00:00:00 ◼ ► so John I'm curious do you realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► much of a Boston accent you have I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► not have a Boston accent you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► know what a Boston accent is even watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► too many too many of the the stupids of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► what's-his-name Matt Damon's friend Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► Affleck yeah I know what a Boston accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► is and I know you don't have a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► one but you do have some of one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► don't think I don't think you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► I don't I know during this podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► misspoke and said some word that sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► like it has a Boston accent because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► like bailed in the middle of a word and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/28">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► changed to a different thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► ended up coming out I recognized that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► did that in this episode yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► not me doing a Boston accent that was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► totally miss speaking and like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► rope it back in the middle of a word in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► this weird sound coming out do not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► that word that way I heard myself do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► too but no I have a New York accent for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► as far as I have any accent it's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► people complain about I say Mario that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► look you live there you can't you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► deny that it's going to have an effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► on you oh it doesn't I'm not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► those people I'm not one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► differently than me you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► pick it up like a hundred percent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► like you definitely have some slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► boston influence in your speak I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► think I do at all zero so wrong zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► amount like some sort of weird access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► issue of the past two days trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► to daring fireball like it's not a DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► thing because I think it's going past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► forever to load like I started to load a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► page before I picked up your call it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► throws a white screen in Safari is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► possible that's because your computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/96">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► slower than like my phone from last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/97">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► demanding site there in firewall with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► all its widgets and geegaws it's a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► that I'm very sure geg aw I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/114">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► officially removed from the dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► 30 years ago a showy thing especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► one that is useless or worthless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► also it's usually GE WG aw googa googa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► I think he said giggle oh you're right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► did all right well then maybe giggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► isn't a word no is it an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► spelling yeah I think so cuz I looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/140">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► yeah oh no I well I guess it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► autocorrect thing because it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► goo God's apparently digitally plural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► wow this is already taking a turn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► the unexpected it's important to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► leap is right merriam-webster has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► it's a less common variant of Google I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► don't wanna do this first I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► follow up because I really don't wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► hear any more whining about the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► MacBook Pros gentlemen it'll be quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► it's quickie okay it's yeah I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► that once you bring up a complaint about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► the MacBook Pro it's totally going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► a 30-second endeavour ball I I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► put the dues quick in there I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► that it won't be great I'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► punchy you having a holiday party no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► not be that's the problem especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► given this first item the follow-up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► need a holiday party until the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► are fixed we're gonna keep talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► them hey you know what they're not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► they're not all bad anyway the 60% of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/194">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► apparently are fine yeah but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► all bad I don't know that reference John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► don't care I'm already punchy so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► starting with follow up ladies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► gentlemen and apparently John said his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► complaint about a 2016 or 17 MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► will be and I'm quoting very quick I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► so look at the timer look at the elapsed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► time let's go buckle up kids what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► going on John I've got one of these at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► work remember so I use it every day so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► have in case you have complaints anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► I noticed this today I very rarely do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► anything with my laptop or work except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► keep it closed and plug it in to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► devices but I was in a lot of meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► today and I had two laptop open and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► lighting was just right and it occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► to me that still in 2017 Apple's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► keyboards where the keys touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/244">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► screen when you close it and that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► true for years and years and years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► years has it ever not been true is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► ever made a keyboard where the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► don't touch the screen well guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► finger greases on the keys and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► finger grease is on my keyboard in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/256">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► shape on my screen in the shape of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► keyboard in the long list of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► we want Apple to correct I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► it is possible for Apple to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► laptop computer when you close it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► grease from your fingers on the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► does not come off onto the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► you don't get a greasy outline of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► the keys in the keyboard and screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► believe that's possible we have very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/275">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► profile keys they're all about thinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► well I think they did I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► know if they still do on my original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► PowerBook g4 the aluminum PowerBook g4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► that was my first Mac that like I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► heard about this problem about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► because and back then like when you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► the matte screen it was a lot easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► a permanent imprint to develop because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► you couldn't really wipe off that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► the screen coating very very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► to clean it and I had heard about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► and so I decided as a policy that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► would carry the laptop in the backpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► such that the screen lid was not facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► my back it was facing the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► carrying it this way every day to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► from work and everything I never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► that problem my that that computer never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► developed the imprint of the keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► the screen and my theory was that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► perfect layout of the laptop back on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► desk the screen and keyboard don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► actually touch but if there's any flex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► that's squeezing the laptop a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► from from the sides like in a bag any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► because it's such a tiny little gap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► I imagine over time that gap has only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► gotten smaller so it's possible that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► while sitting on a desk it doesn't press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► against it but that if you have it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► bag or in a certain kind of stand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► stands it upright like anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► would possibly apply pressure to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► outside of it like books next to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► bag that might compress it just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► to make that contact happen yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► sure that's what's happening but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► saying you know we got the butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► keyboard how many years ago Casey we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► make a keyboard that like collapses into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► the case and gets out of flex distance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► don't know I'm just saying it's it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► area of potential improvement not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► for this laptop but you know we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► very low profile keys I figured like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/377">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► you'd use that gap should be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► bigger and not smaller because nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► likes greasy keys on that screen no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► you're asking them to make even lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► profile keys please for the love of God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► do not solve this problem in this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► keyboard down you can make high keys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► then have them sink into the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► magically I don't know no one's use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► not bad oh my god the butterfly keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► was 1995 I'll put links in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► notes I actually noticed it was either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► today or yesterday that are my beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► MacBook adorable which I wouldn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► in any way don't tell them anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► noticed that I noticed that on that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► machine I generally hold it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► by maybe the hinge or I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► remember and it's not sitting next to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► so I can't like demonstrate to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► but I was holding it in such a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► I felt like it was giving a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► and I think I was putting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► of pressure toward the center of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► screen which is not something I normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► do I don't like to mess with the LCD but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► it just so happened that I gripped it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► such a way that I noticed that this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► the if I put pressure on the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► the LCD but roughly where the Apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► is while it's closed I can feel it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► give enough to come into contact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► so it's just like you're describing John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► where the clearly the screen is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► impacting the keys and I don't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► ever having a laptop that did that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► I'm probably wrong and I bet all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► do it but it was a very uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► very unnerving feeling that I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► like and that that happened to me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► I will also note to go back a step to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► Marco strategies to avoid keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/470">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► grease I knew for a long time several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► super nerds that used to keep I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► even think they still come in them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► the Mac books or MacBook Pros anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► but it used to be when you got an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► laptop you know where this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► right so they used to have this sheet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► like not foam but like some sort of foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► like material that would be between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► display and the keyboard and I knew a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/495">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► lot of people that would carry that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► them and then put it in their device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► before they close the lid in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► prevent any sort of scraping against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► screen and I always thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► crazy until one day I noticed an outline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► if a keyboard on my screen and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► well okay that's a little bit weird but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► maybe not so crazy after all no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► people still do that and they were even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► there were a third party like cloths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► that would fit it perfectly also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► people would do that that's that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► pretty widespread thing for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► I think it is still done by about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► same number of people that that ever did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► it but to me that always felt to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/526">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► phone in a pouch that has DSi take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► out of this pouch before he uses it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► that's like a step too far for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► with the laptop that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► that'd having like a piece of cloth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► I stick between the laptop keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► lid when I close it and have to open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► up and take it off every time like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► that's like too fiddly for me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► would rather have the imprint of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► keyboard that has to do that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► single time all I hear is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► too jealous of my incredibly clean phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► but this brings actual solution to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► problem and the grand tradition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► if they just made their screens touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► screens then the giant amount of finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► grease randomly placed all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► screen would mask the shape of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► keyboard which would still be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► wouldn't be able to see it especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► they coated it with whatever's coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► the 10.5 inch iPad pro screen which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► so like this is the most fingerprinting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► iOS device I think I've ever had I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► they had to change the coding for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► Apple pencil like to make that work well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► and not wear it weirdly but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► whatever is different the 9.7 didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/589">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► constant wall of fingerprints it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► hideous I wish I knew any way to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► that besides using gloves or using one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► of John's pouches stop touching your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/603">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► shortcuts yeah oh speaking of speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► of phone cases I do have some follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► you are still case ulis but I am no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► longer caseless oh yeah yeah so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► winter is setting in here in the East [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► Coast in these places that have winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► cold dry hands that I'm that I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► on some at some of these days made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► feel a lot less secure about carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► the iPhone 10 caseless first I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► there there's a there's a vendor that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► will put in these show notes whose name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► I have forgotten again I keep kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► reading this name that it's basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► think it's this one guy in Brooklyn who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► laser cuts leather stick on backing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► like from real pieces of leather they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► really nice and they're only 25 bucks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► like it's not it's not like a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► crazy thing and and I have one on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► iPhone 4 and I moved it to the iPhone 4s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► at that because having like a flat piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► of leather on the back of the phone only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► does not cover the sides that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► cutout for the camera that's it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► just like leather with a hole for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► camera no logos not just blank leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► and it's high-quality so it feels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► soft and nice having that on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► the iPhone 4 with it with the glass back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► it was fantastic I was so glad to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► I figured I would let me try that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► for the iPhone 10 and I use it for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► days and if it does indeed feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► most of the time but the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► because it doesn't have straight sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► and and the four also had like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► tiny like rubber gasket lip that ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► around the glass on the back so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► of provided like a little wall to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/706">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► stick-on thing you had in the back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► like clean and contained the new phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► don't have it there they're so curvy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► rounded on the sides that any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► stick-on thing that only covers the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► if it has any thickness at all like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► it's not if it's more than just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► vinyl sticker kind of thing if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► any thickness at all it kind of has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► create its own edge and that edge guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► couldn't like peeled up as I would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► handle the phone like it just clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► this is not really made for this anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► and and so as much as I love the feel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► that I decided like I need something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► else that provides grip when to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► Apple store and felt all the cases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► actually like they prompted the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► Store it used to be impossible to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► out a case in the Apple store then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► stores had these like some sort of have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► somewhere where they would have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► little box or rack full of cases that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► you could try on like with an employee's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► help and now they just have like the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► like they have an example case on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► little post but the other cases are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► that the boxes for the cases are hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► on and you can just pick it up and stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► it on the phone that you have in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► pocket you can even put in your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► nobody arrest you and then you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► put it back and decide whether to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► or not and so you can actually try out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► all the cases on your phone in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► and in your pocket to see how they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► feel which is really nice I got to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► him credit for that anyway I tried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► the silicone case because that provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► the best grip of all the cases but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► pocket I have a serious problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► amount of friction that it has there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► may eventually go to that anyway but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► I'm hoping I don't have to I tried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► black leather case first I tried the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► leather case I tried like colors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► everything the color seemed way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► aggressive to me because they come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► around the edge and so you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► you're not just seeing the color on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► back of your phone you're seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► color framing everything on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► all the time and that to me it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► looked maybe this was I had just done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► for the first time but it looked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► little garish I didn't want like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► bright red you know 3/4 of a rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► around my content all the time so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► with just the Apple black leather case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► the same one I used for the sixth and 6s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► I'm not incredibly happy with it I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► say just because it still has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► problem of like it collects dust around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► the rim between it and the phone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► front it does cover up a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► makes this phone attractive at like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► know case design wise it does smooth out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► the camera bump completely which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► nice because the iPhone 10 has a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► prominent camera bump even more so than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► the previous phones and it really stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► up far off a desk and makes it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► lie flat so as so the Apple other case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► does fix that but ultimately the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/870">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► I like I know Casey you didn't did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► ever use yours caseless I have very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► very very briefly but I am way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► scared especially since I didn't pony up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► for Apple care this time I am way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/888">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► exclusively lived in the way in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► in the weather case in the leather case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► and so I do quite like the leather case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► I've used leather cases on and off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► I feel like this one I am particularly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► don't know if I'm looking for what word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► I'm looking for frustrated annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► displeased but one of those negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► adjectives because I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► getting way more pocket-lint around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► sides and I've ever had before that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► probably me being completely bananas but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► it just seems that way and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► seven which in and of itself fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► then add to your point the leather case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► on top of that which is not thin and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► comparison to the seven which I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► handling you know once or twice a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► for various reasons trying to get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► old date off my phone or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► feels way thicker than my seven does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► if you recall my seven I did not use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► case on for the first time in forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► because I did get AppleCare and ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► breaking the screen and this Apple Care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► or not this one I I just don't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► myself because I I think I will break it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► without question so that is many words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► to say I have the leather case I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► often used the leather case and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► like it's the best option I've seen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/975">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► thinking about trying out like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► those D brand skins that mkbhd likes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► lot I had one of those on my try one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► those on my six and my six plus back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► when I was experimenting with those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► they were they were decent they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► they're especially good a values but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► they're really cheap it was like twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► bucks for the whole phone or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► like that it's it's a very good price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► very good value but I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► look particularly good I think they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► a little bit cheesy and tacky and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the main problem I have is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► didn't provide that much more grip than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► just the bear phone so I think what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► probably gonna do is use the leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► case on and off like when it's cold and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► my hands are all dry and slippery but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► then most of the time when I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► it for that reason just use it bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► again because it's so much more pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► using it without a case it definitely is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► and remind me you do or do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► Apple care on that I do not oh you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► brave soul no I mean and look I admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► it's a risk but it's also $200 plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► fee to replace it if I drop it plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► there's a limit on how many times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► can drop it and it's like okay let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► see if I ever actually drop it and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► start dropping it so much that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► an extra two hundred dollars a year is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► good deal then I will change my policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► but again right now like because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► never dropped and broken a phone so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► it's not a good policy for me yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► don't know I mean really the only clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► - just put it in a little baggie every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► time you every time you're done using I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► mean why else why would you do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► else it's the only logical screen clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► oh my god I don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► scratching on stuff in my pockets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► it's only when I'm outside the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► it'sa me like that the screen would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► layer the little pouch that John has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► drop his phone in and out of that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► would increase the risk of dropping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► because that's one more thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► have to put it into and and you what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► you slightly miss the edge of the pouch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► and it falls off like yeah or I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► dropped my phone but if you are prone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► dropping this probably increases your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► chances of dropping right and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► opportunity to miss something right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► on the way out - it's like here's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► more thing you have to take the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► out of maybe if you reach into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► pocket you pull it out and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► accidentally slips at the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► pouch like there's so many conditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► where I think that's actually increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► your risk of damage it probably is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► like I said it hasn't happened to me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► when I'm clumsily trying to get it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► of like my nightstand it's not in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► passion that's totally just because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► not awake or it's dark or I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► careless that's the main place my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► falls is off of my nightstand onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► rug or hardwood floor next to it so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► we were ostensibly doing follow-up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► yeah we got derailed with with Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► case blows I think we were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► ostensibly doing filed follow-up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► line my MacBook Pro I think you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► are we ever really not in follow-up oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► my word all right so who added this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► glove thing I did because it remember we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► talked about the the Kickstarter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► those like touch ID fingerprint stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► who knows that that's even a thing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► we got a report that it actually is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► thing of course in Japan you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► them for $7 what do you mean of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► in Japan what's the old 80s or 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► stereotype that Japan is living like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► years in our future and everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► awesome there which is not actually true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► but it's the old the old saw from back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► when I was a kid when Japan was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► take over the world because they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► make better cars than us all right good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► save still can not California Oh God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► you're the worst oh wait is this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► 250 yeah it is Hey oh this is our 250th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► spectacular yeah do it happy whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► was it we're doing a show oh this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► most ATP a moment of any ATP moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► where is it we're lucky we remembered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► like not not too far into the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► know I totally I was not pretending that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I remember that you did mention it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► a week or two ago but I would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► thought I mean Marco should think of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► he sees the episode numbers when he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► like the like writes out the files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► stuff well and I thought about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► earlier this evening when I recorded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► ads but because I put them in a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► called ATP 250 it's this week and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► promptly forgot we respond to this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► by away for $20 off a suitcase visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► away travel calm slash ATP and use promo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► code ATP during checkout away makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► awesome high-quality suitcases they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► in over ten colors and five sizes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► small kid size through the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► popular carry-on sizes all the way up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► medium and large for longer stays all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► the way suitcases are made with high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► quality German polycarbonate that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► lightweight and very strong while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► offering a much lower price compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► traditional brands by cutting out retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► and selling directly to you they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► all sorts of convenient features like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► for spinning wheels instead of two a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► patent-pending compression system on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► inside to help you pack a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► in there if you need to removable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► washable laundry bag a TSA approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► combination lock and one of the coolest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► features is in their carry-ons they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► built-in USB batteries so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► actually charge your phone while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► waiting in an airport for your flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► and it's wonderful because you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► have to arrive with empty phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► it's one of those convenient little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► features that you wonder like how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► anybody ever not have this in a suitcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► it's pretty awesome and of course all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► warranty if anything ever breaks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► will fix or replace it for you for life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► you can see for yourself with a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► day trial you can actually bind away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► suitcase travel with it actually travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► with it for up to a hundred days and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► the end if you decide it's not right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► you you can return it for a full refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► so consider a way this holiday season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► away bags and accessories make for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► guarantee in that 100 day trial so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► there's a perfect size and color for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► everyone on your list this holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► season or if you can't make up your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► for somebody you can give them an away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► gift card check out a way today Attaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► travel calm / ATP and use promo code ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► during checkout for a $20 off off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► suitcase once again that is a way travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► calm / ATP and promo code ATP a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► out for $20 off a suitcase thank you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► much to a way for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► Aaron Lonard writes I agree with most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► your points Oh God on the 2016 MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► Pro 15 inch but we'll make one point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► exception I would not want to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► without touch ID that was introduced on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► this model I'm a consultant and have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► use one password constantly how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► remember those days throughout the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► to access client systems I have some RSI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► issues from time to time and typing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► using a finger print versus constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► typing to have my very long and complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► master password it is life-changing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► my workflow and efficiency the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► feature offset this one feature offsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► much of the criticism that I share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► regarding the other issues I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► makes sense I've never used a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► with touch ID if you recall the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► modern laptop I have is my macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► adorable the one I use for work is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► piece of garbage that's some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► popular Apple blogger recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► recently that's like 13 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► oh is Mark oh that's right so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► he's 2015 MacBook Pro I have only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► used touch bars for like 30 seconds at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► time in the Apple Store I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► what this amazing future is where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► can use touch ID but it sounds pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► good but you know what sounds are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► better face ID I want that in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► that's exactly why I put this in here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► like yes touch ID is great but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► what you really want his face ID because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► then you don't even have to put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► finger up and your face is always right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► there in view of the camera and touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► and laptops will be so much better our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► face ID and laptops will be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► something that has touch ID you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► obviously I don't use in clamshell most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► of the time but even when it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► clamshell like when I'm carrying around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► for meeting stuff to unlock it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► you know I like all work laptops it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► locks instantly if you like glance away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► it is and I don't know if this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► fault idea I don't think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► fault of Judge Atia I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► fault of all the evil software the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► computer to make them crappier but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► open that thing up and I put my finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► on that touchpad and it's like a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► time before that computer does anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► why probably has something to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► Active Directory or Wi-Fi certificates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► or God knows what it's doing but all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► know is it's not reading my fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► and unlocking in the computer same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► when I disconnected and connected from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► super duper Thunderbolt Doc thingy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► lets me have one cable that plugs in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► power this whole thing of peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► that's great part that's not great as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► plug or unplug that cable I might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► well go for a drink while my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► does sometimes I get a beach ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► sometimes they don't get a beach ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► sometimes it remembers my clicks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► replays them a minute later sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► doesn't remember my click and replay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► them later it just seemed like your it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► just like it says to me you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► something and I and maybe it's wrong for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► me to always blame Active Directory but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► I do pretty much always playing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► Directory network with my old computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► and now I am and everything is worse one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► thing I've family probably is not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► unfortunately but when I first got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► occasionally fail to wake up from sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► and I thought this was a high sierra bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► but it turns out that it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► 15-inch MacBook Pro 2015 bug that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► to exist before high sierra and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► to do apparently with power nap if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► disable power nap it completely stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► like the this problem just goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► completely I also noticed sometimes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► wet like it would it would seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► charging so very obviously like a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► nap related problem but I also as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► of the attempts to diagnose this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► disable hibernation because what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► any what every MacBook Pro does since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► the 2012 model is the the 2000 of retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► model not the 2012 not retina because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► back then when they introduced a radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► also updated the previous design with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► the new components anyway since the 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► retina MacBook Pro and forward one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► the reasons why they now get such better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► standby battery life is that after a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► hours of not being woken up if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► hibernation which PC users have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► familiar with for a long time which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► basically means they write the contents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► of RAM to a file on disk and fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► turnoff then when you boot it up it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► to like kind of wake up from that deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► hibernation by reading that hyper file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► and back into RAM and that's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► takes a little bit longer you might see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► a little bit different progress bar when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► it boots up this is slow and crappy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► unplugged from battery for two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► it's very helpful but if you plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► like every day and you're leaving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► closed for a few hours then this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► annoying and so I disabled that and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► the way once you disable that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► also delete the hibernation file which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► can get you back in disc space the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► amount of RAM you have which is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► look up on every Mac forum since 2012 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► how to do this since I disabled both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► power nap for the weird bugs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► hibernation with whatever like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► pseudo PM set command us to do it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► wakes up way faster from sleep like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► because what you're describing John that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► happens that's happened for to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► MacBook Pro for quite a while I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► notice during you know in my time using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► the touch bar versions that was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► way worse on the touch bars so whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► it's doing waking up from sleep or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► hibernation or whatever it whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► is something seems to be extra long or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► delayed or blocking or waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► something on touch bar models that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► subsequent software improvements have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► dropped that delay somewhat but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► still do it are you are you on icy air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► yet people just know what subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► flyby oh okay I guess it's only bezels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► subsequent whatever yeah I know it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► ya know I don't think I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► hibernation or power nap although I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► I routinely do you say below as well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► usually for this space reason it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► I've been doing that ever since you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► ever since the RAM got so big that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► started to eat a chunk eight but I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► to think about maybe I didn't do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► my work back but I'm sure it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► hibernating like this is me like I close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► it and then 30 seconds later I open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► like it hasn't gone into hibernation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► that point right and it's not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► screen is inert when it's coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► some things work and sometimes I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► can bring an application to the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► like before the beach ball appears but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► then eventually it stops responding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► power nap I haven't looked into is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► like you know power nap should only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► happen like Oh your computer's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► asleep for a while now it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► check email or some crap or do local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► Time Machine snapshots and I'd haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► disabled that and I'm sure my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► is doing that if it would ever go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► sleep I think I have it set never to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► sleep because it's plugged in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► battery power but maybe there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► other weird interaction where a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► nap is enabled at all it does some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► thing you just wake it up so I'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► both those things to get back to you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► I don't like having to do this voodoo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► like to just open the computer up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► mean the screen turns on immediately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► it seems you know it seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► ready to go in terms of like the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► cursor moves I could just it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► golf is a good walk spoiled like laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► are a good computer spoiled like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► desktops they work fine you walk up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► them you wiggle the mouse you hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► keyboard like you're there you just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and like computer like yes I'm here use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► me net ops like I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► know about that and that's what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► such I'd be worse is because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► fingers there's like kind of left my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► finger should when should I put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► finger down should I wait for the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► animation on the touch bar saying touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► ID here has it already authenticated me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and I was waiting if that's often the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► sometimes it's already authenticated I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► give up I take my finger off and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► like come on computer what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► and then it unlocks like based on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► finger that was laid on there like 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► seconds ago I don't like laptops you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► know you're right the Menai am in a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► it'll pay in the passenger seat and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► need to do a little bit of work I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► bringing my iMac and my inverter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► have nothing to be ashamed of nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► apologize for side blew it oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► when I'm on an airplane you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► the best way to use a computer on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► airplane is 27-inch iMac hell yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► that's where I like to use my desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► what I'm learning over over time as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► get old and and more like John is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► like I would rather just not use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► computer in a car and just wait till I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► get back to my listeners I uh I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► somebody out there is face I literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► just face bombed I hope somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► out there is facepalming as bad as I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► the combined age of the to you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► actually the real answer I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► thing that both DeMarco I think everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► agree on iOS devices like so they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► don't have problems and iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► imagine if you took out your iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► at like your iPad hit the power switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► and had to wait the amount of time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► have to wait to use my laptop it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► be like is this thing broken right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► instantly like face ID touch ID it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► like ready to go instantly immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► none of this whole like let me wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► and do whatever I'm doing and put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► beach ball there's no place to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► beach planner but like if an iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► does that it seems broken and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► it made more sense like well iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► you can only run one application at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► time and they're highly optimized but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► this point iOS devices have faster CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► than Mac's are doing our multitasking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► doing they're still RAM starved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► they're they're full-fledged machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► and it's just something something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► the remember when there was an effort a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► if this was a public marketing effort or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► just something that people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► behind closed doors or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► trying to make the Mac experience like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► the iOS experience like when you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► open it up and it's ready to go on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► wasn't it didn't Steve Jobs said at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► point like the MacBook Air is like no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► was base it was it was a story that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► gotten at Apple that apparently Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► there was a famous meeting where Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► walked in and dropped a macbook air on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► the table and draw it in the head like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► and I met an iPad and turned the iPad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► from sleep and just her comes on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► he's let's demand Piquet or like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► can't this do that something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► there you go yeah so who knows it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► really not but but anyway that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► endorsed that idea the iOS devices feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► so much better because there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► crap that is just unacceptable on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► device and on the Mac we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► suffering under the burden of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► this older behavior that did I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► laptop users just live with and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► think it's the price of using a laptop I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► don't like it well I mean you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► the the job that a laptop has to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► way more complicated like a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► like waking up from sleep delay as stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► like checking USB peripherals and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► know stuff like that that I hadn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► to worry about but a lot of it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► like stuff they could get rid of it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► if they really tried but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► Mac is not in a position where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► getting a lot of effort for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► part it seems I thought that Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► hibernated every time they went to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► they just kept the memory powered on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► until that until the battery had dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► something like that I thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► always wrote the contents of RAM to disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► every single time I don't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► again I've routinely disabled it um the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► laptops that are in my house just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► save the disk space but if that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► also benefit I'll look into it I'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► sure it's off on my work loan and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► how goes last bit of follow up dan leer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► writes in this is with regard to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► Thanksgiving list from last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► nobody's thankful for the switch I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► anyone's list despite how much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► you've talked about Zelda Mario Kart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► start a valley and playing with friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and family etc for me it was both an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► omission by accident and somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► deliberately I still do use my switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► from time to time I still well so some I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► think John put this in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► and he cut the key piece that which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► I believe Dan had said basically is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► because it was a fad or because you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► don't or you just didn't think of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► for me it's kind of both right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► didn't think of it at the time but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► if I had I don't know that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► said it because I don't use my switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► near as much as I did when I first got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► it and I do still like it and I'm glad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► spent the money on it but it's very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► I find myself picking that up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► evenings but I've also been just super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► super busy for quite a long time now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► you know when my my family gets together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► like well really Aaron's family a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► of my in-laws have have switches and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► we've been you know generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► bringing them with us when we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► family function and we'll play like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► couple rounds of Mario Kart or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► like that so I am thankful for it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► definitely like it but that is what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► the top for etiquette that's my number 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► or tied for number 4 or is this my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► my seventh place tie for number one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► only your 17 honorable mentions that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► what it is yeah it's one of my 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► honorable mentions that's right but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► about the two of you guys I mean for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► I I should have put the switch on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► list and I I simply forgot about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► while making that list which is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► because I played it like an hour before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► and played it again the next day so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► the switch has been fantastic for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► you know as the audience knows I am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► much of a gamer at all most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► game a year maybe I'll be into it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► like a week or two and I'll stop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► and because TIFF my wife is a gamer she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► we we usually have all or some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► current generation game consoles in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► house ready to go and I just I hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► ever touch them because I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► care that much the switch has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► that it's really good and I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► know this isn't about a console this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► about the games and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► Nintendo was in such a bad place with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► the Wii U they were in such a rush to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► get this out that they didn't have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► to mess it up with getting too far up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► their own butts about what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► gonna do about some gimmicky hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► thing they just made really great games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► for a really convenient system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► there's no other gimmicks about it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► particular like you know TIFF and Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► I really enjoyed Mario Kart and Sonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► we all have been really enjoying stardew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► valley it and there's and there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► many more games like i i've bought games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► on if i haven't even run yet just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► because I heard they were so great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► bought them thinking I play them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► haven't even had times I haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► too busy playing all the other great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► games like there's a surplus of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► games for it that we haven't even had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► chance to play hull of yet that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► many of the great games there are and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► to have all this in a you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► mid-priced system that's very practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► to have in your life because it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► both portable and stationary although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► honestly I don't like the portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► version of because the screen is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► small and and the controllers are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► skinny in and they give my own problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► with the portable thing you don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► yeah and the input devices surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► marca the jokes right themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► also I honestly had an HDMI port I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► but plainly just playing it as a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► console for me like it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► great it's such a great system with such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► great games the switch I am happier with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► the switch then any video game or video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► at least in the last decade did you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► your Sega consoles more um yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► those were more than you know at my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► to say a console my Genesis but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► a long time ago when Genesis was current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► which was in like 1993 totally no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► not trying to mess with you I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► you know to the best that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► remember how you felt when you were 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► do you feel like the Genesis provided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► you more joy than the switch does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► obviously that's a tough question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► because you're a very different person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► now but if you had to choose only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► you know in in in their current time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► I'm not asking you to choose the Genesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► over the switch today you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► would what do you think you would do I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► need another year with the switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► really know it's a little too early so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► far I think they're probably pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► close to each other and in that way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► it's just so damn good and and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► like I've had an xbox like the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► I was in say an Xbox one but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► something else now so I had the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► Xbox which I got pre modded with a mod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► chip so I could like rib games onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► hard drive and install XBMC which is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► Plex that's kind of where it all started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► and so like you know so I had that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► a Wii the first we not the stupid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► sorry Joan I had the ps3 and four and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► 360 and I had a lot of fun with some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► those but none of them were as good as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► switch just you know game library wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► so I'm very I'm very much enjoying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► and anybody who used to have fun with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► games but it's maybe fallen out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► like I did give the switch a try it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► really fun John I totally forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► the switch but if I had remembered it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► wouldn't have listed the switch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► actually for a lot of the same reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► Marko mentioned because I'd never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► it in portable what if I can help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► because it's not ergonomically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► doesn't fit me organ Amma Klee I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► take the little joy cones off of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► just leave it on there I only use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► pro controller with it I only hook up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and in that you know in that way as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► console I don't think it's a like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► not it's not my favorite I wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► listed it as a thing that I'm thankful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► for because I think the pro controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► good as the GameCube controller or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► not even as good as the Wii U pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► controller and the fact that it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► weird portable thing that I have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► into a dock and hook up to my TV and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► just doesn't you know it's compromised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► by the fact that it needs to be portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► I wish it was more powerful blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► all my complaints typically intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► consoles so if I listed something what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► specifically I would it was Elda which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► for me is head and shoulders like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► other games it great like I love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► but Zelda is the most important Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► franchise for me and this was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► significant Zelda game breaking with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► past and lots of very interesting ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► and I just thought it was an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► game probably still not my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► Zelda blog people ask me that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► as much as I love it and you know does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► so many things so much better than every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► other Zelda has ever done them it falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► down in a couple areas but that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► would elicit I will elicit breath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► world as the thing that I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► been thinking more I just they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► slipped my mind it's funny to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► you guys are lamenting the portability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► of it because holy smokes like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► the almost all of the fun I've had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► the switch is because I've been in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► sort of group setting like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► most fun times I've had with the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► has been the handful times that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► played Mario Kart together at work we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► all got to gather around like at a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► tables or something and and sit there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► play Mario Kart against each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► it's like you know all the all the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► parts about a LAN party back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► where you can shout and yell at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► friends and you know in in in call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► terrible names and whatnot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► they're sitting right next to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► you can do all of that without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► in here I'm telling you how old I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► without having to log like a 50 pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► CRT no so so I'm not trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you're wrong I'm really honestly not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► just saying I'm surprised that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► don't really favor the portability at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► all because that is like I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► about my family and and and certainly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► work from time to time daddy and even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► WDC I organized on beacon I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► I organized like a little get-together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► for playing Mario Kart and to me those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► are such fun times and they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► define the switch to me in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► no other console I've had has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► worked and everyone's allowed their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► experience I'm just super surprised I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► mean I would love the portability to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► to work out better and more often for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► and I think ease maybe like I'll take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► to like you know if I know would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► sitting in a doctor's office waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► room for a little while like I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► it sometimes but it's just like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► the joy cons is just very uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► for me there there clearly made for much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► smaller hand with it so it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► made for like children and teenagers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► be able to comfortably use and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► can't like it hurts my hands to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► for more than a few minutes and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► like because I'm also accustomed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► playing on a giant nice OLED TV with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► like you know speakers and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► sitting on the couch with the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► controller the portable experience is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► like the screen is noticeably crappy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► you know I don't get my wonderful oled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► black levels it's it's a very very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► screen for old people like me and John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► and people with broken eyes like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► like it is a it's a really small screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► compared to it most modern TVs and so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► me like it just doesn't it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► as well in portable mode and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► I'm probably the only person in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► world like and normally mint endows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► portable consoles they eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► like you know mini version they're new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► versions I'm the only person I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► the world wanting the switch XL to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► actually basically get really fat like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► want like I want to switch that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► basically has controller wings that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► controller and and the whole thing gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► bigger to accommodate a screen closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► maybe an iPad Mini size like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► I would like I don't think they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► to make that because no one else wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► that except me and maybe John but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► ultimately the the portability it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► it's too small to be comfortable for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► I don't want it to be thicker I want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► to be a Gamecube to be a non portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► console without a screen on it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► like four times as powerful but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► that's not what people want the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► appeal the switch to be clear for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► people is exactly what you said Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► hey it's the same game portable and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► your TV and it works great in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► places that is the main appeal but Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► and I just happened to be oddballs both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► in the camp where we want to play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► that's that and we're happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► they're like it's not like I have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► you know my complaint is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► powerful enough and it's compromised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► that but I'm you know I enjoy the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► like breath of the wild was an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► game especially given the power of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► console we are sponsored this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► ero finally Wi-Fi that works go to ero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► calm and use promo code ATP at checkout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► to make overnight shipping free to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► US and Canada Wi-Fi has always had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► problems for most people one it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► reach your whole house there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2698">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► like weak zones or dead zones or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► doesn't reach the back room and two it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► usually really hard to set up especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► for non-technical people euro solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► both of these problems so number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► they know as we do that no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► many antennas you stick on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► it's never gonna cover your entire house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► perfectly you need multiple access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► points needs to be broadcasting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► signal from multiple different little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► boxes around your house not just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► somewhere like in the basement or in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► Eero solves that problem perfectly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► having multiple radios so they have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► different models they have the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► ero base station and this is now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► second-generation one it has a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► faster radio much faster throughput and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► they also now have these little beacons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► that you can plug in at different points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► around the house to help broadcast more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Wi-Fi signal that beacons are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► little flush things they sit flush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► against the wall just in an outlet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► looks kind of like a big nightlight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► in fact they even built in a nightlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► just to help you have make it look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► little more useful and you can plug them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► in anywhere everything is now faster or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► longer range better performance so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► solve the coverage problem better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► anything else I've seen and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► also solve the ease-of-use problem also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► better than anything else I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► this is one area you know if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► nerd and you've used multiple access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► point Wi-Fi systems before like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► Eero is to set up it is really quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► something else to see and it's so easy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► can easily recommend it to any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► non-technical friends or family you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► might have if you if you need to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► check out euro you will be shocked how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► easy it is and the performance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► second-generation hardware the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► beacons are small discreet and very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► flexible you can put them pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► anywhere and they have the nightlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► built in check it out today go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► eurocom as eer Oh calm and use Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► overnight shipping to the US and Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► thank you so much to ero for sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► our show we should move on to ask ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► and conveniently we have a switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► related question star susumi writes have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► you guys played Super Mario artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Odyssey how do you think about it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► what do you think of it and I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► in that's a no small part because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► haven't really touched my switch very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► but let's start with Marco Marco have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► you played Super Mario Odyssey not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► I'm still spending all my switch time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► when starting a valley and behind that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► also have like the the Mario Rabbids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► game and I still have to finish the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► few zones of Sonic mania and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► so many games I can't keep up but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► also I'm a little bit concerned that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► might not like Mario Odyssey because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► people are saying it's almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► cross between Mario 64 and Zelda that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► not true ok because I I didn't I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► liked the way the Mario series went 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► very much like it was really cool at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► time like before mario 64 but like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► always like the 2d ones a lot better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► Zelda's not really my kind of game like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► the kind of you know big adventure RPG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► kind of thing so John should I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► playing Mario Odyssey if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► 3d marios super ioz is a 3d Mario I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► 3d Mario so I like Super Mario de si and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► in the pantheon of 3d marios know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► I'd put it like I really like galaxy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► well galaxy was very different and had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► think more of a twist on the typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► Mario formula even if it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► constrained but I like being on little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► planets and doing stuff and mera I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► is a little bit more of return to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► conventions of well it's just regular 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► Mario with a little bit more open world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► but Super Mario sea is so unashamedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► wacky in some ways I feel like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► it's sillier than I want it to be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► take matters more seriously than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► highlighted to me exactly how much how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► much more I like some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► franchises like Zelda is my number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► and I think even Metroid has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► elevated to potentially the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► franchise that I'm more excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► but as far as Mario games go if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► 3d Mario games you like this for marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► maybe something that will keep him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► have tons of nostalgic pandering to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► people who are fans of 2d Mario but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► don't if you really don't like 3d Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► I'm not sure that'll be enough to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► you interesting but I would say just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► like I was like play it like and let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► know let Adam play it and just watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► like it's it's just such a fun game it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► it's so unashamed to say there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► rhyme or reason why this is here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► just because it's fun and there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► of fun things to do and explore and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► with and you can kind of go at your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► pace and it's very very gentle and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► not particularly punishing except for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► couple of checkpoints that are a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► farther back than I would want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► be so I say you should definitely get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► because I think your family as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► have fun with it whether you will spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► more than a little time with it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► MZ writes do you use robotic vacuum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► cleaners if yes what brands in UK use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► cases work for you and if not why I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► never owned a Roomba or anything like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► I would guess that if I were to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► I would get a Roomba because marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► it I've never used one and have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► experience with rumbas here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► but not a lot of experience and and none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► of it that was so compelling that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► thought I must have one of these I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► you know meaningfully since then but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► limitations they had back then were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► basically like you know they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► they would they wouldn't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► everywhere they wouldn't really be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► to go on all surfaces and rugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► everything they would occasionally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► stuck and complain and some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► happy song I know at least the newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► ones will like go back to their base and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► charge themselves which is nice but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► just seems like a lot of trouble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► noise and expense and hassle and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► more electronic thing to manage to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► a problem partway and and it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► you still have to vacuum if it can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► the whole house effectively so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► it maybe these things are better than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► remember them or maybe they've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► better but my limited experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► them is not compelling I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► one and I've never thought about buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► one just because it just doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► like it can do the job I mean you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► see how big their I'd like these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► pucks I've got more crap in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► than fits in there I see how much is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► clear the clear bagless container of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► thing when I actually vacuum you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► the entire first floor of the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► that's not gonna fit in there rumba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► rumba can't empty itself and so yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► just seems like it may it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► fun novelty and if you have them just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► sort of let you go longer between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► actually vacuuming I can see that or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► you have a house where you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► pets that are going to attack it and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► feel attacked by it which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► factor and having an autonomous thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► wandering around your house but nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► never tried I put this question there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► just because I thought maybe Marco might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► have it now that he's got all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► little like a light switch clappers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► all his other home automation stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► I guess clapper still yeah you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► resisting the robot invasion of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► homes all right and finally this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► marco eric new rights what fraction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► total audio gets cut by marco for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► finished podcast so i will say to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► you up marco that we record at about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► nine o'clock in the evening our time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► typically and between 11:45 and midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► and and we are recording pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► that entire time now that may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► be us acting like we're recording if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► that makes any sense like we may be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► of a little more casual and not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► expect some of that to go in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► but you know I give Marco an mp3 each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► and every week that's roughly two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► half to three hours long and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► the released episodes are anywhere from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► an hour and a half to like two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► usually yeah it's more like than 1:45 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► 2:15 yeah but that's the simple answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► so Marco what's the real answer I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► it's you know basically if you figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► out from what you said like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► do usually record for about two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► half hours the finished episode has six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► minutes of ads plus the theme song which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► is about a minute long so you figure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► have about seven minutes of added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► content that isn't part of the live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► recording and a two and a half hour show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► so that's about two hours and 37 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► of total content before cutting and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the show is about you know 1:45 to 2:15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► so you figure I'm cutting you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► 20 minutes now that's not like an even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► 20 or 30 minutes to throughout the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► that I'm cutting it's mostly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► cutting the first like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► minutes of the call where we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► hey John here you know his Casey here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► what do you know setting up like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► crap that nobody ever wants to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► about and then after we have decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► we're done recording we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► oh let's pick some titles and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► tell the live listeners oh oh next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► we're gonna you know we're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► recording on Tuesday and said Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► so like you know bookkeeping at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► of the show or just kind of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► know kind of like casual talking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► end but it's not good enough to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► the show that's what most of the cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► actually is is the beginning and the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► and don't worry you're not missing much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► interesting it's you know the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► version of the show contains almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► everything that we actually say that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► actually part of the the show as we hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► it live know almost everything that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► the shows in the show is what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► trying to say yeah and if it's a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► where John talks a lot a lot less is cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► if it's a show where I talk a lot a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► more is cut man you can always fix it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► post right and I do moving on so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► a little bit of a kerfuffle earlier this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► week we're recording this on Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► evening and and there has just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► released a patch for a rather unique bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► that has sprung up in High Sierra and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► understanding is if you go into system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► preferences and I think into security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► and then you click the lock and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► enter and then enter the username root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► and an empty password and try that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► you know you might have to do this dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► a little bit but eventually you will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► to the point that suddenly you have set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► the root password on that High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► installed for Macintosh and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► problem because if you're not familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► root is basically the god account on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► UNIX based system and so if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► finagle root access to a computer then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► Mac I should say then you basically can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► do anything you want and this is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► of an issue and there are a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► you know I think most people have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► little bit of a problem with the way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► which it was publicized which was via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► I believe responsible but we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► what happened before then maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► responsibly disclosed somebody then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► eventually had discovered that about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► two weeks ago this was posted in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► own developer forums which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► amusing and Patrick Warhol has done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► deep dive into why they think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► happened but that's kind of the setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► John I presume you particularly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► many thoughts on this so do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► kind of fill in some of the blanks here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► by the time you hear this this will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► all been solved for everybody because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► was about like a day day and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► publicized on Twitter and when Apple put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► out the fix for it and not only his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► Apple put out the fix like if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► high sierra and you go to software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► update you can get to fix but they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► start they say starting later today in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► their message which means they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► already have done this they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► forcibly push this fix out to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► running high sierra like you won't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► to run software update you won't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► check for updates you won't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► click a button it will just go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► you don't need to reboot either will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► just go out onto your computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► that's the mechanism apple's used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► couple times in the past i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► only one that i could remember and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► think when the dates no if you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► as well is the NTP bug but they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► time server thing they also pushed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► but they have it's I'm assuming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► either the same exact or very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► the mechanism they have for pushing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► updates to malware which they also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► without you having to do anything behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► the scenes without any other updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► like they will push the malware updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► and I have no idea when those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► happening because who would know I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► you could just if the malware definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► file and see when it changes but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► if you're listening to this now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► you're using a Mac with High Sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► you're connected to the network this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► problem should be solved for you unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► of course the fix causes problems which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► for some people it has apparently it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► possible for the fix itself which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► rolled out in a day to cause problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► with doing file sharing and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► fix for the fix which Apple also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► tech note for that you can run some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► other command and that will fix their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► fix which is why usually fixes don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► come out 24 hours after a problem was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► the root cause stuff is interesting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► difficult the the the thing that Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► Ward wrote wrote up because he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► have the source code to all parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► disassembling it which is a heroic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► effort you know disassemble often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► without any symbols to try to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► what Beck is going on that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► updated that's right I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► anyway what it looked like when I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► this post earlier today was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► the programmer making a classic mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► of getting confused about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► return value means from a function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► there's multiple schools of thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► multiple cultures on what return values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► mean in terms of what indicates success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► or failure the sort of UNIX system call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► kind of way is zero indicate success in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► anything it's not zero indicate some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► form of failure but they're also Hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► there's wasup all their api's in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► domains where a true value or one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► some boolean or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► to get success and a false value or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► zero or undefined or whatever means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► failure and those out those conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► the opposite of each other and it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► very easy when you're programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► confused about which is which especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► if you're in some kind of domain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► your own code that you wrote where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► you're not sure what convention it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► following or whatever and if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► that return value wrong then you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► proceed as if something has failed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► it succeeded or vice versa and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► read the the root cause it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► it's a it's a series of things that stem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► from that where you know max come by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► default with the root account disabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► and this thing accidentally enables it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► and it enables it and sets the password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► to whatever you wrote in a text box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► which is an empty string and then from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► that point on if you try to log in again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► with the empty string it succeeds the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► second time because the first time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► enabled both enabled the account is set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► at empty string it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► typical with these type of bugs lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► things have to go wrong for it to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► fall down but I'm assuming the fix was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► fairly straightforward but apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► not because it worked everyone's file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► sharing who knows maybe it had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► with applying effects without restarting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► which is not something that normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► happens with security updates or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► it does I don't know I don't keep track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► of like when you get a security update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► and a software update does it require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► restart all the time not all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► yeah maybe not for all them I guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► depends on what it's patching if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► just kill a patch a demon and then kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► in itself anyway this is a bad one this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► is pretty much as bad as a local exploit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► can get and it was it was a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► exploit that was remote a bowl because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► if you have screen sharing enabled like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► the local exploit suddenly becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► remote because the exploit itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► that it allows you to log in as root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► with no password if the root account is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► disabled I also believe that the fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► they push out disables the root account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► again and maybe they had to do that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► because they're afraid everyone enabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► it it do is you know by the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► workaround for this was oh and abled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► root count and actually settle a jetpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► which is why I thought I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► invulnerable not the least of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► because I'm running elcapitan but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► I always I always enabled the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► account on all my Macs and I always set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► a password on it you know because I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► the root account to do a unity stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► even though max ship with the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► account disabled one of the first things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► that do is enable it and set a password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► and do all that stuff so I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► didn't have to worry about but actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► checks my wife's computer and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► whatever reason I guess it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► when we got it as a new computer I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► did any of the unity stuff over on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► she did have the really can't disable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► Dom anyway this update the fix will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► reduce able the root account so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► don't want through it he can't disable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► to re-enable it set a strong password on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► it and you'll be back so yeah this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► and because this is a fairly terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► error and a one day 24 hour turnaround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► time of the fix and also some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► things lots of people are attaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► various levels significance to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► there's a lot of threads going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► revisiting you know apples quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► control as is it going downhill this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► never would happen if Steve was alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► I guess we can talk about that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► bit but the one thing that's brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► mind immediately and I didn't spend much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► remembering it but almost this exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► same bug was on the Mac back in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► when Steve was running the show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► believe it was like on the lockscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► like on your laptop or your desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► where you get the screen lock and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► enter your password to unlock the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► and all you needed to do was type a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► whole bunch of characters in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► password field until it like overflowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► some buffer and cause the screensaver to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► hold down I think you could even hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► down the return key and it would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► do the same thing I forget I may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► misremembering maybe people can tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► if I'm mr. Mario but um that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► with security it doesn't you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► doesn't matter how silly the mistake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► silly the programming mistake is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► if it's in just the wrong place it your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► whole security edifice falls down so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► actually don't think this security error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► is indicative of any larger problem it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► is just one more like this specific one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► I think it is just one more pebble on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► the pile and what we should be doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► counting the pebbles not saying this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► pebble because there's one pebble exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► it means therefore this is the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► biggest problem the real problem is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► many pebble or is are there and is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► pile getting smaller or bigger over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► that's what people need to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3778">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► and I suppose this pebble is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► bit bigger than normal but it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► fixed much quicker than normal and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► kind of understandable I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► anyway the question that most piqued my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► interest that I saw come up about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► forget if it was in a slack or untoward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► or whatever but I want to ask you to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► what you think is someone was asking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► this a fireable offense and if so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► should be fired I don't I mean if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► put there intentionally sure yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► like you know is the NSA paid some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► Engineer to go inject a weakness sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► but that was probably not what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► here like this the nature of this bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► from some little we know about it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► mostly thing that disassembly the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► doesn't seem like it's that kind of bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► this unless it was intentionally done I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► would say no this is not a fireable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► offense it you know this is software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► people make mistakes all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► this really honestly could have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► single line of code mistake and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► that's all it was then it's just part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► doing the job and and for the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► John I'm with you like you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► look at me to amplify a lot of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► regs these days because I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► sometimes but I don't think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► alone you know in isolation I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► freaked out about this like yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► bad security bug it got fixed that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► what's supposed to happen any OS even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► i OS raffle puts all their resources you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► know any OS has occasional security bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► of this magnitude and if if it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► properly cared for they get fixed simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► that's the nature of very very complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► modern software you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► problems as long as they get fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► everything's working you know as as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► so this particular bug I don't think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► a sign of anything big I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► handled as well as it could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► handled although it is a little worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► how long ago people are talking about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► the forums and nobody seemed to notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► but you know it security bugs like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► like who knows if the right people saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► that either like people report random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► behavior on forums all the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► people also report so much garbage on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► forums that nobody can keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► everything that's posted and who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► like if somebody is describing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► like on the forums like if you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► post that we're allegedly describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► this problem like if you're some Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► employee who's just skimming through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► these posts like you don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► conditions were on that person's machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► like maybe something weird was going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► with their software and some other wit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► necessarily so like it's hard to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► when you're just skimming through forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► posts what's what people are she talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► about and if this is a real issue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► you need to worry about if it's your bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► or if it's just like some weird thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► that they did or that they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► recalling badly or describing badly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► you know so like I don't see anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► about this bug that is caused for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► massive concern on any kind of real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► scale I see lots of other ways for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► concern for Apple but but this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► one of those things and to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► the actual question you asked once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► to summarize know this would not be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► long as it was done unintentionally this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► is not a fireable offense this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► developing software yeah yeah I agree I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► don't think this is fireable unless it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► was a deliberate backdoor and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► think that it was and there's I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► some people that are really up in arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► about the fact that on Apple's own dev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► forums this was reported and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► noticed not you know I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► cracking wise about it earlier but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► reality the situation is like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► radar so as much as I also crack wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► a tidal wave of new information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► Apple as a company needs to sort through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► and if you look at radar which has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► fairly high in my opinion cost of entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► in terms of like who's really gonna file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► a radar not any normal Schmo it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► be a super nerd developer who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► is silly enough to spend the time doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► it so you think about this insert just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► insurmountable wave of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► which is Apple's internal bug well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► internal / external bug reporting tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and then amplify that like by several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► orders of magnitude and that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► forum so there is no way that anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► well I can't imagine anyone's cruising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► the forums looking for reports of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► security vulnerabilities like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► just not a thing so as much as I joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► about how it was reported on Apple's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► forums and they should have noticed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► no they shouldn't have and and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► turned around to fix as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► possible I wish they Qaid the fix a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► little better because up until a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► minutes ago and one of you mentioned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► I didn't even realize the fix needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► fix but you know they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► right by everyone and trying to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► right as quickly as possible and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► to my eyes and maybe it's easy for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► say this because I'm hugely biased as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► developer but I feel like yes the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► cause of this was a developer making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► oops but this to me is more I'm more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► alarmed by the QA process than I am the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► developer that made the UPS because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► seems like the sort of thing that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► like it should have been caught in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► Quality Assurance and clearly it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► and and that that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► scares me a little bit but somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► they hiss they made a statement to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► several outlets including I'm or and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► don't have it in front of me but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► basically said that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► provide a write-up of what happened is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► that right what do you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► talking about they said they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► do basically a post-mortem and and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► about it if I'm not mistaken I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► Apple statement in the notes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► doesn't say anything about that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► auditing our development process to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Oprah helped prevent this from happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► ever again I could have sworn they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► publicly but I guess not I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► just did that's probably the extent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► we were going to hear about it but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► like unless it was intentional sabotage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► I don't think the cause for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► going to be very interesting it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► yeah somebody messed up it could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► you know it you know like the goto fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► bug from a couple years back that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► most likely a random copy and paste or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► like you know a bad merge like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► maliciously put that there - you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► for NSA purposes that to make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► like an accidental bug that's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► but that's a lot less likely than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► somebody messed up because it's software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► people mess up all the time that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► you have to have systems in place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► able to update things and patch things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► because you know it's gonna happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► no matter how many tests Casey writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► for you it's still gonna be you're asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► about the firing thing just because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► was a sentiment that I saw a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► people discussing and it seemed to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► that a lot of discussions centered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► around people arguing about who should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► be far like oh the programmer made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► mistakes should be fired and no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► Quality Assurance you know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► neither one of those people shrimp hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► should be their manager no it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► Tim Cook like you know who is ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► responsible and how do we make people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► accountable and there was you know kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► of a test last trick question for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► two would you both got what I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► the right answer but B both write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► software so I think that's why but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► when people are angry about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► like you don't have to be particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► technically savvy or into the details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► computers or a program or anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► understand how bad this bug is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► cuz it's just it seems like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► bugs that if we saw it in a movie would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► be like that's ridiculous thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► that's so fake couldn't come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► better looking bug it's just comically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► you know just like just hit return a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► second time and now you're in it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► almost as bad as well like when Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► 98 would have a login password up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► screen you just hit cancel and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► appreciate it but the log yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► someone showed the old video of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► windows 95 one where you could hit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► question mark to get the help screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► eventually navigate your way to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► to the open save dialog box and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► open my computer at least that one was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► little bit complicated but yeah this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► is ridiculous but but for all situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► sabotage which is I think the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► reason anybody anywhere in Apple should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► I think intentional said based on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► I've seen at this specific bug of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► what it looks like from the disassembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► of the code it's not gross negligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► it's it's a you know a common it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► like a common mistake easy easy to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► even you know the QA people shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► fired you know Craig federighi shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► be fired no one should be fired for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► and the reason no one should fire for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► software is a realm where even the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► best practitioners make mistakes all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► time that is the nature of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► right which is often the source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► ridicule but if you're an actual program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► programming aside in any sort of group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► effort any environment where someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► would be fired for an honest mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► like this regardless of the impact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► not an environment that that it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► safe environment for people to grow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► improve their skills like you have it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► a it is a hostile organization you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► should never want to work for someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► that would fire you because you made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► honest mistake in a book like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► your fault and it's not like the Quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► Assurance people's fault now if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► a series of these errors eventually yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► executives should be fired or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► individual contributor in any part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► the organization who makes an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► mistake shouldn't be fired for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► honest mistake just because that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► happened to be in just the wrong place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► right that's not an environment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► that makes people feel safe to learn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► grow and it's the organization's job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► make sure people in roles that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► suited to their skills and that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► supported and that they're you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► they have the correct training and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► knowledge to get up to the next level to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► organization problems it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► individuals problem so in any group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► people if you're an environment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► you're like we're gonna be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► because if anybody makes any mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► they're gonna immediately be fired your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► team you will fire everyone on your team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► and you will only have the worst meanest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► employees who are only good at carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► not making mistakes and you will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► crap people so like I I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► entered anyone's mind an apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► someone was going to get fired over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► even in the worst moments of anger again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► unless it was sabotage unless it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► like this is the fifth one of these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► you know and you know and even then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► it was the fifth one like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► have rotated the person out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► position after the first or second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► leave them there so then maybe it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► some manager should get fired but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► is a this is not a long series of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► terrible security errors or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► like that so no I don't think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► should be fired for this um and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► skipped over the the Developer Forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► thing that's that's kind of a fun one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► because Apple's developer forms if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► don't hang out there if you don't hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► out there you might most likely hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► developer forums when you do Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► search for something and you find all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► the other poor souls posting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► developer forums of the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► understanding of the developer forums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► which may be outdated but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► still current is that it's a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► apples customers to go and talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► other about their stuff it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► Genius Bar on the web like it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► place where you go to ask Apple for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► although Apple people are sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► there and may sometimes be helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► that's not like a support channel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► you to get your thing fixed by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► it's for Apple's customers to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► each other so it's not like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► someone from Apple is not their job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► read every single post there and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► also means is that my impression is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► lot of the people who are posting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► computers as a hobby they just want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► damn computer to work and they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► going to Google and trying to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► can't my computer work where someplace I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► can talk about this and they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► landing at the Apple Developer forums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► they can go you can go there from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► Apple website find your way there or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► whatever like it's it's a venue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► people of all kinds to talk about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► computers it is not a super nerd hangout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► right which means that you get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► people with very basic problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► other people trying to help them who may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► not know all the intricate details and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► if I have to admit if I had read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► threat and saw someone suggesting here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► what you can do to figure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► someone was locked out of their computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► I've locked myself out of my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► how do I get in and fix it and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► you'd see a whole bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► suggesting things and like one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► would be like the correct solution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► like if you really have forgotten your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► password you can reset it in single user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► mode and blah blah blah but there'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► a bunch of other people suggesting other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► things and if I had read that thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► like oh just go here do this thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► the lock icon type root and hit return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► you've got right now I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► like it maybe it'd work for you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► you have some weird but like it just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► obviously someone who's confused and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► they're trying to be helpful but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► would honestly I wouldn't take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► seriously because there's so much crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► so many people other like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► they're not there just be nice people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► like here's something try this have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► tried that this worked for me once right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► and I if I had read that I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► in a million years have thought that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► actually legit like that will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► work I wouldn't even have tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► wouldn't even thought about trying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► and I bet if an Apple employee read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► they'd be like huh yeah I mean if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► that worked like you just I've rewritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► every turn with no password yeah nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► turns out in this one case that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► did work and that's terrifying slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► and the real scary thing is the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► who wrote that up a Gruber just posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► thing about it because the thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► continued from there saying where did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► you hear about this he's like oh I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► it in some other forum so who knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► long as exploit has been out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► whatever dark corners of the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► that people have known that you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► this in high sierra and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► because certainly weeks later but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► possibly even longer who knows they this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► has been there since the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► release of high sierra maybe it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► there since the beta's and people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► known about it only because it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► twitter publicity like a day or two ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► did apple rush to fix it and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► know i don't really blame apple for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► because like i said if i had read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► in the forums I wouldn't have believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► either it just sounds it just sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► ridiculous yeah and to you know to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► add to your your discrediting of needing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► to take forum seriously whenever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► search for a problem with my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► products or software I almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► come across a forum link or two to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► support forums and I don't think I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► come up with any better example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► worse ratio of usefulness to times I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► the page that is that is nonzero like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► is like the results are usually so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► useless and terrible because it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► you know random you know semi lost under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► informed people trying to help each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► other without any help from Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► like I think Yahoo Answers has a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► hit rate for me than Apple Support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► that's not fair I know it really loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► with Apple support from things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► here's what yeah here's what I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► samples of our arms one I find out if my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► problem is common because if there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► million repeated threads but the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► the same exact problem I am reassured in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► some way right they're like okay now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► know you know if I don't find any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► matches in the Apple Support Forums I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► like oh I probably have bad hardware or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► something like that right but if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► million people say that they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► problem that tells me something in - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► get to see the the weeks or months of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► people suggesting basically everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► under the Sun have you tried resetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► your period have you tried hopping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► one foot every solution that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► worked for any problem gets to let get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► suggested for all problems right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► people reply I tried that it didn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► me I tried that it didn't help me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► very often there is one it says I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► that and it finally worked and at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► that gives me it lets me eliminate stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► that I know won't work is oh I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► everyone keep trying this and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► not working and then if something does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► work for one person sometimes I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► backs off to figure out would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► solve the problem because obviously that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► thing didn't because someone be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► well I did that exact same thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► didn't solve it like it is super noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► but here's the thing that has over Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► Answers fewer trolls right and much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► specifically relevant to my needs so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► think there is the signal-to-noise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► not great but there is value to be had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► there know granted if you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► in the Apple Support Forums you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► probably desperate you're probably they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► have at the bottom of the barrel but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► thank all those people who spend all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► that time talking back do it for through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► tillage or try to solve problems because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► every once in a while just looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► the shape that they've traced around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► this problem of all the things they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► tried I can find my way to a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► so user Rachael broth in the chat said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► the problem you are experiencing doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► exist / that's the way it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► / here's a copy pasted solution that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► indicates I didn't read your problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► fantastic summary true that is true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► Apple people do occasionally post their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► you know well one more thing before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► leave this topic about like what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► could do to fix this like in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► grand scheme of things like any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► solution that said that takes the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► program better or let's be smarter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► let's write fewer bugs is not a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► right that's because you look at you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► a post-mortem in any sort of bug or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► it's like in the future we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► better programmers that one then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► won't make mistakes like this that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► a solution right so much to Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► chagrin oh the solution to all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► things involves process and testing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► quality assurance and and systems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► you can't have too many of those because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► then you've paralyzed your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► bureaucracy but you gotta have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► amount and bugs like this where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► not that I'm saying this is a gooey bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► but there's there is a the way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► exploited is through gooey even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► problem was actually in a library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► somewhere very often go through you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► don't get tested well because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► underlying libraries are tested to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► they do everything they want to put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► glue code that calls into the libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► and checks the return value that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► path may only be exercised by someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► using the GUI and writing good tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► that that automate the use of GUI there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► are tons of tools that do it but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► the hardest kind of testing to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► I'm sure Apple does a ton of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► they have to they have to do a ton of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► but if there's gonna be one area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► testing that is very difficult to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► comprehensive in and to keep up-to-date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► and to not even have a good concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► like coverage for its GUI testing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► that's you know it's it's not I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► saying they don't have to do it but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► what would a fix this problem if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► hadn't automated fuzz testing on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► exact sort of flow of like you hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► lock icon in any system preference and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► you try to get in if they had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► with fuzz testing that flow one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► things in the first test would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► rude empty password and hopefully the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► first test would have done that multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► times or something like that or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► other sort of like triggers on the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► path to make sure you're along the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► lines and to do preconditions in post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► vision root account is disabled flushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► s log in root account is still disabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► like there's so many tests you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► that would have caught this and again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► the post-mortem says I know exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► boyfriend this exact bug from ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► happening again that's that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► solve the problem either you got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► much deeper than that and just say how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► do we prevent problems of this kind from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► happening I would imagine that thee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► because the the functional surface area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► of the Mac operating system is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► incredibly vast if you were to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► percentage number on how many code paths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► are are executed as part of the surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► massive amount of automated testing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Apple does in the Mac operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► the percentage would be terrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► small especially when compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► incredible coverage numbers that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► who get to write like faceless libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► do you know like what is the coverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► chested look like on a small type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► well-maintained really important library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/4944">TS</a>]
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01:29:24 ◼ ► their decision they're gonna they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► going to meet the yearly schedule and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► their tool for meeting the yearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► schedule to adjust scope and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► they have been adjusting scope pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► things out of releases but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► there's always a temptation to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► things in releases that are just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► like do you think it's ready to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► released or do we have to boot it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► you have to make that decision months at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► and you have to kind of make a call and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► human nature is to say I think the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► can make it if they work really hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► it's you know I think it's gonna be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► so let's let's leave it let's leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► new wooden to server in like it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► crashes on a few GPUs and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► they'll have that worked out by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► it releases and it turns out they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► have worked up by the time that releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5398">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► and it's like maybe maybe we should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► kicked that out but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► you could say look if you keep kicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► it out like this like it'll never be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► ready to go that you feel like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► to do it and if you never updated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► you're gonna be in HFS+ situations so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► some point you have to actually ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► the only way to find all the real bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► is to put it out into the real world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► that's you know that's the nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► software and management that's the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► huh Apple has before it but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► that high sierra does not live up to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► billing as a Snow Leopard type release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► even though Snow Leopard had more bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► than people think it did their memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► are fuzzy on that but like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► live up to the memories of snow leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► type release where it is a refinement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► Sierra that just makes everything better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► and faster it was a refinement of Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► and we did make things better and faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► but the small number of things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► changed like they had some bugs of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► own and lots of long-standing bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► didn't get face tech that is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► could boils down to like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► thing a lot of people are pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► and all their complaints about bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► that's why I pointed the pile of pebbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► and the pile pebble is getting bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► you have to pay down your tech debt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► bug that Marco's been having for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► know two releases about his Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► randomly disconnecting I know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► pain in the ass to figure it out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► unreproducible and he's not filing bart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► reports but just you just gotta figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► that out if you don't it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► alongside the new bug that you added as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► part of whatever new feature you had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► the pile of pebbles gets bigger you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► out at least keep the pile of pebbles it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► like a manageable size we're not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► you have to drive it down to zero it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► software right you're never gonna drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► down to zero but if you allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► accumulate and that Polly gets bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► every lease people become disillusioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► right because there's always new bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► and your old ones never get fixed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► it's like why are you even really seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► new operates and that's when people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► let's go to every two years or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► so I think it is possible to do an every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► year release but if if it is easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► Apple to go to every two year release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► then they should do that I mean the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► I look at it is like you know imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► like on a smaller scale like I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► like me as a single developer imagine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► all year I didn't really touch overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► I was doing like a thing that was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► busy to work on overcast and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► summer I gave myself one week to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► and then I could release it fix bugs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► two days and then I wouldn't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► work on anymore until the next summer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► course the quality would go down of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► course I'd have to like rush to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► things in there and everything I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► wouldn't have time to fully bake it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► wouldn't have enough time afterwards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► fix bugs bug to just sit around forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► until the next year when I couldn't fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► the old bugs I'd have to make new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► features for the new marketing push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► that's I think a pretty good scale model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► how low as 10 feels I see excuse me Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► OS how Mac OS feels it feels like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► people are not able to are allowed to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► allocated to work on it most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► and what time they get on it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► limited to marketing features and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► not fixing bugs and and I think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► your pebble pile analogy is great and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► think it's pretty clear that we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► in the direction of accumulating more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► those pebbles over time not fewer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► the pile is just getting bigger over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► time and that that technical debt is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► being paid off at at a fast enough rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► the saddest part about this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► nobody is really asking for this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► Mac users don't need a new OS every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► we really don't like I'm still on Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► because hi Sierra so buggy I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► scared to switch to it I only have it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► the laptop but not my not my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► computer part of the reason is like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► why should I switch to it the sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► pitch for hi Sierra it seems to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► why should I upgrade exactly why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Apple fortunately look right down my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► throat with these notifications and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► everything like apples pushing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► really hard to force people to update - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► hi Sierra when it's still in a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► buggy state which is that alone shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► pretty bad judgment on Apple's part what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► like what's in it for me as a user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► not much the only thing I gain from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► is you know certain things work better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► when all your stuff is on the new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► features or iCloud syncing features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► airdrop you know calendar sync doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► actually work anymore for me thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► lot but for the most part the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► reason the main motivating reason I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► to upgrade to High Sierra right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► it's the newest OS and my other stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► starting to slowly break because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► computer is not on the newest OS that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► there's nothing about High Sierra that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► actually want because what it comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► half-baked incomplete features like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► loss of my lcd font smoothing thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► that might get fixed the next version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► but it might not as a Mac user all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► stuff there changing radically and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► all these costs we are paying and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► these big bugs and you know new sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► systems being rewritten in ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► almost as good as the old ones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► broken like I didn't ask for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► I do want Mac OS to move forward and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► want I really hope that the Mac OS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► still still has a roadmap ahead of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► but I don't want it to be done sloppily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► badly and rushed out I'd rather it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► done slowly and right and to have fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► awesome things in each release if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► even possible then to have it be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► half-assed and rushed and then have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► really buggy software come out every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► year and have my system break for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► months every year in the fall I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► the most attractive aspect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► the part that people probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► think about as much but what that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► mean is imagine like a high sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► didn't come out and we were still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► sierra right what that would mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► that Sierra porn releases would continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► for another year you know 10 12 6 10 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► 7 10 12 8 10 12 9 and all those point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► releases all those patch level releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► you know they're not replacing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► window server in one of those right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► there probably not changing the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► system but who the hell knows that it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► 10 2 or whatever on iOS right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► nature of those point releases tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► prevent Apple from doing any big changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► so what is everybody doing in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► releases you know what they're doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► all those point releases you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► that number gets bigger and bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► even goes into double digits as it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► in the past they're fixing little bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► that's all they're doing like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► security fixes and bug fixes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► bigger that number gets the this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► we all assume the more stable and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► mature the operating system gets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► kind of also makes the the big release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► harder like when I think it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► tiger or something it was like 10 for 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► or something when you get yeah someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► already said in that chat room when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► get up that high the challenge for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► 10 5 0 at least for the next major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► version release for the next like newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► named cat or a California Place release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► is so much higher because it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► have enjoyed this period of peace and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► stability like we've we're up in - we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► up into the double digits on the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► number and our versions and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► is good and like every little like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► team that is doing those point releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► you know and I don't even know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► separate team or whatever but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► people like they're running out of bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► to fix like they're knocking things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► they're like you know oh you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► some obscure problem with your Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► the entire team's going to spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► next two months just looking at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► problem because we have no other bugs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► fix right we're not on the glory team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► doing the next version and you hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► those are synchronized with what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► happening in the in the future or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► least but inevitably when the point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► comes out it's always less stable than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► the other one because that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► that has the big substance replace and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► replacements I love it which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► just want them to add more money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► time and developers and still do it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► way but if we did go to the two-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► I think we would have at least one year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► of peace and prosperity where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► those bugs are getting fixed and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► you know the point release has come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► and we just blindly install them knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► that it's just one more bug fixed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► one more performance improvement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► everything gets great and so I would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► could do with a run of double-digit at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► the end of the version numbers see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► that's like again because those are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► two-year schedule thing but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► lengthening of major releases has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► different choices even on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► cadence would be okay and I and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► think it's fair for us to conjecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► about what is or is not important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► Apple internally but certainly from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► perspective of an outsider like me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► seems like Apple doesn't value bug free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► software either the same way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► did or as much as any of us would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► them to and I feel like this is starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► to gain a little traction I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► I'm noticing friends and family rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► their eyes and saying oh well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► Apple you know and this is more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► just oh you know screw you autocorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► and this is more than just hating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► Siri which I'm becoming more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► interested in as time goes on is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► dumpster fire but be that as and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► even have an Alexa to compare to I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► just using Siri has been more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► frustrating over time but anyway I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► like like my family is starting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► frustrated with things that are problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► that are software problems that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► coming out of Apple and I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► perspective it appears as though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► institutional value is way heavier on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► new shiny and I think you guys are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► saying this is way heavier on new shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► stability and in the same ways you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► we said last week you know Jenkins is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► not sexy you know a bug free software to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► most developers especially younger ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► is not terribly sexy but to us old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► old bug free software or as close as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► can get of course is super sexy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► want a lot more of that in my life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► want to write it better and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► consume it and it just feels like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► hasn't cared about stability as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► they appeared to in the past now why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► that it could be any number of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► maybe it's that they're spread thin not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► necessarily in terms of people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► there's just a lot more going on and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► all of these OS it's like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► more stuff like take a silly example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► like handoff like handoff is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► where you can have a device nearby and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► your devices will talk to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► I think via iCloud and say and my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► will say oh I'm looking at such-and-such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► URL and then my Mac will say hey I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► your phone is physically nearby and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► looking at such-and-such URL would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► like to open that here like that in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► of itself does not seem that inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► complex and in many ways is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► useful but that's adding a complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► that none of us had the Apple us you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► know anyone a few years ago and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► know I just feel like as as the OSS have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► been getting more and more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► involved and more and more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► complex there has not there has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► appeared to have been a commensurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► interest in or increase in interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► stability and quality assurance and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► getting to the point that just a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► two ago I wish I remember what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► doing or what happened but I thought for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► a fleeting moment like I can't put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► with this anymore and I want to say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► was something on my phone and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► really really wish I remember what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► was in for a fleeting moment just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► second I thought I can't put up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► this anymore this shit never works let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► me tell you what you might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► thinking of because it's exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► last time I had this thought my wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► been unlocking her computer with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► series three watch because she's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► high sierra she's got a 5 K Mac she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► got a series three Apple watch and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► the watch unlock thing and she liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► until it stopped working and why did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► stop working beats the hell out of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► well me because that's that thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► so that feature was introduced a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► ago and it was tweaked for High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► complexity of the case he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► about it's a complicated thing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► multiple operating systems muscle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► devices multiple wireless radios and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► sorts of crap like I it is ferociously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► complicated a complication that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► existed in the old world well there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► like one computer there wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► networked right let alone you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► your watch and people walking around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► radios bouncing and trying to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► distances and an authentication system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► like so much opportunity for things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► go wrong right but it's a feature they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► chose to introduce and I can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► when they first put it out but if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► is gonna be a feature that you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► it you say you know that you we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► committed to keep working on it until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► works basically all the time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► otherwise why have the feature because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► features that don't work all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► people give up mine like you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► whatever feature you were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► think of you just like I give up like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► is not that you know they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► difficult to debug you're not sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► to do you don't know why it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► working and at a certain point you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► like well just forget it then because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► it doesn't work all the time I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► want to be sitting there and wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► why it's not working but it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► it gives you like the message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► watches it in range or try again or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► whatever it's like I'm sitting right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► here like I always do what's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► maybe I reboot both things and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► no I'm not gonna reboot I'm doing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► I don't want to reboot the computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► don't want to reboot my watch I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► want to sign out of my class and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► just give up on it that feature might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► it is either gonna work enough that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► is usable or it's not going to and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► bar is not met by a lot of things maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► Siri is one of those things for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► people like I talk to Siri sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► she knows me and doesn't give me answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► and so I just don't talk to her anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► or or I only have her set timers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► whatever do some sort of limited thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► and that's that's the kind of failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► you mentioned stability before I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► valuing like bug free software never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► that's kind of failure doesn't show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► in easy metrics I think Apple software I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► know I've mentioned this before is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► better about crashing and licking memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► than it has been in a long time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► those are easy things to measure but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► these other kind of bugs that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► kind of like frustrating nothing crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► no data loss but sometimes it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► a couple reasons and it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► abandon the feature that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► difficult for it to show up in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► metrics you know because Apple is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► obsessive as some other yeah as every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► iOS app is about tracking every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► thing that you do as a user like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► not tracking motion and regarding your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► screen or reporting it back to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► they are sending back crash reports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► stuff like that but and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► they'll ask you for sister reports for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► bug things but if people give up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► feature and don't abusing it Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► probably has limited reasons limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► knowledge of that or if they do not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► about it they don't know what the cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► is and I would love to tell Apple hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► Apple we're about to give up I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► trying to unlock her computer or their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► watch because it suddenly stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► working and I have no idea why and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► that's that's a failure that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► customer satellite before and for a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► or two it worked and it was cool but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► it doesn't oh well and back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► status quo but I think it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► massive failure to say look if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► gonna have that feature you gotta make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► it work all the time just like typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► your password and textbox works all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► the watch has to be like that too or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► just don't have that feature or have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► way to debug it or figure something out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► but that that's one of my major sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► of frustration coincidentally watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► unlock has been reasonably bulletproof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► for me but but I don't debate anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► you just said like if that happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► absolutely right as you were talking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► thought of a couple of examples of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► the first example I'm trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► out how much depth I want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► here the first example was I went for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► run on Thanksgiving morning and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► that in part because it was a day that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► would I would normally go for a run if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► recorded a tipi but beyond that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► the neat little badge that you get if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► you do 5k walk/run push etc and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► did my 5k run I never got my badge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► it turned out after talking to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► people some inside Apple some not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► turned out what had happened was I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► set my watch and phone to be localized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► to Australia and the reason I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► is because I want to be able to have day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► day / month month / year year like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► should be and still have everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► dollar for example now unfortunately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► get metric in a lot of places and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► Imperial which is weird because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► nevertheless I had my phone and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► understandably it makes sense that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► didn't get an American Thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► thing on on a phone and watch that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► set to Australia now I still disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► with it but I understand it like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► standing in America the thing has a - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► both of these devices have a friggin GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► on them they know where I'm standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► they know where I did that run I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► into my health app right now in C the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► route I took that run on so to me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► understand it nevertheless I finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► figure out okay that's why and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► set my devices to America because I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► it's getting great again can't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► but that's what I'm told and and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► and so I said it to America it stings I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► said it to America and the 2017 badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► shows up reasonably quickly but the 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► badge which I had also earned from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► and I learned that if you just wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► it should magically appear and guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► what happened and I just waited and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► friggin magic happen and it magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► appeared like iCloud is a thing why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► this not in iCloud like what why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► a thing the Apple watch is the Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► switch of Apple's devices like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► important data that people care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► like not actually real world important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► but like important to people kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► like you know you're saving Zelda right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► in the grand scheme of things it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► important like you're not gonna die from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► right but to people who have sunk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► know 100 hours into Zelda it is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► important so those stupid badges on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► Apple watch for your achievements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► the grand scheme of things nothing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► gonna happen to you agreed but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► are so angry if they go away and so how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► does Apple protect what is perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► most valuable pieces of information they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► store first being their actual data but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► the second most valuable one being their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► stupid achievement badges oh we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► gonna back that up oh yeah there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► million things you can do to lose all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► that information no no we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► about that at all same thing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► Nintendo switch like no you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► can't back up your data no we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► start in the cloud just if you and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► you switch ties yet you lose all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► saves it's such a dumb distinct like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► stems from just I mean Tendo was said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► excusable in Tendo has a history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► doing stupid things but Apple like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► don't think they understand exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► seriously people take those badges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► yeah and how how angry how unreasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► angry people are when they lose their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► badges that was me I spent half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► running it well ostensibly because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► want to get healthier but also because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► wanted that friggin badge yeah you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► credit dammit you worked hard for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► wanted my treat Mac's got his treat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► anyway the point is is that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► stupid thing just like John said and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► don't know maybe it is maybe those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► activities or achievements rather are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► synced via iCloud but why did it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► like 24 or 48 hours for that junk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► magically come from the cloud onto my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► device I don't I don't think it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► is think I think it I don't on device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► Nintendo they are getting better about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► Nintendo has actually said they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► working their way towards same cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► backups which it should have had from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► day one I think Apple will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► work on this but judging by how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► it's taken them to not deliver the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► iCloud message sync that they advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► for iOS 11 and again another source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► like not just people caring about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► baseline functionality people expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► that and all your devices you see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► your conversations that you've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► anywhere I thing that has never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► true about iMessage that they promise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► make it true your achievements your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► silly achievements on your Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► they should be as bulletproof as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► family photos they should be everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► you should be able to throw your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► into the ocean and get a new Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► put it on and all your achievements from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► all your past that watch it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► there to show that yes you had a 28 day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► streak of meeting your goals in 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► like why shouldn't it be it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► small amount of data and Apple should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► know how incredibly important it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► beyond all reason to the people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► them like that's the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► that's why they're giving them the shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► no well you know it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► free-to-play gaming like they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► exploiting human you know foibles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► make you exercise more and them being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► carefree with not like not preserving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► them with the same vigor that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► preserve your family photos just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► the disconnect like a misunderstanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► of how you like in one hand they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► how humans work so they're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► the system on the other hand they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► understand how important it is for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► to keep this stuff in sync yep yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► the other example I had and this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► one could very well be a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► on my shoulders but thinking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► developer it sure doesn't feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► is and the problem I'm having in and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► the only one I think that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► complaining about this so it's maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► is me but the problem I'm having is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► getting to the point that I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► am being incapable of typing on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► anymore I just can't do it successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► I cannot get a friggin sentence out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► my phone without having a thousand typos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► and it's driving me insane and half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► time it's autocorrect doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► increasingly bananas as time goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► which is why I think maybe it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► weirdo machine learning stuff but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► that's not going well yeah it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► not and I understand the thought process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► it makes sense it's a clever idea but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► don't think the execution is is is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► well at all but I again I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► it's just me maybe I just had fatter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► fingers than I've ever had despite all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► this wonderful running I'm doing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► I'm exercising my fingers as I'm running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► so they're getting fatter and fatter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► with muscle who knows whatever it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► feel like I cannot type on my phone any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► more without a billion typos and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► getting to the point that you know once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► we got SMS on the Mac which is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► example of something that made my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► genuinely once I could send not only AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► messages but SMS from my Mac it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► amazing and the reason it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► was because I could talk to my all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► in-laws none of whom have iPhones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► could talk to them and send them text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► messages from my Mac on a full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► and it was magic and it always worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► and to be honest to this day it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► almost always works so that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► example of a feature that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► very complex because the only thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► can send this SMS as far as I'm aware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► my phone and it's but it's very complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► but it works it's almost bulletproof so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► anyway it's gotten to the point with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► iPhone that if I have to type more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► like a one or two line text message I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► going searching for the nearest Mac so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► can type it with a physical keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► because I know at least then I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► able to do it without ripping my hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► out and I apologize if it's just me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► it's a very clear example of a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► I thought about throwing my phone out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► the window or I really first leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► moment thought to myself so how bad are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► those pixels these days anyway and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► that's that's a problem I'm a super fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► like part of my living is talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► how much I love Apple and I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► to myself oh god maybe I should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► maybe I should put this aside and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► know what the healthy thing to do would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► probably be for me to try pixel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► realize that I'm just being a big baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► and really really life is considerably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► worse on the other side unless but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► knows I know am I crazy on this like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► you feel the same way I do it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► you mentioned SMS on the Mac because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► have one person that I talk to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► don't doesn't have an iPhone that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► to send them SMS to and I always do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► from my phone because I could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► remember if you could do it from the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► and every time I went to go check I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► usually at work like when I had to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► SMS is this person every time I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► messages on my Mac at work and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► find it signed out and I would enter my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► correct password to sign in and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► just say nope sorry I couldn't sign you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► in sorry error failed couldn't sign into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► iMessage and the only fix to this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► me to restart my Mac once I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► reset my P Ram but then I realized it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► was probably just the restarting of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► did it that's how desperate I was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► but anyway this is another one those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► things have like hey design message work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► on your Mac yeah most of the time what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► messages in the messages application on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► my Mac at work back and forth to my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► you know it's nice to type on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► keyboard just like KC right boo Here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► messages but every time I think oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► should try a semester me or two and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► bring up messages and it just gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► little the thing pops up and says and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► wants me to sign in and has like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► skip this process anyway like I realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► I am permanently signed out again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► something having to do probably with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► Hardware IDs and VPNs and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► it's on Wi-Fi and even at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► when it's plugged into the dock and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► don't know I'm like all the sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► guessing about what could possibly cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► the iMessage to be confused but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► restart I log back in usually restarting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► fixes it and then I get a notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► and every single one of my devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► says you just signed in with your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► ID do I message on blah blah blah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► know that message you get like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► nun and all my devices which makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► thinks it is it has reprovision Danu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► private and public key for that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► computer that's the type of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► like you know messages it's a thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► there it works I'm not abandoning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► because the utility is still too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► but it bothers me that it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► reliable as a Monde ATM was for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► SMS relay is like its own dance that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► have to go through on each computer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► an iPad in whatever iOS device that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► want to do it on so like I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► wrote a post in late 2014 which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► link in the show notes as to the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► and dance you need to get through in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► order to turn this on and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► for SMS this is not I mean this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► answer that I could never get to pursue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► it was permanently always permantly sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► out of messages but it I'm good to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► that this is must have been what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► forgetting about this may be that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► actually does yeah that's a bummer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► should read my blog John it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► good I think I did I'm looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► thing and I remember I was looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► this right now and gagging actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► what do you say that I was just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► at it and going but it's before is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► thing that people don't appreciate it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► doing Mac OS reviews for so long that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► didn't have blurred out screenshots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► you know how hard that is it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► hard oh I don't doubt it it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► hard because personal information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► everywhere anyway but yeah but the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► I'm driving at is you know in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► these things like I forget how complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► they are and how reasonably bulletproof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► they are in SMS like this is happy KC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► right like SMS relay is an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► that it has to send my sms's to my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► because as far as I understand my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► is the only thing that can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► issue an SMS to my carrier and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► stuff works I use it all day every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► and it works great it is almost flawless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► but if I actually want to send an SMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► from the friggin device sending them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► if I want a phone to type a text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► on my iPhone it only gets through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► without typos maybe one time out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► three and it's driving me insane I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► know if you can blame the autocorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► can't type of letter I thing I know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► have had some wonky nice with it but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► a new size of the phone because it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► be but I feel like I what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► and again this is maybe all in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► but it feels like the way they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► accuracy checks on key presses either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► got less forgiving or or or I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► something happened like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► maybe even four versions of iOS ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► like around the time of the six and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► was like the 6s or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► where everything took a turn and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► a sudden I just could not type anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► and it's just been getting worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► worse and you would think like between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► the 6s and my seven it would get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► and yes I agree with you that when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► to the 10 maybe that would it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► a moment you know I would I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► to train myself a little bit and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► that that's some of it but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► just the way the way it detects like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► presses used even if I was wrong it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► understood what I was doing in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► 5s 6 era and now it's either less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► just change the way things work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► have not been able to retrain my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► I've been able to retrain my brain on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► the home button but I can't retrain my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► brain on the keyboard you need to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► to my mom and just start pressing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► microphone button and talking to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► phone transcription is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► that's the only way she types into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► things she talks to it in a very stilted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► artificial sounding voice matter well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► thanks to our three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7198">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► thanks to our three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7198">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► hover away and arrow and we will talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► it was accidental accidental research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► Casey wouldn't let him because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► accidental ey L is s so that's Casey Liz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► and a RC o AR M auntie Marco Arment SI r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7243">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► and episode 250 is fine oh look it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► what a great episode spectacular that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► was can we talk about anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► makes us happy yeah when I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► fired up about things then you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► bad yeah it's something is not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► yeah our aftershow is only one thing KC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► oh yeah that's a thing that turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► that I completed my video so if you uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► if you haven't watch it out I put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► I will put a link in the show notes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► released KC on cars episode 1 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► on the Alfa Romeo and the response has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► been exceedingly positive which I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► super thankful for however I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► I'm still only within my own audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► so but there was a comment that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► through let me I'll have to see if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7317">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► find it really really quickly but I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► not be able to but there was a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► that that somebody wrote in that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► clear to me that it was someone outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► of my audience and they were like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► BMW is a copy of an Alfa near already 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► years I think this person is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► native English speaker and your app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► you apple headphones just show how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► you know about quality ok you Apple cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► phone Oh air pods so basically because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► because I thought an Apple product much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► less air pods were sufficient for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► video obviously I don't know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► doing and like again obviously we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► talked to this to death we don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► get back into it like I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► foibles or many of the foibles of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► video but it if if you hadn't heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► talk this to death that is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► comment that an obnoxious youtuber would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► write and thus I think that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► individual may have come from outside my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► audience but everyone else even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► the pretty critical ones from I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:03 ◼ ► tell it was somebody who knew who I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7383">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► right it would say oh you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► really does have crappy audio and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► got to fix that but you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► like that that to me sounded like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► so anyway as we sit here tonight it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► over 10,000 views which is super good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► for several reasons one of which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► can start monetizing once your channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► kids 10,000 views which is excellent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► I am in automated review last I looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► anyway with YouTube so hopefully they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► will let me monetize soon and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► know if I'll ever make any real money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► off of this but it would be nice to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► more than 0 and we'll see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► once you click that monetization button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► you'll find out that there's a brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► clip of distant music copyrighted music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► in the background you'll immediately be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► the my machine and everyone's strike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► against your can and then you'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► the real YouTube experience which by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► way I have had I think I already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► one strike because nice copyright stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► nice yeah my channel is still under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► review as I write this but uh but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► so the response in is has been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► really really positive and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► really a really appreciative of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► and the general response has been oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► this wasn't near as bad as I expected in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► fact I think my code said that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► privately somewhere yeah I think I chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► more gentle words but yes that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► exactly I was expecting it to be way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► worse because it was your very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► video of this type and you you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► have a history of making videos like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► this and so like right I thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► really thinking it was gonna be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► more painful and it wasn't painful at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► all like there was some audio that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► bad but you know we knew but you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► warned us about that and and the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► like you know the bad audio like yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► does detract from those scenes but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► you still can watch them and enjoy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► you're saying like it doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► totally ruin it it just it's noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► but the video overall like it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► because you actually nailed the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► in the commentary no that's very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► you and that's what we're watching for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► you know like that's you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► had said in our last talk about this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► you know in our last aftershow you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► said like you know you you think you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► something here with the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► everything and I didn't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► whether that would come across in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► video because it takes a certain degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► of skill and sensibility of doing videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► to have what you're saying or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► you're trying to say come across but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► did you did it it worked and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► really good and like and you know as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► said to you I think privately and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► yeah there are some things that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► better about it but like for a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► video it's incredibly good like it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► better than I would have guessed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:37 ◼ ► way better than my first video was by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7537">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► mile and and yeah I think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► something here and you know whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► reaches other people or not or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► one Rando youtuber says something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► about it you you don't need to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► about that oh yeah what you need to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► about now is making this a thing you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► if that's what you want and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► like it you might decide it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► you that's too much work whatever I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► you don't because it turns out I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► you're good at this and I think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► be even better with more experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► if this is a thing you want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► doing I reiterate what I said last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:12 ◼ ► which is find a reason to keep doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7572">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► find other cars to review review your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► cars that you already you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► seven cars in your garage review your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:20 ◼ ► dad's cars go to cars and coffee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7580">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► talk about cars there and talk about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► you are excited to see certain ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► why they are interesting because anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► who's ever hung around you in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► knows that you are basically always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► hosting a car show no matter where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:36 ◼ ► are no matter what you're doing a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7596">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► who you're with you will point out a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:40 ◼ ► on the road oh that's one of those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7600">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► enthusiastic about it which is step one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► and then step two is you will explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► why that's interesting or what's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► about that car you have the ability if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► you want to record yourself on video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► talking about a car you can do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:55 ◼ ► lots of different ways and times in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7615">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► life for lots of different kinds of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7617">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► that are meant that have a pretty wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► diversity of what makes them interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► and and you don't have to do only new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► cars you don't have to do only high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► cars you don't have to do only you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► European sports cars like you can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► can you can review like they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► minivan that your friends might have or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► something you know you you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► review any car you come across any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► you might have access to for a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► you know whatever you need you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► that and I think you should and your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► right now is not to have this one video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► get tons of views and then eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► you know hundreds of cents of income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► the job of this video is a to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► starting making videos and B to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:50 ◼ ► your YouTube channel but it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7670">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► isn't meant to get big yet getting big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► takes time getting an audience takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7677">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► monetizing takes time newsflash you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► gonna make not much from this video oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah even if you get approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► for monetization tomorrow you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► has already had most of the views it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► likely to have because that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► YouTube works yep that's how most into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► the internet work and and and YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► rates you know it's funny like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:21 ◼ ► podcasters see the view counts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7701">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► YouTube videos we're just like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► we have to get on YouTube when youtubers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► hear about the CPM we charge for podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:33 ◼ ► ads they run to us oh my god we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7713">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► get a podcast because YouTube views are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► worth so little they do have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► them but they're worth nothing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► money-making venture for you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► for a long time if ever but your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► right now is to have a creative project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7734">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► money-making venture but you should only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► keep doing it if you enjoy the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► project part of it because that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► all it might ever be and if it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► money-making venture it's not gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► life-changing amount of money for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► time you know it might be like I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7752">TS</a>]
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02:09:17 ◼ ► you know I don't know what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:18 ◼ ► numbers you you you might expect but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7758">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► like you know to be like a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► amount of money to have a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► effect on your life and like whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► can go indie full time like you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► should and things like that is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► need to be making like thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► dollars a month from this yeah yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► unlikely for a while especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► you're going to only release one video a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► year I think I think like tens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► probably gonna start if you keep it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► and then if over time you build up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► bigger audience then you can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► talking about you know real money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► that's a long way into the future right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:56 ◼ ► now you need to focus on is this a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7796">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► you want to keep doing and if it is keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► doing it like start making more car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► videos and they don't have to be big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:06 ◼ ► productions like this they can be small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7806">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► ones they can it can literally be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► walking around cars and coffee which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► do like every weekend anyway like it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► literally be that and give like a 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:16 ◼ ► second overview or like a two-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7816">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► overview of one or two cars that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► there that are interesting and tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► why yeah yeah I totally hear you and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► my intention is to do Aaron's car next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► and I'm starting to like contemplate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► know what do I have to say about Aaron's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► fast-forward this section usually she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► has a almost brand new 2017 Volvo xc90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► which is a big slow well reasonably slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► SUV it's probably faster than John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► computer everything is I mean our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► are but anyway I think the idea is to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:53 ◼ ► do that next it first several reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7853">TS</a>]
02:10:56 ◼ ► one I have access to it too it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7856">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► a polar opposite of the Alpha Room of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► the Alfa Romeo and 3i I'm telling myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:06 ◼ ► I want to try to get that done by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7866">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► end of the year I don't think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► succeed but I'm going to try we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:14 ◼ ► have some other big things happening at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7874">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► the end of the year so that'll really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► throw a wrench in my news flash you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► getting nothing done by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► year I'm setting a goal of myself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► I'd like to spend the next week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► literally the storyboards because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► one of the regrets I have with the Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► Romeos I never spent enough time really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► thinking about until it was all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:33 ◼ ► really thinking about what I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7893">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► say so I just kind of filmed everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► and hoped I could make heads or tails of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7898">TS</a>]
02:11:40 ◼ ► it after the fact when obviously I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7900">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► I did an okay job but it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:44 ◼ ► better if it was more deliberate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7904">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► anyway I want to review Aaron's car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► and see what I can make of that and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► if I can make something interesting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:53 ◼ ► of that because you know an Alfa Romeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7913">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► is rare and interesting to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► and if I like drove up to you or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7917">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► underscore and borrowed a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► Model S that's interesting just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► it's a Tesla I'm hopeful that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► run-of-the-mill car and granted you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► a brand-new Volvo SUV is not strictly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► run-of-the-mill but compared to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► $80,000 Alfa Romeo it's considerably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► more run-of-the-mill right this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► is like me like you know going to borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► like a 75 D and like oh this this is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:28 ◼ ► the consumer level you know accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7948">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► car for everyone you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► you know your point is fair your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► is fair so anyway so we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► III hope to stick with it one of the I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► like to hear Jon's thoughts although I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► scared to oh I'd like to hear John slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► in just a moment but I thought it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► be interesting to note that a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► the things that I expected or that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► that I found most unexpected really were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7972">TS</a>]
02:12:56 ◼ ► that the little portions I put in of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7976">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► Declan and Aaron seemed to resonate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► almost more than anything else which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► not a bad thing it's a good thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:06 ◼ ► what occurred to me only because a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7986">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► ton of people said it to me was nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► else really pays attention to what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► families think or how these cars work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► for like regular stuff or anything other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► than one driver and I was just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► telling the story of this is what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► you know I put a car seat in it I drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► my family around in it and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► really think of it as like a formal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► statement about what they thought but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:34 ◼ ► seemed like a lot of people hung on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8014">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► the fact that I was talking about more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:38 ◼ ► than just you know me the meathead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8018">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► petrol head whatever that's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:43 ◼ ► know more power more power and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8023">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► thing that I thought was interesting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► part of the reason I put it on the lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► which it was actually in my dad's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:50 ◼ ► a part of reason I put it on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8030">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► lift was because that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► most car reviewers don't do like Savage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► geese does it generally speaking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8037">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► most car reviewers don't do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► since I have access to it I thought okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► I'll do that and I didn't get as much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► a response off of that as I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:08 ◼ ► which is fine and I was actually talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8048">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► talking to a friend about this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► friend had said you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► looking for content to cut the lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► might have been the first place to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► it's really nothing - that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► to see under the car and then you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► for you know a couple of minutes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► well all the stuff that's under the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► and so it's either you'll pick a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► and maybe you should have just cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► and and during the editing process I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► wasn't planning on talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► but something that just occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► I was trying real hard to get it closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► to ten minutes I landed it up at about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► 13 and a half and it started after my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:44 ◼ ► first cut at about 15 and change and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8084">TS</a>]
02:14:47 ◼ ► was able to get it down some I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8087">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► know if you knew this Marko but it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► out when people talk at 1x that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► really friggin slow I would like try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► make a point that I felt like was two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8098">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► sentences and I would look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► Final Cut Pro and if it looked like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► seconds of talking or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► that it was just insane how much time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► took for me to talk like I oh man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► so try to get a three page marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► brief into a two minute sponsor read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:16 ◼ ► yeah so it's it was weird in that sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8116">TS</a>]
02:15:20 ◼ ► but I've really enjoyed the process and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8120">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► and I do plan to do more of them and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► saying this publicly I know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► going to get this thing done by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► of the year and at that point we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► a new kid which means everything stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► for like six months but I'm hopeful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► I will be able to find the time since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► I'm gonna be taking some time off work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► when the when the new baby is asleep for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► you know 10 minutes at a time I hope to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► find the time to be able to put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► something about Aaron's car and that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:45 ◼ ► be a good next step III will throw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8145">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► one more thing here you mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► people commented and liked Aaron and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► declan's role in the video and that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8154">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► you put a car seat and I think first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► all like I don't watch YouTube for cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:01 ◼ ► but so I don't know if this is a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8161">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► thing but I have a feeling you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► probably the only reviewer who put a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:06 ◼ ► and you're it's the only one I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8166">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► that doesn't mean it's the only one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:10 ◼ ► it's the only one I've seen right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8170">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► and so secondly I - I mean and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► thought I was just a student this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► maybe because I know your family but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:17 ◼ ► thought like the part of Aaron Declan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8177">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► especially the look of displeasure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► Aaron gives you those I laughed my ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► off at those those humanize the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► because you need a human like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► one of the things that made Top Gear so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► you need a human element you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:39 ◼ ► talk about specs and just hear engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8199">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► noises and just you know show the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► over and over again people care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► other people that's what makes videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► interesting that's what makes podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► interesting like people will come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► the content but they will stay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8214">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► personalities and the humanity in it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► what builds and keeps an audience and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► that's that's not something you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► ever shy away from if anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► should try to figure out how to add more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:11 ◼ ► of that like part of the reason why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8231">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► writing of this video is so good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► because it was a lot about you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► humanity about your identity with cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► and the stick shift and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► like that was a bit that was a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► part of your theme in this video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► that's interesting because you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► person and people like other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► their stories and their emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► their personalities that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:34 ◼ ► element that you should have in all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8254">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► definitely not try to minimize or cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► out those segments if anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► should have more of those at least if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:46 ◼ ► well I was doing a real disservice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8266">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► Aaron because there were only a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:51 ◼ ► times I filmed with her in the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8271">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► the only thing that I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:54 ◼ ► particularly useful or interesting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8274">TS</a>]
02:17:56 ◼ ► this a kind of snarky comment from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8276">TS</a>]
02:17:59 ◼ ► and for anyone that's met her like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8279">TS</a>]
02:18:01 ◼ ► clear that that is not well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8281">TS</a>]
02:18:04 ◼ ► think anyway it's not her normal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8284">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► know she's not normally snarky she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► usually you know super super nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► super effusive and it was just so funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► to me because this was just like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► and so I just thought it was hysterical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:17 ◼ ► so I apologized publicly to Aaron for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8297">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► kind of not putting her best foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► forward but I thought the moment was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:23 ◼ ► worth it because it was so funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8303">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► yeah I I agree like I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► that playing the family hand which I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► doing just kind of because it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:33 ◼ ► it was going to play so well and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8313">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► know if possible I'll probably play it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► little harder further whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► analogy is I'm looking for the turn of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► phrase I'm looking for I'll probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► more of it next time but alright John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:45 ◼ ► lay it on me where did I go wrong I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8325">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► marketed his video I told him everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► with it and they never made another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► video so I don't know if I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:54 ◼ ► spoiler that's not why well anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8334">TS</a>]
02:18:58 ◼ ► could go on like that about yours but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8338">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► think like wait for the interest of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► like well one thing I think that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:03 ◼ ► I went wrong I'm just gonna give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8343">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► couple of highlights but I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:09 ◼ ► the because the the youtube comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8349">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► section is mostly was mostly populated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► by friends and people familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► show sure backgrounds and everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► think there was less terrible people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► there okay and and I think actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:22 ◼ ► these sort of the wisdom of crowds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8362">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► all the people kind of get they they hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► most of the the major things if you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► aggregate right so but anyway that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► particular order did you did you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► down the script for this at a time no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:40 ◼ ► said started like storyboarding and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8380">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► mean that literally I think I put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► like an Instagram story so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:45 ◼ ► nothing I can link to but I did draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8385">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► like little boxes and storyboarded it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:50 ◼ ► bit on like on one of the last days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8390">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► had the car but in retrospect I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:56 ◼ ► I were to do this again with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8396">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► borrowed car like this I think I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► need to take one or two days off of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► and spend one day like thinking about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► storyboarding what I want to film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► spend the next day actually executing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► it because what I did this time was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:15 ◼ ► like I said earlier basically just film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8415">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► everything I could and hope that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► you know piece something together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:19 ◼ ► afterwards and there were a few places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8419">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► where even though the the video as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► posted right now does have a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► story arc I had to like bring certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► pieces forward or back and make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► slightly awkward because the video I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:36 ◼ ► I I needed to use it to fit so as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8436">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► example I started talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► transmission if memory serves a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► earlier than I intended because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► the moment when I had gotten in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:48 ◼ ► and I knew enough to know that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8448">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► to have Jason camisa of Motor Trend shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► his car door in his video and then have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:58 ◼ ► transition back to my video but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8458">TS</a>]
02:21:03 ◼ ► when I wanted it to it ended up making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8463">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► the story arc a little bit awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:08 ◼ ► well I was gonna say about the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8468">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► specifically not so much about the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► which I'll get to in a second but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:14 ◼ ► script part as you noted like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► take a surprising amount of times to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► things right and so when you write for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► television or movies you can't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► naturalistically you have to compress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:25 ◼ ► meaning and compress everything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8485">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► because you don't have enough time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► people to speak the way they normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► speak unless you're making a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► genre of movie where that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► shtick is that people actually are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:38 ◼ ► naturalistic but it takes it takes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8498">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► so long you have to everyone has to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:42 ◼ ► everything that is essentially like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8502">TS</a>]
02:21:43 ◼ ► took what a normal person would say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8503">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► well-crafted sentence that conveys all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:52 ◼ ► of the plot points all the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8512">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► notes all of the foreshadowing and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:58 ◼ ► the nuance in this one line and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8518">TS</a>]
02:22:00 ◼ ► pain to write like that because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8520">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► not how we talk so I would suggest try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► maybe this won't work for your process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:08 ◼ ► but at least try to see if this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8528">TS</a>]
02:22:10 ◼ ► thing that works for you to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8530">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► script it ahead of time and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:13 ◼ ► script it you you can't even write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8533">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► like a blog post you have to write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► like a video what I'm getting is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:17 ◼ ► writing writing for video is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8537">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► than writing for your blog and it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:20 ◼ ► different than speaking and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8540">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► will let you get things tighter if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:23 ◼ ► want to use inspiration for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8543">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► whose process you probably are familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:26 ◼ ► with and listening to podcast just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8546">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► of gray and all the time he spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:28 ◼ ► wordsmithing his narrations for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8548">TS</a>]
02:22:31 ◼ ► videos and how tight they are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8551">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► he's just getting rid of needless words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:35 ◼ ► compressing the idea down finding a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8555">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► to get in and out and he does talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:38 ◼ ► quickly too second thing is as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8558">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► people pointed out in the comments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► know you are more enthusiastic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:44 ◼ ► cars than the person I see right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8564">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► enthusiastic on this podcast about cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:52 ◼ ► right so that's just you know being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8572">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► camera or whatever I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:56 ◼ ► solution is there have no idea how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8576">TS</a>]
02:22:57 ◼ ► it but that as a viewer that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8577">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► comes across and like Casey cares more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:01 ◼ ► about cars than this not that you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8581">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► nervous because you didn't you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► relaxed but like maybe too relaxed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► need to get worked up you need way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:12 ◼ ► footage which I know sounds terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8592">TS</a>]
02:23:14 ◼ ► because I'm watching this video I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8594">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► oh god this must have been so much work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► like how many I watch it and I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► how many hours you're putting into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► and yet what I think when I'm watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:22 ◼ ► it also is you need so much more footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8602">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► and you can tell that if you ever do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► like a graph out like just pick you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:28 ◼ ► go to go to you know a crappy Damario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8608">TS</a>]
02:23:31 ◼ ► video or a harrison video or any any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8611">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► video that your favorite thing is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► time they're talking about anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► never talk for more than three words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:42 ◼ ► before cutting to another angle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8622">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► car and it's not always like how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► show what I'm talking I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:46 ◼ ► the gear shift what am I going to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8626">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► except for the gear shift you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:49 ◼ ► cut to something when you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8629">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► about this many scenes with you standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► in front of the car and just talking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:55 ◼ ► have to cut to 900 different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8635">TS</a>]
02:23:57 ◼ ► during the sunset driving in the rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8637">TS</a>]
02:24:00 ◼ ► pulling out of the drought like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8640">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► don't you don't think about but go watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► another video and like see how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► times they cut - sometimes a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:08 ◼ ► unrelated thing and why does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8648">TS</a>]
02:24:09 ◼ ► because I'm like like when I watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8649">TS</a>]
02:24:11 ◼ ► video it felt a lot like I was listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8651">TS</a>]
02:24:13 ◼ ► to you on a podcast where you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8653">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► little sleepy because I know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► sound like I'm podcast you sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► this when you talk about cars but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:18 ◼ ► podcast there's nothing to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8658">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► unless you're staring at Marcos ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:21 ◼ ► changing chapter art which hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8661">TS</a>]
02:24:22 ◼ ► changed that often so don't stare too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8662">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► much but well except when I embedded a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:26 ◼ ► video and the theme song that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8666">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► noticed I noticed that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► notice no one else has to know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► tweeted about didn't they there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► excited by it no they really didn't well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► wait what did you do the reason I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► for is because someone else mentioned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:39 ◼ ► maybe was someone in a slack mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8679">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► it and I and I went and dug it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:43 ◼ ► because I didn't notice it I don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8683">TS</a>]
02:24:44 ◼ ► at the chapter ID either but someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8684">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► said hey did you lie like what you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► with that you know the video and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:48 ◼ ► whatever chapter and then I went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8688">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► looked at it because somebody said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:52 ◼ ► but anyway when you're watching a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8692">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► and listening to you talk you your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► are like come on feed me - what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8697">TS</a>]
02:24:59 ◼ ► got for me what do you got for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8699">TS</a>]
02:25:00 ◼ ► anything not that you're not attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8700">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► standing in front of a car but they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:03 ◼ ► to be fed and so if you have to cut two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8703">TS</a>]
02:25:06 ◼ ► completely unrelated footage of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8706">TS</a>]
02:25:08 ◼ ► driving down a road and going around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8708">TS</a>]
02:25:10 ◼ ► curve and going past the high and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8710">TS</a>]
02:25:12 ◼ ► past low and a drone flying over the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8712">TS</a>]
02:25:14 ◼ ► and pulling into the driveway like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8714">TS</a>]
02:25:15 ◼ ► has nothing to do with what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8715">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► saying but the eyes need to be fed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► you don't think about it but like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► go go pick your favorite car video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► pick a section where they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:24 ◼ ► talking about something and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8724">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► have any actual appropriate footage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:27 ◼ ► they don't have anything more to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8727">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► times they cut to just unrelated footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:31 ◼ ► of the car driving and when I watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8731">TS</a>]
02:25:32 ◼ ► those videos I'm like this is a pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8732">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► thing for my eyes to do because while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► I'm listening to your words I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► looking at I haven't seen the car from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► that angle oh look at that well that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► pretty tree like your brain needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:42 ◼ ► fed in the way you don't need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8742">TS</a>]
02:25:44 ◼ ► podcasts or whatever because it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8744">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► sort of going on in your head or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► you're doing dishes or whatever I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:49 ◼ ► those are those that made that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8749">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► the major things much more footage a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► much more cutting more enthusiasm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8753">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► right like you write for TV or movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8755">TS</a>]
02:25:57 ◼ ► not like you talking real life I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8757">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► that's all completely fair and what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:03 ◼ ► the one of my goals for the next video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8763">TS</a>]
02:26:07 ◼ ► entirely is I need to do better about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8767">TS</a>]
02:26:10 ◼ ► you know b-roll of outside the car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8770">TS</a>]
02:26:13 ◼ ► need to do better inside the car too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8773">TS</a>]
02:26:15 ◼ ► particularly I think I need way more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8775">TS</a>]
02:26:17 ◼ ► your point you know if the car driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8777">TS</a>]
02:26:19 ◼ ► down the road and that's a little scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8779">TS</a>]
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02:26:44 ◼ ► minute of video you have to shoot video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8804">TS</a>]
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02:26:47 ◼ ► you become good at it and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8807">TS</a>]
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02:26:55 ◼ ► footage well and and you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8815">TS</a>]
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02:27:04 ◼ ► yourself it's possible there are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8824">TS</a>]
02:27:06 ◼ ► there are ways to work around that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8826">TS</a>]
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02:27:10 ◼ ► requires way more either leaps of faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8830">TS</a>]
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02:27:18 ◼ ► people to do so you can do it but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8838">TS</a>]
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02:27:22 ◼ ► you know leaving a camera while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8842">TS</a>]
02:27:23 ◼ ► drive fast like on a tripod like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8843">TS</a>]
02:27:26 ◼ ► the better solution there is to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► another person at that camera and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► even it's even if not a tripod have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:32 ◼ ► running the camera so that you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8852">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► drive by or have them drive in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► drive past you and you run the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:37 ◼ ► there's a reason why video tends to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8857">TS</a>]
02:27:40 ◼ ► a lot of people to do at a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8860">TS</a>]
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02:27:46 ◼ ► with the having a lot of footage to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8866">TS</a>]
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02:27:52 ◼ ► crappy laptop video it like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8872">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► have enough footage to cut to and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8874">TS</a>]
02:27:56 ◼ ► trying to shoot more and I just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8876">TS</a>]
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02:28:02 ◼ ► car yeah because because what the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8882">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► things shoot to is they just shoot two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:06 ◼ ► pictures of the car driving and I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8886">TS</a>]
02:28:09 ◼ ► conscious of it after watching KC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8889">TS</a>]
02:28:10 ◼ ► video that I was like scrutinizing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8890">TS</a>]
02:28:12 ◼ ► these other because I do watch a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8892">TS</a>]
02:28:13 ◼ ► car use on YouTube like how do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8893">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► it let me look at it and the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:16 ◼ ► they just show me the car and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8896">TS</a>]
02:28:18 ◼ ► every time they show me the car I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8898">TS</a>]
02:28:20 ◼ ► looking at it because it's a moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8900">TS</a>]
02:28:22 ◼ ► picture like in the magazine the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8902">TS</a>]
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02:28:25 ◼ ► like the interior of the car in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8905">TS</a>]
02:28:26 ◼ ► magazine and look at the picture of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8906">TS</a>]
02:28:28 ◼ ► wheel and I'm always you know pinch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8908">TS</a>]
02:28:29 ◼ ► to zoom on my paper magazine it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8909">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► get any bigger and being frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8911">TS</a>]
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02:28:35 ◼ ► want to see as much I'm not there at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:37 ◼ ► car you know I don't that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8917">TS</a>]
02:28:38 ◼ ► point of this video to review is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8918">TS</a>]
02:28:39 ◼ ► have this car I don't even see this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8919">TS</a>]
02:28:41 ◼ ► in real life I only see it in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8921">TS</a>]
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02:28:44 ◼ ► ways as possible and I have no objection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8924">TS</a>]
02:28:48 ◼ ► unrelated to what I'm seeing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8928">TS</a>]
02:28:49 ◼ ► screen but also seeing this car from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8929">TS</a>]
02:28:52 ◼ ► bunch of angles and how it looks and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8932">TS</a>]
02:28:53 ◼ ► it sounds and how it feels and what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8933">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► with the sound of the blinkers inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:57 ◼ ► where does the parking brake sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8937">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► when you pull it up what is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8938">TS</a>]
02:28:59 ◼ ► all these sorts of things that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8939">TS</a>]
02:29:01 ◼ ► you could shoot and you're like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8941">TS</a>]
02:29:03 ◼ ► don't have any place in the video where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8943">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► I talk about that it's like don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:06 ◼ ► just put it in there somewhere I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8946">TS</a>]
02:29:07 ◼ ► you try to make it fit but like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSHQSb4/8947">TS</a>]