00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► brought to you in part by our X bar our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► talking it's simply like eating three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/6">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► egg whites two dates and six almonds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/7">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► visiting our X bar comm /ro TL and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/12">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► Mack Weldon Mack Weldon is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► whatever you're wearing right now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► find out why go and visit Mack Weldon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/21">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► hello yeah hi John hi Merlin how's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/29">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► yeah it's fall now bald autumn also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/47">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► pumpkins pumpkins everywhere as the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► goes gourds gourds gourds just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► sitting here just sitting here I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that's the end the end well you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► don't like to talk about the show on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► everything that's in the show is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► computer I am I'm in my new old room in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► bedroom my new old studio room you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► kidding in my new old computer which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► just two minutes ago set up for this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/88">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► I've got a there's a little bit of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► awkwardness because I've got a table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► the table is not big enough for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► computer table no I mean it's a table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► but it's what's why it's it's long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► it's not wide and it's it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► it's not big enough but if I put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► the table then I can't see pass to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► computer it would just be me and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► computer and so I got a little table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► like a like a little cocktail table then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► I put on the side of the big table to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► put the monitor so that I can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► look down sort of like sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► okay so your your big cpu iMac unit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► on the secondary table it's on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► right and then on the on the table is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► only the wireless Logitech sunshine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► powered keyboard that you turn me on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► but the problem is I don't like using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► I just don't like it I didn't feel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► to you know I just feel like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► offense to nature mm-hmm we get Wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► Keyboard is just as God intended but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► wireless mouse it's not really a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► anymore no it's like in the analogy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► mean part of what made it a mouse is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► had a little tail on it thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► it's like a farmer's wife cut off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► tails with a carving knife which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► pretty brutal oh no I can't unsee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► so I like a wired mouse but the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► with that is yeah I also don't want an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► offshore mouse mm like a mouse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► looks like it was made for a PC oh oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/192">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► this might be a little bit of Mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► racism but I don't want a Logitech mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► I don't want a mouse that's got lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► buttons I don't like a mouse with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► spinner ball you would not like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► Logitech mouse because even though it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► a baller Mouse yeah it really it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► looks like Ed Begley Jr designed a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► car yeah I don't want to mount that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► where it looks like I'm at a nail salon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► getting you know lifelike manicure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► don't want a mouse that looks like a koi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/230">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► gentleman's mouse and I have a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► Apple Mouse that I like that came with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► some ancient computer it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► basically clear plastic it probably came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► with a with one of those apples that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► like like colored and looked like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► gumdrop at we say african-american now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► what was that I just sent you my mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► you can see the Ed Begley Mouse all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► right let me see this mouse here I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► looking at it oh my goodness yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► going on with that mouse it's got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► yeah it's got a lot of affordances on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► so I was looking online at mice and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► saw that a mouse touted somewhere the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/273">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► inflator the MX master is it go to Mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► it's like what abomination is that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► it's really ugly uh so anyway but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/283">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► which is which is clear like crystal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► only has far as I can tell it only does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► one thing just it just moves well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► does two things it moves around and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► clicks it has one way of clicking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► on a USB cord that is very short it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► it's not meant to be strung around it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► not probably not meant to go all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► to a side table right and my side table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► is on the left for not for ergonomic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► bull's your righty and I'm a righty so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► want my mouse to stretch all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► over to the other side of the big table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► and so I went on a quest for a extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/325">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► USB cable female-to-male on one end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/330">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► bail to be me on the other and as God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► intended that's God intended and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► that's right I God didn't make Adam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/341">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► so in my house as you probably know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► there are 40 bins full of power cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► quarter inch cables XLR cables those old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► 13 USB cables you see a couple of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► oh yeah do I have have some blackberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► power cables I have a lot of cables from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► I have printer cables I have wall warts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► manufactured by any manufacturer I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► Radio Shack equipment dating back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► 50s I could like I could make crystal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/384">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► radio set out of the cables I have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► so I'm like I will not go to the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► or log on to Amazon for this simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► cable I will find it in my archives my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► cable calves and I spent the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► of the man-hours that they used to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► the Panama Canal looking for what seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► to me to be a simple cable that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► to it if there's got to be one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► around and there is not it never is I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► got things from the 90s I've got five of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► something from the 90s and I've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► one of those in the entire edifice and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► can never find it I think it's red I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► think it's it's a very important cable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/434">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► have a million USB on one side firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► on the other side yeah I don't know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► they made you change on remember they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► made you change from the dirty pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► USB adapter nobody had to get all new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► cables oh yeah he had to get an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► set cuz you go to different places you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► remember that I remember your about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► frustrating that was it was frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► yeah well so I went on Amazon and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► like okay fine I'm defeated like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► like every time we go to Amazon it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► like fine you got me again you got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► Bezos go ahead and you know go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► take my money build another magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► dirigible that you won't even show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► rest of us he's laughing all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► he's flying around in dirigibles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► they have cloaking devices he's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► no we can't even came and see what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► showing off if I were listen I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► if I were yeah Elon Musk enough times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► that there ought to be an acronym for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► mmm-hmm III II M or om um which it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/493">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► original I would have had a dirigible a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► long time ago but not just a dirigible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► would have done a scale not a scale I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► would have done a to scale reproduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► of the Hindenburg - the swastika decked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► it out even nicer you know just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► decked it out really nicely would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► have liked tea service and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► white glove service and then here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► thing I wouldn't use it to go places I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► would just Park it off the coast and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► would be my apartment oh he'll be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► tree house without a tree yeah it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► just sky so disgusting does Elan live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► San Francisco or LA or somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► else I you know what I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► answer to that it's gonna drive our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► listeners nuts but I feel like he must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► well I'm sure he has more than one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► well I'm not sure I one imagines he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► more than one home I'll bet he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► something in Silicon Valley right um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► he's got something where he lives in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/565">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► actually I started thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► not connected to Elon who obviously has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► enough you know he's building a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► high-speed train to space so he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► busy I thought about this when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► interacting with the orbit of that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► preppy bro that started snapchat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► rich young kid with a rich lawyer dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► who's like just sort of a beach bum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► starts this thing now he's got a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► dollars in and he's and something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► hundred thousand pairs of glasses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► he can't but he did a smart thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► his money I thought which was he bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► up the entire town of Venice California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► now even if his company tanks at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► he has all his real estate I mean he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► become he became the biggest real estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► company that true Santa Monica he owns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► so much land he bought Santa Monica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► Airport it's the only true wealth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► so he just was you know like like rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► than then just keep that money in sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► football teams like Paul Allen oh Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► Allen also bought a bunch of real estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► I mean real estate but so he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► he's doing that thing of like young tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► billionaire he's doing a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► smarter cuz he's buying real estate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► I'm sure he's rolling around Venice on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► unicycle with six armed guards also on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► unicycles I was like why wouldn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► kid buy have a Hindenburg bill for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► himself park it right above and slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► off the coast of Venice and just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► there all day with those engines just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► relaxing how relaxing it would be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► like if you need to go somewhere maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► you want to get a bite it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► you don't have on the dirigible you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► to go to like in and out or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► you just slowly lower it down that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► something to do in downtown LA and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► would just like slow because I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/689">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► I've always loved forts I've over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► life I have created so many secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► hideouts for myself there's a time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► junior high when I almost lived in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► crawlspace where I'd like I had a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► like environment up there that I created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► you know to get your best what was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► best secret for man that was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► well no it's okay it can be revealed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► it's been unsealed but like circa eighth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► grade when I was really at peak weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► at some point we gotten you get you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► a they you'll really call it an attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► you call it a crawlspace and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► usually accessible via in Florida you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► don't have basements it's accessible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► the garage there's usually like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► door you move you get a ladder you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► this door aside and you can go up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► and put your Christmas shit up there um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► and I'm not sure why this happened maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► we had a credit card with Sears we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► started getting lots of Sears things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► had Sears come out and install those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► it's like a door you pull down a handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► and then folding steps come down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► know and you walk up you ascend up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► there and I had made that has got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► up there for me excluding certain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► you know point of forts in the woods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► stuff like that that if to have that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► house like nearby to have someplace you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► could go that was in your house but away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► from your house it was like finding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► if felt totally underutilized to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► ornaments up here like you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► could bring choose your own adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► books and a 16-ounce bottle of coke up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► there it had a floor and and the wreath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► it kind of had a floor mostly had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► pink itchy insulation the dry beans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► that's sort of one reason you would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► but you know bears the other thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► when you're in eighth grade and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► coke and potato chips in a choose your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► relatively unlimited time especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► you don't do homework so you can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► you can really plunge a resource I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► just thinking like you know if you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► if you took that mindset with the budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► of a Zeppelin well sure but I'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► about this space did you put in a floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► or what what what did you stand I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► remember what I did because you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► weren't supposed to be up there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► troubled my family that I went up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► I wasn't doing anything like dad I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► didn't want to be around people I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► I think I would bring up a portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► radio and then I would have had a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► bookshelf I put up there with my books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► and I just mostly go up there just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► myself and listen to key 1:05 and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► see I want to say that I put down boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► but I can't imagine I had the upper-body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► strength to move boards up steps I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► probably put down like a cardboard box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► or fashion in their sets chair between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► the beams of the house there was a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► was an apartment building here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► Seattle where a bunch of I used to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► in a punk rock pizza parlor and a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► of the pizza parlor people all moved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► together into one sort of rickety old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► janky apartment building was it called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► squat yeah well they were paying rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► okay okay and it was one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► belonged to the responsible girl who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► kind of the assistant manager and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► the next bedroom belonged to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► the girl that worked hard and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► next bedroom was so late lazy girl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► her like like her incompetent friends no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► and then like there was a actual stair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/900">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► like a finished stair up to an attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► which was unfinished and had just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► floor it just had had like you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► insulation but it was a proper stair up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► there and so a couple of the dudes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► the pizza parlor went in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► showed all this ingenuity and and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► all this effort and money into buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► wood nailing it down and building a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/932">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► a building where I think the rent for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► the whole thing was probably $400 Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► and then all of a sudden they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► built this like because it was an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► building so you could stand up up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► it was it was a big big attic space it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► was a proper not just bedroom it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► it was the whole top of the building Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► what it was a flat and they had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► incredible loft up there which they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/961">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► constructed out of the air as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► could tell and I think the arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► was that they pay you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► how much rent they paid because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► invented the room but you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► such a step up from my thing which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► like hey is anybody sleeping on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► that I just I was I was in awe of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► then I'm probably you know I'm glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► have you a little bit out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► well they were glad to have them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► none of them wanted me there after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► very short period of time and and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► and that was that was that how a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► or a set of a set of people that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► that was a time when I was behaving just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► shamefully and so even when I think back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► at it what should be wonderful memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► of my like mid to late drug period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► they're awful memories and when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► building eventually was torn down by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► giant collection of backhoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► bulldozers and replaced with a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► skeezy new condo eight story tall new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► condo I rejoiced a little because it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► because some of my bad memories were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► yeah but I'm with you about the fort's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► promise we didn't have none of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► anywhere no good forts you know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► like part of it is I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► there's this one thing where like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► count you know being 14 is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► still being a kid but you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► you're a kid especially when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► little kid you're small you can fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► under the sink you could go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► credenza there's this there's a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► appeal to like I wonder if I could fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► into that you know what I mean and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► then you see these photographs of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► apartments in Hong Kong I don't feel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► ever seen any of those photos of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► inside of apartments in Hong Kong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► they're just they're crazy I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► they're like a little bigger than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► an airport bathroom and a family lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► in them and it's just completely crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► what people fit into these I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► there's something very appealing to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► certain kind of introvert weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► personality about having a hidey-hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► well all I ever wanted was a secret room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► and I freaking I was talking to but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► was a friend who was having a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► built oh oh I know who was it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► good friend Matt Dresner former bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► he had he has just rebuilt his house it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► was you know it was a did a sort of gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► renovation of it and of course the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► question I asked was well did you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► and on the face of it his denial that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► had a secret room built is the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► move right if I did I couldn't tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► it's right you're not gonna say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► yeah I want to know where the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► room is it's behind the painting where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► the wall safe is like you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► reveal it to just any you know defeat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► purpose yeah but I could tell in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► reply that he he didn't have a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► room built because what he said was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► talked to the contractor about a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► room and it ended up that the bid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► build a secret room would have been was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► prohibitively expensive I'll bet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► I'll bet they know we got a loved one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► right yeah this I see this guy coming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► mile off he's gonna want a hidey hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► alright look at or a hidden staircase or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► all those all those yeah I'm like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► okay so the I feel like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► hierarchy of these things we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► about the monk hole I think having a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► to get out of your house and move a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► per say it's just a smart idea yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► right every house every house has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► have two means of egress like in case on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► fire right you got to have way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► out that just makes sense tunnel to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► back nine to the back nine but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► I mean don't you need an existencial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► means if aggress what if you just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► to get away from you what if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► need to be somewhere so I think you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► it you get among coal and that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► a very modest Montcoal but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► have to be like a full-on like hallway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► like a James Bond hallway although that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► would be really nice that would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► then you get I think you can think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► again this is not as spectacular but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► certainly like hidden panels like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► the first thing you do in D&D you go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► a room and you search for like doors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► panels right yeah someplace where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► could put stuff I think a secret hallway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► feels like a really smart grown-up thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► to put in your house a waiting made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► there that's just for you is a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► good idea my aunt my aunt's beach house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► the entire inside of the house and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► talking about walls and ceiling was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► painted beadboard and it's a style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► Oregon beach house that I think is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► an imitation of a style of Cape Cod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► beach house except because it was Oregon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► you like Oregon in the in 1890 really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► wanted to be Cape Cod in 1790 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► they they built like whole communities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► including the little town of gearheart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► Oregon in imitation of this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► cedar shingles and and this though but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► the thing about Cape Cod and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► think a lot of people know this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► their beach houses of the East Coast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► vacation homes of the East Coast often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► not even beach ones but like up in Maine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► and out on the coast a lot of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► uninsulated like it's just the out walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► and then the the beams you know though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► yeah I've made a lot of vacation homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► essentially like a hovel uh-huh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► just a fucking missiles almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► when you look at these on Cape Cod from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► outside they're three storeys tall they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► look like beautiful elegant homes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► just that the inside isn't done and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► and because what they do is that the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► of the season the last day of summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► they lock the door and they don't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► back until May or June and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► crazy to me and from the Northwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► perspective it's never consistently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► weather is never consistent enough here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► that you would build a house like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► I mean we don't have air conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► anywhere but we certainly do put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► insulation in things so the oregon beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► house has insulated walls but beadboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► floor-to-ceiling and also the ceiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► and in this house it was painted kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► dark green the beadboard was dark green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► upstairs the beadboard was all painted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► bright and cheery cream yellow mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► but what it meant was because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► beadboard is just panels they had a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► different places where if you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► pressed on the wall it would go pump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► you just wall would just open oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► and that's where their liquor cabinet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► was oh my god behind a wall next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► fireplace if you just like leaned on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► it would go and then the wall opened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it was full of booze yeah like her hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► but the the problem was over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► of 50 years of living there they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► was a popular place and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► spot where you get wear and tear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► give 10,000 hands and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► basically like a like a brat like sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► of a gray hand shaped stain in the paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► yeah that's bad OPSEC yeah exactly so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► mean I think you also if you're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► it that way you also have to carry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► hanky with you okay well it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► like a hankie on a string well I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► think you're probably establishing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► guidelines for this kind of thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► is that you know have it be commensurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► with how secret you needed to be how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► much it's used uh-huh right so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► the kind of person like we were recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► looking at cap boxes in new litter box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and that you can get some very obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► you can get self-defend a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► some people want a litter box that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► doubles as like an end table or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► well I'm not here to judge but that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► me kind of feels like the worst of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► worlds right but I mean you know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► something where like you wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► your refrigerator to be invisible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► you know that's not hiding anything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► anybody although you do see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► kitchens where you walk in and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► like where's the refrigerator we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► which of these things are doors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► something yeah and it just they made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► look like a cupboard that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► little cute for my liking well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► because what you are you ashamed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► a refrigerator why would you mask it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► yeah it's just it's just nature but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► what I mean so in the hierarchy though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► then so you got you you move up you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► my uncles I know I realize my uncle is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► very ambitious project you probably want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► to undertake from the very design of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► house but like you know a secret panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► you get into like a hidden corridor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► I would call it a corridor but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► secret room it doesn't even need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► really doesn't need to be like a V for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► Vendetta room it doesn't need to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► an entire like like secret den in fact I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► think it'd be less detectable from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► people who are like going and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► your plans right you don't want it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► too detectable there's probably some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► kind of illusion you can use with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► false walls and depths and assumptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► and visual illusions and tricks but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► talking about like a room that's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► enough to have like like like just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► don't know even just like a chair in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► but a place to lay down would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► too the first thing I do when I'm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► space for any length of time as I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► around trying to make sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► physical space as I perceive it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► the way that the space is conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► it's a hundred percent I do the side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► don't talk about it but I do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► thing I learned this in the Amityville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1604">TS</a>]
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00:26:48 ◼ ► could be a secret red room in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► basement that you don't know about until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► it's 3:15 a.m. right right you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► want to know no no no no no alarms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► no surprises I want to know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► dealing with here and so you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► that you know and again to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► another movie you look at the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► watching movie well Rorschach takes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► his tape measure he has an air SATs tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► measure to figure out where the comedian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► is hiding his costume in photos there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► something like that I would take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► hidden panel in my closet I would put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► trophies in my and my pictures of Silk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► Spectre one in there I would totally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► that I well and also who doesn't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► thing where you open a wall and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► full of machine guns machine guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► maybe things you've received from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► mayor I think I've told you before about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► the house in Sun Valley I went to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► my friend Trevor where his uncle after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► we were smoking cigars after our steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► dinner he said you want to see my gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► room and we went upstairs this is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► before gun room was a thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► would go like oh no are you a murderer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► this was back when I was like gun room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► yeah you are it didn't used to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► last thing you'd hear no it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► you're a top shelf gentleman and we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► upstairs and into his bed he had a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► big house in in Sun Valley and we walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► through some door in his closet and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► an entire room a full-on bedroom sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► room full of machine guns oh man and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► wasn't a survivalist or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► eccentric a rich eccentric the trevor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► was like oh that's my that's my uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► you know like it rolled his eyes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► when we can't when we went to Sun Valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► Trevor's here with his friends and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► just like we couldn't pay for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► he treated us like big shots staking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► cigars and he also had a room full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► guns and probably a room full of gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► bars that he didn't show that's what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► showed exactly this episode of Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1725">TS</a>]
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00:29:01 ◼ ► amount of their stuff using my very own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1741">TS</a>]
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00:29:05 ◼ ► Mack Weldon as we speak don't be creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► Mack Weldon makes stuff like shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1747">TS</a>]
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00:29:19 ◼ ► great they look very handsome and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► feel amazing to wear real talk today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► want to talk to you once again about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1764">TS</a>]
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00:29:26 ◼ ► favorite that's that's I have so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► these it's really really weird they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► something called the Pima long sleeve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► I'm not comfortable admitting how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► of these I own but let's just say I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► sacks and stacks of them mini mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► they are literally my daily go-to top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► layer and unless the occasion demands it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► you'll more often than not find me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► one of these boys everyday they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► that's it close I know this sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► a weird one but I love their plain white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► t-shirts it's so hard to find a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► t-shirt that you like they gets so gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► they're so skinny and they get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► balled up and untucked mm-hmm not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► Mack Walden these are Hardy well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► tailored shirts with a nice long tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► keeps it tucked in like you're a big boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► I switch to these last years throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► all my other shirts with the disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► yellow pit stains since then I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► looked back Mac Weldon and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1812">TS</a>]
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00:30:50 ◼ ► shows right that's left the room that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► showed you you know okay now let me ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► you this is it mmm how does one put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► where is the line in deciding what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► offer up to people these RVs showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► things because it seems to me somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► who's offering to show you their secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► things may not be so good at keeping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► secret or do you think it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► false flag operation he's showing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► he's never gonna show you what the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► gun room is my sense of that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► this was in the 1980s my sense of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► is that at the time conspiracy was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► mainstream thing like it wasn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► remember I'm sorry to interrupt you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► I remember very specifically I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► working at my parents restaurant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► there's a guy who pulled me aside he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► a regular customer every Saturday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► and he asked me what I knew about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► Trilateral Commission uh-huh and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► I said can I get you more water and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► Trilateral Commission is and I said I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► not know what the trial omission is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► and this is gonna surprise you but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► length he told me what the Trilateral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► Commission is and now my first my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► hands-on exposure to conspiracy culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► was probably 1979 or 80 I I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► I don't think it became such a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► until maybe even Waco like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► that normal people would look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► something like that and go you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► loon yeah well because because the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► conspiracies all were anti-semitic right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► I mean you were you had to you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► had established yourself if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► talk about the trilateral commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► there was an 80% chance that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► Rothschilds Zionism yeah and in a winky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► winky kind of way okay okay um you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► the protocols of the Elders of Zion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► just like JFK well so that was right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► think JFK was great probably the first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► mean after after it let's be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► after the Judaism issue JFK has got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► be one of the first truly great white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► people conspiracies right where the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► that I mean the CIA the Cubans Lyndon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► Johnson the like the people that managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► Wiggly pigley like everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► involved it's all connected I have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► look at this red yarn but in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► conspiracy a book I read that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► that wasn't like a mainstream conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► was a book called behold the pale horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► oh yeah you've talked about this remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► me about this yeah behold the pale horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► was written by one of these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► probably the same guy that that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► let you finish your busboy rounds cuz he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► wanted to talk about the crisis it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► connected John everything's kind of put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► it but this was the first book I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► that made that argument that it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► connected and it goes down throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► the book and it and it talks about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► the conspiracies the Flat Earth them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► under the under the ice UFO secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► government has have been around for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► while the lizard people yeah it has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► and this guy took it all and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► together you know as he know with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► conspiracy it there only has to be loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► association association it wouldn't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► conspiracy do you know do you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► kind of like self-knowledge and sanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► it takes to take in that much disparate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► information and stay a sane person it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► takes a very strong character trying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► does it does and and it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► yesterday I posted without comment a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► infographics that I found as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► watching the internet go as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► watching it roll on roll on steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► rolling on I found these infographics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► and one of them they were two very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► interesting ones it was just like gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► ownership on one axis to violent deaths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► on another axis by state and by and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► predictable results like the states that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► had more gun ownership had more gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► deaths I know that's a radical I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► you're not even drawing a conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► from it it's just a data all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► the countries that had more guns had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► more gun deaths in them there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► graphic indicating how many good guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► with guns bring up that save rate yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► and it doesn't end it and and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► honest it does not make a distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► and suicide deaths and violent crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► deaths I think it's cause mm-hmm and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► and there was and it was hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► because you know at first of course my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► Twitter followers the initial wave of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► them are like wow you know this should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► this is a wake-up call or you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► was like the the sort of Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► responses that are validating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► amplifying preaching to the choir once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► and then it got into that realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► internet professor oh boy here he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► and the first and and and people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► like I'm not a statistician but I play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► one on TV yeah and I got the first reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► where the reply er used the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► causation and I was like in before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► correlation does not equal causation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► like I wanted to get in before that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► the in the in the 4chan parlance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► law and the the first ones were these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► people that were like interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► and I was like is that feels like a dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► whistle mm-hmm but then out it goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► and pretty soon it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► that has found its way to people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► are that are sitting on their branches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► out in the doubt in the dirt and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► no I made no comments on these graphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and within the graph fix themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► there's no commentary it's just simply a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► line turns out when there's more rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► things get wet that's right it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► the thing and people started arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► they started arguing with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► graphic because they started arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► with the implication that they drew from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► the graphic and gradually little by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► little came this wave of correlation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► and what that is is the that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► one of these things like ad hominem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► attack or straw man fallacy where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► get a term and it's used enough that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► is disseminated out to a group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► that don't really know how to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► but they but now they're employing it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► a way of like like during the during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► last election the number of times I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► even referring to things that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► well that's what you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► actually not I mean it it is a fallacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► it's just not that one but it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► those ones like like the one the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► hit for me is just introducing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► notion of hypocrisy it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► it's in your quiver as one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► things that will just shut down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► conversation and you may understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► the conversation just shut down but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► feel you get to feel like you won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► because you said caught you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► said correlation yeah yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and so that I think came as a result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► people trying to talk to conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► theorists and say well I mean I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► there is some correlation here but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► but it doesn't that doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► conspiracy theorist got that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2342">TS</a>]
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00:39:05 ◼ ► that time I didn't know what that meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2345">TS</a>]
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00:39:11 ◼ ► theorists are using it or or rather all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that like nuts are using it to to argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► with graphs all right argue with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► not just statistic that's the price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► interesting like three hours because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► just press freedom John in order to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► particular reason we need to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► some people are going to die from guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► cuz that's the price of freedom it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► freedom it is the price of freedom well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2379">TS</a>]
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00:39:43 ◼ ► have to remember is people die Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► correlation yeah well things go to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2386">TS</a>]
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00:39:56 ◼ ► kills people so what are you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► Marilyn you're gonna make bullets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► gonna take physics and make it illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2399">TS</a>]
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00:41:05 ◼ ► don't need the additives they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2465">TS</a>]
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00:41:50 ◼ ► to these things and I was very skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2510">TS</a>]
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00:43:06 ◼ ► but I I want to return just for a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► to your search for a cat box yeah have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► you ever I've seen a lot of cat boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► advertised as smell free mm-hmm smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► proof and I've never actually seen a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► box in the wild that was truly smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► self-cleaning cat boxes in the wild but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► they smell like cat boxes yeah do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► know of in all this technology so we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► a man on the moon right we we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► can't put metal in the microwave but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► can't put metal in the microwave also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► microwave cannot cook the center of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► lasagna no matter how long you put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► there that's I have seen that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► that's not correlation that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► oh you guys are you real smart you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► thousand Rams in your computers ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► figure this out but how the fuck do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► cook the inside of a lasagna you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► do it yeah but why has there not why has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► Elon Musk or someone or the poor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► dude bro from snapchat yes why did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► stead of actually inventing a way to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► a cat and not have your house smell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► a cat scene why would anybody spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► money putting in fucking granite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► counters in their kitchen when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► could use that money to make a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► room whoa right oh how about I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► what I want everything in my kitchen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► I don't want doors I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► doors but I can't can't afford a hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► room here's the thing I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► two ways to look at smell at least two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► ways to look at smell in the one way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► one that people think about is ooh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► cat makes a tinkle on a duty in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► right and I don't want to smell it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► right I think that's when most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► talk about that I think that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► mean in our case it's that as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► one does not want to be led around by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► one's cat one's cat decides whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► not that box will accommodate its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► blessing oh and so the other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► smell is it maybe the cat doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► the way that thing smells so although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► frequently changing or you know sifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► out the cat box and nice knock-on effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► of that as your house does not smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► like ammonia as much right the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► thing is you make sure you maintain a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► high level of confidence and dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► with your cat that your cat knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► the he or she or they can go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► box and offer up their blessing in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► that won't be disturbing to them has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► ever occurred to you or does it appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► to you at all to be one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► that teaches their cat to crouched on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► the toilet seat and go to the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► in the toilet I'm intrigued by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► people who do and I've done a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► of scholarship about cat training I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► don't I don't hold that it is impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► is probably difficult but I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► if you're the kind of person that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► wants to train a cat maybe you can or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► more importantly maybe you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► yourself you think the cat if you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► kind of person who wants to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► you've trained a cat yes I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► it's kind of it's a kind of feline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► suggestibility I'm not against it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► I'm not saying it doesn't exist don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► don't email me yeah what we were looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► for was we have an old cat who's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► lot of problems and at one point why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► we do this basically we wanted to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► box that she would enjoy using and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and smell so we've tried some different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► ones now we're gonna get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► letters about this because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► actually plunge a lot of money I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► friends who have the very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► self-cleaning boxes that look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► space capsule uh-huh and you can spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► four figures on something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► those worked there they're useful device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► they think they work they tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► they work but I mean that's a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► trading a cat yeah right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► thing right they try they tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► works but how much how much side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► maintenance are they doing that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► not acknowledged John is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► chance that it could just be cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► correlation cat correlation is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► causation it could be a cat availability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► heuristic right cat confirmation by us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► it could be a cat hominem argument well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► there it is cat confirmation bias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► because there tip so plasma trichinosis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► deposit trichinosis and also yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► know I mean like you know who knows no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► the cat has you convinced and smell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► cat is important right the cat the cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► like you love the smell who's training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► whom maybe it's training less that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► that was one of my favorite or a late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► period or eat the Franklin I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► why we have animals in our house some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► the photographs of these cat boxes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► very very funny just like the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► you get your lamp up on the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► you see this little head sticking out oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► yeah this is my shit box I put a light I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► visited a cat last night oh that I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► after my wonderful cat my beloved cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► Lewis was killed I was despondent and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► friend of mine had a cat that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► this friend of mine was in a love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► relationship with a guy that I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► know them both they're both friends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► mine and it turned out that their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► then they had a baby a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► beautiful baby and then it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► that the guy didn't really want to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► be tied down by a bunch of rules sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► and so we're always trying to tie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► relationship ended and as a parting gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► to kind of like maybe salve the wound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► him just moving into an apartment across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► town and getting a girlfriend he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► them a cat that they didn't want I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► kind of fun it was like a lovely parting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► gift it was sort of like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► brought it home it gave the cat to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► little girl like sweetie I got you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► wonderful gift you take care of this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► yeah and the mom was like we didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► cat yeah and if we had wanted a cat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► wouldn't be that cat we didn't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► to choose the cat and he dropped the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► off and then was never seen again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► definitely a certain kind of genre of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► gift here you have yes yeah and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► not that he was never seen again I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► him all the time it's just that he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► was seen again in the context of the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► this was one of those cats that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► weaned too early it had it's a cat whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► head is too small for its body oh no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► like micro encephalitis of Oh Mike Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► Mike Rowe okay oh no so cephalic did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► was it was just a you know some cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► have proportions like anybody else and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► don't want a body shame this cat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► it's just like him just for you it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► the prettiest cat no no and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► picked it to bring into your home for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► ever this is not a cat I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► picked this is a cat that my mom would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► suggest that you drown in a river she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► from Ohio she has she had 20 cats living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► under the corn crib but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► different thing and so the cat was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► of those cats that if you touched it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► first time it would purr have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► touched it the second time it would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► rub up against your hand I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► touched it the third time it would grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► you in its claws and bite you I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► I'm not a cat psychologist but you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► that comes from the weaning too early it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► sounds like it has trust issues in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► additionally have a tiny tiny head it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► sounds like it's got trust issues cuz Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► a cat is ultimately a wild animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► it wants to be wild that's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► this cat did have trust issues this cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► scavenged by this guy who immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► handed it over to a one and a half year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► old and they start and and a woman that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► didn't want it there but I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► already this way so the cat stayed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► them for a while at this point we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► evidence no no he left a cat into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► house like dropped it off and said here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► this is me now no no I mean I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► sees her on Wednesdays and Sundays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► what's the cat I sleep and and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► progressive people these are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► friends of mine and progressive people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► and they were one of the they were one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► of the parents's who taught their pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► verbal child sign language oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► because of the you know because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► understanding that child can communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► before they can talk and so they taught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► the the baby how to sign like hungry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► tired and stopped sending to me mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► like you know you're not the boss of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► and whatever else and so the mom my pal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► came into the room one time to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► cat like claws in each side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► baby's head like like cat biting the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► baby's pate made the baby into prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► while the baby was signing frantically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► no I hate that image it's terrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► stuff cuz the cat didn't speak baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► silent hitch the cat did not speak baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► silent they should see they should've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► thought the big cat sign language well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► this is the thing they taught the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► sign language they didn't I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► communicate to the baby that she needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► to be looking at someone while signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► and so that they could see her she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► talking to herself with her hands yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► she was talking to them to the walls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► so the mom immediately called me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► said we need your help and that help is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► get this cat out of here can't do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► extraction and I said I'll be there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► and so I came over with a cat extraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► that's right it was it was like a Geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► Squad actually doesn't yeah I showed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► with a cardboard box and a roll of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► masking sitting by the front door for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► other reasons I was like okay I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► this box in this roll of masking tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► so I show up over there and here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► cat who now just seems demure and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► the baby the cat doesn't know it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► we put that on the cat cat spine and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► know I am a cat whisperer that's why she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► and so I'm there and and I do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► that a cat whisperer does which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► approach the cat you just sit and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► making Pleasant chitchat with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► the other humans let the cat find you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► the cat's gonna find you cats not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► unaware that you're there it's curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► it just means it's time so I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► to the to the grown-up and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► interacting with the child and they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► have a look of desperation in their eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► like like a Stockholm Syndrome situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► like everything's fine everything's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► but there there's eyeballing me well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► their adrenaline let's just be pumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► yeah when are you gonna get this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► monster out of here right and I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► know I'm like I'm like the bus driver in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► in the spill Justin Hoffman movie one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► day but no the one who walks around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► streets shouting Attica Attica oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► Dog Day Afternoon I'm like the I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► the cop bus driver that that fooled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► audience in the big twist at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► the movie when I see so spoiler alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► I'm the sleeper cell or something you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► at least in disguise so but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► your kind of training that like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► to come in and play it off legit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► only way to make friends with a cat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► to not pay attention to the cat that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► right and so the cat eventually finds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► and I pick the cat up and the cat is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► know the cat gives me two three paths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► biting me and climbing me mm-hmm but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► a way that it thinks is fun and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► you know Kitty I've been clawed by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► bigger cats than you and I gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► just maintaining friendly eye contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► with my friend and her daughter I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► I put the cat in the box now you me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► simple did you scoop it did you did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► grab it by the by the scrub I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► had the cat in in my lap you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► like a Blofeld pet yeah and then the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► a Blofeld pet that's attacking you okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► I put the cat in the box now the cat did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► not expect the box the cat never expects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► the box if you leave a box out a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► but the cat expects that box mm-hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► if you go if you try and approach that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► box with the cat in it and like close up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► the box it depends on the cat yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► that's gonna sometimes but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► instance it was like hey cat why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► you go in this box for a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► put the cat in the box and then I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► to seal the box with masking tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► loosely right but standard cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► Amazon stop box with four flaps that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► right oh boy now I don't know if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► ever tried to seal a cat in oh yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► cat was not into it and masking tape is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► not sufficient you know you you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► really truly ready for a motivated cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► that's right that's right it was the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► unpredictable the best you can do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► like like a blanket party the best you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► can do is like basically throw it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► sack which I've done I have thrown a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► in a sack it's yeah as you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► really like overwhelm the cat so quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► that there's no part of their body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► they're like yeah like any kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► pest if they can get their head out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► whole body will come out that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► what I get for flaps down and tape it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► was very hard and I'm God I mean I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► a thread on Quora the other day where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► some European smartypants was like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► and then of course there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► predictable answer from a bunch of cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► but what is correlation yeah one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► cops was like I'd like to propose a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► thought experiment why don't you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► wherever you are and find the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► person you know just the one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► think is like the smallest least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► physically imposing person you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► try to put handcuffs on them if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► don't want you to yeah what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► neither one did you get hurt I challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► you go do it now find the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► person I mean that's not a child the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► smallest adult person you and try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► put handcuffs on it you say go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► apprehend a twink we go well now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► not a word we can use it I use that word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► anymore I can't say it because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► part okay okay let's say you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► get this cat in the box I put enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► masking tape over it that it is just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► initial level and I mean I was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► out of the crack well at the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► I think I had successfully convinced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► cat it was a game but then I picked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► avoir to my friends as I'm hustling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► the door with the cat in the box and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► and nothing to lose he's trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► sure and once we get outside I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► want to let the cat out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► outside cuz it's not an outside cat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► I'm on my way to the car and I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► to keep the cat immediately has nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► paws right like how are how are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► these paws getting out of this box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► there's like I can count nine paws as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► it's just thrashing and roaring well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► get it to get it to my car and I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► cat in the car and then I don't care if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► it gets out of the box because the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► is a contained environment all I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► do is get the cat in the box one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► I get it in the car I take it and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► in the car okay and she puts a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► cat accoutrement in the trunk and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► so grateful she's like thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► collects all the cats things all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► cats luggage in the trunk can I go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► the cat is walking around my car roaring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I'm only grateful that it is a girl cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► because she's not like pissing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► everything in that kind of fury piss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► that only a cat can do like a dog does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► defensive spray or a scared spray we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► scared spray right I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► that's what a cat does when it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► threatened but a cat's an asshole right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► cuz they're all assholes it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► threatened just because you're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► put it in a car in a box covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► masking tape anyway I get it home and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► get the cat in the in the house and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► cat and I began to live together well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► so the cat is named Lucy and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► never separate the cat's name from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► Lucile Van Pelt's because they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► have the same personality the cat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► deceptive the cat is like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► it's one of those cats where you wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► in the morning you stumble down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► stairs pour yourself a cup of ambition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► yawn stretch try to you know come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► life and this cat leaps out from behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► leaps out from its secret room which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► weren't even aware existed and claws the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► shit out of your ankles while you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► ready and now you're in a Clouseau and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► Kato type situation it's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► where the cat the cat thinks that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► funny to come attack you and then rage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► off into the night and so you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► walking around the house with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► ankles and wrists are are always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► covered with scratches and you have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► mean I had cat scratch fever the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► time cat scratch fever it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► Wango Tango it's a great riff dude that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► is a really good riff so eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► didn't scratched by Kate oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► Lucy Lucy cat she lived here for about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► six months I was like Lucy I just I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► just isn't going anywhere like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► falling in love with you I mean I fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► in love with Lois the day he showed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► I'm not bonding with you sweetheart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► mm-hmm and I said you're gonna go live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► on a farm and in this case on the farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► the farm is my mom's house oh I see it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► it's a metaphorical metaphorical form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► that's right because my mom had 20 cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► living under the corn crib and only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► of them had names she knows what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► she's not gonna train you to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► bathroom in a toilet she just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► mm-hmm and that like lack of care kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► of extends in all directions so the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► went to live with my mom and my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► fine she was fine the cat was fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► think the I think Lucy understood as all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► animals do that you do not jump out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► behind a piece of furniture and claw my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► mom now boy we do it once it's not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► one time buddy we had a cat that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► not enter the living room I knew better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► it knew better than to go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► living room and we would all be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► living room with the doors wide open on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► both sides and the cat would would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► to the threshold of the living room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► sit now if you can train a cat to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► that I will put in with you you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► train a cat to do it unless you are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► mom and she never hit this is also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► important distinction though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► training is man I'm gonna get a book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► I'm gonna get an audio book and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► gonna watch some YouTube videos and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► gonna train my cat or you could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► kind of person who throws a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► shape where the cat just learns how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► stay alive yeah the cat was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► entering that room puts me at risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► somehow I don't get my mind right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► psionic risk mm-hmm because the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► there the woman what that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► vibrating in colors that only I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► the woman that is making that is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► sonic spectrum that no human can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► she comes in colors everywhere yeah she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► will send mind lightning now huh if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► walk across the threshold so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► want that sadness that's a good word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► it yeah so and my mom uses psyonix all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► the time she uses it on like I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► seen her in months and I get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► psionics yeah well she's she walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► around and like um you know like bad men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► on the sidewalk in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► night we'll kind of step to the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► take their head their their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► balaclavas off on their way to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► their appointment robbing stores milady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► yeah she does it but she eventually said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► there's no there is no magic to this cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► mm and if I'm gonna feed and clothe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► worker I would like that worker to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► working in the mind and a cat has a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► yeah and this cat is not performing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► to the standards of employment here well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► right about that time Erik Corson bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► player of the long winters was spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► a lot of time at the house because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► had built a studio in our Munk hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► the basement of her house we had a rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► and roll monk hole down in the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► no one down by your racks of glasses yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► yeah down there we call it the Red Room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► but it was only because it had I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► chosen for it bright red carpet but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► room itself was painted gunmetal grey so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► it was already it was already creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► like disturbance in you even as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► walked through the door like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► alert alert alert monk home uncle Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► loved it down there and he he and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► spending a bunch of time down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► recording tambourine tracks on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► unreleased forth long winter's records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► months and months anyway Eric and Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► saw each other across a crowded dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► floor and moved through the crowd toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► one another and met in the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► were never to be apart and Lucy now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► ten years later lives happily with Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► Carson in his house in white center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► Seattle and Eric thinks about her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► she thinks about him every minute of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► their lives and he and every morning he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► wakes up and stumbles to the kitchen she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► attacks him and shreds his ankles and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► considers it the ultimate gesture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► love and he grabs her and goes oh do do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► pooty doo doo doo dee and she bites him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► in shreds him and he goes Dora burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► googoo gaagaa and she loves him I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► never seen an animal love a person so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► malfeasant aggression no that's how she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► do this is just a weaning thing she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► so important didn't get enough time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► her mom so I'm interacting with Lucy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► the time because I've been over Eric's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► house oh really and you know glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► hear that yeah it's fun oh it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► um and my impression of I mean I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► interactions with a hard-boiled egg that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► differently now I mean now that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Lucy in an accommodating environment you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► see the cat differently well when I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► into her eyes deep into her eyes tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► little head I see into infinity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► between her eyes and infinity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► isn't anything it just goes and goes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► I don't know why I think that is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► the infinity in there okay and it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► that I don't see it because it's smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► than the space that it's meant to occupy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► it's kind of like maybe it's down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► bottom and I can't quite see it okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► she and Eric understand each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► perfectly and watching her be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► house cat and a good studio cat and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► a constant companion and friend she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and Eric play this game you know he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► one of those walk around houses where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► you walk into the kitchen then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► go down the hall and you come back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► the living room and you know you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► around in a circle oh that's a nice plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► they play a game like it like an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► and a toddler where she follows him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► around the ceramics the Eric see adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► Eric's the adult in this case okay she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► or or actually depending you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► depends on who how old the toddler isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► who who's in charge of the games but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► he'll he'll go around he'll sneak around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► until she's like where'd he go and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► she turns around and goes the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► and then he turns around it goes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► other way and they'll sit in the living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► room and watch them play this game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► they're both having the time of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► life um and they're you know and Eric's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► like where'd he go wait oh wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► she's like looking around this corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► look out and then she's like I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► get him this time and goes this way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► I feel like this is a YouTube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► that like that they just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► discovered yet I mean it so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► could be a YouTube channel that had 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► million views yeah oh no question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► it he be he well they they would both be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► huge stars so and of course in Japan a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► fat cat with a tiny head there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► probably a whole word for that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► word and there's a fan fan group you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► probably get a pillow like that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► sleep with a pillow with it that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► with the tiny head in a bikini a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► bikini spiky blue hair but it was it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► has taught me you know it has taught me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► I should say so because I did not see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► going this way John no I like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► like he just fired into the Sun my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► was prepared to take Lucy down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► Washington State ferry system and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► her on a ferry and then leave the ferry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► without her and after a while the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► that work on the ferry would after about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► three trips I think they'd be like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► there a cat on the Thomas ferry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► he's like a monkey's paw yeah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► they would find a home for her right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► yeah that's right a car would get on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► the cat would jump in the car I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► whatever it would be it'd be it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► one of those great adventure movies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► that's not what happened it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► that that all Lucy needed was Erik and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► while Erik needed was Lucy I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► to talk about this because it reveals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► something about myself but it reveals a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► lot of things about myself that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► it's not very on-brand for me I hope we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► heard that there's a thing you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► when you have a pet especially a cat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► hear about things that you can get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► hear about this from like news groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► yes sure friends circles you hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► like oh you should get it this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► scratching post you should get your cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► this kind of a bowl so it doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► whisker fatigue you should get it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► kind of a box you should get we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► about something called comfort zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► comfort zone it looks like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► modern air freshener things like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► renews it kind of thing where you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► it in and basically it claims to release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► a relaxing scent that relaxes the cat we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► bought these years ago seen this coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► asking if I'd have for the same scent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4371">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► don't know I'm not a cat can you smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► it no I don't just uses electric as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► as I know it could be it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► glycerin in there I don't know but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► we went through this time where the cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► has had a very traumatic life she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► she's funny-looking she's got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► problems and then sometimes she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► stand in the hallway and do this up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► 13 times often at 4:00 in the morning my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► wife says to me she says well maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► should get some of these cat relaxers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► and I said do you think you had a job in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► like a nuclear missile silo klaxon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► you know you gotta buy refills for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► and so yeah relax her refills we use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► for a while it ran out I didn't give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► much thought but it was determined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► members of our household that it made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► difference really and you know what so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► we got more of them we I now have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► reminder every two weeks to check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► that I actually have something I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► click that says check on cat relaxers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► these these things only last two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► no they last seven supposedly a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► this is the ultimate ill Marilyn oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► sing it sister about boxes of six I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► vitamins six packs now you have you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► the greatest eel of all the electric cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► relaxers I have to stop what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► and walk around unscrew the bulb of cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► relaxer and put a fresh one on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► it's been determined that it helps now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► here's the funny part and this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► I'm so simpatico with your cat training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► you type situation which is I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► might work a little bit but I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► I don't know if it's a toxoplasmosis I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► don't know if it's love I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► what it is but we now have Carol acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► errs and I think it might work does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► cat continue to klaxon in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► this is the problem now we don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► it's the exception of the rule because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► sometimes she does it and it's cuz she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► wants food other times it might because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► she's lonely I think it's because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► deaf and blind although candidly I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► only one who thinks that right she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENiBOAI/4504">TS</a>]
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