00:00:00 ◼ ► that's didn't see I didn't see you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► there swimming in the waves in fact I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► never seen you swimming in them you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► a there's a reason for that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► learning how to swim in the ocean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► that's that's unlikely because the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► is full of things that eat you and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► and that's I'm not gonna eat you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► fine you see all the people playing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► live they go back to their homes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► fine most of them yeah every day every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► day have this the jellyfish are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► taking people so we haven't spoken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/25">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► each other in like a week and a half two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► weeks something like that but we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► back together again back in the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► schedule we'll be back in the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► schedule as far as we know for at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► holidays start picking up and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► if things are gonna go back to normal we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► have to do what we always do and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► especially Jones asked ATP yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► it no it's follow-up so we are starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► with the streaming music iPod shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► like thing which is apparently something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► that uh that Spotify I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► it's for is it first party I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► anyway it's a thing that's for Spotify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► that's called mighty which is a peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► name that is basically an iPod shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► from what I've gathered so John can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► everybody sent us links to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and eventually The Verge picked it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► is that's what we'll link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► notes because we're talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► place in the market for something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► an iPod shuffle but this doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► qualify because first of all it's not 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► bucks is 85 second it does not have cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► data access you'd only has Wi-Fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► Bluetooth so you know we're saying less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► show was the last show maybe a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► before that you know eventually you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► be able to make one of these fifty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► that can just stream music we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► there yet but this one definitely looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► like doesn't look like an iPod shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► looks like a fisher-price versa it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► probably better this is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► was annoying about the shuffle is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► it's so minimal and you needed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► feel your hand on it to do like volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► up or down or next previous track right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► you could find the middle button pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► well but because it was a circle trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► to make sure that you're hitting up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► instead of right or left which can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► very bad if you're in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► podcast especially before they got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► software updated or for your track on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► her it wasn't marked as a podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► iTunes and it was just a song and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/142">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► hit the button and just lose your place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► entirely you couldn't feel with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► finger what what is up and what is down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► this was a little bit better because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► center thing is a square so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/151">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► feel the flat edge anyway it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► another coincidence of a product that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► kind of like what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► but not really like it so well come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► in ten years Marco tell me that audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► bit depth because apparently we got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► ever so slightly wrong well I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► so last show we had some discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► about whether Apple should or ever will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► sell higher resolution music you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► it was like the audiophile world loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► high bitrate high sample rate music like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/183">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► so a may have Mottram writes in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► well I understand how resolution audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► isn't for everybody I was disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► that you guys get the basic terminology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► wrong given the technical bias either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► addressing the difference between bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► depth and bitrate would be appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► so basically so bitrate is how many bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► a an encoding scheme is using you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► usually per second to encode the total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► basically like mp3 they would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► 128 kilobits per second and that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► like the quality level of the music that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► you're getting it's it's how many bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► it will allocate to representing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► usually the more bits you allocate to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► the higher quality you can achieve and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► the less you have to throw away bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► depth is basically talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► precise the samples are everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► kind of picture what a wave looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► you know that's how sound waves come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► and represented in the uncompressed form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► this actually doesn't apply to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► like mp3 quite the same way because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► different but basically when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► looking at just a pure wave form and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► lossless file or a wave or or or AIFF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► every sample of audio is and you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► separate of like you know 44,100 samples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► per second or whatever else represent us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Hertz every one of those samples it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/263">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► bit-depth is the precision of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► numbers so if it's 16-bit like CDs then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► that is represented by a 16-bit signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► integer if it's 24-bit you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► bits if it's usually it I think a 24 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► I think beyond 24 it's always float and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► you have floating point presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► and the reason these matter is that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► you're encoding the music to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► samples there you have to fit a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► the value that you're getting from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► the analog or whatever you have to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► the value of that into this many bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► a number per sample and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► certain degree of rounding that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► and a certain degree of error that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► introduced as part of that rounding if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► you only have 16 bits then that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/311">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► kind of limits your resolution of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► you know how precise of a number you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► represent there and so there's all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► of complicated things that go on in Dax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► and ATC's about basically how you round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► the numbers in such a way to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► the error or to hide the error and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► different noise patterns and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► else as you increase the error rate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► increase the noise floor so you ain't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► you you reduce these signal-to-noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► ratio that's the difference between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► loudest sound you can hear and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► quietest sound that can be represented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► but you know below like the noise floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► so you basically increase like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► hislop the very bottom of the track the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► reason why audiophiles freaked out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► this is because when you go from 16-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► - 24-bit which is where they usually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► the noise floor does drop considerably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► there's a great Wikipedia article title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► audio a bit depth you should check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► basically the noise floor at 24 bits for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► four bit depth is 144 decibels and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► 16 bits the regular CD standards only 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► however the reason that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► matter for the most part is that 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► decibels of suitable noise ratio covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► the human audible hearing range pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► well the actual human audible hearing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► just something like 120 decibels it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► varies per person a little bit but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► around a hundred mils so it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► isn't representing the entire human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/396">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► actually damaging your eardrums like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► human hearing range can go much higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► in in volume than what you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► sustained basis like that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► know a rock concert or a jet airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► flying overhead or things about its if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► you listen at any reasonable length to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► something that loud you're gonna damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► your hearing pretty quickly permanently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► so 90s accessible zuv signal noise ratio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► which is what you get from CD quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► listening where it matters is if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► recording like I record my end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► show is 24-bit I record audio 24-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► whenever I can or as float even whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► I can with 32-bit usually because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► you're editing you're changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► numbers you're processing the audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► so if you have rounding error over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► adjustments or anything like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► then that 96 decibels of noise floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► that was in the original signal once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► rounding off the numbers a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► times you might actually have more error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► in the signal than that and the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► floor might start to become audible so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► we're higher bitrate audio makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► recording but the final shift version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► that you that you release to the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► or the version that you the listener are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► listening to doesn't need to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► all right sorry that's all it says Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► Marco that you you really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► audio I don't understand where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► comes from if you want also there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► wonderful video that explains a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► there's a guy Monty I think his full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► name is Chris Montgomery he is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/504">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► invented the aw glorious audio codec and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► he has a lot of great explainers out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► there about basically like why you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► need higher than CD quality audio as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► listener and and explains a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► stuff that I learned a lot from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/520">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► it's my other research but I'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► both these links in the show notes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► that video and the Wikipedia article on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► audio bit depth excellent so we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► couple of thoughts or listeners had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► couple of thoughts about the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► crow knotch and I'm embarrassed to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► that there's one thought that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► consider so I'm in the camp that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► not having seen anything of course that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► it makes the most sense to to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► hide the knotch so hypothetically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► area adjacent to the notch would be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► black so it all kind of blend together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and it would just look like empty screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► in the center and it would look not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► dissimilar from the way a phone looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► but somebody maybe there's one of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► guys thought we'll okay smart guy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► happens when you go landscape and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► don't have a good answer for that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► really ashamed myself that I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► think about this yeah until I saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► in the show notes so Marco what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► think about what happens when you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► this supposed phone in landscape so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► obviously it depends on like how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► if the notch is basically hidden and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► just have like status bar black on left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► and right and then you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► square window below it that takes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► rest of the screen which as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► previously that's what I kind of hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► they do if that's what they do then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► think it's pretty easy in landscape you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► just leave those little strips black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► probably not what they will do I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► feeling what they actually will do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► you know shove translucent UI under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► those and have ways to actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► use it in a way that might be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► awkward now in landscape the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► I think anybody to use their phones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► landscape I think probably the big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► are watching video although even that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► lot of people watch it in portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► anyway just because they're they that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► how they are used to holding their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► landscape although again I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► most successful ones playing portrait on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► the phone and then the other thing as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► guess when you're when you're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► video or shooting with the camera you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► might rotate it so all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► could they could make ways to to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► in a few clever ways like maybe a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► could show some controls in there maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► the camera can show some controls in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► there but I haven't feeling most of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► we're gonna see is basically going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► in landscape the not just becomes black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and you don't see it at all yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► you can't can't do anything with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► escaped because anything that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► think of doing would represent data loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► to the content in portrait the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► bar is not your content it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► UI so you can do whatever dance you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► to do with the status bar whether it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► know hides in there or the status bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► the blower ever but how if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► landscape and you're doing video or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► something even if the OS lets you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► edge to edge and use the notches what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► you want to see what's under the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► things it's like something's in my way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► shooting there no maybe that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► important was there was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► was angry about oh I think it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► QuickTime Player many years ago maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► still now I don't know I still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► QuickTime Player seven but at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► Apple I believe Apple released a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► player I think it was the QuickTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► that would show video in a window with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► rounded corners and it was like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/718">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► like don't chop off the corner it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► there's video in those corners why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► is a lot of video but there is video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► there and just like no you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► see that because it's more important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► this window to ever end of course than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► for you to see the video that's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► corner and I know it's just a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► thing but just on the principle it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► like if you do that I don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► the option to see what's under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► right so I think you have to just when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► you go into landscape I feel like the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► are just enforced entirely maybe games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► come up with something clever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► little men climb on the knotch writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► than not just like a little gun turret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► or something but McGee yeah cuz you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► incorporate it and be fun but it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► only work in this one model of phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► it's just so much safer to say when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► anybody goes in landscape forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► the notch we don't light up the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► on either side of it the thing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► you know it's just a straight line down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► the edge I also saw by the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► another mock-up image for a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► showing screen real estate wise what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► you get with the edge to edge phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► I know this can't be true because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► one's got to be wider than the iPhone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► - but it was like basically trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► say you don't really get any new space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► because all the new pixels on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► are taken up essentially with the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► button area and whatever they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► there and this thing was assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► like the UI and navbar wasn't gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► throw stuff there and in the top you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► got the notch and then you got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► sliver of space and then you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► normal iPhone sized screen in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► those two things and little sliver of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► space was like look like a little status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► bar so the idea was that I guess if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► had a non optimized for iPhone Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► application it would show its status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► below the knotch in the traditional way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► because between the bottom of the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► in the top of the software home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► area would be a screen that is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► resolution as some existing a high phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► anyway that's that's the impression I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► got from this image but the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► about them I think I can't possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► the case because at the very least it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► should be wider everything other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► but it would be weird if there was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/841">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► unmodified apps that were not like notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► savvy you know what I mean like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► could they miss that you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► like that it's inelegant they took they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► you know phone apps run it to X on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► iPad to this day and it looks terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and they zoom things that have not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► updated for the iPhone 5 for more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► they in the past they've done that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► it's been a good choice but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► look if people don't update their apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► will make them run as close as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► to the way they used to run so the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► has no idea that is running a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► new weird phone it just looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► compatible because we don't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► weird and I can imagine that happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► with with this new phone which will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► bad but I guess will motivate people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► applications fair enough now why bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► having the notch in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► again this is one of my thoughts why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/897">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► we doing this way I have a notch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► the edge to edge screen alright yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► won't have an edge miscreant but why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/907">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► we have to have a notch of that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► go all the way to the left it all went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► to the right edge and all the way to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/912">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► bottom edge all you had to do is not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► all the way to the top edge instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► having a notch you have a presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► very thin little forehead it would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► be a quote-unquote edge to edge screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► as compared to all I phones previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► would have very large chins and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► asymmetrical and so with the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► skinny little forehead version but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► would last a symmetrical John the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► I mean well but you know the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► is there's something that's Hoppus out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/944">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► on the bottom whether it's a skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► thing if something's happen anyway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► it would just it would just eliminate an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► entire class we would solve our problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► so presumably Apple has done a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► work in the OS and then the frameworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► figuring out the answers to all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► questions that we're just guessing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► now right they've done they've figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► out answers to all of these they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► decided what they're gonna do in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► applications test the new API so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► be notch savvy and do all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► right all that work would go away if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► they just made the notch go from edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► edge but I guess the phone wouldn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► as cool and then you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► like does anyone else have a notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► example gonna be the first night run I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► know there are phones out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► already look like edge to edge screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► both a little skinny for head so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► Apple just didn't want to look like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► one of those things where if Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/988">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► like other companies and like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► they have like interviews with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► designer it's like you get the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► team that design the new iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► they'd help to do a big article and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► wired or something and be like tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► about your motivation for design there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► and they would like explain why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► right but we never get those reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► just like this is the phone here it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► maybe there's a sentence and a key note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► elaborate on yeah like so we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► to wait 20 years for the tell-all books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► but it's a bit of a head-scratcher for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► me because I think it looks cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► notch I think there's gonna be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► interesting possibilities there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► is a heck of a lot of work and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► like a stopgap like if we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► not just forever presumably whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► tech issues necessitate the knotch will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► diminish over time either your old embed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► those sensors someplace else or you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► be able to make such a skinny forehead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► that it won't even be a far heaven would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► just be like thing goes to edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► or I don't know the good that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► not the permanent state of what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► well all future iPhones have notches for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the next seven years there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► notches from here to there but I dunno I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► kept doing all this work with the OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► everything it seemed like a waste if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► the time we rejiggered all the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► frameworks in the west of this one phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► and it was the only one that ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► having a notch I don't know we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► out in the fall I guess yeah this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► this is why what I want to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► although I don't think this is what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► happen again but what I want to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► here is I want the notch to to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► be invisible in the software like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► it to just have a status bar on left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► right then then you you get the extra 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► point height that the status bar would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► have taken up in the main screen you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► shove that up and in you know into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► little side area where there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► center but you can rearrange status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► and in the application frame is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► everything below that I would love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► programmer of apps for this thing and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► a designer of the app I do not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► I think it will be clunky and weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► I think it will look weird as a user I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► not looking forward to that at all and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► do think it looks like an inelegant hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► and if Samsung would have released that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► and Apple didn't we'd make fun of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► for it that's exactly the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► we'd be like oh you guys are bad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► design look at those stupid knotch just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► like the flea and like the flat tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► moto 360 watch like we made fun of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► relentlessly everyone in Apple world did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► because that was that was like a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► design hack to get around a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► shortcoming I don't see how the notch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► any different that looks like a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► design hack to get her in a facility or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► coding domain again we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► happens when when we see the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► software but I really do not want the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► in any way to wrap around that except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► the status bar in a way that you barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► even notice but because of that leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► image from the home hot firmware showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► that knotch as like the recognizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► iconic shape of this phone that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► reason I'm concerned that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► doing it that way now let's ben lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► screen like i said it may yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► just the lockscreen that that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► be too bad but if it's any other parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► translucent bars under there or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► with that i really i don't think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► going to like that that again it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► like that seems like a bad design hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► so people that chatroom are posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► pictures of of course android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► that have their own little notches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► one they're saying showing here it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► very tiny notch it just wraps around one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► facing camera cuz obviously the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► what is uh the the new phone supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► have a notch instead of just this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► tiny button like cut out because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► got to have more than just a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► there maybe they'll have two front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► facing cameras certainly it's got the IR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► sensor for depths of the face stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► who knows what's in that notch but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► can't be smallest but anybody as in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► things Android phones have done first so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► I think actually Simpsons did a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► round then opera hopper that Simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► did it is the line opera did it first is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► that joke so I think opera wins this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► did you really just well actually mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► the sad part is right we are sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► this week by Eero go to Iran calm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► use code ATP for free overnight shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► Wi-Fi when you only have one router just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► doesn't cover houses very well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► Wi-Fi waves don't go through walls as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► well as I go through open spaces and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► get these dead zones and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► euro is designed to solve that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► because businesses and schools and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► campuses have done this for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► they use multiple access points and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► you did this for your home it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► very complicated before euro euro makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► it incredibly easy to have a distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► Wi-Fi system enterprise-grade Wi-Fi in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► your home with the easiest setup of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► system I've ever seen all you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► plug it in you use their app on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► iPhone or your Android phone and sets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► up and you have to do literally almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► nothing so you get the one main unit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► they've actually just updated their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► hardware the old ones are great too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► they just did the generation 2 system so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► this has the main unit which is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► tribe and as twice and twice as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► the first one has hold a radio you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► these now these secondary units they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1299">TS</a>]
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00:21:52 ◼ ► outlet it looks amazing it's tiny it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► unobtrusive they even actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► night lights in the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► beacons look is pretty cool so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► put it like in a hallway or anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1319">TS</a>]
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00:22:02 ◼ ► and that covers the whole house and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► don't have to be wired to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1324">TS</a>]
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00:22:11 ◼ ► distribute the Wi-Fi with a mesh network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► between themselves so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► worry about running Ethernet wires to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► your access points or anything else it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► super super easy with the new second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1339">TS</a>]
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00:22:25 ◼ ► even nicer and it's even smaller what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► you need is this kind of system single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1347">TS</a>]
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00:22:31 ◼ ► don't cover houses we all know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1351">TS</a>]
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00:22:59 ◼ ► has a written blog post to say among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► other things one password 7th windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► will be getting support for standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► vaults which is the thing that started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► the big kerfuffle a few weeks ago also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► WLAN sync and different license related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► information John any other thoughts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► want to add on this no just that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► another in that pattern we've seen for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► couple of a couple of years now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► like a company will change some part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► its product either the features or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► business model or both and then a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► of people get angry about it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► there's always it's always the follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► we're like they've incorporated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► feedback from their customers like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► you know they were taken by surprise by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► how you know angry people are about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► particular thing and they all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► we can change that you know to reassure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► people that like we're not gonna you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► know the description thing is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► to take away your ability to have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► your stuff locally you don't have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► the cloud so on and so forth so looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► like they are doing the right things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► yeah I saw a lot of feedback about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► a lot of people talked about well if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► everything goes subscription then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► not gonna have any money for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► anymore and I don't know I feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► should address that perhaps again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► don't know what did we talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► Marko covered it the last time we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► I agree it's fresh in my mind it's fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► in my mind I listen to those shows just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► but yeah like it is it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► slippery slope argument but so far it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► hasn't happened and it there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► there's a natural counterbalance which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► is well if people don't like it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► won't buy it and if they don't buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► people won't do it like so it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► there's there aren't many forces in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► mix here that are going to cause this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► dystopia to happen despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► users don't want it like it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► for there to be countervailing forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► for example if Apple said hey guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► the only way you could sell plication is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► in the app course it's a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► but that that's not the way things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► so I it's not not time to be worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► about it now don't like it don't buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► exactly exactly what I was gonna say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► something if something that you you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► subscription then guess what you're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► have an option which is not to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► subscription that's okay the one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► will say though is that the the if if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► app goes from not subscription to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► subscription like there's no way around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► that that's going to happen from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► time and that is tough right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► here it is you thought you paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► something in some cases that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► would have for a while although you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► should not have expected that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► it forever and then the the cost changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► and that's a bummer like the I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► mean to be sarcastic all at all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► that that really is a bummer but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► different trade-offs to like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► person who said like what if I lose my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► job I don't want to also lose all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► programs because I can't afford to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► well you know that's the smile I lose my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► job I don't want to lose cable TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► because they can't afford the bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► well you know it's like well I need this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► offer to do my job like there presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► every single application an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► category won't be subscription right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► even if it is maybe they'll have varying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► subscriptions are like three bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1562">TS</a>]
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00:26:04 ◼ ► you know three dollars a month you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► much bigger problems than not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► to use your graphics program to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► spec work which you shouldn't be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1570">TS</a>]
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00:26:13 ◼ ► you know in times of hardship many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► things are difficult from paying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► rent to your food your health insurance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► your software licenses are just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► one of those potential things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► be a problem but you know if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► need for this then if this is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► someone will fill it by selling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► and you know selling upgrades in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► traditional way or going into business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► because they can't sustain their one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► application but hey you've got it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► it stops working I mean there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► options to like you know look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► like high school kids and college kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► and people in developing countries like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► there's a lot of markets of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► licenses or subscriptions and they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► piracy maybe he's not the best option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► but it's certainly a widespread one a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► much better option is free software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1621">TS</a>]
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00:27:14 ◼ ► that like almost all these like big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► creative apps or productivity apps they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► almost all have freeware alternatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► free open-source if not just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► free alternatives and not to mention you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► know the all the stuff built into the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► is these days or doing things on on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► and Android where the apps cost very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► very little money usually and usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► you you you know buy it once if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► and it's free and you can do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► free stuff there or we do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► inexpensive stuff there with tools that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► are really good these days like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► lots of options now I think that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► software subscriptions thing is mostly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► complaint from people who very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► can't afford them and are just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► for a reason to be upset about a pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► change because when you change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► business model that's when people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► upset it matters a lot less what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► change it to then the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► changed it and people feel may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► surprised or caught off guard by that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► feel like they're being taken advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► of like after the fact you're changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► the deal you know after the fact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► know I know pray you don't sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► further etc I don't again I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► this is a real issue I I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► this is something that anybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► actually facing hardship over in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► real numbers this is people complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► who very much can't afford it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► are just mad and for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► truly can't afford it there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► great options out there that are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► inexpensive or free and many of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► built into the OS you already have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► whatever isn't you can get in your App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► for very little money or nothing usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► because this is not like people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► computers without paying for things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► them for a very long time this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► is a solved problem in so many ways all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► ero wants to know is there any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► not to use the built-in calibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► tools on the Apple TV you can get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► that from the opportunity settings audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► and video calibrate you can use them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► they're terrible I mean like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► terrible they're limited like I think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► all it does is like screen bounds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► maybe like one other thing like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► doesn't do all the color or white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► balance greyscale brightness contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► you know doesn't do all that stuff if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► they want to improve that in a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► version TV also would be great but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► current one and I believe the one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► the betas it still does very limit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► better than nothing so by all means do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► it in so you can see if you're in a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► you like situation where you're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► half the pixels on your screen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► not half but some portion of the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► on your screen because you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► thing an over scan mode and that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► make you sad to know that but beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► that you still need the calibration it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► all right apparently Samir Mizrahi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► listens to our show or at least that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► what I'm going to claim because mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► weeks maybe even a few days after we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► discussed how frustrating it is to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► the first song in your library every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► time you reconnect the ax Bluetooth this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► this individual has released a single on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► iTunes called aaaa a very good song and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► it is it's a little less than 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► of silence because apparently any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► than 10 minutes and iTunes charges you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► for a whole album and the idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► because it's a space a space a space a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► space a space very good song it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► likely to be the very first song in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► in your library so every time you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► in your phone or start bluetooth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► what-have-you you don't hear the same in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► my case track by olya every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► so this is an absolutely brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► solution to a problem that none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► should really have my favorite thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► about this is how far up the charts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► was climbing like we saw some articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► in there I don't have anything hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► unfortunately cuz I'm a slacker on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► noticeably ranking on the iTunes top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► singles chart somewhere why you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► allowed to start with like a spacer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► know a punctuation character or number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► or all the other things that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► sorted before the A's because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► like now now this is now you've started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► a war now for who can be the earliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► try no don't get that AAA track you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► my track which is one one one I'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► money it's it's space space space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► exclamation point anyway well I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► like that's kind of like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► million dollar homepage problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► anybody else who tries the same thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► it's not gonna get anywhere yeah I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► just thanked for sorting purposes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► for like actually selling the thing um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► but you know everyone sent us this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► obviously but it doesn't solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► problem at all in fact I think it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► it worse the fact that it sound makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► worse because if I had this track I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► would be like waiting and thinking am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► hearing the silent track or is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► taking a long time to start playing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► background or and like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► problem is not I keep hearing the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► you know few notes of a song because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► alphabet be alphabetically first song in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► my playlist I like it's a good song and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► I'm not sick of it because I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► listened it the whole thing I frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► by the fact that it has picked the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► source and by the way after I said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► most of the time that's the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► maybe 15 percent of the time I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► this thing is taken revenge on me and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► last like 50 trips in the car one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► percent of the time and I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► playing music even if I was just playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► I don't know if it's overcast beta is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► crashing or I don't know what the hell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► going on but anyway it's really bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► me wait there is no current beta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► should be using the App Store version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► well that's the problem do I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► little dot next overcast on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► it's a bug right now I do I do get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► of that alright anyway maybe that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► problem but either way this this crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► would not solve my problem in I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► what did she really be as a voice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► says it happened again you you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► different audio we were playing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► instead it's playing this song from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► playlist pull over safely and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► fiddle with your phone don't try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► you'll run somebody over or you'll die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► but you'd be sick of hearing that bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► line is there is no safe track to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► there and I don't think the silence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► solves the problem I think it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► worse but more power to this person for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► the sounds of silence all right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► know how to sell music on iTunes but can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► we cut that out and actually try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► and then be the way to solve this I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► we have some listeners inside of Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► don't know how high up they go but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► way to solve this is to somehow get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► hold of Johnny Ives or Tim Cook's iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► and sync a single track to it that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► renamed version of some very annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► song that is renamed to be like a Abe's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► possibilities are endless of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► you know something something really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► would really dread the most this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► will get solved in the next version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► iOS it fails Karl just B can innovate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► more my ass on a loop my word so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► actually did get some feedback about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► this and this individual rate wrote to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► say Bluetooth has two major ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► start playback in a car the good old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► simple Play command and a newer set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► advanced browsing commands that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► the car to control the apps and navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► the media library on the phone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► play command the active media player is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► chosen by the phone and that from time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► to time gets a little buggy according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► this person it is quite likely that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► whole little subsystem was written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► one person who may have then been moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► somewhere else within Apple and who even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► knows but with the new browsing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► then the car can decide how it wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► select you know like the active media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► player and in a playlist and an album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► and blah blah blah and so now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► letting the car make choices that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► probably shouldn't be making and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► makes everything a little bit dodgy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► this is this is surely in part apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► entirely apples fault depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► car depending on how its connecting etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► etc etc where sponsor was week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► aftershocks bone conduction headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► go to ATP aftershocks calm to learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► aftershokz headphones work by bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► conduction so these small transducers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► rest in front of your ears not inside or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► around them like most headphones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► they send mini vibrations through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► cheek bones directly to your inner ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► totally bypasses your ears and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► eardrums so unlike every other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► headphone bone conduction leave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► ears completely open with nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► them so for a lot of people like me we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► can't wear earbuds or in-ear monitors do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► they get physically uncomfortable in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► ear canals aftershocks don't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► problem because nothing is sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► your ear and because they don't cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► your ear I find them far less sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► than regular headphones in the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► time and they're even ip55 certified for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► water-resistant so you can you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► with them in the rain or you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► them all gross and it's totally fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► have found that I use these more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► any other headphones in the summertime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► in fact I'm on vacation right now for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► few weeks and I brought only these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► portable headphones I've left at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► because I will I only want to use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► here because I'm walking a lot and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► these multiple hours a day I'm sweating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► a lot I'm sometime using them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► rain and it's totally fine and the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► thing about it is that because nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► blocks your ears at all you hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► whole world around you so you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► walking or you know maybe cycling or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► running where you really want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► the world around you for safety reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► something that doesn't block your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► and that's what bone conduction is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► at it's also great if you want to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► around the house you know if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► like take a phone call because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► these are obviously a Bluetooth they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► do phone calls if you want to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► phone call with them and maybe you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► to hear if anything happens in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► house and the process you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► too and so if I'm honest the downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► here are there aren't the best for sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► quality and they don't get very loud if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► you're in a very loud environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► because they're so open to the world if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► you're in like a like a subway station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► these wouldn't be the pick for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► they're amazing for walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► outside for any kind of exercise use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► around the house and anymore anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► you want it you want to hear the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► around you that's where the aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► are great and again they're so awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► for minimizing sweatiness too so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► aftershocks tracks titanium that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► here retails for one hundred and thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► listeners can get can get a pair for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► yourself for just $100 90-95 by visiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► thanks to aftershocks for sponsoring our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► apparently SKT P is really a thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► were John I think you'd said you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► it to be a thing in Marco you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► said the same all right it apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► well the question is where does it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► does it go after follow-up or does it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► after topics or does it go in the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► show where does it go no I think it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► after follow-up it sounds good I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► that was right you always don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► keep us away from our topics that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► have long asked eighty people less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► likely to get topics you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► could do John now down stick with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► here I know this is wild we could we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► could have a little bit less follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► are you sure we've been recording 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► minutes I didn't an item about talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► about bit-depth for 20 minutes I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Margo that was in 20 minutes anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► Cain asks how do you guys sync your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► directories between your Macs and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► go first I don't I use Dropbox for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► handful of things but generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► it's all in the cloud man so who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► same yeah I don't like my home directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that's not a thing I mean I doubt many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► people do that I think there used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► a way to know I'm thinking of the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► thing never mind anyway when people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► is they just use cloud stuff whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► it's an iCloud Drive or Dropbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► that's the stuff that syncs but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► directories and it probably wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► a good idea to sync your entire home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► directories because probably in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► library directory in your home directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► there's crap that is machine specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► somewhere lurking in there so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► probably don't want to do a naive full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► sync of your entire home directory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► in general think is really hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► right and don't try setup something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► yourself to do it because you'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► end up posing yourself and you'll be set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► fair enough this is a truly great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► question which outside of the obvious I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► don't have a really good answer to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► the question is from let me get a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Peter cam Peter cam asks what's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► piece of old tech that is still in use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► not hidden in an attic and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► really talking to you John due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► superior qualities or retro joy so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► example CRT TV old video game consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► iPods etc I will start again the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► turntable that I still use almost daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► however I just received that turntable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► as a Christmas present and it was brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► new at the time so it is it is old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► technology however it is a new device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► terms of old technology that's still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► use I I can't think of anything offhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► I'm sure there's something I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► debating that I have something barbaric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and old that I still use but darned if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► so marking one first last time John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► anything old that's outside of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► attic I was going to say my plasma TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► but that's not superior quality anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► it's not retro joy so I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► probably just the example of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► my consoles are probably it I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► bunch of old console hooked up journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► on ps4 helps me not have to use my ps3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► for that but if want to play ego or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► Shadow of the Colossus I still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► use the ps3 so it is still connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► my TV there's gonna be a ps4 our port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► I shall of the Colossus leaving only eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► like my ps3 is hanging on same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► with my wii which is basically used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► play GameCube games most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► almost all my old consoles are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► hooked up it's kind of gonna be a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► when I eventually get a 4k TV because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► doubt the 4k TV will have component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► video input to which I can connect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► Gamecube so I have to buy some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► adapter and then I probably go ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► don't even bother right same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► the Wii I have we got component video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► going into my TV I don't have to buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► adapter for that as well but for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► yeah I got a lot of old consoles like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► them you know I should point out that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► mark Marco is probably going to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► same thing I I forgot about which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► do have a mechanical watch that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► not terribly old but I do like using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► when I'm dressing up for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► so now that I've stolen your Thunder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► Marco what about you honestly that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► that was what I was thinking of as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► the the best thing I could say here most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► of the things that I use are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► like I the things I thought I use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► are actually like quote old and tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► interesting so like I'll have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► know like an old speaker ramp that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► know for my desk or something but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► like you know old a desk an old desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► computer speaker ramp being like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► years old you know or like for a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► was using a my first fujitsu scansnap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► scanner which I got about nine years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► but I actually replaced that about last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► year because it I was tired of replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► the rollers and the new ones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► superfast and so I just got a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► yeah for me I think the best answer here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► is mechanical watches it's it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► very interesting answer and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► new answer for people who have heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► talk ever so that's why I kind of wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► I Warnock was been better but I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► able to I do have mechanical watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► that are somewhat old my oldest one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► from 1968 so that's fairly old so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► awesome and that's the end of a sketchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► fee for this week topics Johnny really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► gonna let me get away with this so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► so fast it's a really quick one it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► really quick one that's not the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► how many questions that we do I just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► three because that's how many I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► put before I ran out of time before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► show so Chris Johnson thank you Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► writes in blah blah destiny - blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► which destiny to class and subclass will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► you start with have a nsobject and let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► see some beautiful set I like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2631">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► they dropped the Enna's prefix man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► so I'm going to do I was a warlock main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► I barely I had to tighten that my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► played and a hunter that I barely played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► I did level the Titan in hunter up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► twenty-two along with my warlock but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► gonna be world like me and destiny too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► and I'm probably gonna start with Don [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► blade because it's the new one was any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► of that English because it didn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► people know sort of asked ATP a rousing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► success thing and I had to rush to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► the things in there and between trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► to get my kids and my dog settle down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► British so feel free to I'm pulling from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► that same she'd feel free to pull your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► own questions in there and throw them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► the little section you know the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► answer which will never work but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► rightest answer is for each of us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► pull our favorite question each week but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► I guarantee Marco will forget and or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► care and I give myself one chance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► three eventually remembering pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► questions and throw them in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► you know maybe we wouldn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► section at all if I hadn't remembered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► so that's true oh where would we be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► and speaking of John tell us about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► kerfuffle with Google and this diversity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► memo which I'm not sure is even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► right way to describe it yeah the salton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► kind of news by now but we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► there in the world of politics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► discrimination there is newer news but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► it is not really tech related but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► certainly is tech related it's a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► that everybody probably knows by now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► Google employee wrote I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► they call it a memo I guess the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► parlance wrote a big thing sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► talking to Google internally saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► we're all Googlers here here's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► think about what the company is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► and here's my opinion on it so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► forth and it caused a big stink we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► put a link to the document in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► notes on the off chance that you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► already read it it's not that long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► like oh it's ten pages and the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► scheme of things it's not that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► because we don't pay doesn't the web you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► just scroll and also what we'll have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► the show notes are what I think are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► of the best responses to the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► thing so anyway at the impact of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► story here being a to summarize in chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► and Casey doing this the upshot is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► the person who wrote this was fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► because it contained I forget what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► phrasing was but it contains a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► ideas and opinions that are counter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► the way Google operates and then people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► are angry that the person got fired and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► people argued on the internet about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► so on and so forth again this is a well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► covered story and I feel like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► don't know we're talking about or don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► or have only read one or two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► about just read you know the five links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► that we put in there feel like you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► have covered the range of what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► how people react to it but on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► what I wanted to talk about you guys can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► feel free to take whatever angle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► want on this thing is the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► people dismissed the memo that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► like read it and where we just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► didn't address it at all didn't take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► seriously they just dismissed it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► hand and a lot of people were angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► about that like why won't you engage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► with this why won't you talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► ideas lots of yelling about like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► said something bad about it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► didn't even talk about any of the points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► that are in the memo like why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► being so dismissive and I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► where people are coming from with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► but I think there is an explanation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► it's a frustrating explanation but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► something you know you encounter again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and again nothing when I read that memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► nothing in it was new because I had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► every idea put forward to the memo many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► many times before because there weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► a lot of new I don't want any new ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► something that someone else has said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► the very similar form many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► many many times in the past and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► enter any field whatever it is whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► it's woodworking programming diversity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► whatever it is and you lay out all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► opinions but you are not an expert in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► the field chance especially if you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► something controversial or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► addressing some point that is a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► contention chances are very good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► the people who have been arguing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► the same topic and who have studied this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► topic and you know we're just like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► well versed in this topic chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► very good that they've heard everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► you're going to say before and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► argued about it amongst themselves for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► years and years and years and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► you come out with this thing and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► roll their eyes and dismiss you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► because to them it's like the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► hundred times someone is saying exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► same things and they've already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► discussed but from the outside it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► how why are you not addressing my points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► I feel like I have important things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► say here and how can like it's how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► you just dismiss me it's not a valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► argument obviously I'm you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► I'm writing you're just afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► address my block this is gonna happen no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► and I mean and well in some ways you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► have to recognize like where you are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► the in the range of knowledge about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► topic am I do I have a PhD in this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► have I studied this topic for 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► and a well-versed in all the literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► and like or am I just somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► thought about this for the past year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► two and has some ideas like you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► shouldn't dismiss me and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► novice and says something that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► said before then please tell me point by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► laborious point bring me up to speed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► the state of the art in this area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► study that's not a reasonable request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► because then it's like everybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► stumbles into a math forum and says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► just think I've you know what about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► and have you guys ever thought of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► they gotta teach you all the math you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► need to know to get but the point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► realize the thing that you're saying has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► been discussed many times before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► like either proven or disproven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► you're the different you know like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► that's not a valid position I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► little bit about something and I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► opinion and here's this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► they're like oh well we've seen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► say that thing a million times we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► already discussed it amongst ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and we already know what everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► in the field thinks about this we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► have time to bring you up to speed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► the this entire field of study and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► feels like you're being dismissed and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► I understand why people are angry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► guy who wrote it's angry about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► dismissed people who sympathize with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► what is in the thing are angry that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► this thing is dismissed they feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► you know you know whatever it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► silenced no one's taking him seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► or whatever now first of all that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► that's an initial reaction but second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► all these links in the show notes sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► that's not true that some some poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► people went there and just went point by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► laborious point and tried mightily to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► explain and these aren't even experts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► the field for the most part these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► just people who didn't happen to know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► little bit more or have a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► clearer you know train of thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► this or really just even if they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► expertise in the field but have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► around the block a few times and ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► argued on the internet a few times thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► anything about this subject but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► tell you memo writer that you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► like you know that even without knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► anything about this topic I can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► your points don't connect and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► doing a bad job arguing this and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► if you if you argued on Usenet in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► 90s if you argued in person in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► college campuses in the 80s and 70s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► 60s like you know the person who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► this memo you know they're thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► recognize their their enthusiasm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► fervor and like just this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► about getting old like everything slows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► goes bad and your eyes get worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► just all sorts of bad things happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► there's something to that wisdom thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► hey I mean that wisdom maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► experience like that's why and all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► of sci-fi things when there's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► old creature like they're always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► like a like you've seen it all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► I know that's like the worst thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► like you know that itself is a logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► fallacy like a you know appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Authority or you should trust me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► I know a lot about this topic but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► it's not what it is it's more like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► exhaustion like if pressed if the fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► experts in the field could take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► person into a room and over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► of the next 20 years educate them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► point where they understand what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► wrong with this memo right and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► like that should be the goal of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► you know if you trust that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► case and I'm not just like blowing smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► but that the goal should be like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► if you read this memo and you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► there are some good solid points in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► there your goal should be to learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► about it heal until you get on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► page with everyone else who sees this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► for what it is or learn so much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► that you actually reveal the real truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► of it that nobody knows right but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► tell you this memo is not the real truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► but the nobody knows because this memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► are the same tired ideas that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► discussed again and again and again by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► people in every single field related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► and that like again this this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► meta point and people like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► want to hear it and there's no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► convince them of it or not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► really here to convince people that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► is the case but like that's why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► get angry about that's why it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► frustrating and I want I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► stay working the topic itself because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► want people to understand this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► be true when you come in and tell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► about a particular kind of glue putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► remote control boats and the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► control bolt builders have discussions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► about this kind of glue 50 years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► they just roll their eyes and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► look I know it seems like that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► glue is the kind of glue you want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► I know you have a lot of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► that you think supports your idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► kind of loses the trust me we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► debating this glue for 50 years and 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► years ago we all came to this conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► and we revisit this topic room time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► decided to see if things have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► but they haven't and you're wrong and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► don't have time to explain to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► again glue for model boats is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► simpler than this topic right so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► that's my reaction as a tired old person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► who is beaten down by even worse things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► happening and in the world right that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► see this I see the young person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► writing it I know where that person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► coming from I know that person it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► I've seen you know these exact arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► on these exact specific topics and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► depressing to have to have this argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► again it's depressing this these tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► ideas get any kind of traction and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► people go out of their way to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► hard work to explain to this person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► to anybody who reads this something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► like to explain to the world like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► know isn't that your job to educate me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► about but not really but we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► it anyway because we know it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► it's it's what we have to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► we can't just let us stand as it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► many many people did you know tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► explain what's wrong with this and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► not going to try to explain it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► because I feel like the problem is topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► a lot of times on the show is any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► of pockets like this is I think what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► described in the hypercritical days as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► having a slow-motion argument with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► internet one-sided slow-motion argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► where you'll say a bunch of stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► actually is there disagree with you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► you can actually have a debate so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► have to debate the hypothetical person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► who's out there and then you put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► podcast out into the world man you wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► a week and a bunch of people reply and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► say that's not what I think at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► actually I think X Y Z and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► debate those people's feedback but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► you but then what about people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► care about a topic anymore it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► it's impossible to have a slow-motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► debate with it with a hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► person so that's why I'm trying to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► this meta and also because like I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► think there's some really good articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► about this and to be clear this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► the the ideas and by the unit are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► the right ideas they are just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► it's explicable by all of the the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► of they're speckled by the experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► and the biases that the person who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► it is bound to have had and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► this is a learning opportunity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► everybody involved why did he get fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► do you think you should have been fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► that's the that's the controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► thing yeah I don't see how you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► fire him because how can you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► thinks women on average are genetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► less capable than men to do the job like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► how can you have that person doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► performance reviews or leading a team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► people like how can you have that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► if that's in people's secret heart so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► you don't know about it fine but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► someone comes out and says this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► I believe you can't have that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► doing performance you can just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► segregated company and then segregate by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► everybody's biases right and never mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► that you know these are all at-will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► employees they can be fired pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► every reason any reason and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► misogyny is not a protected class like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► it's an idea like yeah like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► guess what if you you uh call your boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► a jerk every day and give him the finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► you're also gonna get fired because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► people who call the her boss a jerk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► give them the finger are not a protected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► class like there are so many things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► can get fired do to get fired this of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► all the things at least is like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► high-minded in terms of things you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► getting fired for believe me you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► fired for way stupider stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► that's the way employment works and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► but yeah like this yeah you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► fight in fact it's it probably should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► have been fired faster but I'm sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► got to go through all the legal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► for whatever so anyway I think I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► starting to get into the realm of we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► argument but the internet I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► to do that what do you two have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► about this I have very little to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► because you just did a really good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► of covering it and I also don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► go into the slow-motion argument with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► the internet the common people's grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► on what free speech protects them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► is about as good as their grasp on fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► use and copyright which is not that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► no copy intended no copyright intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► Marco so yeah I would before making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► I learned investigate with some basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► research what free speech actually gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► you and what is actually an assurance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► what it actually means and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► doesn't mean and yeah John I think coda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► very well I I I have to admit I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► fully read James's memo or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► was manifesto whatever it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► life is short and I could tell pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► pretty soon into it this was not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► I'm been reading it so I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► decided to do anything else with my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► rearend openings memo on what he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► about people so I decided not to yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► same here he provided a summary at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► top have Elly called it a tldr because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► but yeah the summon summer yet was hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► like you don't have to read the temp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► ages reading the five six point summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► or whatever it's a it is a fit mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► wrote the summary himself it is a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► encapsulation of the points made and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► things you could look at only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► yep no I've seen this idiot before yep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► understand where he's coming from yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► no III I got a bet that far then I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► like yeah this is and then once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► thought that was the memo and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► I saw that was simply the summarize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► oh my god close tab I would also say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► that I think it's worth it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► Google doing some introspection here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► about their own culture and and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► what is it about Google's culture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► would hire somebody who holds these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► ideas that would foster someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► intellectual development who would hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► his ideas and that would that would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► somebody think that it would be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► idea and would not get them fired too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► idea and would not get them fired too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► actually write this and circulate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► within the company like that reveals I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► think cultural problems in that company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► which should be a surprise to nobody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► some good aspects of culture to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► that the fact that he felt like he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► say this shows that they have a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► where people feel like they can express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► themselves now again like a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► where you can express yourselves doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► mean you could say you know what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► we should eat babies and be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► about people like gasp right here let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► give them back to the baby eating right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► it's good to have an open culture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► you also have to be aware of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► what people might think of what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► right and a lot of companies people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► would be afraid to say anything remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► about controversial but like at any HR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► policy like you know the HR policy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► like for example imagine apple gonna the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Apple Park thing like oh people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► gonna have as many offices right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► Apple had a culture where everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► terrified to make any kind of complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► about her I kind of wish we still had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► offices I don't want to be an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► office space right that would be a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► company culture you want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► company culture where if people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► super pissed about not having an office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► they feel like they can say hey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► want to lose my office Apple I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► like the new Apple Park and complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► right cuz that and just being a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► adult in the world you could understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► if you do it in a constructive way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► is a a reasonable avenue of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► within the company and a good company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► culture encourages people to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► because you don't want them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► secretly hating you and then quitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like you want you want to hear what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► employees have to say but if their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► complaint is I don't want to work next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► to a woman you should at least be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► enough to know if you say that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► gonna get rid of you because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► have an employee like that it's like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► is that any different from offices if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► you can't see the difference like start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► their finger what's different about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► saying I prefer offices to cubicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► versus I can't be next to a woman when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► work like figure it out like work on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► like I feel you know those are my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► and only comments about this which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► snarky granted but you know I'm allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► some snark on Twitter was like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► irony of someone at Google writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► memo who so clearly has not even done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► the most cursory google search on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► look at all these things he's citing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► were like no I mean actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► actually learning about the topic his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► Google's right there you can Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► yourself every one of these points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► find you know everything about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► why they're BS like everywhere instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► the only thing he googled for was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► know cherry picked things that he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► supports his ideas and that he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► string together into this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► broken chain of logic in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► anyway I don't know you can read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► links to I realize that but like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► it's right there like no time it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► been easier for you to educate yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► about this topic without having to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► led by the nose by people more versed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► the field like everything's right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► the person works for Google and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► know that that just blew my mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► you know sort of the the in curiosity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► and the being content and you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► the economists response the links we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► reasoning like that no amount of access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► to the world's information can avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► that yeah the thing that struck me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► this was the little bit of feedback we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► got about it which was a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► people saying please don't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► this but here's some anonymous feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► about why I think this guy was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► money this was amazing to me this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► like we actually got beautiful pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► feedback about from people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► basically yelling at us in support of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► this James whole before we ever talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► about it right right it just happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► and they knew in the future there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► be an episode of ATP recorded and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► said I know you're gonna want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► about this but don't well we did sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► there's you don't talk about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► here's what I think and and you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► anyone thinks otherwise that's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► that's them silencing us yadda yadda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► yadda blah blah blah it was it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► than what the thing was if it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► one individual okay fine but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► happened two or three times and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► the same thing both times please guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► don't talk about this but if you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► should consider the following my example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► of like the difference between I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► office instead of cubes versus I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► work next to a woman neither one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► those things in the memo I'm giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► hypothetical examples to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► different classes of things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► actually getting back to Marco's point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► like I think I think the fact this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► person felt free to say this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► reflection on Google's culture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► letting people feel like they are free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► to give feedback the fact that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► particular you know that are the to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► open discussions the content of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► shows it doesn't reflect poorly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► Google other than their hiring practices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► or not being aware that this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► happening and and you know like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► on the person who wrote the thing not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► much in Google if you want to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► blame on it's not the culture that let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► him post the memo because that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► understanding that other people exist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► the world and how they might react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► what you had to say right but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► true of a lot of tech companies that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► know the if the interview is all coding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► on a whiteboard and you know solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► brain teasers and making sure you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► good education and making sure you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► recently personable and polite and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► most critically making sure that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► people who you interview with say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► yeah I could work with this person yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► seems like a person because you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► people will say oh I could work in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► person he's just like me yeah I'm I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► dude who was a CS major who likes video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► games and blah blah yeah not like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► that's all there is in your interview is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► technical stuff and and brain teasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► and education and work history and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► you feel like you could work with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► person it's very easy to get into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► know - speaking of an echo chamber which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► in all other complaints this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► very easy to get into a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► people hire other people that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► comfortable with and so you may never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► dig deeper to say oh and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► again this is not in the memo this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► silly example that's supposed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► you you know realize anyway if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► any problem working on a team with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► maybe you can't ask that legally I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► even know like there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► weird things about hiring what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► and can't ask but figuring that out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► if the person says oh I would never work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► on a team with the woman don't hire that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► person right don't hire that person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► if you never figure out that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► again that's not that's not what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► person said I'm trying to give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► extreme example I know people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► hypothetical extreme example right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► you're not sort and figuring that out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► have an interview process that weeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► that out you'll never have a chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► waking up to much more subtle things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► which is like maybe this person has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► slightly less well examined ideas about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► gender and diversity and like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► think this person is super terrible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► heard they were vaguely involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► gamergate but who knows I'm the headman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► following this but anyway I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► ideas in this memo or ideas that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► of smart white dudes basically who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► never faced any sort of oppression based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► on their gender or a race end up having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► not because they're bad people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► they're evil or whatever but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► again there's a reason all these ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► have come up before it is not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► logical conclusion but it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► find yourself going down these alleys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► you find yourself having these thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► you find yourself coming to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► conclusions and especially if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► slightly rebellious bent there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► something for you to rebel against which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► is all these this diversity ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► like just there's a reason it's common I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► don't I don't think these people this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► person is you know an aberration or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► terrible person it's just they're they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► have they have some things to learn they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► have some living to do they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► experience to gain and it you are able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► to get that experience and live that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► life and learn and change because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► people who are on the other side of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► started out somewhere more like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► memo writer and changed and learn things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► like that they're not born like oh I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► perfect angel from the beginning and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► know everything and I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► prejudices and biases no especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► they're they are simply have similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► they had to walk that same road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► figure things out and stick their foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► in the mouth and do stupid stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► learn things the hard way right no we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► not super enlightened wonderful we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► everything in the beginning like my hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► for this person is that he grows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► evolves and you know comes you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► people mean to say that he grows up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► like it's part it's not he's an organ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► adult but you know just you don't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► growing up when you become quote/unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► throughout your whole life hopefully and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► that's that's my hope for this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► we are sponsored this week by fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► who prints your photos in vivid color on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► great little minimal sheets of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► visit fracture me calm slash podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► mention ATP so they know that you came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► from here fracture is a photo decor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► favorite images from the digital ether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► of these Facebook and Instagram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► other social feeds where you put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► pictures up there and then they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► gone after like a day you never see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► again get those photos printed and hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► them in your house or put them in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► office or give them as gifts they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► amazing gifts they had these awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► glass prints they print directly onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► the glass and they have a laser-cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► rigid backing so they're ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4168">TS</a>]
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01:11:38 ◼ ► have commentary on whether this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4298">TS</a>]
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01:11:52 ◼ ► for some reason appears on Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4312">TS</a>]
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01:15:50 ◼ ► an Apple product nope nope the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► can't be in Apple products some shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► have to be the opposite of an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4554">TS</a>]
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01:16:01 ◼ ► violence or they have to be goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► comedies you know or like things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► just don't fit in the Apple way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4567">TS</a>]
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01:16:12 ◼ ► you know like Disney or like Pixar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► have a brand and and put everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► under that umbrella but its competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► brands are in general content that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► expensive television made for adults so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► this that's kind of what Amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► Netflix and HBO have been doing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► all spending more money on it than Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► still but just fine like I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► getting started you know Netflix is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► budget is 7 billion compared to apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► budget of 1 billion I think that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► Apple should not be putting 7 billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► towards something it doesn't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► do yet right so you know figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► to do it Amazon's 4.5 billion is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► their estimates from this article will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► link in the show notes HBO is 2 billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► H was got a lot of bang for its buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► because they've they apparently really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► know how to develop shows they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► make a lot of shows but the ones they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► make a pretty good hit ratio and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► hits are really big hits I'm doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► for quite some time like they developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► a skill over a very long time yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► and you know it's a set it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► it's people it's it's sets different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► people who know different people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► know how to get things develop know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► to buy what not to buy know how to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► sure that the things produced in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► same way that Apple knows how to like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► I have an idea for product but how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► make that product what people that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► need to make that product a reality so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► that it actually works and what partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► do I have to do like it's a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► business um getting back to the broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► issue of this thing like the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► as we've discussed in the passes if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► Apple wants to be in this business of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► selling you video over the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► everybody else is doing it it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► important differentiator like eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► if everybody else has original content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► like this is why I get Hulu this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► I get Netflix like because of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► specific shows and Apple doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► differentiator like other than I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► a bunch of movie on iTunes and unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► go and you know remove the DRM oh I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► I need an Apple TV to to view them very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► quickly these streaming services have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► stopped being differentiated by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► that wow I can watch a video over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► internet cuz they can all do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► they all have clients if this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► thing all clients everywhere this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► question someone had on Twitter I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► maybe directed us or maybe someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► is like am I gonna need an Apple TV to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► watch this original TV content or will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► be able to watch it not on an Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► could I watch it in a web browser could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► I you know couldn't watch it is it built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► into my television and the answer so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► is haplin's apples been like well no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► can watch them your iPad your iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► your Apple TV no place else can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► watch it's not built into your TV you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► can't watch from a web browser you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► watch it on Windows and it's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► nobody else is doing that if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► everywhere you go like a Netflix on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► on your wristwatch I mean you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► it's everywhere nothing doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► Netflix on it that's the strategy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► you do if you want to compete so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► the other thing I'm looking for is will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► Apple go iPod on this and say yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► gonna make the iPod for Windows yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► we're gonna let you watch whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► they're gonna and I have to divorce her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► from Apple music obviously - because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► it's silly to continue with that charade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► right if they really want to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► their big competitors Netflix Amazon HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► Hulu everybody else who's got some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► of is funding some kind of original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► content table stakes is I can view it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► anywhere I want and the original content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► is actually worth getting the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► for and they've got a long way to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► get there someone pointed out that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► you can watch it on iTunes in Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► experience and we're all rooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► iTunes to die anyway right now I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► like this is one of those things - like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► for for this to succeed you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► have to really you know like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► saying like you this right now it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► like these original content efforts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► just he's kind of like side projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► that are a little bit promoted a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► bit funded a little bit prioritized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► they're kind of these things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► made to try to boost Apple music buzz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► and subscriptions which is totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► like that's not how you compete in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► music space you don't compete there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► video services that with with a two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► three original content lines like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► not at all how that works but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► like if Apple really wants to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► really do it like really go all-in make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► it a big thing maybe by somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► Netflix or HBO or something like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► go all out and really do it I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► don't see the value in kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► half butting it like they've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► seemingly so far like why do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► bit of this kind of buried in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► product that no one's looking for video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► in either don't do it or do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► because maybe like the slow start like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► don't know what the budget was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► but again 1 billion is a smaller budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► like they're they're obviously getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► serious about it and hot trying to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► more of the right people but it's a slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► start like they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► coming in on day one and said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► gonna put 10 billion dollars because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► they just blow it they blow that 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► billion they have no idea what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► with that money like it's not so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► the slow start would be better if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► actually good even if they're weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► appendages to Apple music but I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► Apple music thing I think it's learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► experience it who knows maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► carpool karaoke is gonna be insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► popular just because we don't watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► like I know what carpool karaoke is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► people seem to like it it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► even if it's not my particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► sometimes they're amusing right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► reality show was a flop but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► know reality some reality shows or hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► some aren't it wasn't it wasn't a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► idea they just did just blew it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► didn't do it they didn't make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► probably again because I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► they want to have some kind of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► news we're Apple what kind of synergy do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► we have with like no no energy Breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► Bad has no synergy but the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► fund it it's just a good show you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► need to make stuff that people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► watch and it's really really hard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► can't help you with it you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► how to do it either but hiring people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► who have done it in the past is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► start you know that's a difficulty about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► a lot of these things like again Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► very small teams small numbers of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► if one or two or three people you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► in charge of this with the most power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► are gonna have a big influence and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► you end up hiring the wrong people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► Papermaster situation or even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► just get like a forestall can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► along with I've and you have two can one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► of them it's you know these are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► companies with a lot of money at stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► but in the end it comes down to just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► small number of people so Marco you uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► blogged for the first time in forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► recently I'm very proud of you this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► very exciting does it yeah it counts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► turns out that market org is still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► thing it hadn't been a thing for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► three months but it is still a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► however Marco giveth and Marco taketh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► away what happened to send to watch an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► overcast basically I had to pull it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► already covered this pretty well both in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► the blog post and in under the radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► about two weeks ago so I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► cover it too much here but basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► was using a crazy hack that would allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► me to use good audio api's on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► watch and watch iOS for that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► work anymore so now the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► write this feature is to stop using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► good audio api's that allow my process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► to keep running and monitoring with AV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► audio player and the only way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► this happen now is to use the old WK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► audio file player watch playback API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► which basically is used in practice by I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► think almost nothing Apple doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► to use it for anything which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► why it's so incomplete and buggy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► it's it's it's a much larger more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► involves transferring control of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► playback to the system and your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► stops running in the background and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► occasionally maybe if you are lucky when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► things happen like the queue runs out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► the track is over or something else but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► that's about it it forces a certain type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► of interaction with the now playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► glance that does not work at all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► podcasts it makes it very bad experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► if you hit the seek forward button it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► immediately stops playing the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► podcast and either move to the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► if there is one or just stops its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► instead of like skipping forward 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► seconds or whatever like you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► want things like that there's all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► of little shortcomings like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► API was designed for music it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► clearly designed so that somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► something could make a sync to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► watch feature and have the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► play a playlist of music when you apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► the same API to podcasts there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► many shortcomings and bugs and weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► behavior to the system that are just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► at all a podcast listeners want or need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► that it makes for a very bad experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► so early on when I was developing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► sin to watch feature I was basing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► this API because this seemed to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► only way to do it and I actually decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► to not ship it like I spent months on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and after fighting with his API over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► over again I decided it was so bad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► can't ship this feature so I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► found a bunch of bugs I you know talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► to people and Apple to make sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► knew about them and everything and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► know how many apps are using this of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► the of all the needs that watch OS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► like this might satisfy like ten apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► maybe like almost nobody needs this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► feature so I can understand why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► doesn't seem to be a priority for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► to to really improve audio playback API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► was in the launch especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► this one probably works ok enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► music syncing so it's really only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► podcast an audiobook another long-form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► audio syncing they would actually need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► this my hack but that allowed me to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► a the audio player allowed me to ship a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► minimally acceptable it still wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► problems with the feature like how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► it takes to transfer data how I as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► as like basically as the programmer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► that therefore you as the user don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► have any indication of whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► transfers in progress or how long it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► going to take like the reason that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► exposed in the UI is that I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► that information the API doesn't provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► that information so there's there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► sorts of shortcomings in the api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► the technical limitations of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► understandable because most of us show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► like yeah you know what the watch is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► our device you know it needs to squeeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► every bit of power it can out of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► know tiny little parts and batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► that it has most of these are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► understandable things but the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► it was barely possible to make a barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► acceptable version of this feature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► now that the audio API has changed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► has forced me to go back to the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► that I deemed unship well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► probably nine months ago when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► tried to do this that is now that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► now made this feature unship evil again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► unfortunately I've already shipped it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► so I had to remove this feature and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► that's never easy that's never an easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► it's not a very popular thing to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► know I'm getting you know a good number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► of one-star reviews from it which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► expected you know that was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► calculus to do it I had to weigh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► but you know I removed the feature now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► and if I can bring it back in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► you know as the api's and the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► mature I would love to do that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► already wrote most of the hard stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► do this but there is simply no good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► to play podcasts in the background on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► the Apple watch in watch OS 4 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► hopefully that'll change over time do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► you have any hopes of them changing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► like maybe if Apple heads offline watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► play backup podcast to their podcast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► do you know do you have any info like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► you know not this release this release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► you're stuck but next year they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► updating always the API is to be podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► savvy because I guess or not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► not obscure like it seemed not they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► obviously not as important as music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► right but in this release they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► thing lets you mess with the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► during your workout in an easier way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► controlling audio playback on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► watches so do you think next year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► know do you have expectations that wo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► receive like Oh new API is that make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► possible to do this again or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► addressing this because it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► like a thing they care about well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► limitations so with with the new like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► music syncing there's been much choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► for they demoed during the keynote that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► there's this kind of like new automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► music syncing kind of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► where it just kind of automatically can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► can like sync a playlist you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► you based on what you like a basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► where else and so I think the real like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► the way this seems to work is overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► while it's charging on the charger it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► doing these data transfers that are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► could be large and time-consuming so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► that way doesn't have to worry about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► know speed being low or about using too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► much power for a podcast like feature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► work that's probably how it really has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► to be because you know problem number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► one which I never solved was it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► slow to transfer data to to the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► and it all sorts of crazy hacks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► I've heard a whole transcoding engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► that would Transco to a lower bitrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► and then send it because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► actually faster than just sending it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► begin with you know its original size so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► solving that speed problem that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► problem and it's going to take I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► multiple generations probably of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► hardware being improved before that's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► longer a big problem so as long as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► transfer the watch is still slow syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► podcasts to it is always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► awkward or clunky these podcasts don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► work the same ways music with music you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► can sync a playlist overnight and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► it you're done like you're probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► going to want to change that like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► middle of the day by sending all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► sudden 60 Meg's of new information to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► that you really want to be available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► right the second right now whereas with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► podcast that happens an episode comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► out like you know if this worked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► same way that we that have worked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► iPod days back when podcast first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► out a decade ago the idea of an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► coming out and then you having to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► till you got home to sync it to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► iPod and listen to it maybe the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► that was how we did things back then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► now things are better now we don't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► in you know the Stone Age anymore now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► when a new episode comes out you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► to be able to hit play immediately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► start playing it and so to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► with to have that kind of experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► with the watch with podcasts the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► you you can't wait for it to sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► overnight you can't wait for like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► next I'm I plug in the watch I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► kind of system to automatically sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► stuff over while charging overnight like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► that that's not a good enough experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► what you need is something that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► say I want to listen to this right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► go and have it be not a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► amount of time before you can do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► think long-term the way this is solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► is the watch becomes a full-blown client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► it's own downloads and its own sync to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► the servers and is no longer you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► tethered to the phone app as much as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► is now long term that is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► right solution but that requires large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► advances in the hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► before that's possible you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► would require first of all the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► rumored cellular watch or at least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► know more frequent Wi-Fi connectivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► whatever you know that would require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► things that we don't have today really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► to do that to that very well the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► thing is on the software side I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► know the the fine detail of this in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► I bet Steve trout and Smith probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► knows a lot more about this than I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► when when you write apps for the i phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► module using are the exact same API that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► Apple uses the incentive is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► strong for Apple to keep those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► up-to-date because they use them too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► if there's like a bug in UI kit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► probably gonna affect Apple also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► their own apps and their own development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► so they have a pretty strong incentive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► developers have only have only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► access to watch kit we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► straight UI kit it seems I think I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► positive on this but I think Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► using lower level api's Apple seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► be using something like UI kit to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► developers are using this kind of subset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► then that we're kind of being forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► use and we can't use like the real API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► is and the watch and so what we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► using Apple doesn't seem to have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► strong incentive to fix what we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► because I don't think they're using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► and especially like the the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► playback API is that you know the what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► limitations and bugs that they have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► don't think Apple uses any of them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► the watch that we use like I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► don't like at Apple is probably using AV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► foundation directly on the watch but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► don't have access to that in any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► way that would that we can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► background on the watch we only have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► grant access to some of those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► background access to this awful wk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► audiophile player thing that has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► bugs so until that changes like until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► until apples using the same things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► are using on the watch I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► amazing development platform to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► type of apps like a podcast player I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► hope that changes I really do but so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► that's it seems like we are using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► kind of these kind of like you know baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► API is these like training wheel a P I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► is in the watch that existed at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► because it was just so limited and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► low powered and like the first watch kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► was this huge hack that were the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► around the phone and was kind of beamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► over so like it made sense then a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► bit but now like I want real API access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► in the watch I want I want like low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► full-blown audio frameworks and exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► what we have on the phone in regards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► like you know what I mentioned earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► are like about how in in when the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► crazy API if a user hits next track or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► forward it just stops a podcast if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► playing in the background like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► podcast player on the watch can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► what we've done on iOS for ages which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► interpret the remote control event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► manually interpret the event that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► sent from a headphone clicker or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► lock screen or your car Bluetooth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► whatever that says next track and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► instead of doing next track on iOS we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► can say oh we'll just move it forward 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► seconds or we can respond whoever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► want to that on the watch none of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► api's are there we have no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► interact with the remote controls we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► have no way to set what appears on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► now playing scream beast besides a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► very limited thing with this crazy watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► with this crazy audio player API you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► kind of set it but then it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► unreliable even basic stuff I found like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► if you hit pause it doesn't pause like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► it's half a time like it just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► seconds after you hit play or pause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► button flips over back the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► it's like crazy stuff it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► work every time I've worked against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► those api's I have felt like I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► first person to ever have used them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► to answer your the actual question you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► asked me 25 minutes ago I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► eventually hopefully become possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► write a good standalone podcast player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► on the watch but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► coming soon because too much has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► mature we need hardware advancements for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► the four you know battery and power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► data transfer speeds we need all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► things to improve we need the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► for apps to actually stay running in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► background you know as they're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► audio not just do what watch OS tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► do now and and you know kill us in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► standalone file player that's run by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► system like no we need what we have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► the phone basically the phone had us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► very long time ago so maybe we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► that far off who knows but whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► is we need API parity in a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► areas between the watching the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► not only do we not have that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► almost feels like Apple doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► do that in the watch it seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► exposure we need right now and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► know if that's an ideological thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► if that's reacting to limitations of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► current hardware either way that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► change and that's that's a big change so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► I don't expect for it to be soon so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► if you got I'm trying to think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► minimal stuff that you would need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► this because it's gonna it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► while before you get like full access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► the api's that allies if ever if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► just got cell data and the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► run in the background at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► you could make a very simple streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► only player that communicates with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► that pulls the data from wherever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► the podcast is and that communicates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► with your server in a lightweight way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► keep sort of the timestamp updated right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► because if you is that's not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► heavy background work you're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► know pull it pulling data for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► podcast you know you have plenty of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► to slurp it up when your connection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► good and then just sleep for a while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► know whatever it's the input of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► audio data is fine and you've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► communicate with your server a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► bit every you know you do it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► minute who knows like just say Oh update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► position or whatever and then I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► minimal interface the controls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► understand what you you know how to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► control over when you get the next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► previous to do something different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► than doing something ridiculous and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► I think you know I know this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► entire section is about offline watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► playback but this I think would fulfill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► all the needs like I don't need to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► my phone with me I can just wear my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► watch and I can listen to my podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► but mostly getting it with it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► expectation today if you had any inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► presumably Apple will eventually on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► things that we want to add to the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► get to the point where people like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► people do like to listen to music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► their watch they also would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► probably listen to podcasts and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► watch they know how many people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► to podcasts they have their stats for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► the podcast app that comes bundled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► your phone podcasts are a thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► not as big as music eventually I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► Apple will get around to the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► like oh it's silly that you can't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► to podcasts and your watch without your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► phone with you especially now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► have the second generation of this watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► with sell day access right so they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► get to it eventually so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► there's hope for you you're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► like swinging in the wind we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► they're just never gonna get to me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► don't know what the timeline looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► on that it's um it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► tell how much Apple cares about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► podcast sometimes well it's also this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► the kind of feature that and believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► everyone's and lots of these if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► people if they want this feature a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► certain number of them will say yes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► course I want that feature or certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► I'm or the MOL email you be without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► you've asked you saying please I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► this feature but then if you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► give it to them the the number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► who actually use it is all usually or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► not often for some of these features way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► way lower than than what they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► usability like I remember when I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► to send it to the watch it's not easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► just figure out even how to do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► then when you do figure out how to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► the fact that it doesn't work that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► will discourage people from using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► sure and and I think a lot of people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► that same experience with playing music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► on the watch through Apple's apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► it the reason they had to do this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► kind of overnight automatic syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► thing with watch OS 4 is because before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► that when you had to kind of manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► picked up to sync over than wait you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► know forever for transfer that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► terrible it was so bad most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► didn't do it even now on the watch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► find the playback experience even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► even if you can get the data there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► the playback and control experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► the watch is a really rough compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► what you have on the phone again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► goes back to my thing of never bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► against the smart phone the smart phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► is really good at this stuff it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► very rare that I do something on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► watch to interact with a podcast that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► at all non-trivial that I don't regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► not doing it not just taking out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► phone and doing it there like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► doing something like you know skip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► the next chapter fine take up take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► fast if that's you know if you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► with your walking on me that's fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► like for anything anything non-trivial I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► find it very hard to do anything on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► watch and not even just with audio in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► general and and so and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► lots of other overcast features where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► like people have asked for it or wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► it some of the things I haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► released because like like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► the the Sonos integration I right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► there's as I mentioned I think somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► on Twitter is when there's an API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► limitation that basically makes it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► opinion not good enough to ship sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► sound familiar so I'm not shipping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► but I found in my testing of the Sonos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► integration it was not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► experience and I mostly just preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► to have podcast playing through my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► speaker sitting on the counter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► eventually upgraded to an iPad pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► big speakers in it so that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► like and so like an iPad pro on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► counter is by far the best way to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► podcasts out in the open at home by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► long shot it's way better than so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► it's way better than echo it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► way better experience and because pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► you don't like you don't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6058">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► podcast the same way listen to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► there's a lot more interaction involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► and you have different like you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► look at if somebody mentions a link you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► want to look at the show notes if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► know you might want to seek around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► little bitter or look at a chapter list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► or skip ahead or skip commercials or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► whatever else like there's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► interaction with podcast than when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► have with music so like these systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► that are designed for music playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► when you try to play podcast them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► something could be awesome but trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► when you actually get it it's not nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► as good as just using your phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► using an iPad that's you know sitting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► on the counter so there's a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► features and I think watch playback is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► just one of these things that the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► of interacting with the watch it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► limited the software so limited the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► hardware the ergonomics are so limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► because it's such a tiny little device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► don't think it's ever gonna be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► experience to play and manage podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► something that people will ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► forever and some people will use it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► question you know I'm not saying nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► will use it but I'm saying very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► people will even if it's done well like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► even you know even if I do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► right and even if the harbor gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► things a little bit faster I still don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► think it's going to be a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► experience compared to used taking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► your phone and doing it there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► you said something earlier Marco about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► the potential for an LTE equipped watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► and I was on clockwise earlier today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► that was actually the question I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► up is hey if would you be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► an LTE equipped watch and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► why or why not and and not to rehash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► that too much but what I was saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► you know I've been running a few times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► week lately and we'll see how long that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► sticks but it's been sticking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► for a while now it's been a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► months and it occurred to me recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► that the part of the reason I bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► phone when I run is because if I were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► somehow really injure myself I'd really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► want to be able to call like Aaron or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► you know an ambulance if it really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► that bad and if I had a watch that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► the mechanism by which I could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► you know it was presumably you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► LTE although I saw some rumblings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► earlier today saying that maybe it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► be data only and not not permit phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► calls but either way if I had a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► that could call for help someway somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► then maybe I wouldn't need to bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► phone with me which would be nice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► wouldn't have to you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► currently I carry it I don't have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► those peculiar arm bands or anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► it occurred to me Wow you know it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► be really great to be able to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► my podcasts on my crap so I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► am NOT one that had used the send to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► watch feature in overcast while it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► there but I I am on a series zero watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► and I think I'll probably upgrade this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► year and yeah it would be pretty cool if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► that came back so count me in is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► those people that's looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► you somehow figuring out a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► this work again presumably with API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► changes by the way Steve Brown Smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► actually gave us the name of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► that Apple's apps used on the watch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► the tradition of weird internal Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► names I mean springboards kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► too but the weird code games like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► where's the watch like code name gizmo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► watch kit runs on top of pepper UI core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► like you know black pepper and pepper UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► like it how do you know it isn't about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► bell peppers I don't know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► maybe Chris pepper yeah couldn't be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► to correct your typos for you mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► joke with an audience of seven people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► thanks for sponsors this week fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► and aftershocks and we'll see you next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► accidental URL is s so that's Casey less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6289">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► and a are Co AR m and T Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► I have some bike follow-up ah excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► what's a year I saw your bike in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► tips bike and I couldn't figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► that was your I'm gonna buy the bike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► I don't like I'm gonna give it to TIFF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► or was an entirely separate dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► TIFF bike it so well it was the bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► that I was buying for probably TIFF I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► was gonna see if I liked it and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► that's kind of why I bought it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► like I was going to use my opinion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► that to inform what I was going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► priority Coast priority is a they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► to be a pretty good bike company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► they they're a new york-based company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► they starting Kickstarter and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► have they do all belt drive bikes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► mentioned last year that I like the belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► drive for the lack of maintenance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► better you know everything so I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► belt drive and that's when I wanted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► priority coast is their beach cruiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► kind of thinking I don't think I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► be screwed I think I wanted like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► little bit more like a forward position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► like I've I always enjoyed mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► bikes more than most other things most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► other bike shapes I guess and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► that kind of like kind of for position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► with the straight bars and the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► brakes and everything like I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► that better I think but you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► a beach town and and every literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► every other bike in town except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► cop bikes are beach cruisers even one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► the cops has a beach cruiser the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► have mountain bikes but anyway so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► thought that I should probably try that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► so we did and it is a little bit big for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► me which I kind of expected going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► it so it's a little bit big and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► don't like the coaster break it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► seems like a beach cruiser thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► all beach cruisers have that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► where you pedal backwards to break the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► I've taken that bike out a few times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► I just could not get into the coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► brake it also it has the the coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► brake seemingly I was like the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► break and then it also has a front only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► hand brake and that to me was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► confusing I think if this was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► I would actually remove the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► handbrake because to have like half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► one method of breaking but the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► method of breaking be the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► like it was just very confusing it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► I wanted that on there because coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► brakes suck and if you need to stop I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► don't want you to die because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► coaster brakes can't stop you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► right I mean it really is this friction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► boy even if the coaster brakes could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► lock up the back wheel you will stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► faster if you could also do something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► stop the front wheel so I that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► a bad idea to get a bike with coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► brakes and remove I've just seen bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► with hand brakes that only have the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► hand brake like you need you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► something pinching both the front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► back wheels because you need both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► emergency so don't don't do that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► and and you know my needs here are lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► because it again like because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► all like sidewalks full of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► you're riding on but there's no roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► there's like these broad sidewalks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► they're all full of people and wagons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► and stuff so like you actually can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► that fast most of the time so a deer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► that yeah that actually is a concern or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► fox or deers get deers gonna hit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► yeah that's more like more like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► anyway so so that was fine I then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► lots of research and waffling as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► know I'm I'm prone to do I decided you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► know yeah right so I am now driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► just for John oh my god oh my god it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► another it's also priority it's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► basically their like high-end road bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► I have some issues with it it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► road bike like a road bike it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► it's like it's a commuter bike so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► like it's not like a racing like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► the handlebars don't have like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► like dip down new shapes road bike is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► term of art sorry it's like a tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► be type thing but not fun for the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► skinny tires yeah it's a commuter bike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► have some issues with it their fenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► are pretty low quality on both of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► bikes and they rattle a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► even even when they're tightened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► everything the fenders are also slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► asymmetrical which is I can't tell if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► it's intentional or not like they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► just kind of crooked so I'm probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► gonna remove the fenders because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► just kind of are annoying me and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► think in retrospect this was a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► choice for a beach town because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► high pressure tires and while that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► a well paved road when you're commuting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► to work I guess there's a reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► every other bike I pass in the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► town has these like 2 inch wide cruiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► tires like there's a reason for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► and so when you're riding along these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► walks that are all I think the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► concrete you know it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► riding on an old sidewalk so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► you're going bump a bump a bump a bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► like as you go like you just hit you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► feeling every bump and and on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► tires you feel it a lot so I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► I think I might go to the bike guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► town and see if he can like see if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► has any larger tires that would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► fit these rims did I make it too big of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► a project but and the seat is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► sitting on a rock like they call it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► priority comfort seat or saddle I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► they call them bike people call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► saddles for some reason I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► what part of this is comfortable exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► but it's certainly not the part that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► butt is sitting on so I have to fix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► as well fortunately as an easy fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► there's a lot make sure you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► prostate friendly one I was not aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► there was a difference the one you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► is like you know you're distinguished by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► like there being a big split in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► middle you're like why is this seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► split in half yeah yeah it has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► little hole in the middle right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► sometimes they just give a suggestion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► a crease there which I feel like doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► help and sometimes there's actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► air gap there but anyway you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► okay good noted so I so I have that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► probably you probably want for you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► sensitive to see like a gel seat or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► other thing that's squishy yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► like the the the old rusted-out mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► beforehand that only technically has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► that one has like an aftermarket gel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► seat on it and that that was always fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► for me so I mean I heard someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► Amazon that was well reviewed we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► how it goes when it gets here in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► because thanks here from Amazon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► tricky anyway so you know replacing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► see that otherwise it's very nice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► really love disc brakes this is my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► time I've ever ridden a bike that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► difference over the regular like V style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► calipers that go on the rim it stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► like on a dime it's amazing so big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► handling of the shape of the bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► although again the tires are way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► skinny so I'm going to work on that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► and the CVT is amazing like it shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► be as good as it is but it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► really really nice when one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► advances and and there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► gear hubs that do this too you can shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► at you know even even when you're at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► stop you can still shift so if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► going in a high gear have to stop really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► fast and don't time it like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► shit'll be back down doesn't matter just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► twist the handle you're in the low gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► you just go because it's the CVT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► because you can just kind of twist as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► often as you like on that gear and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► interval you like I find myself shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► way more than I wouldn't are on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► derailleur style bike I wouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► it's necessary like I'd be fine with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► geared setup or even with a fixed gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► for most of the time I ride here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► it's really nice to have this that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► you can like you know if I'm slowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► down for a turn or something I I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► kind of you know kind of automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► kind of started you know going into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► lower gears and then moving back out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► like as I pedals going back up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► really cool actually sure you do rev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► flip the pedal literally yeah so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► it was probably not the best bike to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► for the beach because of it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► hard ride that's obviously designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► smooth roads and not ya know shot it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► it seems like shocks are passe in fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► bikes it's like nobody wants to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► shocks anymore well for mountain bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► you need them or anything that's not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► uneven terrain you need it for not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► good not just for comfort but also for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► control I also it's been so since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► recorded I also got curious about sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► bikes or fat bikes as bike people seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► to call them the ones that have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► five inch wide giant sand tires those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► you occasionally see those around here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► and I thought that could be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► then I could ride past the crazy point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► of woods fence and I could expand my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► horizons into in the directions so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► could like I had to get more distance if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► so I spent since we last recorded about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► researching fat bikes and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► try looking around for places that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► could maybe rent one or try one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► wasn't until about two days ago that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► learned that my neighbor has one and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► showed me how to use it on the sand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► I've run on saying you were run on sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► yeah that's not fun either I knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► I did not realize to what degree it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► be challenging so I get out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► this is like it's a perfect setup like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► it's pretty low tide he's showing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► exactly where on the sand to ride like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► so it's like optionally pat optimally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► packed down slightly damp but not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► super wet sand you know so you're and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► and the bike has like these large 5-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► low-pressure tires so you know so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► it's the ideal setup really like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► it would be hard to find a better setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► than the setup I had and so I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► started going and for about the first 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► feet or so I'm like this is easy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► was I what was I so concerned about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► is this is nothing and then after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► know as you keep going you're like wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► a minute like I have to maintain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► level of resistance like indefinitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► well got like it's not like a quick hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► where like you go up the hill and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► you're flat for a while then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► coast for a while you have like low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► resistance no it's like to keep moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► it's like you're going up a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► sizable hill all the time so I I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► something like two or three hundred feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► before like are done like I can't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► but back to him I'm like alright thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► like this this ride is either gonna save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► me a $50 rental fee from the place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► town or it's gonna cost me $1,000 to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► one of these bikes for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► ever I didn't buy the thing you're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► you're researching isse and bikes though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► of course I research the Eastern bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► but because those are only about 1,500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► but but I only honestly that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► compared to the price of ebikes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► price of sand bikes that actually is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► really good it's but anyway the my issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► with those is like what's the point then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► like the whole reason I'm riding is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► exercise and and getting myself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► like the challenge of it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► the the e bike thing I think makes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► sense if you're doing like commuting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► some other reasons why you're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► besides just like the exercise value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► like if you were a delivery person using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► using a bike or if you're if you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► ride between these towns and you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► go on the beach - right between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► certain ones like for your job or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► something that'd be a different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► then that would make more sense but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► my purposes as like this is mainly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► exercise any bike is it kind of misses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► the point I think well what about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► exploring this at this point that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► want to explore beyond a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► that you hadn't gone beyond before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► want to find in new places to get Lyme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► exploring in areas where previously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► would've been too tired to get to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► think a more responsible thing to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► to just keep biking until I'm strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► enough to do the sand bike thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► like that is that is what I should do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► probably isn't what I will do but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► what I should do just walk you just walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► on the beach walk in the sand feet work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► really well no that's what are you crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► so something somehow we go up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► the beaches on Long Island we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► bikes just make sure you bring shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► sand is hot it is pretty frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► occasionally see somebody with a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► and bike drive-by as you're on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► yeah so anyway what I ideally still want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► is basically what I mentioned last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► was my high-end option the the bud Nets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► bicycle the model 3 or number 3 I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► getting their names with Tesla's names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► because they have some the begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► model and something begin with number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► anyway I want the button the button it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► number three and I will probably end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► ordering one of those for home and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► maybe next summer I'll get one for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► beach but we'll see because the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► is almost over and you can't get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► like there they're made button they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► made to order so like it takes a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► weeks to get them so it's too late for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► this summer anyway but I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► what I want here is basically a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► SPECT bike that also has wide tires but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► not quite sand tire wide where are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► gonna ride it at home on streets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► there like paths you can go on mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► streets but there also is I live near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► I would probably write on that lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7138">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► people do there's also nearby bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► trails then I have to become like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► person who like puts their bike on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► car and brings it places and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► might get there sometime I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► but I don't know anything about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► world yet and so I'm a little resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► to that but you know what one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► think I might get into this is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► is actually I've only told you about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► of the three bikes that I've bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► the third one word was the tiny version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► which I bought for my son because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► also sell priority also sells the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► priority start which is a tiny belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► drive fancy bike made by hipsters in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► York I'm sure I'm sure he appreciates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► expensive fancy bike it first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► compared to other well rated kids bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► it was surprisingly inexpensive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► every that the bike that everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► told us to get which was the isla our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► Islip bike I love Mike whatever however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► you pronounce that that's like 400 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► fifteen so compared to those that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► I could also get this quickly that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► pretty cheap yeah if I go this is real I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► mean the problem with these kids lice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► a throw away by clay he's gonna grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► three inches in the next two weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► it's like up now he's too big for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► bike cuz you know it's like kids clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► yeah well fortunately he got we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► 16 inch size and he is like he's barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► tall enough to make it now so that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► he has the most time to actually use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► before he gets too tall for it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► a pretty well SPECT bike like it has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► has dual hand brakes like you know real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► vibrate on both wheels not a coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► brake and it has the carbon belt instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► of the chain cuz once he saw tips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► then my and we and he have he asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► explained why it's superior and so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► course he wanted one so now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► three people riding priority of bikes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► he isn't quite gotten it yet but I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► within the next few days he'll he'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► damn the training wheels on or off off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► two minutes another thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► periscope I don't learn to ride just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► just run but run behind him and hold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► seat and you're like oh that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► do it yeah so that's it we have being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► Tiferet we're doing that today earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► he it was this is the very first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► tried it so we got it we got slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► far but we didn't we didn't quite get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► far enough today to float let go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► more than a second or two so and well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► think we'll privacy over the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► days and probably probably by next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► he could be riding a bike I was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► joking that's not how you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► your head do that stuff the way my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► father did it to me but that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► worst way to do the way it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► done is the way you're already doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► you give him the scoot bike so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► learned set of balance and he'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► on his own yeah so he's I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► basically all study we just used this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► like a scoot bike but then picks both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► his feet up and puts them on the pedals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► instead of just holding them up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► air then it starts pedaling he's off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► the races yeah we're getting there this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► which one the number three yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► well that's they're actually known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► their like cool artistic frame and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► no no CVT you're gonna be spoiled by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► CVT and then you're gonna come to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► and it's like 11 gears that's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► actually I already asked them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► they actually would do a CVT if I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► it but yeah no I mean it's because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► seems like it what I actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► is a road version of a mountain bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► yeah that's what this looks like except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► for the front frame and so with the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► know this gives me you know high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► parts like it has like good brakes good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► gearing options the carbon belt you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► it like nice stuff and a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► mountain bike a slightly Rohde kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► hybrid riding position and wide tire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► support and it looks cool and oh and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► also has the other things I like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► minimal branding like so many of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► bikes have just the giant names all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► the place and it's just ugly ascend so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► you know stuff like that like they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► some pretty good work so the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► feel about sand bike tires is the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► feel about tires that are the width of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► this thing like a dude that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► it's just a huge amount of unnecessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► friction as soon as I stop pedaling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► we're all these tyres slowing me down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► like regenerative braking they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► had the model II actually is one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► were interesting the e bikes have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► seen to it it's all in the rear hub like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► there's no battery on the frame or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► anything like it's just all it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► rear hub that happens to include like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► radial battery around the center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► there are things you see the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► can add to it just any bike and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► slap it on the wheel is lots of clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► yeah the Helvetica one was I called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► because a bunch of them see something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► wheel anyway that I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► hideous the thing you could just add any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► of them yeah well but no again like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► get an e bike it would definitely be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► home not for here because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► place where like there are giant Hills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► in my neighborhood and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► reasons I have not gotten a bike yet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► home is that I assumed there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► there's no way to recently ride a bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► in my neighborhood because there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7437">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► many hills there is come on I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► show you I I don't think any Hill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► your neighborhood is as big as I went up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► in a bike with no gears couldn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► gears down to first gear to get up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► but you had one gear in the Mongoose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► that was it and I powered my way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► those cells all the time because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► how you got to your friends there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► gear both ways there's more dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► goin down the hills they have topology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► let's see if I can find nothing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► like as as my kid gets into biking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► suspect that a good thing to do will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► for me to go with him biking even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► something at home that could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► pretty well is probably a good idea no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► no no no topology way to go 3d 3d that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► not very 3d the hell this road is flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► this road is not flat every time I see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► mongoose around town I think of you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► know it's a different company now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7495">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► they actually have what seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► fairly a popular fat tire bike - and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► not talking about you know the blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► mist I'm talking about you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► sand bike size tires the I see there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► lot like a lot of the sand bikes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► town or the ones that are kind of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► seems to be a class of bike around here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► that had its they're not quite wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► enough or not knobby enough to be sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► tires but they're just radicular it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► like flat rubber tires on bikes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► look like they might have cost two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► dollars out of the Walmart discount bin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► it's very very strange but I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7528">TS</a>]
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02:05:42 ◼ ► childhood home like I've seen from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► air they cut down all the trees to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► this hideous swimming pool like taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► up the entire backyard giant hideous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► liver the whole backyard is paved over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► with this terrible swimming pool in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7552">TS</a>]
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02:06:00 ◼ ► plan buy back your old house and fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7560">TS</a>]
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02:06:07 ◼ ► the trees they cut down so many trees so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► many big full-grown trees they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► having them in the back but just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► cut down so many trees oh you can I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► if you save enough money you totally can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► buy full-grown trees I know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► there's a the the guy Shaw there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► some guy named Shaw who like invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► the hedge fund or something and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► building a large house down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► basically at the edge of my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► they've actually trucked in full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► trees have you ever seen a tree on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:36 ◼ ► flatbed truck that's what Apple did for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7596">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► they have a park thing yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7598">TS</a>]
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02:06:44 ◼ ► to get a full size tree shipped to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► house I'm planted I'm guessing it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7606">TS</a>]
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02:06:52 ◼ ► dollars a pop all right maybe 10 10 kpop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7612">TS</a>]
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02:06:57 ◼ ► flat but it's on like the oversized load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► trucks they bring houses on yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► got the big Spade they get the big Spade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► thing that's containing the root ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► and all the dirt yeah yeah there's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7624">TS</a>]
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02:07:10 ◼ ► even imagine like take it out like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► like it's like a thing from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7632">TS</a>]
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02:07:17 ◼ ► like city 17 these giant metal things go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► in chicken they all go underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► thing and they all go down meet in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► middle and it tears up the tree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► cool yeah I didn't see that part but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► even just seeing the truck go down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► the main thoroughfare in our town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► park next to this giant darshan project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:35 ◼ ► with this giant tree lying down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7655">TS</a>]
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02:07:44 ◼ ► space but maybe plan for like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7664">TS</a>]
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02:07:57 ◼ ► swimming pool that's just as awkwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7677">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► shaped it's not the right place like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► it's a house on the corner and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► swimming pool is like instead of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► tucked away from where people are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7686">TS</a>]
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02:08:19 ◼ ► mean maybe they didn't change that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:21 ◼ ► much I don't know but they sell it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7701">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► never have an open house I should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► down there and look at what the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► they're doing Oh totally no God yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7705">TS</a>]
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02:08:35 ◼ ► idea I haven't changed the outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► the house they've kept all the gross 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQzWYGY/7717">TS</a>]
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