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00:00:00   fun fact listeners Syracuse is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   funnier person than you would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2">TS</a>]

00:00:03   expect like you hear bits of that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3">TS</a>]

00:00:06   show but born to laughing at me way than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   a laughing no that's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   that's not try really like but no really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/10">TS</a>]

00:00:17   it he is way funnier in person when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/17">TS</a>]

00:00:21   not performing as you have as we are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   doing that you trying to say I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   funny on the podcast he's way funnier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   than he is in his podcast it's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   I was going for but if you wanna I'm too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   tired to argue with you so yes let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36   start as we have to do with follow up TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   OS 11.2 beta is out tell me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/38">TS</a>]

00:00:42   output format switching mr. siracusa if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   you please not only is it out but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   actually got the the update I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   what caused me to get it but I check for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   updates in there it was and I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   excited so I immediately went into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/53">TS</a>]

00:00:54   settings screen that lets you say match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   source format framerate or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   then the HDR one does not apply to me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   I couldn't just try that one and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06   played a movie and my television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   switched to what it displays as 24 Hertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/69">TS</a>]

00:01:13   but isn't really true because I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   sure it's in some multiple that refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   rate but anyway it works it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   really works ray of course with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   movie I tried it with was a movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   purchased on iTunes so I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   Apple's built-in movie app which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   assumed would have been updated to news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   the new api's and I guess it has been I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   haven't had time to try it with Plex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35   infused and all the other things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   I just assumed they would not have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   time to update but I'm just gonna wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   until 11.2 is out and try them as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   so I'm happy about this and I'm one step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   closer to the probably terrible mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   of losslessly ripping all of my blu-rays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   so that I can watch them on demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   without touching a blu-ray disc at full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   quality but we'll see how that goes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   one additional note from this Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   rosensteil has confirmed confirmed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   while ago and now is in the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   complaining and finally radars with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   Apple about the fact that the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   generation Apple TV then not 4k Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10   doesn't get these features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   whomp-whomp for me and also it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   apparently get a manual 24 frames per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   second option and like I said a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   shows ago I don't get a manual 24 frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   per second naturally either in earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   versions of TV os even though my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   television supports it but anyway all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   these features are just for the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   new Apple TV 4k I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   unreasonable well it's the Apple way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   do things like why I keep supporting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   old thing right although as Todd busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   RIA unfortunately found out they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   sell the old one because he went to he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   was trying to order an Apple TV 4k and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   they didn't have any in stock so he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45   to the store and bought one he got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   different size he would want to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/167">TS</a>]

00:02:48   big one I think what he got the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   one and brought it home only to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   that he just purchased the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   generation Apple TV which looks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   much the same if you're not very careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   to look at the box and make sure it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00   Apple TV 4k on it so that's a shame and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/180">TS</a>]

00:03:04   they course they continue to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   other one because it hits a price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   but they're not gonna support it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   the latest version they've CEOs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   same way like maybe the technical reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   I can't really think of one but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   conceivable there's some unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   technical reason why they can't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   switching but that's that's crappy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   also in the most Tim Cook move ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   didn't even lower the price of the now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   two year old one when they brought out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25   the new you know the currency they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   it to hit a price point but it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   not competitive price point great new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/210">TS</a>]

00:03:35   minds what plus you've got inflation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   right so it was a long time ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/217">TS</a>]

00:03:40   money's worth less now all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/220">TS</a>]

00:03:45   then tell me about AP FS snapshots as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   used by Time Machine and software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   if you please there were a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   articles about this but eventually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   could all be traced back to a handy tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   note thing on Apple's own site to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   explain how cool a PFS snapshots are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/238">TS</a>]

00:04:02   being used by Apple's software at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   very least so Time Machine is using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/244">TS</a>]

00:04:08   I'm assuming I don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   article says it but I'm assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   obvious thing to do is take a snapshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   and then do a Time Machine backup from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   that snapshot so you don't get the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   thing they used to get where a Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   Machine backups takes a half an hour to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   run and files that are copied to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   beginning of the backup are 30 min [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   newer than files that are copied at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   end and you sort of get this weird image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   of the disc that is like it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   rolling shutter on a phone right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   like a rolling back up like I'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   backing up and while I'm backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   you're continuing to use your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   but if I already backed up the file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   modify it I'll get it in the next backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   it's weird snapshots you'd have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   that you can say shrink point-in-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   snapshot that's what I'm gonna back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   from that's exactly what this disk looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   like at a particular point in time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48   it will back up from that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   additionally time machine takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   snapshots every 24 hours while your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   computer is turned on and it takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   snapshot every week as well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   remember of snapshots are just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   point in time on your disk it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   not a backup to your time machine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   volume it's just snapshots of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   regular disk as it was and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/307">TS</a>]

00:05:11   convenient for like let me reach you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   you know run time machine even if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   never had your time machine disk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   your external time machine disk attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   to your computer for a long time you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   still use time machine to recover things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   from the local disk that were part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24   those snapshots and I heard some report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   someone saying I deleted a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   stuff on my free disk space didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   down it really depends on how they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   checking their free disk space because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   if you were checking it at the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   level that would be true because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   make a snapshot and that snapshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   includes like a 4 gig file then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   delete that 4 gig file you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   that space back because that snapshot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   still holding on to those 4 gigs so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   you could if you wanted to recover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   file from the snapshot or whatever with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   time machine so that's a case where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   you were getting your disc free disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   space the lowest level you would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   that I deleted this file why don't I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/356">TS</a>]

00:05:57   the free space back but this tech note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   has a thing at the end it says basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   you know are you worried about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   snapshots eating a disc case don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   because if we the operating system need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   you know storage space gets low which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   what the tech note says snapshots are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   automatically deleted starting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   oldest and I'm quoting right girthy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   the document now that's why I find her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   and get info windows don't include local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   snapshots in their calculations of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   storage space available on disk so yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   another complication as foretold in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   past episodes of how a BFS was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   make it much more complicated to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   display things like free space having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   do a bunch of math and subtract out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   space taken by snapshots and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   other stuff so they just lie to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   say oh yeah no we freed up at search but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   they didn't they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   hurry it up unless you need more disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   space unless you really really need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   it won't delete the snapshots until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   eating shop such as easy so I like ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47   to delete a bunch of files it just says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   okay forget about that snapshot all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   those discs all those blocks that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   part of that snapshot that are not part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   of any other snapshot are now free so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   it's the magic of AP FS and I final note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   on this this tech note which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   everyone should read is it has it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   forced to explain the horrendous UI of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   Time Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   specifically the weird timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/426">TS</a>]

00:07:10   scrolling thing on the right with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   that like is it a little zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   timeline some poor tech writer had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16   had to write out if you have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   these versions the operating systems a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   bright red tech more tick mark means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   this a dimmed red tick mark means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   if you have a different version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   operating system a great tick mark means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   this a bright pink tick mark means this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30   and a dim it pink tick mark means this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   word these are these colors are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   similar to that having I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   have guessed all this stuff how you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   the interface many many times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   there's not a lot of text it's like time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   machine good technology even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   got rid of the swirling vortex which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   would argue is the best part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   interface they got rid of that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   though it's not like ably frivolous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   the rest of the UI is not it's not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   I don't know what these colors mean I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   read this tech note I'm never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   remember this I don't know what dimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   pink means what what is bright pink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   dimmed pink it's if you only have dimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   pink how can you help them think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   it's not bright pink unless you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   bright pink to compare it to this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   bad interface Apple please work on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   oh wow how do you really feel John back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/490">TS</a>]

00:08:14   this time this is a time machine who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   just one of the many things that like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   we have gotten you know the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   of the whole world and all that balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   focused to iOS it's one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   things on Mac OS I look at and it's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   just kind of sad that like if Mac OS was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   was still getting seemingly meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   effort put into it this could be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   more by now like this this could be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   much better but it just seems like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   of Mac OS is not only in maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   mode but seems to have the B team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   working on it and it's just it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   sad and it's a little bit buggy too like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   I spent time in the interface trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   find things and sometimes it does weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   stuff and you just just shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   didn't try it for a second time and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   usually works a second time who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   why it didn't work the first like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   there's a lot of cool tech under there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   and you could build lots of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01   new eyes on top of it and the initial UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   was fun and cool and interesting and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   good ideas behind it simplified it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   the the way it's evolved our weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   hasn't evolved is kind of depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   well one more minor part in this they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   take snapshots before software updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   as well I don't know if they do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   with that like I don't know if is it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   there's any actual feature that says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   don't like the software update you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   don't worry we took a whole snapshot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   your disk and you can roll back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   right now I don't think there's any UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   to that but if third-party tools have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/567">TS</a>]

00:09:31   enough access to snapshots they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   offer that option just by listing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   your snapshots um and same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   Time Machine there was a backup program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   I don't know if it's still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/578">TS</a>]

00:09:38   development called backup loop that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   like hey Time Machine is cool why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   we make a cool powerful UI on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   for people who want to nerd out a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   bit more than is possible with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   default UI and that's the fun type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/589">TS</a>]

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00:09:54   but also at this point the bill Tilghman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   should be better - I don't I don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   time machine but I think it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   I'm almost never in time machine so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   doesn't have I don't have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   the crummy UI very often but did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   know about the dim dread no and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   bright pink no no no I didn't but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   know and knowing is half don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   that's the whole thing you didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/613">TS</a>]

00:10:14   this document and even if you read it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   will just bounce off your brain there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/616">TS</a>]

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00:10:24   wanted to take a moment out of our day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   to call your attention to the app camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/626">TS</a>]

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00:10:32   three of our hearts we tend to sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/632">TS</a>]

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00:10:47   link in the show notes to a fundraiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/647">TS</a>]

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00:11:17   to young young women to explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   technology and and you know try to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   see if they have a future in creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   the kind of apps that mark when I create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   and they they're smart enough not to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/687">TS</a>]

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00:11:37   please feel free to check out this link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   in the show notes and send them any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/700">TS</a>]

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00:11:45   you know they don't probably don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   using pearl it's probably some framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/707">TS</a>]

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00:12:22   glare your reflected like you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/742">TS</a>]

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00:12:38   things framed and it was expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/758">TS</a>]

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00:12:49   they're actually very lightweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/769">TS</a>]

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00:13:12   common thing and fracture prints are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/792">TS</a>]

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00:14:31   using or wanting to use a case with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/871">TS</a>]

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00:14:50   quickly scratched the screen within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   about two weeks of getting it replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/892">TS</a>]

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00:14:56   iPhone 10 it's apparently I don't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   if we talked about this last episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   a pair it's like $200 or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   that to do a front screen replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   and something like $500 to do a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/905">TS</a>]

00:15:10   glass replacement yes I mean we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   talk about it you're very tired yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/912">TS</a>]

00:15:16   anyway so the point is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   extremely expensive to replace anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19   on this phone I personally have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   ordered Apple care for my phone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   been debating it and I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   will which we can play this clip when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   inevitably break this phone in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   months but I have put the official Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   leather case on it I do quite like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   Appl other cases however the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/935">TS</a>]

00:15:39   bothers me about the most cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   including the Apple leather case is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   it makes doing gestures from the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   the screen considerably more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   and that bums me out but otherwise it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/946">TS</a>]

00:15:50   a nice case it's expensive it's like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/950">TS</a>]

00:15:51   bucks but it's a nice case Marco what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   you got going on I am also caseless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/954">TS</a>]

00:15:58   that's almost case ulis I bet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   haven't thought of that many times sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   yeah I'm also going caseless I I too was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/963">TS</a>]

00:16:06   cased only with the 6 and 6s not before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/966">TS</a>]

00:16:10   or after the 7 I got in jet-black as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   was grippy and I love that the 10 is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   know with the glass back and the smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   metal sides the I would say overall so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   far it does not seem as grippy as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   iPhone 7 but it's not as slippery as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   6 and 6s so I'm a little well slow down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   they'll slow down though it is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   grippier than my beautiful but bar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   soap matte black or whatever they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   yeah yeah iPhone 7 right yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   whatever it was called but the jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   is obviously a whole different animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45   I'm not trying to argue that but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   happen to be coming from a matte black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   iPhone or you know whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   equivalent was that I would say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   iPhone 10 is considerably more grippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   than that but it sounds like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   saying mark oh it is less grippy than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   the jet black that's what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   so far you know it could just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   like it's new and doesn't have all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   hand oil on it firm from a year worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   handle just really gross but that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   it works yeah it could be that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   the end but you know compared to the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   black it is not as grippy and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   also be that like while the glass is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   kind of grippy the sides are now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   regular metal again and so they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   so it could be that I don't know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   considered looking into some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   like film or maybe like a little stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   on like leather thing just for the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   of it with not even the sides like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   may you know they make is like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   single panel decals or stickers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   protectors for phones generally so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   think about doing that just to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   back a little bit grippier 4n just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   small amount of protection I too did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   get AppleCare as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   plain last week so I figure like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:53   know I'll see how it goes if I drop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   you everyone can make fun of me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   maybe I'll start you know spending $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   a year at Apple care from that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:00   forward but right but I mean it's tilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   like until I start typing my phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   I I'm coming out ahead by not doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   so you're still doing your math wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   you have to drop your phone enough times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   to equal all the $200 all the money you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   would have paid for all your phones it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   not $200 for each one because they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   to be cheaper but you have to add up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   that money and then if you wanted to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   to balance the scales you should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   only start buying Apple care after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   match that amount right exactly and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   far I haven't had to do that yet and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   ad like I would have to I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   pay full price for a lot of replacements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   to make my policy worth reconsidering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   and and also you know cases are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   part of that deal like cases are 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   bucks at least you know for like for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   decent one from Apple or you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   decent from anybody else you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   generally looking at around that price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44   range so like this stuff that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   you're paying for all these protective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   things but you're paying a lot for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   protection and so you really have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   breaking things on a regular basis to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   make that to make you come out ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   with that so anyway I am caseless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   are case ulis I you are also caseless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03   and I don't know I'm not caseless this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   time I was that's right I am I'm rocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   the black leather this time yeah how so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   so how is it it's like every other black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   leather leather case I've had I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   like it it's very nice but like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   the same one that they've been making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:17   since the sexes Bailey absolutely yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:22   mean I choose black because when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   wears it doesn't really look any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   different I know there's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   that like what is it like saddle brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   or whatever and once it gets worn it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   kind of gets that that that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   I don't know how to describe it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   really patina but it has that like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   to it and I know a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   really like that that's not really my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:41   cup of tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   and I personally like a very quiet case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   in the sense of visually quiet so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   always had black leather cases my curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   is apparently I don't know if he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   received it at this point but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   looking into getting a bumper which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   actually sounded really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   me I don't think it would be what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   would choose because that especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   that back glass if you shatter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   that's a bad day so I'm I'm gonna stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05   with the black leather case and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   see how that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08   the other thing with any kind of case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   and bumper is that it does interfere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   with the side gestures and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:16   like you know and once you get one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   you know I use my 6 and 6s the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   time I had them with with apples other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   case and and you do get used to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   but but it does make the swipe in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   the side gesture a little harder to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   and it gives you a little less room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   do it and also it just collected dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   around that edge and everything it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   don't I just I prefer not to use a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   unless I really have to or unless I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   like I really have to and so far with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   the 10 I don't think I'll need it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   only thing that makes me nervous is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   how expensive it is to repair and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   it is a new size that I'm still getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   used to holding and using so I'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   that later on in the show a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   but but so far I think I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   probably stay either caseless or with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57   some kind of minimal like stick on decal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   thing on the back just to increase grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   alright moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   John you do not have an iPhone 10 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   hand is that correct I thought you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   gonna move on like last week where Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   edited out the part where I said whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   or not I got Apple Care Plus just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:17   all about your wife it wasn't even about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   yours so it wasn't you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   iPhone 10 we're talking about it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   only one I have I didn't get one anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   to reiterate we got Apple Care Plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   because my wife drops her phone she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   drops her previous one twice also on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   leather case the leather case for the 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   is way better than the level the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   case for the 6 was if they change to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   like metal volume buttons that poked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   through where is the 6 headlock these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   lumps in the leather I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   the leather case for the 10 is but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   tell you the leather case for the 7 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   big upgrade over the 6 for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   buttons and I heard people saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   really like the leather case for the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   that it had like aluminum buttons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   whatever same thing with it with the 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   case and that is much much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   the lumps as for cases I've always used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:01   the case on all of my iOS things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   well you've used a case and and what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:08   you yeah whatever I saw you you had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   a little baggie that you would put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   phone on couch yep yeah I use the pouch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:15   mostly I mean I don't know why I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   using I think I got it from my applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   touches mostly just so I can shove it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   my pocket without worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   anything hitting the screen and also it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   basically cleans the screen every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   do that around the house I don't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   obviously right it's only you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30   I'm when I'm going out or run it's in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:32   most of the reason I'm getting the cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   is for hand grip and for surface grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38   but in the modern era I think the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   reason I probably will never go without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   a case despite everything Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   about gestures were just true is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   it evens out the camera bump and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   super drew on the 10 as we will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   about so yes I'm using a case on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   iPhone 7 my wife got silicone cases for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   her iPhone 10 and because she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   impatient and loves different colors she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   got two of them just like she did by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   commuters you got three for a success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   Plus anyway so the second case looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   good yeah actually the be leveling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   the camera bump is a is a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   that's another reason because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   camera bump on the six is noticeably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   larger I think than the in the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   ones and so like for the for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   time I'm actually interested in leveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   out the camera bumper I didn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   before all right so yeah I have our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   to ask ATP from Kapila wa mala Ratan a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   hope I got that right do you think Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   lagging behind Google assistant will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   eventually hurt iPhone sales and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   individual says I'm currently very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   tempted by the pixel to uh I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:39   it's an interesting question I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   you that I've gone through I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   I'm I feelings about Siri go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   kind of a sine wave where the the peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   of the sine wave is like the grudgingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   accepting how bad Siri is and right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   I'm in a valley because I friggin hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   Siri and I feel like it's constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   giving me wrong data or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   understanding what I'm trying to tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   but I don't have an Alexa in the house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   don't have a Google home in the house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   don't really ever use any Android or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   Amazon devices so I don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   what I'm missing and because of that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   me I mean obviously and obviously I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   all in on Apple anyway but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   for me in people who don't have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   these multicultural households if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   will in terms of you know assistance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25   don't know that anyone really realizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   how crappy Siri is including myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   but I'm curious to hear for like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   guys that have multiple you know talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   tubes in the house do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   this is a much bigger risk you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   me it depends on what you're using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   for you know for me Siri is a is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   one part of why I choose Apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   and why I love the iPhone so much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   why I use the iPhone over other phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   I think Siri not being as good as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   should be is a real problem and but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   a real problem that is of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   degrees of severity depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   product you're talking about so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   something like the home pod that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   problem like if Siri is not somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   miraculously way better and way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   consistent and way less aciem that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   less personality on the home pod then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   is everywhere else right now then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   home pod is gonna be I think really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   annoying to use in practice because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   it's when well that's the only interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   you have to something it really has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   be good and consistent and smart and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:34   has to do the right thing like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   time and that's what the Amazon echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   does like it yep the echo is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   really good it's really consistent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   hardly ever fails and when it does fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   it doesn't do so with a cutesy response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   where it's trying to be funny that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   really just makes you want to set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   world on fire Siri in that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   context is gonna be a problem I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   but in you know for my phone the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:03   other reasons I choose the iPhone are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   much greater than the variance between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   Siri and the other voice assistance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:12   the other reasons will always overpower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   that difference even if the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   didn't have Siri at all even if it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   not have any voice interface at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   would still choose the iPhone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   anything else just because the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   it is so compelling compared to that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   other people might have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   responses to that but for me and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   for a lot of people I think the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   features are really secondary and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:37   their convenience features on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   most of what you do on a phone is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   through that voice interface for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   so you know again like if your use case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   may vary but for me it's like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50   Siri to be better for lots of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   and I think it needs to be better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   lots of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   but it's not gonna kill iPhone sales in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   a meaningful way if it's not so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   missed the key booby trap in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   question here which is the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   eventually yes that's right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   everybody's favorite it's gonna rain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   we'd like an infinite times to Gale horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   or something ya Gong do you think Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   lagging behind Google system will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   eventually hurt iPhone sales so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   two aspects of this and the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   picked this question I'm never gonna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   a gong in my office I have to bail up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   here but the bells nice and small a gong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   is not small at a time scale Gong yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   mean you can get a little desk gone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   I mean if you're gonna get a gong get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   real one you know get like the one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   on the floor stay and ear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   accessories need to be under control air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   so the the eventually part of this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:41   voice assistants become more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   important on phones and Siri continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   to lag behind Google assistant then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   think your calculus might change Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   if everyone else is talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   phone's constantly and get an awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   response from it and it's like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   convenient way to do a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57   things but cereal continues to lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   behind that may change your calculus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   exactly how important you feel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   nothing to make you buy an Android front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   or whatever but the other angle on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   is that Google assistant is available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   iOS the only difference is that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   privileges Siri to be the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   good system integration so Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   ultimate out if it can never get Siri to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:20   be as good a Google assistant and if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21   voice assistance on phones become much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   more important than they are today Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   always has the ability to say assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   you know Google Danes to continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   on the iOS which I assume they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   because if they're on now and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   80% market share I don't see why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   wouldn't be forever is okay we will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:40   make api's so that any voice assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   has the same kind of integration that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   Siri does and then voila your iPhone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   just as good a voice assistant as Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   because it's the same voice assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   that would be kind of a failure scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   and showed that they couldn't hack it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   with Siri but I think it is likely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:56   voice assistants will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   become more important on phones than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   they are today I'm not sure how far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   it'll go but certainly I'll become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   important and more important to KC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   point about us having cylinders in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   house I continue to have really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   customer status of but every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:16   while in addition to asking you to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   timers and do math for me right I I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   yell from three rooms away not even yell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   just like like this is the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   thing where I was blown away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   like I'm in my TV room but just like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   rooms away it's like kind of on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   other side of the house but on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   floor and we were having debate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   the ages of actors on the show we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   watching and I just asked to the air in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   a slightly louder voice than normal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   not screaming you know name of actor how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:44   old how old is this actor and how old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   was that actor it gave me the answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   like it didn't say I can't find a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   by that name or didn't misspell it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   mistranslate it because it's powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   Google and Google is the ultimate engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   for typing a bunch of characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   you think might approximate the spelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   of a celebrity's name and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   they're celebrity it goes I think I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   who you meant even though you got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   name totally wrong and it works over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   voice too that's not a very you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   amazing thing to do but if I had taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   out my phone and asked Siri to do it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   asked the home pod I can just imagine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   picking a name for my contacts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   sounds like the celebrity name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   giving me their age or saying there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   birthday information or saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   couldn't provide that information so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   think the lead is real and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   will eventually be a problem for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   but I think Apple has the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   turn back the clock to 2007 and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   Google powers all of our cool cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   stuff because they're great at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   we make the hardware in the OS which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   would be bad as far as Apple's concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   but it's always there as an out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   I would say though is like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   context of phone sales which is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   with a question which really about we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   had voice input on laptops now for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   while but it hasn't really resulted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   people talking to the laptops very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   the the primary way that people interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   with their laptops by far is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   typing and looking at things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   screen my mom my mom talks to her laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   a lot more than you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   I think there is a there is a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10   divide of traditional computer users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   people who for whom even crappy voice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   better than mouse and keyboard it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   it's not widespread you're right most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   people don't talk to their computers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   if voice assistants become better I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   like that could start to change too oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   yeah but but I'm saying like it's we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   had it now for a while and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   while some people do it it still is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   the primary way most people interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   with it and phones we don't even we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   now had voice assistance on phones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   one day longer than Steve Jobs has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   gone so that's it's a while now and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:46   still have not become the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   interface for interacting with phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   and I feel like every form factor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   computing device you know they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55   compelling they become useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   popular to be used in certain ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   you know the laptop is established as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   like the mainstream PC thing and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   the way you use a laptop it's with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   keyboard and a trackpad and that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   established for some time and nothing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   really going to change that meaningfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   probably a phone has been established to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   be a screen that's hand held or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18   approximately hand held that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   touch with your finger and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   multi-touch gestures and type on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   glass and everything and like have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   be the primary interface you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   other things with them you can control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   it by voice you know you can do other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   methods with these things but those have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   been the primary interfaces and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   time we really haven't seen anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   suggest that these basic form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   categories and the way you interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   them really meaningfully changes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   dramatically changes over time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   a laptop that you buy today while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   keyboard sucks and it has no ports is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   roughly the same proportions and form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   factor as laptops we had 15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   it's just better you know but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   same general thing the same approximate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   size the same approximate you know class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   of device and you interact with roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   the same way so a phone over time if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   think about like even on your infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   time scale argument like you know phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   might be replaced by something else down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   the road you know but eventually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   probably will oh they're pretty they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   compelling now for and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   probably will be for quite some time a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   phone's primary interface is very likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   to remain touch for a very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   probably for the entire rest of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   that phones are relevant devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   people carry but doesn't matter what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   primary interface is though like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   agree with you like it's got it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   giant screen that you touch like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   course that's gonna be how you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   interact with but if voice becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   more important part of how you interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   with the phone doesn't be the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   way doesn't mean you stop touching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   screen you're always gonna touch screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   the whole point like you said it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50   your hand it's a little thing in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   hand until it's replaced by like magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   eyeglasses or some other thing in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   ear or something or whatever yes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   gonna be touching it primarily but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   imagine I imagine very frequently how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   much better voice could be when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   driving a car and I hear my little phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   being in my pocket I would love to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   read the text for me but I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that I can't even say hey Siri read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   text for me because it won't hear me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   because it's in my pocket but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   connected to bluetooth through my car so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   it's using my car's crappy microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   like it could be it could be better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   for for you know when the voice didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   exist on iOS devices people were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   touching them entirely right there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   no no sirree right when voice was added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   it didn't really change our lives that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   much except for maybe we use a set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   timers and stuff but it radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   changed the way my mother uses iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   devices and Macs because her primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   typing interface is speaking to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   devices now does not mean that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   primary way she uses her laptop or her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   phone is by voice of course not she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   using the mouse or the trackpad or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   know their fingers to use the iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   but anytime text netbook comes along she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   dictates it I can tell because I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   dictate O's and all four stop I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:58   picturing as a vegetable even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   know what you meant but yeah sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:03   it's funny you have to kind of sound it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   out to figure out what she was to be she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   doesn't she doesn't go back and edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   because editing would require her to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   to like place the cursor in iOS on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   phone and you know it's not gonna work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   with her vision and her fingernails is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   just not gonna happen but I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   really has changed how she's done things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   and if you said you can have a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   or a phone but it won't do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   speech to text she would not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   so all I'm saying is I think it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   potentially become more important and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   Google assistant gets to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   I can do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   who just texted me was that my wife like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   if I can interact with it in kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   naturalistic way and a regular tone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   voice and have an expectation that it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   know what the heck I'm talking about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   responded in a reasonable way that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45   game-changer right you you cross some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   threshold just like touch responsiveness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   cross some threshold with the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   it's like oh I see that Touch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   supposed to be voice it's not there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   but I feel like it could get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   become a more important part of how your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   phone worked any of you saw everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   else driving with their Android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   interacting doing those interactions not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   as their primary using the phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   just like sometimes it's that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   convenient way to do stuff if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   that happening and your iPhone can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   it because every time you try to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   it like the bloops at the wrong time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   like tells you it can't help you or runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   like a web search and says I found five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   things about is that for my wife yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:21   that's fair and and I do you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   right that like if there's radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   differences between Syria and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   competitors that it does start become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   issue but it's only an issue to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   degree that voice input is important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   that device and so if input is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   the secondary way you're interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   with this thing if you're mostly still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39   touching it and you and voice is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   like the secondary set of features it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   way less important whether the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   input is mediocre or excellent and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   think Siri can continue and it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   because the rest of the phone is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   better than its competitors and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   almost everybody for almost every recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   sorry Android people that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   way it is because the primary interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:02   is so advanced and so compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   the secondary interface I think has way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08   more tolerance to be mediocre and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   not make people change their buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   habits really like I'm always depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   that I can't even get like my immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   family to to get on board with iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   and this is the thing where I start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   worry that even though it seems clear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   us that iOS has advantages like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   are you know advantages that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   appreciate it's very clear that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   advanced just that most of the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   the world does not appreciate or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   least they do not appreciate them enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   to pay for them so I you know my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2256">TS</a>]

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00:45:39   forget one morning like one weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   morning or an 8 a.m. I did my typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   order and went to see what's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   for in-store pickup and I saw that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   local Apple Store has the phone that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   wanted so I said please reserve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   from me I will come pick it up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   appointed time and we did and we came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   picked up at the appointed time now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   was tricky because this is my wife's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   remember she had an outstanding order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   and we did the Verizon Way where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   enter all the information so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02   you get the phone it's basically already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   assigned to her phone number when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   take it out of the box and activate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   it deactivates your other phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   everything right and like that's we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   that in process it would not let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   reserve for in-store pick up a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   with her same number on it right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   it says you already have a phone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   you know in process the only way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   do this it said basically was to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   the order and then like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   return it or something like it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   even give you the option to say if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   can't see the other order will let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   go through this or it said no you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   do another order until that order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   arrives so we're never so instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   ordered the iPhone 10 from me with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   telephone number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   because my wife just wanted to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   phone she's like just do it just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   whatever it takes to get the phone we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   start it out afterwards and so we did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   ordered it with my phone number and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   thing and took the iPhone 10 went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   store to pick it up took it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   box it activated as my phone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   deactivated my phone then we did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   sim swapping and a couple minutes later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   we were busily updating the stupid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   to iOS 11.1 because it shipped with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   eleven point 0.1 and restoring from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   backup and completely forgetting to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   the watch thing which we'll discuss in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   little bit but all in all she eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   got her whatever the hell it is black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   Space Gray 256 that now is correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:16   assigned to her telephone number and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   back on my iPhone 7 alright I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:23   just start with some of my impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   and if you guys let me I'll carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   until I'm done but in all likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   we're gonna end up just all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   talking about everything so oh wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   before you begin the point I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   make what the in-store pickup if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   have an order with Apple and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   waiting and like oh man I go wait three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   weeks just everyday in the morning go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   the Apple Store app on iOS try to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   it and see it and do in-store pickup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   it's before you complete the order it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   show you what stores have the model and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   the model and size available in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   area available for pickup there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   of availability every single day new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   stuff comes in every single day in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   morning just do that it's really easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   get a phone for local pickup before your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   one that you are comes you can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   just cancel your order which is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   did so I would encourage everyone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   being a patient or the phone do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   look for in-store pickup everyday so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   initial impressions at the time I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   to take some very very very brief notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   it's heavy or at least I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:18   not bad heavy just oh this is heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:22   kind of heavy curiously though the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:27   doesn't act I don't get actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   reminded that it's bigger if that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   sense like if I think about it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   half second oh yeah this feels bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   than what I'm used to but it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   the Plus Club where I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   holding a dinner tray it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   it's close enough to my old one that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   feels about the same do you do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   similarly or do you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   definitely notice the size Marko so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   took notes as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   like experiencing it just so I could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   know get some opinions down my first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   notes are it looks great period it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   heavy period my first to my initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03   reaction to it very very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   I actually just for the second compares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and I just pulled my iPhone 7 out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   drawer and first of all man this is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:13   grippier have a no question way grippier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:17   but yeah the weight difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   immediately apparent going either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   direction you know it's it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   a weighty phone but you know I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   you know about the size I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   that it does not feel that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   feel like a plus phone I will say though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   it is like having a regular iPhone 7 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:37   your pocket and in other places like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40   know in Docs and in cars and then cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   holder isn't like it feels like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   iPhone 7 physically but when actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48   using it it feels like using a plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   because it's so much harder to reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   things hmmm I see your point so it likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   to summarize like it's like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   plus in your hand but a7 in your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   I mostly agree with that but I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   in my hand that in my pocket my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   impression of it is is that it's taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   like I know it's not actually thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   but because it's taller when I mentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   envision it and think about holding it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   think oh that's the one that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   skinnier than my iPhone 7 but taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   it's not right but because it's taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   that's my impression and Margot is 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   right with like okay that's how it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   as a physical object what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   you start trying to touch your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   you're like oh there's a lot more screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   than they used to be and some of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:30   harder to reach I can get behind that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   do feel like the width is is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   that I notice most or that makes me most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:39   uncomfortable it's not I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   I don't have numbers in front of me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   not egregiously wider than what I'm used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   to but it's wide enough that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   ever so slightly uncomfortable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   think Marco you're a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   right that yeah the screen is big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   that this is really a two hand phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   I think because I just knew that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   screen was going to be much bigger that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   I was like mentally prepped for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   I was not mentally or physically prepped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06   being noticeably wider and if it ever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   there's ever a time that I'm reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:10   about the physical differences of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   phone it's because I'm trying to hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   and I feel like it's just just the hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   wider than I want it to be it's thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   than me it may just be because my wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   got a silicone case which might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   thicker than the other one that I'm used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   to and I have no idea if it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   thicker than the Sun but this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28   how it feels when I think about the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   and the silicone case versus the 7 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   the leather like I said at the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   of Casey that I feel like the 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35   skinnier even though it isn't and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   like not as wide right and I also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   the impression that the 10 is thicker I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   didn't notice the weight as much as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   - I know I recognize that it is heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   and I guess I'm I did him side by side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   would notice that but just having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   attended myself I don't notice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   weight as much but I noticed that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   thicker and taller it is thicker I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   put them on a desk with their Kimber was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   hanging off to normalize that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   non bump space and yeah it is thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   noticeably I will so they're like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   don't actually like what I'm not doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   flat on the desk comparison test it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   doesn't read to me as thicker yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   would agree with that I agree with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:12   you said Marko that it's beautiful one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   of the first things I noticed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   somebody else had said this on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   and I don't I don't recall who it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   but they had said it looks manias Panza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   reno they had said that it looks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   though the screen is photoshopped onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   the device you're holding and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   know if I would have character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   characterized it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   had I not read it already but that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   perfect description of it that it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39   like the screen is just photoshopped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   to this like object that you're holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:43   it is so I'm assuming it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:47   it's so close to the glass even closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   than it ever has been I can't wait till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   they actually get a screen on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   surface of something because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   exactly what we used to say like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55   they did the fused glass on the floor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   was like wow the pixels are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   they're so close to your fingers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   it's true over time that pickles have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   been getting closer to your fingers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   this is the closest yet but I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   I think it was slightly overblown to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   they look like it was far shot line yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   it does look like it's closer than other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   phones but it doesn't feel to me as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   I'm running my fingers over our magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   picture cut out of a magazine right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   it doesn't feel like the picture the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:18   on the surface there yes barely below it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   yeah either way yeah it just it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24   it's beautiful the screen looks great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   am I don't have a good enough I to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   able to tell tell you anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   color reproduction or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   you don't notice the blacks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   unless the black levels you don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   a movie on it no I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   watched movie with credits in a darkroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   that as a black screen with the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   title in the middle okay and then hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   up your seven with the same movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:43   realize the seven is showing a gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44   background with white text in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   yeah yeah no I'm with you I I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   think I I'm discerning enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   wowed by that until to your point I do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   side-to-side test or side by side test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   that does HDR too I realized that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   iPhone 10 is the only HDR screen I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   in my house find some HDR movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:06   iTunes it looks pretty good turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   but yeah the screen looks great I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:13   say that when I was on the plane earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   today I haven't be sitting in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   of two gentlemen that both had plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   phones I couldn't tell you specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   what vintage but they were both plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   size phones and looking over at one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26   them and I this is probably just telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30   you how much of a jerk I am but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   kind of repulsed by how big the chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   forehead work I looked over and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   just like oh god those look ancient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:40   they do it's a place for you to stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   your gum when you're not using it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   the table right John because at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   you know which one's yours no seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   though like they both look so ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   and just oh like oh god that looks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:57   old and in mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   like I feel like this unequivocally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   looks like the future and we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   happens with the notch but it just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   way newer and way more modern so while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:11   we're talking about the screen and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   of the you know typical like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   problem with the new iPhone stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   went around was about the blue shift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   in the screen there's you know Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   quality all LEDs that it apparently it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25   is I don't have no experience is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   too low that when you're looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   screen head on looks gorgeous but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   tilt the screen a little bit away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   you or too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   or whatever that the the colors shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   towards blue and so when I got phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:38   tried this and they're right it shifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   blow it definitely does but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   looking no cheating what happens on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   pre 10 iPhone when you tilt the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   off axis don't do it don't pick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   phone and do it don't look okay just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   tell me this is the pop quiz what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   happens on a pre iPhone screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   utility yellow I have no idea because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:59   doesn't matter because I always look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   my phone straight on or not at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   if I'm gonna have to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   diagonally I won't care if it shifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   slightly like this is such ironic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   don't think you actually do always look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   at it on axis like and I because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:13   you do look at it tilted I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   that changes in color like this blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18   shift are subtle enough that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   cares and to spoil it for you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24   preten I phones do what essentially IPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   LCD do as they get dimmer instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:30   getting dimmer in all spectrums RGB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   spectrum equally the ten gets dimmer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   the R and the G leaving the be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   bit more I'm not quite sure why it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   this but that's how it works but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:43   now take them both and put them in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   of you and tilt them both their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   off axis viewing it's not greater than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   either one of them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   but as Marco said either you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   looking at a head-on or it's tilted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   such degree that you don't care so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   you read a story about the iPhone 1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   it's green-blue shifting it does but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   is no more egregious than what every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   iPhone you've ever done has done and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   think most people well even if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   read a hundred stories about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   are terrified about it you will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   notice it in practice and this screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10   looks amazing from from from any angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   in all situations yeah it's a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   non-issue because the fact that neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   of us neither me or Casey could tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   what happened if you looked off access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   to the all the previewing I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   have told you either I had to do it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   like well maybe you know LCD is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   especially IPS LCD SAR well known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   really good of you know so I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   well I guess it's just a disadvantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   all LEDs I'll take it because I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   black levels but LCDs don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   right then I took my iPhone 7 and tilted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   I'm like nope pretty bad pretty bad tilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   it and it gets very dim very fast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   oh I never noticed that before and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   because you just don't you just don't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   normally use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   yeah after 10 years are using these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   things neither none of us can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   what happened so it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   obviously not a big problem practice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   and now that you look like go look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   go take your iPhone 7 and put it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   white screen tilted it's not subtle like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   it gets really dark really fast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   noticeably like if you put this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   camera be like terrible flaw iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   screen like that's just how the LCDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   working we're all just used to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   it's fine and the blue thing should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   bother most people speaking of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   that should not bother most people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   in portrait is a hundred percent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:19   non-issue for me maybe you guys feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   differently I'll give you a chance in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   second but for me and portrait a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   percent a non-issue in landscape it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   I don't think it's as egregious as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   expected we'll eat in either direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   but particularly landscape but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   definitely weird and noticeable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   landscape it doesn't actively offend me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   but it is kind of like huh that's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   so John in the in your usage what have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   you thought of the knotch so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   notch itself in portrait the only way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:54   manifests for me in a negative light is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:58   what it does to the UI in terms of well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:02   this is not really the fault with much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   but I suppose but like the the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   center and the notifications as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   in past shows I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   clever use of you know making lemons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   that are making lemonade out of lemons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   really clever used to decide okay now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   have this physical blob there we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   two distinct regions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   distinguishable and can do different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   functions so they put control centre in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:22   one and notifications on the other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   due to the very large size of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   I don't want to go all the way to the up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   left to get notifications if I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   to the top middle or top right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   notifications that would be way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   convenient for me as someone who mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   holds their phone in their right hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   and that's that's how the notch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   annoying me because it's pushing a semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:46   commonly-used control farther away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   my thumb right so that's yeah but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:52   other than that like the actual notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55   itself like mucking up my screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   portrait I don't even notice that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:58   there and it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   there and it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   escaped I don't tend to use my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   landscape landscape the main thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   annoys me is the proportion of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   in terms of like viewing video which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   what I'm gonna do it seems like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   the screen is wasted depending on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   the the aspect ratio is that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   chat room is saying that the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   thing is notification except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   right corner yeah but I can't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   right corner and also it doesn't occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   to me to swipe my fingers over the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   to do it most of the time even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   you can if only because I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   smear my greasy fingers over the lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   of the cameras which probably makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   difference because of focal distances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   but it's still something that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   averse to and likes it's it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:33   oh do you always use the upper right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:34   hand corner of your 7 no but my 7 is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   this damn tall so did you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   stressing us out in landscape like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   said it's I feel like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   screen is often wasted in landscape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   applications that do go full with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   landscape I don't really need I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   don't need them to say oh I wish you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   could have used that last little bit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   like imagine if you're reading like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53   web page and landscape or very often I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   rotating some stupid person's image of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58   text like they upload a heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   compressed JPEG of text that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01   read in portrait because the line length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   is 700 characters long so I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   rotate to landscape just so their image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   can get big enough for me to read their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08   paragraph of screenshotted text without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   scrolling the image left to right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   thought okay yep yep yep I've been here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   a thousand times right even then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   think that bothers me it looks awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   in screenshots and if you're designing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   an app I can imagine going am I going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   deal with this thing in landscape but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   far in practice the knotch hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   bothered me you know its presence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:32   its and the the lack of me but having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   those pixels between the two ears has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   not bothered me in any orientation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   just in portrait it's the reach ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   thing that's bothering me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:40   yeah I I have basically the same opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   the not really has not bothered me much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:46   it annoys me a little bit sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49   in practice it's it's almost like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   the iPhone 7 virtual home button thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   like I thought beforehand you know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   of us thought beforehand like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   gonna be a big problem it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   huge thing to get used to it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   really annoying and then in practice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   just wasn't and that's how the not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   is proving to be for me like as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   developer it's a huge pain in my rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:11   end it's mostly in landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   but but as a user of the phone it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17   is not that noticeable most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   I will say I do notice it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   transitions happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   that push content under it or pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:27   content out from below it so leaving an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   app opening an app any kind of full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   screen that gets presented in an app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   then later dismissed like you kind of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   when your eye is kind of drawn to notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   vertical things like that that reach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   top of the screen I do notice it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   but most of the rest of usage I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   notice the knotch it really isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   problem the only other time I noticed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:48   is when I try to tap it to scroll to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   top and it doesn't work like because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   nots is not touch sensitive so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   tap near the notch and it will scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   the top you can tap the ears it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   scroll the top but the actual not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   yourself is not touch sensitive they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   should just do it a drawing app it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   doesn't make the camera button yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   leave the camera on it just since when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   you put your finger over it it blacks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   out oh what a hilarious but clever hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:16   that was it didn't make it their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   review turns out what a surprise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   anyway yeah so yeah not so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   I really it really doesn't seem to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   you can argue whether whether they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   it to be there whether they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   done something more like the s8 but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:35   think what they did actually works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   I paint me to say that because the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   is so weird and in landscape it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43   is a mess but I never use my phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46   unless I'm watching a video in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:47   case I can have it do the zoom thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   where it doesn't show over the knotch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   which I think any right-thinking person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:52   should but but you wouldn't want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   you'll never like the video thing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   something that people should worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   because very little video unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3837">TS</a>]

01:04:00   watching like Lawrence of Arabia or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   something it's like you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   really wide aspect great right right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   phone is not the same aspect ratio as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   most TV in movies it's wider than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   TVs in movies it's the only time the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   to interfere with your video is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   you're zooming to cut off the top to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   bottom of your pictures it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:14   tall phone and when you turn sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   it's really wide yeah so overall not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:21   really a problem it is it isn't perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24   it's a little weird sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   overall it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   seems fine so unlike the iPhone 7 home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:32   button or whatever was the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   is introduced I don't think it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   here next year saying and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   I actually prefer the knotch to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   no not like you want no reference and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   I said I think when we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   about the notch a couple episodes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   Apple doesn't want the notch to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   it's a compromise that is necessary for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:47   a whole bunch of other stuff that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   gonna get to in a little bit right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   Apple can get rid of the knotch they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   will and no matter how big a part it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   becomes as a branding eventually this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   notch is going away when the tech exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57   to do it because if Johnny eyes is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   bless his heart the true in the mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   form of the iPhone is to be an unbroken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   it's not a round rack hyper ellipsoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   whatever that shape completely uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:12   and by the way it's speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   uniform that's another thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   phone it is more symmetrical more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:19   physically tactically tact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   yeah what's the tactile means like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:25   tactile and touch sensitively like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   surface features of it are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   symmetrical than almost any other phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   certainly I think it than any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   iPhone right because they all had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   something that was indented in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   on the bottom to tell you that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   chin and then the thing without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42   indents is the forehead or you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   feel the little speaker slit for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   forehead or whatever it's not like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   Apple TV remote and especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   have a case it's pretty easy to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   what's up and what's down because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55   case Apple's cases at least don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   anything on the bottom which will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   super important when we start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   about how you use this damn phone but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:04   have come closer than I've ever come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   before to briefly attempting to pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   a phone in the wrong orientation so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   is a factor and when Johnny gets his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13   and it is really truly uniform and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   there's no notch and like everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   it's the police featureless beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   polished stone I mean maybe we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   matter because maybe like you can pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   it up any way you want and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:25   orientation won't matter because at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26   point Johnny's removed the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27   buttons as well and we just all talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:28   it to change the volume it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   convenient just tap triple tap three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   tap over to via Morse code and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:33   change the volume or just say hey Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   turn the volume up 80% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   I'm getting all snarky but but either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   way that is a factor with the 10 it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   more symmetrical than previous iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   and there is the possibility of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   occasionally getting confused about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   which way is up but only briefly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48   think it's really a problem but it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   in the first few days with the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   had that experience I will say one area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   where they changed the symmetry aspect a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   little bit I think for the better is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   that unlike the 6 7 and 8 and their plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:02   varieties the sleep/wake button is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   no longer perfectly overlapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   symmetrically with the volume up button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   now the sleep/wake button has moved down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   slightly so it is centered between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   volume up and down buttons so now it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16   substantially easier to hit sleep-wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:19   or volume up without hitting the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   one accidentally but then you do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   hit them for that's how you get like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   the shutdown thing to come yeah usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   still be squeezing do it yeah or during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31   the command all delete sequence anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:42   yeah but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   the other thing I will say though about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:44   the sleep/wake button I do love finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47   that it is no longer lined up perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   with volume up however it is fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   difficult to double click it which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   it really annoying to use Apple pay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:57   actually take 7 screenshots when you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   to pay for something yeah like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   found Apple pay is is fairly tricky to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03   invoke with that double click my poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   wife would like I told her how to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   Apple pay I didn't tell her the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   about the people being confused about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   that the touch thing but it did say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   you know when you do Apple hey now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   so you know you hit the power button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:16   twice right but you know what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   when you're in like a checkout line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   like this is the pressure for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:20   perform it's your new phone and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:24   not you know you haven't used it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   but you don't want to look silly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   don't want to hold people up and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30   what she was doing was like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   brings up that little thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   screen that has like a highlight on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   screen says here press this button twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   to activate yeah mum pay or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   know that thing I think she was tapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   on that on the screen and of course it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   not doing anything and she's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   flustered and she I think she eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   figured it out but first experience it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:51   just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:52   that Guy'd that thing trying to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   what to do is a good interface and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   will help people but under pressure with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   people behind you at the checkout line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   everyone can be a little silly so tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:04   bit of learning curve there practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   beforehand and I am sure it will be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:07   also and it's also annoying when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:10   downloading a new app from the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11   after purchases have the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   where you have to double tap that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   at the other side button and if you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   your phone in your left hand that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   surprisingly hard to do without hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   any other buttons accidentally so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   it's just it's it's not a good gesture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   also wonder like why does that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28   be there why can't you just tap on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   screen or swipe up from the bottom or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   anything anything else yeah why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35   there be an on screen gesture to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   I don't understand why that has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:38   the only way to approve payments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   maybe if you're like holding your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   down like on a subway turnstile you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   something that's not on the screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   activate it I guess yeah yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   think you want a hardware thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   fallback but yeah but like why can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:50   just have a button on screen saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   know pay like what no I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   why I need to double tap a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   button while face ID has already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   authenticated me that doesn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   to me right yeah especially since you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   have to do face idea anyway before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   so it knows I'm right here like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   just yeah that that that's like the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   it's there's one of two changes to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:11   that really I think were wrong calls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   it to accommodate for this phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:16   and control centers location though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   really hope that iOS 12 changes both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22   those things or gives us options to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   change those things because like most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   iOS has adapted somewhat gracefully at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:31   least to this phone but that DoubleTap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:34   second to confirm payment and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35   control center being completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   unreachable is those are big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:40   where would you put control center if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43   not there because I agree with you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44   hundred percent that it is really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:48   inconvenient location but I'm I'm at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   loss as to where it should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   it's swap it for reach ability swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   down on the home indicator which doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   make sense physically but you can try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   yeah I turned on reach ability to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   figured I might need to use it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   the phone so tall and I really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   hard time activating that honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   it isn't on it is not an easy gesture to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   do because the the area if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   swipe down in doesn't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   height and it's already the very bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   the phones if I reach all the way at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   bottom which ironically for feature name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   reach ability is actually not that easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   and then swipe down which is also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   that easy from already being at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   bottom so it's that's not an easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   gesture to do there's lots of options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   where they could put Control Center I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   think some of them could be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   know certain you know maybe if you swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   up when you're already on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   screen you know something like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   it could be like the top half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   Notification Center somehow there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   other you could like swipe and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   be on the widgets screen like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   so many places they could put it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   know I I hope they figure something out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   that's better because where they put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   now is they basically taken the controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:56   that you are more likely than average to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   have to use while holding the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   one-handed on the move and they have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   them in the location that has the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   possible to reach in that situation so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:07   I think where they put it now is so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   that pretty much any other option would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   be better yeah I think control center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   itself could use some help and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:16   people mention this like I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   lockscreen now suddenly becomes much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   more usable when like it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:22   when face ID is in the mix like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:25   that we can wake the phone up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:26   touching the screen now means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   suddenly if I could configurable things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   from control center on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   instead of just flashlight and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   the other one it's flashlight and camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   camera which you don't even need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   camera there because because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:38   swipe from the side there are a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   other options there's like Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41   remotes and stuff but they made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   slightly configurable in Iowa's 11i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:46   which was nice it was welcome but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:47   they could do a lot more there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   of room on the screen and control center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:50   itself from from whenever they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   this new control center I guess it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:53   iOS 11 yeah you can configure it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   saying which things you want it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:56   can't rearrange it and the ones you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   figure get to go down and like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   other area as they slowly build like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   it's there's a lot of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:03   improvement in customization there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   some of that might actually help with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   the reachability controls that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08   the activation but once you activate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   if things can be nearer the upper right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:13   because that's where your thumbs gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   be because that's where it just was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:15   activate it like it just changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   calculus and how easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18   then while we're on this topic of Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   talking about the reachability gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   being tricky before we get to face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26   the other important aspect of this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:29   the lack of a home button manifests in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   in all of us learning about the lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:35   swipe up from the bottom of your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   10 gesture which is the replacement for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   hitting the home button and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   depending on how fast you do it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   you into multitasking and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   that but really one of the most common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   operations we all do and iPhones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   have doing for a long time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   essentially hitting the home button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   go home right face ID and touch ID which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   we'll talk about in a bit is a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   thing and when you talk about touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the home button sometimes it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   confuse the face ID it's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03   have to try face any multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   sometimes your finger is wet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   sometimes you just don't have it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07   right angle all that is true but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:10   one thing I never have to try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   twice and that's pressing the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   button for a non face non touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   purpose yes I do have to futz with face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   touch ID I do it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:20   touch of these really fast it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   great most of the time but everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:23   someone had to futz with it but never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   when I'm using my phone I'm I'm in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   app and I still I still go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   home screen I tend not to double tap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   you know multitasking but even if I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   that single tap or Delta it works every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   time I never missed the tap I can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   where the button is and when I press it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:39   works physical button fake home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   that doesn't move either way it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43   with iPhone 10 that gesture to go home I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:48   don't know how frequently but a nonzero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   amount of the time I have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   second or even a third attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   swipe up from bottom gesture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   remember there's no case they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   interfering with me the Apple cases do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4498">TS</a>]

01:14:59   not extend across the bottom and I watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   my wife use the phone and she too every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   once in a while has to try that swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   again it's not particularly time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:09   consuming but for a very common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   operation this is one of the aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   using the phone that feels like a slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   downgrade the reliability of what used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   to be a very very reliable thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20   pressing the home button now has entered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:24   the realm of sort of like touch ID where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:25   you might have to try it again and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:28   not sure why I'm missing am I missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:31   meaning my hand lower and the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   larger I'm not getting good swipe on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   and I'm missing because I'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   good at edge swipes because I've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   case and it's a different thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   thing when the edge has no case and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42   missing the target area am I starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   too high am i starting too low I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:47   know what it is but I'm having to swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   multiple times if you guys have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   experience where you got to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   second attempt at the home gesture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   feel like I have but it very quickly got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:57   a lot better over time yeah I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   had any unreliability for that I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   took me maybe a half a day to get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   to it yeah you should watch watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06   yourself or have someone else watch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07   to see if you're just instinctively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:08   doing it consuming the second you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:12   already there the second swipe is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   quick and I don't think I ever have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   do it more than two or three times but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   thought maybe it's just me so I watch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   wife without telling her that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:20   watching her do this I've seen her do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   as well to live in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   it could it's her phone so she's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25   using it it could it be a learning curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   thing I'm willing to dodge that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   saying like first week impressions first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:30   few day impressions that is happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   me a little bit I mean while we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   the subject of the home swipe I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   that another kind of questionable area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   for me is the multitasking gesture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   know you know everyone has their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   tricks for like oh you do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:44   circle or used to press and hold or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   whatever else but no matter how you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   it bring up multitasking takes a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   bit more time now it's a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   error-prone and if you want to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   quit an app now granted I know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   controversial topic and you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   need to force quit apps but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:03   you need to force quit apps and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:05   now significantly slower than it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:08   before because now you have to unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   I'm missing something let's now rest at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   home yeah you have to bring up the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   switcher which itself is slow then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   have to like press and hold on the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:17   to enable like a little wiggle mode like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   they have in the home screen either they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:19   don't wiggle anymore and then hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   minus button to force quit it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   is significantly more gestures and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:26   time than double tap the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:29   swipe up which is the previous way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   terminate that I like that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   because it's punishing habitual force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   quitters it is but I but it is also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   you know the the problem with the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   quit controversy the reason why you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   we can't just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:45   oh you should never need to force craps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   is because sometimes you do need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   force quit apps it's hard to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   something like this where it makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:51   force quit a lot harder to do and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   more hidden of a thing you can do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:56   hard to look at that and say well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57   heat that's a definite clear win because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   you shouldn't need to do this cuz yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:02   you shouldn't need to do it but you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:03   need to do it you know it's like and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   maybe not for battery life reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07   necessarily although sometimes that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:10   the reason some have to do that battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   life but you know it's it's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:15   thing where it would be nice if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   never had to do this and then you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   make it impossible to quit an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   because why I even have a way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   never have to do it but we do still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   to do it and so to make it harder is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:29   that much harder the prescient hold I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   the hater of Preston old as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   anybody I hit any action where I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:34   do something for a set amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35   there's no way to speed it up but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:38   this action I mean I don't do it often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   enough that I would be annoyed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   press and hold because once you press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   and hold you're in the mode and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   kill multiple apps bug on kill kill kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   kill kill so people can still do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   there's just a slight delay when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   press and hold to get into the mode I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   more with you on multitasking which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   find very difficult to get into mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56   because you have to like either pull up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:59   slowly like there's there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   bunch of moves you can still the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   that the end of that I think is nice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:03   if you want to switch back and forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   apps you could swipe side to side with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:06   no delay like you don't have to do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   weird motion but if you want to bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   the switcher especially especially this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   kills me if you want to bring up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   multitasking switcher from the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   screen I would wonder if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   surveyed people new iPhone 10 users ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   them it new this is hard find new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   10 users who know about the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   switcher but don't know that you whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   or not you can bring it from the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27   screen and ask them hey can you bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:28   the multitasking switch are from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   home screen I bet people think you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   do it because that gesture for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:33   weird reason is so much harder for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   do than it is from within an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   do you guys find that no you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:41   a go do it now take out your phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:42   now I've been doing it during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:43   entire conversation and I have about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   maybe two-thirds success rate you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:49   talking about this the come up and stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   or the environment from from the homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   from springboard go to springboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   bring up the multitasking switcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   mm-hmm I find that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   bring up the message which from apps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   just slow but I don't fail at it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   the home screen I fail at it it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:05   same exact juice I know it shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:08   but what's the different I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:09   what's different all I know is I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   as is it because they hide the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12   indicator and I somehow need that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   on the bottom of the screen I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:15   what the problem interesting ok I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   understand that maybe I miss aiming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:20   I'm swiping up is not my friend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:23   bottom is not my forte let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25   this could just be a learning curve but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   but initially like the first 10 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:30   I'm using the phone I thought oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   can't bring up the Maltese for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   that's what I thought and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   eventually I figured I had to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   you despite that after figuring out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   to do it like I would I would go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   home screen like alright we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   it we're gonna do it this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:42   nothing I'm swiping up uselessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   try again and do I have to go faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   slower am I starting in the wrong spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   and then eventually it comes up but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50   point out this is another area double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:51   tapping the home button works every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:54   the first time I can find the button I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:55   double tap it not if you have a triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:59   tap shortcut for an accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   feature enabled for app development I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:06   sure that you have to test all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   stuff but I don't have this oh my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   changed when I could just have Siri turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   on a voiceover then I can finally turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   off the triple click because there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:15   so many times when I would try to open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   up the app switcher accidentally triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   click instead of double clicking because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   the button was a little bit mushy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   something and then somewhere out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   world where I'm in public my phone says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   voiceover on I will say that I spoke to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:32   Erin very briefly before I recorded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:35   asked her what she thought of her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   and one of the things that she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   did not like was the change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   multitasking she because she felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   it was considerably more fiddly and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:48   there are like Marco was saying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   are occasions when she will want or need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   to force quit an app and it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:55   annoying to her that that the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   mechanism is so slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   what are these occasions and why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   both encouraged you know what it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:02   be really bad it's gonna be next next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   fall when we're trying to order our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   replacements to this phone using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07   Apple Store app on the phone and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   to force quit it over and over again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:10   get it at the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:11   just gonna be existing think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:14   we're all gonna fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   okay see when are you encouraging Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:19   why don't she force quitting apps why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   what are you doing this for I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   why you're so deeply offended by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   like she is not a habitual force quitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   but there are times when apps do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:29   that are not right well yes she does use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:35   Facebook but I don't have to frickin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   justify her actions to you you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4956">TS</a>]

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01:22:41   saying like shouldn't you be like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   if you think if force quitting is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   an important part of your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4965">TS</a>]

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01:22:51   misbehaves that you have to use anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4971">TS</a>]

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01:22:55   should be a regular part of people it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4975">TS</a>]

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01:22:58   broken or misbehaving and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4978">TS</a>]

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01:23:04   all the time like Facebook yeah but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   they're broken or misbehaving frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08   you stop using that app like broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   means like I'll come back to the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:14   stop using Facebook good luck with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/4994">TS</a>]

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01:23:20   oh it's because she uses Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5000">TS</a>]

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01:23:22   important but if you forget you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5002">TS</a>]

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01:23:27   often I force quit apps but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:28   maybe once a day I'll force quit an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   and and I would say the only reason I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5011">TS</a>]

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01:23:35   misbehaving now which add huh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   where you start getting into the booty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   you feel like like I feel like this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5018">TS</a>]

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01:23:48   you're like I've stopped it from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5028">TS</a>]

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01:23:51   you're misconstruing me not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5031">TS</a>]

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01:23:55   doing it because magic it's not that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:58   doing it because magic it's not magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5038">TS</a>]

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01:24:15   that this thing is doing a thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   don't want I want to stop it no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5057">TS</a>]

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01:24:34   be in streaming mode and when I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   Wi-Fi I prefer to use the bottom stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:42   like you but you're not letting this go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:45   until I cite a specific example that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   a specific example yeah all right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5087">TS</a>]

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01:24:57   from cellular Wi-Fi about whether it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5097">TS</a>]

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01:25:01   quit it and that becomes part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5101">TS</a>]

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01:25:07   quit it and I guess I just don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   apps in my that I use that do that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11   and you're all again you're over blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   the amount of times that I do this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:18   yeah maybe once a day across all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:21   different apps that I use during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:22   I'm trying to think back to the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   time I force quit anything on my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   guess it was probably the night we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:27   ordered the the thing because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:28   you had it to make the Apple Store app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   refresh your stuff I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   last time I did it and had I not ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   an iPhone at 3 a.m. I would have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   what's the time before that that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:36   forced quit I would be hard-pressed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   say hey Marco can you defend me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   one or you leave me I'll try he's forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43   quitting his own apps cuz he's writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:44   them and they have bugs no idea before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:46   script my own app I if you hit stop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   Xcode of course quits it no I I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:53   usually force quit maybe one app every 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:57   to 2 days for some reason and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   they're usually I think decent reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00   it and I don't think that's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   think that's an unhealthy frequency or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   unusual one I I was I would be I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:06   not have guessed those numbers he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:07   I said I just maybe use more apps than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   do or try and more new apps or more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:12   the apps use every day because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   use an app every day that has like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   annoying thing like that like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5175">TS</a>]

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01:26:18   app on my wife's phone it was we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5178">TS</a>]

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01:26:24   KZ Twitter if ik was having some problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   where it was we could switch to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   her Twitter accounts but not to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   one don't even ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   and like it would just go on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:35   or be I would say like contacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:36   Twitter services out of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   deleted the cash in Twitter if occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5198">TS</a>]

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01:26:41   Twitter who gives you and that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:42   did not help in this case and so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:45   to force quit it because it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47   kind of like stuck on that screen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   think that was like you should be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   buggy apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52   yeah well that's like you ported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:53   yourself from into a new phone and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5213">TS</a>]

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01:27:04   that's the last time I did it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5224">TS</a>]

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01:28:56   with the multitasking she didn't give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:59   crap about the notch either in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:00   way you know she doesn't really notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:01   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:02   she was very in and this is gonna I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:05   guess segue a segue us into into face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:08   she was very grumbly about the angle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:13   attack necessary for face ID to work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:16   by that I mean I think a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:19   she'll be like sitting on a couch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   something like that and maybe reclined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:22   or it just in a position where the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   she wants to unlock her phone but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   phone isn't necessarily looking at her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:31   and she was really annoyed that she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:35   to have some amount of consideration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:37   what the phone needs in order to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:40   her phone and she found that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   frustrating and you know what I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   she's right now it doesn't bother me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:45   much I don't think because I think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:48   often than not the phone is staring I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   staring longingly into my phone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   infrared eyeballs as I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   unlock it but but but I guess for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:58   whatever reason I mean because Mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   because Aaron because any number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   reasons she she felt like she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:05   frequently getting tripped up by face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:09   not unlocking because the phone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12   entangled exactly right and where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:16   seemed to bother her quite a bit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   bothers me only a teeny bit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20   other thing she said was and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   specifically around face ID but mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:25   around face ID like this did bleed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   other places like multitasking as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29   example but she just said that every is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   she said everything just seems slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:34   you know so as an example double tapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:36   a home button is much quicker than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   swipe up and stop the the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:42   touch ID is instant and face ID is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:46   instant and I was talking to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   just earlier tonight actually and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:51   saying to them you know if I if I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52   off my developer hat I am actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:56   lightly annoyed about how slow - how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:59   slow face ID is because it is noticeably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:02   slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:03   is it egregiously slow no it is not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:06   it is noticeably slower than the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   recent touch ID now when I put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10   developer hat back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   it is a friggin miracle that this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13   shipped in this quantity in the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   2017 like how is this even possible how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   is it this quick how is it possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   do all that computation that quick but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:23   when I take my developer hat off how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:24   this how is it this slow why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   have shipped it it's too slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   does that make any sense at all yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   think so I mean you know to me I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32   first of all so to get back to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:33   Aaron was saying like the angles of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:36   definitely hit that being like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   now a thing I have to adjust with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:41   and consider yeah I just didn't consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44   a couple of people in the chat were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   suggesting that maybe tried turning off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   the attention detection to make you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   a lot happier I think I'm gonna try that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   because I honestly don't need incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:54   high security what like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   there's a there has never been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:58   situation where somebody has forcibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   unlocked my phone by showing it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   face or putting my thumb on it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   anything like that so I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   really need that level of security so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:08   I'm gonna try that but but it definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   is like it takes some some habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:13   changing and you know what touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   maybe it did like that was so long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   now I don't really remember like did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:18   have to you know suddenly press my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:21   finger in a different way the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   probably that I probably had to adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   to that too and and part of what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:27   you know you were saying like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   this is just you know it's slower I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   multitasking like that's slower some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   things are slower touch ID speed does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:36   mean sorry face IDs speed does seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   be certainly between touch ID first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:42   second generation but a lot closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   the first generation and the second I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   would agree it's it's almost as slow as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:49   first generation touch ID which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50   still totally usable like it just we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:53   spoiled by how fast second generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   touch ID was you know so it is some it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:58   is a step back in that regard overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:01   speed to unlock the phone you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   terms of taking it out of your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   unlocking it and go into the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   I don't think it's that different I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10   think it might be a little slower but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12   don't think it's a big difference you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   know just because that swipe is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:17   fast and integrated in like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:19   continuous motion with face ID being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20   recognized like I think that's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:22   fine for accuracy I think it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:26   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:26   it seems again similar to touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:31   between first and second generations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33   maybe close to the first but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:37   found that in you know I've had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   phone now for a little less than a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:40   and I have mostly adjusted myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:45   optimize face ID recognition you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:47   both accuracy and speed like it did take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:50   some adjustment I do have to then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:51   know have it faced me at a certain angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52   and everything get within a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:54   angle you know it's like every other IO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   iOS developer who has phones tethered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:59   a lightning cable sitting on their desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   most of the day running apps on it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   really annoying that it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   while lying face-up on a desk because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   the angle is just too steep to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:08   when you're sitting at the desk and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   like well you're you are right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:12   will say in the defense of this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   was just venting that I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   pleasantly surprised by how aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:19   the angle can be when it is sitting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21   desk you are right that it does not work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23   you know nearest reliably is like touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   ID but I was surprised that at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:29   reasonably extreme angle it would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31   unlock itself when it's on the desk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:33   I'm not like directly over the phone I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5673">TS</a>]

01:34:36   you know offset by like 30 40 50 degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   and it still was able to work which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   doesn't mean nothing of what I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:44   makes you wrong all I'm saying is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   even though it doesn't work as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:48   I'd like it worked better than I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50   have expected so I haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   unlocking this phone with face it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   obviously because you only put one face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:54   in it in the faces my wife's on but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:57   I have been doing is a watching her use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5697">TS</a>]

01:35:00   her phone and be paying more attention I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:03   was doing this even before iPhone paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:04   more attention to the way that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   changed how I use iOS devices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:09   response to touch ID because we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   made changes to work with touch ID even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:15   if those changes are the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:18   instinctive thing I do when I'm locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:19   my phone that if it doesn't immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21   unlock lift my finger and try again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   right or grabbing my phone in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:26   my finger is on what would previously be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28   a point was place to put my finger like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:29   before there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:30   sensor why would I be picking up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:32   phone and having any fingers on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:34   button right unless that's how I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36   wake the phone up or something right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38   the but I have made adjustments in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:41   life to become a touch ID to make it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:44   you know to give me the final experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:45   so that when I take out of my pocket I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   can start using it as soon as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   and a lot of those are like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   gripping the phone or in a weird way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52   then you touch this thing and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:53   immediately bring your thumb up to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   other stuff because you expect the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:56   to be unlocked the thing about face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:59   before we get into all the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01   jumble of stuff is you have to address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:03   yourself in the same way but with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:06   ID what you were adjusting is where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:10   when your fingers touch different parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12   of the phone with face ID you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:15   potentially adjusting your entire body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:17   posture to a company to accommodate face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:21   ID like so when it's on your desk yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:24   it can work at pretty steep angles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   for people who are accustomed to leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   their phone face up on a flat surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   and waking and unlocking it with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   ID being glancing on something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   putting it back to sleep that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   gonna work if you if the phone is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   off to your right like it's by your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:39   right hand or whatever and you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5799">TS</a>]

01:36:41   glance at it you have to kind of not Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:44   over your phone but you kind of got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   get in the zone of the phone sensing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:50   you can't put your finger in the zone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:53   your hand in the zone you've got to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   your head in the zone your head is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:56   connected to your neck which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:57   connected to your body which means your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59   entire body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:00   that's leaned over to be like hi phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   even if attention is off it needs to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   the shape of your face from some angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06   and is impressively wide but you do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:09   to get not getting the phone space but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:12   you kind of got a hover with the phone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13   little bit here I am phone and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:17   finding from watching my wife work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18   the phone and for most other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   stories is that a surprising number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22   people use their phones in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:25   does not involve their face being over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:27   the screen of their phone casually on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   the arm of the sofa unlocking it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:32   just waking it from sleeping glancing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:33   but you can still do is you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:34   to unlock it to do that while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:35   looking your notifications or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:36   or really far down where you pull it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:39   of your pocket like but your hands are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   still down by like your thighs and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:42   just turn the phone up and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44   whenever and it can't get your face from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:45   that angle or it's being blocked by your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:46   leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:47   these are habits that will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48   change for people to to use face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   because it's got to see your face right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:53   and maybe the second gen will be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55   about seeing your face and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57   distances and more angles but that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5877">TS</a>]

01:37:59   change in habits which we expected but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:01   it's a change in habit that involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   more of your body than the change in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   house for touch of yeah I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:06   minimize the changes retouching because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:07   as I've been noticing them there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:09   of them and I find my characterization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:12   of how fast it is again just watching my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:14   wife do it because I can't be doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16   myself well I did use the demos in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:17   store which isn't we're just neat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:19   can have a little thing that just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   know you if you learned that your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:21   then you just unlock this pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23   screen that just says we recognized you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25   I'm pretty surprised at how fast it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:29   like a little bit of what Casey said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:32   being a computer nerd like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:35   it must take to do this and it is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:38   inspiring that they are able to award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:41   innate hardware and software and do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:44   thing it's it's really fast like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:47   see my wife use her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:49   it really does look like with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51   defining stories say which is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:52   like that phone has no lock on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54   because when I see her phone you her use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   her phone and when everything works the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   way it's supposed to I never see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:00   unlock her phone I see her pick up her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02   phone swipe and start using it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:04   what I see her do I never I never see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:06   don't even notice the little lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:07   animation thing you it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   she picks up her phone in August you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10   don't have a lock on that phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:11   that's how it's supposed to work but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:14   all those other scenarios where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:15   face can't be over your phone it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   like it works too slow or recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   fails it's like okay sorry can't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:23   see a face anywhere around here so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:26   then your fallback unfortunately is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:27   touch ID which I said that unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29   got me thinking about this too a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:30   with both touch ID and face Eddie would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   be bad for reasons that don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34   have time to get into right now but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36   it's in all the positions that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   trained ourselves to be able to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:39   unlock and use with touch ID you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:42   either got a loom over your phone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:43   little bit more or change your habits to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45   bring your phone a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:46   closer or don't leave it flat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:47   table or whatever and I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:50   trade-off will be worth it but for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:53   it seems I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:57   I wish I could have had my wife come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:59   the show and see what she really thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   but she's only use it for a short period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:02   of time but her only really strict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:05   complaints and these are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:06   give you fix and software is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:07   work when she's laying down in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:08   because I think it just doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   sideways is that been your experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:11   yeah yeah it it doesn't work in port in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:16   landscape but when I am laying down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:20   the phone is figuratively stand down it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:23   doesn't work in that drives me bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:24   cuz I use my phone like that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:27   yeah not and she's doing it laying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:28   her side to be clear so that in bed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:31   pulls the phone off for a nightstand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33   there's no reason it can't work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:34   that it should work fine like distances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:36   are all fine good view of the face blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:37   blah blah unless your face is squished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39   into the pillow make me I guess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:41   doesn't have a good angle a side of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:42   feels like it should work like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:44   that's one annoyance and she did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:47   some complaints about using you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   dark but I I think that's mostly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:52   angle and distance because the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54   doesn't care about the dark because face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   IDs done entirely and IR and IR doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58   care about the dark that's my is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:01   right am I getting that right yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03   and although IR I'd also like to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:06   on that and say so when I'm in bed I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:09   don't have my contact lenses in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:11   I wear hard contacts because my eyes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:13   really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:14   and what I'll notice is in order to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:18   well I'll have the phone extremely close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:22   to my face like uncomfortably for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   normal person close to my face and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27   it's way too close for face ID and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29   that's kind of annoying to like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31   annoying enough that that it it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:34   occur to me until you said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:35   about it but that's also a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:38   frustrating but I feel like I'm pooping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   all over face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   it is a mainly truly even as a consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44   it is amazing what's happening and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46   once you layer on top of that like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:48   and I were both saying you know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:51   computational how many computational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53   things just how much effort must this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:56   take to work how can it possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:59   working this quickly and battery power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:01   like you know it's like spraying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03   face with this ion the IR flood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05   illuminator and the dot thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   you're using that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   the IR camera to pick up the dots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10   then you're processing them it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:11   it's like the being paralyzed by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13   first voice-activated phone tree you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15   like what but how how can this even work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:18   and but I said when it works when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:21   watch my wife use her phone and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:22   it's like her phone does not have a lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24   on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:25   and from her maybe I'm consciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:28   making sure that it's got a view of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:29   face I'm hoping that will become like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:31   Marco said more or less second nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:32   and we will all adjusted our body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34   posture to always make sure the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   can see us and it's pretty forgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38   like if you get the impression of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:39   oh I have to be in just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:40   position you don't like you just happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:42   to be remotely in the ballpark and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:44   gets the job done that's what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:45   amazing about it you feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:47   couldn't possibly even read my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49   because I wasn't even I wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:50   paying attention to like exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   viewer gets of my face like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54   kind of used in my phone normally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:56   if you're if you're in the ballpark of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58   holding your phone and looking at it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00   any way this is with attention on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:02   haven't tried to turn attention off it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:04   is pretty magical and in fact I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:07   the I have she's told me face ID has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:10   failed for her several times mostly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:13   I've seen happen is I've seen her miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15   the home swipe many more times than I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:17   seen her fail face ID I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:19   that means is one is more likely than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:20   the other or maybe you just go home more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:23   often like you unlock it once but you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:24   home seven times during that session or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   whatever but I will I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28   just survey her this is bad because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:29   mean this is all secondhand account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:31   because again I have never trained this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   thing on my face and she'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:34   never let me do that so I'll just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:35   to live vicariously but you two will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37   the real guinea pigs to see two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:40   from now have you completely adjusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:42   your entire body posture around face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:45   or and here's the real thing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:47   happens when face ID doesn't work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   you're laying down in bed or Casey's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51   his phone really close to his face I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:52   that too because my vision is bad not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:54   bad as Casey's but it's still pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56   the fallback is like okay I couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:59   faced I need to work and it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:00   because like it was at the wrong angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:02   like I'm not gonna sit up on my bed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:03   get face lady to look the fallback is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05   you have to type in your passcode right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:07   so the real test is preface ID I typed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:10   through my passcode this number of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:12   for a day post space ID two weeks later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:14   a month later how many times per day do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:16   I type in my passcode I'm gonna say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18   pre you know like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:21   still preface ad with my touch ID iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:24   7 the only time I type in my passcode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:27   when it insists that I do so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:28   like it's either than 48 hours since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   unlocked it or it's like an OS update or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32   something I don't think there is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:34   time even with wet hands with wet hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36   I will do the thing where you remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:37   your thumb put it down remove your thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:38   and put it down try it out I will I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:40   do a surprising number of attempts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42   like wiping my finger or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:44   would do anything to avoid typing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:45   very long passcode right and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:49   basically never type in my passcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:50   but when face ID fails if it fails her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:54   reason that you know like is not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:56   no help like you don't want to sit up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58   bed the next thing you do is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00   resign yourselves type in your passcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:02   which means no more giant alphanumeric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:04   pass codes because you'll drive yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:05   insane because who wants to like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:07   you're laying down sideways in bed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:08   you're all groggy you do not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:10   type out a 17 digit alphanumeric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12   punctuation capital and lowercase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:13   passcode that super security you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:15   awesome nobody wants to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:18   downgrade to a shorter numeric passcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:23   or you will really start to hate face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   because there is no other option it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27   not like well face ID failed I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:29   can use touch of it you can't like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:31   face ID or it's typing oh I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:33   have a tangential question about this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:37   what is the best protocol for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:43   somebody has grabbed my phone and looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:46   at it which is not unreasonable maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48   asked them to look at it or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:49   like that but face ID has recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:53   them and the phone is still on and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:57   they hand the phone to me and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6357">TS</a>]

01:46:00   enter my password is it that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:03   other person's face is different enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:05   that it's not gonna train on their face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:09   do you know what I mean because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:10   understanding is I had an item in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12   notes about that because there was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14   uh the video or whatever where two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:16   siblings who they're not twins but two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6376">TS</a>]

01:46:18   siblings who look very alike said hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20   look at this my brother whoever was can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   unlock my phone with his face but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   not the same person right and what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:28   happening in that scenario is it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:31   brother's phone and he's got trained on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:34   his face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:35   it works fine and the other brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37   tries to unlock it and it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:40   because he's got a different face but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:41   then he types in his brother's passcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6401">TS</a>]

01:46:43   which he knows and enters the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:45   that happens a few time and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47   theory goes what he's doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49   essentially trained like Casey was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:50   saying he is training the phone like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:52   silly phone you said you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:55   recognize this face but because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:57   immediately enter the passcode what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59   telling you phone is no no it's me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01   me the owner of the phone so that face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03   that you just tried to recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:04   you said was not the right face it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:06   obviously was the right face because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:07   just unlocked the phone I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:10   just like Casey said that this training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:13   only happens if the face is close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:16   face that it knows but not quite so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   it if an entirely different person whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   face is nothing like yours tries to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:23   face ID fails but then enters your code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:25   which I've done a little eyeful at many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:26   times because it always fails because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:28   face has never succeeded in unlocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:29   your phone but I have unlocked your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:31   phone many many times over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:33   setting it up and playing with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   you know practicing my home gestures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36   all the other things that I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:37   their phone right I am pretty sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:40   I am not messing up her training because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:42   my face is too different from her things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:44   and that the phone is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45   accept the fact that I unlocked after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:48   face ID failed as additional training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:49   data I don't know that for a fact but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:52   that seems like the logical thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54   an apple is a smart company so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:56   both things are smart thing is both to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58   ignore my face cuz is different and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:00   it's smart to train on that brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02   face which so if you have a sibling who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:05   looks a lot like you do not let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:07   repeatedly pick up your phone and fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:09   face ID and then to the coat because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:10   may eventually learn that this alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12   face that's kind of like yours is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14   yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:15   and it just looks different from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:16   time so don't do that so L bruise from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:19   the chat has pulled this quote which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:21   think is from the face ID security guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:23   which we'll put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:24   if face ID fails to recognize you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:27   the match quality is higher than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28   certain threshold and you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:30   follow the failure by entering your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:31   passcode face ID makes and takes another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:33   capture so interesting so that's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:36   once the pass codes been entered so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38   this point it would be of me anyway yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40   yeah you have to successfully enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:41   pass code like if someone knows your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   passcode like the sibling knew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:44   passcode yeah and so this is saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46   has to pass a threshold so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48   I am not training my own to recognize me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50   right but you know I'm on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:52   point I had assumed that it took the so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:56   so the our order of operations is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   picture it takes a picture of Erin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:00   because she's the one that's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:02   open the phone says you're not Casey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6542">TS</a>]

01:49:05   phone's handed to me and I enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:07   code what what I'm reading here is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:09   it actually takes a second picture I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:12   assumed it was still working off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:14   original picture of Aaron but this says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:16   a face ID fails to recognize you but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:18   match equalities heart of them certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:19   threshold you immediately follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:20   failure by entering a passcode face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:22   takes another capture and augments it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24   enrolled face ID data with a newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:25   calculated mathematical representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   yeah because you because it's facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   your face for the new capture but if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:32   knew your code and she entered your code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:33   it's still not gonna pass the threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:35   it's not gonna pass the threshold so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:37   match you know it's higher than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:39   certain throat hers is not within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:40   thresholds of learning of your face I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:42   assuming because yeah different yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:44   hear you one one of the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:46   that's been really great about face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48   is it has been surprisingly willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:52   almost uncomfortably willing to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6592">TS</a>]

01:49:56   when my face is occluded or or otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6596">TS</a>]

01:50:00   messed with and by that I mean I often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:03   have a finger like on my chin or I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:06   have a finger in my mouth cuz I'm biting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:07   my nails are doing something I shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6607">TS</a>]

01:50:09   be doing or well I went to a football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:12   game the day after we got the phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:14   I had like a hat on and I didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:16   hat on I had a hat in a hood and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:18   just a hood and so now granted a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   this is over your face but as in above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22   my face but my point is and you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:24   weekend beard do it this is a multi this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:27   and this might be a multi-month beard at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   this point but it's gonna go soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31   when spring is whenever we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:33   close to sprigs time of arrival I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:35   going to shave it all off cuz sprig is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:36   gonna beat me as I should be met which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:38   is without hair on my face eyes aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6638">TS</a>]

01:50:41   gonna work for a while you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:42   that this is how we played this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:47   before you know how this guy is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49   anyway the point is it did a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:52   really good job and continues to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:55   very good job of being willing to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:58   when portions of my face are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:02   are occluded and so like maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:04   resting my hand on my chin and my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:06   fingers are kind of rolled up and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:08   front of my mouth you know or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:09   like that it's it's done a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:11   good job surprisingly good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:13   rolling with that to the point that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15   almost feels like and I bet this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:17   true but it almost feels like the maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   eyes or or cheekbones are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:23   that matter most to face ID because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:27   rare that I'll have my hand in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:29   my eyes are like up on my cheekbones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31   anything like that but it is not unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:33   for me to have my fam I hands in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:36   around my mouth and so I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38   that's true but it just feels like eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:40   and cheekbones matter a lot more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:44   mouth the the mouth area if you will so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:48   on the topic of Aaron saying that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:50   just seem slower what I thought she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:52   might have been getting at before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:53   went off to describe the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:54   multitasking thing which I totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56   with is the animations and I realize I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6716">TS</a>]

01:52:00   probably only say that because I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:03   reduce motion and have for really a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:05   time so my iPhone 7 doesn't do almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:08   any animations everything is these silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:10   crossfades right but here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:13   about the iPhone 10 well first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:15   using in its and it's like default out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:18   of the box thing the animations do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:21   bother me as much as they did on the 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:25   and I guess the 6 or whatever like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:27   why don't they bother me like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:28   even more egregious even more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:30   swooping you like your things are flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:32   in from here and going out to there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6752">TS</a>]

01:52:34   think they bothered me less because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:38   gesture I'm performing for example to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:40   back to the homescreen swiping up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:41   the bottom matches with the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:45   chucking the current app back into its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47   little Heidi home inside the icon you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:49   don't I mean like how it flies into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51   icon yeah right and so I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:53   something that matches the gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:55   versus I press the button and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:58   went shrinky zoomy right they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00   disconnected again I've it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:04   phone I've just played with it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6784">TS</a>]

01:53:05   like but it doesn't bother me as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07   but I'm like ok well even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:09   doesn't bother me if I got an iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:11   I'm sure I've returned under his motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:12   so let me go into settings in turn I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:14   reduced No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:14   I doubt either one of you have tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:16   this but if you introduce motion on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:18   loan very strange things happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:21   there's not really good solution to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:23   them not strange you turn on reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:25   motion what happens is this you're in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:27   app you do the home gesture to get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29   to home and it starts to make as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:34   swipe up it starts to make the app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:36   you're in kind of fly upwards and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6816">TS</a>]

01:53:39   heading back into its little icon home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:42   but then abruptly once that animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:47   has started it switches to a crossfade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:50   and I thought oh let's do it why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:52   they just do the crossfade the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:53   time but because of the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:57   multitasking gesture like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6837">TS</a>]

01:53:58   can do it slow or whatever like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   it has to start the animation because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:02   it didn't start the animation like if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:06   it was going back to home screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:08   could say oh I'll just wait until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:10   cross the threshold of oh I see you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6850">TS</a>]

01:54:12   under the home screen and I'll cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:13   fade with doing no animation before him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:14   but if you're going for the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:16   switcher one says oh they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:17   to the home screen this is slow enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6857">TS</a>]

01:54:19   for me to bring up the multi Texas which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6859">TS</a>]

01:54:20   was then it's gonna be like oh crap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:22   didn't do it I haven't been doing any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:23   animations this whole time and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6863">TS</a>]

01:54:25   activating the multi-thousand switcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6865">TS</a>]

01:54:26   quick catch up and make it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6866">TS</a>]

01:54:28   they're animated up to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:29   their thumb is and that would be weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:30   too so if you turn and go turn it on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6870">TS</a>]

01:54:33   iphone 10 turn reduce motion now and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:34   the home gesture and just look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:36   it does it is a mess it is an animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:38   mess it's half one animation interrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:42   by a crossfade and honestly I think if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:45   had an iPhone 10 I would not turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:46   reduce motion because that just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:49   doesn't feel faster like a half an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:51   animation but that feels worse than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:54   the full animation and I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6894">TS</a>]

01:54:58   good solution so I like Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6898">TS</a>]

01:54:59   something dumb here I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:01   they can do to fix this problem I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:04   we just all have to use the animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:06   and like it which I realized you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08   anyway but I haven't been so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10   know I have an animation dilemma with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:12   the iPhone 10 I think maybe you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:15   the same way that before iOS 7 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:18   realized that we had kind of gone too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6918">TS</a>]

01:55:20   far with skeuomorphism I think we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22   be at that point with animations where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:25   like the the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6925">TS</a>]

01:55:28   unnecessary and almost like overly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6928">TS</a>]

01:55:33   exuberant animations that we have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:36   common actions in iOS 11 I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:37   little excessive like one of the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:40   things is like when you go to the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6940">TS</a>]

01:55:41   screen how your wallpaper kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6941">TS</a>]

01:55:42   slams up from beneath I guess like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:46   a very it looks very weird and jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6946">TS</a>]

01:55:48   and I've never seen that one because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:51   may need a hundred percent black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6951">TS</a>]

01:55:52   background actually recently switched to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:56   100% black background in part for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58   and in part because it just looks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59   awesome on the OLED screen I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:03   had a black back right but didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:04   not weren't you not able to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:06   background in the early days of iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:07   on us yeah it wasn't until I think iOS 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:10   that you could have a background at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:11   and it was and before that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:13   hundreds on black right yep yep so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:15   think that's why I never changed once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:17   you could get a background I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6977">TS</a>]

01:56:18   tried some backgrounds couldn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19   them they I like them like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:20   everything's been under percent black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:22   for us let me try that and and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24   and now I've been using how to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:25   black and the great thing is in iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:27   you don't have to upload a black image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:30   like I've had to do for every person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:32   yeah finally they have a solid color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:35   section and black is available to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:36   and yeah it does look great oh no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38   but but no they didn't notice that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:40   slamming and so like it comes up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:41   below kind of yeah it's it's almost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:43   though you're falling onto your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:44   wallpaper it's very it's a very jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:46   animation and I really don't like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:49   and yeah tips if comes out of it - it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:52   a very weird thing anyway so I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:55   we have reached the point with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:58   animations now where we can start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7018">TS</a>]

01:57:00   pull back it's almost it's almost part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:01   of what I was saying last week about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7021">TS</a>]

01:57:03   I wish Apple would have like a maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7023">TS</a>]

01:57:05   more confident design in that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:08   confident in the way they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7028">TS</a>]

01:57:10   don't need to show off that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:12   they know they're good and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:14   need to show off how good they are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7034">TS</a>]

01:57:15   the world they could just be good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7035">TS</a>]

01:57:17   I feel like a lot of these animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7037">TS</a>]

01:57:19   now have gotten to the point where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:20   are just showing off like this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7040">TS</a>]

01:57:22   designer showing off and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24   getting annoying how do you do the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:26   attacking gesture if without animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:28   that's what I'm stuck on like if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:30   do not change the way you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:33   multitasking switcher how do you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7053">TS</a>]

01:57:37   with no animations because like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:40   do the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7060">TS</a>]

01:57:41   quick swipe up from the bottom and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7061">TS</a>]

01:57:43   cross straight to the home screen or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:44   just bring the home screen up right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:46   a slow swipe up from the bottom bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:48   you into multitasking like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:51   maybe though it would feel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:52   disconnected like what I get what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7072">TS</a>]

01:57:54   saying about the animations going too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:55   far and again if someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7075">TS</a>]

01:57:56   run-throughs motion all the time I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58   NOT a fan of animation but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7078">TS</a>]

01:58:00   surprised by how much I liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:02   animations in the 10 because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:04   connected to things my fingers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7084">TS</a>]

01:58:06   doing and like Twitter if ik and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:07   other applications where they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7087">TS</a>]

01:58:09   make the animation track your finger I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:11   don't know if the iOS 11 ones are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:13   that on the iPhone 10 but they feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:15   they're tracking your finger and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17   feels good that it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:19   you're a triggering animation it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7099">TS</a>]

01:58:21   like you are moving things on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7101">TS</a>]

01:58:23   which is a big kind of like sideswipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:25   going from screens and like home screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:26   on springboard right the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:28   feels so good is you you don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7108">TS</a>]

01:58:30   you are triggering the slide in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7110">TS</a>]

01:58:31   animation you feel like you're moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7111">TS</a>]

01:58:34   the screen you feel like you're moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:36   the icons with your finger and it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7116">TS</a>]

01:58:38   a big difference and so I'm actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:40   pretty big fan of the animations maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7120">TS</a>]

01:58:43   wouldn't be if I didn't have a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:44   backer and I had seen that slamming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7124">TS</a>]

01:58:45   I think I would still prefer reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:47   motion if implemented like it is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7127">TS</a>]

01:58:50   7 and earlier phones where it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7130">TS</a>]

01:58:52   know like you really are treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7132">TS</a>]

01:58:54   animations and they're all crossfades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:55   but I think there's something to be said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:58   for a UI that is so fundamentally based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7138">TS</a>]

01:59:02   on swipey crap having that's my crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:06   make you feel like you're moving things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:09   on the screen rather than triggering an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:11   animation I've still prefer no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7151">TS</a>]

01:59:13   animations at all but I honestly I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7153">TS</a>]

01:59:14   with this many swipes I don't know how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7154">TS</a>]

01:59:15   don't know how you pull it off and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:17   make you feel like disconnected from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7157">TS</a>]

01:59:20   know like that you are just drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:22   magic spells and hieroglyphics on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:24   screen and your magic incantations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:26   caused things to change but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:27   real connection between them like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:29   magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:29   yeah and I don't think it has to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:31   I don't think it has to be dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:32   like no animations ever again like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:35   just think the animations need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:36   toned down you know we've gone too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:38   they need to be brought back a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:41   bit you know that and and not totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7181">TS</a>]

01:59:43   removed like so many of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:44   like whole new tasks and everything yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7184">TS</a>]

01:59:46   they should be animated like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:48   most of the things that are animated now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7188">TS</a>]

01:59:50   should still be animated it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:52   question of what that animation is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:54   how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7194">TS</a>]

01:59:55   things are happening when it happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57   how long does it take these things could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:59   all use some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7199">TS</a>]

01:59:59   all use some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7199">TS</a>]

02:00:00   tweaking I think you know so and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01   some restraint yeah the homescreen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:03   probably the best example because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7203">TS</a>]

02:00:04   you want to happen is I want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:06   the home screen but you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:07   see the home screen assemble itself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:10   you know like like a deconstructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7210">TS</a>]

02:00:12   sandwich a fruit from the restroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:13   assembling itself right like here comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:15   the background and now the icons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7215">TS</a>]

02:00:17   falling onto it and like it's assembling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:19   like I know what springboard looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7219">TS</a>]

02:00:21   just just show me that as if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:22   already constructed not as if every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24   I go back to the home screen is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:25   rebuilt from its component pieces like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7225">TS</a>]

02:00:27   weird CG transformer animation so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7227">TS</a>]

02:00:30   probably too far yeah alright so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7230">TS</a>]

02:00:33   get back on track and finish up our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7233">TS</a>]

02:00:35   iPhone 10 review case you have any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:40   any other I have kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7240">TS</a>]

02:00:42   miscellaneous section here do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7242">TS</a>]

02:00:43   anything else to add I will just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:47   that I haven't had a lot of time using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:52   my phone regularly because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:54   traveling and when I'm traveling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7254">TS</a>]

02:00:55   always have a lot more battery range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7255">TS</a>]

02:00:58   exotic animal II do because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7258">TS</a>]

02:01:00   oftentimes less convenient for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7260">TS</a>]

02:01:03   charge and oftentimes I'm out in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7263">TS</a>]

02:01:06   from you know my normal day-to-day life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7266">TS</a>]

02:01:08   when I'm traveling obviously and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7268">TS</a>]

02:01:09   using my phone more so for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:11   reasons I get real battery anxiety when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:14   I'm traveling and maybe this is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7274">TS</a>]

02:01:17   what I'm about to say is just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7277">TS</a>]

02:01:19   anxiety manifesting itself but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:21   like on both r7s and on the tens battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7281">TS</a>]

02:01:25   life in iOS 11 a is still not great it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7285">TS</a>]

02:01:29   gotten better with 11:1 but it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7289">TS</a>]

02:01:31   just not great and that kind of that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:33   frustrating but as a quick summary of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:37   thoughts I really do like this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:39   quite a bit and that screen is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:41   clearly the future it is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:44   great and I really and I overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:46   obviously have complaints nothing is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:48   perfect did you know guys that it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7308">TS</a>]

02:01:49   be complained about but it is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7309">TS</a>]

02:01:52   great phone so with that in mind Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7312">TS</a>]

02:01:53   tell me your miscellaneous section so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7313">TS</a>]

02:01:55   first of all on the battery my theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:58   with iOS 11 I think one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7318">TS</a>]

02:02:01   reasons why people are seeing such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7321">TS</a>]

02:02:03   reduced battery life on such a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:06   scale is that iOS 11 allows photos to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7326">TS</a>]

02:02:10   uploaded to iCloud when you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:12   plugged in and when you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:13   five and by default I'm pretty sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7333">TS</a>]

02:02:16   last cellular data usage and also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:18   plugged in usage whereas before it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7338">TS</a>]

02:02:21   wait until the phone was charging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7341">TS</a>]

02:02:23   I'm Wi-Fi to do any kind of uploads so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7343">TS</a>]

02:02:25   if you're shooting pictures which most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7345">TS</a>]

02:02:27   people do all the time now your battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7347">TS</a>]

02:02:30   life should be probably significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7350">TS</a>]

02:02:31   worse also encoding HEAF and a CVC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:34   are more processor-intensive so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7354">TS</a>]

02:02:37   like the combination of the iCloud photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7357">TS</a>]

02:02:40   uploads not being restricted by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7360">TS</a>]

02:02:42   anymore to a high power state and Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7362">TS</a>]

02:02:45   and also the complexity of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7365">TS</a>]

02:02:47   formats I think that explains a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7367">TS</a>]

02:02:50   the worst battery life people are seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7370">TS</a>]

02:02:52   in reality with iOS 11 anyway so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:55   just that's my theory check the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7375">TS</a>]

02:02:57   though for photo uploads if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7377">TS</a>]

02:02:59   conserve some more power as for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7379">TS</a>]

02:03:02   battery life on the 10 it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7382">TS</a>]

02:03:04   little soon to tell for sure but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:08   seems like it is overall fairly similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:11   to the battery life on my iPhone 7 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7391">TS</a>]

02:03:14   doesn't seem like it's dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7394">TS</a>]

02:03:16   better I kind of expected going to OLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7396">TS</a>]

02:03:19   to bring more gain in that department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:21   maybe we'll see over time as as apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7401">TS</a>]

02:03:24   the OS maybe get darker with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7404">TS</a>]

02:03:26   themes overall cuz one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7406">TS</a>]

02:03:28   though LED is when it's showing dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:29   content it's using less power than when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7409">TS</a>]

02:03:30   it's showing light content unlike LCDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7410">TS</a>]

02:03:32   so maybe it'll get better over time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7412">TS</a>]

02:03:36   I did kind of expect OLED to bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:38   bigger jump in battery life than what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7418">TS</a>]

02:03:40   actually got here so oh well anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7420">TS</a>]

02:03:43   better life seems fine but not amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:46   sure it's still not analyzing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7426">TS</a>]

02:03:48   photos I don't know that it probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7428">TS</a>]

02:03:50   Idina but who knows the setup experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7430">TS</a>]

02:03:55   I did want to do a quick note on this my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7435">TS</a>]

02:03:58   phone immediately needed an update to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7438">TS</a>]

02:03:59   iOS 11.1 look I thought it was fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7439">TS</a>]

02:04:03   ungraceful that's that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:04   thing that like you know anytime you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7444">TS</a>]

02:04:06   like a game console or pretty much any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:09   tech products from anybody else it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:10   doesn't usually immediately need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7450">TS</a>]

02:04:12   software update it kind of ruins the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7452">TS</a>]

02:04:14   experience a little bit and just delays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7454">TS</a>]

02:04:16   you getting things even more so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:18   that kind of sucked it you don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7458">TS</a>]

02:04:20   see it from Apple so it was noteworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:22   on the other hand though the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7462">TS</a>]

02:04:25   migration from my old iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:27   is amazing it worked perfectly in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7467">TS</a>]

02:04:30   respects except it didn't move my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7470">TS</a>]

02:04:33   now some people say the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7473">TS</a>]

02:04:35   would move for them in that process some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:37   people it wasn't it seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7477">TS</a>]

02:04:39   inconsistent but whether it works or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:40   it is seemingly supposed to do it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7480">TS</a>]

02:04:43   just doesn't seem only a good portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:44   the time but with that one exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7484">TS</a>]

02:04:47   the watch being moved this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7487">TS</a>]

02:04:49   time I have not done my tunes backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7489">TS</a>]

02:04:52   method to transfer to a new phone every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7492">TS</a>]

02:04:55   other time I've gotten a new phone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:56   backed up Ubuntu iTunes with a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7496">TS</a>]

02:04:59   encrypted backup using that checkbox so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:00   it sees my passwords restore to the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7500">TS</a>]

02:05:03   phone etc this is the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7503">TS</a>]

02:05:04   didn't do that and I and the new you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:08   know with the combination of iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:10   backups and with this new setup wizard' [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12   thing where you put the phones near each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:13   other and they detect together an offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:15   to move it over that was actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7515">TS</a>]

02:05:17   think it was faster then then an iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7517">TS</a>]

02:05:20   backup and restore would have been and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7520">TS</a>]

02:05:22   it was way less effort and in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:26   actually was a better copy of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:28   like something with iTunes it gets weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7528">TS</a>]

02:05:31   with like maybe it'll it'll backup like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:33   a bunch of old apps that you thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7533">TS</a>]

02:05:34   deleted and then put them back on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7534">TS</a>]

02:05:36   new phone and stuff like that like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7536">TS</a>]

02:05:37   is an occasional weirdness with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7537">TS</a>]

02:05:39   iTunes backups not to mention the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:40   that it takes up a giant mat of hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7540">TS</a>]

02:05:42   drive space which is a problem in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7542">TS</a>]

02:05:44   age of SSDs I think I'm gonna stop doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7544">TS</a>]

02:05:47   those like I think I'm finally gonna all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7547">TS</a>]

02:05:49   this time finally gonna join the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7549">TS</a>]

02:05:51   the world and stop doing iTunes backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7551">TS</a>]

02:05:53   because the the restore process and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7553">TS</a>]

02:05:55   phone without that was flawless you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:59   people have reported lots of problems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7559">TS</a>]

02:06:01   the past with like iCloud restores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7561">TS</a>]

02:06:03   taking way too long on iPhone day one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7563">TS</a>]

02:06:05   haven't heard that this year and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7565">TS</a>]

02:06:07   whatever problems used to plagued this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7567">TS</a>]

02:06:09   don't seem to apply anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7569">TS</a>]

02:06:10   so good job whoever did this at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7570">TS</a>]

02:06:13   this is great like the new setup process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7573">TS</a>]

02:06:16   the migration process is awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7576">TS</a>]

02:06:20   finally we'll replace iTunes backups for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:22   me it is way faster than it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7582">TS</a>]

02:06:25   and I have a lot of experience with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7585">TS</a>]

02:06:26   of them because I always do iTunes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7586">TS</a>]

02:06:27   mine but then I thought for my families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7587">TS</a>]

02:06:29   right and so it was way faster than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7589">TS</a>]

02:06:31   has been in the past for the iCloud one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7591">TS</a>]

02:06:33   it did like the iTunes back it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:35   sometimes my iCloud one was confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:37   about what apps it was restoring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:39   ended up restoring a bunch of apps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7599">TS</a>]

02:06:40   my wife had uninstalled mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7600">TS</a>]

02:06:42   we share an Apple ID for for purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7602">TS</a>]

02:06:45   even though she's got her own we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7605">TS</a>]

02:06:46   this legacy of when we only had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:47   Apple ID as many families probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7607">TS</a>]

02:06:49   and so it did the exact same thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7609">TS</a>]

02:06:52   iTunes about being confused about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7612">TS</a>]

02:06:53   she exactly she had installed for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:55   most part it worked but the watch part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7615">TS</a>]

02:06:57   it did ask about the watch but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7617">TS</a>]

02:07:00   time we were doing it in the Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7620">TS</a>]

02:07:01   it was asking about my watch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7621">TS</a>]

02:07:03   remember this is an iPhone right so I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7623">TS</a>]

02:07:06   process is all messed up like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:08   fine I'm fine that we're doing a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7628">TS</a>]

02:07:09   thing here's my complaint about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7629">TS</a>]

02:07:11   process if you don't catch it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7631">TS</a>]

02:07:13   moment I don't know how to transfer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7633">TS</a>]

02:07:17   watch without like resetting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7637">TS</a>]

02:07:18   restoring it and I feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:20   should be an easy way after the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7640">TS</a>]

02:07:22   setup process to say oh and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7642">TS</a>]

02:07:24   that at the time I did the setup I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7644">TS</a>]

02:07:26   didn't have my watch but now I've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7646">TS</a>]

02:07:29   or now everything like what I want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7649">TS</a>]

02:07:30   the thing now you've got two phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7650">TS</a>]

02:07:33   I got an old phone and a new phone take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7653">TS</a>]

02:07:35   the watch and move it from this phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7655">TS</a>]

02:07:36   that phone if there's a way to do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7656">TS</a>]

02:07:38   don't know it and so I had to do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7658">TS</a>]

02:07:40   long way and the long way is crappy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7660">TS</a>]

02:07:42   that's my only real complaint about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:44   but I'm mostly with Marco that iCloud if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7664">TS</a>]

02:07:46   you've been avoiding iCloud thinks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7666">TS</a>]

02:07:48   always doing iTune backups I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7668">TS</a>]

02:07:49   stop doing my Drance backups because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7669">TS</a>]

02:07:50   they currently go to my Synology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7670">TS</a>]

02:07:52   what the hell like I do them only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7672">TS</a>]

02:07:53   once a month anyway but I call back ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:56   and restore I've gotten way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7676">TS</a>]

02:07:57   they're way faster the way more complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7677">TS</a>]

02:07:59   there's less waiting around for apps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7679">TS</a>]

02:08:01   load themselves for like three days like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7681">TS</a>]

02:08:03   it was it was good I endorse it the well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7683">TS</a>]

02:08:06   seems to be better the I did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7686">TS</a>]

02:08:10   transfers thing that Marco did it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:12   the same story right always do I I tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7692">TS</a>]

02:08:14   backups encrypted this time I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7694">TS</a>]

02:08:17   and the two things I noticed that bummed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:18   me out are and maybe it was user error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7698">TS</a>]

02:08:20   maybe I did something wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7700">TS</a>]

02:08:22   but the two things that bum me out were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7702">TS</a>]

02:08:23   it did not keep my Wi-Fi passwords those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7703">TS</a>]

02:08:26   did not transfer again maybe I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7706">TS</a>]

02:08:29   something wrong someone I did I hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7709">TS</a>]

02:08:32   then the other thing I noticed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7712">TS</a>]

02:08:33   because i do not use iCloud photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7713">TS</a>]

02:08:35   library I only use what are the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7715">TS</a>]

02:08:38   where it's like the initial yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7718">TS</a>]

02:08:40   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:42   it seemed like it just didn't get most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7722">TS</a>]

02:08:46   of the pictures off of my old phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7726">TS</a>]

02:08:47   which is fine because I can just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:50   them in the in our you know main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:51   repository but where and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7731">TS</a>]

02:08:54   toons backup seems to have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7734">TS</a>]

02:08:57   included the pictures which is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7737">TS</a>]

02:08:59   part of the reason why it takes forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:01   to finish it it did not seem to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:06   with this like transfer migration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:10   assistant kind of thing though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7750">TS</a>]

02:09:13   apparently it's iCloud keychain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:14   according to the chat room does Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7754">TS</a>]

02:09:18   yeah see I do not but it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7758">TS</a>]

02:09:20   the thing that like when it first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7760">TS</a>]

02:09:22   out was a complete mess and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7762">TS</a>]

02:09:24   shouldn't have used it when it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7764">TS</a>]

02:09:25   came out but then they've been improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7765">TS</a>]

02:09:26   it over time and now the combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7766">TS</a>]

02:09:28   iCloud backups plus iCloud keychain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7768">TS</a>]

02:09:31   means that you basically have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7771">TS</a>]

02:09:33   benefit that you had before with iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:35   encrypted backups now you have it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7775">TS</a>]

02:09:38   iCloud backups in the cloud if you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:40   both of these things and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7780">TS</a>]

02:09:42   experience they've been flawless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:43   been great I know some people have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7783">TS</a>]

02:09:45   complaint about iCloud keychain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7785">TS</a>]

02:09:47   maybe it has been inconsistent but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7787">TS</a>]

02:09:49   been using it since they won and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:50   always thought it has more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7790">TS</a>]

02:09:52   fulfilled the purpose is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7792">TS</a>]

02:09:54   fulfill like I've never regretted using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7794">TS</a>]

02:09:57   iCloud keychain worst case maybe I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7797">TS</a>]

02:09:59   feel like oh that should have been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7799">TS</a>]

02:10:01   iCloud keychain but it wasn't there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:03   that's not like if the 9,000 other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7803">TS</a>]

02:10:05   passwords are there then I'm good with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7805">TS</a>]

02:10:08   occasionally like it's it's like a 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7808">TS</a>]

02:10:10   level security to get iCloud backup on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7810">TS</a>]

02:10:12   two things was is occasionally annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:14   and I think it used to be more annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7814">TS</a>]

02:10:15   than it is now but I heartily endorse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7815">TS</a>]

02:10:18   endorse iCloud keychain I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7818">TS</a>]

02:10:20   realize that's the magic that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7820">TS</a>]

02:10:21   bringing me the nice backup and restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7821">TS</a>]

02:10:24   just because I've always been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7824">TS</a>]

02:10:25   but now now that I know that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:27   I even more endorse like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:29   definitely use this because who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7829">TS</a>]

02:10:31   do a restore and then have to like re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7831">TS</a>]

02:10:34   sign-in to all your crap and lose all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:36   your saved website passwords and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7836">TS</a>]

02:10:37   that list often as far as I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7837">TS</a>]

02:10:39   with all the annoying hurdles that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7839">TS</a>]

02:10:41   makes me jump over iCloud keychain seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7841">TS</a>]

02:10:42   reasonably secure the only thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7842">TS</a>]

02:10:45   that I did not like about the migration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7845">TS</a>]

02:10:47   process which I think was not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:49   part of migration process is that all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7849">TS</a>]

02:10:52   my settings and everything were carried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7852">TS</a>]

02:10:54   over except one the screen auto lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7854">TS</a>]

02:10:58   duration on the iPhone 10 my screen auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:02   lock which I believe I had set to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7862">TS</a>]

02:11:04   minutes which I think is the longest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7864">TS</a>]

02:11:05   can go without it being never the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:07   auto lock was reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:08   to the minimum of 30 seconds this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7868">TS</a>]

02:11:12   intentional because this has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7872">TS</a>]

02:11:14   happened with any other migration I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:16   done and let me tell you using an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7876">TS</a>]

02:11:20   with a 30 second auto lock sucks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7880">TS</a>]

02:11:24   really really annoying you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7884">TS</a>]

02:11:25   it's part of the new attention thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:27   like feature not bug with like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:30   want everyone to experience our cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7890">TS</a>]

02:11:31   attention thing which is basically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:34   the screen will dim very aggressively to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:37   save your battery unless it notices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7897">TS</a>]

02:11:39   you're looking at it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7899">TS</a>]

02:11:41   experience they're going for like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7901">TS</a>]

02:11:42   we'll save your battery life but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7902">TS</a>]

02:11:44   will be less annoying in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7904">TS</a>]

02:11:46   if you're using your Chrome we won't dim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7906">TS</a>]

02:11:47   it because we could tell you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:48   at us because we have the face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:50   attention you know api's and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7910">TS</a>]

02:11:51   other stuff so that's what they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7911">TS</a>]

02:11:53   for and that's probably why they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:55   if this is not a bug assuming it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7915">TS</a>]

02:11:57   bug why they would do this on purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7917">TS</a>]

02:11:59   they want you to experience all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7919">TS</a>]

02:12:00   attention stuff but this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7920">TS</a>]

02:12:01   example of where people have to adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7921">TS</a>]

02:12:03   their body postures because now people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:05   are complaining I put my phone flat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7925">TS</a>]

02:12:06   the table and I like to glance at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7926">TS</a>]

02:12:09   then I look away for three seconds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7929">TS</a>]

02:12:11   I look back and it's already dim the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:12   screen like wait a second I was just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7932">TS</a>]

02:12:14   was just using you normally my iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:16   because of my strict timeout would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:18   I'm gonna leave my phone on at full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7938">TS</a>]

02:12:19   brightness for X amount of time so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7939">TS</a>]

02:12:21   can look away you know go do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7941">TS</a>]

02:12:23   else go eat a piece of food then look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7943">TS</a>]

02:12:24   back in your screen you'll still be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7944">TS</a>]

02:12:25   but the iPhone 10 it's like aha I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7945">TS</a>]

02:12:27   tell you're not looking at me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:28   I'm gonna dim my screen to same power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7948">TS</a>]

02:12:30   and that's annoying people so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7950">TS</a>]

02:12:31   these are all things they can either fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7951">TS</a>]

02:12:33   with software or that apparently we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7953">TS</a>]

02:12:35   all fix by changing how we use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:37   phones I mean it was pretty clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7957">TS</a>]

02:12:39   choice to reset people's defaults to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:41   this new value and you can go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:44   change it but the default does appear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7964">TS</a>]

02:12:45   be the lowest which is thirty seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7965">TS</a>]

02:12:47   and you know this is one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:50   where like you know I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7970">TS</a>]

02:12:51   partly right it is nice that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:52   they can tell whether you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:53   it and they can dim it as a result or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7973">TS</a>]

02:12:54   not dim it as a result but there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7974">TS</a>]

02:12:57   like I this was one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7977">TS</a>]

02:13:00   biggest things that annoyed me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7980">TS</a>]

02:13:02   this and at first I'm like you know let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7982">TS</a>]

02:13:03   me let me just live with this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7983">TS</a>]

02:13:05   the problem is like you know you're then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7985">TS</a>]

02:13:08   relying on unlocking the phone a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7988">TS</a>]

02:13:10   more often so you're then you're then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7990">TS</a>]

02:13:12   you're relying on face ID being really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7992">TS</a>]

02:13:14   super fast which it isn't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7994">TS</a>]

02:13:15   moderately fast but it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7995">TS</a>]

02:13:17   super fast and so I feel like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/7997">TS</a>]

02:13:20   emphasizes one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8000">TS</a>]

02:13:22   the phones flaws which is the face video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8002">TS</a>]

02:13:23   is slower than touch ID version two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:25   so like they and it seems like they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:29   this as a not-so-subtle trick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8009">TS</a>]

02:13:32   increase battery life in practice or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8012">TS</a>]

02:13:35   reduce OLED burnin which is potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8015">TS</a>]

02:13:38   a big problem down the road I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8018">TS</a>]

02:13:40   it feels like kind of a cheap move to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8020">TS</a>]

02:13:41   like it feels like kind of like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8021">TS</a>]

02:13:43   unfair trick you know and if it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8023">TS</a>]

02:13:45   fine but I found in my first day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:48   leaving it that way before I got a note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8028">TS</a>]

02:13:50   I just went any change the setting back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8030">TS</a>]

02:13:51   to five minutes I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8031">TS</a>]

02:13:53   ridiculously annoying and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8033">TS</a>]

02:13:56   it's a bad default I think it's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8036">TS</a>]

02:13:58   it's a bad assumption or a bad trick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8038">TS</a>]

02:14:01   they should not be changing people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8041">TS</a>]

02:14:03   settings on on migrations for this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8043">TS</a>]

02:14:06   fairly critical part of the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8046">TS</a>]

02:14:08   system behaves you know one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8048">TS</a>]

02:14:10   found that was that made it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8050">TS</a>]

02:14:11   annoying is like you know I would unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8051">TS</a>]

02:14:13   the phone and then maybe I would set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8053">TS</a>]

02:14:15   down on a desk or the counter for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8055">TS</a>]

02:14:19   seconds and then I want to go back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8059">TS</a>]

02:14:20   and pick it back up again and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8060">TS</a>]

02:14:23   maybe he's playing a podcast and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8063">TS</a>]

02:14:24   the controls to still be on screen for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8064">TS</a>]

02:14:26   minute while I go do something with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8066">TS</a>]

02:14:27   hand and then go pick it back up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8067">TS</a>]

02:14:29   like it was very frequently turning off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8069">TS</a>]

02:14:32   when I was not ready for that to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8072">TS</a>]

02:14:34   yeah so kind of give him a pass on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:36   changing the defaults like I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8076">TS</a>]

02:14:38   the reasons and I feel like if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8078">TS</a>]

02:14:39   some new feature of your phone like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8079">TS</a>]

02:14:41   we have a way to tell whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8081">TS</a>]

02:14:42   looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8082">TS</a>]

02:14:43   and people won't see it because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8083">TS</a>]

02:14:45   defaults will be configured for phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8085">TS</a>]

02:14:46   without that feature the only way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8086">TS</a>]

02:14:48   gonna get people to give that feature a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8088">TS</a>]

02:14:50   chance is by changing their defaults it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8090">TS</a>]

02:14:52   could be considered a little bit user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8092">TS</a>]

02:14:53   hostile for power users but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8093">TS</a>]

02:14:55   everybody else there's no way they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8095">TS</a>]

02:14:56   even notice that of a feature now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8096">TS</a>]

02:14:58   that other feature worked the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8098">TS</a>]

02:15:00   dreamed it did like the best of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8100">TS</a>]

02:15:02   worlds it will never dim while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8102">TS</a>]

02:15:03   looking at it but it will dim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8103">TS</a>]

02:15:04   immediately when you're not looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8104">TS</a>]

02:15:05   it then it would have been a win but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8105">TS</a>]

02:15:07   sounds like there's still a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8107">TS</a>]

02:15:10   bumps in the road and it also sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8110">TS</a>]

02:15:11   like this is an aspect of your life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8111">TS</a>]

02:15:13   me and probably also Casey where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8113">TS</a>]

02:15:15   all still using stick shifts and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8115">TS</a>]

02:15:16   the reason you can get away with a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8116">TS</a>]

02:15:17   minute timeout is because you put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8117">TS</a>]

02:15:19   phone to sleep when you know you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8119">TS</a>]

02:15:20   using it right like you're manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8120">TS</a>]

02:15:22   shifting you'd be like okay I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8122">TS</a>]

02:15:24   gonna glance at you anymore and you hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8124">TS</a>]

02:15:25   the side button and it goes to sleep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8125">TS</a>]

02:15:27   know I do that I manually put my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8127">TS</a>]

02:15:29   out is very long and I don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8129">TS</a>]

02:15:31   battery life because I control when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8131">TS</a>]

02:15:33   know if I am I gonna look back at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8133">TS</a>]

02:15:34   phone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8134">TS</a>]

02:15:35   am I done with it for now so I turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8135">TS</a>]

02:15:37   the screen off essentially yeah alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8137">TS</a>]

02:15:39   maybe but anyway I found that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8139">TS</a>]

02:15:42   annoying default and I was extra annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8142">TS</a>]

02:15:45   that it overrode my previous setting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8145">TS</a>]

02:15:47   so yeah I think that's it I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8147">TS</a>]

02:15:50   a bad move or a bad trick and I wish I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8150">TS</a>]

02:15:52   changed it but otherwise yeah otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8152">TS</a>]

02:15:55   I'm really enjoying this phone and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8155">TS</a>]

02:15:58   know I once I once I change that setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8158">TS</a>]

02:15:59   they help a lot on that front yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8159">TS</a>]

02:16:02   really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8162">TS</a>]

02:16:02   it is certainly taking time to get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8162">TS</a>]

02:16:05   to in the way that you know as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8165">TS</a>]

02:16:08   mentioned earlier how at the top area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8168">TS</a>]

02:16:09   the screen is so hard to reach for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8169">TS</a>]

02:16:12   like holding it one-handed I am still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8172">TS</a>]

02:16:14   doing the the support pinkie on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8174">TS</a>]

02:16:16   bottoms basically holding the phone by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8176">TS</a>]

02:16:18   the bottom half which means that and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8178">TS</a>]

02:16:21   my left hand which means I can use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8181">TS</a>]

02:16:23   thumb of my left hand to just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8183">TS</a>]

02:16:25   reach the upper left ear next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8185">TS</a>]

02:16:28   status bar but I can't reach the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8188">TS</a>]

02:16:29   right of a screen anymore so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8189">TS</a>]

02:16:32   little bit annoying and I and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8192">TS</a>]

02:16:35   like this is gonna be an area I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8195">TS</a>]

02:16:36   touch with us on under the radar this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8196">TS</a>]

02:16:38   week I feel like iOS has to now adopt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8198">TS</a>]

02:16:42   a new reality that's actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8202">TS</a>]

02:16:44   building over the last couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8204">TS</a>]

02:16:46   since we've had the plus phones where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8206">TS</a>]

02:16:48   lot of people can't reach the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8208">TS</a>]

02:16:51   screen very easily anymore so iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8211">TS</a>]

02:16:55   think has - and the built-in system apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8215">TS</a>]

02:16:57   and many other apps have to reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8217">TS</a>]

02:17:00   dependence on putting frequently used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8220">TS</a>]

02:17:02   buttons and things at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8222">TS</a>]

02:17:04   screen and this is some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8224">TS</a>]

02:17:07   fundamental iOS stuff that would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8227">TS</a>]

02:17:09   will have to change the result of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8229">TS</a>]

02:17:10   like navigation bars or edit buttons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8230">TS</a>]

02:17:13   done buttons or cancel buttons that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8233">TS</a>]

02:17:15   up in the top bar is like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8235">TS</a>]

02:17:17   pretty common design pattern asset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8237">TS</a>]

02:17:19   hamburger buttons in the upper left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8239">TS</a>]

02:17:20   corner like stuff like that like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8240">TS</a>]

02:17:22   gonna be a major shift that all apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8242">TS</a>]

02:17:26   the OS now have to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8246">TS</a>]

02:17:29   iOS 11 kind of half design itself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8249">TS</a>]

02:17:32   this bike having those giant navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8252">TS</a>]

02:17:34   bar titles that push the first row of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8254">TS</a>]

02:17:36   content down I see why they did that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8256">TS</a>]

02:17:39   that that makes sense now I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8259">TS</a>]

02:17:41   it looks very good but it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8261">TS</a>]

02:17:42   and it works well even though doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8262">TS</a>]

02:17:44   look great it does work better on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8264">TS</a>]

02:17:46   iPhone 10 to have the content pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8266">TS</a>]

02:17:48   down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8268">TS</a>]

02:17:49   for that first row to be more accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8269">TS</a>]

02:17:50   to your thumb but they have to do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8270">TS</a>]

02:17:53   more and so I feel like iOS 11 is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8273">TS</a>]

02:17:56   you know a baby step towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8276">TS</a>]

02:17:58   accommodating the new reality of larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8278">TS</a>]

02:18:01   screen phones where we can't reach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8281">TS</a>]

02:18:03   top and bottom as easily as we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8283">TS</a>]

02:18:04   and this is and I hope that iOS 12 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:09   beyond go further in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8289">TS</a>]

02:18:11   because they need to so the big text at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8291">TS</a>]

02:18:14   the top I don't mind that looks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8294">TS</a>]

02:18:17   much and you right it makes much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8297">TS</a>]

02:18:18   sense in the context of taller phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8298">TS</a>]

02:18:20   like this but one thing I noticed when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8300">TS</a>]

02:18:22   was in the Apple Store hanging around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8302">TS</a>]

02:18:24   waiting to pick up the phone and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8304">TS</a>]

02:18:26   at all the iPhone tens is two things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8306">TS</a>]

02:18:30   I was surprised at how many of them had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8310">TS</a>]

02:18:32   none default text size and I wondered if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8312">TS</a>]

02:18:34   Apple had set that up or if people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8314">TS</a>]

02:18:36   messing with the phones to set it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8316">TS</a>]

02:18:37   like the whatever the setting is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8317">TS</a>]

02:18:39   like large texts and stuff an office is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8319">TS</a>]

02:18:41   an accessibility or if it's the the zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8321">TS</a>]

02:18:43   or whatever like and picking one up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8323">TS</a>]

02:18:46   like that I was like oh this I phone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8326">TS</a>]

02:18:49   is something looks weird about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8329">TS</a>]

02:18:50   screen like all the letters are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8330">TS</a>]

02:18:51   big I'm like oh someone just changed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8331">TS</a>]

02:18:53   to be non-default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8333">TS</a>]

02:18:54   alright but even on the ones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8334">TS</a>]

02:18:56   in standard size cuz then then I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8336">TS</a>]

02:18:58   like I would change the size to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8338">TS</a>]

02:19:00   standard or what I thought was standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8340">TS</a>]

02:19:01   and I'd be like huh the text that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8341">TS</a>]

02:19:03   kind of bigger here too and I might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8343">TS</a>]

02:19:04   just been fooled by the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8344">TS</a>]

02:19:06   screen is bigger and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8346">TS</a>]

02:19:08   applications I was using were all Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8348">TS</a>]

02:19:09   apps that had the big chunky thing on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8349">TS</a>]

02:19:11   and I think in general making text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8351">TS</a>]

02:19:15   bigger and more legible on larger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8355">TS</a>]

02:19:18   phones is a smart move because while we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8358">TS</a>]

02:19:20   may want bigger screens to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8360">TS</a>]

02:19:22   screen real estate as we get older and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8362">TS</a>]

02:19:24   as we get more KC like bigger text on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8364">TS</a>]

02:19:31   bigger phone it becomes really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8371">TS</a>]

02:19:36   like the whole reason you want a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8376">TS</a>]

02:19:38   phone is not so you can see more Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8378">TS</a>]

02:19:40   so that the text on the phone can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8380">TS</a>]

02:19:42   bigger and bolder and easier to pick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8382">TS</a>]

02:19:44   and moving the OS in the direction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8384">TS</a>]

02:19:48   having more bigger bolder text I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8388">TS</a>]

02:19:49   you not like even in the regular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8389">TS</a>]

02:19:51   that bold big bold Texas hop is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8391">TS</a>]

02:19:53   big it just makes it a lot more clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8393">TS</a>]

02:19:56   than it used to be where the heck are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8396">TS</a>]

02:19:58   you and what are you looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8398">TS</a>]

02:20:00   and so I mostly endorse that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8400">TS</a>]

02:20:03   even if aesthetically it sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8403">TS</a>]

02:20:05   seems a little bit jarring just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8405">TS</a>]

02:20:07   maybe is because I'm getting older but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8407">TS</a>]

02:20:09   like I like the idea of not being you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8409">TS</a>]

02:20:12   know it's it's a continued continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8412">TS</a>]

02:20:14   move on like the spectrum from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8414">TS</a>]

02:20:15   incredibly precious ios7 that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8415">TS</a>]

02:20:18   slowly gradually be moving away from to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8418">TS</a>]

02:20:20   become like a more practical OS that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8420">TS</a>]

02:20:24   more usable for actual people and but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8424">TS</a>]

02:20:27   looks less good if you were to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8427">TS</a>]

02:20:28   print it on a poster and treat it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8428">TS</a>]

02:20:30   like a beautiful you know typographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8430">TS</a>]

02:20:32   display of prowess and elegance but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8432">TS</a>]

02:20:35   you just have to read the text I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8435">TS</a>]

02:20:37   prefer the chunkiness that we've got now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8437">TS</a>]

02:20:39   we've spent a lot of time talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8439">TS</a>]

02:20:41   the kind of gotchas and not oopss but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8441">TS</a>]

02:20:45   you know the the things that I I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8445">TS</a>]

02:20:48   heard a whole lot about so it sounds way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8448">TS</a>]

02:20:51   more negative or at least I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8451">TS</a>]

02:20:53   sound way more negative than I intend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8453">TS</a>]

02:20:55   this phone is tremendous and if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8455">TS</a>]

02:20:58   the means I highly suggest picking one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8458">TS</a>]

02:21:00   up and that's a reference strong do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8460">TS</a>]

02:21:03   think he blew the quotes slightly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8463">TS</a>]

02:21:05   I couldn't exactly correct you so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8465">TS</a>]

02:21:07   so my impression again is is not my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8467">TS</a>]

02:21:10   phone I'm of two minds about it one all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8470">TS</a>]

02:21:14   the things that I just talked about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8474">TS</a>]

02:21:15   complained about on the one hand make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8475">TS</a>]

02:21:18   feel like I'm kind of I'm kind of okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8478">TS</a>]

02:21:21   with waiting out this gen and seeing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8481">TS</a>]

02:21:23   things shake out for the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8483">TS</a>]

02:21:24   because this changes a lot of stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8484">TS</a>]

02:21:27   you know like sort of comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8487">TS</a>]

02:21:28   iphone7 like it works great I love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8488">TS</a>]

02:21:31   iPhone 7 I'm very comfortable with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8491">TS</a>]

02:21:33   don't have to change any of my habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8493">TS</a>]

02:21:34   same thing using it but on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8494">TS</a>]

02:21:36   hand the iPhone 10 is like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8496">TS</a>]

02:21:40   interesting and exciting new piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8500">TS</a>]

02:21:41   technology I've had in a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8501">TS</a>]

02:21:44   just because from a tech nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8504">TS</a>]

02:21:45   perspective it's so fascinating what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8505">TS</a>]

02:21:48   it's doing with all its different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8508">TS</a>]

02:21:49   sensors even silly things like an emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8509">TS</a>]

02:21:51   that we still haven't talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8511">TS</a>]

02:21:53   and all the other third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8513">TS</a>]

02:21:54   applications that are using it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8514">TS</a>]

02:21:55   face ID and and the dual cameras and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8515">TS</a>]

02:21:57   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8517">TS</a>]

02:21:58   it's an exciting tech gadget if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8518">TS</a>]

02:22:00   into tech gadgets I would highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8520">TS</a>]

02:22:03   recommend the iPhone 10 even if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8523">TS</a>]

02:22:04   quote-unquote a worse phone for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8524">TS</a>]

02:22:06   because you have to retrain your habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8526">TS</a>]

02:22:07   or whatever it is it's it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8527">TS</a>]

02:22:10   and exciting in a way that iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8530">TS</a>]

02:22:12   haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8532">TS</a>]

02:22:13   long time trying to think of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8533">TS</a>]

02:22:14   most recent one was maybe the iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8534">TS</a>]

02:22:16   when I went in retina and made me free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8536">TS</a>]

02:22:18   for me personally like the the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8538">TS</a>]

02:22:21   9.7 which was this little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8541">TS</a>]

02:22:24   packed in power house but this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8544">TS</a>]

02:22:26   is the most exciting iOS device in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8546">TS</a>]

02:22:28   really a long time if you are a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8548">TS</a>]

02:22:30   nerd which everyone might not be so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8550">TS</a>]

02:22:32   you're on the fence about this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8552">TS</a>]

02:22:35   and you haven't like tried it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8555">TS</a>]

02:22:36   want to just kind of judge it will force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8556">TS</a>]

02:22:39   you to change some habits and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8559">TS</a>]

02:22:40   will be different and weird but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8560">TS</a>]

02:22:42   really cool and exciting and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8562">TS</a>]

02:22:45   you'll have fun playing with it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8565">TS</a>]

02:22:46   you're the kind of person who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8566">TS</a>]

02:22:49   really appreciates tech for tech sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8569">TS</a>]

02:22:50   and I think in the end this is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8570">TS</a>]

02:22:54   very good phone I will let my wife be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8574">TS</a>]

02:22:56   the arbiter of that because she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8576">TS</a>]

02:22:58   one using it everyday but I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8578">TS</a>]

02:23:01   sure she's not gonna say forget this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8581">TS</a>]

02:23:03   go for an eight plus but you know I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8583">TS</a>]

02:23:05   give you I'll give you weekly updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8585">TS</a>]

02:23:06   for a little while just to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8586">TS</a>]

02:23:08   what she's thinking of it because she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8588">TS</a>]

02:23:10   not she is not one who's like oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8590">TS</a>]

02:23:13   just excited about technology she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8593">TS</a>]

02:23:15   excited about technology at all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8595">TS</a>]

02:23:17   she is a good test for I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8597">TS</a>]

02:23:19   about tech stuff is this a good phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8599">TS</a>]

02:23:21   not and she really liked her success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8601">TS</a>]

02:23:24   plus other than it getting slow so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8604">TS</a>]

02:23:26   think she's a good test case so more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8606">TS</a>]

02:23:28   come on this really quickly what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8608">TS</a>]

02:23:31   saying about the iPhone 10 being just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8611">TS</a>]

02:23:34   cool gadget I think the the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8614">TS</a>]

02:23:37   unconnected had some really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8617">TS</a>]

02:23:39   thoughts on this and and I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8619">TS</a>]

02:23:41   mostly Mike that was saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8621">TS</a>]

02:23:43   this is the first time in several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8623">TS</a>]

02:23:45   that I've that that I've been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8625">TS</a>]

02:23:47   really really amped and excited to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8627">TS</a>]

02:23:51   new phone in a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8631">TS</a>]

02:23:52   we're always amped and excited you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8632">TS</a>]

02:23:54   what I mean like this is the first you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8634">TS</a>]

02:23:55   know new hardware where people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8635">TS</a>]

02:23:57   saying oh this is the new thing oh is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8637">TS</a>]

02:24:01   good whereas you know in past years it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8641">TS</a>]

02:24:04   was oh is that the seven I was it cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8644">TS</a>]

02:24:06   what makes it better again you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8646">TS</a>]

02:24:08   its it's not that anymore and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8648">TS</a>]

02:24:10   connect to did a really good segment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8650">TS</a>]

02:24:12   that anyway marco closing thoughts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8652">TS</a>]

02:24:15   funny thing is like again a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8655">TS</a>]

02:24:16   these interviews the Apple executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8656">TS</a>]

02:24:18   have said that like they basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8658">TS</a>]

02:24:20   that the iPhone 10 was originally was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8660">TS</a>]

02:24:22   come out next year and they moved it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8662">TS</a>]

02:24:24   a year imagine if it didn't come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8664">TS</a>]

02:24:26   this year like that like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8666">TS</a>]

02:24:28   originally scheduled imagine if all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8668">TS</a>]

02:24:30   had this year was the iPhone 8 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8670">TS</a>]

02:24:33   iPhone is a fine phone but man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8673">TS</a>]

02:24:37   would have been boring that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8677">TS</a>]

02:24:38   been a really really boring year and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8678">TS</a>]

02:24:42   I'm really glad but yeah ultimately with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8682">TS</a>]

02:24:47   a lot of Apple progress in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8687">TS</a>]

02:24:51   it seems like it seems like we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8691">TS</a>]

02:24:54   take like unqualified progress anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8694">TS</a>]

02:24:56   it seems like every advancement comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8696">TS</a>]

02:25:00   with significant downsides or KC already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8700">TS</a>]

02:25:04   said that you're trying to say nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8704">TS</a>]

02:25:06   is so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8706">TS</a>]

02:25:09   well I'm sure someone invented it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8709">TS</a>]

02:25:11   probably not you anyway no like so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8711">TS</a>]

02:25:17   we've had to like you know swallow a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8717">TS</a>]

02:25:20   bitter pill to to get the new stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8720">TS</a>]

02:25:22   there's been some massive downside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8722">TS</a>]

02:25:24   this still is the case with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8724">TS</a>]

02:25:26   apples product lines the laptops but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8726">TS</a>]

02:25:28   with this phone I really thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8728">TS</a>]

02:25:30   would be the case I really thought there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8730">TS</a>]

02:25:32   would be much bigger downsides like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8732">TS</a>]

02:25:34   really thought that face ID would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8734">TS</a>]

02:25:37   know more more limited or would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8737">TS</a>]

02:25:40   more gacho's or more places where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8740">TS</a>]

02:25:42   wouldn't work right I really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8742">TS</a>]

02:25:44   that losing the home button or accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8744">TS</a>]

02:25:46   the notch would be worse and it mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8746">TS</a>]

02:25:51   isn't most like there there isn't much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8751">TS</a>]

02:25:53   downside of this with the with the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8753">TS</a>]

02:25:54   large exception of cost that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8754">TS</a>]

02:25:57   big one but with the exception of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8757">TS</a>]

02:25:59   which is often an Apple thing you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8759">TS</a>]

02:26:01   to accept we got a really really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8761">TS</a>]

02:26:05   and notably new as you said like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8765">TS</a>]

02:26:08   phone really something new here without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8768">TS</a>]

02:26:12   significant downsides and that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8772">TS</a>]

02:26:15   awesome and and most of the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8775">TS</a>]

02:26:18   annoyances that I have with it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8778">TS</a>]

02:26:20   really small and or things that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8780">TS</a>]

02:26:23   could be pretty easily fixed with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8783">TS</a>]

02:26:26   some software updates or or redesigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8786">TS</a>]

02:26:29   some of the software aspects of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8789">TS</a>]

02:26:32   overall I'm really happy with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8792">TS</a>]

02:26:34   it's not like totally perfect but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8794">TS</a>]

02:26:37   pretty great yeah I mean I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8797">TS</a>]

02:26:40   we are not the first to say it and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8800">TS</a>]

02:26:42   is not the first time we've said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8802">TS</a>]

02:26:43   tonight but it really does feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8803">TS</a>]

02:26:44   phone of the future it really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8804">TS</a>]

02:26:46   does and that's awesome and the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8806">TS</a>]

02:26:48   thing is it's the phone of the present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8808">TS</a>]

02:26:51   thanks Parker Squarespace and fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8811">TS</a>]

02:26:55   we'll see you next week ey el asesor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8815">TS</a>]

02:27:34   that's Casey Liz ma RC o AR m auntie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8854">TS</a>]

02:27:39   Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8859">TS</a>]

02:27:41   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8861">TS</a>]

02:27:58   so I have a brief story to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8878">TS</a>]

02:28:01   on the way to San Francisco yeah and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8881">TS</a>]

02:28:06   the way back actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8886">TS</a>]

02:28:07   but each direction I spent time going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8887">TS</a>]

02:28:11   through the just tremendous amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8891">TS</a>]

02:28:15   footage I took of the Alfa Romeo because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8895">TS</a>]

02:28:17   I'm trying to basically cut out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8897">TS</a>]

02:28:20   pieces that I will then put together to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8900">TS</a>]

02:28:23   make the movie you know what I mean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8903">TS</a>]

02:28:24   if I have like an in-car video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8904">TS</a>]

02:28:27   lasts 15 minutes maybe a minute and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8907">TS</a>]

02:28:29   half of that is potentially usable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8909">TS</a>]

02:28:32   I'm trying to amass all those like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8912">TS</a>]

02:28:34   know 30-second one minute three minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8914">TS</a>]

02:28:36   clips and so this way I'll know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8916">TS</a>]

02:28:40   can build the video out of and so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8920">TS</a>]

02:28:42   that entails is going through in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8922">TS</a>]

02:28:44   watching all of this video so I flew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8924">TS</a>]

02:28:49   direct from Dulles to San Francisco in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8929">TS</a>]

02:28:51   back and it wasn't until almost the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8931">TS</a>]

02:28:54   end of the flight to San Francisco that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8934">TS</a>]

02:28:56   it occurred to me I am a passenger on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8936">TS</a>]

02:29:00   airplane that has like a couple hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8940">TS</a>]

02:29:03   other people in it now granted not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8943">TS</a>]

02:29:06   200 or whatever other people were near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8946">TS</a>]

02:29:08   me but there were 10 or 15 people near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8948">TS</a>]

02:29:12   ish to me and if you were one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8952">TS</a>]

02:29:15   people and looked at me and my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8955">TS</a>]

02:29:18   screen at any point for six hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8958">TS</a>]

02:29:20   straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8960">TS</a>]

02:29:21   I was watching movies of myself for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8961">TS</a>]

02:29:26   freaking hours what you would think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8966">TS</a>]

02:29:31   you saw some moron watching movies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8971">TS</a>]

02:29:33   himself for six hours straight like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8973">TS</a>]

02:29:36   were doing it for the purpose of editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8976">TS</a>]

02:29:38   was there nothing on screen they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8978">TS</a>]

02:29:39   that well at first I was doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8979">TS</a>]

02:29:41   stuff and Final Cut Pro but later what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8981">TS</a>]

02:29:43   was doing is I was watching these videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8983">TS</a>]

02:29:45   and I'm sure that this is not necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8985">TS</a>]

02:29:47   and that I could have just done it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8987">TS</a>]

02:29:49   Final Cut Pro but this is the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8989">TS</a>]

02:29:50   would I wanted to take care of it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8990">TS</a>]

02:29:54   watching the videos and then using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8994">TS</a>]

02:29:55   ffmpeg to snip you know the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSKmvDU/8995">TS</a>]

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