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00:00:00 ◼   ► so gray do you know how I know you've

00:00:03 ◼   ► changed how do you know that I've

00:00:05 ◼   ► changed well moments before we started

00:00:08 ◼   ► this Cole hmm I received a message from

00:00:11 ◼   ► you which was a video of you picking up

00:00:14 ◼   ► a mr. chompers dog poo yeah as requested

00:00:17 ◼   ► as requested and I was looking at going

00:00:20 ◼   ► he's changed and then the FaceTime Co

00:00:24 ◼   ► happens up you pop on my screen and

00:00:26 ◼   ► there you are cuddling mr. chompers mr.

00:00:31 ◼   ► chompers is in the house right now sadly

00:00:33 ◼   ► I can't have him here while I'm

00:00:35 ◼   ► recording because the chomping sounds

00:00:38 ◼   ► would overwhelm everything he's really

00:00:40 ◼   ► into his chew bones it would literally

00:00:42 ◼   ► be just the background of the entire

00:00:46 ◼   ► podcast and you think people wouldn't

00:00:48 ◼   ► like that I think it would be

00:00:49 ◼   ► distracting I think that people wouldn't

00:00:50 ◼   ► like that

00:00:51 ◼   ► so he's currently in the other room

00:00:53 ◼   ► being looked after by my wife and he's a

00:00:56 ◼   ► very sleepy dog because he had a huge

00:00:58 ◼   ► walk through the park today

00:01:00 ◼   ► so he's chilling out right now in the

00:01:01 ◼   ► next room I have to say I'm impressed by

00:01:03 ◼   ► mr. chompers cuteness I would say he's

00:01:05 ◼   ► approaching 80 to 90% of Audrey cuteness

00:01:08 ◼   ► oh okay is that how you measure dog

00:01:11 ◼   ► cuteness you know only asymptotically

00:01:13 ◼   ► approach one Audrey for cuteness is that

00:01:16 ◼   ► how that works yeah it can't ever

00:01:17 ◼   ► actually be reached but you know but

00:01:19 ◼   ► dogs can get closer and closer to what

00:01:21 ◼   ► one Audrey of cuteness he's pretty cute

00:01:24 ◼   ► he may lose a bit of that as he gets a

00:01:25 ◼   ► bit bigger but he's still quite a sight

00:01:27 ◼   ► yeah he's adorable but they do grow up

00:01:30 ◼   ► so fast no not if you've got an Audrey

00:01:32 ◼   ► it's true she does not change in size

00:01:35 ◼   ► but they D puppy so fast that's true

00:01:38 ◼   ► like I look into his little mr. chompers

00:01:40 ◼   ► face and even just over the weeks that

00:01:42 ◼   ► I've known him I can see that he's

00:01:44 ◼   ► getting a little bit more jolly in his

00:01:46 ◼   ► face iris like oh your puppy face is

00:01:48 ◼   ► becoming just a bit more jolly as you

00:01:50 ◼   ► get older he's still super adorable I

00:01:52 ◼   ► think the same thing about you sometimes

00:01:53 ◼   ► I think we all get more jelly as we as

00:01:56 ◼   ► we age it's like what you're getting a

00:01:58 ◼   ► squeeze now little guy like that's

00:01:59 ◼   ► what's happening right little squeeze

00:02:01 ◼   ► maybe a little kiss on the head is

00:02:03 ◼   ► nothing but purifying after mr. chompers

00:02:05 ◼   ► you put your mouth on him yeah what's we

00:02:08 ◼   ► didn't you kiss a dog Brady not on the

00:02:09 ◼   ► middle obviously cuz they're disgusting

00:02:12 ◼   ► and peep

00:02:13 ◼   ► do that that is vile right that is

00:02:16 ◼   ► absolutely vile and I have to say as key

00:02:18 ◼   ► as mr. chompers is he would be quite

00:02:20 ◼   ► high on the list of dogs I would not

00:02:22 ◼   ► want to kiss on the mouth there's one of

00:02:23 ◼   ► these things where it's a bit like

00:02:24 ◼   ► having a baby where it where they do

00:02:25 ◼   ► like a gross thing and you feel like the

00:02:27 ◼   ► parents are always like oh but it's my

00:02:29 ◼   ► baby so it's less gross mr. chompers

00:02:31 ◼   ► does have this habit of sneezing right

00:02:35 ◼   ► into my face and sometimes I can sense

00:02:38 ◼   ► that it's coming like a split second

00:02:40 ◼   ► before it's about to happen yeah you

00:02:42 ◼   ► could see like he's that he's like a

00:02:43 ◼   ► snout II dog with a huge amount when he

00:02:45 ◼   ► sneezes right in your face it is so

00:02:47 ◼   ► gross gross it is not a light delicate

00:02:51 ◼   ► sneeze it's disgusting but now a little

00:02:54 ◼   ► kiss on the top of the head for mr.

00:02:55 ◼   ► chompers yeah that's perfectly fine

00:02:57 ◼   ► that's nice but like people who do dog

00:02:59 ◼   ► kisses on the mouth disgusting

00:03:00 ◼   ► sharing ice cream with the dog gross

00:03:03 ◼   ► right don't to that that's that's

00:03:04 ◼   ► revolting you got any more mr. chompers

00:03:07 ◼   ► stories to share what's been going on

00:03:08 ◼   ► what's the what's the latest well I mean

00:03:11 ◼   ► here's the thing Brady you said I have

00:03:13 ◼   ► changed I don't think I have changed at

00:03:15 ◼   ► all I'm still the same person hmm but I

00:03:17 ◼   ► do feel like I've fallen into an

00:03:20 ◼   ► alternate universe version of London

00:03:24 ◼   ► because we've been training mr. chompers

00:03:27 ◼   ► to be better a walking walking not his

00:03:30 ◼   ► strongest suit

00:03:31 ◼   ► he can be very stubborn and just sort of

00:03:33 ◼   ► sits there but he's gotten much better

00:03:34 ◼   ► and in the past mm 10 days we can now

00:03:37 ◼   ► take him on real little walks like what

00:03:40 ◼   ► we're walking through the park and he's

00:03:41 ◼   ► coming along and he's doing great but

00:03:43 ◼   ► now this means we're in our local park

00:03:45 ◼   ► and there are neighborhood dogs here

00:03:47 ◼   ► well mr. jumpers is one of them yeah mr.

00:03:49 ◼   ► chompers is totally one of the

00:03:50 ◼   ► neighborhood dogs and there's a thing

00:03:53 ◼   ► that which I think I've mentioned before

00:03:54 ◼   ► but I think it's fantastic which is in

00:03:56 ◼   ► London and I think almost every single

00:03:59 ◼   ► Park dog czar just allowed off the

00:04:01 ◼   ► leashes which is fantastic I think it's

00:04:03 ◼   ► the way that it should be dogs just go

00:04:05 ◼   ► like run wild and crazy in the park and

00:04:07 ◼   ► this actually going to some of the

00:04:10 ◼   ► themes of the show I think is a perfect

00:04:12 ◼   ► case where things are more safe when

00:04:16 ◼   ► they seem less safe like so by having

00:04:18 ◼   ► all of the dogs off of the leashes

00:04:20 ◼   ► they're just fine like they're just

00:04:22 ◼   ► running around doing what they want and

00:04:24 ◼   ► they don't really interact with people

00:04:25 ◼   ► and there is a way

00:04:27 ◼   ► dogs when they're on leashes the very

00:04:29 ◼   ► fact that they're on a leash can sort of

00:04:32 ◼   ► agitate them into more aggressive

00:04:34 ◼   ► behavior so I think it's better for

00:04:35 ◼   ► everybody when the dogs are off the

00:04:37 ◼   ► leash --is and they're just like running

00:04:38 ◼   ► around I agree with that the sort of the

00:04:40 ◼   ► natural order of things can be done

00:04:42 ◼   ► whereas if they're on a leash as well

00:04:43 ◼   ► you know dogs can't run and move in the

00:04:45 ◼   ► ways that they need to in sort of dog

00:04:48 ◼   ► world and it's also like like when we're

00:04:50 ◼   ► sort of training mr. chompers about how

00:04:52 ◼   ► to be polite in his interactions with

00:04:53 ◼   ► other dogs like because he's still a

00:04:56 ◼   ► little bit too young we are keeping him

00:04:58 ◼   ► on the leash but it's very clear to see

00:05:00 ◼   ► that there's a way in which like if we

00:05:02 ◼   ► don't notice that a dog is coming and he

00:05:04 ◼   ► sort of jumps that the tugging of the

00:05:07 ◼   ► leash will like amp him up whereas if

00:05:09 ◼   ► you just have him sit down and sort of

00:05:11 ◼   ► put him into sitting position then he's

00:05:12 ◼   ► very calm and everything's fine but it's

00:05:13 ◼   ► like the leash can aggravate some dog

00:05:16 ◼   ► behavior but anyway all of this is to

00:05:17 ◼   ► say when you're in the park and dogs are

00:05:20 ◼   ► not on leashes and this is just the way

00:05:21 ◼   ► they are dogs they don't care at all

00:05:23 ◼   ► about humans right they're too busy

00:05:24 ◼   ► doing their own dog affairs you know

00:05:26 ◼   ► they're up to whatever they are up to

00:05:27 ◼   ► yeah and in in the years that I have

00:05:30 ◼   ► lived in London and the years that my

00:05:31 ◼   ► wife and I have walked through the local

00:05:33 ◼   ► park we can count on one hand the number

00:05:36 ◼   ► of times a dog has come up to us to say

00:05:39 ◼   ► hello and almost always it has been a

00:05:41 ◼   ► little puppy dog right yeah but now that

00:05:43 ◼   ► we are walking a little puppy dog all

00:05:45 ◼   ► the dogs come up to us right so it's

00:05:48 ◼   ► like I am getting to meet all of the

00:05:50 ◼   ► neighborhood dogs and it feels like I

00:05:52 ◼   ► have this subjective feeling like there

00:05:54 ◼   ► are 10 times as many dogs in the city as

00:05:57 ◼   ► there ever have been of course the

00:05:58 ◼   ► number hasn't changed but I'm just

00:06:00 ◼   ► supremely aware of all of them and it's

00:06:03 ◼   ► like everywhere I go I'm walking little

00:06:05 ◼   ► mr. chompers and like oh and we're

00:06:07 ◼   ► meeting all of these other dogs it's

00:06:08 ◼   ► like oh hello how are you right and you

00:06:10 ◼   ► like find out the dog's name and doing

00:06:12 ◼   ► little chit chats with them so it's like

00:06:14 ◼   ► I live in a completely different city

00:06:16 ◼   ► when I go out walking with mr. chompers

00:06:18 ◼   ► it is a city that is filled with dogs

00:06:21 ◼   ► who want to interact in a way that they

00:06:23 ◼   ► just never did before so it's it's like

00:06:24 ◼   ► a whole new world for me I bet you're

00:06:27 ◼   ► like made to where you just the humans

00:06:29 ◼   ► are almost don't exist - I always have

00:06:31 ◼   ► conversations with my wife and she'll be

00:06:33 ◼   ► like ah did you see you know Jenny at

00:06:35 ◼   ► the park and I'm like Jenny who who the

00:06:37 ◼   ► heck's Jenny and sugar you know the one

00:06:39 ◼   ► with the white dog with the fluffy

00:06:40 ◼   ► oh yeah I know that dog yeah yeah I had

00:06:43 ◼   ► no idea who the person is it's all like

00:06:46 ◼   ► dogs with like just a human attach that

00:06:48 ◼   ► you're vaguely aware of it's like the

00:06:50 ◼   ► human is just the metadata for the dog

00:06:52 ◼   ► like that y'all can interrogate what's

00:06:54 ◼   ► the dog's name

00:06:54 ◼   ► how old is everything and like okay

00:06:56 ◼   ► you've given me the information I need

00:06:58 ◼   ► let's get back to the dogs 100% and what

00:07:01 ◼   ► I absolutely love is that it seems like

00:07:03 ◼   ► everybody has this agreed-upon social

00:07:06 ◼   ► convention so you're exchanging dog

00:07:09 ◼   ► names but no joke in the last week I

00:07:12 ◼   ► probably met a hundred dogs right how

00:07:15 ◼   ► many of those humans have told me their

00:07:16 ◼   ► name zero right how many of those demons

00:07:19 ◼   ► do I want to know their name zero right

00:07:22 ◼   ► how many of those humans have I told my

00:07:24 ◼   ► name to zero how many of those humans

00:07:26 ◼   ► have we had a little conversation about

00:07:28 ◼   ► Oh what do you do for work right none of

00:07:31 ◼   ► them it is the best human interaction

00:07:33 ◼   ► that there can possibly be yeah and

00:07:35 ◼   ► talking about the dogs

00:07:37 ◼   ► I find myself genuinely interested in

00:07:38 ◼   ► every one of these conversations where

00:07:40 ◼   ► we're talking about like their dogs

00:07:41 ◼   ► funny little habits with whatever this

00:07:43 ◼   ► thing is they're like we're meeting some

00:07:44 ◼   ► dogs what what's his favorite toy how

00:07:46 ◼   ► does he do things how long has he been

00:07:47 ◼   ► in the park who are his doggy friends

00:07:49 ◼   ► right yeah like mr. chompers got invited

00:07:51 ◼   ► to a doggy Christmas party as like oh

00:07:53 ◼   ► this is fantastic right like everything

00:07:55 ◼   ► is great here so I'm absolutely 100%

00:07:58 ◼   ► enjoying this alternate universe London

00:08:00 ◼   ► where I get to meet dogs and I also feel

00:08:04 ◼   ► really bad because I'm terrible at

00:08:06 ◼   ► remembering human names but now I feel

00:08:08 ◼   ► like I walked through the park I know

00:08:09 ◼   ► all the dog's names right like I

00:08:10 ◼   ► recognize every single one of them like

00:08:12 ◼   ► Otto who that dog is right ever met that

00:08:13 ◼   ► dog a few times before it's just such a

00:08:15 ◼   ► funny different experience that has

00:08:18 ◼   ► completely changed a local environment

00:08:20 ◼   ► for us we have an extra weird scenario

00:08:22 ◼   ► where we have a dog walker who sometimes

00:08:25 ◼   ► walks Audrey and Lulu when mm-hmm we're

00:08:28 ◼   ► away or were too busy and things like

00:08:29 ◼   ► that and that person walks lots of dogs

00:08:31 ◼   ► and goes to lots of other different

00:08:32 ◼   ► places around where we live so Audrey

00:08:35 ◼   ► and Lulu know all these other dogs that

00:08:38 ◼   ► we don't know and meet all these other

00:08:39 ◼   ► people that we don't know and sometimes

00:08:41 ◼   ► we'll be out walking and we'll come

00:08:43 ◼   ► across someone and a dog who we've never

00:08:45 ◼   ► met before and we'll go to introduce

00:08:47 ◼   ► ourselves but they will already know

00:08:48 ◼   ► everything the dogs will be wagging

00:08:49 ◼   ► their tails and the owners will say oh

00:08:51 ◼   ► yeah we know Audrey and Lulu like you

00:08:53 ◼   ► know we've met the

00:08:53 ◼   ► loads of times and my wife oh okay well

00:08:56 ◼   ► at the pariahs that no one knows but our

00:08:58 ◼   ► dogs are like famous I am in that

00:09:00 ◼   ► position though right because mr.

00:09:03 ◼   ► chompers is not my dog and twice now

00:09:06 ◼   ► I've had someone else recognize they go

00:09:08 ◼   ► oh that's mr. chompers right hey and so

00:09:10 ◼   ► the like these dogs have already met at

00:09:12 ◼   ► some point right and I haven't been

00:09:14 ◼   ► around and it's a very funny situation

00:09:16 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure how to describe my

00:09:19 ◼   ► relationship to mr. chompers it's like

00:09:21 ◼   ► we are some neighbors who talked our way

00:09:24 ◼   ► into looking after this adorable puppy I

00:09:26 ◼   ► haven't quite figured out like what is

00:09:28 ◼   ► the condensed way to describe this

00:09:31 ◼   ► situation you're an unpaid professional

00:09:34 ◼   ► don't care

00:09:35 ◼   ► that's essentially what it is right yeah

00:09:37 ◼   ► it is funny sometimes to run into the

00:09:40 ◼   ► professional dog walkers who will have

00:09:42 ◼   ► it have a pack of like ten dogs and

00:09:43 ◼   ► sometimes some of them will know mr.

00:09:45 ◼   ► chompers and they'll be a little a

00:09:46 ◼   ► little stop and a little talk and it

00:09:48 ◼   ► does through the course of the

00:09:49 ◼   ► conversation I can see the other person

00:09:51 ◼   ► realizes like okay so you're just

00:09:52 ◼   ► walking somebody else's dog for free or

00:09:54 ◼   ► you scab exactly like you're

00:09:56 ◼   ► undercutting the market here you jerk

00:09:58 ◼   ► like what are you doing let me get that

00:10:03 ◼   ► straight this is not your dog you're

00:10:04 ◼   ► just walking him for free yep that's

00:10:06 ◼   ► what I'm doing okay I have a question

00:10:11 ◼   ► for you there braiding and I'm curious

00:10:14 ◼   ► the answer this question because I have

00:10:15 ◼   ► a feeling like maybe this is the thing

00:10:16 ◼   ► I'm going to run into more in London

00:10:18 ◼   ► when you talk about the human as

00:10:21 ◼   ► dispensing the metadata that is related

00:10:23 ◼   ► to the dog hmm how often does the human

00:10:27 ◼   ► tell you the dog's Instagram account I'm

00:10:34 ◼   ► about to be shamed here I can feel it

00:10:36 ◼   ► because I have been known to mention

00:10:38 ◼   ► Audrey's Instagram account right right

00:10:40 ◼   ► no how do you does have an Instagram

00:10:41 ◼   ► account I'm not trying to shame you I'm

00:10:43 ◼   ► just I guess because your dog does have

00:10:45 ◼   ► an Instagram account how many times has

00:10:47 ◼   ► somebody ever mentioned to you first

00:10:49 ◼   ► it's never come the other way no one's

00:10:51 ◼   ► ever told me that but I'm not in London

00:10:53 ◼   ► which is a bit more Posey you know I'm

00:10:55 ◼   ► in a less Posey place so it's a lot less

00:10:58 ◼   ► likely that a dog will have an Instagram

00:11:00 ◼   ► account where I live than where you live

00:11:01 ◼   ► so I'm the flash get

00:11:04 ◼   ► we can't and a Facebook page but it's

00:11:08 ◼   ► never come the other way for me and to

00:11:10 ◼   ► be fair you are like an Internet person

00:11:12 ◼   ► right who makes a living at this so yeah

00:11:14 ◼   ► for you the the additional marginal

00:11:17 ◼   ► effort to be running an Instagram

00:11:18 ◼   ► account for your dog is not as high as

00:11:20 ◼   ► it would be for somebody else who isn't

00:11:22 ◼   ► making a living on the internet all day

00:11:23 ◼   ► long doing this stuff anyway thank you I

00:11:26 ◼   ► legitimately do give you a total pass on

00:11:28 ◼   ► this adorable Audrey by the way terrible

00:11:31 ◼   ► anniversary don't check it out how many

00:11:35 ◼   ► followers does she have an Instagram on

00:11:37 ◼   ► Instagram that's a good question my wife

00:11:40 ◼   ► actually runs the Instagram account

00:11:42 ◼   ► noticing which annoys our no end because

00:11:45 ◼   ► people always leave comments saying nice

00:11:46 ◼   ► one brady i run the facebook page okay

00:11:53 ◼   ► that's the division of labor here

00:11:54 ◼   ► she has 5,000 followers okay so she's

00:11:59 ◼   ► not mega apparently it's it's 10,000

00:12:02 ◼   ► before people will even consider doing

00:12:04 ◼   ► brand deals with you so she's a long way

00:12:06 ◼   ► from even getting brand deals on

00:12:07 ◼   ► instagram she's not an influencer

00:12:09 ◼   ► because i I was recently with some

00:12:11 ◼   ► Instagram influencers and they told me

00:12:13 ◼   ► 10,000 is when you can start to be

00:12:15 ◼   ► considered an influencer on Instagram

00:12:17 ◼   ► let's put a pin in that and come back to

00:12:19 ◼   ► that because I want to return to this

00:12:20 ◼   ► idea of Instagram influencers but in the

00:12:22 ◼   ► meantime this is a thing that did catch

00:12:24 ◼   ► me completely off-guard because it

00:12:27 ◼   ► doesn't happen a ton but it happens

00:12:30 ◼   ► enough I feel like I'm getting a sense

00:12:33 ◼   ► in advance when I'm meeting a dog that

00:12:37 ◼   ► I'm going to be told an Instagram

00:12:39 ◼   ► account yeah I feel like there's a type

00:12:41 ◼   ► of person who has a dog Instagram

00:12:44 ◼   ► account thanks and you are far outside

00:12:48 ◼   ► of that realm but it does catch me off

00:12:50 ◼   ► guard because I'll meet a dog and the

00:12:52 ◼   ► owner will say something like oh yes hi

00:12:54 ◼   ► this is princess Anastasia

00:12:56 ◼   ► she has 9,000 followers on Instagram

00:12:58 ◼   ► like it's like item number two like like

00:13:00 ◼   ► they're canvassing for the dog in the

00:13:02 ◼   ► park I never really expected this like

00:13:05 ◼   ► in retrospect I guess it makes sense but

00:13:09 ◼   ► I find it funny that there is a a

00:13:13 ◼   ► significant enough like social media

00:13:16 ◼   ► presence for dogs

00:13:18 ◼   ► in the local park in London for some

00:13:20 ◼   ► reason I cannot quite get over that and

00:13:22 ◼   ► I'm not sure how to react to it

00:13:25 ◼   ► but without a doubt I think it is very

00:13:29 ◼   ► much biased towards fancier looking dogs

00:13:32 ◼   ► dogs that look fancy and fluffy they are

00:13:35 ◼   ► way more likely to have Instagram

00:13:38 ◼   ► accounts I have yet to meet a Rottweiler

00:13:40 ◼   ► with an Instagram account but I have met

00:13:43 ◼   ► a significant number of fluffy or

00:13:45 ◼   ► beautiful purebred dogs with Instagram

00:13:48 ◼   ► accounts well that's to be expected

00:13:49 ◼   ► isn't no idea I mean maybe they're just

00:13:52 ◼   ► the ones that are successful on

00:13:53 ◼   ► Instagram so that's why their owners are

00:13:54 ◼   ► out there plugging their dogs does mr.

00:13:58 ◼   ► chompers have an Instagram I don't know

00:13:59 ◼   ► if he has a real life Instagram I don't

00:14:01 ◼   ► think he does right I haven't asked it

00:14:03 ◼   ► could be a whole other aspect to mr.

00:14:04 ◼   ► Trump is life you don't know about well

00:14:06 ◼   ► I mean but there are many aspects to mr.

00:14:07 ◼   ► chompers life that I don't know about

00:14:09 ◼   ► mr. chompers life I wonder from his

00:14:10 ◼   ► perspective what is it like because he

00:14:13 ◼   ► spends I'm on holiday and I was thinking

00:14:18 ◼   ► what are orginially doing right now what

00:14:23 ◼   ► do I think of their holiday home how do

00:14:26 ◼   ► they see things how do they think I

00:14:28 ◼   ► always wonder how dogs think I would pay

00:14:31 ◼   ► a considerable amount of money just to

00:14:33 ◼   ► be able to read my dog's minds I just

00:14:36 ◼   ► want to know what they think drives me

00:14:38 ◼   ► crazy that I'll never know and I know

00:14:40 ◼   ► they're animals and I know animals are

00:14:42 ◼   ► animals and they don't think like us but

00:14:44 ◼   ► I just wish I knew more about their

00:14:46 ◼   ► brains

00:14:46 ◼   ► okay people say that thing right oh it's

00:14:48 ◼   ► an animal's an animal and like don't

00:14:50 ◼   ► anthropomorphize the animals and it's

00:14:52 ◼   ► like I get where you're coming from

00:14:53 ◼   ► but I really do think that dogs are an

00:14:58 ◼   ► exception to this like there is no

00:14:59 ◼   ► species that has co-evolved with humans

00:15:02 ◼   ► over a longer period of time that has

00:15:05 ◼   ► also Co evolved in a way that is

00:15:08 ◼   ► beneficial to the survival of both of

00:15:10 ◼   ► the species like I think if any creature

00:15:12 ◼   ► is able to think like humans like dogs

00:15:15 ◼   ► have to be at the top of that list aside

00:15:17 ◼   ► from the things that are they basically

00:15:18 ◼   ► like genetically us hmm so I'm perfectly

00:15:21 ◼   ► fine with anthropomorphizing the dog and

00:15:22 ◼   ► thinking that the dog has things in its

00:15:26 ◼   ► head that we could recognize as feelings

00:15:29 ◼   ► or emotional states I hope

00:15:32 ◼   ► true like a thing that has happened with

00:15:33 ◼   ► mr. chompers is that he's gotten it stop

00:15:36 ◼   ► laughing baby I don't know what you mean

00:15:42 ◼   ► I'm that guy I'm like you

00:15:44 ◼   ► we're having a podcast here we need to

00:15:45 ◼   ► talk about things and I want to talk

00:15:47 ◼   ► about mr. chompers I'm really

00:15:48 ◼   ► comfortable in that seat because I kept

00:15:50 ◼   ► talking about mr. chomp reserved all day

00:15:52 ◼   ► long I I feels like you already have

00:15:56 ◼   ► that hurts Brady that hurts real deep

00:16:00 ◼   ► mr. chompers Audrey playdate we do we do

00:16:04 ◼   ► have to organize that if you actually

00:16:06 ◼   ► have people taking planes to visit me

00:16:09 ◼   ► and they're making sure that they're

00:16:10 ◼   ► scheduling it on mr. chompers days

00:16:11 ◼   ► because people wanted mr. chopper

00:16:14 ◼   ► they're like oh it's great to come and

00:16:16 ◼   ► see you but I want to make sure I'm

00:16:17 ◼   ► there on a choppers day I don't want to

00:16:18 ◼   ► come on an on chompers day that's no

00:16:20 ◼   ► good you're clearly a more sociable

00:16:22 ◼   ► creature when mr. chompers is involved

00:16:24 ◼   ► we've established that already you're

00:16:25 ◼   ► far more chatty and personable again

00:16:27 ◼   ► it's the positive mood buffs from dog

00:16:29 ◼   ► that's what's having I think it's for

00:16:31 ◼   ► love yeah it's the love who doesn't know

00:16:33 ◼   ► everybody loves doggies except monitors

00:16:35 ◼   ► we've established before monitors don't

00:16:38 ◼   ► love dogs I think even monsters love

00:16:39 ◼   ► dogs a little bit Hitler had a dog I'm

00:16:41 ◼   ► sure he loved that dog you know hey Dad

00:16:43 ◼   ► what was a cone was called was it called

00:16:44 ◼   ► Susie his dog it had some funny name I

00:16:46 ◼   ► think it was blondie blondie that's it I

00:16:49 ◼   ► feel like this is like a pub trivia

00:16:50 ◼   ► question I think it was boy yeah I don't

00:16:52 ◼   ► know okay in my head I'm just assuming

00:16:54 ◼   ► it was the German Shepherd I have no

00:16:56 ◼   ► idea you know it might have been like a

00:16:58 ◼   ► yorkie poo I don't know if I was existed

00:16:59 ◼   ► at the time but I think he'll there

00:17:01 ◼   ► probably had a meaner looking dog blondi

00:17:02 ◼   ► HESA has their own Wikipedia page oh is

00:17:06 ◼   ► it blondie was I right about that you

00:17:07 ◼   ► were right but just blondie with an eye

00:17:09 ◼   ► on the end does it like it was a German

00:17:11 ◼   ► Shepherd it was a German Shepherd

00:17:12 ◼   ► blondie with an eye oh god that's

00:17:14 ◼   ► embarrassing as a puppy Hitler was

00:17:20 ◼   ► reportedly very fond of blondie keeping

00:17:22 ◼   ► her by his side and allowing her to

00:17:24 ◼   ► sleep in his bed in the bunker I say I

00:17:27 ◼   ► don't agree with that

00:17:28 ◼   ► I don't agree with that behavior he

00:17:29 ◼   ► shouldn't let the dog in your bed yeah

00:17:32 ◼   ► oh that's the other thing like that I

00:17:33 ◼   ► wanted to mention here which I find

00:17:36 ◼   ► myself doing this thing which is

00:17:39 ◼   ► becoming very judgmental of the way

00:17:43 ◼   ► other people interact with the dogs

00:17:45 ◼   ► right yeah it's like 100% this parental

00:17:52 ◼   ► kind of thing of like oh I don't think

00:17:54 ◼   ► you've you've raised your dog very well

00:17:56 ◼   ► or like oh you think you're a dog person

00:17:59 ◼   ► but you're not really a dog person

00:18:01 ◼   ► you don't know how I can just I can see

00:18:02 ◼   ► what you and your wife are like you're

00:18:04 ◼   ► these people who think they're like the

00:18:05 ◼   ► authority on like dog rearing and like

00:18:09 ◼   ► it's your way or the highway

00:18:10 ◼   ► now I don't agree with that at all like

00:18:12 ◼   ► that like there are many different ways

00:18:14 ◼   ► to do it but I just think there's like

00:18:16 ◼   ► I'll give an example it's just that all

00:18:18 ◼   ► the other wise are wrong I'm gonna back

00:18:22 ◼   ► this up right I'm gonna bring up the

00:18:23 ◼   ► thing which is like the slightly

00:18:25 ◼   ► controversial thing which is against

00:18:26 ◼   ► Cesar Millan this is the Tavey dog

00:18:28 ◼   ► training guy for people who yeah yes I

00:18:30 ◼   ► he's a TV dog training guy yeah now when

00:18:33 ◼   ► you say like it's our way or it's

00:18:35 ◼   ► nothing like I think I really disagree

00:18:37 ◼   ► with that because mm-hmm

00:18:40 ◼   ► like what we haven't done with mr.

00:18:43 ◼   ► chompers hardly at all as things like

00:18:45 ◼   ► tricks right teaching him to sit

00:18:48 ◼   ► teaching him to lay down doing that kind

00:18:50 ◼   ► of stuff right that's a very particular

00:18:52 ◼   ► kind of training that he's still a

00:18:54 ◼   ► little young for anyway and like there

00:18:57 ◼   ► are a bunch of different ways that you

00:18:58 ◼   ► can try to do that they're all based off

00:19:00 ◼   ► a positive reinforcement but like there

00:19:01 ◼   ► are very many ways that you can do stuff

00:19:03 ◼   ► when I'm talking about like a judgmental

00:19:05 ◼   ► thing what I mean is and what I think is

00:19:09 ◼   ► like the Cesar Millan kind of

00:19:12 ◼   ► controversy is this idea about like what

00:19:15 ◼   ► is your emotional state when you're

00:19:17 ◼   ► interacting with a dog I think that's

00:19:20 ◼   ► the thing that he tries to convey with

00:19:24 ◼   ► his methods of dogs like he's never

00:19:25 ◼   ► really talking about how to get your dog

00:19:28 ◼   ► to roll over right or how to do specific

00:19:31 ◼   ► behaviors he's talking about like this

00:19:32 ◼   ► meta thing about how do you interact

00:19:34 ◼   ► with the dog and I think there's just a

00:19:37 ◼   ► really really key skill that some people

00:19:41 ◼   ► have and some people don't I'll give you

00:19:42 ◼   ► an example like what am i judgemental

00:19:44 ◼   ► loud mr. chompers was out in the park

00:19:47 ◼   ► and this little kid came up to mr.

00:19:51 ◼   ► chompers this adorable tiny tot she came

00:19:54 ◼   ► up to mr. chompers and she wanted to

00:19:56 ◼   ► interact with him and we said okay right

00:19:57 ◼   ► we're socializing him

00:19:59 ◼   ► mm-hm and she was great because she

00:20:01 ◼   ► looked at us she looked at us the owners

00:20:03 ◼   ► from her perspective of the dog and said

00:20:05 ◼   ► is he a biting dog right like yeah she's

00:20:08 ◼   ► like oh kid I love you already right you

00:20:11 ◼   ► have the concepts that some little dogs

00:20:13 ◼   ► are gonna be biting dogs right like yeah

00:20:15 ◼   ► you're so far ahead and so I'm looking

00:20:18 ◼   ► at this kid in like okay great I like

00:20:20 ◼   ► you already kid and said oh yeah so go

00:20:22 ◼   ► ahead you can interact with mr. chompers

00:20:24 ◼   ► and I was also looking at her because

00:20:25 ◼   ► she was covered head-to-toe in an

00:20:30 ◼   ► adorable kid puffy snow outfit that

00:20:33 ◼   ► obstructed her movement like she had

00:20:35 ◼   ► immunity to accidental piercing damage

00:20:36 ◼   ► like there is no way that even if mr.

00:20:38 ◼   ► chompers were to bite that he would do

00:20:40 ◼   ► any damage to this kid and he's gotten a

00:20:42 ◼   ► million times better about this so he

00:20:44 ◼   ► doesn't bite very much at all and so

00:20:46 ◼   ► like mr. chompers in this little kid

00:20:48 ◼   ► they had a nice little interaction right

00:20:50 ◼   ► she was squealing with joy and playing

00:20:52 ◼   ► around like oh great this is perfect

00:20:53 ◼   ► yeah and then we walk on not five

00:20:55 ◼   ► minutes later we run into a guy who's

00:20:58 ◼   ► like oh can i interact with mr. chompers

00:20:59 ◼   ► and he does the thing which some people

00:21:03 ◼   ► who own dogs do the thing where when

00:21:05 ◼   ► they interact with the dog

00:21:07 ◼   ► they're like riling the dog up there's

00:21:10 ◼   ► like a play style where you're making

00:21:14 ◼   ► the dog more excited which then brings

00:21:16 ◼   ► out bad behaviors in the dog alright and

00:21:19 ◼   ► so this guy was wearing gloves and he

00:21:21 ◼   ► immediately starts like kind of

00:21:22 ◼   ► roughhousing with mr. chompers head and

00:21:24 ◼   ► so I can see like mr. chompers is

00:21:26 ◼   ► getting excited and then mr. chompers

00:21:28 ◼   ► grabs on to the glove and the guy starts

00:21:30 ◼   ► playing like a fun tug-of-war game now

00:21:32 ◼   ► with mr. chompers and it's like her and

00:21:34 ◼   ► then he starts growling it's like oh no

00:21:35 ◼   ► dude like that's the thing that I mean

00:21:37 ◼   ► that I'm judgmental about is like this

00:21:39 ◼   ► very clear thing about bringing the

00:21:41 ◼   ► energy up or bringing the energy down

00:21:44 ◼   ► and it's like hey buddy we met like a

00:21:46 ◼   ► two and a half year old kid who was a

00:21:48 ◼   ► million times better with dogs than you

00:21:49 ◼   ► two seconds ago like you just don't know

00:21:52 ◼   ► how to do it and then sure enough he's

00:21:53 ◼   ► talking about like he owns a dog and his

00:21:55 ◼   ► dog is a total terror and all the

00:21:56 ◼   ► begging I was like of course your dog's

00:21:57 ◼   ► a total terror like if you're

00:21:59 ◼   ► interacting with this dog this way like

00:22:00 ◼   ► you must be doing this with your dog at

00:22:02 ◼   ► home so like you're the fault here not

00:22:04 ◼   ► the dog I'm basically making like a

00:22:05 ◼   ► parental complaint about people who

00:22:07 ◼   ► don't know how to handle dogs but like

00:22:10 ◼   ► that's a very very separate thing from

00:22:12 ◼   ► how do you have a show when

00:22:13 ◼   ► dog who can do a bunch of great tricks

00:22:15 ◼   ► like on command like that's not the

00:22:16 ◼   ► skill that I'm talking about I'm just

00:22:18 ◼   ► talking about a more general skill that

00:22:21 ◼   ► I think is super important but that I

00:22:23 ◼   ► can see a bunch of people who have dogs

00:22:26 ◼   ► they just don't think about like they

00:22:28 ◼   ► amp up dogs when they don't mean to

00:22:30 ◼   ► anyway this is me being a big mr.

00:22:32 ◼   ► chompers parents do you know how blondie

00:22:35 ◼   ► died I have no idea how blondie died

00:22:37 ◼   ► they tested a cyanide capsule that

00:22:41 ◼   ► Hitler thought might not work properly

00:22:42 ◼   ► on the dog so they gave a cyanide

00:22:45 ◼   ► capsule to the dog and killed it of

00:22:47 ◼   ► poisoning and then apparently Hitler

00:22:49 ◼   ► became inconsolable after he ordered the

00:22:52 ◼   ► dog be given the cyanide pill well I

00:22:54 ◼   ► don't think Hitler was in a in a proper

00:22:57 ◼   ► state of mind I didn't think you would

00:22:58 ◼   ► have approved of Hitler's don't rearing

00:23:01 ◼   ► skills they're giving sign-out pills to

00:23:03 ◼   ► the dog no two thumbs down two thumbs

00:23:05 ◼   ► down to Hitler dog raising skill that's

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00:25:36 ◼   ► bit of feedback from previous episodes

00:25:39 ◼   ► there's a few little tidbits to deal

00:25:40 ◼   ► with can I first just say let me do this

00:25:43 ◼   ► one first because this is something

00:25:44 ◼   ► that's been a long time in the making

00:25:46 ◼   ► hello Internet medals of honor mmm now

00:25:50 ◼   ► exist whoo

00:25:52 ◼   ► they have been struck there's a few of

00:25:54 ◼   ► them here in my office there's a few

00:25:56 ◼   ► more in the my famous storage unit

00:25:58 ◼   ► mm-hmm the first one or two are about to

00:26:01 ◼   ► be engraved news will follow in due

00:26:04 ◼   ► course but I just want people to know

00:26:06 ◼   ► because a few people including my

00:26:07 ◼   ► co-host I think have been a bit

00:26:10 ◼   ► skeptical about whether I'd get them

00:26:11 ◼   ► made now they have been made I've never

00:26:14 ◼   ► expressed skepticism about this pretty

00:26:15 ◼   ► well they're there they're done I posted

00:26:18 ◼   ► a picture to our patreon quite a while

00:26:21 ◼   ► ago so patrons probably have already

00:26:24 ◼   ► seen a picture of the medal but we'll

00:26:26 ◼   ► share some more pictures soon in due

00:26:27 ◼   ► course but I just wanted it to be out

00:26:28 ◼   ► there I want people to know you want to

00:26:30 ◼   ► get it on the register this is a real

00:26:31 ◼   ► thing I won on the record but I don't

00:26:33 ◼   ► want people to try and win them these

00:26:36 ◼   ► things are just given out as they're

00:26:38 ◼   ► given and don't try and do anything

00:26:40 ◼   ► stupid

00:26:40 ◼   ► to win one I don't want like someone you

00:26:43 ◼   ► know standing on top of the Burj Khalifa

00:26:45 ◼   ► on one leg doing a base jump with a

00:26:47 ◼   ► Hello Internet flag and they attempt to

00:26:49 ◼   ► win one and we're not going to reward

00:26:51 ◼   ► stupidity or rash activities

00:26:53 ◼   ► he's an organic thing I feel like it's a

00:26:56 ◼   ► bit of a mixed message though to have

00:26:57 ◼   ► them exist

00:26:58 ◼   ► I agree great it is a mixed message but

00:27:00 ◼   ► one thing I've found over the course of

00:27:02 ◼   ► watching Tim egde unfold right is that

00:27:05 ◼   ► wonderful things happen every week that

00:27:09 ◼   ► warms our hearts mm-hmm but I also think

00:27:11 ◼   ► sometimes people like don't have like a

00:27:14 ◼   ► filter hmm

00:27:15 ◼   ► like they don't step outside themselves

00:27:17 ◼   ► and think should I even be doing this

00:27:19 ◼   ► like is this like a bad thing or a

00:27:21 ◼   ► creepy thing or inappropriate I think

00:27:24 ◼   ► people sometimes get a bit lost in the

00:27:26 ◼   ► moment and don't step outside themselves

00:27:28 ◼   ► and think about what they're doing and I

00:27:30 ◼   ► don't move the existence of medals to

00:27:34 ◼   ► exacerbate this problem it's interesting

00:27:36 ◼   ► though because it hadn't really crossed

00:27:38 ◼   ► my mind until this moment but I mean

00:27:40 ◼   ► this there's nothing just with our show

00:27:42 ◼   ► but it's it's a thing that happens

00:27:43 ◼   ► anytime a group starts to form some

00:27:45 ◼   ► identity mm-hmm is a question like what

00:27:48 ◼   ► are the actions that are acceptable

00:27:49 ◼   ► within that identity and yeah you're

00:27:52 ◼   ► right I think there are people who can

00:27:53 ◼   ► sometimes think they're doing something

00:27:56 ◼   ► that's interesting and it's like oh no

00:27:58 ◼   ► that's a terrible idea man but I don't

00:28:00 ◼   ► think there's any effective way really

00:28:02 ◼   ► to express that ahead of time yeah I

00:28:05 ◼   ► guess yeah yeah other than to say

00:28:08 ◼   ► something that is pointless and that is

00:28:09 ◼   ► sometimes stop think about what you're

00:28:11 ◼   ► doing right and think about what this

00:28:13 ◼   ► would look like to other people yeah oh

00:28:15 ◼   ► isn't that kind of stuff the problem is

00:28:16 ◼   ► the people who would stop and think

00:28:18 ◼   ► about what does this look like from the

00:28:19 ◼   ► outside are not the people who would do

00:28:22 ◼   ► those things right yeah it's like a

00:28:23 ◼   ► dunning-kruger effect for actions in

00:28:25 ◼   ► this way like of course the people who

00:28:28 ◼   ► do things that are unacceptable or not

00:28:30 ◼   ► the people who wonder if an activity is

00:28:32 ◼   ► acceptable yeah but I guess so what

00:28:35 ◼   ► you're saying here really is there is

00:28:36 ◼   ► not going to be an escalating hierarchy

00:28:39 ◼   ► of spectacle that these medals would be

00:28:43 ◼   ► awarded for it's more yeah more like

00:28:46 ◼   ► whimsy and good feeling yeah we're going

00:28:49 ◼   ► for here then not something that should

00:28:51 ◼   ► be sought and there's not like a bar

00:28:53 ◼   ► that you must exceed to

00:28:54 ◼   ► one right in fact doing too much will

00:28:56 ◼   ► probably exclude you from ever receiving

00:28:59 ◼   ► one cuz it will make me like you'll just

00:29:01 ◼   ► freak me out a bit that is a big hard to

00:29:04 ◼   ► express is the like well do too much it

00:29:06 ◼   ► becomes really uncomfortable like nope

00:29:09 ◼   ► nope I can't reward this action

00:29:12 ◼   ► nah anyway I'm very glad that they're in

00:29:16 ◼   ► existence and yeah we'll be updating the

00:29:19 ◼   ► audience as time goes on yeah I have a

00:29:23 ◼   ► quick link for you Brady mm-hmm which is

00:29:27 ◼   ► going under the heading in my mind of

00:29:29 ◼   ► the expansion of no fun zones the head

00:29:33 ◼   ► light on this baby c-- news article

00:29:35 ◼   ► you've sent me says Darby cordoned off

00:29:37 ◼   ► Christmas tree and embarrassment this

00:29:40 ◼   ► excites me a bit because this is from

00:29:42 ◼   ► the area of England that I used to cover

00:29:44 ◼   ► when I worked at the BBC so I could have

00:29:46 ◼   ► been the person writing this article

00:29:47 ◼   ► back in the day oh yeah it could have

00:29:49 ◼   ► been your byline on this article well

00:29:50 ◼   ► there is no byline or not but yeah I

00:29:52 ◼   ► could have hoped that maybe a machine

00:29:53 ◼   ► wrote it I just want to put this in in

00:29:55 ◼   ► the show notes because someone passes

00:29:57 ◼   ► along to me and it's picture of this

00:30:01 ◼   ► Christmas tree that is like the saddest

00:30:04 ◼   ► looking Christmas tree in the world not

00:30:06 ◼   ► because that Christmas tree isn't

00:30:07 ◼   ► magnificent but because as the headline

00:30:10 ◼   ► says it's cordoned off by two concentric

00:30:14 ◼   ► rings of gates to keep people away from

00:30:18 ◼   ► the Christmas tree out of concerns about

00:30:20 ◼   ► safety in case of foes on someone else

00:30:22 ◼   ► yeah in case it falls at someone right

00:30:24 ◼   ► and the official statement from the

00:30:26 ◼   ► council is that the barriers are there

00:30:28 ◼   ► to enable people to view the tree at a

00:30:31 ◼   ► safe distance the tray looks like it's

00:30:34 ◼   ► in prison who what the meeting was like

00:30:37 ◼   ► we're gonna have some Christmas cheer

00:30:38 ◼   ► okay but we're gonna we need to have

00:30:40 ◼   ► some barriers around the tree for

00:30:42 ◼   ► imagined safety and then on top of that

00:30:45 ◼   ► our statement is going to be about how

00:30:47 ◼   ► the barriers enable people to view the

00:30:50 ◼   ► tree at a safe distance like without the

00:30:52 ◼   ► barriers people being able to view the

00:30:55 ◼   ► tree at a safe distance wouldn't it be

00:30:57 ◼   ► possible that the barriers are simply

00:30:58 ◼   ► enabling this thing to occur it's just

00:31:01 ◼   ► awful and it just made me sad and I

00:31:03 ◼   ► think it's an example of a no-fun zone

00:31:05 ◼   ► elsewhere in the world it's like

00:31:08 ◼   ► take a place and make sure like Oh

00:31:10 ◼   ► Christmas fun in the town center no

00:31:12 ◼   ► there's no fun that's going to happen

00:31:13 ◼   ► here you're gonna view a tree at an

00:31:15 ◼   ► appropriate distance and you're gonna

00:31:17 ◼   ► like it

00:31:18 ◼   ► it's pretty terrible it looks pretty

00:31:20 ◼   ► terrible it's not a good look

00:31:22 ◼   ► yeah it's very sad so no fun zones

00:31:25 ◼   ► spreading across the world it's funny

00:31:27 ◼   ► cuz I think of you sometimes as a person

00:31:29 ◼   ► who would like like safety you know

00:31:31 ◼   ► you're like a cautious guy I know what

00:31:33 ◼   ► you're saying and it's like there was a

00:31:35 ◼   ► science fiction series called Ringworld

00:31:38 ◼   ► and had an alien species called the I

00:31:40 ◼   ► think was Pearson's puppeteers but the

00:31:42 ◼   ► recurring thing about these aliens which

00:31:45 ◼   ► I just loved was the whole species

00:31:47 ◼   ► evolved from herd animals from prey

00:31:49 ◼   ► animals and so they were obsessed with

00:31:51 ◼   ► safety and the interiors of all their

00:31:53 ◼   ► spaceships had no sharp corners right

00:31:55 ◼   ► like basically in case they were falling

00:31:57 ◼   ► like they wanted to make sure they fell

00:31:58 ◼   ► on a safe rounded corner and it's like I

00:32:01 ◼   ► had a lot of sympathy for those aliens

00:32:03 ◼   ► like yeah you know why not be safe the

00:32:05 ◼   ► thing that bothers me is what I view

00:32:07 ◼   ► this as is like a kind of fake safety

00:32:10 ◼   ► I'm all in favor of more safety right

00:32:12 ◼   ► the sooner we can get humans off the

00:32:14 ◼   ► road that's great the sooner we can stop

00:32:16 ◼   ► people throwing coins into airplanes

00:32:18 ◼   ► that's even better

00:32:19 ◼   ► I'm all for real safety but this kind of

00:32:22 ◼   ► like keep people away from a Christmas

00:32:25 ◼   ► tree safety is a thing that drives me

00:32:27 ◼   ► crazy

00:32:28 ◼   ► that's like security theater at the

00:32:29 ◼   ► airport it's no real benefit and I think

00:32:33 ◼   ► it causes real harm and it causes real

00:32:35 ◼   ► harm in the name of a thing that I do

00:32:38 ◼   ► want more of so I think that's why I

00:32:40 ◼   ► like it this stuff hits me particularly

00:32:42 ◼   ► hard and in a very frustrating way it's

00:32:45 ◼   ► giving safety a bad name it is Brady it

00:32:47 ◼   ► is giving safety a bad name that's

00:32:49 ◼   ► exactly right

00:32:49 ◼   ► having just dissed the Tim's a minute

00:32:52 ◼   ► ago can I now take a moment to thank

00:32:55 ◼   ► them immensely for taking up the call to

00:32:59 ◼   ► arms from the last episode and

00:33:01 ◼   ► subscribing to my periodic videos

00:33:03 ◼   ► YouTube channel so that we could reach a

00:33:05 ◼   ► million subscribers before Sir Martin's

00:33:08 ◼   ► birthday congratulations on that well

00:33:11 ◼   ► congratulations to the Tim's who helped

00:33:13 ◼   ► push us over the top

00:33:14 ◼   ► really appreciate it and we did get

00:33:15 ◼   ► there before the professor's birthday so

00:33:17 ◼   ► that was that made him really happy I

00:33:19 ◼   ► just wanted to also point out

00:33:22 ◼   ► you may have seen if you follow like you

00:33:24 ◼   ► know twittery stuff and all that I

00:33:26 ◼   ► posted a picture of the professor

00:33:28 ◼   ► holding a piece of paper saying you know

00:33:31 ◼   ► periodic table of videos 1 million

00:33:33 ◼   ► thanks Timms and he's like you know he

00:33:35 ◼   ► printed it out and he's holding it up in

00:33:37 ◼   ► one of those weird pictures that people

00:33:38 ◼   ► post where they like you know hold a

00:33:40 ◼   ► message to prove that the message is

00:33:42 ◼   ► from them right yeah

00:33:43 ◼   ► can I just say I had absolutely nothing

00:33:45 ◼   ► to do with this I didn't know he was

00:33:48 ◼   ► doing it I didn't ask him to do it he

00:33:49 ◼   ► just emailed me and said I look I made

00:33:51 ◼   ► this picture so you know that was truly

00:33:53 ◼   ► from his heart mm-hmm but the

00:33:55 ◼   ► interesting thing to me was how did he

00:33:56 ◼   ► know like he saw the spike in

00:33:59 ◼   ► subscribers and I said oh I mentioned it

00:34:01 ◼   ► on the podcast and he was like oh that's

00:34:03 ◼   ► great thank you but how did he know what

00:34:05 ◼   ► Tim's were so I spoke to him on the

00:34:08 ◼   ► phone today and he told me that he

00:34:10 ◼   ► received a birthday card from someone I

00:34:12 ◼   ► can't remember the person's name and

00:34:14 ◼   ► they said dear professor Pepe birthday

00:34:16 ◼   ► from whatever the person's name was and

00:34:19 ◼   ► then they put in brackets I'm a Tim and

00:34:23 ◼   ► then they wrote a few sentences

00:34:25 ◼   ► underneath explaining what a Tim was on

00:34:28 ◼   ► his birthday cut you know but listen to

00:34:30 ◼   ► you know Tim's of what we call people

00:34:31 ◼   ► who listen to the podcast and things

00:34:33 ◼   ► like that that's a very thorough Tim

00:34:34 ◼   ► message it was and that's how the

00:34:36 ◼   ► professor knew what Tim was and what

00:34:38 ◼   ► gave him the idea to make me slinky

00:34:40 ◼   ► picture

00:34:40 ◼   ► Martin then asked me why are they called

00:34:42 ◼   ► Tim's I find that one of the more

00:34:45 ◼   ► difficult questions to answer about my

00:34:47 ◼   ► work why people who's like I know the

00:34:50 ◼   ► answer but it's just really hard to

00:34:52 ◼   ► explain in a pithy way that makes sense

00:34:55 ◼   ► there's no pithy way about it yeah I

00:34:57 ◼   ► think it's one of my favorite examples

00:35:01 ◼   ► of an Internet community selecting in

00:35:04 ◼   ► its own name like this is a thing that

00:35:07 ◼   ► very much happened on its own and a

00:35:11 ◼   ► little bit of pulling back the curtain

00:35:13 ◼   ► here was when this first started I was

00:35:17 ◼   ► not a fan of the audience having a

00:35:21 ◼   ► particular name I put on record before

00:35:23 ◼   ► like I don't really necessarily like the

00:35:25 ◼   ► ideas of Internet communities and and

00:35:27 ◼   ► the names like this is a thing that I

00:35:29 ◼   ► once tried to do in my youtube channel

00:35:31 ◼   ► and then immediately regret it and never

00:35:32 ◼   ► referenced again and so there's a period

00:35:35 ◼   ► of time and the

00:35:36 ◼   ► show where I was really trying to talk

00:35:38 ◼   ► around the concept of Tim's or not

00:35:41 ◼   ► encouraged this at all hmm but it became

00:35:43 ◼   ► so clear that this is a thing that the

00:35:45 ◼   ► community was just embracing and loving

00:35:47 ◼   ► it eventually completely changed my mind

00:35:50 ◼   ► on it because like this is so clearly

00:35:51 ◼   ► something that everybody loves and it's

00:35:54 ◼   ► fun like I'm just I'm changing my mind

00:35:56 ◼   ► on this and I'm going along with it but

00:35:58 ◼   ► it's like it is really a thing that took

00:36:00 ◼   ► off on its own especially at the

00:36:02 ◼   ► beginning zero encouragement on my part

00:36:04 ◼   ► the community did pick this for

00:36:06 ◼   ► themselves I agree

00:36:08 ◼   ► Bassam congratulations to periodic

00:36:12 ◼   ► videos for reaching 1 million what are

00:36:14 ◼   ► you gonna do with yet another golden

00:36:16 ◼   ► play button that's a good question

00:36:19 ◼   ► where is it going I mean my thinking was

00:36:21 ◼   ► I was always going to give it to the

00:36:23 ◼   ► chemistry department at the University

00:36:25 ◼   ► of Nottingham but I can't like the idea

00:36:27 ◼   ► of having one cuz I haven't got my

00:36:28 ◼   ► number fire one you don't have any of

00:36:31 ◼   ► the gold ones in your house this is only

00:36:33 ◼   ► my second go I've got a boatload of

00:36:35 ◼   ► silver I don't have a boatload of

00:36:37 ◼   ► Silver's but in my head I still feel

00:36:39 ◼   ► like you have if not a boatload a bucket

00:36:41 ◼   ► load of gold play buttons this is I need

00:36:43 ◼   ► a second computer file should get one

00:36:46 ◼   ► same okay so yeah you're you quickly are

00:36:48 ◼   ► approaching a bucket load of gold play

00:36:50 ◼   ► buttons and I wouldn't say that but

00:36:52 ◼   ► anyway I don't know I'll see what

00:36:54 ◼   ► happens I'll see what happens

00:36:55 ◼   ► did I tell you about my trade sixty

00:36:58 ◼   ► symbols one like a medal from the

00:37:00 ◼   ► Institute of Physics and it was a really

00:37:02 ◼   ► cool medal and like we want it as a

00:37:04 ◼   ► group and after the midnight when we got

00:37:07 ◼   ► given the medal it was just taken home

00:37:08 ◼   ► by someone at the University and I don't

00:37:12 ◼   ► know I just

00:37:13 ◼   ► I'd never won anything for physics and I

00:37:14 ◼   ► really liked the medal and I quite liked

00:37:16 ◼   ► the idea of having it in my office

00:37:17 ◼   ► mm-hmm but you know I didn't have any

00:37:20 ◼   ► more right to say I should have in my

00:37:21 ◼   ► office than they did but what I did have

00:37:24 ◼   ► was the sixty symbols silver button

00:37:26 ◼   ► mm-hmm so I was able to go into the

00:37:28 ◼   ► University a few weeks later with the

00:37:30 ◼   ► silver button and like try and come up

00:37:32 ◼   ► with a trade and it was really like

00:37:34 ◼   ► those complicated baseball trades where

00:37:35 ◼   ► you trade two players and an amount of

00:37:37 ◼   ► money and all this sort of stuff like we

00:37:38 ◼   ► were coming up with the trade like you

00:37:40 ◼   ► can have the silver button and I'll have

00:37:42 ◼   ► the medal but you can have the

00:37:43 ◼   ► certificate that came with the medal if

00:37:45 ◼   ► we were coming up with this whole

00:37:46 ◼   ► elaborate deal over who got what just

00:37:48 ◼   ► one of this metal right you're trying to

00:37:50 ◼   ► Moneyball your way to the getting this

00:37:52 ◼   ► metal in your in your office that's

00:37:53 ◼   ► what's happening but it was a rude like

00:37:55 ◼   ► it was a real negotiation and the

00:37:56 ◼   ► professor I was negotiating with said oh

00:37:58 ◼   ► I don't think I can make this decision

00:38:00 ◼   ► on my own and called in like another

00:38:02 ◼   ► professor and like there was like this

00:38:04 ◼   ► big conversation it was quite fun

00:38:05 ◼   ► actually did did you get it in the end

00:38:07 ◼   ► this is in your office right now I did

00:38:09 ◼   ► get the middle like like it's still

00:38:10 ◼   ► joint custody like everything is but I'm

00:38:13 ◼   ► the one who gets to look at it and I

00:38:14 ◼   ► don't look at it quite like it it's a

00:38:16 ◼   ► nice medal it's that Kelvin medal

00:38:18 ◼   ► I'll right right of course yeah that's

00:38:20 ◼   ► right that's right all the medals in

00:38:22 ◼   ► Brady's office if you make stuff like

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00:40:36 ◼   ► notes

00:40:36 ◼   ► our thanks to them for supporting this

00:40:38 ◼   ► podcast so you're back from Australia

00:40:42 ◼   ► Brady just a couple days ago right you I

00:40:44 ◼   ► am just recently back yes I won't win

00:40:47 ◼   ► over for various reasons to do with work

00:40:49 ◼   ► and to do with family and friends mm-hmm

00:40:52 ◼   ► but the main reason and the main thing I

00:40:54 ◼   ► was going over for the main impetus was

00:40:56 ◼   ► because I wanted to watch the Ashes Test

00:40:58 ◼   ► match between Australia and England at

00:41:00 ◼   ► the Adelaide Oval which I was very

00:41:03 ◼   ► excited about question I'm going to do

00:41:05 ◼   ► this right from the start only one

00:41:06 ◼   ► question yeah I know the ashes the ashes

00:41:10 ◼   ► of the burnt up wicked yeah that the two

00:41:13 ◼   ► countries trade back and forth that the

00:41:15 ◼   ► yep whoever wins they hold on to the

00:41:17 ◼   ► ashes there's a small little urn with

00:41:19 ◼   ► the ashes of a piece of cricket

00:41:20 ◼   ► equipment from back in the day yes

00:41:23 ◼   ► that's correct

00:41:23 ◼   ► right when you say Test match though

00:41:26 ◼   ► that makes it sound like it's not the

00:41:30 ◼   ► actual matches for the ashes it's a

00:41:33 ◼   ► preparation for the ashes no that's not

00:41:37 ◼   ► what it means

00:41:37 ◼   ► okay what is like the Test match just

00:41:39 ◼   ► through me that sounds like it's a test

00:41:42 ◼   ► yeah in my head reads it like the

00:41:44 ◼   ► semi-finals for the ashes like I'm just

00:41:46 ◼   ► a bit confused by what that word by but

00:41:48 ◼   ► I think test in this context you should

00:41:50 ◼   ► think of as a test of your skill okay a

00:41:54 ◼   ► test of how good you are there are

00:41:55 ◼   ► different forms of cricket that can be

00:41:58 ◼   ► played that have different durations and

00:42:00 ◼   ► have slightly different roles but the

00:42:02 ◼   ► pinnacle of the game the ultimate form

00:42:04 ◼   ► of cricket is considered this five day

00:42:07 ◼   ► game which is called a test match okay

00:42:09 ◼   ► and a contest for the ashes they play

00:42:12 ◼   ► five consecutive Test matches in two

00:42:15 ◼   ► in cities and whoever wins the most of

00:42:18 ◼   ► those test matches will be the winner

00:42:20 ◼   ► so as we speak now which will be out of

00:42:23 ◼   ► date by the time this is published the

00:42:24 ◼   ► first two test matches were won by

00:42:27 ◼   ► Australia as Australia is leading the

00:42:29 ◼   ► series to nil if they win the third one

00:42:31 ◼   ► does it just stop because they get three

00:42:33 ◼   ► out of five no they will have won the

00:42:35 ◼   ► series but they will continue playing

00:42:37 ◼   ► the other two Test matches Test matches

00:42:39 ◼   ► are so important and significant that

00:42:43 ◼   ► the fact that they're kind of dead

00:42:45 ◼   ► rubbers doesn't mean you wouldn't play

00:42:46 ◼   ► them there's still a lot of kudos and a

00:42:48 ◼   ► lot of interest it's not like baseball

00:42:50 ◼   ► like at the World Series where they'll

00:42:51 ◼   ► just not play the other games a Test

00:42:53 ◼   ► match is a big deal but what can

00:42:55 ◼   ► possibly be the big deal in a game when

00:42:57 ◼   ► we already know who's going to get the

00:42:58 ◼   ► ashes I don't understand like what

00:43:00 ◼   ► happens winning a Test match is still a

00:43:02 ◼   ► very prestigious thing and it's also

00:43:04 ◼   ► very important to the players it is less

00:43:06 ◼   ► interesting I'll give you that there is

00:43:08 ◼   ► less stake there are literally no ashes

00:43:11 ◼   ► at stake the ashes will no longer be at

00:43:13 ◼   ► stake if series has already been decided

00:43:15 ◼   ► this is true but there is a big

00:43:17 ◼   ► difference between like you know winning

00:43:19 ◼   ► a series five kneel or three to like a

00:43:21 ◼   ► five kneel whitewash is very rare and

00:43:24 ◼   ► something that people have a lot of

00:43:26 ◼   ► interest in players still have to

00:43:27 ◼   ► aggregate their stats their batting

00:43:29 ◼   ► averages or whatever this is also a very

00:43:32 ◼   ► important thing in cricket and if you

00:43:33 ◼   ► watch the second most recent numberphile

00:43:36 ◼   ► video that I made over in Australia it

00:43:38 ◼   ► is all about a really interesting story

00:43:40 ◼   ► to do with cricket averages and

00:43:42 ◼   ► statistics in fact I would like you to

00:43:44 ◼   ► watch that video it was the first

00:43:45 ◼   ► cricket video I have ever made and it's

00:43:47 ◼   ► supposed to I hope be kind of

00:43:50 ◼   ► understandable in some way to a non

00:43:53 ◼   ► cricket fan so they can come away from

00:43:54 ◼   ► it and think okay I get why that's a big

00:43:57 ◼   ► duty even though I don't understand your

00:43:59 ◼   ► silly sport you want me to be your test

00:44:01 ◼   ► subject for the person who knows nothing

00:44:02 ◼   ► about cricket oh I mean it's too late

00:44:04 ◼   ► for that I've won you released it but I

00:44:06 ◼   ► would like you to watch it I'd be

00:44:07 ◼   ► curious to hear what you think of it but

00:44:09 ◼   ► I feel like I know a lot about cricket I

00:44:10 ◼   ► know about the ashes yeah I know about

00:44:14 ◼   ► the running back and forth no nothing I

00:44:23 ◼   ► know what it looks like on TV oh god

00:44:25 ◼   ► I've got nothing I can't even fake it so

00:44:28 ◼   ► sorry

00:44:29 ◼   ► another thing I would dearly love to

00:44:31 ◼   ► talk about with you but I can't because

00:44:33 ◼   ► you just have so little knowledge and

00:44:35 ◼   ► little interest is the new Adelaide Oval

00:44:37 ◼   ► it's a such a big deal in Adelaide

00:44:40 ◼   ► because Adelaide was famous for having

00:44:41 ◼   ► this really old-fashioned cricket ground

00:44:43 ◼   ► because this is like a new stadium is

00:44:45 ◼   ► that what you're talking about

00:44:46 ◼   ► basically they've replaced this

00:44:47 ◼   ► old-fashioned quaint ground that was

00:44:50 ◼   ► famous the world over for its beauty and

00:44:51 ◼   ► looking like us from another time right

00:44:54 ◼   ► with this new super space-age modern

00:44:56 ◼   ► stadium right forgettable it sounds like

00:44:58 ◼   ► well it's been very good for Adelaide

00:45:01 ◼   ► and Adelaide people love it and they

00:45:03 ◼   ► love talking about it and all they want

00:45:06 ◼   ► to talk about is how much do you love

00:45:07 ◼   ► Adelaide Oval so and they kept asking me

00:45:09 ◼   ► Oh Brady this is your first time at

00:45:11 ◼   ► Adelaide over what do you think of it

00:45:12 ◼   ► isn't it magnificent and you can imagine

00:45:14 ◼   ► me being you know a bit of a

00:45:16 ◼   ► traditionalist I quite like the old one

00:45:18 ◼   ► and I'm sad it's gone cuz I don't

00:45:20 ◼   ► benefit week on week from having this

00:45:22 ◼   ► great stadium I just feel sad about the

00:45:24 ◼   ► lovely old one that's gone whereas the

00:45:26 ◼   ► people who live in Adelaide really

00:45:27 ◼   ► benefit from having such a magnificent

00:45:29 ◼   ► Stadium so they liked it it was a big

00:45:31 ◼   ► talking point throughout my whole

00:45:32 ◼   ► holiday did the old one look good on TV

00:45:35 ◼   ► that could you tell it was the Adelaide

00:45:37 ◼   ► Oval yes the old one was really

00:45:39 ◼   ► distinctive and it was like a place

00:45:41 ◼   ► people dreamed of going to watch cricket

00:45:43 ◼   ► one day like every cricket fan in the

00:45:45 ◼   ► world would say I would love to go to

00:45:47 ◼   ► the Adelaide over one day and watch a

00:45:49 ◼   ► game of cricket and now it is like lots

00:45:54 ◼   ► of other really good modern stadiums

00:45:55 ◼   ► yeah it just looks like a modern stadium

00:45:58 ◼   ► like it don't look like anything in

00:45:59 ◼   ► particular you can't say that to

00:46:00 ◼   ► Adelaide people that they will have a

00:46:02 ◼   ► series of comebacks to that ok I'm

00:46:04 ◼   ► talking to you and leave people yeah

00:46:05 ◼   ► right now your oval looks like a totally

00:46:08 ◼   ► forgettable Stadium there you go yeah

00:46:10 ◼   ► enjoy that I'm gonna hit lots of things

00:46:11 ◼   ► about scoreboards and churches now but

00:46:13 ◼   ► anyway oh boy I can't wait can't wait to

00:46:15 ◼   ► set up a new mute filter on Twitter if

00:46:19 ◼   ► you google old Adelaide Oval if you look

00:46:21 ◼   ► carefully you might notice a certain

00:46:23 ◼   ► building in the background as well oh

00:46:24 ◼   ► yes yeah that's like I can see a certain

00:46:27 ◼   ► building in the background of that photo

00:46:29 ◼   ► we'll come to that in a minute though

00:46:30 ◼   ► okay I didn't imagine that you took a

00:46:32 ◼   ► trip to Australia and we're not going to

00:46:34 ◼   ► hear about a certain building but we'll

00:46:36 ◼   ► get to that in a second in that 2006

00:46:38 ◼   ► picture you just sent me that white part

00:46:40 ◼   ► on the right is new and the part on the

00:46:42 ◼   ► left is that all

00:46:43 ◼   ► yeah okay I asked about it looking does

00:46:45 ◼   ► it look distinctive on TV because I

00:46:47 ◼   ► think that's the trade-off here right is

00:46:50 ◼   ► yeah a thing that looks distinctive on

00:46:54 ◼   ► television is actually like a real

00:46:57 ◼   ► advantage to any place and like this one

00:47:02 ◼   ► those things it's hard to pin down what

00:47:03 ◼   ► exactly is the value of that but having

00:47:06 ◼   ► something that is iconic is valuable to

00:47:08 ◼   ► all of the people who don't live in the

00:47:10 ◼   ► place yeah but the problem is what

00:47:12 ◼   ► they've created now even I have to

00:47:14 ◼   ► concede is such a great amenity for the

00:47:17 ◼   ► people of Adelaide it's right next to

00:47:18 ◼   ► the city centre it now holds you know

00:47:21 ◼   ► three times more people it's really

00:47:23 ◼   ► modern and easy to use because it's so

00:47:25 ◼   ► big they can now play Australian

00:47:27 ◼   ► football in the stadium which they

00:47:28 ◼   ► couldn't before

00:47:29 ◼   ► which Adelaide people love so now you

00:47:32 ◼   ► can play Australian football right near

00:47:34 ◼   ► the city centre instead of out in a

00:47:35 ◼   ► distant location so it's brilliant for

00:47:38 ◼   ► the people of Adelaide it was the right

00:47:40 ◼   ► decision good on you for having such a

00:47:42 ◼   ► good useful Stadium they've preserved

00:47:45 ◼   ► some aspects of what was special about

00:47:46 ◼   ► that oval before not as many as I'd like

00:47:48 ◼   ► people think mm-hmm they no longer have

00:47:50 ◼   ► that thing that you'll see on TV though

00:47:52 ◼   ► and your heart will ache and you'll say

00:47:54 ◼   ► I need to go to that place one day it's

00:47:56 ◼   ► no longer really distinctive and I'm sad

00:48:00 ◼   ► to lose that but hey I'm just some guy

00:48:02 ◼   ► who lives in England who maybe goes

00:48:04 ◼   ► there once every few years I'm more on

00:48:06 ◼   ► your side than you might expect with

00:48:07 ◼   ► this because they think that this is a

00:48:09 ◼   ► kind of shaming of the world it's like

00:48:12 ◼   ► oh yeah of course like the new one is

00:48:14 ◼   ► much better it's better because it's

00:48:17 ◼   ► removed a bunch of distinct features and

00:48:19 ◼   ► it's gone for the features that are the

00:48:21 ◼   ► things that would in any city make a

00:48:23 ◼   ► stadium better and those number of

00:48:26 ◼   ► things are not infinite in all

00:48:28 ◼   ► directions there's a subset of things

00:48:30 ◼   ► that it's always going to make sense

00:48:31 ◼   ► like oh here's what you would want for a

00:48:33 ◼   ► perfect stadium in a city that all of

00:48:35 ◼   ► the locals would agree is a perfect

00:48:38 ◼   ► stadium and that goes for just about

00:48:39 ◼   ► anything but I do think there is some

00:48:42 ◼   ► intangible loss by not having something

00:48:46 ◼   ► that is iconic for a particular location

00:48:49 ◼   ► but it doesn't change the fact that were

00:48:51 ◼   ► I to live in Adelaide and were I to love

00:48:53 ◼   ► cricket I too would almost certainly be

00:48:55 ◼   ► wanting a much better Stadium

00:48:57 ◼   ► me to actually go to every time I want

00:48:59 ◼   ► to trick it anyway I did meet a few

00:49:01 ◼   ► Tim's at the Adelaide Oval two of whom

00:49:03 ◼   ► were wearing hello Internet hoodies this

00:49:06 ◼   ► was quite nice so the new hello Internet

00:49:08 ◼   ► hoodies are making their way out into

00:49:09 ◼   ► the world they are they are they've made

00:49:10 ◼   ► it all the way to Adelaide met a few

00:49:12 ◼   ► people at the game which was nice did a

00:49:14 ◼   ► few selfies got me a lot of street

00:49:16 ◼   ► credibility with my friends I was at the

00:49:18 ◼   ► cricket with when people were coming up

00:49:19 ◼   ► and having a photo taken oh wow we

00:49:23 ◼   ► didn't realize it was such a big deal

00:49:24 ◼   ► that's fantastic I didn't think about

00:49:28 ◼   ► that but you feel like you're going back

00:49:30 ◼   ► home and your big man on campus you're

00:49:32 ◼   ► like oh yeah everybody loves me I was

00:49:37 ◼   ► always with a big group of like 10 guys

00:49:39 ◼   ► and I didn't know many of them and I was

00:49:42 ◼   ► just some dude so we were just sitting

00:49:43 ◼   ► watching the cricket and stuff so then

00:49:45 ◼   ► when people came up and said hello and

00:49:46 ◼   ► we're having pictures with Ray suddenly

00:49:48 ◼   ► like looked at me in a new way they were

00:49:50 ◼   ► like what do you do man actually do

00:49:52 ◼   ► that's when it gets complicated and

00:49:55 ◼   ► what's a Tim oh here we go again

00:49:58 ◼   ► do you run through the whole story in

00:50:00 ◼   ► that scenario I'm endlessly fascinated

00:50:02 ◼   ► by this do you

00:50:03 ◼   ► I don't now I just brush it off as

00:50:05 ◼   ► quickly as possible so another

00:50:08 ◼   ► interesting thing that happened around

00:50:10 ◼   ► the cricket though was there's a lot a

00:50:11 ◼   ► lot of English people go because English

00:50:13 ◼   ► cricket fans are big travellers so

00:50:14 ◼   ► wherever England are playing cricket you

00:50:16 ◼   ► will find lots of English fans so I was

00:50:19 ◼   ► out and about in town a few times and at

00:50:20 ◼   ► restaurants and cafes and things like

00:50:22 ◼   ► that when the cricket wasn't on mm-hmm

00:50:24 ◼   ► and a few times I was talking to people

00:50:26 ◼   ► and they would say you know what's going

00:50:28 ◼   ► on and that and I'd say ah I've come for

00:50:30 ◼   ► the cricket I'm enjoying the cricket and

00:50:32 ◼   ► because like England were not doing well

00:50:34 ◼   ► at certain stages they would say to me

00:50:36 ◼   ► oh don't worry I think things will get

00:50:37 ◼   ► better for you guys maybe later

00:50:39 ◼   ► and I realized everyone I spoke to

00:50:41 ◼   ► thought I was English and all my friends

00:50:43 ◼   ► were saying yeah you sound really

00:50:44 ◼   ► English now I'm not I'm not here for

00:50:46 ◼   ► Australia they're like ah we all thought

00:50:49 ◼   ► you were in England fan who sound really

00:50:51 ◼   ► English well I mean before I say

00:50:53 ◼   ► anything how do you feel about that

00:50:54 ◼   ► Brady because I think this is a

00:50:56 ◼   ► complicated question for you I just

00:50:58 ◼   ► don't think I sound English I'm not like

00:51:00 ◼   ► upset by it if it happens it happens or

00:51:02 ◼   ► if it's happened it's happened mm-hmm

00:51:03 ◼   ► and it doesn't change my heart if you

00:51:05 ◼   ► cut me I still bleed green and gold

00:51:08 ◼   ► Australia right but

00:51:10 ◼   ► it does surprise me because over here

00:51:12 ◼   ► people will say ah I thought you might

00:51:15 ◼   ► be from Australia when they talk to me

00:51:17 ◼   ► so over here I stay on strands I'm

00:51:19 ◼   ► obviously just in some middle ground

00:51:20 ◼   ► obviously and you know some hybrid is

00:51:22 ◼   ► your edge well trained enough to talk to

00:51:24 ◼   ► me and think I sound like an Englishman

00:51:26 ◼   ► or an Aussie I'll put it this way you

00:51:32 ◼   ► have a very Brady accent you sound to me

00:51:35 ◼   ► like a Brady you don't need to tread

00:51:38 ◼   ► carefully here there's no no it's not

00:51:39 ◼   ► that I'm trying to tread carefully it's

00:51:41 ◼   ► just I think it's an interesting thing

00:51:42 ◼   ► because one thing that I notice is if

00:51:46 ◼   ► I'm talking to people who listen to the

00:51:48 ◼   ► show like let's say that they're not

00:51:49 ◼   ► careful listeners hmm overwhelmingly

00:51:51 ◼   ► people think that you are British okay I

00:51:54 ◼   ► would say almost exclusively if they

00:51:56 ◼   ► don't know particular facts about you

00:51:57 ◼   ► they just assume that you are British

00:51:58 ◼   ► and I think that your accents the

00:52:02 ◼   ► Australian assent has been greatly

00:52:06 ◼   ► softened by your time over here I'm not

00:52:11 ◼   ► surprised that what happens is when you

00:52:13 ◼   ► go back to Australia people think that

00:52:16 ◼   ► you are English like when I used to

00:52:18 ◼   ► teach English kids all day I had this

00:52:21 ◼   ► this same effect when I went to America

00:52:23 ◼   ► and I went to places where people didn't

00:52:25 ◼   ► know me there is no way an English

00:52:28 ◼   ► person would confuse me for being an

00:52:30 ◼   ► English person but an American person

00:52:32 ◼   ► was just hearing something that's

00:52:34 ◼   ► different and so then assuming

00:52:36 ◼   ► foreignness and I think that's what's

00:52:38 ◼   ► happening to you it's it's not like you

00:52:39 ◼   ► sound like the Queen but they're hearing

00:52:42 ◼   ► something that's different so they're

00:52:45 ◼   ► assuming that you're not Australian and

00:52:48 ◼   ► then the closest thing that you map onto

00:52:50 ◼   ► is sounding English I think that would

00:52:53 ◼   ► happen yeah I mean I have no doubt

00:52:55 ◼   ► certain little things have changed but I

00:52:57 ◼   ► would have thought not enough that an

00:52:59 ◼   ► Australian would say oh look here's an

00:53:01 ◼   ► English guy but I I hear what you're

00:53:02 ◼   ► saying it makes sense when you describe

00:53:04 ◼   ► it that way there's a slight little

00:53:05 ◼   ► things that are throwing them and

00:53:06 ◼   ► therefore they just saying must be a pom

00:53:08 ◼   ► that must just be some English accent

00:53:10 ◼   ► I've ever heard before you know this is

00:53:12 ◼   ► the North East of England

00:53:13 ◼   ► I just think humans are extraordinarily

00:53:16 ◼   ► sensitive to in-group markers and so I

00:53:20 ◼   ► think that's what's happening like you

00:53:21 ◼   ► just say some things a little bit

00:53:23 ◼   ► and that it immediately marks you as

00:53:26 ◼   ► like out-group member so where is the

00:53:28 ◼   ► place that this person is from I think

00:53:30 ◼   ► that's all that's happening there okay

00:53:31 ◼   ► so one of the things I did while I was

00:53:33 ◼   ► over there was I took one of my bags of

00:53:36 ◼   ► hello internet hot Stoppers and I found

00:53:41 ◼   ► my way to that mighty building the

00:53:43 ◼   ► Greenville Center the mighty black stump

00:53:46 ◼   ► and I walked in and in like the lobby

00:53:49 ◼   ► atrium there's a cafe which is recently

00:53:53 ◼   ► under new management I learned and the

00:53:55 ◼   ► new manager has changed the name of the

00:53:57 ◼   ► cafe to black stump espresso which I

00:54:03 ◼   ► think also is is vindication for anyone

00:54:06 ◼   ► who says no one ever calls that building

00:54:08 ◼   ► the black stump because sometimes I hear

00:54:10 ◼   ► that like people say oh I spoke to my

00:54:12 ◼   ► friend from Adelaide they've never heard

00:54:13 ◼   ► of the black stump or it's not called

00:54:14 ◼   ► the black stump so vindication I say you

00:54:17 ◼   ► know what's gonna happen Brady though is

00:54:18 ◼   ► that people are going to start saying I

00:54:20 ◼   ► think you're just confusing it with the

00:54:21 ◼   ► coffee place that's inside that building

00:54:25 ◼   ► anyway I went up to the owner it was

00:54:27 ◼   ► just before opening time and I said look

00:54:29 ◼   ► and know this is gonna sound a bit weird

00:54:31 ◼   ► but I told him my story and I said would

00:54:35 ◼   ► he be willing to stock at no charge to

00:54:37 ◼   ► him hello internet hot Stoppers and be

00:54:40 ◼   ► the sole stockist of hello internet hot

00:54:44 ◼   ► stoppers because I first of all I said

00:54:45 ◼   ► or can I see your coffee cups and a

00:54:47 ◼   ► plastic lid she put on I check that I

00:54:49 ◼   ► fit and everything and they did and I

00:54:51 ◼   ► said here you go do you want to do it

00:54:53 ◼   ► and he was like all right so I said you

00:54:56 ◼   ► don't have to leave them out you can

00:54:57 ◼   ► just have them hidden behind the counter

00:54:59 ◼   ► but if any socially awkward nerdy person

00:55:01 ◼   ► ever comes up and says hi do you have

00:55:04 ◼   ► any hot stoppers

00:55:07 ◼   ► I love the whole premise of this right

00:55:09 ◼   ► because it's not I'll leave them out for

00:55:11 ◼   ► promotional purposes it's people will

00:55:14 ◼   ► come and ask for the secret thing it's a

00:55:18 ◼   ► it was brilliant so anyway I was there

00:55:20 ◼   ► he was that he was on board

00:55:22 ◼   ► top guy so if you go to the black stump

00:55:25 ◼   ► espresso cafe at the bottom of the

00:55:28 ◼   ► Grenville Center the mighty black stump

00:55:29 ◼   ► in Adelaide and order a coffee and then

00:55:32 ◼   ► give them a little wink and say can I

00:55:33 ◼   ► have a hello internet hot stopper they

00:55:36 ◼   ► should pour

00:55:37 ◼   ► burnout from a secret drawer behind the

00:55:39 ◼   ► counter and give you one in your drink

00:55:41 ◼   ► so anyway while I was there I decided to

00:55:44 ◼   ► tweet I said I'm at the Marty black

00:55:46 ◼   ► stamp I've got hot Stoppers hmm if you

00:55:49 ◼   ► want to come and say hello and get one

00:55:51 ◼   ► now's your chance I don't even know why

00:55:53 ◼   ► I did it I didn't think I thought maybe

00:55:55 ◼   ► one person might turn up but over the

00:55:58 ◼   ► next one a half-hour or say various

00:56:01 ◼   ► breathless Tim's came bursting into the

00:56:04 ◼   ► lobby thinking they'd miss me

00:56:06 ◼   ► it's and then there's that obvious

00:56:09 ◼   ► awkwardness where no one really quite

00:56:10 ◼   ► knows what to say right but I said to

00:56:12 ◼   ► them if you want I'd already lost my hot

00:56:14 ◼   ► stop as I'd given them to the guy so I

00:56:16 ◼   ► said if you actually want a hot stopper

00:56:17 ◼   ► you've got to go and buy a drink mm-hmm

00:56:19 ◼   ► but they did and we ended up sitting

00:56:21 ◼   ► around there was like a nice little

00:56:22 ◼   ► there's a few sofas and a table and I

00:56:24 ◼   ► ended up sitting hanging out with a

00:56:25 ◼   ► bunch of Tim's while we sipped our hot

00:56:28 ◼   ► drinks all using our own hello internet

00:56:30 ◼   ► hot stoppers the funny thing was there

00:56:33 ◼   ► were old Tim's but over half of them

00:56:35 ◼   ► were named Matt go figure

00:56:37 ◼   ► there was just a lot of Matt's but

00:56:40 ◼   ► they're old Tim's as well you're so good

00:56:41 ◼   ► to the fans brady you're so good to them

00:56:43 ◼   ► it was good fun it was fun they don't

00:56:46 ◼   ► like come rushing in from wherever they

00:56:48 ◼   ► were like you know some of them were

00:56:50 ◼   ► just next door so they were out to go

00:56:51 ◼   ► and say hello the other one said like

00:56:53 ◼   ► you know been on a bus and then run

00:56:54 ◼   ► through town to get there it was really

00:56:57 ◼   ► nice this is like you created a little

00:57:00 ◼   ► hello Internet flash mob is what you did

00:57:02 ◼   ► I did I think the guy running the cafe

00:57:04 ◼   ► when I gave him the things thought maybe

00:57:06 ◼   ► I was like some kind of fantasy store

00:57:08 ◼   ► something and he was just humoring me so

00:57:10 ◼   ► when all these people gathered he was

00:57:11 ◼   ► humoring you right it was one funny

00:57:13 ◼   ► incident they the next day because I

00:57:15 ◼   ► tweeted this and you can see pictures

00:57:16 ◼   ► and I tweeted that you could get these

00:57:18 ◼   ► hot Stoppers now and so over the next

00:57:20 ◼   ► day or two people started arriving and

00:57:23 ◼   ► getting their hot Stoppers and obviously

00:57:26 ◼   ► what happened was the guy behind the

00:57:28 ◼   ► counter like as a joke gave a hot

00:57:30 ◼   ► stopper to someone mm-hmm and sort of

00:57:34 ◼   ► wink to them and said are you lucky he

00:57:35 ◼   ► got the last one mm-hmm so that person

00:57:38 ◼   ► then tweeted saying warning everyone

00:57:40 ◼   ► they've run out I just got the last one

00:57:42 ◼   ► and that created like all these people

00:57:43 ◼   ► now I can't believe they're gone and

00:57:45 ◼   ► someone went like an arrow to later and

00:57:47 ◼   ► the guy opened the drawer and gave him

00:57:49 ◼   ► another one so then he was like

00:57:51 ◼   ► richting it and saying it was a folks

00:57:53 ◼   ► alarm everyone they've still got a hot

00:57:54 ◼   ► stuff was they haven't run out and this

00:57:55 ◼   ► Tim confronted the guy and said I just

00:57:58 ◼   ► read on Twitter that you said it was the

00:57:59 ◼   ► last one but you've got a whole drawer

00:58:00 ◼   ► full of them and he was like I was just

00:58:02 ◼   ► joking I don't think he realized the

00:58:05 ◼   ► power he's reading you don't understand

00:58:06 ◼   ► the forces you're messing with here

00:58:08 ◼   ► buddy don't joke about running out of

00:58:10 ◼   ► hot stuffers say last I heard they still

00:58:13 ◼   ► have some say don't believe any fake

00:58:15 ◼   ► news about hot stoppers that you may see

00:58:16 ◼   ► on the Internet like go yourself and

00:58:18 ◼   ► find out you can't trust anything you

00:58:20 ◼   ► read on the Internet and I love that I

00:58:22 ◼   ► love that I don't think I could convince

00:58:24 ◼   ► a coffee shop to take hot Stoppers from

00:58:27 ◼   ► me I don't think I'm that charming I

00:58:29 ◼   ► thought I don't think I would have the

00:58:30 ◼   ► social skills to pull that off I think I

00:58:33 ◼   ► was helped by the fact it's quite a

00:58:34 ◼   ► small operation like I warmed in the

00:58:36 ◼   ► Starbucks but the fact it was just a

00:58:39 ◼   ► couple of guys one of the guys that was

00:58:41 ◼   ► the owner and they haven't been in

00:58:42 ◼   ► business very long and I think maybe I

00:58:45 ◼   ► made it sound like they would get extra

00:58:46 ◼   ► business as a result of it mmm

00:58:50 ◼   ► you know he was just like whatever

00:58:51 ◼   ► it's no no skin off my nose they don't

00:58:53 ◼   ► have their own hot stoppers so right

00:58:55 ◼   ► you're providing a service we did

00:58:58 ◼   ► exchange details I said if you ever run

00:58:59 ◼   ► out give me a call I was gonna say every

00:59:01 ◼   ► time you fly to Adelaide you need to

00:59:02 ◼   ► bring boxes of hot stoppers with you it

00:59:04 ◼   ► might get a bit that way but anyway part

00:59:07 ◼   ► of me thinks I should expand this and

00:59:09 ◼   ► find out who else wants to stock them

00:59:11 ◼   ► but pardon me likes the idea there's

00:59:12 ◼   ► just one place in the world you can do

00:59:14 ◼   ► it and it's the foot of the Marty black

00:59:16 ◼   ► stamp there's something magical about

00:59:18 ◼   ► that

00:59:18 ◼   ► there is something magical about that

00:59:19 ◼   ► there's also at least for the first time

00:59:21 ◼   ► there's something magical about you

00:59:24 ◼   ► having delivered them in person yeah

00:59:26 ◼   ► like we were discussing previously

00:59:28 ◼   ► there's these hot Stoppers I just feel

00:59:30 ◼   ► like they are hot Stoppers of whimsy and

00:59:31 ◼   ► this is whimsical I mean 100%

00:59:34 ◼   ► improvement of this like this is really

00:59:36 ◼   ► great I have started sending them out to

00:59:40 ◼   ► a few random patrons as well and I'm

00:59:43 ◼   ► just gonna do that occasionally when it

00:59:44 ◼   ► pops into my head so if you are up like

00:59:46 ◼   ► a patreon person and you've supplied the

00:59:48 ◼   ► address then one day you may just get a

00:59:50 ◼   ► hot stopper unexpectedly but it's not

00:59:52 ◼   ► going to be like there's not lots of

00:59:53 ◼   ► them it's just a it is as gray like to

00:59:56 ◼   ► say there are hot Stoppers of whimsy and

00:59:58 ◼   ► that again will also be just a whims

00:59:58 ◼   ► that again will also be just a whims

01:00:00 ◼   ► the cool thing that occasionally happens

01:00:02 ◼   ► one of these days I might have to travel

01:00:04 ◼   ► to Adelaide and get a coffee there with

01:00:08 ◼   ► it I tell you what that's tougher I do

01:00:10 ◼   ► think I do think we need to start a

01:00:12 ◼   ► campaign for the South Australian

01:00:14 ◼   ► Tourism Commission to fly you and I out

01:00:17 ◼   ► for a hello Internet

01:00:18 ◼   ► South Australian tour oh yeah because

01:00:21 ◼   ► the Thule clearly I'm not gonna get you

01:00:23 ◼   ► to fly to Australia unless like you know

01:00:26 ◼   ► it's a really nice trip so I think the

01:00:28 ◼   ► South Australian Tourism Commission has

01:00:30 ◼   ► to pick up the slack here imagine that

01:00:32 ◼   ► we could do a podcast from the Adelaide

01:00:34 ◼   ► Oval from the black stamp right I'll

01:00:36 ◼   ► take you out into the outback take you

01:00:38 ◼   ► to a cricket match take you to Glenelg

01:00:40 ◼   ► glitter do all the wine areas up in the

01:00:43 ◼   ► Adelaide Hills oh I'll show you all the

01:00:45 ◼   ► places where I went to school this is

01:00:52 ◼   ► turning really bad that's like on me

01:00:54 ◼   ► maybe he's mildly interesting but then

01:00:55 ◼   ► if it turns into like a trip down Brady

01:00:57 ◼   ► memory lane right everywhere we went

01:01:00 ◼   ► see that road there I once I once bought

01:01:03 ◼   ► a hamburger it would be like an in

01:01:06 ◼   ► person photograph album here's all of

01:01:10 ◼   ► the pictures of me when I was a kid no

01:01:11 ◼   ► no it would take a lot of willpower for

01:01:15 ◼   ► me not to bore you but when you would

01:01:19 ◼   ► also see some cool stuff right and you

01:01:21 ◼   ► get to see the black stump in real life

01:01:22 ◼   ► and it it's pretty impressive right

01:01:24 ◼   ► well I can't believe I forgot to tell

01:01:27 ◼   ► you the most important thing oh my god

01:01:28 ◼   ► what is it what is it so it turns out a

01:01:32 ◼   ► friend of mine works in the tallest

01:01:36 ◼   ► building in Adelaide the Westpac

01:01:37 ◼   ► building and her office floor has a

01:01:41 ◼   ► magnificent view of the mighty black

01:01:45 ◼   ► stamp and the rival building the Telstra

01:01:49 ◼   ► building and this view from the office a

01:01:52 ◼   ► few hundred meters away pretty much puts

01:01:55 ◼   ► you at the same level of the two of them

01:01:57 ◼   ► mm-hmm I'm gonna send you a picture I

01:01:59 ◼   ► took a photo at the window of the mighty

01:02:02 ◼   ► black stump and this rival building that

01:02:05 ◼   ► you know I don't like right so this is

01:02:09 ◼   ► the best picture I've seen yet of the

01:02:13 ◼   ► muddy black stump

01:02:14 ◼   ► and the Telstra Building okay so we're

01:02:15 ◼   ► looking at the mighty black stump and

01:02:17 ◼   ► this Telstra house which is technically

01:02:19 ◼   ► taller

01:02:19 ◼   ► according to the internet by like one

01:02:23 ◼   ► meter clearly the mighty black stump is

01:02:25 ◼   ► a bigger building even if you find

01:02:28 ◼   ► technical reasons for aerial aside

01:02:31 ◼   ► obviously if you include the area with

01:02:32 ◼   ► the mighty black stump way bigger there

01:02:34 ◼   ► is like this plant area on top of both

01:02:36 ◼   ► which the black stump seems to have a

01:02:38 ◼   ► bigger one really I think you know you

01:02:43 ◼   ► know I'm really amazed at you as a

01:02:45 ◼   ► podcasting co-host I really do I love

01:02:47 ◼   ► your enthusiasm for very many things

01:02:50 ◼   ► mm-hmm I think this photograph is not as

01:02:53 ◼   ► much of a slam-dunk as you think it is I

01:02:55 ◼   ► can see where the argument comes from

01:02:57 ◼   ► with that top brow of the Telstra

01:02:59 ◼   ► building I'm not even talking about like

01:03:00 ◼   ► the top brow i matter many of this is

01:03:02 ◼   ► just this is a picture of two buildings

01:03:04 ◼   ► from like an unclear angle I can't just

01:03:08 ◼   ► give it to you is like this is amazing

01:03:10 ◼   ► proof that the mighty black stump is

01:03:13 ◼   ► bigger like pictures from unknown angles

01:03:16 ◼   ► are how they pulled off all of the scale

01:03:18 ◼   ► tricks in the Lord of the Rings I said

01:03:20 ◼   ► like I don't know where this photograph

01:03:21 ◼   ► is taken from I can't take this as proof

01:03:24 ◼   ► that you you seem so certain that it is

01:03:26 ◼   ► so I'm not saying it's conclusive but I

01:03:28 ◼   ► think it helps me it certainly looks in

01:03:31 ◼   ► your favor in the photo I will give you

01:03:33 ◼   ► that I will grant you that you'll have

01:03:34 ◼   ► to take my word from it but those two

01:03:35 ◼   ► buildings are pretty much the same

01:03:37 ◼   ► distance away from me there now I'm

01:03:39 ◼   ► wondering I still feel like I want I

01:03:42 ◼   ► want some Tim to arrange like a laser

01:03:44 ◼   ► reading from space on these two

01:03:46 ◼   ► buildings the funny thing is that photo

01:03:51 ◼   ► is taken from an architect's office like

01:03:54 ◼   ► I knocked on the door and said do you

01:03:56 ◼   ► mind if I come in and take a picture at

01:03:57 ◼   ► your window because I'm really

01:03:59 ◼   ► interested most two buildings over there

01:04:01 ◼   ► and they were like yeah okay they had

01:04:03 ◼   ► all like blueprints that which was

01:04:05 ◼   ► really cool so they look at these two

01:04:06 ◼   ► buildings every day and I said I'm

01:04:08 ◼   ► really interested in the Grenville

01:04:09 ◼   ► Center I didn't call it the mighty black

01:04:10 ◼   ► stump because I thought it might confuse

01:04:12 ◼   ► them right I said I'm really interested

01:04:13 ◼   ► in the Grenville Center and they said

01:04:15 ◼   ► which ones there and I'm like what do

01:04:18 ◼   ► you mean which ones there the black

01:04:20 ◼   ► building there and they go ah yeah that

01:04:22 ◼   ► black building we just always call that

01:04:23 ◼   ► black building over there and they

01:04:25 ◼   ► didn't even know anything about it

01:04:27 ◼   ► didn't know it was called the mighty

01:04:28 ◼   ► black stamp they and I like your

01:04:30 ◼   ► architects it's appalling it's appalling

01:04:32 ◼   ► that other people don't know what you

01:04:34 ◼   ► know absolutely appalling they're

01:04:36 ◼   ► architects in Adelaide with a window

01:04:38 ◼   ► that looks out over those buildings

01:04:40 ◼   ► you'd think they'd know like Adelaide

01:04:42 ◼   ► buildings if once again evidence

01:04:44 ◼   ► actually lining up in favor of the

01:04:46 ◼   ► building not being nearly as historic or

01:04:47 ◼   ► as impressive as you think it is but

01:04:49 ◼   ► sure yeah keep going keep going

01:04:53 ◼   ► I've never denied that my affection for

01:04:57 ◼   ► the muddy black stump is borne of like

01:04:58 ◼   ► my era but still what's the tallest

01:05:01 ◼   ► build you'd think architects would know

01:05:03 ◼   ► the four or five tallest buildings in

01:05:05 ◼   ► town I am never one to over assume how

01:05:08 ◼   ► much people know about anything as long

01:05:10 ◼   ► as they know how to architect the

01:05:11 ◼   ► buildings they're architecting I'm happy

01:05:13 ◼   ► with that

01:05:14 ◼   ► how good is that picture I took though

01:05:15 ◼   ► isn't that a magnificent picture it is a

01:05:17 ◼   ► very magnificent picture Brady I do have

01:05:19 ◼   ► to say that the mighty black stump looks

01:05:21 ◼   ► pretty great it looks like a like a

01:05:22 ◼   ► building black hole on the skyline there

01:05:24 ◼   ► it is it's really those looks like it's

01:05:27 ◼   ► painted a vente black in that one

01:05:28 ◼   ► one day I'll go maybe intentionally on

01:05:31 ◼   ► my own tweet the South Australian

01:05:34 ◼   ► tourist Commission if you want to

01:05:35 ◼   ► organize a hello Internet trip we do a

01:05:38 ◼   ► live show and everything go imagine that

01:05:40 ◼   ► mmm maybe we could do a live shot the

01:05:42 ◼   ► Adelaide Oval there hold 60,000 people

01:05:45 ◼   ► so it should hold those seven or eight

01:05:47 ◼   ► teams yeah

01:05:50 ◼   ► Brady once again underestimate the hello

01:05:51 ◼   ► Internet audience but I met the six or

01:05:54 ◼   ► seven that turned up to the Blackstone

01:05:55 ◼   ► yeah they're the ones who I think we can

01:05:57 ◼   ► bank on turning up yeah we can bank on

01:06:00 ◼   ► that what I think you definitely cannot

01:06:02 ◼   ► Bank on is a live hello Internet being

01:06:06 ◼   ► remotely interesting to watch especially

01:06:10 ◼   ► especially I like this in my mind's eye

01:06:13 ◼   ► the setting is the Adelaide Oval is of

01:06:16 ◼   ► course packed to the brim yeah and you

01:06:19 ◼   ► and I are just sitting at a little table

01:06:21 ◼   ► in the centre with two microphones in

01:06:24 ◼   ► front of us it would look just like a

01:06:25 ◼   ► Test match that have the Mexican way of

01:06:28 ◼   ► going and all sorts they get well into

01:06:32 ◼   ► it I'd make sure it was a spectacle

01:06:36 ◼   ► there you go pray you start making

01:06:38 ◼   ► promises so gray while I was back in

01:06:44 ◼   ► Australia I caught up with lots of my

01:06:45 ◼   ► friends mmm lots of them

01:06:48 ◼   ► have children so it's always a chance

01:06:50 ◼   ► for me to sort of dip into the world of

01:06:52 ◼   ► parenting and things like that and find

01:06:54 ◼   ► out latest trends what it's like to be a

01:06:56 ◼   ► parent mmm my friends children are

01:06:59 ◼   ► getting like that little bit older mmm

01:07:01 ◼   ► and I have to say I mean I probably

01:07:03 ◼   ► sound really stupid to people who like

01:07:05 ◼   ► have kids in there but in the last sort

01:07:08 ◼   ► of three or four years I didn't realize

01:07:10 ◼   ► how much parenting has changed and how

01:07:13 ◼   ► much of an issue smartphones and

01:07:17 ◼   ► technology and connectivity is like it

01:07:20 ◼   ► is escalated to a point that I didn't

01:07:24 ◼   ► expect and I'll give you like a cute

01:07:26 ◼   ► example and then I'll give you like a

01:07:28 ◼   ► more extreme example that struck with me

01:07:31 ◼   ► just before you do I just want to say

01:07:32 ◼   ► like I'm genuinely curious to hear about

01:07:35 ◼   ► this because I have my little

01:07:37 ◼   ► conversational go twos but one of mine

01:07:39 ◼   ► when talking to parents is I find this

01:07:42 ◼   ► endlessly interesting to ask parents how

01:07:45 ◼   ► did they manage the digital lives of

01:07:48 ◼   ► their children yeah like I think that

01:07:49 ◼   ► this is such an issue in the modern

01:07:53 ◼   ► world and this is not about screen time

01:07:54 ◼   ► screen time was a problem when when you

01:07:56 ◼   ► and I were kids you know too much time

01:07:58 ◼   ► on the TV or videos or computers or the

01:08:00 ◼   ► the Atari just is not about screen time

01:08:02 ◼   ► yeah this is about connectivity my

01:08:05 ◼   ► parents had to simply worry that I was

01:08:06 ◼   ► sinking a hundred and forty hours a week

01:08:08 ◼   ► into Total Annihilation

01:08:10 ◼   ► right that's like that was that was

01:08:11 ◼   ► their concern okay you turned that fan

01:08:14 ◼   ► fantastic exactly exactly so fun example

01:08:18 ◼   ► first was the issue of Santa Claus the

01:08:22 ◼   ► much-loved and legendary character who I

01:08:25 ◼   ► won't go into too much detail about

01:08:27 ◼   ► because I'm now very aware that my

01:08:29 ◼   ► nephew listens to hello Internet and

01:08:30 ◼   ► he's six years old but also like were

01:08:32 ◼   ► you just about to explain who Santa

01:08:34 ◼   ► Claus this to the audience like like

01:08:36 ◼   ► that I think we can assume listeners now

01:08:38 ◼   ► know but there are certain aspects of

01:08:40 ◼   ► listeners know about Santa to whatever

01:08:43 ◼   ► level they know all right well anyway I

01:08:45 ◼   ► was talking to one of my friends about

01:08:48 ◼   ► Deeks

01:08:49 ◼   ► to which his daughter knew about Santa

01:08:51 ◼   ► Claus right because she was at an age

01:08:52 ◼   ► where you know I think she would still

01:08:55 ◼   ► be enjoying Santa Claus to his fullest

01:08:58 ◼   ► legendary Ness right of course

01:09:00 ◼   ► and I said oh yeah like you know what

01:09:04 ◼   ► does she know how you're playing that

01:09:05 ◼   ► game and he said oh she googled it she

01:09:10 ◼   ► was having doubts and she just googled

01:09:11 ◼   ► it so she found out about the working

01:09:14 ◼   ► conditions for the elves that's a real

01:09:16 ◼   ► thing all the facts all the santa facts

01:09:18 ◼   ► that need to be known and like you know

01:09:21 ◼   ► we found out about it through like you

01:09:23 ◼   ► know stories in the schoolyard now it's

01:09:25 ◼   ► just hmm what is the case here three or

01:09:29 ◼   ► four taps of a keyboard okay there you

01:09:32 ◼   ► go

01:09:32 ◼   ► but do you know what I then did I

01:09:34 ◼   ► googled it yeah I am googling Santa

01:09:37 ◼   ► Claus Google does Santa Claus exists and

01:09:42 ◼   ► when you do that it's really hard to

01:09:45 ◼   ► come to any conclusive answer if I was a

01:09:49 ◼   ► little kid and I good with that I think

01:09:51 ◼   ► I would be more confused than I was to

01:09:52 ◼   ► start with I think you could read the

01:09:54 ◼   ► Wikipedia article about Santa Claus and

01:09:56 ◼   ► come away with no definitive answer on

01:09:58 ◼   ► the existence question at least when I

01:10:00 ◼   ► google it the number one result for me

01:10:02 ◼   ► is a link that takes you to an Amazon

01:10:04 ◼   ► page for a book that is called does

01:10:07 ◼   ► Santa exists a philosophical

01:10:09 ◼   ► investigation it's like maybe a little

01:10:13 ◼   ► bit beyond most of the kids who are

01:10:15 ◼   ► probably googling does Santa exist and I

01:10:18 ◼   ► I can see that it's like oh okay

01:10:19 ◼   ► then some kid orders it on their Kindle

01:10:21 ◼   ► and starts reading and finds it a very

01:10:22 ◼   ► confusing subject so at first when my

01:10:25 ◼   ► friend told me you know she googled it

01:10:27 ◼   ► I was thinking all that would have just

01:10:28 ◼   ► ruined it in seconds but now I'm

01:10:30 ◼   ► thinking I'm impressed she actually

01:10:31 ◼   ► arrived at any conclusion after doing

01:10:33 ◼   ► that

01:10:34 ◼   ► yeah but I'm curious I wanted to see the

01:10:38 ◼   ► Wikipedia introductory sentence hmm and

01:10:41 ◼   ► and I like this I like the sentence

01:10:43 ◼   ► Santa Claus also known as Saint Nicholas

01:10:46 ◼   ► st. Nick Kris Kringle father Christmas

01:10:49 ◼   ► or simply Santa is a legendary figure

01:10:54 ◼   ► originating in Western Christian culture

01:10:57 ◼   ► who was said to bring gifts to the homes

01:10:59 ◼   ► of well-behaved or good children on

01:11:01 ◼   ► Christmas Eve or Christmas Day

01:11:03 ◼   ► so I like that a legendary figure that's

01:11:06 ◼   ► good that's good

01:11:06 ◼   ► anyway let's not get too bogged down

01:11:09 ◼   ► with the philosophy and the existence of

01:11:11 ◼   ► Santa Claus because I want to talk about

01:11:14 ◼   ► the more interesting aspect of this and

01:11:16 ◼   ► this was another friend of mine whose

01:11:18 ◼   ► child was a little bit older mm-hmm

01:11:21 ◼   ► but not that old and I was at the pub

01:11:24 ◼   ► with him we're having a drink and his

01:11:26 ◼   ► phone goes off Bing and it's his child

01:11:29 ◼   ► saying dad I've done my homework I've

01:11:31 ◼   ► been really good today hmm can I have my

01:11:34 ◼   ► apps hmm and he was in a good mood and

01:11:37 ◼   ► he was having a drink with his old pal

01:11:39 ◼   ► Brady and he said ah what the heck

01:11:41 ◼   ► texted her back and said because I'm

01:11:43 ◼   ► here with Brady and because you've been

01:11:44 ◼   ► a good girl yes and here I open up this

01:11:46 ◼   ► app on his phone called our pact and

01:11:48 ◼   ► basically what that is is it gives him

01:11:51 ◼   ► total control over his child's apps on

01:11:55 ◼   ► her phone who so he has the whole list

01:11:58 ◼   ► of all the apps what times she can use

01:12:01 ◼   ► it so she can use Facebook between 5:15

01:12:04 ◼   ► and 5:30 like to find fine-grained

01:12:08 ◼   ► details and when the app is not allowed

01:12:10 ◼   ► it just doesn't appear on her phone she

01:12:12 ◼   ► hasn't got it can control everything

01:12:14 ◼   ► about her phone use he can put time

01:12:16 ◼   ► limits on things so she can have like

01:12:18 ◼   ► you know 15 minutes of Instagram a day

01:12:21 ◼   ► and it's up to her how she decides to

01:12:22 ◼   ► use and how to ration it he can then

01:12:24 ◼   ► allow the apps any time he chooses like

01:12:27 ◼   ► he did when he was with me we can shut

01:12:28 ◼   ► them down any time he chooses if he

01:12:30 ◼   ► wants to like if he thinks he needs to

01:12:32 ◼   ► for disciplinary reasons and it was this

01:12:34 ◼   ► incredible amount of control which makes

01:12:36 ◼   ► sense to me you know I'm not it makes

01:12:38 ◼   ► that there's something about it they're

01:12:39 ◼   ► striking me is a little bit black mirror

01:12:41 ◼   ► ish the child's digital world appears

01:12:43 ◼   ► and dissapears at the press of a button

01:12:45 ◼   ► on the other he said that he said

01:12:47 ◼   ► they've just vanished from her screen

01:12:48 ◼   ► it's very sign of the times isn't it

01:12:50 ◼   ► well I think it's kind of necessary but

01:12:52 ◼   ► I was saying oh this is amazing

01:12:54 ◼   ► but then the other amazing thing was

01:12:56 ◼   ► like you know his kids are smart

01:12:58 ◼   ► mm-hmm and they understand technology

01:13:00 ◼   ► and this is not enough there's like a

01:13:02 ◼   ► whole arms war that goes on between you

01:13:06 ◼   ► try to control your children's access to

01:13:08 ◼   ► the Internet and stuff like that and

01:13:10 ◼   ► their desire to get that access Ravin

01:13:12 ◼   ► when they're not supposed to have it and

01:13:14 ◼   ► he was you know telling stories of you

01:13:16 ◼   ► know

01:13:16 ◼   ► borrowing your friends phone or having

01:13:18 ◼   ► different accounts and all these sorts

01:13:20 ◼   ► of things just like normal kids stuff

01:13:21 ◼   ► that you and I would do but if you're a

01:13:23 ◼   ► parent so he has to be really really

01:13:26 ◼   ► across the technology to be able to

01:13:29 ◼   ► police his children's use of the