs to
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happen and putting it into a system is
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that you can end up with this like like
00:47:41
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sudden overloads where a bunch of things
00:47:43
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come together all at once and you're
00:47:44
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like oh god everything this automatic
00:47:46
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system is showing me a million things
00:47:47
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that are due today if if my if my badge
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when I wake up in the morning on to
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doest is over seven I know that my day
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is like yeah this you have to keep in
00:48:02
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mind that that in OmniFocus on being
00:48:04
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ridiculously granular yeah I know you
00:48:07
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don't have like 67 podcasts to post that
00:48:09
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day but it's just like that number it's
00:48:12
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just horrific to me and there are ways
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in which like when you're really on your
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game it doesn't matter and like oh great
00:48:18
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okay I've got a lot of stuff I'm gonna
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sort of blow through it but I do I do
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like to have on hand something that I
00:48:23
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can use as the I'm going to have a
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simple and narrowly focused day and in
00:48:32
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the past I've always used clear for that
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but clear hasn't updated in a while I
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know that they are intending to release
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a new version soon but they haven't
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actually done it yet I still use clear
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and I am on the beta for clear no I know
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the app is coming
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be awesome like I know that I could I
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cuz I can see it they are working on a
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new version I went to mention that
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because every time we mentioned clear
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there are people that send us
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screenshots now of like because they've
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said I mean they've said it publicly you
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can look in your release notes and
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they're saying that they are working on
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a new version and and I have been using
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the new version and it's great so I'm
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just saying like for me for right now
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I'm just using things in that place and
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I've always felt like things is a very
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nicely designed app which which is why
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can it can easily take over that slot in
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my mind from clear whereas like the
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thing that I liked and clear is like
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it's simple and it's nicely designed and
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things fills that same role like it's
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simple and it's nicely designed and it's
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very easy to say on things okay here are
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four things that if I I do today I'll
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feel like it was a great day and I'm
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just going to have a day where I'm
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focused more narrowly on on what's
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occurring so those are the ways in my
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mind that I use these different task
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managers from like lightest weight
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things to heaviest weight how many focus
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and that's that's that's currently what
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I'm using with those so you're actually
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using full task managers I don't really
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count to do is to focus realm I do but I
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mean I'm gonna count it for you yeah the
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reason the reason that I don't is in my
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mind like to do is could easily be
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replaced by a Google Doc like a shared
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Google dot whip doc with some bullet
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points on yeah but like things could
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just be remind us well like a piece of
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paper yeah I see what you're saying
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I guess I guess it's just like any if
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anything could be anything if we tried
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like I know that this this could be
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distributed as an audio cassettes
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exactly but so there are four cost
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managers that are in use like yeah I
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just don't think of to do is like a task
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manager uh-huh because I feel like I'm
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using almost none of the features of a
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task manager okay I can sympathize if
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you a little bit because like people
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always mention how I have like three to
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that like to do managers on my home
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screen also writing like that right now
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I think it's only two because I have to
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do because view is amazing for just
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those things like take out the trash and
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remind a few men oh yeah I love doing I
00:51:09
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didn't even mention that one because
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it's not really the same like taking out
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the trash isn't like publishing a
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podcast I mean I guess the sometimes
00:51:18
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awesome similarities between those two
00:51:20
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things but like they're completely
00:51:21
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different actions yeah I mean if you if
00:51:24
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you really if you really want to be
00:51:25
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pernickety about it you could get this
00:51:27
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number for me up to six yeah because I
00:51:29
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do also use reminders the built-in
00:51:32
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reminders and notes Olli has a checklist
00:51:34
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function no okay no but I don't ask the
00:51:37
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cow you can do remind this infant has to
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count note that note that okay you're
00:51:42
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pushing it too far Mike this is just
00:51:43
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ridiculous but I do use one of the very
00:51:47
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few things that series useful for is
00:51:49
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sometimes being able to just tell her
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like remind me about a thing at this
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time right or when I leave my house
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remind me to whatever I don't do that
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very often but I do do that sometimes
00:52:00
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and so yeah I guess six is the maximum
00:52:03
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and theory that it could be so we are
00:52:05
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still in the productivity category which
00:52:07
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I had expected would probably be the
00:52:10
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category that we spend the most time
00:52:11
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looking about I guess for me as well in
00:52:15
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there would be something like
00:52:16
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fantastical like my calendar is very
00:52:18
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important mmm and I would I would assume
00:52:23
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that that was your pick too fantastical
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yeah so I I use two calendars I can fill
00:52:30
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it an Apple calendar and I use
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fantastical why are you laughing Mike
00:52:40
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one is none right okay no that's that's
00:52:44
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a that doesn't apply to calendaring apps
00:52:46
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no you just you just being silly now
00:52:48
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Mike oh okay of course it doesn't
00:52:49
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you just have to for fun why else would
00:52:52
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you have to I like to have the I have
00:52:56
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the to simply so that I can I can leave
00:52:58
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them in different states
00:53:01
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so like fantastical I use as the like
00:53:05
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what are the most important things I
00:53:07
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need to see today so fantastical has a
00:53:10
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very very limited subsection of the
00:53:12
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calendars that ever
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has open so when I open it up like
00:53:17
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things I want to see on fantastical are
00:53:19
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my podcasting calendar I was like do I
00:53:22
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need to be recording something today the
00:53:24
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social calendar that's shared with my
00:53:26
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wife like am I supposed to be at some
00:53:28
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dinner party I didn't remember until the
00:53:30
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last possible second right it's like
00:53:31
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okay yeah that'll be there and I have my
00:53:36
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own calendar that I call changes which
00:53:39
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is essentially anything that I need to
00:53:41
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know about on the day that's different
00:53:43
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from normal so like meetings or like any
00:53:46
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place that I need to be that that's
00:53:48
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gonna be there so what I like to have is
00:53:51
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fantastical is just those and the place
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I actually use it the most is there
00:53:58
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little widget on the phone so that I can
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swipe over into the widget area and just
00:54:03
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really quickly this is actually one of
00:54:05
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my little like morning routine things is
00:54:08
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check the calendar just to see if
00:54:10
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there's anything you've totally
00:54:11
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forgotten about today and that like that
00:54:13
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is all I want to see whereas the regular
00:54:18
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built-in Apple calendar there I have a
00:54:19
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whole bunch of other things that like
00:54:22
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none of them are urgent but if I'm
00:54:24
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planning my year like I want to see a
00:54:25
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bunch of different things but so
00:54:28
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fantastical I use is just a fast way to
00:54:30
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access the most important subset of the
00:54:32
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calendars that I want to take a look at
00:54:33
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how many calendars do you have Mike just
00:54:35
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fantastical just the one yeah oh I mean
00:54:37
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the Apple Canada is installed on my
00:54:39
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device right yeah we really talked about
00:54:41
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the things you use though but yeah I
00:54:42
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don't use it for anything I just use
00:54:44
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fantastical one thing that fantastical
00:54:47
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on the Mac has which I wish they would
00:54:49
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bring to the iPhone version is the idea
00:54:51
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of calendar sets yeah it's really nice
00:54:55
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yeah I wish I wish that they would do
00:54:58
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that as well like so like you can switch
00:55:00
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modes between like I want to have two
00:55:02
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sets and they have three different
00:55:04
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calendars in each so like you could
00:55:06
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build that system in there if you wanted
00:55:08
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to way like you have the one that you
00:55:10
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have all the time but then when you want
00:55:11
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to see everything you just change set
00:55:12
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and you get everything which I like to
00:55:14
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use this on the Mac because there are
00:55:16
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some calendars that I only need access
00:55:18
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to to input stuff and ever need to see
00:55:20
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them because they're truhearing things
00:55:22
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and all like are we broadcast shows live
00:55:25
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a lot of relay FM and we have a
00:55:27
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facing live calendar so if I change the
00:55:30
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tenth time of a recording I'm doing I
00:55:33
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also have to change it on the live
00:55:34
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calendar as well so I would like I
00:55:36
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wished that there was an easier way to
00:55:38
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bring that in rather than having to like
00:55:39
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go into settings and manually enable the
00:55:42
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calendar and blah blah blah ya know that
00:55:45
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is a really nice feature and and
00:55:47
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especially if you're in a situation
00:55:49
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where you're working with other people
00:55:51
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and you need to have shared calendars
00:55:53
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that you might not need to be thinking
00:55:54
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about in all all different situations
00:55:56
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the ability on the Mac to switch between
00:55:58
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these different calendar sets is is
00:56:00
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really great it's it's a it's a great
00:56:03
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addition that I wish that they would
00:56:05
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bring to iOS yeah for sure today's show
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to call out a little bit of a little bit
00:58:05
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00:58:06
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mm-hmm that I think we can maybe end on
00:58:09
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and then maybe do like a lightning round
00:58:11
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afterward but yep I think there's
00:58:12
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there's like communications as a concept
00:58:15
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is something that I didn't have in the
00:58:17
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2014 one well a long time ago when to
00:58:21
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anyone it is it is no joke but it was a
00:58:26
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thing that I was so aware of which is
00:58:28
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what I'm gonna say is personally for me
00:58:34
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you know it's communications is a very
00:58:38
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hard aspect of my working life it's not
00:58:41
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a thing that I am good at and it is not
00:58:44
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a thing that I manage well and it was
00:58:47
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something looking over the the 2014 the
00:58:50
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state of the apps I didn't have a little
00:58:51
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bit of wistfulness of like oh that past
00:58:54
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gray he just got to be on his own all
00:58:58
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day long like he didn't have to work
00:58:59
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with anybody you know and now there's
00:59:01
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like this orbit of people that I do work
00:59:03
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with and it's like I'm just not very
00:59:05
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good at communications but so now I feel
00:59:09
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like I'm always I'm always sort of
00:59:12
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juggling communication systems are like
00:59:15
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trying to figure out how to make them
00:59:16
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work and and the biggest change in
00:59:19
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communications particularly over the
00:59:21
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last year is the presence of slack in my
00:59:27
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like slack has just taken over so much
00:59:33
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and when I when I first when I first
00:59:38
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started using slack I like this is the
00:59:40
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greatest thing ever like this is a
00:59:41
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million times better than email but what
00:59:44
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was really the case is it's just there
00:59:47
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were so much fewer things coming through
00:59:51
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then at email and as as slack has spread
00:59:56
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over time and I've slowly
00:59:56
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over time and I've slowly
02:00:00
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inside of it which I am the fastest in
02:00:02
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the world at completing and okay I
02:00:04
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literally am there's a game center yeah
02:00:07
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yeah and I understand all right versus
02:00:09
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just we just transitioned this app
02:00:11
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recommendation into a brag yeah I got it
02:00:13
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yep and I love the game because it
02:00:15
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shouldn't be in the calculator and it is
02:00:17
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and I love it it there are like two
02:00:20
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separate levels to this game and James
02:00:22
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Thompson is a wonderful genius and I
02:00:26
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yeah it's wild it shouldn't exist but it
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does and I love it it's a great
02:00:31
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calculator app it's my calculator app of
02:00:33
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choice as well
02:00:34
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mm-hmm and of course we also know James
02:00:36
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Thomson just for the record mm-hmm yeah
02:00:40
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so what's really important to say that
02:00:42
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we know James I don't know is it
02:00:45
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important to say that I don't know like
02:00:47
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do we legally have to say that I never
02:00:49
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don't think we do but I feel like I
02:00:52
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don't think I legally have to say it but
02:00:54
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I feel like I should say it because
02:00:57
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people might be like oh I see him
02:00:59
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interacting with him on Twitter all the
02:01:01
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time and yeah like and and and also I
02:01:04
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think if we don't say it
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it could belittle the quality to people
02:01:08
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right so like if they work out that
02:01:10
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we're friends with these people they'll
02:01:11
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be like are there only recommending that
02:01:12
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because they're friends but like I'm
02:01:14
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really not it's an excellent calculator
02:01:16
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it's the best calculator but I just I
02:01:20
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don't know I don't know how this stuff
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I also don't know like is this are we
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good now that we've said at this once
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and next year if we mentioned peacock
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again do we have to mentioned again or
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are we all set
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well yeah but I don't assume that
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everybody's heard everything you know I
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mean I think we should have we should
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assume that that cortex listeners I
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listen to every episode Esther but but I
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just like I don't know I don't know how
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this is and I also feel like this might
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be one of these things that is a meme
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that just spreads mm-hm the idea of like
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okay you legally have to disclose must
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sell a set of things but then everybody
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gets worried that you have to fix you
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have to confess the set of like n plus-1
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things which then just push pushes the
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boundary out further so it's like I
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don't know I don't know how this works
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but just for some reason I kept feeling
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like any time we know what developers
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like we got to make it really clear they
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also have a podcast on real
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I really like CGP grey but he also want
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me lunch one time so like wellness today
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yeah yeah I don't know I don't know at
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all how this works to finish up my
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recommendations I have a simple
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recommendation an app that does one
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thing very well that app is called
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Thunder scape and it plays Thunder
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sounds in the background if you're
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looking for Thunder sounds while you're
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working thunder escape is where you want
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yep all right so I don't have to do this
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again for another five years is that how
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no remember it's ten months no right
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okay just ten months now this is get now
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this is getting confusing mm-hmm there
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you go people you can stop asking