The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► check it off it's like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► confusing titles where people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:03 ◼   ► listen to the whole episode and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► glance back at the title before I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► it it's always I'm like what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► about anything right it's a great time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/8">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► didn't love this title when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► said it but you're the two of you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► convincing me that there's this thing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► got legs just like my icon there's death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► to that title Depp the flavor and spice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► it's just a good practice that's not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► not a lot of levels of depth mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/25">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► yourself so as always we start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► follow up and listen to Richard Buxton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► wrote in to say that traits people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► generally like face ID and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► something I hadn't considered and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► I really liked this email Richard wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► I wanted to provide some feedback on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► face ID concept and perhaps shed light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► on an entirely different group of phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► users I'm a trades person or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► specifically an electrician and touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► sucks as a consequence of manual work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► with rough materials all day long my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► fingertips constantly gets scratched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► worn the result is that touch ID on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► either a six or seven plus constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► fails I have perhaps a ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► success rate and I am therefore forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► to type my password in a lot and thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► Richard rate you know had written that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► he was he is really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► excited about face ID and that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► perfect sense but it was something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/78">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► hadn't really considered you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► obvious thought of like oh people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► don't have I don't know hands or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► you know don't have fingers that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► dexterous enough to be placed on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► little fingerprint sensor that all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► know is semi obvious but I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► think of somebody that has potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► ten working digits but but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► packed to smithereens because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► line of work that they're in so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► thought that was a release we'll follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/100">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► up yeah also to think about people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► have weather which is the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► that comes to my mind when thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► about face ID is the large portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► the year that many people don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/109">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► take their hands out of their gloves or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► mittens or whatever to use their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► that's why they have all the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► gloves with the touch sensors on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► but then sometimes they only work for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► short period of time or sometimes it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► be too cold for them to even work and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► not have to deal with that to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► basically say if I got gloves that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► dexterous enough to handle my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► don't have to worry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► the phone can't touch my fingerprints in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/131">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► any way even if my fingerprints are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/134">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► pristine I think it was pointed in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► face and they will unlock and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► course you still have the problem of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► do you touch the screen but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► that's you know again that's where those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► gloves come in where at least you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► touch and scroll things but as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► I'm aware there are no gloves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► transfer your fingerprint through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► through their warmth to the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► sensor these biological systems you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/153">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of have to think like you know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► people does this exclude and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► and for the most part like we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► that our mainstream tech commentators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► and and media reviewers and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► we usually are not very aware of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► kinds of people or groups or situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► that this that anything you know could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► rule out in a lot of edge cases and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► it's it's nightly touch ID provides a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► fairly simple interaction but if you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► some reason can't do that very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► that's gonna be a major problem there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► no real out for you face idea I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► a little bit more flexible like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► they had the thing you know first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► I think more people can probably show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► their face and then but not everybody of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► course but you know but more people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► I think then can take out their finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► all the time and there's the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► because accessibility option where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► can turn off the looking at it attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► detection so in case people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► can't use their eyes that way then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/213">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► know they don't have to be directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► looking at the screen for it to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► you know so like there's there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► kind of accommodation and you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► going to find a system with this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► accommodates everybody but it does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► like face ID probably accommodates more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► situations than touch ID did one of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► like to tell me about why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► multitasking gesture feels different on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► springboard this is me that I'm the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► who last week described how I I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► bring up the multitasking switcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► reliably from springboard versus doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► it from an in applications so much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► that I initially thought it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► possible to bring up the Moses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► Twitter from springboard and I pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► quickly figured out why after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and back and looked at it more closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► and it has to do with something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► talked about which is animations on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► you do the multitasking gesture on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► that contains an application as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► start to do the swipe up thing whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► you're gonna like take a hard ride and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► go multitasking or go up in an angle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► go to multitasking or go straighter up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► and go to the homescreen no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► one of those things you're doing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► you're doing the gesture the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► that was in the foreground starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► like shrink and move upward like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► doesn't follow your finger exactly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► it reacts to what your finger is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► in a reasonably linear way I'm swiping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► up at the far farther up I go the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► shrinky the front thing gets and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► know if I flick to the right I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► little mostly fasten thing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► um if you do it on springboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► screen reacts to you're scrolling upward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► from the bottom like it doesn't just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► there and not move at all it does sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► of start to shrink and move a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but then it stops shrinking and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► and it's kind of inert for a period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► time if you successfully complete the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► gesture the multitasking switcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► appears if you don't successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► complete it it snaps back to where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► was and that discontinuity like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► that there was a different relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► between what my finger was doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► was on the screen was apparently enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► to make me think it wasn't possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► initially and then fail at it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► higher percentage of the time then on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► other screens so what I've been trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► to do is break that connection which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► hard for me because I'm a visual person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► and I you know like that when things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/356">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► connected in that way it makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► me when they're not connected it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► like things are broken but to say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► the screen is not gonna react the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► way in springboard just do the gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► right just do your little J turn do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► little angle swipe do whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► have to do to make N and have faith that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► even though the screen stops reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► your sliding finger just keep sliding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► just just keep sliding swipe me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► keep swiping and have some confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► now I still am less successful and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► could be that I need some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► feedback to match up with my like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► you know yeah your thumbs making a right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► turn yeah it's gonna happen for you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► how the little thing is moving to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► right a little bit like I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► know what the disconnect is there but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► that I'm not the only one a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► people did tweet at me and tell me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► some people also thought it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► possible from springboard until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► heard the program some people knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► was possible but have much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► difficulty doing it and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► there are all the people who are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► equivalent of taptic like wizards like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► had no problem at a single time I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► exact 45-degree line with my thumb it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► happens every single time so whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► everyone has difficult in ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► accessibility issue everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► different difficult different abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► to swipe but I think the difficulty on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/426">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► spring work actually is explicable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► the by the difference in animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► because that is the only difference as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► far as I can tell like it's still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► the same gesture works in both places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► the only difference is what happens on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► your screen and if you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► expectation of something that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► happen on your screen that it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► can cause you to to pause to rethink to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► move your finger differently to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► moving and all those things will mess up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► your gesture so I'll keep practicing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► my wife's thumb in the meantime Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► should consider doing something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► that J because I don't see any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► why springboard can't have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► animation my goal in the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► obviously you're never going to go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► springboard to springboard so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► animation that has to initiate is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► one that brings to the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► switcher and if you bail on the gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► yeah it'll snap back to where it's plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► but I don't see why it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► doesn't follow your thumb the full way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► through the gesture to give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► confidence to know that it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► happen for you the multitasking screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► is gonna come up yeah it is weird I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► noticed that as well that it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► peculiar speaking of things that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► you said John last episode I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► phone for $50 and it's fine tell me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► about that's still funny that was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► me describing my sister getting her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► phone and how I wasn't able to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► get an iPhone and you know it occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► to me that would be good slogan for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► Android and some people took that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► ran with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► but I did want to offer some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► clarification because some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► thought it was like they were putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► down Android that is you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► pejorative like oh this $50 phone bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► a piece of crap right my main point was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the opposite that the Android phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► can can you can get for $50 is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/528">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► right and if you're not as I said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► phone enthusiast or like an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/533">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► enthusiast or a gadget head or someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/537">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► who appreciates the ways in which iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► differs from Android the supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► superiority of iOS or Apple hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► anything like that does not even come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► close to overcoming the price difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► right so I got this one $40 and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► fine sounds like you know like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► people you end up but really if Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► problem in that if the $50 phone is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Apple has a problem there and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► aspect is people say well I don't I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► appreciate those differences I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► know I do like high-tech gadgets I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► don't like iOS or I like Android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► better or you know whatever those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► the people who are shopping for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► high-end fancy Android phones and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► people are insulted that we thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► said if you're a gadget nerd obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► you're gonna like iOS and if you're nan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► gadget nerd then Android is fine for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► and that wasn't my intention I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► understand where you got that impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► but yeah of course if you don't like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► at all but also like high-tech fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► phones yeah you're also gonna shop for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► an Android but you're not gonna pay $50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► for it is what I'm getting out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► like you're gonna actually pay the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► money for the fanciest highest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► Android phone and that phone is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► going to cost you $50 so you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► excluded from this guy I got this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► for the LSM it's fine the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► can say for those people is you do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► to make do with a slower CPU sorry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► but that if you like Android and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► control it offers and all the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► features that Andros has that that iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► doesn't like a configurable set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► widgets on your lockscreen and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► then yeah go for it but yeah my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► point is I got this one $50 and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► fine sounds insulting if you're an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► snob but really it constitutes a semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► real problem for Apple because the fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► dollar phone is fine why the hell are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► all paying $1200 for an iPhone 10 yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► Duncan Stevenson price writes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► regarding Apple Care Plus did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► know that you can get a pro-rata refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► on the plan if you change your iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► after one year this changes the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► this individual wrote maths that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► this changes the math a little though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► admittedly not the overall thrust of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► your argument against buying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► I had no idea that that was possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► and I don't recall how they said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► you go about doing that because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► they did include it in their email but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► apparently there's a way to get a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► a refund on your Apple Care Plus I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► get a phone every year so I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► about this at all but - you - who do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► a phone every you should try that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► know Casey you bought the Apple care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► this time next time you go to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► phone say Duncan told you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► supposed to get some of the money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► for Apple care and see what they do well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► I did not get AppleCare this time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► know you did no no no I got a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► did get AppleCare it's a $50 leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► case remind me of this when I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► shadow my phone that's right Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► Harrison writes you mentioned that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► not possible to remove individual keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► on the new keyboards well I just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► faulty B key on my macbook pro and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/708">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► first thing they did the Genius Bar was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► take it out back that sounds awkward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► removed the offending geek app to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► for dust etc underneath from what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► could gather they have a special device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► or machine for removing keys so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03 ◼   ► something one could do at home but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► possible in the end I still had a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► top case with the accompanying touch pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► our trackpad touch bar and battery etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► there's been a lot of talk about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/731">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► or not you can remove individual keys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► a non-destructive way and Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► certainly thinks that it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► although he ended up going the destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► they ended up going the destructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► route in his behalf anyway so what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► heard from geniuses in a past feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► is yeah of course you can get the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► caps off right but that the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► removing them has such a high chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► bending or breaking one of the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► tiny very delicate plastic pins that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► holds these things together that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► geniuses you wrote to us that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► I've never seen anyone pull it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► successfully or the success rate is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► low that it's not even worth trying so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► don't doubt that they still try to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► but I wonder like why did this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► get a new keyboard possibly because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► got the key cap off and they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► they had done it successfully and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► tried to put it back on and realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► they'd accidentally bent one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► little tiny pins and it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that's it game over because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► repairing a bent pin there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► repairing a broken pen if you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it off cleanly and get it back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► cleanly then its whole new top case with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► just one of the many reasons that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► keyboard is not friendly to repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► yeah it seems like the the rate at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/798">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► they're able to properly rescue it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► some kind of replacement in store or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► some kind of like you know not replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► the entire top case the the the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► of problems that are solved that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► seems significantly smaller than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► number that require a whole top case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► replacement anyway so what however the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► multiple parts inside the keys work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► however the serviceability works out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► reality is this is a incredibly service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► unfriendly problem I also you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► this topic there's been some number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► good discussions about this on connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► with Stephen Hackett and because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► a genius back in the day and he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► he he mentioned that like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► one bad key requiring the replacement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the entire top case of the computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06 ◼   ► the entire top case being a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► expensive repair because the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► computer is basically built under it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► you have to like basically take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► entire computer apart in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► replace that and put it back together he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► mentioned that this is actually not new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► to this current generation of MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► Pros this started with the unibody back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► what was at 2011 that the unibody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► started 2010 something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► ever since the unibody MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► you've had to replace the entire top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► case and it's been a lot of work if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► keyboard breaks in certain ways the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► difference with the new ones is that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► only are the keys more likely to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► in a way that requires top case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► replacement into the older keys you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► a better chance of servicing individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► key caps but also as we know the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/888">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► ones have such an incredibly high key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► failure rate with whatever-it-is specks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► of dust things bending whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► problem ends up being with these we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that they are failing way more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02 ◼   ► than they used to so the the whole top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► case being required thing is not new but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► the rate of failure and how severe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► failures are now does seem very new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► even the old keyboards with the scissor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► switches I've manually tried to repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► many of those and they have a lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► version of the same problem removing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► key caps from an older or scissor switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► keyboard is possible but there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► fairly high chance that you will bend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► break one of the little pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► I think I think mostly I bent them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► don't think know if I ever really broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► one off but I definitely bent them in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► attempts to repair things both on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► the laptop keyboards and on these same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► scissors which is that are in the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► extended aluminum keyboard and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► it's pretty easy to mangle the tiny semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► clear pieces of plastic in there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► it's basically like a bunch of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► plastic Hindi mechanisms with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► little little feet little legs little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► cylindrical sticks that snap into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/956">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► little C shaped clamps on the key cap or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► at least with a scissors it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► imagine it's similar with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► new butterfly ones and that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► that's just a really difficult thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► to work with you kind of have to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► lot of them blind where you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► get the pieces of line correctly put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► cap on and then just press down and hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► everything snaps in all at once it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► not particularly friendly to repair it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► never hasn't been it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► these new ones are even smaller and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► little leggy things are even finer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► can find some good like sort of macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► photography of it online if you search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► but it's not something that I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► to repair and I'm sure there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► sort of gung-ho geniuses who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► I'm gonna do it this is gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► time I'm gonna get the key cap off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► never get it back on and everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► gonna work until the next speck of dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► but you know they know that if they if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► they blow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► 475 dollars or whatever it is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► that's rough I see the notes here about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► the OLED display but I have a feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► that somebody's trying to tell a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► with them so rather than flub my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► through it and whoever I'm assuming this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► is John do you want to talk about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► think we touched on this in many past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► shows in terms of burn in on the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► LEDs and everything and things Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► might be doing that acknowledge the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that has burned them whether it be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► the 30-second timeout on the thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► by the way some people say is not new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► and just a bug or happened with non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► iPhone 10 so who knows that's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► mysterious but this the the burnin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► the OLED is communicated in various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► Apple tech notes it's also communicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► in iOS itself if you look at the auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► brightness setting on a non iPhone 10 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► says auto brightness on and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► there's a little descriptive text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► underneath it says turning off auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► brightness way affect the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► right so that was the old message like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► hey if you don't let the phone sense how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► much life there is in the room and doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► itself if you just set it keep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► brightness and set it that way all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► time even in the pitch dark room it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► affect battery life we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► may lessen your battery life right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► new thing if you have an iPhone 10 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that very same switch says turning off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► auto brightness may affect battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► and long-term display performance so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► they added some words to that and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► they mean by long-term display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► performance is that if you turn off auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► brightness crank it to max brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► and don't let it dim itself even in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► dark room you're probably gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► burnin sooner than if you didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► because one of the tools like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► if you read the Apple Doc's they in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► typical sort of marketing PR speak they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► say the Apple display and iPhone 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19 ◼   ► whatever blah blah blah have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► engineered to reduce burnin and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► are many aspects to being engineered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► reduce burnin one of those aspects is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► our software will try to prevent burnin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► by trying to be nice to your screen will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► adjust the brightness down so it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► max brightness in a dark room well dim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► as soon as we possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► we'll try to pay attention to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► you're looking at the screen so we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► when we can dim and also the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► screen is built to be resistant to burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► and whatever that involves so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► the whole package it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► hardware's not just software it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► everything and part of that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► taking you know some responsibility in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► your own hands if you tweak the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► if you if you put the brightness to max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► turn off auto brightness and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► also turn off true tone and put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► sleep your display sleep time around 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► minutes you are probably gonna get burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► in sooner and more severely than someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► who leaves it in the default setting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► welcome to my world of plasma television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► ownership yeah this is probably my only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► long-term concern about the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► and using all that screens in general on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► the iPhone which you know this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► gonna be the first phone to do this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► mean sorry the only phone to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► because we really don't know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► mean by critical word here long term if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► you actually use your phone with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► screen on a lot because if you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► it the screen is going to be on a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► and many parts of iOS are always in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► same place like status bar items and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► home indicator and stuff when they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► long term sure to refer to OLED problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► well how long what are we talking here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► are we talking a few months are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► talking a year a few years you know cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► that like I feel like whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► number actually is there makes a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► deal of difference on to what we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► do and how big those problems are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► know if it if it turns out that OLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► screened iPhones are going to have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► really annoying screen flaws eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► months into ownership that's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► really big problem even if they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► have really annoying flaws after two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► years of ownership that's gonna really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► impact the used market so either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► like if this is at all like likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► have serious display flaws during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► useful lifetime of the product that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► gonna be a big problem down the road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► I really hope it's not that bad I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► it will probably be okay just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Apple seemed so aware of this issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► Apple held off on OS for such a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► time and also the whole rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► industry meaning Android is that all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► screens for so long that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► it's it's not a it shouldn't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► mystery Apple is not the first you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► companies putting all it in its phone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► we should have data from all the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► many years of OLED Android phones of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► what their performance characteristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► are like and how bad burnin is and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► Apple of course waiting until it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► just the right display hopefully has one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► that is better in all ways that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► make it better including burnin so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► advice to people is to not be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► obsessed about this as I am with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► closet Intellivision and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► use sensible settings maybe just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► the defaults if you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► sensible settings are leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► auto-brightness on don't crank your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► brightness to max if you can help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► let your display go to sleep but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► general just use your phone because I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► prediction is that image retention will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► not be a problem on the average lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► lifetime of a newly bought iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► because I would imagine the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► lifetime a newly bought iPhone 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► probably like two points something years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► right because if you buy the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► iPhone 10 probably you're gonna want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► buy a new one or within at least two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► years and maybe there's some long-tailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► people who try to keep them for much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► longer right because it's an expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► phone it may be more of a problem when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► OLED travels down the line to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► cheaper phones that tend to be kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► longer and Marco's right about the used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► market but you know I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► much people buy their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► contingent on the idea of being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► sell them for you haven't have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► having high resale value I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► how common that is versus trade-ins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► which that's the good thing about trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► ins is you're not getting a big great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► deal on trade ins anyway but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► think Apple's gonna give you guff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► trading in your phone for their like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► update program if you've got image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► retention because like look it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► damn phone Apple that's not my fault it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► is every time you take my phone and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► me a pittance for it so I'm I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► concerned also when I look at my plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37 ◼   ► television that is how I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► old it is but it's longer there's older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► than two years old and plasmas are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► notorious for image retention I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► know what the oled characteristics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► remnant retention are but i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► convinced that the characteristics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► plasma or the are that if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► patient enough you could your destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► HUD will go away in a year right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► know if that helps the resale market or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► makes people feel better but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► I'm actually kind of optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► this having been in the burnin wars for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► many many years and finally having seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► so many people in real life you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► absolutely shattered cell phones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► smartphones just completely destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► like not just little spiderweb or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► crack here or there but like whole giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► glass chips missing circuit boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► exposed like one step short of sparks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► flying from the phone as they use it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► have a hard time believing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► average person will be thwarted from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► using their phone because it has image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► retention honey because that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► a physical defect like tactile disa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► defect like they can feel that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► like the home indicator always looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► like it's on the screen but whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► I think it'll be okay but if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► super paranoid nerd about it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► take a look at your phone in a year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► two and I don't know Marco will put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► free app on the App Store that puts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► checkerboard pattern on your screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► turns it into grey yeah I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► that this is a non-issue but like it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► concern is you know so they set it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► the 30 second by default screens sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► which I hate and thank God I turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► off my concern is if I since I raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► that to five minutes if my if I get bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► image retention on my screen in six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► months are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► you slash all the crazy Apple defenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► on Twitter going to say well I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► it wrong I was using this option that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► shouldn't have been using like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► gonna be my fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► because I changed this annoying setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► back to where it was on all LCD phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► before that it said may affect battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► life and long-term display performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► Marco can't you read you know it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► say that and yeah that will contribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► to it but like that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► there's any consequences like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► not going to say you know you like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► you bring it in with image retention I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► not sure what their their deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► but same thing with the iMac like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► just let your iMac screen dim more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► or move your windows around more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► maybe you'd have less image retention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► but it still just replaces green for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► right I wonder if there is it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► like if you use launch control on us on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► a sports car there's there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► always like it's always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► conventional wisdom that like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1511">TS</a>]

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00:25:14 ◼   ► burn out the engine like they'll check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► that counter or you do any launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► controls like they won't serve as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► car like is it like a counter on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► iPhone of like how many times a day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► I've let it reach that's like five max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► brightness for five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1527">TS</a>]

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00:25:34 ◼   ► it's been in the bathroom red flag John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1534">TS</a>]

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00:25:41 ◼   ► wasn't it wasn't the proper tag we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1541">TS</a>]

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00:25:58 ◼   ► amazing looking print you can hang it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► the wall you can prop it up on a desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► you can give them as gifts you can keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► them in your own house or office they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► look great they get tons of compliments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► I have them all over my house all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► my office I have photos I've gotten my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► app icons printed and little square ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► and hanging like a little trophy app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► icon wall up above in my office here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► we've given lots of them as gifts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► family members and friends things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► if you have you know a cute picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► your kid or pet you can give them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► other people who might appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► and your family and friends they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► wonderful wonderful decorations for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► home or gifts and the photos really look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► great the colors really pop the contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► is really perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► and it really just goes edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► with the coupe with the photo print it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► looks clean and sleek and modern without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► really needing any other ornamentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► you don't need like a big frame around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► it or anything else like that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► incredibly practical it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► incredibly economical you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► buy a frame or get it framed fractures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► are just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► ordering is simple and fracture prints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► come ready to display right out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► box they even include the wall hanger if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you need it and they are a green company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1623">TS</a>]

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00:27:11 ◼   ► about it but fracture wants you to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that around the holiday season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► they really get booked up quickly and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the holiday season they get tons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► tons of orders because they make such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1638">TS</a>]

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00:27:40 ◼   ► show anyway at least a couple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► wrote in and were confused / perturbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► that we didn't really talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► iPhone 10 camera last week when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► going over our impressions that's a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► criticism and I don't have all that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► to say surprisingly I do really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► like portrait mode until Joe Steele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► corrects me and shows me all the ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► which portrait mode is terrible but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► eyes are not discerning enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► able to see in a lot of cases all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► places that portrait mode is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► falling on its face and and portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► mode is where they get the fake boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► bouquet whatever however you pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► it the background blur and the depth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► field tricks is one of those words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► niche or niche where no matter how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► pronounce it everyone's gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► what you're wrong yeah so if I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► I'll see if I can dig up some links for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► the for the show notes but it followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► Joe Steele on Twitter he's funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► he's he's good but anyways he has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► through some of the pictures I've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and noted all the places that portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► mode has been not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► and it's funny because some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► things that he's noted are extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► obvious in retrospect but in the heat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► the moment I just don't notice them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► I think I had tweeted a picture of a cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► of Diet Coke at McDonald's to friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► the show Alex Cox and half of the straw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► was missing and I didn't even notice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► pointed it out like again it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► obvious that I should have noticed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► just didn't and maybe it's because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► just predisposed to like this cuz this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► is the first time I've had this in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► human-sized phone but uh but I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► like portrait mode and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► pretty cool it just has a lot of room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► improve but I don't know Marco what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► you think about the camera so I I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► hard time evaluating the camera in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► kind of useful way to anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► because I didn't have the duels through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► the dual lens camera from the 7 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► bill I didn't I didn't do plus phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► before but my impressions of it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► that giant disclaimer you know aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► I love the regular cameras on this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► regular wide and the regular you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► quote telephoto which is not a telephoto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► but I'll take it because it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► a 45 millimeter ish equivalent something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► like that so I very much enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► focal length and and so I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► enjoyed the camera using its regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► modes I have played a little bit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► portrait mode and portrait lighting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► have managed so far to take zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► acceptable pictures with it in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► when I've seen other people's pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► using these modes I have seen I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► sure 0 of them that I considered you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18 ◼   ► know good without without obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► weirdness or flaws maybe it's because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► have a lot of experience shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► pictures with big cameras and big glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► with proper background blur with shout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► at the field but these the pictures from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► portrait mode and not even getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► portrait lighting which I think portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► lighting is basically the same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► with some weird effects apply to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► same data that sometimes work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► usually don't portrait mode itself it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► just always looks really bizarre to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► it never fools me into thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► this was taken with a shallow depth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► field and a lot of glass ideally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► shouldn't be perfect every time but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► should be able to provide that illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► much of the time and to me it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► doesn't and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► maybe I'm just being too picky or too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► observant or you know nitpicking on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► details but the problem with me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► III basically have to two critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► problems with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► number one is obviously the depth map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► that it captures just simply is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► granular enough it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► high-resolution enough and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► they've actually been a couple of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► one of them is called focus FOCS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► this is really cool like 3d you can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► of like it kind of like shows you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► picture in the 3d rendering as the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► map and you can kind of turn it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► can see like the different layers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► are captured in the depth map it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► really cool to see but you you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► from these deaf math viewing apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► the resolution of the depth data is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► very high it's not very granular it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► it's pretty coarse there's not that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► levels and there's and it's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► per pixel depth mapping so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► you can have like if somebody has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► hair sticking out of their head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► hair will be blurred away in this effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► whereas on a real camera that hair if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the rest of her hair was InFocus that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► hair being focused to and also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► Infinity starts like at the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► people's head like that only does it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► have a lot of levels but it uses up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the levels on the stuff that's close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► you so it's like nose cheek ear back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► the head and that everything else is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► depth which is behind like the farthest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► depth so when you do the 3d 3d thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► you rotate it it looks like everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► head is embedded in a wall and that wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► is like here are the levels close closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► close nose and then everything else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► basically either infinity or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► that and so when they blur the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► background they're blurring everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► that's beyond their last level of depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► resolution as if it's equidistant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► and it's not like the tree that's ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► feet from you is too different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► tree that's forty feet from you but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► far as the blurring is concerned it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► no more depth information so it treats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► them all the same which contributes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► the what Mark was talking about if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► know what it's supposed to look like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► you see these pictures it's so obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► to you this something is off right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► like so you know problem number one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► that the depth information is not high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► resolution enough to even do the effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► consistently around things like object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► edges and that's that's where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► the obvious problems up here is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► around edges you know edges of people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► heads edges of objects you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► they're Justin's very course map and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► they're trying to be smart about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► they succeed sometimes but like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► apples example photos I remember like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34 ◼   ► when when the iPhone 8 and 10 we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► when their event happened and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► up their big press pages on the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► even some of their example photos I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► thought had obvious flaws from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► algorithm so again maybe I'm just seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► this too much but they're not capturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► enough resolution of depth data to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► able to do the edges correctly that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► why edges always look weird and fuzzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► and they blur things that shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► blurred and vice versa sometimes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► other problem is which on set the blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► doesn't look right like if if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► seen actual you know blur photos from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► real optics more than a few times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► will probably recognize that the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► and look of the blur in these portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► mode photos isn't right like and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► it's hard to put into words why but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► just not the right kind of blur it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► doesn't look the way it would look for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► lens even if the def map was perfect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► they were able to do it pixel by pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the blur is still wrong and so the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► and it looks it just looks like a filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► it looks like a like a cheap image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► editing filter that's trying to cover up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► bad optics which it is so so well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► know not not bad small optics that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► not designed for this now so all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► being said I am very very happy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► camera without any of these tricks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► a fantastic camera and you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► the portrait crazy effects that all look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► weird and blur the edges of your dog off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► you don't need those to make this camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► look amazing they're a fun trick they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► a fun demo I'm sure and I'm sure people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► have fun with them and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► everyone's going to write in to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► saying how much fun they have with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► if you like them great but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► really don't and the cameras are so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► without them that I almost find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► like an odd detraction from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► otherwise awesome camera but fortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► it doesn't get in my way I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► use those modes and I get to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► pictures well you know technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► awesome my competition is terrible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► but I hate to take technically awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► pictures with this camera and with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► of these cameras and finally had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► flexibility of having that zoomed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► lens and I loved all that I just have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► use for the for the trickery modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► having a telephoto lens is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► and I forget that it's a thing at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► because I'm so used to just never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► ever zooming my camera ever you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► early as my iPhone I should say in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► same way that I never really use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► flash ever because I've just trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► myself to never use the flash which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► actually from everything I've gathered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► and seen the flash on the iPhone both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► front facing and rear is actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► bad I mean it doesn't mean that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► perfect but it as a flash goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► particularly on a phone it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► decent and so because I've trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► myself to never zoom I forget that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► telephoto lens is a thing but as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► turns out it's awesome just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► were saying Marco just to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► option to zoom at all is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and as a quick aside at work today we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► had a chili cook-off and in I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► somewhere with this the way it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► was we had something like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► something like twelve different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► employees cooked Chili's and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► gave us like a little shooter like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► shot cup or it would be a glass if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► will but like a little play a paper cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► it was like the size of a shot that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► could take a little sample of each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the chilies and you know vote on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► whichever one was your favorite right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► I take it a picture to send to Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► earlier today and I used portrait mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► now in the defense of Apple portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► mode was only really officially marketed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► as being for people but what I did was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► took a shot of my stack of you know shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► cups if you will and and I sent it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► her and I just looked back at it a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► minutes ago and realized that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► look at it at a glance it looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► really good or at least it does to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► but if you look at it for even a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► more than a glance and I've put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► in the show notes now put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► chat room look at the right side all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► way at the top like part of the cup it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► just gone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► yes proposed algorithm kind of hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► found the edge of that design on the cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► and expected that that was an edge of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► person and just blurt it out for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► which I mean again to be fair to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► like this is a really crummy situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► to put this software through right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► put this edge detection through like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► this is this is this is ripe for failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► but at the same time like it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► clear that I'm not going to be giving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► on my Micro Four Thirds camera anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► soon you know what I mean so I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► blur effect that Marco thought look bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► I think that blur effect would be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► if there was depth information back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► there because the reason I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► looks terrible is because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► basically blurring a flat photo whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► if you have an actual absolute optically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you know blurred stuff depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► distance the closer things are blurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► less than things are farther away like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► depending it from with how close they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► are to like that you know the focal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► point right but if you only have depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► information for the first like two feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► in front of you everything behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► is like a blurred poster and it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► like a blurred poster but all that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► I agree with Marco like you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► this the cameras are great without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► there that you know that's probably why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► we didn't talk about it's like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► the best iPhone cameras ever everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Apple says it's true they are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► than the previous cameras and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► previous cameras are already pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► and they're great and you'll take good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► pictures with them two things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► about this the portrait lighting modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► I think the fill their purpose better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► than the whatever the portrait blurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► mode because they're so focused on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► selfies and you know dramatic pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► of people they're more like Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► filters were like yeah we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► mangle your picture for an artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► effect no one is going to think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► this is an untouched photo and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► the point the crazy studio lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► where blacks out the background for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► extra drama and stuff you can get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► hilarious weird effects out of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► it's kind of you know that's it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► people who want to use it and try it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► getting exactly what they want out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► ridiculous over long dramatic effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► that they're gonna screw up a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► time but hey you think 900 selfies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► before you pick the one you like anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► right so no problem there as for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► portrait mode blurring thing which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► been around for a while now and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► all over the place in real life on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► I think the main feature of that is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► you don't have a big expensive camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► and most people don't and I just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the numbers like this they don't sell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► lot of big expensive cameras as compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► to the number of cell phones this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► first time many people have ever been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► able to take a picture that has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► look that you know oh the thing I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► to take a picture of now look sharper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► because the rest of the thing is blurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and so I'm not distracted by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► background and it looks like a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► picture it looks more professional it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► doesn't matter whether they can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► whether it looks right or not all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► matters is that they had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► previously had the ability to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► pictures there were anything like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that had any kind of depth of field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► right it was always like everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► you know there's some tiny pinhole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► camera and everything was in focus cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► all the light beams were getting phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► through this tiny tiny aperture on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► you know cheap camera on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► right and so for them it's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► upgrade of never having this effect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► subjectively looking at a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► your kid with the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► pleasantly blurred out makes your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► look better right it's not that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► comparing that to how it would look with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► you know an actual wide aperture big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► glass expensive camera because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► don't have one of those and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► probably never will they're comparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► to how it would look if that with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► effect turned off and as far as they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► concerned this looks better because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► just looks closer to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► quote-unquote professional picture or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► magazine type picture and I can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► I can see but when I see if we use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► like they just say I just like it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► it looks better so in the end that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► blurring portrait picture is giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► people a better experience with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► phone at least in the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► they're like this phone takes pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► that I'm just blown away they maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► don't even know what it is about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► like they just look better right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► even if you point out how you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► erased your kids ear they're like oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► I still like it the only only concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► with the blurring which so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► love is that I worry that years down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► line they will feel bad that all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► pictures of lily and Apple also saves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► the unmodified picture so that shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► be a problem but I still worry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► somehow that information will get lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► or the blurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► we burned out to a flat JPEG and moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► around to different service and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► know I don't know like I've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► heard from some people who kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► regret they took a lot of pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► their kids with that maybe they maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► they don't know they can recover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► original or maybe they can't anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► because they've exported it in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► but in general I think despite what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► Marco and I a many other big camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► owning people think about it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► people like this feature I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► helps sell iPhones and I think it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► people happier with their phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► happier with the pictures they take with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► it yeah I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► and again if you don't take a critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► eye to it which for the three of us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► or certainly the two of you probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► three of us is hilarious but you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► I don't if I don't really and truly look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► at these pictures even those cups which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► as soon as you take a true look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► it's so obvious how broken it is but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► a glance I didn't even notice so yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► you're not discerning then this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► than enough and it saves you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► thousand plus dollars of getting another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► camera that has big glass etc yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► would want to spend a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► on a camera right yeah why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► guys spend $1,200 on a phone it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2596">TS</a>]

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00:44:25 ◼   ► your free account today and see for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► yourself at jam com / ATP that's JAMF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► dot-com / ATP manage your Apple devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► from anywhere alright moving on to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► ATP Kim Albrecht writes in with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► consider gaming on the GeForce now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► service instead of getting a tricked-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► new Mac Pro and and Kim included a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► youtube link which we will put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► show notes so what is g-force now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► what is this about what is this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► so the short answer is no I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► consider that but the longer answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► what do you for us now is g-force now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► another sad / I don't know it's it's sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► to me attempt to get gaming to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► gaming to Mac users right you got a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► you want to play games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► boot camp is there for you if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► it but even if you go in boot camp you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► probably don't have the best GPU because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► Apple isn't cellmaxx with it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► you're like what if you want to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► most demanding modern PC games but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► don't want to and a PC you just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► Mac you're kind of stuck these days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you for us now is the service a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► some services in the past including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► one I'm most familiar with on live for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► many years ago where it will run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► game for you in a data center far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► on a tricked-out PC with all the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► hardware presumably using nvidia gpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► right and then it will let you remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► control that PC sending the picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► it to your screen and letting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► keyboard and mouse act as input for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► so that's what the g-force now services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► and it lets you run unlike your dinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► like Matt you know MacBook escape with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► Wimpy GPU you can run the most modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► game at a really high frame rate at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► really high resolution because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► not running it it's running on a fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► computer far away from you you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► displaying the results is kind of a dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► terminal but of course there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► know no free lunch you've got latency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► because you're communicating over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► Internet the image quality that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► getting is not going to be the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► if it was running locally because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► have to compress that video and send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► to you you need to have a fast internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► to have not many hitches and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► internet connection you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► surprising amount of bandwidth because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► there are a lot of frames in that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► and that's generally why I wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► instead of a local computer because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► compromises are not great and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52 ◼   ► especially bad for some of the types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► games that I like like you know a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► like destiny if I want to try I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► love to play destiny too on on the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► because I get a higher framerate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► it's higher res but destiny does have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► game that is very sensitive to lag it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► would really affect gameplay if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► to play something like civilization or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► some other game that is also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► demanding but maybe not as sensitive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► like I don't know someone who play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► civilization could tell me if it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► it's a game where you need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► twitch reflexes but surely there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► games out there that you don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► about the extra latency and it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► about you know the rest of the gameplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► experience this would be something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► might be interested in it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► a pay service and then you have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► for the games on top of that so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► know it's cheaper than buying a gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► PC but it's an additional cost so I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► them luck with the service and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► like a good idea I just wish that gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► would actually get better on Macs but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► that's never ever gonna happen I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► of glad that someone still feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► there's money to be squeezed from Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► users should want to play games as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► as they make that amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► smaller than the price and hasslein and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► desk space of buying a gaming PC I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► maybe there's a market for it alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► mark MV writes in do you use a VPN if so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► which one would you recommend so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► motivation here I think is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► are many VPN services that that allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► for different things one example is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► you live outside the United States but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► want to have an internet connection that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► appears to be within the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► so you can use well I guess Netflix used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► to be a good example now I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► it's quite as important or any number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► other services that are that are forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► to be us-only but another option is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► you're just in a public Wi-Fi hotspot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► and you want your your communications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► be encrypted then you could use a VPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► for that I do use a VPN when I am out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► the house on a Wi-Fi networks that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► not trust or if for some reason I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► to get on my in-home network and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► answer that I have for what VPN do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► recommend well I recommend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► VPN that you run on your Synology that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55 ◼   ► sitting in your house it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► terribly useful recommendation I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► the first to admit but you could install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► mac OS server if you have a computer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► home a Mac at home that's on all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► time if you have any sort of like cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► computer that can run Linux you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► you know various different servers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► do it that way or if you have a Synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that I strongly recommend setting up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► VPN server on there if like me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► connect your Synology to the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► which I know John's is not but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► what I do I can't speak for either of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► you guys so Marco what do you do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► this if anything I mostly don't use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► because first of all I'm hardly ever out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► of my house and when I am usually on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► cell network and I know the Sun network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► is not perfectly secure but I'm hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► ever connecting to somebody else's Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► it is what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► so it where I think is probably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► common need for a VPN is to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► protect yourself in that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► situation there are lots of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► reasons to use one as you said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► I I'm not that up on what's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► solution if security and privacy are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► main reasons you're using them there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► like you can use a big service like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► so the one I use occasionally when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► need it is encrypt me which is formally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► known as cloak I signed up for that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14 ◼   ► little while back but it's mostly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► practicality not like sheer amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► security so for instance at my in-laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► place their crappy rural ISP blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► outbound SSH connections so I can't into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► any of yes so I can't log into any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► servers when I'm there it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► like I'm sure it's like you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► like Windows worm probably started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► attacking SSH servers they just figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► they block I don't know I'm sure there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► was a reason like that it's not whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► it is not a good reason but the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► I have to occasionally log in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► servers when I'm away so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► so I basically bought it just to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► but I use it also when traveling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► know when I have to be like on a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► Wi-Fi for a reasonable connectivity I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► use it that but I usually don't use one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► because again I'm usually I'm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► never connected to anybody else's Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► networks I think the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► connecting to a random Wi-Fi network in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► public and letting all your traffic flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► over that without always being encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► like without everything running over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► HTTP which you know let's face it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► gonna have something that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25 ◼   ► doesn't the idea of that sounds crazy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► me and I think we're gonna look back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► this era of using public Wi-Fi networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► unencrypted like I think we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► look back on this and think that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► in in not even that long maybe in five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► or ten years this was the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► can I think of random public Wi-Fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► everyone not having every device have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► Sylar connection that is theirs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► private that's gonna seem barbaric but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► anyway yeah I use I use cloak which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► now known as encrypt me but hardly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► hope that I hardly ever actually need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► use it if you are doing it more for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► privacy I don't know a lot about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► but I do know there is always discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► about like which of the various VPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► services keep logs or will be beholden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► to government requests or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► that there's all sorts of like levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► paranoia slash security depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16 ◼   ► your point of view that that you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► into with this and I not familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► that so I will say if you lead in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► direction or if you have more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► needs like that you're probably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► off doing something more like KC's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► suggested which is like kind of running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► your own on some kind of server that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► can trust somewhere rather than doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► somebody's big service but that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► don't worry about that I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► worried about you know kind of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► story's about antivirus software being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41 ◼   ► vector for malware right VPNs the VPNs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that are secretly run by like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► hostile foreign government unbeknownst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► to you they're just man in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► and all of your traffic even is secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► stuff and feeding you fake certificates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► for SSL and all sorts of other stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► like I'm using on my Synology its local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► it's fine it's like a you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that you don't know like Synology could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► be unknowing shipping some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► thing that is infected with some malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► that is sending all your traffic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► who-knows-where by in general I use VPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► at work for work because I have to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► have no idea if the VPN I'm using for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► work is actually making things more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► secure or not but I have to use it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► when I am out and about I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► connecting back to anything in my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► because I have no way to do so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► because that just makes me feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► comfortable and I tend not to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► think I have cloak and a couple other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► VPN software that I think I've used on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► occasion when I've been feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► particularly paranoid and have no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► but to connect to some potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► sketchy Wi-Fi network but in general I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► will connect to Wi-Fi at the hotel I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► staying at and I'll just use it and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► try not to worry about it I'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► going for the Big Sky theory which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► lot of people out in the world didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► unless someone is specifically targeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54 ◼   ► me I'm probably gonna be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► and on-cell most of the time that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► away anyway but I have to think back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► few times over so I use the hotel Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► I rely on the fact that the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► care about should all be over a cell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► I just hope that I'm not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► man-in-the-middle with some fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► certificate authority crap and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► keep my fingers crossed because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► else can you do and there's also other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► practical reasons you might want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► one like there's a lot of VPN services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that provide built-in ad blocking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► like just all of your stuff through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► VPN there's some that that enable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► know as he said to enable you to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► your regions for video services which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► can be nice there's also such and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► could be not only just internationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► but even that could be for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► sports black out things which I'll I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► don't want even pretend to know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► more than just that's a term that exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► I'm sorry there's also things like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► on airplanes where a lot of times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► airplane Wi-Fi providers will throttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► or block certain things or they'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► they'll do creepy things like recompress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► images down to lower lower sizes and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► your friend or do something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► requires you to not have your images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► recompress like if you're doing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► development or something that might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► in your way so you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► oftentimes they will allow you to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► around those restrictions even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► you're like at a hotel or something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► on some kind of like large public Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► network like an airport or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► a lot of times they will use different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► traffic prioritization schemes to D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► prioritize or limit certain types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► traffic that might get in your way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► what you know if you're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► trying to download something off of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► CDN or if you're trying to watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► youtube video or something that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► get throttled or blocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► Hotel or Airport if you download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► directly but if you go through a VPN it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► might not be so like there it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► gives you more flexibility and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► options to have this tool at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► disposal if you're out and about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► yeah some people use it just to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► different route like if you're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► trouble reaching a server and connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► your VPN because then your traffic will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► go through the VPN which may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► geographically located in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► totally changes your route to that host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► and suddenly you can get through to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57 ◼   ► some people have tried this like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► through to the store when ordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► putting their thing on Wi-Fi through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► VPN to have a different route on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► device to see if maybe their CDN comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► up sooner lots of interesting things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► can do to sort of using VPN not for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► primary purpose but merely to just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► a different path to the same destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► all right Eliot George would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► know do you think Apple will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► bring air power to its magic mouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► keyboard so to recap the new iPhones all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► support G a key g-g-gee wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► charging Thank You that's neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► exactly and pizzelle they pronounce they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► support that wireless charging and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► the Apple is announced but not released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► a special mat that will allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► charge your phone your watch and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► ear pods given you spend money on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► special case or get a brand-new set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► air pods all on the same mat because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► currently you can only from most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► these pads you can only charge one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► device at a time and so air power will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► allow you to do if you're super nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► like me that has a watch in air pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► a phone it will let you do all three on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► one pad so it's asking do we think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► Apple will eventually bring air power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► match your mouse and keyboard I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► think so but I can't figure out why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► just doesn't feel to me like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► Apple would do I think they're perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► satisfied with having you periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► charge via the via the lightning cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► even the harpooned turtle that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► Magic Mouse and I don't think they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► like there's really any need to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► or improve that but I don't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► my thoughts Jon they changed her Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► input devices so infrequently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► keyboards changing precluding the mice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► change even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► frequently but all that said I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► mouse is they should do it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► there's a reasonable chance that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► will just because the Harper turtle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► ridiculous and the reason I did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► Arbutin turtle is no other good place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► plug the thing in and the mouse is small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► and easy to pick up and put on a mat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► once a month when you have to recharge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► it it's easier to just see like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► thing pops up to just plop it down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► the thing keyboard would be too awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► like how do you pick up your keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► and like balance it's bigger than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► air power mat you're not gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► mat that's the size of your keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► the keyboard would take up the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► thing and which part of the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► needs to be over the thing it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► like not a good fit the mouse is more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► less the size of a phone I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► would fit perfectly well and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► will solve that harpooned turtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► problems solve they're like where do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► put the charging port problem and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► do have one of those mats there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► reasonable chance that it will be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► desk where your computer is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► that's where you plop your phone when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► you're using the computer so you plop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► your mouse there so I'm I'm semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► optimistic that five years from now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► they finally revise their Mouse again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► that it will have whatever the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► standard of wireless charging is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► it makes sense to me as a product to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► a thing that you put on a mat to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► every once in a while yeah that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► the only thing is that the the lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► method of charging them also provides a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► secondary function which is it pairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► them to the computer like you never have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► to go through bluetooth pairing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► everything all you have to do is plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► them into the lightning cable that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► mention to the computer and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► automatically pairs through the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► which is really nice it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► frequently used for me when my trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► disconnects itself for no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► thanks Sierra and then I have to plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► back in about every two days so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► reconnects itself so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► reasons why you need what the cable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► nice to have besides just charging I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► agree with John that you know the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► doesn't make as much sense on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► trackpad and keyboard where it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► only do they need to be plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► general s often but also you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► use them when they're plugged in so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► you forget to charge a keyboard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► trackpad not that big of a deal just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► plug the cable in and keep working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► whereas you forget to charge the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► you have to literally just stop using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► for a while as it sits there sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► then you go back to your trackpad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► for no reason so not that I'm bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► this to me it's it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► problem to solve on the mouse but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► they just move the port to the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► the mouse and gave us a little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:17 ◼   ► indentation there that would also solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► the problem with lightning port I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► it's the Qi charging makes is less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► necessary and is less compelling for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► device that you only have to charge once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► a month for a little while you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► it makes a lot more sense on devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► like phones where you are using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► constantly and they're draining their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36 ◼   ► batteries constantly and then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► night or even throughout the day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► need to be topped off they need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► recharged that's not really the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► these with these peripherals so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► I can't really see them doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► necessarily they really need a dizzily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► to solve you're just connecting problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► like you know the equivalent or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► the identical you think the w1 chip like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► this the fact that you can plug it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► parity is great because it gets you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► of the whole Bluetooth device pairing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► game like this I'd circumvented it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► a hardwired connection but also on air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► pods there you know they have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► pairing mechanism yes they are positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► bluetooth but the whole w1 thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► experience of opening a little container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► and switching easily from device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► device and all that stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► experience would help you presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► work around OS bugs when your trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► disconnects without having to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► plug in a cable and so you know wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► everything for devices that are small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► and handheld I think is a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► future and like they revised their mice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► so infrequently that by the time they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► all the stuff should be more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► lower power cheaper and just sort of be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► table stakes for any portable thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► has batteries it presumably will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► less common to have to keep plugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► these things in and have to have ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50 ◼   ► on them and have to deal with connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► it'll just be like put it down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► pad and let it go so why don't you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► the next task ATP which I know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► already hit three but I'm bothered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► you not liking this question and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► willing to give Marco the editing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► to clean this up because you're so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► it reads how would you define quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► - the metal quote - non nerds and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15 ◼   ► have a favorite non-computer analogical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► use for the saying and and all I feel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► that a word I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► looks terror in and and it's prefixed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► italics I don't like this question so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► asked in slack earlier John why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► you like this question the response I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► got was as follows many reasons I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► busy and we have time to type a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► thing I pad I got type a big answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► you on my iPad so what the hell's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► with this is a perfectly reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► quality you don't have a smart Keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► on an iPad no that's it I know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► know you're missing out the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► use an iPad pro is with a key with smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► Keyboard it's so good I don't type I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► just reading the web and browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► Twitter and watching YouTube I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► typing things yeah because it's sucks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► type on the screen but if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► keyboard start typing on it I wouldn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► laptop we get a laptop but I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► laptops oh I don't have a laptop except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► your work laptop no choice right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► like that one either anyway what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► hell's wrong with this question my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► assumption is that they're asking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► because of the Merlin many years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► troll gag of trying to say you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► that close to the metal he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► riffing on something that we said in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► early tech podcast that he reframed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► and you know I don't know if close the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:38 ◼   ► metal was something we said or was close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► to something we said but he catched he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► latched on to it is like a catchphrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► and sort of a nonsense thing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► it's a it's a multi-layered multi-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► old gag that has lost all meaning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► never really did have a meaning it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57 ◼   ► like his returning null thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► that's it's it's not it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► like an honest question because what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► would you define why would you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► yourself needing to define close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► metal unless they also listened to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► bunch of podcasts with me and Marilyn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► for years and years to understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► this gag is about in which case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:13 ◼   ► would never need to define it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► there's context that's missing here what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► is the why does this come up why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► saying close to the metal to anyone why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► do you feel like you have to explain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► why is it an important thing for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► you understand it are you asking me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► explain it to you or do you just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► you think you understand it but you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► me to tell you how to explain it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:31 ◼   ► someone else who doesn't care about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► it's a bad question that's why we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► answering it are you serious same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► I've ever heard maybe you guys don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► have that same context and maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► I'm wrong and this person also has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► idea what I'm talking about and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► just like I've just heard close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► middle line I wanted to know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► mean do I know what I mean but I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► explain to other people maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► perfectly honest but I didn't interpret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► it that way how would you define quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► close to the metal quote to non nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► okay that was literally verbatim the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► question how in the name of Zeus's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► butthole did you get that much context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04 ◼   ► from that little tank maybe you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► have that context but if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► listened to tons of podcasts with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► Marlon and knew and remembered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► origins of this whole gag you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► the same context as I do that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► don't like the question I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► stupefied right now I I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► words coming out of your mouth but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► you concluded from how would you define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► close to the metal to non nerds how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:30 ◼   ► did you come to that conclusion because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32 ◼   ► the only reason they're staying close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► the metal is because like I mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► I'm assuming you're right but but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► it's too much a coincidence Marco who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► actually listens to podcasts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► Marilyn is on and I am on and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► remembers this more better than most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► us you know what I'm talking about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► I don't think so well forget it forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► aside whether you like the question you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► know that you know the origin supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52 ◼   ► to the metal thing right in computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► terms I know what it means I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► you don't you don't know that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► Murrell and podcast access of this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► I've forgotten it I mean well maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► just me but anyway that was that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► interpretation and my guess is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► person asking this question also knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► what I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► even if nobody else does I bet you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► you are 100% wrong on this anyway yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► you can see why I didn't want to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► type that so can we answer this without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► all of that completely bananas you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► abstaining from this no no listen listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► if you why what is the non John Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► related context for asking this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► do you think close to the metal is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► phrase that needs to be explained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► to other people does it come up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► conversation why would anyone why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► anyone say this and be disappointed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► someone didn't understand it to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► yet not know how to explain it to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► like what why is this a legit question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51 ◼   ► in any way independent of any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► stuff who knows why are you judging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► whether or not Jonathan bowling has used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► the phrase close to the metal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► conversation that's not up to you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► not the boss of him it's not a like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► could say how would you define you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► like a slippery is a banana peel to non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► nerds do you have a favorite analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► used to explain it's like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► gonna calm a phrase you know yes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► peels are slippery but as slippery as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► banana peel is not a thing that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► say so why would I have to explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► you how I explain to other people it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► just doesn't come up like it's arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► to arbitrary have you ever like had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► explain to anyone said that anyone win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► I'm sure I have oh my god I'm sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► have at some point because there's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► difference to answer the question see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► I'm gonna sneak the answer in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:39 ◼   ► there's no way this is the show this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► the chat room this is what the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► you get for there is no way this makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► the Edit you get fish and you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► the answer to the question which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► Jonathan will never hear is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► something he already knows no he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► maybe he does but you just know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02 ◼   ► describe it in a simple way all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► oh my god I'm so angry you right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► because you are putting this poor man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► a context that I don't think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► putting him in a box John you're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► them in a box anyway the answer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► question is there there my answer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► question which John will then refute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► be angry with is that there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► different kinds of computer languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► programming languages and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► are literal direct translations to ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► and zeros that are run on the CPU in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► question and most of them are not and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► you get more and more current most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► these languages have many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39 ◼   ► abstractions that they're built upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► that get you further and further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► further away from from ones and zeros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► that are run on the CPU and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► you're close to the metal you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► something that is either directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51 ◼   ► translatable to ones and zeros or as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► very very very close to directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► translatable as opposed to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► like say Swift or PHP or certainly Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:01 ◼   ► which is built on so many abstractions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► it's almost hilarious that any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► actually works and so you know the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► that the three of us work in day to day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► is nowhere close to the metal there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► abstractions upon abstractions upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15 ◼   ► abstraction upon abstraction xand and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► many it's a it's a layer cake just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► layers all the way down and thus that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22 ◼   ► what when somebody says close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► metal it means you're working in a snit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26 ◼   ► in a situation where you are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► using a tool chain that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► difficult to work in because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► talking you it's more about talking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► computers language than it is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36 ◼   ► about human language you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► said when you said I bet John's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► have complaints about my description I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► thinking to myself oh sure it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► but then as you got further into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► isolation I was like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► would explain that differently so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► we go you're right of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:54 ◼   ► why would you even think that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► have it you know I'm not gonna have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► objections your explanation but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► it's like no no I wouldn't say it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► way no no anyway do you know you exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► so how would you explain it then King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► already knows what it means no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► doesn't need to explain it to non nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:21 ◼   ► that's it I'm tweeting right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► tweeting it Jonathan bowling and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► gonna fly this right this says sleep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► probably is but how do you what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► Jonathan balling legit needs an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► explanation he mail me and I will email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► him if you can give me a a so handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► you're gonna complain about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► explanation and you're not even going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► actually give your own explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► it's hot it's hard to explain but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► don't think it's pronounced siracusa I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► don't think Marco you're like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► only few people in the world to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► pronounce my last name correctly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► enjoy that hard so really you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► gonna answer the question no it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► like it was its nitpicking like I'm what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► you said is perfectly adequate and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► would have to know why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► don't I would never say close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► metal to non nerds and expect them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► understand what I was saying like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► use jargon techno jargon was someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► you know is not going to understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► like you think I'm throwing a destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16 ◼   ► jargon and regular conversations people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► expect them to follow along no would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► even know oh my gosh I cannot believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► here you're gonna complain and moan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► about my about my description and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:32 ◼   ► not actually I said you were right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► said you were right and that I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36 ◼   ► would wouldn't have any objections to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► but in the end I did this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► preposterous I'm so angry at you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► now anyway the main reason why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► shouldn't go in the show is stealing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► three questions who define that as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► rule go find that recording of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQx8TgQ/4310">TS</a>]