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246: I Just Want My Stories

 

00:00:00   oh god I can't imagine have to put a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   in a steering column Oh grow like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04   animal it's fun twisting twisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   twisting the key is fun yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   John how do you live man get in foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   down the clutch foot on the brake twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12   the key that motion is still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   it's the thing you know it's even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/17">TS</a>]

00:00:17   get in push the gas yeah yeah I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/17">TS</a>]

00:00:21   Jeff loves it when you just get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22   her car and leave it rolling down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   Drive running and unlocked all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/23">TS</a>]

00:00:30   windows open air conditioning on radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   blaring you're probably serious I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   this is happen at least once I I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   not left it like in year rolling but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   have left his car running and unlocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   [Laughter] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/42">TS</a>]

00:00:49   all right so let's let's start the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   in we'll start with some neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   follow-up apparently people pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   attention to racing cars and people pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   attention to Formula One I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   clear why and apparently pleaseplease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   right Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   apparently ever pretty much every racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   car has its paddles on the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   I was lamenting last week that the Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   Romeo had its paddles on the column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   which I've heard other like car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   reviewers and in people like that say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   it always has to be on the column but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   don't really understand why cuz I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   like it that way and I and I had at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   same time a BMW loner and f30 loner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/87">TS</a>]

00:01:31   that had the the paddles on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   wheel and I much preferred that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   anyway so a lot of people wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   say pretty much every racing car has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   paddles on the wheel you were right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/100">TS</a>]

00:01:41   that's where it should be and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   and I don't I don't remember who this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   was I apologize but somebody said to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   and this is just a theory but I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   makes sense to me maybe it's less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   big deal for racecar drivers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52   their wheels don't typically do like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   entire revolution if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   they're typically you know doing maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   30 or 60 or maybe a 90-degree turn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   but I would assume not often not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   more than that if I'm wrong I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   really care I was just just a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   exercise so no big deal but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   thought I'd cover that really quickly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   responses related this were due to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   musing about what f1 cars might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   knowing nothing about f1 and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   brain fart there that was my bad I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   like oh f1 cars they don't they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   even use pedals cuz they got all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   buttons on the steering wheel and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   there is a very often a button to shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   into neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   they still use paddles for everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   never mind on that I did have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/150">TS</a>]

00:02:34   the alpha-male back I was very very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   it pulled away in and I wept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   not really but I was sad and now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   back to my my BMW life is rough I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   you god I sound like such an intolerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45   piece of crap alright moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   let's toad actually it's getting no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   better as it turns out let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   our iPhone orders and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   thousand-dollar phones I quit this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   just going nowhere good so I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   of the biggest things that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   learned in this entire iPhone 10 cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   is that the rumor mill is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/182">TS</a>]

00:03:06   full of shit now like it's complete bull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   all of it it's heard out so much of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   was complete bull yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   and we were and we were complicit or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   least speak for myself I was complicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   in it because I was I was probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   most worried to the three of us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   not getting a phone until 2020 and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   freaking out about it for no reason well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   as well as it turns out spoiler alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   now we're he's in but but yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   just as deep in this as anyone else if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   not more so and I don't know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   trying to like do a retrospective which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   is a word that you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41   understand Marco but John will I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   trying to have my own little one-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45   retro meeting I believe it's called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   post-mortem in the parking lot yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   exactly right yeah so you do know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   anyway so I was I was tossing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   into the parking lot I was as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   having my one-person retro and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   really know specifically where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   notion came from I mean I was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   ones parroting it so I'm guilty I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   hundred and fifty percent guilty but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   where did we all get it in our brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   this is not just the three of us this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   the Royal us where did all the talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   heads get it in their brains that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   going to be this bad like Meredith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   discomfort the phone the phone is supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   constrained and people had guesses about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   how many they were going to make and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24   stories about parts shortages so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27   that's what it was it is like oh they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   can't make enough of those 3d dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   thingies and supposedly they lowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   their standards for the dot thing used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   to make more of them but then Apple said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   no we didn't do that that's BS I mean at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   this point fast few cycles you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   imagine that a lot of those stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   about apples manufacturing problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   blah blah blah are things motivated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/284">TS</a>]

00:04:48   not planted by competitors but like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   they're they're motivated stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   somebody wants to put that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   out there to sow doubt into Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   situation now they you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   have enough iPhone tends to go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   just like they don't have enough of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   then you have an iPhone you know sevens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   to go around certainly another jet-black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   ladies always shortages all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   very difficult to tell until Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   starts reporting numbers exactly how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   this shortage was but last show oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   know we were talking about was will we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   be able to get our phones forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   how many Apple cells and so and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   although we did touching that briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   and but everything was just estimates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   like that one newspaper whatever said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   they it looks like they're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   four times fewer phones in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/329">TS</a>]

00:05:34   years but we'll find out when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   reports how many iPhones did they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   between launch and the end of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   although they have a fiscal year I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   know how this all works but anyway we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   find out and it could be that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   numbers are dead-on really they sold 1/4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   as many as they did last year but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   not what we're talking about here what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   we're talking about here is we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53   staying up to 3m to otter phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   some of us were very very pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   about getting a phone anytime soon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   how did it go for everybody assuming we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   all stayed up I think it's pretty safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   to say that Marco and I did and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   I've got the mic I will say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   stayed up my experience was slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   worse than the watch than the LTE watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   my experience with the LTE watch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   stunningly good it was the the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   Store app was live at 301 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   like that I was in and out in no time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   this in this instance it was typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   Apple which is to say five to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   minutes late now in the defense of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   maybe that's a aggregation issue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/390">TS</a>]

00:06:34   something to do with CD enzyme now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   side of my my comfort zone but one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   or another it was like 305 ish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   everything woke up I did use the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   store app and surprisingly I heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   fair bit of reports from like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   and whatnot that the Apple store app was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   not the pretty much flawless experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   for everyone that it had been for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   last few years I had a few people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   that they actually had better lock on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   the website which is stunning because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   anytime I've tried that it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   disaster but anyway about 3:05 I ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   my phone and then I I rolled over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   ordered Aaron's phone and got both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   them and they should be here Friday so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   it worked out really really well for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   to a degree that I did not expect I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16   choose to ship to home I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   about doing a store pickup which I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   never done before and I know would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   me my phone earlier in the day because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   typically EPS doesn't get to us until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   like 5:00 or 6:00 at night on iPhone day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   but I was scared that just going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   that whole process especially when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   unfamiliar with it would would slow me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   down too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   and I would lose my chance so both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   them will be delivered to the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   sometime Friday so I'm working from home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   Friday if you happen to be listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   this from my job I will be here I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   be here at the house making sure that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   know I'm sick Marco how did how did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/466">TS</a>]

00:07:53   fare for you pretty similar I used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   app as usual the app didn't come up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   me until like you know 3:05 or 306 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   it was wait and like I was in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   slacks where like some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   already completing the entire orders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   reporting back what their dates were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   when they completed the order before my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   store was even up mmm but that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   all the time I mean the Apple ordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   process with the iPhones has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   really really good with just that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   exception the only part about it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   really feels unfair is that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24   huge variance in when people's stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   come up and it could be like 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   apart like it's a big variance and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   some people said they saw the store like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   at 2:58 so and some people didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   the store until 3:10 and like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   huge range usually I fall on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   worst side of this rings like usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   for me it's it's somewhere around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   five five or six minutes after the hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/525">TS</a>]

00:08:46   and you can try like alternating between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   and Wi-Fi to be on different networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   some people suggested even trying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   VPN I didn't get that far into it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   didn't think about it at 3:00 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   surprisingly I don't but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   the it just seems like it's a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04   crapshoot when your store will come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   and that makes a pretty big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   in whether you get one on day one or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   usually like if you're if yours comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   at 3:07 you're probably not getting day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15   one delivery on most high-profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   projects in parks you know the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   thing happen with the watch you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   like any kind of high profile through AM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   Apple longs usually this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   jet black phone same problem you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   like the whole rest of the system feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   very good and very fair and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   dramatically improved over the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   years and it's just that one piece that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   feels like if you're on the batter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   it feels like you're getting screwed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   no reason so I hope Apple can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   a way to improve that you know i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   never done anything on their scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44   before but I haves on high scale things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   it is possible to make everything go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   at you know and almost exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   time like that is a thing that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   happen on the internet it's not easy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   it's pop so like if they prioritize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   maybe they don't realize how annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   this is but I hope someone I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   whoever at Apple cares a lot about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   things about getting these right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   building in systems like the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   if it can't kind of the carrier it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   reserves it for you and emails you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   like tomorrow like a lot of thought has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   gone into that system and for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   part it's great and there's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   one big glaring problem with it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   hope they can figure out a way to fix or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21   at least let's reduce that variance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   CDN availability so that like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   every one store comes up in the same one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   minute instead of the same 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   that's the only thing about the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   that feels unfair a lot of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   competitive a lot of its cutthroat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   all of it feels fair except that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   would agree with that I can't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   any particular way that they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   better with it I mean I guess maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/643">TS</a>]

00:10:47   lottery but I think just like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   lamented when when wEDC went to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   lottery I think there's something to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   said for having the dedication to wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58   up at 3:00 in the morning if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   the East Coast to actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   sure that you get one you know initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   in the same way it rewarded you WDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   rewarded the people who had like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   different notification strategies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   order to know when tickets went on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   and and maybe maybe a more fair answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   would be a lottery but in if not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   think you're right that this is as fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   as it can get with the CDN propagation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   issues notwithstanding and and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   is like a lottery like a few blows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   guys to that I think there it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   more complicated thing than WC tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   like first of all you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   like allocating five thousand conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   tickets versus ten million phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   there's a pretty big difference in scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   yeah and and of course the phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   tied to carrier things and have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   checked out with carrier they're like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   the phones are way more complicated than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   WTC and there's way more of them so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   same system doesn't necessarily apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   again I think I did insist may have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   agree with you I think it's fine they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   just need to fix that one thing anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   so all that being said I did wake up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   three in the morning I did place an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   order successfully for my iPhone ten on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   day one delivery I didn't do store pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   up just a delivery store pick up is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   but you still have to wait in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   long line for pickup on day one like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   if you're not day one and you do pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   at the store it's much faster you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   there's basically no line or a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   short one but on day one you're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   on line just like everyone else you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   just waiting on like a different roped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   off section of the line they if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   you have reservation but you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   gonna be there for like two hours yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   so I'm looking forward to anyway just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   conclude the rumor mill thing before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   leave this topic in general the rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   mill has gotten so much wrong since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/752">TS</a>]

00:12:36   about a year ago or so when there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/756">TS</a>]

00:12:40   rumor going around that one of Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   durman's big sources was like escorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   out of campus very publicly I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   if that was true or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   but it certainly does seem like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51   not a lot of not a lot of leaks out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   Apple anymore and the by far the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/773">TS</a>]

00:12:57   credible information we got about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   iPhone 10 leaked out of Apple itself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   know in in there too software of leaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   it didn't leak out of anywhere else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   the the rumor mill was basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/786">TS</a>]

00:13:10   know empty they all they were doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   the most part was reporting on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   Apple accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   almost everything else they've reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   ended up being BS like now you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   we're getting more information about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   phone people are using the foam we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   hearing more from Apple executives like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   on the record stories and stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   certainly seems like the entire like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28   touch ID under the glass thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   completely false that there are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   multiply Apple executives directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   stating that in interviews and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   inclined I'm inclined to believe them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   don't think they would lie about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   kind of thing I think it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/818">TS</a>]

00:13:39   wouldn't serve a menorah lie about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   we're now hearing things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   that like the like face ID having issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   and everything those are probably BS to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   the component thing and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   adjustments Apple directly called that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   out and deny it which they never do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   things like that like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   unprecedented you know for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   so that also I'm inclined to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   because they so rarely ever comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   things like that publicly it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   was probably BS it seems like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   that was about supply being super short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/844">TS</a>]

00:14:08   was probably BS to because here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   thing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   so we every one us other podcasters Tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   Park iPhones the rumor sites we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   expecting this to be a massive backorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   situation we were saying on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   like you know 2018 isn't that far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   we were all saying like we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   lucky to get it you know waking up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   3:00 a.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/869">TS</a>]

00:14:29   we'd be lucky to get it by December and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   then you know it won't be too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   before it's 2018 well guess what right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   now today as we record almost a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   later the latest estimates say five to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   six weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   that's mid-december a week later you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   still order it and have it come this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   year because then this here's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   over it's like that's pretty good so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/888">TS</a>]

00:14:52   of two things is true either there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55   way less demand for this phone than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   anybody thought which i think is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   unlikely or most of those reports about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   there being incredibly short supplies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   and everything are wrong so and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   just adds even more to the pile of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   rumors that were wrong about the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   10 like we heard so many everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   about the software we heard was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   like everything about the home indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   situation the home gesture that was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   wrong like we heard so much wrong stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   about the iPhone 10 that it really this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   this has been a bad year for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   rumor game and in some ways to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   like you know good riddance it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   getting a little bit too good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   good it was certainly like a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   spoilery on a lot of the new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   you know I'm saying this here not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/939">TS</a>]

00:15:43   to call them out but also to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   have to kind of help the world help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   remind myself when I get caught up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   talking about these rumors cuz I - like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   you said Casey I - have been totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   complicit in discussing these rumors as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   if they were almost a sure thing or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   they were sure thing because for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   the rumors were that good like for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   so long in like the heyday of mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   Berman like two years ago they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/963">TS</a>]

00:16:06   like they were getting every detail of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   every product like it they were nailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   so much before before the release it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   it was actually really unfun it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   it was kind of fun to be a commentator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   but it was unfun to like watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   events and just see them unveil the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   things that you already knew about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   two months ago in great detail no less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   but we all all of us commentators and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   Apple fans and readers of these sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   and and followers of the Apple news we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   all have to now readjust from that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   that now we have to probably assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39   most of the rumors that we're hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   are wrong rather than assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   they're right and then figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   later than some of them are wrong let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45   do the opposite of helping you Mark Owen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   said once again that I generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   disagree with your assessment that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   rumor mill was off before apples leaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   we knew all screen oled phone with face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:58   ID face ID leaked face ID leaks so early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   before any software leaks and yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   were tons of reports about details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   were wrong and yes apples exec said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   know we committed to face ID and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   never really spent any time trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   under the screen or side things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   stuff like that that's you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   all well and good right but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   always a certain amount of noise so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   before Apple software leaks which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   massive and gave us huge amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   totally verified real Zee real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   information even before that we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:27   almost everything about this phone what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   it looked like the shape the size down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   to the millimeter the orientation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   cameras how many cameras there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   the fact that it would be all screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   fact that the scream was OLED the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   that it would detect your face that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   how you are unlock it everything else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   I think the still for these phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   products it is impossible so far for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   Apple to actually keep anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   this secret there was a lot of BS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   misinformation especially the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   and we've said this at the time we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   discussing them really like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   considering like you know using whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   it's going to have face ID under there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   it was like a month before or it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   have touch ID on the screen it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   a month before the an intro announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   it's like they're like displaced in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   where maybe this was true a year and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   half ago we're just hearing about it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   but always the the rumors especially on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   a lot of the rumor sites are phrased as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   if it's happening now and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   nonsensical like I mean who was it uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   Danis is named and rekey Oh what patent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   I don't pronounce his name something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   like that I'm pretty sure you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   on the Dan part it's Ritchie oh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   yeah some yeah one of apples people was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   it was an oppressed thing and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   he said that they had locked the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   for the iPhone 10 in November that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   November of last year right now today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:38   yeah they'd locked it a year ago right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   and yet there were rumors stories like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   two months ago that Apple is debating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   what should do with face ID versus touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   ID under the screen and know what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   know they're not like I mean that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   said we knew those were BS at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   but I still think that the combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   of the rumor mill knowing so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   this phone before any leaks and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   leaks basically putting highlighter over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   the details that are right and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   Xing out the ones that are wrong means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   that we still more or less knew what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   getting introduced and now I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   one way I kind of like being surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   but also kind of like you're in detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   so I could go either way but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   because the rumors especially motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   rumors like Oh apples having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   manufacturing problems Oh fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   uncertainty and doubt especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   things like that there's reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   them to exist and they're gonna be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   we're in a while I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   that big of a deal and okay I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   know I'm I'm not adjusting my attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   towards rumors because I don't mind is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   bunch of BS noise mixed in with the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   information and I still think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   ton more real information than we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   to have about things because this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   makes too many of these phones supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   chain is too leaky and we're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   have to accept that we're more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   going to know what the next phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   going to be like and that all we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   worry about of the detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   and then it sometimes like a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   before intro Apple tells so detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   accidentally by releasing about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   software no I mean I think you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   did hear a lot of rumors that ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   being true but the thing but like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   the rumor mill like the challenge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   always like knowing what parts of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   are actually likely to be real or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   and usually like you know during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   really good days of the rumor mills like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   two years ago you could be sure almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   everything they said was was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   true but until apple's software leaks we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:24   didn't know whether the products would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   be like possibility a B C or D or many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   of the details but we knew exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   it would look we'd said well not I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   like I save some of the images of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   like down to the millimeter you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   when people were selling cases for it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   knew what this thing would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   they were still questions like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   tell if it's tied into that screen can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   you right and same with the face ID like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   that rumor was really long it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   really long time of coming but didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   really get confirmed until much later I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:55   but what I'm saying it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   is this the next iPhone and they'd show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   you some 3d render yeah that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   was the next iPhone and we knew it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   long long time ago will it recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   your face that was the only credible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   rumor we had other than various other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   places to put touch ID and so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   the only debate it's like Oh surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   it'll do the face thing but is it gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   have touch ID at all anymore under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   screen on the back like that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   question but we knew like the face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   would be there so I feel like we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   really good picture of this phone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   all turned out to be correct and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   details that turned out to be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27   we're interesting especially when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   were discussing you know a touch ID in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   the back and the best one was the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   game of telephone rumour about touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   being on the home button do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   that rumour mm-hmm right and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   explicable now you see how it works like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   because you have to double tap the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   the power button to make Apple pay work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   and it puts a little highlight anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   over it right so somebody like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   game of telephone knew about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   you know through seven different people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   it becomes suddenly touch ID and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   power button which and I really made any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   sense because it's not big enough but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   anyway even things like that I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   seeing after the fact oh that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   what they were confused about there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   never touch adding the power button but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   somebody knew that piece of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   like you know lost in translation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   then all of a sudden this rumor came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   of it so I think that's just par for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   course of rumors I don't know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like the rumor mill was so sketchy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   then around the time with the lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   I think sources got really good and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   in the last year so like I think Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   had said if sources have been not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:30   good because I feel like we knew but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   even without software software releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   we knew exactly what this stuff would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   look like like to the pixels so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   I understand it's a terrible analogy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   now if it wasn't for software releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   we know we know the broad strokes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   right John but I don't think without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   home pod debacle we would have known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   specifically as we have in prior years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   but I don't think it's broad strokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   like we didn't have if it wasn't for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   that phone left in a bar we wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   have known exactly what the iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   looked like until somebody found one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   we knew exactly what the iPhone 10 would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   look like maybe some surface details we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   didn't know I feel like the iPhone 8 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   didn't have a really good grasp on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   surface details maybe but when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   millimeter perfect you know measured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   drawings of the phone months ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   time that turn out to be 100% accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   so I hear that people could build cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   based on them that is unprecedented we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   didn't have that for the iPhone 3GS for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   the iPhone for like back then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   being left in a bar was the only way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28   were gonna get that kind of thing so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   like that but there are so many there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   so much noise you said John like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   like part of the Apple rumor game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   always trying to figure out like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   know what what if this will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   cause like everybody who you know floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43   their head near Apple or is a sub is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   you know friend of a nephew of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   supplier or something like everybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   was anywhere near Apple can leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:53   something about what they think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   might be working on because they had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   part made or they heard from a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   a friend of a friend who works at a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   at a factory or you know something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   that there's always something about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   or even you know people on campus who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   leaked you know people inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   company they can leak about things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   they've seen or heard about around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   campus but none of that has a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   correlation to what actually gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   released and how things actually ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   and what the final version of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   actually look like or do or work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   the challenge of the rumor mill has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   always been okay you have all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   information ten percent of it is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   but you don't know what ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   until the event okay and that part has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:32   has reverted back to as bad as it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   to be that part was better two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   and that part is now back to where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   was ten years ago and which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   all over the place and not that useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   so that's what I'm saying like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   that it's not that we won't have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   many of the details ahead of time but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   won't know which of the details we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:53   seen are true and which will ship you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   know and that's the kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   used to leak a lot better than it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   now and that's what I'm very happy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   now but again that's also what it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   to now and it's now adjust myself to by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:07   default disbelieve rumor sites rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   than by default believing them the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   I've been doing the last two years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   don't know if you want to change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   default but and on this front I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:20   the iPhone 10 was actually a tricky case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   too because so much was changing we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   so much was changing with the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:26   so with so much up for grabs there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   less sort of bedrock that you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   know say well it's an iPhone and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   two minor things change once you get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   of all the stuff on the front and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   it all screen there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   possibilities with how that can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   especially before the software leaks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   was that's why it was I did like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   what happened it's not to date where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:44   does it go it's not under screen is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   on the back is it on the power button it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   like you know because more things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   up for grabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:50   if this pretend that 10 doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   and this is just the eight you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   there there wouldn't have been a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   rumor about touch ID being in the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   button on the eight because they'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   like well touching is where it always is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   like look there's the phone like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   you know only a few things are changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   so the bigger the break from the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   the more possibility is for random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   guesses and rumors and misheard things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   because so much more seems possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   right so you've entertained it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   possibility because you know who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   what they'll do and then of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   software League sort of you know refine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   that all that well we'll see you next it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   was presumably next phone they will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25   have a catastrophic so for a leak like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   this and we'll get to play the game all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   the way up to the end where we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   you know there will be more constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   that there won't be suffering you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   that the the one after the ten is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   going to be as a radical departure as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   the ten is from the seven right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   we'll have a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   competing theories and we'll see how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   we do on them but it still seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   you know a couple months before our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   iPhone time next year we will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   measured drawings of exactly what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   phone would look like maybe we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   know the exact colors in names though so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   kept that going for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   all we know is that it'll be a new shade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   of space gray yeah will they ever run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   out they should just just line them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   and see you know when do they have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   from like you know 8-bit color or 16-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   color contain all contain all the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   Gray's all this is to say let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   you about my iPhone I was just about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   add so I first time I ever did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:18   getting a phone for my wife we both end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   up waking up because really when one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   person wakes up like look everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22   gonna be up I was very unlucky in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:27   CBN lottery the store did not come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   for with me for me for like 10 or 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:33   well I eventually got through on first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   was actually the website so I'm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   the category of one of the people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   furiously forced quitting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   relaunching the app on you know on Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   and LTE did not let me get to it I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   it first in the website but because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   wife was also doing this on multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   devices she's doing it on her Mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   her phone before I went through the auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   process right to the end because I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   what she wanted but before I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57   button about that point I had walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   downstairs and wanted to check are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   are you in the same process it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   she was she was right at the by step as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   well so I didn't actually pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   trigger on my by she pulled the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   on hers two to three weeks that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11   my ship date is so I did not get day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   I was unlucky in the unintentional CDN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:17   lottery but two or three weeks it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   that bad you know she was too happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   it because she was also worried that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   would be really a long time and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   didn't want a way to relive time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24   he's kind of getting sick of her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   so two or three weeks is acceptable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   her oh I forgot yeah she got the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   and we did a Verizon and they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   thing where it's like we're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   trouble contacting your carrier which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   a vast improvement I tweeted you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   tweeted that might have seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:40   snark but wasn't I called it progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   this is progress this is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   before it's still sad that they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   the carriers suck and they can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   this work but at least it doesn't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   the process but there was you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   good 24 hours of fretting because you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   through the process and it's like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1734">TS</a>]

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00:32:07   called me to ask if they could format my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1927">TS</a>]

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00:32:24   there were some bad data on my platters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1944">TS</a>]

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00:32:30   issue and that they had to reformat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   hard drive to get rid of the bad blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   on my platters and I was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1955">TS</a>]

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00:33:17   then the fan spins up well it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/1997">TS</a>]

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00:34:28   apparent reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2068">TS</a>]

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00:35:43   that manifest in the GPU getting hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2143">TS</a>]

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00:36:00   the corrupted part and that causes it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2160">TS</a>]

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00:36:03   and that happens over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   again and that causes some subsystem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   work harder than it should because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   basically you know probabilistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   constantly crashing depending on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   the code path that hits the corrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   part of the library is hit and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   see that and except maybe a in a console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   line somewhere if you're lucky and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   would cause temperature go up so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   my most charitable interpretation of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   there might be a legit reason for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   to erase your disk although that's why a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   lot of people say I did a combo updater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   and it fixed everything like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   reinstalling the OS often fixes it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   because it'll replace that library with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   the correct version of it again stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   like that has happened it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   doesn't explain a temperature specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   thing I would expect to see more crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   or whatever but I'll bet that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   issues like that are one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   why they've routinely wanted to erase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   your drive just to reduce the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   variables essentially like they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   have just said we don't know but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   out of ideas and this is always the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   thing we try and sometimes it fixes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55   so it's worthwhile and so they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:59   okay so we had somebody write in who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   an anonymous Apple care advisor and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   said that they were servicing a 20-17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:09   MacBook Pro 13 inch for spacebar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   stopped functioning Apple care had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   determined the issue was related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   accidental damage and therefore was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   covered under warranty they held their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   MacBook Pro for a recoat price of 475 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   holy smokes although the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:27   disputes prying the key off in an effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   to fix the issue herself I don't doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   that she probably did the point is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   customers would have no reason to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   and perform surgery on their brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   laptops with their car keys if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   keyboards worked rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38   in the first place $500 to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   keyboard that is bananas I thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:45   was a good story because it shows just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   how things can go wrong thus far we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   been talking about it like oh we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   really know what the reliability issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51   is but these things are also under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   warranty and eventually they won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   and it will be worse but this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   know this is example of good Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   customer service in the end but sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:01   a trap for customers like if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   happens to you you get a new laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   the spacebar stops working and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   decide to try to pry the key cap off now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   maybe you're just frustrated maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   you're impatient maybe you don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   wallet bother taking this store maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   you've pried the key caps off past Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   laptops and have fixed it yourself by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   blowing stuff out or whatever but either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   way if you do this and like and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:22   and when you do with these through these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   new keyboards there's like no way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   it back on successfully like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   doomed the prying off the key gaps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   not a thing you should do it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   a thing that Apple repair centers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   that's why they have to replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   whole top of your computer right if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   do that and then bring it into the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   store they're gonna say well I see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42   problem you pried off your spacebar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   that's not covered under warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   because you essentially damaged your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   computer and if you said no no I've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   pried it off because before the spacebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   wasn't working you know by the letter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55   the of the Apple Apple care laws like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   if you pry the key or if you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   repair your own computer and mess it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   we don't pay for that now you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   reason this is good Apple customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   service is that the person involved was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   you know able to make an exception and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   override the repair center whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   likely the genius understands like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   only reason your prize is off because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   was broken I don't think you're sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   around deciding to pry off your key caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   for the hell of it right and so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   the right thing and I'm letting this get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   repaired under warranty but when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   warranty runs out like what we just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   wait for the first person to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   stuck key and exactly the the time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30   their warranty runs out and realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   stuck key equals four hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   seventy-five dollars and that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   be a very very sad person a person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   will probably start considering how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   convenient it might be to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   laptop without ever touching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   keyboard on it maybe they are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   market for a new Mac Mini I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:47   remember which show it was I heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   on but did you hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   repairing the back glass on an iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55   is something like $500 yeah it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   it's it's like a full replacement cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   basically so yeah it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   over $500 and notice AppleCare cost $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   now on on the iPhone 10 and did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:08   all get AppleCare I did not I who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   living dangerously I buy it for tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15   because she wants the peace of mind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   knowing that and she does drop her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   occasionally we do have cases we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   yet to break one but still for her as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:24   wanted to buy it because that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   feel better for mine I I never have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:29   my policy has been you know because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   Affleck cares like I think it's like 130 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   or 140 ish for the regular iPhone eights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   and then for the iPhone 10 it's 200 am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   thinking here is the first time I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   to have a very expensive repair I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   reconsider my policy of having not spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   $200 every year up until that point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   until it happens unless that happens I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   gonna keep not spending $200 to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   the phone that I don't necessarily need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   to be protected and well you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   let it ride from there I'm the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   person who I don't really drop my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   like all I've never dropped gadgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   before or like I think I've dropped a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   phone in the total of time that I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   iPhones the entire last 10 years I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:14   I've dropped it maybe twice and neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   time it was severely damaged so I hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   don't need it and if I start needing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   then I'll eat that first repair as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   life lesson and I'll start getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   then until it happens I'm saving 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   bucks a year I did get AppleCare plus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   my iPhone 7 and if you recall I dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:35   it when I was running with it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   I'm an idiot and that was my first my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   first iPhone casualty I have also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   developed a deep scratch in the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   since that happened I have no earthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   idea how so the good news is if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   this repaired a second time the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:49   Care will have paid for itself but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   is the first phone I've run in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   time without a case and two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   dollars on top of 1,200 or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   paid is a lot of money so I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   leather case that will be a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   late behind my phone because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   ordered it today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   and I think I'm going to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   having a leather case and hopefully not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2527">TS</a>]

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00:43:28   really enjoy it Casper is also not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2608">TS</a>]

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00:43:54   our show John it is all coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2634">TS</a>]

00:44:00   millhouse with regard to the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   tell us about this yeah so a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   announced essentially announcements from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   Apple because they have videos this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   strange sort of out of time not at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   but very much like WWC videos explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   some of the new AP eyes in TV OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   11-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   - which is not yet released but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   presumably will be in beta soon so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   very first thing I did was went out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   my Apple TV and turned on beta software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   updates which is the thing that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   do if you sign up for the beta program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   you get a menu thing that says in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   software update thing do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   also consider beta update I said yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   I said please update me and it did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   update but then when I rebooted I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   still in 11.1 and now every time I check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   for an update it says I have the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   version so I do not have 11.2 I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   know if anybody has it may be that beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   is not out yet but anyway why do I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   11.2 well a couple of reasons first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   there is a new API called AV display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   I shouldn't even know if it's new API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   unfortunately I have not had time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   watch this video but this there's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   api's that allow you as an app developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   to switch video display modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:08   confusingly there's a second set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   screenshots showing you know what the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   OS thing will look like where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   options now to say automatically match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   the frame rate of the source video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   automatically match the HD arnis of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   source video and you can turn them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   on and for a little while I was confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   well which is it is it that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   developers have to update their apps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   switch modes or is it that Apple TV will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35   simply detect the framerate and quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   of the video that's displaying an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   TV you'll switch modes as far as I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   tell it is you need both for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:44   developers need to update their apps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   use a new API and the new API won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   actually switch your mode unless the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   preference is set in your Apple TV to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   say hey if an application says that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   wants to change the mode to 24 hours per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   second or whatever or some multiple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   that allow it to do it again I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   actually installed this beta because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   they won't send it to me so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   entirely sure so I'm just going off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05   several articles on this topic we'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   a link in the show notes they are so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   can go home which I think just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   summarizes the information that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   provided but anyway this is all good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   news the good news is you will not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   to go to that menu and pick from umpteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   different formats every time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   going to play a video which of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   you know the exact frame rate for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   it's also good news with people with HDR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   TVs because previously apparently it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   if you turn to HDR on and played some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   non HDR video it would try to display it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   in HDR and make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   gross which is just terrible I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   know that because I don't have an HDR TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   my only fear now is that these features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:38   will come and they will be 4k only not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   Apple TV 4k only but will only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   available if you have a 4k television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   because right now I can't tell the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   TV output at some optimal 24 Hertz to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:52   television because I have a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   definition a non 4k television and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:58   don't have a 24 Hertz option or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   multiple theraph which is a shame if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   have a 4k TV you do I'm hoping all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   mode switching and everything is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   confined to 4k like these other settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   are so we'll see but I'm excited by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   things are going in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   all right let's ask a TP drew wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15   know what do you recommend for antivirus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   on High Sierra don't run it don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   yeah that someone asked me this at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22   too and the reason I put this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   in there is that this is a surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   common question especially for new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   users what should I get for antivirus my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   answer to all these people is do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   install antivirus software on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   maybe that sounds terrible and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   people think I'm an old fogy and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   in this modern day and age you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   antivirus software and bla bla but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   my experience over many many years being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   forced to run many different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   antivirus software at work I hate all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   them and all of them made my Mac worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   and at home I have never ever ever ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   run antivirus software all iMacs and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54   far as I'm aware I have never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   problems with viruses so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   recommendation is do not run and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   virus software on your Mac it's all bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   Marco any other thoughts I think exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   what John says - the work experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   part yeah I mean at this point I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:12   say that antivirus software on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   I think probably is a bigger threat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   itself being malware than any malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   that you would find and even when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   working correctly not that it's malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   but it messes with your computer it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   it makes it slow it makes it annoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   makes things not work that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   supposed to work the headaches you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   get from the antivirus software itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   far outweigh the supposed to protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   that it and honestly it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   protect you the real question is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   just find a long time magazine maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   me like you know 1984 Mac user but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   you know humble brat right I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   saying like find someone who's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   using her Mac for years and ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   what do you run for antivirus like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   you find a Mac user who has not run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   antivirus and has been you know overrun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   by viruses like Marco Casey have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   ever run antivirus software on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   my work computer but that's because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   compulsory not because I choose it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   mean your home one nope even when I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   a work computer I didn't have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   had any problem with viruses I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   not only have I never had a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   a Mac virus I've never even heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   anybody else having a problem with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   ever saying yeah I mean more likely it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   gonna be you know social engineering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   getting you to click on some button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:24   you're not supposed to know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   know and not to say there aren't volun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   abilities Mac's are totally vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   to malware and viruses 100% and humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   are completely vulnerable to social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   engineering and things that trick you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   to clicking something you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   supposed to do right but the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   wasn't like our Mac's horrible the virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   they are the question was should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   install antivirus software and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   answer that is no because that software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   is bad and makes your Mac worse now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   remember that Apple does have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   rudimentary anti-malware stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   you're getting with your note or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   they do push updates to it when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   identify new malware I think it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   gonna save you from everything but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   not as if you're completely unprotected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   so this next one was an email submission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   and I thought it was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   Charlie Ullman rights if iOS and Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   were available to install and integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   with any hardware would you still use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   iPhone and a Mac and he continues for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   this thought experiment assume that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   works well on all devices none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   windows driver crap software updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   would happen just as regularly none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   the Android fragmentation crap you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   use any of the new hardware on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   devices without issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   NFC Microsoft 10 and dial Google pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   squeeze etc and the prices don't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34   meaning the Galaxy S II wouldn't cost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   much as an iPhone the surface book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   wouldn't cost as much as a touch of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   Mac Mac Book etc I've thought about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   for several days now because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   wanting to added this to the to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   notes and I don't think I have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   really strong answers because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   really do think for me that the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56   Hardware out there is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   hardware I would probably at least flirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01   with a thing pad especially that retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   one that just came out mmm mmm I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   John is getting really sick to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   stomach hearing me to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   but man I think that looks good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13   anyway I don't think I've ever seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   phone that I've that I've longed for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   I don't really ever see computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   I'm terribly enthusiastic about outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   of what comes from Apple and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   know if I'm just if it's Stockholm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   Syndrome at this point or what but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   than maybe a think pad I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   there's anything but what about you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   I would definitely use non-apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:38   hardware because I would get basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   the modern equivalent of my 2008 Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   priority got a big computer with room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   for lots of stuff inside including a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45   really big gaming video card and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   doesn't sell anything like that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   would have gotten that long ago like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   that's what I'm waiting around for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   that you know a Mac Pro that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   buy if I could get third-party hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   and run Mac OS and not have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   any of the you know hackintosh stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   whatever yes I definitely would for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   phones I also have never seen a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   that has made me think I would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09   have that hardware than my iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   hardware even it was down to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   like mini USB versus lighting that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   no contest and us PC versus lighting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   think I still kind of prefer lighting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   I don't think there's any hardware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22   would tempted me especially now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   have like the sevens the the six and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   seven size phone and we'll see what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   think of the 10 when it gets here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   for my desktop Mac computer in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   absence of a Mac Pro that suits my needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   I would definitely be running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   third-party hardware Marco I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:42   seen another phone that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   actually thought like I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   stop using my iPhone and go use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   please it has never come close I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   very impressed when I saw the what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   the Samsung the s8 the one the what not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   the not the note but the one that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   out like six months ago that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   edge-to-edge ish like that one I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   very impressed when I saw that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   wasn't so compelling that I like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   to lose everything I know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   hardware now this is a great question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   the sense that it assumes that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   still use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:11   use the software that we like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   all the Apple software because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14   really is like you know that that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   that's what matters more like ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   I would take Apple hardware that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:22   me miserable before I would leave Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   and iOS for the alternatives so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:30   good question for the phones yeah no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   for you no tablets no for laptops maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:37   I think I might consider using PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   laptops especially oh you absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   would after all this kvetching about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   keyboard you absolutely would go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   different laptop o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   PC laptops are kind of ugly though well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   I don't care about the look so much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   as the functionality for me cuz like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   anyway so I'm very happy right now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   just having an older Apple laptop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   know in the future when that plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:00   becomes untenable I hope their modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:04   ones at that point again are better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   me then I'll just switch to the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   ones or even if they're not better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   maybe I'll just want to suck it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   deal with it so I don't so I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   to like mess with hackintosh Azure old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   laptops or anything else but if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18   like run Mac OS perfectly well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   something better from the PC world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   you know at least better for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   preferences sure I would consider that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:28   there isn't a lot out there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   honestly that much better you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   it's very similar to when I mentioned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   couple episodes ago how like reviewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   always positively review like whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   there's like a new surface book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   whenever there's like a new Google phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   a new Nexus or pixel phone like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   reviews were always really positive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   then the reviewers don't end up using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   them like they're like oh this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   great phone for somebody else and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   like they switch back to their iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   and their MacBook like the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   alright and so like it with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   this alternative stuff it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3298">TS</a>]

00:54:59   good quality long-term reviews and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:03   times the long-term reviews are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04   less positive than the initial ones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   so it's hard to really know as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:09   somebody who admittedly does not try you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   know not Apple hardware almost ever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   hard for me to really know how good of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:16   stuff is but certainly I would have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   open mind to it and on the desktop I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   know similar to John right now Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   doesn't make what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25   need they said they're going to so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:29   hope they do unlike John I don't need my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   Mac Pro or my Mac desktop I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   it to be a standard tower with a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   bunch of like card slots for gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   cards or drive bays or anything else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   don't actually need that the trash can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   Mac Pro would have been great for me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   they just updated it like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   have been great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   they didn't which is unfortunate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   like if they if they could have if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   could just deliver me that with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   not the overheating GPUs issue maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   deliver me that with modern internals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   that can drive a 5k display and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   would be great I would love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   not a lot of other people would but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   would so I'd be totally fine with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   but in the meantime they don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   and there's I don't know when that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   when they're new Mac Pro is coming I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   assume that it's hopefully next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   hopefully in the earlier part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   year but I really have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   so desktops I would use non Apple hopper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25   because I feel like that's where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   would matter the least that I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   non Apple hardware like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   touching it really you can you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   can use someone else's screen and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   not that bad you know it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   that big of a deal to use someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   desktop you know especially if you build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   a tower it's under your desk you barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   even see it but yeah it's a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   question III like I like having I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   thinking about this it kind of it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   of prompts you to like look around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   PC and Android world to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51   alternatives even are but ultimately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   don't I don't find a lot of them very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   compelling it would be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   interesting to build my own computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   again I used to do that you know I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   to build build my own PC and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   enjoyed that hobby that was a really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04   hobby yeah yeah I agree it would be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   of interesting to see to see like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   that's like now I you know from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   little glances I've seen here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   from people posting about and stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   doesn't look doesn't seem like it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   different it seems like looks - it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   actually about the same just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   know now there's like there's been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   five new versions of ATX since then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   it's still like fairly similar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:27   now I think everybody water cools now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   before you know back then it was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   more of a specialized thing that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   people didn't do now water cooling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   much more common and there's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   blue LEDs okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   would not consider a feature so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   would be kind of fun to build computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   again but ultimately you know if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:47   gives me a really nice Mac Pro I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   pretty happy with that I forgot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   address a lot of tops because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:52   like laptops but if forced to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   laptop would you you know stick with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55   Apple one I'm in a bind because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   all the laptops except for the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   ones I find them less pleasing looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   than the Apple ones and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:06   makes a difference to me and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   like it's like you can build your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   laptop like you can with desktop right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   so you don't have as many options there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   but all I've heard about the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   laptops and they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   transformable tablets and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   that is that they have all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   weird reliability problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   durability problems with the fabric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   everything like that line of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   is the most appealing to me but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   be wary of actually buying one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   myself because of all the reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   problems I've heard for the service book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   so you know I'm like Casey I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   a thing for the ThinkPad so I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   think there's a lot of laptop hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:38   out there although if pressed if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   forced I'll probably still just grin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   bear it and get an ugly PC thing just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   I could have ports and battery life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   all the things that we've complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   about a million times I will say there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   was a really nice segment on back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   about I think it was the last week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   episode Microsoft wraps offered to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:59   Dan Benjamin a surface book honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:03   don't know I can't tell you which model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   some kind of surface book to just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   out something that could be a tablet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   a laptop I think can they all do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   don't know whatever anyway they sent him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   one to try out and he talked about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   the show and the discussion was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   very good you know Dan is somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   is mostly an apple person but he he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22   recent PC experience also and so to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26   his impressions of the service book were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   very good and overall despoil it overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   his impressions are pretty positive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   it's worth hearing that to know like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   have kind of a glimpse into the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   side of like what it's like when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   mostly Apple person talks all talks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   lot about a modern nice Windows laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:45   and especially you know like the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   hearing about like what it's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   have crossovers between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51   tablet mode and you know happy being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   able to have like a pen or touch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   put in a desktop OS you know Dan came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   out of that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   out of that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   like Apple should have something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   this for Mac OS and if you're a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   big fan of the iPad you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   shouldn't listen to this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   but I think there's a lot to to consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:12   there they bring up so that that's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   listen if you're interested in this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   of stuff finally Tim Walker wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   know any thoughts about Apple firing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   engineer after his daughter posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   hands-on video of the iPhone 10 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   YouTube so the chief summarizer in chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   had his on basically what happened was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   and I think it was a little while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   but but certainly after the announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   an Apple employee who we have later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   found out works somewhere in the RF team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   I guess the radio frequency team had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   daughter into Cafe Max and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44   filming a vlog and she also was handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:48   his phone like he handed her his phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   which was an iPhones hand again post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   announcement but free you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:57   everyone had them and she was flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   through the home screen and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   you know done the Kremlinology on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:02   but apparently well that's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   loaded term now isn't it I haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:06   the Zapruder film or how we pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   on this but um anyways I guess there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:12   were some apps that you wouldn't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   to see somebody said something about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   QR code that you wouldn't expect to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   so there was some unreleased stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   this phone for sure well this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:24   somehow or another got popular and I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   that only because the the the young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   woman who had who had filmed it and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   it on YouTube had said you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32   in so many words I have no followers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   don't know how this became popular etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   etc but somehow or another did and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   have since fired her dad they fired this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   engineer and you know Tim Walker wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   to know well how do we feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:45   and my initial reaction was man that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   it's kind of crappy because the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:52   was already announced everyone knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   it was like what's the big deal but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:59   I found out well there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   unreleased software on there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   know maybe this QR code thing and some I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   guess there may have been a code name or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   two shown on the screen at one point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   and that made me less confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   Apple was being a bunch of jerks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:15   then I was reminded of when Marco you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   and I went to Apple last year in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:21   and we went to IL one or one ili always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24   get it backwards we went to the the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   building and then we went to the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   the that they would occasionally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:30   product announcements in and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   Steve Jobs quote a quote outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   theater and and I think both of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   certainly I you know took a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   it put it on like Instagram or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   like that and one of our mutual friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:41   who works at Apple actually privately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   wrote me and was like who was letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   you take a picture on campus that's BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   in the picture was of a Steve Jobs quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   like and he was genuinely like perturbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   that this picture was taken much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   posted anywhere he was perturbed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   that my escort had allowed me to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   which i think is kind of freakin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   ridiculous but that I tell the story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   tell to just emphasize how how deep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:09   lies within Apple employees and so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   the end of the day I think you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15   the dude knew the rules like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   shouldn't have been filming in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   place and definitely should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   seen pre-release software if it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   that he handed her the phone and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   off me I don't see that as that big a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:28   deal but since apparently there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   there was some unreleased stuff on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   device that changes my tune quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:35   heavily Marco how do you feel um I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   down a little harder than you but nearby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40   basically you know we you know none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:44   us have ever worked at Apple and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   you know internal hiring policy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50   that that you know and it's hard to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   what should or shouldn't happen based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   what we know from the outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   situation because we don't we obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   don't know everything cuz we don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   there we don't know this person we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   know everything that was inadvertently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   revealed on that video or could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   been revealed or what the policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   exactly are written apples not that keen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   on sharing things like that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   public but but we you know I I can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   that when when we were there like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:17   last thing I would have ever thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   do was shoot a vlog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   I would I could I can't even imagine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   know to me that that just shows a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   severe lapse in judgment and and not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:32   the woman who was vlogging I mean she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   wasn't the employee you know her father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35   who was permitting her to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   bring her into campus knowing she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   doing this like that you know he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   one who has the who has the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   judgment here I whether it's against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   as they're written or not I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   don't know what the rules are I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   never assume that would be okay and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   and I don't think anybody should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   surprised that he lost his job as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   result you know to let somebody in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   you know you said that it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   maybe it wouldn't matter if the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:02   was off no I'll go even further the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   phone was not out yet and the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   embargo wasn't even listed like reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08   hadn't even been permitted yet to permit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:12   to bring someone into campus as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   employee and to permit them to shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:17   video of your running phone of this non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   publicly available phone I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   common sense that that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:23   problem yeah yeah and and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   even considering that it was allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   running internal software which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/3928">TS</a>]

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01:13:39   mkbhd s and that was kind of weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:43   naturally I was a little mainly offended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:48   that's probably too strong word but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:49   was a little like man why don't I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   chance at this like his podcasting not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   thing does that not count I give up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55   that long ago oh I know I it's a selfish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58   reaction full on but it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:02   was my honest reaction and it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   of I wasn't upset about it but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   kinda like what the hell and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07   talked with the Joseph Linsky and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:11   Matt Alexander and Matt Alexander put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14   a really really great post about kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:17   what do you think about when you're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   product company and releasing a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   product and how do you control the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   and I am unfairly summarizing it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:29   saying the the the takeaway I had from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   it was that these youtubers that I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   of you know fluffed off is oh who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   they they're not important they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   actually quite important just to peep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   with it to circles that I don't pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   attention to and I'm embarrassed to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   that didn't occur to me until I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   talked to Joe and Matt about it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   seems obvious in retrospect and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   probably really smart on Apple's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   because the reality of the situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   I'm unlikely to wait very long to buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4496">TS</a>]

01:15:01   iPhone 10 and most of the listeners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   this show given infinite money would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   probably buy an iPhone 10 tomorrow if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:09   they haven't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10   so does Apple really need to convince us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   to buy an iPhone 10 no not really but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:17   what about the people that care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   fashion or care about things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   not just technology and so the reactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:25   to this were varied some very angry some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:28   confused some common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   of both and then shortly thereafter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:34   think it was Tuesday morning that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   that a lot of the traditional reviewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   like the Gruber's of the world the Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   Snell's etcetera when their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   embargo was lifted and then we got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:47   of the stuff that we expect as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   nerds but it's been an interesting few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:52   days watching Apple try to you know pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:57   the strings on this puppet and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   out the best way to get this PR wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:04   orchestrated I don't know that I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   talking for a while thoughts I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   have a lot of thoughts on this it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   seemed weird it seemed like a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   approach and it's really hard to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   about this without you know somebody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   saying like oh well we're just old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:19   out of touch because everyone gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   everything from YouTube now and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   even arguing that people on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   shouldn't get you know pre-release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   review unit access and no I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   actually should you know I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   should go to where the people are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:33   makes total sense and YouTube is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   many of the people are now so that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   total sense the thing about it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   seemed weird to me is that compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   all past launches like this it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:46   weird that they added these YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48   channels that honestly many of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   not very popular as you said like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   it was like it wasn't like mkbhd was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   there at that event you know earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   than everyone else like I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   what seemed weird about it was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   addition of the people who got it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:05   the subtraction of the people who didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:07   it's again it's not weird that youtubers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:10   got access it's weird that none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:13   press did basically like that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   the press that usually does as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:20   who follows this stuff and like I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23   want to read those first reviews maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:26   that makes me a dinosaur but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   most part almost none of the press that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   usually gets review units got one at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:36   or with more than like 12 hours before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:39   before the publishing deadline so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:42   just it was weird as a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   most of what we have to go on is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:45   surface level and that to me is deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:49   unsatisfying like I want I wanted like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:53   the in-depth reviews from Gruber and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   from like other yet like the other tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   publications that usually get them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   to not have that felt weird and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:04   think it's a good I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   projects confidence from Apple like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   give so many of these reviewers less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   than a day to review their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   suggest that Apple doesn't want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   spend that much time before they publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   their thoughts and I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   a like even if the iPhone 10 is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   and by the early reports it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   it probably is that doesn't look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   like that that doesn't exceed confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   in their product to say like we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   even gonna give you enough time to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:30   things like battery life or face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32   reliability like that's that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   look good for the product so it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   weird so in an ideal world and I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:39   people suggest to like well they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   have enough to go around that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42   completely wrong they have plenty if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:46   can still log on right now and order one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   that comes in December they have plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   Apple could have given phones to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   reviewers with more time if they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54   to this was clearly a choice not to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   that and I just think that part is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4736">TS</a>]

01:19:00   feels off about this that like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   have those in-depth reviews from tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:06   writers big publications you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:09   hardly any of them we have we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   basically like three and and it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:15   to have so few for such an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   products coming out of Apple I want more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:21   so I think it's easy especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:26   you've been following Apple for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   time to start getting into a tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:33   wagging the dog situation where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   really start to believe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:41   publications and people who get early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:45   access to Apple stuff and write their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:48   reviews that that we like to read are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   getting it because of some kind of merit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:56   that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:57   like for the original iPhone is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:58   example like the original iPhone went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:01   Polk Mossberg at big and Levy I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:05   you know get them all there all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   but that's all right so that's this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   went to but the reason we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:12   comfortable with that worldview is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   because it went to Wall Street Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   New York Times USA Today and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:19   Steven Levy working for that I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:20   maybe time but anyway famous old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:24   who've been doing this for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25   working for famous powerful influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:30   old institutions and so it fit with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33   the mental model of if you are the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:37   York Times you get the iPhone early if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   you're The Wall Street Journal you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:40   the iPhone only and even if you're USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   Today which maybe Mick paper right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:45   it's extremely popular right of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:48   USA Today gets one even new visa Oh USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50   Today what does that review gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:51   like haha USA Today right but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:54   really big and so that all fits with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:58   model of like the tail being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01   publication's wagging the dog that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:02   Apple it's like Apple has no choice they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   have to give it to the Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:06   Apple has no choice they have to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:08   New York Times to the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:09   just too important right but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   never been the situation the tail is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:15   wagging the dog Apple has a PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:18   department whose job it is to choose how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20   best to promote their products to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22   public it just so happens that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:25   strategy chosen by that PR department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   has fit with the narrative that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:31   who get early access get it based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   prestige long time relationships with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   Steve Jobs long time in the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   like whatever whatever criteria that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   that we had come to accept there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   that's the reason they're getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:43   when you that should never have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:47   reason they were getting it strictly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   speaking it should have been that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:52   it's a second degree thing where apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   like the best way to promote our product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:57   is to have the most prestigious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   newspapers promoted let's go find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00   most person whose newspapers so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   second degree it's not as if like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   that we have no choice but to give it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   the most prestigious newspaper because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07   if we don't do that we'll be hurt is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   it's a selection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   a strategy and an execution of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   strategy in recent years Apple has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/4932">TS</a>]

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01:24:11   Mossberg he's retired now but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5051">TS</a>]

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01:24:30   into stark relief and then a little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5070">TS</a>]

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01:24:37   people and expecting them to have a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5077">TS</a>]

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01:25:23   kind of stuff on YouTube on podcasts if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5123">TS</a>]

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01:25:35   possible to get review hardware for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   phone after it's announced but before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5137">TS</a>]

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01:25:46   question Apple has to ask is not does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5146">TS</a>]

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01:25:51   like we have to give it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5151">TS</a>]

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01:25:56   of phones and making people happy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:57   them and this year they tried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   strategy which was this weird mix of low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   volume youtubers plus traditional media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05   with with lead time plus some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08   traditional media with less lead time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   and they'll see what the result is in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   but they'll change it next year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   people getting angry about it like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5175">TS</a>]

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01:26:22   know they moved my cheese like I want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:23   want to read the the Walt Mossberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   review but he retired and now I'm angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5185">TS</a>]

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01:26:46   that's actually the story other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   like chiding people for being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:51   for being to to sort of up their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   butts about it like once you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5213">TS</a>]

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01:26:57   person deserves to get the phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   have totally lost the plot about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5219">TS</a>]

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01:27:04   some of us are just disappointed that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   don't get to read the reviews from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:07   people that we wanted to read it from at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:08   the the you know the scale we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5228">TS</a>]

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01:27:22   because we won't know like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5242">TS</a>]

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01:27:29   observer because honestly um you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5249">TS</a>]

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01:27:55   excited by new people getting the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   and I'm trying to think with PR mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5277">TS</a>]

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01:28:16   be grateful Apple so the some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5296">TS</a>]

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01:28:26   they are compared to the YouTube world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5306">TS</a>]

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01:28:30   that they're all enthusiastic these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:32   people love the the iPhone they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5312">TS</a>]

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01:29:01   look like you're scared that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5341">TS</a>]

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01:29:08   person who gets to play with it for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5348">TS</a>]

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01:29:13   isn't going to find right that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5353">TS</a>]

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01:29:20   got access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5360">TS</a>]

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01:29:25   earlier what it seems like a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:26   are angry which I you know whatever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:28   it's your livelihood I kind of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   blame them but that's always the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   it's been with that but like to give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:34   example from my past for years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   and years our technical didn't get crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   from Apple that our second ago could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   get like there was nothing they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   return our calls but basically like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   would be nice and polite that we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   not get anything from Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   eventually that changed and it changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:53   because apples PR strategy changed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   not like we weren't worthy before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:57   were worthy after and it didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   good when we couldn't get anything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:02   and it felt good when we could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:03   something but the the connection between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:06   the quality of Ars Technica and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   or not Apple gave us review Hardware was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:11   not the connection people want to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:12   it is it is Apple decides what to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:15   you honestly really have notice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   important life lesson you can't control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   what other people do or think about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   the best you can do is just decide how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:24   you're going to act and do your best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:25   work and hope for the best so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   we continue to do this podcast patiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29   waiting Apple for Apple to send us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   preview Mac Pro hardware please call us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   I would be if I was the one that got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:36   Mac Pro not that funny not as funny as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   you think it is oh it's my we find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   very funny but it's who else are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43   going to sent I guess they could send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:44   preview Mac for a hardware to like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   actual professionals who are like doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:47   video and stuff but that's boring what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   other what other cultural institution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:52   cares more about the Mac Pro than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54   podcast two-thirds of this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5454">TS</a>]

01:31:00   recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:02   not yet released oh my word you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:05   should also note that a mamaan bag now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:09   didn't get a chance to look it up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   think one of you added it to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:12   notes but he had a relatively long kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:17   of rant although it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20   level-headed to be called a rant but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   discussion I guess about how one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:25   advantages of giving you know some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:26   these youtubers access is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   not all old white guys like we are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:31   there's a lot to be said for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   think John you touched on this a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   ago but that's an improvement no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:38   how you slice it that's an improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:39   to the PR strategy now it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:42   to be at the cost of old white dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:43   maybe maybe not I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45   certainly reaching more diverse voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47   is a good thing for Apple so you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:51   check that out if you have about I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:53   it was a little less than ten minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:54   spare and like so many things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57   the older like the farther you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00   in time the more likely it is that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   the people in positions of power or old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   white dudes right and so any PR strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:08   that focuses on all white dudes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:12   necessarily back in time like we hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   we're making progress in all fronts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:16   that there is a more a diverse set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   voices out there especially with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:19   dawning the internet and the bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   lowering the barriers to entry and if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   you if they were if Apple was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:25   pursuing the same strategy they did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:26   2007 with the iPhone and only giving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   to all the white dudes who work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:29   newspapers like we would all agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   that's that's an outdated strategy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:34   if they simply shift and say we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:37   give it to new media as they did as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39   started giving it to websites like ARS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40   technica stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:41   new media you would hope has better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:44   ratios of you know men and women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:49   different races like you would hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:51   purely by moving to new media you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:54   more diversity and that's before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:57   even consider should we actually target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00   diverse reviewers because we're leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02   money on the table if we don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04   right and so it's not even clear to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:09   that there was a specific effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   target more diverse reviewers in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   point I think it's a natural consequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   of targeting modern media like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:19   and again it's not the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20   they've done anything with YouTube we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21   were commenting about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   they're not giving you the most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24   YouTube channels or whatever but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   the the promise and the beauty of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   Internet and YouTube and blogs and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:31   other sort of form of media without as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:36   many people preventing you from doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:39   anyone can put up a blog anyone can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:42   up something on YouTube and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44   allowing us to hear from people we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   previously didn't hear where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   there we just didn't hear from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:49   because they weren't hired by the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:50   York Times right so that is all positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:53   and a conscious shift towards modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:56   media you know like podcasts which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58   super modern but also so dominated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:01   white dude sorry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:04   like I think that that is all positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   and if anything Apple should lean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:09   more heavily in that direction because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:10   all those voices are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:11   underrepresented in modern media as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:14   it's just that deal the older that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   people get and the farther you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:17   in time the worse it gets in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19   diversity even if you're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21   anything different than even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:22   not like consciously trying to just give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:23   it to white dudes if you want to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   to old people who work in newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:27   that's what you're gonna end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:28   much more so than if you want to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   to popular youtubers so now that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   discussed the you know they completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35   insular brouhaha what do we think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   these reviews it sounds like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39   pretty solid phone I don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   review so many of them yeah no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:44   like my one hesitation basically is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47   almost nobody has had a chance to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49   live with it for more than like a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:52   so the initial impressions are great so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:55   I think I'm confident enough with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   these reviews that my first day with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:59   phone is probably gonna be awesome I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:00   just don't know how it's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02   after that but it does seem pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04   positive you know you know if nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   else it was only it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:07   frustrating to see all that PR stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:09   because almost every one of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:12   YouTube quick takes and even many if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   press quick takes were like just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17   restating Apple's own PR points about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   like look an emoji exists and it's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:22   and shiny it's coming out soon and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25   wasn't much that we didn't already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   whatever we learn details of new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   that I didn't already know like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   that's one of the reasons why I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:32   Jason Snell's review so much and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:33   other and why I like the upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   podcast this week so much because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37   packed full of like actually new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:40   information that we didn't already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42   as enthusiasts to follow this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   who already saw the keynote you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   like if we like so many of the articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48   and reviews and YouTube things are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   like rehashes of the keynote event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52   basically and so to hear anything new is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:54   great and as we've heard new things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:57   the very few sources that have new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   things to report so far it just sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:03   really great it sounds awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:04   and I am very much looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07   I can't wait until Friday at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:10   9:00 p.m. when the overworked UPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:13   whoever finally gets here I cannot wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15   for that because I'm looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:18   it it sounds like what I have wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:21   ever since the iPhone plus came out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:25   three years ago when was that three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:27   years ago you know ever since then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:29   what it's what I've wanted which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:30   would like the benefits of that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:33   smaller body that I can actually hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:35   more easily than the big one and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:38   seems to offer basically that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   there's a few things that are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:42   like you know the screen is like taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44   and skinnier you know it's not it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   like the same aspect ratio and width as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48   the fluffs phone but it seems like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51   have the best of everything in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:52   phone finally and that's that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:55   really great I am a little concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   about reach ability of the vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:00   reach ability but I'm kind of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   forward to it as an app developer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   know I finally I shipped overcast for we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:08   should be at by the time this shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:09   edited if everything goes well now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:12   have a giant canvas to play with and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   I have a whole UI to rethink I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:17   really done much of that yet I basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19   just expanded the existing UI to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21   the screen properly because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   want to do any redesign work without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   actually having it in my hand physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:28   to test with and it's like how does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30   actually feel what can I actually reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:32   you know things like that but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34   looking forward to this new era of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:38   of having to rethink everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:39   it's a ton of work for developers as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   mentioned last week but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   going to be real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:44   nice when we when we get there and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   really looking forward to having all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:47   this real estate on the screen to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:50   with you know my now playing screen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51   can have so many more features but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   that I have like a tall skinny aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:55   ratio so like I'm looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:58   both his developer and as a user and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00   a fan of this stuff and I'm I'm happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:02   see so far that the reviews shallow as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:05   many of them are are seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:09   universally positive and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11   everyone loves face ID it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:13   it's really fast it seems like it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:15   it's not perfect but it's close enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16   and people don't seem to notice it much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:18   anymore which is awesome overall I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20   very excited I'm very happy and thankful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:23   I got a day one order in and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:26   can't wait to get it yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:27   yeah I'm mostly relieved that FaceTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:30   works as we always would like from sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:34   yes face ID because that was that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:37   big fear that that face ID would be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:40   but just barely under the threshold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:44   of annoyance and every review I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:47   so far has said it's fine like it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:50   it works like Apple says it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   to within the parameters that they set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54   out there are no surprises and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   good to use it's different but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:59   someone who spent a long time with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01   ID phones you know we all know and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:04   internalized the vagaries of touch ID no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:07   wet fingers sometimes doesn't get it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   the first try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:09   you got to pick up your finger and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   it down again every once in a while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12   get the code thrown in your face and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:16   just accept that as the price of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17   with with touch ID face ID has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:20   equivalents of that it's too far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21   from me there's bright Sun you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:25   identical twin can unlock my phone all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   sorts of things like yes every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29   these things has inherent problems but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31   the videos I've seen about how long it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   takes to unlock like people going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36   it's doing of timing and stop watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   everything that shows me so far not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40   having use one of these myself but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:43   seems like it's with it's under the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45   threshold like that it's acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:47   right and like touch ID was in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:51   iteration touch ID in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:52   iteration was also like you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:55   obviously a vast improvement over typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:56   in code but it got better in the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:58   so I'm already looking forward to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5998">TS</a>]

01:39:59   second one but the first one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:00   there's no catastrophic problem like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:02   my goodness this phone hinges on face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:05   and face ID is just too annoying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:08   that does not appear to be the case so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   I'm relieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:10   in that case and you know the their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:15   views I've read in full like Jason's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:17   I've read some of Hannah's Reno's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:20   their their take on the phone obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22   speaks to me the most because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:23   you know they have they come from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   same experiences that I do but getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   back to the PR thing briefly all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   reviews they're like oh this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:29   shallow review and doesn't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31   anything that I didn't already know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33   people who watch that video don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35   all the things that we already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:36   because they didn't pour over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:37   keynote and do a three-hour podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:38   about it that's all new information to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   the people who watch that channel people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:42   who watch that channel have seen like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:44   advertisement and some images and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:45   articles that didn't read and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   they're being told they were learning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   for the first time from a trusted face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:50   that they know right that's so again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   I had to put myself my PR hat on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55   think like if you you know how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:56   imagine PR might work reaching people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6056">TS</a>]

01:41:00   who aren't you know poring over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:03   everything that that comes from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:06   those reviews aren't shallow to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08   that is a giant info dump as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10   they're concerned yeah we're hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:11   things that were like yeah yeah I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:12   that knew that knew that I knew that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14   the people who are watching those videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:15   on those channels that are not tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17   related didn't know any of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19   and they're seeing the new iPhone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21   the very first time maybe I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:22   understand what a big deal it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   whatever the new iPhone is it out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:25   can you buy it do all my friends already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27   have it they don't know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:30   channels that were probably being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:31   underserved by just giving it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   tech columnist and The Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:34   Journal and a bunch of Apple bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:37   nerds so again I can imagine all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:40   of potential upsides to the strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   that Apple took even some of my mkbhd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:45   has a nerd audience like that's a nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48   channel right it's not the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:49   giving it to someone who works for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   fashion magazine it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:52   audience and Apple's reaching different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54   people with this strategy now what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:56   that I think it was uh was it Marco okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58   which one of you brought up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6118">TS</a>]

01:41:59   subtracting people me that's the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:03   part of the strategy of not giving it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05   the other institutions I have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:08   trouble thinking up a reason for that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:10   they were afraid that the cranky sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:17   you know the old guard would be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   likely to spend time focusing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:22   flaws and less time being excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24   the cool stuff but that's just that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26   just a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:27   like and again I think Apple PR tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:29   things and looks at the results and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:31   adjust their strategy and they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:32   it so many times that I give them leeway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34   to try this strategy and we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   they do with the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:37   all right thanks to our sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   week Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:40   and we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:44   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:55   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6175">TS</a>]

01:43:01   because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:05   accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:09   notes at ATP FM and if floor into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:14   Twitter you can follow them CAS II WA L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:20   is esta that's Casey less ma RC o AR m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:25   and T Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:28   SI r AC us a Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:39   I have some after-show things to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:48   Casey about so I am super behind on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:51   Twitter Casey have you already posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   your video review of the Alpha no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:58   god no yeah you eat we mark when I spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00   about this a little bit in the pre-show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:02   and and I have purchased Final Cut Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:05   Final Cut Pro X whatever it is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:09   this free car is already costing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:10   money oh is it ever I did post a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:13   literally eight second teaser to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:17   earlier today I stopped that teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:21   deliberately right before I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   Quadrifoglio because I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25   have the entire internet make fun of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:26   for pronouncing that incorrectly so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:30   pleased with the progress on making on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33   the video but I have made very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:36   progress and it is slow going but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   progress that has been made I'm pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:40   with so I am actually I did actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42   that clip so that's how far behind I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:43   Twitter I think I just read that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:45   we sat down podcasting and I have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:47   piece of advice I watched it with mute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49   on so I didn't hear any of the audio I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51   did see is one of the default fonts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54   titles so cranky about that do not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:59   that fund everyone got so cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:02   I don't I don't think it was the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:06   now I'm not arguing it was one of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:09   short list of options it's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11   correct but it was not the default I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:14   don't believe and I have since changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:15   it to Futura [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:16   because I haven't come up with a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:18   plan yet I was laying put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:23   that's the font i use on my destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:24   videos you should be aiming higher than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26   that fair enough okay see you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:29   you have a bunch of people complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:30   your font isn't good enough you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31   have two options comic sans and papyrus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:34   no avatar d so far so you don't have be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:37   confused with that it's hard yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:41   it's so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:42   I can certainly send two of you guys a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44   draft if you give a crap for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:47   two seconds I saw but also again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:49   meudon or whatever seven seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:50   whatever it was hmm don't take this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52   wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:53   but it's hard for me to tell whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   are doing an homage to the the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:59   review channels that you watch and love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:01   or a parody of them like you should feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:06   constrained by the formats that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:09   come before yes we've all seen these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:10   other car channels but I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:14   need to do a car view the way you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:17   them you can do them the KC way now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   maybe it starts by saying I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:20   imitate the channels that I know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   love or like maybe you are sending them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   up or maybe half of it is the joke that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26   you are exactly following the format of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:28   the channels that you like but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:29   funny because it's you doing it right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   don't know I have been sound was off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:34   I would encourage you to spread your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:36   wings and fly and do whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38   kind of car view you want to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:41   assessment is semi correct so I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6401">TS</a>]

01:46:45   pull from somewhere right like I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47   creative enough person that I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49   fart out like this brand new paradigm is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:52   you are your excellent farter KC I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:55   very good farter full of gas everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:57   loves it is that a marketable skill we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6417">TS</a>]

01:47:00   wish because if so yeah the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:02   we've got that unblocked no I I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:05   somewhere to start from and my starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:09   point and certainly the first seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:10   seconds completely bears this out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:12   you're right but my starting point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:14   kind of mostly Doug de Muro style review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:19   but the formula is not identical like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:22   it's not a bunch of quirks then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:26   in-car video then Doug score like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:29   not gonna be quite that formulaic but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:30   do start with some of me talking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:33   the outside of the car then we talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   about all I've got so far that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:37   intention is to about of me talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:40   about the inside of the car but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41   little in the in the realm of quirks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:44   more about just what does it feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45   to drive a Julia and then a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:49   of ride-along footage which I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:50   think will probably be pretty brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52   because all it's going to be is me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:53   giggling about how fast it is and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:56   good it sounds and then a little bit at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:59   the end which is again me standing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:01   front of the car outside so and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:05   couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:06   I feel like this is if it goes the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:10   intend it's going to be part Doug de [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:15   Muro part cgp grey in that I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:21   well not really awesome so that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:26   know if you saw it John this might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:27   been before you before he jumped on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:29   call but I'd put in the chat a link to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:33   still picture that I had taken which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:36   of the three key fobs and so yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:39   is when you were here because you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:40   talking about the Accord key fob and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:43   the the stick with that is that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:47   the final frame in me building up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6527">TS</a>]

01:48:51   what you see so the you know as as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:54   voice-over is going I have just a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:56   sheet of paper and then I then you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:57   the BMW e90 key appear and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6537">TS</a>]

01:49:01   the next quote-unquote frame which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03   probably you know thirty literal frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:05   later you see the e90 having been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:08   written and then you see the f30 key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:10   appear thirty frames later the f30 key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:13   that's that's been written you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:14   I'm saying so there's like a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:16   some gags not gags that's too strong a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:19   word but like some cutesy timing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:22   I'm trying to do for a couple of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:23   things is that on top of a toilet tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:25   no also screw you that's my trunk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:29   bastard that's a white car it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31   tell clean keeps his car anyway but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:48   reason I say it's vaguely CGP grey ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:51   is that I think one of the ten tenets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:54   isn't word I'm looking for one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:55   like sticks with a CGP grey video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:58   being cutesy with the timing and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:00   that in a complimentary way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02   like things are happening visually on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   beats verbal beats and and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:09   like a little bit of that going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11   there's a little an to do a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:13   of that with regard to the interior as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:15   well I hope I can trim it down like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:18   a couple of minutes long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   it's three minutes right now and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:23   probably a third of the footage I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:26   maybe even a little less than that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:27   I'm aiming for between five and ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:30   I think the 20 minute demure Doug Miro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:33   reviews that's way too much for me today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:35   if I get in the habit of doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:36   maybe I'll get in the habit of doing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:38   know 20 minute reviews one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6638">TS</a>]

01:50:40   eventually but for my first crack at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:43   I really hope to stay under 10 and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:46   prefer to be closer to five but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:48   think it'll be ten or it maybe even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:50   than that just don't spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:52   on the owners manual on the spare tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:53   and you'll be fine sorry okay noted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:58   deeply regret not having bought or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:01   rented or done something to get a laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03   Mike I think the audio quality is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:06   going to get dinged for pretty bad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:07   the point that I am debating actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:10   trying to dub yeah I feel like bad audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:15   on your first youtube video featuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:16   yourself as a rite of passage for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:18   everybody who's not mark oh yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6678">TS</a>]

01:51:20   probably true even I only had mediocre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   audio but you were way above the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25   bar which is like you sounds like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:27   talking to a laptop microphone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:28   across the room everybody's first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:29   YouTube video has to be like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31   it's the rule yeah I mean I was wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:32   a lot like just a crappy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:35   I had crappy lava yeah you still sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:39   way way better than what people's first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:40   youtube video supposed to sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:41   yeah no I mean I would say Casey like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43   it's better to like a and and I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:46   this to myself as much as you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:48   when I tried to do a like nice-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:51   YouTube video with my MacBook Pro review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:52   like I look back on it recently and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:55   like I can't I can't even watch it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:57   so bad like at the time I didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6717">TS</a>]

01:51:59   it was that bad now looking back on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:01   now I think it's really bad and I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:04   painful for me to even see it someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:07   that one of the lessons I learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:08   that that I wish I would have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:09   before I made it is it's better to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:14   better job at a format you can do better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:16   than to then to aim too high with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:20   the format or style that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22   create and do a bad job of it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:25   what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:25   I aim too high I tried to create a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:28   higher production value video than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:31   my skill and experience and to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33   degree equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34   was actually capable of but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:36   mostly not an equipment problem this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6756">TS</a>]

01:52:39   mostly a skill and experience problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41   yeah and the fact is like we've made so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:44   few videos I don't know if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:46   better knack at it than I do it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:48   to have a worse knockout than I do if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:50   make any more videos I'm going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:52   make them in a more casual way with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54   lower production value intentionally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56   prevent me from getting too much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:59   weeds here because like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:01   might be thinking about fixing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:02   audio that's cool you should have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:04   audio if you can but that's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6784">TS</a>]

01:53:06   gonna be your biggest challenge your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:08   biggest challenge is gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6788">TS</a>]

01:53:09   things that people who make video more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:12   and who are experienced and/or trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:15   with it are better so things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:17   composition timing cutting motion color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:21   Corrections like stuff stuff that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:23   that casual beginners just don't get or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:26   need experience to develop to get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6806">TS</a>]

01:53:30   because we've made so few videos we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:34   don't have that yet so it's better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:38   think to aim for something more casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:40   less produced less fancy and just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:45   that out there then to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6825">TS</a>]

01:53:47   something super professional when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:50   don't have the tool set or the skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:52   that are the experience to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:54   achieve the look you're going for yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:56   yeah I think that makes sense and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58   think I feel like my aspiration is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:04   have something that feels like it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:07   feels vaguely like a cross of dim euro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:10   and gray not to say that that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6850">TS</a>]

01:54:11   marching orders but but just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:13   somebody could watch this film or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:16   whatever you want to call it this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:17   video and say yeah I see what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6857">TS</a>]

01:54:20   going for there and I can see a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:21   sprinkle of demure and a little sprinkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:22   of gray there and okay he didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:26   there but I see where this line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6866">TS</a>]

01:54:28   heading well you can't really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:29   line if it's only one data point but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:31   know what I'm saying like I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:32   where he's going with this and yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:34   was a bit ham-fisted here the audio is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:36   crappy there but there's promise here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:39   does that make sense like I wanna I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:43   like it is within my skill set to to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:46   in the vicinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:48   of this perfect video that I have in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:50   brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:51   and I don't think I'm gonna deliver the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53   perfect video that's in my brain but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55   do feel like the the things I'm asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:58   of myself I'm reaching to get to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6898">TS</a>]

01:55:01   but I think they're by and large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:05   attainable which is kind of it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:07   the best place to be right where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6907">TS</a>]

01:55:09   uncomfortable but not and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:12   that's where I think I am remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14   this when the video is released insider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:15   garbage well and the thing is to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:17   you know you're comparing yourself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:20   people who are such pros yeah I'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:26   you a quick story here it's like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:28   so gray is gonna be so embarrassed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6928">TS</a>]

01:55:31   I'm that I'm saying this but oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6931">TS</a>]

01:55:32   sorry great I don't want to give any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:35   details really in case I didn't bears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37   anybody but at some point I witnessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:39   somebody asking gray for a critique on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6939">TS</a>]

01:55:44   video he like kind of you know went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:47   his phone for a few minutes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:48   conversation went elsewhere and about 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:50   minutes later he showed on his phone he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:54   had real just on his phone he had recut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:56   the entire video and was showing frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6956">TS</a>]

01:56:00   by fan I saw before and after and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:02   was way better just by recutting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:05   footage that he was given in this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:07   and he was able to explain why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10   rearranged things he trimmed things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:12   differently why he liked certain scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:14   float into the other ones better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:16   the other ones and how this reordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:17   and recutting of this completely changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6977">TS</a>]

01:56:21   the feel and pace and and overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:24   quality of this video and to see him do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26   that it's like it's I imagine like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:30   when non-tech people see tech people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:32   like whiz through a problem on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:34   computer superfast and it blows their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:36   mind that's how I felt watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38   like I'm like oh my god like that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:40   is a skill set that people like gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:43   have because they're very experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:44   with this and and they're very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:46   it yeah yeah when I compare how the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:49   I approach making a video to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:52   that I saw a pro do it my god it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:56   worlds apart it like so like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7016">TS</a>]

01:57:00   even have the vocab you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:02   Lari to describe you know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:05   that he was doing and why it was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:08   but it was way better and the way he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7028">TS</a>]

01:57:11   explaining it it like it made total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7031">TS</a>]

01:57:14   sense but I could never to come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:16   that and so like you're getting started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:18   in this you know you don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:20   video experience right like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7040">TS</a>]

01:57:22   have like a secret YouTube career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:23   because that we didn't know about no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7043">TS</a>]

01:57:25   in and for those who listen to this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:27   this makes the released version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:29   show like I have never ever edited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7049">TS</a>]

01:57:31   podcast truly I never have not once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7051">TS</a>]

01:57:33   because it's always been either you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7053">TS</a>]

01:57:35   Mike or you know one of your minions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:39   organization full of minions here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:41   exactly the two of you have just minions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7061">TS</a>]

01:57:43   all the way down but but you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:45   mean like I've never even edited a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:46   podcast so I've dabbled in iMovie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:49   couple times and I think I've dabbled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7069">TS</a>]

01:57:51   GarageBand maybe once but these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:54   these are tools that I am not familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:56   with so I'm just kind of hacking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58   you know I feel like I'm going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7078">TS</a>]

01:57:59   the jungle not with a machete but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:02   like a pocketknife and I do feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:05   I'm making forward progress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:08   unequivocally what I release is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:10   look ham-fisted what I hope though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7090">TS</a>]

01:58:13   that once you get past the crap audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:15   and once you get past the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17   timing is wrong once you get past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:19   fact that inevitably this video will run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7099">TS</a>]

01:58:21   longer than it should and I'm gonna try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7101">TS</a>]

01:58:22   my damnedest to cut it down but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7102">TS</a>]

01:58:24   it'll end up running too long I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7104">TS</a>]

01:58:26   that you the collective you can see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:31   and say I see the start of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:34   here it's probably not the end hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:38   not the end and this I can see how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:41   is going to get better with time and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:43   part of the way I've tried to do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:46   I do feel like my review my video review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:48   is going to have a bit of a narrative I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:51   feel like I can't I have created an arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:53   and I even took some engineering paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7133">TS</a>]

01:58:54   from college and like drew out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:56   really crudely drawn storyboards which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7136">TS</a>]

01:58:58   think I put on like - the stories well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7138">TS</a>]

01:59:03   but it's I mean that's how I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7143">TS</a>]

01:59:05   like frame it in my head because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:07   were doing an unreal pencil and paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7147">TS</a>]

01:59:08   like your Mike earlier or something yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7148">TS</a>]

01:59:10   which is which is barbaric but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7150">TS</a>]

01:59:12   best way I could come up with to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:13   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7153">TS</a>]

01:59:15   through the story I want to tell and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:18   think if I didn't at least have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:20   beginnings in that regard I I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:24   totally lost in this video would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:25   come out but since I had an Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:27   storyboards finally finally used for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:30   that's true but I I guess what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7170">TS</a>]

01:59:35   saying roundabout way is this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:37   to be embarrassing when I release it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7177">TS</a>]

01:59:39   I do it all it may be so embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7179">TS</a>]

01:59:41   that I don't release there are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7181">TS</a>]

01:59:42   seven to send it to my friends I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:43   know that you should after you release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:45   this video you should by all rights have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47   the most popular YouTube channel on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:49   podcast I think Marco had does have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7189">TS</a>]

01:59:54   have a lot of views on your on your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7194">TS</a>]

01:59:56   MacBook thing but in theory a review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7196">TS</a>]

01:59:59   any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7199">TS</a>]

01:59:59   any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7199">TS</a>]

02:00:00   a thousand dollar sports sedan has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:02   like general interest than I'd yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:04   another review of like a laptop so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:06   feel like you should come out as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:08   undisputed views champion of ATP I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7208">TS</a>]

02:00:11   I hope so and well I think my plan is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7211">TS</a>]

02:00:15   release it I really do feel like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:17   get it to a point that I'm only lightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:20   embarrassed by it rather than deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7220">TS</a>]

02:00:22   embarrassed by it but we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24   happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:25   and part of the reason I really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7225">TS</a>]

02:00:27   release it is because I feel like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7227">TS</a>]

02:00:29   a story here and that story may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31   interesting to anyone else it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:33   know when you when you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7233">TS</a>]

02:00:34   really good slideshow of your vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:36   right to some degree what we made you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7236">TS</a>]

02:00:38   sit through John when when Mark when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7238">TS</a>]

02:00:40   went to Germany and then again when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7240">TS</a>]

02:00:42   went like to us we had this like story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7242">TS</a>]

02:00:46   arc and it was fascinating and exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7246">TS</a>]

02:00:47   but to you it might have been a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:48   freaking snooze it may be the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7248">TS</a>]

02:00:51   here but I feel like I have a story arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7251">TS</a>]

02:00:53   I feel like I have something to say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7253">TS</a>]

02:00:56   maybe it's completely selfish but I've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7256">TS</a>]

02:00:59   have already filmed my conclusion and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:02   add I knew what I wanted to say but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7262">TS</a>]

02:01:04   ad-lib did and I'm really really happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7264">TS</a>]

02:01:06   with how it came out and so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7266">TS</a>]

02:01:10   if I've got a decent start and I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:13   a good but pretty pretty good end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7273">TS</a>]

02:01:15   I'm pretty happy with so if I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:16   get the middle okay then it'll be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7276">TS</a>]

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02:01:23   having fun and that's the other thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7283">TS</a>]

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02:09:04   my life but I'm gonna say it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7744">TS</a>]

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02:09:09   this becomes another like livelihood for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7749">TS</a>]

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02:09:17   the podcast in doing these videos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7757">TS</a>]

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02:09:25   every day and what if I could then spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7765">TS</a>]

02:09:29   more time with my family you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7769">TS</a>]

02:09:30   that's it's a moonshot I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7770">TS</a>]

02:09:32   that'll ever ever ever ever happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7772">TS</a>]

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02:09:36   see see what happens you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7776">TS</a>]

02:09:39   and I'm basically repeating imperative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7779">TS</a>]

02:09:41   what you said Marco back to you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7781">TS</a>]

02:09:43   that's kind of the way I'm looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7783">TS</a>]

02:09:45   right now is who knows what if I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7785">TS</a>]

02:09:47   bit of a knack for this like I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7787">TS</a>]

02:09:49   like there's something here and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:52   gonna be mature and it's gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7792">TS</a>]

02:09:53   problems but why not to use a underscore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7793">TS</a>]

02:09:57   ISM why not unpack this a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7797">TS</a>]

02:09:59   see what I come up with cuz maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7799">TS</a>]

02:10:02   maybe I've got this I mean if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7802">TS</a>]

02:10:05   want to go for the moon shot of the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7805">TS</a>]

02:10:06   shot what if I end up on Top Gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7806">TS</a>]

02:10:08   America in ten years like again that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7808">TS</a>]

02:10:10   understand how preposterous and comical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7810">TS</a>]

02:10:12   that is but who knows like why should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:15   say I can't do that you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7815">TS</a>]

02:10:17   weirder things have happened yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7817">TS</a>]

02:10:20   look you man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7820">TS</a>]

02:10:22   worst-case scenario you have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7822">TS</a>]

02:10:25   cool fulfilling hobby that you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:26   enjoy yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7826">TS</a>]

02:10:27   that's the worst worst case scenario you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:30   get to film cars and talk about them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7830">TS</a>]

02:10:31   do that anyway like if you happen to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7831">TS</a>]

02:10:37   able to turn this hobby into a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7837">TS</a>]

02:10:38   cool that's bonus but either way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7838">TS</a>]

02:10:41   good like either way it's gonna make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7841">TS</a>]

02:10:44   happy to do it and look everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:45   hobbies John plays destiny you can shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7845">TS</a>]

02:10:47   car videos right John take me back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:51   earth am I am I crazy I was just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7851">TS</a>]

02:10:54   say it's making me feel old to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7854">TS</a>]

02:10:57   people whose spirits haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7857">TS</a>]

02:10:58   crushed by life yeah John answer ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:03   optimism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7863">TS</a>]

02:11:05   do play destiny and I make videos of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:07   playing destiny and it's a fulfilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:09   hobby wait do you have like a channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7869">TS</a>]

02:11:11   where you put those yeah rip we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7871">TS</a>]

02:11:14   the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:15   ii-i'll have you know I have dozens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7875">TS</a>]

02:11:18   using Sufis do you really like put these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7878">TS</a>]

02:11:22   online somewhere I have a youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7882">TS</a>]

02:11:24   channel it's been mentioned on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7884">TS</a>]

02:11:26   we did you were here yes yes even I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7886">TS</a>]

02:11:28   that and I have no memory there is user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7888">TS</a>]

02:11:30   siracusa there we go yeah that's you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7890">TS</a>]

02:11:33   somebody who's posing as you and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7893">TS</a>]

02:11:35   plays destiny mm-hmm well plays doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7895">TS</a>]

02:11:38   mean just the way I play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7898">TS</a>]

02:11:40   let me tell you the videos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7900">TS</a>]

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02:11:45   Wow oh you have a lot here I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7905">TS</a>]

02:11:48   doing it for a while since that's anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:49   you know you're gonna have to edit out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7909">TS</a>]

02:11:51   all the times I mentioned gray because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7911">TS</a>]

02:11:53   think there are times that he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:55   does listen to this show and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7915">TS</a>]

02:11:56   know what I said about him it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7916">TS</a>]

02:11:58   intended to be intended to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7918">TS</a>]

02:12:02   complimentary but if he's if he's smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7922">TS</a>]

02:12:04   he'll he'll pounce on me for using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7924">TS</a>]

02:12:07   phrase lose the plot and say haha now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7927">TS</a>]

02:12:09   you're using British isms actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7929">TS</a>]

02:12:10   that's true he'll jump on it straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7930">TS</a>]

02:12:11   away his first videos were crap - he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:15   just he just didn't publish them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7935">TS</a>]

02:12:17   maybe he did I think it was mentioned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7937">TS</a>]

02:12:19   an old hif aside like that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7939">TS</a>]

02:12:21   keep your first really crappy video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7941">TS</a>]

02:12:22   your channel you can't delete it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7942">TS</a>]

02:12:23   like you know like you you're comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7943">TS</a>]

02:12:26   yourself somebody who's been doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7946">TS</a>]

02:12:27   for years alright so like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:29   starts out crappy and if you only make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7949">TS</a>]

02:12:31   one video a year you're gonna be crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7951">TS</a>]

02:12:33   for a long time if you do it if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7953">TS</a>]

02:12:36   this a new thing that you do on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7956">TS</a>]

02:12:37   regular basis you have a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7957">TS</a>]

02:12:39   chance of getting better over time yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:41   yeah and and and I would say and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:43   like this is me telling myself this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:45   much anything else don't focus on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7965">TS</a>]

02:12:47   gear the gear is not your problem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:50   can do everything you need with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7970">TS</a>]

02:12:51   iPhone that's it that's all you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:54   everything else is bonus like it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7974">TS</a>]

02:12:56   nice to have a little bit better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7976">TS</a>]

02:12:59   know audio input it's a little closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:00   your mouth if you're gonna be on camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7980">TS</a>]

02:13:02   otherwise like that's you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7982">TS</a>]

02:13:04   need that much you don't think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7984">TS</a>]

02:13:06   hundreds of dollars on audio interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7986">TS</a>]

02:13:09   and stuff you don't need it also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7989">TS</a>]

02:13:10   already own one but you don't need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7990">TS</a>]

02:13:14   like you only got the the content of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7994">TS</a>]

02:13:18   video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7998">TS</a>]

02:13:18   the video footage itself the writing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/7998">TS</a>]

02:13:23   the video the the timing and the editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:25   and the cutting and what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:27   is way more important than the equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8007">TS</a>]

02:13:29   you have and the fact is the iPhone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8009">TS</a>]

02:13:33   you already will have anyway is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8013">TS</a>]

02:13:36   video camera in the world for this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8016">TS</a>]

02:13:38   of thing most of the time like not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8018">TS</a>]

02:13:40   all the time like there's you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8020">TS</a>]

02:13:42   specialized things and pros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8022">TS</a>]

02:13:43   everything but like if you want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8023">TS</a>]

02:13:45   make a video as a newcomer to the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:47   just use your iPhone it has everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8027">TS</a>]

02:13:49   you need built-in you already own it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8029">TS</a>]

02:13:50   spend $0 just use the iPhone yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8030">TS</a>]

02:13:53   the stuff I did I did with a GoPro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8033">TS</a>]

02:13:56   old GoPro that I borrowed from work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8036">TS</a>]

02:13:58   my iPhone and and there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8038">TS</a>]

02:14:01   things like I'll do voiceovers with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8041">TS</a>]

02:14:02   good mic which is going to be jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8042">TS</a>]

02:14:04   because it's gonna be so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8044">TS</a>]

02:14:05   than the stuff I filmed live but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8045">TS</a>]

02:14:08   whatever but I and I recorded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8048">TS</a>]

02:14:11   exhaust note a couple of times with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8051">TS</a>]

02:14:12   good mic just to get a really good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8052">TS</a>]

02:14:15   know like the the beginning of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8055">TS</a>]

02:14:16   preview is actually the exhaust as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8056">TS</a>]

02:14:19   recorded with the mic I'm speaking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8059">TS</a>]

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02:14:22   in some way or another because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8062">TS</a>]

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02:14:25   whatever it was just your mic is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8065">TS</a>]

02:14:27   filled with exhaust yeah I mean whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8067">TS</a>]

02:14:30   right but you see it was like a GoPro in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8070">TS</a>]

02:14:34   an iPhone and my podcasting mic to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8074">TS</a>]

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02:14:42   when the iPhone is several feet away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8082">TS</a>]

02:14:45   from my body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8085">TS</a>]

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02:14:52   video and audio and I'm going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8092">TS</a>]

02:14:54   both the video in the audio that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8094">TS</a>]

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02:14:57   what's gonna sound like garbage in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8097">TS</a>]

02:14:59   video unless I like overdub or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8099">TS</a>]

02:15:01   the term is that actors do if I dub over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8101">TS</a>]

02:15:03   myself and try to review or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8103">TS</a>]

02:15:07   is yeah so I try to like match my exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8107">TS</a>]

02:15:09   don't do that delivery that I did at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8109">TS</a>]

02:15:12   time but I do it with my podcast mic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8112">TS</a>]

02:15:15   I don't think I'm capable of it I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8115">TS</a>]

02:15:16   probably give it a shot just to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8116">TS</a>]

02:15:17   it gets even close but I don't think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8117">TS</a>]

02:15:19   wanted like that's incredibly hard like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8119">TS</a>]

02:15:22   it and I think like you have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8122">TS</a>]

02:15:24   very experienced actor probably to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8124">TS</a>]

02:15:25   able to have any chance of doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8125">TS</a>]

02:15:26   well I'm sure you're right yeah but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8126">TS</a>]

02:15:28   should get Declan to dub over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8128">TS</a>]

02:15:30   because that would make a good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8130">TS</a>]

02:15:33   maybe I'm assuming I'm assuming your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8133">TS</a>]

02:15:35   that your overdubbing Quadrifoglio with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8135">TS</a>]

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02:15:44   slightly like match it up so you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8144">TS</a>]

02:15:46   all weird the secret to a good audio for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8146">TS</a>]

02:15:50   this purpose like you can get integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8150">TS</a>]

02:15:53   details but basically none of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8153">TS</a>]

02:15:55   matter as much as get a mic close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8155">TS</a>]

02:15:58   your mouth and it matters way less what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8158">TS</a>]

02:16:01   that mic is how good it is like just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8161">TS</a>]

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02:16:05   mouth because even a really good mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8165">TS</a>]

02:16:07   even if you get like a really nice fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8167">TS</a>]

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02:16:12   as a cheap lavalier next to your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8172">TS</a>]

02:16:15   well in the stopgap that I used which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8175">TS</a>]

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02:16:19   you're right is I used actually one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8179">TS</a>]

02:16:22   my ear pods so I have one air pot in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8182">TS</a>]

02:16:24   ear and that was what the audio is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8184">TS</a>]

02:16:25   and it sounds like a telephone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8185">TS</a>]

02:16:27   which is okay but it's a lot better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8187">TS</a>]

02:16:31   me because the the phone was the fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8191">TS</a>]

02:16:33   probably 10 feet away for a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8193">TS</a>]

02:16:35   stuff that I filmed and so left with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8195">TS</a>]

02:16:37   just the phone mic it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8197">TS</a>]

02:16:39   nothing but like wind and a dim faint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8199">TS</a>]

02:16:41   version of me and so it was the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8201">TS</a>]

02:16:44   could do without spending any money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8204">TS</a>]

02:16:46   I can tell you right now that if if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8206">TS</a>]

02:16:49   gets posted which it did I intend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8209">TS</a>]

02:16:51   post it I guarantee that I'm gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8211">TS</a>]

02:16:53   bunch of complaints about the audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8213">TS</a>]

02:16:54   they're gonna be there because the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8214">TS</a>]

02:16:56   is gonna sound like garbage for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8216">TS</a>]

02:16:57   stuff that I filmed quote-unquote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8217">TS</a>]

02:16:58   person but it doesn't matter like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8218">TS</a>]

02:17:01   know and that's why I'm just rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8221">TS</a>]

02:17:02   just time and what you can do that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8222">TS</a>]

02:17:05   probably your cheapest option really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8225">TS</a>]

02:17:06   without having to buy much of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8226">TS</a>]

02:17:08   you're gonna have to buy a probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8228">TS</a>]

02:17:10   wire live probably a wired lavalier mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8230">TS</a>]

02:17:12   that's fine they're really cheap they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8232">TS</a>]

02:17:14   like you know under 50 bucks for a even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8234">TS</a>]

02:17:17   halfway decent wire wired lavalier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8237">TS</a>]

02:17:20   what I suggest you do is plug it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8240">TS</a>]

02:17:22   something that can record the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8242">TS</a>]

02:17:23   separately from the video that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8243">TS</a>]

02:17:24   to worry about that and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8244">TS</a>]

02:17:26   sync it up in Final Cut you can sync up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8246">TS</a>]

02:17:28   the audio I think automatically with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8248">TS</a>]

02:17:30   with the video somehow it's it syncs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8250">TS</a>]

02:17:32   there's a way to do that and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8252">TS</a>]

02:17:35   and you know you're doing such short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8255">TS</a>]

02:17:36   clips that like drift is not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8256">TS</a>]

02:17:38   a noticeable problem in this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8258">TS</a>]

02:17:39   duration that you're doing yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8259">TS</a>]

02:17:41   other thing I would say is one thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8261">TS</a>]

02:17:43   consider for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8263">TS</a>]

02:17:44   what is recording that thing you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8264">TS</a>]

02:17:46   can be an old iPhone a second one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8266">TS</a>]

02:17:49   don't if you can't if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8269">TS</a>]

02:17:50   like a long enough oh oh oh interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8270">TS</a>]

02:17:52   point yeah if you don't have a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8272">TS</a>]

02:17:53   enough eight inch cable to lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8273">TS</a>]

02:17:55   adapter to nominal to fit into the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8275">TS</a>]

02:17:57   iPhone yeah I'm with it just use it use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8277">TS</a>]

02:17:59   like an iPhone five that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8279">TS</a>]

02:18:01   run voice memos as you plug in a wire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8281">TS</a>]

02:18:04   lavaliere to its headphone jack that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:05   compatible with it like that's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8285">TS</a>]

02:18:07   you can do too because all iPhones can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8287">TS</a>]

02:18:09   be audio recorders like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8289">TS</a>]

02:18:13   gonna be better than what you have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8293">TS</a>]

02:18:14   like it's gonna be easier the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8294">TS</a>]

02:18:16   thing or you know you can get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8296">TS</a>]

02:18:17   like a zoom h1 which is like this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8297">TS</a>]

02:18:20   tiny thing you could like either I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8300">TS</a>]

02:18:22   it's it's not invisible like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8302">TS</a>]

02:18:24   you but you could like put it in a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8304">TS</a>]

02:18:25   pocket at least or somewhere near your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8305">TS</a>]

02:18:28   mouth that is nearer than an iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8308">TS</a>]

02:18:30   it's like it's you know it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8310">TS</a>]

02:18:31   like a standalone recorder you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8311">TS</a>]

02:18:33   run a wired lavalier into an H ones line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8313">TS</a>]

02:18:36   in Jack that's that's a thing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8316">TS</a>]

02:18:38   people do it's like there's there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8318">TS</a>]

02:18:40   of options here that rant that range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8320">TS</a>]

02:18:42   from free because you already have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8322">TS</a>]

02:18:44   stuff to like under a hundred bucks yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8324">TS</a>]

02:18:47   and you can go crazy you can go to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8327">TS</a>]

02:18:49   can go way higher than that but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8329">TS</a>]

02:18:50   don't need to like they don't even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8330">TS</a>]

02:18:52   I would even say just don't like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8332">TS</a>]

02:18:54   mess with that because it's so like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8334">TS</a>]

02:18:56   so much more important now to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8336">TS</a>]

02:18:58   other basics right this is where I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8338">TS</a>]

02:19:00   totally wrong with mine like I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8340">TS</a>]

02:19:02   fancy camera and the fancy tripod and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8342">TS</a>]

02:19:05   even bought like an iPad teleprompting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8345">TS</a>]

02:19:07   mount I thought about doing that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8347">TS</a>]

02:19:09   could use a cheap one skis teleprompt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8349">TS</a>]

02:19:12   plus like I I got all this crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8352">TS</a>]

02:19:16   so I could like have teleprompter so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8356">TS</a>]

02:19:18   could be looking at the camera while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8358">TS</a>]

02:19:20   reading my text editing at my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8360">TS</a>]

02:19:21   with the notes on it and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8361">TS</a>]

02:19:22   I got this crazy setup I and I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8362">TS</a>]

02:19:25   using most of it 0 times or one time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8365">TS</a>]

02:19:28   make a mediocre video and I didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8368">TS</a>]

02:19:30   a video after that it's like if I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8370">TS</a>]

02:19:31   videos again I'm going to instead just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8371">TS</a>]

02:19:35   use my iPhone in the gimbal that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8375">TS</a>]

02:19:37   bought for some reason like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8377">TS</a>]

02:19:39   gonna use it in that and should shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8379">TS</a>]

02:19:42   myself and maybe I'll have a lavalier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8382">TS</a>]

02:19:44   mic to give myself better audio but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8384">TS</a>]

02:19:46   that's as far as I would go probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8386">TS</a>]

02:19:48   that department just because like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8388">TS</a>]

02:19:50   if I'm going to make videos again what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8390">TS</a>]

02:19:53   need is to make the process lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8393">TS</a>]

02:19:55   friction so I'd do it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8395">TS</a>]

02:19:57   and the only way I'm gonna do that is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8397">TS</a>]

02:19:59   making it basically all iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8399">TS</a>]

02:20:01   making it informal you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8401">TS</a>]

02:20:03   like making it like periscope you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8403">TS</a>]

02:20:05   or Instagram lie like that's because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8405">TS</a>]

02:20:08   have no problem doing those because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8408">TS</a>]

02:20:09   were informal and all iPhone based so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8409">TS</a>]

02:20:12   guess my use need to do that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8412">TS</a>]

02:20:13   so you need to find out what that is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8413">TS</a>]

02:20:15   you like find out how to make yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8415">TS</a>]

02:20:17   do more videos so that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8417">TS</a>]

02:20:19   better at making videos so that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8419">TS</a>]

02:20:21   get an opportunity like this you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8421">TS</a>]

02:20:22   you can do the kind that you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8422">TS</a>]

02:20:23   want to do yeah the only equipment I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8423">TS</a>]

02:20:25   currently planning to buy if any is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8425">TS</a>]

02:20:28   lavalier mic of some sort and maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8428">TS</a>]

02:20:31   gimbal and that's it like that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8431">TS</a>]

02:20:32   feel like I really need at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8432">TS</a>]

02:20:34   because I can borrow a GoPro from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8434">TS</a>]

02:20:36   or there's a possibility that a listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8436">TS</a>]

02:20:38   might have a actually a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8438">TS</a>]

02:20:41   generation one that that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8441">TS</a>]

02:20:43   using anymore so he had offered to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8443">TS</a>]

02:20:45   it to me so I have a GoPro I'll have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8445">TS</a>]

02:20:50   I'll have my phone maybe like some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8450">TS</a>]

02:20:53   of mount that I can mount between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8453">TS</a>]

02:20:55   headrests like if I get really serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8455">TS</a>]

02:20:57   something that I can mount the GoPro to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8457">TS</a>]

02:21:00   between the headrest because basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8460">TS</a>]

02:21:01   the only mount I have right now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8461">TS</a>]

02:21:02   suction cup mount which is great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8462">TS</a>]

02:21:05   taking video of me but less great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8465">TS</a>]

02:21:07   taking video of what's going out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8467">TS</a>]

02:21:09   front of the car but anyway the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8469">TS</a>]

02:21:12   I I agree with you that I there's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8472">TS</a>]

02:21:15   little I intend to spend money on unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8475">TS</a>]

02:21:18   I have a compelling reason to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8478">TS</a>]

02:21:20   to say things are going well and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8480">TS</a>]

02:21:22   things are going well then great why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8482">TS</a>]

02:21:24   throw money at throw money at it but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8484">TS</a>]

02:21:26   things aren't things are as I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8486">TS</a>]

02:21:28   which is to say it was a fun blip on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8488">TS</a>]

02:21:30   radar for me and the people that care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8490">TS</a>]

02:21:31   about me then whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT3cmms/8491">TS</a>]