The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► I'm fired up tonight in the sense that I [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► i love hate my phone and we're gonna [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► have to talk about this later there are [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► some parts i really really really love [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► in some parts that are driving me [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► freakin crazy and we should talk about [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► that later that that's what the that's [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► what we in the business like to call a [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► teaser mmm if this stays in the show i [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► guarantee someone will write in and say [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► so that's actually not a teaser that's [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► actually a sting preview the blast [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► reference god it's a miracle that anyone [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► puts any content on the internet by [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► choice ever ever well if we ever want to [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► get to that i do want to talk about the [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► feedback to my laptop article oh I have [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► feedback I would like to file actually [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► unfortunately siracusa covered it pretty [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► well today no I didn't talk about and I [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► purposely didn't try and not to talk [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► about your article we have still plenty [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► of things to talk about on your article [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► with you specifically alright good [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► yeah and I have plenty of complaints to [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► levy so I would like my chance let's [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► start with some follow-up about the [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► multitasking Jax gesture on the iPhone [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► 10 it was funny because as a podcast [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► listener I have listened to every Apple [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► related tech podcast that I listened to [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yet all of the feedback about the one [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► true way to do the multitasking gesture [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► the one true way that is flawless and [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► will never ever fail it just so happens [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► that there are about 75 one true waste [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► multitasking gesture on the iPhone 10 [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► and I had thought by the time we had [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► covered it [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► perhaps the internet will have gotten [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► this out of their system oh no my [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► friends the internet is not done so one [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► of you has comically put in the show [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► notes and I'm guessing this is John the [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► tyranny the tyranny tyranny tyranny the [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► the the angst of the pause tyrany the [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► digit or an e the tyranny of the pause [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► tell us about this yeah this was the [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► implied context of all of my calm [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► the multitasking gesture last year we [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► talked about how I had difficulty doing [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► it from the home screen but how was as [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► far as I can tell the same gesture is [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► elsewhere and why I had difficulty doing [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► it the home screen and at one point I [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► rattled off a bunch of gestures that I [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► had tried things that people had [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► suggested and things that work elsewhere [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► the implied but not stated part of that [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► conversation was that all the things I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► was describing I was doing instead of [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► the one where you you drag up and then [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► pause for a little bit and then you know [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► like like basically what I think of as [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► the sort of standard one I think it's [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► the one they demoed in the keynote where [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► you know pull up from the bottom but [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► don't take your finger off the screen [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► and then wait a little bit and then the [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► multitasking thing comes and and the [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► reason that was my implied context is [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► because I hate pauses I hate you know [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► tap and hold I hate anything where I [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► have to do something for a set amount of [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► time and there's no way I can speed it [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► up that's why I was interested in the [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► you know j-turn 45-degree angle swipe [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► all sorts of other little things [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► so everybody who wrote in to tell us why [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► are you doing all these strange gestures [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► just pull up from the bottom and then [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► wait a second and it will come up I [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► definitely knew that I don't want to [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► wait the second category of people are [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► saying you actually don't have to wait [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► if you pull up a precise amount from the [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► bottom and immediately remove your [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► finger from the screen it will bring up [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► the multitasking gesture and I guess [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► that gets rid of the weight but I find [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► it more difficult to exactly get that [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► distance right than I do to do one of [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► the j-turn or a 45-degree angle x-ray [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► over so anyway so it wasn't clear and [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► you didn't know you can pull up from the [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► bottom [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► pause her on with your finger on the [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► screen and the multitasking thing will [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► come up and that is probably easier to [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► pull off than any of the gestures that I [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► was describing and what you don't have [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► to do that but you do have to wait and I [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► don't like waiting I had no idea it's [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► like you grew up in the New York area we [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► got a little bit of feedback about the [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► refund request for Apple Care Plus I [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► could have sworn I had put this in the [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► show notes but I was wrong for that for [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► the past episode so will be in the show [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► notes for this episode and John him was [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► first person I saw to write in with a [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► link to K base article hello Stephen [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► Hackett we're in its entitled how to [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► request a refund for an Apple care plan [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► blah blah blah there are a few important [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► things to keep in mind when you cancel [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► in return now care coverage plan if your [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► if you can't see your plan within 30 [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► days your purchase date you'll get a [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► full refund minus the value of any [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► service already performed if you cancel [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► your Apple care plan more than 30 days [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► after purchase we'll get a refund based [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► on the percentage of unexpired Apple [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► care coverage minus the value of any [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► service already provided and so it's the [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► thing which I didn't know and we even [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► heard a couple people say that they told [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► geniuses or perhaps on geniuses and [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► perhaps it was salespeople one way or [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► they're not one way or another told [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► Apple retail employees that this was the [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► thing and they didn't even know it was [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► the thing as it turns out so yeah it's a [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► thing we'll put a link in the show notes [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► alright who is it that put this weird [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► Kickstarter that I'd never heard about [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► before in the show notes it was me it's [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► always me last week about the advantages [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► of face idea for touch ID especially if [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► you're of things wrong with the tips of [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► your fingers or they're dirty you're [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► scratched up stuff like that and also if [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► you're wearing gloves and I mentioned [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► that they had gloves that will let you [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► use your touch screen but those gloves [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► don't let you activate touch ID well [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► someone sent me it's linked to a [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► Kickstarter for gloves that let you [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► touch your screen you know with with [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► gloves on like they work with a [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► touchscreen but also they provide not [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► your finger prints through the gloves [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► like I was suggesting last show like [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► there are no gloves it's magically [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► surface your finger prints but instead [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► give you a bunch of stickers with [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► ostensibly unique fingerprints on every [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► single sticker they work with touch ID [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► so what you do is you'd put on these [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► gloves or put on these little stickers [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► on your gloves right and each one is [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► unique like every single person who gets [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► one I guess yeah unique fingerprint [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► thing train it on your gloved [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► fingerprint thingy and then you can [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► unlock your phone and use it with that [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► glove of course what that means is that [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► if someone's unlock your phone they just [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► need to steer your glove instead of [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► cutting off your finger [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► lifting your prints off a glass of water [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► or whatever mission impossible type [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► thing they're gonna do but anyway it's a [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► Kickstarter all the normal caveat set by [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► Kickstarter but [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► you know this someone's always got an [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► interesting idea and here's another one [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► unique fingerprint stickers I had no [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► idea this was the thing well it's a [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► Kickstarter so is it a thing a few [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► shades there well played uh yeah yeah [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► alright so apparently we have some [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► things to talk about with regard to [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► iCloud restores during iPhone 10 setup I [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► spoke too soon last week we all spoke [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► well maybe you didn't but I did about [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► like oh I cloud restored during setup [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► it's much faster now everything works [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► great that was all true up until the [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► point where my wife's phone wanted to [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► update to whatever I think it's like the [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the iOS update that gets rid of the [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► weird funny character thing you tried to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► have capital I whatever whatever update [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► that was and she normally updates her [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► phone and eventually tried to do the [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► update and it said something to the [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► effect of oh yeah no this this OS update [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► will run as soon as your iCloud restore [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► finishes and it said that for about two [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► weeks now and that's bad Oh lovely and [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► whatever questions to me it was like can [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► I just cancel this iCloud restore and [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► it's like oh no like it's another one of [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► those iCloud things where reboot your [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► phone as far as I'm aware the iCloud [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► restore finished the day we set up your [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► phone like all the apps are there what [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► what remains to be done I don't know [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► it's not like I have some view into the [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► system that tells me what the iCloud [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► restore process is doing so I find this [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► mildly upsetting and I don't as yet have [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► a solution I assume what I'm just gonna [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► do is Google the error message because [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► that's the level of debugging we're at [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► in the iOS world these days especially [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► as it relates to iCloud things so you [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► can find how many other people have this [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► problem but in the end yeah it's like [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► reboot the phone step zero and see if [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► that magically changes something we got [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► some bad news from Apple and I'm quoting [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► now we can't wait for people to [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► experience home pod apples break through [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► wireless speaker for the home but we [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► need a little more time before it's [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► ready for our customers we'll start [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► shipping in the US UK and Australia in [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► early 2018 this was not given directly [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► to ATP but it was given to a couple of [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► news sites or bloggers or what-have-you [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► the home pot is indeed delayed so I [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► guess next week or perhaps later this [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► week we'll hear the same for the iMac [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► Pro because what we're both promised [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► this year is that right yeah but my pro [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► is gonna make it is it because like five [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► people will buy them and it doesn't [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► really matter and it will probably make [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► it I mean technically the 2013 Mac Pro [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► was available in December 2013 but if [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you actually wanted to try to order one [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► you weren't gonna get until February [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► so the iMac Pro might follow a similar [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► path I I don't really know if anything [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► in particular is holding up yeah my pro [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► they have their reasons but I'm sure [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► they have nothing to do with whatever's [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► holding back the home pod the home pod [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► seems like it's just very like it seemed [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► like it was in such an early state when [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► they announced it last June that it's [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► slipping a few months now is not that [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► big of a surprise and it's all new you [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► know all new hardware more importantly [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► probably all new software relying on [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► they're fairly shaky service back-end [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► for Siri so lots of possible things [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► could have gone wrong here or could have [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► missed deadlines here to make that get [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► delayed by a few months so this is not [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► at all a surprise and and I hope you [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► know from what we've seen from the home [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► pod so far which is admittedly very very [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► little it sure doesn't seem like it's [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► that competitive with the other products [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► in that market so maybe they're making a [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► little bit better that that's kind of my [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► hope here is like maybe this will be a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► little bit more competitive against the [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► echo line of products especially and [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► then also against things like Sonos and [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► Google whatever yeah maybe it will be [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► done is more like what I think this is [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► getting they showed the hardware but [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► they had so little of the software done [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► that all they would let people do with [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► it is play music but this is ostensibly [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► something you can talk to and they were [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► demonstrating none of that which makes [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► me think that the hardware is was at [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► that time much farther along than the [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► software and software is much harder to [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► predict when it will be done and I feel [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► like it's not done and that's why it's [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► delayed and as I said on upgrade today [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► with Jason when they announced that the [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► home pod would be yeah [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► really send me I'm a crow for that [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► matter in December it like they announce [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► that it's so in September when they had [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► the iPhone offenders that was it in June [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► I heard June when everyone's went anyway [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► when they announced the announced [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► December then right yeah in June during [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the WC keynote is the only time you've [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► ever heard about the home pod and then [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► they said December yes oh wow [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► anyway right soon as soon as they [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► announce December they pre announced [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► that they would not make the holiday [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► season right so now when they're [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► delaying it until you know early 2018 is [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► not as if suddenly they're missing the [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► holiday season they already pre [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► announced they were missing the holiday [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► season this is not a new change all they [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► have done is crusted over the year [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► boundary and it's probably because you [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► know I think we can make it by the end [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► of year that's our stretch goal team and [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► they didn't make it so it gets pushed [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► out right but but the nice PR side [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► effect is if they had announced home pod [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► and said this isn't coming till 2018 [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► there would be all these groans because [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► you cross the year boundary but if you [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► say December 31st like oh but you know [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► it'll be here in 2017 and that's a [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► better PR story and then as December [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► approaches and it becomes clear that [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► you're not gonna do that and people just [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► want to go home and get their vacations [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► then they can ounce that had too late so [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► I think they were shooting for the end [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► of the year and they just didn't make it [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► and that's fine don't release a product [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► that's not done at no point was this [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► going to be a holiday purchase and it's [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► still not a holiday purchase so it'll be [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► fine so one possibly worrying thing [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► about this is that nobody seems that sad [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► about this is that a concern well what [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► are you gonna be sad about I want that [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► amazing demo that they show they didn't [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► show demo they showed of playing music [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► and it sounded good [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► like they we don't even know what to [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► expect other than it will play your [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► music and some people said it plays [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► music nicely and sounds good right there [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► is no wow factor to this especially with [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the Sonos announcements right if you [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► want a speaker that sounds good that you [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► can talk to Sonos tells you that and [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► this is just like oh it sounds good and [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► you could talk to it and you can talk to [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► it and make a play it make it play Apple [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► music whereas on this will play Apple [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► music but not when you talk to it right [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► now like yeah this this is Apple trying [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► to enter a market that it's currently [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► not in but if they have something [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► special [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► to to show this market here's Apple's [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► entry and this is the special Apple [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► magic they haven't shown that yet so [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► what is there to really get excited [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► about I don't know all I know is I feel [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► less and less confident in Siri as time [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► goes on and there was actually a really [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► really tremendous crossover between [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► welcome to Macintosh and 20,000 Hertz [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► both of which are phenomenal podcasts [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► that you should be listening to and I [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► think it was Mark Graham Hill of welcome [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► to McIntosh had said he was of the [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► opinion that as Siri sounds more in more [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► in more lifelike and less robotic we as [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► human beings and I think I certainly [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► fall into this are less and less and [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► less tolerant of it being anything but [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► perfect because the voice is getting [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► eerily close to to maybe not perfect but [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► really good and so you expect the best [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► out of this and man III don't know if [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► it's me or what I just feel like serious [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► been garbage the last few months but you [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► know what isn't frustrating kids me [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► being vindicated in a boy am i [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► vindicated we have some follow-up about [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► the great dust-up of November 2017 the [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► chili cook-off the chili cook-off if you [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► recall I had put an ask ATP question [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► into the show notes that John had tried [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► to move out of the episode and then [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► obnoxiously I'd pretty much forced all [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► of us to drag it back in and we quickly [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► discovered that John had built himself a [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► beautiful mind style conspiracy theory [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► as to what the actual intention of this [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► questions author was during the [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► recording of that episode I tweeted at [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► the author whose name is Jonathan [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► bowling I said to him was this an honest [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► question or were you making an in-joke [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► about Jon Merlyn etc to which he replied [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► at the time on his question but I was [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► betting something pretty funny might [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► happen in the answers and I believe we [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► brought all this up during the show and [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► John said see it's he's thought [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► something funny would happen he's [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► setting his heart go cut that part out [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► of the episode did he fly yes wait did I [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► yeah that's why I put it back in this [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► one because it was like in the after [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► half [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► after after show this response did come [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► in and so it's honest question but I was [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► betting something pretty funny might [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► happen and my reading of that question [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► was but I was betting something pretty [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► funny might happen and Casey's reading [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► is there but anyway go ahead so we got [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► an email from Jonathan I will not read [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► all of it but I will read some of it [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► episode 248 chili cook-off turned out to [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► be more fun than I could have imagined [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► I was just hoping that you would include [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► my question so I had no idea that it [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► would cause him any siracusa rant TM [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► that would backfire and make the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► question stay in the show Thank You [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► Casey for defending my good intentions [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► I've been a big fan of hypercritical [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► build and analyze in a teepee longtime [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► listener first-time quote close to the [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► medal or quote John suspicions were [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► unfounded [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► I do enjoy reconcilable differences [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► which by the way is a tremendous program [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► which he should listen to but I didn't [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► have anything from reqtest in mind when [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► I asked the question I'd be curious to [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► know which episode or episodes he [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► thought I was referencing Casey I look [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► forward to hearing you point out to John [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► that he was wrong in the next episodes [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► follow-up copy right John Syracuse of [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► 2011 I should note that's in the email I [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► also look forward to his continued good [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► humoured suspicions with a winking emoji [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► John would you like to try to defend [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► yourself at this time well there's not [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► really much to defend here because well [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► first of all I would say that my hope [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► after last week's episode was that you - [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► based on the feedback from everyone else [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► would come to a better understanding [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► what my objection was because if you [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► recall I'm more confused than ever maybe [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► I can help you I'm saying what my hope [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► was if you recall the idea was there was [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► this question in there I moved it down I [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► said I don't like this question in case [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► he asked me and then he asked me on the [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► show why don't you like this question [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► and I explained why I don't like this [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► question and Casey said that my reasons [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► were dumb please tell me why don't you [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► like this question I feel like I tried [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► my best to explain why I don't like the [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► question there's no being right or wrong [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► about why I don't like the question but [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► obviously you two have not come to a [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► deeper understanding why I didn't like [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► the question and I don't know why this [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► example didn't occur to me but I think I [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► have a better example to hopefully bring [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► you to that understanding [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► if someone had written into the show ask [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► ATP say should I buy a white car [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► if Casey said I don't like that question [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► I would understand why he doesn't like [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► that question that's it okay right I [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► wouldn't understand now imagine that [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► person had never heard the show before [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► except like friends said that we talked [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► about car sometime and was legitimately [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► thinking about buying a white car and [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► you know they talk about cars all the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► time and maybe in the F she'll talk [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► about white cars maybe I'll just ask [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► them should I buy my car because you [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► know they're hard to keep clean and so [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► on and so forth right still still if you [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► said that like that question I would say [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► I understand well you don't like that [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► question right and if that person wrote [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► and said I don't know what this thing [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you're talking about the white cars they [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► just for you I heard you guys talk about [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► cars sometimes something gonna get in [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► one and white is hard to clean the stuff [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► set for you you have an opinion even if [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► there were 100 percent honest I would [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► still understand why you don't like that [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► question and it wouldn't say it was [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► Syria now imagine further still that [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► Marco and I said Casey I don't know what [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► you're talking about this person is just [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► asking about white cars I have no idea [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► because this was like seven years in the [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► future and we didn't remember this white [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► car gag oh I assure you I will never be [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► allowed to forget the white car gag but [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► I'm with you to principle I'm with you [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► this is the situation I find myself in [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► because believe me [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► the closer the metal thing was as real [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► as the white car as evidenced by all the [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► people who wrote in to say that person [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► is 100% trolling and John is right I [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► mean they don't know what's in this [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► person's heart any more than I do right [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► but that it is legitimately a thing as [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► much a thing as white cars bar and you [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► two have no recollection of it and this [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► person claims to have no recollection I [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► would despite listening all the way back [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► to hypercritical which is where this is [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► from not reconcilable differences anyway [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► all this is to say I hope you now [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► understand where I was coming from and I [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► hope you can use the white car example [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► as instructive to say maybe you wouldn't [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► mind that question maybe you a bomb [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► saying as if you said you didn't like it [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► I would understand why and I think Marco [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► would too because we both have the [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► shared context without the shared [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► context would you seem like a conspiracy [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► theory person what is this about white [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► cars what are you even talking about [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► imagine how frustrating it would be for [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► you to explain to me and Marco what the [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► deal with the white car thing [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► I do think okay I am laughing but I do [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► think I understand your point better [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► I think the difference for me and we can [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► move on but the difference for me is [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► that I it the white car thing is is for [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► better or worse like the defining gag [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► about me it's it's that and who the [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► hell's your suppose you'd only have one [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► Casey well - but I'm with ya again I'm [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► with you what's the second one water on [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► the computer no well okay three I said [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► who the hell is Casey in the computer [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► yeah in the computer if I say I'd [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► forgotten about that one you've got to [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► explain that context and I would say [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► you're crazy everyone knows who you are [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► fine [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► who the hell is Casey but my point is [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► just that there there are a handful of [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► things that I feel like all of us upon [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► hearing them would say yes of course [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► who the hell is Casey I remember and [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► this one to my eyes anyway was way more [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► esoteric in in Wayne it's an older I [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► mean it's older like it was we traced it [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► back it was like episode 50 of [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► hypercritical that's like six years ago [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► so you know me I guess you can forgive [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► infer Cleaver getting about it I was [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► just very surprised that neither one of [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► you could even vaguely remember that it [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► was a thing and we're just starting from [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► whole cloth as if I was just making this [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► up I assure you I am NOT no I never [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► really thought you were making it up it [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► just seemed it seemed kind of bananas to [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► me that you were so unequivocally [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► convinced that this was that this was [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► trolling I thought you would remember I [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► thought I mean obviously it's not as [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► recent as a white car but I thought one [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► or both of you would certainly remember [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► it and either way by the way I will [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► point out like at the end of this thing [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► I also look forward to John's you know [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► continued good-humoured suspicions I [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► mean obviously if someone was trolling [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► the trolley thing to do is not to tell [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► you they're trolling people on the [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► internet like it's it's really easy to [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► type words into a text box but I'm I'm [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► sure this person is being honest and [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► like you too has just completely [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► forgotten about this from labor critical [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► days cuz that was a long time ago [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► although to be honest so when did we [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► record neutral that would that started [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► in January of 13 is that right I think [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► that's right yeah that's better so that [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► was almost five years ago in [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► hypercritical was six or seven years ago [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► so I mean the white car thing is far [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► closer to hypercritical than it is to us [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► today you know what I mean like that's [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► which is weird right because I feel like [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► that was yesterday in so many ways but [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► anyway it was I was I was very punchy [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► when we recorded but I was never like [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► genuinely upsetting you I just thought [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► you were being utterly preposterous I [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► wasn't that's what I'm getting at but [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► just because you don't have the context [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► doesn't mean there isn't a context and [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► it's and it's completely irrelevant [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► whether he was being honest or not [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► that's why I was trying to get with the [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► white car think is legit someone could [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► listen to the show that's a that's a [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► real question the people asked should I [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► get a white car I've had that question [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► asked to me before I even came in the [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► show but it would be a hell of a [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► coincidence if they asked that on s KDP [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► wouldn't it why would any [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► you ask if they want to get a white card [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► on yeah exactly why would that matter [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► but why would they ask at ATP maybe this [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► just of legitimist quite honest question [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► but I would understand if Casey if Casey [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► gave it a little bit of side-eye and [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► maybe said maybe I'm not I mean it seems [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► to me that white car has just happened [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► to Casey he never has to actually have [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► you exactly you've owned like 17 white [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► cars have you ever had to ask anybody if [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► you should get a white car or not no [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► I've never asked anyone if I should it [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► doesn't seem like he had a choice right [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► yeah one of them one of them was a [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► choice I guess fall from from this guy [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► into your driveway and then their [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► engines break [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► can you just dubbing like the first 15 [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► minutes of the first neutral where we [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► discussed this one of them was [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► absolutely unequivocally my choice I [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► specifically requested white for one [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► every other one happened to me I'm [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► sticking with and for the record I'm [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► pretty sure Marcos are the only one he [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► obviously originated the white car thing [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► and I think he's the only one who really [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► cares my first car was a white car too [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► and I think all I said under trouble is [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► that if you have a really nicely shaped [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► car then you can get it in a white but [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► in your car isn't ugly don't get in a [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► white because it highlights how badly [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► shaped it is but beyond that I have no [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► objections to white cars we are [TS]

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00:24:53 ◼   ► minutes this is way faster than making [TS]

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00:24:56 ◼   ► camera and microphone to capture the [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► same information as an office visit [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► would and then a licensed [TS]

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00:25:05 ◼   ► healthy and that your vision hasn't [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► changed from your prior prescription [TS]

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00:25:54 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► speaking of ask ATP let's just mosey [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► right on in Shane booze lo writes do you [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► think using chi chargers everywhere and [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► topping off the iPhones batteries all [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► the time will impact battery health I [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► have no idea but I've had the same [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► question so I think this is probably [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► similar to lots of different like [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► battery health questions and theories [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► and best practices that we've heard over [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► the years with computers there is [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► probably some truth to the fact that [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► charging lithium batteries all the time [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► you know does actually shorten their [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► lifespan if they're if they're not kept [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► within their ideal long-term charging [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► health range which is usually not fully [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► charged usually it's closer to like [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► middle of the battery charge like if you [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► want it looking better to last as long [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► as possible keep the source level [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► somewhere near the middle or something [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► some kind of range near the middle and [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► that tends to keep them lasting longer [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► the reason I added this and what I [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► thought was kind of worth talking about [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► is like I feel like with with your phone [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► that you're using every day that you are [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► charging every night then you are using [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► it throughout the day you know you're [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► putting like a good part of a full cycle [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► on the battery every day sometimes more [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► if you use it heavily I feel like your [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► battery is not going to be very useful [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► for more than about two years maybe [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► three years if you if you're more gentle [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► on it but like no matter what you do [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► this is really hard on a battery to be [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► used to be basically cycled a full side [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► meaning like you know full charge to [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► nearly empty to have to be going through [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► flows like almost every day you're gonna [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► wear out that battery pretty much no [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► matter what you do and so the [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► alternative which is you know topping it [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► off on these little charges all over [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► your house and car and workplace all the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► time I don't think that's that much [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► worse you know it might actually be [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► better even like what's worse for a [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► lithium-ion battery [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► keeping it at a full charge for a day or [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► going through a full cycle I don't know [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► but it's probably not gonna be that [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► different either way you're using it [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► heavily you know like if you have a [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► laptop and you use it on battery for its [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► full range every day that's going to do [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► the same thing at the laptop if you keep [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► it plugged in all the time that's gonna [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► be better for it but you know again like [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► maybe not that much better because of [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the full charge being bad thing so I [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► think the answer here is keeping them [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► uncharged all the time will probably [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► impact battery health but the [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► alternative would probably impact it [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► more and in the grand scheme of things [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► your phone battery no matter what you do [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► is gonna be is gonna have a not that [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► useful amount of charge after two or [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► three years no matter what you do there [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► are other factors here as well that make [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► it I don't know what the answer is just [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► muddies the water even more of whether [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► this is better worse or the same but to [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► start like I bet people are not going to [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► buy such a tremendous number of t [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► chargers that they are now charging [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► their phone appreciably more than they [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► used to if only because T chargers [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► charge your phone so much more slowly [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► and one of the things that shortens [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► battery life is really fast charging so [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► if you have a big iPad charger the at [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► your desk that you plug your thing into [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► to get as much juice as possible when [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► you're at your desk versus putting in on [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► a Qi charger the charger is much more [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► slowly the slower one is going to be [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► kinder on your battery and if you but it [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► won't charge as much obviously in the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► same amount of time but if you have a [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► bunch of key charges around in the house [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► what you're instead doing instead of [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► charging very quickly in one location [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► you're charging more slowly in multiple [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► locations which again I think is better [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► for the battery so there's you know [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► you'd really need to come up with an [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► exact regime of where you're going to be [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► and what you're going to charge to [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► compare exactly this pattern of use to [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► exactly this pattern of use but in [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► general I would say don't worry about [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► this don't don't worry about the battery [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► life being affected because there are [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► just so many variables and [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► depending on how they're each weighted [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► in this giant equation you could get [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► better worse of the same battery life [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► but like Marco said either way if you [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► chart if you use your phone the same [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► amount every day that's in the end [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► you're using your phone that amount it's [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► got two or three years of that many [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► cycles even if you don't psyche although [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► by two or three years or just that much [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► putting energy into the battery and [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► taking energy out even if you could [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► always do it in the fat part of the [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► curve where it's all good [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► your battery's gonna be a lot worse than [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► it was when you bought it and you're [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► probably gonna want a new phone and [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► that's just the way things are indeed [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► all right JT you would like to know what [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► are your thoughts and feelings on Apple [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► TV remote redesigned for air power into [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► fix other issues you know a lot of [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► people have been writing in about what [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► about this for air power our air power [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► what about that for air power I don't [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► get it like I think I said this last [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► episode but I will be very surprised if [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► anything else gets air power support [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► except maybe the pencil anytime soon I [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► don't think this is going to be like the [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► catch-all you know cover your all of [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► your desks and all of your you know uh [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► kitchen counters and air power sort of [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► thing I think this is only going to be [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► for iOS devices and you know the air [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► pods and and and I guess watch OS is [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► strictly speaking different OS but you [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► know what I mean like I don't think it's [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► gonna be keyboard and mouse and Apple TV [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► remote in any of those send MacBook in [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► MacBook yeah exactly and especially like [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► the Apple TV remote I've charged that [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► thing probably four times or feels like [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► I've charged it four times in the year [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► I've had it I mean that may not be [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► accurate but it just at my point is just [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► it almost never needs a charge same with [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► my keyboards and my mice mouse's nieces [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► they almost never need a charge so what [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► are you really solving if it's at worst [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► a you know momentary inconvenience if [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► you know once a quarter or something [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► like that but I don't know what do you [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► think Marco I pretty much the same I [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► mean I I have not you know we use our [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► Apple TV almost every day at least we [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► did before he got stuck in stardew [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► valley and yeah I think I've charged it [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► yeah maybe maybe three times you know [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► it's it's not a high drain device so the [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► need to make charging especially [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► convenient is is not that high [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► also that tends to be a different place [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► in your house or your office or you [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► might have when your office and you tend [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► not to travel with it so like if if the [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► benefit of an air power mat is like the [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► thing that you stick on your nightstand [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► table that you put all your stuff on at [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► night well you're probably not going to [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► have your Apple TV remote you know in [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► your in your bedroom if you if your [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► Apple TV is not there [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► similarly you know if the appeal of this [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► thing ends up being those really [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► convenient while traveling you're [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► probably not going to travel with your [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► Apple TV remote either and if you do you [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► probably won't need to charge it on the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► trip so you know it's it's a nice theory [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► but I don't think it matters that much [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► the Apple TV remote has so many other [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► problems that they refuse to address so [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► if they aren't even gonna bother making [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► it usable while it's charged I don't [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► think they're gonna care that much that [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► it's slightly inconvenient to charge it [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► when you do it you know every six months [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► I frequently forget that the Apple TV [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► remote has a battery and it's not like [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► there's a battery door and it like I'm [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► not sure if I have ever charged my [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► applet I think I replaced my Apple TV [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► before I charge the battery on it it [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► lasts or I don't use as much as mark [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► obviously it lasts a really really long [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► time although I have a too quick Apple [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► TV remote stories the last time I lost [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► it I'm always losing the Apple TV remote [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► because it's skinny and it goes down [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► couch cushions stuff like that you know [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► my kids use it and so it's not like who [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► knows but like they carry it into the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► kitchen they you know they it's in the [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► bathroom who knows where they're taking [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► this road it's just everywhere right and [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► there's no as far as I'm aware please [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► tell me if I'm wrong there's no like [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► fine your remote function where you can [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► make it make a beeping sound I would [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► love that that they that hence the [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► feature they should add but anyway I [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► lost my remote and I thought like this [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► is it I've well and truly lost it I know [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► I was thinking like boy I'm glad they [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► reduced the price to $60 down from 80 [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► because I'm gonna have to buy another [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► remote and even though you got the [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► remote on your iOS device where you can [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► use that instead of the thing as far as [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► I'm aware you can't can you wake your [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► thing from sleep with that I don't know [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► and I didn't try it but I was like well [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► I'd like do I think I can't use my Apple [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► TV until I get a replacing remote [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► because I don't think you can wake the [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► little black cube from sleep without the [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► real remote yeah you can if you gotta [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► airplay to it I believe it'll wake [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► itself up [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► yeah that's good yeah I was thinking [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► like I would guess the RemoteApp would [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► let you do it but I can't I haven't [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► tried it so I don't know one way or the [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► other but I can tell you I'll L airplay [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► to it from time to time and that will [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► wake it up right anyway [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► I was halfway through that thought when [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► I looked up at my little black thing and [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► the little white light was on so like [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► you know I don't have to wake it up it's [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► already awake and I'm like but how can [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► it already be awake I've been looking [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► for this road for 15 minutes and I know [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► it goes to sleep like no one has been in [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► his room for a while and based on that [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► information I realized I must be sitting [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► on the remote somehow and that's what's [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► waking up and sure enough I took yet [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► another run at the couch cushions and [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► the little things that are between them [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► it's like a sleeper sofa or whatever and [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► eventually I found the remote somewhere [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► underneath my butt where I was squishing [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► it and turning it on the second story is [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► about someone had realized there was a [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► bunch of iTunes purchases going through [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► where they'd purchased like every [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► episode of Seinfeld and a bunch of TV [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► series [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► I'm a or you know it was like a husband [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► and wife and they were asking each other [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► did you buy these did you buy these [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► things turns out it was the cat the cat [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► would lay on top of the remote and buy [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► things for them on the turned off [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► television through their Apple TV remote [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► so I don't know if that makes us a [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► better motor a good remote it's bad [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► because it's lost easily it's probably [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► bad because the cat can buy things but [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► maybe not like cats are very devious all [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► and Kent eken Gore writes how can a [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► polemic ated things with software like [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► face detection and they are yet still [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► get so many simple things consistently [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► wrong like 1 plus 1 or 1 plus 2 plus 3 [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► on the iowa's calculator and UI bugs [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► related to device orientation such as [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► the attached we'll put a link in the [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► show notes and it's a picture of what [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► appears to be the phone or iPad I think [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► phone in portrait mode yet [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► the volume indicator is shown in [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► landscape whoops with regard to rotation [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► I can say that rotations are pain in the [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► bud yeah yep any eye any iOS developer [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► will tell you that so that I give them a [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► buy on although it does seem that there [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► are a lot more rotation bugs in iOS 11 [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► than there were before there's a lot [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► everything bugs every weapon in a while [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► but yeah you're right I don't have a [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► good answer for this I I guess in to [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► some degree it's easy to get amazed by [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► the new and shiny and and it's hard to [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► it's hard to build software reliably and [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► predictably that's why you know agile [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► software development became a thing was [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► it was an attempt to be better about [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► building up be better about predicting [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► when software would be complete right [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► and in the whole shtick of it was that [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► you wanted to be able to predict future [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► the future based on your performance in [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► the past rather than oh well I should be [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► able to get that done in two weeks you [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► can look at your past history and say no [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► actually that'll take you a month and a [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► half and you know it all of the stuff [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► around enterprise level software [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► development which I know Marco doesn't [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► understand but John and I all it's hard [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► it's hard work it's hard to figure out [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► the balance between how much you know [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► how many unit tests you should write in [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► how many shouldn't and what your [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► continuous integration story is like all [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► of the stuff is hard and it's not to [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► most people it's not very sexy and so [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► what is sexy face detection what is sexy [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► augmented reality what's not sexy [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► Jenkins oh it's it's understandable if [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► not necessarily excusable that this [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► would be the case but I don't know John [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► as my fellow boring old man when it [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► comes to writing software how do you how [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► do you describe this I'm not sure you [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► need to bring software methodologies and [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► software in general entry even if they [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► weren't talking about software even if [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► this was talking about like you notice [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► that dudes car analogies that's the [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► other thing we go to like how can they [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► get this amazing you know engine new [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► engine technology working but their [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► climate controls suck and it's you know [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► it's just human nature and priorities [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► and with anything were you especially in [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► a business like Apple's where you're [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► it's not that it's a hit driven business [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► but that you you're only as good as your [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► last success things like the calculator [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► the iOS calculator bug where like some [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► animations in the calculator caused it [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► to be less responsive right [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► how many people are scrutinizing how [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► good the calculator is from release to [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► release it's not a head lighting feature [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► there are not a lot of resources put [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► towards the calculator when it was first [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► made there was probably more than there [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► are now [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► but there is an inclination in companies [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► that have to make money to say we'll put [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► time and resources and people into this [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► thing because it's the thing that we [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► need and then when we're done with it [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► we'll be like great we did that what's [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► the next thing move on to the next thing [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► right and take people off of that and [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► say those people are working and you [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► have to leave somebody there but this [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► some poor maintenance engineer is [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► responsible for the calculator and seven [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► other like neglected iOS applications [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► and you know people are human and you [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► don't notice that maybe the animations [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► you're adding are making the thing less [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► responsive because like you know do you [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► have a test where it's something some [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► automated thing presses the buttons [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► really fast to make sure you know it's [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► just it's just less important it's lower [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► priority there are fewer people on it [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► and that's just the nature of the nature [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► of humans the nature of work and the [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► nature of a business so many many things [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► are explicable by the boring answer that [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► you know that that we did that and we [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► can't afford to leave our very best [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► engineers maintain the calculator for [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► the rest of their careers because [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► they're not going to like that they're [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► going to leave the company and it [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► wouldn't be efficient use of our [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► resources so we get our best people [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► working on the next hard problem and [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► everything else gets less priority and [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► because humans do humans sometimes those [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► things mess up everything after that [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► that's like the easy thing to explain [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► everything after that like why is iOS [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► love and have more bugs does it seem [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► like it actually has more bugs is your [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► perception different than their metrics [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► are they measuring the wrong thing all [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► the way down to software is hard and [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► software methodologies and all that [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► stuff so from the outside it might seem [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► inexplicable but as Casey I think was [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► trying to express software and any large [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► enterprise including making a car or any [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► sort of thing is much more complicated [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► than you think it is as a consumer of [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► that thing and complicated systems are [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► hard to predict and hard to manage and [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► you know that's it there's no you know [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► it's not it's not the apples being mean [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► or it's still people who don't know what [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► they're doing [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► nobody knows what they're doing there [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► there are no adults there is no silver [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► bullet [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► yada yada Apple has for a very long time [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► shown that they are not very good at [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► multitasking and that whatever is the [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► current hotness gets all the attention [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► and whatever isn't gets either complete [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► neglect or at best like drive-by updates [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► O'Hare they like you know like like Disk [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► Utility on Mac OS is like a great [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► example of it where like you know the [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► met the entire Mac is pretty neglected [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► much of the time and when things do get [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► updated on the Mac they tend to get [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► updated in these drive-by fashions where [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► like someone seems to be assigned like [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► hey wait [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► rewrite this whole thing this app that [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► nobody would really need to be rewritten [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► rewrite at all and then they're given [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► enough time to rush together an almost [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► complete version and then it ships and [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► then it seems like no one's allowed to [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► fix any bugs in it ever again or they're [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► not on the project anymore or they don't [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► have time or they're assigned to other [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► things and have moved on and so things [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► get updated or created from scratch on [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► these low in these low priority areas [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► and then whatever is released as like [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► 1.0 which was probably rushed to meet a [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► very tight deadline those bugs basically [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► stick around for a very long time or [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► forever anything that is not the current [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► hotness that tends to be the case of [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► Apple as John said there are lots of [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► good reasons for that involving money [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► and priorities I think Apple standards [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► should be higher you know Apple [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► standards are higher than average in [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► most other ways I think their standards [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► for how to deal with they're not as [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► quite high priority products should be [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► also similarly high but they're not and [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► that's not a new thing even you know [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► even that that isn't even Tim Cook thing [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► like even under Steve that was always [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the case we're like whatever was was not [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► the current hotness got pretty badly [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► neglected and there's also a secondary [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► divide here where Apple's frameworks [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► have almost always been really really [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► good like in in the entire era of modern [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► Apple I don't know what it was like [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► before you know before I was tanner like [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► in the entire era of modern Apple the [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► frameworks have always been amazing [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► you know things like you know the AR kit [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► you know things like court makes core [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► audio the foundation like all that stuff [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► they make amazing frameworks and that [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► stuff has been solid pretty much you [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► know the vast majority of the time and [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► very advanced the applications on that [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► they that Apple ships at the OS and the [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► built and the table on top of that on [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► top of this frameworks have had a much [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► spottier past and a much spotty record [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► the applications definitely seem like a [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► lower priority for them then that also [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► seems like an area where in recent years [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► applications have struggled way more [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► than the foundation stuff so it might [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► just be Apple is not has not figure out [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► how to manage this well it certainly is [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► certainly that that's what the results [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► seem to indicate but it's like that for [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► everybody like you there is no you can't [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► just say oh let's keep all the best [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► people working on the things that they [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► originally create because they don't [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► want doing that and now it's a retention [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► issue like they don't want to work [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► forever on this one thing they helped [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► create they want to move on to the next [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► thing because they're smart ambitious [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► people and if you don't let them you [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► know then you'll have a retention [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► problem in if you even if you you know [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► it's a hyper competitive world where [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► everyone is scrutinizing what Apple does [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► so closely that if they actually did [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► leave significant sort of standing [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► armies attached to everything they ever [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► made to make sure the thing that [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► everything they make is continuously [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► improved and maintained [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► that's an inefficient use of resources [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► with like why are you spending all this [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► money why are your margins going down oh [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► we needed to leave a team of seven on [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► the calculator forever and multiply that [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► by every piece of software we ever make [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► so I was in the calculator done what [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► needs to be updated on it's like well if [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► we just leave one person on it then [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► there's a chance that that one person [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► can make a silly mistake and make us [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► look bad and so everything has to be [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► higher quality so you know we'll leave [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► this team of seven on calculator in it [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► and no matter what team of seven guy [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► said they won't want to do it and like a [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► lot of these things you feel like [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► they're a training program for less [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► experienced people like before you get [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► to be in the Big Show and you know work [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► on a super important new feature in UI [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► kit or work on a major new feature in [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► the OS maybe you have to maintain disk [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► utility for a few years and that's how [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► you learn right like there's no there's [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► no easy solution [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► people are not interchangeable cogs [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► programming is a complicated endeavor [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► and Apple doesn't actually have [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► unlimited money and does actually have [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► people scrutinizing every cent that it [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► spends and at telling them that they [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► should have margins that are higher than [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► they do so you know I don't know there's [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► you know it is a spectrum it's not as if [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► a saying Oh a blow everything apples [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► doing they're doing as well as they can [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► they can and should adjust things right [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► they can and should pay more attention [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► to things that you know they shouldn't [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► let as much slip as they do and they [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► should be not be Pennywise pound-foolish [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► where are we saved a couple bucks here [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► by moving some people around what is [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► what are the potential downsides for the [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► image of the company all the way up to [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► what are the potential downsides if we [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► invest a lot in a feature and spend a [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► lot of time and energy on it and it [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► doesn't turn out that well how do we fix [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► that or burn you know insert your [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► favorite feature there whether it be the [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► touch bar or the new keyboard [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► reliability or any other thing whether [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► they really did dedicate a lot of [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► resources and doesn't turn out as well [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► as they wanted like software's hard life [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► is hard yeah but I think there's also a [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► middle ground here like the the [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► impression I I have gotten from reports [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► from people within over the last many [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► years this seems to always be a [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► consistent story that we hear from [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► people at Apple is that it's not like [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► there were seven people on the [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► calculator team and they reduced it down [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► or they couldn't have those people [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► forever or that it was done none of [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► those things were true what was probably [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► true is the calculator had zero people [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► working on it for a very long time then [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► when a new system design or style or [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► marketing heavy feature was being added [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► to iOS or new hardware somebody was [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► somebody who was already very busy was [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► tasked with update updating this app [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► along with probably as you mentioned [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► probably seven other apps to the new [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► animation style or the new design style [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► or with or take advantage of the new [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► feature of the phone or just the new [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► size of these phones or whatever else so [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► that was someone's job they had enough [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► time to do a two-thirds complete job so [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► they because they had to rush to meet [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► the deadline for when this OS and phone [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► shipped and then after it shipped the [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► staff was returned back to zero [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► so that we have heard that story so many [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► times from people inside so it isn't [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► that it isn't that things are just done [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► and that the markets demanding that they [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► you know or that you know that all of a [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► sudden they're undone like it's [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► following marketing features they have [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► to keep things updated and they had and [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► they keep seemingly very very small [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► staffs available to do things that [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► aren't high priority apps or features or [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► platforms like the calculator app or [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► like you know the Mac head and then as [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► soon as that thing is is done the am at [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► the budget of time allocation for that [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► that's available to fixed bugs in it [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► literally drops to zero not some zero [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► that is a management problem that needs [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► to be adjusted [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► other perverse and perverse incentives [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► too and and yeah and and that's and [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► we've heard that too like we've heard a [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► lot of reports also from people that one [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► of the issues that causes this kind of [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► thing that leads to this kind of thing [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► is the incentive structure in the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► company seemingly favors rewriting large [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► projects are being on high profile [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► platforms and doesn't favor doing more [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► boring things that's something to be [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► done and that's also a management [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► problem like that's like they need to [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► find ways to to adjust their internal [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► structures and policies and workflows [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► and incentives to make high quality [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► platforms and apps happen more often [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► than they do the incentive that I was [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► thinking of was if you're on if you're a [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► cast with doing something with [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► calculator or if you're one person who [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► is responsible for seven applications [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► and the max utility folder or something [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► you're not particularly incentivized to [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► slowly make the thing better by adding a [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► feature here and a feature there because [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► like you know take the terminal for [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► example terminal it don't it always [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► amazes me when the terminal gets any [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► features because the downsides are big [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► if you mess up the terminal it's a thing [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► that a lot of people use and they're [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► going to yell at you and if terminal is [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► working fine like why add any minor [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► features to it because all you're doing [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► is adding a new more bug surface like oh [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► I added [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► silly feature two-terminal and now I [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► have 17 bug reports on it and I don't [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► have any time to work on it because I'm [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► off doing other things now and I'm the [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► one person who's responsible for [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► terminal in seven other applications I'm [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► not motivated to add features to [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► terminal and justify them and say why I [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► had to spend engineering time on them [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► because every feature I add is a new [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► thing that people can file bugs against [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► and if you know if we just leave it the [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► way it is we've got our existing bug [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► backlog that we're probably just [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► ignoring forever if we haven't fixed it [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► by now and there's nothing new to do and [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► what you were getting as the you know [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► being on the glory projects like no one [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► ever notices bah this guy's great he's [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► slowly improved the terminal over the [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► course of eight years and has had very [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► few bugs and every new feature that he [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► added versus this person worked on [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► worked on the first version of watchkit [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► right one of those probably helps your [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► career inside Apple more than the other [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► but from the outside perspective [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► especially if you never buy a watch I [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► would love a slowly improving terminal [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► that had like the equivalent of one or [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► you motivated indie developers working [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► on it who like terminal was their entire [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► livelihood and they had that kind of [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► motivation but that doesn't exist inside [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► Apple no one inside Apple is going to [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► work on terminal the same way like the [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► the I term authors are going to work on [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► their thing as if their entire [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► livelihood depends on constantly [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► improving and maintaining the terminal [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► application which you know is a shame [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► but there's that's not really I don't [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► know everyone always says everyone we [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► were making like a start-up inside a big [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► company but I've never seen that done [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► successfully well I mean the thing that [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► is is that my limited understanding of [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► what the culture is like with an apple [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► is that they still fancy themselves the [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► plucky upstart and they're not they're [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► just not and how do you maintain and [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► both we've got both of you guys have [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► said this how do you maintain any sort [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► of talent at the company when part of [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► being good at what you do is being good [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► at the boring stuff and it's just it's [TS]

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00:53:21 ◼   ► year I'm pretty sure single-handedly [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► Marco came up with a with a genuinely [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► brilliant idea to do a little bit of a [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► Thanksgiving special and ask and have [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► each of us describe what tech stuff we [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► are thankful for this year and I really [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► really loved how that turned out and so [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► did a lot of listeners and so Marco you [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► were good enough to remember to talk [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► about it again this year so Marco what [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► text offer you thankful for this year I [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► wanted to keep the list pretty short [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► this year and I'm just super running low [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► on time but you only got four items but [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► there's a tie for number three [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► all done sir yeah I actually do it four [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► times so one of them is my wonderful [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► beloved 2015 MacBook Pro we will get to [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► that in more detail later oh my god I [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► you know look I just love it I wrote a [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► whole blog post about how much I love it [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► it's great and it's it is exactly what [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► text should be which is it just works it [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► delights me and I don't really have to [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► think about it if I don't want to it [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► just works [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► also in the world of Apple hardware I am [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► incredibly happy with the 10.5 inch iPad [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► pro and the smart Keyboard that I bought [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► with it you know I'm I don't use my iPad [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► for very complicated things but I do use [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► it frequently every day I use it it's [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► always in the kitchen or on the table or [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► on the couch and every day I use it to [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► only play podcasts in the kitchen and [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► dining area but then I will often then [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► use it as my couch browsing device and [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► things of that and it's it's just very [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► pleasant to use I'm not an iPad power [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► user by any means I still bring a laptop [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► one night when I'm working [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► but I'm doing anything that's not really [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► work especially you're on the house the [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► iPad is wonderful and the 10.5 inch was [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► such a great update in so many ways the [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► screen size is great and especially once [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► you see it next to and 9.7 again you [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► realize that quite have much of an [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► improvement it was it seemed like a [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► pretty small improvement at the time but [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► it's really nice so it's a great device [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► I always have it propped up in the smart [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► Keyboard so text-entry is nice and fast [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► on it if I need that and it's just it's [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► great I'm very very happy with my iPad [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► pro 10.5 third I will add the general [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► category of power and charging gear by [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► Ankur this is you know it's not that new [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► of an opinion to like anchor gear the [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► world of dealing with our tech these [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► days especially iOS devices with [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► lightning ports and everything else [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► things become a lot more convenient and [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► easier and more pleasant when you can [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► get plentiful charging and power and [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► gear for not that much money and that's [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► pretty high-quality an anchor is not the [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► only brand that does this but I think [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► they are the brand that does the most of [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► it and the most consistent [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► and so very very happy with anchor gear [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► both like the the multi USB port wall [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► chargers their standalone batteries are [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► also great and of course they're they're [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► like heavy-duty braided cables lightning [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► cables are great and they cost so little [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► relatively speaking that you can have a [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► bunch of them and you can put them all [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► over your house you can carry extras [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► around and bags and you can set up like [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► you know different charging stations at [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► different different rooms in different [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► places like your office in your house in [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► your car and it's just really really [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► nice to have all that stuff become [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► inexpensive and good it really it really [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► makes art digital lives with all these [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► charging things a lot easier and finally [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► a special honorable mention to [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► everything I have ever bought from the [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► company sound devices this is very [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► specialized if you are not a sound or [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► video pro you probably have never heard [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► of this company and you probably [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► shouldn't ever hear about this company [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► but if you work with sound or video gear [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► well haven't used their video stuff if [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► you work with sound gear at all the [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► devices by sound devices are not cheap [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► at all but this is truly ProGear is I [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► use a USB pre - for recording here for [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► our live show and for my increasing live [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► and multi port needs [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► I recently splurged and bought one of [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► their 6 Series mixers their stuff is [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► just so damn good and it just works this [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► is true Pro gear and it's total overkill [TS]