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00:00:00   I am delivery number 46 gray and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   courier is currently on delivery number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   41 and they're about 15 minutes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   delivery of what I'm getting some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   Apple products today like an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   who's on the way and an Apple TV is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14   the way today is the day so during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16   today's show I'm gonna be taking receipt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   of some new stuff so you'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   lose me for a while you know as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   just gone press the buttons on my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   toys you you lucky jerk you got it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/25">TS</a>]

00:00:30   got your orders in ahead of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   yep I am let me let me just look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   really quickly according to my app from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   my Apple watch I am delivery number ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   thousand four hundred and forty fourth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   presume because it's not coming in till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   October well the early bird catches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47   pre-orders or something I guess so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   so there's I guess so so you bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   Apple watch of LTE huh this is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   part of the multi multi watch lifestyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   how many watches you're gonna keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58   around when the third one is your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   what do you mean mult I'm like I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   lived the multi watch lifestyle I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   two watches that's two so then is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   a third gonna join or like what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   you can oh that's crazy that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   I just thought if you bought two LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   watches for yourself no I have bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   one ltu watch for myself right right cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   it would be crazy to buy two right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   would be crazy to buy two right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   start yeah Olaf occation there well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/83">TS</a>]

00:01:29   don't yet know I don't yet know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   useful the LTE watches are exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   it's going to fit into my life or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   it's going to work with my various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   habits are you even on the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   network for this I I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   investigated that I didn't know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   needed to look into networks if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   not on a in the UK then you're then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   you're out luck my friend oh really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   hmm I just delivered some horrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   news to you well maybe it's a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   then that my delivery is not until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   number 10,000 or something I'm currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   on three is the young network provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   of choice and it's time for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   switch network if you want to use an LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/124">TS</a>]

00:02:04   no but shortly surely the networks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   going to update with this surely yes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09   a only be a couple of days I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   until all of the other networks come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   Oh like ah I was not expecting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/133">TS</a>]

00:02:18   this piece of news from you hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19   yeah I never never even occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   that this might be limited to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   carriers yep it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   it is just one in the UK just one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   now so you've got some work to do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   friend I've got some life rearranging to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   do yep okay I actually don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   like it's at all possible to even get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   to work like it has to be the carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   that you're on otherwise you've got no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   no choice hmm the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   frustrating me though again I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   if you know this it doesn't rum you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   can't bro I'm not surprised by that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51   didn't think about that but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   surprised that at the start there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   roaming with the Ltd was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   version one I mean and also like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   the early reviews there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   problems with it but apparently there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/179">TS</a>]

00:03:00   some fixes on the way but I'm waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   see like I'm gonna reserve my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03   judgement until I've actually had time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   to play around of it which by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   this episode comes out I probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   have played around with it and will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   spoken about it on my various technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   focused podcasts of which I will include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   links in the show notes gray yes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   going to be wearing the watch while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   we're doing this show and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   simultaneously recording another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   your shows to give you a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/203">TS</a>]

00:03:23   yeah every time you're talking I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   talking to somebody else yeah that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/207">TS</a>]

00:03:27   that's how Mike gets all these podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   done CT does simulcasting it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   that's how you that's how you do 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   shows it's the only way it is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   way to do it and maintain work/life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   balance you have to double it's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   times work and then life balance that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   how you do it I don't think that formula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   comes out the way you think it comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   but but don't worry about it it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   practice it works you know just just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   paper it seems a bit tricky let's come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   back today I want to know what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   about the iPhone 10 but let's come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   to that a little bit later on so we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   give you some respite to the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02   don't care about these types of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   because there has been some huge news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   there's been a there's been a rift there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   was that there was a I could feel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   change in the force gray as you uploaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   a YouTube video okay well now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   you're being a little dramatic there do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   Q&A videos really count I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   count for half a video well okay it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   like it was a minor rift it was a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   disturbance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   and Morse as you uploaded a semi YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/266">TS</a>]

00:04:30   video I guess but it still was one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   still had animations in it it still had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   fun parts of it it still took work I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   assuming right yeah there is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   you've come back how does it feel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   make your triumphs huge what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/281">TS</a>]

00:04:45   really you're really enjoying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48   what I enjoy most is the comments that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/288">TS</a>]

00:04:52   see so often oh yes I know these tickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   you podcast the CGP grey who sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   uploads YouTube videos do you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   I mean I have no say in this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   thing but the consensus on my Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   page was to reverse the order in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   and which my professions are listed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   mean all you can do is just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   facts I mean I'm not one to talk right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   because I have not uploaded anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   my YouTube channel for a while there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   a good reason for that which we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   into later like I just have a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   footage who's sitting on my iPhone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   I haven't been able to do anything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   because I've been working on some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   stuff but I'm pleased to see that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   made your return I'm glad I'm glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/331">TS</a>]

00:05:35   - you're pleased that I've made a return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   I always figure it's not for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   determine how people want to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   what it is that I do and I'll I'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   them describe it however they want but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   do too think it's funny when people list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   essentially in reverse order all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   things that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/350">TS</a>]

00:05:50   those are always entertaining comments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   think it makes sense though cuz like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   have to mostly regular shows like - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   mostly regular podcasts in any YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   channel where you post stuff on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   incredibly sporadic basis I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/363">TS</a>]

00:06:07   arguing with the Wikipedia here I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08   think it's funny that someone went in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   and changed it I am looking at CGP grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   podcaster and educational youtuber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   mm-hmm that's wonderful that is one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/373">TS</a>]

00:06:17   glad you liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   did you go back into the swing of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   okay yeah yeah it was fine okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/380">TS</a>]

00:06:24   this is one of these things that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   a bit weird to have a podcast where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/388">TS</a>]

00:06:32   sort of talk about your working life in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   public because like sometimes there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/394">TS</a>]

00:06:38   things that you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   can't talk about and people know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   always whenever I can I tried to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   time off for the summer because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   the eternal teacher within me who feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   like summer time nobody should work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   during the summer time but this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   summer just for various things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   aren't necessarily really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   talk about on the show like I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   busy with non public work stuff so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/417">TS</a>]

00:07:02   YouTube channel was essentially on pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   for a couple of months and that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   of what the part of what the delay was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   but the Q&A video like people seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   like it the reception seems to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   I'm never quite sure with the Q&A video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   as I always feel like since they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   little bit of a different kind of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   I don't know how they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   received but yeah I'm always happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   post up on the the YouTube channel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   I genuinely feel better when I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   kind of thing is that that's the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   work that my brain treats as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   realest most counting estate i do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   like oh you've uploaded a YouTube video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   that's that's real work like oh you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   out a bunch of podcast as months it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   like ah you were just talking to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   like that's not real work is is how my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44   brain sort of treats it okay okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   keep treating it like that that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   and you keep treating it like no work if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   that helps you to continue to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   things that's fine by me I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/472">TS</a>]

00:07:56   that it helps me to continue I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   simply saying that's how my brain treats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   it yeah and it's it's just like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   can't argue with brains you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   gonna do what they do and like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   genuinely try to argue with my brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   be like you know podcasting is real work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   too and my brain just kind of shrugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   at that it's like yeah I guess whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   and it looks away whatever lazy planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   reacts yeah exactly exactly are you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   into the swing though like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   working on meaty videos you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   what are they they're historical science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   videos that you make historical science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/506">TS</a>]

00:08:30   video yes yeah we did we actually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   didn't quite get into it last time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   we sort of touched on like our sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   schedules being all messed up and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   have to tell me about that that sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39   survey later but gosh yeah we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43   still didn't really understand what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   occurring with that but anyway I did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/525">TS</a>]

00:08:50   were talking then about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   trying to have a regular sleep schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   and how important it is and and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   one of these things that I did I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   have this really exhausting summer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   as I was mentioning last time like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   just felt like I could not get back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   the regular flow of things and so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/544">TS</a>]

00:09:08   end up taking a gradation to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   buckle down and be like okay brain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   and me like we're gonna get back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   the schedule of real work that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/556">TS</a>]

00:09:20   going to happen and we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/560">TS</a>]

00:09:21   getting up at 5:30 and you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   like any of it but we're gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   and it's interesting it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   really quite brutal because my brain was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/569">TS</a>]

00:09:33   bucking very hard against this but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   it it was important to do and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   that's part of the reason the Q&A video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   came up and there's some other things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   the work it is interesting trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   the thing where you force yourself back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47   into a into a pattern so anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   something that I was up to and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   now regularly getting up you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/593">TS</a>]

00:09:57   early in the morning which again is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   thing that really is the number one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   contributing factor to how do I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   about how my working life is going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   how productive do I feel that I am at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   any particular day so I'm pretty happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   about that well I'm pleased that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   were able to somehow get it back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   like my thing was just I came back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/612">TS</a>]

00:10:16   work with a messed up schedule at one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   the most important parts of my working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   year so I had was forced into a actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/621">TS</a>]

00:10:25   my sleep cycle wasn't forced at all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   it was still just a disaster for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   the last few weeks but there's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   not really been much choice like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   have to kind of just live of it it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   didn't help that like the way in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/637">TS</a>]

00:10:41   the work of curves during this period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   time meant that there was some times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   where I was going to bed at 2:30 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   I had enough choice be me because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   were recording with somebody and like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   the west coast of the time they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/653">TS</a>]

00:10:54   exactly right like that there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   I can do about that and so that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   didn't help so like even because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   was a lot of stuff contributing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   staying up later even if I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   to so basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   I'm still in a real bad way with sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   right now mm-hmm but it's not jet lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/671">TS</a>]

00:11:11   like I've just got a really screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   schedule because I haven't done a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   good job of managing it and maybe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/676">TS</a>]

00:11:20   the first time in my life I have truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   recognized the effect of bad sleep on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   oh yeah I feel like maybe for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   time I've really been able to be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   I feel really bad today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   and I think it might be because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   haven't been sleeping mm-hmm and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   maybe the first time this has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   really happened and I think it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   this has been the biggest shock to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   system like with the amount of time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   I spent in another time zone and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   not being able to get into a position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   where I was able to change it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   though my life around me has dictated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   that I had to change right so like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   been having like errands to run or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   meetings or things that were happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   in the morning in England mm-hmm but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   everything else was happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   evening in the u.s. dark is you're a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   big stretch of time in-between so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   having to cater to all of it in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   that was also being quite badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   jet-lagged mm-hmm right like it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   just happening and this is maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/742">TS</a>]

00:12:26   first time where I've been like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   not felt great the last couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29   and I and you know I've been getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   colds and stuff like that happening here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   and there right like it keeps coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   going and it's like yeah I need to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   more since you happen to have have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/760">TS</a>]

00:12:44   this schedule where there's two blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   of working time that are separated by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   great distance during the day have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   ever tried naps Mike I hate naps say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/770">TS</a>]

00:12:54   hate them I used I used to be this guy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   got and I used to I used to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   moral rejection of naps as I go naps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04   that's that's for lazy people and cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   right that you know like a grown man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   it's not gonna lie down and take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   little nap but it is it is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   I have tried and I feel like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   beautiful and perfect sleep cycle for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   but that is yet also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   fragile is is the waking up early in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   morning and then taking a very brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   midday nap and kind of breaking the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   into two phases it's like when I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/808">TS</a>]

00:13:33   into that groove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34   it's everything everything is right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37   the world and I used to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   opposed to naps and if you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41   opposed to then like I think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   I think you should just give it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   like a very very short naps like just 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   minutes maybe 30 minutes you know not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   hour but it it it really is very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   I want to give you I've just written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   this down in a notebook that I have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/834">TS</a>]

00:13:55   front of me I have I have two points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   here about naps okay point number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   every time I ever taken a nap we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   purpose for accidentally mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   accidentally I wake up and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/846">TS</a>]

00:14:10   where I am I don't know what day it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   don't know what time it is and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   feel atrocious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   yeah no accidental naps are awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   I'm with you there 100% of the time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   you wake up from an accidental nap it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   that feeling of like like what where am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/863">TS</a>]

00:14:28   I like what what happened in my was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   suffocating to death and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33   you have that horrific sleep inertia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   where it's like oh I'm sitting up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   the couch but it feels like only my soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   has sat up and my body is still lying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   the couch it's terrible yeah that sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   that you made is the perfect way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48   describing the feeling mmhmm yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   that is also the the alarm went off when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   I was in the middle of a dream waking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   sound that's right this is like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   up earlier in the morning as a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   can't I just need air but actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/899">TS</a>]

00:15:04   just asleep the second part is an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08   that I have about planning into my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   while I consider to be wastes of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15   and how I feel about those I waste time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   procrastinating like every human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   right like I waste of time of course but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   it but if I plan into my day a period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   time where I won't be working I get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30   anxious about that if I'm busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   this is my own problem that I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   take steps to deal with and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   something that I think about but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   like if I shed you a lunch with a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   whilst I'm also busy or I have a lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   with a friend booked in and then my week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   goes pear-shaped and I end up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   bunch of tasks that need to be completed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   I feel really anxious about that mmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   the idea of having naps like planning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   take a nap I don't know I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   would I feel like I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   uncomfortable about like oh I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   gonna go to sleep for an hour like no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/963">TS</a>]

00:16:06   don't know yeah we can don't go to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   for an hour that's terrible Oh bad idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   well what are we talking here again 2030 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   minutes that's all you need here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   also here's the trick with the 2030 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   minute nap is you shouldn't really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   expecting to go into full sleep when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/981">TS</a>]

00:16:26   get into this routine you're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   know really sleeping what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   is you're going into a kind of low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   mode for a little bit that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37   what's occurring and it makes it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   to pull out of without feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   you're drowning and you're dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   don't do the hour thing if you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   going to feel terrible with with an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   sleep that's that's bad idea because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   always takes me a long time to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   sleep always yeah but this is it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   don't don't think about it like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   going to bed in the middle of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   think about it more I'm closing my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   for 25 minutes and that that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   all you have to do just close your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   for 25 minutes and and that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   the minimum that that needs to occur and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   I guess at it in my experience this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:15   this is a fragile thing in in even in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:20   life which I try to keep as relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   unscheduled as possible like stuff comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   up that'll always make it inconvenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   to just go to sleep for a little bit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   the middle of the day but when when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   works like it works really great and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   you if you know you're going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   be up later it's it's vital like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:39   one of my top conference survival tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   like I was doing a bunch of conferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   over the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:45   is you have to go back to the hotel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:50   take a nap at some point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   afternoon and and like that that is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   me conference survival tip number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   like if you you do not do this you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   severely regret it later in the day well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04   but see then the thing is I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   that's gone wrong for you like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   in situations where I said to you where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   were you yesterday and you said to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   was took a nap and didn't wake up I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   no memory of what when this is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   you're like making up a story so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   you don't have to take it out this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   true I'm not a nine year old like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   one's putting me down right like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   good I remember it was somewhere it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   even at all I was at a WWDC or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35   I remember saying to you where did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   go and you were like oh well I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   take a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:39   and then I woke up I know what should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   know what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43   I went upstairs in the evening and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47   fell asleep on my bed because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   exhausted and slept through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   night yeah that was a WWDC that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   first WI can see was I thought like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   I'm gonna come back downstairs I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   gonna go upstairs for a little while but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   this is actually my brain was tricking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   me because I was really tired from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   time changes but that that was not a I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   lying down to take a nap thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   is it was it was like 9 o'clock at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   already which by my measure is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   reasonable time for everyone to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   winding down the night but it seems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   for most people this is when they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   the evening begins just kicking off yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16   which which I find very frustrating are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   you sitting in front of your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   right now if so I'd like you to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   about something if your computer crashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   crashed hard it circuits casting off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:29   their mortal coils what would you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   think about all of the documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   projects contracts photos videos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   you have on your computer that you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   never see again you need to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   those files with online backup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   that's why this episode of cortex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1186">TS</a>]

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00:19:59   backup for your Mac or PC I know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   mentioned it before but a while ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   had a real hard crash on my computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   were it not for Backblaze I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   lost the original documents for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   my youtube back catalogue but because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   had Backblaze they just shipped me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   encrypted drive through the mail a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   couple days later and all was right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   the world back please is what I use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   keep my file safe it's what I have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   to restore my irreplaceable files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   it's not just for me they have restored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   over 20 billion files if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:38   Backblaze running on the computer you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   sitting in front of right now you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43   need to change that open up your web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   browser and type in back please calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   slash cortex go there right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1248">TS</a>]

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00:20:56   their service is simple gimmick free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   clear $5 a month unlimited backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:03   Backblaze calm / cortex I would suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:07   that you try the NAP thing just try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   for a little while and I also I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   also want to make a suggestion out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   for you and for the listeners is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   reframe sleep as part of the working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:21   cycle not to not necessarily think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   in the way that you're thinking of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25   like I'm planning in this period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   where I'm doing nothing I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   it's important to reframe this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   necessary part of work and that is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   of the reason why I like I specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   took time in my schedule to say like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   number one thing that I am going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   to fix is my sleep schedule and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   have to mess up the rest of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   that I'm working on like I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   because this is this is like the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   bass level if this isn't fixed almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:57   nothing else matters so I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   should be a reframing in your mind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   sleep as a part of work mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   this feels like a long-term project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   honestly like if this is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   thing now I'm able to do because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   right now I'm listening to you and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   I'm not gonna nap this might have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:17   a real long-term thing I just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   know maybe maybe I need to feel these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   effects again right so this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   time it's ever happened to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   they're still a part of my mind where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   it's like these will really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   extenuating circumstances but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   also a possibility that as I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   approaching my 30th year that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38   how I'm gonna be now right that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   every time I come back from a trip I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   gonna feel like this so I need to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   that's gonna be a thing that occurs as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   take more trips throughout the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   the year then I'll maybe consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   nothing but right now I'm clutching onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   anything that still makes me feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   I'm in my 20s so we're not taking naps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   is one of those things I wasn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   bring it up Mike but of course like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   this is this is one of these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:06   as not it not you but like as one ages I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   saw in my find that they need to focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:13   on some things in a different way than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:16   well look I'm not an old man right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   it didn't say nighttime I'll say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   you were I know I know that I can and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   know that there's gonna be many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   that hear me say as I'm approaching my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   phase and they start rolling their eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26   but over the last couple of years there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29   have been a few things in my life that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   have felt change and I know it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   I'm getting older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   can you give me an example of a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   that you have noticed as you've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   older that has changed are you able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   drink as hard as you used to Mike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42   would say I've never really been a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   drinker hmm but what I have noticed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:50   if I have any alcohol I can tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:54   next day like if somebody was to sneak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   alcohol into a beverage right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   would know the next day because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   feel like that they poisoned me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   technically I think they have exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   what yeah I'm yeah okay technically they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   did but yeah I I would say that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:13   it now in a way that I never did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   like any amount of alcohol some like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   always get a bad hangover or I feel sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   or anything like that just my body knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   who that is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   easiest one that like I have felt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   like yeah okay I feel like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   probably a consequence of me get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   becoming older those are two things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36   this conversation one of one of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   I do think that you do have to be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   that things change over time and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:46   you I think you are wandering into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   valley that many of us wander into which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   is is recognizing likes you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   protective of sleep and I always found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   myself very sensitive to changes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   sleep and I think that that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   cranking up as time goes on and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:04   there's the other thing of just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   being aware of your own working habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   changing over time so yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   something out like something I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   really interested in was with his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   episode of trying to fix my own sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   schedule is like I've always been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:20   naturally a morning person and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   just having such a hard time booting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   back into that that there is there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   question in my mind of maybe it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   to reevaluate what your schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   actually looks like like maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   thing that was that was previously true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   is no longer true that waking up super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   early is is like the best way to for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   to have a good day because again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   you have to constantly re-evaluate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   way that you work and the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   set up your schedule and what while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   have booted myself back into what I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   what for me I know is the ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   situation where either wake up or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   pretty much half awake before my alarm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:02   goes off anyway and that's like ah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   great now I know I'm in in the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   zone but it took so long to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10   that I do wonder like hmm maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:14   early of a schedule just isn't for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   anymore and I'll have to just see over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   the next several months like how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   how do I feel about this maybe this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   thing that needs to be adjusted or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   maybe it's just well I had an unusually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   exhausting summer and it just took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   longer than expected to get back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   things because stuff changes over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   but it it's like I think it's varying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   this skill of observing yourself I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:40   is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:40   the most important skills that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   to have and being sensitive to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:48   don't always stay the same as as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   as part of that skill so gray I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   like I'll you know I'll listen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   they're waiting on the edge of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   seats right for where my parcel is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   don't think they are but okay I'm afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   to say that there will be no live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   boxing today on the show oh you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08   going to treat the listeners to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   audio unboxing of your Apple watch nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   because I have been bitten by the bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   that is possible delivery in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:21   apparently I'm not in my home today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   mm-hmm because they have attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:28   deliver to me and couldn't couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   couldn't find me so I don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   what happened I'm sitting right here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   yeah that's that so no I'm sorry I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   sorry cortex listeners there will be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   there will be no live unboxing for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   Apple watch on the show today because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   I'm I'm in some other dimension I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   I'm sorry Mike it's like you have my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50   have my sympathies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   I too have very many a time at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   of the day gone down to the ground floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   in my building and discovered many a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   letter informing me that I was not home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   all day to receive my packages that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   was waiting for feel like you lazy back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:06   I know what happened they gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:10   delivery window you know like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   gonna deliver between 3:15 and 4:15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   mm-hm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:15   4:15 past mm-hmm so oh I see you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:21   I'm shenanigans here yeah somebody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   filling out on his tablet that he hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   his marks and you get whirring home yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   because there's a lot there's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   lot of things to deliver on a new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   day breaks it's also a new iPhone day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   today and I expect that they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:40   that they were just gonna miss me out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   my window because he has double windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   he needs to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   you know juicing the stats yep great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   scourge of the world I said I get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   and then I want to change my delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   day but the system is experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   difficulties all right from everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   else who's really angry exactly we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   experiencing issues updating a possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   information at this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   me too me too I'm sorry Mike asked I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:07   sorry that you didn't get your device's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   on day one it's okay I genuinely am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   sorry because I know this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   that is actually part of your job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   getting these things on time yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   luckily the Apple watch isn't as much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   a problem if it was a phone I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   in in much more disarray right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   this is just gonna be a mild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   inconvenience honestly it's like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   block it out I've still got a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   before see you've shown your hand then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   you didn't buy an iPhone 8 no I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   buy an iPhone 8 oh yeah we're likes ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   so slightly sneaking towards the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   discussion again which we're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:39   have right now no of course I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   talk about the sleep survey because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   kind of took a real turn gray in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   reddit it kind of got bit out of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   so my original conceit of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52   ill-conceived survey was one quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   question just to try and get a rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   idea of do cortex listeners if given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:01   chance would they give up sleep right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   like that was all the question was to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   it was like do you prefer to sleep or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   would you prefer to not sleep but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   know what Mike when you were talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   me on the show I was very confused as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   what your question was okay and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   also really aware when I was listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   to do my edit of the show that I still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:20   still felt like I don't understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   the hell this guy's asking me I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   under I don't I can't conceptualize what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   this question really is the thing I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   I think this is a problem that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   people had too many people were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   to find this to be like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   scientific survey that I was attempting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   to conduct it was just a pure thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   like if somebody said to you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   never sleep again would you take it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   was a lot one to know is like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   idea of do our listeners feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:47   enjoy sleep I guess is maybe a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   way to phrase the question yeah enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   so much that they would never give it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   that's kind of it but Mike I was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   for this is like if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   conversation or someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   says like Oh what superpowers would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   want you have to get out the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:03   yes alt about what the details are of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   the superpower because it really matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   like I'm gonna belitz like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   yeah let me we need to go through a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   things here as like well when the heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   death of the universe arrives like am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   still around because I'm invulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   like well then I don't want you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   like you need to get out the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   paper here and so when you say you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   need to sleep is like okay well do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   live the same amount of time and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   lifespan has just increased a third or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   am I still counting down the same number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   of hours like this this really matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   just just take it as it was all it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   it was just a simple question anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   know now I've learned a lesson because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   the reddit thread is full of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   asking me for raw clarifications no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   there's no rules everybody like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   though I wasn't trying to set up a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   for you you can't answer the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   without understanding the rules yes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   I mean it was meant to just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   really like a litmus test a gauge like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   just just a very rough idea was all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   was looking for but you really found out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   is that there's there's two kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   listeners the kind of listeners who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   don't care and the kind of listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   like me who get out the rulebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   they're like okay well now tell me where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   on this D&D chart this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   follow right what do you mean by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14   word chaos right that's that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   discovered oh do you know what I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   actually see a delivery driver outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   my window go go get it a try and shout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   go get him go run I don't know if he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   gonna make it guys I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:37   listeners can hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   I just heard mic through my headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   yelling at the delivery driver to go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   his attention let's see what happens I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:47   sure this is very dramatic for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   listeners I'm I'm sure you're all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   invested in whether or not Mike is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53   getting his watches today doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:59   good doesn't sound good I don't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:03   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   I didn't sound it didn't sound good when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   you were coming back sitting outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   window he's like nah 62 like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   anyway alright now that you're back Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   tell me the results of this sleep survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   that made no logical sense at all when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   you really went just ask people do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   like sleep yes or no for the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   from the the beginning of the survey to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   now it was around 60% to 40% and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:32   that's 60 percent people would say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   wouldn't want to sleep and 40 percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   people said that they would sleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   even though so many people required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   rules there there were many thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   people that filled out the survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   without clurel clarifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   basically my hypothesis that I had in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   mind came true which was that given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   chance most of our listeners would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   prefer to use that time for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:58   other than sleeping that was kind of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   I wanted to know really but for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   reason IVA I phrased it badly or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   just this isn't the type of question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   you're allowed to ask people I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11   know who those people are who filled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   yes they'd go without sleep without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   doing the rules clarification that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   it's like wishing with a genie you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   without getting out the rules as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   I mean well you're gonna get out buddies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   forever that you didn't ask for if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   do that this is one of those monkey pour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   type situations that's all it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   know you say you can't sleep well well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   that means you lose your eyelids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   like ends up being but like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   bad situation in there somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   but that's not what I was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   but that's what I think most people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   our reddit thread we're expecting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   gonna happen but it was a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   question I feel like you got a you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   real bucket full of internet right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   Mike that's what I got I got a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50   pistols of internet thrown at me over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53   over a couple of weeks and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   as well this is I know this is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   one of these things it's gonna come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   to me forever this is gonna be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:02   those things that in four years time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   will still be getting questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   clarifications of the rules of the sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   no sleep survey that'll teach you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   more surveys Mike Wow yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   no most no more surveys I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   say that though because I might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   surveys in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   but next time I do a survey I'm at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20   gonna know what I'm letting myself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   for instead I'll do a survey I'll ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   the people if they want surveys but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   what kind of survey is great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2126">TS</a>]

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00:36:13   identity and that's where hover comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2173">TS</a>]

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00:36:19   I have funny joke URLs like Mike was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   right calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   I have jokes that I play on friends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   mine and I buy the URLs for them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2184">TS</a>]

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00:36:29   what these things are and we find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2189">TS</a>]

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00:36:33   your idea out into the world you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2193">TS</a>]

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00:37:18   things that I care about ok so one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   the reasons that I've struggled to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   is that I decided to take on a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   tied to the busiest part of my year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:32   which was to record an audio book close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   friend and colleague of mine mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   Federico vtg he runs a website called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   Mac stories and Mac stories is focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   on technology mostly around Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   whether it's iOS devices Mac's I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   stuff they talk about these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   things we spoken about Federico a lot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   this show because he's very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   working on the iPad workflow and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   like that he writes a very in-depth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:59   interesting iOS review every year so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:03   was working on one for iOS 11 where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   goes into detail about all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   different features and facets of iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   the update and the released Apple put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   out I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   Federico's review is the definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   review yes iOS 11 yep because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   explores and talks about everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   is coming into it and it's really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   you can pick it up you can read parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:26   Federico's reviews are longer than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   types of things that I would usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   read I think I've said on this show many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   times like I don't like to read like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   not a big reader I'm not a big reader I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   struggled to keep focus and attention on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   reading books I like to listen to books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   I like audiobooks you know any book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   we've read for the book clubs all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   sort of stuff I I do in audio versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   which I have mentioned I think serves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   you poorly for some of the books that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   have read but I can't imagine redo some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:57   of those books that became what a scam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   yeah but that's the thing is I would pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   no attention to it and give up if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   to read like I would give up they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04   it just never would have worked so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   have spoken to Federico a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   about like you know why don't you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   an audiobook version of your review like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   I would love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:13   it would be an easier way for me and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   sure many other people to consume the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   content and we spoke about this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21   couple of years and then I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   putting my money where my mouth is and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   recommend it to be the person that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   do it who we agreed upon it and I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:31   and it was like 35 hours of work but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   narrated produced edited mastered an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:39   audio book for Federico's iOS 11 review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:44   and it's 5 hours and 22 minutes long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   in total and it's available now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49   buy it there'll be links in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   notes if you're interested I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   a really good way of consuming it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   like podcasts and want this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   information then go for it the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   I'm bringing this up today is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   there are a couple of things through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   this whole process that were interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   to me the first of them being deadlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   and bosses because I've not really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:11   either of those things imposed on me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   a while oh don't you think but this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   the all of the shows that you do art are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   deadlines like I think of you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   imposing deadlines upon me with regards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   to this show like the podcasts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   deadlines yeah I imposed deadlines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   other people know but not me I choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:34   the deadlines right like I choose them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   the over the deadlines that I have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   days at deadlines that I choose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   deadlines for this will not chosen by me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   I mean in some instances they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   chosen by Apple like whenever Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   wants because we don't know when iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   is gonna come out until like a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   before it comes out I always forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   for some reason I in my head I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   thinking that that that is and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   release date is announced at WWDC but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   isn't so there is like a time frame that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   you can work to but so like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   these issues where like we didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   when it was gonna come out so there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   like this deadline being set by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   universe and then you know also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   working with Federico like I'm working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   for him I'm producing this book for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   he will put deadlines on me if like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   is when I'm gonna need it like they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   announce it on this date but I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   gonna need it X amount of time before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   that so that was interesting yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   there's there's some amount of you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   to have it ahead of time yet to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   ready to actually go up and I had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   real boss right I had someone setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36   the tasks I had someone providing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   with the material they would set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   deadlines they would make approvals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   request me to make changes I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   done something like this in a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   time how did you feel about having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   boss like are you going to badmouth your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   boss on the podcast he was no it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   fine because it was also it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   collaborative thing right but there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   parts of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   reminded me of having a bus and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:05   in a process because you know like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   would give me something I would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   something out of it and they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10   like are you gonna change this word you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   got to reread this sentence you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   done this in the right way like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   what it was like when I was writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   advertising copy at the bank right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   that's that was this process and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   been a really long time since I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   it and it was very interesting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   illuminating for me illuminating how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28   was both better and worse than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   expected in its own weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   interesting ways right like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   worked for myself for long enough which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   makes me believe that I could never work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   for anybody ever again but like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   fine like it wasn't a problem for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:45   be told what to do yeah like okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:49   you say that but I think this is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   different situation because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   essentially talk to yourself into doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57   you really bullied your way into a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   or like there needs to be an audio book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   version there needs to be an audio book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   yeah yeah eventually like so I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   make an audio book for it I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   this is this is a normal boss employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   relationally it's not well that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   I'm saying it's like it's better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   worse right because like the better part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   is that oh it was fine and the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   part is realizing that all maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   true all along and I actually can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:18   anything that people tell me right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   like just the idea of the process when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   we sought it out like I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   like oh I'm gonna be a real diva here be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   like nobody can tell me how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   things differently like you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   do them my way that like I know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   do here but then when they would hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   things to me and be like oh you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   change this because of this it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   okay you know that makes sense right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   it was it was interesting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43   illuminating to me in the instance of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   was able to break out of my own ego and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:50   actually work with people in this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   which is different to how I work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   like in my mind it's like oh I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   professional here right like I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   I'm doing but I was still able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   receive criticism and feedback in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:07   that I was concerned that I might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   able to because I've been out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   world for so long who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   so it that was an illuminating thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   me which I found to be very useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   know at least like for future projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   and stuff like that right like that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   aware of the fact that I am able to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:29   on this type of feedback and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   changes like it was it was useful for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   to know that I have not completely lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   those skills when I was concerned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   maybe I would have who because for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   of my projects like I tend to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:45   final say on most of them or at least if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:48   I'm not final I feel like I have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:52   say as everybody else because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   collaborative effort but this really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   a project that I was turning in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   like this was somebody else's work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   I was just reading like I am merely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   method of delivery you're a cog in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:09   machine like that that you are and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   there were changes that I felt should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   made because they sound better to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   that kind of thing I had to confirm them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   with the person whose work I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   attempting to change right like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   wasn't I didn't have like complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   agency in this as I do in my other work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   and so it was an interesting experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   in that way of becoming a cog in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30   machine again like I was part of a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   producing a thing but it wasn't my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:36   original work mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   so it was a very different thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   felt a lot more like being part of a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   again because that was what it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   I was flexing those muscles again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   the creative work that I would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   together for a piece of mail that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   through somebody's letterbox the artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:56   I didn't make that it wasn't my idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   somebody in a design agency made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   artwork I just approved it and turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   into a thing and put it through where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   needed to go right like it was very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   like that again and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   surprising to me that in that instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   like that was a thing that I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   still deal with work with and be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:21   with so it was it was illuminating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   because I wasn't sure when I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   took this project what it was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   like to be a part of a thing which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:33   don't really have much control over hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36   are you going to give up relay and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   back to the bank yeah that's well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   that is what I'm building to here as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   was wondering is if you found you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   missed it and you want to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   bank I didn't miss it I didn't miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:51   in that way right mm-hmm it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   interesting learning experience for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   but this isn't how I want to do my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   like in every single day of my life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2816">TS</a>]

00:47:00   was exhausting to produce this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:06   because it felt completely different to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   podcasting in a way that I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   expecting well I mean you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:16   mentioned everybody having to check with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   the original author if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   change the wording of anything because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   mean this is this is a thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   written word that it totally sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   different when you speak it aloud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   there's lots of ways that people write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   and read things that are totally fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   when they're being written in and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   that if you actually say it out loud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   is awkward like I don't know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   Federico's writing process is like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:45   I'm gonna I'm gonna guess he probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   doesn't have an outloud draft and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   then you are you are the person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   doing the outloud draft and you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   check with him and I just I happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   know that with that when um when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   companies Commission the audio books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   versions to be made like they do like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   have the author's read it if if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   author has a reasonable enough voice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   one of the other reasons why they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   to have the author read it is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   closes that loop of the author can then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   in the recording booth live just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   the changes to say like I know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   better if I just say it this way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   they don't need to confirm with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   because like we have the author right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   here he's the guy reading the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   now but but you could not do that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   you're actually recording the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   I think it's like I imagine it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   be pretty tiring to read read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:40   loud long stretches of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   somebody else has written like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:46   that is not in your authorial voice or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:50   is not the way you would say things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53   tricky because you're constantly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57   mindset of knowing it's not you who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:01   the presentations different the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:05   I'm talking now is just coming out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:09   brain right so like the things that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   saying and the way that I pitch my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   and all that sort of stuff it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   way that somebody naturally speaks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   you know like the way that your voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   takes a little rhythm that it takes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   goes up and down here and there it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   harder to do that sort of stuff when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   words were already created because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   can either read them through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   practice it a bunch of times well you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   what I did where it's like well I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   reading it and if it doesn't sound right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   I'll go back and fix it where like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   say something with like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   summarize so read it again read it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   read it again and then there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   words that all of a sudden like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   not in your mouth anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   like this sentence of three four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   words that somehow is impossible for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   and it's like why is this happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   me this you know it's tiring it's tiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   work because you are your brain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   working at a completely different rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   because like as I'm talking to you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   now I'm like looking around and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   looking at a document in front of me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   there are just like things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   happening in it it helps kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   focus my mind because there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   stuff and I can talk and make silly hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   gestures but like I'm looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   page and I'm just reading the words on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   this page and it is like a it is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   very different experience in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   I wasn't quite expecting it to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   like the way that it made me feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   me and you will sit here for like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   four hours like three or four hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   we'll record this show I would sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   front of the microphone for 45 minutes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   felt like I was gonna pass out okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:39   I've never done audio book but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   the closest like I'm realizing as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   talking that is my experience is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:47   the ads for the podcast well I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   you were gonna say like doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   scripts for your YouTube videos that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   probably what it's closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   to nobody that that's different because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   that that is a thing that is in my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   that is also designed to be written out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   loud yeah okay the reason why I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   the ads is because like I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:05   concentrate so hard when I'm doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   ads and part of that it part of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   it like hearing you describe doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   audiobook it'sit's the same thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   it's like when we're talking the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19   just happen like if you if you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   attention you don't even really know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   you talk or how sentences are formed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   your head like it just kind of comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   and you're talking or like or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   say as I'm talking to you right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   moving my hands even though you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   here to see that I can hear you moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   your hands even it's it's just part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:41   how conversation occurs but reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   thing that has been written for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   read is just it's just more different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:50   and so yeah a guy I always find it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   like wow like the ads really take a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   of mental focus that and that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:59   exactly the reason it's the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00   you're going through with the audiobook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   that it's because it is not in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   voice because it's a sentence that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   not have been read aloud by the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   who's originally writing it it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   it's a different experience so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   thinking like if I if I was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   situation where we said like hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   know what we're gonna do we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:17   record all of the year's cortex adds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   advance in one go in an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   I feel like I would I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   thoroughly drained by the end of that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   I can easily see that when you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   the audiobook you know a 45-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   stretches like as far as you would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   to go before taking taking a break I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   really curious to know how long like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   real professional audiobook narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43   goes for I can't even imagine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   honestly like I can't uh the most I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   could do was an hour at a time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   would have to take a break mm-hmm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   if I would sit and talk for an hour and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   that's like you know I'm not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   speaking constantly for that hour you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   know if for every minute maybe I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   taking ten seconds right like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   that I would take like maybe a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   minutes here and there to like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   relax and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   like take a drink of water and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   go over things in my head and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   getting ready to start speaking again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   but if I would do that process for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   than an hour like I just couldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   anymore like I just have to get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   walk away it was a it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22   interesting and illuminating process I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   wasn't expecting it to be as hard as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   was to do like it just it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:31   surprise to me I thought that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   like I'd do this all the time like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   is no problem I speak for a living like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   it's fine my what my throat was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:42   hoarse that doesn't happen to me like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   will finish today and I'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:51   but I would spend a day maybe recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   like three or four hours for that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   and I could barely talk in the evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   there were just so many things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   this process that were surprising to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   in that way that it was like oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   think I have to be able to transfer my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   skills it won't be a problem but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   obviously it was easier for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   anywhere let the Edit was fine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11   like I could edit things together no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   there are points where like two halves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   of one word or two completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   times would be speaking right like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   one would ever know cuz like I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   gotten good at that over time that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   was easy to do yeah that that's a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   direct transfer of skills but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   expecting there to be a greater transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   of skills for the speaking part than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   there was obviously there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   things all right like I can present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35   things to people in a way that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   understand because I'm used to speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   and enunciate thing right like that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   thing that I have built that's a skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   that I've built but it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   surprising to me how taxing it was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   speak for long periods of time in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   way now for all these screenshots that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   Federico includes in his review did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   paint a word picture for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   right so this is part of it how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   do that right these were things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   had to do or like every time something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   is in parenthesis now you have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   the parenthesis voice everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   like the parenthesis voice you use when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   you're talking I use that voice but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   you come back on the other side of it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   it's not written to be done that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   it's really tricky and like so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   were stuff that I had to move around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   there or there were times when Federico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   would include a stir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   a small string of code mm-hmm how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   read that in a way that makes any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   to people you read it in a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   voice you have to pretend that you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:29   in that loop yeah that's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   and as string exactly you have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:35   have to be the snella Tron for a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   there and read it like that yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   stuff like that was very tricky and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   think that's part of it is that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   had to pay complete attention to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   word that I was reading in case there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48   anything like that was gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   so like the attention as well I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   what added to the fatigue like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   just a complete like you must focus you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   know and I expect a lot of the way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   the audiobook readers get around a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   of this stuff is spending a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   reading the text beforehand I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   have time to do that yeah well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   when you just said that I'm just I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   just wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   because I mean again Federico's reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:16   it's a lot of words like do you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   many what the word count was for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   book in the end I don't know off the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   of my head no it's gonna be like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   they are novella sizes I think we can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   can fairly say but I I'm just realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:32   though that it's it's not like he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:36   like he's just gonna finish the book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   on one particular day and then hand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   to you and it has to like yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   there's not going to be enough buffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   time but I mean when he thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   review is finished because the review I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   know is being like tinkered with until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   the absolute last possible second so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   I'm gonna guess that you must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:55   gotten segments as it's gone along like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   this segment is close enough just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   yeah that was how we decided to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   like there would be chapters that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   be completed in advance and I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   completing each chapter as they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   coming to me but it was a short period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   of time right like the ones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   done early they were done in like early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   August mm-hmm because they were easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:18   do they were done but then there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   bunch that were done within a week to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:24   ten fourteen days of the thing being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:28   released so there was a real time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:32   pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   took having everything done so with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   also trying to work my usual life at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:40   busiest time in my working year right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:44   do so during hi iPhone season when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48   life is the busiest it's going to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   also decided to add in another 35 hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:55   project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   yeah just on top of that for funsies so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   there wasn't enough time for me to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   and read the entire thing multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   before I read it so I had to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:06   everything as it was happening and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   make changes as I need it to right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   so I expect that one of the ways that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   is less mentally taxing is by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   already gone through it and having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   text in your mind in some way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   you probably then need to think less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   about what you change and what you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   and how you present things because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   I know that there is a part of my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   that is able to capture this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   because when I edit this show four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:34   five days sometimes after we've recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   it my brain knows the parts that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:41   be taken out without me knowing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   we'll get to a section and I'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   I'm gonna cut this part or like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   a part where I'm like oh I know I every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49   say this in a moment in a in a clearer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   way yeah so I'm just gonna cut that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   I don't actively remember these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   I don't note them down but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   floating around somewhere in my brain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00   I'm confident that if I would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   able to sit and read that book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   advance it would have been easier for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   to record it mmm but I didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   luxury of that time because the deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   was any time you're is like you you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   doing just-in-time audio book production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   that was it yep that was audio book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   demand so it was it was interesting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:27   that as well as like I don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   in my life like if there is a deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   and I can't meet there are steps that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   can take to change it there was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   that we could do about this if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   ever gonna happen it had to be on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   day right and so yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   interesting as well the other part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   which I've never done before was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   answering the question of how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   should I pay you for this do you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   how much are you Mike going to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   for the production of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   for the production of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   yeah so you know Federico asked me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   question like how much should I pay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   mm-hmm I didn't know how to answer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   question well Mike happen to you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   you spent a bunch of time tracking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   time yes you know exactly what what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   dollar value was worth every hour every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   subtlest yes and that was how I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   ended up coming to the figure ah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   is I had a rough idea of what I believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   my hours worth but the other thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   didn't know how long it was gonna take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   me yeah that's the other problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   I didn't know what was fair I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   know how good it was gonna be or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   anyone would even want to listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   it's like all of these questions going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:37   around in my mind is like so really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   didn't know how much money to to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43   I picked a number we agreed upon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   number I didn't want to go too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   right cuz it went to it felt like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48   go too high and this sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   like this guy's one of my best friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   like I don't want to you know like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   were there were so many things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   writing on this decision that made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   really tricky hmm I actually we ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:02   on an amount of money that I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   fine for my time it actually ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   being pretty much exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   consider my hourly rate to be for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   amount of time like the amount of hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   that it took me to put this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   together but I had no idea that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   going to be the case when I set out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   the project so it was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   experience for me and like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   saying to me or how much should I pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   you for this and then I had to like way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   up a bunch of factors that didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   any monetary value to them to pick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   an amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32   hmm yeah I mean you've got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   things here because yes of course this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   is this is where you do have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   complication of you you're working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   someone who is also a friend which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   always makes things harder interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   makes them you're interesting and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47   could say interesting but it's like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   perhaps less clear right is job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   another way to put it right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   the waters are a bit more muddied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   because like it's it's always tricky to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:58   separate out these these kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   and and yeah like you said you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   know how much it's how much it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   going to like how many hours you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   gonna be putting into this this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   thing you're you're describing hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13   the problems which in some sense where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/3733">TS</a>]

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01:09:23   have just one regular arrow device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   they even include a built in LED night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   light as well with an ambient light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   sensor look here's the thing with arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   you're gonna get Wi-Fi that's faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   than you've gotten before because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   get this distributed network it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   allows you to stay connected at high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:38   speeds no matter where you are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   house they have a great app that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   you to see what devices are connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   which is really awesome so you just open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   it up and you can see oh I have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46   many devices and it also allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   give people that come to your home codes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   so they could just get onto your Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   and against network really easily is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   so cool it's so simple to set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   devices look great and they stay out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   the way at home as well the new arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   system starts at 399 dollars for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   second gen arrow and two beacons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4202">TS</a>]

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01:10:21   this show and relay FM so great yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:26   move on to what some people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   consider to be the main event of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   episode for good reason I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:34   to you about the iPhone mm-hmm so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37   are multiple iPhones we have the iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:40   8 the 8 and the 8 plus and the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43   I want to know what you think about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:46   I know you think this is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   main event but I actually actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:52   have a whole lot of thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   um it's not about I've long really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   right it's about people just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4256">TS</a>]

01:11:00   know including me because I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   know what you think about these phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:04   so like it's not like Gray's about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:07   drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08   a bomb of knowledge on us always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   like what do you think about them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   well I mean this this is the first year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   in a long time where I didn't even watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:18   the keynote live what uh y-yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:23   long story that ends with I was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:26   foothills of Bavaria on a internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   connection that was was being herded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   me bit by bit on the back of sheep so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35   was I was not able to okay I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   able to watch it live I wasn't I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:40   even theoretically able to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   until days later so this is an actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   one keynote event that I have I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   seen I've only simply read articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50   later and then okay gone on to Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   website to take a look at stuff yes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   you've looked at the website though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   know what you need to know right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   the website really actually does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   better way of displaying the product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   the keynote video does because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   the point of it yeah it is it is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   where I I sort of thought like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:07   watch the keynote after but this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   is one case where watching it live is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   very fun watching it not live it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   yeah watching it not live I've become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:20   very aware of how to put this even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:26   Apple is going fast there's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:29   very low information density in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:33   keynote presentation that I think just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:38   mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:39   like I'll read some reviews and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42   look on the website and I'll get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   information from there that I need to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   that's that is how I have consumed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   information about iPhone X and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   and there we go that's that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   really waiting for okay so we got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:57   going on there's nothing I can do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:58   it everybody I will say I wish it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   called the iPhone X it's not what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   called if there was any question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   what gray was gonna call it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   question has now been answered so well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:10   mean if you just read it that seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   the way it should be said well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   why I constantly stumble over myself now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   are you that now so this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   I feel like this is a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   professional question are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25   on your cuz you because you Mike you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   an actual professional tech person yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:32   reviewing and talking about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33   all right I'm I just happen to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   show with you when we talk about tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   but like this is this is literally your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:38   job yeah are you going to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   effort to call it iPhone 10 even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:45   you must know in your heart of hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   that the vast majority of the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:51   population will forever call this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   iPhone X like you know that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   be the case right yeah people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:03   unaware will call this thing the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06   X forever mm-hmm like the I touch worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:12   than that and and for more reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   because it was never called the I touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   like blue eye and then touch were never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:20   written together like rats just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:21   something that people said and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   wrong and I don't really know why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   happened that people just forgot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   the pod existed in between the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   those two things but I was like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   too funny not to say but people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:36   say it would dead serious I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   that one so that one I do it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:39   don't dislike it because it's wrong I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   just think that that sounds ugly i touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:46   but the X it says it right like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:50   the letter X it's what it is right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:54   understand that people are going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   it the iPhone X it's why I keep calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   it the iPhone X accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   accidentally you could say no we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:04   not say that I mean you could I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   saying you would want to I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   that you could say it if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   but no it is the iPhone 10 and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   call it the iPhone 10 and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:14   endeavour to call it the iPhone 10 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17   as long as the Alpha intern exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20   because that's the correct pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   of the product like that's what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   called right you know that bad is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   it is it's like I don't call it if fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   right like I don't you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   iPhone right like I'd do my best to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   it the way it's supposed to be said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   opposed to how it may look sorry I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:38   not I was like I cannot parse what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   think he liked it that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   registering in my brain mm-hmm but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   I'm confused Mike because you save under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   lists right because I was correct like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   it's a it is a product made in Germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:52   right it is fun to list right like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:56   is what it is what was your other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:57   you want to fig to Daoist choice I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   get me started on this gray because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   you ask Siri things about todoist I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:07   found in my tests Siri just wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   it doesn't understand what to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:13   means and I have honestly had people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   tell me just say it like to diced I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   like oh it's come back to bite me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   one right so there we go got that going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   for me so that's what Siri things so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:27   you as a professional yeah going it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   you're gonna go for the iPhone 10 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:30   gonna call it the iPhone 10 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   that's the name right or like I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   curious like I just pulled up the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35   webpage because like obviously I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:39   that it's supposed to be called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   iPhone 10 I'm gonna devote 0% of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:43   brain to trying to do that but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:46   curious to say like oh let's imagine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48   hadn't been aware of this and I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   the kind of person who tries to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   the keynote and then realizes that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   super boring when it's not live and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   just went on to the Apple page where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   can buy the iPhone X and just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   see does it say ten anywhere on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:04   and as far as I can tell it it does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   there's that there is nowhere on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   page right where they write it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   save the world on it I wouldn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   right it's like they never did that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:13   OS x yeah and that is the reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   think it might not have been until maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:22   ten point five or ten point six like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   years and years later until I even ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28   first heard someone say OS 10 on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:32   podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:32   I was shocked if he says it was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:35   I only I like I'd followed Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   relatively closely but at that point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   time it had only been just through like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   a text-based pre podcast Internet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   never ever heard anybody say the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:46   of the Mac operating system I see but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   that was the different thing for me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   that the majority of time that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:51   familiar with I was 10 I'd heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   being said right like I didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:57   time in my life where I was hearing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:01   just was reading OS X in my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   without there being broadcasts or videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   or whatever it was I was consuming at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   the time where I would hear people call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   it OS 10 the other one which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   interesting example is his final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   because it's Final Cut Pro and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   Apple's position was that it's Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   Pro X like I thought that was the name I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:23   believe that is the name but like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:26   the thing that I'm wondering is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   I bought like a professional course to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   to review some of the details of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:34   that works because it was kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35   redoubling my efforts in the program and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   they keep pronouncing it Final Cut 10 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:40   I wonder if it if it really is ten in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:43   terms of Apple speak it just raises it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   raises like what it what is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   position on Final Cut like what what I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:50   be curious for someone to find in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:51   keynote where is someone on an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:56   stage saying the name of Final Cut do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   they say X or do they say 10 I now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   enough doubt in my mind that I bet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   say 10 when they talk about Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:06   although I think it's it's probably been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   a long time since Final Cut has been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:09   center stage an Apple event but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:13   anyway so I think you're making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:16   correct decision for you as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:17   professional person but I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   this is going to be such an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   tidal wave in the opposite direction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   everybody in the world it's calling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25   iPhone X and I think Apple is 100% to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   blame for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:29   and I would assume that they know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   so why do you think that they do it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   I don't know I think they didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:41   put the number 10 here right they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:44   want it to be iPhone 1-0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:47   I think that they wanted to call it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:52   iPhone 10 because the idea of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:55   being from the future we have the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   8 and the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4797">TS</a>]

01:20:00   because this is a phone that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:01   futures phone today and I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:05   sure why they chose the X like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   why they called it ten I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   reasons for calling it ten are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   right like that idea of being the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   I can't fully put my finger on why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:16   would choose the Roman numeral when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   they've removed the Roman numeral from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   the Mac like it's just Mac OS and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:23   name now there were a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   options that Apple could have gone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   for the name of this iPhone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:29   wouldn't have been numbers at all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   also would have worked Apple makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   interesting choices at naming products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   they always have they always will most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   of them don't make sense when you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   them under a microscope this one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   same like when you start to really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44   about it like why did they do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   because somebody liked the way it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   on a poster probably like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51   probably as far as it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   they're like when you go to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   website what do you see when you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   that page a huge colorful X then you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4856">TS</a>]

01:21:00   to the page I think that was just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   they wanted like futuristic weird it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:05   an X it's not a number-10 like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:09   wanted to keep for whatever reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   wanted to keep it to be sequential right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   that there could in theory be an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   9 still yeah I don't I don't know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:20   the iPhone is gonna happen depends there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:24   there are a lot of things that have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   happen between now and next year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   there not to be an iPhone 9 and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:29   means that they have to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   produce more of these edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:35   screen phones which as it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   right now where we're sitting at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   of September it is difficult for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   to produce them they're coming out later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   and there are lots of rumors of supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   chain problems and there are also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   know this phone's been heavily rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   as potentially it was most supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   be here last year so I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:55   think that they have to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   produce this phone at scale or maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   multiple sizes for there not to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:02   iPhone 9 next year and I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   where we sit right now I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   jury's out on that one it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:10   interesting question I expect that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13   the pre-order and wait period is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   to be a real bloodbath with this yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:18   the the kind the kind that we have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   seen before I think that I think you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22   be lucky you will be lucky if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25   one of these in 2017 I think you will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   lucky you might be right about that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   the air pods delay is going to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31   nothing compared to this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   expectation yeah because you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:36   are a lot of people saying that the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:37   thought 8 whilst it looks like a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38   fun it looks like the people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:39   waiting because they want the latest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   greatest fun right which I get I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   that camp myself but I want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   you think what do you think of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   funds like what is your opinion what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   you want why do you want what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   hate like what about these funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:55   interests you or doesn't interest you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   they at all like what is your opinion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   what's going on here I actually decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   that I'm just gonna get the iPhone 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   this year like I'm ok ok yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:07   actually not going to happen but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:13   thing is so great you make a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   really weird decisions when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   your iPhone so like it would in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   surprise me no I'm not gonna I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   gonna get the 8 I'm going to hold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   for the X and I am I'm hoping to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:28   this year and not in 2018 but depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:33   on how many milliseconds it takes me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   fill out my order at the exact stroke of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:39   whatever it is 1001 a.m. in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:42   Francisco yeah way it made it may take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:46   while longer but I mean I'm interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:49   in the phone I think it looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   good but the the really the biggest deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:54   for me is is simply that it is a a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:58   form factor which I have been I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:03   been unhappy with the form factor from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   Apple for the last 4 years you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   starting with the iPhone 6 which I which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:12   I really didn't like and I think they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   refined and made the design better over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17   time but I still just the physical size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:20   and interaction of the device has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   never been what I wanted out of a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:26   and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:27   I've always been trading off different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   amounts of unpleasantness for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:32   advantages yeah so that's why I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:35   am more excited about the new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:39   that I have been about an iPhone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   past four years and I can say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   genuinely nice to feel like I'm excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:46   to have a different form factor to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:50   it like can I feel like I'm gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   gonna really try to love this phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   and really just get used to its its size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   and I'm hoping it's in between II sighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00   is is better for my my personal use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:04   there are obviously there are a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   cool features and interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   about the phone but for me that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   is the number one biggest deal is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12   a different form factor and and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   what I want to to try out most with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:18   new phone yeah I think that they're for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:21   people that like the Plus people like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:22   and you there are gonna be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:23   interesting trade-offs here like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   what is this actually going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27   mm-hmm but I think that on the whole I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30   gonna be happy with this phone I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   will just say let me ask you a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   question actually do you think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   attractive yeah I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   good-looking phone just a notch bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   you know it doesn't I think this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:42   is a case where I'm totally fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:46   the knotch because I understand the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   limitations of what they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:50   mm-hmm I can totally understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:53   reason for making this decision and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   think it's fine like I'm perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   acceptable about this yeah what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   isn't what I think is a more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   question is is Apple going to decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:08   just stick with this knotch as like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   is what iPhones look like from now on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:14   a almost like a branding decision to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:17   distinguish them from other phones or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   Apple going to try to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   notches as quickly as possible and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   is this is a question I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   don't have I don't have a really solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   opinion on that I like I can I can blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:29   in the wind either direction based on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   who's talking to me at that point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   time I could see Apple saying no we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   going to keep this knotch there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   it will always allow us to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:40   in more and more sensors like in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:43   this dedicated area or I could see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   just getting rid of it as fast as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47   possibly can I don't know like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   you think about that as you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   I do have a very solid opinion on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   okay I think that they will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:58   remove the notch but they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:01   rush for it hmm I would expect the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:04   of working as quickly as they can to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05   find ways to do this but there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:08   in-between time which they will embrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   and I believe that over the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:13   years they will keep that notch they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   make it smaller than they may change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:16   in shape but they will take that space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   to put more sensors in to make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   like face ID better and to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   themselves some time to work through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:26   lot of that stuff and I think a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   example of their thinking behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   type of stuff is the Apple watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33   Apple watches have three revisions now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35   and the case hasn't changed because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   have been spending the time to stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:40   what they need to stuff in look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   previous iPhone you know the iPhone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   had a chin and a forehead which has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   pretty much the same proportions for ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:47   years whilst they were getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:50   everything into the phone that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:51   needed to get into the phone before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   felt like they could push the screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   more towards the edges I think they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   do this with the knotch I think part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   the reason the notch is there part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00   the reason that it looks the way it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   is so Apple can differentiate themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:04   in the market because if they created a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   phone that was completely flat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:08   top it would look just like a Samsung it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   would look just like an LG and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12   love or hate that design and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:13   totally up to you and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   consumer choice exists but I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:17   is part of it and I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   that they're asking developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   develop around it they want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:22   fill the screen is this is the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   Apple wants the iPhone to look you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:27   the outlines that they have if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   iPhone on the on the page and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   literally on their store page they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   showed the notch in the outline like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   they want the outline of a phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:38   they make to look like this like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41   long thought and I especially noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   this when I was when I was working in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:46   advertising job because there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:47   times when I would have to buy some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:51   stock like artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:54   and I would want to buy stock artwork of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   a smartphone because I wouldn't need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:59   or stock artwork of a smartphone look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02   like an iPhone I definitely ran across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04   that with animation stuff when I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   use clip art it's like you know what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   phone looks like it looks like an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   Apple created there is no argument about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:14   this I'm like except one Apple created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:17   the de-facto image of how a smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:20   of a touchscreen looks it is a rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:24   with a screen in the middle with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   space on the top and some space on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:28   bottom and for close to 10 years every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:32   smartphone had that basic design to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:35   they created that design language then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:39   over the last year or so maybe the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   two years companies like LG and Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:45   have created overall new designs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:50   the screens look different the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   the phone doesn't look like an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   anymore they look different you know LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:57   created a one that went all the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   the edges but you could still see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:01   front and then Samsung created their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:03   infinity's display where it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05   bleeds off the sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   they created designs for phones now both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:12   of these phones look different and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:13   outlines of these phones look different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:14   because companies have found ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   finally push the technology past what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18   had become the de-facto standard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:21   believe that Apple decided to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:25   decisions for this phone they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:28   have face ID because they wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29   rid of the touch ID they didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   put touch ID on the back so they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:32   put the cameras in there too decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:34   you either make a thin forehead you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:38   chop off the top put the sensors in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   you're done or you have the screen bleed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:43   around the sides in a big way in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   that nobody else is doing the essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   phone just has a camera in there it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   little one in the middle it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   like the iPhone the iPhone has this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:54   black bar that goes across the top I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   think that they decided that they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:59   to create what they believe their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   smartphones are going to look like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   potentially the next 10 years this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   the design they chose for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   because whether you love them or hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   them Apple are sometimes the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:13   sometimes second-biggest handset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:14   manufacturer they have to make a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:17   that they think makes sense for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:18   they moved away from the chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:21   forehead and they went for the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22   this is the iPhone this is what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:25   believe the future of phones is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   look like and this might be what ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   being stopped photography in five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32   but what will probably be it would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:34   something more like an LG but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:37   decided they didn't want to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   what a phone looks like and they've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   their phone look weird and different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44   its own way now well I think of I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:48   like seeing little signs that say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   no cell phones allowed thank you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   know in various places yeah and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:53   it's just it's always interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   that what is chosen as that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:57   symbol and I would say in many public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:01   places in a city it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   overwhelmingly the 1990s cell phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06   a little keyboard with a wire sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   up on the side just think is is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:11   you know it's funny anachronistic in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   know in this way if I go like what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   icon for what a phone looks like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   phone that nobody has used in forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   you know and then you do see places that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   use the iPhone looking phone right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:24   there like a no phones allowed symbol or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   like here's the thing for your phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   there is an interesting thing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31   I will give give Samsung that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   phones are how to put it more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:36   elegant or more simple in their design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:40   but you do run into the problem that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42   can't just use a rectangle as a symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   for a phone it has to have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:48   that's a little bit more recognizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50   than just a rectangle if you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   about very simple iconography and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:55   is I do think it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:56   question of like what will the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:59   that is is the outline of the phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   the notch like will that start showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:02   up as a generic symbol for phones in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:06   same way that the like clearly an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:09   of the past showed up everywhere as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   generic symbol for phones I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:14   but I'm I'm willing to bet that at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:16   very least a standard rectangle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:19   nothing to distinguish it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21   going to show up as an icon for a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   because it is not iconic enough there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:26   nothing to identify it and this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   I wonder if Apple is deciding to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:31   stick with it because I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:34   that does give you the advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   having a space where you can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:39   stick new sensors and new stuff without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:44   having to worry about how does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   interact through a screen that is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   play they have given themselves some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51   leeway yeah and it's like you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:54   if even if let's say we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   technology to put all of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:57   underneath the screen right now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59   don't necessarily know what other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   sensors you might want to add and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   there's no doubt that the the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   of can you add a sensor versus can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:09   add that sensor also underneath a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   the second thing is harder to do and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:15   if you leave yourself space you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:18   potentially put stuff in sooner than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:21   otherwise could if you also had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23   figure out how to get it under under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   screen so I wouldn't be surprised if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28   they if they keep the notch around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   but that said like I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31   surprised if in three years Apple says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:32   how the hell with it like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:33   going we're just going all screen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5673">TS</a>]

01:34:35   well I really don't have a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:36   opinion on this one but I am I am glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:40   that it's like we're in a phase where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42   is fun and interesting speculation time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:45   about what Apple is up to as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:48   like oh it's the iPhone 6 again yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:51   just with with some changes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:54   iPhone 8 look like a great phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56   the iPhone 8 looks like a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   provision than the 7 from the six oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00   yeah but it is being completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:03   overshadowed yeah I'll put it in air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:06   quotes the wireless charging like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   think that is a really great addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   and that's the thing that I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   forward to and and I am also I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   really glad that Apple put the wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17   charging in the 8 because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   and anything Apple can do to push that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:23   farther and faster with adoption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:26   everywhere like everybody benefits from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:29   that young and that's great choosing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   open standard is a surprise but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:34   I'm very happy to see Apple choose an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36   industry-standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:37   with Qi charging like that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:40   great as opposed to like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:43   go into a Starbucks and there's the pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45   for Apple devices and there's the pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   for everything else I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   don't don't need that like anything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:51   can do to make charging easier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   everywhere that that's great so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:56   am I'm super glad that they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:59   the wireless charging in the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01   that's gonna sell way more just to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:02   encourage the spread of that faster so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:06   are you gonna be waiting you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:08   put in an order wouldn't mean for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:09   iPhone 8 say iPhone 10 yeah no of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:13   for the iPhone X we've had doubt I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:16   I would like it in my hands as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:19   but I am I am I'm mentally preparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:21   myself for the notion that this may take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   forever yeah you may just be going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:25   Apple stores and fondling them for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:28   while yeah exactly we're like do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   mind if I just use your phone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   store for whole for several hours can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:35   said I would like no you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:36   so you have to put it down like or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   I did when the iPad pro came out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   was I was trying to ask the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:42   employees like can i buy your store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:45   display of the pencil off of you and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   like no you can't we have to leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:48   pencils here so I'm very excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:52   it but I'm I'm preparing myself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:55   advance for it's like well it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   be a long time until the pre-order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:00   get ready for a longer time of actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:03   waiting for it to really ship the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05   whiting is the hottest pump yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:08   waiting is the hardest part there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   gonna be a lot of sad Christmas trees I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   think this year I'm not looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   to it you know if you think that my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   delivery was today one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:19   boy oh boy that's gonna be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21   else something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBnDXVIs/5841">TS</a>]