02:00:00 ◼ ► they expect a certain level of support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► for that money and I did not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► offer that level of support for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► anticipated very low customer volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► that this would probably generate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► then secondarily I realized like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► actually like strategic benefits to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► for overcast where if I supply the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► encoder and I and and I'm and I control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► the encoders UI and features for a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► of popular podcasts and I also control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► the podcast app then I can do cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► I can implement new features I can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► extend the implementations of current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► features so for instance one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► features that observant listeners might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► have noticed in a TP and an overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► over the last couple of months is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► I've had the ability to basically create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► invisible chapters chapters that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► show up in the chapter list but that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► a certain time stamp show a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► image or a link or both and but-but-but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► just are not in the table of contents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► not in the list of chapters this is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7257">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► of the mp3 chapter spec there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► they actually say like oh not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► chapter needs to be a member of a table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► of contents you could for instance show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► us just show something at a certain time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► but no apps implemented that both in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► encoding or the playing side because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► controlled the encoder and the player I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► implemented that and so now we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► podcasts where you can have invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► chapters so if you don't if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► show a certain link like right now or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► certain picture right now without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► disrupting the semantic structure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► chapter that you're currently in or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► you want to show links or images at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► certain times without having the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► the show even have chapters without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► having a chapter structure for the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► of the show at all you can now do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► that's a cool feature and I'm only able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► to do that feature because I control an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► encoder and the player and so I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► like the more people who use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7313">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► encoder the better it works out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7315">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► overcast and for podcasting as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► and so I decided you know what because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► of the combination of those strategic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► benefits and the fact that any paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► income would probably be pretty small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► and would probably bring a large support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► smallness I decided free was the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► approach so it's free but it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► free you have an interesting business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► model sort of at the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► forecast page at overcast FM / forecast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► oh yeah I say something along the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► of like you know if you use this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► find it useful for your podcasts I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► appreciate if you occasionally promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► it overcast and you don't have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► it's not a requirement and if it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► it's a show where that doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► sense like I was thinking of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► look nice today like I know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► not really production anymore but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► or even like Dubai Friday which I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► of use it's like a spiritual successor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► it doesn't make sense to promote things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► in a show like that like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► contextually fit it would sound weird so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► like I don't want you promoting overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► in a show like that but if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► show which most people do of like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► you know rate us on iTunes and subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► and just it sure whenever else occasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► we throw an overcast there that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► that's my business model is like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► appreciate if you promoted overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► sometimes but you don't have to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► are you hiding this application I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► read the web page when you linked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► Twitter but now mark org slash apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► doesn't list it that seems like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► oversight yeah I still have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► places I need to update this it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► of a soft launch I was basically launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► it on Twitter the overcast site does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► link to it from anyway overcast FM / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► forecast all right know what the icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► tongue-in-cheek joke it was created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► this wonderful the wonderful forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► towel the designer who does all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► relay FM artwork I hired him to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► icon and it's so good point nine come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► what is it at one point I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► release hi Sierra - don't you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► semver has weird problems with version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► numbers that begin with zero you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► yeah anyway I should I should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► downloaded to see the icon so what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► the joke you don't get the joke oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► so good it's a German flag but an F [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► alright yeah I see I thought it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► some sort of I should have known I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► should some sports thing like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► sports logo or something I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► yeah and a few Germans got it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► and therefore that made it worth it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► how do you look at this application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► how do you how do you feel about I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► I know this is like a utility and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► like you don't really care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► about the UI it's very utilitarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7495">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► applications for all the reasons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► listed and even some part of the UI you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► don't even use but it also doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► like you spent much time worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► what the window would look like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► might have if this was gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► commercial application like it just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► of is just kind of there like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► things aren't badly aligned except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► maybe a little bit too much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:16 ◼ ► between the buttons and the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7516">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► thing but it certainly is not not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► particularly showy application let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► no it really isn't at all and and I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► full ownership of that that this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► polished UI if you do what I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► never do which is if you manually enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► chapters it's really unpolished so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► this is not you know something that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► really proud of the UI this to me is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► is a highly functional app you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► of what I like and I mentioned on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► show a few times before but I also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► a tool that helps align double ender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► files and and remove drift in them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► is not that tool and I understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► people think it might be because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► talked about that tool before this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► separate tool that tool is an even less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► polished command line app that has tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► of weird bugs edge cases if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:12 ◼ ► use it exactly the way I use it and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7572">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► then sometimes if you do and so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► nowhere near releasable state and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► doesn't even have a GUI at all and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► the command line version is really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► particularly releasable this is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► step above that you know this has a GUI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► it is not a good interface it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► polished interface but this is a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► for pro workflows that are like mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► every uses it it works great for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► so I'm happy with that it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► justify spending a lot of time on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7605">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► like polishing it up when I also am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► maintaining overcast and having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► update that and move that forward on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► everything so it's probably never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► be incredibly polished in the UI I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► want to make sure that it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► useful and so you know like many Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► actually had a drawer and one of the bin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► one of the early versions I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► like you know it would be like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► the things that was an obvious next step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► for features for this app is to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► little player and to have it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► preview and simulate like you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► the chapters would look in a player and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► and be able to seek to them and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► them and everything to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:29 ◼ ► they're right you gotta bring back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7649">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► old visualizer from overcast yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► still have all that code obviously yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► and and so if you're gonna add a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► to this a drawer is kind of the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► way to just deprecated that like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► year I probably no I mean I wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► it but I was tempted to do it floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► brush metal window is the clear way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7673">TS</a>]
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02:08:05 ◼ ► analytics anywhere just so you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► was this market as small as you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► or have you had you know eleventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► billion downloads and turns out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► might have miscalculated I can figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► this out now or later I don't need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► this like in the app and so I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► yet in order to distribute this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► outside of the App Store which and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► honestly like I wasn't trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► some kind of giant political statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► by not being in the App Store there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► just no need for me to be in the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► Store so I wasn't I did I didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► that it was worth the the burdens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► being in the App Store for no benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► really so I'm not in the App Store so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► functionality I had to build an auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► updating and the way you do are updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► in Mac apps is through the sparkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► framework this how pretty much everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► does it everyone who used a Mac app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► that is not from the App Store has seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► little windows and say like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► it's available do you want to install an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► app you know ROM me later or skip this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7737">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► version and you click install now and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► shows like a little like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► progress bar then it quits and relaunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► is the app there's a reason why those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► are the same across pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► app they all use the same framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► called sparkle and so the way sparkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► works is once a day or whatever when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► launch the app it checks a server's RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► feed and it's a special RSS feed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► ink that is four versions of the app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► for me to distribute this I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► basically build all that and I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► made quitter I built like a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► basic version of that that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► basically all like shell scripts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► would generate static files and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► upload them to my server for forecast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► this is an overcast product I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► this live to live on the overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► servers I wanted to finally do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► little bit better of a job so I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► made my own crappy little version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► iTunes Connect or hit where like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► upload a build and a script on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:53 ◼ ► server reads the build number and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7793">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► version number out of that build signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► it for for sparkle update mechanism like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:01 ◼ ► there's a signature involved so signs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7801">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► for that and then creates like an entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► then I can enter release notes in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► released or not so I can actually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► easily add a thing to this system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► remembers how many people check that RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► feed every day and important reports to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► me roughly how many users there are or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► can just log like how many downloads the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► probably should be doing that but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:28 ◼ ► but overall the response I've gotten on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7828">TS</a>]
02:10:32 ◼ ► Twitter so far has been huge it was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7832">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► been way bigger than I expected and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► think this is really this is really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:41 ◼ ► good sign there's a lot more podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7841">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► producers out there that then the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► I know I said it isn't so many that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► regret really producing it for free be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► it I think if it wasn't free many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:56 ◼ ► them wouldn't try it because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7856">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► know me and this is just some random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7857">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► thing but because it's free it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► spreading pretty wide wider than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:04 ◼ ► expect it at the spread so quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7864">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► especially since I'm linking to it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► so so yeah so far it's it's going pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► well good and because it's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► thing to ask what was the either hardest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► or crummiest part of the entire process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► and I think that you're under the radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► episode talked about a lot of the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► oh the app is done but there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► more to do and like you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► about like you're you're Marco connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► you know in order your fake iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► Connect and all that had to be written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► but but over the entire process from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► start to finish including all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7898">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► administrivia you had to do what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:41 ◼ ► you say was the either the hardest or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7901">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► the most difficult or crummiest part to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► deal with by far the hardest part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► this app is just learning app kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:53 ◼ ► you know it's learning how to make mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7913">TS</a>]
02:11:54 ◼ ► apps you know I had made quitter before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7914">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► and I made a couple of little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7917">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► experimental dumb crap before that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► this is the first time that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► have made a Mac app of any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► substance now the good thing is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:10 ◼ ► applicant provides a lot of really rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7930">TS</a>]
02:12:12 ◼ ► functionality built in so like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7932">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► entire document model I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► worry that much about like windowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► opening saving save as stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► like a lot of that comes for free and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► that's pretty great but the the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:27 ◼ ► the actual UI works like the way those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► table views work and the text fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► inside the table views and the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► matters and the bindings to an array [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► controller all those weird stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► know to to an iOS developer mainly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► might as well be Android like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► different from the way iOS works that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► it's it's like starting over from zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► so I'm making mac apps as though I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► complete novice because for the Mac I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7972">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► that has been the hardest part is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7974">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► you know I'm used to working at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7977">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► certain speed and proficiency and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► design proficiency on iOS that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► don't have when making mac OS apps so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► it's that's been a very very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► learning process and it's also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:10 ◼ ► harder on the Mac because the api's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7990">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► have a lot more legacy because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► much older so the api's are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► clunkier they have not gotten nearly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► Cady's iOS has so they are in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► a lot harder to use or have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► antiquated or clunky things you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:29 ◼ ► do to use them and the biggest problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8009">TS</a>]
02:13:32 ◼ ► with all of it is that because iOS is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8012">TS</a>]
02:13:38 ◼ ► development relatively isn't it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8018">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► questions for Mac OS development there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► anything in under the Sun and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► gonna get a thousand Google results half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► of them are gonna be really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► tutorials like exactly what you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8032">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► do or great Stack Overflow answers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► exact exactly the problem you're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8037">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► and a Mac OS that's not the case most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► the time most time what you're searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► for you will get either nothing helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► or like one ancient mailing list post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► that you have to like scan through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:11 ◼ ► web version of a man list to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8051">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► somebody who might maybe be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► it's it's a very different world I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► just trying to think of an excuse to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:21 ◼ ► participate cast it's right you're on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8061">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► many podcasts you drop artwork here okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► it looks better I know this isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► me designing Mac OS apps it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:37 ◼ ► the way everyone designs Windows apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8077">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► it's like I don't know what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► good here like just throw something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► there that looks good using the guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► snap things in interface builder or did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► you not use interface builder for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:48 ◼ ► at all no I use it I use the guide snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8088">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► things no I mean like I built most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► the interface with cocoa bindings just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► so I wouldn't have to learn a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:56 ◼ ► intricacies of tableviews and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8096">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► the experience Mac developer scolded you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8098">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► for it yeah and then every was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► yeah I don't use cocoa but yeah thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► lot it is really nice to do certain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► and you know cocoa bindings are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:07 ◼ ► for like really simple stuff like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8107">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► enable disabled states of certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► buttons tracking certain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► properties or things being nil or things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► like that it's there's a lot of value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► cocoa bindings but like for me to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:21 ◼ ► the main problem the app has which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8121">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► the manual entry of chapters is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► clunky and weird that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► basically require dumping bindings for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► the tableview and that's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► you know I'm not gonna say it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► but it's gonna be a decent mount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► at least especially because I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:39 ◼ ► unfamiliar with it if it was I us I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8139">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► could do it in half a day but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► it's Mac OS it's gonna take me a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► longer than that and the good thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► that the app has gotten such a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► reception that I'm actually motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► do things like this to fix weird bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► that that don't affect me personally but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► I do have to also keep that in check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8154">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► with like this is not my primary job I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► primary job as overcast and I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► make sure that overcast is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► suffer for me working too much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► forecast the good thing is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► it's that I don't that's very likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► because like I've been working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:10 ◼ ► forecast for two years and the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8170">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► usually work on it is I fix some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► I've wanted to fix for a while like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► ferla over like a week and then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► touch it for six months and then I spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:23 ◼ ► another week tweaking it up and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8183">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► gotta go to the six months not touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► it because it pretty much works like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► so hopefully this this won't be a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► time second I don't think it will how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► forecasts choosing where to put its a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► window when a command man I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► like I mean so there's that weird like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► thing interface builder that little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► window graphic thing where you say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► all right kind of position it kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► the middle of the window and the left is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:51 ◼ ► like there's there's something interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8211">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► builder that lets you specify that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8212">TS</a>]
02:16:57 ◼ ► this was a conscious choice area it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8217">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► remember it does remember the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► position between quits at which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► assuming you're picking up for free as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► I think same thing but if you close all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► the windows and hit command in a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:09 ◼ ► window appears in a location that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8229">TS</a>]
02:17:11 ◼ ► it's not random it's always the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8231">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► place but it's like off-center to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► left Cup the middle vertically yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► saw that in the thing and interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:19 ◼ ► builder that accident I wasn't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8239">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► that was a global I figured it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► just use the last one and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► like the very first time it ever made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► window it would create it there no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► see that this is the problem like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► don't know how to do this unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► look at that's fine and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► that surprised me is that you use a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► every day but like you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► laid out like the Preferences dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► that's laid out like no preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► dialog in any mac app and you use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► like you see preference dialogues but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:48 ◼ ► I know I know and yet surprisingly laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8268">TS</a>]
02:17:51 ◼ ► out in kind of a weird Marco kind of way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8271">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► and the thing is that this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► I never sighs just because you use a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8278">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► application all the time doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:01 ◼ ► you you consciously know like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8281">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► making a dialog from scratch and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► like two text boxes to two radio buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► and a button how do I put them so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:09 ◼ ► looks like correct right and I had so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8289">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► like this stuff took me so long to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► to figure out because I am NOT a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► developer and like it was very very slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► going like again like it's like I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► novice because I for the Mac I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:26 ◼ ► novice and even using a Mac yes I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8306">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► saying you don't think about it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► controls out because when you see like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► Mac dialog box like it looks more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► less right but then you see one doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:37 ◼ ► quite look right there's something off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8317">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► about it but you can't quite place it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► it's like you know what would fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► is just is just because the button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► the bottom is centered is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► what is the problem with that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► I appreciate your on account your icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► does look like a Sports logo though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/8331">TS</a>]
00:00:00 ◼ ► just as a warning hey I need one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► means we need to end before midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► standing podcast desk have you gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► the 9 o'clock hour yet uh no stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/11">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► just run or stand up I just want that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► Oh God how like what like one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► minutes of activity of standing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► minute but I gotta like wiggle around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► standing you should run in place you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► get if you're under your calorie count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► for the day you run that's true I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► know how am i doing how am i doing let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► look are you finishing all three rings I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► wanted some kind of streak or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► doing Stan Lee are you still a blue ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► stud stand is the only thing I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► care about I did have a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► streak going for a long time but I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/43">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► basically I'm just a sloth as I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► blue-ringed sloth the blue ring slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► how'd you get the exercise man it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► not get the orange ring because I'm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► of shape even despite all the running so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► kidding exercise minutes is easier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► wait wait wait ok we're good ok we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► start you got it you get like a badger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► and everything everything is all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► who knows I in the right country is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► what people to in tune in for well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► your preferred date format why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► put the year first so then it like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► sorts properly this is a good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► which probably won't make the show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► if I were editing would make the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► and this is why I don't edit by hey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► reason you don't do I so what is it ATIS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► something where in your handling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► just in unbelievable amount of files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► like let's say for the sake of argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► thing you were you had all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► pictures that you've ever taken in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► folder because you're weird so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► single photograph you've ever taken is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/119">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► all in one folder on your one directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► if you will well they never called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► directories on the Mac John way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► when or is that just a DOS thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► were not ok so it's a toss thing anyways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► what did you do calls in directories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► yes Oh fair enough anyway I digress so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► if you had out any photo you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► directory then absolutely 8601 that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► computer easily ninety percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► time that I'm looking at any date I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► by context that it is the current year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► so why would I put your first that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► gets annoying and redundant there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► certain circumstances where years should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► go first but generally speaking the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► true way to store a date is day day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► month month year year because a day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► smaller than a month and a month is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► smaller than a year 8601 is ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► preposterous it is day month year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► unless you are doing machines in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► case yes 86 so the the what I'm arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► for which I guess no one I forget is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► year-month-day correct that's it so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► the reason why this is better is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► is completely unambiguous because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► no no where ever uses year day month so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► if you see a four-digit year up front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► you know that the next number is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► to be the month and then I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► is going to be the day in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► the benefits of it being like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► alphabetically sorted properly in lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► that you know that's a side benefit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► the the number one argument forward is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► that it's unambiguous that you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► that format anywhere in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► people will know how to read it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► chance of error is very very low so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► alone should win it but also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► you're a programmer the lexicographical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► sorting argument should work on you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► you know yes you know right now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► the current year guess what it won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► in a month like next month will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► different current year and if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► format that sorts correctly no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► what year you are in or what year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► stuff you're looking at is from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► seems like it would be a win so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► correct way to write a date in a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► name or in an unambiguous context is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► year-month-day see I I can't I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► disagree with you because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► you're not you're not wrong but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/262">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► because I just don't like it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► like it I'm the same person who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► so I mean Who am I to talk but to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► eyes I mean well I think we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► agree that Americans get it wrong that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► month/day/year is just preposterous it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► is truly an utterly stupid you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► make us all agree on cheese here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► this cuz I don't agree on G's only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► are agreeing on cheese what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► month/day/year is not preposterous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► filename sure it's preposterous but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► like display purposes which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► we're talking about last time you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► oh I said myself to Australia so so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► watch can display dates to me in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► way I don't want this displayed to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► year month day I want them in the dus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► system in the US system makes sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► display dates because no doesn't it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► month day is all you need to know almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► all the time and for disambiguation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► hanging out on the right hand side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► because we read from right to left if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► yeah there's year we read from right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► left all right you know what I mean left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► right no you always go day month year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/324">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► country and you shouldn't do it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► because not in this country but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► wrong we use Imperial month day month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► day makes sense month date makes us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► pretty split purposes not you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► put that in your file name because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► already outlined no this is preposterous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► John the reason you say month day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► right it's just because it's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► no I'm saying there's an argument for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► it's not just like random or wrong like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► there every each one of these formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► has its strengths and weaknesses and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/353">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► saying that we can all agree that Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► is preposterous is saying that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► no advantages to it there are there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► there is a sense there is a mnemonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► there is a sensible system for why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► date works not just because we're used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► to it which is obviously a big factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► but also there are things to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► it which is I have what I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/369">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► write-off it's only clearly right often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► in file names because that would be them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► I can get behind I can get behind month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► day when year is not a part of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► March 17 okay fine but that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► like you have that disambiguation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► it's month day and then in cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► disambiguation like during the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► changeover or if you're doing distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► future just in past dates you can throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► in the air see but then if it's months a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► are you a programmer how are you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► consumption for display purposes not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► naming your files not it's still day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► no you're saying month day year only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/409">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► because it's what you're used to by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► doing what you're doing it's like I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► I'm gonna do all my temperatures in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► Celsius I can have all my conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► in the United States and Celsius right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► no Celsius is barbarian no but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► saying is like in this country it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► way we do it there's massive advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► to doing a month day in this country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► because everyone else other that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► confuse other people and potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► also confuse yourself depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► whether you remember if you wrote it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► not no I will I will concede that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► unusual in this country however don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► you put that barbaric Celsius Celsius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► nonsense on me don't you even start sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/441">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► Celsius for human temperatures like were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► you to use it you'd be swimming against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► sure and you'd have that same confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► you should just use kelvins you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► problem solved all I'm saying is all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► saying is I can see an argument for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► you're wrong but I can see it but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► make it plain that using Celsius for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► human felt temperatures for ambient air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/470">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► temperatures is utterly ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► all of you heathens in Europe who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► otherwise are unequivocally wrong look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► at the scale zero you're it's it's cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► ish a hundred you're dead yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► right it's not even if it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► image and Fahrenheit can be encoded as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► it gets zero zero is really really cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/494">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► 100 is really really hot that's all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► need to know for ambient air 10 such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► millennial is not animated like triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/503">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► taken I like breaking my brain sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/512">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► I'm sorry we're kids anyway suffice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► say we can be I can I can allow an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► argument that 80 I can allow the 8601 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► argument I think you're wrong I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► allow the month/day/year argument I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/528">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► think you're wrong but we should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► agree the official ATP stance on Celsius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► it is utterly preposterous and wrong for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► ambient air temperature you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► science e things well you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► using Kelvin but fine use Celsius but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► for ambient air temperature it is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► in Europe should be ashamed let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► on and let's start with some follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► the route blog post in the dev forums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► that was the dev forums not the support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/552">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► forums and one or all of us got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► backwards last week that was my bed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► think we all start off saying the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► thing but I very quickly shifted into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► talking about the support forums so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► registered Apple developer to even see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► them like they're actually authentic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► kids they're not open to the public they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► are still pretty noisy and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► true that they are not a hey Apple come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► help me with my problem thing like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► developers and you have you know DTS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► support incidents or whatever for actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► you know you pay money and then Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► can help you with stuff so some of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► we said is true but it's important not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► to confuse the two types of forums the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► completely wide open public support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► forums or high volume and very noisy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► people talk about all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/598">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► emailed product security at Apple calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► about this bug on November 12th do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► want to tell us about this yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► lot of people asking about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► should Apple be poring over their forums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► or having some one or more employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► look at all that both the dev forms out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► of the support forum so they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► these bugs ahead of times and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► people saying uh posting us on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► disclose this blah blah blah what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► supposed to do is email product security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► the Apple comm and turns out somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► did actually do exactly the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► which is the email product security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► Apple to come about this exact bug on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► November 12th which was a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and I don't know if they just have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► backlog or didn't get to it or knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► about it but we're hoping they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► just sweep it under the rug until their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► fix came out in a later update I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► know what the story is but I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► was interesting that for all the yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► about the right and wrong way to report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► bugs in the right and wrong way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► Apple to know about them this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► bug long before it was widely publicized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/661">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► there's some argument that like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/672">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► disclosure or whatever where you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► the the source of the bug about it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► secretly to give them a chance to fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► and only if they don't fix it after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► long long time do you go into public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► versus quote-unquote irresponsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► disclosure where you just tell it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/688">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► public before you know at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► the vendor finds out the public does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► there is some debate about what actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► is the the best way to do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► obviously if you hear they she's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► well of course responsible disclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► where you tell the vendor first that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► the way to do it because it protects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► most people you don't want the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► that'll blah blah blah but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► problem with that approach in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► has been the defenders are like oh thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► you for telling us we'll fix it when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► get to it and then you're sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► waiting go like how long do I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► wait before you know like maybe the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► because I didn't tell the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► doesn't mean they don't just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► discovered it maybe they discovered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► now too and so you're waiting come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► come on fix the bug fix the bug then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► have to know how long do I wait before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► it's okay for me to say in public like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► what this thing is you know and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► was an article about it a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► bureaucratic process of submitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► things rather than the informal just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► email Apple policy but I'm not and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► not entirely sure that the in in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► world where information is you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► widely shared and it's so difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► know what other people know like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► long have you know blackhat hackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► known about this bug we don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► they're not going to tell us and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► don't want the one thing we have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► from these type of incidents is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► widespread publication of a bug gets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► fixed really fast and submitting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► through the proper channels does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► always get it fixed really fast so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► not quite sure what the right thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► do here is it's not not clear-cut all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► right do you want to tell us about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► Shawn writes about X protect s protect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► think is the either the internal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► external both names of the malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► system that Apple has on Mac OS where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► they have signatures of malware and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► periodically update that behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► scenes without you knowing about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► I think I mentioned in the show like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► don't even know that it's happening like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► they're updating that malware whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► feel like it and you have no choice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► the matter oh I think you can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► disable it or whatever but on a default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► system you are getting these updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► whether you like it or not unless you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► into the system preferences turn off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► little checkbox that says you get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► updates but if you're wondering when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► they happen people are actually keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► track of it and you can look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► website we'll put a link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► notes it tells you when the updates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► and what things they protect against and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► there's even a little shell script it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► will tell you the last time it updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► excellent all right so Ian Williamson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► writes in and says that someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► company Macs to Active Directory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► order to enforce corporate security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► policies I wanted to confirm that yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► causes a multitude of issues resulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► in these spinnings beat beach ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► disconnect them all and replace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► with an apple tool called Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► Connect which communicates with AD in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► much looser fashion so in case you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► not aware because your name is Marco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► you don't really have a real job Active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► Directory is the I'm sure there's a term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/862">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► for is it LDAP I don't even know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► it's it's the system by which many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► many many corporate environments manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► users and it's a Microsoft system and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► does not typically play terribly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► with Mac's which i think is slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► Omak written like Microsoft's shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► but is largely on Apple's shoulders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► so I know that my IT guy at my work has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/885">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► been complaining and moaning about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► Directory particularly recently because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► I think they might have redone it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► something it has caused him no endless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/896">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► inquiring about this enterprise connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► thing that apparently is only given to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► the coolest of of clients of apples so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► don't know if you guys have anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► add on that I'm sure Marco you do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► let's start with you I really don't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► is an entire world that I know nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► about and I'm very happy to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► knowing nothing about I wish I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► that too but alas I cannot response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► me guessing why my computer was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► slow to wake and I got beach balls all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/927">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► I was attributing to Active Directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/931">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► mostly because I had previously had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► Mac that was not on the Active Directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► network and it was just so it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► desktop too so that also helps waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► from sleep and it was immediately ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► I think it was Marco suggested turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► and and hibernate and I did that it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► not really make any change as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► can tell so I think my computer was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► hibernating and power nap was not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► issue I still you know I left the lid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► close the lid walk to my next meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► sit down open the lid and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► fairly long period of time sometimes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► long period time before I can even log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► in either with touch ID or otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► usually give up on touch ID after I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► my finger there for a while and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► has happened and then I type my password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► nothing also happens like I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► see the little dots appear on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► but very often it has registered my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► including the return key that I hit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► if I just wait and wait and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► it will unlock and then I'll try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/991">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► something that I'll get a beach ball so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► I blame salon active directory and Ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► was writing him to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► enterprise connect thing which is turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► to make a looser coupling between active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/999">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► active directory here's the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► don't I don't know almost anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► Active Directory other than the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► that I am subjected to it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► if my company my company might already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► be using Enterprise Connect I might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► using the good version like for all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► know it is worse for people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► using Enterprise Connect so I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1018">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► have honestly no way of knowing whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► I'm currently using Enterprise Connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► or not if I'm not I would love for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► company to use it but somehow I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► think that's in the cards because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► general like this time and the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► scheme of things complaining that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► computer takes a while before you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► use it when you open the lid and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► know it's not that long it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► complaint that is probably falling on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► enterprise IT I just kind of wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► didn't have to deal with it we respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► to this week by fracture beautiful photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► prints directly on glass visit fractured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► on me and save 15% off your first order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► with code ATP 17 fracture prints look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► amazing you know you should get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► if you just post them online like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► of us do after 12 hours they're off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► everyone's timelines you'll never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► them again but if you get them printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► you have an actual artifact that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► hang up in your house or prop up on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► desk or even better give it as a gift to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► someone who will really enjoy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► this could be something traditional like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► giving grandparents pictures of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► grandchildren and their grandpa peas or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► it can be something fun that you do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► your friends like maybe you send each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► other pictures that you that are inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► jokes to you that you find funny or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► pictures and fun times you had together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► family friends co-workers whoever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► they make wonderful gifts and fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► knows this so do a lot of other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► so if you want to get it done in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► for the holidays please place your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► orders now because here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► every fracture they care a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► quality so every fracture is handmade by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► human beings in Gainesville Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► right here right in the US they are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► green company operating a carbon-neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► factory they do things very very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► but what this means having all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► human you know hand involvement here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that the holidays they get backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► sometimes and so it's pretty close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► the holidays now they are already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► starting to get a large volume of orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► in if you want a gift in time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► holidays from fracture with which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► strongly recommend because these prints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► look great they go edge to edge they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1134">TS</a>]
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00:19:38 ◼ ► week I got just a little bit fired up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► with regard to the keyboard behavior on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► iOS I have two pieces of follow-up about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► this number one I had assumed it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► me and that I'm just inept and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► tremendous amount of people write in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► it's become hot garbage now nobody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► agree on when this happened a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► people said the same thing I did which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► was right around iOS or I'm sorry it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► iPhone 6 ish whatever iOS was around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► that time some people have said no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► it's actually with iOS 11 which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► disagree with but a lot of people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► no no you are not alone I cannot type my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► type of my phone anymore that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I have been mildly browbeat by my curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► to try G board which is Google's third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► party keyboard which is pretty good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► I haven't trying that and when I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► typing rather than swiping I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► it's not any better which makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► this is a KC problem not an iOS problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► and apparently it's also a tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► of listeners problem all at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► time because if I can't type on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Google keyboard and I can't type on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► Apple keyboard then that makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► I'm the problem or perhaps it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► Apple was uniquely good at figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► what I meant and auto correcting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► or perhaps the the touch targets were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► expected them to be and now they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► like somebody had suggested I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► remember who it was that maybe their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► touch targets got way bigger when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► they're predicting what you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► type so like let's say I'm typing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► word there th e re then as so I type th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► e and the touch target for the letter R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► because you know Apple thinks oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► Betty's gonna type in R the touch target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► for R is just mammoth and if I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► to type they then maybe I'll get the th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► er instead does that make any sense it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► a very it's very hard to paint this word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► picture but what I'm driving at is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► predictive touch target enlargement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► is a possible explanation though that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► completely supposition and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► facts to indicate that's that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► in any case one way or another I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► trying G board and it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► working for me so far so it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► think it's a KC problem but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► if you guys have any feedback on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► that means it's the case problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► you said that G board is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► different keyboard right so that you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► have no idea what if how you how you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► typing on keyboard but you like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► have the feeling and many many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► people who wrote and also have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► feeling that they were previously better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► typing on the Apple keyboard and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► weird thing about the feedback like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► put it in here is like basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► you're not alone but incredible variance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► in the people people some people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► it started two years ago it started with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► iOS 10 yeah it started when I changed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► a bigger phone and start when I change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► to a smaller phone and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► you just tap into some sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► deterioration of mass deterioration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► typing skills because it doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► be any common thread like not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► like everyone agreed that iOS 11 hos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► that there was not that agreement but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► lots of people really feel like they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► now worse at typing than the use maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► they're just all getting older and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like one of the first places that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► they're noticing that they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► older what the only thing I saw that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► think could be attributable to software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► is people complaining about autocorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► going behind them and changing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► last three or something nonsensical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► I've noticed that as well and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► that is a new software edition where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► previously didn't used to like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► moved on from something that be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► that's fine but now it has like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► kind of thing where reconsiders the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► five words you've written and says oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► see you were probably trying to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► this write this sequence of nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► five words and it goes back and corrects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► them and that people find infuriating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► and if you're getting so do I yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► completely agreed I'm glad you brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► that up because I'd forgotten about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► and yes I've seen that behavior and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► Marco any thoughts about this point move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► on I mean iOS changes autocorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► behavior in lots of versions like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► know I'm sure iOS 10 changed in one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► I always loved and changed at different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► ways now does like the machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Corrections that are resulting in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► embarrassing bugs like that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► turning into the a box thing and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► IT from it thing they're gonna work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► out you know I hope they do but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► there's definitely changes here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► there's been changed before and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► worked it out the only other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► could think of it might be a factor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► you is that you're also on an iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► now because a different physical size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► for the last few years and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► also probably contributing to just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► different and your body has to get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► to it it could be but I mean this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► been happening since before the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► that's what I mentioned last week that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► are you sure it's not the size in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► he said well it could be but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► other factors as well and everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► was said who complained about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► very adamant that no it's not the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► except for the few people who said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► was the size but yeah it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► difficult in this type of thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► even if it's not machine learning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► yeah the machine learning is the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► thing where it's not like a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► program the exact set of rules for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► behave it's supposed to learn on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► and improve so it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► know exactly how its behaving because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► it's very much data-driven but even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► the rules based ones if the rules are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► complicated enough and changed often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► enough it still doesn't really help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► is this a better system than the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► that preceded it did it did our tweak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► this set of static rules help or hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► it's kind of I mean I'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► you'd even measure that it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► satisfaction what typing satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► measurement you just use face ID to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► at the person's face and see if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► making a face like they just smelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► something gross as they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► speaking of smelling something gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► tell me about your touch bar you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► smell the Dutch bar but do touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► globe don't smell the globe smell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► sniff the glove come on chat room help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► me I'm old and my brain doesn't work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► have no idea what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► yeah I noticed I didn't even bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► asking you to yeah well that was wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► you know as well smell the glove okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► thank you I feel a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► final tap yeah still not your scene that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► I should turn it up to 11 what I do yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► there you go you know something's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► so I just wanted to mark this this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► in time where I got my 20 17 touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► micro whenever it was a couple months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► ago and I've been using it and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► despite the fact that's mostly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► clamshell on my desk want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► meetings and travel around the office I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► do use it as an actual laptop and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► really feel like I've given the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► bar you know a fair shake despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► continuing day the escape button or lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► did something that I've wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► since they want but I've been resisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► which has changed that preference in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► keyboard settings that tells it to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► applications to change the touch bar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► that when you're in Safari you see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► safaris thumbnails and when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► mail you see like the mail buttons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► all that stuff right there's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► setting in System Preferences and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► keyboard system preference it says don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► do that just show me the like the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► controls all the time so the function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► keys and media control and the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► things basically making it like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► static graphical version of the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► keys that are on the MacBook Escape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► I read isn't doing that because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► look if you're going to give the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► supposed to be used use it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► default settings allow the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► to do all their stuff with it this who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► knows maybe there's some application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► that you use that you'll find the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► bar really useful and that was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► distracting as the touch bar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► changed from thing to thing as that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► command tabbed around and so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► changed it to be static now so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► effectively using little pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► keys that never change and I still wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► they were regular keys so I put me down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► in the category of I can't say I'm an T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► touch bar because I just don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► laptops and so if I had to buy a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► it having a touch bar or not probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► the least of my concerns but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► find a place for the touch bar in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► life I just don't find myself looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► that part of the machine when I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► it at all and maybe it's just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► have all habits or whatever but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► didn't work out for me you were you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► talking with some people in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► slacks that were in together and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► were talking about uh it wasn't window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► shade but I can't think of what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► so let's just call it window shade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► you were talking about you know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► still have window shade enabled again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► wasn't literally window shade but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► have window shade enabled even to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► day because you can't live without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► this example people gonna think I've run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► window shade let's be clear I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► well yeah I know but I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► what the hell you talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► classic Mac window layering that's gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► be it right maybe I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► doesn't really matter the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► like window layering if I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► conversation Greg there's people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► know what that is but anyway I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► sure that's what it was so do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► to briefly describe what that is then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► that's just when you when you click a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► window and classic Mac OS any window on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► the screen if the window belongs to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► different application than the frontmost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► one like an app when it belongs to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► application that's not currently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► it doesn't just bring that window to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► front it brings that window and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► other windows owned by that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► to the front and that's how I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► use the Mac for 16 years before Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► 10 came along that way and that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► like to use it and so I've during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► entire life of Mac OS 10 and on Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► there have been various utilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► would change the window server behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► to act that way but in the Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► timeline not only do you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► utilities I've use have allowed you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► get back the other behavior because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► maybe you show it behaviors I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► what if I just want wind one window to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► come to the front that behavior is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► not what I want at all all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► just a matter of what you prefer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► with the tools that I use you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► changing what the default is so for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► shift click brings a single window to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► the front and just regular click blings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► all the windows have long to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► application to the front and some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► may like you to reverse where a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► click just brings that one window and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► then some modifier click brings all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► windows or maybe you never want all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► windows to come but how I work based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► I want the default to be all windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► come to the front so I still do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► shift-click doesn't do it by default it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► doesn't seem but anyway no no is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► utility I think I'm using drag thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► do it right now but it's very I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► native like the regular Mac out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► box doesn't have a way for you to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► all the windows to the front other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► clicking like a dock icon or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► like there's no modifier click on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► window to noon I think in any case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► reason I bring all this up is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► struck me hearing you talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► that you and many other like old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► Mac people created these habits over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► course of years that either because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► petulantly stubborn or just used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► and probably both to be honest you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► I am glad that the list of things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► have that are like that I feel like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► pretty small not to be fair Oh a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► child yes you think it's the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► small because your world hasn't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► changed wait until everyone's in VR and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► you're gonna be like I insist on using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► my fingers because I use my fingers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► a really long time and you know what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► to that end actually the obvious answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► to this is no case you still prefer max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► so you're old and you're you're relying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► on old technology so your point is fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► but it's just it's striking to me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► you don't really like new things John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► think you're taking the wrong lesson for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► this lesson this is like what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► advantage for me changing my habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► there has to be an advantage that's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► be a reason for me to train myself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► of doing something that one reason could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► be that there is literally no way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► it the old way so guess what like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that's the stick version you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► choice there is no more of that thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► forget about it and whatever but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► there is a way to do it it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► strips like what is the cost of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► enabling this way is it some hack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► destroys your system stability is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► something that you have to maintain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► carefully like upgrade and compile from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► jailbreaking where every time a new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► jailbreak or whatever like that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► the cost and the benefit is you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► to continue to use your old habits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► it's not just habits in the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► winter layering the way I use Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► like my entire system of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► dealing with Windows like this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► important part of it the fact that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► grab a corner of a window that belongs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► to an application and bring all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► windows of that application to the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► like I don't have an alternate way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► manage windows in that way like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► want to bring all the windows at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► front I've got to go down to the dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► icon but that that breaks my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► system of arranging windows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► spatially to have to use them as sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► grab handles and to have locality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► cursor and not to constantly have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► down to the bottom of the screen or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► the right or to the left or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► there are benefits to that system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► from for this particular feature the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► drawbacks in terms of system stability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► or maintenance of a weird program or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► anything just haven't been there unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► for example window shade which I ran for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► a little while but eventually it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► clear that Apple was never going to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► really add that some really nasty hacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► abandoned window shade but this I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► abandon because it is a very minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► change very cleanly implemented by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► multiple products that don't require any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► hacks to my system whatsoever and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► keep doing it so the lesson is not never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► learned new things or don't pick up new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► habit or whatever the lesson is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► don't don't blindly abandon the old for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► no benefit if there you know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► continues to work for you yeah but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► benefit is not having to do any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► tweaking right like something that Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► Benjamin said years and years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► ago which I I don't a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► agree with but I understand his point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► was that like one should embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► operating system defaults because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► that much less tweaking and finagling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► messing about you need to do when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► get a new machine you know because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► can just accept the defaults and move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► insignificant list of software that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► considered completely required for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► use a computer for example Alfred for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► example one password for example Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► but in terms of like tweaking the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► I don't feel like I'm that particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► needy I I say that because I'm probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► more needy than then I realized but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► don't think I'm that bad where is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► seems like John and maybe this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► your advanced stage maybe it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► advanced experience but the platform but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► it seems like you're more needy in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► department than I am I think I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► less stuff than you as evidenced by my a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► nice clean menubar but like but argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► only makes sense if you are forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► live in a hotel environment where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► have to sit down in front of a fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► computer every day and start your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► like we have migration assistant we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► upgrade installs of operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► like this is not an issue at all like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► don't spend time setting up my new Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► like for the people who do that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► it's a fun thing they like to do well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► just wanna have a fresh system and reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► it up I never reset up a machine from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► scratch I just I just do an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► install or use migration assistant all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► my stuff is already there and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► that much stuff and dragged thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► running anyway because I like to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► thing on the screen that I can click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the just has applications in it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► minimize windows or folders in it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► use that as a separate application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► separate from its functionality for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► window layering but it just happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► also do window layering so I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► two for one out of that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► application but no there's not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► stuff I have my favorite applications I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► run I think it runs zero system hacks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► any kind anymore like like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► zero like nothing is a kernel extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► or a symbol plug-in or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► I don't I run very few things that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► display in the menu bar I run favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► applications I like BBEdit I like drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► thing which is the plain old application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► with no weird hacks you know I run slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► like we all do whether we like it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► I was gonna say do any of us really run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► slack or to slack run us like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► a yeah it's a it's a fairly clean set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► and as we all know it's not like I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► new Mac so often that I'm constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► setting my handles everything for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► like honestly I don't I don't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► particular advantage in being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► stone and then in front of anybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► random computer and be able to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► comfortably because first of all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► not true for almost anybody like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► sit down there hit command space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► spotlight comes up what are you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► where's your Alfred now right now like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► don't there's the whole point is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► except software you can install things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► on it to make it nicer to use that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► we like Mac's and so I have I attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► no benefit to being able to use a stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► Mac comfortably so do you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► squirrel direction as natural or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► bogus old one I have the old way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► again it's a setting that I said once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► back when they changed that setting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► seven years ago I've never touched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► setting again because it just migrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► from computer to computer like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► know how long did you try natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► scrolling John no not at all like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► the benefit huh Apple added the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► for that why would I try it like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► you know it's not Apple at the option so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► I didn't feel like I had to run in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► ax it happily takes away the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► guess what I'm gonna switch scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► directions because what the hell choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► right but they haven't taken it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► it's still there and I can I click that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► checkbox once many many years ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► never think about it again so Marco are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► you natural scrolling or no didn't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► talk about this recently I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► did I thought we did but I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► remember the I did but Casey tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► forget yeah I'm also old scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► I like I tried I tried natural scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► when that option came out for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► half a day and I was like nope because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► god you're both sold for the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► no because for the same reason I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► already used to it and there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► pressure to actually change so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► why should I go through the hassle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► relearning this when I don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► have to and maybe down the road I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► have to but when that happens I'll learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► it until then I don't want to and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► spend time click on that checkbox lot no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► you do it once and that's it even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► frequency I buy new max it isn't a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► problem we are sponsored this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► aftershocks bone conduction headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► go to ATP aftershocks calm to learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► aftershokz headphones worked by a bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► conduction this means small transducers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► rest in front of your ears not inside or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► around them like most headphones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► they send tiny vibrations through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► cheek bones directly to your inner ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► totally bypass in your ears themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► so unlike every other kind of headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► completely open with nothing plugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► them up or going around them so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► great first of all for comfort for me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► least I can't wear things that go in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► ear they just hurt after socks don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► have that problem they're also great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► exercise and hot weather because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► don't have some kind of giant ear cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► making your ear all sweaty because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► there's nothing actually resting on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► ear it's just it's a little tiny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► that touches right in front area and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► they're also ip55 certified for water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► resistance in case you get really sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► or it starts raining and the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► difference is after shocks and this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► me is what defines them this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► defines whether they're right for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► and this will either sound great or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► awful to you is that nothing is blocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► your ears at all so you hear all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► sound from the world around you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► addition to what you're listening to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► this is actually not so great in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► very loud place like a subway station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► something like taking a walk outside or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► walking through a city where you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► be able to hear what's around you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► practicality or safety reasons they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► also great while jogging or while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► cycling because you really don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► be listening to anything that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► block out sound when you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► something where the environment around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► you matters also just around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► or around the office you can take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► you can do things like listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► podcast or take a phone call while also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► hearing if say your kid upstairs wakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► up from their nap or there's a knock on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► the door and it's the UPS person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► something so they're great for all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► of situations where you want to hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► in addition to what you're listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► the flagship model in the after Sox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► lineup is the trek titanium and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► Trek's air these are both great options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► I've had both now I've had a few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► with each one and you really can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► wrong with either wanting to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► the Trek's titanium is a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► pocketable the treks air is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► lighter and a little more comfortable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► priorities are they're both fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► you can't go wrong both of them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► great battery life they have a two year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► warranty and honestly either one you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► pretty you're pretty well off so check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► it out today at ATP aftershock to calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► once again ATP aftershocks calm and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► can also use code ATP if you want to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► aftershocks for sponsoring our show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► wish to move on from these turf wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► that I'm starting I and why doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► somebody tell me about this link about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► Johnny I've and him hearing our Macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► criticism yeah this there's many been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► many Johnny I've article recently most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► of them live just since the paper didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► haven't read but this one had a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► that I wanted to pull it was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► someone asking Johnny I have about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► know current Apple stuff and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► actually giving answers and so here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► quote from this article which we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► link is Johnny I've saying absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► all of your feelings and feedback around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► the MacBook you use we couldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► listen more and we hear boy do we hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► so this is it's not much of a statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► but it's merely merely confirmation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► if you think Johnny I've created the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► current line of MacBook and MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► and thinks they're perfect and has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► idea that people have complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► them that is not the case he pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► emphatically stated basically yes I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► heard complaints about this computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► two things one we want to hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► feedback about it it's not like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► saying we made a perfect thing and screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► you if you don't like it and two they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► definitely hearing it so I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► was refreshing because there's so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► communication inside Apple that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► could have a bunch of podcasts were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► bunch of people ramble on about how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► seems like apples not listening to us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► might live in a bubble and don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► the things that we're saying and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► not the case maybe the the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► roundtable this past spring was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► the most straightforward honest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► almost apologetic statements to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► Apple has ever really given you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► that was like the only time they've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► kind of done mea culpa I'm like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► this this product week we kind of messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► up and and we're gonna fix it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► think we're gonna get one of those for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► the problems of the current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► of MacBook Pro but this is about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► close as you can get I think this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► statement to me says like you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► was this was not some like off-the-cuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► accidental thing that he let slip out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► like I'm sure he I'm sure he thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► about that before he said it and knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► what he was saying and I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► as close as they're going to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► there's been a lot of negative feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► about this generation of laptops and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► hear you yeah and we don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► you know it could be that what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► is still doesn't satisfy satisfy some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► people don't sighs fellas but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► but you can't say at this point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► they have their heads in the sand which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► is the thing that you could have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► was they're so they're so bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► giving any sort of transparency to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► thinking because all you hear is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► the earnings call and about how many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► these things they're selling and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► their profits that are great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► like you have this fear that like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► they think everything is awesome because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► they're selling more like and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► customer satisfaction they ever sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► before like all everything looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► you know and you you worry that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► your concerns are irrelevant because who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► cares what you think about the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► if tons of people are buying them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you're wrong and Apple should do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► customers happy right and that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► fear of being marginalized but to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► this direct feedback that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► boy do we hear like that not only do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► oh yeah we hear still be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► problems but like that the Johnny I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► particular is probably getting an earful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► about like you know slimline keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► that he insisted on or whatever who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► knows but the particular details are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► I you know I like I like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► communicating to the public something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► that says we acknowledge you and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► merely acknowledging doesn't mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► agree with you it doesn't mean you we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► going to do what you want but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► say we're not sticking our head in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► sand and pretending you don't exist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► not disregarding you like they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► have said like what kind of already said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► about Apple Park where's another quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► that didn't pull from here which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► I don't understand when people complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► about Apple park is essentially like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► didn't build it for you you don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► for Apple it's for people who work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► Apple and we know how people who work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► complaining about our building like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► we're not building a house for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► that's a different kind of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► which is like we hear you but we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► you are not what is it you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► standing we hear you but we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► yeah you don't have standing you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► a party in this conversation like do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► work at Apple then maybe we'll listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► you about how much you like the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► where you have to work if you work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► Apple or not you don't have to visit my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► old campus do but anyway but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► don't work at Apple you can have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► opinions but we're not gonna listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► it because we're building you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► place where Apple employees right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► obviously I feel like if someone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► more of an apple never thinking to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► back with giant said yeah but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► employees also have complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► this spaceship and so you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► these are in my complaints I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► conveying to you the things that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► heard Apple employees tell me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► anonymously or otherwise about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► want to have private offices and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► blah is everything but clearly Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► was not ready to to accept that feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► about Apple Park but he seems ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► accept the feedback about the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► the question is what happens next or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► what has already happened because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► talked about before the timelines on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► hardware designs are long and for all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► know eight months ago they already made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► keyboard plans for the next line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► laptops and we'll find out when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► ask ATP and we begin with Josh Keegan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► who writes I grew up a huge book reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► my wife did two combined we have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► or four bookcases full of paperbacks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► hard covers I recently decided that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► should get rid of them they seem archaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► to me now in the age of e-books my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► disagrees and so they remain do you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► have a lot of books in the house just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► keeping paper books seem old-fashioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► to you let me start by saying having us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► adjudicate your marital deliberations is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► probably not a wise choice but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► being said I we Aaron and I are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► pretty big readers Aaron more so than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► I feel like I just don't have time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► it probably because I'm spending too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► because I'm an idiot but nevertheless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► do enjoy reading novels I do quite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► reading a physical book if I if I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► prefer physical book over anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► unless I'm travelling but anyways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► don't see a problem with books if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► don't need the space for anything else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► don't know why you would get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► but I am NOT one that is deeply bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► by by I'm gonna say clutter although it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► doesn't sound like it's clutter stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► contained in a books yes stuff thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► so I say my vote is keep them unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► have a reason for that space but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► just me Marco what do you think we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► some books there they're in a bookshelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► in the living room it's a nice big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► built-in thing and it would look weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► if it was empty and so we keep a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► we don't actually really add or remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► or use the books there very often and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► most of the books just sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► but that is a useful function they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► pretty on these giant shelves that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► built into our house and if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► gone it would be weird so you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► what you just had case like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► really I don't see any problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► having them there they're not causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► any harm they don't have any needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► really and there's nothing else that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► at the moment so if that ever changes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► we really need the space or if for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► reason we want to tear those shelves out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► of out of the walls then sure I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► push to get rid of to get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► then but if they're not causing problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► for you I don't I don't see why you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► get rid of them I like books I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► collected books since I was very young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► not just for the words on the pages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► to the point where I would buy multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► copies of a book I like because I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► the books as objects you know special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► editions of books leather-bound versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► of books books with fancy illustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► or shiny covers a really thick paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► stock I like books as objects yeah in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► addition to liking the words in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► when I went to work for what was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► time the largest ebook seller in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► world back in back in the early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► before Amazon even got into the game I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► got converted to ebooks pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► wholesale so I prefer to actually read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► books in electronic form but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► have a huge soft spot for the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► books I would do the things where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► a book for him but then by the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► edition hardcover just to put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► Shelf that I literally never opened so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► I'm obviously very Pro book my problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► is if you if you were like this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► really like books as physical objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► and you're not fantastically wealthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► eventually you will run out of room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► put books our house is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► overflowing with books most bookshelves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► double and triple stacked with books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► the Attic and so now I've mostly put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► moratorium on buying more paper books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► because I I can't I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► displace any books that I have so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► beautiful coffee table books filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► illustrations or like those really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► gigantic awesome making of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► books that had that I have lots of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► and illustrations in them that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► difficult to do in electronic form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► unless someone gives me my 27 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► pro so I am all for physical books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► like so many physical objects if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► probably eventually run out of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► why does Apple refused to make desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► back like keyboards gaming keyboards go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► crazy with any on lights do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► Apple would ever make a desktop keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► with just enough light to see your keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► I have a hard time answering this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► question because I can touch type and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► have been able to for a very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► so this having lights on my keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► does not really help me I presume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► they don't really have any interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► this because it would you know cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► the battery on your magic keyboard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► drain even faster and yes I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► easily rechargeable you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► nevertheless you know it's nice not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► having to plug my keyboard in but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► every month or two and so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► they will personally but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► that's my two cents mark we went to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► first last time so John what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► think even if you touch type the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► they have the light of keyboards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► laptop is they think people will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► using them in dark places and yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► can touch type but can you touch type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► the media keys can you touch type the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► function keys most people can't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► it's just too far of a reach and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► just too weird and you casually have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► glance and see you know where is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► know f7 or where is the pause key or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► know or whatever I mean help with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3058">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► new keyboards you can't even touch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► keys yeah well you can eventually if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► feel for the little divider and the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► halves the key is for top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► before you go to the left right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► anyway it's annoying so I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► a place for backlighting on keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► even for touch typists but for desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► keyboards if you're using a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► keyboard in a dark place that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► your choice probably like it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► a laptop where you may find yourself on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► a plane where everybody's sleeping or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► you know in an environment where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► lighting is not ideal and like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► you do have the charging difficulty so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► don't think Apple's opposed to back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► the keyboards I wouldn't expect any neon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► ones I feel like it's a thing I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► Apple shipping if they could if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► could sort out the battery issues they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► would probably ship it you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► because someone will get it in an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► that it's at its usual thing to have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► they can charge a little bit more Ani [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► for the backup version they would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► but honestly unless someone inside Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► is really passionate about this I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► see them leaving it as a third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► opportunity as they say because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► haven't come out with one by now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► obviously don't think it's a big need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► you know using PC gaming keyboards that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► are full of LEDs as an example is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► good example of why Apple should do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► because things are hideous and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► if you if Apple knows those exist which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► I kind of hope that no one there knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► but if they do know they would use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► as an argument and why not to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► things but yeah also as you mentioned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► would have to be charged you definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► more frequently also I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► you know the need for word is less on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► desktops because desktop screens are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► much bigger and you keep them so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► brighter usually because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► battery concern but there's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► good chance there's the light from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► screen lights up the keys enough to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► you where the keys are even in a pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► dark room so I think the need for it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► significantly lower it does however just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► look cool like when it's done right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► the way apples are done with subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► white lighting and supposed to blue LEDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► when done tastefully like that it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► look really cool it just looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► nice luxury product like on the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► this isn't to say that they should never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► do it but I don't think they will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► because again charging needs the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► actual like physical need for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► you can see your keyboard usually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► like in desktops and also that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► desktop keyboards are just a pretty low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► they don't really redesign them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► often or put that much effort into them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► so I even you know from that point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► view I think it would be very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► argue that Apple should you know put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► the effort to make that happen on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► hardware line that they update what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► every ten years all right and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► pretend stats have rights how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► dynamic ad targeting and podcasts work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► listeners but Marco has said that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► can only really know how many downloads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► the mp3 podcast file gets and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► about it when it comes to data save for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► proprietary apps and then he added this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► one is for Casey I'm not sure because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► feel like I am deeply in ill-equipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► answer this question but this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► like it's two different things to me all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► rolled into one or maybe I just would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► like someone Marco I guess to clarify so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► when I when I hear dynamic in podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► what I think is there is there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► I don't know servers for lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► better description or networks where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► they know that an ad starts at ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► minutes and it is two minutes long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► they can run an ad in that spot for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► week or two and then change that ad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► be something else and they'll Rhian code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► or I'm assuming re-encode the mp3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► for two weeks it'll be the next ad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► then so on and so forth but but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► proton is talking about is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► than that if I'm not mistaken which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► Oh Casey is a white male that is in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► let's give him these ads as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► different ones so Marco can you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► tell me what this is all about yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► the latter theory you have is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► correct one so the reason the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► this came up and the reason I put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► here as a question I wanted to answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► that a lot of people are starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► hear what are pretty clearly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► dynamically on demand inserted ads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► usually popular podcasts this past year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► there have been a lot of major podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► like from major producers like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the public radio producers and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► the big networks major producers are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► frequently using dynamic ad insertion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► download on every request that the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► gets every you know download request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► from a client or a web browser can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► different ads in it they don't do every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► encoding they do it by splicing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► the mp3 file format is very very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► splice which might lead into a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► topic if we ever get to it the so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► basically what they do is your download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► request from your podcast player or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► web browser hits they're basically add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► splicing server and based on your IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► address and anything you can glean from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► your headers which fortunately for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► podcast app is pretty minimal but it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► at least tell usually which podcast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► you're using what kind of device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► what OS version it has and you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► your IP address it can derive your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► approximate location now if it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► ad network and if it's integrated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► web ads then they can also derive other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► things that things that a web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► can pick up and they can correlate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► data based on your IP address and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► know and maybe you know maybe some idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► of what your phone model is they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► then correlate that with other data they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► have from other sources like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► Facebook or Twitter or other big ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► networks and they can figure out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► about you but all the podcast app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► providing is whatever whatever the e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► they would get if you fetched say an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► image off their servers which is your IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► address and a user agent header that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► it but that is enough that you that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► lot of people report hearing like an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► for a local car dealership in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► of a podcast from a national provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and that creeps people out and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► wonder what's going on a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► they blame overcast or they ask me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► hey what's this how did this work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► yeah this is just these big publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► are now very very frequently using these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► dynamic ad insertion platforms and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► way it works is pretty simple as is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► like you know they derive whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► can from your IP address and the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► agent header and then they they throw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► an ad and mp3 is a very forgiving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► simple format it's very very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► take chunks out of and splice in so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► their CMS is when they produce the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► you can put an ad at you know these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► timestamps in the show the main problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► I have with it as as a listener first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► all is it's kind of creepy in the ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► are pretty oftentimes pretty low value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► ads because there are things like car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► dealerships and it just turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► basically what radio ads were which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► not something any of us should ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► ascribe or aspire to because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► really you know bargain-basement low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► price low value ads so hopefully that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► not the world we're heading towards here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► but also it causes other problems so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► instance the mp3 file format specifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► length in about three different ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► a lot of times these these splicing ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► correctly so it causes weird problems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► players like mine where sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► certain files will say and two minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► early because that's the amount of AD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► they injected and they forgot to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► the duration or their platform didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► it right or something like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► seeking will be slightly broken or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► other the other major problem is even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► you get past the technical hurdles there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► because the ads they insert are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► consistent lengths it starts to erode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► the value of timestamp links so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► can't for instance say oh you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► hear you know this you know NPR podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► at at 17 minutes because you're the 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► minutes when you download the file might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► be a different part of the file then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► then what the person who is telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► that had and their copy of the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► because if you had ten minutes of ads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► yours and they had seven minutes of ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► in theirs you're gonna be three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► off so it arose the value of sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► timestamps and and of referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► damaging to the spread of podcasts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► ultimately I don't have any real say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► this they're gonna do what they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► do they are doing it and I've tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► argue with some of these producers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► shouldn't be doing this but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► anyway so oh well this is where we live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► in now and that's how it works it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► pretty basic and I wish it didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► that way but it does the good thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3579">TS</a>]
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00:59:44 ◼ ► tracking you know when you fetch a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3584">TS</a>]
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00:59:55 ◼ ► Paige can collect about you is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► data that a podcast publisher can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► collect about you because when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► podcast downloads the file it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► playing a media file it is not executing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► arbitrary code supplied by the publisher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► so they can't add any more tracking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► collect any more data or observe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3614">TS</a>]
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01:00:23 ◼ ► information they have again they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► correlate that if they know more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► that IP address from other sources but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► as far as the podcast player and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► all it's giving them but the scary thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3632">TS</a>]
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01:00:35 ◼ ► don't think about is that they do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3635">TS</a>]
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01:00:39 ◼ ► about your IP address because chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3639">TS</a>]
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01:00:44 ◼ ► have hit a webpage somewhere that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► some Facebook embedded widget they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/3646">TS</a>]
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01:08:06 ◼ ► happened with a lot of people who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► set their date back where once the bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► fix was out they're like oh the they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► fixed the bug but now I can't FaceTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► with people and it was because they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► said the date back and now their face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► or whatever was yeah and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► suffering from the fallout of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► attempted fix so it's counterintuitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► if you haven't dealt with any of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► but perhaps surprisingly changed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► data on your computer or phone can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► will cause all sorts of weird problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► that are difficult to attribute or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► diagnose and won't give you nice error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► messages that say oh you change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► date so I would suggest that if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► among all the options that you have pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► that one last pick that one after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► know prefer the option of simply turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► so I disagree I'd also add to the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► will sink bugs and possible data loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► with apps that sink yes because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► sink engines are the a lot of sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► engines try to resolve merges changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► and conflicts using time this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► always the best approach but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► basically how a lot of them do it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► so sometimes it salts antennas all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► you've got depending on how the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► service works right and there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► sorts of methods to sync but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► using time to help resolve like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► changed what lasts and whose version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► there should be the authoritative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► version is a very very common way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► it so if you change your date back not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► only are you likely to not only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► causing a whole bunch of other weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► stuff to happen for instance late you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► now created like two copies of December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► 1st in your computing environment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► like so like things can be written to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► the to the file system or things can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► changed or things can be dated in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that makes them seem like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► sequential in one direction but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► were actually sequential in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► direction or like there's so many weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► things that can happen this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► usually happen with daylight saving time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► bugs because a that doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► change the underlying unix time value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► the computer and be you're normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► asleep between 2:00 and 3:00 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► morning so it doesn't usually affect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► and here because you're not usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4198">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► using a computer at that point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► changing your clock backed by a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► day gives you a large opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► make a whole bunch of changes and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► create data and make edits to things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► things like that in a way that will very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► much confuse software and cause weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► bugs to happen that you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► immediately see see and I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► that but I think two different comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► in the chatroom kind of sum up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► opinion psycho Mac head said tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► things not working is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► everything not working and I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► that because I your guys aren't wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► you're absolutely right but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► know at the time and I knew I was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► to go to sleep for the evening and cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► into this no-man's land I didn't know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► the time how bad the error was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► heard it was just a constant respring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► but I didn't know if it was a constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► ray spring every two seconds every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► minutes every two hours and I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► leave myself the ability to say I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► know do a software update without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► to worry about the respring happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► every two seconds now as it turns out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► was not every two seconds there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► every like two or three minutes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► I knew I was about to go to sleep but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► like Marco said data loss like turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► your phone off is still the preferable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► one like until the dust settles because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► if you had a sink in just now thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► server-side version is newer than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► than your day old data which is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► updated a second ago and it overwrites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► your locally edited information with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► stuff from the server like you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► actually done anything but you've merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► changed the date back so it's confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► about what the latest stuff is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► brings that like you could have data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► loss whereas you know the respring thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► or even just restarting there was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► mention of data loss in that and either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► way if you want to avoid it entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► turn your phone turn your phone off shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► it down and wait to find out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► deal is that is that is the safest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► I don't not saying like you know saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► like say it's not the end of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► like it's you you made a call and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► probably knew the risks better than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► people this is mostly for other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► who think that changing the date has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► risks associated with it you emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► that it has lots of risks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► fallout from it can ripple through for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► long time and can be hard to distinguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► problems caused by you changing the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► and problems caused by the bug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► problems that still linger after the bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► is fixed and like I said I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► happened people who change the date had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► problems when they tried to apply the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► software update because they had changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► the date see but the thing is though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► didn't know or at least I didn't know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► the time I made this decision what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► gonna happen and and I don't think just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► turning off my phone in Waiting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► next day and trying on another device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► see what the fix was that to me is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► valid option because what if for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► sake of discussion it was a respring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► every two seconds what am i how am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► going to accomplish anything at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► everything's working like I that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► I turn it off Friday night everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► working Saturday morning I wake up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► turn it on immediately Rae Springs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► respring respring now what do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► Wow you don't turn on that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► turn on the phone until you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► a fix like or do you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► decision is because like information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► came out like we don't know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► don't know now but presumably by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► next day you wake up and you read here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► what the deal is is there fixes they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► not effects how bad is the bug what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► the possible workarounds was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► know like waiting for more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► to come out of century because more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► information didn't come out in about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► you learn the shape of this bug you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► learn what what it actually caused you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► learn multiple workarounds including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► date thing and by then people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► learning about the problems about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► a date bug like just I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► like patience right and you know know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► your phone's not gonna fix itself when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► it's turned off but it's also not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► so like presumably Apple will fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► Apple is not going to allow that if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► a important bug it's not like Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► gonna be silent for six months about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► this bug and and no one could turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► their phones like you're not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► stuck with the turned off phone forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► there will be a fix and the more series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► is the the the sooner the fix will be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► I was like it's like that is the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► perhaps the most annoying option but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► it's also the most conservative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► probably the safest and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► would rank it above changing the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► because that is that's that's more a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► risky option it's a way like can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► take can I do something they'll expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► me to a small amount of risk but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► not have to let me continue using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► phone essentially yeah that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► the math I did and to me being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► still use my phone was was worth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► risk and I'm not saying that I'm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► I'm just saying I stand by the decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► I made at the time but anyway as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► turns out it was not as dire as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► thought and to be honest John's approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► in retrospect was the best answer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► would have been to turn off your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► just wait it out see what happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► and as I think I said a moment ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► turns out that I guess something with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► local notifications was causing an error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► within springboard and springboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► you know the the home screen among other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► things and so springboard would crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► every two or three minutes and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► only if you had an app that used a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► notification and if you're not a iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► developer that may not mean a lot to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► and so a local notification to a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► looks identical in almost every scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► pretty actually every scenario I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► think of to a push notification but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► difference is rather than coming from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► it's coming from your phone itself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► your phone is either saying maybe in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► background process oh I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► send a you know have a notification show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► up or perhaps in the case of like dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► hey this person has asked for a reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► about this thing they want to do at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► know nine o'clock in the evening they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► the person has asked to be reminded that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► ATP is being recorded and so they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► schedule our reminder locally on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► device for nine o'clock on Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► and those were the things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► causing the problem and by the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► available and before we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► what that fix was do we have any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► commentary about the bug itself yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► Marcos commentary the best solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► obviously is always luck which is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► had because I was way behind in Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► so like I said I'm reading about the bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► like hours and hours like I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► hours and hours old tweets so the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► rest of the world knows how it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► already but I don't know I'm reading you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► know five hours ago tweets right in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► look at this bug and I'm rolling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► and and so I'm learning about it in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► time on my phone all the while I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► ant wait see how this turns out is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► gonna turn out that my phone is affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► by it I'm like well it's not rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► to springboard constantly right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► yeah right so basically I lucked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► applications that do local notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► so I got to read the story of my present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► you know backwards in time and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► fun and so yeah if you can rely on luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► I highly recommend it my solution was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► be a member of multiple slack groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► where Casey was also a member because on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► the night of December 1st when this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► midnight that it was going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► Casey posted in every slack that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► in about this horrible thing I was read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► his slack things backwards in time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► him like oh wow Casey really went all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► out warning the world about this again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► at the time like I didn't have a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► lot of facts but what I did know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► that people in the future and by that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► mean in like Australia New Zealand were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► we're having serious problems with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► especially in the slacks you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► didn't really saw it sound the alarm too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► heavily on Twitter but for for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► friends and slack I want you guys to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► able to react and do something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► this be that turn off your phone be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► set your clocks whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► because the initial reports of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► because it was a game of telephone where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► it was oh my god your phone is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► Saturday morning and so yes I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► spamming everyone but I stand by that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► well because I would much rather roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► reversed I would much rather see Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► different slacks and say oh god set your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► and at least be or make a decision you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► know what I want to do rather than have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► Marco or John be like I'm sure it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► well and I appreciate because that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► I heard about it because like so I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► know I had like a night like I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► figured I was doing that I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► know spending time with family so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► wasn't browsing the internet I wasn't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Twitter that night and as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► previously I don't have Twitter on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► phone anymore so I don't browse to it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► my phone so I was getting ready I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► was brushing my teeth and reading my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► phone because I'm a hopeless technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► addicts and I read my phone while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► yep you got to hold the toothbrush like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► recognize you anyway house you can spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► two minutes thinking no so anyway so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► brush my teeth and I started seeing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► these messages from you and I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► thinking and and by that time I we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► had known by that point this was this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► like four minutes before midnight but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► knew at that point that it had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► with recurring local notifications only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► so as I'm sitting there brushing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► teeth I'm like oh my god wait okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► know it's a quick inventory of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► household devices what's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► problem like all right all my stuff's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► TIFF oh no her stuff is not on the beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► I'm thinking like what's the fastest way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► I can solve this problem the next four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► minutes well let's have strongly agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► her phone in bed like you never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► Instagram and like go to sleep and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► rush I run into a bit out of her hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► I read the bedroom with the toothbrush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► reminder app sometime in the next four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► minutes like what why like just just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► it like why because she could tell I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► super freaked out about it she had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► idea what the hell I was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► because I realized that like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► thinking like thinking through the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► she would have on her phone that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► send recurring local notifications she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► had some kind of like drink more water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► reminding application so I knew that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► a thing and and I like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► finished with my teeth Reena ran back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► and I had like two minutes left I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► like I was like are there any other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► that you have on your phone that send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► you notifications that are not from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► big company because the thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► every other app from a big company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► going to send remote push notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► there oh they're only gonna ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► your road the only apps that really ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► use little notifications at all our apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► that really need to for some reason like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► you know reminding apps or alarm apps or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► to do apps or overcast for that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► implementation detail and so and I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► notifications like that that cuts out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► lot of of potential app types like very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► notifications so that's why they say wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► this was a huge problem it was a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► problem only for people who use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► relatively small subset of app types so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► this was actually not nearly as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► it could have been I mean this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► problem with anybody who had any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► any kind of notifications that would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► been a much bigger problem than it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► and it was pretty big but it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► been way worse so anyway so she got off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► okay after we're installing the reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► the water reminder app because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► thinking like can I install a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► informant nope did not the profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4854">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► install it's not gonna work like yes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► anyway how do Apple solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► KC so as it turns out and we we've kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► of put these pieces not the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► just in general the communities put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► these pieces together after the fact as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► it turns out iOS eleven point two is due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► to come out this week and and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► heard conflicting reports what day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► the week it was supposed to come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► it doesn't really matter to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► but it probably wasn't Friday night at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► midnight yeah exactly so you know eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► point two was in the hopper so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► and it was imminently going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► released and so one would assume that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► had been heavily Qaid it was pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► ready to go and they were just waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► to make sure that their servers were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► know up to snuff that that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► the emergency response team was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► and ready to act you know when they hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► the Go button or whatever that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► that Apple does when they release new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► you know iOS point release and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► think about it Apple had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► choices right thank you I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► imagining like Johnny I've in a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► white room with a big white button on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► perfectly formed wooden Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► go it wouldn't even be labeled though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► know he hates buttons it would just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► spot on the table yeah exactly that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► would have to just apply some pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► to and it would be a forced click button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► he just gives it a meaningful look he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► doesn't but anyway the point is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► that you know Apple all kidding aside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► basically two choices they could either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► put together a fix just for this issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► and try to like emergency cue a test it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► and try to put together an emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► patch and start shipping this patch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► it was it was very quickly obvious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► people on the beta we're not having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► problem like Marco had said and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► could alternatively just say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► 11.2 wasn't supposed to go out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► Marco said at midnight Eastern on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► Friday evening and gosh knows that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► you've ever done anything with software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► you never want to deploy on a Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► night because that means you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► on a Friday at all because that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► your weekend is all but assured Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► screwed but at this point they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► screwed anyway so we why not and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► they ended up doing was releasing 11.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► early which I think was the smart choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► I mean it's easy for me to armchair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► quarterback but hey that's what we do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► to me I think that was the best choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► they could have made but it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► had its own set of penalties in in no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► small part because say you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► release notes for example if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► mistaken mentioned Apple what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► Apple pay cash is that what it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► basically peer-to-peer Apple pay Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► venmo Apple venmo slash Apple Square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► cash well anyways so that was mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► in the release notes and then all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► including me went to go find it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► wasn't there and we were like well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► what's going on here and as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► there was a server side switch they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► needed to flip which I think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► regardless but you know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► clear that this was not their intention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► but given the the hand they had in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► decision they could have made I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► Marco do you would you say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► would do the same thing in their shoes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► information to know what their options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► really were here but probably I mean see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► it like I was using the 11.2 beta for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► while and it was seemed fine to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► that's you know that's just one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► if it was truly just like a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► days from release then yeah that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► the problem is is embarrassing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► fact that they keep having problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► iPhones with related to date and time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► concerning for things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► alarms not going off in certain days for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► people and weird daylight savings bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► like it like I am definitely concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► specifically has about local local date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► and time issues I thought we were done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► apparently we're not and that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► could use some investigation on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► part maybe maybe some auditing and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► you know really making sure that code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► solid because we shouldn't be having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► you know Apple's better than that but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► for the actual fix they did to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► horribly embarrassing bug yeah it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► fine you know and I should also mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► there was something going on with Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► as well and I never really got a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► read on what it was but like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► heard that month thirteen is that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► thirteen tell me again why I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► update the High Sierra this one thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► is it is it in bounds or is it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► bounds I forget you'll never know no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► it wasn't even the month thirteen thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► there's something to do with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► spotlight I think or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► I forget exactly what it was but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► was a a not widespread but medium spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► I don't even know if that's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► phrase but a medium spread bug that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► affecting I believe High Sierras well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► and I can't remember what the hell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► was but it was something to do with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► your menu bar or spotlight or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► like that I haven't seen that one I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► I'm afraid to look at my console for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► month thirteen messages but still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► on isn't it did ten point whatever point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► to fix it I would I looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► release notes for briefly and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► the very first item would be month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► thirteen is now no longer balanced we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► added a new month thirteen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► calendar to fix this bug so far has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► find like the the code in corefoundation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► printing printing this message and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► I know and then the grand scheme of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► things we talked about with the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► springboard crashing repeatedly and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► know the whatever the the problem was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► last week that I've already forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► like 1:13 being out of bounds but to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► clear what we're talking about is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► message that appears in the console on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► your Mac that repeatedly tells you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► month 13 is out of bounds like multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► times per second like slowing down your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► Mac yeah it depends on where it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► from what applications you have running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► but but it sounds like you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► your Mac still works you just got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► bunch of noise in the console not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► deal but something about the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► you know the hygienic programmer in me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► finds that one all the more bothersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► because it hasn't been fixed and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► emitting 10 or 20 of this identical log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► message per second every second every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► day that you're using it and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► kind of like gnaws at the back of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► mind like it is it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► sit well with me regardless of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► actual implications like no they use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► incrementing a counter and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► actually storing duplicates in Bob a Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► like whatever the I don't care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► technical things like it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► and maybe also as a server-side para [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► programmer noise and logs is bad noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► and logs rent you from seeing signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► stop spewing stuff to logs like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► thing that makes you go around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► company with the big virtual stick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► about people I stopped stop filling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► logs with crap if you're debugging fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► messages like keep the logs clean so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► really hope that my 13 well no longer be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► out of bounds yeah that's that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► big thing like that when they Channing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► introduces new login framework I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► it was what last year or the year before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► when they introduced the new logging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► framework like they tad like oh it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► lightweight you can just leave you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► incredibly verbose logging enable at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► time and the system will handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► because like oh it's so efficient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► like if no one's looking if no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► looking at the log it doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► written anywhere or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► like there's all sorts of details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► make it super efficient but like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► I'm with you like like first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► looking at console or even the Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► developer log is nearly useless since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► this change because the the apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► message with an apple when when they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► this was now that we've made logging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► really cheap we can just dump diarrhea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► in the logs constantly from everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► really hard to actually look at the logs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► when you're having a problem and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► anything on a tethered device with Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► and even if you do the whole like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► know OS whatever iOS disabled mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► disabled whatever that macro is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► supposed to set doesn't actually work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► doesn't actually do want and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► like the every part of iOS and Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► now just dumps so much crap to the log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► that it has made the log useless and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► only for developers but also just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► users like sometimes some form answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► will be like hey go look at console dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► app for the for something like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► III really strongly disagree with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► Apple you know way of doing this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► we're logging tons of unnecessary crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► all the time is considered ok because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► they made logs really cheap yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► for the developer it's like I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► actually more reasonable to say oh just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► whitelist your application like use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► filtering features to just see logs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► your applications but for for users like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► console has historically been granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► one of the last resorts but like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► you're really desperate to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► deal is you will probably find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► launching console and saying maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► there's a messaging console that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► let me know what the problem is and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► that case you can't run any filters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► because you don't know what you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► filter you don't know what application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► or what part of the system you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► know what to filter for you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► blacklist if you had eliminated sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► of things but like sort of an overview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► of like hey is anything weird going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► in my system that's why in server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► application is that the general best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► practices did not have noisy laws to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► have at least one log that it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► when everything's okay then the log is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► relatively quiet or there's only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► kind of log message there we're like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► some way where you could say look if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► anything other than this normal state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► appears here we have a problem and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► normal state may be total quiet so which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► would mean that every single line to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► this log means there's a problem or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► normal state could mean log messages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► this type are fine but if you see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► other kind of log message that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► indicative of a problem that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► need if you just have a big dumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► ground no matter how good your filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► facilities are no matter how good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► especially in the case of an emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► hat you have no place to look anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► where a human being can look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► inside it's not like normal to you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► like I don't know it's just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► butts just a bunch of crap it's is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► more crap or less crap than we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► before and then finally like month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► thirteen of that bounce it represents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► some kind of error is that a programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► error is it a data error whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► source of the error is is an assertion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► that's failing and we all agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► there is no month thirteen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► so something somewhere is wrong cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► someone should fix it so we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► to see that message twenty times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► second should this be a long message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► shouldn't this be an assertion shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► it crash like that's you know by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► thirteen two on my laptop I just booted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► it up this looked it I'm still getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► month 13 is out of bounds errors in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► console so 10 13 2 does not fix this bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► it also doesn't fix my font smoothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► bug because the unchecking the use font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► smoothing when available box still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► what three months after the release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► this OS to major point releases in if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► you if you have that box off everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► so thanks Apple I why am I being pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► so hard to use this OS why is this being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► pushed forcibly through my App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► like well it promote it when it's ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► it's not ready sorry that month 13 thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► I don't think crashing is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► perfect is this of a date if it's a data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► driven error the data is bad the code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► not the code is just telling you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► video is bad and in the verbose way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► the tradition that you just said of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► oh if you find something wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► you're not going to throw an exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► just log it so you'll know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► but if it happens 20 times a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► that's not great so I'm assuming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► some sort of data bug where some piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► of data somewhere either from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► network or on the system has a bad date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► in it or some bad date math added one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► a 12 and got a 13 not a reason for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► coding question to throw an exception in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► that case because it could be inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► some important subsystem that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► want to like take down the whole system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► just because it got some bad data or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► whatever I'm just saying find where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► bug is and fix it and obviously it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► less urgent than everything else we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► like I said hygiene wise for me if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► feels mentally urgent to me that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► stop being on in the console so not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► streak between the root bug in this bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► it's just not not good but not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► I'm gonna say not you know so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► good lots of bugs but not actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► bad either because in the grand scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► of things Apple like either through luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► partially through things working the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► ways they're supposed to Apple got fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► out in a timely manner the fix is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► or less work plus or minus some minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► fixes to the fixes the user base in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► general you know could have been it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► could have been much worse but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► I mean the reasons marco said local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► notifications only the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► fixes came out pretty quickly I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► sure if any of these things even made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► out of the little tech nerd circle onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► like the evening news or whatever into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► the wider world like was their front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► everybody's iPhones bricking like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► unfortunate and there was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► some bad luck involved but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► also some good luck and I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► more or less functioned the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► supposed to oh you've got an emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► and a bug all hands on deck let's fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► the problem and they fixed it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► know you can get you can get pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► about the fact that there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► bugs and we've talked about that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► length but I'm I'm mostly satisfied that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► Apple handled the situation the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► organization to handle the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► yeah yeah I mean they they're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► as angry as I am about how crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► they're treating hi Sierra right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► how it should not be it should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► been released period like this at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► OS is still a beta and should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► been released and if they insisted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► promoting it as hard as they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► should not be automatically pardoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► people to install it as much as they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► but all that being said they are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► software bugs happen they are fixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► them you know bugs happen on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► platforms and alack this isn't just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► Mac thing like iOS has problems Mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► problems they're doing their job yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► but high sierra is not ready I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► don't know why you say that it's I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► it on every one of my machines and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► been fine it's just very upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► fonts moving apparently well and root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► and month 13 like this it's not that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► has one problem I Sierra has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► like I don't know I mean it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► if you encounter the problems like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► it's the example you said I was had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► these trepidations about installing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► right and then eventually I just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► install it on my wife's computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► it's been fine I mean I'm sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► console her consoles filling right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► with Mon 13 being out of bounds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► beyond that it's more or less works I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► it's hard for me to gauge like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► the stability of this thing across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► entire user base some people have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► none of us have the Windows Server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► crashing bug which would certainly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5758">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► something that we make us all screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► that we shouldn't have upgraded right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► because if your computer crashes every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► 30 to 60 minutes like morning crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► but I don't know I'd like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► Apple probably knows but the stability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► is like certainly it feels shaky er then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► we wish the Mac operating system ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► would feel but early early releases of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► all major updates are like and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► as we said in last show it doesn't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► up to the billing as a stability release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► like as it was pitched but it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► me to gauge exactly how dire it is and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► still remember the bad old days of 10 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► 0 and even 10 6 zero and the zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► releases back in the old days we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► we're just so much worse like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► may we'll make you computer unusable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► mark goes right in that they didn't push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► though so they didn't automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► download those and throw things in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► face to tell you to upgrade like no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► even knew leopard was out until most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► us had suffered through 10 5 0 10 5 one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► and 10 5 2 so it's a different world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► yeah tell us about your iPhone John we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► have time but I guess we do my iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► full what is that so wait what size did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► I didn't here's the thing when here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► go we've all seen the Google ads where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► advertising campaign is they show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► that little dialogue that says like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► never see this again and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► iOS style it comes up and says like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► whatever says your iPhone is full or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► you're out of storage and remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► exact wording but that's that's been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► specifically for Google Android devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► I think for a while now and I had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► seen that and so when it appeared my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► first question it was how big is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► phone because I'd forgotten I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► iPhone 7 I bought it a long time ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► don't remember what size I got I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► 1:28 which I normally don't do like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► normally get the smaller size I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► oh I don't have that much stuff on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► and it's not a big deal I used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► that you know back back in the old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► when the cameras on phones and iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► Touches really sucked the biggest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► on your phone or iPod Touch which I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► saying because that's what I had at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► where was your music and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► collection on there I'll just put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► three star plus playlist on there which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► is like the songs that I like from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► music collection essentially I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► put them in there and that's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► big and that's the biggest thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► gonna be on my phone and my music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► collection doesn't grow that much so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► can go I need to do is get a phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► iPod Touch did fits my music collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► but now the cameras on phones and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► and we all take lots of pictures with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► and the pictures are big and I filled my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► collection which doesn't get that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► very often but with photos I filled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► with photos so you know you go to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► the dialog box offices go to manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► storage you look at what's taken up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► this room and you're like guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► photos and then second place music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► then third place everything else right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► so now I'm in this situation and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► like I still has that game hey it's Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► yeah but if your phone fills up like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► could fix that right it's pretty easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► fix and to its credit iOS has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► pretty nice storage management screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► where it will suggest a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► things you can do to get space back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► it will tell you exactly how much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► you'll get back in priority order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► biggest things first you can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► thing where you let the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► offload apps that you don't use and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► tells you what the consequences of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► are and it tells you how much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► attachments on messages and it tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► how much space you'll save you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► delete old messages all over than a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► and it tells you how much space that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► will save but all sorts of stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► that I was really impressed with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► see that screen which I'd never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► before my problem was I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► do any of those things what I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► happen was iCloud forward library to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► I am now going to eject photos that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► haven't looked at in a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► save only the tiniest of thumbnails for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► them and I'm gonna do that across your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► entire photo library shrinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► dramatically and I should have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► 17 hours ago when I saw you were running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► out of room on your phone but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► instead I waited if you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► completely fill up and stopped you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► the middle filling a video of your cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► literally in the middle of filming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► dialogue that says your phone is full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► like well make it unfold like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► panel pops in my storage on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► get rid of photos that I haven't looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► out like I have thousands of photos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► I have never looked at on my phone get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► them off my phone that's the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► of optimized storage right and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► people have had the same frustration on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► their Mac they're like they set their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► Mac top to my storage and the max disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► fills up and they're like come on photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► optimized like the whole point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► they're stored in the cloud I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► the full res ones here download them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► demand get the full res ones off of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► system so I didn't know what to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► I'm like I guess I'll try to leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► some big apps I guess I'll find elite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► GarageBand that I never used cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► like six hundred Meg's or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► know like I deleted some stuff thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► maybe it's just a lag maybe you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► the the photos thing will just takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► little while to catch up and it'll flush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► stuff out but sure enough like a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► hours later phone's full again I deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► some more stuff next day phone photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► yeah and like every time I try to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► picture it would happen literally when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► I'm taking pictures in videos just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► on the ads because that's when like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► threshold so I was like oh you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► have no choice I have to basically turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► off iCloud photo library to convince it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► to delete these photos off my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► because it's just not doing it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► turned off iCloud photo library it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► do you want to keep these photos in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► Mac if you want to trash them I said go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► ahead and trash them because they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► safe in the cloud they're all safe on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► Mac like you know there are many million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► different places I don't need them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► on my phone I never look at them on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► phone anyway and by the way remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► the photo is on my photo library is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► the family photo library it's just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► photos the family photo the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► belongs to my wife so I'm only talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► about a tiny subset of the vast amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► of photos I have and I import all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► photos into the family photo library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► like Mac painfully manually there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► good way to do this so I wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► worried about the data right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► it's not it's not the real photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► they're all NATO thing so I told it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► delete my photo library and and I click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► delete and it went through and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► like it's removing space and I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► space come back I got many many gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► free I'm like I gotta solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► and then I found myself in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► managed storage screen I guess I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► just trying to look up at the progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► or whatever and I noticed in the managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► storage screen it said here's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► things you can do to save space and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► of the top items was you should enable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► cut photo library cuz that'll save you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► fifty days I was like what icon photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► library saved me 50 gigs is it thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► well I see on your phone you've got gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► and gigs of photos but if you enable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► cut photo library I can upload all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► to the cloud and then dump the full res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► versions leaving only the thumbnail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► saving you 50 gigs like that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► way I could reason about that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► that's how it was telling me you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► think was save space and I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► look let me tell you I had it enabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► and that's when my phone filled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► didn't seem like it's a new space but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► anyway because because it offered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► to me I said alright I'll take that bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► phone you're beating me up about setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► my clock back these photos are all safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► and sound somewhere else like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► not the real family photo library like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► this is just me versus the phone to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► like you know if you're gonna tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► that I'm gonna say 50 geeks but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► and so I enabled it and I think what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► did was I enable it so quickly after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► had disabled that it hadn't deleted all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► the photos on my phone it just deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► many many gigs of them and and I rien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► abled it and it went through this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► that said you know I'm uploading photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► uploading like duplicates of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► photos Shirley knows that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► already uploaded all these like and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► did it figured it out it said it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► I gotta upload like 9,000 photos and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► was like up I'm all done because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► know all those tourists were already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► uploaded so it didn't actually reload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► them no duplicates and then it just sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► there in a steady state so I'm like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► this this technique worked disabled I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► got a photo library tell it to delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► wait a short time for it delete several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► gigs then re-enable it let it figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► that everything that's on the phone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► already been uploaded and let it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► say but nothing for me to do I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► everything's fine on this phone so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► is my update on my my full phone I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► sure if I deal with it and dealt with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► in the right way I'm not sure what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► right way really would be and and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► to go through the things that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► attachments just because I'm stubborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► and I'm wearing that stupid iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► message sync thing to happen so that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► my all my messages would be in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► and I could delete them locally like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► didn't want you know people semi cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► videos I don't want to save them to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► video library I don't want them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► gone right I didn't want to lead a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► of applications especially ones that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► might not be able to redownload from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► store all those fewer of them these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► because a 64-bit thing that kills a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► of my cool 32-bit apps all right be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► yeah I didn't want to delete any big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► games and stuff that I play cuz that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► not play them that often but I do want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► to play them I like the fact that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6298">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► there and I can just launch it and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► with it I do mind delete any of my music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► because I already had a minimal set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► my music on there and I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► stream music like it was just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► option that I could have done but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► the fact that music is on there what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► did want to happen was for the photos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► flush out so anyway I took the phone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► on its BET and it sure didn't save me 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► gigs but my phone is no longer full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► again and I guess what this means is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► next time I get a phone I'll be sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► get the 256 or whatever the biggest size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► they offer is because now apparently one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► of those people who fills this phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► will say a useful tip that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► somebody told me somewhere or I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► somewhere I said I got my laptop last is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► you know I Wes you're screwed you're up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► to the you know the iCloud gods to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► what they need to do with optimizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► storage which they seem to not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► reliably but on the Mac I strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► recommend this this tactic where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► know if you're gonna have like your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► Mac download all the files and download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► originals fine do it normally if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► gonna use iCloud photo library and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► it optimize storage on a Mac if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► an idea of how much disk space you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► that to use at most create a sparse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► bundle disk image and locate your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► library on that and you can just have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► automatically on item in your logon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► items and so I have a disk image called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► photos that I set as a maximum size of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► think it was like 20 gigs that Ike that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► I chose or something like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► what I'm doing on my on my on my new old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► laptop and it is wonderful because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► filled that up maybe 2/3 of the way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► then just stopped and so now I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► control exactly how much disk space it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► and it will never exceed the limit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► this sparse bundle it's glorious I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► know why this isn't a setting they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► should just have a setting you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► can you imagine some other way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► implement that feature that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► involve this image imagine that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► just yeah maybe an action a storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► limit setting that would be amazing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► they don't have that so in the absence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► of them being willing to add such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► incredible useful obvious setting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► everyone needs on a laptop because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► SSDs are expensive and small make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► sparse to a sparse bundle disk image in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► Disk Utility and you can locate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► photo library on that add it as a log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► and item and it automatically mounts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► everything just works except you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► defined limit to how big your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► library can be and it will stay under it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► it is wonderful I was gonna make fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► the inefficiency of solution because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► you go like another layer of pseudo file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► system that all your i/o is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► through which you know can't can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► efficient but I do something even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► for Time Machine Network Time Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► backups and I probably should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► is I think what both of you use as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► quotas on Synology though you set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► quotas per user it works great yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► think actually do have the quota set but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► I think I'm slightly over provisioned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► typical fashion so usually I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► start to fill up I use the TM util thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► to delete historic backups because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► least at least in the case of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► between there is a physical way for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► to do what the system should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► anyway we're just cleaning up old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► backups but sometimes it gets cranky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► when you get close to too much space so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► I have on my network time machine volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► space-filling placeholder like like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► gigs super full and a time machine means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► like too much need scratch space to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► it out of it's fine guess what I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► the space filler chuck in the trash and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► you know it delete it resolved a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► machine thing and put back the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► filler which is you know it's disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► it reminds me of that awesome story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► hope it's not a park row because all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► favorite internet stories of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► experience game developer who has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► mandate to fit all some I figure I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► gonna messing up is easy else but to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► all the assets for this game in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► certain amount of memory and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► getting to be crunch time and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► 200k is the old days of PC gaming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► 200k over their RAM limit and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► figure out how to ring any more RAM out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► and at the beginning of project he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► made a 2 mega by Ram buffer as a static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► variable and then some C file they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► comments that line out and says done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► ship it anyway my thing is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► much worse than that and not clever at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► all but it is it is a thing that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► and it has actually come in handy I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► to make so much fun of you John but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► is actually very very clever it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► it's stupid I use quotas but I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► saying it's I mean is that that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► worse than my crazy sparse bundle heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► yeah well you know the sparse bundle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► like this first of all thing just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► me so angry about how the automat these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► automated systems like for version 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► fine but this is obviously a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► people want they want more control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► how much space your thing is taking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► if the optimize saying really worked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► way it was supposed to where you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► have to worry about will take care of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► no one would complain like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► great goal but many years later on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► their systems they're sort of optimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► storage thing does not work the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► people expect like theirs it lets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► fill up it doesn't catch it before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► fills up in scenarios where you're it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► not like I'm not like I'm flooding I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► flooding the phone with lots of data but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► like it's not unforeseen Bowl by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► system that we're getting close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► disk storage limit and when it does hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► the limit it seems like no part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► system scrambles to get your space back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► there like yeah you've hit your limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► now we're not gonna do anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► like maybe maybe that Dean will wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► and consider thinning some but maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► won't like we're not in a hurry is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► some urgency about this perhaps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► should go to the Settings app on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► manage storage screen so you can clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► that Red Badge will make it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► look at that by the way it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► look at that managed storage screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► clear that badge every time it tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► that message I know that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► would tell me that message a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► there's no way to get rid of it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► you go into that screen and let it grind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► away and say here's all the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► can do to save space like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► you can do to save space get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► thanks for sponsors this week fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► aftershocks and Linode and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► mean to begin cuz it was accidental oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6653">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► Johnny research Marco and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► let him cuz it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► notes at a CAS pyl ISS so that's Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► less ma RC o AR m auntie Marco Arment SI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► how's the weather up there Marco cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► rainy how's the forecast though oh there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6713">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► it's overcast nicely done nicely done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► we'll be here all week kids anyway oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► wow so you've released you've released a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► madcap congratulations yeah my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► Mac up don't forget quitter that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► day when I was like command spacing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► I think I mistyped and quitter came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► yeah so I released for cast it's a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► app it's for producing your own podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► it is an mp3 encoder and chapter tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► and lets you input some of the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► metadata right in the app and this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► mention this one on this show a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► of times over the last two years or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► it is a parallelized version of the lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► parallelization is actually done fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► boringly it's an entirely outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► lame the lame is a terrible name that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► kind of like an ableist problem name now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► but this was named a very long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► before we were as aware of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► and I didn't name it but it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► be the best mp3 encoder so I apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► for the terrible name but it is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► the lame mp3 encoder it is the pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► much the only way you can encode an mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► legally today without using software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► that had a pre-existing deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► front Hoffer Institute that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► creator of the mp3 originally back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► like the late 80s and it was them whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► patents expired this past spring when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► their patents expired they stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► licensing their encoder at any price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► believe me I tried so the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► encode mp3 is legally today if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► already have a copy or a license of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► lame mp3 encoder like Apple does with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► the iTunes and logic is to use the lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► open source project so anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► parallelization happens outside of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► I basically split the file into chunks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► send them each to a copy of the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► standard live mp3 lame that comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► the source distribution from homebrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► rejoin those chunks after they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► encoded into one could you can mp3 file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► because as I mentioned earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► show during the question about dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► ad insertion mp3 file format is easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► spliced and easily rejoined and hacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► up like that without causing too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► problems as long as you're a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► careful so that's what it does and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► optimized for the workflow that me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► some of my podcasts or friends have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► which is we create mp3 chapters as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► markers in Logic Pro you can also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► this from Adobe Audition and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► think there's a good way to do it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► audacity unfortunately I know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► trying I'm not yet aware of a way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► it but anything that can export markers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► as metadata in a wav file forecasts will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► try to import that as chapters you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► also create them manually but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► recommend that because the interface for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► doing so is awful because I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► also it's all a tableview with cocoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► bindings and that makes a bunch of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► little behaviors and inconsistencies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► bugs that I need to get rid of by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► dumping cocoa bindings but that's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► of work and I haven't gotten there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► anyway so I released this app and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► released it for free for lots of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► that I don't talk about if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► if you care I've talked a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► about some of the stuff went under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► radar but I don't know what do you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► want to know where should I start here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► so what was the motivation it was simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► just efficiency yeah pretty much it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► you know III wanted first of all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► I was encoding this show before was by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► using the command line version of lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► and I was doing that you know I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► using the built-in mp3 encoder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► logical because the front offer encoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► which is actually a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► quality for low bit rate speech and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► a little bit faster but I wasn't using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► that because I wanted as part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► workflow to automate things like putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► in the right artwork for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► putting in the right podcast title and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► episode number and everything so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► to do that before and I would shell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► to the lame mp3 encoder on the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► line and encoding an episode of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► would take like four or five minutes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► was and you know that's to an impatient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► programmer that's just death like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► have to sit there and wait and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► time like if I wanted to change the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► WestEd then wait another five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► for to re-encode and it was a pain so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► and I've always loved hacking audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► stuff and as you can tell from some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► my career choices always loved it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► loved dealing with audio and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► decided you know what I there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► a way to make this parallel I have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► these cores sitting around doing nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► on my computer while one core works its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► this is incredibly offensive to me okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► let me let me figure out a way to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► this and in addition I realize like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► control like a GUI version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► encoder I can save myself some time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► other ways for instance we host this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► podcast on Squarespace but we host the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► website and the feed on Squarespace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► files are hosted libsyn and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► setup I recommend by the way but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► the Squarespace requires that you paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► in the file size and the duration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► elsewhere it doesn't just fetch that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► requires that you paste it and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7048">TS</a>]
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01:57:33 ◼ ► things to the clipboard I can save a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7053">TS</a>]
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01:57:41 ◼ ► can save some time there I also wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► to get involved with chapter my show our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7064">TS</a>]
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01:57:50 ◼ ► convinced me to do it the Germans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► frustratedly right a lot of the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7071">TS</a>]
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01:57:58 ◼ ► convinced they convinced us all overtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7078">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► they wore us down and convinced us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► that we should probably have chapters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7081">TS</a>]
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01:58:05 ◼ ► was not happy with the state of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7085">TS</a>]
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01:58:33 ◼ ► this one it would still be worth doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7113">TS</a>]
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01:59:39 ◼ ► small that you know if there was a paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7179">TS</a>]
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01:59:44 ◼ ► the total amount of money I would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSeqmco/7184">TS</a>]
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