00:00:00 ◼ ► so someone trying to spell took us there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► derived from Spanish - quoi so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► not the way you are in wrong region of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► the world so the origin of that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► I love Sean P wall to the chat earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/14">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► people who truck equals trucks trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/15">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► you already established that yes like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► the stupid Jeep Cherokee with would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► stop with that lowered and big it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► ridiculous it's the worst thing ever did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► I tell the story on neutral I'm it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► it's December in Connecticut and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► those who are not aware Connecticut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/38">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► doesn't believe in salting the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/39">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► they believe in sanding the roads so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► entire state is just one big sandbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► there's sand everywhere and we're at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► tea you know so we have to make either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► left or right it's my friends srt8 Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► Cherokee and similarly to the Eclipse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► turbo that we were talking about earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► he looks over and says you holding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/57">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► I'm like what are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/58">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► we're about to do a 90 degree turn why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► would I need to hold on and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► next thing I know he stands on the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► and we make this 90-degree turn like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► were getting shot out of a cannon it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► the most amazing thing in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► oh no fast car fine but like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► designed to go fast but let's make it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► fast you do is the perverse thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► abomination it's just like let's take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► chihuahua but make it a pack animal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► suitcases down to the Grand Canyon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► that's the world's strongest Chihuahua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but like that is the wrong tool for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► job that is a terrible analogy I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► disappointed you are usually so good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► coming up with decent analogies in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► that I am terrible it was reversed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► because I'm taking this small thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/105">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► making it big but you're it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/106">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► making a hippo dance like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► you're trying to do and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► there's perfectly good cars that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► big tall tippy gross things made to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► off-road that are they want to go fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► the Jeep Cherokee doesn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► fast what are you doing you're the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► one they lower they take a car with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► good ground clearance something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► lower it like what are you even doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► like why you're just just running a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► no it's porque no los dos y can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► car that because you can't because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► things like 17th behind rolls over you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► can't no it doesn't I just explained to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► you what we did a 90 degree turn at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► 30 you can Lord as much as you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► center of gravity of that car is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► same as the center of gravity of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► somebody offered you a Porsche what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► it's not the came and the Cayenne the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► client and then the can is the even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► bigger one I would sell it and use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/156">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► money to probably not buy a better car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► but if if I was forced to if I was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► as I said you have to get a car I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► immediately sell it and I would use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► money to buy a million other cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► I'd rather have why why do you have hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► fun John why do you hate fun in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► suggest a monster-truck Ferrari I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► have both looks like a Ferrari but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► you can crush cars into this know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/175">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► Ferrari would still look cooler than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► that Jeep I hate you so much of yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► don't so we should get this show started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/187">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► and as per usual we have to start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► some follow-up and you know here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► thing you guys we've been doing the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► for what almost three and a half years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► now is that right because it was 2013 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► I'm not mistaken and and you know I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► both of you guys pretty well when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► started I knew Marco a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► but I knew both you guys pretty well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► had you told me in in 2013 yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► you're still gonna be doing this in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► I'd probably been like that's surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► but okay I'll believe it if you had told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► me in 2013 well you will have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► episodes to follow up about Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► hindquarters I'm not sure I would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► believe that a horse I don't know if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► has hindquarters exactly Marco's do she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/230">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► something different in the UK so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► really did grow up it you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► mixed environment if you notice I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► proud of you John touch is derived from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► that I think it's all just you know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► anyway so let's talk about Marcos took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► us why don't you tell me about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► cushion saddles are good or bad and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► don't know if I'm talking to Marco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Oishi me who says cushion saddles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► bad you can tell it's a bike person when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► they say saddles because yes call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► seats but but by kiss this marks sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► that's a good dogs mark anyway he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/275">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► when you sit on a large cushioned seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► pressure is placed over the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► crannies between you and thighs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► finds all the sensitive areas since your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► maximum pressure yes what do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► instead and this was repeated this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► repeated many many yes this is repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► by many people who sent in feedback why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► just focus on his representative what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► you want instead is contact at your sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► bones and nothing else did you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► have sit bones if you read the dozens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► emails that talk about sit bones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► were sent to our show you would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► yeah I was a term the first person was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► making up but then we got multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► apparently I mean I haven't done any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► more medical research on this topic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► multiple people seem to think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► real things yeah and so he says with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► some honesty soreness at the contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► areas ideally the sit bones is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► expected for the new cyclist by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► as many people wrote in to tell Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► that does not buy cast as if he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► know that rest assured he knows like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/332">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► likens it to the soreness in your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► when you first start using a standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/345">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► standing desk numbness is much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► ominous sign it means pressure is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► placed on the wrong spots cutting off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► blood supply oppressing unnerve so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► consensus seems to be padding aside what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/353">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► you want is most of your weight to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► the sit bones and not sort of distribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/359">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► because then no matter how you sit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► like squishing all your soft tissues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► together and cutting off blood flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► whereas apparently I'm guessing there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► a path from the sit bones to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► it's not like jacking a car put it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► way when you jack up a car you put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► the jack points you notice take the jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► underneath your car and start cranking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► it because bad things will happen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► anyway I debated even putting this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► but I feel like this is good information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► for other people who are getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► bikes are not into bikes and are warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► wandering around bike seat stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► consensus that it's all about you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► your sit bones and then making good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► contact and that not having pressure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► other places so there you go thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► for all the bike dust for your feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► about my James d'amour sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/404">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► they're like yeah well it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► they're uh they're prejudiced against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► speaking of jacking up cars it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► drove me nuts because anytime I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► to jack up I think was the Subaru I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/420">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► don't think it was a BMW the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► Jack point for the rear of the car was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► to Jack up by the rear differential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► which just seems like a terrible idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► me they were like dude just put it onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► the rear pumpkin and go to town he'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► just seems banana really a pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► part of the Karman if I personally they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► know what they're talking about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► they made the car they're gonna I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► one would think but it just struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► he's wrong anyway Moe Rubin Saul wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► to talk about Backblaze backup limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► and also wants to know how do folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► backup their applications folder because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► Backblaze exempts it and restructuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/452">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► or at least III don't think I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► everything up in my Applications folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► I would rather just recreate it by hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► because I don't think I want any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► stuff in there in fact one of the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► my favorite blog posts that I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► which is mostly for myself as kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► long-term memory but it's it's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► about here's all the things I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► install when creating or when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► reinstalling a new Mac or create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► starting a new Mac so I used that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► the MacBook adorable I used it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► assistant generally speaking because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► even though it's unlike the Windows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► I was using Windows and this is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► Markos era as well that you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► reinstall everything we had to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► destroy everything and start a new every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► six months to clear out all the cruft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► that just magically appears you know Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► OS is not like that but well I got a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► machine yeah it's time yeah I also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► ever backup my Applications folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► unless it's like for you know from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► automatically doing it from things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► time machine or a disk clone I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► think the main advantage to backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► your Applications folder is if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► literally just cloning your entire disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► and if you want fast recovery after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/523">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► definitely a role for that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► methods should be like a straight-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► copy of your entire disk because then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► you do have a disk failure you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► can restore that on to a new disk or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► new computer very quickly compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► downloading things off of an internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► backup an Internet backup is like a last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► resort because it is you know slow or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► goes over the internet you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► limited upstream so you might not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► to upload every single thing you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/553">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► have on your disk if you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► easily get it through other means so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► there is definitely a role for including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► applications folders in backups but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► totally see why it's not included in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► Backblaze as cloud backup by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► again we should clarity should disclose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► the back place is a frequent sponsor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► our show but I'm really I'm so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► saying this probably to defend them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► also you know you know not because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► are paying us sometimes but simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/578">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► because I think that it makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► exclude that for a cloud backup because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► the the purpose of cloud backup was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► folders are really easy to reconstruct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► with just time you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► permanently losing data there you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► just losing some time to redownload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► applications reinstall applications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► everything but yeah for a full disk copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► method like Time Machine or super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► Carbon Copy clone or things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► any kind of disk cloning method it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► sense to include that just for speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► recovery so we talked about this a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► time ago one of our earlier shows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► backups I think it was when we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► just started using back plays actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► before maybe they sponsored the show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► was this it was discussing like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► fact the back plays it excludes a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► stuff and they had like a hard-coded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► they have a thinking where you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► what you want exclude but they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► hard-coded exclude list and it excluded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► stuff that I wanted backed up so at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► time I hacked up whatever XML file they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► library folder not the home guard to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► but the one at the top level the disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► there was some XML file somewhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► you could mess with to make it back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► things that are in the quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► hard quote coded exclude this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/644">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► think that technique still works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► it's just as unsupported and dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► and do it your own risk but it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► thing that I do frequently that file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► Changez or whatever but I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► it's still working for me so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► you can make back plays back up stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► that it says it doesn't want to back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► if you're willing to live a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► dangerously but like Marcus that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► like you should just be though sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► these applications like it's annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► but none of your data is there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► didn't write those applications right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► and these days the chances are very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► that you have some reasonably convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► way to get those applications back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► company you bought it from has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/690">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► record that you bought it they can let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► you read download it even if it came on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► plastic disk hoping you're saving those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► plastic discs somewhere make you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► saving them I hoping you can contact the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► vendor that you bought it from and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► I lost my plastic discs can I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► software back but realistically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► most applications you're gonna want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► launch these days you have to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► download them some way and if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► download them there's probably some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► record on their servers about the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► that you own it so it may be annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► but like Margo said like if you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► yourself restoring from an internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► backup many many things have gone wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► and you're probably just so happy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► you have your precious data preserved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► any form that you're not you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► gonna be spending like days and days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► possibly weeks restoring anyway so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► worry about it but yeah but I but I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► visit some limited backups I'm like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Applications folder why not so CrashPlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► does have a Native Client for Macs maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► so we've gotten a lot of feedback saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► that the enterprise crash plan client is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► actually native and if you recall one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/746">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► freaking bananas about crash plan as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► consumer is that it's a a Java based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► cross-platform utter garbage app I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► saying Java based in utter garbage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► that joke will never stop being funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► I'm sorry so when he went zero negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► feedback on it I know I'm surprised so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► anyway so it's there's there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► lot of people coming coming to us saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► hey the enterprise client is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► native so it may not be so bad once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► do the migration except maybe not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► fill story wrote in to say to us that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► just upgraded to crash plan for small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► necessarily the same as enterprise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► he said it's the same crappy Java app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► only allowed to use version 4.9 which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► guess is still Java not the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► version which is six dot backs so tread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► I still haven't taken any action on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► procrastinating and sticking my head in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► the sand like an ostrich trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► pretend that it's not not an issue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► be wary that that things may not be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► roses and daffodils in the crash plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/814">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► possible to get that native version even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► if you're a small business customer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► I've been running the Java version for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► everything I said it's not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► application I just see the icon in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► menu bar it's probably using a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► memory and CPU than I want but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► pretty good controls about you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► it don't even start doing a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► unless the machine has been idle for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► certain period of time you can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► stop it if it's in the middle of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► something and honestly with a with a Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► Mac with lots of RAM and an SSD you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► don't notice it running even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► a bloated java application and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► it's probably doing ridiculous things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► and if you bring in fact if ax t monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► you may get sad about it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► you can always pause it and tell it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► to run now and then just do your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and then let it run when you're away or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► you don't have to see what it's doing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► your computer fair enough speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► CrashPlan the year is a 5 terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► migration limit which I was not aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► so this is a crash plain support article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► entitled migrate your crash plan for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► home account to crash-land for small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► business it's dated a little over a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► ago and it says that hey your backup do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► my backups continue automatically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► CrashPlan central CrashPlan central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► being their cloud offering does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► continue yes except very large backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► over 5 terabytes and just seconds ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► took a look to see how big my latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► backup was to crash playing central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► would anyone like to guess how big it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► was five point one five point three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► terabytes whoo yeah I'm just under five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► I'm like four point eight or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► conversion it already updated your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/909">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► client it updated my client to thee it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► still the Java client but the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► scheme is different I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► that's you know interesting so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► running for point nine power whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► but yeah just it just continued my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/917">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► jealous because apparently I'm good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► it's not that I can't use this new home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► or small business thing but apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► I'm gonna have to re-up load everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/930">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► all right you contact them and say very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► large backups over five terabytes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► I'm a little bit can't you just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/937">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► grandfather me in I'm close like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► know yeah something like that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► know I'm sad hi I need to take action on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► this I just I really don't want to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► just want it to go away and ignoring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► does not make it go away but I wish all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► right so arc AR Q versus Backblaze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► versus Claire crash plan on saving Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► metadata's so this is something I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► never paid attention to because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► probably should so as the person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► most likely to care about this John why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► don't you tell me about what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► here larger story like maybe two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► ago I think back when backways was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► starting to come to prominence and arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► was a lot newer than it is now and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► of Arc's big selling points was hey we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► back up all your mac metadata like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► little bit of it all the labels and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► dates in the comment field and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► every little weird but the finder flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and all the stuff we back it all up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► there's another program I'm not sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► it's associated with the arc if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► written by the same guy or if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► totally independent but called back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► bouncer that was trying to say if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► make a backup and restore the backup is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► it exactly like it was before down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► the bit down to every single piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► metadata right then you could care more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► or less about different things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► various times people who use like labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► like Mac Mac OS is labels where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► label your items in the finder with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► different colors and give the colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► names and stuff like that if you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► that extensively or tags you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► is the expansion of labels like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► use that stuff extensively and you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► backup but like that's how you organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► your files right and you do a backup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► you're restoring all that stuff is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► that is essentially data loss for you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► you care a lot about that that metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► back up bouncer is you know down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► bit thing I remember like super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► would fail on backup bouncer because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► didn't restore permissions on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► that didn't have the the rights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► restore like it changed the ownership or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► it's very picky about exactly what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► want to have but the general line from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► these companies about why their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► don't do well on backup bouncer is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► well we are not a bit for bit imaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► system we are data backup solution so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► you're not gonna get your discs back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► for bid exactly how it was you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► gonna get your data back CrashPlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► reportedly backs up metadata better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► back plays back plays drops almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► of it on the floor and just backs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► your data crash mine does better arc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► apparently 100% like it'll get every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► single little bit because that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► know that's it's the bespoke artisanal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► handcrafted backup program just for mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► users and a lot of people ask me how if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► you know that since I love all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► metadata and everything well one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► reason is I don't use labels and tags a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► implemented in its gross but B I fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► how they how that stuff will if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► stuff will survive so I wouldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► rely on it and have it get lost in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► kind of backup thing and like we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► before online backup is absolutely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► last resort so it being the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► fidelity backup I have SuperDuper being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► the highest fidelity where it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► much exactly the bit for a bit the discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► that I had Time Machine kind of being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► the middle and then back plays being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► lowest fidelity I'm okay with that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► there's this trade-off you're paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► five dollars a month to store some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► obscene amount of memory and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► you know I'm I understand again if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► if I find myself restoring from that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► many things have gone wrong that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► accept that you know every little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► metadata won't be there but because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► that I also don't use the metadata for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► any it's not an essential part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► workflow for organizing my files just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► because so many things not just backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► software but so many things are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► won't won't honor and copy that metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► like the Apple's own CP commands that MV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► commands duffle for the most part honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► it but lots of other tools like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► you install the third-party builds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► our sink and haven't compiled it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► the right options that might not bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► your extended after it's over and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► less you don't pass the right flags and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► stuff like I just can't rely on myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► to be careful to preserve that stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► I never put on anything I really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► about in Medway like that would just sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► because I wish it was pervasive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► supported everywhere but the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► actually incorrect expression but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► all know what I mean is so much lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► than what it is on the Mac so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► common set of metadata that you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► confident is going to survive everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► it's higher than it has ever been but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► supports so backup programs being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► that lower end I just accept is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► someday we'll get there someday we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► find it The Rainbow Connection that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I know I've heard it before I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► a Beatles lyric have you had close close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► Margo have you shown Adam The Muppet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► movie oh there we go no yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► little bit slow pace for kids because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► it's just like a 70s movie and movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► were slower back then but still got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► good songs you know what I loved Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► Bronson was in with like the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► Muppet Caper or something like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► was another Muppets movie I forget where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► what what the official title was but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► remember loving that as a kid and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► many years ago I watched it with Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► in you as an adult and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► this movie is not that the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► movie though is is very sweet and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► good songs and good pressure values and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► Kermit rides a bicycle so Marco can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1268">TS</a>]
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00:27:38 ◼ ► come and bring their hard drive so come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► up to your computer let them back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► then take the hard drive back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► house and never visit it again now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► have a permanent backup of their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► just in case they lose it like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► that's the model they're trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► people just you know using it as a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► station to drop off a couple terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► right that's not that's not sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► for five dollars a month flat fee yep so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► a lot of other people have written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► and said hey you know you I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► if you guys were aware but you all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► seen ologies and and Synology does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► a peer-to-peer backup system strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► etc why don't you do that and I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► the bad guy and say I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► share my space with you two jerks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► it's mine and I don't want to share and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► I I would probably if either of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► asked me be willing to offer up what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► could but last I heard John you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► intersting there's no room in the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► don't have a squared espera I'm certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► reference here yeah exactly so John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► doesn't have John doesn't have any X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► expand any excess space to offer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► thus if you don't have any excess space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► to offer you a backup Marco and I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► could set this up but I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► just I feel like this is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► thing where I should be paying a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► to handle this for me which is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► will probably end up doing and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► don't I don't feel comfortable asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► even you guys who I think would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► say you know all things being equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► could probably say yeah sure you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► back up to my Salah gee I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► comfortable talking to you guys about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► let alone you know anyone else I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► know so I don't really view this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► reasonable option for me but maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► just being a big baby yeah I don't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► not a reasonable option for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► and and I wouldn't say yes because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► don't want the responsibility of holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► your data like the whole point of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► cloud backup is I want it to be far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► from my house so if the house burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► someplace where it's somebody's job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► make sure my data is actually there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► lot of people do this where they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► hard drive and and back it up and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► in a relative's house that is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► than nothing I'm not gonna discourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► situation I've been in a many times what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► always happens is you forget to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► bringing the hard drive back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► because it's a pain and if it's Network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► base like I don't have to do that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► all magic over the network is the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► at the other end invested in making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► successful and that you know they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► the hard drive that's doing it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► filling up or doesn't have some bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► sectors and stuff like that's not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► responsible for that and if something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► goes wrong now you're mad at like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► friend or relative and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► like products on Kickstarter and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► to try to do with strangers like we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► all share our date it'll be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► distributed p2p cloud like so far that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► hasn't worked out it's a good it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► good idea if I think if space was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► cheaper and bandwidth is more would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► out but right now I hardly recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► sending your data to some company whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► job it is to make sure your data safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► doesn't mean the company's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► perfect either but hey if the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► screws things up you can feel fine about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► being mad at the company B you can sue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► the company maybe probably not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► of their User Agreement but anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► you can get as mad as you want about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► them they have deep pockets so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► want some sort of requests you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► it you would never want to be in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► relationship with a relative or a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► we're through some faults that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► argue about your your backup your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► or Unruh or not there or something goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► wrong or whatever and then people being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► bitter about the harddrive space you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► using if they want to reclaim that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► put like more the Ritz blu-rays on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► just it is not a relationship you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► to be in I do not recommend this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► though there's lots of good software for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► oh but like I said all that said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► that's your only option like if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► the only thing you can do whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► carrying hard drives back and forth in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► car or having your two Synology to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► to each other it is better than nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► but I really recommend making a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► do it you know I think I would almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► feel I'm not even almost I think I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► probably feel more comfortable saying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► one of you guys I am shipping a Synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► to your house a second Synology I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► want to run your Synology I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► to run your hardware in my house it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► hard enough running my own stuff my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► gonna spill peanut butter on it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► basements gonna flood the mice are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► poop in it it's just no I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► understand that yeah yeah like yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► also I don't want the responsibility you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► know like it's it's much less about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► know the about the the physical having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► the hardware or having the space or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► money required to run and empower it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► like it's more about I don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► depend on this box in my house can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► said you know in my garage that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► probably overheating itself slowly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► it I don't need like I don't need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► stress of that and that like and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► I would hate to be in the position where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► depending on me and this thing being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► perfectly operating in my house to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► that and and talk about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► that's fine for the three of us like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► most people don't have friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► giant Nast boxes in their garage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► this is not a generalizable solution it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► barely would even work for us and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► have giant Nash boxes with giant hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► drives and fast internet connections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► we're all friends like most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► have that kind of setup and even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► ones like us who do probably shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► do that if we have other options I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► it's safer to lend people money give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► people money you could just say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► just a gift just you never have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► me back here it is we're friends whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► the day that it's like it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► keeping the safe for me right like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► children safe than their data busy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► forget the stupid hard drivers there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► forget if it's still running you forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► a thing czar going bad the person on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► other end doesn't know that their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► is failing because you have some it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► just it's not you are not a data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► you don't have a climate control thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► with aisles and miles of Iraq computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► you know like just you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► you don't have redundant power backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► business of being a backup thing so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► just it's just gonna be sad all around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► because if something goes wrong then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► know what do you do you just sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► and try not to blame each other but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► you do feel bad about it like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► like it's a much better feeling for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► to back up stuff the back plays and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► you're all your data goes corrupt them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► back plays at the last moment like then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► you just be righteously mad at back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► plays being mad at corporation is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Americans are best at we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► don't want every relationships just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► know I'm never flying Delta again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► you can do that all you want fine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► don't want to sacrifice your personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► relationships but she'll keep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► vibrant and extend your life according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► to all the studies yeah it's funny bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► that up because the unfortunately named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► pahis food in the chat said backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► each other storage is like lending money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► don't do it with your friends do it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► the business and I agree with that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► I said I think lending money is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► because it is a it's a yeah if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► better than backing up because lending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► money you can lend it and say oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► pretending this is loan but in my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► of hearts I'm realizing this is a gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► and just say I never expect to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► money back and I'll be fine with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► because it's a nice thing to do there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► no ongoing relationship where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► like maintaining that money for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► person or anything be more like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► gave you instead of putting their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► into savings they gave it the money's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► free to you to invest and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► the kind of responsibility you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► getting for data it's like and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► come back and say house hasn't all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► how's that investment going like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► yeah it's it's going it's going okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► then they get mad at you why did you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► a better job of investing my money it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► like just why didn't you not make me do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► this yeah and I need to be clear I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► with you that lending money to a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► is maybe not the best thing in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► but it is way better than being a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► strategy so to hopefully come to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► of this was only a couple more things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► about backups Jon tell me about Synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► apparently a thing a Synology thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► think it's only in germany - so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► really relevant dust but Synology has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► their own everyone's to riff on s-3b - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► now you got see - we're running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► letters and number columns here your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► Synology will do a back up of itself - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► Synology zone cloud storage they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► reselling s3 I have no idea but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► paper on no that's that's a thing we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► put the link in the show notes if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► have a Synology you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► especially if you live in your Frankfurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► Germany or wherever the hell this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► check it out yeah that it's expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► though it's a are we selling s3 it's 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► euros per terabyte per year so that's 83 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► dollars ish according to duck taco per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► terabyte and if I have five that's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► hundred and fifteen dollars a year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► me that is not inexpensive yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► back lays b2 is still probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► cheapest option I know of for like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► actual paper gig but otherwise you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► unlimited in usage as long as you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► for it kind of kind of thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► don't I don't know of anything cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► than b2 yet but I'm happy to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► additionally friend of the show Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► Morin has written a post for Mac world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► which is apparently still a thing saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► why the Mac needs iCloud backup so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► not I guess right I mean iCloud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► justifiable use is is backing up all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► your data that you cannot possibly lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► why wouldn't that work it's backing up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► lot of data a lot of iOS devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► backed up I got only Apple knows for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► sure how many of them I mean you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► some of that of iCloud backup stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► forget to sum it's some obscenely small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► amount that you get five gigs I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► but anyway and you could pay for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► but the mattress doesn't have that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► this is no those cases where the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► doesn't have a feature that iOS had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► years and years and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► asked about like when is when is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► gonna do a lot back for the Mac it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► inevitable if they eventually get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► to it because they already do iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► backups is not a new business they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► do the same model of giving you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► useless amount of storage for free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► then you pay for more and I bet people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► will use it because why shouldn't Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► be in the cloud backup business for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► this devices basically in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► packing business for all of his devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► the Mac these days so I hope Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► do that because I mean first of all what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► choice do we have for cloud backups on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► the phone it's not like we can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► Backblaze or CrashPlan on our phone we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► all do iCloud backups even if we also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► iTunes backups and for the most part it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► seems to sort of work and it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► better than nothing so Apple should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► that eventually it also just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► know the you can you can make jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► about like how bad Apple services have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► been so far in the past and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► that but I think I fled back up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► pretty solid like and most of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► recent services are pretty solid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► know some of their intelligence based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► things like Siri and and conserve ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► could use some work but like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► stuff that's about just like storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► your data responsibly and syncing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► everything that stuff has been pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► solid for a while now so I am totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► you know fine with the idea at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► offering this and it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► things it's similar to like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► launched Time Machine the there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► limitations or requirements Time Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► had but like the one thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► always say in defensive moves like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► is well it's better than people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► nothing at all like it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► nothing right and and so with iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► devices backing up to iCloud like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► know that's another situation where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► it's better than not having even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► five gigs they give you is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► it'd be nice to have more by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► because it would be nice to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► reasonable amount for all iPhones sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► that just came with the price of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► iPhone I think that would be a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► thing for Apple to do I'm not holding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► breath on that but but I wish they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► do things like that but because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► having having any backup is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► having no backup and this would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► kind of thing we're like yeah not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► Mac owner would or should use an iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► backup service if it were if it were off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► on the Mac but it would be a really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► fast way to get lots of Mac users to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► have a backup who otherwise would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► had nothing at all and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► sponsored this week by audible with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2381">TS</a>]
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00:39:44 ◼ ► original audio shows news comedy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► audible.com slash ATP if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► you can listen to audiobooks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► virtually every genre anytime anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► you can play all Duvall's audiobooks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► phones tablets computers all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► devices that you have in your life these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► audiobooks are great for flights or long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► road trips or even your daily commute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► because you might think you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► time to read books but you'd be amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► how many books you can listen to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► audiobooks each year even if you only go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► to and from work every day listen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► then because the time really adds up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► audiobooks really bring books to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► many of them are read by the authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► themselves which really adds an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► dimension to the text and you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► risks with audible and you can try new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► authors and genres without regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► because audible offers a great listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► guarantee if you start an audiobook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2437">TS</a>]
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00:41:13 ◼ ► right so that's the end of the follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► and we should move on to SK TP no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► what do you know one more item quickie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► for you oh no there's nothing else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► believe there is so case no it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► heard that you might have had a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► flaw on your new MacBook adorable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► everyone loves so much that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► isn't enough constant flaws for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► no no that's fake news oh okay make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► yeah so my beloved MacBook adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► apparently got an infinitesimally small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► piece of dust under the numeral four key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► and because of that it was mushy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► days until I finally had the time to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► to Target and buy myself compressed air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► which is something I haven't bought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► probably five maybe ten years and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► take the compressed air to my macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► and blow out the infinitesimally small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► piece of dust and then subsequent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► that it took me a few hours to realize I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► had not really removed the dust but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► simply relocated it to under the caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► lock secure perhaps lock key which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► don't generally use but I happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► use a few hours later and was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► well that's mushy and gross I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► know where that dust went and then I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► to take the compressed air again to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► caps lock key in order to blow it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► again and now I think my keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► fully functioning once more but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► very frustrating because the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► between the regularly functioning key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► keys and a key that has just a iota of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► dust under it is night and day it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► disgusting to use a key that has dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► under it because it feels mushy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► gross and terrible so I still love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► MacBook adorable I still do recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► especially as like an accessory Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► the the tolerance for dust and debris on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► this thing is approaching zero which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► opposite of that panasonic toughbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► the yellow laptop the laptop meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► work in all sorts of environments maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► you should get one of those like glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► boxes with the little holes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► gloves and adorable inside the box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► when you want to use it just put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► I hear you so yeah so that was sad times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► I'm about to get one of these at work by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► MacBook Pro at work I'll let you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► and when Mikey I think Mikey bro will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► fine because I plan to never touch it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► plan to keep the thing closed and use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► to hook up to a monitor and just use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► as like a three times more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► version of my Mac Pro that I have at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► work now hooked up to the very same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► monitor mouse and keyboard but we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► you say that but as Marco and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► just recounting an episode or two ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► clamshell mode is the word I'll leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► cracks but the point is I'm gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► gonna not use that keyboard if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► help it yeah the thing is like and I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► obviously always tempted to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► another rant about how this keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► awful to be on all the computers but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► makes some sense for this awful keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► computer but the one you have Casey not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► the one John's getting and the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► whatever we're calling it is super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► small and thin and all other costs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► is what that computer is for so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► honestly can't complain that much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► they put this incredibly controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► unreliable keyboard in that mom you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► complain about the reliability like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► reliability no matter what you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► should be the one thing at least the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► of the keyboard is when you press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► key it makes a letter on your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► right so they can't we shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► accepting this big of a downgrade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► expected reliability because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► keyboard goes bad eventually I've broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► a bunch of the the flat aluminum ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► but they last for years before something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► goes wrong and I mean it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► whatever the whatever the thing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► confirmation bias but you know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► where you're hyper aware of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► telling you tales of woe about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► keyboards foot boy we've heard a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► them from people who have this keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► and it just seems like a big change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► reliability and keyboard reliability I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► you know all that tough keyboards are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► gonna you know go crappy eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► probably but within the first several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► months to have a key stopped working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► the point where it affects it sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► oh it feels weird when I type like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► the point where it doesn't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► letter on the screen that's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► acceptable even for the slim one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► true yeah because it's like again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► like it's this is a problem that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► didn't used to have and and or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► know if you if you had a laptop that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► a key break or die on it it was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► after like five years or after you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► abused it or dropped a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► crap in it and so and so that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► thing that's probably unavoidable but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► have laptops where now this keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► on the entire line of laptops and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► entire line of laptops has significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► reliability problems with the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► interface method that is a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► that is a massive design flaw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► shouldn't have shipped the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► let alone the second and in the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► the 12-inch third times so I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► you know we there was remember that read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► a thread that was a couple months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► manufacturing inside that was spilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► details about who knows what about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► one of the things that's said in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► was that there's gonna be a new key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► switch mechanism for the 2018 MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► Pro revision that allegedly is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► be similar in in thickness and travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► but it's gonna it's gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► magnetic or something there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► some kind of significant key switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► changed I hope that is you know I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► something like that is going to happen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► hope Apple sees the way we do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► know we can't convince them to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► keyboard thicker to make it feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► so I'll take what we can get let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► make this if we're gonna have this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► super thin keyboard the sacrifices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► key travel for Johnny is thin world at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► least make it work reliably like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► is no way in 2017 and 2018 we should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► have unreliable laptop keyboards on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► brand-new $2,000 and up laptops that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► completely unacceptable and ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► in this day and age how to clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► keyboard of your MacBook or MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► if your MacBook 2015 and later or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► MacBook Pro 2016 and later has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► unresponsive key or a key that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► different than the other keys when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► press it follow these steps to clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► keyboard with compressed air number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► hold your Mac notebook at a 75 degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► angle so it's not quite vertical that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► 75 kids not 80 we come at this exact 700 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► on this show you're there preposterous I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► cannot believe that this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► number 2 use compressed air to spray the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► keyboard or just the affected keys in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► left-to-right motion number 3 rotate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► your Mac notebooks so it's your right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► side and it's a so it's right side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► that's that's not even a full sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► rook rotate your Mac keyboard so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► oh - its right side I can't read my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► apologies - its right side again from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► left right number 4 repeat the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► this time with your Mac notebook rotated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► to its left side this is asinine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► this is the thing now to be fair my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► keyboard still worked it just felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► garbage but or one key felt like garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► and by and large I actually do still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► very much like this keyboard I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► Marco you don't and that's fine but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► general when it can't when it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► I really like this keyboard similarly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► when my car's valvetrain hasn't exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► it's a very nice car but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► frustrating it's very frustrating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► I have I have had this computer for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► wouldn't change months and I'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► having to take a restorative action to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► get the keyboard to work again right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► it's like and again like I've resigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► myself to this new thin thin key switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► thing that feels to me is crappy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► every time I saw that and like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► constantly reducing my expectations fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► I'll carry a dongle bag fine I'll pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► little bit more fine I'll have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► touch bar on the big ones that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► don't like at least make it reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► like just make it work reliably if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► you're gonna make me swallow all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► these other jagged bitter pills at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► make something reliable that's all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► I'm not asking for much here I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► reduced my expectations and given up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► every other battle on these laptops just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► a lot of smaller set of jagged little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► pill though thank you very much I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► I'm just saying like that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► that's a marcos brain farting out some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► references without his knowledge no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► honestly not only is that a great album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► but I was I was arguing with TIFF about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► this a few days ago I would say that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► possibly one of the most influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► albums of the 90s these kids who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► oh you gotta wait 20 years before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► can be nostalgic like we are about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► 80s you know there are times that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► right not 10 more years but actually 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► it's it's not a linear scale so you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► what are you like 6 or 7 years older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► than we are and usually that that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► like 6 or 7 minutes but then there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► times that it feels like six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► decades and this is one of those times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► it's when you listen to Margo and TIFF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► talk about I knew it for that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► talk to talk with nostalgia about 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► music and just it's just like what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► was it was more than 20 years ago for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► most of it I know I know it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► seems weird but I came out in like 95 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► some like that I mean maybe I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► people from the 70s feel the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► were people in this algebra he's music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► because you know 70 was give me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Canady was all this crap but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► understand how it works just Alanis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► Morisette influential album 95 all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► all right that should be a top four top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► four albums in the 90s you know I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► her when she was on you can't do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► television you didn't know her then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► that was a great show don't even start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► with me reruns oh you are such a turd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► let's just move on all right ask ATP we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► slime John somehow oh I would love to oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► my god we should kick start slimming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► John and get the money to Houston or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► something like that my word somebody get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► on that anyway Joe Lyon writes in to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► ATP this is a little bit long so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► I remember seeing this but it must be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► email or something what is the long game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► in photo storage not not just which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► cloud service do I use for the next five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► but how will photos be managed stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► and handed down between generations we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► take more pictures than ever but then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► lock them all into personal devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► accounts that in print very few of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► actually at more danger than previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► ironically hundreds of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► pictures from a family can be lost when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► someone dies and doesn't leave behind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► belly-up in local backups weren't made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► or photos or hard disks crash or data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► coincidentally I was thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► recently because I have I have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► suddenly pass away what would happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► the things that I care about like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► pictures and because of that that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► yet another reason why why I recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► the 1password family plan because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► know Aaron has my my password via one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► she has my password for like google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► photos for example but but you know Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► Lyons point is exactly right like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► used to be that you would print all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► these pictures and create albums and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► pictures than you would have in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► digital age but at least there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► something you can physically give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► somebody else what is the future bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► and and I'll start with the the semi pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► photographer Marco what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► about this I'm barely even that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► but it's it's a bigger question of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► know lots of things regarding your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► know your data integrity and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► else you know it's it's it goes way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► beyond just photos but like lots of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► other data as well but I mean largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► once once I'm gone I won't care I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► be able to care it's largely not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► problem with my particulars but no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► think it realized the Nile is God - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► photo backup like you know I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► relies on your family and people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► come after you it relies on them caring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► just like preservation of anything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► previous generations like if they care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► you know it basically you know we as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► people who have who have this data now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► think we do have some responsibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► have some kind of recovery you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► our heirs have will have access to after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► we're gone so you know things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► making sure like are that their family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► has access to passwords and data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► stuff like that but beyond that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► it's up to the next generations to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► and it always has been like every family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► you know like we you know you only know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► what your relatives have been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► pass on to you you only have what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► have carried with them and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► still have in their possessions from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► previous generations and the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► is going to apply to this like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► ways it is easier than ever to keep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► stuff and especially as time goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► like my entire photo collection from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► first year I was taking photos with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► digital camera which is like 2004 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► think you know mm really but my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► photo collection from that year is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► a few hundred Meg's like it's at most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► like it's nothing compared to it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and and as time goes on every year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► goes by hard drives get bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► cameras get better and photos get bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► and so it seems like everything's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► really big buddy like what was taken in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► the past with low resolution cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► lower resolution sensors like less data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► being captured with less video more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► stills like I don't know I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► it's not that hard if you care and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► your heirs and relatives care it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► that hard to keep stuff and to pass it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► down it's just an issue of will will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► people who inherit your things actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► care to keep them and that's always my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► problem and photos don't get bigger all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► the time like you said that photos get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► bigger every year in cameras get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► already very close to limits of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► visual acuity on the highest-end cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► and we're just waiting for it to trickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► down once your phone is taking 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► megapixel images do you think in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► megapixel images they will not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► there what are we gonna do blow it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► a post to the size of a football stadium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► like there we are close to the limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► and if storage continues to increase at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► any rate while the size of photos stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► more or less the same maybe even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► smaller if we have better compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► tech this is the storage of photos is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► essentially as storage size increases so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► just in the same way that's easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► marker to take his hundred Meg's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► photos from 2000 in 50 years it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► much easier to take our quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► massive photo libraries and put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► in the storage of the day and 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► they will not be taking 10,000 megapixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► photos there probably be like 50 to 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► megapixel photos if even that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► not even that it's not it's gonna stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► because you can't there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► point in more pixels like again you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► not blowing it up to a poster that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► covers your entire house so that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► that part of the problem will take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► of itself I have some faith in that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► of like music did like the music files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► like you know even if they go to flak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► that's it like limits of human acuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► bit depth bitrate all things we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► about take the biggest audio file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► could have is there a benefit to making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► something a hundred times bigger no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► there isn't because we can't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► anything better than that that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► the audio will never get bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► than that you know and multi-channel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► so and so forth so I'm optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► that and it's the thing to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► about trends like this where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► oh oh or just it's never you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► gonna continue on and on some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► lines on the graph level off and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► a saving grace yeah the thing I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► add though this this is just a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► problem like anything aside from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► social things like I'll pass it on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► having you know sharing your passwords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► that you should definitely do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► like any other backup problem it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► about diversity right so print some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► pictures first of all because that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► diversified backup strategy physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► deteriorate that you can lose them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► you know they take up space so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► important diversification you reach out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► you print some books from from Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► Photos app go to Shutterfly or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► print some pictures from one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► sponsors of this episode right that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► diversification that's also as marker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► will surely say I may add read not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► diversification of backup but it'll let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► you look at your pictures like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► we all have so many pictures but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► they're in a digital thing like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► often do you even look at them I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► Uncharted game than I do looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► pictures on my actual phone on your wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► lets you enjoy them for the time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► diversification of backup means also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► perhaps winnowing your collection down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► to some really good pictures and sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► them with the relative this is the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► where you're not doing it for a backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► but you just want to give other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► your photos and I think we're in a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► better situation than we were in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► past because it's harder I think for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► shoebox full of photos or photo albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► relative who's died to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► family because people don't want here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► like 50 pounds of photo albums or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► just a shoebox like people don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► that junk like especially when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► trying to clear out all the belongings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► and everything like that you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► to save the few precious things like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► or two wedding photos then being digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► and that's having a fighting chance at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► least of losslessly carrying them across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► generations is merely a matter of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► that process easy enough to do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► think as we all die and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► grew up in the sort of the cusp of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► digital age died off the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► figuring out how to get our crap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► continue on will be worked out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► generation or two and so I have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► confidence that it's sort of permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► growing archive of things associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► with the family will be passed on from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► generation to generation again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► storage sizes will keep going up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► forever but they'll keep going up well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► long after the the size of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► we're doing go up and I by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► also think there's a limit on number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► photos we'll take to it because I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► guess you just wish to to constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► recorded video but there's some social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► parts that that I think might won't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► it happen but we take so many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► pictures now than we used to especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► we have kids but in 300 years we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► gonna be taking a thousand times more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► photos like you just can't do that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► we're taking a photo where we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► second for our entire lives 24 hours day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► that's just video and I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► on record every second so I am much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► optimistic than Joe lying about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► I would recommend people think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► password share anything like Casey said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I your photo backups and maybe get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► couple of them and print them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► hanging on your wall so you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► Brad Ringel asks it's been discussed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► bit but can you give a brief rundown of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► how you decided on a camera to buy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► suggestions for a beginner I will start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► and say that what I had done was look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► around at my friends and try to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► out what was something that felt at kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► of entry-level and approachable with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► also was was reasonably easy to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► physically because it wasn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► the size of a DSLR and so I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► in the show notes to a couple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► two or three year old review now of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► that camera it's the one I still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► this is a micro 4/3 camera and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► interchangeable lenses and so I spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► fair bit of money on well what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► was a fair bit of money on both the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and one really nice prime lens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► prime lens lasted me for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► couple of years I had the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► then about a year ago I added a zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► lens I chose this because Sean Blanc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► Blanc Blanc I forget how you pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► this longer name Thank You Sean Blanc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► head recommended it very very strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► and I love this camera by no means is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► the best camera in the entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► but I love it and and it is done right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► by me and helped me get better as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► photographer because it allow and not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► say that's unique to this camera by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► stretch but but this one is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► because it allows interchangeable lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► and it allows me to do things like shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► an aperture priority which is to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► can concentrate on getting one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► right and the rest of it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► automatically happen again I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► saying that's unique to this camera but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► that's kind of how I got started and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/3702">TS</a>]
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01:15:02 ◼ ► you're spending less than probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► thousand dollars you're probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► getting a quality jump that that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► sense in the role of today's smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► especially if you are listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► show you're probably an iPhone user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► you're probably a user of fairly recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► iPhone and that's yeah that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► hard to beat with anything below a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► thousand dollars in in in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► situations most of the recommendations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► that I give are in the one to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► thousand dollar range and that's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► of money and you have to you have to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► yourself like is that really worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► if for a lot of people it isn't or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► you know you might go through all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► and realize you know actually I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► take most my pictures on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► because my phone's always with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► the cameras keep getting better and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► offer you know more interesting features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► in a lot of cases like like live photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► and you know automatic HDR and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► that like other cameras can do sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► or it can do some of these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► they're clunky or don't work as well or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► harder to use or you know so it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► camera a standalone camera these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► has to be way better than your phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► make it worth buying and to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► you'll actually use it on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► basis so if you're not willing or able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► to spend over a thousand dollars I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► say easily on some on a camera and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► couple of lenses for it I would say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► probably just get the best phone you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► and use its camera that oh please rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► have any of you used or played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► notoriety card in your day-to-day life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► to get something you wanted and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► start with John I put this question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► here because I want to re-emphasize to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► people exactly how little notoriety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► seems like like there is no car to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► even at WWC where we are that is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► maximum of our fame and notoriety is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► like we're there with the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► percentage chance that people know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► we are as like at WWDC even there I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► never had a way to parlay my notoriety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► into pretty much anything except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► perhaps giving me the confidence to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► up and talk to somebody who I might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► otherwise even though I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► expectation they're gonna know who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► that's the I guess as my answer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► like I have never played the notoriety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► card because there's no card to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► played but my impression of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► notoriety in very specific circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► were a specific kind of nerd gathers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► a week it has given me the confidence to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► overcome what would normally be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► equation I'd never talked into the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► introduce myself most people you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► you don't have my personnel you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► with confidence but but I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► want to emphasize listeners we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► no no right no one knows who we are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► one knows what a podcast is well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► now it's zero they do podcast what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► that you know serial I think I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► of that anyway that's that's my answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► mark oh I don't think I have used it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► a useful way because of you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► John said it's like you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► actually would take that risk and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► hey do you know who I am like chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► are the answer you're gonna get back is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► nope that's not a good risk take it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► know even if you can get over the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► that the best-case scenario they do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► who you are and you've just been a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► jerk that's that is yeah that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► my style that's not how I interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► the world even if I knew I could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► away with it I would still not try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► it because that's just I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► do that but John is correct in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► there is almost nowhere where we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► be where we can pull a card like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► and have it actually work like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► maybe at our own live show like like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► the room seconds after we've walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► maybe but anywhere else that would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► work at all and yeah that's that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► we don't have any degree of actual fame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► in any context where this would even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► a possibility let alone the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► think none of the three of us have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► personality type to actually try to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► a car like that well there was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► that one time where I wished that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► worked where I forgot my wallet and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► couldn't pick up my hardware and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► to drive all the way back home and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► not any special treatments because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► didn't want to drive all the way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► home because I I felt dumb for leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► my wallet you know at home I got I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► couldn't pick up my thing at the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► store I didn't actually do it I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► jokingly offer well just google my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► and my picture will come up and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► half joking but I was kind of it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► of half serious like you need to know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► type my name into a Google search box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► but just I had to drive all the way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► home and that's again not that's just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► trying to save myself commuting time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► I don't feel quite as dumb for leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► home without my wife but that is does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► the one time and and notes like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► wasn't I didn't say why they should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► I might come up of course that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► never do that and they didn't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► didn't care and I had to get my friggin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► wallet I think it is really really gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► to try to be like oh don't you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► I am so let me tell you about the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► times that I did it the first time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► the first boys I forget I guess was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► don't remember what year it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► maybe was 2016 I guess that I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► emailing a few people at Apple and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► like hey I don't have a WWDC ticket huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► maybe I could do something about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► didn't work the second time was when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► was trying to get my current job and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► don't know if it's really being like Do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► You Know Who I am but I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► mentioned that I had a popular Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► podcast on my resume and the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► did that was because I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► switch careers from being a Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► developer to being an apple developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► and I was trying to figure out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► justifiable reason to hear me at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► point and to and to take a risk on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► the final time is one that you two did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► not know about and I wasn't planning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► telling you about and I'm only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► talk about it very very lightly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► I'm trying to think of how to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► this without giving it away it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► offered to me because of this show so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► was not really I do you know who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► but it was offered to me because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► show and because of a friend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► listens to the show would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► get access to a to a car from the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► fleet from a manufacturer that that none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► of us would normally have access to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► which I said yes absolutely that car was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► supposed to arrive the week after WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► and by happenstance something happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► and it didn't work out then that car was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► supposed to arrive a few weeks later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► when it was traveling from the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► pool in DC down to me it caught a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► in the windshield and they had to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► around I haven't heard much since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► and it's been a month or two so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► guessing that this didn't work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► in a few months like it by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/4933">TS</a>]
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01:29:24 ◼ ► of the filesystem that still could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► improved you know ideally but what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► there seems to be pretty solid you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► the fact they deployed it to every iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► device and that's been running now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► months and it's been totally fine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► pretty great so you know we know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► doing this carefully we know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► like Craig federighi mentioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► talk show live it you see this year how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► light they would a couple of versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► before that when they deployed to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► they were they would do like test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► migrations and roll them back just at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► just and then like report back if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► anything failed to Apple so they knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► what was happening there there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► some reports somebody pointed out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► the latest Mac OS 10 update seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► take a very long time to apply and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► there was a theory that you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► it was doing the same thing maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► doing those tests might those test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► migrations that then get rolled back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► before it completed you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► seems like Apple knows how to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► there it's already been done on a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► very large scale and this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► relatively speaking a drop in the bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► again there are more edge cases on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► Mac more different configurations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► can be used more ways people use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► file system or depend on things work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► a certain way but I think they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► a pretty good job of it and I trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► to do this correctly and carefully so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► don't think this is bad at all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► that was pretty quick I have to concede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► all right so Marco tell me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► lack of home button on the iPhone Pro / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► 8 / whatever it's called because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► seems to have been some news from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► Bloomberg that there will be no physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► new iphone well we already knew there be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► no physical home button but this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► this was more about like this is today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► remember that came out that basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► claiming a certain way that the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► based home button will work that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► different than we've heard or assumed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► the past so what we've assumed up till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► now are heard up until now as rumors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► basically that there would be an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► basically where the home button is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► but there would be like an area on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► phone that you would like push firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► there and it would go home and how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► would be represented on the screen was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► up for debate there was some speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► from like the home pod former that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► there's some kind of like home indicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► that could show or hide different times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► maybe whether it's like a little circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► down there or a dot or who knows the oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► this is this whole area we know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► from the home pod leak and from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► rumor sites we know some things pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► firmly about like the physical design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► the next iPhone but the whole area that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► I think is most interesting to me is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► the software will actually deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► this physical design and that is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► that is still mostly unknown to us you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► know of all the leaks including the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► pod firmware not to mention all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► rumors there's not you would think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► first like there's not much surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► left for the event but actually to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► there's tons of surprise left because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► information and we still haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► how the software will actually deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► this bizarre all screen phone with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► knots on the top that to me is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► interesting part and I think most of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► going to remain a surprise anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► Bloomberg's trying to ruin that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► bit by supplying by clamping that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► home button is going to work a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► different way that basically instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► having like an area that you push at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► bottom that you're gonna have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► swipe up kind of gesture not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► different from what the iPad does and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► was living with the doc I like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► swipe up gesture to go home instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► pushing that area at the bottom and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► therefore the entire screen basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► will be usable as regular application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► area not just having that like hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► the bottom for a home button and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► help maybe like a like a toolbar area to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► out of it and if this is true obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► this has a lot this raises a lot a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► of questions about implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► details if this is the direction they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► I'm certainly that's going to be a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► change so I'm certainly you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► little wary of it but it would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► avoid a lot of issues because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► think about if they do the the method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► that we assumed before this which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► they have like a home area that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► push there it works like a home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► which i think is roughly what samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► does with their edge to edge thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► like I use one in the store and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► kind of push down there and it seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► work so I think that's basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► Samsung doesn't and that that works fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► as far as I could tell when I use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► two seconds in a Best Buy but if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► that it does raise a lot of questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► about things like well what what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► you know do you do you have tab bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► still if so like does the tab bar just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► go completely on top of that so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► that whole bottom half of the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► just a home button and maybe something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► on the lesson right of it that maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► can't control or you don't watch full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► control or you can only put like maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► navigation I'm down there or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► like that like is it like that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► if that's the case then that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► bottom area is fairly significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► wasted like it's not totally wasted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► like it's it raises the question of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► even make it a screen if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► gonna have much use for that for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► area if they let applications put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► content down there but also have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► big home button hole in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► that bottom row then you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► what happens with things like to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► bars where you typically have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► know this row of four or five buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► across the bottom of the screen do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► go with like a two on the left - on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► right nothing in the middle kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► arrangement or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► just have a big hold and middle of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► tab bar we goes in there you can that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► one option it's not a great option but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► you know you can do that the the claimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► method by this Bloomberg article is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► it's going to be swipe based and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► basically that the entire screen will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► usable for apps or the vast majority the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► screen will use if I ask most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► time and there won't be this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► hole in the middle of the bottom that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► that some kind of swipe up from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► bottom will be used instead to go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► if so I'm interested to see that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► that sounds like it would solve some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► introduce new problems but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► we know enough as like actual fact just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► obviously this is what they're doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► we don't know that yet but we also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► like we don't have enough information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► here to really know for sure like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► they're going to do I would also say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► that Bloomberg and Germans record on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► things like this in recent times has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► been pretty spotty so I would not take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► this as fact and would definitely take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► this as a given the thing he does lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► but I don't understand because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► doesn't seem like he needs to do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► writes about things in the present tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► different ways of the home button can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► works like Apple perhaps did experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► with different ways of the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► Network but at this point with the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► different ways different fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► ways to use that bottom half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► screen pretty sure they know yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► they picked one by now or even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► implementations they're gonna pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► experimental stage anymore like a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► is sale anyway on this particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► about the home button this gives a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► little bit more of the answer of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► the heck do we get with edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► screen because if they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► dedicate any of the bottom of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► to essentially to you I but the app can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► use at all hey I got now I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► more tweets right whatever like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► it's a benefit you can see it being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► benefit it makes that part of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► like you're actually using it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► like a virtual representation of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► chin on our phones today but but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► that said if it is swipe based swiping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► on on phones for me and I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► forever just like in general to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► anything like that is a you have to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► like you have to find the right balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► between how hard you press your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► on the screen and how hard you swipe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► how you hold the phone because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► if you press too hard you get too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► like slide your finger and do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► gesture if you press too lightly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► just graze it maybe you won't activate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► especially if like your fingers are cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► or whatever right so there's a balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► like you have to it is a it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► more finesse to do any kind of swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► gesture than it does to do a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► press virtual or otherwise because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► a button press you find the place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► you need to apply the pressure and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► just bear down and for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► unless you go all the way through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► activate fourth touch but even so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► that's not that bad it is easier to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► of fumble in your pocket and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► obviously the physical buttons just jam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► the sleep/wake button or Jam your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► on on the the home button moving or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► otherwise or if it was the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► screen with the virtual thing Jam your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► finger somewhere on the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► screen even if you can't feel it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► now it's just a screen image but a swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► requires more finesse and for a move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► that you do so frequently pick up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► phone put my finger on touch ID unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► it open it up pick it up activate it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► whatever or just hit the home button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► switch between apps or double tap to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► the the switcher I'm a little bit wary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► of my ability my dexterity too for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► maneuver that common maneuver to feel as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► comfortable as it does to me to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► blindly ham-fisted lee press somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► on the phone wherever that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► but I think my wariness will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► even if it is slightly worse I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► will be made up for by the additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► screen real estate the screen real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► estate you enjoy all the time and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► additional dexterity required to pull up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► the swipe things a it's probably only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► problem for old people like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► know for younger people who are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► plastic and you're just getting used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► that was used to it right but be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► often as you may do that as often as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► may activate the home button you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► way more time staring your front screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► and scrolling through a list of stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► I think in the end it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► trade-off but I am a little bit wary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► more swipe gestures I just think of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► the swipe gestures I do on my phone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► and how occasionally I'm not successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► at them and that's not a pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► experience whereas I'm pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► always successful at pressing the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► yeah that's there there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► potential for conflicts with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► gesture like any gesture that involves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► big swipe from any of the sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► or in any large direction on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► conflict risk with that with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► things within apps or even other system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► gestures you know obviously one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► big questions is what do you do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► control center is it the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► where you pull up a little bit and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► get control center and you pull up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► and you go home or vice versa with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► weird the same thing haven't I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► eleven with the most you pull up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► little bit he brings the doc but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► keep pulling it's the other thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► even just on iOS ten I found myself I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► really good at this gesture but I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► myself looking at it consciously today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► and realizing how how how good how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► I am at making this fine distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► after lots of practice if you pull down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► from the top of your phone like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► if I think notifications my thumb pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► down from the top of my phone I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► notifications if I think launch an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► application that I just launched my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► thumb pulls down from the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► phone and it shows recent applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► because I'm on springboard there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► different gestures you have to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► above the edge of the screen for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► the notifications and below the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► the screen and beyond springboard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► the apps but I just did them without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► thinking so I guess that's the best-case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► scenario that this is a bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► phone gesture but it's pretty picky like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► try to explain to somebody the nuances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► of swiping from off the edge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► screen versus just swiping sideways I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► seen many people do the wrong version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► that to bad effect and not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► it's learn about but again it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► subtle and it requires much more finesse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► than press this big circular button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► bring back the place where you see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► your apps yeah I'm curious to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► comparisons to webOS which is presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► completely reasonable but I never used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► webOS device so I don't know squat about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► it but I don't know I'm curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► where this goes and see how it feels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► in execution because I can tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► for my initial I I only have iOS 11 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► my iPad and my initial impression of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► putting it there was where did Control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► Center go and eventually I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► deduce oh you just need to swipe further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► but golly that's that's tough for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► normal user that isn't really thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► about these sorts of things and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► didn't care for it at all at first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► over time I've gotten used to it the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► the deep swipe or deep isn't the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► in order to get control center but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► see how it works on the phone I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► really excited about the prospect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► having a phone that's sized for humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► but has screen from the plus so or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► know roughly anyway so I'm very anxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► about the thought of being able to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► one of those despite the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► apparently going to be like over $1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► which I'm not too thrilled about but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► know it is what it is yeah honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► acrobatics are required to to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► phone work so we want with things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► touch ID face ID screen sizes edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► swiping all this stuff I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► probably going to be worth it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► there's been this tension in the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► line ever since the introduction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► plus size phone which is like like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► of us myself included want the screen of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► the plus like we want the biggest screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► we can get but those phones are just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► big for us to comfortably comfortably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► carry and and use and hold anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► so the idea of having a much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► screen in the phone size that we're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► to carry now like the middle size or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► something very close to it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► exactly what everybody wants like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► that is so desirable that I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► gonna be willing to tolerate quite a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► of weirdness and transitions and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► possibly downsides to get that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► that that is not a small thing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► anyway thanks for three sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► Kaspar audible and fracture and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► because it was accidental oh it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► accidental John didn't do any research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► Marco Casey wouldn't let him because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► was accidentally was accidental and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► can find the show notes at ADP CAS UIL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► ISS so that's Casey list and a acción [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► so Casey what is your deep thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► batteries as indicated in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► it's actually a question and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► probably silly but I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► this the other day and I was wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► if I could choose and thus I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► asking the two of you as well if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► choose one corporation that exists today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► to make a just night and day battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► breakthrough so let's assume for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► sake of this hypothetical that it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► you know one hundredth of the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► charge whatever battery we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► about so if it's an iPhone it takes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► you know a few seconds or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► that and if it's a Tesla it takes maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► 10 minutes or something to go from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► empty to full or maybe less than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► given that the superchargers are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► darn quick so if you could pick one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► only one company to make just an utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► amazing battery breakthrough who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► it be and the obvious answer for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► three of us that is is Apple because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► want our iPhones to last forever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► think it's bigger than that right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► wouldn't right so I never really reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► a great conclusion which is funny for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► to be bringing it up I feel like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► auto manufacturer may be the best answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► honest-to-goodness electric cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► aren't compromise mobiles to be fair the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► Tesla is amazing it is amazing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► possible way but in a lot of ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► compromises so I feel like some auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► manufacturer maybe Tesla would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► really great answer here but I'm I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► have a feeling after listening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► two I will be convinced then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► there's a better choice so John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► seemed pretty pretty enthusiastic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► this what would you say if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► tremendous battery breakthrough who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► would it be so it's not a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► battery breakthrough unless because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► there are battery technology to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► you're saying but unless it also works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► out with a cost and manufacturability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► resources so that's what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► and in the end batteries are a commodity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► so I would ideally this breakthrough it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► would come from academia or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► not associated with the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► would probably be the easiest and gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► encumbered by stupid patents or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► but in the end what I want it to be is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► something that is that is able to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► produced on a large scale by some boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► company that just produces things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► large scale so maybe an existing battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► manufacturer or like you know General [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► Motors or Siemens yeah or like any you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► know whatever whatever giant corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► that makes commodities of natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► resources is the least evil right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► but either way like I don't want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► be owned during controlled by a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► company right and I want it to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► type of thing that everybody has access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► to because in the same way that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► you know they're building of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► battery capacity for all the electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► vehicles the car energy is actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► a bad place because in general there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► no there is very little technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► commodities like Toyota will sell its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► hybrid powertrain to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► they're gonna pay from them some of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► manufacture some commodity type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► they will sell to other people right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► I want it to be a very large company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► that's good at building things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► for everybody else in that it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► like I will sell this to everybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► wants to sell it and just becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► commodity that everybody is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► manufacture because the breakthrough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► happened in academia and all that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► the patents are freely available um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► wouldn't want Apple to do it or Tesla or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► any other thing because I'm afraid they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► tried to turn it into a competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► advantage that's the last thing we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► everywhere far and wide we don't want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► to be oh this lets Apple and/or Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► extract a an extra six months or a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► of larger profits because it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► longer for everyone else to catch up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► it's not a very satisfying answer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► it's just you know but it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► the the old world where like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► there's a breakthrough and it belongs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► a company things like this like battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► capacity or CPUs or like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► whatever material science in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► industry-wide mark oh yeah i think jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► you know if obviously like the the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► answer is basically what John said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► more interesting specific answer like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► you think about what types of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► or uses are really held back by battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► technology today and you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► things like you know computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► phones and and you know the tech gadgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► that we all use and in many ways we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► doing just fine like yeah everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► everyone could look we would all love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► more battery life we would all love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► not have to plug in ever or to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► actually be able to use the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► computing resources that are in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► mobile devices frequently and all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► throttle all the applications and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► tightly control power or and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► obviously it would make a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► in things like the Apple watch where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► like the application paradigms and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► display uses could be so much better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► we didn't have to worry so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► power constantly so that that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► like the boring answers like yeah make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► all of our tech gadgets have way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► batteries that would be nice but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► still have a great tech industry and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► these gadgets are still awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► amazingly capable even with what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► already have so I think it might be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► interesting to look at like where are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► areas in which batteries and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► technology just is not good enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► even make big shifts possible yet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► so obviously thing you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► transportation in other ways and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► say like obviously like airplanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► currently can't be electrically powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► because like the power and weight ratio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► is just way off like they don't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► there are plenty of electric powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► airplanes you mean airliners right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► big airplanes yeah you know like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► transportation that that like battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► technology batteries you're just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► heavy or too big or don't have the don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► have the capacity or charge too slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► one area that's recently getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► little bit of traction and the electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► vehicle news is trucks long-haul trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► like you know big semis and stuff lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► of energy is spent on trucking and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► you can Electrify trucks the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRzOxb4/6665">TS</a>]
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