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245: Senior-Citizen Advantage

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► I am NOT looking forward to Friday not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► listen you want do some follow-up yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5">TS</a>]

00:00:07 ◼   ► don't think we only have one item here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► and it's a tiny little throwaway thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► don't know here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► how many times have we said this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► then it's like 40 minutes last time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/14">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► talked all about like Mac Pro's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/20">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► stuff maybe people were like okay fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► no was that actually the Mac Mini thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/22">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► is in a topic section is a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/27">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► follow-on from the last thing not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► confused with follow-up topic yes who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► admitted follow-on I don't know is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► even a thing I think I was just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► the actual term the actual phrase as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► something that naturally comes after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/44">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► another thing I mean you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► thought the same thing when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► first using follow-up and then it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► out you invented that there was a format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► associated with that there was a format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► what's the format for follow-on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► when you in the next show you do a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► that is a natural you know it naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/58">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► follows the topic on the previous show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► don't know I think it's whatever you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► it is well we'll say if I do it if I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► it for like two years regularly with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► with a strict format and every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► episode then we'll see what we got so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► let me just state for the record that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► immediately ended up on a tangent so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/77">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► only item I have is more chair follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/87">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► class last week I think I was sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► a gesture right I think you had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► started on the gesture like that day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► something recently yeah yeah so I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► it for a few days or whatever but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► swapped it back now for the for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► embody and now we're like I took the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► chairs out of the room so now we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► the actual trial period where I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► try one chair and my wife will try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► other and then we'll switch back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► forth and see how we go I kind of know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► what I think of both of the chairs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► far and I wish there was one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/119">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► just such a clear winner but the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► lumpy thing underneath Ian's body annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► me but I think I like the embody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/128">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I think it fits my body you better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► the gesture so anyway the only bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► follow-up I have is last week I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► sitting on the gesture but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► wondering how I was gonna figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► to take off the arms and I'm happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► report that I did successfully remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► the arms without too much fuss it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► just a tiny little bit tricky it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► wasn't actually tricky like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► straightforward unless you are if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/153">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► don't have a lot of experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► disassembling things it's you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/158">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► this is how you get experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► sometimes you do it the wrong way when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► you're a kid a lot maybe adults don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► this but frequently as a child if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► wanted to take something apart I took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► lot of things apart you would look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► and be like I want that thing to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► off and you'd look around for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► seconds and see there's any obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/177">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► screw heads poking out somewhere or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► something like you know what do I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► to unscrew or untwist or whatever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► make this come out and if you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► anything you know then you're like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► I've got a lot of tools and I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► I have opposable thumb said I'm a clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► little tool using monkey I can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► off like it's coming off right you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► you you realize that you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► you're like I have I have leverage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► and friction and all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► that will get this thing off but you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► up destroying the thing when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/205">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► taking it off and so the Steelcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► gesture chair is one of those devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► where any tool using monkey can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► the thing and say I can get those arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► off probably like I kind of have an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► like I see some some squishy plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► bits that seem like they have seams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► even though I don't see any screws that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I can unscrew to get it undone I see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► lot of things that are soft enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► I can pry them off and surely underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► those things if I pry them off will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► the screws that I seek and I'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► to remove these arms but me having some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► experience disassembling things knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► how this goes yeah you probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► eventually do it that way but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► also a very good chance that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► pry off all these soft parts and damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► them and underneath them will just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► scary unyielding metal that doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► you at all so take two seconds to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► about it and I did things I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► something about it I didn't pry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► thing out but didn't destroy because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► know it's expensive chair and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/256">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► you know be nice to it anyway like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► said this is so it comes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► experience taking things apart so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► found yeah you could feel the underside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/263">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/267">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► and very large ruse that were probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► holding the arms on but there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► you could get at the top of them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► there was no like there was you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► see the top of them and like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► chair went together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/278">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► someone assembled this chair and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► not like so many Apple things one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► assembly with like with tabs don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► know untap or like things that I fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► has to remove with heat because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► glued like put this beanbag in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► microwave or even just things a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/292">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► things snap together like a plastic snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► together model or there's like a slot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► the tab and like they really only go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► one direction you have no way to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► that tab back out like without breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► it but I figured a chair is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► that so the trick of it in case you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/308">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► wondering is the seat of the Steelcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► chair slides forward and back on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► little like it's like rack and pinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► steering there's like a little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► rack thing and then a little gear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► turns right and I could see that to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► the top of the screw heads that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► to get at they would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► underneath the back of the seat so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► moved the seat forward but I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► remove the sort of plastic shroud it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/328">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► not like a car plastic shroud that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► probably covering what I imagined to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► the tops of those screws now my car with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► a sweet if the seat goes forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► underneath the seat there's no screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► underneath there but this would one tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/338">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► little tab that was like stopping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► seat from going completely forward so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► you can move it forward and back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► what prevented it why did it stop going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► forward this is one tiny little tab it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► was made of flexible springy metal all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► right so push that little springy tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► down into the slot and all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► the chair you can just keep turning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► dial the chair slides right off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► front like the seat slides right off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► front in one piece perfectly fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► then you have access to the body of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► seat and then there's a plastic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► with some little you know you peel off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► the plastic shroud with some little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► plastic cookie things in there you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► see the apparently expensive chair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► receive standard which is a t30 torx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► screws and they were like six of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► and they were really hard to undo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► they're humongous at once I had all six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► of them out the arms came right off no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► damage done at all reassembled perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► so happy report that I have two armless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► chairs and did not damage them and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32 ◼   ► of what I imagine is several hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► dollars worth of useless arms up in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► attic that's by the way that's a I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/397">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► even know if I would sell them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► I'm such a hoarder but um it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► I wish I had known earlier is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► buy the embody without arms for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► hundred dollars less if you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► someone who will sell to you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► configure it without arms and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► save like a hundred bucks on it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► no small on that as far as I could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► there was no place where you could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► the gesture without arms because gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► the arms and the gesture are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► like half the point of the chair they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► very very configurable actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► cool arms I just don't want them on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► chair so that's it for my update I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/432">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► sitting on the embody there are no arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► and we're off to the races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► life was good wait what what about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► wife though what if she wants arms on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21 ◼   ► her chair tough noogies she doesn't she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► doesn't want them oh that was part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► the prenup no no it was not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/444">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► prenup but she told me I don't want arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► are they get in the way she's used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► having a chair with no arms as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► they just there's get in the way so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► arms for anybody I think that's bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► I can't imagine not having arms so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► I'm serious do like I explained this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► like thing because you missed it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► don't know people will deal with arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► not sure like if your if your arms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► positioned ergonomically on the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► like it should be like if you looked if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► you look at yourself sitting at the seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► in profile it should be a 90 degree L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► from like your shoulder straight down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► your elbow and then 90 degrees out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► the keyboard right that's where you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► to be in that position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► especially if you have longer arms like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► mine your elbows are already low enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► that they're probably bumping into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► armrest like and even if the arm rests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/486">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► are below where your arms are if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► relax or move or whatever your arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► might bump into the armrest and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► feel like I feel constrained by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► armrest that my elbows are constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► bumping them so then I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► pulling in my elbows to instinctively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► avoid bumping into the armrest and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► is uncomfortable intent so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► first thing and the second thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► apparently getting in and out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► chair sideways all the time and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► there are arms there you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► like you know you have to climb over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► them you have to rotate there pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► the chair and by the way these chairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► are really heavy I wish they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► lighter and they don't roll that well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► the carpet but but by my as I get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► the chairs from the side and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► they're arms you can't get in from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► third the arms hit against my keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► trade because of the height they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► have to be like if I put the arms below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► the level like you were traded be so low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► that they'd be like hitting my hips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► not my elbows but like what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► the point thing so they just they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► arms just don't fit into my chair life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► at all and I imagine a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► have arms in their chair who don't mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► with them their keyboard is too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► like if your keyboard is on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► chances are good your keyboard is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► high like if you sit properly and type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► and your arms do not make perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► 90-degree ELLs or a larger angle so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you know 95 degrees or whatever so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► see the angle at your elbows is bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► than 90 then you're probably your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► keyboard is 200 which may not bother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► but it's super bothers me a lot now all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► I can think of is I'm envisioning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► mounting a chair by hopping one leg over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► it like Jonathan Frakes you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► gonna pull I was gonna do a reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► there like nobody's gonna get that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► guess yeah me me enough the case you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► it oh come on I love the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► well I got to do this to me dad yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► when you watch next generation did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► know about that or did you all course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► about it after the meme came yeah only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► after I think I'm more disappointed when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/589">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► I here at John siracusa mmm-hmm then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56 ◼   ► when my own father does the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► this is an abusive relationship let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/598">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► just move on to ask ATP and Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► Rogers would like to know how do you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► feel about Bitcoin slash crypto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► currencies do you think that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► real long-term value in them or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► just short-term speculation plays do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► buy into the underlying structure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► sustaining billions of transactions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► the future do you and do you hold any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► coins of any type I know almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/621">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► about any of this and have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► cryptocurrencies of any sort and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► love to be enlightened and I did here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► Glenn Fleischmann I think on the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► show try to describe well he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► describe Bitcoin and it still flew right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► over my head and so I just don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► I treat Bitcoin the same way I treat all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► other kind of you know high-risk mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► luck based or speculation based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► investments which is this is a game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► other people play that I should not play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/649">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► and so I don't play I I don't even own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► individual stocks anymore like I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► I used to have like some of my savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► be a neat trade account that I could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► and sell individual stocks from I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► for for a couple of years and I came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/665">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► a little ahead but I was always worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► about it and the ups and downs really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► annoyed me and and stressed me out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► like all the index funds over this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► the same time beat my performance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/676">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► wasn't like I was being particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► special or clever that pretty much any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► kind of like manually managed individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/684">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► investments like this are I think not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/688">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► good use of my time or my money your if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► you are more if you're a person who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► more into doing that and and you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► get a lot of interest and value out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► that that can be your game and and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► power to you but I decided that the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► way for me to make more money was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► just do things that made me that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► money like do more of them and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► was like better than trying to extract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► an extra you know 5 or 10% a year out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► some some potentially lucky investments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► that often times weren't so lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► Bitcoin to me is is no different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► playing stocks it really isn't it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► a volatile foreign currency basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► like you know foreign exchange markets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► commodity market these there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► types of commodity trading Bitcoin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/733">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► not the first thing to do this like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► a rose for a very long time it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/737">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► very clear what can happen in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► what can go well what can go poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► Bitcoin is in some ways even less secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► than let's think because of the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► works but you know as a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► money I I wouldn't advise people put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/752">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► lot of faith in systems like this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► fun thing to play around with or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► you're doing it for more political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► reasons like you want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► statement about not being part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► you know like the the official banking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► systems and everything that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► might have other reasons but for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► money I don't think I think it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/771">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► you know you might as well go to Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► like it's if you it's just gambling it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► just a different form of gambling so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► view this kind of in the same category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► as many other things in my life where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/783">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► feel like I was well positioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/787">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► to know about this type of because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/792">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► a tech thing well positioned to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► about this thing more than regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► people to know about it sooner to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► understand it better to sort of get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► the ground floor like another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► are a lot of like the internet IPOs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► stuff you know back in the days when no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► one understood the internet but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► certainly did because I was on it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► early right as a techy person there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► some you have some advantages in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► realms and Bitcoin falls into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► category and like all those other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► I kind of think of it as yet another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/820">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► case where I failed to make a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► money and I could have because like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► example you know if we all knew we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► now and put us back into 1990 like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► would all be billionaires because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► just know you would know to like first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► of all buy all the domain names you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► get for like common names because some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► company will buy them from you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► like second of all sync all your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► and the stocks that we know are gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/845">TS</a>]

00:14:06 ◼   ► crazy right like you know it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► go back in time and understand but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► were there early and it's like I knew do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► my names would have value but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► like you know 200 bucks to get one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► Verisign or whatever and I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► afford that because I was a college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► student you know we're working a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► part-time job to pay for my books it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23 ◼   ► 11-a know crappy dorm like I didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► know it was it was timing was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► good but not really same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► investment I could have invested I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► have got a large amount of VA Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► stock because I contributed to Sipan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► right but I didn't have that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► money to invest and I could have got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► like a five hundred percent return on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► investment if I had had the money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► invest right so Bitcoin similarly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/881">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► Bitcoin was first going around I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► like oh I you know I read up on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► learned about it understood what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► deal with it was I got to even got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► the point where I downloaded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► software and was mining for coins on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► incredibly slow computer wherever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► hell it was at that time right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► didn't you know didn't take it super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► seriously and didn't invest a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► time in it and you know it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► boring to mine for coins and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► yeah like I think I I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► what I got out of it some fractional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► Bitcoin probably exists on some backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► of my hard drive somewhere or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► don't know if I got one Bitcoin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► should dig that up it's worth 700 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► now like I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► the hell that crap is there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► another problem with the system that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► so based on like you know do you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► lose track your files well how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► feel those files were worth about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► thousands of dollars so but but unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/927">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► the investing gambling things it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► type of situation where there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► possibility because that you are a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► that you could have with like with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► risk and no money upfront it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► an ad like you just spend a little time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► on your computer because you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► early and because it was easier to mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► coins in the beginning than it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► right computationally speaking you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/950">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► have done what many people did is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► you're just a little bit more interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► in and you had mined coins a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► more thoroughly for like a month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► something that didn't cost you anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► it's not like you're putting your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► savings into it you spent a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► of time and you're having some fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► it's hobbing is an interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► let's take a look and why you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► because you're a nerd and you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► this stuff and that would be worth a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► huge amount of money now but I didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that so well the way I view Bitcoin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► if you were in really early and minded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► when they were easy and held them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► instead of buying them to order pizzas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► like so many people did in the sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► stories where they they ordered they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► sold their bitcoins in order to pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► for 20 bucks and now the the bitcoins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► that they ordered that pizza with are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► worth like you know 50 grand and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► bad about it or I guess I suppose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► would be worse but but that time is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► like we all missed that and now it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► like Marco said it's just like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► now you look at it and you're like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► is just a giant soap bubble floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► through the air that's either about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► burst or something terrible will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► or like it is it is so incredibly risky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► and scary and you're you know supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► to buy low and sell high not buy a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► and hope it's gonna go way higher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► obviously that's terrible advice if ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► you if you're thinking of investing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► Apple and it's ten years ago but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► risk like and it's it's not you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► put you have to put in money to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► money at this point where is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► beginning you put in like nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► make potentially huge or nothing to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► nothing I like penny stocks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► it's like very little investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► probably is gonna come to nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► it's but it's such a small amount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► it's a fun thing to do if you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► this nerdy stuff it's kind of fun it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► like steady at home but for money so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► so I regret obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► getting more into it earlier but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► can you do you can't tell the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► so anyway I have no interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► getting into it now I don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► understand how they could ever sustain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► any large transaction volume I see lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► of potential pitfalls this but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► it is very technically interesting using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► math to make a bunch of parties who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► don't trust each other have a verifiable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► trust relationship for transactions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► think that's an important advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► both the the math behind it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► probably not that new but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► implementations of it which it is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► idea to say can we actually implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► this in a safe way without bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► problems and without letting more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► 51% of the swarm get a quorum and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► you know tip the whole market or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► whatever the hell anyway I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► cool but it's not for me as much as I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► staying far away from it I'd always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► had no desire to to get into it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► financial reasons it is technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► beautiful like it is an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► technical accomplishment and idea and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► really respect that but you know despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► all of its other problems it is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► awesome of an idea and a concept and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► I could have no interest in gambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► with it as a financial instrument well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► it's not beautiful about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► unfortunately is that due to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► constraints of the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► implementations as in like what is it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► parties that don't trust each other can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► have verifiable relationships at low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► transaction volumes it has found its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► ecological the ecological niche which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► you know selling drugs and illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► things there's a small number of parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► who really really don't trust each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► and really don't want to use the banking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► system and they don't have a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► transaction volume right and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► kind of it's kind of sad right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► but but the transaction volume actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► is a problem you can't move the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► banking system to a cryptocurrency until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► they sort those things out and who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► if they will but I do really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► idea of whatever disintermediation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► whatever the phrase was from the 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► which i think is still an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► thing because nobody likes middlemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► when the middleman is math well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► other problem that is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► environmental cost of Bitcoin is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► non-trivial like the amount of energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► being wasted because all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► wasting massive amounts of energy now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► has a financial upside for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► who are doing it much more so than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► think it ever has before for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► apparently no other work that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► not good like it is a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► technical system that yeah I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► you're right that like if it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► scaled to be incredibly big it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► have stayed a beautiful technical system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► but because of how big it is and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► of how much money could be made in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► and you know all the it basically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► being like you know exploited like crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► for for financial gain and the result is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► a pretty nasty burning of energy for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► reason indeed moving on neo and Tendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► nada which apparently somebody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► translated to I do not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► anything would like to ask do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► the next iPhone se will be called iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► SC X which was a funny thought to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► the least the way that the model 3 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► uh-huh my thoughts on this is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► iPhone se will just continue to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► iPhone se it will be more like a trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► level if you will than an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► model like iPhone 7 and so there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► if there is another iPhone se which um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► I'd think there probably will be and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► it eventually gets all the nifty bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► from the iPhone 10 then I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► still just be the iPhone se it'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► be the you know 2018 edition if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► no I don't mean that in the literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► sense but it'll just be than the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► version of it what do you think Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► honestly I don't really care it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► very nice important product but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► really care what the name is I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► also say they might do se too I share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► your opinion that it will probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► I would I would expect it to get my pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► probably next spring maybe it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► the SE - maybe it's called the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► iPhone se maybe it's called the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► se 2018 or whatever like it's fine I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► this question in here because I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► it would be a quickie because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► think anyone would seriously try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► answer it like you just did but good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► I just took put it in here as yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► another opportunity for me to tell an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► old Mac person a story don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► glad some people know chatroom do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► this that shows that the right kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► old people are in our chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► but back in like 1988-89 the the Mac two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► had just come out and the successor to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► the Mac two was called the Mac 2x it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► a faster version of the Mac two and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► Mac se was the contemporary of the Mac - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► the all-in-one in temporary so they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► that the Mac two gave way to the Mac 2x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► so have the Mac SC naturally it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► give way to the Mac se X but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► they didn't want to do that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► spells out sex and they and their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► know didn't have a product for that name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► so instead of calling it then the Mac se [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► X they called the Mac SE / 30 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37 ◼   ► su-30 is my favorite Mac ever and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► entire name is derived from Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► desire not to have a computer named sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► and so it's funny all these years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► that they have painted themselves into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► the same corner by having a successor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► product with a capital letter X in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► name and having a product with se whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► natural successor were they to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► that naming convention and make one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► a notch or something would have an X and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► so I think they should call it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► iPhone su-30 well and also I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► realistically speaking you know sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► thing aside the X or 10 branding is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► high end phone and it's gonna remain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► high end phone for probably quite some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► time I would honestly be surprised if by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► the time like if the use of the letter X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► in the iPhone name does indeed end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► filtering down the line which is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► given it might not if it filters down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► the line over over time either by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► time it gets to the point where it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► be suitable to use on a low-end model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the iPhone se will not be the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► that's used anymore for that model like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► they will have moved on to some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► naming convention where se is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37 ◼   ► used so it's a funny question but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► don't think it would it would even be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► a consideration because they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► bringing the letter X down that low in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► line in any way its capital and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► 10 like back in the Mac days it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► was a lowercase X and it was pronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► X so it really would have been capital s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► capital e lowercase X and the 2x was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► Roman numeral 2 you know two big bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► and then the lowercase X so that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► I just wanted to tell the story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► ac30 for the people who don't know it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► feel better for having known that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► and in in a very sad and terrible turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► of events I did not get to do the ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► ATP notes before John did and normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► that'd be kind of nice because I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► a busy week but John is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► following question to ask ATP so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► have any upset or angry emails that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► would like to send or tweets please send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► them to John siracusa anyway James or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► James D who asks what's the blest best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► place to start when trying to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► fish John do you have any opinions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► this that everybody should get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► question that's aimed at them every once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► in a while so this one's for you marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► Casey do you want to go first I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► say that you're gonna say some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► live show probably the New Year's Eve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► show from the most recent year okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► basically what you need to know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► getting into fish is that the album's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► are a great place to start to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► know what their music roughly sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► like but what most fish fans listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► most of the time is the live shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► because they are substantially better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► fish is the kind of thing you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► like it's like you can listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► album's first and they're on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► streaming service now it's like if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► everybody has a streaming subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► for something these days so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► listen to fish music I'm pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► anywhere you know any service you have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► would suggest start if if you can if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► your service has it and most of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► start with one of the live albums now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► it's a little different than most bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► in that while they have live album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► releases that that span like the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► years they put out like you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► 10 of maybe 10 like official albums that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► are live and like one of the first ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► called a live one that's on all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► services you can definitely listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► live one if you wanted to and it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► but unlike most bands every single fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► show every concert they do is recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► from the soundboard professionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► mastered and released a few hours after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► the show ends as a legal purchasable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► download from a site that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► affiliated with called live fish com I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► think live fish also has a OS apps where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► I think you can stream for free you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► can't pick what they're playing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► like a constant live stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► that I think you can do for free so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► you listen on your streaming service of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► choice and you decide that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► something you want to hear more of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► way to get more into it is not to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► listen to all their studio albums if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► don't really it the way to get into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► is to listen to more live shows and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► you exhaust the official releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► they've done over time the way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► more into it after that is to go to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► fish either their app or the website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► either preview for free or buy the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► there and that's it and enjoy that took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► a lot less time than I expected I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► you'll insert some fish clip after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► say the word enjoy at that point just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► like a guitar riff there are like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► of the words from the middle of the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► words that are in the middle of the half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► an hour song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► you have to put in meat stick because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► that is the most preposterous fish song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► well which one I have hold on 37 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► recordings of meat stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► in my collection so for reference I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► 77 hundred fish songs over one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► and twelve gigs that span 42 days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► total time and that's only what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► done since about 2009 and you buy every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► single show is that right yeah by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► like they have like season passes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► live fish whenever they whenever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► like a new tour is announced and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► pre-order the entire tour as legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► downloads so I just do that so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► usually it's like a couple hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► for like a whole summer tour or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► something like that and I just do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► if you're so in a point to like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► you're more into going to concerts they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► put on a great show and they put on lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► of them and so even though they sell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► like they put on just so many shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► they aren't that hard to get into if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► if you try and you don't have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► pay a ridiculous price to do it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► anything so if you are a concert goer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► highly suggest you go to their concerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► I personally just don't enjoy going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► concerts very much I have been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► exactly one Phish show and it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► but I didn't feel like I need to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► more I really love listening to the live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► shows but I'm not a concert person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► if you're a concert person especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► you're into the drug scene at all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► again I am NOT they are apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► great place to be if you're into that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► are sponsor this week by aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► bone conduction headphones go to ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► aftershocks calm to learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► after some headphones work by bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► conduction so small transducers resting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► in front of your ears sends small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► vibrations through your cheek bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► directly to your inner ear so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► not really putting anything in or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► your ears themselves it's all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► through your cheek bones from the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► of your ear so this leaves your actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► ears totally open with nothing blocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► nothing making them sweaty nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► making them hurt so of course this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► great for comfort for exercise for hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► weather there even ip55 certified for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► water resistance so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► worry about that the biggest thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► me the big advantage of these is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► they leave your ears open you hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► world around you in addition to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► podcast you listening to or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► phonecall you're taking so this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► isn't so great if you're in a very loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► place like a subway station in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► city but it's awesome if you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► things like listen to a podcast or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► a phone call while walking or while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► running or cycling where you really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► to hear the world around you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► practical or safety reasons and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► could be as simple as you're at home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► you need to take a phone call you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► to listen to podcasts and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► know maybe when your kid upstairs wakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► up from their nap or if somebody knocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► on the door you want to be able to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► it so this is great not for loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► environments not for like pristine music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► listening but for practical speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► content of phone calls podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► audiobooks it's great for that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► you're in an environment where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► didn't want or need to hear the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► around you I highly suggest using these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► things if you have need like that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► used them myself I'm a big fan they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► had great headphones that I loved before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► this for walking around and these have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► totally replaced them they are wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► so check out the aftershocks line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► headphones they have the titanium model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► which I had at first they now also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► the air model because even lighter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► has a few additional little features you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► can't go wrong with Eve of them honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► check out the lineup today at ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► aftershocks calm that's ATP aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► calm thank you so much to aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► for sponsoring our show so this week as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► we record in fact it will be in just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► couple of days is iPhone 10 pre-order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► time because the world revolves around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► California and California stuck in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► past which is to say outside of Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► and I guess Alaska it is the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► American time zone please don't email me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► the pre-orders will go up at midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► California time and as as they do every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► year California gives a big middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► finger to the rest of the world / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► especially country and at 3 o'clock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► the morning I will be waking up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► Friday morning to pre-order to iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► tens one for me one for Aaron and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► genuinely genuinely will be stunned if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► receive either of these in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► I will be getting one of the I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► remember the official name white and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► of the I don't remember the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► name black it's both 256 gigs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► children and movies and things of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► nature and I will be sufficiently broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► they're after John what is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► intention for this coming Friday so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► that's the reason I put this topic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► was just to have someone who knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► cares more than I do tell me exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► what time this is happening so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► decide whether I'm gonna be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► anything obviously I'm not ordering one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► for myself potentially I could be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► to do this at 3 a.m. for my wife for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► phone I need her to tell me what color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► she wants and what size I guess those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► the only options right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► color in size yeah yeah there's only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► sizes 64 256 right so yeah because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► it like I think she wants to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► whether she really wants this first but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► you can always cancel an order so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► kind of makes sense to just like try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► get in and if you happen to get an order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► and you're lucky fine and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► before your order ships you'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► to like see it in a store or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► I'm assuming I think I was just returned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► after what is the 14 day return window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► or whatever yeah yeah so I assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► she's gonna want a pre-order for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► and so this may be the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► actually do is I've never done it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► cuz I was just wait for my phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► normally she doesn't care what we do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► I think she's getting impatient with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► phone which by the way this is her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► she's got an iPhone 6s plus and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► the latest version of iOS 11 on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► she says it's like slowing down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► getting all sort of stuttery and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► and I didn't notice her animations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► stuttery so I turn down reduce emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► like that it's fixed no more stuttering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► animations but he still complains that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► it it's slow and crab but maybe hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► maybe her storage just filling up I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► to look at it but if anyone has any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► bright ideas and how to if it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► sort of problem related to iOS 11 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► makes iPhone 6s plus is slow down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► because 6s Plus isn't that old I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it should be fine but anyway she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► getting frustrated with her current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► phone and wants the phone sooner rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► than later so if she can't get in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► pre-order for this she might just buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► 8 plus which would be her probably fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► and she'd be happy with it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► certainly more boring than than trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► the 10 let me just put it on record John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► here Markos intentions that if you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► tea no phone and if she does not want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► I would like dibs on it's gonna be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► don't care or what sighs whatever 64 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► don't care I am that like so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► this is the first world he is to first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► of all problems right that I'm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► worked up as I get every year about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► getting the new Apple hotness quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► but this is even worse than every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► year because Apple has all but come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► and said or maybe they did say at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► point but they've all become out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► said good friggin luck getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► anytime soon so I am trying to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► whatever angle I can in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► myself in iphone 10 as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► that being said Marco what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► intention so I'm gonna get well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► going to try to get I love Kim albergue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► user in the chat said the official color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► names are kind of black and somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► white I'm going for some white variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► yeah you know so I've I've had every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► single iPhone that I've had so far has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► been in whatever version of black was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► the black and black they had that year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► like I have Jeff like iPhone 7 currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► and you know before that just Space Gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► Space Gray basically it's funny Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► has no idea what color space is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► how all the different space grades I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► had but it's just in various points in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► the past I have had interest in getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► one of the lighter backed ones like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► silver backed ones just for a variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► sake or certain models I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► looked better but I never wanted the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► never wanted the white front front plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► on it like above the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► everything just like John right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► I just don't think those look very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► now I have the option to get either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► color with the same you know black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► knotch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► and and black bezel around it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► honestly in the pictures I've seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► far which admittedly is not many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► because there nobody has these yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► in the picture I saw like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► launch event from like the backstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► area I thought the kind of white one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► looked better than the somewhat black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► one but again it could just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► just want variety cuz I've had so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► black phones in a row anyway so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► gonna go for that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► I'm gonna go for the large capacity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the Verizon or sim-free one if I can at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► all get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► soon because I am an AT&T customer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► I'm not interested in changing networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► as Verizon doesn't actually cover my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► house or most of my neighborhood very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► well the reason I want the Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► version despite not being not being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► Verizon customer is that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► the same thing again this year that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► started last year with the seven which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► is that for the GSM only ones the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► that are being sold as AT&T phones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► the US and I don't know what situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► is elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► those have an Intel cellular modem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► the ones that are sold either sim-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► or that are sold on CDMA based networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► like Verizon and Sprint are using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► Qualcomm modem allegedly when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► started last year with the 7o the modems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► are the same it doesn't matter whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► phone you get it's fine you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► there have been other iPhones in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► past I'd like minor component variations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► like whether you got like a Samsung or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► TSMC system on a chip and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► success generation have like a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► battery variation and stuff anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► have found with my experience with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► Intel modem iPhone 7s on AT&T I've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► lot of call dropping problems away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► my microphone on my phone will stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► working and the person they're in will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► not be able to hear me and I have done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► lot of research I've heard from a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► people customers I've even heard from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► number from a few geniuses at Apple bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► or groves or whatever they called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► arborist now because they're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► Grove I don't know what they are anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► heard from a couple of arborists that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► this is actually a pretty big thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► it's a pretty widespread issue that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► Intel modem AT&T iPhone sevens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► frequently have this issue where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► microphone drops out during a phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► like this is just a thing and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► trying my best with this generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► by the way this has been really annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► like you think you don't get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► you know as a nerd you think oh I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► make phone calls it isn't that big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► deal and then I'm like on the phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► somebody at Apple and it drops and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► like yeah you know you don't want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► calls to be unreliable what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► happened for an app developer like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► want you want to stay on that call it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► really annoying when that happens and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► makes it very hard to use this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► phone and I've actually had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► different iPhone sevens because one one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► was replaced for a bad lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► halfway through the year and they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► do it to some degree so I know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► just some fluke thing with my very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► Tiff's did it too like we they all do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► and just an issue of whether whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► network conditions caused this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► whether that affects where you are or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► not is whether it's gonna happen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► or not it seems but anyway so I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► my hardest to get the Qualcomm modem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► the iPhone 10 and the only way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► that is to get the Verizon or sim free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► version in the US and they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► probably offer the sim free version for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► a while they usually they don't with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► high-profile release they don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► offer it immediately usually it's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► weeks out or a couple months out even so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► I'm gonna try to get a Verizon one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► don't have a verizon account so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► gonna be pretty much impossible for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► to actually place an order for that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► what I'm probably gonna end up having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► do is order the ATT one in the app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► whatever I do that night and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► go to the stores constantly over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► next few weeks because there's no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► come on day one it says go to the stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► for the next few weeks and I hope I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► get myself Verizon one or a SIM free one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► somehow and that's about it I I - I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► gonna wake up at 3 in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► I'm gonna try to place my order I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► I'm not gonna be able to and when I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► finally able to probably 10 minutes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► the ordering window the delivery dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► if I'm lucky will be December mm if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► more honest with myself probably January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► and or or even later that's 2018 so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► I'm just not that optimistic about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► chances of getting it in the app the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► only reason I'm waking up at 3 a.m. at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► all is that on the on the off chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► that that Apple has made more of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► than they thought they would this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► or whatever and you know if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► actually place an order at 3 a.m. and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► get it within a couple of weeks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► launch day I will feel really stupid if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► I don't if I didn't do that like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► decide to just get up at 8 a.m. and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► to place here then and then go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► stores and just hope for the best like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► I'm gonna feel really stupid but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► NOT optimistic I think it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► really bad scene I think even people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► get there in the first minute or two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► the order of being open are gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► seeing dates in December yep and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► just it's gonna be it's gonna be rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► and it's and that's that's if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► lucky if you're lucky to get it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► year and I I really am a little worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► for like what this is going to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► Apple's financials and their sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► numbers and ever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► for the next few quarters because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► really don't think they're gonna sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► nearly as many of these as there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► demand for but the people who have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► waiting for this some portion of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► will say oh I forget it if I can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► the same time soon or if they're if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► initial reviews come out and they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► there's some annoyance with them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that certain people don't want to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► with or that won't solve their needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► well enough there is gonna be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► percentage of those people who say oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► forget it I'll get an A+ or I'll get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► 8 and and that'll be it and so the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► know Apple will sell phone to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► people for sure like it if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► guess I'm I'm guessing that Friday like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► after everyone has tried to place the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► order for the iPhone 10 and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► told it's gonna be January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► I'm guessing Friday afternoon is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► be probably the big that the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► biggest sales day for the iPhone 8 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► for its entire run the biggest was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► probably its opening day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► I bet the eight plus has the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► biggest day on Friday because of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► those people who are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► discouraged from the X sorry 10 that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► discouraged from the 10 and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► gonna say oh I forget it I'll get the A+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► and and that'll be that but that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► know that that's gonna be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50 ◼   ► percentage of people I don't think it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► be a high percentage people I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► of the people who were really holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► out for the iPhone 10 are not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► settle for the 8 plus or the 8 they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► gonna just wait for the 10 even if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► means spring time like and by then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► might say you know what now I'm a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► of the way until the next iPhone comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► out I'll just wait till the x2 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► whatever might come out next of all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► know like if the shipping delays are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► long enough they've run that risk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► this actually might be a problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► Apple is taking a pretty big risk here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► with the way they have launched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► phone I tell you one thing I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► want to be Tim Cook for the next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that well I mean I guess it's very he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► probably is pretty good life but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► like this I have a feeling he's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► under a lot of scrutiny if if these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► financials don't work out because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► can't sell enough of the iPhones people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► actually are waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► that's gonna be a problem for Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► it'll even out over time though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► I feel like all the reports we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► about inventory problems are all none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► them say it's anything systemic like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► year from now this should be settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► right and so that's bad because you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► a whole year of under shipment right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► that it evens out eventually and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► he always takes the long view yes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► are gonna complain to him about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► numbers are crappy or whatever but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► over a two year three year time period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► this you know the sales of this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► will just be a different shape but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► total numbers should be good because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► you said if they sales they lose for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► people who want to buy a 10 but can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► get it are probably good to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► eighth they have good retention and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► I'm gonna say well if I can't get a 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► I'm gonna try an Android phone I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► there's some of that always but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► the bigger potential problem is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► inventory which is you know it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► it's better if you have enough phones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► sell to people that's much better right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► but it does even out over the long haul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► if your things are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► the real danger is what if the 10 is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► that good or if the 10 is not does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► satisfy the customers who all think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► want it now because you can't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► doesn't even out over time that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► worse over time and that increases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► chance of someone's gonna go to it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► know try an Android phone or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► like that so I mean I bet he's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► worried Apple should be more worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► about 10 not being good phone than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► are about not but having enough of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► they should be worried about not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► enough of them but not as much as not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► having a good phone um and from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► perspective like I'm I always cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► patience on this like I'm I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► one it just so happens that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► confluence of events where you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► wife's phone is old and it's her year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► and it's getting slow because of iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► or I could just because of upgrade a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► of Voodoo people suggest to try to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► know make it become faster including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► resetting a bunch of stuff but I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► doing that because like if you reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► stuff and it doesn't make it faster then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► you have to change all your settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► back for and you just you just cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► yourself even more time and yourself be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► more annoyed anyway she's impatient I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► not casey is always impatient obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► as he already described the team he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► telephone now-now-now and marko kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► needs to have the new phone no no no as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► well as far as I'm concerned I minded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► one yeah I think Marco and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► probably tied for least amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► patience but he's got he's got at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► a legit reason that he can rationalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► like he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► an app for it and everything right I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► this for a living yeah but you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► help you're gonna have one available at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► work like it doesn't have to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► personal phone am i yeah sure right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► I mean if it's important for you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► your application to be available yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► but but everyone like everyone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► everyone's job is under the same problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► that we're at like I know it's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► right but you have a lot more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► don't have to get a phone just somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► to so what I'm getting at is it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► just someone on ATP needs to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► phone for the purposes of of doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► show right but we don't all need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► the phone so I think it'll be fine if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► just get one of them and of course it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► would be nice if Apple just sent us one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► to review intent Apple people but so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► podcast still don't exist as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► they're concerned so we wait patiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► and we will try to order with the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► of the people for a loose definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► patiently but yes but yeah but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► regular people who are not in a hurry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► just wait like wait until the spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► nothing will happen to you if your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► currently works fine and isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► doesn't have some weird problem it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► making you want to get it don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► that thing that Casey feels where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► just needs to have the newest greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► phone like especially in the case of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► 10 which might be annoying or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► problematic in ways that nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► yet because nobody has them and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► very different the other phone it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► a known quantity there's so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► that could go wrong with it so and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► don't want the first batch of them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► there there are so many reasons to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► just relax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► just it's so much more relaxing to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► pretend you're not listening to detect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► podcast and pretend you just wander into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► an Apple Store and March and go oh these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► new iPhones they go buy one of these and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► they'll say would you like one you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► say yes I would like one and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► bring it from the back for you you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► buy it like a normal person who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► listen to the accidental type podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37 ◼   ► it's cool like I'll also say like in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► the craziness of trying to get one if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► you buy one from somebody else don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► have them ship it in the box that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► shipped to them in as I learned last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► year in this horrible incident I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► feel so bad in this horrible incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► basically you know I think Apple tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► them pretty well when they ship them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► the original customer such that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► think people ups are trying to steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► them or anything like that out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► boxes at Apple ships and then but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► Yuri tape up that box and ship it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► as resale those happen to get stolen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► quite a lot as I learned last year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► so don't do that put it in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► box maybe and maybe maybe don't try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► every sell it if you do try to resell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► yeah for the love of God put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► different box and don't label it iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► or a rock or something did you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► was just the plastic wrap from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► outside of the of the iPhone it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► little bit classier when they replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► with a rock or something I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► that shows the personal touch for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► thieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► yeah and I got a very lightweight box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► that was literally stolen from the UPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► supply chain because it was stamped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► before like it had its weight stamped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► its label before it was replaced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► nothing so that was fun yeah the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► thing I would say is if you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► might want one don't follow John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► advice and be patient if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► there's any change you might want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► an order in because you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► cancel it with like three clicks if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► decide before it ships but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► want it just put the order in if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► at all on the fence because then you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► least have an option to get one in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► months when it finally shifts or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► like you'll have a date that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► one but now you're tempting people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► stay awake at 3 a.m. like you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► midnight at least like you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► well if you're gonna order it you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37 ◼   ► as water at the beginning is why yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► anyway so then you know you're setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► your alarm for midnight what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► I'm actually saying like just like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► you think there's any way you can if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► think if you think there's any chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► you're gonna want one stay up till 3:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► a.m. or wake up at 3:00 a.m. and do plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you're encouraging more competition for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► us though most people that's a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► problem stay up till 3:15 a.m. and order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► it yeah that's nothing I'm hoping I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► might actually be doing this this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► is I'm hoping that like the the casuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► all bought iPhone eights right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► normally there's like this big pent up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► demand for the new phone and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► who wants the new phone goes at once but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► now we have a tier where it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► want the new phone but do you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► the super expensive one or do you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► want the new iPhone because it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► good and it's new it's different enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► that I think it satisfies what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► want you know it's like it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► outside with the glass things and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► cameras and you know all that other good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► stuff different colors right I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► those people are people that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► have normally been competing with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► those people were there trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► the seventh or whatever right but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► of those people go out and they got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► eights now leaving I hope a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► group of people for the ten now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► unfortunately that smaller group people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► at 10 is probably competing for a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► way way way smaller number of tens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► are gonna ship in 2017 so it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► not good but I do like the fact that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► least we got a little bit of help from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► the people buying aids yeah but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't count on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► too much actually helping yeah we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3002">TS</a>]

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00:50:16 ◼   ► sites are incredibly easy to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► will wonder why you ever made a site any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► other way and there was a time when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► made sense that time was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► Squarespace but now we have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► options now there's no reason to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► your own CMS or G's even write your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► CMS if you're a nerd like me there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► pretty much no need for that for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► 99% of websites you can just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► Squarespace and it is so easy to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► tools are drag-and-drop and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► live previews everything is what you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► is what you get it's all rich text it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► amazingly easy to create the site you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► want Squarespace whether that's a blog a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► portfolio a store a podcast and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3056">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► are not you know stores and podcasts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► not hard or they're not easy things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► host but Squarespace makes them easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► you they have all this functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► built in it's really quite incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► what you can do is wear space in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► just a few clicks no matter what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► skill level is making websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► Squarespace is also a great option if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► somebody has asked you to make a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► for them not only can you do it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► but even better you couldn't show them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► Squarespace maybe you can get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► started spend like 20 minutes setting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25 ◼   ► up for them just for just to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► easier and easier sell for them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► you can show them look you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► yourself you don't need me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33 ◼   ► you're off the hook for making it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► off the hook for supporting it you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► hand it over to them and if they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► any help at all and honestly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► probably won't because Squarespace is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► easy but that they need any help at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► Squarespace supports it so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► it's a wonderful setup I highly suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► it so check out today whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► making a site for you or someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► Squarespace is almost definitely the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► to go for pretty much anything you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► to do so check it out today at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► squarespace.com with a free trial site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► you can see for yourself without paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► anything how good it is enter offer code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► ATP when you do checkout to get 10% off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► make your next move so I was wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► this is this is probably our last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► to talk about the 10 or speculate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it before there's actual press reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► out I would guess is there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► about listed John you mentioned earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► that like you know the biggest risk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► the for Apple of the 10 is that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► some kind of problem where it isn't very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► good or isn't very compelling after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► what do you think the biggest risks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► for it like like what what's that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► are the biggest ways that this might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► pan out so I mean the the big ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► a lot of the prices talk about his face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► ID and I think that is again not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► having ever tried it and not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► not getting much information of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► people who did a face ID doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► well enough like you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► if it has to be as good as touch ID out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► of the gate but it has to be close like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► if let's put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► what did use a bad analogy that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► make everyone said if face ID works like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► Siri it will be a bad scene cuz cuz Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► does work and you can demo it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► does cool things but for the unlocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► your phone if face I'd be like falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► below some minimum threshold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► convenience people unlock their phones a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► lot and I think a lot of people lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► their phones now like we're not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► old days where you just slide to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► people have codes on their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► they're used to touch ID touch ID is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► amazing and works great face ID has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► minimum bar that has to reach so if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► doesn't reach that that is a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► because no one wants to get a phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► just really be annoyed every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► have to unlock it and the second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► is app updates you have to update your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► app to be able to snoop around your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► corners and the home line thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► knotch and obviously I listed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► probably in the order that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► annoying like you would think the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► is the problem but having seen overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► and simulator slingshots and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► like it seems clear the rounded corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► are a much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► than you think if you're not if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► haven't consider how you're gonna fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► your app into that because it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► does cut off a lot of things and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► updating apps how fast the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► gonna do it if you buy a new phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► face I'd be works great but every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► you put on it looks all weird and janky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► and goes crazy and landscape even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► it's not quote-unquote the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► problem like oh the phone is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► nothing wrong with the phone people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► have a bad impression I waited all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► time I stay up to 3:00 a.m. I spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► $1,200 and as a reward all my apps look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► and work weird on this phone those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► the two that occurred to me right off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► setting aside like all the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► exploded there's some kind of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► reliability problem or you know all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► stuff that can happen with any phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► the things that are unique to the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► face ID and app updates I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► I am super curious to see real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► reviews of face ID because I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► it's going to be as good as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► promises but I'm scared and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3295">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► I've talked to friends at Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► have used them and and and they all say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► no really it's amazing but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► yeah I I want to I want to have a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► party tell me what they think and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► cautiously optimistic that it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► very good and I think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► pretty darn amazing I think the face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► is the most obvious stumbling block that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► could happen but I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► obvious obvious stumbling block that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► will happen is what John said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► third-party apps that they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► updated in timely fashion or not updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► well or whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► and I think that's the thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► going to be most telling and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► whenever these reviews come out we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► see if though if their reviewers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► run into a lot of that yeah I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► guys pretty much covered what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► gonna say too like apps I think are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► biggest thing I worry about and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► just like how many apps will be there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► on day one because I think the answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► that is probably gonna be not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► okay there's gonna be some but probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► not enough I don't even know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► probably not gonna make day one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► overcast Bay because I just keep running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► into really annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► you eye issues that are you know some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► which are my fault many of us are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► fault from like you know technical debt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► that I'm still repaying and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► get rid of over my previous UI hacks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► some of which are just the iPhone being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► harder to work with the night that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► predicted and the UI being harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► manage I'm predicted but ultimately the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► biggest problem with apps is gonna is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► first it's gonna be when the apps get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► letterboxed like I've seen a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► running simulator tricks to kind of show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► like what apps look like when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► not updated for the iPhone 10 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► they're running on the iPhone 10 size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► screen and they just look ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► like it's almost as if they look almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► like when the iPad first came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► you could run iPhone apps in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► tiny window like in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► iPad yep it almost looks at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► ridiculous like they just run in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► tiny little area in the middle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► these giant black bars letterboxing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► top and bottom of the phone it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► really bad and this is not just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► recompile with a bigger storyboard like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► this is a this is a large undertaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► for a lot of apps best-case scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► even for very simply designed apps even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► apps that use very standard stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► make it very easy to convert even they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► typically have to spend like at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► couple days on this update you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► a it's a significant change that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► of things have to do to adapt to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► screen because it's so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► it isn't just like the same properties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► but bigger it's you know there's no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► corners and now the bottom is not solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► and you can't really put anything there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► and you should probably take gestures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► away from being near it and the top is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► giant but you can't put anything there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► and you should take just like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► there's all sorts of and when you rotate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► the phone if you happen to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► landscape in your app you have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► something on almost every screen of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► app and that may be difficult or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► depending if like if you use table views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► and you use background things in table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► chances are you have work to do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► there's so many little and big design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► changes and technical changes your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► now has to do and to give up a credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► like the API for all the safe area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► and stuff is remarkably complete and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► remarkably useful for a compliment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► accommodating the knotch and the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► insects the notch creates especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► landscape mode like the API is good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► we still have to use it we still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► do it and work on it and redesign things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► and move things and test things and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► just proving to be a ton of work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► almost every developer I've talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► about it so I would not expect many apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► to be updated soon and and no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► like even even if the apps you use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► the most part are by really on the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► developers who we're really gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► there on day one and be ready you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► still probably gonna use a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► apps throughout your day-to-day life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► that aren't gonna be updated for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► so you're gonna have those giant ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► black bars on top and bottom for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► time and you know depending on what apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► you use but like you're gonna see this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► lot for a while and it's gonna be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► gonna be annoying for you for owners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► the 10-4 for a while the other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► that I worry with the 10 quite how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► of iOS has been rooted in the idea for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► long time that you you can always reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► things in the top bar of an app and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► some extent the bottom bars of an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42 ◼   ► like you know but you know button bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► toolbars tab bars and with the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► it is a very different aspect ratio than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50 ◼   ► any other iPhones or iOS devices have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► ever been and it is very very tall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► skinny if you have trouble reaching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► autumn of a screen on my phone plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► you're definitely gonna have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► problems reaching top and bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► screen on the iPhone 10 and so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► iOS has been built on the assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► that you can put pretty frequently used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► buttons and things in bars on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► and bottom of the interface that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► when you account for the in sets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► the knotch and from the home indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► area on the bottom the things are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► gonna be really hard to reach for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► of people and apps will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► change from this like the plus phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33 ◼   ► encourage apps to change to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► from this but it's it wasn't quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► bad and you could cut you could that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► could still say well if you have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► big hands you're buying the plus or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► you don't mind using two hand you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► buying the plus but oh well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► that's just because you're buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► plus you can deal with it but now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► this is going to be like the mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► power user phone and also the plus kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► of already has been becoming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► honestly for about the last year year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► and a half or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► so apps have to totally rethink their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► interaction models to try to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► requiring use of the top and bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► the screen because those are gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► way harder to reach from way more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► now than they were before the OS in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:14 ◼   ► general is gonna have to do that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► like iOS is going to have to change a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► lot of its own standards and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► its own app designs to to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► accommodate this and that's all gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► take time it's gonna take years so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► think you know the overall bullet point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► here of risks to the iPhone tens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► reception and to the quality of using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► one for the next you know a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► the overall heading there is apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► that's way bigger and potentially way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► long are ticket right you might find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► really annoying to use apps on it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► things are better designed for it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► that's a pretty big sticking point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► only other thing I would think of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► battery life the battery life is a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► question mark because we've never had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► oled iphone i've seen you're the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► person I've seen worried about battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► life but I didn't listen on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► because this is the phone that they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► has two hours more battery life so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► if they're off it still has better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► battery life than the seven right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► could be worse than seven well the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:15 ◼   ► they measure battery life is useless for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► real-world use it's it always has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► whatever measure they use for battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► life does not reflect the way anyone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► know uses their phones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► proportionately this they said the 7 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► better than the 6 and it was right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► was yes but it also the battery also got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► bigger and so it was basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► roughly the same type of components that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► we've always known but bigger right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► so it kind of made sense that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► happened light wasn't a big surprise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► it depends on how they're measuring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► like if they're measuring by talktime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► tests a web browsing loop things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► that they optimize for that and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► can design the phone to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► responsible in what they consider those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► typical uses but then if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► something on your phone that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► typically used so for instance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► crazy new processor with the six cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► that can now all be on at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► if they want to if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02 ◼   ► something that's processor intensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► that's probably a pretty high power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► usage ceiling that the processor can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► have and while they're doing whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► they're doing with their battery tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► they might be not setting it that way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► not not using the processor in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► but if you do something that use it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► way you're gonna have very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► results similar like their tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► probably have yeah they probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► use GPS they probably don't use you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► heavy cellular data or roaming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► anything else like there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► things it can be different there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► also just the the nature of how our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► usage from an OLED screen where now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► screen can not only the screen use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► probably less power overall when it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► the screen uses a varying amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► power based on how brightly the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► are lit up so if you have like black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► pixels that are effectively off with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► OLED that's going to use less power than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► if you have white pixels that are lit up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► all the way that's different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► way LCDs have always worked so like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► way the iPhone 10 will use its battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► and the variation that you will have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► don't really know the answer to that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► we're like we're not going to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► until we have a few months of using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► to really get a feel for like how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► battery behaves and the way Apple quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► the battery time I think is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13 ◼   ► meaningless for how that will work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► practice because this is these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► new components with all new profiles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► how they use power that I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► can really say for sure how it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► to work I don't think it's meaningless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► and I think the OLED screen even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► it was 100% white all the time would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► tire beat in LCD like that's the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31 ◼   ► of oh it's the that's why it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► watch it's lower power even if the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► turned on that's my impression anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► I'm like I said I'm not worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► battery life I mean if the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► explode that's a problem but battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► life wise even if it doesn't meet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► extra two hours I feel like it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► better than the seven as long as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► better than the seven people will like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► it because you know it's like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► you're replacing your phone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► battery that it's gone through several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► charge cycles so it's already kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► crappy with a new battery and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► battery gets more battery life I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► think it'll be fine I'm optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► battery life to go back a step to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► marco was saying part of the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► worries me about app support is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06 ◼   ► nobody can get their hands on one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► these in the first place I can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► developers and get their hands on one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► these it's like an exacerbation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► there's that there's it's a two pronged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► issue one of them is that almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► iOS app like Marco was saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► designed for top based navigation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► know your back buttons are at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► your create a new thing like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► message and messages or whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► typically at the top all of that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► need to shimmy down which is in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► cases are really really deep and wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► update like that's rethinking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► entire apps architecture and on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► that if you don't have a real test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► device for months I mean we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► saying we're planning it with planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► on waking up at 3 in the morning and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► don't think that will necessarily get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► our phones until 2018 like that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► be a big darn problem I'm optimistic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► hope that it'll work out just fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► hope that I'll get my iPhone a week from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01 ◼   ► Friday but you know like III I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► we're we're raining on everyone's parade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► and that's I don't think that's anyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► intention we're hopeful that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► work out for the best it's just there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► a lot of signs you know the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► 8-balls saying this is going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:14 ◼   ► interesting rollout and it's gonna be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► interesting first few months with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► let me tell you I'm still super amped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► and in March of 2018 when I finally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► my phone I'm super amped to unlock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► with just my face like I'm excited yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► and the other thing about about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► developer thing too is like keep in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33 ◼   ► like exacerbating the apps problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► that developers won't have these phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► for a while as you said which means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► there's immense pressure on us from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► users and from Apple to update our apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► for the iPhone 10 like yesterday like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► have this needs to be done now now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► this is immense pressure on us to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► our apps for a phone that will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► handle pretty differently than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► that we have used before that does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► deserves significant redesign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► consideration that we have to design for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► without ever holding it and sure we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► change it later but like the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► batch of updates for the iPhone 10 might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► not be good oh it's gonna be really hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16 ◼   ► or miss because almost all of them will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► have been designed and developed without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► any without that the designer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► developer having access to one so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► all gonna be just it's gonna be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► very first wave of iPad and Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► designs when those came out is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► really hit or miss because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32 ◼   ► mostly developed in the simulator so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35 ◼   ► somebody put out numbers the nikkei [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:39 ◼   ► reporter so that was it a newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41 ◼   ► website I don't even know but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► this is their speculation obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► from Apple but they're saying 20 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► iPhones between now and the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► year and you're like oh that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50 ◼   ► it's a lot right but last year between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► October and December Apple shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► almost 80 million so that's a factor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► four if these if this guests estimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► from you know these third-party people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02 ◼   ► with knowledge of the supply chain bail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► bonds right but not like we're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05 ◼   ► there's gonna be twenty percent fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► phones and last year whatever four times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► fewer and again maybe the i8 buyers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► gonna help with that but I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► they're gonna help Forex so I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► hope I really hope these numbers aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► right because that is really grim yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► hear that you know with the graph of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► like how bad is it going to be in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:25 ◼   ► of pre-order times I also hope that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► number of people who are awake at 3:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31 ◼   ► a.m. exactly hammering on their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33 ◼   ► to try to order another phone is itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► smaller still like that you're what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39 ◼   ► you're really getting to are the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► like this is the type of thing where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:42 ◼   ► like where the people who are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► do the ridiculous thing to lose sleep to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► set their alarm for to 55 to do all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► stuff that there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52 ◼   ► a small number of them the numbers get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► bigger the people who want to order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► next morning and then bigger still for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:58 ◼   ► the people to the next day and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► so forth so you can be you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► if you want the best chance to get it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► soon as possible then just do it we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► and as many people point out and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► have gone through this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:09 ◼   ► very often the barrier is not your CDN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► updating in Marco's case where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► doesn't even get to see the phone when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15 ◼   ► his app until it's too late or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► Store crapping out which happens but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► various points during the purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► process depending on what you buy it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► need to contact your carrier service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26 ◼   ► the carrier stock in the US so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► where your entire order process goes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► the rails because their servers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33 ◼   ► unresponsive and while you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► get through that phase where it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36 ◼   ► contact Verizon or whatever all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► phones have been ordered and by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39 ◼   ► you get through that now you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► your ship date is February 21st and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► so that's not one of the strategies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► people suggested is by the one without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► sim so you never have to kind of tack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49 ◼   ► the carrier but I don't know like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51 ◼   ► chipset to Marco's point that thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► gonna use that does get around it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► problem is that's exactly what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► want to do when they're scalping them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► Apple does not usually make the sim free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► version available for a high-demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► phone on day one they usually wait a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► weeks or months and then they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► available but then the people go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► t-mobile one you go to t-mobile is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► doesn't contact their site but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► get a different chip set that loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13 ◼   ► different radio bands and it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15 ◼   ► all very fraught and confusing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► I don't know I've never done this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► so I can't say but I'm not optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► yeah I have a feeling that because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► I'm trying to do is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► scalpers try to do I'm probably gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► have to just go to the stores a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► just try to get lucky that way yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► you're using using the the senior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► citizen advantage which is like I'm home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► during the day suckers well you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► at work and I can just come there every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► day and go hey how you doing it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► again any handy phones well the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► thing is I'm now getting allergy shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► twice a week at a building next door to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► an Apple store twice a week what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► what are you curing yourself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► allergies from allergies everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4255">TS</a>]

01:11:00 ◼   ► pollen everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► darlin ragweed not dogs fortunately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► cats you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05 ◼   ► but whose rabbit it's mostly the pollen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► in the ragweed which makes pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► seasonal allergies but no fortunately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► have a hypoallergenic dog and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► wonderful and I could put my face in him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► and have no problems but if he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► rabbit I would have problems because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► rabbits are kind of like cats but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► they're constantly moving so they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► cloud of allergies around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► constantly it's awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► yeah so if I could show up early to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► allergy shot like twice a week I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► to an Apple store like 8:00 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► morning maybe 9:00 in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► you know I'll see like I'm sure it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► gonna work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34 ◼   ► during the first week or two but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► during week three you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► probably gonna work before my 3:00 a.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:40 ◼   ► order will be delivered yeah my iPhone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► I seem to recall it was a it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► in-person wander by thing I wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► subaru either but it was the same deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► that jet blacks were hard to get I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51 ◼   ► didn't even bother trying to get early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► on and I think it did a lot of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► we're in the mall I stopped by the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► Store and see what they've got I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58 ◼   ► remember if that's where I bought or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► but that is it that is a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01 ◼   ► reason Apple stores do get shipments in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03 ◼   ► like I don't know a weekly daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► whenever they get them daily usually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► them they get a small number but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► happen to be the person who wanders into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10 ◼   ► the store when that small number appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12 ◼   ► you are like in a mini line that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► consists of the people who happen to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► in the Apple store at the moment the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17 ◼   ► shipment comes in and that line is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► surer than the line we're all gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► in at 3:00 a.m. trying to get in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22 ◼   ► giant queue with the entire world to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► a phone shipped to us in February so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► it'll be it's not gonna be fun I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31 ◼   ► able to be fun but no it's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32 ◼   ► fun it's gonna be a slog but we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► eventually get this phone and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36 ◼   ► what all of my concerns aside ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39 ◼   ► I am very excited to get this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41 ◼   ► that's why we're all waiting for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► because like if it's good which Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► you know for all their problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49 ◼   ► Macs recently their record with iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51 ◼   ► is pretty solid like they usually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53 ◼   ► have major issues sometimes they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55 ◼   ► minor issues they don't usually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► major issues the likelihood that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00 ◼   ► gonna be as described and gonna be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03 ◼   ► is pretty high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:04 ◼   ► and if that's true this is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► great because it'll finally be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09 ◼   ► nice middle ground between the iPhone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12 ◼   ► and the iPhone plus that we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15 ◼   ► waiting for for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17 ◼   ► and and to have like you know the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18 ◼   ► cameras in the quote medium-sized phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:22 ◼   ► you know that even though it's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24 ◼   ► but to have that would be great to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26 ◼   ► a bigger screen and the smaller body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27 ◼   ► will be great like there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29 ◼   ► asterisks on this there's a lot of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32 ◼   ► know things were having to give up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► get this but if it works out it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:37 ◼   ► be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► so I am I'm tentatively optimistic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► think it's probably gonna end up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43 ◼   ► great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44 ◼   ► we're probably gonna look back all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45 ◼   ► worries and laugh at how ridiculous they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► were and I hope it turned out that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49 ◼   ► I hope so but I think I think what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:53 ◼   ► gonna end up happening is I'll get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54 ◼   ► iPhone in December January and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:58 ◼   ► get yours in about a week by going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00 ◼   ► the store every single day yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► what I that's my wager we are sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► this week by fracture who prints photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► in vivid color directly on glass go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12 ◼   ► fracture me calm slash podcast to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► more get 10% off your first order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16 ◼   ► fracture is a photo decor company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19 ◼   ► is out to rescue your favorite images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21 ◼   ► from the digital ether they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:24 ◼   ► most people you see the pictures you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:25 ◼   ► take of your life your memories your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28 ◼   ► family maybe they see these pictures for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31 ◼   ► a day at best in a social media feed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:34 ◼   ► then they just disappear off the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36 ◼   ► of the feed and you pretty much never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► see them again take your favorite photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39 ◼   ► and get them printed and fracture is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41 ◼   ► great way to do that fracture prints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43 ◼   ► photos directly onto glass it goes edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46 ◼   ► to edge it looks nice and clean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► modern you don't frame them or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50 ◼   ► they are their own complete objects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► they come ready to display right out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54 ◼   ► the box they even include a wall anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► if you need that all you have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58 ◼   ► upload your digital photo and pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00 ◼   ► size you want printed it is that simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► the fracture printing process really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► makes the colors pop and the contrast it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05 ◼   ► really looks great and that sleek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07 ◼   ► frameless design really matches any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09 ◼   ► decorating style and really let your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11 ◼   ► photo stand out so bring your special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13 ◼   ► memories to life give them as unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:14 ◼   ► gifts or decorate your home with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16 ◼   ► moments that tell your story if actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► make wonderful gifts we've given lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4517">TS</a>]

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01:15:22 ◼   ► it compliments both from people who see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24 ◼   ► them in our house and people who've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► received them as gifts people love these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4525">TS</a>]

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01:16:06 ◼   ► of things that are that are positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:10 ◼   ► yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► apparently back many still thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:15 ◼   ► maybe here's the bad so do you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:19 ◼   ► Tim Cook statement handy doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:22 ◼   ► can you read the statement just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► record I'm glad you love Mac Mini why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:28 ◼   ► it never the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29 ◼   ► that's a stereo everything I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:32 ◼   ► just and for context listeners this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► a neat so somebody emailed Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► asking about the future the Mac Mini and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38 ◼   ► got this response that allegedly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40 ◼   ► then it was posted to my comers looming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42 ◼   ► so what was going on so I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45 ◼   ► love Mac Mini we love it too our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47 ◼   ► customers have found so many creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49 ◼   ► and interesting uses for Mac Mini well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51 ◼   ► it is not the time to share any details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53 ◼   ► we do plan for Mac Mini to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:56 ◼   ► important part of our product line going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4618">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► best Tim yeah so all the websites took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:03 ◼   ► this to mean Tim Cook confirms the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06 ◼   ► minis not dead that they're working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08 ◼   ► new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:09 ◼   ► when I read this I was less optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12 ◼   ► or at least I found this to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15 ◼   ► relatively content free almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18 ◼   ► the words that Tim wrote back allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20 ◼   ► don't mean anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21 ◼   ► our non-committal you know PR CEO speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:25 ◼   ► BS and the few words that mean something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28 ◼   ► were so vague and so non-committal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:33 ◼   ► what he could mean is we're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:38 ◼   ► keep selling it like it is now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40 ◼   ► that's all he really said it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:44 ◼   ► thing in the line like when they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:47 ◼   ► that wonderful statement during the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► Pro roundtable last spring where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► some lines of that Mac Mini remains a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53 ◼   ► product in our lineup it was like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55 ◼   ► the best things I've ever said like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57 ◼   ► this is this is about the same like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00 ◼   ► don't think this is saying anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02 ◼   ► about future updates like I think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05 ◼   ► bet you're bending yourself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:06 ◼   ► pretzels to try to make it this seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08 ◼   ► like the same it's not the same they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10 ◼   ► said they said you know not time did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12 ◼   ► time to share any details if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► gonna be the same there's no details to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:15 ◼   ► share not that there's much information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17 ◼   ► abut the one piece of information is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19 ◼   ► an official confirmation from the CEO of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:20 ◼   ► Apple that they plan to share some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:25 ◼   ► details related to the Mac Mini in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28 ◼   ► future which means as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:29 ◼   ► concerned like if this was the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31 ◼   ► what we'd be saying is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32 ◼   ► confirmation the Mac Pro is not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33 ◼   ► right they might as well have said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:37 ◼   ► gonna come out with a new thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:40 ◼   ► people who like to make them anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42 ◼   ► didn't even say it was gonna be a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► Mac maybe who knows but discuss that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45 ◼   ► right but but the whole point is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47 ◼   ► like the they like there's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49 ◼   ► there's not gonna fade away like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51 ◼   ► not making the Mac Mini any more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► we're gonna sell this one until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54 ◼   ► becomes really embarrassing then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:55 ◼   ► stop like they're planning on doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56 ◼   ► the Mac Pro sell it and pick it until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58 ◼   ► becomes embarrassing and then just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4738">TS</a>]

01:18:59 ◼   ► it fade away and replace it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:00 ◼   ► iMac Pro or whatever right that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02 ◼   ► plan for the Mac Pro until I turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04 ◼   ► around this email does not have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07 ◼   ► content but the one bit of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:08 ◼   ► it has is does the Mac Mini have future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11 ◼   ► yes no answer yes ish like again they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:15 ◼   ► don't say math committee but the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17 ◼   ► was asking about the Mac Mini and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19 ◼   ► answer is just wait we'll have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:23 ◼   ► and so I think at least Tim believes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25 ◼   ► the person who likes the Mac Mini will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28 ◼   ► be interested in this future thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:29 ◼   ► it's got to be something Mac Mini ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:32 ◼   ► and that's not a lot of information like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34 ◼   ► what do you expect like it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35 ◼   ► tell you a date and yes we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37 ◼   ► the Mac Mini or yes we're gonna replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39 ◼   ► it like whatever but it's more than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41 ◼   ► had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:42 ◼   ► it's from the horse's mouth and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44 ◼   ► take that if I was a big fan of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46 ◼   ► Mini I would be excited now to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48 ◼   ► that computer line is not 100% dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:51 ◼   ► there's two parts of Tim's wording here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► that actually mean anything at all Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56 ◼   ► does not time to share any detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58 ◼   ► this implies there will be a time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:01 ◼   ► future where something is shared so not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03 ◼   ► a time in the past space is another time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:04 ◼   ► machine it will have to be a time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05 ◼   ► future and he will share details details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07 ◼   ► about what it's details that this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09 ◼   ► who sent this email apparently would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10 ◼   ► interested in this person wants a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11 ◼   ► Mini right so well so what that Clause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:15 ◼   ► means is there may come a time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17 ◼   ► future where there's something to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19 ◼   ► the only other part of this that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21 ◼   ► anything is important we tube we do plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:26 ◼   ► for the Mac Mini to be an important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28 ◼   ► of our product line going forward but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:29 ◼   ► the problem with that when a CEO says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:32 ◼   ► important it's like when it's like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34 ◼   ► call is important to us like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36 ◼   ► complete BS they do not mean it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:39 ◼   ► saying that to please you that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:42 ◼   ► mean anything when you remove the BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► speak from this all it really says is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:48 ◼   ► plan for the Mac Mini to be part of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49 ◼   ► product line go in the future going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51 ◼   ► forward like that's it that's all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52 ◼   ► says yeah but but like I said don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55 ◼   ► any share right now we will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:56 ◼   ► something to share later and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► product doesn't change there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:58 ◼   ► to share if there's something to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:00 ◼   ► that means there's news that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► there's news that Mac many owners want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► any obvious news is there's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05 ◼   ► man you make money Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:06 ◼   ► so basically I think part one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► skepticism on this is I don't think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:13 ◼   ► email says anything real I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16 ◼   ► a hundred percent fluff and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18 ◼   ► there's no meat to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20 ◼   ► I completely agree 100% it's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23 ◼   ► it's one percent a promise that the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25 ◼   ► Mini is not dead as a line yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27 ◼   ► we've hear Tim Cook you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29 ◼   ► make that declaration in an email to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:30 ◼   ► some Rando you're gonna make it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32 ◼   ► sure you know like I think that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34 ◼   ► minimum the minimum amount that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36 ◼   ► there's nothing else he can say that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39 ◼   ► can't just say what Phil said but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► remains a product in our lineup because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:42 ◼   ► that would be taken like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:43 ◼   ► answering at all if you answer with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44 ◼   ► that's taken as a confirmation that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► dead because if he can't bring himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► to say his you know patented Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► just stay tuned we're really excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► about blah blah blah future blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54 ◼   ► blah nothing to share today like he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56 ◼   ► that all the time that's his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► stick if he can't bring himself to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► that and he actually replies and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► remains a product than our lineup that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► means it's dead so he has to either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05 ◼   ► reply which would be the smart thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07 ◼   ► do or reply and say no we're gonna it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► we're gonna do a thing and he gives his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► little answer about you know nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16 ◼   ► share today that means there'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► something to share like that and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20 ◼   ► you know you could say 90% BS and 90% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► content free but that one little nugget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24 ◼   ► like I said if I was a Big Mac Mini fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26 ◼   ► that would make me very excited because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27 ◼   ► I feel like it was unambiguous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29 ◼   ► unambiguous that Tim Cook thinks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31 ◼   ► same way by the way that they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:32 ◼   ► said we have you know Mac Pro users we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34 ◼   ► have something you'll be excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35 ◼   ► and they meant the iMac Pro and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37 ◼   ► can still be disappointed but like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39 ◼   ► was hoping they would you know keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:40 ◼   ► Mac Pro but it turns out the thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42 ◼   ► thought we would be excited about is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:43 ◼   ► iMac Pro and kind of be excited about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46 ◼   ► but it would still be not as good as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:47 ◼   ► real Mac Pro right so there's still room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49 ◼   ► for Mac Mini owners to be disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51 ◼   ► but that's that you know that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► lot in life right isn't it yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:55 ◼   ► always been a disappointing part okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► anyway I think I think it's not that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01 ◼   ► part one of my disappointment with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03 ◼   ► was you know Tim's fluffy language when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► when Tim says things because interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:07 ◼   ► I don't even watch them or care because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09 ◼   ► there's so little content really he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11 ◼   ► guarded he's so careful that you see no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13 ◼   ► personality you get no real ideas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► anything so I don't anyway so I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► put anything into his words the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20 ◼   ► thing to worry about is do we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:23 ◼   ► today's Apple redesigning the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► like when they last did it in 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:32 ◼   ► yeah when in 2014 they basically took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34 ◼   ► 2012 model and made it worse what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► they do if today's Apple redesigned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:40 ◼   ► Mac Mini because what everyone wants is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42 ◼   ► one thing what everyone wants is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► maybe bring back the quad-core option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:46 ◼   ► that used to have maybe bring back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48 ◼   ► user replaceable upgradable hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:51 ◼   ► and socketed RAM like things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53 ◼   ► would be great because this is a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55 ◼   ► that appeals to low-end and budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:58 ◼   ► conscious buyers more than their other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00 ◼   ► machines so like that matters like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► upgrade ability and repair ability over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► time that matters more on this machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► than on probably and any of their other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08 ◼   ► machines and they made it worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► substantially in the 2012 update so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► Pete when people say when an updated Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16 ◼   ► Mini I think number one what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18 ◼   ► is upgraded components that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:19 ◼   ► nice to have like you know modern and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► processor than everything but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► they're also thinking of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24 ◼   ► redesign and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:25 ◼   ► their idea of what they wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26 ◼   ► like mackaninee users use them as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:29 ◼   ► primary computers generally want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30 ◼   ► upgradability Apple commentators like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► there was great a great segment an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► upgrade this week and we're Jason still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► argues that it should be more like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38 ◼   ► Intel nook the NUC however that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► pronounced where it's like the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:41 ◼   ► an Apple TV so it's like you know take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► the Mac Mini and make it even smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► make it had even less components and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46 ◼   ► upgradability it even fewer ports you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:49 ◼   ► know things of that I also don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51 ◼   ► Mac many owners are looking for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► I think if Apple did redesign the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:55 ◼   ► Mini today it would be more like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:58 ◼   ► would be like let's make it even smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► let's give it all USB seaports you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02 ◼   ► like take away all the usefulness of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04 ◼   ► keep the same high price maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05 ◼   ► increase the price of it with today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07 ◼   ► Apple and now you have less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► upgradability than even before in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11 ◼   ► 2012 in the 2014 revision like do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13 ◼   ► think today's Apple would actually issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:16 ◼   ► an update to the Mac Mini that Mac many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18 ◼   ► buyers would be happy with I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► very unlikely I think you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23 ◼   ► dancing around this article that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24 ◼   ► haven't read in the show notes which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:25 ◼   ► by ricardo mori who who offers three he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► categorized three possibilities for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32 ◼   ► future of the Mac Mini or things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:34 ◼   ► many people might like and you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36 ◼   ► covered two of them but just to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► was the link in the show notes to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39 ◼   ► this article which is longer the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41 ◼   ► option is it's the same Mac minis you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► see today but it has upgraded internals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45 ◼   ► which is like the minimum they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47 ◼   ► write better CPUs GPUs faster SSD like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:51 ◼   ► you all the things you expect do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53 ◼   ► know USB C ports on the back but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55 ◼   ► but otherwise it's the same and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57 ◼   ► a price bump because why not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► second option is the Apple TV sighs Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02 ◼   ► Mini right it's it's smaller it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► know like as lower power stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:10 ◼   ► in both senses but it's like the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12 ◼   ► a hockey puck so a whole new realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► things becomes possible like the Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► nook like the Apple TV you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► the second option and the third option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20 ◼   ► which you didn't mention because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22 ◼   ► know I think this is probably the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24 ◼   ► likely is that it's basically the X Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:28 ◼   ► or the poor man's Mac Pro it is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:31 ◼   ► modular computer but that it goes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:34 ◼   ► upmarket in terms of power like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:38 ◼   ► you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:38 ◼   ► I'm AK possesses you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40 ◼   ► screen but you also don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41 ◼   ► bazillion dollar Mac Pro you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44 ◼   ► desktop Mac that is nevertheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:45 ◼   ► configurable and you can put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47 ◼   ► powerful stuff in it and then you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49 ◼   ► have to say it's upgradable maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:50 ◼   ► not upgradable at all maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51 ◼   ► totally you know but but it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53 ◼   ► faster like it's actually got some fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55 ◼   ► processes and a fast it's like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57 ◼   ► mini speed demo again this is the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:58 ◼   ► option all of these are small computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:02 ◼   ► they're small computers that do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:03 ◼   ► a screen it's not a laptop but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05 ◼   ► like it's like three sizes you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07 ◼   ► got the the current size which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09 ◼   ► is actually kind of gross like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11 ◼   ► flat and wide I kind of not that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14 ◼   ► the taller skinnier one but I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16 ◼   ► things to get wider or like I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17 ◼   ► limits useless but anyway you got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19 ◼   ► form factor you've got the hockey puck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:20 ◼   ► and that presumably the DX Mac or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:23 ◼   ► poor man's Mac Pro would be bigger still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25 ◼   ► than the current one and these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:29 ◼   ► options are not equally likely you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31 ◼   ► like you said about the puck like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33 ◼   ► really wants that and it's extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35 ◼   ► limiting the the X macro poor minds Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► Pro is just not gonna happen like give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40 ◼   ► up you know that's why the X Mac will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:44 ◼   ► never you know that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:45 ◼   ► enthusiasts want they don't want and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47 ◼   ► that leaves the first one where it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:48 ◼   ► new Mac Mini with updated internals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:51 ◼   ► maybe it changes size in some small way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53 ◼   ► because they can make it smaller now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54 ◼   ► it's not hockey puck sighs you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:58 ◼   ► and I guess there's you know fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:01 ◼   ► option or whatever that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► something entirely crazy like that's by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04 ◼   ► the way the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► both seem to induce this in people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09 ◼   ► they start to get the idea like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:10 ◼   ► it was like a bunch of Mac minis you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12 ◼   ► could combine them and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:13 ◼   ► combine forces like Voltron and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:16 ◼   ► use some sort of magic technology to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19 ◼   ► distribute computing across them and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21 ◼   ► you just added more Mac minis that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:22 ◼   ► get fast there and all sorts of fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23 ◼   ► scenarios that are like this is not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26 ◼   ► is not the 90s this is not at the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► that made a duo doc like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:30 ◼   ► going to happen this is not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:32 ◼   ► important product you could technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34 ◼   ► do some of these things but you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37 ◼   ► the Mac Mini it gets is the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39 ◼   ► investment of any Mac so you should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41 ◼   ► hope that they updated that the price is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:44 ◼   ► not too obscene and that is good to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46 ◼   ► for another three years I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48 ◼   ► the best you can hope for and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:49 ◼   ► that's what's going to happen yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51 ◼   ► think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:52 ◼   ► kind of sad though that we the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54 ◼   ► that we think is the most likely is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:57 ◼   ► probably what the fewest Mac many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:58 ◼   ► customers are asking for or want yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01 ◼   ► think so I do I mean like so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► the OP the most likely one obviously is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:05 ◼   ► the one where they make it even smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07 ◼   ► and remove even more from oh no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:09 ◼   ► think the most likely one is they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:10 ◼   ► update the internals they could still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:11 ◼   ► make it smaller but it's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:12 ◼   ► puck I don't think the puck is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14 ◼   ► likely one at all I think it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:15 ◼   ► still it's still a silver box it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17 ◼   ► has different ports in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► internals that I think that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:20 ◼   ► likely that so based on what what modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:24 ◼   ► Apple would do and what modern Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► would you know should do I think making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30 ◼   ► it better making it more more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:34 ◼   ► more expandable more upgradable that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:37 ◼   ► not going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:38 ◼   ► I think the best we can hope for is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40 ◼   ► they keep it the same and just update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:41 ◼   ► the guts so and it's it's really telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:45 ◼   ► to consider that is that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:49 ◼   ► hoping for here is like please Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51 ◼   ► don't touch it too much like please like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53 ◼   ► touch it a little bit like give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55 ◼   ► upgrade of great opponents but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:57 ◼   ► feel like you know going back to going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59 ◼   ► back to my argument I think last show or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00 ◼   ► the one before about about Apple lacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02 ◼   ► confidence in its design it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:05 ◼   ► Apple refuses to update a product where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:11 ◼   ► it's just a speck bump a lot of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13 ◼   ► you know the Mac Pro famously was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15 ◼   ► updated after it was released the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► laptops before that had had wide long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20 ◼   ► spans or like they could have upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:21 ◼   ► CPUs but they didn't the Mac Mini is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:25 ◼   ► the clearest example yet of that now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27 ◼   ► the current lineup because I'd consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29 ◼   ► the Mac Pro not in the current lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31 ◼   ► even though it's definitely for sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:32 ◼   ► anyway III think Apple needs to get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35 ◼   ► this this insecurity or this roadblock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► they have in their head that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40 ◼   ► update has to be some kind of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43 ◼   ► external design or mind blowing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45 ◼   ► because that is important for some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47 ◼   ► their products I'd say you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49 ◼   ► iPhone is the biggest example where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:50 ◼   ► you know the market really values that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:52 ◼   ► but there are a lot of products they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:53 ◼   ► sell where the market doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55 ◼   ► care about that so much and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:58 ◼   ► alternative to having a fancy new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01 ◼   ► external design on a regular basis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:04 ◼   ► never getting an update of any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06 ◼   ► then you know Apple needs to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:07 ◼   ► really consider what that says about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:10 ◼   ► them and what kind of computer company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:13 ◼   ► they want to be if they still want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:14 ◼   ► a computer company please for the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► of God please I mean jeez it's a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► question these days but like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21 ◼   ► totally fine for the Mac Mini to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:24 ◼   ► updates where the external design does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26 ◼   ► not change like the market like an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:30 ◼   ► should be confident enough to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:33 ◼   ► update it without without saying well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:36 ◼   ► can't do anything big so we should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38 ◼   ► wait until we can cuz that's not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40 ◼   ► not how computers work like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:43 ◼   ► how people buy computers that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45 ◼   ► it's not what anybody wants didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47 ◼   ► just do two updates so the Mac Mini like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:49 ◼   ► that though the last two updates have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► been form-factor doesn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► internals get quote unquote better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54 ◼   ► the first 2012 one is they didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► better so like I feel like the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57 ◼   ► if only because they don't want to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00 ◼   ► the money to design and do new tooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02 ◼   ► for a new thing and to be clear I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:04 ◼   ► it is entirely possible the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:05 ◼   ► will get smaller I'm just saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07 ◼   ► not gonna become something the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:08 ◼   ► the Apple TV like not gonna become super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► duper small because to do that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12 ◼   ► have to you'd have to really cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:14 ◼   ► power on it like it would have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:16 ◼   ► way slower than it is you can't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18 ◼   ► right maybe it wouldn't maybe we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:19 ◼   ► say the same speed as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:20 ◼   ► three-year-olds computer but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► point is people want a bump because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23 ◼   ► want a Mac Mini that is more capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:25 ◼   ► than the current one and if you just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:27 ◼   ► ok well how about if it's the same speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29 ◼   ► it's the size of a hockey puck I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► they can make it smaller maybe not make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33 ◼   ► it so darn wide and have a smaller case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35 ◼   ► but it should be faster than the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► if they introduced a new Mac Mini that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39 ◼   ► is not faster than the old one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:41 ◼   ► definitely not what anybody wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43 ◼   ► they already did it once yeah I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:45 ◼   ► know that was the core account thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47 ◼   ► then nobody liked that update and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49 ◼   ► but but the one after that actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50 ◼   ► get faster you know like no no I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:53 ◼   ► that one I have the one that got slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55 ◼   ► 2012 wasn't the one where they cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:58 ◼   ► four core option 2012 was was the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► one they killed the four core option in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02 ◼   ► the current lineup which is a 2014 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04 ◼   ► all right well anyway I that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:07 ◼   ► people want because why are you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► satisfied with the current Mac Mini it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10 ◼   ► super expensive and what you get for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:11 ◼   ► that money doesn't run Mac OS that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:14 ◼   ► because it's old and slow so give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► new Mac Mini and if we say new Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:18 ◼   ► same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:19 ◼   ► penis your old one but size of a hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20 ◼   ► puck you like that's not what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:22 ◼   ► okay it's not that doesn't help me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► would just like I would just keep using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27 ◼   ► this one so I agree that it will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29 ◼   ► an ex macit but I think it's also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:32 ◼   ► going to be a puck I think it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:33 ◼   ► Mac Mini either the same size as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:36 ◼   ► current case are smaller but not puck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► size and it has to be has to be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:41 ◼   ► how could it not be faster just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:42 ◼   ► three-year-old guts in there probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44 ◼   ► old if it has to be faster so Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► didn't say that in his email but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48 ◼   ► I'll email him later and say hey hey Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50 ◼   ► faster right he'll send me one replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:53 ◼   ► his yes yeah no no you kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:56 ◼   ► he can't say one word he'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58 ◼   ► three sentence doesn't say nothing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00 ◼   ► also worth looking back at what the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:01 ◼   ► the Mac Mini was supposed to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03 ◼   ► first place when it was a first launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05 ◼   ► what about 12 years ago something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07 ◼   ► that what was the role back then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:10 ◼   ► time it was it was basically the Mac for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:12 ◼   ► new switchers to the Mac platform and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:15 ◼   ► was a way that you know if the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:18 ◼   ► the Macs were too expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:19 ◼   ► for your for your budget or for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21 ◼   ► needs then here's a way if you get a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23 ◼   ► for less money you supply your own you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:27 ◼   ► know whatever display and keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29 ◼   ► mouse you already have or you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31 ◼   ► cheaply from other people you bring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► will give you the box and and that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35 ◼   ► be your Mac for a lot less money than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37 ◼   ► our big towers or our laptops I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39 ◼   ► modern Apple still viewed the Mac as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42 ◼   ► business that had potential growth in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44 ◼   ► which is a big question mark I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46 ◼   ► which is unfortunate because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49 ◼   ► there's tons of growth to be had because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:50 ◼   ► for all the you know press narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:54 ◼   ► that phones and everything are killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56 ◼   ► computers we all keep using computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58 ◼   ► and we all keep buying them and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:01 ◼   ► while the PC market on the whole is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:04 ◼   ► growing very well anymore and it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06 ◼   ► this is not growing at all anymore Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► doesn't have a very big share of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09 ◼   ► their share can grow so there's tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11 ◼   ► growth to be had if they wanted it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14 ◼   ► think it's worth revisiting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15 ◼   ► original purpose of the Mac Mini which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17 ◼   ► is to attract new people to the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18 ◼   ► platform who otherwise won't or can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:21 ◼   ► buy the other options and if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:24 ◼   ► really wanted to do that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:26 ◼   ► think they've always had this tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28 ◼   ► with the Mac Mini that they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:31 ◼   ► don't want to cannibalize sales of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► max because one thing you know one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35 ◼   ► that people don't talk about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37 ◼   ► Apple comment o sphere is that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:40 ◼   ► look at what Apple actually sells the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42 ◼   ► volumes they actually sell the computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:45 ◼   ► they sell ridiculously high volumes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:48 ◼   ► are the lowest and cheapest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:51 ◼   ► configurations of each type of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53 ◼   ► they sell a ton of the cheapest iMac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:56 ◼   ► the cheapest MacBook and it would which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► for a while has been the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01 ◼   ► before that it was the the MD 101 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:04 ◼   ► that the famous non-written 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06 ◼   ► MacBook Pro Apple sells massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:10 ◼   ► quantities of those to businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:13 ◼   ► schools things like that and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:16 ◼   ► have to make sure that whatever is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18 ◼   ► cheapest thing in a category that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:22 ◼   ► both okay for Apple that they sell a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:25 ◼   ► of those instead of anything else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:26 ◼   ► that it is a reasonable computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:29 ◼   ► I think they clearly want people to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:33 ◼   ► the I D low-end IMAX and not the low-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:36 ◼   ► Mac minis as the cheap desktop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:39 ◼   ► reality though is that laptops outsell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5799">TS</a>]

01:36:42 ◼   ► desktops so much these days that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44 ◼   ► as true back when they first launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46 ◼   ► the Mac many laptops are now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48 ◼   ► computers that almost everybody wants so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51 ◼   ► if your guys still have a desktop whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:54 ◼   ► sole purpose is to sweep up the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:58 ◼   ► the edges of the market you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00 ◼   ► Jason Snell said this week an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:01 ◼   ► like it's kind of like the catch-all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:02 ◼   ► it's like it catches a lot of edge case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:05 ◼   ► needs that is some other that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07 ◼   ► Mac's might be impractical or unusable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:09 ◼   ► for let people run server farms on Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:12 ◼   ► minis like it's quickly there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13 ◼   ► cool uses that you have you know home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15 ◼   ► server so like that headless things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17 ◼   ► cheap things portable things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18 ◼   ► there's so many things you can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:19 ◼   ► Mac Mini where an iMac would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:22 ◼   ► impractical or just not really work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:24 ◼   ► that purpose or a laptop wouldn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:25 ◼   ► work you know so the Mac Mini is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:29 ◼   ► important part of the line of where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:31 ◼   ► actually truly the question I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► is it worth expanding what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:37 ◼   ► now because in today's environment which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:40 ◼   ► is very different from when the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42 ◼   ► was first conceived and introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:45 ◼   ► if they actually had a compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:48 ◼   ► inexpensive little desktop thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:52 ◼   ► you could put a standard two-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:54 ◼   ► inch hard drive in if you wanted to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56 ◼   ► expansion or things like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► things that would make it appeal more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00 ◼   ► low end and and customized buyers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:05 ◼   ► could I think really increase the appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:08 ◼   ► of Mac OS for a certain category of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10 ◼   ► people without I don't think really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► cannibalizing meaningful portions of Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:14 ◼   ► sales because if they introduced a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16 ◼   ► desktop that cannibalize the sales of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:18 ◼   ► the lowest end cheapest iMac I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:21 ◼   ► think that's a big problem for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23 ◼   ► especially as the Mac Mini it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25 ◼   ► not gonna be that cheap like it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:26 ◼   ► not gonna be a great value because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:28 ◼   ► never has been so from that angle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30 ◼   ► think it's okay and the reality is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:33 ◼   ► low-end buyers these is by laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:35 ◼   ► anyway so I don't think they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:38 ◼   ► worry so much about low-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► cannibalization anymore that as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:42 ◼   ► used to and so what this product could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44 ◼   ► instead do is be a market expander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:48 ◼   ► basically expand the market the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:51 ◼   ► share of Mac OS of people using real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53 ◼   ► Mac's instead of hacking Tasha's who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55 ◼   ► want their own desktop who don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:59 ◼   ► pay iMac prices who want to put like 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01 ◼   ► terabytes in it with a standard Drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:03 ◼   ► some way like things like that like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05 ◼   ► could be a market expander for them in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08 ◼   ► way that would detract from their core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:10 ◼   ► proper markets almost not at all if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:13 ◼   ► wanted it to be but I don't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:15 ◼   ► seem like Apple views the Mac as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17 ◼   ► growth market anymore but I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19 ◼   ► totally wrong I feel like you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21 ◼   ► a dex max territory when you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23 ◼   ► talking about the idea that it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:24 ◼   ► have a 2.5 inch base somewhere in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:26 ◼   ► computer like it did until 2012 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:30 ◼   ► that seems very unlikely they love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► PCI base and now you can still there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:39 ◼   ► still space in the case design for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:42 ◼   ► and you can I think you can still one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:43 ◼   ► them with Fusion drives so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► could have a stick and a bay in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48 ◼   ► yeah but if you didn't order it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:51 ◼   ► fusion drive then the hardware to mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► the drive isn't there like so mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55 ◼   ► SSD only and I wanted to expand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:58 ◼   ► because it's only 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5998">TS</a>]

01:39:59 ◼   ► and I can't like I just can't there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► hardware in there to support anything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03 ◼   ► I have to do external stuff I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05 ◼   ► expand it so we don't Apple hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:06 ◼   ► broken out I've had many sales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:08 ◼   ► forever if they ever did so we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:09 ◼   ► really know what the numbers are but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11 ◼   ► bet they're super small and what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:12 ◼   ► describing would be a cool thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14 ◼   ► think it falls under the same category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:16 ◼   ► is the Mac Pro isn't they would have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:19 ◼   ► to have a special announcement of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:20 ◼   ► like it's getting index Mac territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22 ◼   ► we're saying we're gonna reimagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24 ◼   ► Mac Mini and it is gonna fulfill a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:27 ◼   ► different role and that role is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29 ◼   ► what you just described Margot and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:30 ◼   ► it would have to be a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:31 ◼   ► product it would have to basically be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33 ◼   ► miniature Mac Pro designed to be modular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:36 ◼   ► and configurable to be able to spec it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► up and down to get a really cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:41 ◼   ► low-end one but also really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:43 ◼   ► high-end one in a similar form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:46 ◼   ► and be upgradable and fulfil all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► roles that you've just described for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50 ◼   ► different kind of person like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:51 ◼   ► the iMac would be the I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:52 ◼   ► worry about it I don't want how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54 ◼   ► boxes or cables it's all in one so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56 ◼   ► get the low-end iMac right and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:59 ◼   ► it's all in one box and I get a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► screen and a nice computer and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02 ◼   ► there and then the other end is I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04 ◼   ► computer that is configurable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06 ◼   ► upgradable and potentially can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:09 ◼   ► cheaper than the iMac I've already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:11 ◼   ► a monitor but also could be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:12 ◼   ► expensive if I want to crank it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14 ◼   ► try to get something faster and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16 ◼   ► into like smacks territory but so far we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:18 ◼   ► don't know anything about this but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:19 ◼   ► still those are still seen it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21 ◼   ► much more likely that it will continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23 ◼   ► to be what it is which is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:26 ◼   ► cheapest way to get into a Mac as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:30 ◼   ► as you don't need to look at a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:31 ◼   ► right like you already have a screen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33 ◼   ► the keyboard in the mouse you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:34 ◼   ► probably spec a Mac Mini so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► cheaper than Apple's cheapest laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:37 ◼   ► which may not be true for much longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39 ◼   ► given how the Mac Mini prices keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► up and that Apple continues to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44 ◼   ► around low-end cheap laptops like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46 ◼   ► is the you know the 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:47 ◼   ► air with a terrible screen is that below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49 ◼   ► $900 yet it's around there yeah so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:55 ◼   ► it would be nice of that trend reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56 ◼   ► and you can actually get a cheaper Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► Mini but um I'm not really into the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:01 ◼   ► Mini but I feel for people who use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:04 ◼   ► in various roles and it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► products where it probably doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08 ◼   ► them money like they probably don't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10 ◼   ► enough of them to recoup the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► Altmann of the new case that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:13 ◼   ► gonna design if they do design a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15 ◼   ► case or whatever but it keeps enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17 ◼   ► the of the right people happy the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:21 ◼   ► who are enthusiasts who will spread the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:25 ◼   ► word of Apple and be satisfied to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► an all Apple ecosystem because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30 ◼   ► make their music server be a Mac Mini or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:32 ◼   ► they can use it in some little situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34 ◼   ► that tickles their nerd hearts right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36 ◼   ► like just there is value in that beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► the value of how much money did we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40 ◼   ► on selling them because I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► they sell very very very very very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:44 ◼   ► Mac minis and like the Mac Pro it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► of a self-fulfilling prophecy we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:48 ◼   ► update for three years and increase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:49 ◼   ► price and make it slower yadda yadda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:51 ◼   ► yadda but I'm personally less angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53 ◼   ► about it so I'm I'm just willing to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55 ◼   ► patient here but like I said I'm excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:56 ◼   ► there's gonna be details that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:59 ◼   ► shared in the future like I still am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:04 ◼   ► very skeptical that's anything I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:07 ◼   ► the problem with the Mac Mini is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:10 ◼   ► it tries to be as three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:14 ◼   ► computers at once right there or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:16 ◼   ► least two I know a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18 ◼   ► love to have them as a entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:22 ◼   ► computer and I know that with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:23 ◼   ► TV and other boxes like it that's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► important now but I know people that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28 ◼   ► know have a Mac Mini connected to a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:30 ◼   ► and that's that's how they prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32 ◼   ► manage their media so that's one kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:35 ◼   ► Mac Mini another kind of Mac Mini is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37 ◼   ► sort that Marco I think uses wherein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:39 ◼   ► it's just a very very cheap in-home Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:41 ◼   ► based server and that's also oftentimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:44 ◼   ► used at development shops like mine we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:46 ◼   ► for a long time used two Mac Mini as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:48 ◼   ► continuous integration platform which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► something that Marco does not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53 ◼   ► then there's also parking yeah well put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:56 ◼   ► it the parking lot a Strummer for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58 ◼   ► about it tomorrow morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6238">TS</a>]

01:43:59 ◼   ► yeah that sounds that sounds perfect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:02 ◼   ► then finally there's the one that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04 ◼   ► sounds like Marco's most interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06 ◼   ► unsurprisingly which is the cheap but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:10 ◼   ► expandable and flexible Mac something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:14 ◼   ► that's kind of sort of like the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:17 ◼   ► Air that John had just brought up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:19 ◼   ► desktop II you know where you can expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:22 ◼   ► it potentially and you can bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:24 ◼   ► own keyboard and mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:25 ◼   ► and in monitor and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:27 ◼   ► and I think the problem is is that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:30 ◼   ► matter what Apple does shy of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32 ◼   ► three different machines there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► one or more groups that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► displeased by the results and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:40 ◼   ► envy them in that regard and yes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:41 ◼   ► large degree this is a self-created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:43 ◼   ► problem just like John said and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:45 ◼   ► said about how you know well yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:46 ◼   ► didn't update it for three years and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► updates you did before that were crap so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:50 ◼   ► this is this is this is the bed they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:52 ◼   ► chosen to sleep in but it's a crummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6292">TS</a>]

01:44:55 ◼   ► situation and I don't know how to dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:56 ◼   ► yourself out of it out of outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58 ◼   ► making a few different machines it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:01 ◼   ► gonna matter though because our iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:02 ◼   ► tens will be quicker anyway yeah Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► 100% guaranteed unless they did the X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:09 ◼   ► Mac which they're not all right thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11 ◼   ► for sponsors this week Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:13 ◼   ► fracture and aftershocks and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:15 ◼   ► you next week now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:21 ◼   ► they didn't even mean to begin as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:25 ◼   ► accidental accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:31 ◼   ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:34 ◼   ► him cuz it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:38 ◼   ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:42 ◼   ► notes at ADP you can follow them CAS II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:52 ◼   ► WA L is s so that's Casey list and a are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:57 ◼   ► Co AR m and T Marco Arment SI r AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6357">TS</a>]

01:46:05 ◼   ► Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:19 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:27 ◼   ► sound of Italian power that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► that is I don't know I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33 ◼   ► your BMW sounds like plus Thibodaux he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35 ◼   ► in the shop I don't think you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:36 ◼   ► rev it like that block the valvetrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38 ◼   ► again that is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:43 ◼   ► sounds like some kind of dinosaurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:46 ◼   ► exploding in sequence and possibly eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:49 ◼   ► sequences it's not eight sequences it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:54 ◼   ► it is six sequences three six on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:57 ◼   ► Julia hmm it is a v6 in the Julia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6417">TS</a>]

01:47:00 ◼   ► that is what you just heard I recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03 ◼   ► that last night sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► so my alpha has arrived I am back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:08 ◼   ► being a car journalist ladies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:09 ◼   ► gentlemen and I am excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► wait did you like glue a camera to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13 ◼   ► back here car how'd you get this it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:15 ◼   ► GoPro oh okay with a suction cup you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6435">TS</a>]

01:47:18 ◼   ► a vlogger now I know right work has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:21 ◼   ► GoPro what is this thing it is a Hero 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:26 ◼   ► plus and anyway and and I bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:29 ◼   ► literally an $8 suction cup mount you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:32 ◼   ► know quick aside this is not why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:33 ◼   ► bringing all this up I had never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:36 ◼   ► used a GoPro before this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:38 ◼   ► amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:39 ◼   ► like everyone including I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► three of us and I very much include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:42 ◼   ► myself on this one the we had said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:46 ◼   ► you know the GoPros going out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:48 ◼   ► business because maybe we never talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:50 ◼   ► about this but I feel like we did GoPros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:51 ◼   ► going out of business because that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:52 ◼   ► you have an iPhone and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54 ◼   ► waterproof now and you're good to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:56 ◼   ► and yeah we didn't all say that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6476">TS</a>]

01:48:06 ◼   ► well yeah but I don't trust my own lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:08 ◼   ► of memory anyway the point is is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:11 ◼   ► I've heard somebody say that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:14 ◼   ► GoPro that GoPro is going out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► business and I have no idea what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:17 ◼   ► financials look like but this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:19 ◼   ► so damn flexible not in a physical sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:21 ◼   ► but it is so damn flexible and so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► that I if you do any sort of videography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:31 ◼   ► that involves any sort of motion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► putting things in odd places that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:36 ◼   ► bad but go with it here this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38 ◼   ► tremendous device and I am so glad I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40 ◼   ► able to borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► from work so yeah so I suction-cupped a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:44 ◼   ► GoPro to the back of the Alfa Romeo as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46 ◼   ► was going through a parking garage sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:49 ◼   ► of near my house don't be creepy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:52 ◼   ► so I got delivered to me an Alfa Romeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► Giulia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► let me try this I'm sorry Federico who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:00 ◼   ► probably doesn't even listen the show he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► actually recorded for me a clip I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:04 ◼   ► send it to Marco so he could dub it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:06 ◼   ► he recorded for me a clip of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:07 ◼   ► pronouncing it at my request and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:09 ◼   ► gonna butcher it but anyway it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:12 ◼   ► Quadrifoglio Julia Quadrifoglio it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:18 ◼   ► high speed a twin-turbo v6 version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:21 ◼   ► the Alfa Romeo Giulia and it is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:25 ◼   ► believable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:26 ◼   ► holy SH is this nice car it's take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:31 ◼   ► m take your take your Tesla but make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:35 ◼   ► much more possible and make it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:39 ◼   ► like sex and that is basically what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:42 ◼   ► is or perhaps take your m5 and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:46 ◼   ► lose fifteen thousand pounds because by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48 ◼   ► comparing I loved your m5 don't get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:51 ◼   ► wrong but the this thing feels like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:54 ◼   ► 1/10 the car that the m5 was and oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:58 ◼   ► word it's amazing I'm a little concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:02 ◼   ► about your opinion of the sound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04 ◼   ► certain things but this does sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:09 ◼   ► really good I think it looks good John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:12 ◼   ► doesn't agree that it looks good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:13 ◼   ► think it looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:14 ◼   ► oh it does not look good and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:16 ◼   ► don't want to stick of course that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:17 ◼   ► sticking point I guess that's our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:20 ◼   ► question it's like how is the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22 ◼   ► transmission in this wonderful sex car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:27 ◼   ► so the automatic is an odd thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:33 ◼   ► has the ZF 8-speed that BMW uses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:36 ◼   ► the Challenger Hellcat uses it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:39 ◼   ► same ZF 8-speed that's used in anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:41 ◼   ► that wants to go fast but only have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► pedals and doesn't want to be a DCT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:46 ◼   ► I still want a stick but damn if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:51 ◼   ► isn't a decent set a substitute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:54 ◼   ► and the biggest problem I had with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6654">TS</a>]

01:50:57 ◼   ► car is that and to be clear in case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6657">TS</a>]

01:51:01 ◼   ► haven't been following along this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:02 ◼   ► this is my alpha only for a week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:04 ◼   ► then it goes back to Alfre May oh it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:06 ◼   ► press car that was arranged by friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:09 ◼   ► of the show at the wheel bearings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:10 ◼   ► podcast which we've linked to before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:12 ◼   ► a link to again imagine imagine our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6672">TS</a>]

01:51:14 ◼   ► neutral but by people who actually know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► what they're talking about and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:17 ◼   ► wheel bearing so anyway so I've spent $0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20 ◼   ► on this car I've already gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► like a half a tank of gas and span of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:23 ◼   ► three days but that's a different issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:24 ◼   ► but this car will be going back to Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26 ◼   ► Romeo on Monday so anyway the 8-speed ZF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:30 ◼   ► 8-speed it feels unlike any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► automatic I've driven and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:38 ◼   ► if it's just that it has a lock-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:39 ◼   ► torque converter that spends almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► of its time locked but it feels much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► more like a DCT than it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:48 ◼   ► traditional automatic the problem I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:50 ◼   ► with the Alfa Romeo though was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:52 ◼   ► there is that first gear is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:57 ◼   ► useless and and I don't know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6717">TS</a>]

01:51:59 ◼   ► because it it just doesn't really move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:02 ◼   ► in first gear and then you bang into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:05 ◼   ► second gear and suddenly you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► the Kraken has been released and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► bets are off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:12 ◼   ► well at least that's what I thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:15 ◼   ► it turns out that I'm just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:18 ◼   ► programmed by BMW and I'm too used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:23 ◼   ► seeing the dashboard light up like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► Christmas tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► if the traction control comes on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:30 ◼   ► earlier today I was out and the Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:36 ◼   ► Romeo has four modes it has D na for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6756">TS</a>]

01:52:40 ◼   ► dynamic natural and advanced efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► which basically amounts to sport normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:46 ◼   ► and eco crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:48 ◼   ► but it also has race mode race mode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:51 ◼   ► scary because race mode turns off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:55 ◼   ► the electronic nannies and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:57 ◼   ► way it works it also makes the exhaust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6777">TS</a>]

01:52:59 ◼   ► sound even better but it turns off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:01 ◼   ► the electronic nannies and so I had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:06 ◼   ► in race mode I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:07 ◼   ► firmly planted with the wheel at zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:10 ◼   ► degrees because this is a rear-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:12 ◼   ► drive car with 500 horsepower and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:14 ◼   ► don't trust my driving skills as Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:16 ◼   ► saw at BMW in South Carolina so anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:19 ◼   ► had it firmly planted at zero degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:22 ◼   ► and I mashed on the gas and I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:25 ◼   ► oh my first gear isn't the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:29 ◼   ► the problem is it doesn't have wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:31 ◼   ► enough tires to get the traction to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33 ◼   ► ground or to get to get the torque to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35 ◼   ► the ground and so the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:38 ◼   ► it's neutered in first because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:40 ◼   ► can't it just can't get the power down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:43 ◼   ► and oh my word is this thing quick when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6823">TS</a>]

01:53:47 ◼   ► it hooks up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:48 ◼   ► it is unbelievable fast the numbers say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:52 ◼   ► it's zero to 60 in a little under 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:54 ◼   ► seconds which is probably about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:56 ◼   ► speed as Marcos Tesla but oh my word it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:59 ◼   ► feels like a rocket and sounds so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6839">TS</a>]

01:54:04 ◼   ► it is unbelievable I don't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:07 ◼   ► make of the reliability you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:10 ◼   ► obviously everyone has like a dad or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6850">TS</a>]

01:54:12 ◼   ► uncle or a grandfather or a cousin or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:14 ◼   ► something like that that had an Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:15 ◼   ► Romeo 20-30 years ago and said that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► never worked for more than 10 minutes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:18 ◼   ► a time I believe that to be true I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6858">TS</a>]

01:54:20 ◼   ► doubt it I don't know if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:23 ◼   ► reliable or not who knows but it if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6863">TS</a>]

01:54:27 ◼   ► is reliable and if one can have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:31 ◼   ► under the $80,000 or so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:34 ◼   ► stickers for wow what a great sedan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:37 ◼   ► so much of the inside feels like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:41 ◼   ► BMW but slightly different the gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:44 ◼   ► shift is straight out of a BMW mate I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6884">TS</a>]

01:54:47 ◼   ► assuming not literally but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:48 ◼   ► exact same style as like Tiff's car has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:50 ◼   ► the paddles are humongous but otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:54 ◼   ► very BMW ish although the BMW loaner I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6894">TS</a>]

01:54:58 ◼   ► have today because my car went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6898">TS</a>]

01:54:59 ◼   ► shop for another $2,000 repair the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:02 ◼   ► loaner I have today is the 340 grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:04 ◼   ► grand touring grand treason or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:06 ◼   ► the hell the thing is that if has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08 ◼   ► debrief I'm sorry not 340 a 330 GT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:12 ◼   ► this and the paddles are on the steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14 ◼   ► wheel and I think I prefer that but Maya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:17 ◼   ► my understanding is that I'm wrong so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:20 ◼   ► John do you know why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:21 ◼   ► to prefer the paddles on the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6921">TS</a>]

01:55:22 ◼   ► rather than the steering column I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24 ◼   ► thought about that a lot because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26 ◼   ► time I read review some what people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29 ◼   ► strong opinions like usually they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:30 ◼   ► they're raving about them in the Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:32 ◼   ► and how they're how they're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:33 ◼   ► column and not on the wheel but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:36 ◼   ► the only thing I have to compare it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:38 ◼   ► is you know my audio controls which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:42 ◼   ► use a surprising amount because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:43 ◼   ► random play on my on my ipod in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6943">TS</a>]

01:55:45 ◼   ► and I do a lot of skipping much to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6945">TS</a>]

01:55:47 ◼   ► consternation of everyone in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:48 ◼   ► with me and so very often I will want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:51 ◼   ► skip to the next track while I'm turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6951">TS</a>]

01:55:53 ◼   ► and I think about would it be better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6953">TS</a>]

01:55:56 ◼   ► I could get to that control and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58 ◼   ► always in the same place or would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59 ◼   ► better that it stays you know visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:01 ◼   ► because were actually on the steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:02 ◼   ► wheel and I having you know I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:05 ◼   ► having owned the only paddle-shift car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:07 ◼   ► I've ever used as Markos m5 and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10 ◼   ► think it did a lot of sharp turns now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:11 ◼   ► but my recollection is that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:12 ◼   ► paddles were on the column is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:14 ◼   ► correct mark oh no they were on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:16 ◼   ► wheel is not helping me but anyway I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:20 ◼   ► never I've never even driven one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:22 ◼   ► had it on the column yeah so using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24 ◼   ► audio controls I think I would find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26 ◼   ► more convenient for them to turn with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:28 ◼   ► the wheel because where are my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:29 ◼   ► they're usually like I'm not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6989">TS</a>]

01:56:31 ◼   ► it's good that the ones that are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6991">TS</a>]

01:56:33 ◼   ► column never move but it's bad that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:35 ◼   ► hands might be far away from it if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:37 ◼   ► in the middle of a turn and holding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:38 ◼   ► for dear life but I confess that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:40 ◼   ► no actual experience in this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:42 ◼   ► closest I have is taking a a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7002">TS</a>]

01:56:46 ◼   ► suburban street turn a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:47 ◼   ► fast while I'm trying to skip a track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:49 ◼   ► and in that case I like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:51 ◼   ► it's PI my hand but changing audio is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:53 ◼   ► not it's not the same as shifting gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7013">TS</a>]

01:56:57 ◼   ► so what is your experience with have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7017">TS</a>]

01:57:00 ◼   ► used both kinds Casey well yeah so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:03 ◼   ► back up a half step today my car my 335 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7023">TS</a>]

01:57:07 ◼   ► went in for service I asked for a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7027">TS</a>]

01:57:10 ◼   ► inspection which is required by law in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:12 ◼   ► the state of Virginia to be 16 dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:14 ◼   ► the bill is about 1,600 the reason being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:16 ◼   ► apparently my rear tires were on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:19 ◼   ► or indicators to the point that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:20 ◼   ► would not do a safety inspection they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7040">TS</a>]

01:57:23 ◼   ► would not past the safety inspection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7043">TS</a>]

01:57:24 ◼   ► then they said oh the Front's are bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:25 ◼   ► enough that you should probably do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:26 ◼   ► same thing so $1,600 later I now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:29 ◼   ► new tires or will have new tires but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:32 ◼   ► problem I have is every time I bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:33 ◼   ► car into the shop as you guys know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7053">TS</a>]

01:57:35 ◼   ► better than anyone it's usually there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:36 ◼   ► for at least an overnight as it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7056">TS</a>]

01:57:38 ◼   ► out it has been if not a week or more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:41 ◼   ► I asked for a loaner when I booked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7061">TS</a>]

01:57:44 ◼   ► appointment like two or three weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:46 ◼   ► and then the the Julia showed up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:49 ◼   ► thought oh maybe I should just tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7069">TS</a>]

01:57:50 ◼   ► you know don't give me a loaner because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:51 ◼   ► I have this car but then I thought no if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:54 ◼   ► I do that then it will need a full like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:56 ◼   ► coolant system replacement or water pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58 ◼   ► or something like that so I better just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7078">TS</a>]

01:58:00 ◼   ► have both of them so right now in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:02 ◼   ► driveway there is one car that we own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:04 ◼   ► and two cars that are borrowed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7084">TS</a>]

01:58:08 ◼   ► in the borrowed car like I said is a 330 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:10 ◼   ► GT which is the neutered version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:13 ◼   ► Tiff's car the rear visibility out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:15 ◼   ► that by the way is comically bad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17 ◼   ► anyway the the the 3/4 I keep saying 340 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:21 ◼   ► the 330 has steering wheel-mounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7101">TS</a>]

01:58:24 ◼   ► paddles and I think I vastly prefer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7104">TS</a>]

01:58:29 ◼   ► because I've been driving the Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:31 ◼   ► predominantly in manual mode and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:34 ◼   ► aggressively try to avoid shifting by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37 ◼   ► like presumably shutting down cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:39 ◼   ► are killing the fuel into the engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:41 ◼   ► rather than shifting so so so there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:48 ◼   ► been a couple times where I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:49 ◼   ► turning the Alfa and wanted to grab the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7129">TS</a>]

01:58:51 ◼   ► the up shift paddle and it's not where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:54 ◼   ► expect it to be because it's hanging out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:55 ◼   ► at the steering column and I meant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:57 ◼   ► my hands are at like 12 and 6 o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7137">TS</a>]

01:59:00 ◼   ► and even though these paddles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7140">TS</a>]

01:59:03 ◼   ► friggin enormous which I do like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7143">TS</a>]

01:59:06 ◼   ► not where I expect them to be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:07 ◼   ► don't prefer it so in my brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:09 ◼   ► experience with paddle shifted cars I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:11 ◼   ► think I preferred on the wheel which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7151">TS</a>]

01:59:14 ◼   ► weird because almost everyone I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7154">TS</a>]

01:59:16 ◼   ► like almost every YouTube video I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7156">TS</a>]

01:59:18 ◼   ► see seems to think that on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:21 ◼   ► column is the better way to do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7161">TS</a>]

01:59:22 ◼   ► think the people who like it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:24 ◼   ► column is based on racing and I bet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:28 ◼   ► steer differently and racing first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:30 ◼   ► all is you know it's not it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7170">TS</a>]

01:59:31 ◼   ► same as going on a certain street where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:33 ◼   ► you might cross your hands over each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:34 ◼   ► other I imagine maybe the racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7174">TS</a>]

01:59:35 ◼   ► technique is not to do as much like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:38 ◼   ► do more of passing the wheel through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:40 ◼   ► your hands instead of going into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42 ◼   ► crazy positions where your arms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:43 ◼   ► practically crossing over each other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:44 ◼   ► that's just a guess because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7184">TS</a>]

01:59:45 ◼   ► scenario where you would want it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47 ◼   ► I mean I'm just think of like f1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:49 ◼   ► cockpits where you have to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7189">TS</a>]

01:59:50 ◼   ► steering wheel off to even get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:51 ◼   ► stupid thing you don't you don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7191">TS</a>]

01:59:53 ◼   ► lot of room to be like turning your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7193">TS</a>]

01:59:55 ◼   ► hands over each other and you even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57 ◼   ► you're making sharp turns and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:58 ◼   ► steering ratios are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7198">TS</a>]

01:59:58 ◼   ► steering ratios are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7198">TS</a>]

02:00:00 ◼   ► not the same as in regular cars so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:02 ◼   ► in that situation although they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:03 ◼   ► have paddle shifters on the f1 cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7203">TS</a>]

02:00:05 ◼   ► anyways I don't know I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7205">TS</a>]

02:00:06 ◼   ► I'm talking about but I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:07 ◼   ► argument boat I can see the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:09 ◼   ► both ways based on how you drive what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:11 ◼   ► your driving technique life with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7211">TS</a>]

02:00:13 ◼   ► giant steering wheel on residential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15 ◼   ► roads in a regular person sedan on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:19 ◼   ► wheel probably seems like it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7219">TS</a>]

02:00:21 ◼   ► but for the people who are raving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:22 ◼   ► could be just the situation of like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24 ◼   ► they're on a race track that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26 ◼   ► Ferraris have them you know that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:28 ◼   ► are advantages in that scenario so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7228">TS</a>]

02:00:30 ◼   ► if you had well let's say but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7230">TS</a>]

02:00:32 ◼   ► did the BAM get BMW drivers cool did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:34 ◼   ► the BMWs or do you stick shifts or were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:37 ◼   ► you paddle no they they had one series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7237">TS</a>]

02:00:40 ◼   ► M's not too long before we were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7240">TS</a>]

02:00:42 ◼   ► but they said they were constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7242">TS</a>]

02:00:43 ◼   ► blowing clutches because nobody knew how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45 ◼   ► to drive them and so they abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:47 ◼   ► those and everything was DCT when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:49 ◼   ► were there and so those were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:50 ◼   ► steering wheel-mounted yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7250">TS</a>]

02:00:53 ◼   ► think he's ever made a car that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7253">TS</a>]

02:00:55 ◼   ► that like if it has paddles I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7255">TS</a>]

02:00:57 ◼   ► there on the wheel the only thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7257">TS</a>]

02:00:59 ◼   ► a bummer about these humongous paddles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:01 ◼   ► though is that they're exactly where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7261">TS</a>]

02:01:03 ◼   ► used to having a turn signal every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7263">TS</a>]

02:01:06 ◼   ► I go to use my turn signal I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7266">TS</a>]

02:01:07 ◼   ► damn downshift paddle or almost hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7267">TS</a>]

02:01:10 ◼   ► downshift paddle but yeah this df8 speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:13 ◼   ► man it is a great transmission and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7273">TS</a>]

02:01:15 ◼   ► buddy Brian who had the r32 he had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:19 ◼   ► e36 m3 he had the 335 he has only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:22 ◼   ► recommended to me that I buy my 335 he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7282">TS</a>]

02:01:25 ◼   ► now has a 6-speed x5 which turns out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7285">TS</a>]

02:01:28 ◼   ► the thing and I believe I've spoken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7288">TS</a>]

02:01:30 ◼   ► you too about it and I've driven it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:31 ◼   ► it is completely wrong in every measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:33 ◼   ► but it is phenomenally cool well anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:37 ◼   ► he had been telling me for years that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:38 ◼   ► the ZF 8-speed is actually really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7298">TS</a>]

02:01:39 ◼   ► and I kept telling him he was out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:41 ◼   ► stay in mind and it's DCT or 6-speed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:43 ◼   ► get out I still think I'd prefer DCT but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7303">TS</a>]

02:01:46 ◼   ► I think if I had put mmm if Marko or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:51 ◼   ► myself had ended up in this car and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7311">TS</a>]

02:01:53 ◼   ► known if it was a DCT or a slush box I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7313">TS</a>]

02:01:55 ◼   ► not sure either of us could tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:57 ◼   ► difference it is really that good it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7317">TS</a>]

02:01:59 ◼   ► phenomenally good and the car is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7319">TS</a>]

02:02:03 ◼   ► tremendous so much of the switchgear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:04 ◼   ► feels like BMW it does get silly things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7324">TS</a>]

02:02:07 ◼   ► wrong as an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7327">TS</a>]

02:02:09 ◼   ► BMW turn signals are very peculiar but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7329">TS</a>]

02:02:12 ◼   ► love them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:13 ◼   ► way it works is they always end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7333">TS</a>]

02:02:15 ◼   ► the center so even if you have the turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7335">TS</a>]

02:02:16 ◼   ► signal constantly going for an hour the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:19 ◼   ► stalk will be in the center so what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7339">TS</a>]

02:02:22 ◼   ► can do is if you want to cancel a turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7342">TS</a>]

02:02:24 ◼   ► signal you can either hit it in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7344">TS</a>]

02:02:25 ◼   ► direction it was going before or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7345">TS</a>]

02:02:27 ◼   ► even go in the opposite direction just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7347">TS</a>]

02:02:29 ◼   ► smidge and either way it will cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7349">TS</a>]

02:02:31 ◼   ► like a pending turn signal in the Alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:33 ◼   ► what I'm used to doing is I'll turn on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7353">TS</a>]

02:02:36 ◼   ► turn signal and if for some reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7356">TS</a>]

02:02:37 ◼   ► want it to turn back off I will just hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7357">TS</a>]

02:02:39 ◼   ► it in the same direction again so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:40 ◼   ► hit the left signal then I'll hit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7360">TS</a>]

02:02:42 ◼   ► again to cancel it and in the alpha the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7362">TS</a>]

02:02:45 ◼   ► only way to cancel just to go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7365">TS</a>]

02:02:46 ◼   ► opposite direction which is this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7366">TS</a>]

02:02:48 ◼   ► quirky thing but it drives me bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7368">TS</a>]

02:02:50 ◼   ► the other quirky thing is it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7370">TS</a>]

02:02:53 ◼   ► really good Bluetooth support everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7373">TS</a>]

02:02:55 ◼   ► seems fine with that except every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7375">TS</a>]

02:02:57 ◼   ► you get in the car you need to reach in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7377">TS</a>]

02:03:01 ◼   ► and if you go to your phone as the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7381">TS</a>]

02:03:04 ◼   ► input you need to tell it to reconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:06 ◼   ► to the phone for media it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7386">TS</a>]

02:03:08 ◼   ► connected for telephone but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:10 ◼   ► connected for media and it's instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7390">TS</a>]

02:03:12 ◼   ► when it does it cuz it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:13 ◼   ► connected via the phone but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7393">TS</a>]

02:03:15 ◼   ► tell it yes I would like to listen to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7395">TS</a>]

02:03:17 ◼   ► phone please enter media mode on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7397">TS</a>]

02:03:19 ◼   ► phone it's so annoying that's pretty but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:22 ◼   ► yeah but it works great in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7402">TS</a>]

02:03:24 ◼   ► display is pretty high-res the back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7404">TS</a>]

02:03:26 ◼   ► camera is comically not but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7406">TS</a>]

02:03:28 ◼   ► display is pretty high rayet res it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:29 ◼   ► blends into the dashboard much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7409">TS</a>]

02:03:31 ◼   ► than any BMW does with like those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:33 ◼   ► Tiff's car where it's just like a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7413">TS</a>]

02:03:35 ◼   ► hanging out of the dashboard out of out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7415">TS</a>]

02:03:36 ◼   ► of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:37 ◼   ► howdy does the same thing that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7417">TS</a>]

02:03:39 ◼   ► unique to BMW but mostly switchgear just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7419">TS</a>]

02:03:43 ◼   ► feels like BMW and I mean that in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:45 ◼   ► way it feels very familiar one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:48 ◼   ► advantages of having a two pedal cars it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7428">TS</a>]

02:03:51 ◼   ► has a remote start which is kind of neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:53 ◼   ► what I'll start I write down the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:55 ◼   ► biggest thing for me is just that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7435">TS</a>]

02:03:57 ◼   ► it feels much like the m5 did and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7437">TS</a>]

02:04:00 ◼   ► feels much like the Tesla does in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7440">TS</a>]

02:04:02 ◼   ► it feels like infinite power from almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7442">TS</a>]

02:04:06 ◼   ► any part of the any part of the rpm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:09 ◼   ► range the other thing that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:10 ◼   ► is 3,000 rpm in any standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7450">TS</a>]

02:04:14 ◼   ► transmission car I've ever driven is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7454">TS</a>]

02:04:16 ◼   ► about where I would normally shift so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:19 ◼   ► like to that one 1,500 to 2,000 rpm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7459">TS</a>]

02:04:22 ◼   ► any car I've ever driven is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7462">TS</a>]

02:04:24 ◼   ► comfort zone right and 3,000 rpms when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:27 ◼   ► you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7467">TS</a>]

02:04:27 ◼   ► starting to get out of your definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7467">TS</a>]

02:04:29 ◼   ► out of the comfort zone but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:30 ◼   ► starting to get into like no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7470">TS</a>]

02:04:32 ◼   ► clearly trying to go somewhere with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7472">TS</a>]

02:04:34 ◼   ► quickness that's like what 3000 plus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7474">TS</a>]

02:04:36 ◼   ► in this car which has about a 6500 rpm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7476">TS</a>]

02:04:40 ◼   ► redline in this car 3000 rpm feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7480">TS</a>]

02:04:43 ◼   ► 2,000 rpm in any other car which is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:45 ◼   ► say 3000 rpm feels like okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7485">TS</a>]

02:04:48 ◼   ► about the top of the comfort zone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:50 ◼   ► still comfortably in the comfort zone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7490">TS</a>]

02:04:54 ◼   ► it just wants to rev like like no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7494">TS</a>]

02:04:57 ◼   ► car I've ever driven and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7497">TS</a>]

02:05:01 ◼   ► phenomenally phenomenally fun now all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7501">TS</a>]

02:05:04 ◼   ► the chat room is giving me all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:06 ◼   ► grief because I didn't make a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7506">TS</a>]

02:05:08 ◼   ► quality video for him or her and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:10 ◼   ► wondering why I'm doing a video at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12 ◼   ► my intention is to do a proper you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:15 ◼   ► car review of this and put it on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7515">TS</a>]

02:05:17 ◼   ► probably sometimes six months from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7517">TS</a>]

02:05:19 ◼   ► but it's I'm trying to get a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:22 ◼   ► of film that I can splice together using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:26 ◼   ► either iMovie or if I decide to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:27 ◼   ► the money on Final Cut Pro and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7527">TS</a>]

02:05:30 ◼   ► get like a 5 to 10-minute video out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7530">TS</a>]

02:05:31 ◼   ► this also interesting whoa and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:34 ◼   ► definitely gonna write something on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7534">TS</a>]

02:05:35 ◼   ► blog about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7535">TS</a>]

02:05:36 ◼   ► also interestingly if you and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7536">TS</a>]

02:05:39 ◼   ► think I have the link handy but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:40 ◼   ► look up the ARS technica review of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7540">TS</a>]

02:05:42 ◼   ► car it as it turns out that that review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7542">TS</a>]

02:05:46 ◼   ► was written by someone based out of DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7546">TS</a>]

02:05:49 ◼   ► well this car is based out of Baltimore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7549">TS</a>]

02:05:52 ◼   ► and if you look at the plate on by on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:55 ◼   ► the car that's in my garage as we speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:56 ◼   ► and if you look at the plate of the ARS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7556">TS</a>]

02:05:58 ◼   ► technica review it is the same plate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7558">TS</a>]

02:06:00 ◼   ► thus one would assume it is the same car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7560">TS</a>]

02:06:02 ◼   ► also interestingly there was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7562">TS</a>]

02:06:06 ◼   ► review I saw based out of by someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:08 ◼   ► based out of New York and the plate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:10 ◼   ► this car is either six or GLP k17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7570">TS</a>]

02:06:15 ◼   ► and the other review I saw was II I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:17 ◼   ► guess it's six lpk one six so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7577">TS</a>]

02:06:21 ◼   ► really surprising but it just trucked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7581">TS</a>]

02:06:22 ◼   ► funny that apparently you know Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7582">TS</a>]

02:06:24 ◼   ► Romeo or really Fiat Chrysler a Chrysler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7584">TS</a>]

02:06:25 ◼   ► of America you know imported you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7585">TS</a>]

02:06:28 ◼   ► maybe six of these or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7588">TS</a>]

02:06:29 ◼   ► that and just went to the Michigan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7589">TS</a>]

02:06:31 ◼   ► know DMV and said ok I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7591">TS</a>]

02:06:33 ◼   ► register six julia's if you please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:36 ◼   ► additionally when the car was delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7596">TS</a>]

02:06:38 ◼   ► on Monday it was delivered in the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:41 ◼   ► the the competition II read which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7601">TS</a>]

02:06:43 ◼   ► beautiful when it was delivered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7603">TS</a>]

02:06:46 ◼   ► chase car was another Julia it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:49 ◼   ► the quadrupole Quadrifoglio I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7609">TS</a>]

02:06:52 ◼   ► that's right I'm sorry Federico anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7612">TS</a>]

02:06:54 ◼   ► it was just the more pedestrian version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7614">TS</a>]

02:06:56 ◼   ► the chase car was white the loaner that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7616">TS</a>]

02:06:59 ◼   ► I got today and I did not ask for it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7619">TS</a>]

02:07:01 ◼   ► white this one thing this white then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7621">TS</a>]

02:07:05 ◼   ► follows me even though I don't want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7625">TS</a>]

02:07:06 ◼   ► but sure I don't I really don't but god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:12 ◼   ► this this red is so good so I will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7632">TS</a>]

02:07:14 ◼   ► say in my history of getting serviced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7634">TS</a>]

02:07:16 ◼   ► loaner vehicles from car makers while my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7636">TS</a>]

02:07:18 ◼   ► car's in the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:18 ◼   ► I've never gotten a white one you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:22 ◼   ► bunch of white ones when we were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7642">TS</a>]

02:07:23 ◼   ► South Carolina driving school yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7643">TS</a>]

02:07:25 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7645">TS</a>]

02:07:27 ◼   ► anyway the car is tremendous I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:31 ◼   ► want to give it back I I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7651">TS</a>]

02:07:35 ◼   ► love it and if I was if I was to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7655">TS</a>]

02:07:38 ◼   ► car tomorrow and I was willing to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7658">TS</a>]

02:07:42 ◼   ► up on the six-speed and I had $80,000 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:45 ◼   ► spec I really think I would buy one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:49 ◼   ► really really do I mean I'm used to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7669">TS</a>]

02:07:51 ◼   ► car that never runs anyway so why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7671">TS</a>]

02:07:52 ◼   ► get another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7672">TS</a>]

02:07:55 ◼   ► I this thing is tremendous that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7675">TS</a>]

02:07:58 ◼   ► nice to hear like I I knew John would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7678">TS</a>]

02:08:01 ◼   ► not like the way it looks and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7681">TS</a>]

02:08:02 ◼   ► therefore rule everything else had about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7682">TS</a>]

02:08:03 ◼   ► it plus John would never buy a car this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7683">TS</a>]

02:08:05 ◼   ► expensive no matter how much money he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7685">TS</a>]

02:08:07 ◼   ► had so I and I am you just made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:14 ◼   ► infinite time scale argument okay on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7694">TS</a>]

02:08:16 ◼   ► infinite money scale yes but anyway I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7696">TS</a>]

02:08:23 ◼   ► most pleased to hear your opinion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7703">TS</a>]

02:08:26 ◼   ► automatic transmission because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7706">TS</a>]

02:08:28 ◼   ► description of it like really avoiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7708">TS</a>]

02:08:30 ◼   ► shifting when you're in manual mode like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7710">TS</a>]

02:08:33 ◼   ► really avoiding shifting itself the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7713">TS</a>]

02:08:36 ◼   ► problems I had with with all manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7716">TS</a>]

02:08:39 ◼   ► shifted automatics that I've ever driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7719">TS</a>]

02:08:40 ◼   ► and have come down to too many gears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:44 ◼   ► also that you know that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7724">TS</a>]

02:08:47 ◼   ► second-guess me and it would shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:48 ◼   ► itself when it felt like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7728">TS</a>]

02:08:50 ◼   ► convenient for me no matter what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52 ◼   ► sporty or manual mode I put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:54 ◼   ► that was always a problem for me and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7734">TS</a>]

02:08:56 ◼   ► I'm I'm glad to hear that this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7736">TS</a>]

02:09:00 ◼   ► appears to be a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7740">TS</a>]

02:09:01 ◼   ► implementation of that and like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:04 ◼   ► automatic shifting that the m5 DCC ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7744">TS</a>]

02:09:06 ◼   ► did for me was if you came to a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:09 ◼   ► stop it would put you in first gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:12 ◼   ► yeah and this will do the same you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7752">TS</a>]

02:09:13 ◼   ► right but but I totally get your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:16 ◼   ► and and yes it is it is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7756">TS</a>]

02:09:21 ◼   ► good stunningly stunningly good in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7761">TS</a>]

02:09:24 ◼   ► that really kind of makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7764">TS</a>]

02:09:25 ◼   ► uncomfortable because and I say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7765">TS</a>]

02:09:28 ◼   ► somewhat tongue-in-cheek but I also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7768">TS</a>]

02:09:30 ◼   ► of mean it part of my identity as a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7770">TS</a>]

02:09:33 ◼   ► guy and as someone who has enjoyed cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:36 ◼   ► is driving a stick like that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7776">TS</a>]

02:09:38 ◼   ► I would be losing part of myself if I if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:41 ◼   ► I bought an automatic car that I drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7781">TS</a>]

02:09:43 ◼   ► everyday and I recognize how bananas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7783">TS</a>]

02:09:46 ◼   ► in cooky that sounds I fully own it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7786">TS</a>]

02:09:49 ◼   ► it's just it's the way it is like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:50 ◼   ► really honest it's the way it is I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7790">TS</a>]

02:09:52 ◼   ► it's turned into analogue all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7792">TS</a>]

02:09:53 ◼   ► sudden but anyway this car is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7793">TS</a>]

02:09:57 ◼   ► enough that it would make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7797">TS</a>]

02:09:59 ◼   ► second-guess having a stick like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7799">TS</a>]

02:10:02 ◼   ► I would absolutely take the stick if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7802">TS</a>]

02:10:04 ◼   ► was an option but if since it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7804">TS</a>]

02:10:07 ◼   ► I would absolutely still consider this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7807">TS</a>]

02:10:10 ◼   ► car if I had $80,000 to spend you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7810">TS</a>]

02:10:12 ◼   ► if I felt like it would ever run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:14 ◼   ► more than ten minutes at a time etcetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7814">TS</a>]

02:10:16 ◼   ► etcetera etc but it is so good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7816">TS</a>]

02:10:18 ◼   ► think part of the reason is so good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7818">TS</a>]

02:10:19 ◼   ► because it's 500 horsepower right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7819">TS</a>]

02:10:21 ◼   ► if this was in a 200 horsepower car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7821">TS</a>]

02:10:23 ◼   ► don't think I would be near as amused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7823">TS</a>]

02:10:25 ◼   ► thoughts John are you gonna come visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:27 ◼   ► tomorrow no Louie did you fire only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:34 ◼   ► Ferrari you wouldn't fly down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:41 ◼   ► but now it sounds good it looks bad what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7841">TS</a>]

02:10:44 ◼   ► can I tell you I don't think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:46 ◼   ► that bad I really don't Gerber baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7846">TS</a>]

02:10:50 ◼   ► spice navigator I I was in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7850">TS</a>]

02:10:54 ◼   ► for this kind of vehicle I would give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7854">TS</a>]

02:10:58 ◼   ► the strong consideration like it does I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:00 ◼   ► think it looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7860">TS</a>]

02:11:01 ◼   ► I like the idea I haven't ever driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7861">TS</a>]

02:11:04 ◼   ► one I like the idea of it like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7864">TS</a>]

02:11:07 ◼   ► like spirit and a soul that most modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:10 ◼   ► cars lack like giving you feelings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7870">TS</a>]

02:11:14 ◼   ► like this is so awesome I just love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:16 ◼   ► I love the way it sounded of the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7876">TS</a>]

02:11:17 ◼   ► drives like that's something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7877">TS</a>]

02:11:20 ◼   ► really hard to find and in the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7880">TS</a>]

02:11:23 ◼   ► the car world most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7883">TS</a>]

02:11:25 ◼   ► especially at the high end where like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:26 ◼   ► many high-end cars also have to appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7886">TS</a>]

02:11:28 ◼   ► to like you know old people with stiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7888">TS</a>]

02:11:31 ◼   ► bones that like you know they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:33 ◼   ► have the money to buy so it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7893">TS</a>]

02:11:35 ◼   ► they have to also appeal to like Lexus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7895">TS</a>]

02:11:37 ◼   ► buyers and so it's hard to find really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7897">TS</a>]

02:11:40 ◼   ► nice sports cars that are also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7900">TS</a>]

02:11:43 ◼   ► fun and make you make you feel feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7903">TS</a>]

02:11:46 ◼   ► you know and so this does that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7906">TS</a>]

02:11:48 ◼   ► really special and that's that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:50 ◼   ► rare so I would definitely give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7910">TS</a>]

02:11:53 ◼   ► strong consideration if it's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:55 ◼   ► car that I was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7915">TS</a>]

02:11:56 ◼   ► I think I'm ruined now for electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7916">TS</a>]

02:11:58 ◼   ► forever but if I was not i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7918">TS</a>]

02:12:02 ◼   ► start look at this i mean it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7922">TS</a>]

02:12:05 ◼   ► be hot so John and Marco did not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7925">TS</a>]

02:12:08 ◼   ► that I had that I had received the Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7928">TS</a>]

02:12:10 ◼   ► they knew it was a possibility but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7930">TS</a>]

02:12:12 ◼   ► didn't know I had and earlier today John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7932">TS</a>]

02:12:14 ◼   ► and I were talking about the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:17 ◼   ► six-speed what is that the Accord sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7937">TS</a>]

02:12:20 ◼   ► I don't I already want to sleep even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7940">TS</a>]

02:12:22 ◼   ► thinking about it but the point is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7942">TS</a>]

02:12:25 ◼   ► car you can afford that will work that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7945">TS</a>]

02:12:27 ◼   ► that is to its credit it will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:29 ◼   ► work forever but um but yeah like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7949">TS</a>]

02:12:33 ◼   ► the idea of a six-speed sounds great the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7953">TS</a>]

02:12:35 ◼   ► idea of an accord yeah mostly sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:37 ◼   ► great but the idea of 250 horsepower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7957">TS</a>]

02:12:41 ◼   ► that is half as many horsepowers this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:43 ◼   ► thing and I know it's also the third the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:47 ◼   ► cost or probably even less than that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:49 ◼   ► a quarter the cost but oh my god it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7969">TS</a>]

02:12:52 ◼   ► it's intoxicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:53 ◼   ► it's just so intoxicating what about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7973">TS</a>]

02:12:55 ◼   ► that trunk space and the cavernous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7975">TS</a>]

02:12:57 ◼   ► backseat that your children who will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7977">TS</a>]

02:12:59 ◼   ► be small forever will thank you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:01 ◼   ► someday I mean this thing is reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7981">TS</a>]

02:13:02 ◼   ► large mean Declan spent in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7982">TS</a>]

02:13:04 ◼   ► it I will also say that a Aaron who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7984">TS</a>]

02:13:06 ◼   ► if you're if you recall you know six ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7986">TS</a>]

02:13:08 ◼   ► months pregnant at this point she and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7988">TS</a>]

02:13:10 ◼   ► Declan and I went to dinner Monday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7990">TS</a>]

02:13:12 ◼   ► and she did not like it and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7992">TS</a>]

02:13:15 ◼   ► because best it's not because it's fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7995">TS</a>]

02:13:18 ◼   ► like that doesn't bother her is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/7998">TS</a>]

02:13:21 ◼   ► noisy mostly didn't bother her but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8001">TS</a>]

02:13:23 ◼   ► got it with the rough ride because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:25 ◼   ► it in dynamic mode I believe for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:27 ◼   ► the trip and I don't recall if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8007">TS</a>]

02:13:29 ◼   ► manually shifting or not but she did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8009">TS</a>]

02:13:31 ◼   ► care for the shift because the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8011">TS</a>]

02:13:33 ◼   ► speed and the ferocity of the shifts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8013">TS</a>]

02:13:37 ◼   ► dynamic mode now once I turned it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8017">TS</a>]

02:13:39 ◼   ► advanced efficiency which again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8019">TS</a>]

02:13:41 ◼   ► basically Eco mode then it was fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8021">TS</a>]

02:13:43 ◼   ► it's actually very docile at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8023">TS</a>]

02:13:45 ◼   ► but when I when I had it even I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:48 ◼   ► normal or natural or whatever the N is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8028">TS</a>]

02:13:50 ◼   ► in DNA when I had it in that mode even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8030">TS</a>]

02:13:52 ◼   ► that she would she did not care for so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8032">TS</a>]

02:13:56 ◼   ► say yes she did not like it until I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8036">TS</a>]

02:13:59 ◼   ► of neutered it and some of that may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8039">TS</a>]

02:14:01 ◼   ► pregnancy and I asked her that and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8041">TS</a>]

02:14:03 ◼   ► said no I don't think so she said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8043">TS</a>]

02:14:05 ◼   ► it's pregnancy that's causing me to hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8045">TS</a>]

02:14:07 ◼   ► getting in and out of it but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8047">TS</a>]

02:14:09 ◼   ► pregnancy that's causing me to hate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8049">TS</a>]

02:14:11 ◼   ► jerkiness of it it's a fun car though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8051">TS</a>]

02:14:14 ◼   ► and I'm gonna be really really sad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8054">TS</a>]

02:14:16 ◼   ► give it back on Monday super duper sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8056">TS</a>]

02:14:18 ◼   ► oh you gotta buy one oh yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8058">TS</a>]

02:14:21 ◼   ► right answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8061">TS</a>]

02:14:22 ◼   ► eighty thousand dollars yeah well well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8062">TS</a>]

02:14:24 ◼   ► like start a patron or something okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8064">TS</a>]

02:14:26 ◼   ► that sounds great yes the the reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8066">TS</a>]

02:14:31 ◼   ► affluent white man a bunch of extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8071">TS</a>]

02:14:33 ◼   ► money so he can buy an Italian sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8073">TS</a>]

02:14:35 ◼   ► today and that sounds like a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8075">TS</a>]

02:14:36 ◼   ► I'm sure that'll be trending on patreon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8076">TS</a>]

02:14:39 ◼   ► momentarily isn't that basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8079">TS</a>]

02:14:41 ◼   ► YouTube stars try to do they're all on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8081">TS</a>]

02:14:43 ◼   ► patreon yeah Touche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8083">TS</a>]

02:14:46 ◼   ► had I'd lied oh man I would love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8086">TS</a>]

02:14:49 ◼   ► car it would probably work work for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8089">TS</a>]

02:14:51 ◼   ► minutes at a time but man would I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8091">TS</a>]

02:14:53 ◼   ► it it just like you're be able to view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8093">TS</a>]

02:14:54 ◼   ► yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8094">TS</a>]

02:14:56 ◼   ► true story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQZShZU/8096">TS</a>]