Top Four

00:00:00 ◼   ► you know it's the summertime it is time

00:00:02 ◼   ► for vacations for a lot of people

00:00:04 ◼   ► especially August especially August yeah

00:00:06 ◼   ► August is like I think the top vacation

00:00:08 ◼   ► month according to the zero research I

00:00:10 ◼   ► did before the show about that but but

00:00:13 ◼   ► you know there are some vacations a

00:00:14 ◼   ► vacation I feel like is a relative term

00:00:17 ◼   ► it's a thing that you can do but the

00:00:20 ◼   ► things that people choose to do whether

00:00:23 ◼   ► they consider that a vacation or not it

00:00:25 ◼   ► seems to vary person by person you know

00:00:27 ◼   ► but even that sometimes you go on

00:00:29 ◼   ► vacation and when you get home you feel

00:00:31 ◼   ► like you need a vacation from your

00:00:32 ◼   ► vacation yeah exactly like some

00:00:35 ◼   ► vacations are just exhausting and some

00:00:38 ◼   ► of them are really actually not very fun

00:00:40 ◼   ► or not very relaxing you know that very

00:00:42 ◼   ► naked lady song never is enough yeah

00:00:47 ◼   ► never wanna do that stuff well hearing a

00:00:51 ◼   ► lot of our friends and family and loved

00:00:54 ◼   ► ones talk about their vacations just

00:00:56 ◼   ► sometimes make us say yeah I'm never

00:01:00 ◼   ► doing that is plenty of doing that for

00:01:02 ◼   ► me and I'm super happy that they enjoyed

00:01:06 ◼   ► their vacations as you should but we

00:01:10 ◼   ► would like to make a list of our top for

00:01:12 ◼   ► vacation nightmares or nightmare

00:01:15 ◼   ► vacations I guess

00:01:16 ◼   ► or nightmare vacations and some of mine

00:01:18 ◼   ► too are things that I actually have done

00:01:20 ◼   ► yeah I mean fact I've done most of these

00:01:24 ◼   ► and I don't want to do them again

00:01:25 ◼   ► exactly

00:01:28 ◼   ► yeah because you know it's for me like a

00:01:30 ◼   ► vacation for me is I mean something like

00:01:33 ◼   ► everybody wants different things out of

00:01:35 ◼   ► their vacation some people want to do as

00:01:37 ◼   ► little as possible some people want to

00:01:39 ◼   ► travel as much as possible and and

00:01:41 ◼   ► sightsee when they travel and and or do

00:01:44 ◼   ► things like have big adventures when

00:01:47 ◼   ► they travel stuff like that and for and

00:01:49 ◼   ► you know for other people the the ideal

00:01:51 ◼   ► vacation is just like just staying in

00:01:54 ◼   ► their house doing as little as possible

00:01:55 ◼   ► doing nothing some people want to want

00:01:58 ◼   ► to or need to bring their kids or their

00:02:00 ◼   ► pets and some people that's the last

00:02:02 ◼   ► thing they want to do and and so there's

00:02:04 ◼   ► a huge variety of like what people

00:02:06 ◼   ► actually want out of a vacation so

00:02:09 ◼   ► anyway so this is this is not to insult

00:02:12 ◼   ► anyone elses

00:02:13 ◼   ► vacation preferences this is gonna be

00:02:15 ◼   ► just like the things that we really are

00:02:18 ◼   ► not interested in doing do you think at

00:02:19 ◼   ► this point people are really insulted by

00:02:21 ◼   ► our opinions I guess we probably lost

00:02:23 ◼   ► them a long time ago yeah I think the

00:02:25 ◼   ► people that get easily insulted have has

00:02:27 ◼   ► switched us off probably so anyway so

00:02:31 ◼   ► for those of you who are left and not

00:02:32 ◼   ► yet insulted prepare to be insulted so

00:02:35 ◼   ► here you go we're gonna we're gonna

00:02:36 ◼   ► trash everything you like to do oh sorry

00:02:39 ◼   ► not sorry we don't want to do it it's

00:02:42 ◼   ► our idea of vacation it's not ideal

00:02:46 ◼   ► vacations in general because we did not

00:02:49 ◼   ► take all vacations like we ate all the

00:02:51 ◼   ► ice cream and just tried them out and

00:02:53 ◼   ► report it back to you this one why the

00:02:55 ◼   ► complete rejection oh we should have

00:02:58 ◼   ► done that that would have been the real

00:02:59 ◼   ► way to do it so sorry everybody we have

00:03:01 ◼   ► we made a huge mistake we should have

00:03:04 ◼   ► just taken all of the money that we make

00:03:06 ◼   ► from the podcasts and run around and

00:03:08 ◼   ► take in all of these vacations yeah just

00:03:10 ◼   ► take it just take a bunch of vacations

00:03:12 ◼   ► for a whole year and then review the

00:03:14 ◼   ► vacations that we take that could be our

00:03:16 ◼   ► next podcast actually mark joint if on

00:03:18 ◼   ► vacation complain about everywhere we

00:03:25 ◼   ► are we would be the worst travel show

00:03:27 ◼   ► yeah we'd be like this is boring or

00:03:30 ◼   ► weird or I'm tired or I'm hot Oh God

00:03:33 ◼   ► that would be everything everywhere we

00:03:34 ◼   ► went we would be so dull anyway let's

00:03:37 ◼   ► talk about where we would be dull all

00:03:39 ◼   ► right my number four are you ready I am

00:03:42 ◼   ► ready let's do it alright so in the

00:03:44 ◼   ► spirit of top four okay it's a little

00:03:48 ◼   ► convoluted here but I have anything

00:03:51 ◼   ► skiing cold weather or an ice hotel what

00:03:55 ◼   ► is an ice hotel an ice hotel is exactly

00:03:58 ◼   ► what it sounds like it's an entire Hotel

00:04:00 ◼   ► made of ice that exists like not in

00:04:03 ◼   ► movies like I know like you can go stay

00:04:05 ◼   ► in nice hotels that sounds like the

00:04:07 ◼   ► worst that does some pretty bad like you

00:04:09 ◼   ► literally sleep on ice bed in like skins

00:04:12 ◼   ► of animals that sounds that way it's

00:04:14 ◼   ► p.m. people pay to do this yes they

00:04:16 ◼   ► totally pay you this and go to the ice

00:04:18 ◼   ► bar and like say in the Ice Hotel benya

00:04:21 ◼   ► Lane I I like like a chilled environment

00:04:24 ◼   ► like I I appreciate you know there's

00:04:26 ◼   ► like two kills

00:04:27 ◼   ► the signs freezer-burn like you all will

00:04:29 ◼   ► be getting freezer burn if you lie on

00:04:33 ◼   ► the floor for too long you get like like

00:04:35 ◼   ► frostbite the quints yeah I don't know

00:04:38 ◼   ► okay so I seen it like on Travel

00:04:39 ◼   ► Channel's and stuff and like Rando

00:04:42 ◼   ► internet things like 12 vacations you

00:04:44 ◼   ► would don't believe but so easy man I'm

00:04:48 ◼   ► like nope I never I never want to do

00:04:50 ◼   ► that that's something I never cared to

00:04:52 ◼   ► see yeah yeah that sounds awful I mean

00:04:54 ◼   ► like I just see even like getting there

00:04:57 ◼   ► to see it sounds cold like it sounds

00:05:00 ◼   ► like too much to even see it I think

00:05:02 ◼   ► seeing it on the TV is just plenty cuz

00:05:05 ◼   ► you probably can't have a nice hotel in

00:05:07 ◼   ► any remotely warm climate so you have to

00:05:11 ◼   ► have to already be in a very cold

00:05:12 ◼   ► location they might have one in Dubai

00:05:14 ◼   ► well yeah that's everything you do by

00:05:17 ◼   ► anyway I also made my list I put those

00:05:20 ◼   ► with skiing because I used to really

00:05:22 ◼   ► like skiing and I did it with my dad but

00:05:24 ◼   ► now I feel like I'm too old and scared

00:05:27 ◼   ► to do skiing well like I feel like I

00:05:29 ◼   ► just might wet my legs start wobbling

00:05:32 ◼   ► yeah as soon as I think about skiing

00:05:34 ◼   ► it's exhausting yeah like I did I did go

00:05:37 ◼   ► on a ski vacation

00:05:39 ◼   ► as part of a bachelor party for my best

00:05:42 ◼   ► friend for you know for his before his

00:05:45 ◼   ► wedding right that's one of them yeah

00:05:46 ◼   ► yeah yeah and and and we went skiing a

00:05:49 ◼   ► couple years ago and it was it was in a

00:05:51 ◼   ► great location near Seattle and I hadn't

00:05:53 ◼   ► been skiing since high school and so I

00:05:56 ◼   ► hadn't skied for whatever it was like 10

00:05:58 ◼   ► 15 years and dangerous it sounds

00:06:03 ◼   ► terrifying and the good thing is I

00:06:05 ◼   ► remembered how to do it like I did I

00:06:07 ◼   ► hadn't lost the skill but as soon like I

00:06:10 ◼   ► went down the slopes a few times and I

00:06:13 ◼   ► was like oh my god like my knees are

00:06:14 ◼   ► starting to get tired and I'm starting

00:06:16 ◼   ► to get less stable now and I know like

00:06:18 ◼   ► when I was 17 doing this I was probably

00:06:22 ◼   ► still mostly made of rubber so that

00:06:24 ◼   ► wouldn't really matter if I hurt myself

00:06:25 ◼   ► but when I was like 33 or 34 doing it

00:06:28 ◼   ► like I would have seriously injured

00:06:30 ◼   ► myself and had a much worse longer

00:06:33 ◼   ► recovery time if I would have you know

00:06:34 ◼   ► fallen in some weird way I messed up my

00:06:35 ◼   ► legs but the thing about skiing really

00:06:37 ◼   ► is that it needs to have the absolute

00:06:40 ◼   ► perfect

00:06:41 ◼   ► conditions for it to be fun at all and

00:06:43 ◼   ► you need to be in excellent physical

00:06:45 ◼   ► condition and practiced at skiing and

00:06:48 ◼   ► even if you're hanging out at the lodge

00:06:50 ◼   ► it's really not that fun because on like

00:06:53 ◼   ► peak ski seasons it's so crowded and

00:06:55 ◼   ► it's noisier than it needs to be and you

00:06:58 ◼   ► have to wear like weird fitting clothes

00:06:59 ◼   ► and wear those stoppi boots and like hey

00:07:02 ◼   ► there's just there's so many things

00:07:04 ◼   ► there's just so many things and no it's

00:07:07 ◼   ► just no so anyway I just don't want to

00:07:10 ◼   ► pack for winter vacations it just sounds

00:07:13 ◼   ► so bulky and packing for that it's just

00:07:16 ◼   ► exhausting I don't want to be on

00:07:18 ◼   ► anything treacherous outside like an

00:07:20 ◼   ► Everest vacation where there's there's

00:07:22 ◼   ► terrifying bridges or ledges or anywhere

00:07:25 ◼   ► that I might die like I don't want to

00:07:28 ◼   ► encounter any of that winter cold

00:07:31 ◼   ► vacation tastic stuff so yeah I mean no

00:07:36 ◼   ► thanks I think part of the reasons like

00:07:37 ◼   ► we live in New York where we have

00:07:40 ◼   ► winters with snow and everything it's

00:07:42 ◼   ► like and even though it's not the same

00:07:43 ◼   ► as like you know going up a huge

00:07:46 ◼   ► mountain with like that kind of snow

00:07:47 ◼   ► it's we still have enough snow in enough

00:07:50 ◼   ► winters that the last thing we want to

00:07:52 ◼   ► do is pay and spend vacation time to go

00:07:57 ◼   ► somewhere to experience more winter yeah

00:08:00 ◼   ► cuz I couldn't I couldn't even think of

00:08:02 ◼   ► a season that I would want to go to

00:08:04 ◼   ► winter so in winter I don't want to go

00:08:07 ◼   ► to more winter when it's finally spring

00:08:09 ◼   ► I'm like thank God spring like you don't

00:08:11 ◼   ► want to go to winter when it's

00:08:12 ◼   ► summertime it's summertime why waste the

00:08:14 ◼   ► summer going back to winter and then

00:08:16 ◼   ► when the fall it's almost winter so why

00:08:18 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:08:25 ◼   ► that's yeah you're right that's totally

00:08:28 ◼   ► amazing yeah it's like IIIi agree like

00:08:31 ◼   ► there-there is no time of year where I

00:08:33 ◼   ► we're like experiencing more winter like

00:08:36 ◼   ► things would be considered refreshing

00:08:38 ◼   ► like even now in August when we had were

00:08:41 ◼   ► having some really hot days and hanging

00:08:44 ◼   ► out in uh near conditioned places a lot

00:08:46 ◼   ► of the time and and so we really should

00:08:48 ◼   ► like if there was a time that we would

00:08:50 ◼   ► want to do that it's probably now and we

00:08:52 ◼   ► don't want it like it sounds uh so

00:08:53 ◼   ► because I don't want

00:08:55 ◼   ► think about putting on more clothes and

00:08:56 ◼   ► when you go to the winter you have to

00:08:58 ◼   ► put more clothes on so like I don't want

00:09:00 ◼   ► to think about bundling up when I'm at

00:09:02 ◼   ► my hot like feeling the hottest in the

00:09:04 ◼   ► weather anyway so yeah

00:09:06 ◼   ► number four never is enough winter so my

00:09:11 ◼   ► number four I kind of went in the

00:09:13 ◼   ► opposite direction and this is this is

00:09:16 ◼   ► one of my only ones that's that's a very

00:09:18 ◼   ► specific place and that is Phoenix

00:09:21 ◼   ► Arizona and but with all due apologies

00:09:24 ◼   ► to the great residents of Phoenix I'm

00:09:27 ◼   ► not talking about you here this is very

00:09:30 ◼   ► specific yes I'm very curious so the

00:09:33 ◼   ► reason was so I I have been to Phoenix

00:09:35 ◼   ► Arizona for a number of different things

00:09:38 ◼   ► over the years most most notably my

00:09:41 ◼   ► grandparents used to live there but now

00:09:43 ◼   ► they don't so I don't really have any

00:09:45 ◼   ► reason to go back there for any kind of

00:09:47 ◼   ► like strong family connection or

00:09:48 ◼   ► anything

00:09:49 ◼   ► it would just be if I went back there it

00:09:51 ◼   ► would be for some other random reason

00:09:52 ◼   ► and Phoenix Arizona is a place where for

00:09:58 ◼   ► most of the year it is oppressively hot

00:10:01 ◼   ► you know so it is so hot and so sunny

00:10:04 ◼   ► and so dry because they decided to build

00:10:07 ◼   ► a city in the middle of a desert for

00:10:08 ◼   ► some reason that they're you you

00:10:11 ◼   ► basically can't go outside like it one

00:10:14 ◼   ► of the reasons why I get kind of

00:10:15 ◼   ► depressed and unhappy in winter is

00:10:18 ◼   ► because I feel like the outside

00:10:21 ◼   ► conditions are so hostile that I can't

00:10:23 ◼   ► really go outside and enjoy myself I

00:10:24 ◼   ► can't go like take a big dog lock or or

00:10:27 ◼   ► just like walk around outside or do

00:10:29 ◼   ► things outside because it's so

00:10:30 ◼   ► impressively cold and crappy in the

00:10:32 ◼   ► winter Phoenix has that problem in the

00:10:34 ◼   ► opposite direction on the heat side like

00:10:36 ◼   ► Phoenix is so hot that you basically end

00:10:39 ◼   ► up spending all of your time indoors in

00:10:41 ◼   ► air conditioning anyway so you can't

00:10:43 ◼   ► you're still not going outside and able

00:10:45 ◼   ► to really do much outside except for

00:10:47 ◼   ► during you know very limited times of

00:10:49 ◼   ► the year and limited times of the day

00:10:50 ◼   ► but that could be like it that could be

00:10:52 ◼   ► a lot of different hot places why

00:10:53 ◼   ► Phoenix specifically because Phoenix

00:10:56 ◼   ► does not offer me any reason why I want

00:10:58 ◼   ► to endure that heat so like one of the

00:11:00 ◼   ► reasons like so reason is they didn't

00:11:04 ◼   ► give me a good enough reason yeah

00:11:06 ◼   ► basically so like like what I want

00:11:08 ◼   ► travel somewhere one of the things I'd

00:11:09 ◼   ► like to do as you know one of the things

00:11:11 ◼   ► that that we enjoy doing is getting a

00:11:14 ◼   ► hotel room that has a decent view the

00:11:16 ◼   ► kind of view I usually like to get is

00:11:18 ◼   ► usually of water or at least a very high

00:11:22 ◼   ► up view and one thing Phoenix does not

00:11:25 ◼   ► have a lot of is high up hotel buildings

00:11:28 ◼   ► and water so there's not a lot there to

00:11:31 ◼   ► attract me there now that my family

00:11:33 ◼   ► doesn't live there anymore it's also

00:11:34 ◼   ► full of not only the the very hostile

00:11:39 ◼   ► natural environment of Phoenix but also

00:11:41 ◼   ► the wildlife in the in the Phoenix area

00:11:44 ◼   ► is scary as hell like they have this the

00:11:48 ◼   ► like you know scorpions and coyotes and

00:11:51 ◼   ► super coyotes and mega coyotes and ultra

00:11:54 ◼   ► coyotes everything that will try to eat

00:11:56 ◼   ► you and kill you not to mention the gun

00:11:58 ◼   ► people like there's I find the people in

00:12:01 ◼   ► Phoenix to be not you do you listener

00:12:03 ◼   ► and yeah you're gonna piss off people

00:12:05 ◼   ► well you dear listener in Phoenix we're

00:12:07 ◼   ► not this are not these people you're

00:12:09 ◼   ► probably not the majority unfortunately

00:12:11 ◼   ► the other people in Phoenix who are not

00:12:13 ◼   ► listening to the show I find generally

00:12:16 ◼   ► off-putting too scary and and there you

00:12:19 ◼   ► know there's a big like you know

00:12:20 ◼   ► conservative gun racists you know

00:12:22 ◼   ► undertone of a lot of people there it's

00:12:24 ◼   ► interesting very specific here I know

00:12:27 ◼   ► something happened to you in Phoenix

00:12:28 ◼   ► that you need to talk about no it's just

00:12:30 ◼   ► to read to have a moment to get the

00:12:32 ◼   ► culture there I feel like it is not a

00:12:33 ◼   ► good fit for me either in addition to

00:12:35 ◼   ► the climate being a very bad fit for me

00:12:36 ◼   ► and then finally is the law of hot

00:12:39 ◼   ► places the law of hot places is

00:12:42 ◼   ► basically my rule that says that places

00:12:45 ◼   ► with really hot letter tend to have

00:12:47 ◼   ► really crappy coffee and Phoenix it's

00:12:50 ◼   ► true Phoenix is the place where I came

00:12:52 ◼   ► up with the law of hot places it is the

00:12:53 ◼   ► place that inspired it's the birthplace

00:12:55 ◼   ► of the law of hot places they should

00:12:57 ◼   ► have a plaque actually at the Phoenix

00:12:59 ◼   ► Airport

00:12:59 ◼   ► yeah the airport the same Sky Harbor

00:13:00 ◼   ► because there's no water anywhere nearby

00:13:02 ◼   ► yes

00:13:03 ◼   ► everyone wants to be port city it's fine

00:13:06 ◼   ► everyone's jealous

00:13:07 ◼   ► I respect the the level of denial

00:13:09 ◼   ► they've achieved in that Airport with

00:13:11 ◼   ► all like the nautical themes it's bad

00:13:14 ◼   ► anyway so yeah like the law of hot

00:13:17 ◼   ► places basically is you know places with

00:13:20 ◼   ► very hot weather tend not to have a lot

00:13:23 ◼   ► people seeking out hot coffee and you

00:13:26 ◼   ► know most of the caffeine serving these

00:13:27 ◼   ► places tends to be iced coffee or you

00:13:30 ◼   ► know other like variations like

00:13:31 ◼   ► Frappuccino kind of blended drink stuff

00:13:33 ◼   ► like that and so ice coffee you're

00:13:36 ◼   ► loading up with milk and sugar anyway

00:13:37 ◼   ► like even people like me who enjoy black

00:13:39 ◼   ► coffee

00:13:40 ◼   ► you met most of us I would have eight I

00:13:42 ◼   ► would wager will add some kind of

00:13:45 ◼   ► sweetener or milk or something to iced

00:13:47 ◼   ► coffee so the hot places tend not to

00:13:49 ◼   ► have very good coffee because nobody

00:13:50 ◼   ► ever really wants it like that there

00:13:52 ◼   ► aren't a lot of like hot black coffee

00:13:53 ◼   ► drinkers there and and those of us who

00:13:56 ◼   ► are there have basically had to deal

00:13:58 ◼   ► with whatever options we have and

00:14:00 ◼   ► there's not very many of them so there's

00:14:02 ◼   ► not really any incentive for them to

00:14:04 ◼   ► have a great coffee and they usually

00:14:05 ◼   ► don't so combine the relatively poor

00:14:09 ◼   ► coffee options along with the miserably

00:14:12 ◼   ► hot weather the the oppressive outdoor

00:14:15 ◼   ► conditions the ultra maker coyotes and

00:14:17 ◼   ► the gun people and I just don't want to

00:14:19 ◼   ► go there anymore well there we go

00:14:22 ◼   ► wow you feel really strongly about

00:14:24 ◼   ► Phoenix sorry Phoenix people yeah I I

00:14:29 ◼   ► know some very nice people from Phoenix

00:14:31 ◼   ► unfortunately there's a lot more crazy

00:14:34 ◼   ► woman sorry okay number three for me is

00:14:39 ◼   ► at I know you're usually the one I'm

00:14:45 ◼   ► getting my dues in here of screwing up

00:14:47 ◼   ► the top forage of these things alright

00:14:52 ◼   ► so my number three is a tie between a

00:14:54 ◼   ► cruise anywhere and Branson Missouri

00:15:00 ◼   ► okay let's I think we need to discuss

00:15:03 ◼   ► these individually oh alright where

00:15:08 ◼   ► would you like me to start we start with

00:15:09 ◼   ► the cruise or bracelets were on specific

00:15:12 ◼   ► places let's start with Branson Missouri

00:15:13 ◼   ► I don't even know where that is what

00:15:14 ◼   ► Missouri okay that's and it's quite

00:15:17 ◼   ► brand I barely know where that is but

00:15:19 ◼   ► it's this date I mean I in arc I know

00:15:21 ◼   ► it's kind of in the middle and I mmm

00:15:25 ◼   ► okay my Adam has a little like foam map

00:15:29 ◼   ► and I'm trying to picture it and you

00:15:31 ◼   ► stick on the wall and the big question

00:15:33 ◼   ► is if you were faced with with I can

00:15:35 ◼   ► find it well if you were face to the

00:15:37 ◼   ► of the US with no lines in it I just

00:15:39 ◼   ► know if a sign said Branson Missouri I

00:15:41 ◼   ► wouldn't want to go there waiting the

00:15:43 ◼   ► signs if you had a map but no with no

00:15:45 ◼   ► state lines drawn it was just blank in

00:15:47 ◼   ► the middle could you like pinpoint with

00:15:50 ◼   ► a pencil like this is in Missouri like

00:15:52 ◼   ► any point in there and we do you think

00:15:54 ◼   ► you'd be right I'm guessing I have I

00:15:57 ◼   ► think I might have the wrong hemisphere

00:15:59 ◼   ► of the country honestly in my mind but

00:16:01 ◼   ► it doesn't matter I'm not getting on a

00:16:03 ◼   ► plane to Branson Missouri I am NOT

00:16:04 ◼   ► driving to Branson Missouri I'm not

00:16:06 ◼   ► doing it like it's not happening sorry

00:16:09 ◼   ► Branson people it's not about the people

00:16:11 ◼   ► it's not about the weather well maybe a

00:16:13 ◼   ► little bit about the weather but it's

00:16:15 ◼   ► really not because I can get over that

00:16:16 ◼   ► kind of stuff it's about your content I

00:16:19 ◼   ► have a problem with your content you're

00:16:21 ◼   ► gonna have to explain this all right so

00:16:23 ◼   ► Branson Missouri is kind of like a huge

00:16:25 ◼   ► mega vacation spot for a whole bunch of

00:16:30 ◼   ► theater and country music and Dolly

00:16:34 ◼   ► Parton stuff whoo I really like Dolly

00:16:36 ◼   ► Parton but all of that kind of Missouri

00:16:41 ◼   ► country music yeah I don't mean to like

00:16:45 ◼   ► crap on country music I really don't

00:16:47 ◼   ► losing all the friends oh my gosh I know

00:16:49 ◼   ► I'm so sorry

00:16:50 ◼   ► no and and now I just sounded like such

00:16:52 ◼   ► a lady saying crap on country music oh

00:16:55 ◼   ► and I've got a choice

00:16:56 ◼   ► all right I don't mean to put down

00:16:58 ◼   ► country music it's fine but a location

00:17:00 ◼   ► for vacation that is so centralized and

00:17:05 ◼   ► so saturated with country music sounds

00:17:07 ◼   ► like one of the least fun places for me

00:17:09 ◼   ► to go so that's why I have it it's just

00:17:13 ◼   ► it's a lot of stuff I hear it's very

00:17:15 ◼   ► crowded I hear the weather isn't that

00:17:18 ◼   ► fantastic and it's almost like you know

00:17:22 ◼   ► it's just like a big theater party of

00:17:25 ◼   ► country music and I don't want to go

00:17:29 ◼   ► there all right so that's it's a tie for

00:17:33 ◼   ► cruises wait so I'm home before we leave

00:17:35 ◼   ► Branson Missouri have you even like

00:17:37 ◼   ► you've never mentioned before how'd you

00:17:38 ◼   ► even hear about this place we've never

00:17:40 ◼   ► gone anywhere near Missouri you we've

00:17:42 ◼   ► you've never as far as I know research

00:17:44 ◼   ► to country music destinations how'd you

00:17:46 ◼   ► even hear about it well I used to be a

00:17:48 ◼   ► theatre kid so Branson

00:17:50 ◼   ► Missouri is like a big place to work or

00:17:53 ◼   ► have jobs or that people have you know

00:17:55 ◼   ► have worked there and it's it's kind of

00:17:58 ◼   ► like a mecca of this kind of thing and

00:18:01 ◼   ► if you are at all interested in that

00:18:05 ◼   ► like going to theater going to shows

00:18:08 ◼   ► going to concerts that all happens in

00:18:12 ◼   ► Branson it's almost it's like a it's

00:18:14 ◼   ► almost like a Disney World for country

00:18:16 ◼   ► music and different types of theater

00:18:18 ◼   ► it's just it's a very busy and dense

00:18:20 ◼   ► area for that more than any other city

00:18:24 ◼   ► if you think of like okay like New York

00:18:25 ◼   ► has Broadway but Broadway is so spread

00:18:28 ◼   ► out Branson Missouri is its own like

00:18:30 ◼   ► special little dome of coach of that

00:18:34 ◼   ► kind of culture and I don't want to go

00:18:38 ◼   ► there you made fun of me for Phoenix and

00:18:40 ◼   ► that's like wow but it but Branson is

00:18:43 ◼   ► like a destination like it's a big big

00:18:46 ◼   ► destination and I just would never want

00:18:50 ◼   ► to go so if anyone's like oh I'm taking

00:18:52 ◼   ► a trip to Branson you want to come I'd

00:18:53 ◼   ► be like even if you're my favorite

00:18:55 ◼   ► person in the whole world no I don't

00:18:57 ◼   ► want to go so never is enough Branson

00:19:00 ◼   ► Missouri tie for number three because I

00:19:03 ◼   ► couldn't I just couldn't not say

00:19:04 ◼   ► anything about Branson because it was

00:19:05 ◼   ► just it's such it's it's such a dense

00:19:08 ◼   ► area and it's so prominent and it's it's

00:19:12 ◼   ► so well known by almost everybody except

00:19:15 ◼   ► for Marco anyway cruises never is enough

00:19:19 ◼   ► except we did do one cruise and we were

00:19:22 ◼   ► totally seasick the whole time and we

00:19:24 ◼   ► kept taking Dramamine which we thought

00:19:26 ◼   ► was drought non-drowsy Dramamine and we

00:19:28 ◼   ► kept falling asleep at dinner

00:19:29 ◼   ► the food isn't that great you're kind of

00:19:31 ◼   ► trapped on a boat you are forced to have

00:19:33 ◼   ► fun in ways that you don't want to have

00:19:34 ◼   ► fun you feel like you're getting nowhere

00:19:36 ◼   ► because you aren't really getting

00:19:38 ◼   ► anywhere if there's bad weather you the

00:19:41 ◼   ► boats rocky and it's terrible even we

00:19:43 ◼   ► stayed in like a really good room and it

00:19:45 ◼   ► was still the room was high up with a

00:19:48 ◼   ► view of water it that that part was very

00:19:49 ◼   ► nice but it would not make that alone

00:19:53 ◼   ► does not make me want to get on a cruise

00:19:54 ◼   ► again you don't have enough time in the

00:19:56 ◼   ► port cities to really do much when you

00:19:59 ◼   ► do stop it the even just walking past

00:20:02 ◼   ► some of the interior

00:20:04 ◼   ► cabin rooms made me nauseous because

00:20:06 ◼   ► they have no windows in little beds and

00:20:08 ◼   ► I'm like I don't know how anyone could

00:20:09 ◼   ► stay in there I would get sick instantly

00:20:12 ◼   ► and just all the things that were

00:20:14 ◼   ► happening on the cruise were things that

00:20:16 ◼   ► we never would want to even do we

00:20:18 ◼   ► couldn't find anything to do on the boat

00:20:20 ◼   ► that we like to do because we didn't

00:20:21 ◼   ► want to do any of it like we don't want

00:20:23 ◼   ► to eat half the food because it was all

00:20:25 ◼   ► like fatty random super indulgent stuff

00:20:29 ◼   ► that doesn't make you feel good

00:20:30 ◼   ► especially when you're seasick half the

00:20:31 ◼   ► time and we didn't want to go in the

00:20:33 ◼   ► pool because almost all the other places

00:20:36 ◼   ► were crowded we didn't want to drink

00:20:37 ◼   ► because we were already nauseous like

00:20:39 ◼   ► there was just so much happening on a

00:20:42 ◼   ► cruise that we didn't want to do so I

00:20:46 ◼   ► would never again do a cruise to

00:20:49 ◼   ► anywhere so yeah see I feel like I feel

00:20:52 ◼   ► like there there would be I'm sure there

00:20:55 ◼   ► are cruises out there that we would

00:20:56 ◼   ► enjoy more we just didn't find the right

00:20:59 ◼   ► one and it doesn't seem like it's worth

00:21:01 ◼   ► trying a bunch of them to find the right

00:21:03 ◼   ► one okay so let me let me pitch it to

00:21:05 ◼   ► you this way any kind of themed cruise I

00:21:07 ◼   ► don't want to be forced into a theme on

00:21:10 ◼   ► my vacation stuck on a boat with a whole

00:21:12 ◼   ► bunch of people who are super excited

00:21:13 ◼   ► about the theme number two an untamed

00:21:16 ◼   ► Cruise what's happening on this cruise

00:21:19 ◼   ► why are we even on this boat why can't I

00:21:21 ◼   ► just be in a hotel somewhere that I can

00:21:23 ◼   ► escape from if I wanted to and so there

00:21:26 ◼   ► we go and I see this thing yeah like

00:21:28 ◼   ► that for me like the I suppose the once

00:21:31 ◼   ► we discovered Vegas which we thought we

00:21:33 ◼   ► would hate and and we ended up you know

00:21:35 ◼   ► finding a way that we like cruise but

00:21:38 ◼   ► you don't move right oh it's better

00:21:40 ◼   ► right like once we discovered that I I

00:21:42 ◼   ► realized that most of the advantages

00:21:44 ◼   ► that we liked about cruise is like you

00:21:46 ◼   ► know you everything's kind of right

00:21:48 ◼   ► there it's ah it's kind of all on

00:21:49 ◼   ► property you don't really need to leave

00:21:52 ◼   ► you know the cruise or the Vegas to like

00:21:56 ◼   ► find good restaurants and stuff that you

00:21:58 ◼   ► want to do it but I gotta say Vegas and

00:22:00 ◼   ► cruises

00:22:01 ◼   ► I don't mind kitschy I really don't rush

00:22:04 ◼   ► sometimes kitschy is fun but I want to

00:22:06 ◼   ► be able to control the amount of Kitsch

00:22:08 ◼   ► that is entering my periphery I I do and

00:22:12 ◼   ► I feel like when we go to Vegas we stay

00:22:14 ◼   ► at a place that we can kind of control

00:22:16 ◼   ► the amount of kitsch

00:22:17 ◼   ► kind of get away from it we have times

00:22:19 ◼   ► that we're outside like it's just it's

00:22:22 ◼   ► it's a low-level hum of kitsch the

00:22:24 ◼   ► entire time it's not the shouting of

00:22:27 ◼   ► kitsch so yeah it's just I just feel

00:22:31 ◼   ► like cruises are just too much and I

00:22:32 ◼   ► think at one point I'll just be like I

00:22:35 ◼   ► might jump off the boat I don't know I

00:22:37 ◼   ► don't know I don't want to put myself in

00:22:38 ◼   ► that position where I feel like I want

00:22:40 ◼   ► to jump the boat yeah I feel like part

00:22:43 ◼   ► of our problem was that we really did

00:22:44 ◼   ► not react well to the you know really

00:22:46 ◼   ► rough water that we had and like when

00:22:48 ◼   ► you're on a cruise like you're you're at

00:22:49 ◼   ► the mercy of the water conditions for a

00:22:51 ◼   ► lot of your enjoyment like if if you're

00:22:53 ◼   ► having or if you're having rough seas

00:22:55 ◼   ► you're just kind of out of luck like

00:22:57 ◼   ► you're just gonna have to deal with that

00:22:58 ◼   ► and even the fact that that is a tiny

00:23:01 ◼   ► factor at all I what I know I know I'm

00:23:05 ◼   ► just saying it is like if someone's

00:23:06 ◼   ► considering it a tiny factor out there

00:23:09 ◼   ► at all it being a tiny factor that the

00:23:11 ◼   ► place where I am sleeping and staying

00:23:13 ◼   ► and living for the amount of time that I

00:23:16 ◼   ► have to be there could possibly move and

00:23:18 ◼   ► make me sick I don't want to deal with

00:23:20 ◼   ► it yeah all right

00:23:22 ◼   ► are you are you done with all of your

00:23:24 ◼   ► number three if you have any more number

00:23:25 ◼   ► three's to do nope I think I hit all

00:23:28 ◼   ► those points Branson Missouri crews not

00:23:31 ◼   ► enough time at ports trapped seasick yep

00:23:34 ◼   ► done okay my sole number three looks I'm

00:23:39 ◼   ► doing this right for once

00:23:40 ◼   ► well you just that's just sad it's all

00:23:43 ◼   ► by itself my soul number three is

00:23:46 ◼   ► speaking at a conference

00:23:48 ◼   ► what so okay wait hold on mister Armand

00:23:54 ◼   ► yes it is fine to have this list say

00:23:58 ◼   ► things like yeah we did it once and we

00:24:01 ◼   ► would never do it again

00:24:02 ◼   ► this sounds like a list of things that

00:24:05 ◼   ► you have done and have hated not so much

00:24:08 ◼   ► an a list of things that you would never

00:24:10 ◼   ► want to do based on the description of

00:24:12 ◼   ► them because I really like assuming

00:24:14 ◼   ► things personally and then you know

00:24:16 ◼   ► talking about them like it's our job

00:24:18 ◼   ► don't okay I'll get to those okay those

00:24:20 ◼   ► are higher on the list okay I feel like

00:24:22 ◼   ► right now I feel like we're getting

00:24:23 ◼   ► getting a little sad and sad no speaka

00:24:27 ◼   ► conferences is very simple it basically

00:24:29 ◼   ► like you know conferences are often

00:24:31 ◼   ► in really interesting nice places or

00:24:34 ◼   ► venues or cities or whatever and they're

00:24:36 ◼   ► often a way to for for you know young

00:24:40 ◼   ► professionals to travel around for

00:24:43 ◼   ► discounted rates or for free or to even

00:24:45 ◼   ► get paid for traveling to these awesome

00:24:47 ◼   ► places in exchange for you speaking at a

00:24:50 ◼   ► conference or taking some part in a

00:24:51 ◼   ► conference like that these are often

00:24:53 ◼   ► held in like a some really nice places

00:24:55 ◼   ► that I would love to have time to

00:24:57 ◼   ► explore but when I am there to speak or

00:25:01 ◼   ► you have a presentation or something

00:25:02 ◼   ► like that

00:25:02 ◼   ► I get so nervous about that and so

00:25:06 ◼   ► consumed in the preparation of it I have

00:25:08 ◼   ► spent so much time preparing for it that

00:25:11 ◼   ► I'm not able to enjoy the great places

00:25:13 ◼   ► these conferences are and so I like the

00:25:17 ◼   ► the beauty of the place or the

00:25:19 ◼   ► interestingness of the city or whatever

00:25:21 ◼   ► is wasted on me because I'm I'm nervous

00:25:24 ◼   ► about my talk or I'm you're Herzing my

00:25:26 ◼   ► talk or I'm still building my talk

00:25:28 ◼   ► hold the phone yeah you're playing this

00:25:30 ◼   ► game wrong this is nightmare vacations a

00:25:33 ◼   ► conference that invites you to speak in

00:25:34 ◼   ► some clothes vacation it's work well it

00:25:37 ◼   ► kind of feels like a vacation especially

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00:25:40 ◼   ► nightmares like a vacation vacations

00:25:43 ◼   ► well but they do and a lot of a lot of

00:25:45 ◼   ► the vacations we've taken in the last

00:25:47 ◼   ► five years or so have been me speaking

00:25:49 ◼   ► at a conference and so I am rejecting

00:25:52 ◼   ► this you actually have no number three

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00:29:23 ◼   ► Machu Picchu or anywhere with monkeys

00:29:26 ◼   ► okay wait is that is that a list to

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00:29:36 ◼   ► are there monkeys in Florida is is what

00:29:38 ◼   ► I'm really asking here I don't think

00:29:40 ◼   ► there are monkeys in Florida if they are

00:29:42 ◼   ► they might be like performing street

00:29:43 ◼   ► monkeys like the little ones with the

00:29:51 ◼   ► hats okay I don't know monkeys freak me

00:29:54 ◼   ► out don't like monkeys I don't want to

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00:30:02 ◼   ► it

00:30:02 ◼   ► yeah those look weird Florida sounds

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00:30:07 ◼   ► Florida and I don't really want to go

00:30:09 ◼   ► back for a vacation I will go back for

00:30:11 ◼   ► things if I have to go do things in

00:30:13 ◼   ► Florida but for a vacation like I'm

00:30:16 ◼   ► gonna go on vacation yeah it's not gonna

00:30:19 ◼   ► be Florida has heat humidity mosquitos

00:30:21 ◼   ► 20 something people slow drivers slow

00:30:23 ◼   ► walkers hopefully be alligators and

00:30:25 ◼   ► stuff alligators there's like apparently

00:30:27 ◼   ► tons of serial killers according to

00:30:29 ◼   ► Dexter so I mean it sounds like a place

00:30:32 ◼   ► where it doesn't sound very fun to be

00:30:34 ◼   ► down there I have Mexico on this list

00:30:37 ◼   ► because I do believe they have monkeys

00:30:39 ◼   ► they are also very hot but I think some

00:30:44 ◼   ► people have had some really nice times

00:30:45 ◼   ► in Mexico but from what I've heard again

00:30:48 ◼   ► huge stereotype what I've heard what's

00:30:50 ◼   ► going on the people often go to Resorts

00:30:52 ◼   ► and that they do not leave the resort

00:30:54 ◼   ► because it's very dangerous so that does

00:30:56 ◼   ► not sound like a good vacation place to

00:30:58 ◼   ► me where I would feel like oh I have to

00:31:00 ◼   ► fly in and get to this one place and

00:31:02 ◼   ► then everything's gonna be okay and I

00:31:03 ◼   ► will have all the drinks that I want and

00:31:05 ◼   ► party party party and then I just want

00:31:07 ◼   ► to get on the plane and leave that

00:31:09 ◼   ► doesn't make me feel great of a place to

00:31:11 ◼   ► go visit

00:31:12 ◼   ► and Machu Picchu it's a whole bunch of

00:31:15 ◼   ► ruins which I think are probably very

00:31:17 ◼   ► beautiful in real life but I seen

00:31:19 ◼   ► pictures of them and generally I don't

00:31:21 ◼   ► need to walk around a whole bunch of

00:31:23 ◼   ► ruins I know there's a lot of culture

00:31:26 ◼   ► and a lot of history and things like

00:31:28 ◼   ► that and I love learning about that kind

00:31:30 ◼   ► of stuff from the comfort of my own

00:31:31 ◼   ► couch and so never is enough sorry

00:31:38 ◼   ► Florida Mexico Machu Picchu and anywhere

00:31:40 ◼   ► with monkeys how is that possibly one

00:31:44 ◼   ► entry they seem like a little cluster

00:31:47 ◼   ► like a group like an idea they all kind

00:31:50 ◼   ► of went together in my mind

00:31:51 ◼   ► so a hot weather dangerous resorts ruins

00:31:53 ◼   ► and monkeys so that's that all sounds

00:31:55 ◼   ► the same to you yeah cuz root the ruins

00:31:57 ◼   ► sound dangerous too like I feel like I

00:31:59 ◼   ► could get hurt or bit by a snake or

00:32:00 ◼   ► something I'm not afraid of snakes but

00:32:02 ◼   ► I'm afraid of very poisonous snakes and

00:32:04 ◼   ► it seems like the very poisonous snakes

00:32:06 ◼   ► would be in ruins or possibly something

00:32:10 ◼   ► cursed don't want to encounter that but

00:32:12 ◼   ► I'm sure stakes but I'm afraid of

00:32:14 ◼   ► getting bitten by what well yeah I'm

00:32:15 ◼   ► sure there's monkeys running around

00:32:16 ◼   ► holding you know venomous snakes and

00:32:19 ◼   ► throwing them they throw them at you

00:32:20 ◼   ► that's how the snakes get to you

00:32:21 ◼   ► obviously I know there just seems like

00:32:23 ◼   ► there's just too much danger for me to

00:32:25 ◼   ► ever want to actually vacation there wow

00:32:30 ◼   ► I have nothing to add to that I don't

00:32:34 ◼   ► even know where to add from this crazy

00:32:36 ◼   ► Tower number to hear that Wow yep never

00:32:40 ◼   ► is enough I will see that Florida I

00:32:42 ◼   ► consider putting Florida on my list

00:32:44 ◼   ► because it's also not really for me

00:32:46 ◼   ► however you know compared to Arizona

00:32:48 ◼   ► Florida while that it also has a lot of

00:32:51 ◼   ► heat and a lot of crazy wildlife and

00:32:53 ◼   ► what a crazy Florida is full of humidity

00:32:56 ◼   ► it's that like wet so key grossie okay

00:32:59 ◼   ► so so Florida yes Florida is indeed very

00:33:03 ◼   ► very humid but the people in dry places

00:33:06 ◼   ► like Arizona I don't sell they'll say

00:33:07 ◼   ► well it's 115 degrees here but it's a

00:33:10 ◼   ► dry heat you know everyone always says

00:33:11 ◼   ► it's a dry heat it's not as bad and

00:33:12 ◼   ► they're right a dry heat is not as bad

00:33:15 ◼   ► as the crazy Florida heat however as hot

00:33:19 ◼   ► as it is in Arizona is bad regardless of

00:33:21 ◼   ► how dry it is like it is still really

00:33:23 ◼   ► bad so Florida yes Florida is also

00:33:25 ◼   ► really

00:33:26 ◼   ► but horrible and that makes it bad - but

00:33:28 ◼   ► Arizona people you you have nothing

00:33:30 ◼   ► better to say like you you have no your

00:33:33 ◼   ► honor but Florida here why are you

00:33:36 ◼   ► bringing Arizona back into this you just

00:33:37 ◼   ► keep wanting to beat them down

00:33:39 ◼   ► reasonably my Arizona in my list in

00:33:41 ◼   ► Florida didn't is because at least when

00:33:45 ◼   ► you go to Florida you can find a high up

00:33:47 ◼   ► hotel room with a view of the water that

00:33:50 ◼   ► we want to actually go outside or go

00:33:52 ◼   ► anywhere near the surface of the ground

00:33:55 ◼   ► where all the crazy gun people and

00:33:56 ◼   ► alligators are but you can at least stay

00:33:58 ◼   ► in your nice hotel and look at the water

00:34:00 ◼   ► and enjoy the breeze that is true if we

00:34:01 ◼   ► did go to a wedding in Florida it was

00:34:03 ◼   ► very very nice

00:34:04 ◼   ► exactly and that's that's a place where

00:34:06 ◼   ► we went in the winter and it was really

00:34:08 ◼   ► nice to have like fresh warm air in the

00:34:12 ◼   ► middle of the winter because it was more

00:34:14 ◼   ► reasonable there I would not go to

00:34:15 ◼   ► Florida anytime during the summer

00:34:17 ◼   ► because they would be way too hot and

00:34:18 ◼   ► horrible but that is a nice place to go

00:34:21 ◼   ► in the winter if you just want to stay

00:34:22 ◼   ► in a hotel and not do much else which

00:34:24 ◼   ► does sound kind of like us actually I'm

00:34:27 ◼   ► still keeping Florida on my list because

00:34:29 ◼   ► I will go to Florida for an event that

00:34:31 ◼   ► to me is not a vacation and that's why

00:34:33 ◼   ► you have a void at your number three

00:34:34 ◼   ► because so I will happily go to Florida

00:34:39 ◼   ► when invited for an event or something

00:34:42 ◼   ► like that

00:34:43 ◼   ► okay that's out that but as in a choice

00:34:46 ◼   ► to go to Florida generally no all right

00:34:51 ◼   ► my number two is going back to my

00:34:54 ◼   ► hometown for a high school reunion

00:34:58 ◼   ► you're so bad at this list what is the

00:35:01 ◼   ► bet that's a vacation yeah a one-time

00:35:04 ◼   ► vacation high school reunions happen

00:35:06 ◼   ► like three times ever

00:35:07 ◼   ► you just country to yourself in one

00:35:09 ◼   ► sentence that's fine I do what I want

00:35:12 ◼   ► here man look good my pike so I haven't

00:35:14 ◼   ► gone my ten-year reunion past how many

00:35:18 ◼   ► years are your ten-year reunion and I'll

00:35:20 ◼   ► tell you why you beat you we've gotten

00:35:25 ◼   ► snake sorting by monkeys a much broader

00:35:30 ◼   ► idea high school reunion really isn't

00:35:35 ◼   ► events Marco doesn't want to attend

00:35:37 ◼   ► podcast this is nice

00:35:40 ◼   ► Kayson that's a vacation you know

00:35:42 ◼   ► because some people considered a

00:35:44 ◼   ► vacation I'm gonna go keep going you're

00:35:50 ◼   ► ridiculous because these are events that

00:35:53 ◼   ► you're saying you don't want to go to

00:35:54 ◼   ► it's like saying like I don't want to go

00:35:56 ◼   ► to my cousin's wedding like this isn't a

00:35:58 ◼   ► vacation event that you have to travel

00:36:01 ◼   ► to in another place it's not a vacation

00:36:03 ◼   ► a vacation is something that you sit

00:36:05 ◼   ► down and you plan and you decide we have

00:36:08 ◼   ► nothing to do this weekend and we want

00:36:10 ◼   ► to do something or this week or next

00:36:13 ◼   ► month or first spring break your list

00:36:16 ◼   ► and commit a mountain and an animal

00:36:24 ◼   ► vacations are things that you plan to go

00:36:28 ◼   ► to when you have nothing when no that is

00:36:31 ◼   ► an event that is an event speaking at a

00:36:34 ◼   ► conference is an event high school

00:36:36 ◼   ► reunions is an event going to weddings

00:36:38 ◼   ► is an event graduations event there is e

00:36:42 ◼   ► these are events and obligations most of

00:36:44 ◼   ► those things right this isn't the

00:36:46 ◼   ► offense an obligations nightmare story

00:36:49 ◼   ► nightmare vacations which you plan for

00:36:51 ◼   ► leisure or leisure or however you want

00:36:54 ◼   ► to say it the thing where you do or you

00:36:55 ◼   ► hang out and you relax and you do

00:36:57 ◼   ► something for fun that makes you happy

00:36:58 ◼   ► because oh my god well no you're getting

00:37:06 ◼   ► me all riled up because you're Julie

00:37:09 ◼   ► think of a place that you would oh my

00:37:12 ◼   ► gosh where would you not want to go on

00:37:14 ◼   ► vacation uh a bar in Columbus Ohio that

00:37:18 ◼   ► has people in my high school in it

00:37:22 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:37:25 ◼   ► what quit anyway that's my number two

00:37:31 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:37:33 ◼   ► what's your number one honey I don't

00:37:37 ◼   ► know honey

00:37:37 ◼   ► it's certainly not a high school reunion

00:37:40 ◼   ► that only happens every five years that

00:37:42 ◼   ► I wouldn't want to go to anyway what's

00:37:46 ◼   ► your number one honey my number one

00:37:48 ◼   ► nightmare vacation as in an event that I

00:37:53 ◼   ► would plan and attend hmm

00:37:56 ◼   ► I shouldn't say event I should say

00:37:58 ◼   ► location Oh interesting you can cut that

00:38:01 ◼   ► out that was a slip of the lip no I'm

00:38:03 ◼   ► not cutting that up I don't it's not an

00:38:05 ◼   ► event all right good night verification

00:38:10 ◼   ► a place that I would plan to go to and

00:38:14 ◼   ► enjoy some time there or not enjoy my

00:38:17 ◼   ► number one is Disney Disney sounds like

00:38:21 ◼   ► the worst oh you'd go there of our

00:38:25 ◼   ► friends talk about going to Disney and

00:38:27 ◼   ► everything that they talk about

00:38:29 ◼   ► happening in Disney sounds terrible

00:38:33 ◼   ► it just sounds terrible it is lines it

00:38:35 ◼   ► is crowds its heat its people and giant

00:38:38 ◼   ► character costumes which is slightly

00:38:39 ◼   ► terrifying it's like you know I've been

00:38:42 ◼   ► and I'm sure a little bit of Branson

00:38:50 ◼   ► Missouri is in there too because they

00:38:51 ◼   ► have that whole small world business

00:38:53 ◼   ► going on so it just rolled into one

00:38:57 ◼   ► giant aqua globe of just things not for

00:39:01 ◼   ► you not fun no not fun yeah it's it's

00:39:04 ◼   ► hard for it cuz like so many of our

00:39:05 ◼   ► friends do go to Disney on a regular

00:39:07 ◼   ► basis and enjoy it and tell us that we

00:39:09 ◼   ► would like it or that we should go I

00:39:11 ◼   ► would not land and every time they

00:39:12 ◼   ► explained to us why we would like it and

00:39:16 ◼   ► why it's not what we think the things

00:39:18 ◼   ► they say are things that we don't like

00:39:20 ◼   ► or would hate like it no one has ever

00:39:24 ◼   ► made a good argument as to why we would

00:39:26 ◼   ► like this they may they be convinced as

00:39:29 ◼   ► to why they like it and that's fine as

00:39:30 ◼   ► you mentioned it's at the start of the

00:39:32 ◼   ► show people like different things but no

00:39:35 ◼   ► one has ever

00:39:36 ◼   ► it said anything about Disney or what

00:39:38 ◼   ► it's like to actually go there that made

00:39:40 ◼   ► it sound tempting for us and we we are

00:39:42 ◼   ► it sounds terrible to go there with

00:39:44 ◼   ► children because first of all you have

00:39:45 ◼   ► to force them through all the crowds and

00:39:47 ◼   ► the lines and the heat and the

00:39:49 ◼   ► terrifying characters and the travel to

00:39:50 ◼   ► get there to be in life and the travel

00:39:52 ◼   ► to get there to begin with and then you

00:39:53 ◼   ► either have to get there super early at

00:39:55 ◼   ► the park or stay there for a really long

00:39:57 ◼   ► time and there's all kinds of strange

00:39:58 ◼   ► weirdo passes that don't seem to work

00:40:00 ◼   ► the way they need to work to throw a

00:40:02 ◼   ► whole bunch of money at the problem

00:40:04 ◼   ► you have to like plan all of this stuff

00:40:07 ◼   ► and have these silly little key fob e

00:40:10 ◼   ► things all over the place that they're

00:40:12 ◼   ► apparently some nice restaurants to go

00:40:14 ◼   ► to but you have to go through all of the

00:40:16 ◼   ► lines heat crowds and characters to get

00:40:18 ◼   ► to the restaurants so why would I bother

00:40:20 ◼   ► I can't go to a nice restaurant here

00:40:22 ◼   ► without waiting online without going

00:40:24 ◼   ► through all creepy characters without

00:40:25 ◼   ► having all of this happen I have no

00:40:27 ◼   ► heart connection to Disney whatsoever

00:40:30 ◼   ► I really don't my son has really no

00:40:34 ◼   ► heart connection to Disney yes we like

00:40:36 ◼   ► to watch movies they are fine they're

00:40:38 ◼   ► movies that's what they are I don't need

00:40:40 ◼   ► to go get into the movie to enjoy it

00:40:42 ◼   ► like I have no desire to that I see the

00:40:45 ◼   ► movie I it's over I shut it off and I

00:40:46 ◼   ► move on with my life I would not like

00:40:49 ◼   ► Disney I just I wouldn't like it I've

00:40:51 ◼   ► been there as a child I have very little

00:40:54 ◼   ► memory of it I don't I don't think I had

00:40:57 ◼   ► that much fun I mean I might have had

00:40:59 ◼   ► some fun but I just remember it being

00:41:01 ◼   ► hot I remember not wanting to walk and I

00:41:04 ◼   ► remember waiting aligns so there you go

00:41:08 ◼   ► and I remember goofy trying to bite my

00:41:10 ◼   ► head at a restaurant and it was super

00:41:12 ◼   ► awkward why did he do that I was a

00:41:14 ◼   ► little girl didn't need to happen anyway

00:41:17 ◼   ► probably like some poor high school kid

00:41:18 ◼   ► in the summer job in that costume and I

00:41:20 ◼   ► also feel bad for all the people who are

00:41:22 ◼   ► working there right they all have to

00:41:23 ◼   ► like sit in those sweltering costumes

00:41:25 ◼   ► and like just everything surrounding the

00:41:29 ◼   ► Disney I don't think I would like I I

00:41:32 ◼   ► just don't know ride to me is worth a

00:41:34 ◼   ► two-hour line nothing is like no ride to

00:41:38 ◼   ► me is worth booking hours in advance and

00:41:40 ◼   ► then trying to get back to it to go to

00:41:42 ◼   ► it just if I wanted to go on rides I'll

00:41:45 ◼   ► just go for a day at an amusement park

00:41:48 ◼   ► and rainy days in amusement park

00:41:50 ◼   ► are awesome actually rollercoasters in

00:41:52 ◼   ► the rain amazing cuz they're not that

00:41:55 ◼   ► scary but they're much better when the

00:41:57 ◼   ► rains in your face is going to it's

00:42:00 ◼   ► really very fun then but yeah I just

00:42:03 ◼   ► yeah trams parking every I know

00:42:07 ◼   ► everything about it yeah I think we are

00:42:10 ◼   ► we are lucky in that our Sun is really

00:42:13 ◼   ► has it really never gotten that

00:42:15 ◼   ► interested in like the individual

00:42:17 ◼   ► characters of the movies like he'll want

00:42:19 ◼   ► to watch a movie a few times and then

00:42:21 ◼   ► you know he'll be he'll like the movie

00:42:23 ◼   ► for a little bit and then he'll be done

00:42:24 ◼   ► with it he'll move on he doesn't get

00:42:25 ◼   ► obsessed with the characters as much as

00:42:27 ◼   ► a lot of kids do and so yeah we bought

00:42:29 ◼   ► him some like little toys of things of

00:42:31 ◼   ► characters for movies he likes and he

00:42:32 ◼   ► likes it's like oh cool and then he

00:42:35 ◼   ► moves on yeah yeah yeah so like we're

00:42:38 ◼   ► lucky that like you know if your kids

00:42:41 ◼   ► are super into it then I could see why

00:42:43 ◼   ► you'd go that you know you were you'd

00:42:44 ◼   ► endure all this stuff you know to give

00:42:46 ◼   ► your kids a good time but why adults go

00:42:49 ◼   ► there is for them for their own benefit

00:42:53 ◼   ► is all for reasons that sound awful to

00:42:56 ◼   ► me and like and I know we're getting the

00:42:59 ◼   ► most feedback about this we're and we're

00:43:01 ◼   ► gonna have the most of our friends

00:43:01 ◼   ► telling us why we should do this and why

00:43:03 ◼   ► we're all wrong about this

00:43:04 ◼   ► I'm sorry folks never enough it sounds

00:43:07 ◼   ► that what you're getting it sounds it

00:43:10 ◼   ► sounds like it's not worth all the

00:43:11 ◼   ► hassle and and also you know if we were

00:43:13 ◼   ► if we were to go everybody has their

00:43:16 ◼   ► tips about well it is horrible you're

00:43:19 ◼   ► right unless you do tips XY and Z and

00:43:22 ◼   ► everyone has a different list of those

00:43:24 ◼   ► things and I know that in practice we

00:43:27 ◼   ► wouldn't we would do something wrong we

00:43:29 ◼   ► you know we would not do the tip

00:43:30 ◼   ► correctly or we would not take the

00:43:32 ◼   ► Fastpass Express line properly or

00:43:35 ◼   ► whatever and like something we would do

00:43:36 ◼   ► it wrong and then ever end we'd have a

00:43:39 ◼   ► bad time and all these people who were

00:43:41 ◼   ► telling us that we would love this would

00:43:43 ◼   ► be like well you just did it wrong like

00:43:44 ◼   ► I don't think it's just I don't want the

00:43:46 ◼   ► possibility of going somewhere and just

00:43:50 ◼   ► because I went there and I didn't do it

00:43:51 ◼   ► right it was the reason I didn't want it

00:43:53 ◼   ► didn't have fun I just want to be able

00:43:55 ◼   ► to go somewhere and enjoy it for what it

00:43:58 ◼   ► is I don't want to have to put in a

00:43:59 ◼   ► whole bunch of research and work and

00:44:01 ◼   ► like all of this

00:44:04 ◼   ► overhead to have fun in a fake fun land

00:44:08 ◼   ► yeah it seems like you can really have

00:44:10 ◼   ► to try very hard to properly manage a

00:44:14 ◼   ► successful Disney trip and I know there

00:44:17 ◼   ► are people you can pay to help you

00:44:18 ◼   ► manage it and even that sounds weird it

00:44:20 ◼   ► sounds it just sounds like a waste of

00:44:22 ◼   ► money to me like I really I wouldn't

00:44:23 ◼   ► even feel good about throwing money at

00:44:25 ◼   ► this problem because it doesn't sound

00:44:28 ◼   ► like a great way for us to spend money

00:44:32 ◼   ► in order to get back memories of

00:44:35 ◼   ► enjoyment because I would spend the

00:44:38 ◼   ► whole time

00:44:39 ◼   ► having angry face the only thing I will

00:44:43 ◼   ► say just agree with you on is you said

00:44:45 ◼   ► you kind of said earlier that like you'd

00:44:47 ◼   ► rather go there than other or you rather

00:44:49 ◼   ► go go to just any amusement park I

00:44:51 ◼   ► honestly I don't like any amusement

00:44:53 ◼   ► parks if I'm going to go to one I would

00:44:57 ◼   ► probably want to go to a really big

00:44:59 ◼   ► well-run one and by most people

00:45:01 ◼   ► description descriptions Disney is that

00:45:03 ◼   ► so no see to me an amusement park is a

00:45:06 ◼   ► getting get out you spent you go there

00:45:07 ◼   ► you spend a couple hours there yeah but

00:45:11 ◼   ► it's not like tons of it a week

00:45:14 ◼   ► difference no and it's not like let me

00:45:16 ◼   ► buy Fast Pass tickets to get on a line

00:45:19 ◼   ► that other people are standing on for

00:45:20 ◼   ► two hours it's literally like a

00:45:22 ◼   ► 15-minute line to go do the log flume or

00:45:25 ◼   ► whatever and then you're done like well

00:45:27 ◼   ► but like you know smaller parks are

00:45:29 ◼   ► often you know not very well-run and you

00:45:32 ◼   ► know at least it does it have to be for

00:45:35 ◼   ► you to go there you get your dippin dots

00:45:36 ◼   ► you get online for the roller coaster

00:45:38 ◼   ► you use the bathroom four or five times

00:45:40 ◼   ► you watch the bird show and then the

00:45:42 ◼   ► spinning plates and then you get to go

00:45:44 ◼   ► home like it's done yeah see I would

00:45:49 ◼   ► rather just not go to him using Park at

00:45:51 ◼   ► all and just do anything else in the in

00:45:53 ◼   ► the world than that anyway so that's

00:45:55 ◼   ► your number one yeah that is my hard and

00:45:59 ◼   ► strong number one Disney no matter what

00:46:01 ◼   ► anyone tells me it's not gonna happen

00:46:04 ◼   ► and I respect that you enjoy it because

00:46:06 ◼   ► it's your vacation it's not mine so

00:46:09 ◼   ► there we go my number one is similar to

00:46:13 ◼   ► some of your ones that you've been

00:46:14 ◼   ► sprinkling throughout your various

00:46:16 ◼   ► horrible

00:46:16 ◼   ► horribly structured list you have over

00:46:19 ◼   ► there okay is it monkeys or Branson

00:46:21 ◼   ► Missouri its rocks no it's similar

00:46:23 ◼   ► that's actually my number one is the

00:46:26 ◼   ► general category of hiking and camping

00:46:27 ◼   ► Oh see now that's that's a proper mode

00:46:31 ◼   ► you get battery on the list yes the

00:46:35 ◼   ► general category of hiking and camping

00:46:39 ◼   ► this also includes tangentially related

00:46:42 ◼   ► things like mountain climbing RV touring

00:46:47 ◼   ► or caravana depending where you are the

00:46:49 ◼   ► idea of going in a vehicle that's

00:46:51 ◼   ► basically a big camper van thing so

00:46:53 ◼   ► pretty much any form of roughing it

00:46:54 ◼   ► which is outside of your own home yeah

00:46:56 ◼   ► exactly and and it's like pretty much

00:46:59 ◼   ► like everything Brady doesn't vacation

00:47:01 ◼   ► like Brady goes to nice resorts as well

00:47:04 ◼   ► these are grinding mountains and stuff

00:47:06 ◼   ► and like diving into volcanoes like I

00:47:09 ◼   ► don't want to do any of that or any

00:47:10 ◼   ► outdoor hike or or any kind of camping

00:47:13 ◼   ► or anything like camping I really prefer

00:47:17 ◼   ► the not camping yeah I really prefer the

00:47:21 ◼   ► the basic modern amenities of like

00:47:24 ◼   ► bathrooms and walls climate control when

00:47:29 ◼   ► necessary screens to block out things

00:47:32 ◼   ► like mosquitoes all night or monkey um I

00:47:35 ◼   ► like being able to have like a small

00:47:38 ◼   ► snack in my bag without having to worry

00:47:39 ◼   ► about bears you know stuff like that

00:47:41 ◼   ► like I'm hiking or monkeys yeah I guess

00:47:44 ◼   ► yeah like just everything about that

00:47:47 ◼   ► about like the whole like you know

00:47:48 ◼   ► camping scene that just is incredibly

00:47:53 ◼   ► unappealing to me we have done it and it

00:47:55 ◼   ► was far too many toenails - yeah that

00:47:57 ◼   ► was not great they grew back it's fine

00:47:59 ◼   ► yeah and and hiking as like a trip like

00:48:02 ◼   ► I don't mind like a day hike where which

00:48:05 ◼   ► is basically a fancy word for walking in

00:48:06 ◼   ► the woods that's cool

00:48:07 ◼   ► but like when you're like carrying days

00:48:10 ◼   ► worth of stuff in a backpack and then

00:48:12 ◼   ► camping at night and stuff that is

00:48:14 ◼   ► really not at all for me we have a large

00:48:19 ◼   ► supply of camping gear and hiking

00:48:22 ◼   ► backpacks for sale if anyone is

00:48:24 ◼   ► interested please contact Marco hmm yeah

00:48:27 ◼   ► use it once yes please

00:48:31 ◼   ► oh they were heavily used but for a

00:48:32 ◼   ► short time that's true

00:48:34 ◼   ► heavily used once heavily used for four

00:48:36 ◼   ► days yeah

00:48:39 ◼   ► God impression bags mm-hmm we got it all

00:48:43 ◼   ► mm-hmm all sorts of stuff that I hope to

00:48:45 ◼   ► never use again cuz we love gear mm-hmm

00:48:48 ◼   ► we do like that the gear shopping and

00:48:49 ◼   ► everything was much better than the

00:48:51 ◼   ► actual use of subset gear our son plays

00:48:53 ◼   ► in the tent in our playroom does yep yep

00:48:58 ◼   ► yes five-year-olds and pillows and

00:49:01 ◼   ► popcorn while watching movies inside

00:49:04 ◼   ► yeah

00:49:05 ◼   ► hiking camping that whole the whole

00:49:09 ◼   ► outdoor holding the whole outdoor

00:49:11 ◼   ► adventure category nothing not at all

00:49:15 ◼   ► for me at all for people who this is for

00:49:19 ◼   ► more power to you I respect that but

00:49:21 ◼   ► please never never bring me again so

00:49:24 ◼   ► yeah I could I could get into some small

00:49:27 ◼   ► versions of those so that's why I didn't

00:49:29 ◼   ► put them on my list like I could do a

00:49:31 ◼   ► little bit of camping here and there I

00:49:32 ◼   ► think I think campfires are fun I like

00:49:35 ◼   ► wood walking I feel proud of the trip

00:49:39 ◼   ► that we did even though it was

00:49:40 ◼   ► exhausting and tiring and I probably

00:49:43 ◼   ► wouldn't do it again but I'm proud that

00:49:44 ◼   ► we did do it yeah but that is that is a

00:49:47 ◼   ► legit entry I'm surprised Disney didn't

00:49:50 ◼   ► make your list because I had Disney on

00:49:54 ◼   ► my consideration listen I got some would

00:49:56 ◼   ► you like to put Disney in either your

00:49:59 ◼   ► number two or number three slots I was

00:50:02 ◼   ► rejected by the top four committee I I

00:50:05 ◼   ► dispute the rejection still it doesn't

00:50:08 ◼   ► matter I'm a committee of one I guess

00:50:10 ◼   ► yeah third in number three I guess all

00:50:11 ◼   ► right there we go I don't know if I'll

00:50:13 ◼   ► see I don't know if I'd hated enough to

00:50:15 ◼   ► put it at number one number one I'm just

00:50:18 ◼   ► asking if you wanted to pop it in to

00:50:20 ◼   ► number two or three since you had some

00:50:22 ◼   ► openings I never wanna do that stuff