Cortex 56: Castles Made of Sand
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gray I need your help yeah how do you
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break a full week sleep cycle home Mike
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Mike I need your help where have you
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we'll get to that tell me what's going
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on with you well I mean I've come back
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from my holy day my holy day is over and
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I'm suffering from pretty bad jetlag I
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thought that I had mostly gotten over
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jetlag as a problem in my life like it
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takes me a day or two and I just we
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think you thought you thought you saw
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jet lag no this is a general problem I
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wouldn't say that I feel like I solved
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it but it's more that like I've gotten
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used to my pattern that if I just do
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things in a certain way for like a day
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or two just like make sure I stay awake
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embrace the fact that I won't sleep the
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next day wake up at a normal time and
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then I'm good that's usually how I deal
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with this stuff no matter where I am
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like even if I'm on the west coast it
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just takes me like two days and I can
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get back into it and that's mostly
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because I tend to live like close to
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East Coast time in London you know like
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I'm usually like going to bed at 2:00
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a.m. and I wake up yeah you stay up
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pretty late yeah so so it helps me
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adjust relatively well but this time
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this time is not good like I've been
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home for three or four days and I'm just
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not sleeping and I feel terrible most of
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the day and then like it comes to about
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7 o'clock at night and I'm wired and
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ready to go yeah you hope you have all
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of my sympathies jet lag jet lag is the
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absolute worst surely like how is nobody
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fixed this problem
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why isn't there like a surefire pill to
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take or some kind of beverage to drink
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it just fixes it yeah that is what I
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want I feel like there should be some
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kind of refreshing beverage you could
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just drink and it's like oh great they
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just give it to you when you get off the
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plane yeah now it turned out all I
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needed all I needed was some
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electrolytes at the right time
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and now now I'm set but now I've heard
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that there are like one of those
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Dreamliner planes changes the oxygen
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level and apparently that's supposed to
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help I'm not sure if I believe that
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either but obviously jet lag is one of
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those things because the symptoms are
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like they're hard to define symptoms and
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they're slightly different for everybody
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and this this then breeds a whole world
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of home remedies and just superstition
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around what works or what doesn't work
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just stand on your head and count
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backwards from ten you fixed it
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I I have tried so many so many different
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things and I just I have found nothing
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nothing has any consistent success with
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trying to minimize it okay I guess
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asterisk the only thing I have found
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that successfully works is simply
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refusing to acknowledge the time zone of
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the place that you are in that works
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yeah that no I have found no doesn't
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work for a month though like I feel like
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I would have not really gotten anything
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useful done if I spent four weeks on
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London time in various places in the US
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I feel like I would have I really should
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have just not made that trip if that's
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what I was planning to do right yeah
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it's impossible it's not gonna work out
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for you Mike so so I I have I have
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nothing to help you with this you were
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supposed to be my long-term travel guru
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oh and this is this is the one thing I
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truly need you know is this it this is
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the one this is the one thing that you
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truly need and I have I have failed to
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deliver on this you didn't help me with
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laundry really and or just dealing with
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emotional crawler so this was the one
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thing that I desperately need from you
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that I was hoping for real gist
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CGP grey Brandt life hack and I have
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received just deal with it and or don't
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change your time which is you know never
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of those things neither of those things
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are helpful to me now right yeah no I I
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I understand the reason why I was also
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asking like I need your help with this
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is because one I too would like a
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solution to jetlag that it's in
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magical but the other thing is I have I
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have also since this summer I have not
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been dealing with jetlag like I've been
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home long enough that jetlag is not a
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problem
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but what I have been dealing with is
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clearly my whole sleep cycle is just
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messed up from an entire summer of
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strain schedules and frequent travel and
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it's not jetlag but it's kind of a
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virtual jetlag when you're trying to
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simply iron out your sleep schedule and
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this has been the like the bane of my
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last several weeks is is just trying to
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get my brain back into what I know is
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the optimal schedule for me for work and
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for happiness and it's just like I
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cannot I cannot do it like I can feel my
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brain resisting getting put back into a
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regular schedule after two months three
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months without a regular schedule and as
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well for me the irony is not lost upon
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the fact that I have returned home with
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this terrible sleep cycle and what is
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probably the busiest two weeks of my
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year these two weeks are the busiest two
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weeks of your year iPhone season oh of
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course I was thinking I was thinking why
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is Mike so busy in early September
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but yes by the time of course episode
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comes out the iPhone will have been
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shown to the world or will about to be
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shown to the world so by the time most
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people hear this they're even getting
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ready for an iPhone keno or have already
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seen it that's exciting so they're
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living in a future where we have or do
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not have face unlocking we have or do
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not have touch ID and a big screen you
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know that the people they know gray they
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had they lured that over us right now
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we're stuck in the past we're stuck in
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the past
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yeah although somehow while we're
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recording this show it feels like we're
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already in in that glorious new iPhone
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future yeah so while I'm talking to you
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right now it feels slightly like
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time-traveling but it isn't but yes of
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course for for you in particular for a
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man who does so many tech and tech
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adjacent shows
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would be the busiest season and not a
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good time to have a bunch of jet lag
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interfering with the rest of your work
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no luckily they didn't have the event or
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announced the event before I came home
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like who or that it just didn't overlap
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that like it badly luckily when they
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announced it they announced it was like
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it's gonna be in two weeks time so I was
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able to just come home and then try and
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deal with myself and then get back to
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work again so unfortunately I will just
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I will just live with my weird sleep
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cycle for now and hopefully in October I
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will fixed it ready to go back to the US
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again so hooray pray for her jet lag I
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guess by the time that I get this thing
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fixed I'll have to break it again this
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is what happens this is what happens
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when you have to do a bunch of travel
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it's just it's it's frustrating and and
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this cut this kind of thing really does
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take a while to sort out like getting it
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getting into I find for me anyway
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personally like maybe the number one
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predictor of how well a day is going to
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go is if I got up at the time that I'm
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supposed to like if you had to if you
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had to take a single data point and see
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if it was most correlated with what I
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would consider a productive day that
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would be by far and away the single data
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point that would matter most and it's it
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is very because uh like unlike unlike so
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many other things in our working life
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sleep is a thing that is is like you you
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really have no control over it you can't
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you can't just knuckle down and and get
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to sleep harder then you're trying to
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get to sleep at this very moment and at
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least for me like if you wake up and
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your body wasn't ready to wake up it
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feels like you have woken up dead it's
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it's just awful and it's it's so it's so
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hard to do anything productive I don't
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know it's like a thing that is just
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interesting that at least I find that as
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as time has gone on like this matters
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more and more as a thing that is is
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super important it is the thing that I
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focus on and try to keep on a regular
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schedule but yeah after after the summer
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it like this is a this is a thing that I
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have personally been struggling to get
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back into a regular schedule for awhile
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but it's like I can just I can feel my
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brain just pulling against against the
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regular schedule even though of course
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like it would be better for me in the
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long run but like it doesn't that
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doesn't help you in the short run if you
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could choose to not sleep but lose 25%
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of your productivity would you take that
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wait I get an additional third of my
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life back so you get all the time back
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okay but you want 25% less productive
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would you take that deal
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yeah yeah that seems like a great deal
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I'm getting 33 I'm getting a third of my
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life back and I'm only losing a quarter
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of productivity but it seems like an
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amazing deal okay what if you lost a
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third of your productivity so it just it
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just ended up balancing out would you
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take it then okay so when you say when
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you say balance out you mean I get the
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same amount of stuff done that I get
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done now but I'm also I never have to
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sleep yeah yeah what's the trade-off who
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wouldn't take that but I feel like
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people enjoy sleeping right I thought
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that this is why I'm assuming so there
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are people in or that just will prefer
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to sleep if wishes have it all just
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ended up working out the same just take
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the sleep but like I would say even take
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the the option where it balances out
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because I would just end up playing more
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video games or whatever yeah I mean I
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mean I guess I guess I could say in a
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minor in a very minor way I enjoy sleep
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but that's only because sleep is it gets
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it's the your brain makes you like it
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because it's the solution to a problem
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I only ever enjoy after has happened I
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never want to do it yeah yeah oh yes
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right now actually right now saying that
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I it's half past 4:00 in the afternoon
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might be pretty feel like I could do
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have a good nap right now but I guess
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the answer to your question is now
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like I don't I don't feel like oh asleep
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is the best it's like I would much
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rather have the hours back I don't I
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don't see sleep as a recreational
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activity that is worth a third of my
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life and I can't imagine anybody would
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would see it that way I think it has a
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lot to do with how you'd like to spend
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your time right like part of it is
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because I would prefer to be working as
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much as I can when I'm awake and then
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spend the rest of the time just playing
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video games and doing the things that I
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this now if people would like to sleep
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click a link it will take you somewhere
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I just want to get a idea now sleep on
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of the home remedies for how to take
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care of jet lag unsolicited but
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doubtless will be there you need to
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sleep Mike can take a little nap during
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I sure I see what's next in our document
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I'll just get you talking and I'll pop
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figure I know what you're gonna say so
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I'll just go away this is so far behind
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little bit
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they've moved house and of course
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there's lots of things to do and one of
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delivered before my arrival but as I had
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family event to open the box
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the bed we removed the plastic covering
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mattress self inflates with in mere
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mattress that I used to sleep on full of
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thanks to Casper for supporting this
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show and thanks to Casper for giving me
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excellent night sleep at my parents
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house so of course with the imminent
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release of a new iPhone comes a new
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release of iOS iOS 11 is just around the
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corner it's going to be with us soon and
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we have because we're the kind of people
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that we are Mike we've been running the
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betas for awhile I told myself like I
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tell myself every year look I'm not
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going to install the beta I'm gonna wait
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a while but of course I have to give in
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very first public beta that was
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available and I was not able to resist
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this is this is kind of a good a good
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time to talk about a couple of little
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frustrations and also what's going on
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with the doc and our home screens what
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do you say Mike are you there Mike I
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mean anytime you talk about home screen
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so I'm ready to go you said the magic
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word revival
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let's do this I think is worth
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mentioning for a piece of long-term
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follow-up that you did not get your wish
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right of the opening of applications via
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a keyboard shortcut that nobody either
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maybe people listened to you but
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nobody's put it into place I'm pausing
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here for a moment to think about how
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much I can say I'll put it in vague ways
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that I I could say that I know this has
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been received and that there may be
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reasons that it doesn't happen that
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maybe I don't necessarily agree with but
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I don't know who knows who knows knows
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if an email huh could have been received
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or sent no no one could know there is no
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way of knowing yeah who knows if like a
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frustrating non answer was received
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nobody know
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certainly not me a week anyway so yeah I
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was I was hoping last time that before
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just just barely just just like the
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tiniest of of keyboard shortcuts added
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and that hasn't happened and I don't
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think it's going to happen in the next
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two weeks or week until the final
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version comes out so we can assume that
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that's that's definitely not the case I
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think we can feel pretty sure the fact
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that we are currently at beta 10 we're
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good we this is what it's gonna be most
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likely yeah I think so so so around this
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one of the biggest changes with iOS on
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the iPad is the introduction of the dock
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on the bottom screen and for someone
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like me and someone like you who spends
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a lot of time working on the iPad I feel
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like that that dock on the bottom
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totally changes everything
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like it it really makes the iPad a very
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different feeling device to work with
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than on the previous version of iOS and
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I've been having just some some
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interesting interesting things about how
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do i how do I arrange my dock now on my
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iPad how do I arrange my homescreen on
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on my phone and I feel like I'm I'm
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slowly going crazy because I can't I
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can't figure out what it is that I want
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to do even though I've been working with
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this for a long period of time so I took
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some screenshots today like would you
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like to see what my current setup looks
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like my various devices you know I want
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to see you don't have to ask me you
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could send me a message it's just on a
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random day in the middle of the night
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and I'd be happy to get them you know
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anytime if you have your iPad around I
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am legitimately curious to see what your
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home screen looks like um I feel like
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I'm very open to trying to figure out
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how how have people set up things on
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their iPads and on their various devices
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do you want both oh just one hashtag
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multipad lifestyle and what whatever you
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will give me I'm going to give you three
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home screen shots and you can give me
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back whatever you okay so while yours
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come through to me I'm gonna go and get
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my I dive from the other room because I
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only have one of them with me right now
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and then I can send the both to you yeah
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you go do that
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okay so screenshots have been exchanged
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screenshots have been exchanged I have
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yours you have mine okay let me talk
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about what's what's going on in my mind
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here my man
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the doc is of paramount importance it's
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the way to get to your apps because if
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you have an app that's on the dock you
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can just drag it from the dock right on
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to the screen yep and so that you can go
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into the multi app mode or you can have
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it hover over
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whereas apps that are on your home
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screen to me the home screen now becomes
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like a dead space on your iPad their
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apps that you can launch but only if you
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are already at the home screen and
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there's no there's no way to like get to
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the home screen to get to an app to then
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put it into the multi view mode so
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because of this I have decided that on
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my iPads the home screen is dead to me
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huh I don't I don't want to put a single
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app on my iPad home screen because I
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feel like what is the point of this all
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it is is a worse app launcher there's
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there's no there's no point to this
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at all so I am I am I have banned all
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app icons from the home screen on my
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iPads the dock or nothing
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you took the nuclear approach well yeah
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I actually don't think this is the
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nuclear approach because I feel like the
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architecture of iOS 11 on the iPad so
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encourages you to use the the dock that
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it feels it feels like a penalty having
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apps almost anywhere else but here's
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what I'm here's where I'm going crazy
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Mike because the iPhone doesn't work
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this way oh okay right again I wanted to
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say where we are in the world right now
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because it might we don't know yet right
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we just as this is as we stand right now
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who knows what could happen the next
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iPhone but yeah go on the iPhone doesn't
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work in this way I understand that
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yeah the iPhone doesn't work like this
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now there may be if there is a merciful
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God in the universe mm-hmm
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when the next phone comes out the next
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phone may work more similarly to the way
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the iPads do yeah there may be a little
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dock that swipes up from the bottom you
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know it could be better when the next
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iPhone come one can only hope one can
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only hope but you know what it's it's
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not gonna be it's not gonna be the same
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because there's not going to be a
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universe in which you can put a tie cons
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in the dock on your phone yeah it's only
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gonna be full right and maybe a fold of
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things lots of things work differently
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trapped in this universe where
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consistency is not possible that there
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there is no there is no solution that
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works everywhere the same that I want it
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to work I feel like when I'm using my
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phone I'm losing my mind about how do I
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launch apps on my phone versus launching
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apps on my iPad and as a result of this
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like what you are seeing what you were
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seeing in these screenshots is just my
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current state of arranging things which
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is not good but what I can't tell you
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well well I got what I I don't even want
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to know is how how many different ways I
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have tried arranging things how many
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different placements I have tried like
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different fault like I'm going crazy
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because there's a lack of consistency
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because as listeners to the show we'll
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know we've talked about home screens a
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icons in the dock and those icons have
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been incredibly stable notes launch
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Center pro and OmniFocus and I felt like
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that was a real a real sin
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during location two here is a thing that
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that you use there's like a little a
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little launching station for the things
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that you want to access quickly and
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consistently everywhere and it's the
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same on all of the devices and then
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above that because I live the multipad
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lifestyle and because I have a phone as
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well you can arrange the icons that you
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use in particular on this device on the
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home screen all right but it's like but
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all of that is gone now so I'm just
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going crazy I I deconstructed my dock
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I've put some new stuff in there and I'm
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trying to figure out what to do but I'm
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just I'm going crazy like I'm going
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absolutely crazy and I don't know what
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to do alright so episode 2 episode we've
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switched the crazy
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alright that's it's all on you now buddy
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I have we have a lot I think that we
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want to get to about this today but I
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just we need to just go over okay we're
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gonna come back to the dock alright and
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like kind of what that is but I just
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have a bunch of questions first because
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I'm looking at these images and it's all
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yeah here's like you you ask questions
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away because I don't even know what's
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happening in my world anyway so my god I
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don't I don't know what I don't
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understand from a fundamental
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perspective is you're complaining about
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consistency but you have inconsistent
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apps in both the dogs on your iPad's I
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don't get that I don't get it like you
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can look at my screen shots and you'll
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see the docks are the same the home
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screens stiffer in slight ways depending
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on what I do on those iPads but the
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docks are the same what I'm putting in
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them and where they go and you have like
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all different apps in all different
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placements and like some apps are on the
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dock on one and not on the other like
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there is no consistency and you are
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making it inconsistent for yourself okay
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Evernote look at Evernote just sitting
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there in the dock my word where are we
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in 2017 sitting in that in the dock
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laughing at me I know next - what is
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that that red fox arrow thing what's
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that oh that that's a wikipedia viewer
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oh yeah I've seen those before it's
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really good
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it's called vv4 wiki I think is the
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search for it
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so it's a really great Wikipedia viewer
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so here's where I'm trying to focus on
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consistency in my world okay step one I
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decided that it was it was time to let
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launch Center Pro go okay which threat
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may be one of the longest running apps
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on my phone that has changed the least
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it's like that has been around for
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forever we were just talking about it
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about the icon well well this is why I'm
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on the episode out of time it comes up
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as a thing and I didn't want to specify
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anything at that point in time but I had
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already when we recorded that show
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gotten rid of Launch Center right
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because on an episode out of time you
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cannot acknowledge at the time who knows
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when it a guy's is that the rule for
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episodes at a times I don't understand
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how that works
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so I got rid of that now I have tried I
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have tried other launchers and I think
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other launchers are probably fine for
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other people mm-hm but alright it's like
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I don't want to denigrate other
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launchers that people might use because
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they are they are good and they do but
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like there's bunch of things I didn't
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like and I'm very picky about this and
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there's like the reason I had stuck with
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launch Center Pro for as long as I had
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is because I could it solved a
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particular need very well so I was
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thinking it through and realizing 95% of
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what I was using launched Center Pro for
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in the past year was really as a way to
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kick off a bunch of workflows so I had a
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whole bunch of stuff in the workflow app
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and launch center Pro was just a faster
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way to launch a workflow than going
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directly into the workflow app itself
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this what I'm about to say is going to
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sound crazy to people but actually is I
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think is great and is that the part of
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the system on the happiest with is I
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replaced launch Center Pro with a folder
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that just has shortcuts to workflows
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this is better the way you were doing it
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was worse like opening launch Center Pro
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to launch workflows is a I think a
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slower way of doing it than what you're
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currently doing which is to save because
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you can save workflows to the iPhone
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homescreen with like this weird hack of
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Safari basically and this is quicker
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folder there and then hittin the button
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that's one less tap the reason I stuck
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with LAN Center pro is as long as I did
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is it was lightning fast to do it it
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actually is a little bit slower with the
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folder okay because apples like look at
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our beautiful enemy okay Russian speed
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okay yeah whereas especially if launch
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Center Pro was still kept in memory it
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was essentially instant so there's a
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little bit of a speed trade-off here but
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it's fine I still think this is a battle
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way to do it though might not be faster
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but I think this is this is cleaner but
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yeah yeah so this is this is cleaner it
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does have a disadvantage that I have to
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manually arrange everything so that it's
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the same on all of the devices there's
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no syncing anymore the state of what the
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launch center is but that's that's fine
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that's a fine trade-off and if someone
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looks in the screenshots what they will
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see is dead center on all of my devices
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there is a folder and that folder has
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nothing but buttons which launch
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workflow yeah it's it's dead center but
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not always relative what do you mean not
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always relative it's not relative to the
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green and red okay no we'll get into
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this in a second we'll get into this in
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a second like right for a long time this
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is like the onion of home screens were
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in right now no but listen okay listen
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listen look at those three screens yep
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the workflow folder is that Center look
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look at those the little dots that are
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supposed to show you the home screen or
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the widgets I can see that is the center
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right it's fine the folder is directly
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below those dots are as close as a
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person can make it yes it is itis I'm
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sorry it's not it's not perfectly
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aligned because of some aesthetic
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choices that Apple has made but we'll
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just let that slide right now yeah that
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is we aligned it's finally iPhone not
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not not fine on the big iPad yeah not
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not fine on the I on the iPad so that
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doesn't bother you at all it does very
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much so okay alright so this is this is
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the anchor around which we're building
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everything is gotten rid of Launch
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Center Pro I have found an adequate
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solution it's going to go in the center
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on all of the devices this is where we
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my assumption here is that these are all
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to launch most likely toggle actions
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would be my assumption nothing in that
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center folder is for toggle we'll get to
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this okay good all right I was gonna be
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in the discussion and I was gonna lose
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my mind no actually uh most of those
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Launch Center things are pre-programmed
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stuff for OmniFocus and a like a couple
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of other okay the purple once I assume I
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OmniFocus and purple ones are OmniFocus
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stuff that's cool that's all I really
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need to know I just needed to know what
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they did and that's enough for me it's
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all inconsistent now because I haven't
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quite decided on like what this new
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setup is going to be so I haven't
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worried about making sure it's
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consistent on every single device but
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I'll get there at some point I've just
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noticed something else that you've done
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okay what have you noticed in the iPad
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folders you've put blank icons in there
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so it's always the same yes okay so this
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is this is one way this is one way I am
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trying to force consistency out of an
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operating system that is trying to force
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me into an inconsistent state if you
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want the three by three grid everywhere
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because the thing with a launcher is
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that it's muscle memory right it's
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you're not like scanning and looking for
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a thing you're trying to make it muscle
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memory gosh so the iPhone only allows a
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three by three grid in the folder so I I
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am forcing a three by three grid in the
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folder on the iPad but as you can see
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that means the 3 by 3 grid is not
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centered and it can't possibly be
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centered because the iPads want a four
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by four grid in the folder so this is
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this is a trade-off I'm just going to
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have to make that the grid will be
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off-center but there's there's no
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there's no way to manage that for the
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launcher one and the muscle memory of
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where the buttons are is vastly more
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important all of these images are in our
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show notes so you can play along at home
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I just wanted to read yeah I think I
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have to look at this yeah it does you
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cannot conceptualize this unless you're
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seeing it so you have to see it if
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you're driving just wait till later
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we're all good
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you need to see this rethink number two
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okay can't believe we're just done
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number two okay I know you can't you
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can't believe we're just not number two
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I feel like I'm barely halfway through
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whatever is going to happen like oh yeah
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so I'm still so dissatisfied like we're
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just solving our questions like this
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things I keep seeing things that make me
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love and I because I know what you're
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doing but I just need to double check
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thing number two that happened is
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there's a change in iOS 11 which I
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really like which is that you can put
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notes in control center and so I
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realized I don't need notes on the dock
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anymore because the way I use notes is
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probably different from the way almost
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everybody uses notes and that I I use it
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solely to just write down something and
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then once a week I kind of go through
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and call all these random pieces of text
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throughout the week look I don't use
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notes as an organizational system of any
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kind notes is just I need to write
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something down and I know future me will
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do whatever is necessary with this piece
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of text at a later point okay couple of
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questions on that yeah are you writing
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them down with a keyboard or with a
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pencil with it with the keyboard all
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most of it okay and so I'm assuming that
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you're taking these things and either
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putting them in a task manager or inside
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of a project that you're already writing
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and or inside of your beloved Evernote
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will be myself yeah it's like it's just
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anything right like if the simple case
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like somebody recommends a movie I'm
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like oh okay and I make it I'm making
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over the movie title and then later I'll
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properly sort that into like the place
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where I keep a list of here's a bunch of
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movies to watch or books that have been
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recommended all right it's it's just
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like little pieces of text that don't go
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anywhere in particular and it's not
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worth the effort of properly sorting
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them at the time right okay this is
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different to me where like if it's text
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it goes in notes right if it's not a
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task because tasks never go in notes it
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always just like so I would have my list
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of movies to see would be in notes for
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example I know that that is the way most
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people would use it but it's just it's
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just not the way that I you sure I get
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that if anybody uses the app called
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drafts I use notes the way drafts is in
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tended to be used like yes that's like a
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little comparison there so it's not a
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storage facility of any points a
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starting point for text never the final
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point yeah exactly
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and I really like this little change in
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iOS 11 that you can do it from control
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center because it also means that it's
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it's it's much more accessible much more
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quickly in a bunch of scenario so I love
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that the phone is locked and I can just
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swipe up from control center and and go
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to notes and type something and and it
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just goes into the system and I never
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even need to unlock the phone yeah
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that's that's a great that's a great
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thing that you can do that now yeah if
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you want to set it up that way it is a
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really nice addition and so that that
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change meant
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okay well notes doesn't need to be on
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the dock anymore
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right notes can just go away yeah and in
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an interesting way that kind of
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reinforces your use case it's almost
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like it's designed exactly for that like
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Oh someone just said a thing you want to
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write something down really quickly and
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you just want it to go into the system
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are you not
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you're not filing it at that point in
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time so I'm glad about that
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but again I'm all like muscle memory
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because this is a thing that happens
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lots so I want I just want to know that
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whatever device I'm using I've built it
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into my brain that oh the way you now
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type down a thing is just pull up
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control center hit new note and just
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type it and done right so this is no
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longer a dock first activity mm-hmm Omni
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focus has also been removed from the
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dock but this is a complicated thing
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we'll just we'll just have to get get to
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later right for very for various reasons
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OmniFocus is not going to be on the dock
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anymore but it's like I can't I can't
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even articulate a fiower I phone you
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mean yes it's not it's not on the dock
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of the iPhone because it's on the dock
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of one of the iPads I know I know and
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it's reinforcing the inconsistency but
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yes I know I know
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yes that's like well just it's not gonna
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be on the dock on the iPhone we'll just
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we'll give it oh I just noticed is there
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as well
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Wow look at you would you'd look at you
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mister to do pants you gotta go into
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stuff we just stop jumping ahead you
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shouldn't have given me the images you
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know like I can't I can't help it
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okay so there was then a long period of
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thinking well what the hell goes on my
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now for a while I tried nothing on the
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dock except that one folder but that
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looks really dumb and it makes it makes
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no sense on the iPads because again like
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you're punished for not using the dock
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on the iPads and just having the one
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little launcher folder is is ridiculous
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what I have eventually settled on for my
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dock icons there's a green plus and
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there's a red X and they're from I was
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trying to think what is that what is the
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thing that I now do the most in the day
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I've replaced I've replaced my launcher
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I've replaced the thing where I'm typing
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in stuff what is the next most frequent
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activity and of course that is
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everybody's favorite topic time tracking
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time tracking is the thing that I do the
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most promise we won't talk about things
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too long listeners I really I just want
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you we will get through this as far as
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quickly as we can but yes go on I
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promise you that we will as well because
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there isn't that much to say about it
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except what do these two buttons do
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they are also workflows yeah so the
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green one simply launches may a master
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workflow that allows me to very quickly
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select what is the activity that I'm
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doing right now this is what I'd assumed
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they were and I thought that the middle
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folder was related to just triggering
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specific trackers but that that makes
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sense like the green and red it make
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perfect sense one is to start and one is
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to stop I mean and I have these but
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they're in I have them in my widgets in
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Notification Center so this is a thing
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that I had tried for a long time
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workflow has a fantastic widget it's
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really really great but basically in in
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iOS 10 there was an option to say hey
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your Notification Center it's dumb I
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don't ever use it I don't care remember
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what the thing I swipe down last time
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was so if I've pulled down the widgets
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always just have the widgets there but
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iOS 11 seems really proud of their
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Notification Center and they've removed
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this option so I like in theory I would
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want to use the widget to launch and to
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stop my time tracking like across all
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devices that'd be a way to do it
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consists
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gently but that that extra swipe really
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annoys me every time doesn't it work if
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you just swipe to the left okay but this
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is this is a thing that then becomes a
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little bit in my mind like it like an
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inconsistent thing like which device am
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i using how do i open up that device
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like am i on the lock screen is the lock
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screen open or is a lock screen not I
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tried it with the widget but it's it's
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just a little bit of an annoyance I
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don't feel that it's also an annoyance
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but here's the use case that here's the
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use case that I will give you which is
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I'm on the iPad doing something and I
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want to trigger the timer okay yeah
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where do I have to pull down I can't
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home yeah it's right I can't yeah
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there's like in so it's not the same
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every time
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and this it this again is where muscle
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memory is really important like this is
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an activity that I'm going to do dozens
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of times a day it has to be something
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that I just don't think about so that
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that moment of being on the iPad with
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the apps open is like I'd it's I have to
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think about it for a second and now it's
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now it's all ruined so that this is what
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ended up with the like the the most
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sensible thing to do was to put the time
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tracking stuff in the dock and so I'm
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thinking of it from the perspective of
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the most space constrained device which
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is the iPhone which you can only put
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three icons in the dock if you want it
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to look nice so now I have my three dock
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icons and so now we come to the iPads
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okay and so I have given you two
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screenshots because we live the multipad
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lifestyle ashtag
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yes hashtag multi pad lifestyle the one
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with the standard Apple wallpaper which
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is like the exploding paint this is my
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office iPad so this is the one that I'm
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primarily using for writing and then the
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one with the black sand beach this is
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the everything else iPad okay so the
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writing I've had is reasonably okay
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because the use cases are are very
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constrained and this is where I feel the
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happiest because it's like I want to use
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Ulysses to write I want to use good
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notes for the physical writing I use
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bear as a to organize a bunch of notes
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and then then of course I have Evernote
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and a Wikipedia app and it's like this
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is easily 95 percent at the time I'm
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going to spend on this iPad so I can get
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it all in the doc and I can get it
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arranged reasonably nicely now the thing
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that I'm trying to do to preserve my
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mental muscle memory is because since
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Docs are variable in size there's three
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muscle memory points here center left
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hand side right hand side so this is
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what I want now to be the same across
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all devices so the launching folder is
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in the center the plus to start the
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timer is on the left and the X to stop
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the timer is on the right this is this
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is what's going to be the same across
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all devices and all that means now is I
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need to put a symmetrical number of apps
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in between those points so am I writing
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iPad I have three apps between the left
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and the middle and on the right hand
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side I have two apps plus a folder that
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contains everything else that's on the
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iPad since I've decided that there will
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be no apps on the home screen
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that means everything else goes into the
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infinity folder that holds all of the
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other apps that are going to exist on
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the iPad so this this is this is the
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idea of my doc solution is you have one
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folder that's the Infinity folder I have
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three muscle memory points and then I
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fill in the rest that's that's the idea
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of what's going on can I ask you a
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question about the muscle memory thing
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please why didn't you put all three in
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the middle on everything because on the
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big iPad because you have the recents
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it's not on the far right in iOS 11 you
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have this option of because the dock is
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so important
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iOS will put three suggested apps in
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your dock
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on the right side and these you don't
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have control over they just they just
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appear they're the suggestions they're
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they're what Apple thinks you want to
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have now there's there's like a funny
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bit of space that's between these apps
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and the other apps that makes everything
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kind of off-center and having the three
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exact right spot but for me from my
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what I am trying but this again like
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everything I do have these suggested
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apps because it's it's really useful to
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have them there but I I don't want them
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on my dedicated sort of writing office
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suggesting apps to me which are in the
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dock already right are there things that
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annoying like it's it's not helpful
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because on that device I'm able to get
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just about everything that I want in the
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dock in the dock this is this is where I
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fact that you have decided that you I'm
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willing to take the colors of some icons
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we created icons of your own books and
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audiobooks
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literally just shortcuts to launch by
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ebooks and audible and you have taken
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matters into your own hands and have
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gone for a more pleasing green to you
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green color than the yellows I have
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taken matters in my own hands there's
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another one that you have missed there
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was no I I hadn't missed that I had
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assumed that that wasn't real but the
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ebooks and audiobooks were more obvious
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to me yeah flashcards is a shortcut to
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the program I've been using for years
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and years which is called Anki which is
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it's great it's it's a fantastic
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flashcard program but it has a very ugly
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app that I don't think has been updated
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in years and years I can tell how long
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you've been using it because you keep
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calling it a program which is very
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that's you know what that's totally yeah
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it is a program because I started using
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it in college on a computer that is the
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program everything else is an app I love
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you know that your brain made that
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distinction this is a this is a computer
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program yeah I would never have used
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that and then because Amazon finally
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introduced proper text alignment in
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their app I don't switch back to using
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Kindles which is great but what but but
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that Kindle app icon is horrific Lee
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ugly do you know I was like I will not
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allow that on my screen like I don't
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want to have to look at that
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I hate that the apps have the words
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beneath the app to begin with and then
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any any app which also has to write its
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own name on the app icon in addition to
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the title underneath as I I can't deal
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with that it's it's horrible it's like
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Kindle like yeah I get it Kindle like I
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see the word twice I hate it so I just
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made a I made a much better icon using
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using workflows and then they use so yes
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that's I have some I have some
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replacements app icons cool for ones
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that are that are unacceptable except
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for the fact that you're running three
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to do apps on your iPhone I think that's
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most of my general questions
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on my phone there just just to be clear
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that that to do row which is four icons
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yeah it's a two-lane just quickly so
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people don't think I'm going crazy it's
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like the do is for reminders that are
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related to a particular time or timers
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that I want to run as we've discussed in
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the past but we don't need to go over
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here again it is useful to split certain
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kinds of tasks between to do and
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OmniFocus so OmniFocus is generally like
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big project stuff and to do is much much
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smaller things and then to do issed is
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what i use to communicate with my
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personal assistant so that is like
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shared tasks between the two of us Oh
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Vonda list is dead oh yes yeah wonder
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list is gone maybe I should call this
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one two diced like I have to give this
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one a new name now because vendor list
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is gone no you don't know we don't need
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to do that to joist is actually a pretty
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funny name I like that but I used to do
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it and loved it so I wouldn't give it a
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different name
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even though vendor list is the way that
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that app should be pronounced anyway
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yeah to do it interesting okay what do
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you think of to do this cuz this one I
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use every day I mean I install its
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virtues I like the automation a bit
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that's pretty good for you if you're
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using it for shared tasks to have things
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automated from it it's probably pretty
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I actually actually don't use any of the
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automation features in it this this is a
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case where basically my assistant now
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we're running up against some
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limitations in wonder list we just ran
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into some things are like this isn't
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this isn't working great anymore
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and primarily one of the things was like
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the need to be able to prioritize
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certain tasks above others she is the
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one who is 95% using this and I am I'm
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simply like adding tasks and adding
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comments so I feel like I can't really
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give a fair review of two DUIs yeah like
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what what I would I do use of it I can
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say like I'm not a huge fan and it feels
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like there's some really obvious things
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that are missing but but I can say that
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it is definitely a better collaboration
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solution when your collaboration gets
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more complicate
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like that that's clearly the case
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goodbye Linda list goodbye it's been a
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it's been a pleasure I feel I feel a
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little exhausted from all the explaining
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I've done of this of this setup that I
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have here Mike and I feel like I've
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barely even scratched the surface it
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might be your time for a nap yeah it
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might be it might be my time for a nap
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ten point five a lot at home
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if I'm going to be doing things like
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like the primary is home and away which
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is why I take steps to set them up very
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similarly they're not exactly the same
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select some of the folders and the
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placement some apps on the home screen
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I worry about too much because if it's
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not in the dock I'm opening it via
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spotlight right and so like for me I I
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am the reason I still have apps on my
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home screen is because they're really
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just a organization thing it's just like
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a place for me to put the apps because I
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open them the majority of apps from from
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spotlight all right okay so that makes
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sense since you are doing the same kind
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of things on both devices it's it's a
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simple it's simply the size factor and
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convenience factor of moving it or not
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moving it exactly that makes it so
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that's why you want the dock the same
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everywhere because otherwise you would
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be losing your mind and my steps are
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like so I have less I there are you can
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have more apps in the dock on the 12.9
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but I actually less because I like the
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consistency I have noticed an
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inconsistency which I want to rectify
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that Dropbox on the large iPad is in the
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dock on its own but on the the small
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iPad it's in a folder although I expect
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as soon as Dropbox update for the files
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app on iOS 11 I won't need it anymore
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really yeah I'm kind of just waiting for
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that point so the dock for me is really
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like these are the apps that I'm using
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most on my iPad and I think it
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reinforces the fact that I say I use the
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iPad for work because they are work apps
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like all of those that's what they are
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and the reason that they are all there
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is because these are the application
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that I'm most frequently using in split
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views so I keep them in the dock because
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inconsistent opinions about how people
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I love the new multitasking in iOS 11 I
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think it's fantastic I think it is
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superior in almost every way it just
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takes time to get used to and learn but
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I absolutely love it I love all the
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dragging because I am able to visualize
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where everything's going to be is is
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very visual I think that that is a there
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I think there is a key to being able to
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work on iOS in the if you like things
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visual I think that is the thing you
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have to just get used to is that you'd
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like to be able to see things you like
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to be able to see the movement of things
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application to where I want them to be
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them all around and the additional
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flexibility that iOS Elevens
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multitasking has is amazing and I love
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it and I've changed some of my workflows
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never want to change them back yeah I do
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again just want to make it really clear
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that I am also like in favor of the
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changes and I think it's I think it's a
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really great the way that they have done
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it I've just been advocating for
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something on top of that very minor
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thing on top of that but yeah yeah of
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course I mean that there are things that
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I would like to defer that for it to do
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that are different now um but on the
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whole I am a real proponent of the
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changes that Apple has made yeah so a
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thing that I have found really
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interesting about using iOS over this
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long period of time is with my two iPads
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one that has this dedicated purpose
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which is writing and research and the
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other one which is the everything iPad
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all kinds of administrative work I see
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both sides of how this works
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so on my dedicated iPad I feel like this
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is exactly what Apple is really
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optimizing for I can put essentially all
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of the applications that I want
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use on the dock and on my writing iPad
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every app does have a consistent buddy
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that it stays with Ulysses in bear
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I'm always opening together ones the
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main writing app and and the other one
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is for auxiliary notes workflow and do
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are side by side they're always together
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like to do an OmniFocus stay together as
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a little pair so on this device
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I have consistent pairs which is great
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it's nice to see the things that I want
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next to each other next to each other
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all the time and I also have the vast
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majority of my work is just there on the
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dock and easily accessible it's like
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this is great I feel like this is
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exactly what this was this was designed
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for but I do still feel like on my
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everything iPad like I'm just I'm losing
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my mind and it's it I still find it very
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clunky and frustrating to work with
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because there I just I just don't have
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consistent pairs of apps and I find
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myself always wishing it was it was a
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bit more like spaces on on Mac OS where
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I could say like I want to define these
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two APS's together and don't don't break
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them apart if I happen to go to
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something else briefly like it's I feel
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like like like I'm building castles out
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of sand like for like for example this
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morning they're doing like storyboarding
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feedback with the animator and so like
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that is a process that has a bunch of
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apps that I want to use and it's like
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it's just I just keep finding a clunky
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to be constantly like setting up pairs
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but then I want to break them down
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because I want to bring in a third app
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but I want to go back to the previous
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thing I'm still finding it frustrating
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for like intensive use of a large number
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of varied apps but I got on the smaller
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case it's it's great and perfect but
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it's it's more frustrating that the
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larger number of apps you use I think
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the fundamental problem of people that
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feel the way that you do is thinking of
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apps as pairs I don't think that Apple
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ever really
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ever really
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you to do that you decided to think of
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it that way on your own right but what I
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mean about the the pairs though is it's
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not the thinking of them as pairs
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it's the switching like here's the use
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cases like I have one major app so it's
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like what I was doing this morning is
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the perfect case so I am watching a
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movie that's a storyboard so this is
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like the main thing that I want to look
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at and then on the side I want to be
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able to switch between three different
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things like I want to have notes that
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I'm taking in bear I need to be able to
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talk to the animator in slack and
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there's a couple of other things where I
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need like I need to bring up good notes
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to be able to make a quick sketch to
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make something that's clear and then
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Dropbox to send a link back to the
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animator who I'm talking in slack but I
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never want to close the the movie that
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I'm watching which is the thing that is
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being comments I like that workflow
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which is still very easy to do on a
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computer is is frustrating because of
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the the time it takes to switch the app
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on the side and it's also frustrating
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because of the inconsistent steps of how
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do I summon these apps like what where
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is this app that I'm trying to summer
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and like let me get it from spotlight
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when I get it from spotlight I have to
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drag it over into just the right spot I
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have to wait for the little animation to
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show me that it's going to go there like
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rapid switching between a few things is
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is noticeably slower than rapid
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switching between a few things was under
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the old system and I want to be really
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clear I'm not asking for that old system
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that's in iOS 10 you could use the
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command tab action to switch out just
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what was in the left pane I understand
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that I do miss that but I don't want it
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back there's other weird consistency
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problems that I sort of thought were
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bugs at first in iOS but I think are not
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bugs which is when you do the command
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tab switcher what apps show up in that
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list doesn't show everything and I don't
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understand what it's supposed to be
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showing that is something that I think
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is wrong however Apple are deciding to
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make that list is is wrong because it
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everything and it should show pairs but
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it doesn't yeah and it should show
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things that I've just touched so it
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feels like this the thing that it seems
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to miss the most is I've summon an app
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from spotlight and dragged it into an
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overview setting or like an OP main view
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and like then it doesn't show up in the
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command switcher it's like I want that
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thing I was just there like that also
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adds to this frustration of trying to
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switch between multiple apps like it's
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so so like I guess this is this is one
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of the things that also just doesn't
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help but like what is my doc setup going
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to be and how am I going to set these
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iPads is the use case where I want to
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have the most number of things I feel
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like I really need to cram the doc full
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of stuff and and this is where you can
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you can see on my everything iPad
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screenshot like I have I have the
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Infinity folder I have the launcher
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folder but I'm also trying to make a
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little communications folder which is
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like here here are the little apps that
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I'm I'm where I'm talking to people and
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I find myself switching in and out of
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very frequently and trying to put them
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in a folder on the dock so I can get
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access to them more quickly for dropping
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into the workspace that I'm that I'm
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using like I'm trying to get around this
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but I don't I don't have a great
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solution that feels like wow I'm really
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flying through my work on this iPad it
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still feels really clunky for me to do
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that so I can see in the specific use
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case that you've posted and that you
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want to use three apps plus for video
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right and I'm assuming picturing picture
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isn't working for you here for whatever
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reason that might be it's not really
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worth getting as - yeah the details
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don't matter but picture in pictures is
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either the view isn't large enough for
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the app that use and does support it
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whatever I can see for that where it's
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frustrating right but because you're
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watching a video I think for basically
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any other work flow issue you can just
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deal with switching into a different app
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for a moment right like if you need four
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apps well just using three of them
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because you can use three if you slide
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over and then you just come on tap out
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to the other app enter what we need to
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go in there
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go back the specific use case that
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you're posing is tricky because you want
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to be watching the video at all times
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but you know just I would just say like
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it's frustrating but pulls the video
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right like that that's that's the
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workflow you will end up getting
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yourself into erican just like well I'll
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pause for a moment and do what I need to
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do and go back I get that there have
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been some workflows I have had to change
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as well but I take this small
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frustration because the system as a
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is vastly superior to what has come
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before it and I really think that a lot
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of people are getting more frustrated
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about this just because of how close it
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is to the Mac now which I actually think
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is a testament to how good i OS 11 is
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that people are getting more frustrated
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about how it's different in the Mac
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because it is so good and it's so
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powerful it's almost like an uncanny
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valley thing where people are less
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comparing it to what iOS 10 was and
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comparing it to what they think it
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should be because of how the Mac works
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so yeah like I I will agree with that
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100% because there was no doubt in my
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mind that it's a bit of a frustration
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for me because like I don't know about
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you but on the Mac I am a very heavy
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spaces user I really like the ability to
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use lots of spaces I think most heavy
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iOS users use the Mac that way hmm maybe
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and so yes it does invite that
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comparison of on the Mac it's much
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easier to be fussy about my spaces and
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which apps go in what spaces and then it
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feels like I'm switching between a whole
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bunch of different virtual desktops that
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have been left just the way I want them
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to be and so like I will I will
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completely agree with you on that that
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that is it is impressive in a way that
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the comparison is now oh why can't I why
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can't I do this as lightning fast as I
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can do it on a full desktop computer you
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and I have always acknowledged that
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there are there are many things on the
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iPad that we have always known it is it
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is slower to do but it doesn't change
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the fact that we like working on an iPad
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move between a bunch of but it's like
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there's just no way to do that under the
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app shortcuts but whatever is is I think
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just it feels like it slows it slows it
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main computer this is a hell of an
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upgrade
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no time at all to figure out what to do
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do you just move it with your hands like
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it's a physical object or ignore it
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completely right you can ignore it
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completely if you don't notice it and
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it's fine yeah or yeah it doesn't even
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that's why I like its it is a great
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solution to a very difficult thing I
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just I just wish for pro users there was
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like a faster way to do more precise
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stuff you got some beautiful wallpapers
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two of them are recreations of in 5k of
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old Apple Mac desktops which I'll put a
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link in the show notes
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stephen hackett and amazing designer
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frank put those together together the
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one on my iphone is actually a real afm
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members exclusive wallpaper so if you're
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really if a member you get loads of cool
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wallpapers we're just doing another plug
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here everybody and you yeah you get
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lovely wallpapers and that's one for
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remaster which is the video game show
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than i do you have that same black one
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on your phone that you've had forever
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that the fractal one although it's it's
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better than whatever that out of time
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homescreen was that weird
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dusty thing and i'm assuming i assumed
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that the other two are both apples ones
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right i think that that that's beech one
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is - i know the beach ones not apples
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one the the pink splash is an apple one
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I feel like in in in beta season I'm
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more daring with wood wallpapers I'm
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like use on now yeah so this is this is
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great gone wild with his wallpaper
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something more more button-down and
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businesslike but where is the beach one
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from I don't know actually where that
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that Beach one is is from I can't
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remember where I got that original tub
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nobody wants it because if you don't
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know where is from I can't give people
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the links
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yes I don't think I've mentioned I don't
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before but the iPhone wallpaper it's
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series of black wallpapers and they are
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Mike I'm exhausted oh I'm sorry I really
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am because I feel like when we talk
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about this I have to mentally go through
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all of my thoughts for the past many
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weeks about decisions we've barely
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touched that touch this in in the depth
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that I feel is adequate but I cannot go
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on any further we've had we had topics
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planned for the show which have all been
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destroyed by home screen discussion
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which always eats everything everything
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and so what I really want to know about
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right now as we're ending the show is
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tell me more about your laundry I have a
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lot to say believe it or not about my
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laundry because I'm back home now and it
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was halfway through my trip so I needed
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to do more laundry before I got home the
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continuing adventure of Mike's laundry
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yeah I did laundry two more times
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in fact okay so when we last checked in
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with your laundry you you had asked for
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advice for people about what you were
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gonna do yeah so what happened what
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happened in America with with your
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laundry
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so remember last time I had done
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expensive hotel laundry and I had done
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one load of laundry at my co-founders
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house using a machine I didn't
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understand and that me and you were
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talking about the idea and how great it
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will be to use one of those apps you
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know like the laundry app so they come
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pick up the laundry for you I have some
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bad news gray all of the apps that I
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tried required a u.s. telephone number
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for sign up okay
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and I couldn't trick them what do you
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mean by trick them like entering a
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random number or entering a number that
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was my number but in some weird US
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format because they all want to send you
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a text message to confirm the phone
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number to confirm sign up
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yeah this is this is what Skype phone
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numbers are for no I didn't think of
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that did you know you know what's really
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annoying is I actually set up a Skype
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telephone them but two days ago because
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Skype numbers receive text messages I am
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fairly sure they can okay and if they
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can't I know a lot of these services do
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a fallback where they call and give you
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the pin mm-hmm yeah look at that I know
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I know for a fact I have verified stuff
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that demands a u.s. phone number with my
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skype u.s. phone number like I know I
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have done this okay you're making me
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slightly doubt myself about the text
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message but I know I have used it to
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verify these fucking is the Col fallback
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so this is this is a CGP grey brand life
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hack for everybody out there on this ice
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those Skype numbers but I do have one
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someone on the phone and it's just like
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oh can we use Skype and it's like it's
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just like a whole big deal but now I
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have a phone number that people can call
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and we've I think it was about iOS 10 it
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if I'm signed in on skype it just rings
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as if it's so yeah that's good I have
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that set up now I didn't think of that
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at the time so there there you go you
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even need that well you can't do it so
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when I was in Brooklyn which by the way
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I love Brooklyn obviously loves Brooklyn
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wow what a surprise surprise surprise
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dear I you would like Portland to Mike I
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like Portland I like Brooklyn I also
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stayed in East like the Lower East Side
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like the East Village love that too
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obviously yeah well good all good stuff
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laundromat cert like a laundromat that
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had a wash and fold service I I wasn't a
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wash and fold my clothes that's what it
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sounds like it's what it sounds like
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so I just took my I basically took my
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clothes in a bag into this place making
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an assumption
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what would occur and I put it down and
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said could you can you take care of
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these and they said yes and they gave me
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a piece of paper and that was it I was
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like all right well we'll see what
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happens that cost me $9 that that load
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of clothes and it was great and I was
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very happy and it came back basically
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exactly the same as the hotel stuff just
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not with a blue ribbon so you don't feel
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the need to bleep that number my $9 no
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I'm fine with $9 - can I let that go
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through uh-huh there was an unexpected
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side effect of the last episode for me
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yeah something I didn't anticipate was
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the amount of direct messages I was
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gonna get from friends asking me just
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one simple question can you guess what
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that question was how much did you pay
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for your laundry yes pretty much
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everybody that I know everybody wanted
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to know everyone wanted to know and as I
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assumed would happen all the listeners
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wanted to know - yeah that's what you
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get for bleeping yep I mean I knew it
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would happen I was fine with it but then
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something really interesting happened in
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the reddit thread someone with the
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username funk you put together a Google
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Form to employ the wisdom of the crowd
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which I found out was like this is this
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method of trying to guess something by
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using multiple people's guesses and you
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take the averages of the guesses and it
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gives you something which is expected to
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be correct now this person put together
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this survey they weeded out some of the
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more wild answers which was probably the
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right thing to do and came up with an
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answer of one hundred and fifty three
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dollars and 21 cents over one hundred
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and eighty three responses mm-hmm they
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then closed it down after that point
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just because they felt that they had a
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good sense of the answer from that point
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now because this number was so close to
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the actual number I felt that it was
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only fair for me to confirm it
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so the actual number that I paid for my
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laundry dear listeners was 116 dollars
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as pretty good for a wisdom of the crowd
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estimation and I didn't want to share
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the number at the time or cold because I
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still believe if I would have said 116
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dollars I would have been inundated by
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people saying how ridiculous that is
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this bond on laundry it is ridiculous it
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is ridiculous but also all of my friends
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that asked me how much did you spend I
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said to them my first answer for
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everyone was how much did you think and
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everyone went higher so I still believe
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that by not giving that number everyone
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thought it was worse then it actually
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ended up being because I still think a
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hundred and sixteen dollars is an
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embarrassing amount to spend on the
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lottery especially when I got the same
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amount down for nine dollars but I feel
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better about my 116 dollars on the M
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because most people thought it was a
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thousand which was wild to me people
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kept thinking I spent a thousand dollars
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I would say keep the clothes right like
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you can have them I don't want anymore
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take them a thousand dollars no that's
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that's ludicrous I'm I spend 116 was the
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amount so you feel like you've done
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successful expectation management here I
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do actually
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I feel like III I feel like I manage
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this best for my own personal well-being
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116 dollars was the amount
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congratulations to everybody for getting
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so close with 153 so I assumed that
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there was just a lot of people that have
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probably been through this themselves I
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also did hear from a lot of people that
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have been through this themselves who
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had a guess of the amount because they
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know how much this stuff costs so I
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think this can close out the laundry now
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because I'm back at home and I'm doing
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my laundry at home of a machine that I
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understand and it's effectively free
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because I our water is paid for by our
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building so I don't need to pay the
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water bill I guess it's just the
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electric that powell's the Washington
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anyway I expect it's less than nine
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dollars a property what do you want
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you're walking you're walking us into a
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kilowatt-hour cost conversion
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calculation
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that we're all good I'm cool with what
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it's costing me at home um but there we
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go so that's the laundry I'm glad you're
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back to your front loaded washer it's
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just so much more easy to understand
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I used a novel one of those top loading
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washers with some with some more friends
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because we went for a vacation with
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friends and I still don't understand it
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I just don't get it it doesn't make
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sense to me
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it's like this big wheel and it has like
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a million options on it I just I don't I
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think we're just gonna have to put this
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aside as cultural differences much it is
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100 percent I'm not saying it's wrong
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I'm just saying I don't understand it
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you know in the same way that I would
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imagine people that are used to the
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top-loading machines have to take some
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time to understand the front loading
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machines cuz they're different they're
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not that different I want it just before
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we before we finish today great I want
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to thank everybody who signed up to
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want to specifically say a real thanks
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to you Mike and to Jason Snell for all
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of the work that YouTube put into that
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episode I feel like this is a thing
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where I get to just show up and like I
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I have a lot of fun doing those episodes
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but I I just I always feel the need to
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reinforce eyes like I like I am so aware
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that those those member episodes work
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because Jason does just such a fantastic
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job of being the computer being the
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parser like that is that is a a much
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more imaginative role than it may seem
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to the listener like the things that he
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has to keep track of and all of the work
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he has to do live while we are recording
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so I really appreciate that and to you
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Mike for the I'm going to say insane
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member shows all of the special effects
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that you add all of the atmospheric
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not even notice when they're listening
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but really add to the feel of the show
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it's it's so I am very grateful to the
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tremendous amount of work that the two
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them fun to do and I have to say it
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makes them really great to listen to
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like I have listened to both of our
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this work am i listening for edits like
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I'm just listening because I like it
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like they're yeah they're they're great
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shows and there's a lot there's a lot of
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man-hours that have gone into them so
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thank you for all the work that you do
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on that it's a pleasure genuinely is a
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pleasure because I I really really loved
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