00:00:00 ◼ ► my favorite has to be Jazzercise boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► camp boot camp but like I'm like no let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► Jazzercise came out which is not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► the same that's more relevant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► like in the moment I'm like come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► something better than aerobics aerobics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/13">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► didn't do it is Jazzercise like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► thing that people do or have done Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► Jazzercise was real as a heart attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► yes is it still like yes what though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► what is it is just exercising to jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► music what actually is it I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► I didn't know it was still going on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► remember it in the 80s I haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► I am almost sure there's a Jazzercise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► clinic or whatever you would call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► near us it's still real in the south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► obviously where where they live decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/44">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► behind us culturally and intellectually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► John why do you have to be original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/48">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► yeah oh wow Jazzercise comm is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► thing and I will add that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► Jazzercise clinic whatever you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► in Richmond is this like what Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► Simmons did basically no specific thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/64">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► it's got it involves jazz Versailles we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/68">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► have a st. Jude fundraiser update at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► time in which we record it if memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/76">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► serves we were challenging everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► see if we could get to 20,000 dollars I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► believe what's the total we wanted what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► was it currently at when we said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/84">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► was like it's like 16 or 17 something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► better right yeah it was like between 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► and 19 I think so 20 was I think close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► to 17 Tony was certainly attainable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► I mean $3,000 was a pretty fair bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► so we had challenged everyone hey can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► get to 20 and within I think 24 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► probably 12 hours of you releasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► final version of the show we blew past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► 20 which is an excellent problem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► so then I got on Twitter and I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► one or both of you had had chimed in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► this and I just said okay let's see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► we can do 25 and I felt like 25 is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► pretty good reach goal when you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► now hitting 20 and we blew past 25 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► this point I feel I felt like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► want to be like I didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► obnoxious about it so I kind of cooled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/125">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► off on my solicitations and it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► have been for the best because without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► we record thirty three thousand two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► hundred and fifty eight dollars holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► monkey that's amazing pretty great I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► so I'm genuinely so proud and excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► obviously this is not strictly a TP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► listeners not not by a long shot but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► there certainly seemed to be a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► heavy upswing in activity after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► episode released and that makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► genuinely makes me extremely happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► the Hackett family is is you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► importantly this is going to help all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► kinds of kids with cancer and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► have to stop the donations at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► released right at the end of the month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► and that's when Steven concentrates on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► it but there is no reason you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/174">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► donate again or more or if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► donated yet do a little now so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► love to see this you know get even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► higher but thirty three thousand 2058 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► dollars that is not all ATP but it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► least in part ATP so thank you everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► who through a little bit of your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► toward trying to get rid of childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► cancer that's that's super awesome we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► not I know we're not reminding people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► that if we said if they passed 20k we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► would try to come up with a word to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► describe ATP vans the best answer we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/199">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► thousands of them definitely not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/205">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► saying we should use it but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/210">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► definitely the funniest answer better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► than eighty peons and eighty peeps both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► of which are worse than tabs but tabs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► also pretty bad I'm still thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► it I feel like we should fulfill this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► promise but I'm not gonna settle I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► gonna be like well it's the best we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/223">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► come up with nope not gonna settle Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► and I are already prepared to settle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► don't like tabs at all but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► settle on eighty peons and eighty or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► no no eighty peons is insulting and deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► peep says as eighty peep says too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► gross things the only one I've come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► oh yeah that's like force touch yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► here's what I've come up with so far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► I'm not saying this is good but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► the best I've got so far in my in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► processing she was why what is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► reference I'm missing she so Sheila's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Australian can tell me for for women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► in Australia for a woman in Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► Celia Celia a woman or a girl right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► Sheila's but you just out but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► mean that your female listeners this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► a generic term it's gender-neutral also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► the tank in red versus blue is a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/274">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► time ago anyway but that's not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► one but it's the best I've come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► so far and it's mostly just it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► mostly just me me being angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► Tim's on hello it's 100% what it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► I also think it's fun exercise to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► a group of what we consider to be almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► entirely men who listen to the show just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► doing the idea of being referred to by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► in a word that implies a gender that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► doesn't match yours and that you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► supposed to eat it and say well it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► gender-neutral term it's fine I respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► the effort yeah same here and I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► with you on the on principle however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► it's also terrible agree it's not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► name for listeners unfortunately so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► all of the options that we have seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► probably safe to say we probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► engineering like it's because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► option people suggest it was awful I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► know anyway we wanted a name that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► is gender agnostic we could call all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/331">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► I know cases of both genders mmm no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► because I think Casey has a connotation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► and B says they're not all cases they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► don't what if they identify as a Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► there what if they're not I Miranda what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► if they're a Samantha I understood that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► Casey is we've been told on a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► occasions that Casey represents well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► they use a gender term but usually for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► this but they say Casey represents the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/357">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► gender-neutral term who knows but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► understand the point you're driving at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► Marco which is that most people will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► I wish I was Marco or I wish I was John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/368">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► but in actuality I'm Casey which is both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► flattering and kind of depressing Holly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/374">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► what people wish they were Casey now - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► because he's got a fancy SUV and a BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the work sometimes doesn't currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/380">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► work with the current state I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► driven it only once in the last week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► we have we have after-show stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► discuss about that yeah okay we yes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► you looked at the show notes Marco there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► is some after there's some after show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► anyway so we should continue with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► follow-up I I am it's funny that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/404">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► show this episode of the show is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► a roller coaster kids because I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► the highest of highs with regard to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► st. Jude donations however now I'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► the lowest of lows because I was hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► that nobody would discover which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► understand I just hold on this I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► hoping no one would discover that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► Apple TV 4k does indeed have a fan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► of course it was going to be discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► I understand that but like in my fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► world I was hoping that nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► know or that John would never find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► he would go on the Todd Vaziri full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► media blackout with regard to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► TV fan because I bet you it is so damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► quiet that you'll never hear it but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► oh you're gonna hear it because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/450">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► last week last week where I said they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► be 4k has no fan why did I say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► because I asked on the show before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► I asked hey is anybody can anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► answer these questions for him because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► had asked around and no one had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► able to answer me and the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► sent me this answer claimed to work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► Apple and I believe this person cuz we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► get a lot of email people who work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► that ball and they said that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► they also said this stuff about 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► frames per second it happened to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► correct and so I wrote the person back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► I'm like well oops yes looks like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► wrong on that one and this person didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► say hi just kidding I don't really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► at Apple I was just pulling your leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► but they said and said was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► thing that Marco and Jason Snell said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► when I asked them about is they both had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► Apple TV for Kay's in their possession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and asked them hey guys does it have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► fan and this was also this was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► so yes hi sir I searched online beat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► try to answer your question just to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► sure Li because anyone's hair down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► just verify this and there hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► one yet so the best they could do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► mine up so my car let me let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► or listen to it anyway I was Casey to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► your point I've been checking the iFixit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/520">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► site since like oh I know you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► right after it right after the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► maybe someone got a review units maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/526">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► fix this tearing apart you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► I was actually actively looking at I fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► it like everyday to see for a teardown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► but I knew two people who had this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► so I asked them to confirm and they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► I can't tell or it just doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► like there's a fan and so when I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/542">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► Apple employee say definitively there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► no fan I believe and the this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► employees excuse was that they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► tell that they couldn't they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► there was no fan because they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► hear anything because it was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► silent so they're like yeah my bad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► anyway like it's suspicious because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► you look at the bottom of it it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► round pattern of air holes the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/558">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► one had a solid bottom it seemed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► no ventilation at all and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► this came up by the way because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► tipped off either during or right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► the keynote of a public document an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► apple site that showed like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► like view of the thing showing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► measurements and stuff and it showed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► holes and it's like holes what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► mean here I was like I was I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► content and I lift it up and I I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► nothing I like I muted the sound so I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► would be a quiet room lifted up I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► nothing I put my hand under events to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► try to see if I could feel air movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► I felt nothing and I was like well one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► of these holes for me maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► passively cooling by convection using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► these holes like with a big heat sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► inside who knows but I'm like I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► really don't think there's a fan here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► but it is weird there's these holes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► circular pattern here that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► perfect if you had a fan behind it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► could feel or hear nothing yeah and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► not quite sure even after seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► teardown like you know a convection or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► passive cooling with holes like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► makes traffic sounds a lot of things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► don't like that but there's no holes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► the top of this right it's only holes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► the bottom yeah it seems like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► intake holes but so my theory here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► if you ever done any kind of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► know PC building with heatsink design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► you know that or just if you have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► grasp on science than me you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► already know this as well but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► know that like you know a passive just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► heatsink with no fan on it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► compare the cooling power of that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► heatsink that has even a little slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► bit of air movement being pushed over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► it's a huge difference like even you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► have a fan running at incredibly low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/654">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► for instance from having no fan at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► so I'm guessing this fan is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► dynamically controlled first of all so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/664">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► bet when I felt nothing under there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► bet it actually wasn't spinning or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► was spinning at a ridiculously low speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and maybe only if you're like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► pushing it hard like using 3d stuff in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► game maybe that's when it spins up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► like playing 4k video it was not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► anything noticeable so I'm guessing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► just a very low speed fan that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► have even not been spinning at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► I bet it's always spending but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► just a guess but anyway when I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► thing I will tell you if I can hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and the reason you should believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► that oh no it's because marco sent me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► airport router that he didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► that has a fan in and i was like off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► i knew it had a fan in it I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► don't know if I want this thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► fan he sent it to me and as I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► said on the show when I got it it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► fan but the only way I can hear it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► that I literally shove my ear like so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► is touching the bottom of the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► that is the only and I can hear it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► I do that I can hear that it's turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► but in every other scenario I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► hear not like oh I can hear it family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► you can turn off every device in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► house close all the windows make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► everything is dead silent and I can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► two feet away from it and I can't hear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► damn thing so if the Apple TV is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► remotely is quiet because it is like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► feet away from me it might in my TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► entertainment center it'll be fine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► actually physically touched in my ear I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► expect to be able to hear it if the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► is moving so we'll see I'm gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► mine mine's delivering next week so next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► show I will be able to give you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/748">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► answer mmm-hmm I'm skeptical I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► you've been but I think it's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► getting on this I won't care if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► hear it when I put up to me air because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► I can't hear what if I can't hear it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► same thing I don't care about my airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► thing I don't care that I can shove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► to my ear it's not you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► communicator that's I have to jam it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► perfectly happy to have fans that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► literally can't hear we'll see I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► the truth the whole truth and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► but the truth I will give it to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► wasn't imarco like stick a toothpick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► there and if something hits it great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/779">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► teardown I'm like look is there a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► there is there no fan is there a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► we know the answer we just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► whether it's spinning all the time yadda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/792">TS</a>]
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00:13:25 ◼ ► can try it for yourself with no credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► card required no risk see for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► how great Backblaze is you want cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► backup because in addition to say Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► Machine drives or disk loans which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► should probably have as well those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► great you also need something off-site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► in case anything happens to your office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► or home that could damage those drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► if you have off-site backup you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► protected from all sorts of additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► hazard types that could happen things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► like fires floods theft and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► gonna have online backup that plays is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► the best they cannot pay me to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► I'm telling you that as a back place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► customer since before they were ever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► sponsor of any of my stuff I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► Backblaze I use back plays I've tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► others they are the best they cannot pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► me to say that they can pay me to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► you about some of their cool features so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► for instance they have iOS and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► apps so you can restore files from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► computers onto your phone so for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► if you are out somewhere or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► traveling and you need access to a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► on your computer you can just restore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► on to your phone it's wonderful for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► they of course also have web restoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► so you can restore stuff with a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► traditional way onto computers for quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► downloading if you need to download a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff they can overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► you a hard drive and if you send it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► within a month they'll give you a refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► on the hard drive wonderful features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► here Backblaze and I highly suggest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► you have cloud backup if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► have cloud backup I have this gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/880">TS</a>]
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00:14:52 ◼ ► please calm / ATP thank you so much - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► back please for sponsoring our show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► tell me about downloading movies from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► on this box not 4k ones apparently this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► is for Apple support document you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► download a local copy of an HD movie by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► the way I hate the fact that they Qi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► doesn't refer to 4k because what is 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► if not high definition or even higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► definition anyway what is HiFi yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and you might be able to download I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/919">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► you can download a local copy of HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► movie and you might be able to download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► HDR and dolby vision versions what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► you mean I might like maybe you'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► that's from Apple support document it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/933">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► says you might be able to do this yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► maybe summer download right it says then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► finally the last Clause but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► download a 4k version now why can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► theories in this the one theory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► people have put forward is like oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/947">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► 4k versions are too big and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► theoretical fixed size where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► download stuff is not big enough to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► a single 4k movie or it would take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► all the space right it's like oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► too big download I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► the case especially if they're they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► TVC they shouldn't be that much you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► they shouldn't be like 50 gigabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► versus 5 they should be bigger than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► HD ones but not like so big that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► can't download a single one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► although maybe they just say look one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► them is so big it would take up all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► space and we don't want to do that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► another possibility is that as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► yeah I always have this as a possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► is that content owners are stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► like you know we can't let them download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► the 4k version because then people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► be able to pirate our movies and as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► as we stop them from downloading the 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/990">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► DRM ik encumbered version of our movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► to their Apple TVs there's no way anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► will ever pirate this movie and will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► safe from piracy so please don't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► anybody download like that's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► it that's definitely the answer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► it's such a dumb thing like so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► day and age where people you know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► we don't know why but the bottom line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► if you were thinking that you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► to be able to get to buy the Big Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► TV so that you could download a 4k movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► and then watch it offline on your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► TV you will not be able to because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► Apple TV will not download the 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► versions of movies to local storage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► I don't like it so once again why is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► 64 gig version what they up the limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► by the way on games it used to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► you could download like 200 megabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► and then you could download chunks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► on-demand content they upped it way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► so then you can download like a gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► or more or something anyway in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► you could make very large games in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► Apple's fantasy world of the Apple TV as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► an actual gaming console you could fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► the whole thing with games so tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► about bootcamp because Randy Garcia has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► to point out to us that as we kiss was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► John I think brought up airpower as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► kind of military term that's being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► by Apple as a product name which by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► way somebody did we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► last episode somebody said it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► have been called apple juice somebody on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► Twitter said this like right when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► announced and I think that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► been a terrible but much better name at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► the same time but that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► Garcia's written in to say that boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► camp is another military term that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► is used in somebody maybe Randy has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► provided a deeply troubling video of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► Steve Jobs many years ago trying to act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► do you want to tell us about this John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► yeah boot camp is the one hadn't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► of it's a good thing a good because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► couldn't recall a single or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► product that had military determinant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► although I would say that boot camp has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► got have been co-opted and made secular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► secular sort of non military civilian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► yeah made civilian in a way that air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► power has not because now you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► you know they have Jazzercise boot camps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► everything is a boot camp like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► basically just a training place and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► guess they're still riffing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► military one but anyway the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► is i disqualified because it is internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► only company communication and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► know if you've if you work at a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► company you've probably experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► corporations targeted at their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► employees and they're usually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► awful and you may think that Apple is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► exception but I can tell you that bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► the 80s and 90s definitely was not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► exception there is a vast collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► internal audio and video content created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► by Apple for Apple's employees only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► that is cringe-worthy and hilarious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► someone's good fun to write it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► just a bunch of engineers or a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► people in HR making a video with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► 80s video technology like they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► they didn't have an iMac with iMovie on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► it they had like you know Betamax and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► VHS and probably fancier professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► video stuff and they didn't have actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► they had just like their employees and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► think the one in question is Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► I believe that's right I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► FDR anyway you can watch in YouTube if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► you want to be said about internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► corporate communications but rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► assured Apple was no exception and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► probably continues to be no exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► externally but their internal facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► corporate videos are not quite at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► same standard our final piece of follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► up today is from a friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► Sam but well submit who is of the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► bearings podcast this is all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► come up again later in the after show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► this was with regard to our comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► about the Acura TLX that I had driven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► excuse me had ridden in he wrote to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► to say with regard to the comments about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► the DCT the torque converters mounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► between the flywheel and the dual clutch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► pack and intended to provide some torque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► multiplication and smooth out the shifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► a bit it's work but it's nothing to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► worked up about and he provided a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► to some more info that strikes me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► super freakin weird like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► reason I tend to hate automatics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► because of that like that mushy feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► that a torque converter brings and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► understand the motivation here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► motivation makes sense but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► you're taking away the one thing I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► about a DCT which is that I feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► traditional automatic the one but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► could see here is that when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► driving a DCT the shifting between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► first and second like when you drew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► when you're going at low speeds and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► you're using like first and second gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► that can be very jerky just like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► do it in a stick you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► selling into a market that is accustomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► to automatics that might feel too jerky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► to them yeah if you're selling to sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► people it's gonna feel perfectly awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► and normal but if you're stiff you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► selling to automatic people I see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► they would do that I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► though that like at that point why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► just use you know really good eight or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► nine speed Auto and maybe that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► they're premium option is just a nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► area to beat auto like and but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► like I would prefer a DCT that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► DCT without anything in front of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► I do see like for the market they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► selling why they do that but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► doesn't make sense to me that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► bother with a DCT at all at that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► think there's a limitation of current D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► cities that they can't be that smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► down at low speeds right because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► someone using a manual can be right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► just slip the clutch more like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► yeah start and stop as smooth as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► want and apparently that's not within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► the realm of not within the functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► envelope of modern DC's most of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► are tuned shift very fast like it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► you know for at the higher speeds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► but not so much tuned for creeping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► of parking lot and rounding the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► around a residential Road and you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► little bit of a bump and the TLX again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► trying to split the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► the tsx and the TL and erroring on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► side of being boring as always went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► further they went for it like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► important thing is not to jostle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► transmission and put a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► slush in between it in the wheels to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► smooth things out at low speeds maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► would be better if like if that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► torque converter wasn't a factor at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► higher speeds or anything but either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► like it's such a sort of Frankenstein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► setup that yeah it is it does seem much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► cleaner to either I've lucky either got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► an automatic or you go stick or a DCT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► and they all have their own behaviors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► and trying to combine them into sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► a hybrid suspension with the best of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► worlds is just kind of papering over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► flaws like it used to be when we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► single clutch automated manuals that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► they were super rough right and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► was slow shifting and very jerky and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► dual clutch really helped because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► could have the other gear set ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► go and swap very quickly without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► harshness right but apparently there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► still problems at low speed and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► feel like in you know another 5-10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► they work out the details and ECC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► maybe they won't need a hack like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► but anyway like it's not a great car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► anyway should there are a lot of better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► choices in that question that we've now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► lost all of the listeners who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► really care about cars so sorry everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► you can come back now we're back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► we're gonna talk ask ATP so let's begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► with Colin we're who writes John's rant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► about tech people forgetting betas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► forgetting that betas are betas reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► me of a question I have a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► times on iOS betas I will find bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► apps that I report to developers to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► hey this doesn't work on the iOS 11 beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► I usually get a response along the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► so if yes this is a beta betas aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► supported and then I'll often see rants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► complaining about people saying things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► are broken on betas but an inherent part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► of the beta experience is reporting bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► in fact that's the reason betas exist so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► if I want to be a good citizen and beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► user and report issues I find how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► this is pretty simple really so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► when you're on a beta keep in mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► in some cases the developer has I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► reporting because like the beta just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► came out and they got at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► you did in a lot of cases the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► can't fix the bug that you're reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► until the GM SDK comes out which could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► be months later right before the GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► Arena right before the the version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► released to the public so mainly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► you we can't submit builds to the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► Store that use the beta SDK until the GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► is out the apps won't accept them so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► you're telling someone that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► broken in the form of like a complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► like I demand that you fix us quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► dammit that's really frustrating for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► developers to hear because they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► probably you know had they probably know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► about that already and they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► can't fix it yet or have had a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► fix it yet and they you know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► really matter because it still a beta if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► you are trying to leave it asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► review in some ways fortunately iOS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► has prevented this in recent versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► like usually you aren't you aren't able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► to leave reviews from betas anymore from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► beta iOS anymore which is nice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► would also be a thing not to do but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► you're just telling somebody in a civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► way like hey there's this bug I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► thought you might want to know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► that's totally fine and we as developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► need that and I appreciate that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► good so as long as it's not a one-star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► review or using the tone or freezing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► like a complaint that you expect it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► be fixed all of a sudden it's fine well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► I think the key part here is like how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► I be a good beta user and what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► Abeyta userupp if you're a beta user of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► the operating system you should report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► it be reporting bugs to Apple not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► third-party developers the only way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► should be reporting bugs to third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► developers is if you are on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► overcast beta and Marco wants to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► here's a beta of overcast how does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► work and in that case mark will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► tell you I want you to test this beta on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► a released version of the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► system right because know no third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► developers are going to support their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► applications on unreleased versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► the operating system they're gonna they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► may ask they may use it themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► ask their beta testers to use it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► they really want to know how is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► going to work on the real release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► version so if you're not a beta tester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► of the application you're reporting bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► on you don't have to feel like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► to be a good beta citizen because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► not on that beta if your beta testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► iOS the way to be a good citizen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► report bugs you find in the OS now does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► Apple want to know that some third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► application you have doesn't work on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► probably not but you know it's a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► black hole throw over whatever bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► reports you want let them do with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► they want but I would say that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► Apple is looking for are bugs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► operating system itself of which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► are usually plenty and if you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► a good basis and you want to report bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► do that right but and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► report bugs on a third-party iOS apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► talk to the developer and say hey can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► be on your beta program the next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► you have a beta ready send it to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► I will try it and report bugs and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► would appreciate that everything John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► just said is wrong thank you Wow what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► are you trying to say you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► don't want people to report bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► overcast or you want them to report bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► about your application doesn't work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► beta OSS the idea that I would only want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► bug reports from overcast beta users is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► completely wrong well no but like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► saying if you want to be a good beta if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► you want to be a good beta citizen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► they're not a beta citizen if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► not using like how would they even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► to overcast beta if they're not on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► beta you see I'm saying no but like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► you if you're using my app on a beta OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► and you run into a bug I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► know about that chances are I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► but what if I don't you know my beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► groups are really small and most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► time I don't have a current beta running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► so I want to know about that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► the idea that you should only report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► bugs on the OS if you're testing an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► beta is totally wrong I don't know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► developer who wouldn't want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► reports well that's how you'd be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► that's how you be a good beta citizen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► because you're testing a beta of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► tap BOTS Paul apparently doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► hear your complaints about their broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► things because they know they're broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► on the beta one oh but again it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► an it's I think it's a difference of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► tone it's a difference of like hey just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► you know this is broken versus I demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► that you fix this you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► that's a very different tone and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► them is is helpful and one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► not I think it even just reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► especially if it's a well-known bug or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► reporting it like it is almost no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► say it if it's the if you were the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► print and that hundredth person telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► somebody to their app crashes on launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► in the iOS loving beta like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► almost no way you can say that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and I feel like I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► particularly useful thing to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► like especially with something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► crashes on launch if the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► doesn't know that they don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► the app anymore and it's hopeless right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► chances are good they know it crashes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► launch and they're addressing it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► what if it only crashes on launch on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► phone you don't use you know like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that's why I like these I can't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► a situation where I would not want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► reports even if I'm getting 100 of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► then then I'll tweet from the account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► saying hey just so you know I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► this thanks for your reports then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► could not report the same thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► but like you know if if something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► that happens I want to know to be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► response if the developer is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► tons of them then they won't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► respond to all of them but like yeah by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► all means please tell us we need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► that's the point of betas even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► aren't our software in beta even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► we still need to know that's again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► kind of stuff I think we need to survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► more developers to ask them if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► applications on beta OSS and giving them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► bug reports because I have almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► heard the opposite that please do not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► application doesn't work on a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► version of the OS because it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► it's almost like a support function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► channels if you're not on my beta to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► tell me that my application doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► in a beta OS like they just don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► to hear it and maybe they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► frustrated maybe you're right it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► about tone and all I ever hear is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► frustrated complaint and really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► super valuable for them and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► eventually reach their limit and snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► but I've always heard the opposite not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► that I'm sending these reports by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► I haven't being a good business and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► don't even send Apple the bug reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► Mike Paul writes to ask do you think ap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► FS will be supported on fusion drives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► future builds of High Sierra so chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► summarizer in chief summary a p FS was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► supported on fusion drives which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► these kind of weirdo scenarios where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► have a spinning disk and a SSD that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► kind of melded to be one volume i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► i'm that's not going to satisfy john but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► for the purposes of this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► all you need to know and so they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► supported in betas of high sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► then when the GM happened oh just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► fusion drive support for you so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► gonna have to reformat to hfs+ if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► question is do you think I guess John do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► you think that this will be supported in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► future builds yes I do because Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► shipped a lot of fusion drives and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► think they don't want any of us hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► around and they almost had it working so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► they'll eventually get it working hi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► expected what is future how many points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► do we have to go through how difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► is it I don't know but I do expect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► supported also Craig federighi sent an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► email to somebody allegedly saying yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► the company's coming in a future version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► basically there you go Oh fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1890">TS</a>]
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00:33:14 ◼ ► all right so uh it sounds like all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► households have received new toys in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► last week although not all three hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► so the Apple watch Series three is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► they have been received as of this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► Friday by those who had pre-ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► basically at the obscene hour of 3:00 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► the morning if you live on the east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► coast like all three of us do so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► three households have received them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Marco you and/or tiff have one how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► how many did you get for the two of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► all just one tifus I didn't want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► okay and then I got one for myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► actually Aaron got a non sell one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► her although for Aaron and TIFF by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► way what were their reasons for saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► they don't want so well TIFF decided she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► didn't want the watch at all for Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► there is never a time she expects to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► that far away from her phone to justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► spending the extra money each month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► Aaron Aaron likes her watch I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► fair to say but doesn't love her watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► she she views it mostly as a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► screen in terms of notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► very little else and so because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► she didn't seem to think it was worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► the extra money each month and if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► wasn't in if she knew she was never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► ever going to pay for cell service then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► why bother paying the extra money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► the cell radio but she did want a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► watch then she's got a new one just her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► current watch is slow or you thought she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► should just get one so you feel less bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► about getting expensive new watch all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► the above her current watch her or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► previous now watch was a series zero as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► was mine and it was slow and she has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► 38 millimeters the battery life was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► getting to be comically bad after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► court in over the course of two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► expected and I was spending a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► bunch of money on my fancy new watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► I figured you know if I'm gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► fancy new watch then she should get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► fancy new watch that's because but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► solution to spending money and feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► guilty about is just spend more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► well yeah this is the Marco approach and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► now the KC approach it's in have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► and so anyway say yes so your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► hazard has not received hers yet she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► not received it's a birthday gift okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► so I won't be able to ask you about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► experience then but I will start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► asking Marco because I suspect you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► not have too much to say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► experience what is your experience been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► with your Apple watch Series three with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► LTE I have not really used the LTE yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► because I mainly got the LTE so I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► build overcast with it when the API lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► me do that and I hope that is soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► but that is the main reason I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► customers were asking for it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► figured I should I need that for testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► but the the for the rest of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► I mean it's the the way that the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► phrased the speed improvements it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► difference in sound like it was like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► incremental speed update it's not it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► massive speed upgrade from even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► I know answers one which themselves were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► massive speed upgrades from the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► series zero if you still have a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► II row and you are at all thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► upgrading upgrade it is an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► fast device now not to the but not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► like phone speed like it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► you're never waiting for anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► compared to where it was it's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► speed upgrade yep I would agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► that and I'd also like to quickly double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► down and say that the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► improvement for me anyway has also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► tremendous so I completely agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► you if you're listening to this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► have a series zero watch and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► only one I have experience with I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► speak for series one or series two if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► you have a series zero watch and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► thinking yeah maybe it's time it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► because this is way better both speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► wise as Marco said and in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► keep in mind also with battery life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► was thing about the other day like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► Apple watch is so dependent on having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► adequate battery life like if your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► dies in the middle of the day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► really makes it a lot less useful to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► like if it can't make it the hole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► this is one of the reasons why Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► so conservative about how it spends its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► power budget now that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► reasons why the OS is so limited by apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► unlimited because you know if your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► you know 3/4 of the way through a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► you can plug it in somewhere for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► minutes then and then get back to using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► it again with your watch that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► in communion sites like take it off put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► it somewhere you probably not even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► a lot of extra chargers for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► they're this separate thing it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► a pain it's this giant magnetic disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► thing so like you know most people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► gonna have one charger it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► like next to their bed at night so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► your battery life sinks down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► point where it can't make it a full day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► that dramatically reduces your happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► and the usefulness of that device so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► because these batteries degrade over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► time I suspect that a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► going to be replacing them about every 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► to 3 years even if they're totally happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► with them just because the battery will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► start fading and it'll it'll cross the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► point where it's no longer making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► through a full day for them and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► gonna suck so if you have a series Eero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► and this describes you which I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► that's this is roughly the time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► that's really starting to happen with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► lot of the series zeros where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► battery is not making it anymore if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► have a series zero and you are at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► thinking about upgrading this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► time to do that and these are great I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► incredibly happy with them yep I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► I'm probably gonna have to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► eventually to because even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► don't wear my Apple watch except for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► few weeks a year I do wear it a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► weeks here and my series zero it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► mean the battery is okay but it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► it's in rough shape like it's so angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► at me because I don't wear it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► leave it on its charger sitting on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► you know dresser or whatever I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2338">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► upgrade to watch OS 4 which toking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► three days to complete because my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► wouldn't connect to it or I would tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► download / zoom when you're connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► Wi-Fi when I was totally on a Wi-Fi I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► like a foot from the Wi-Fi router and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► everything is connected to Wi-Fi or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► said I can't connect to the phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► the watch could ping the phone and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► it was connected I rebooted both devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► in the end what I had to do was wipe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► entire watch and start over and restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► from her backup it's the only way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► then I'm restoring from a watch OS 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► backup and then once that got on then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► finally I could upgrade to 4 which still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► takes a year and Dave actually run but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► was I was glad to see that's that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► circular progress bar and the four-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► wait for an upgrade so anyway now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► series 0 Apple watch is running the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► OS but I think I will actually buy a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► really don't want to because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► like the stainless-steel one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► costs a tremendous amount of money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► rarely wear it in the end I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► will get a new one not this year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► like next year or the year after what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► will happen is I'll go to WWC or go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► vacation one year and iWatch won't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► it through the day like Marco said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► I'll be like well that's it I've like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► either either I don't have a Baba watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► anymore I have to buy a new one and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► the end I'll probably buy any one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► not this year although who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► maybe seeing my wife he was here cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► cellular Dick Tracy watch it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► convince me that I should get one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► doubt it yeah I mean it hey if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► one you can switch back to your flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► phone yeah that's gonna have my flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► phone somewhere but I can't no and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► other thing on the speed to like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► say you know again I guess it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► doesn't make it like a super fast device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► but this is I think this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► Apple watch that's not too slow yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► agree with all of that so I got my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► watch series three late-ish Friday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► typically go and my I do my exercise on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► Monday Tuesday and Friday generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► speaking so it wasn't until this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► Monday and Tuesday that I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► try going for a run without my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► which is kind of weird I mean I've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► been running semi consistently for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► months it's not like I'm some expert you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► know forever long runner and even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► just a few months I've gotten used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► having my phone either in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► careening out of my bum bag as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► trying to put it in set bag which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► my screen broke or bouncing around on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► tailbone as it's in my sort of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► fanny pack hello the UK you mean your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► sit bone yes yes that's totally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► but anyway hey the the point is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► it was very weird but immediately very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► freeing not to have to carry my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► which is super cool so I put in my air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► I had previously downloaded some music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► onto my watch connected my ear pods to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► my watch and I started listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► music started to run and run keeper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► went on my run and it was really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► awesome there are some problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► this though number one I want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► want to listen to music I want to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► to podcasts I can barely keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► running is a really great time for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► plow through you know maybe one episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► or an episode and a half or whatever of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► some of my favorite shows and if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► bring my phone that I'm not listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► so if only I knew the guy that uses my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► other that writes my podcast client app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► whatever of choice maybe I could put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► a good word with him about how I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► really love some overcast watch support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► and I understand what the problems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► and you wrote a really really great post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► about it and then this week's under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► radar you talked about kind of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► thing so as much as I joke I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► actually beating you up about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► I know your hands are tied but please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► PLEASE Apple give Marco the tools give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► mark of the tools so we can have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► nice thing we just want nice things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► anyway we've already talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► battery life battery life is tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► as compared to previous I have gone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► not only a couple of runs with the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► but also I have taken Declan to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► neighborhood a few times and generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► speaking in the past I brought my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► which means I'm often tempted to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► like Twitter or Instagram or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► instead of playing with Declan because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► I'm a terrible father and not having my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► phone with me makes it much harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► what-have-you because I don't have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► apps on my watch and that's been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► awesome what has been less awesome is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► replying to text messages and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► like that because it seems that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► one time in 3 the text messages just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► text message it just doesn't send and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► and when I say text message I mean both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► iMessage and text message so that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► of a bummer kind of a big bummer yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► don't know if that's a I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► that's a software problem I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► if it's a hardware problem I'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► it's a software thing but that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► bums me out the other thing that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► a little bit troubling is I have seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► very small version of the bug that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► half of the reviewers hit insofar as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► I run I'm running in my neighborhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► at one point or another I will pass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► house because I start you know a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► bit past the house I run for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► past the house again and that's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► end I end where I started and I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► as I as I was coming to the end of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► run which is close to the house but pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► house I was attempting to do something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► don't recall exactly what it was maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► was just seeing if what the status was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► because this is all new to me and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► trying to figure out okay how long does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► it take to get on the cell radio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► when does it fall off the cell radio etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► etc I noticed as I ran past the house it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► picked up my Wi-Fi but then it it tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► to cling to it longer than it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► should have which I don't really blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► the device because it's of course going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► to try to power off the cell radio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► it's of course going to try to hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► to the Wi-Fi because that radio is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► less you know power expensive to to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► on but what ended up happening was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► the last you know I don't know three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► connectivity because it was still trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► to find the Wi-Fi that I had already run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► past and so that was kind of a bummer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► general though I don't have that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► I leave the cell I leave the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► for the cell radio enabled and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► mean by that is it can go on cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► anytime it wants and I have not paid any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► attention to like turning that off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► anything like that and 99% of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► my phone is right there so it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► but it's it's been maintenance-free in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► that regard which is really nice and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► far I really really really liked it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► I'm glad that I have the cell service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► for the runs and even more importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► for when I'm out with Declan and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► want to be attracted to my phone this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► absolutely a first world problem it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► absolutely a Casey problem and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► should just have the self-control not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► check Twitter every four seconds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Instagram or what-have-you but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► myself enough to know that I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► and so removing this problem by removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► my phone from the equation is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► good way to fix it and I almost put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► Tweetbot on my watch for instances where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► I'm say DMing with somebody or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► like that and it occurred to me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► putting Tweetbot on my watch i will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► defeating the purpose that I've set out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► for my watch which is to say being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► to be distraction free another couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► things I've noticed once I upgraded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► High Sierra and I could use unlock with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► my watch again because apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► there's something that causes issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► with the cellular watch and in Sierra in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► below so you have to be on some high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► watch to do watch unlock once I upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► two of my three computers to High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► that has come back and that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► faster than my series zero by generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► speaking a pretty comfortable margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► Apple pay is way faster in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► couple of months that I had my series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► zero I'd kind of abandoned using Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► pay on the watch because it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► much slower than my phone and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► fair bit faster on the series three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► which I really like all in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► combination of the Apple watch series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► three with LTE with air pods is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► darn fantastic the only things that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► really longing for are an update to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► RunKeeper so it will take take a note of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► the map of what of what I ran because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► you use the exercise app that's built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► into the watch it will save a map to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► your health app but RunKeeper hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► hasn't built in support for that API yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► and again I want podcasts on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► pretty please Apple please look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► Marco's post and give me podcasts on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► watch that's all I want please please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► and a volume widget please for the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► of God no one cared about a volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► widget on the watch until air pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► now because air pods don't have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► way to control volume physically on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► everybody is demanding that with good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► reason and yeah I can't I can't offer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► like there is no API for me to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► them a volume widget for either phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► watch audio levels and I just it kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► me yeah so those are my thoughts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► definitely recommend it I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► think it's good I definitely am glad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► spent the money on both it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2878">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► cellular service on top I'm I'm giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► it two thumbs up so far really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► love this device yeah the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► would add is like it seems like the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► what we're seeing with the cellular you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► know holding on to Wi-Fi and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► else you know this is clearly a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► that for power reasons has to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► LTE as little as possible I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► it's it's a good device to get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► if you have like a specific use case in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► mind like Casey at the park or running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► without a phone like that makes a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► sense I would say don't assume this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► device is just gonna be always happily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► using its LTE the way like an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► it's it's going to minimize LTE so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► aggressively that it's it's it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► useful to think of the LTE thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► just in case I need it kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► like if you're on a run and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► want to be without a way to make a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► call in case of an emergency or you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► to be reachable by people you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► makes sense for that but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► necessarily say that it makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► buy the LTE version with the assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► that you'll be using it just like a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► phone because not only is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► very very conservative with when it uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► the LTE at all but also app why is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► apps are not really ready for that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► they were there were good segments about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► app readiness on other podcast this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► I know there was a great one on upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► especially and I think a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► unconnected but basically yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► connected but basically you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► apps for Apple watch have been written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► to date with the assumption that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► corresponding app on the phone for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► their communication and the watch really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► couldn't do much until fairly recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► with its own communication and and until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► like last week that was only on Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and because nobody really went with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► watch without their phone and did much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► with it there wasn't much reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► really write the apps for that so Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► watch third-party apps still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► anything first party apps frankly still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► have a long way to go before they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► really make good use of independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► connectivity on the watch and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► hardware probably needs a couple more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► generations before it's really able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► use the LTE radio more than occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► anyway so buy it if you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► reachable and to have a lifeline you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► know they like that kind of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► use when you are out without a phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► I wouldn't necessarily say buy it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► for like entertainment to go phoneless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► like Casey at the park because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► not ultimately what it's for and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► not worth optimized to do I would agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► also you can bring your phone to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► park man like kids at the park like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► we love our kids but like they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► a lot it's it's okay to bring your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► look Instagram while they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► climbing the monkey bars and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► when you aren't like when they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► interacting with you when they're guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► running around you can you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► permission to do it let me you look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► and they're gone you don't have to blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► I think part of the problem is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► know the this particular Park it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► in the neighborhood so it's usual that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► it's only Declan and I that are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► and beyond that he's still in the phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► where everything is Daddy this are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► really mommy this and then if mommy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► isn't there daddy this and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► it's it's it's better if I am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► distracted by something else and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► if I'm paying more attention to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► actually a Hamilton or and the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► points out a very good thing bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► phone to take pictures like you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► as people are realizing they can now go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► out into the world with just their watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► realizing oh crap I don't have a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► when I do that and I'm used to always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► having a camera yeah the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► actually Mike and I talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► very briefly on the forthcoming episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► of analog but uh if I'm was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► bring a camera to the park I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► probably bring the big camera because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► I think the pictures are much much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► better coming off of that now once I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► my fancy iPhone ten in 2020 when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► finally available then that might change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► when I have my fancy you know a two lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► camera system but for now I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► more apt to bring watch and big camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► than I would be watching phone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► actually a reasonable plan I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► yeah but I mean obviously this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► of a unique to casing use case and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► may not be the case for everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► but I would agree with with what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► said a minute ago like if you have if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► you the listener have a particular set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► of times that you think this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► useful to you for example exercise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► particularly in a situation where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► don't have access to Wi-Fi or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► else so often but not always outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► exercise or if you just are like me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► don't have very good self control then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► think having a watch with LTE makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► sense and certainly one of the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► things is if you wanted to just see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► you thought you could get a watch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► LTE and just choose not to enable it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► yes it's it's I think 70 extra dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► up front but you don't have to incur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► that monthly fee until you you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► you might want it but if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► really have a particular use like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► in mind I agree with Marco that it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► what do you think of the red dot now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► that you have it uh I wish the red dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► agreed I have yet to see any model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► except the white ceramic where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► I think it looks ok or passable on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► steel ones and maybe ok on the gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► aluminum one but that's about the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► can say about it yeah fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► I think I feel the same way I I wish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► wasn't there I wish I had an option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► not have it there I like if always watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► dots yeah I know but I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► trust myself to apply it in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► that it won't look like garbage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► watch thought that yeah yeah yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► yeah if I could I do believe if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► pay a little bit of extra money to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► a version without the dot I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► would have find somebody who paints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► miniatures and yeah there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► enamel in there you'll never notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► it'll be practically perfect yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► something like that I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► overall i am i was expecting to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► watch you know i am a pretty big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► the apple watch as a platform and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► expecting to like this new one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► a fair bit and it turns out I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► like this new watch a lot so it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► very worthwhile upgrade the sell like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► just discussed yeah maybe maybe not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► me absolutely Marco I suspect if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► when you get overcast working and if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► when you decide to ditch your phone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► bike rides I think you'll be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► enthusiastic about the the cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► radio but but in general I can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► definitely say this is a worthwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3285">TS</a>]
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00:55:18 ◼ ► heart's content no matter what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► skill level is you don't need to do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► kind of web coding you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► know HTML or JavaScript you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► customize things visually through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► drag-and-drop it's amazing you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► sites look so good I mean they look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► to begin with and then you can customize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► them to your heart's content it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► wonderful these tools are so easy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► that you can even recommend them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► other people so if somebody comes to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► and says hey you're the computer nerd of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► my life can you build me a website you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► can say I'll do even better than that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3345">TS</a>]
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00:55:50 ◼ ► you how to make a website at Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► and then you can do it yourself without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► bugging me and then when you need help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► Squarespace they were supported so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► don't have to bug me for help either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► it's just wonderful whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► making a site for yourself or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► else trusts Squarespace to do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► because then you are out of the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► building and website hosting game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3367">TS</a>]
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00:56:29 ◼ ► from Squarespace all right John so tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► me about high sierra and tell me i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► upgraded my macbook adorable i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► upgraded my work computer am I allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► to upgrade my iMac that I'm recording on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► as we speak not to say that I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► upgrade as we're recording of course but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► am I allowed to upgrade my iMac John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► what's the deal you do what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► sir iMac all right so what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► official John siracusa review of Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► high sierra view is i still haven't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► it my jaw literally never used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► because i didn't install any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► betas and i don't have it anyway max now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► why don't I have it in a max well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► obviously the Mac Pro that I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► to right now can't run it I never did do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► the whatever you know firmware upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► trickery to make it run Sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► probably never will so that's that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► allowed to install it at work yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► because of some Active Directory bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► that are supposedly fixed in the 10:13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► one beta but right now if you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► install it one of our works incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► invasive please that don't let me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► double-click the is Sierra installer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► dialog pops up with a message written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► our corporate IT that says you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► install it I'm hoping that didn't patch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► the binary of the installer but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► mechanism they have to intercept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► launch of a particular application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► throw up an arbitrary message in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► dialog got anyone know so anyway I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► upgrade the work one that would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► one I would you would be most likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► upgrade because I would have some faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► complaining about had tested it and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► sure our stuff works on it and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► practically brand-new like it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► fresh and like I haven't done anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► weird do it so if any computer is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► work ok with it it's gonna be that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and then finally my wife's computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► which I thought it was an upgrade in day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► one I found myself with cold feet not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► much about a PFS although there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► issues with that like super duper that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► used to go in just now has like a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► support for cloning from it but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► I'm getting cold feet about the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► zero and in a way I didn't with Sierra I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► just I don't know I think maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► combination like just the point zero is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► not enough to scare me away and just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► PFS is not enough to scare me both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► them I'm hedging so I've downloaded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► Installer and I've done like a fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► round of backups and clones and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► sure all of my backups are good and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► know I've done all this stuff I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► already to install but I thought I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► pull the trigger and it's just like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► I'm not pulling the trigger and mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► what I would be upgrading for is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► version of photos not for a PFS was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► obviously I like that I wanted and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► get it eventually but I wanted to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► the new version of photos but that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► me a little bit scared too so I may turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► out that I just wait for the point one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► especially if the point one is due out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► soon but right now I've been too much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► it's a try it so I'm just I'm just in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► holding pattern waiting to see other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► things I let other people go first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► see what kind of disasters befall them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► and this is kind of weird for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► I upgrade it almost all the other ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► always upgrade in my wife's computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► like as soon as it comes out just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► know why not everything's fine but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► time I don't know it's just me I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► think there's anything particularly high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► the beta so I have nothing to base my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► fears on but I think the combo of AP FS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► and the point zero is keeping me away I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► am surprised by that me too so Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► have you upgraded anything yet Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► only my laptop I I would like to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► pop mostly for the media format support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► but I really that's pretty much the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► thing that is really compelling for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► right now and and the thing is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► know I've really been burned a lot it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► the last few Mac OS releases you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► like ever since like the discovery de [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► fiasco pretty much every almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► major version of Mac OS in the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► years has broken some sub system that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► rely on for a little while you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► sometimes for the entire release cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► like I'm I'm pretty sure Sierra still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► messes up bluetooth input devices like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► still think blue is messed up in Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► and and you know some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► reporter reporting USB audio bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► earlier on and Sierra's lifecycle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► stuff and like you know this is my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► machine III I can't afford downtime of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► my Mac of my main Mac here I do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► entire job here the idea of taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► risk on High Sierra in you know early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► in its lifecycle with you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► Sierra like I kind of know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► like the devil you know it's like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► Sierra is buggy with Bluetooth pointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► devices so it's like I'm used to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► mouse and trackpad just occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► just disconnecting for no reason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► then reconnecting like I've gotten used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► to that now you know with High Sierra I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► don't know what this year's discovery D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► is yet you know I've heard lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► reports that it's that it's the Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► Server rewrite yeah and and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► it like when I ask people on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► like hey you know what is is High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► experiences the the responses were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► pretty evenly split between it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► perfect I've had no problems and oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► god it's been a disaster for mostly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► the Windows Server things so I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► that it mostly works if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► things the way Apple want you to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► if you have some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► workflow or or setup that is that puts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► strain on edge cases the Windows Server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► so for instance if you are frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► connecting or disconnecting monitors or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► using clamshell mode maybe like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► that kind of thing I bet it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► more likely to have bugs related to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► Windows Server stuff then or if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► a particular GPU like some particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► NVIDIA GPU Steve trout and Smith have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► Euler GPU that just kernel panics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► based on a clock like so and thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► minutes in the kernel panics like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► the thing about a lot of these graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► subsystem things in the window server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► that deal with GPU drivers it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► perfectly fine for you because your GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► driver has no problems and for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► else it doesn't matter how lightly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► heavily you use it if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► connecting or turning them on it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► that your GPU the driver for it has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► bug that gets tripped on average after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► every 30 minutes so I've heard that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► well and I don't know if that's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► me where because I assume I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► one of those weird GPUs but who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► you know that kind of thing like I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► just not willing to take the risk on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► main computer when there are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► widespread reports of problems of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► magnitude the advantages of high sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► are just not very compelling for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► take that risk right now over time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► calculus will change you know over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► it will it will start to become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► annoying that i don't have the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► version cuz like lots of things around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► the Apple ecosystem these days will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► assume that you have a latest version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► will only work correctly or fully with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► lives version especially with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► features that are shared between iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► the Mac things like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► continuity and handoff even simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► things like notes notes has new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► now the h gb c and h and and heap stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► like that's gonna become more annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► over time as my photos app can't edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► the phones that are in it things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► that like that's gonna eventually push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► me over probably within the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► like i'm I'm probably gonna install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► everything if not the point two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► basically right now why should I install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► it like there's no there's but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► not much reason to install it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► there's just a lot of potential for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► there still be pretty serious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► with it that I just don't need to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► one to fix you don't like what I'm blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► one of my rules was that you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► was choosing software or infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► that we were going to build upon one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► my rules was to never be the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► user of anything you know you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► use stuff that like Facebook uses or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► Twitter uses because you know like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► there's any kind of bug at scale they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► will have already hit it and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► will have submitted and fixed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► fixes for it it'll be fixed by them long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► before it's ever a problem for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► it's like why why install the point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► why not let the entire rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► use it first report all the bugs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► Apple to fix them and then install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► point one of the point two like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► it's it's selfish like you should as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► like a social good try to contribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► with everybody but no screw that and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► my computer to work and so I'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► everyone else do that and I'll sit back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and collect the fixes speaking of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► computer reliability my shiny new Space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► Gray 2017 MacBook Pro it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► proven to not be as reliable as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► outgoing eight year old 2009 Mac Pro at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► work because I've had it for what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► two weeks now or something and I came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► one day this week and it was just off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► and I booted up and sure enough it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► kernel panicked in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► night at Korea it was just sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► nobody's using it who knows what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► going on I didn't get anything good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► did do the send you know send report to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► Apple I looked at the thing I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► make heads or tails of it like it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► nothing obvious jumped it didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► look like a full crash report whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► had saved in NVRAM it was like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► information about my system but didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► tell me about what it crash to show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► any symbols or anything like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► like you you know if it wants to match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► my 2009 Mac Pro's performance it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► to not kernel panic again for another 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► years because it did kernel panic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► software they were forcing us all to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► incompatibility with like Zeon's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► something I was that was it was a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► like oh you're the only computer in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► entire company with a xiana and the nd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► the antivirus software kernel panics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► reliably kernel panics Zeon's and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► changed your different antivirus thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► and so that solved that problem so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► are the only panics I had those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► explicable and I could tell what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► doing it I said did we have any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► kernel packs in that one maybe when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► gave away gave away when I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► returned my 2000 iMac for our work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► also like returned you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► stuff that came with it and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► came with it Snow Leopard on a plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► disc nice that's a computer so into a B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► I had some crumpets back but like but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► general it's just I don't it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► to happen like it just and so within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► first few weeks of and this remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► this is running Sierra not High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► but like ten twelve six the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► version of Sierra not not often I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► especially start oh well at least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► boots fast I mean the thing to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► too is like you know these Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► releases on a schedule not one it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► Apple is you know Apple usually ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► high quality stuff you know like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► complain but like the their track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► is pretty good but there's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► hierarchy like you could be pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► that when a new iPhone comes out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► usually pretty solid because they care a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► lot about that and they work really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► on that to make that rock-solid but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► everything else but beneath the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► gets less and less reliable in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► like you can't be sure that a lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► priority release is going to be as solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► everything else has it has to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► ship on a schedule whenever it's ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► and again usually that works out ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► like they were gonna ship High Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► when they did regardless of whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► was done so we got it and it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► close to done there probably aren't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► lot of bugs but that was shipping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► schedule not after hitting a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► quality threshold so it's right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► they do do it on a schedule but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► control scope like even on iOS they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► they control scope so they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► either you give it can can change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► schedule by saying we're gonna push this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► out or you can narrow the scope so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► can ship what is shippable and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► it in iOS 2 they didn't ship that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► feature had the most which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► iMessage syncing that fell out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► release right because you're right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► are shipping on a schedule look we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► ship this because we gotta sell some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► phones here and we got a ship iOS 11 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► whatever was like a month before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► fell out because it's like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► gonna be ready in high sierra a PFS on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► converting spinning discs all fell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► of it and the fusion drives coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► right so that's what they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► do is say we do want to ship on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► schedule but we want to ship quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► software so we have to make a call at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► certain point you're not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► ready in time for the schedule so guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► what feature you get booted out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► do in theory but in practice pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► features out is not a harm free process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► you are left with a code base that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► different than it was before that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► have new interactions that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► anticipate and so you know you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► test that new combination of stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► so it is difficult and I see what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► trying to do and in general that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► modern software development works you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► reasonably fixed schedule especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► something that's like a marketing type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► thing where every year you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► a new version of iOS or whatever and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► just control scope and there's easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► said than done and that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► trying to do but as you said Margo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► you know even though they're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► the Big Show is iOS and then everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► else in the company gets slightly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► of everything slightly less their time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► money people everything about it is less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► how much is it less is it marginally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► less you don't you know it has fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► users right it is also a more mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► product but it is also a product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► makes less money and like so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► neglected for a while because iOS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► gets all the glory and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► but uh in theory there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► articles there was a good one Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► Hackett had two articles about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► about uh high sierra being like Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► Leopard right but Snow Leopard was back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► in the days when Mac os10 was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► pretty firmly in maybe not in the glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► position right and it was an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► product was a very important product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► Apple so when they did the no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► features release a that was a lie and B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► they kind of makes it a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► I mean grants out of dispatch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► released and Snow Leopard if I recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► correctly is that's pretty pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► feature to say no new features but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► days it does feel like like if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► supposed to be a Snow Leopard doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► feel very snow up or it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► like they took Sierra and just polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► it because you said Marco Sierra still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► has some rough edges that just seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► have never been resolved and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► adding more stuff and it's not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► reliable and faster yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► like I don't like I said I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► installed that I just that's my spidey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► Wow great I mean III have like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► put this on the adorable in my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► computer and so far the only thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► I've really noticed is that I can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► use my unlock with my cellular Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► watch again like I discussed earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► like otherwise it doesn't really seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► any different to me and in fact it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► so similar to me that I intend to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► through Stephens review not only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► I want to read it in general but to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► me what it is that's different because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► differences are Safari which I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► previously put on my Sierra builds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► photos which I don't use so once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► take those away it's kind of like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► I'm sure there's other good stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► but yeah whatever well and I and I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► that like you like I mentioned Housley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► Sierra still has these bluetooth issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► that don't seem to be fixed with High [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► Sierra have they fixed them or did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► just move on and now they break and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► other things I hope I don't know I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► they fix them but you never know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► these kind of releases that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► reasons why I haven't sold yet but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► you know what you said in case you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► you that you could barely even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► tell that you had upgraded that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► know for for a release like this where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► you know they really weren't user facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► changes that's what you want that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► is the ideal case yeah yeah now we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► see I mean you know your your track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► record of reporting problems to us with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► your computer is pretty poor like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► might tell us in six months oh yeah by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► the way ten rebooting everyday at noon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► and I don't know why like hey that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► problem yeah it's just been fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► haven't wanted to take it in like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► but you know like I hope when I install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► it I don't notice and that maybe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► trackpad a mouse stay connected like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► that's that's what I want to have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► there I don't want any excitement there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► because and like and there's a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► Mac OS that I hope Apple is working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► and I hope they do improve long term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► like Stephens review had this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► paragraph towards the end that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► was listing like a whole bunch of areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► in Mac OS that are still big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► and could really use improvements big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► and small if you think Mac OS is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and that it's perfected and that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► nothing more to do you aren't thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► about the problem enough the him Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► still has tons of places it can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► could use lots of improvements big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► small right now it looks like apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► really doing much of that I hope that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► just because we're like in the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► middle stages of those efforts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► there's nothing to show yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► there's still tons of things to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► Mac's awesome and to make them better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► and to modernize them that appear to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► be happening so again I hope they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► are happening and they're just not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► yet and and I think what we've seen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► Apple in the last few years is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► seem like there was a period a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► ago where they really were not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► on the Mac much at all but it also seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► like a few years ago they they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► had a change of heart on that front and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► that they began reinvesting a lot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► Mac again and that resulted in things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► like the touch bar and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► personally enjoyed the touch bar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► honestly think it was a pretty big miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► and I think the the lack of any touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► indicate that Apple realizes that - I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► don't know but the fact that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► investing in the Mac is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► good I hope they continue to invest not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► just in you know cool Hardware tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► fundamentally moving the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► forward with High Sierra they laid some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► new groundwork with the Windows Server I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► hope that was a big deal for moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► everything forward I hope it succeeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► and I hope they maintain it properly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► iron out the bugs and and to fix all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► these subsystems that might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► broken and move the platform forward we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► haven't seen that yet but I hope that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► thanks to our three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► Squarespace Backblaze and jamp now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► mean to begin because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► Johnny research Marco and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► let him cuz it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► accidental you can find the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► at a CAS e yl is s so that's Casey list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► and a are Co AR m and T Marco Arment SI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4551">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► so uh you know how there was a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► Marco really enjoyed adding just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► random things to his Twitter bio and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► you know he would be coffee enthusiast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► and then he would be analyst and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► there were a couple other ones after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► that I don't remember that elephant in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► the room that was my favorite one yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► remember that but there wasn't adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► things that was that was one thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► changing things in the bio the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► that I am now changing my Twitter bio to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► car journalist the reason being for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► last week I have had a loaner car from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► Fiat Chrysler of America really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► loaner car is not what I hoped it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► it's not the thing that I was promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► and I will explain friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► Sam at Boyle Smid who we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► earlier of the wheel bearings podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► which you should listen to if and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► mentioned this a few times then past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► if you ever wanted neutral but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► someone who doesn't who actually knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► what they're talking about I'm like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► three idiots you would like wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► bearings um anyway Sam wrote me I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► to say it was in May or June and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► hey if you wanted to if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► take a spin with that car and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► going to tell you which car it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► could probably arrange that and you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► I think I told this tale of woe already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► once in June I was told you it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► think the week after WTC we will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► you this car as a loaner and then right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► before it was my turn then the tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► exploded apparently or some such and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► then they needed to get a new tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► shipped in because apparently this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► not an off-the-shelf tire a month or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► later they were they were going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► me the same car again and then as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► coming down 95 from Washington DC to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► apparently picked up a chip in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► windshield or like a shatter and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► windshield and so I turned around went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► fiat-chrysler of america has loaned me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► did if I'm not mistaken I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► that's what it was I do have the sticker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► well not in front of me but I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► the sticker yes Jeep Grand Cherokee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► Limited 4x4 it has about 5000 miles on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► the clock and it is it's a thing it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► thing is that your review that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► whole review what happens when you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► that big Volvo SUV then we get this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► Volvo and they're like he likes giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► shopping carts let's send them a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► shopping cart well so yeah so here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► problem if I hadn't had the Volvo in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► family I think I would have been fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► impressed by this car but having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► Volvo in the family this car is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► American version of a luxury SUV which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► is to say it's not that luxurious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► it does have big cupholders so it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► have a lot of really good things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► it does have a fairly robust Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► setup that has some really neat features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► it does in that that's you connect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► letter you connect and it's been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► in Chrysler cars for a while now it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► some neat things like it'll read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► your text messages you can even put on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► infotainment so it will no longer offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► to read you your text messages Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► connectivity for media worked reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► well you know all that is is decent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► has a backup camera it does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► 360 camera it has an auto raising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► lowering lift gate it actually has a AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► plug so a not a DC plug like a cigarette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► lighter I'm talking a full on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► same kind of outlet you would find in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► your house plug-in in the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► center console so for the for the rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► seats which is super cool I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► they had put these in cars before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► you know to get a decent one of those as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► an aftermarket thing it's like a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► hundred bucks and this is just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► car overall that's nice car you know did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► a lot of things reasonably well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► particular model was the v6 the v6 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► it does do the stop-start thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► actually I think was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► smoother on the stop start than Aaron's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► Volvo - believe it or not so so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► everything takes a turn wait as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► building and pricing this thing to match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► what you're saying the next step that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► have to choose is the color and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► know I only have one question it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► white you jackass yes it is a dark dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► dark grey what is the official color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► where does it say it it looks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► comes in about 16 different Gray's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► exterior color is granite crystal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► metallic clear coat exterior paint what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► this thing is is almost the same price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► as you know the base price was 44 de the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► sticker the you a 4x4 it is a 4x4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► Cherokee Limited 4x4 this is a 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► model oh yeah sorry I'm a 39:9 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► that's the base price optional equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► includes the customer preferred package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► 23h which is apparently luxury group 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► which is the $4,300 option that includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► leather-trimmed seats with perforated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► inserts ooh we need to talk about heated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► and cooled seats actually because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► the thing main sense lane departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► warning plus parallel and perpendicular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► Park Assist have you tried auto parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► in the Tesla I have does it work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► works mostly but it's so slow I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah it's it's I tried it once with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► perpendicular parking and it was garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► and actually to be fair so was Erin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► finally finally a $595 blind spot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► cross path detection and a destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► charge of a thousand dollars total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► sticker price ladies and gentlemen forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► eight thousand two hundred thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► dollars which is quite a bit less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► we paid for Erin's Volvo so it it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► like the American take on a luxury SUV a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► lot of the stuff is nice and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► have a lot of the bits and bobs like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► you know radar cruise control but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► much of it it gets wrong like this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► connect thing and this is gonna this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► isn't that interesting without without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► visual aid and so you just have to go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► faith until I eventually write my blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► post but the UConnect thing is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► assault on my eyeballs it is a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► buttons everything is gray everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► blends together there are neat features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► about it so as an example when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► the Bluetooth like media screen there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► a little teeny tiny button that says map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► and then it will do a popover of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► current map so you can look at where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► are without leaving the context the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► Bluetooth screen that's a kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► idea but it isn't pinch-to-zoom or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► know or or whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► which Aaron's car is the resolution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► the screen was not very good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► Aaron's car I wouldn't call it retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► but it's it's it's of that kind of talib [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► er right it's it's a decently high res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► screen this thing was looked like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► five years old and this is a 2017 model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► and here again as I was starting to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► frustrating because without Aaron's car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► actually think I would have liked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► car a lot more and and when I met Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► way back when you know she had said her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► like fantasy car in a lot of ways was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► Grand Cherokee she's always really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► them and you know what I always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► liked them I always thought they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► really nice car or trucks I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► but as compared to the Volvo which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► all of the things this does and more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► does every single one of them better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► except of course going offroad I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► choose the Volvo any day the week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► twice on Sunday knob feel it was maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► seven or eight it's a nice if it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► nice but it's not it is it really is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► you can tell it's just it's just not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► there and the things that really drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► me nuts about it were things where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► so as an example most of you listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► probably live in an area where at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► stoplight and in for Americans that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► left for you know those crazies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► drive on the wrong side of the road it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► Americans if you're trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► left let's say that there are two lanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► to make a left-hand turn so you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► presumably like a multi-lane Road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► you're gonna you're at a stoplight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► you're gonna make a left-hand turn which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► is the difficult turn for an American to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► make so you stop the car and the stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► start probably kicks into the car yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► actually fine you go to take off once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► the light turns green the car starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► right up that actually works really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► and like I said it's actually a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► smoother than Aaron's car surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► especially since it's two more cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► and immediately wait we we because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► ends up happening is it thinks I perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► because I'm an idiot and I'm the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► American that ever uses my turn signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► it thinks that you're signaling to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► a lane change and it's trying to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► you there's somebody next to you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► on the highway at like 70 miles an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► that is a useful thing but when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► on a surface street accelerating from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► zero miles an hour to 15 or 20 or 30 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► 40 the moment you leave 0 miles an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► and all of a sudden you get great great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► great oh my word is it frustrating and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► lot of the roads in that in the area in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► which I live are multi-lane roads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► each direction so there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► times when I'm being - I'll be making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► left adjacent to another car and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► time I mean we we it is unbelievably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► frustrating so here's an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► where it's a great idea in principle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► it's just poorly executed the UConnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► thing with like all the Bluetooth bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► and bobs and all of that great idea in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► principle not a good execution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► furthermore where's my damn car play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► it's just infuriating and so so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► this car and I know I say this about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► many things but it was death by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► thousand paper cuts I in a lot of ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► but God it was terrible any thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► about the car and then I'd like to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► little inside baseball about what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► the delivery process was like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► disable stop start yes and it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► a physical button right there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► dashboard I've never had a car with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► but I haven't so desperately I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► would not buy one if I couldn't turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► off and have it remember the setting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► know it's really not that bad in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► grand no no no no you would notice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► noticed you would absolutely notice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► you do get used to it and especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► you drive a car with three pedals I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► I understand the theory and like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► I would I might leave it on on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► big like a mini van or an SUV or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► consider a real car like you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► me but I just don't want that I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► true chops stop-start is wood Marko has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► nothing is perfect nothing is moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► drive it has stopped but then when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► goes again he doesn't have to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► the engine to start and I know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► not waiting I know they start really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► fast the starter motors are fine they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► built to be to be started you'll you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► know maybe you'll notice but you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► they'll never be any legs I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► don't want that I don't want it at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► it still sucks no I mean like Tim to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► like all like start/stop CV T's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► these new autos that have like a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► different gears in them to me it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► of like when LCD came out for TVs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► LCDs were ok but they and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► fairly simple but then towards the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► know middle and end of the LCD era in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► TVs they started adding all these crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► hacks to try to boost their spec so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► that's when you start getting like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► weird dynamic backlighting and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► sorts like weird hacks that really were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► just like piles upon piles of hacks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► made certain things worse all in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► effort to try to boost specs towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► end of their life before we switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► superior technology of OLED and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► that to me is what gas engine cars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► going through for like the last 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► or so they are trying so hard to eke out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► every single last mile per gallon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► new spec requirements and to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► competitive and everything but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► just adding all these crazy hacks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► add up to being a lot less fun to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► or a lot less nice of a drive in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► ways and to certain people who care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► about such things and you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► this is it these are just all temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► hacks on the way to the next thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► is electric but you know on in cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► things move more slowly and so it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► you know we're gonna be in the tradition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► for a while but ultimately we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► look back on all these crazy gaff engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► hacks as just these awful relics of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► transitional time and also the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► stuff this is kind of the I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► in the mouse mouse motor seatbelt error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► I don't know if the mouse model not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► getting it right but remember do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► remember the seatbelts there was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► there was a requirement I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► like a government requirement in the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► that you either had to have airbags or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► automatic motorised seatbelts do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► remember the seatbelts that go along a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► little track along like the a-pillar Hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► what those were for yeah because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► like before car makers weren't ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► put airbags in yet so like well we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► got this bottle of car and we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► figured out the whole airbag thing yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► or we don't have a supplier or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► haven't certified it or the car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► almost done or whatever so they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► put in the motorized seatbelt so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► you open the door this little motorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► thing with a round down you're a pillar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► with the shoulder harness attached to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► and then you'd get in the car and close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► the door and they would go run and motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► back up to like over your shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► that's what my Saturn had and though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► first of all those are an abomination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► and I never would have bought a car with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► them and they're terrible but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► like Oh from now on safety features will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► just be more and more invasive but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► like we figured that out eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► got the airbag thing figured out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► motorized seatbelts went away so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► like sensors are in the little motorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► seatbelt there where it's like sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► governments are gonna require certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► things or whatever but a lot of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► poorly implemented like Casey's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► Lane detection thing that is telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► them he's gonna go into a lane where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► somebody is there and really he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► making a left along with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► other people right sensors are good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► should have more than we should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► more cameras you know all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► like makes it easy to park and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► the backup cameras are mandated in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► models and later in the u.s. I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► like those are all good but a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► early implementations are not good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► so we get angry like oh the safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► don't want to have all these electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► sensors blue Konami I want the sensors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► don't want them blooping at me so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► hoping that these the the incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► annoying blooping sensors we could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► we get this figured out and it settles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► down into the current state of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► safety equipment like airbags where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► don't notice them they're small the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► steering wheels aren't gigantic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► of them anymore and we just all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► except the safety benefits of them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► don't know it's been a while with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► sensors and almost every review it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► raises like mentions hey can you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► that stuff off like in some ways I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► always kind of glad that I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► that more expensive option on my Accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► for the Honda sensing packages stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► because I have the backup camera which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► is the most important thing but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► other sensing stuff for like lane change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► and whatever like I guess it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► easier than turning my head but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► probably still turn my head anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► mean forever it's worth the both the BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► and the Tesla systems for these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► have not been annoying they have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► annoyed me at times where they shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► they've been they've been great the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► Volvo's is very good as well the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► problem I have with the Volvo is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► been a couple of times when it's done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► panic stop on behalf of the driver when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► really it wasn't necessary which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► startling but that's only been a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► of times where we're by comparison with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► the Jeep you know half the time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► driving in a couple other thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► actually before we do a little inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► baseball remote start on a car that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► can only cool once the cars started that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► Aaron's car can be remote started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► curiously enough from the Volvo app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► cannot be remote started from the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► fob which is kind of backwards from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► I would expect but this thing had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► remote start right on the key fob and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► that was super nice ventilated seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► there cool I guess and I don't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► to be punny but it didn't make that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► of a difference I certainly liked it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► if it was like a one or two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► dollar option on a phantom car I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► about to buy I would probably tick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► check box but if it was like a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5578">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► hundred thousand dollar option no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► cooled seats heated seats are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► beasts heated seats are easy oh very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► much yeah yeah cooled seats i I've I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► had a number of different ones my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► current car doesn't have them because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► the time I bought a Tesla didn't offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► them I think it still doesn't the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► cool seats are implemented makes a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► difference in how useful or not useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► taking like an offshoot of event from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► the main system and cooling you that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► are they just blowing air like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► their own little fan do they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► own compressor even like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► different degrees of cooled seats and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► makes a big difference also like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► issue I had with the the m5 had it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► almost never used it because the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► the cut of the fabric on the sport seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► didn't have a lot of room for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► big the big areas with the holes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► would ventilate so like it would cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► like part of my you know thighs but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► like the whole area that needed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► cooled and there wasn't a lot of airflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► like the way you'd sit in it we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► kind of like block it shut the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► ever I have felt yet a while back Tiff's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► air-conditioned seats that they would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► was it was like sitting on a glorious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► air-conditioned air hockey table like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► you would you would feel it it cooled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► really strongly to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► eventually or later we get cold you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► it down and I that never I never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► turn it down in the m5 like that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► always like I was just dying for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► but for what I understand there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► lot of different levels of how how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► these things can be so I'm not familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► with the one that was in your your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► know big Jeep monstrosity but maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► was just not one of the good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► yeah very well could be and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► that's mostly it obviously I will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► know write some amount of review for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► website about this what was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► about it was apparently you know Fiat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► and all the other car manufacturers have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► you know these fleets of vehicles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► there's you know presumably one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► East Coast one of the Midwest and one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► the west coast and so when this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► being arranged you know I had come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► find out that that the car was in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► actually thought at the time DC it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► out it was actually in Baltimore which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► is about a three-hour drive from where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► am and so when we were arranging it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► had assumed that that meant I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► to like meet the driver halfway somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► and like pick the car up and then drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► it the rest away but as it turns out no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► when you're pressed oh they come to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► they drove the car all the way to me we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► spoke for about two minutes they handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► me the keys and then they drove back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► that in tomorrow they're going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► to my house I will presumably speak with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► them for two minutes and then they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► go back to Baltimore which I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► thought was was the most bonkers thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► there was no formal or implied agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► that I would write or talk about any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► this really um obviously I wanted to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► part because I feel like I kind of owed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► it to them but they never said like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► has to be a good review it has to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► long or anything like that I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► never really even said you have to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► about it they just said hey if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► the car you can have the car and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► yes please it's a very odd thing and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► and I'm very thankful to Sam for kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► arranging this for me and we'll see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► we get the car that I was originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► slated to get because you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► said this was kind of the apology tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► car we'll see if I ever do get my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► on the thing I originally wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► and well we'll find out is it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► same company it is it is from Fiat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► Chrysler America I mean maybe so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► have been a couple of times what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► been given review samples of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► it's similar in this in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► you know they don't I've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► asked to provide a positive review in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► exchange for receiving a thing I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► I'm sure there are like less ethical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► companies that will ask press that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► don't think they would last very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► doing that because that's like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► massive ethical problem and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► know the press would not react kindly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► being asked to do that so you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► one's ever asked me for a review or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► positive review or anything but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► implication is always that they expect a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► review mmm it's never a usually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► it's never like I don't like sign a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► contract saying I'm going to review it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► but usually the implication is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► sending me these things for me to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► them usually when I give a particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► negative review I don't usually hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► from that company again so given your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► summary of this car right I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► how this company works and how they deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► with their you know their press outreach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► and review units but I maybe wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► expect you to get whatever car that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► actually wanted the relationship might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► end at this point I'm just saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► shouldn't work that way but it does work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► if for a lot of companies a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► time so and this is honestly this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► part of the problem with that style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► review this is one of the you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► you combine it also with like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► publications this is also one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► reasons why there's often a conflict of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► interest and and one of the reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► like you know I think Consumer Reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► famously just goes and buys their cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► to review like they don't take review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► samples because that can be seen as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► affecting the outcome or you know as and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► and even if you are even if you try so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► hard you know as the reviewer to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► neutral and to be you know objective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► about everything it still does make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► feel better about a company if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► something for free it does affect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► way you frame it in your mind even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► subconsciously it's very very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► try to turn that off and try to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► justification I think to publications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► and reviewers who don't accept freebies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► and who just buy the things they review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► so the corollary to this is the Consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► Reports has terrible car reviews and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► good car magazine it's a good car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► magazines like Car and Driver have spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► decades crapping on entire brands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► lines of cars and companies just decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► after decade of GM makes crap everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► they make is terrible and they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► keep sending on their cars right so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► it's obviously you're not Car and Driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► so Marco is probably right in your case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► right they don't need you but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► big enough and important enough they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► just keep sending you cars even if every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► single time you send them like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► crap on their cars right and they'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► things pretty much just as harsh as what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► Casey said only in slightly a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► language like cum and less than all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► comparison tests the summary reviews are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► terrible I mean how I read you the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► automotive wallpaper do you think I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► sending them their cars but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► going to they're gonna keep sending them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► because of their car and driver so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► possible to get enough clout to I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► you know people complain like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► complains about Car and Driver is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► on BMWs payroll because they love BMWs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► few years but guess what that changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► by the time they added electric steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► starts screwing up all their cars and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► changed a little bit with the bangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► error with styling so now people now all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► the the conspiracy theorists don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► what to do it was just like I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► were paid off with BMW BMW losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► comparison tests and all the reviews are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► negative so you know some some form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► decent journalistic independence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► possible even if you get free cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► going all depressed or isn't written on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► it but look at Casey is not Car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► Driver so I don't know it's gonna shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► out yeah you're right once once you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► big enough that they have to send your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► review sample just to be relevant in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► press like if you're big enough for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► then yeah then a lot of this stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► applying to you because yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► gonna Center to you anyway but it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► you're a smaller reviewer or when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► just try and get started it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► really hard to to to risk getting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► company's bad side because that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► cut off your supply of review units uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► weird thing is the the nicer the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► like sort of objectively the harder it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► is to get those cars to the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► sending you the car so a lot of car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► magazines have a lot of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► getting the supercars or the top-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► luxury brands because they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► anyone possibly saying anything negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► about their you know half a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► dollar car and they don't need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► because no one reading that magazine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► gonna buy that car anyway so they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► to do like what Top Gear used to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► like find an owner who's nice enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► let them drive their car because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► can't get any funding manufacturer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► manufacturer won't even return their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► calls it's like no thanks why would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► let you say anything bad about our car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► we're just gonna say that our car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► wonderful and sell it for millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► dollars and they're all already sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► right we don't need your car magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► and nobody subscribing to your stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► magazine has enough money to buy our car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► anyway so forget it so it's not all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► them obviously but that's that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► likely the case when you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► get a car to because of some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► that says why would we even risk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► saying anything remotely negative about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► our car why would you risk you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► comparing it directly to into one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► competitors card we don't want that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► happen it's all downside for us yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► I haven't talked to Sam about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► best approach is because I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► write about it in some way shape or form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► I I'm almost sure of it but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► if maybe I hold that until I get a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► and the thing that I was promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► originally is something that is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► more in my speed and so I'm much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► inclined to enjoy it in fact I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► feared when I before I realized I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► getting it anytime soon I had feared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► that I would like it enough that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► would end up choosing that car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► replace the 335 whenever that time comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► so it is much more in my wheelhouse this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► this phantom car that I'm hoping to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► you keep saying Fiat Chrysler I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► is he getting a rebate that restyled me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► out of the Fiat 124 but it is good now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► that you say you think you're replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► your car it's got to be one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► stupid what do they make what's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► they don't own Cadillac do they they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► I was worried you're trying to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► of those weird like angled Cadillac m3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► things well I almost bought the CTSV I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► trying to think of what your replaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► BMW what the hell does just Chrysler I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► think I'm guessing if Casey's looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► replace is BMW it's gonna be some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► of small hatchback that's fast and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► has has a way worse interior than his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► BMW that's made by Chrysler I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► I don't know anything about cars Dodge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► is it anyway so let me suggest something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► even though this is not to the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► journalistic integrity you gave you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► review of this car you just did it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► on this show podcasts are wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► because nobody who doesn't listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► show is gonna like get linked to this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► the company's PR division and be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► look at this guy we're not gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► you're you're gonna be relatively safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► from any kind of negative repercussions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► that might arise with this company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► you're still trying to work with if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► just leave this here don't make the blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► post know if you gotta make the blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► post I'm doing why is the only thing he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► has going for him is his integrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► that's all he's got but he you gave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► honest review here and you could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► say like look if they ask which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► won't so don't even bother but if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► would ask like hey you never made a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► post just say like you know look it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► really didn't work out for me this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► is not for me I didn't feel I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► feel right making this giant trashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► blog post about it like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► like you gave your review here you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► that's it like you've done your duty as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► a car journalist which I guess you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► now and your regulations by the way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► you've done your duty you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► make a blog post that would be very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► for people in the company to see fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► notice and then tell someone else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► dealing with you hey you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► they would say thank you for your honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► constructive feedback we will take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► under advisement they would the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► people wouldn't but the doesn't a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► you're not talking about the Chrysler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► 300 are you there's no cars that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► pretty sure John's off the list that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► right I would refuse a review car from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► Chrysler I would refuse you refuse a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► review car from Ferrari no I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► refuse this isn't the one I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► Ferrari call me at any Q get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► refuse that what else am I missing Dodge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► Chrysler it is it the Alfa Romeo they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► not Fiat Chrysler are they maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► the new alphas I actually do think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► pretty cool looking I I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► would buy one but they do look pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► they look horrendous but they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► great reviews they came out the tops in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► the recent uh comparison with like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► 3-series like in most types of cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► Julia was number one like it is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► car I just cannot stand how it looks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► and there's also the questions of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► you have a will fall apart because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► know no fair enough yep soat willing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► the chat says that he ditched his m2 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► a Quadra fog leo yeah that looks pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► cool but it's like my favorite thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► about this is that on its product page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► along with its specs it lists its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► Nurburgring lap time that's just that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► just that's just a Julia it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► particular model of Julia there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► anymore alphas I named the 4c and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► Julia it's not the all I said was said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► it's not the 4c that's all I've told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► and you said it's not the Julia - right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► I guess the did I say that okay so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► the Julia fine fine I hope you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► right well then and then it's the Julia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► yeah that's really better now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► you're an SUV person is it a Stella vo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► anyway the Julia is a really good car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► and I think you'll really like it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► can stomach the looks and if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► fall apart I absolutely can stomach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► looks the thing I might not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► stomach is the transmission but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► stick is only Europe that's right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► reviews I've read say that even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► automatic that is a really good car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► think you will like I have read the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► but but if you are concerned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► expensive repairs and reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► perhaps Alfa Romeo it's not the brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► for you that's the problem so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► know we'll see we'll see if this 4c ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► shows rx re not the four see if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► my guess is probably not but but yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► mean this is basically an m3 competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► and and it looks - I think it looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► I know you hate it I think it looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► and if you can if you can leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► transmission out of it oh man I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► this would be a fun car to own so if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► when I ever got a spin with it it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► here's my problem with this number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► price to performance ratio here it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► like in order to get a car that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► actually faster than your 335 you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► to go Quadrifoglio which is 72 thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6475">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► admittedly noticeably faster which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► nice like that it would be a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► upgrade but your ear then you're then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► secondly if you're gonna lose a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► and not have a DCT and be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► spend seventy two thousand dollars get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► use p85d yeah yeah yeah well at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► point if you're not gonna have a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► get a Tesla and then get a faster car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► this makes better noises no test leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► no the Tesla might be faster this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► lighter than the Tesla - you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► gonna care the noises it makes when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► are squished against the back of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► seat from the p85d that you can get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► for that price it's not that much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► than this thing handles better well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► mean if you're getting to 60 in 3.8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► seconds you're already in a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► you are way faster than what I'm used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► and the sound oh that sound is sound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► in this price bracket it's 70 grand like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► came out on top against other cars some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► of which cost more so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► there's a cheaper car that is better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► have this out there today and I and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► pretty sure if they had thrown a Model S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► into that comparison were to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► way in the back because despite it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► really fast it is like a 5000 pound car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► and they would get destroyed and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► handling tests that's fair but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► like if this car was available in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► stick or a DCT I would say awesome go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► for it but because you care so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► about that stick and because this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► available on that stick I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► would be I think you would miss it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► if you're gonna miss it go electric what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► you have other great benefits and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► performance anyway or get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► different than how they stick and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► probably enjoy it more I bet I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► your your beloved Golf R comes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► stick right oh it absolutely does I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► you would have more fun driving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► than driving this that's probably true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► but nevertheless I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► something to be said for for a car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► is kind of rare kind of interesting kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► of unique and has basically a Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► engine within it I mean that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► I don't know I I like the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► Julia Quadrifoglio quite a while quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► lot but I think Marco is onto something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► that in pure fun I would probably enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► the Gulf are more in part because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► all wheel drive and as much as I fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► myself a really skilled driver the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► of the matter is I'm a ham-fisted driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► and having all-wheel drive would keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► out of trouble now less trouble well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► know what I mean but I and I'd want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► have three pedals I really would but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► know Civic type-r if you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► maybe not fast enough to get into real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► trouble super fun you'll find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► in an action movie with those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► what that friends I mean the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► like if you if you want fun you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► stick like that's I know you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► you you know this is true yeah this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► would be really fast and you'd have fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS4p6Hg/6654">TS</a>]
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