H.I. 94: Video of Meaninglessness
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so gray do you know how I know you've
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changed how do you know that I've
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changed well moments before we started
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this Cole hmm I received a message from
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you which was a video of you picking up
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a mr. chompers dog poo yeah as requested
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as requested and I was looking at going
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he's changed and then the FaceTime Co
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happens up you pop on my screen and
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there you are cuddling mr. chompers mr.
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chompers is in the house right now sadly
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I can't have him here while I'm
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recording because the chomping sounds
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would overwhelm everything he's really
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into his chew bones it would literally
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be just the background of the entire
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podcast and you think people wouldn't
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like that I think it would be
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distracting I think that people wouldn't
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so he's currently in the other room
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being looked after by my wife and he's a
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very sleepy dog because he had a huge
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walk through the park today
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so he's chilling out right now in the
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next room I have to say I'm impressed by
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mr. chompers cuteness I would say he's
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approaching 80 to 90% of Audrey cuteness
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oh okay is that how you measure dog
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cuteness you know only asymptotically
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approach one Audrey for cuteness is that
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how that works yeah it can't ever
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actually be reached but you know but
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dogs can get closer and closer to what
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one Audrey of cuteness he's pretty cute
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he may lose a bit of that as he gets a
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bit bigger but he's still quite a sight
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yeah he's adorable but they do grow up
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so fast no not if you've got an Audrey
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it's true she does not change in size
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but they D puppy so fast that's true
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like I look into his little mr. chompers
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face and even just over the weeks that
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I've known him I can see that he's
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getting a little bit more jolly in his
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face iris like oh your puppy face is
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becoming just a bit more jolly as you
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get older he's still super adorable I
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think the same thing about you sometimes
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I think we all get more jelly as we as
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we age it's like what you're getting a
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squeeze now little guy like that's
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what's happening right little squeeze
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maybe a little kiss on the head is
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nothing but purifying after mr. chompers
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you put your mouth on him yeah what's we
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didn't you kiss a dog Brady not on the
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middle obviously cuz they're disgusting
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do that that is vile right that is
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absolutely vile and I have to say as key
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as mr. chompers is he would be quite
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high on the list of dogs I would not
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want to kiss on the mouth there's one of
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these things where it's a bit like
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having a baby where it where they do
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like a gross thing and you feel like the
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parents are always like oh but it's my
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baby so it's less gross mr. chompers
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does have this habit of sneezing right
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into my face and sometimes I can sense
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that it's coming like a split second
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before it's about to happen yeah you
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could see like he's that he's like a
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snout II dog with a huge amount when he
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sneezes right in your face it is so
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gross gross it is not a light delicate
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sneeze it's disgusting but now a little
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kiss on the top of the head for mr.
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chompers yeah that's perfectly fine
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that's nice but like people who do dog
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kisses on the mouth disgusting
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sharing ice cream with the dog gross
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right don't to that that's that's
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revolting you got any more mr. chompers
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stories to share what's been going on
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what's the what's the latest well I mean
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here's the thing Brady you said I have
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changed I don't think I have changed at
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all I'm still the same person hmm but I
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do feel like I've fallen into an
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alternate universe version of London
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because we've been training mr. chompers
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to be better a walking walking not his
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strongest suit
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he can be very stubborn and just sort of
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sits there but he's gotten much better
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and in the past mm 10 days we can now
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take him on real little walks like what
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we're walking through the park and he's
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coming along and he's doing great but
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now this means we're in our local park
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and there are neighborhood dogs here
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well mr. jumpers is one of them yeah mr.
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chompers is totally one of the
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neighborhood dogs and there's a thing
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that which I think I've mentioned before
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but I think it's fantastic which is in
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London and I think almost every single
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Park dog czar just allowed off the
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leashes which is fantastic I think it's
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the way that it should be dogs just go
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like run wild and crazy in the park and
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this actually going to some of the
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themes of the show I think is a perfect
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case where things are more safe when
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they seem less safe like so by having
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all of the dogs off of the leashes
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they're just fine like they're just
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running around doing what they want and
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they don't really interact with people
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and there is a way
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dogs when they're on leashes the very
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fact that they're on a leash can sort of
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agitate them into more aggressive
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behavior so I think it's better for
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everybody when the dogs are off the
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leash --is and they're just like running
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around I agree with that the sort of the
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natural order of things can be done
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whereas if they're on a leash as well
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you know dogs can't run and move in the
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ways that they need to in sort of dog
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world and it's also like like when we're
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sort of training mr. chompers about how
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to be polite in his interactions with
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other dogs like because he's still a
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little bit too young we are keeping him
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on the leash but it's very clear to see
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that there's a way in which like if we
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don't notice that a dog is coming and he
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sort of jumps that the tugging of the
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leash will like amp him up whereas if
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you just have him sit down and sort of
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put him into sitting position then he's
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very calm and everything's fine but it's
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like the leash can aggravate some dog
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behavior but anyway all of this is to
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say when you're in the park and dogs are
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not on leashes and this is just the way
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they are dogs they don't care at all
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about humans right they're too busy
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doing their own dog affairs you know
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they're up to whatever they are up to
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yeah and in in the years that I have
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lived in London and the years that my
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wife and I have walked through the local
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park we can count on one hand the number
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of times a dog has come up to us to say
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hello and almost always it has been a
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little puppy dog right yeah but now that
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we are walking a little puppy dog all
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the dogs come up to us right so it's
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like I am getting to meet all of the
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neighborhood dogs and it feels like I
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have this subjective feeling like there
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are 10 times as many dogs in the city as
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there ever have been of course the
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number hasn't changed but I'm just
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supremely aware of all of them and it's
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like everywhere I go I'm walking little
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mr. chompers and like oh and we're
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meeting all of these other dogs it's
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like oh hello how are you right and you
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like find out the dog's name and doing
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little chit chats with them so it's like
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I live in a completely different city
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when I go out walking with mr. chompers
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it is a city that is filled with dogs
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who want to interact in a way that they
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just never did before so it's it's like
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a whole new world for me I bet you're
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like made to where you just the humans
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are almost don't exist - I always have
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conversations with my wife and she'll be
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like ah did you see you know Jenny at
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the park and I'm like Jenny who who the
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heck's Jenny and sugar you know the one
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with the white dog with the fluffy
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oh yeah I know that dog yeah yeah I had
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no idea who the person is it's all like
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dogs with like just a human attach that
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you're vaguely aware of it's like the
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human is just the metadata for the dog
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like that y'all can interrogate what's
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the dog's name
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how old is everything and like okay
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you've given me the information I need
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let's get back to the dogs 100% and what
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I absolutely love is that it seems like
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everybody has this agreed-upon social
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convention so you're exchanging dog
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names but no joke in the last week I
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probably met a hundred dogs right how
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many of those humans have told me their
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name zero right how many of those demons
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do I want to know their name zero right
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how many of those humans have I told my
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name to zero how many of those humans
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have we had a little conversation about
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Oh what do you do for work right none of
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them it is the best human interaction
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that there can possibly be yeah and
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talking about the dogs
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I find myself genuinely interested in
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every one of these conversations where
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we're talking about like their dogs
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funny little habits with whatever this
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thing is they're like we're meeting some
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dogs what what's his favorite toy how
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does he do things how long has he been
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in the park who are his doggy friends
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right yeah like mr. chompers got invited
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to a doggy Christmas party as like oh
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this is fantastic right like everything
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is great here so I'm absolutely 100%
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enjoying this alternate universe London
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where I get to meet dogs and I also feel
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really bad because I'm terrible at
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remembering human names but now I feel
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like I walked through the park I know
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all the dog's names right like I
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recognize every single one of them like
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Otto who that dog is right ever met that
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dog a few times before it's just such a
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funny different experience that has
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completely changed a local environment
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for us we have an extra weird scenario
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where we have a dog walker who sometimes
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walks Audrey and Lulu when mm-hmm we're
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away or were too busy and things like
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that and that person walks lots of dogs
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and goes to lots of other different
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places around where we live so Audrey
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and Lulu know all these other dogs that
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we don't know and meet all these other
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people that we don't know and sometimes
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we'll be out walking and we'll come
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across someone and a dog who we've never
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met before and we'll go to introduce
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ourselves but they will already know
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everything the dogs will be wagging
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their tails and the owners will say oh
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yeah we know Audrey and Lulu like you
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know we've met the
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loads of times and my wife oh okay well
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at the pariahs that no one knows but our
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dogs are like famous I am in that
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position though right because mr.
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chompers is not my dog and twice now
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I've had someone else recognize they go
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oh that's mr. chompers right hey and so
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the like these dogs have already met at
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some point right and I haven't been
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around and it's a very funny situation
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I'm not quite sure how to describe my
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relationship to mr. chompers it's like
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we are some neighbors who talked our way
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into looking after this adorable puppy I
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haven't quite figured out like what is
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the condensed way to describe this
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situation you're an unpaid professional
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that's essentially what it is right yeah
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it is funny sometimes to run into the
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professional dog walkers who will have
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it have a pack of like ten dogs and
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sometimes some of them will know mr.
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chompers and they'll be a little a
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little stop and a little talk and it
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does through the course of the
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conversation I can see the other person
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realizes like okay so you're just
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walking somebody else's dog for free or
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you scab exactly like you're
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undercutting the market here you jerk
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like what are you doing let me get that
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straight this is not your dog you're
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just walking him for free yep that's
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what I'm doing okay I have a question
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for you there braiding and I'm curious
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the answer this question because I have
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a feeling like maybe this is the thing
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I'm going to run into more in London
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when you talk about the human as
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dispensing the metadata that is related
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to the dog hmm how often does the human
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tell you the dog's Instagram account I'm
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about to be shamed here I can feel it
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because I have been known to mention
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Audrey's Instagram account right right
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no how do you does have an Instagram
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account I'm not trying to shame you I'm
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just I guess because your dog does have
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an Instagram account how many times has
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somebody ever mentioned to you first
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it's never come the other way no one's
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ever told me that but I'm not in London
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which is a bit more Posey you know I'm
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in a less Posey place so it's a lot less
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likely that a dog will have an Instagram
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account where I live than where you live
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so I'm the flash get
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we can't and a Facebook page but it's
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never come the other way for me and to
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be fair you are like an Internet person
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right who makes a living at this so yeah
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for you the the additional marginal
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effort to be running an Instagram
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account for your dog is not as high as
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it would be for somebody else who isn't
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making a living on the internet all day
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long doing this stuff anyway thank you I
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legitimately do give you a total pass on
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this adorable Audrey by the way terrible
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anniversary don't check it out how many
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followers does she have an Instagram on
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Instagram that's a good question my wife
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actually runs the Instagram account
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noticing which annoys our no end because
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people always leave comments saying nice
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one brady i run the facebook page okay
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that's the division of labor here
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she has 5,000 followers okay so she's
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not mega apparently it's it's 10,000
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before people will even consider doing
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brand deals with you so she's a long way
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from even getting brand deals on
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instagram she's not an influencer
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because i I was recently with some
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Instagram influencers and they told me
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10,000 is when you can start to be
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considered an influencer on Instagram
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let's put a pin in that and come back to
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that because I want to return to this
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idea of Instagram influencers but in the
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meantime this is a thing that did catch
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me completely off-guard because it
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doesn't happen a ton but it happens
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enough I feel like I'm getting a sense
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in advance when I'm meeting a dog that
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I'm going to be told an Instagram
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account yeah I feel like there's a type
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of person who has a dog Instagram
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account thanks and you are far outside
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of that realm but it does catch me off
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guard because I'll meet a dog and the
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owner will say something like oh yes hi
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this is princess Anastasia
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she has 9,000 followers on Instagram
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like it's like item number two like like
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they're canvassing for the dog in the
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park I never really expected this like
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in retrospect I guess it makes sense but
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I find it funny that there is a a
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significant enough like social media
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presence for dogs
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in the local park in London for some
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reason I cannot quite get over that and
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I'm not sure how to react to it
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but without a doubt I think it is very
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much biased towards fancier looking dogs
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dogs that look fancy and fluffy they are
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way more likely to have Instagram
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accounts I have yet to meet a Rottweiler
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with an Instagram account but I have met
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a significant number of fluffy or
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beautiful purebred dogs with Instagram
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accounts well that's to be expected
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isn't no idea I mean maybe they're just
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the ones that are successful on
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Instagram so that's why their owners are
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out there plugging their dogs does mr.
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chompers have an Instagram I don't know
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if he has a real life Instagram I don't
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think he does right I haven't asked it
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could be a whole other aspect to mr.
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Trump is life you don't know about well
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I mean but there are many aspects to mr.
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chompers life that I don't know about
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mr. chompers life I wonder from his
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perspective what is it like because he
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spends I'm on holiday and I was thinking
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what are orginially doing right now what
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do I think of their holiday home how do
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they see things how do they think I
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always wonder how dogs think I would pay
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a considerable amount of money just to
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be able to read my dog's minds I just
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want to know what they think drives me
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crazy that I'll never know and I know
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they're animals and I know animals are
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animals and they don't think like us but
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I just wish I knew more about their
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okay people say that thing right oh it's
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an animal's an animal and like don't
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anthropomorphize the animals and it's
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like I get where you're coming from
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but I really do think that dogs are an
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exception to this like there is no
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species that has co-evolved with humans
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over a longer period of time that has
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also Co evolved in a way that is
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beneficial to the survival of both of
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the species like I think if any creature
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is able to think like humans like dogs
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have to be at the top of that list aside
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from the things that are they basically
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like genetically us hmm so I'm perfectly
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fine with anthropomorphizing the dog and
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thinking that the dog has things in its
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head that we could recognize as feelings
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or emotional states I hope
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true like a thing that has happened with
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mr. chompers is that he's gotten it stop
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laughing baby I don't know what you mean
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I'm that guy I'm like you
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we're having a podcast here we need to
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talk about things and I want to talk
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about mr. chompers I'm really
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comfortable in that seat because I kept
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talking about mr. chomp reserved all day
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long I I feels like you already have
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that hurts Brady that hurts real deep
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mr. chompers Audrey playdate we do we do
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have to organize that if you actually
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have people taking planes to visit me
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and they're making sure that they're
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scheduling it on mr. chompers days
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because people wanted mr. chopper
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they're like oh it's great to come and
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see you but I want to make sure I'm
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there on a choppers day I don't want to
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come on an on chompers day that's no
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good you're clearly a more sociable
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creature when mr. chompers is involved
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we've established that already you're
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far more chatty and personable again
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it's the positive mood buffs from dog
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that's what's having I think it's for
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love yeah it's the love who doesn't know
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everybody loves doggies except monitors
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we've established before monitors don't
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love dogs I think even monsters love
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dogs a little bit Hitler had a dog I'm
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sure he loved that dog you know hey Dad
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what was a cone was called was it called
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Susie his dog it had some funny name I
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think it was blondie blondie that's it I
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feel like this is like a pub trivia
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question I think it was boy yeah I don't
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know okay in my head I'm just assuming
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it was the German Shepherd I have no
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idea you know it might have been like a
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yorkie poo I don't know if I was existed
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at the time but I think he'll there
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probably had a meaner looking dog blondi
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HESA has their own Wikipedia page oh is
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it blondie was I right about that you
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were right but just blondie with an eye
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on the end does it like it was a German
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Shepherd it was a German Shepherd
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blondie with an eye oh god that's
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embarrassing as a puppy Hitler was
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reportedly very fond of blondie keeping
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her by his side and allowing her to
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sleep in his bed in the bunker I say I
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don't agree with that
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I don't agree with that behavior he
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shouldn't let the dog in your bed yeah
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oh that's the other thing like that I
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wanted to mention here which I find
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myself doing this thing which is
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becoming very judgmental of the way
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other people interact with the dogs
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right yeah it's like 100% this parental
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kind of thing of like oh I don't think
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you've you've raised your dog very well
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or like oh you think you're a dog person
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but you're not really a dog person
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you don't know how I can just I can see
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what you and your wife are like you're
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these people who think they're like the
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authority on like dog rearing and like
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it's your way or the highway
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now I don't agree with that at all like
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that like there are many different ways
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to do it but I just think there's like
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I'll give an example it's just that all
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the other wise are wrong I'm gonna back
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this up right I'm gonna bring up the
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thing which is like the slightly
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controversial thing which is against
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Cesar Millan this is the Tavey dog
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training guy for people who yeah yes I
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he's a TV dog training guy yeah now when
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you say like it's our way or it's
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nothing like I think I really disagree
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with that because mm-hmm
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like what we haven't done with mr.
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chompers hardly at all as things like
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tricks right teaching him to sit
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teaching him to lay down doing that kind
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of stuff right that's a very particular
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kind of training that he's still a
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little young for anyway and like there
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are a bunch of different ways that you
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can try to do that they're all based off
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a positive reinforcement but like there
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are very many ways that you can do stuff
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when I'm talking about like a judgmental
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thing what I mean is and what I think is
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like the Cesar Millan kind of
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controversy is this idea about like what
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is your emotional state when you're
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interacting with a dog I think that's
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the thing that he tries to convey with
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his methods of dogs like he's never
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really talking about how to get your dog
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to roll over right or how to do specific
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behaviors he's talking about like this
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meta thing about how do you interact
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with the dog and I think there's just a
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really really key skill that some people
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have and some people don't I'll give you
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an example like what am i judgemental
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loud mr. chompers was out in the park
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and this little kid came up to mr.
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chompers this adorable tiny tot she came
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up to mr. chompers and she wanted to
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interact with him and we said okay right
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we're socializing him
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mm-hm and she was great because she
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looked at us she looked at us the owners
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from her perspective of the dog and said
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is he a biting dog right like yeah she's
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like oh kid I love you already right you
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have the concepts that some little dogs
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are gonna be biting dogs right like yeah
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you're so far ahead and so I'm looking
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at this kid in like okay great I like
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you already kid and said oh yeah so go
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ahead you can interact with mr. chompers
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and I was also looking at her because
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she was covered head-to-toe in an
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adorable kid puffy snow outfit that
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obstructed her movement like she had
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immunity to accidental piercing damage
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like there is no way that even if mr.
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chompers were to bite that he would do
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any damage to this kid and he's gotten a
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million times better about this so he
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doesn't bite very much at all and so
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like mr. chompers in this little kid
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they had a nice little interaction right
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she was squealing with joy and playing
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around like oh great this is perfect
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yeah and then we walk on not five
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minutes later we run into a guy who's
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like oh can i interact with mr. chompers
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and he does the thing which some people
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who own dogs do the thing where when
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they interact with the dog
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they're like riling the dog up there's
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like a play style where you're making
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the dog more excited which then brings
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out bad behaviors in the dog alright and
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so this guy was wearing gloves and he
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immediately starts like kind of
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roughhousing with mr. chompers head and
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so I can see like mr. chompers is
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getting excited and then mr. chompers
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grabs on to the glove and the guy starts
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playing like a fun tug-of-war game now
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with mr. chompers and it's like her and
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then he starts growling it's like oh no
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dude like that's the thing that I mean
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that I'm judgmental about is like this
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very clear thing about bringing the
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energy up or bringing the energy down
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and it's like hey buddy we met like a
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two and a half year old kid who was a
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million times better with dogs than you
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two seconds ago like you just don't know
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how to do it and then sure enough he's
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talking about like he owns a dog and his
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dog is a total terror and all the
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begging I was like of course your dog's
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a total terror like if you're
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interacting with this dog this way like
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you must be doing this with your dog at
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home so like you're the fault here not
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the dog I'm basically making like a
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parental complaint about people who
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don't know how to handle dogs but like
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that's a very very separate thing from
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how do you have a show when
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dog who can do a bunch of great tricks
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like on command like that's not the
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skill that I'm talking about I'm just
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talking about a more general skill that
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I think is super important but that I
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can see a bunch of people who have dogs
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they just don't think about like they
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amp up dogs when they don't mean to
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anyway this is me being a big mr.
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chompers parents do you know how blondie
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died I have no idea how blondie died
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they tested a cyanide capsule that
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Hitler thought might not work properly
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on the dog so they gave a cyanide
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capsule to the dog and killed it of
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poisoning and then apparently Hitler
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became inconsolable after he ordered the
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dog be given the cyanide pill well I
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don't think Hitler was in a in a proper
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state of mind I didn't think you would
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have approved of Hitler's don't rearing
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skills they're giving sign-out pills to
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the dog no two thumbs down two thumbs
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down to Hitler dog raising skill that's
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individuals or businesses so I've got a
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bit of feedback from previous episodes
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there's a few little tidbits to deal
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with can I first just say let me do this
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one first because this is something
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that's been a long time in the making
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hello Internet medals of honor mmm now
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they have been struck there's a few of
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them here in my office there's a few
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more in the my famous storage unit
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mm-hmm the first one or two are about to
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be engraved news will follow in due
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course but I just want people to know
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because a few people including my
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co-host I think have been a bit
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skeptical about whether I'd get them
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made now they have been made I've never
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expressed skepticism about this pretty
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well they're there they're done I posted
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a picture to our patreon quite a while
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ago so patrons probably have already
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seen a picture of the medal but we'll
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share some more pictures soon in due
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course but I just wanted it to be out
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there I want people to know you want to
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get it on the register this is a real
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thing I won on the record but I don't
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want people to try and win them these
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things are just given out as they're
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given and don't try and do anything
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to win one I don't want like someone you
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know standing on top of the Burj Khalifa
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on one leg doing a base jump with a
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Hello Internet flag and they attempt to
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win one and we're not going to reward
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stupidity or rash activities
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he's an organic thing I feel like it's a
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bit of a mixed message though to have
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I agree great it is a mixed message but
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one thing I've found over the course of
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watching Tim egde unfold right is that
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wonderful things happen every week that
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warms our hearts mm-hmm but I also think
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sometimes people like don't have like a
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like they don't step outside themselves
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and think should I even be doing this
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like is this like a bad thing or a
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creepy thing or inappropriate I think
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people sometimes get a bit lost in the
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moment and don't step outside themselves
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and think about what they're doing and I
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don't move the existence of medals to
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exacerbate this problem it's interesting
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though because it hadn't really crossed
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my mind until this moment but I mean
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this there's nothing just with our show
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but it's it's a thing that happens
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anytime a group starts to form some
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identity mm-hmm is a question like what
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are the actions that are acceptable
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within that identity and yeah you're
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right I think there are people who can
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sometimes think they're doing something
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that's interesting and it's like oh no
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that's a terrible idea man but I don't
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think there's any effective way really
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to express that ahead of time yeah I
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guess yeah yeah other than to say
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something that is pointless and that is
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sometimes stop think about what you're
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doing right and think about what this
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would look like to other people yeah oh
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isn't that kind of stuff the problem is
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the people who would stop and think
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about what does this look like from the
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outside are not the people who would do
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those things right yeah it's like a
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dunning-kruger effect for actions in
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this way like of course the people who
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do things that are unacceptable or not
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the people who wonder if an activity is
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acceptable yeah but I guess so what
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you're saying here really is there is
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not going to be an escalating hierarchy
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of spectacle that these medals would be
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awarded for it's more yeah more like
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whimsy and good feeling yeah we're going
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for here then not something that should
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be sought and there's not like a bar
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that you must exceed to
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one right in fact doing too much will
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probably exclude you from ever receiving
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one cuz it will make me like you'll just
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freak me out a bit that is a big hard to
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express is the like well do too much it
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becomes really uncomfortable like nope
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nope I can't reward this action
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nah anyway I'm very glad that they're in
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existence and yeah we'll be updating the
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audience as time goes on yeah I have a
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quick link for you Brady mm-hmm which is
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going under the heading in my mind of
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the expansion of no fun zones the head
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light on this baby c-- news article
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you've sent me says Darby cordoned off
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Christmas tree and embarrassment this
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excites me a bit because this is from
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the area of England that I used to cover
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when I worked at the BBC so I could have
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been the person writing this article
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back in the day oh yeah it could have
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been your byline on this article well
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there is no byline or not but yeah I
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could have hoped that maybe a machine
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wrote it I just want to put this in in
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the show notes because someone passes
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along to me and it's picture of this
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Christmas tree that is like the saddest
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looking Christmas tree in the world not
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because that Christmas tree isn't
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magnificent but because as the headline
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says it's cordoned off by two concentric
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rings of gates to keep people away from
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the Christmas tree out of concerns about
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safety in case of foes on someone else
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yeah in case it falls at someone right
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and the official statement from the
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council is that the barriers are there
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to enable people to view the tree at a
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safe distance the tray looks like it's
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in prison who what the meeting was like
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we're gonna have some Christmas cheer
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okay but we're gonna we need to have
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some barriers around the tree for
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imagined safety and then on top of that
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our statement is going to be about how
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the barriers enable people to view the
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tree at a safe distance like without the
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barriers people being able to view the
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tree at a safe distance wouldn't it be
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possible that the barriers are simply
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enabling this thing to occur it's just
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awful and it just made me sad and I
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think it's an example of a no-fun zone
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elsewhere in the world it's like
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take a place and make sure like Oh
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Christmas fun in the town center no
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there's no fun that's going to happen
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here you're gonna view a tree at an
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appropriate distance and you're gonna
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it's pretty terrible it looks pretty
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terrible it's not a good look
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yeah it's very sad so no fun zones
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spreading across the world it's funny
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cuz I think of you sometimes as a person
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who would like like safety you know
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you're like a cautious guy I know what
00:31:33
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you're saying and it's like there was a
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science fiction series called Ringworld
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and had an alien species called the I
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think was Pearson's puppeteers but the
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recurring thing about these aliens which
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I just loved was the whole species
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evolved from herd animals from prey
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animals and so they were obsessed with
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safety and the interiors of all their
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spaceships had no sharp corners right
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like basically in case they were falling
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like they wanted to make sure they fell
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on a safe rounded corner and it's like I
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had a lot of sympathy for those aliens
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like yeah you know why not be safe the
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thing that bothers me is what I view
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this as is like a kind of fake safety
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I'm all in favor of more safety right
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the sooner we can get humans off the
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road that's great the sooner we can stop
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people throwing coins into airplanes
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that's even better
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I'm all for real safety but this kind of
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like keep people away from a Christmas
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tree safety is a thing that drives me
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that's like security theater at the
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airport it's no real benefit and I think
00:32:33
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it causes real harm and it causes real
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harm in the name of a thing that I do
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want more of so I think that's why I
00:32:40
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like it this stuff hits me particularly
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hard and in a very frustrating way it's
00:32:45
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giving safety a bad name it is Brady it
00:32:47
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is giving safety a bad name that's
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exactly right
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having just dissed the Tim's a minute
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ago can I now take a moment to thank
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them immensely for taking up the call to
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arms from the last episode and
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subscribing to my periodic videos
00:33:03
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YouTube channel so that we could reach a
00:33:05
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million subscribers before Sir Martin's
00:33:08
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birthday congratulations on that well
00:33:11
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congratulations to the Tim's who helped
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push us over the top
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really appreciate it and we did get
00:33:15
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there before the professor's birthday so
00:33:17
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that was that made him really happy I
00:33:19
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just wanted to also point out
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you may have seen if you follow like you
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know twittery stuff and all that I
00:33:26
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posted a picture of the professor
00:33:28
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holding a piece of paper saying you know
00:33:31
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periodic table of videos 1 million
00:33:33
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thanks Timms and he's like you know he
00:33:35
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printed it out and he's holding it up in
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one of those weird pictures that people
00:33:38
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post where they like you know hold a
00:33:40
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message to prove that the message is
00:33:42
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from them right yeah
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can I just say I had absolutely nothing
00:33:45
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to do with this I didn't know he was
00:33:48
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doing it I didn't ask him to do it he
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just emailed me and said I look I made
00:33:51
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this picture so you know that was truly
00:33:53
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from his heart mm-hmm but the
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interesting thing to me was how did he
00:33:56
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know like he saw the spike in
00:33:59
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subscribers and I said oh I mentioned it
00:34:01
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on the podcast and he was like oh that's
00:34:03
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great thank you but how did he know what
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Tim's were so I spoke to him on the
00:34:08
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phone today and he told me that he
00:34:10
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received a birthday card from someone I
00:34:12
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can't remember the person's name and
00:34:14
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they said dear professor Pepe birthday
00:34:16
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from whatever the person's name was and
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then they put in brackets I'm a Tim and
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then they wrote a few sentences
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underneath explaining what a Tim was on
00:34:28
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his birthday cut you know but listen to
00:34:30
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you know Tim's of what we call people
00:34:31
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who listen to the podcast and things
00:34:33
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like that that's a very thorough Tim
00:34:34
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message it was and that's how the
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professor knew what Tim was and what
00:34:38
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gave him the idea to make me slinky
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Martin then asked me why are they called
00:34:42
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Tim's I find that one of the more
00:34:45
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difficult questions to answer about my
00:34:47
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work why people who's like I know the
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answer but it's just really hard to
00:34:52
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explain in a pithy way that makes sense
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there's no pithy way about it yeah I
00:34:57
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think it's one of my favorite examples
00:35:01
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of an Internet community selecting in
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its own name like this is a thing that
00:35:07
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very much happened on its own and a
00:35:11
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little bit of pulling back the curtain
00:35:13
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here was when this first started I was
00:35:17
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not a fan of the audience having a
00:35:21
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particular name I put on record before
00:35:23
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like I don't really necessarily like the
00:35:25
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ideas of Internet communities and and
00:35:27
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the names like this is a thing that I
00:35:29
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once tried to do in my youtube channel
00:35:31
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and then immediately regret it and never
00:35:32
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referenced again and so there's a period
00:35:35
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of time and the
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show where I was really trying to talk
00:35:38
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around the concept of Tim's or not
00:35:41
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encouraged this at all hmm but it became
00:35:43
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so clear that this is a thing that the
00:35:45
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community was just embracing and loving
00:35:47
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it eventually completely changed my mind
00:35:50
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on it because like this is so clearly
00:35:51
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something that everybody loves and it's
00:35:54
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fun like I'm just I'm changing my mind
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on this and I'm going along with it but
00:35:58
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it's like it is really a thing that took
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off on its own especially at the
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beginning zero encouragement on my part
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the community did pick this for
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themselves I agree
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Bassam congratulations to periodic
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videos for reaching 1 million what are
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you gonna do with yet another golden
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play button that's a good question
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where is it going I mean my thinking was
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I was always going to give it to the
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chemistry department at the University
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of Nottingham but I can't like the idea
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of having one cuz I haven't got my
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number fire one you don't have any of
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the gold ones in your house this is only
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my second go I've got a boatload of
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silver I don't have a boatload of
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Silver's but in my head I still feel
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like you have if not a boatload a bucket
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load of gold play buttons this is I need
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a second computer file should get one
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same okay so yeah you're you quickly are
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approaching a bucket load of gold play
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buttons and I wouldn't say that but
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anyway I don't know I'll see what
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happens I'll see what happens
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did I tell you about my trade sixty
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symbols one like a medal from the
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Institute of Physics and it was a really
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cool medal and like we want it as a
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group and after the midnight when we got
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given the medal it was just taken home
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by someone at the University and I don't
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I'd never won anything for physics and I
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really liked the medal and I quite liked
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the idea of having it in my office
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mm-hmm but you know I didn't have any
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more right to say I should have in my
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office than they did but what I did have
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was the sixty symbols silver button
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mm-hmm so I was able to go into the
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University a few weeks later with the
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silver button and like try and come up
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with a trade and it was really like
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those complicated baseball trades where
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you trade two players and an amount of
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money and all this sort of stuff like we
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were coming up with the trade like you
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can have the silver button and I'll have
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the medal but you can have the
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certificate that came with the medal if
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we were coming up with this whole
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elaborate deal over who got what just
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one of this metal right you're trying to
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Moneyball your way to the getting this
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metal in your in your office that's
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what's happening but it was a rude like
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it was a real negotiation and the
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professor I was negotiating with said oh
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I don't think I can make this decision
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on my own and called in like another
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professor and like there was like this
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big conversation it was quite fun
00:38:05
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actually did did you get it in the end
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this is in your office right now I did
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get the middle like like it's still
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joint custody like everything is but I'm
00:38:13
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the one who gets to look at it and I
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don't look at it quite like it it's a
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nice medal it's that Kelvin medal
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I'll right right of course yeah that's
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right that's right all the medals in
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Brady's office if you make stuff like
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videos or podcasts or pretty much
00:38:29
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anything else sometimes you need more
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that's where video blocks saves your
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bacon video blocks is a huge library of
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or worst of all free booted material
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podcast so you're back from Australia
00:40:42
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Brady just a couple days ago right you I
00:40:44
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am just recently back yes I won't win
00:40:47
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over for various reasons to do with work
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and to do with family and friends mm-hmm
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but the main reason and the main thing I
00:40:54
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was going over for the main impetus was
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because I wanted to watch the Ashes Test
00:40:58
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match between Australia and England at
00:41:00
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the Adelaide Oval which I was very
00:41:03
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excited about question I'm going to do
00:41:05
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this right from the start only one
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question yeah I know the ashes the ashes
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of the burnt up wicked yeah that the two
00:41:13
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countries trade back and forth that the
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yep whoever wins they hold on to the
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ashes there's a small little urn with
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the ashes of a piece of cricket
00:41:20
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equipment from back in the day yes
00:41:23
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that's correct
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right when you say Test match though
00:41:26
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that makes it sound like it's not the
00:41:30
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actual matches for the ashes it's a
00:41:33
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preparation for the ashes no that's not
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what it means
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okay what is like the Test match just
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through me that sounds like it's a test
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yeah in my head reads it like the
00:41:44
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semi-finals for the ashes like I'm just
00:41:46
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a bit confused by what that word by but
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I think test in this context you should
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think of as a test of your skill okay a
00:41:54
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test of how good you are there are
00:41:55
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different forms of cricket that can be
00:41:58
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played that have different durations and
00:42:00
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have slightly different roles but the
00:42:02
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pinnacle of the game the ultimate form
00:42:04
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of cricket is considered this five day
00:42:07
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game which is called a test match okay
00:42:09
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and a contest for the ashes they play
00:42:12
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five consecutive Test matches in two
00:42:15
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in cities and whoever wins the most of
00:42:18
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those test matches will be the winner
00:42:20
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so as we speak now which will be out of
00:42:23
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date by the time this is published the
00:42:24
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first two test matches were won by
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Australia as Australia is leading the
00:42:29
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series to nil if they win the third one
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does it just stop because they get three
00:42:33
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out of five no they will have won the
00:42:35
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series but they will continue playing
00:42:37
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the other two Test matches Test matches
00:42:39
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are so important and significant that
00:42:43
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the fact that they're kind of dead
00:42:45
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rubbers doesn't mean you wouldn't play
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them there's still a lot of kudos and a
00:42:48
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lot of interest it's not like baseball
00:42:50
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like at the World Series where they'll
00:42:51
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just not play the other games a Test
00:42:53
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match is a big deal but what can
00:42:55
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possibly be the big deal in a game when
00:42:57
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we already know who's going to get the
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ashes I don't understand like what
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happens winning a Test match is still a
00:43:02
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very prestigious thing and it's also
00:43:04
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very important to the players it is less
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interesting I'll give you that there is
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less stake there are literally no ashes
00:43:11
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at stake the ashes will no longer be at
00:43:13
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stake if series has already been decided
00:43:15
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this is true but there is a big
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difference between like you know winning
00:43:19
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a series five kneel or three to like a
00:43:21
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five kneel whitewash is very rare and
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something that people have a lot of
00:43:26
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interest in players still have to
00:43:27
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aggregate their stats their batting
00:43:29
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averages or whatever this is also a very
00:43:32
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important thing in cricket and if you
00:43:33
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watch the second most recent numberphile
00:43:36
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video that I made over in Australia it
00:43:38
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is all about a really interesting story
00:43:40
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to do with cricket averages and
00:43:42
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statistics in fact I would like you to
00:43:44
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watch that video it was the first
00:43:45
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cricket video I have ever made and it's
00:43:47
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supposed to I hope be kind of
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understandable in some way to a non
00:43:53
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cricket fan so they can come away from
00:43:54
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it and think okay I get why that's a big
00:43:57
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duty even though I don't understand your
00:43:59
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silly sport you want me to be your test
00:44:01
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subject for the person who knows nothing
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about cricket oh I mean it's too late
00:44:04
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for that I've won you released it but I
00:44:06
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would like you to watch it I'd be
00:44:07
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curious to hear what you think of it but
00:44:09
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I feel like I know a lot about cricket I
00:44:10
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know about the ashes yeah I know about
00:44:14
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the running back and forth no nothing I
00:44:23
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know what it looks like on TV oh god
00:44:25
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I've got nothing I can't even fake it so
00:44:29
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another thing I would dearly love to
00:44:31
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talk about with you but I can't because
00:44:33
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you just have so little knowledge and
00:44:35
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little interest is the new Adelaide Oval
00:44:37
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it's a such a big deal in Adelaide
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because Adelaide was famous for having
00:44:41
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this really old-fashioned cricket ground
00:44:43
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because this is like a new stadium is
00:44:45
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that what you're talking about
00:44:46
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basically they've replaced this
00:44:47
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old-fashioned quaint ground that was
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famous the world over for its beauty and
00:44:51
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looking like us from another time right
00:44:54
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with this new super space-age modern
00:44:56
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stadium right forgettable it sounds like
00:44:58
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well it's been very good for Adelaide
00:45:01
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and Adelaide people love it and they
00:45:03
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love talking about it and all they want
00:45:06
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to talk about is how much do you love
00:45:07
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Adelaide Oval so and they kept asking me
00:45:09
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Oh Brady this is your first time at
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Adelaide over what do you think of it
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isn't it magnificent and you can imagine
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me being you know a bit of a
00:45:16
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traditionalist I quite like the old one
00:45:18
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and I'm sad it's gone cuz I don't
00:45:20
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benefit week on week from having this
00:45:22
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great stadium I just feel sad about the
00:45:24
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lovely old one that's gone whereas the
00:45:26
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people who live in Adelaide really
00:45:27
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benefit from having such a magnificent
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Stadium so they liked it it was a big
00:45:31
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talking point throughout my whole
00:45:32
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holiday did the old one look good on TV
00:45:35
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that could you tell it was the Adelaide
00:45:37
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Oval yes the old one was really
00:45:39
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distinctive and it was like a place
00:45:41
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people dreamed of going to watch cricket
00:45:43
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one day like every cricket fan in the
00:45:45
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world would say I would love to go to
00:45:47
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the Adelaide over one day and watch a
00:45:49
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game of cricket and now it is like lots
00:45:54
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of other really good modern stadiums
00:45:55
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yeah it just looks like a modern stadium
00:45:58
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like it don't look like anything in
00:45:59
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particular you can't say that to
00:46:00
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Adelaide people that they will have a
00:46:02
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series of comebacks to that ok I'm
00:46:04
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talking to you and leave people yeah
00:46:05
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right now your oval looks like a totally
00:46:08
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forgettable Stadium there you go yeah
00:46:10
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►
enjoy that I'm gonna hit lots of things
00:46:11
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►
about scoreboards and churches now but
00:46:13
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anyway oh boy I can't wait can't wait to
00:46:15
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set up a new mute filter on Twitter if
00:46:19
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you google old Adelaide Oval if you look
00:46:21
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carefully you might notice a certain
00:46:23
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building in the background as well oh
00:46:24
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yes yeah that's like I can see a certain
00:46:27
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building in the background of that photo
00:46:29
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we'll come to that in a minute though
00:46:30
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okay I didn't imagine that you took a
00:46:32
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trip to Australia and we're not going to
00:46:34
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hear about a certain building but we'll
00:46:36
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get to that in a second in that 2006
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picture you just sent me that white part
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on the right is new and the part on the
00:46:42
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left is that all
00:46:43
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yeah okay I asked about it looking does
00:46:45
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it look distinctive on TV because I
00:46:47
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think that's the trade-off here right is
00:46:50
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yeah a thing that looks distinctive on
00:46:54
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television is actually like a real
00:46:57
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advantage to any place and like this one
00:47:02
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those things it's hard to pin down what
00:47:03
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exactly is the value of that but having
00:47:06
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something that is iconic is valuable to
00:47:08
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all of the people who don't live in the
00:47:10
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►
place yeah but the problem is what
00:47:12
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they've created now even I have to
00:47:14
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concede is such a great amenity for the
00:47:17
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people of Adelaide it's right next to
00:47:18
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the city centre it now holds you know
00:47:21
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three times more people it's really
00:47:23
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modern and easy to use because it's so
00:47:25
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big they can now play Australian
00:47:27
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►
football in the stadium which they
00:47:28
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couldn't before
00:47:29
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which Adelaide people love so now you
00:47:32
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►
can play Australian football right near
00:47:34
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►
the city centre instead of out in a
00:47:35
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distant location so it's brilliant for
00:47:38
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the people of Adelaide it was the right
00:47:40
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decision good on you for having such a
00:47:42
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good useful Stadium they've preserved
00:47:45
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some aspects of what was special about
00:47:46
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that oval before not as many as I'd like
00:47:48
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people think mm-hmm they no longer have
00:47:50
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that thing that you'll see on TV though
00:47:52
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and your heart will ache and you'll say
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I need to go to that place one day it's
00:47:56
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no longer really distinctive and I'm sad
00:48:00
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to lose that but hey I'm just some guy
00:48:02
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who lives in England who maybe goes
00:48:04
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there once every few years I'm more on
00:48:06
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your side than you might expect with
00:48:07
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this because they think that this is a
00:48:09
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kind of shaming of the world it's like
00:48:12
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oh yeah of course like the new one is
00:48:14
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much better it's better because it's
00:48:17
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removed a bunch of distinct features and
00:48:19
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it's gone for the features that are the
00:48:21
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things that would in any city make a
00:48:23
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stadium better and those number of
00:48:26
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things are not infinite in all
00:48:28
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directions there's a subset of things
00:48:30
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that it's always going to make sense
00:48:31
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like oh here's what you would want for a
00:48:33
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perfect stadium in a city that all of
00:48:35
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the locals would agree is a perfect
00:48:38
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stadium and that goes for just about
00:48:39
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anything but I do think there is some
00:48:42
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intangible loss by not having something
00:48:46
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that is iconic for a particular location
00:48:49
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but it doesn't change the fact that were
00:48:51
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I to live in Adelaide and were I to love
00:48:53
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cricket I too would almost certainly be
00:48:55
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wanting a much better Stadium
00:48:57
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me to actually go to every time I want
00:48:59
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to trick it anyway I did meet a few
00:49:01
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Tim's at the Adelaide Oval two of whom
00:49:03
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were wearing hello Internet hoodies this
00:49:06
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was quite nice so the new hello Internet
00:49:08
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hoodies are making their way out into
00:49:09
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the world they are they are they've made
00:49:10
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it all the way to Adelaide met a few
00:49:12
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people at the game which was nice did a
00:49:14
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few selfies got me a lot of street
00:49:16
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credibility with my friends I was at the
00:49:18
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cricket with when people were coming up
00:49:19
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and having a photo taken oh wow we
00:49:23
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didn't realize it was such a big deal
00:49:24
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that's fantastic I didn't think about
00:49:28
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that but you feel like you're going back
00:49:30
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home and your big man on campus you're
00:49:32
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like oh yeah everybody loves me I was
00:49:37
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always with a big group of like 10 guys
00:49:39
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and I didn't know many of them and I was
00:49:42
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just some dude so we were just sitting
00:49:43
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watching the cricket and stuff so then
00:49:45
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when people came up and said hello and
00:49:46
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we're having pictures with Ray suddenly
00:49:48
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like looked at me in a new way they were
00:49:50
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like what do you do man actually do
00:49:52
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►
that's when it gets complicated and
00:49:55
◼
►
what's a Tim oh here we go again
00:49:58
◼
►
do you run through the whole story in
00:50:00
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that scenario I'm endlessly fascinated
00:50:02
◼
►
by this do you
00:50:03
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I don't now I just brush it off as
00:50:05
◼
►
quickly as possible so another
00:50:08
◼
►
interesting thing that happened around
00:50:10
◼
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the cricket though was there's a lot a
00:50:11
◼
►
lot of English people go because English
00:50:13
◼
►
cricket fans are big travellers so
00:50:14
◼
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wherever England are playing cricket you
00:50:16
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will find lots of English fans so I was
00:50:19
◼
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out and about in town a few times and at
00:50:20
◼
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restaurants and cafes and things like
00:50:22
◼
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that when the cricket wasn't on mm-hmm
00:50:24
◼
►
and a few times I was talking to people
00:50:26
◼
►
and they would say you know what's going
00:50:28
◼
►
on and that and I'd say ah I've come for
00:50:30
◼
►
the cricket I'm enjoying the cricket and
00:50:32
◼
►
because like England were not doing well
00:50:34
◼
►
at certain stages they would say to me
00:50:36
◼
►
oh don't worry I think things will get
00:50:37
◼
►
better for you guys maybe later
00:50:39
◼
►
and I realized everyone I spoke to
00:50:41
◼
►
thought I was English and all my friends
00:50:43
◼
►
were saying yeah you sound really
00:50:44
◼
►
English now I'm not I'm not here for
00:50:46
◼
►
Australia they're like ah we all thought
00:50:49
◼
►
you were in England fan who sound really
00:50:51
◼
►
English well I mean before I say
00:50:53
◼
►
anything how do you feel about that
00:50:54
◼
►
Brady because I think this is a
00:50:56
◼
►
complicated question for you I just
00:50:58
◼
►
don't think I sound English I'm not like
00:51:00
◼
►
upset by it if it happens it happens or
00:51:02
◼
►
if it's happened it's happened mm-hmm
00:51:03
◼
►
and it doesn't change my heart if you
00:51:05
◼
►
cut me I still bleed green and gold
00:51:08
◼
►
Australia right but
00:51:10
◼
►
it does surprise me because over here
00:51:12
◼
►
people will say ah I thought you might
00:51:15
◼
►
be from Australia when they talk to me
00:51:17
◼
►
so over here I stay on strands I'm
00:51:19
◼
►
obviously just in some middle ground
00:51:20
◼
►
obviously and you know some hybrid is
00:51:22
◼
►
your edge well trained enough to talk to
00:51:24
◼
►
me and think I sound like an Englishman
00:51:26
◼
►
or an Aussie I'll put it this way you
00:51:32
◼
►
have a very Brady accent you sound to me
00:51:35
◼
►
like a Brady you don't need to tread
00:51:38
◼
►
carefully here there's no no it's not
00:51:39
◼
►
that I'm trying to tread carefully it's
00:51:41
◼
►
just I think it's an interesting thing
00:51:42
◼
►
because one thing that I notice is if
00:51:46
◼
►
I'm talking to people who listen to the
00:51:48
◼
►
show like let's say that they're not
00:51:49
◼
►
careful listeners hmm overwhelmingly
00:51:51
◼
►
people think that you are British okay I
00:51:54
◼
►
would say almost exclusively if they
00:51:56
◼
►
don't know particular facts about you
00:51:57
◼
►
they just assume that you are British
00:51:58
◼
►
and I think that your accents the
00:52:02
◼
►
Australian assent has been greatly
00:52:06
◼
►
softened by your time over here I'm not
00:52:11
◼
►
surprised that what happens is when you
00:52:13
◼
►
go back to Australia people think that
00:52:16
◼
►
you are English like when I used to
00:52:18
◼
►
teach English kids all day I had this
00:52:21
◼
►
this same effect when I went to America
00:52:23
◼
►
and I went to places where people didn't
00:52:25
◼
►
know me there is no way an English
00:52:28
◼
►
person would confuse me for being an
00:52:30
◼
►
English person but an American person
00:52:32
◼
►
was just hearing something that's
00:52:34
◼
►
different and so then assuming
00:52:36
◼
►
foreignness and I think that's what's
00:52:38
◼
►
happening to you it's it's not like you
00:52:39
◼
►
sound like the Queen but they're hearing
00:52:42
◼
►
something that's different so they're
00:52:45
◼
►
assuming that you're not Australian and
00:52:48
◼
►
then the closest thing that you map onto
00:52:50
◼
►
is sounding English I think that would
00:52:53
◼
►
happen yeah I mean I have no doubt
00:52:55
◼
►
certain little things have changed but I
00:52:57
◼
►
would have thought not enough that an
00:52:59
◼
►
Australian would say oh look here's an
00:53:01
◼
►
English guy but I I hear what you're
00:53:02
◼
►
saying it makes sense when you describe
00:53:04
◼
►
it that way there's a slight little
00:53:05
◼
►
things that are throwing them and
00:53:06
◼
►
therefore they just saying must be a pom
00:53:08
◼
►
that must just be some English accent
00:53:10
◼
►
I've ever heard before you know this is
00:53:12
◼
►
the North East of England
00:53:13
◼
►
I just think humans are extraordinarily
00:53:16
◼
►
sensitive to in-group markers and so I
00:53:20
◼
►
think that's what's happening like you
00:53:21
◼
►
just say some things a little bit
00:53:23
◼
►
and that it immediately marks you as
00:53:26
◼
►
like out-group member so where is the
00:53:28
◼
►
place that this person is from I think
00:53:30
◼
►
that's all that's happening there okay
00:53:31
◼
►
so one of the things I did while I was
00:53:33
◼
►
over there was I took one of my bags of
00:53:36
◼
►
hello internet hot Stoppers and I found
00:53:41
◼
►
my way to that mighty building the
00:53:43
◼
►
Greenville Center the mighty black stump
00:53:46
◼
►
and I walked in and in like the lobby
00:53:49
◼
►
atrium there's a cafe which is recently
00:53:53
◼
►
under new management I learned and the
00:53:55
◼
►
new manager has changed the name of the
00:53:57
◼
►
cafe to black stump espresso which I
00:54:03
◼
►
think also is is vindication for anyone
00:54:06
◼
►
who says no one ever calls that building
00:54:08
◼
►
the black stump because sometimes I hear
00:54:10
◼
►
that like people say oh I spoke to my
00:54:12
◼
►
friend from Adelaide they've never heard
00:54:13
◼
►
of the black stump or it's not called
00:54:14
◼
►
the black stump so vindication I say you
00:54:17
◼
►
know what's gonna happen Brady though is
00:54:18
◼
►
that people are going to start saying I
00:54:20
◼
►
think you're just confusing it with the
00:54:21
◼
►
coffee place that's inside that building
00:54:25
◼
►
anyway I went up to the owner it was
00:54:27
◼
►
just before opening time and I said look
00:54:29
◼
►
and know this is gonna sound a bit weird
00:54:31
◼
►
but I told him my story and I said would
00:54:35
◼
►
he be willing to stock at no charge to
00:54:37
◼
►
him hello internet hot Stoppers and be
00:54:40
◼
►
the sole stockist of hello internet hot
00:54:44
◼
►
stoppers because I first of all I said
00:54:45
◼
►
or can I see your coffee cups and a
00:54:47
◼
►
plastic lid she put on I check that I
00:54:49
◼
►
fit and everything and they did and I
00:54:51
◼
►
said here you go do you want to do it
00:54:53
◼
►
and he was like all right so I said you
00:54:56
◼
►
don't have to leave them out you can
00:54:57
◼
►
just have them hidden behind the counter
00:54:59
◼
►
but if any socially awkward nerdy person
00:55:01
◼
►
ever comes up and says hi do you have
00:55:04
◼
►
any hot stoppers
00:55:07
◼
►
I love the whole premise of this right
00:55:09
◼
►
because it's not I'll leave them out for
00:55:11
◼
►
promotional purposes it's people will
00:55:14
◼
►
come and ask for the secret thing it's a
00:55:18
◼
►
it was brilliant so anyway I was there
00:55:20
◼
►
he was that he was on board
00:55:22
◼
►
top guy so if you go to the black stump
00:55:25
◼
►
espresso cafe at the bottom of the
00:55:28
◼
►
Grenville Center the mighty black stump
00:55:29
◼
►
in Adelaide and order a coffee and then
00:55:32
◼
►
give them a little wink and say can I
00:55:33
◼
►
have a hello internet hot stopper they
00:55:37
◼
►
burnout from a secret drawer behind the
00:55:39
◼
►
counter and give you one in your drink
00:55:41
◼
►
so anyway while I was there I decided to
00:55:44
◼
►
tweet I said I'm at the Marty black
00:55:46
◼
►
stamp I've got hot Stoppers hmm if you
00:55:49
◼
►
want to come and say hello and get one
00:55:51
◼
►
now's your chance I don't even know why
00:55:53
◼
►
I did it I didn't think I thought maybe
00:55:55
◼
►
one person might turn up but over the
00:55:58
◼
►
next one a half-hour or say various
00:56:01
◼
►
breathless Tim's came bursting into the
00:56:04
◼
►
lobby thinking they'd miss me
00:56:06
◼
►
it's and then there's that obvious
00:56:09
◼
►
awkwardness where no one really quite
00:56:10
◼
►
knows what to say right but I said to
00:56:12
◼
►
them if you want I'd already lost my hot
00:56:14
◼
►
stop as I'd given them to the guy so I
00:56:16
◼
►
said if you actually want a hot stopper
00:56:17
◼
►
you've got to go and buy a drink mm-hmm
00:56:19
◼
►
but they did and we ended up sitting
00:56:21
◼
►
around there was like a nice little
00:56:22
◼
►
there's a few sofas and a table and I
00:56:24
◼
►
ended up sitting hanging out with a
00:56:25
◼
►
bunch of Tim's while we sipped our hot
00:56:28
◼
►
drinks all using our own hello internet
00:56:30
◼
►
hot stoppers the funny thing was there
00:56:33
◼
►
were old Tim's but over half of them
00:56:35
◼
►
were named Matt go figure
00:56:37
◼
►
there was just a lot of Matt's but
00:56:40
◼
►
they're old Tim's as well you're so good
00:56:41
◼
►
to the fans brady you're so good to them
00:56:43
◼
►
it was good fun it was fun they don't
00:56:46
◼
►
like come rushing in from wherever they
00:56:48
◼
►
were like you know some of them were
00:56:50
◼
►
just next door so they were out to go
00:56:51
◼
►
and say hello the other one said like
00:56:53
◼
►
you know been on a bus and then run
00:56:54
◼
►
through town to get there it was really
00:56:57
◼
►
nice this is like you created a little
00:57:00
◼
►
hello Internet flash mob is what you did
00:57:02
◼
►
I did I think the guy running the cafe
00:57:04
◼
►
when I gave him the things thought maybe
00:57:06
◼
►
I was like some kind of fantasy store
00:57:08
◼
►
something and he was just humoring me so
00:57:10
◼
►
when all these people gathered he was
00:57:11
◼
►
humoring you right it was one funny
00:57:13
◼
►
incident they the next day because I
00:57:15
◼
►
tweeted this and you can see pictures
00:57:16
◼
►
and I tweeted that you could get these
00:57:18
◼
►
hot Stoppers now and so over the next
00:57:20
◼
►
day or two people started arriving and
00:57:23
◼
►
getting their hot Stoppers and obviously
00:57:26
◼
►
what happened was the guy behind the
00:57:28
◼
►
counter like as a joke gave a hot
00:57:30
◼
►
stopper to someone mm-hmm and sort of
00:57:34
◼
►
wink to them and said are you lucky he
00:57:35
◼
►
got the last one mm-hmm so that person
00:57:38
◼
►
then tweeted saying warning everyone
00:57:40
◼
►
they've run out I just got the last one
00:57:42
◼
►
and that created like all these people
00:57:43
◼
►
now I can't believe they're gone and
00:57:45
◼
►
someone went like an arrow to later and
00:57:47
◼
►
the guy opened the drawer and gave him
00:57:49
◼
►
another one so then he was like
00:57:51
◼
►
richting it and saying it was a folks
00:57:53
◼
►
alarm everyone they've still got a hot
00:57:54
◼
►
stuff was they haven't run out and this
00:57:55
◼
►
Tim confronted the guy and said I just
00:57:58
◼
►
read on Twitter that you said it was the
00:57:59
◼
►
last one but you've got a whole drawer
00:58:00
◼
►
full of them and he was like I was just
00:58:02
◼
►
joking I don't think he realized the
00:58:05
◼
►
power he's reading you don't understand
00:58:06
◼
►
the forces you're messing with here
00:58:08
◼
►
buddy don't joke about running out of
00:58:10
◼
►
hot stuffers say last I heard they still
00:58:13
◼
►
have some say don't believe any fake
00:58:15
◼
►
news about hot stoppers that you may see
00:58:16
◼
►
on the Internet like go yourself and
00:58:18
◼
►
find out you can't trust anything you
00:58:20
◼
►
read on the Internet and I love that I
00:58:22
◼
►
love that I don't think I could convince
00:58:24
◼
►
a coffee shop to take hot Stoppers from
00:58:27
◼
►
me I don't think I'm that charming I
00:58:29
◼
►
thought I don't think I would have the
00:58:30
◼
►
social skills to pull that off I think I
00:58:33
◼
►
was helped by the fact it's quite a
00:58:34
◼
►
small operation like I warmed in the
00:58:36
◼
►
Starbucks but the fact it was just a
00:58:39
◼
►
couple of guys one of the guys that was
00:58:41
◼
►
the owner and they haven't been in
00:58:42
◼
►
business very long and I think maybe I
00:58:45
◼
►
made it sound like they would get extra
00:58:46
◼
►
business as a result of it mmm
00:58:50
◼
►
you know he was just like whatever
00:58:51
◼
►
it's no no skin off my nose they don't
00:58:53
◼
►
have their own hot stoppers so right
00:58:55
◼
►
you're providing a service we did
00:58:58
◼
►
exchange details I said if you ever run
00:58:59
◼
►
out give me a call I was gonna say every
00:59:01
◼
►
time you fly to Adelaide you need to
00:59:02
◼
►
bring boxes of hot stoppers with you it
00:59:04
◼
►
might get a bit that way but anyway part
00:59:07
◼
►
of me thinks I should expand this and
00:59:09
◼
►
find out who else wants to stock them
00:59:11
◼
►
but pardon me likes the idea there's
00:59:12
◼
►
just one place in the world you can do
00:59:14
◼
►
it and it's the foot of the Marty black
00:59:16
◼
►
stamp there's something magical about
00:59:18
◼
►
there is something magical about that
00:59:19
◼
►
there's also at least for the first time
00:59:21
◼
►
there's something magical about you
00:59:24
◼
►
having delivered them in person yeah
00:59:26
◼
►
like we were discussing previously
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there's these hot Stoppers I just feel
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like they are hot Stoppers of whimsy and
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this is whimsical I mean 100%
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improvement of this like this is really
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great I have started sending them out to
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a few random patrons as well and I'm
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just gonna do that occasionally when it
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pops into my head so if you are up like
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a patreon person and you've supplied the
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address then one day you may just get a
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hot stopper unexpectedly but it's not
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going to be like there's not lots of
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them it's just a it is as gray like to
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say there are hot Stoppers of whimsy and
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that again will also be just a whims
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that again will also be just a whims
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the cool thing that occasionally happens
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one of these days I might have to travel
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to Adelaide and get a coffee there with
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it I tell you what that's tougher I do
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think I do think we need to start a
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campaign for the South Australian
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Tourism Commission to fly you and I out
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for a hello Internet
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South Australian tour oh yeah because
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the Thule clearly I'm not gonna get you
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to fly to Australia unless like you know
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it's a really nice trip so I think the
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South Australian Tourism Commission has
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to pick up the slack here imagine that
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we could do a podcast from the Adelaide
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Oval from the black stamp right I'll
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take you out into the outback take you
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to a cricket match take you to Glenelg
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glitter do all the wine areas up in the
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Adelaide Hills oh I'll show you all the
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places where I went to school this is
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turning really bad that's like on me
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maybe he's mildly interesting but then
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if it turns into like a trip down Brady
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memory lane right everywhere we went
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see that road there I once I once bought
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a hamburger it would be like an in
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person photograph album here's all of
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the pictures of me when I was a kid no
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no it would take a lot of willpower for
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me not to bore you but when you would
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also see some cool stuff right and you
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get to see the black stump in real life
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and it it's pretty impressive right
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well I can't believe I forgot to tell
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you the most important thing oh my god
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what is it what is it so it turns out a
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friend of mine works in the tallest
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building in Adelaide the Westpac
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building and her office floor has a
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magnificent view of the mighty black
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stamp and the rival building the Telstra
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building and this view from the office a
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few hundred meters away pretty much puts
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you at the same level of the two of them
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mm-hmm I'm gonna send you a picture I
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took a photo at the window of the mighty
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black stump and this rival building that
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you know I don't like right so this is
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the best picture I've seen yet of the
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muddy black stump
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and the Telstra Building okay so we're
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looking at the mighty black stump and
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this Telstra house which is technically
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according to the internet by like one
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meter clearly the mighty black stump is
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a bigger building even if you find
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technical reasons for aerial aside
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obviously if you include the area with
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the mighty black stump way bigger there
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is like this plant area on top of both
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which the black stump seems to have a
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bigger one really I think you know you
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know I'm really amazed at you as a
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podcasting co-host I really do I love
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your enthusiasm for very many things
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mm-hmm I think this photograph is not as
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much of a slam-dunk as you think it is I
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can see where the argument comes from
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with that top brow of the Telstra
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building I'm not even talking about like
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the top brow i matter many of this is
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just this is a picture of two buildings
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from like an unclear angle I can't just
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give it to you is like this is amazing
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proof that the mighty black stump is
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bigger like pictures from unknown angles
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are how they pulled off all of the scale
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tricks in the Lord of the Rings I said
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like I don't know where this photograph
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is taken from I can't take this as proof
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that you you seem so certain that it is
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so I'm not saying it's conclusive but I
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think it helps me it certainly looks in
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your favor in the photo I will give you
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that I will grant you that you'll have
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to take my word from it but those two
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buildings are pretty much the same
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distance away from me there now I'm
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wondering I still feel like I want I
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want some Tim to arrange like a laser
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reading from space on these two
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buildings the funny thing is that photo
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is taken from an architect's office like
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I knocked on the door and said do you
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mind if I come in and take a picture at
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your window because I'm really
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interested most two buildings over there
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and they were like yeah okay they had
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all like blueprints that which was
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really cool so they look at these two
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buildings every day and I said I'm
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really interested in the Grenville
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Center I didn't call it the mighty black
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stump because I thought it might confuse
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them right I said I'm really interested
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in the Grenville Center and they said
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which ones there and I'm like what do
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you mean which ones there the black
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building there and they go ah yeah that
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black building we just always call that
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black building over there and they
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didn't even know anything about it
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didn't know it was called the mighty
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black stamp they and I like your
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architects it's appalling it's appalling
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that other people don't know what you
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know absolutely appalling they're
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architects in Adelaide with a window
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that looks out over those buildings
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you'd think they'd know like Adelaide
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buildings if once again evidence
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actually lining up in favor of the
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building not being nearly as historic or
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as impressive as you think it is but
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sure yeah keep going keep going
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I've never denied that my affection for
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the muddy black stump is borne of like
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my era but still what's the tallest
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build you'd think architects would know
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the four or five tallest buildings in
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town I am never one to over assume how
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much people know about anything as long
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as they know how to architect the
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buildings they're architecting I'm happy
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how good is that picture I took though
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isn't that a magnificent picture it is a
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very magnificent picture Brady I do have
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to say that the mighty black stump looks
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pretty great it looks like a like a
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building black hole on the skyline there
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it is it's really those looks like it's
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painted a vente black in that one
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one day I'll go maybe intentionally on
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my own tweet the South Australian
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tourist Commission if you want to
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organize a hello Internet trip we do a
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live show and everything go imagine that
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mmm maybe we could do a live shot the
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Adelaide Oval there hold 60,000 people
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so it should hold those seven or eight
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Brady once again underestimate the hello
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Internet audience but I met the six or
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seven that turned up to the Blackstone
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yeah they're the ones who I think we can
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bank on turning up yeah we can bank on
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that what I think you definitely cannot
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Bank on is a live hello Internet being
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remotely interesting to watch especially
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especially I like this in my mind's eye
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the setting is the Adelaide Oval is of
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course packed to the brim yeah and you
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and I are just sitting at a little table
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in the centre with two microphones in
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front of us it would look just like a
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Test match that have the Mexican way of
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going and all sorts they get well into
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it I'd make sure it was a spectacle
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there you go pray you start making
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promises so gray while I was back in
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Australia I caught up with lots of my
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friends mmm lots of them
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have children so it's always a chance
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for me to sort of dip into the world of
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parenting and things like that and find
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out latest trends what it's like to be a
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parent mmm my friends children are
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getting like that little bit older mmm
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and I have to say I mean I probably
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sound really stupid to people who like
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have kids in there but in the last sort
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of three or four years I didn't realize
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how much parenting has changed and how
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much of an issue smartphones and
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technology and connectivity is like it
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is escalated to a point that I didn't
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expect and I'll give you like a cute
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example and then I'll give you like a
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more extreme example that struck with me
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just before you do I just want to say
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like I'm genuinely curious to hear about
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this because I have my little
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conversational go twos but one of mine
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when talking to parents is I find this
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endlessly interesting to ask parents how
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did they manage the digital lives of
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their children yeah like I think that
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this is such an issue in the modern
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world and this is not about screen time
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screen time was a problem when when you
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and I were kids you know too much time
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on the TV or videos or computers or the
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the Atari just is not about screen time
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yeah this is about connectivity my
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parents had to simply worry that I was
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sinking a hundred and forty hours a week
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into Total Annihilation
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right that's like that was that was
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their concern okay you turned that fan
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fantastic exactly exactly so fun example
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first was the issue of Santa Claus the
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much-loved and legendary character who I
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won't go into too much detail about
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because I'm now very aware that my
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nephew listens to hello Internet and
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he's six years old but also like were
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you just about to explain who Santa
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Claus this to the audience like like
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that I think we can assume listeners now
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know but there are certain aspects of
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listeners know about Santa to whatever
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level they know all right well anyway I
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was talking to one of my friends about
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to which his daughter knew about Santa
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Claus right because she was at an age
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where you know I think she would still
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be enjoying Santa Claus to his fullest
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legendary Ness right of course
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and I said oh yeah like you know what
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does she know how you're playing that
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game and he said oh she googled it she
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was having doubts and she just googled
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it so she found out about the working
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conditions for the elves that's a real
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thing all the facts all the santa facts
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that need to be known and like you know
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we found out about it through like you
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know stories in the schoolyard now it's
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just hmm what is the case here three or
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four taps of a keyboard okay there you
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but do you know what I then did I
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googled it yeah I am googling Santa
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Claus Google does Santa Claus exists and
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when you do that it's really hard to
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come to any conclusive answer if I was a
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little kid and I good with that I think
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I would be more confused than I was to
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start with I think you could read the
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Wikipedia article about Santa Claus and
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come away with no definitive answer on
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the existence question at least when I
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google it the number one result for me
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is a link that takes you to an Amazon
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page for a book that is called does
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Santa exists a philosophical
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investigation it's like maybe a little
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bit beyond most of the kids who are
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probably googling does Santa exist and I
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I can see that it's like oh okay
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then some kid orders it on their Kindle
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and starts reading and finds it a very
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confusing subject so at first when my
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friend told me you know she googled it
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I was thinking all that would have just
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ruined it in seconds but now I'm
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thinking I'm impressed she actually
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arrived at any conclusion after doing
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yeah but I'm curious I wanted to see the
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Wikipedia introductory sentence hmm and
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and I like this I like the sentence
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Santa Claus also known as Saint Nicholas
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st. Nick Kris Kringle father Christmas
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or simply Santa is a legendary figure
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originating in Western Christian culture
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who was said to bring gifts to the homes
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of well-behaved or good children on
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Christmas Eve or Christmas Day
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so I like that a legendary figure that's
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good that's good
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anyway let's not get too bogged down
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with the philosophy and the existence of
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Santa Claus because I want to talk about
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the more interesting aspect of this and
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this was another friend of mine whose
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child was a little bit older mm-hmm
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but not that old and I was at the pub
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with him we're having a drink and his
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phone goes off Bing and it's his child
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saying dad I've done my homework I've
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been really good today hmm can I have my
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apps hmm and he was in a good mood and
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he was having a drink with his old pal
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Brady and he said ah what the heck
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texted her back and said because I'm
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here with Brady and because you've been
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a good girl yes and here I open up this
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app on his phone called our pact and
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basically what that is is it gives him
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total control over his child's apps on
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her phone who so he has the whole list
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of all the apps what times she can use
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it so she can use Facebook between 5:15
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and 5:30 like to find fine-grained
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details and when the app is not allowed
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it just doesn't appear on her phone she
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hasn't got it can control everything
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about her phone use he can put time
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limits on things so she can have like
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you know 15 minutes of Instagram a day
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and it's up to her how she decides to
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use and how to ration it he can then
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allow the apps any time he chooses like
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he did when he was with me we can shut
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them down any time he chooses if he
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wants to like if he thinks he needs to
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for disciplinary reasons and it was this
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incredible amount of control which makes
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sense to me you know I'm not it makes
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that there's something about it they're
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striking me is a little bit black mirror
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ish the child's digital world appears
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and dissapears at the press of a button
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on the other he said that he said
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they've just vanished from her screen
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it's very sign of the times isn't it
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well I think it's kind of necessary but
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I was saying oh this is amazing
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but then the other amazing thing was
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like you know his kids are smart
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mm-hmm and they understand technology
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and this is not enough there's like a
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whole arms war that goes on between you
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try to control your children's access to
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the Internet and stuff like that and
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their desire to get that access Ravin
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when they're not supposed to have it and
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he was you know telling stories of you
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borrowing your friends phone or having
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different accounts and all these sorts
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of things just like normal kids stuff
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that you and I would do but if you're a
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parent so he has to be really really
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across the technology to be able to
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police his children's use of the
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technology and like all the new
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innovations that come about and all the
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different things that happen he has to
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know on top of all the other things he
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has to know in his life hmm and it was
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making my head spin all the stuff that
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was going on you know I won't go into
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all the details but like it was it was
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crazy and I was thinking gosh being a
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parent now Wow things are so different
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yeah it is really different and you know
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what he's not worried about what like
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kidnappers or people abducting your
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children while they're at the park
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because they don't want to go out like
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they want to stay in and do things
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online hmm and when they actually meet
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up with people who they're friends with
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online like their best Instagram friends
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who their messaging non-stop they
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completely shut down and they really shy
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and don't even want to talk to them like
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I don't talk to them person I just want
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to be at home talking to everyone on on
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social media that last part is the part
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that I think is really interesting you
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know obviously precursors of this
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conversation like you and I are people
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with our children we're going to talk
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about child raising choice it invites a
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lot of comments yeah but even even with
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my wife and I like we sometimes have
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discussions about like how would we
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hypothetically raise a child under
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different circumstances because it like
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it's an interesting couple conversation
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to have and even though like my whole
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life is technology I have always been on
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on the side of I would severely limit my
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child's access to technology for as long
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as was practically possible and of
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course before all the parents chimed in
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like I'm just talking about like how do
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things work in an ideal land alright
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like yeah I know why it happens but I
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find there's something kind of upsetting
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about seeing like a very very barely not
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baby kid using an iPad there's something
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that ii mean just i don't think that's
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for a little kid like i think a little
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kid should be interacting with the world
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but that's just like my personal feeling
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it's like I would want to hold back the
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existence of screens from my child as
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long as is possible
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when you can't hold that back anymore I
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would still want to try to limit it as
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much as possible it's so interesting to
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hear you say that and surprising to me
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you seem like the one who is very much
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like says hey you know all the world's
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moving online that's where we're going
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to live our lives now you're a big
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advocate of education being taken over
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by technology like it seems like you're
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just putting off the inevitable
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well let's skip this because I want to
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get to the second part of this for now
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which is what hasn't thrown a wrinkle
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into a whole bunch of my previous
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thoughts which don't necessarily make a
01:16:01
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lot of sense right now but what I think
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the real problem for parents is is like
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okay so I had this theoretical plan if
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I'd want to try to limit screen time for
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my kid but what I can see happening with
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the people I know who have children who
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start approaching middle school age is
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that this question is out of your hands
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and it's out of your hands largely
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because of things like social media and
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so if you are the parent who wants to
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clamp down on your child's social media
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you're really forcing your child into
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like a weird social pariah role
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definitely they're like everything that
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is happening socially with these kids is
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happening online
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and I think that there is a real way in
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which the parenting options are
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constrained by the decisions that other
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parents have made and I think like even
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if you wanted to be a parent who was
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trying to limit their kids social media
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influence I think it's a real you're
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damned if you do when you're damned if
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you don't it's not an option I sort of
01:17:08
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said what about just taking a phone away
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altogether or just banning and it's like
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that you can't do that you know you may
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as well be the kid going to school in a
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potato sack and you would just become
01:17:18
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ostracized but it would make their life
01:17:21
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worse so it's such a difficult situation
01:17:23
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yeah it's an interesting thing to see
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happen and obviously become much more of
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a concern and I get something I'm really
01:17:31
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glad that when I was teaching I missed
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out on like I left teaching just as this
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was becoming a thing right I'm very glad
01:17:37
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that like I missed all of that but I
01:17:39
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like I have real deep sympathies for
01:17:41
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people trying to raise
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kids now because just like I have a real
01:17:49
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gut feeling that there's something that
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might not be good for a baby's brain to
01:17:53
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be interacting with an iPad all the time
01:17:55
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I really have a suspicion that like I
01:18:00
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don't think social media is necessarily
01:18:01
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great for lots of adults and I think
01:18:03
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it's probably worse for teenagers and
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yeah preteens like I think everything
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about social media is bad enough if
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you're an adult and I really just don't
01:18:16
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think people should learn how to
01:18:17
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socialize through Facebook like I can
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hardly imagine a worse way that young
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people should try to learn how to
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socialize there's the part of me which
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is like okay well having your kid learn
01:18:28
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how to socialize through Facebook is bad
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I don't think it's a good thing to do
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but guess what totally cutting your kid
01:18:35
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off from how everybody in their social
01:18:39
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group is socializing is also terrible
01:18:43
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there is no winning in this scenario
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like you have to let your kid
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participate in a thing that I don't
01:18:49
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think is good because if you don't let
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them participate in it like they might
01:18:52
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as well be that weird homeschooled kid
01:18:55
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who never talks to other children that's
01:18:57
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what's happening here it's so surprising
01:18:59
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hearing you talk that way like cuz you
01:19:03
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know you I guess I sort of have an
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impression of you that you're this guy
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who's like ah you know in 30 years we're
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all just gonna be jacked into the matrix
01:19:10
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and a plug in the back of our head and
01:19:12
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never talk to another human anyway and
01:19:13
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live all virtually and you know you
01:19:16
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can't stop progress you know technology
01:19:19
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is good hearing you kind of go a little
01:19:21
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bit old-school there and say you know we
01:19:23
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should all be holding hands and playing
01:19:25
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past the parcel well it's nice now you
01:19:30
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make me want to take back on my words
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and you say that braid but you are right
01:19:34
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on those aspects of it you cannot fight
01:19:36
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technological change and on the whole I
01:19:39
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think technological change is good I
01:19:40
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don't change these two opinions here but
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I just in particular and people have
01:19:47
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heard it you know over the the length of
01:19:48
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his podcast like I have become much more
01:19:50
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cautious and concerned about certain
01:19:52
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parts of the Internet yeah and then when
01:19:55
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you start talking about people who are
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learning how to interact with people
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like I don't think it's good and also
01:20:02
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just like to put a pin in it I don't
01:20:03
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think the way that the school system of
01:20:05
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the existence of social media from the
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world like I don't think the way that
01:20:08
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schools are organized are good ways for
01:20:09
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kids to learn how to interact with other
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human beings but adding on this
01:20:14
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additional meta layer I think makes it
01:20:17
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worse that's why I like it's right there
01:20:20
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that I have a concern and what you said
01:20:23
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is a thing that I have heard from a
01:20:25
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surprising number of people that their
01:20:28
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children seem to not want to or have a
01:20:32
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hard time interacting with other
01:20:35
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children in person or like they prefer
01:20:38
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to interact you know in a way that is
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through text messages so that the kids
01:20:45
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have time to think about how they want
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to say things I find that concerning I
01:20:50
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just don't know what can be done about
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it because I think even for adults that
01:20:53
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can be a hard thing and it's something
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in my own life I've been aware of like
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how much of my relationship maintenance
01:21:01
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with other human beings is done through
01:21:03
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text messages and I have been finding
01:21:05
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myself thinking over the past maybe half
01:21:06
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a year or so like are there ways I could
01:21:09
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escalate these interactions to voice
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because I think voice is higher
01:21:13
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bandwidth in some ways over text but of
01:21:15
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course not really because the reason
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that everybody is interacting with text
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is because it is more convenient and it
01:21:22
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is more easy to do so and so like you're
01:21:24
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trying to move uphill in a way that
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people just don't want or like everybody
01:21:30
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feels that weird anxiety when like the
01:21:31
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phone is ringing and you just assume
01:21:33
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that it's some kind of problem or
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emergency if it's a person that you
01:21:35
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haven't heard from in a while so I don't
01:21:39
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know what parents should do I always
01:21:41
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find it interesting to ask parents what
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are they doing with their kids and their
01:21:45
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digital lives at all different stages
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because I think it's it's a really hard
01:21:49
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situation in a way that it just it just
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didn't used to be I also find it
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interesting because I think it could
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have I don't know if this is gonna be a
01:22:00
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little bit overblown but I really do
01:22:02
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think like maybe it will have a real
01:22:05
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impact on how society operates in the
01:22:08
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future if you have a generation of kids
01:22:11
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grew up with Instagram in school with a
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kind of super hyper optimized popularity
01:22:18
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competitiveness competition yeah I think
01:22:21
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that's one of the bigger problems yeah
01:22:23
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there is also the whole that we're not
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talking about but you can imagine all
01:22:26
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the things that go into it how it's
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changing a lot of sex and sexual ization
01:22:32
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things like the way that young people
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relate to each other and sort of find
01:22:37
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their way through that aspect of life
01:22:39
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seems to be really at a precipice
01:22:42
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they're really amped up like you know
01:22:44
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the expectations that people now have of
01:22:46
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how relationships work and those sort of
01:22:48
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early stages is like it's hard to keep a
01:22:51
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lid on that now because of the access to
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all the stuff they have and and what
01:22:55
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that's doing it's kind of scary you know
01:22:56
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it's a loss of control yeah like we've
01:23:01
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all had birds-and-the-bees talks and you
01:23:03
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know we all know how we sort of found
01:23:05
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our way through that aspect of life but
01:23:07
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the conversations that I'm hearing about
01:23:10
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now that parents are having are more
01:23:12
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along the lines of look I know you've
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seen this I know you've looked at that
01:23:15
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and I know what you think these things
01:23:17
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are like that's not what it's like you
01:23:20
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need to pull back from what you think
01:23:21
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those things are like like I imagine for
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you and I as kids a lot of it was you
01:23:25
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know you were being told stuff and
01:23:26
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finding out stuff and you were like
01:23:28
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wide-eyed and going oh gosh I had no
01:23:29
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idea and you were kind of learning what
01:23:32
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things would lead to now it's kind of
01:23:35
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kids are like seeing quite extreme
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things yeah they aren't particularly
01:23:39
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realistic and parents are having to say
01:23:41
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the birds and the bees talk now is not
01:23:43
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this is how it works it's more like that
01:23:46
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stuff that you've seen that's not how it
01:23:47
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works it's more like this yeah I
01:23:50
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actually think that that is a like a
01:23:52
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subset of of the general problem that
01:23:56
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I'm concerned about which is with all
01:23:59
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kinds of things the Internet can have a
01:24:02
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tendency to push you towards more
01:24:04
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extreme versions of things
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yeah like the way recommendation
01:24:07
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algorithms work you click on a thing and
01:24:09
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then the recommendations are different
01:24:12
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ways you can take that thing to the more
01:24:14
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extreme version and you can just start
01:24:16
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going down real rabbit holes that covers
01:24:20
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every aspect of a thing that a person
01:24:22
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might be interested in right it's like
01:24:23
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yeah we can be talking
01:24:24
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the birds and the bees or we can be
01:24:26
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talking about politics or we can be
01:24:28
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arguing about any of the the bazillion
01:24:31
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things there can be a flame war about on
01:24:33
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the Internet there's like these bias
01:24:36
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cliffs that are all around you that you
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unintentionally and we struggle enough
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with as that okay alone like kids so
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yeah like that's what I think is is the
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real thing that I've become sensitized
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to like I think was two years ago like I
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took a break from Twitter for a while
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things I ever did because it changed
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something in my mind about the way I
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interact with this stuff but I also feel
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like it's it sensitized me to this in a
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way and I have this feeling like as a
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grown adult who is a person who does a
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very good job of managing his own life
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like I'm a self-employed person I have
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to manage all of this kind of stuff like
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I think I'm like I'm above average in
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self-management skills yeah I think
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that's a fair statement yeah like yeah
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this is very stable right it's like I
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can feel the internet trying to pull me
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in ways that I can resistor that I'm
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but I think this stuff can really catch
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you off-guard if you don't know it's
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it's coming actually going back to our
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conversation about universal paper clips
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like I had this experience years ago of
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the first time I ran into a game that
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was sort of like universal paper clips
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but I didn't know what this thing was
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like I didn't have any experience with
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these kind of games that are there to
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just hook you and I got hooked really
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deep on a game that I I realize like I'm
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not having any fun but I can't stop
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thinking about this game and why am i
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playing it and like I'm not actually
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enjoying this experience and that was
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like oh I have my eyes open too this is
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a kind of trap that exists on the
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internet like you've you've wandered off
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the path in Mordor and like and now you
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recognize what this thing is and so I
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good luck parents yeah good luck parents
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hey great when I went to Australia I
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went on a plane yeah yeah okay what do
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you think about hot towels on planes I
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find it strange weirdest thing ever I
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can never say no to it although I never
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really I then just kind of don't know
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what to do with it I like dab my face
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and wipe my hands and then I've just got
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this cold wet thing for the next three
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you take them I take them I'm laughing
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they're passing out the hot towels and I
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was for some reason really cognizant of
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them and I was looking around and I
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noticed that everybody used them to wipe
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their hands and I always use them on my
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face and I had this little moment of
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like F I've been doing this wrong my
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whole life is not for my face I thought
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this was from anyways laughing like I
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didn't know it there they're all making
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fun of me on social media behind my back
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right they're all going oh there's an
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idiot who's hot salable to wipe his face
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what a moron
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he look around everyone's wiping their
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butts you've got all over your face yes
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I understand it seems like from another
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yeah they didn't realize that you don't
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do this anymore I think this is 100
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percents a weird anachronism
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there's stuck around as a black bloody
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marys who drinks Bloody Marys and yet
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everyone on planes always old as a
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Bloody Mary is that what people order
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around please
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I always find the alcohol on planes
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weird I don't know why there's black
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bars on play it seems like a strange
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environment but maybe it's just a click
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to calm people down but I don't drink
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alcohol on planes but when you talk to
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other people it seems like the serving
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of alcohol is the main use of planes to
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some people like the beyond the fact
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they can fly even but like are you going
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on a you know are you gonna have lots of
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drinks and you're gonna drink and
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everyone drinks on planes I never drink
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on plane yeah no but daddy Mary's just
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like a plain drink and I don't I don't
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understand that either I'm sure people
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will tell me some reason I don't drink
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I don't eat on planes over tell the
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flight hood like I'm not taking any of
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your food there's no food service here
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but I can't say no to a hot towel like
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they just come and it's on the little
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tongs like I just I guess I have to
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accept this it's a strange thing I'd be
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quite happy thing to do away with the
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hot towels on planes in your plate but
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just give me like a chocolate or
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something maybe I don't over I don't
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know I feel like I would miss the hot
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towel I feel like it's part of the weird
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ritual it just seems like a waste of
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weight and time and space and how did I
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I keep taking them I wiped my face with
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them and well thank God you wipe your
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face with them so that we know we know
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it's like I'm not alone in this activity
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yeah I do that I do the face I don't
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know I think they're gonna be around for
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a long time I don't think they're going
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anywhere at the hot towel on planes
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speaking of hot towels and things that
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are like weird and why do you still do
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them why does YouTube do this rewind
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video every year and then people that
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look forward to it like it's a new Star
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Wars movie or something there seems to
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be since some section of the internet
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that gets quite hyped about this YouTube
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rewind video and who's gonna be in it
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and I can't think of anything I have
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less interest in yeah YouTube rewind
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it's a strained beast have you watched
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this years yeah the 2017 version came
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out what is like a a week and a half ago
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is it any good
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Oh have you not watched it no okay well
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I was talking to a few people in my life
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about this and I realized a very funny
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thing which is that okay so YouTube
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rewind for anyone who doesn't know is
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is this like like summary cameo video
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mess thing of stuff that's happened in
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the last year as I understand it they
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don't like take the best stuff that was
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on YouTube that year and turn it into a
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montage it so like bespoke made stuff
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for that video yeah okay let's back up
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here right I guess I'm trying to say
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like this video called YouTube rewind
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has as of right now like a hundred and
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sixty million views right they do shove
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it down your throat a bit like okay yeah
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it's incredibly promoted but I realized
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talking to normal people that no normal
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person knows what this thing is all
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right no normal person seems to watch
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this or have any interest in this right
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this thing is it's entirely a social
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network that is contained and pointing
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to itself it's like the place to be
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saying isn't it it's like you know
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Studio 54 back in the day people would
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just want to be seen in it like and they
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want to see who's in it yeah it's it's
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very extreme so it's a status symbol or
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something maybe I don't know yeah so for
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people who don't know which are normal
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people who shouldn't know it I'll
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describe it in the most cynical way
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YouTube gets a bunch of their most
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visible known photogenic creators that
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YouTube also wants to promote and gets
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them all together to be in a gigantic
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compilation video of meaninglessness
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where they're they're all in it for a
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couple of seconds smiling to the camera
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doing something funny maybe passing an
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object back and forth so that there's
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some vague idea of continuity through
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the video across time but this year's
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video is 7 minutes long and they must
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cram 200 creators in there all of whom
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have had like a million plus subscribers
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who then tell their subscribers oh I was
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in YouTube rewind this year so it gets
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phenomenal viewing numbers
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but the thing is calling it meaning this
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is almost a compliment too but like it
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is it's so and you can just tell from
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watching it I mean I haven't watched
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this years but I have watched them
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before and I have heard stories from
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people who have contributed you can tell
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that every segment would have involved
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days of filming for those two or three
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seconds that they actually kept it
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always alludes so they did something
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much more big and elaborate that got cut
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and they just kept half a second of
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someone winking or something like it's
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oh no watch it okay yeah like I honestly
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think you should just put it on in
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silent in the background while we're
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talking because okay the thing has
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always been a little bit embarrassing I
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will say that like go back five years
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ago and I thought that they were okay
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simply because YouTube was smaller it
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was less obviously pushing an agenda you
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were more likely to know who the
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creators were and because there were
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fewer people packed in the video it had
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some chance of being interesting hmm but
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I think the last three years have been
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really terrible have you ever been asked
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to contribute no I have never been asked
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but then again like I'm not an on camera
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person it doesn't make any sense to ask
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me to be part of it I had like an
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animation section this year they didn't
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I I heard there was a little animation
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section at the end this year which I
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actually thought was the best part of
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the whole video was they had a bunch of
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animators at the end and the reason it
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was the best part of the whole video is
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they obviously told each of the
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animators that they were going to have
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whatever it was 5 or 10 seconds just do
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whatever they want and the animators
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were unconstrained by all the dumbness
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that every one of the physical people
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was constrained by like we put you in a
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room and we have these props and we want
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you to interact with these props I and
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like look goofy or look happy or
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whatever if the animator part was
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clearly the best part but the rest of it
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was just this fills me with dread
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watching this it's so like glassy and
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you know what else makes me feel a bit
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like icky well knowing that the people
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who were in it would be watching it with
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like wide eyes feeling so good about
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their one section and thinking how like
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impactful it was like I'm what I'm
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imagining them watching it I don't know
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because someone needs to tell the
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youtubes to stop doing this it's become
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a thing that's what the Oscars for them
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it's so self-absorbed that it's
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revolting that's the good term for us so
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far because if you do
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know who all these youtubers are the
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video is meaningless and this year's was
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especially bad because they were cutting
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between scenes so fast very fast cut
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there's no pretense that you can follow
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what's occurring so it's like okay what
01:38:01
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am i watching here I'm watching a thing
01:38:03
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where if I am the most obsessive YouTube
01:38:06
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viewer I'm just going to recognize a
01:38:09
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bunch of millionaires that's what's
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happening here
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it's also a bit like how good a thing
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did I get in the yearbook yeah it's a
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little bit yearbook E and all the
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popular kids have a page in the yearbook
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full of all the things they did and let
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you and I other ones who aren't in the
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year yeah it's oh I just saw someone I
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recognized amazing yeah and don't like
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this year is in particular I feel like
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it's so clear that this year is like
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here or all of the acceptable beautiful
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people that we want to promote and there
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are plenty of people on YouTube who if
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you were doing some compilation of the
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would be in there but it's like but
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YouTube doesn't want to show those
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people we only want to show certain
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kinds of people right we don't want to
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show other kinds of people but how is
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this promoting anything it's not like
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you're gonna see anything in this video
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and go hmm I might look into that person
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more and explore their work or subscribe
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to their channel it's almost like
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youtuber giving you a like on snaps
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degree yeah yeah like these are the
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people that we're giving a like yeah
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that's 100% what it is yeah YouTube is
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handing out hearts to specific creators
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in this way and this year's was super
01:39:21
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cringy it was really hard to watch
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there's a thing that really just rubbed
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me the wrong way which is also like I
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think is a little tone deaf on youtubes
01:39:30
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part which is ostensibly this is like oh
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hey let's look at all of the creators on
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YouTube but they open it up with a
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standard late-night TV guy introducing
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the YouTube people and I feel like this
01:39:44
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has been a year where all of the YouTube
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people have been complaining about the
01:39:47
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invasion of late-night-tv and how
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YouTube is like weirdly obsessed and
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promotes like a whole menagerie of
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late-night TV personalities like it's
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just all over YouTube I was like okay
01:40:00
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is just another indication that the
01:40:01
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thing YouTube really wants is more late
01:40:03
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night TV on YouTube which is just I just
01:40:06
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really don't get Janerio I've been
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watching this video the whole time we've
01:40:09
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been talking admittedly with no sound
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and I realized like you know I'm an old
01:40:15
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guy now who makes boring educational
01:40:17
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videos so I'm you know I'm in the
01:40:19
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minority but this this kind of makes me
01:40:22
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a bit embarrassed of my job yeah I'd
01:40:24
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like if people watch this and associated
01:40:28
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this in any way with what I do for a
01:40:29
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living I'd I feel really bad like I know
01:40:33
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I'm like the old man in this and
01:40:34
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YouTube's a young person's game but I'm
01:40:36
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like I know it makes me not want to say
01:40:39
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that I'm a youtuber for a living like I
01:40:41
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have to change how I describe my job
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this is definitely a thing that there
01:40:46
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has been a change in the cultural mind
01:40:49
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shift about the idea of a youtuber and
01:40:52
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yes it's like I will I will never say
01:40:54
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that because now it used to be like
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people would say something's like what
01:40:57
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is that even me like what are you
01:40:58
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talking about but now people have a very
01:41:01
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particular idea of what that means
01:41:03
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and it exists right like this video is
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what a youtuber is it's like oh god I
01:41:09
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don't want anything to do with this
01:41:10
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young like sickeningly extroverted yeah
01:41:14
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attention-seeking will do any crazy
01:41:17
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thing if it results in being on a screen
01:41:20
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that is one represented case I feel like
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I'm kind of a like the grumpy old yeah
01:41:25
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youtuber person who has nothing to do
01:41:29
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with this and wants nothing to do with
01:41:30
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this the thing that has been happening
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for years which I just don't like but
01:41:35
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was obviously inevitable which is this
01:41:37
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weird Hollywood ization of the YouTube
01:41:40
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platform that does lead like this very
01:41:44
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particular anime people angry but like
01:41:48
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desperate la kind of person who's on
01:41:51
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YouTube and like they can do very well
01:41:54
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on YouTube but it's it's like I just
01:41:56
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don't want anything to do with what you
01:41:59
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said like these people who are
01:42:01
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sickeningly extroverted like I don't
01:42:04
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want anything to do with you I can't
01:42:06
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imagine what YouTube could have asked
01:42:08
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them to do that I wouldn't do to be in
01:42:09
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this video exactly yeah
01:42:10
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now bark like a dog yeah
01:42:12
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now okay like they just seem to be doing
01:42:16
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that okay now dress up as a monster and
01:42:18
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get out of this grave yeah now hold this
01:42:20
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fidget spinner mhm okay okay do you know
01:42:23
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all that said I don't know what I'd do
01:42:25
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if they asked me to do something for it
01:42:27
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because you'd feel like like if they
01:42:29
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said to me Oh Brady can we do like a six
01:42:31
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second thing to do with one of your
01:42:33
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channels to put in the rewind like what
01:42:35
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I say no like I kind of feel like you'd
01:42:38
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have to say yes why do you feel like
01:42:41
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you'd have to say yes part of my job is
01:42:43
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to let you know promote my channels and
01:42:45
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make sure they're successful not just
01:42:46
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for me but for the people who are
01:42:48
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involved and like it does get watched
01:42:51
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like 160 million times is any good
01:42:53
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coming from that well probably not yet
01:42:55
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as far as I can tell none of these
01:42:58
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channels get any kind of bump from this
01:43:00
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because yeah who's watching this right
01:43:03
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orally you've watched this in the
01:43:04
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background okay and you've seen
01:43:06
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half-second clips of 200 people are
01:43:08
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there any of those people you're gonna
01:43:09
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go like wow that person took a water
01:43:11
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balloon to the face really well I want
01:43:13
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to check out his channel you're not
01:43:15
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gonna do that for any of these people
01:43:17
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it's not happening like I think this is
01:43:19
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100% a case like some other things we
01:43:21
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have discussed where like an institution
01:43:24
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is getting people to do a thing and the
01:43:27
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currency that they're paying them in is
01:43:29
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honor right they're like Oh what what a
01:43:32
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great honor it is to be in YouTube
01:43:34
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rewind I was like okay honor sounds like
01:43:37
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I'm not getting paid and honor sounds
01:43:39
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like I might not have a good reason to
01:43:40
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do this like would you want me to do
01:43:42
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this thing I tell you I reckon the only
01:43:44
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people that would benefit from being in
01:43:45
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this are probably the animators because
01:43:48
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they're the only things that I would
01:43:49
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look at and think well that looks good
01:43:51
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I've never I've never seen that person
01:43:53
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before looks like they're doing some
01:43:54
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interesting stuff yeah whereas everyone
01:43:56
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else is not doing like their native
01:43:58
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thing yeah that's why I said like the
01:43:59
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animation part of it was by far the best
01:44:01
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part of it it was that yeah at the very
01:44:03
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end in the credits and because they had
01:44:05
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total control and they didn't have to do
01:44:07
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all of this cringe-worthy stuff and that
01:44:08
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yeah they're doing the thing that they
01:44:10
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do whereas everyone else is like
01:44:11
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whatever they normally do they're not
01:44:13
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doing they're just like yeah taking a
01:44:14
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water balloon in the face instead of
01:44:16
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their normal beauty channel or their
01:44:17
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normal vlog or their normal skydiving
01:44:20
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whatever they normally do it's really
01:44:24
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even though the animator part was the
01:44:26
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best part if they asked me to do it I
01:44:28
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would say no because I feel like the
01:44:30
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video was just so uncomfortable
01:44:32
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I wouldn't want it's not anything to do
01:44:35
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with it and in particular the thing I
01:44:37
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don't like is you're watching it on
01:44:39
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silent so that you you might not have
01:44:41
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picked up on this but so they're doing
01:44:43
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like oh here's a million memes and
01:44:45
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people being outrageous and doing funny
01:44:47
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stuff but then in the in the middle the
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music gets all serious and people start
01:44:51
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holding hands and there's like a little
01:44:55
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moment of like oh boy how did we come
01:44:57
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together in 2017 like we all came
01:45:00
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together as a community it's like to do
01:45:03
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what exactly like well we don't want to
01:45:04
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get too specific about what we came
01:45:06
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together to do but we sure did come
01:45:08
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together in 20 seconds like to raise
01:45:11
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some adsense measure exactly it's just
01:45:13
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like we're gonna have a like a solid and
01:45:15
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I like I hate that stuff I really really
01:45:18
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hate that like forced together and it's
01:45:22
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like oh we're like if you want to make a
01:45:23
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movie with a million cameos and some fun
01:45:25
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memes like fine make that but don't like
01:45:27
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do a tone shift in the middle I want no
01:45:30
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part in this it's absolutely awful I'll
01:45:32
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also just recommend there was a really
01:45:34
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interesting video to watch by one of the
01:45:37
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participants which backs up what you
01:45:39
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were describing like all of these clips
01:45:41
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look like they're part of a much bigger
01:45:43
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thing and there's a youtuber in the UK
01:45:46
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called Emma blackberry who did a long
01:45:48
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discussion about what was it actually
01:45:50
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like to film YouTube rewind yeah and she
01:45:55
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was actually talking about in the UK and
01:45:57
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it just sounded brutal she's done it for
01:46:00
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the past few years and it is literally a
01:46:03
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full day of shooting where you never
01:46:06
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have any idea when you're going to be on
01:46:07
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camera when they're gonna call you like
01:46:09
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you're standing around you just like you
01:46:11
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just have to be there for enormous
01:46:13
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amounts of time and then the end result
01:46:16
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is that you are on camera for three or
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four frames like what an incredible
01:46:22
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waste of a person's time and especially
01:46:25
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when like they're asking people for whom
01:46:30
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like the opportunity cost of doing this
01:46:32
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project is non-trivial like Emma
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BlackBerry is not a tiny vlogger like
01:46:36
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she has a million and a half subscribers
01:46:38
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hmm and to ask her to be like standing
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around for a whole day for like for the
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glory of being in a YouTube video for a
01:46:46
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few frames like it's crazy that's a
01:46:47
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crazy opportunity cost multiply it
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across all the people who are
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participating answer me this then most
01:46:53
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of these people are now big business
01:46:55
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right and they know they're worth
01:46:56
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they're not like naive anymore not many
01:47:01
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people who are that big on YouTube er
01:47:02
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why are they saying yes like you said
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you would quite comfortably say no
01:47:07
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because you see no benefit to you it's a
01:47:08
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waste of time like are they saying yes
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because they see some benefit are they
01:47:13
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saying yes because they're vain are they
01:47:17
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flattered by it like why are they saying
01:47:19
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yes why are they saying yeah I'm a big
01:47:23
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youtuber I can command tens of thousands
01:47:25
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of dollars for my time but I'm gonna
01:47:27
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stand around all day for three frames in
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YouTube rewind well I think there's
01:47:32
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there's many different levels of this
01:47:34
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alright so level 1 are the genuinely big
01:47:39
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people that the video is featuring for a
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significant period of time right right
01:47:43
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so you have the big names who are
01:47:47
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brought out they're able to do their
01:47:50
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thing very quickly and they leave and
01:47:52
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they're genuinely featured for a
01:47:54
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non-trivial amount of time like I could
01:47:56
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see like if I was a vlogger with 10
01:47:59
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million plus subscribers doing their job
01:48:01
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rewind might make sense because it's
01:48:03
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less of a time commitment and you know
01:48:05
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that you're getting some promotion out
01:48:07
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of it what sort of keeps you in the
01:48:09
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zeitgeist a bit yeah it keeps you in the
01:48:11
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zeitgeist and like maybe at that level
01:48:13
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it's not a bad idea to just like have
01:48:15
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some connections with YouTube or like to
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be seen to be doing YouTube a favor I
01:48:20
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can say that I can see why doing YouTube
01:48:23
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a favor could help you down the track
01:48:24
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when you need help yeah and I'm just
01:48:25
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trying to say like where do you start
01:48:27
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with this like if you're the really big
01:48:28
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person yeah there's a way that it makes
01:48:31
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sense ok so now let's get down to like
01:48:34
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the people who are in the YouTube rewind
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smaller youtubers where we're talking
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like a million plus subscribers right
01:48:40
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yeah this is just like it's just a funny
01:48:41
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world because I think the statistics now
01:48:43
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there's something like 2,000 channels
01:48:45
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that have more than a million
01:48:45
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subscribers on YouTube it's a crazy
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number does that mean I might cut one
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one-thousandth of them yes it's exact
01:48:51
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exactly right you can
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you can twice Brady thanks James yeah
01:48:56
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that's how that works
01:48:57
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I think it's 4,000 actually but or like
01:48:59
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it's I think it's even harder than that
01:49:00
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but whatever it is the number keeps
01:49:02
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going up and every time I hear it is
01:49:03
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just it seems crazy big why they doing
01:49:05
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it okay because they think that we're
01:49:07
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gonna have more time than they did
01:49:09
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that's probably one answer well yeah
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okay thinking that they're gonna have
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more time that they do is one answer I'm
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trying to think of a nice way to
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describe a particular type of person I'm
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gonna say this I'm not talking about
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anyone in particular but I am talking
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about like the kind of people who might
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want to move to LA to become movie stars
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yeah there's a certain kind of person
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ambitious aspirational okay yeah sure
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those are nice words what I would say is
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that there are people who are empty
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inside and try constantly to fill
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themselves up with the meaningless
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approval of strangers vacuous is not
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vacuous I mean it is like they are empty
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inside and they have to constantly take
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likes and hearts and approval from
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anonymous strangers and bring it into
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themselves and maybe I've met some
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people like this and I find them
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unsettling and weird I feel like you are
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not my kind of person if you are really
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deeply wanting the approval of people
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you don't know I find it strange and
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there are a lot of people who would say
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become a vlogger on YouTube because
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that's the thing like that's the thing
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that drives them is maybe if enough
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people give me a thumbs up I won't feel
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so empty inside and so I can imagine
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that those people will say yes to
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anything that's promotion so that's one
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kind of person and you know what I'm
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totally fine with that because the
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person's making a decision like they
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want to do this thing for exposure they
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have their own internal reasons for
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doing it I have no problem with that
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but the other kind of thing that I
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suspect is happening is a lot of these
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channels are people who have gotten
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in like what is a relatively compressed
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timeframe maybe like a couple of years
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they've gone from being nobody on
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YouTube to being someone who's invited
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on YouTube rewind and I do think that
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YouTube is kind of exploiting people who
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this might be one of their first
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interactions with something like this
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and YouTube is saying oh come be part of
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this thing so I better start know better
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because I haven't been burned yet I do
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suspect that that is a a non-trivial
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number of the people who are here yeah
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that it's people who just don't have any
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experience with what is it like to
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actually film a gigantic project like
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this what does this really mean and
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YouTube is taking advantage of their
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inexperience in exchange for getting
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them to be part of this gigantic thing
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like I did when I got you to help me
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with my mile up i video yes that's true
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yeah I had no idea actually it was
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really fun Dave Brady I really like you
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didn't get much screen time for all that
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sitting around you did that yeah but see
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the difference is how much screen time
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did I want i had the reverse problem I
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had more screen time than I want
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I wanted zero screen time and there was
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some screen time there was a little bit
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sneaky screen time it's a very different
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but yeah so YouTube rewind its cringy
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it's embarrassing it's for no one I
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think it's kind of exploitive and it's
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awful and I wish you two would stop
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doing it link in the show notes yeah
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link in the show notes go enjoy it
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people make sure to give it a thumbs up
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anymore mr. chompers store I think we're
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just that's just about it for today's
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podcast ya notice everyone for listening
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thanks grey for sharing their latest
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stories chompers we'll be back in a few
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weeks time with another episode see you
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after Christmas everybody yeah I did
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sign up for an Instagram account though
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so I can follow some of these dogs so
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yeah I hope you follow Audrey I'm
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already following Audrey I'm already
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following it good I don't really get the
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Instagram but you know everyone has me
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to try it so I'm giving it a try yes