00:00:00 ◼ ► I'm never buying a car ever again I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► that's not true that's like me saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► I'm perfectly happy with my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► setup I'm never changing anything I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► come on we know each other and we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► ourselves entirely accurate well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► we're traveling and well two thirds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► us are traveling over the next three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► four weeks and as it turns out in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/25">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► terribly convenient way basically in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► sequence yeah basically we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► doing vacationing in serial and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► parallel yeah this is a this is a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► core single threaded vacation operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► here at the XML tech podcast and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► we're going to have to squeeze in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► 17 weeks worth of shows in the span of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► like three weeks not literally of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► because of Gary the privacy clown I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► not gonna disclose any more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► but suffice to say yeah we did not plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► well whoops it's almost like Adobe wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► our schedule figure that well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► nothing Adobe writes is parallel hey Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► we'll be here all week except not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► cuz it's like I just said we're going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► vacation anyway how are you guys totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► fucked how's the dog John hanging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► there doing dog things how much of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► covered in pee oh it's entirely covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► in pee it goes for the soft items a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► little bit of chewing on the stairs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► cabinets and furniture but really mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► goes for the toilet paper and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► high-value targets soft targets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► shred that toilet paper make a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► mess in a matter of seconds you almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► want to take some like pictures or video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► but then you do have to actually clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/113">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► up and encourage the dog to do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► it is kind of cute it's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► puppies have puppies and babies their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► absolutely accurate all right let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► start with some follow-up and it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► with Andrew Burwell who writes in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/127">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► for best TV settings and this is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► Tings comm slash TV we'll put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► the show notes they use calibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► tools on the TV and adjust each brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► and model of TV to its best settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► manufactured the same way you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► expect reasonable calibration using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► method they give you screenshots of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► particular TV menus with the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► you need to use I have an ancient TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► that is 1080 but it is ancient and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► have never bothered I'm sorry Todd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► John I've never bothered setting it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► properly and I need to dig into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► website and see if they have settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► from ITV because I've never cared enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► to really make it work as we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► last episode and this sounds pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► great that I need to check this out yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► actually so after last episode and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► John scolded me into you know thinking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► needed to calibrate my TV the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► thing I did was not to download an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► to try to do it the first thing I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► was search the web for other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► calibration settings for this TV because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► it's a current model TV and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► lot of nerds out there who would do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► kind of stuff and publish their results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► this was the first thing that came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► and so a few hours before the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► world's are telling me to go to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/199">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► site I had actually already done it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► had tried their settings with very minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► modifications all I did was make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► little bit brighter and make it slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► closer to neutral white balance and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► great and so I haven't changed it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► it's been wonderful so that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► than nothing but I would still encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► people to actually use the calibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► app because they say oh yeah all TV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► they're all the same like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► there's not there's no variance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► manufacturing or age or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► it's it's just not true like this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► get you in the ballpark to actually find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► out if your TV's kalbarri you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► through calibration of some kind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► these probably get really really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► right but even just based on like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/237">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► windows are and if you mostly watch TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► during the day or the night would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► want to have one sort of in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► nighttime setting and by the way look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► this website is way better than things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► used to be when I calibrate it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► last calibrated my TV was still more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► the Wild West this is so nice with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► the pictures of the menus and easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► through forums and download these text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► files with the listings of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► settings and stuff like that but looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► be on this website it shows the TV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► still suck where it's like well if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► put this setting on these settings go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► from a menu to a slider and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► use this setting with that thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► again the words don't make any sense in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► the menus and I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► they have like these Smart TVs have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► little computers in there right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► running entire operating systems and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► the settings are all like well only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► settings and when you put on game mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► only these things are available and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► I mean sometimes it makes sense where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► they're turning things off but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► should all be downloadable standardized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/299">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► manufacturers obviously but just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► there shouldn't be no dumb limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► they don't like only the PC input can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► support a particular color space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► nothing should have weird code words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► everything should be in like normal tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► terms not branding terms shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► like warm to warm size one doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► anybody and the weird limitations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► like Oh only in the ISF expert mode can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► you change this setting but if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► the standard setting these three things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/330">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► aren't available but in this one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► you don't get to pick the gamma it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► like just just make them all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► and look and and you only have like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► different settings like oh I've used of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► all my settings and actually sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► you only get one setting that lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► change everything but that one setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/341">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► doesn't let you enable game mode it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► like there should be an unlimited number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► of settings it's not like a game where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► you're trying to make it so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► only have to save slots that make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► game art or like how is it that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► these complete webOS operating system on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► there and yet you still only have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► know five sets of settings and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► and they're all slightly different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/359">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► each other so well let me provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► counterpoint here have you ever gone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► a one of these places like chopped it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► like a basically like a salad assembly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► thing like it's like Subway for salads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/368">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► I knew Casey would have I knew Troy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► I've never I've never heard of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► thing okay so basically so when I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► a place like this there you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► you can do the thing where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► create your own salad from you know bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► parts or you can have like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► preset salads that's on the wall if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► only option was here is an array of 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► different ingredients and you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/397">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► what kind of salad you want and I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► if I went to that restaurant I I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► have no idea what to make I would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► crap salad it would just be terrible it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► would be bland or uncreated or would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► have weird ratios or whatever else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► always order off the presets and if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► I might adjust things slightly within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► one of the presets I like some guidance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► because I am NOT a salad power user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► so I don't really like I need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► starting points some presets asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► although I'm not asking for they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► three presets I'm asking for there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► be like say there's like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► things you can change in the TV but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► all means ship seventeen presets in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► I would like an app store for presets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► even like where these websites wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► have to exist you can just but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► point is if you decide hey I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► make a new setting called you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/442">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► limitations like up sorry you only get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► five settings and they're the presets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► and if you change one of them then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► change one of the presets the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► to get it back as a factory default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► should be like new thing and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► start like would you like this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► whatever setting and then when you go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► there all thousand switches should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► available to you preset to whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► were from the setting you inherit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► there should be no limitations like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► you have to name his input capital T and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► capital C and it's the only one that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► show the entire you know this is the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► world like the only one that doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► overscan you have to call the input PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► and you only get one of those sorry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► it has to be this particular input or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► whatever right they should be uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► and you should be able to make as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► new ones as you want and you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► lose the presets and in fact it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► an easy opportunity to make presets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► something like downloadable sinkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► shareable with friends like they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► cultivate these forums say if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/495">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► wants to run some fancy calibration app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► and make a branded setting and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► downloadable you should be able to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► that URL and pull down the settings for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► arbitrary limitations that don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► any sense that's what I'm saying not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► that you should have presets well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► I respect the idea of of what is exposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► most of the time to me the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► here's some presets and if you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► them there are a few not even a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► there are a few things you can tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► under each one and then only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► expert ones buried like three levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► deep even within those are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► different options that you want but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► actually don't want most of me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► shouldn't touch those cuz hey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► you really care and be anything I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► adjust there I would probably be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► things worse because I don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/542">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► doing you can hide them under to vance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► preferences you don't expose all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► perfect it's like you have nitpicky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/547">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► settings like they're not not there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► just that you don't see them unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► really dig for them right so you put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► top and really honestly the things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► number of things you need to adjust on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► aside from turning off stuff which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► kind of annoying that you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► dig through it right I mean just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► the the setting preset they recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► it's like every single feature this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► no sharpness enhancement no vibrancy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► edge whatever no motion anything just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► annoying that you have to do that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► but that aside you really just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► change two or three settings brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► contrast different color balance things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► and that's it it's not like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► hundred things you can do for picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► quality mostly you're just turning crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► hierarchy of settings have here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► three or four things you probably might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► want to change and advanced picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► advanced motion advanced whatever when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► you dig down and down if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► make it higher even though things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► fine but I don't like it when options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► aren't available to you or like well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► this mode you get three settings for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► this thing but in this mode you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► slider that has you know five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► settings for it why we just decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► that's what it is you know we got a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► other interesting pieces of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► around this Malcolm Hall wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► tell us that some people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► buying Samsung has a product called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► smart signage which is basically a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► sized monitor and that's it so the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► is you take a monitor that's you know 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► 50 60 70 inches but it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► anything smart in it presumably it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► has like HDMI or or equivalent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► there's no smartness it's just a dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► display and if you're hooking this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► like a sound bar or a or a stereo system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► I mean I guess some of you could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► crazy enough to do surround sound but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► anyway if you hook it up to some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► external speaker system then you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► have to fight all the silly smartness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► which isn't exactly what you two were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► talking about because you two were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► talking about calibrating the screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► additionally safecom wrote in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► a frame TV which is designed to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► like nothing at all or not a TV at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► until you want it to be a TV and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► will go from like a still picture to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► regular traditional TV and that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► isn't the best word picture that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► just painted but we'll put links to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► these in the show notes I saw that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► but like it's so it's hard to tell from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► video but like is it is it still like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► light-emitting display when it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► like the frame mode yeah that's entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► like a marketing BS because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► way you wouldn't know that's a TV like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/699">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► they always put it in lighting it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► it looks just like the paintings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► because they put it in like a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► frame like oh it's like a painting right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► but you know it's not especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► there's a LCD TV with terrible black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► levels like that we no way there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► bright sunlight shining on your wall on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► an actual painting of a sailboat next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► television I don't know who they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► they're fooling with that but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► guess it looks nice if you have decor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► televisions that you buy look like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► know whatever they look like technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► equipment or whatever and if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► want that look if you want to look more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► like a piece of furniture that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► people do this is a good look for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► television but no you're something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► think that people are going to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► it's a painting because they will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► because it does not look like a TV maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► it was color a ink that would work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► we don't have that tech I feel like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► any technology that tries to hide a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► that's solving the wrong problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► remember when when computers first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► well when Casey and I were children and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► and and a lot of times our parents would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/755">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► make the computer live in some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► giant cabinet that would like close with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► big door like wooden doors sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► they put TVs in there too but usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► like the computer was what was hidden in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► this in this giant wooden cabinet by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► wall and fro and and that was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► certain generation like the default mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► oftentimes like our parents generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► and then now it's like well no you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► have to use that like that that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► normal to see in a house it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► weird if you saw a house that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► have a TV in it now and so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► trying to hide a TV like it's you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► just kind of fighting a losing battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/797">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► like you're gonna either have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► strange looking picture on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► or you're gonna have some kind of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► complex thing like one of those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► raising and lowering things for the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► slides up out of a dresser you know see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► that like that that's just doomed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► break and fail and we it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► that's that's no good either like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► have a TV that you don't mind the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► of and if you don't want a TV in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► anything else besides just trying to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► it is is not gonna go well for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► same deal with baldness by the way TV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► bless you think that's an old thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► people still totally do that in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► recent this old house house I recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► they have a television that they were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► putting over their fireplace which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► way too high for TV and B wanted to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► with the set of folding doors that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► had a painting and to raid it into them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► so when it was closed they're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► a painting like an actual painting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/846">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► whatever eventually I just made use wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► paneled doors because I guess someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► talking about the painting idea but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► televisions and I guess people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► like it you know like decor wise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► doesn't look nice to have a big black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► rectangle and and I think even these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► picture frame ones to have a big monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► turned on too you know a picture of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► sunset or something we just don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► the text it's not gonna look right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► people in the chat room are pointing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► to color inks yes we have color ink not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► televisions you can't they don't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► motion they did to have that hybrid one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► remember that one that was like color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► ink but also LCD for motion so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► like this weird and obviously didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► catch on eventually we could have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► kind of display technology that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► reflective sort of like in the off mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► where you could put a picture on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► that would look just like a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► picture on the wall or at least it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► look like a poster at very least maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► or a very large photograph ad but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► could also do the motion of television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► but we don't have that yet but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► still want to hide the TVs and I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► agree with you Mariana I think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► ridiculous to hide your television like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► part of it is almost like you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► just the decor of a big black rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► but also the idea that people don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► to think of their lives as centering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► around television like that's somehow a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► shameful thing because of all like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► the television shaming from from I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► of both of our childhoods of like you TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► rots your brain and don't watch TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► people you know you don't want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► know how much television you watch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► if you don't watch that much television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► maybe don't have a 70 inch televisions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/932">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► wallspace reflected by your television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► choices are not in line with the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► you want to project to the outside world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► television we just have the 70 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/944">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► rectangle here because we were forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► have it probably the neighbors I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► know anyway I never want my television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/950">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► cabinets where you put your computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/955">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► one of the things that I think helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► computers are so hot now that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► putting them inside an enclosed cabinet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► would destroy everything no they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► hotter than because back then they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► themselves were cooler I mean some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► them you know they didn't even have fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► over the heatsinks for the CPUs back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► the ya-ya series are hot too but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/973">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► the entertainment center for television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► entertainment centers were for like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► VCR and your game consoles like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► were entirely enclosed too maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► had holes punched out in the back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► the wires to go through and most things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► didn't get that hot like you didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► you know your Xbox 360 in there as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► know your the NES was not getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► hot compared to modern consoles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► environment for electronics and today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► it's mostly worse because our DVR is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► maybe not our blu-ray players but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► certainly our game consoles are hotter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► but the TV's like bar goes are way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► cooler temperature wise than a CRT or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► our plasma or anything like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► those actually could go in cabinets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► just the now they're the thickness of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► piece of paper cabinets don't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► sense anymore I always love to like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► the entertainment centers that are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► like our parents would have that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► mostly during the era of CRT TVs so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► they were giant like they made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► decision that this tremendous wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► monolith thing in the living room that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► was somehow better than just having a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► like that was fooling nobody yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► was and they were huge like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► often way bigger than the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► like they were big enough that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► like shelve rows and rows of VHS tapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► and stuff and then the other great thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► my parents did this too they have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► their house right now you you would buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► especially the ones that filled an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► entire wall that's a substantial piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► of furniture if you got a nice one not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► an inexpensive piece of furniture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► because it's literally massive right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► if you got one you were deciding how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► your television was going to be until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► you know unless you want to replace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► huge expensive piece of furniture or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► know unless it's built into your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► right and so if you bought one before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► HGTV you had a four by three hole for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► television and then you have to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► sixteen by nine TV in there and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► got shrunk down and if you bought before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► televisions got really big and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► just barely thick like a 40 inch HDTV in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► there now you can't get a good TV or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► feel like hang out a big TV my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► have to buy based on which TV will fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► inside their slightly dated piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► television some so with putting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► electronics inside a box of any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► future-proof idea and it's so true my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► brother-in-law has a house bill Prime in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► the late 90s I think and he has in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► family room our living room where ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► he has like I guess he could call to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► built-in but basically in the wall is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► like sunk in and it's about the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► maybe a 40 or 50 inch TV these days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► I'm sure left to his own devices he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► would have like a 9,000 inch monstrosity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► but because it's in a built in that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► his wall there's not really a lot he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► do like to make it bigger he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► to cut into his wall also John you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► officially uninvited from ever coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► my house because I have a TV that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► calibrated is it mounted above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► fireplace probably I don't know two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► three feet off the ceiling which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► a seven or eight-foot ceiling I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► eight-foot ceiling I have to point one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► sound I have a turntable like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► pretty much your hell is my family room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► and I like it quite a lot but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► never coming over because I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► to I don't want to never hear the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► this we have no option so so our family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► room I wasn't trying to make this an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► actual conversation but hey here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► our family room and Marco can vouch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► this it's very very wide and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► shallow if that makes sense and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► convenient way to have a TV in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► unless you put it in the corner and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► twist the furniture in the room till be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► in the corner but it's a very shallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► room so the the best place for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► terms of room and furniture flow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► above the fireplace and that's where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► is but but I understand and I rec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► knives that for the optimum TV viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► experience that is probably not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► right place for it we were sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► this week by fracture go to fracture me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► calm slash podcast fracture is a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► decor company that prints photos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► vivid color directly on glass they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1218">TS</a>]
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00:27:04 ◼ ► the mount that we have in our wall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► think only support you know pristine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► 1080 versions of a show and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► stretched to non-native res and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► stripping all the edges when you wash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► absolutely accurate absolutely I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► proud of this I know I sound all smug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► and proud I'm not it's just I have spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► what I consider to be an inordinate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► amount of time trying to fix this which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► is to say like five or ten minutes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► yeah I couldn't figure it out and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► I just don't care enough I just don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► want it to be fixed it's not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► don't want it to be fixed I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► care enough so I would invite you Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► down John to fix it but a you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► never travel that far unless under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► duress and be you would hate everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► you saw and potentially firebomb my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► house I've only Marco had purchased this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► television two years earlier because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► ran it by now he'll be buying another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► television you know it's sitting behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► my chair in my living room you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► probably weighs a ton well yeah excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► if you want to come pick it up you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► have it well we'll talk about that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► all right tell me about your small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► oh yeah million people ask I I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► very quickly in passing last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► that my preferred setup was just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► tiny little Class D amplifier cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► driving just two speakers without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► subwoofer without surround anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► that and a million people have asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► since then which amp it is and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► reason I didn't say is because it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► NuForce dia or dia I don't know dia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► it's been it was discontinued like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► years ago and and new for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► company of new force was bought by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► other company that apparently all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► fans of new force hate and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► they've ruined all their products since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► then so I didn't feel comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► recommending it because it's not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► can you not get in anymore but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► things that you can get now have pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► crappy reviews from people who used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► so there is now this there's this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► class of small like Class D amplifiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► and like getting into the details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► like what like Class A and Class A B and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► all these different amplifier topologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► are Class D basically allows you to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► an amp very very small and low heat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► low power and audio files don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► as much as the other kinds but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► purposes of like you know speakers on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► it's totally fine and and so Class D am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► sorry there's lots of them if you search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Amazon for a class D amp there there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► ton that are with roughly between one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and four hundred dollars that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► approximately 25 to 50 watts per channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► and many of them support remote controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► and so for my little new force one has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► little generic remote and I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► very easily able to have the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► learn that up and down volume controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► and that's it so that's what I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► now if I had to buy new today I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► probably want a little bit more power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► for driving like floor standards but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► you're just driving bookshelves then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► those little like 20 watt ones are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► on Amazon and again there's a lot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► just look for Class D am from oats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► they're there there's a lot out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► all right now I didn't get a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► read this but Jonathan Dietz jr. writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► in about Type C personality so can one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► of you take me through this if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► mind is that like a railer personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► that you can insert either direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► it's a post title so he's been emailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► back and forth with me about a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► type-c stuff since the show that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► talked about it he had remember that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► long email that he read he wrote an even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► longer email after i'm like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► make this blog post because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► way we can even summarize a feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► email this complicated and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► just really make it a blog post like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► don't just email your you know insights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► and ideas to a single or a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► everybody to see because then we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► just link to it in the show notes which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► interested can read it so if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► hear even more about the nitty gritty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► details of USB type-c and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► different alternate modes and what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► would take to get hubs of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► kinds of stuff take a look at this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► long detailed post I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► people have brought this up as well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► the idea that it's still early enough in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► us the USB 3.1 spec in the type C spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► and all the other stuff that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► aren't a lot of chipsets that support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► all the different protocols and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► certified by all the standards bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► and so on and so forth and that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► companies that make hubs just by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► tips from somebody else or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► reference design from somebody else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► has already done all the work to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► sure you know the thing actually works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► and is certified according to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► standards bodies or whatever and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► just package it in a box and and slap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► a crappy power supply it's gonna break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► in six months or ever but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► they do they don't they don't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► chips they want the chips to already be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► made and a bunch of companies are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► to be making these types of chips for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► us the new USB specs and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► coming online now so it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► there could be many more options for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► know USB type-c hubs to do fan-out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► them and more complicated Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► hubs and stuff like that so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► firewire where yeah and that'd be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► many many years into it the only a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► companies make a set of chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► everything still cost a million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► recommend the post he took the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► write a blog post and so now the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► excellent Brian Ross Lee writes in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► say are the rumored OLED iPhones going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► to have issues with image retention if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► so what measures should we take to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► prevent it the question is are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► going to have more issues with image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► retention than LCDs do you do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► that your current iOS device if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► image retention because I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► that many iOS devices over many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► years have had image retention issues in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► fact maybe yours does now and me telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► you this is gonna make you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► and realize I'll god I have an image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► retention on my iPad you probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► people don't like to think about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► it is there if you look for it it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► get really bad on some devices after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► some time and other devices hardly show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► it at all I suppose if you wanted like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► ignorance is bliss so you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► shouldn't do this kind of like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► old days when you'd look for dead pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► but Marco has a handy webpage that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► put a checkerboard pattern on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and you'll leave it there for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► checkerboard guess what you've got image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► retention no you don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► anywhere else it'll switch over to gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► for you that's right you click on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► which is the gray after you stare at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► for a little but but the whole point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► like to convince yourself that Marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► not just trolling you you just launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► another app or go to springboard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► whatever and you'll still see it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► I've never owned you know if you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► all that I have is my Apple watch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► like that's the only thing I have that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► an OLED I have heard that oh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► image retention issues and I've heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► talked about because it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► successor to plasma like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► successor to plasma because the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► quality was worse and now here's OLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► with image quality that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► better and the old slam against plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► in addition to all the heat and expense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► and power use and everything was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► had image retention and of course LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► hasn't retention as well but the all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► have a plasma has bad image or Pena so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► all that I've heard talked about as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► it's almost as bad as plasma and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► thinking that it's worse than LCD in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► terms of search engine but having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► never owned one I have no idea guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► marker will tell us if the men user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► burned into his OLED TV so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► oh let iPhones are going to have image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► retention issues the same exact way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► the LCD iPhones at the very least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► know I don't see if oh I've had less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► image retention issues and then LCD it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► seems like something that you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you'd be hearing about instead but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► hear the opposite that oh oh let watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► out image retention so no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► well the whoever manufactures these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► screens does surely it will have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► same image retention on average as all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► the other iPhones now I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► from year to year device to device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► manufacturer to manufacturer how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► image retention has varied on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► devices I try not to look for it I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► it occasionally still mostly on my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► I don't know that's because it's I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► know I use my iPad more because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► screen is bigger and it's easier to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► up on these things but I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► people don't know that LCDs have managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► retention on their iOS devices and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► therefore I'll probably won't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► that are on there oh let's oh I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► what measure should we take to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► it don't use your device you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► Wow I mean like what can you do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► you know what can you do to prevent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► if you put an image on your screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► you leave it there for a long time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► like that's often what we do with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► phones is leave an image there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► long time whether you're reading a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► page in an e-book and it takes you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► certain amount of time to read a page or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► you're looking at a video and like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► children you refuse to put the video in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► full screen the surrounding frame of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► YouTube that's not video is static the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► whole time you're watching a 20 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► video no like with my television I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► tell you as a long time plasma TV owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► I don't play video games with a static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► television I don't leave the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► pause like I don't hit the pause button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► on a TiVo or whatever and then leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► if I'm going to leave like Apple TV has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► a screen saver that will turn on which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► is actually a useful thing for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► because it's actually saving my screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► but if I'm gonna leave the room for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► than you know two minutes I turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► television yeah I'll have to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► everything else off just turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► power off on television then turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► back on when you come in but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► doesn't apply to iOS devices because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► it's not like you're leaving it paused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► you're leaving the room and the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► will turn off and a minute anyway to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► save your battery so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► there's anything anybody can do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► we just have to cross our fingers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► help the first batch of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► don't end up having weird discoloration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► or image retention issues and hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► you get to them but from the good screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► manufacturer if there is such a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► this time around and I'll just deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► it okay and finally tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► Apple's silence on net neutrality the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► posts on OS news.com asking where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► Apple on this hole and the neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► thing we talked about it I think last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► show and unlike lots of other issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► cheerleader in favor of net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► to the point where the you know question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► was also where it does Apple say on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► and like I don't know I've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► them say anything of substance about net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► neutrality at all again unlike many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► other issues then this post goes on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► speculate why that might be at Apple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► it incumbent with the potential you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► lots of money and lots of digital goods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► that they want to send over the wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► the like neutrality would favor them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► because they do have the money to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► competitors and blow of all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► sort of conspiracy theories or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► but as the biggest tech company in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► world I feel like they should be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► more vocal than they are I shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► here thinking where does Apple stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► neutrality I should already know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► they should already have blocked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► their web pages and maybe they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► and I'm just missing it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► you guys we might recall anything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► Apple about a neutral TF er no no yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► don't know that's disappointing well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► mean I don't fault them for like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► making their pages black and stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► certain days because like Apple does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► respond well to social pressure to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► them change their stuff for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► some you know someone else's terms like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► that's apples not gonna play a ball with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► that but it's not someone else doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► like they they changed the homepage when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► George Harrison died like it shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► it should be intrinsic not extrinsic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► therefore they are going to do this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► that they feel PP they feel PP to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► George Harrison them no it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► something they decided to do as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► company and I hope that that still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► within the company that these important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► causes and important days make the token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► effort express the values of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► company and that Tim Cook's Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► been doing that iam we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► more than Steve Jobs as Apple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► expressing the values of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► externally in a in a more bold way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► seemed to be more about Tim Cook's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► values maybe Tim Cook doesn't value net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► neutrality I don't know if you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► heard him talk about it it's hard to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► there's a quote from him in this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► that just as a bunch of nothing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► sponsored this week by aftershokz bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► aftershokz headphones work by bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► conduction so small transducers rest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► front of your ears not inside or around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► your ears like most headphones and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► send mini vibrations through your cheek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► completely so unlike every other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► headphone bone conduction leave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► ears completely open with nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► them so this brings some major benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► in practice so first of all a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► people like me can't wear earbuds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► in-ear monitors because they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► hurt they physically hurt our ears over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► aftershokz headphones don't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► problem because nothing is in your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► there are so awesome for exercise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► hot weather they stay in place very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► easily with movement unlike earbuds for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► me and because they don't cover your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► up I actually find them far less sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► than regular headphones and if I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► sweat or if it starts raining I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► need to care because they are ip55 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► certified for water resistance and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► biggest difference for me with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► aftershocks is that and this is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► factor that you should determine whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► they are right for you at all is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► because nothing is blocking your ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► you hear all of the sound of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► around you so they're not great in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► loud surroundings but they are awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► if you want to listen to a podcast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► take a phone call while you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► something like walking or running or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► cycling where you really need to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► the world around you for your own safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► or convenience and they also work great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► if you need to listen for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► outside at home or at work while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► want to listen to a podcast or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► maybe if while you're taking a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► call maybe your kids are asleep upstairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► and you want to hear if they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2458">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► anything or maybe you're expecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► package and you don't want to miss a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► knock on the door bone conduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► headphones are incredibly useful tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► for I would say listening to podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► and taking phone calls when you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► want to block out the world around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► so check out the flagship model in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► aftershocks lineup this is the Trek's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► titanium I've had one of these for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► months and I find myself using it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► than any other portable headphone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► summertime and they are so good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► minimizing sweatiness and letting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► hear what's going on in the world around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► me battery life is quoted at six hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► of playback 10 days in standby that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► experience I charged over a few days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► also all aftershokz headphones have a 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► year warranty so check it out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► aftershocks trex titanium retails for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► 130 bucks but listeners of this show can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► snag a pair for just 99 95 by visiting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► tepee aftershocks calm that's a tepee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► aftershocks calm thanks to aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► for sponsoring our show so we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► recording Monday the 17th which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► unusual we usually record on Wednesdays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and we'll be recording again I think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► Thursday yes on Thursday the 20th and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► this is because of its some vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► stuff and since we have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► recording the show we thought we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► do our possible and you all don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► call it a tradition but it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► becoming a tradition ask a teepee and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► a Q&A with listeners so rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► asking us or asking you guys rather to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► inundate us with email we are taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► page out of the my Curley playbook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► instead we would like you to use Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► and tweet with the hashtag ask a teepee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► a ska teepee and if you tweet into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► ether with hashtag ask a teepee then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► will be added to a nice little document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► and we will go through it and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► read and answer your question sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► is it next step so that we're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► is that right so the we have planet for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► next episode however I would like to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► with all with the greatest apologies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► the upgrade podcast for totally ripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► them off I would like to make this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► regular segment that I think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► have asked a TP in every show people ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► those questions all the time yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► isn't the joy not having to answer them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► okay not to be mean or anything but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► questions all the time but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► understand how often people ask those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► questions it would be a full-time job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► for multiple people to try to answer all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► the questions that are asked to us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► just not possible we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► answer all of them but right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► so this don't think this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► suddenly make it so that we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► answer all your questions but hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► I mean the plan so like we'll answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► point zero zero one percent instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► point zero zero zero percent right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► like like every week we could answer one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► or two questions like depending on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► long the answers are like because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► like that would help prevent us from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► getting too much hmm in our own selves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► about our topic selection and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► prevent us from getting too far into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► just endless cycles of follow up every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► episode like just have a segment that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► just that is guaranteed to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► fresh even in a very slow news period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► like the summer time by the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► thing we're gonna out going to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► these shows in the next episode we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► actually gonna answer this show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► answer these questions on August 4th the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► recording on August 4th come and swim on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► I'm just gonna do the whole point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► you've got like three weeks to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► questions so go nuts yeah and I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► truth of matter is whether Marco or John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► wins this Civil War as to whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► this becomes a regular thing no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► totally for it being a regular segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► I'm just saying like it don't expect I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► saying to the listeners don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► unrealistic expectations that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► questions are gonna get answered because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► we get so many questions that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► not possible to answer them all or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► even any reasonable portion of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► is true but either way we will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► Google document a Google sheet I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► should say that will track all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► for us so please go to Twitter if at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► possible and use ahead and use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► hashtag ask ATP if you don't have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► to Twitter then now's a good time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► sign up follow que cela CAS ey li SS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► also tweet hashtag sk TP but really if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► you can't and won't suffer through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► twitter yes you can email us but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► are dodging the official list and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► extraordinarily unlikely unless your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► question is perfect in every way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► will answer your questions so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► pressures that's cold man I just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► want to get a bazillion emails please no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► well and the great thing about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Twitter is that it forces you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► brief you know because we don't like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► already have a segment of the show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► we read multi paragraph emails to you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► we don't need to add more so instead if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► the the an ideal question it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► probably be about one sentence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► Twitter is great for that so we look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► forward to your questions with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► apologies to the upgrade podcast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► ripping off the segment from them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► can use more than one tweet though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► because I feel like there's no tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► storm but 2040 is you take the hash tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► already sometimes you just need you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► last time we did Q&A I thought we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► some really good questions they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► like two sentences long that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► fit in a tweet and I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► exclude those John that's the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that's that's the that's the price you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► pay to getting your stuff mentioned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► listeners 140 characters minus seven so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► what is 133 characters you have to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► space for the hashtag that's true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► make it happen formatting counts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► make sure you get your casing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► because let me tell you you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► John siracusa on your case about casing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► especially if you're Casey anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► like a letter U instead of Y oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► forget okay let's uh let's talk briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► about one password because there seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► to be a bit of a kerfuffle that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► happened over the last week or two and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► don't get it and it kind of makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► angry so my understanding having not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► read deeply into this is that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► passwords windows version the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► Windows version no longer supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► writing to local vaults and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► probably take a half step back actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► so one password is the password manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► it's the one that I use it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► the one that my two co-hosts use yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► don't want to say that for certainty oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► yeah John you're using keychain like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► I declined to comment really whichever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► second is oh no Gary the privacy client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► all right well some of us on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► who will remain nameless definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► SH Marco or SH Maisie definitely use one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► password and and one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► one password has started offering which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► I think we talked about in the past is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► family plans and business plans and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► the idea here is that the way one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► password works is that they call kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► a group of passwords and other things as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► well a vault that's you could think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► that kind of like a database and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► pay them money on a recurring basis as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► employer or as just a family member and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► you can have a one or more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► vaults or databases stored on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► password servers and then you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► users that are added to your account and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► then you can share passwords so as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► passwords per family account where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► hypothetically they slash we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► individual vaults for our own individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► passwords that we don't wish to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► and one family vault for passwords that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► we do wish to share and in my opinion it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► has worked extremely well I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► one password apps and all the platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► are very well designed I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► the agile bits folks seem to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► good I think they deserve recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► revenue from me and that's why I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► paying subscriber to 1password families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► my employer pays for one password four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► teams basically on my recommendation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► really like it I really think it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and among other things and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► the specifics about how the mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► here but one of the things they've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► is that in broad strokes they use a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► similar encryption scheme as iCloud does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► so even if one password as a company or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► actual bits as a company wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► into your passwords that are stored on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► their servers there is nothing they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► do to do that without your guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► one password so they've come out the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► version for Windows they have stated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► publicly that this version will not let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► you write to vaults or databases that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► are stored locally and yeah and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► to understand that one password kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► came up by being by being able to store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► its password database its vault in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► Dropbox so you could have your passwords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► synced everywhere even without their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► services so a bunch of angry nerds some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► of whom are cheap and some of whom are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► not are getting very angry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► fact that you can't have local vaults on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► one password for Windows and thus it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► clear without a shadow of a doubt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► tomorrow or soon thereafter you won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► able to save two local vaults on any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► the other platforms now my read on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► is that yes there will probably come a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► time that you will not be able to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► local vaults one password because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► you're agile bits you probably want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► recurring revenue to continue to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► really world-class apps and thus you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► probably going to want to compel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► users to pay you on a regular basis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► you know what I'm cool with that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► they do really great work they take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► very seriously and they deserve a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► bit of my money every year as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► concerned but oh man the Nerds are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► upset so let me start with Marco as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► hypothetical one password user Gary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► privacy clown I would never disclose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► whether or not Marco is publicly Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► what do you think you know a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► issue came up when TextExpander went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► subscription I believe about a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah with an it was met with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► similar anger and we talked about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► but but I think it's increasingly clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► that there are very few models for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► software to sustain itself economically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► because the reality is we talked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► requires ongoing maintenance it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► people have this idea that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► gonna buy this app and I'll pay you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► subscription I want I want to just pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► you once then I own it and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► a wonderful idea and for a long time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► computing that was somewhat reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► but today those same people who only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► want to pay once upfront and then quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► own it also expect the manufacturer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► said software to constantly issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► updates whenever the environment changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► so a new OS version comes out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► expect a free upgrade a new you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► features come out you know they expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► that on a regular basis any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► service based component that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► change with the times they expect all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► that to be built in ongoing bug fixes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► course like people expect ongoing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► sustainable it's simple as that like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► matter what people say they might say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► just want to buy it in at once a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► people do say that but what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► what they demand is ongoing maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► of that product so the only way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► this work really is either to just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► so many paid installs and upgrades that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► you couldn't just last on that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► while and just accept that you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► customers up front and then they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► bother you again and some customers will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► be using your product for eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► and never give you another dime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► expect constant free updates and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► just have to kind of average it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► hope the average works out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► works more often than not in the growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► phase of a product so in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► when like for for a new app or a or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► a very successful app that can work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► a long time like when I had Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► that works for a long time because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► was just growing like crazy as the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► platform was growing like crazy so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► pay once and get free updates forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► 1password probably has a similar curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► here where you know for a while one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► password has been growing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► because I just keep seeing it everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► assume it's been doing really well for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► saturating Mac sales are flat iOS sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► significantly over the last few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► you know these markets are saturating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► and so everyone who was depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► that constant growth of the platform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► just drive new licenses for a pay once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► business model I think a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► companies are gonna now face this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► problem of you hey you know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► seeing this curve flatten out now our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► income might be dropping or leveling off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► and we are still having to support this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► software with a staff and with costs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► with ongoing maintenance there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► some way to fund that and if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► being able to fund it through the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► users coming in that you didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► before giving you this you know these 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► 40 bucks at a time for the for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► one-time license then subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► really are the best way to do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► there is an alternative you can do paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► upgrades which one password has done for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► awhile and most these companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► like on the met on iOS it's less common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► but on the Mac that's how things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► worked for a while but paid upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► have their own problems too for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► batching incentive where you as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► software developer are incentivized not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► to really improve the existing version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► of the app in meaningful ways if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► save those up for the next paid upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► then you have to like batch up your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► releases and possibly not put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► anything for like two years then all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► a sudden have this boom big drop where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► you drop a whole bunch of features then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► you have other problems like feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► bloat then he's like what you know look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► what happened with Microsoft and Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► after for the last 20 years I'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► lots of companies have gone through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► and what you end up coming oh and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► like users who hate subscriptions who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► say they never want to pay that users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► have similar problems with upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► pricing because there's problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► that too like neither of these things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► perfect for what users expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► upgrade pricing has the problem of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► if you buy it and then the next version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► comes out six months later should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► get more of a discount then like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► who bought it five years ago because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► just bought it you might be really mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► if the upper a comes out soon after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► bought it you might expect that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► ancient version running on like OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► Tiger should still work today on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► newest version of OS 10 but they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► say you might you sorry you have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► an upgrade for the new one like sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► what it rolls what really boils down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► is when you make people pay they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► grumble about it no matter how you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► people pay they're going to grumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► about it and the one thing they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► grumble about the most and get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► mad about is when you change the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► make them pay but once you can get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► that that problem of hey people are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► mad right now during this transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► once you get past that and you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► other side of the transition if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► moving to subscriptions yeah people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► be mad and some people will never buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► they'll be so mad they'll hold that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► grudge forever I mean look adobe has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► this problem right with with Creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► Cloud stuff but adobe doing great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► now because they made this transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► they're doing fantastically they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► better off on the other side of it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► though some people are still mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► will be mad forever about solutions some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► people will never use it as a result but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► the people who are left they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► Adobe more money and they're and adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► same thing with Microsoft I think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► office and that kind of stuff and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► honestly I haven't been paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► to this entire kerfuffle or to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► happened with TextExpander I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► if smile for release numbers or give any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► indication on whether they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► better now with the new subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► model as they were before but if one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► password or or smile you know if these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► companies can go can get to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► side of this transition and if even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► they lose customers along the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► will probably be in a better place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► financially and will be more stable than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► they were before with the old you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► pay maybe every few years for a paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► upgrade model and so even if this loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► them customers it still might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► best approach to take now that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► said there are complicating factors with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► this particular arrangement one password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► because of the nature of it is dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► sensitive data that a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► customers have either requirements or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► requests that the vault that is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► that the database of your passwords not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► leave their network and they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► forever this local vaults feature where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► you can you can literally not use a sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► service at all you can have basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like your Mac sync its local vault over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► the local Wi-Fi to your iOS devices or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► you can have or you just not use sync at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► all and and just you know not use it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► iOS or whatever and a lot of companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► that's the method they have to use I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► heard here and there that some groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► with an apple use one password but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► they they depend on that feature being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► there because they you know Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► don't think would permit its employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► external service or synced via Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► or anything like that so I do think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► password moving to a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► pricing model is totally fine and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► people are gonna get mad but it's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► probably fine and by the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► haven't said they're doing that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► they've they basically just like laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► some groundwork in some commentary that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► suggests that they're considering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► in the future but they're not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► haven't actually said that yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► anyway I do think a move to subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► pricing is probably fine and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► the right move for a lot of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► companies that that require ongoing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► for their products to work and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► way you might say person listening who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► hates descriptions you might say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► it's just a password manager why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► have to pay every month for this well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► what happens when the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► Chrome comes out and their extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► breaks they have to fix their extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► what happens when a new and when like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► people find websites the extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► doesn't work on and they have to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► that new versions of iOS come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► password is a very complicated app with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► it runs on many different operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► systems and it runs in every web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► and it runs an iOS extensions and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► platforms all these different parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► it that are all too interdependent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► AB which is a constantly changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► environment so they have to put constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► efforts that whether you realize it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► not if they stopped or if your version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► stopped getting updates you'd be mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► because it wouldn't work as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► subscription pricing I'm on board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that and by the way I do pay for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► eruption I started paying for it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► six months ago when I started reducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► my dependence on Dropbox I switched to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► their sync system and it's been totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► fine however the removal of local vaults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► if that is the plan I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► mistake for this app because that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► probably cost them a lot of customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► that can never come back even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► change their mind about how they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► pay so I do think they should probably I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► mean they know better than whether than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► what their customers want but me sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► over here as an armchair observer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► probably a bad idea but subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► pricing is fine I think the reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► might be tempted to entangle these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► things is current pricing and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► whole cloud sync or whatever is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► companies still feel for all a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► the reasons that you just mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► they want to have a story about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► you're paying every month and any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► of cloud sync thing where they store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► your data on their servers that they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► it's like oh well you're paying us every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► month because we're taking your data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► we're storing it in our servers and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► have to pay money to run those servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► and it's like it's it's something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► can explain to people have a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► chance of explaining to people like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► am I paying for this every month right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► but in reality the reason they need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► to pay for every month is everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► that Margo just said it's nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► with oh we have to run servers there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► no servers involved whatsoever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► device-to-device sync and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► run any servers you should still pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► monthly like in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► would for like Photoshop or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3706">TS</a>]
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01:04:38 ◼ ► with specific privacy concerns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3878">TS</a>]
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01:04:46 ◼ ► against them in terms of privacy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3886">TS</a>]
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01:05:02 ◼ ► our living some other people paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3902">TS</a>]
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01:05:14 ◼ ► have maybe they have a computer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► whatever the idea of paying anything at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► all ever for software still seems alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► to a lot of people so again the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3920">TS</a>]
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01:05:30 ◼ ► and probably to make an application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► appeals to people who are acquainted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► with the concept of paying money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3936">TS</a>]
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01:05:44 ◼ ► never paid for software and think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3944">TS</a>]
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01:06:04 ◼ ► a password manager unless maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/3964">TS</a>]
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01:15:33 ◼ ► because I so deeply disagree with one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► particular episode which I believe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► number 87 I'll have a link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► notes it's never longer than 30 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► so let's get started anyway uh the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► episode I started a hate listening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► enjoying because my opinion spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► alert is that you talked yourself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► implementing this using the new api's by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► the end of the episode now it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► like maybe that isn't quite so cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► dried since you're talking about it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► us now but to me this is not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► this is absolutely using you API and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► meeting and there's a couple reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► that number one it may feel weird now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► that you have a little bit of a delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► and whatnot but I don't think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► feel weird soon now in your defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► drag and drop I suspect is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► lot less prevalent on the iPhone than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► is on the iPad so those of us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► perhaps only he's overcast on the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► and maybe don't use iPads that often it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► may feel a little weird at first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► like you said moving the UI around is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► always gonna tick somebody off but more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► than somebody well you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► many somebody's off but as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► third-party libraries because you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► like you have no control over them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► oftentimes they are pile of hacks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► really it's kind of a dangerous position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► to put yourself in to have a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► library especially one that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► really really um I can't think the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► to phrase it but like it's wide reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► and it's it's taking a system thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► it's totally rejiggering it and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► like wed to this library you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► created your own first party equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► of that and you must burn it with fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► as soon as you possibly can this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► a question you must get rid of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► must use new api's end a meeting John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► what do you think what a question and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► you use the native dragging thing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► you do a thing where you like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► tap and hold so it like it pops up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► ieave you've grabbed it can you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► another finger flick scroll the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► behind it yes and it's amazing so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► solves your problem of like this of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► bump bump bump bump bump scrolling speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► so you have to do it then and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► pick up multiple items well yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► think I don't be doing that too much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► maybe on the iPad but yeah no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► totally need to do the native things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► think the native native dragging yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► alright the second question is okay so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► do native Gregg now I have these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► options I don't need the drag handles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► anymore or whatever what do I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► that space and for that I think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► have to use it to see what it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► understood what you're getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► the pay but I didn't play about I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► over here the info button will be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► little you know expanded bar thing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► that will be fine maybe will be weird I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► don't know I think it's worth separating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► like determined determining like exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► what to do with this newfound space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► freedom and gesture freedom because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► not entirely sure but native and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► you know seems like a no-brainer like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► city get rid of your hacks it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► better interface and as drag-and-drop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► theory becomes more prevalent into what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► and I also forgot to mention that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► one of those people who is still grumbly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► about the fact that there's a to tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► play scheme and so bringing back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► play button on the right will make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► very happy and we all know that overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► is written specifically to make KC happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► so yeah I think you're I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► gonna have to do it Marco if I do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► can can you stop asking me for a Mac up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► well when's the last time I've asked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► for one cuz every you know I'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4738">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► yeah I'll tell you when the last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► asked for a Mac app was probably about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► day or two before I got my air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► because now the reason I wanted a Mac up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► so badly was because you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► Bluetooth headphones that I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► previously we're such a pain to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► between my Mac and my iPhone but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► with the air pods it takes two seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► to switch between them so what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► listening to overcast I'm connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► my phone and when I'm listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► anything else in the world I'm connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► to my Mac and it's nowhere speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► apps that Marco doesn't want to develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► and/or maintain I have a report for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► Mac version or another or the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► version of overcast Oh God alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► frequently people will tweet over gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► links with offsets which is cool it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► like that's exactly what you want I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► gonna tap this link and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► take me right to the second in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► podcast that they're trying to refer me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► to right as long as this is a major NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► podcast yes yeah but if it is a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► that I subscribe to and in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► - is it just my imagination or does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► throw off my offset because I'm logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► into my over assed account and it sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► me to an offset and I play it it syncs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► that offset and now I've lost where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► was because I was earlier or later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► the thing is that a thing or is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► imagination that is indeed what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► and I've thought about this before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► whether that should be what happens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► not and it it's it's hard because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► like if you when you put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► yeah that shouldn't happen you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► but what would the alternative be and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► would you say okay well what should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► happen like if you're if you're logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► in and if you have this podcast in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► list so it so it's not unplayed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► rather it's not played like it's it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► active item in your list and you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► position in it then you get sent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► timestamp link for different time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► that then should it play that but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► not ever update your synced position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► what if you play past your synced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► position should it update it then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► it's it's fairly complex as to what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► should do and so I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► addressed it yet what do you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4858">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► should do I think it should pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► it should just not update the the synced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► position only if you go to a link with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► an offset in it but I can't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► scenario where I would I would at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► playhead would be at some non-zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► position in the podcast right I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► the tricky bit that you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► is like I haven't started playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► then I'm not quite sure what to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► if I have started to play it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► it's pretty clear that you and I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► an offset I want to play from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► offset in the web player and have it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► affect my other offset because I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► think of a scenario where I would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► it to affect it why would why would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► formulate an overcast web link for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► myself to jump to an offset with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► intention of me going fair now if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► thing is at the zero position I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► started playing and I go to an offset to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► listen to a thing I personally would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► also like it not to update the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► because very often what happens is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► does update it and then I will go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► that episode and it'll start playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► bit like I guess I listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► beginning of this one huh because here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► am in the middle of it like I'll forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► I don't realize no I just I just missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► the entire beginning because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► offset link that I followed like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► know three days ago or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► my solution obviously is just just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► incognito mode or whatever when you tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► that link it you know you won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► logged into overcast or log yourself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► that's a terrible solution I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► anyway if you're just looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► quick fix quick fix is offset in URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► equals never sync playhead position and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► then just make a different set of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► angry I think that's right actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► that actually sounds like a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► solution that yeah because if if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► an offset in New York because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► regular web interface does not put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► off it's there so if there's an offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► in the URL just don't touch the synced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► position at all yeah I think that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► sense to me too yeah so like it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► of like the one tap to play like you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► a few years make one set of people angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► and then you just put you back and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► for a few more years make those at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► people angry and then yeah I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► know so really how many people use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► web interface right honestly very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► it's it's a very like just get all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► in the chat room that actually might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► possible like it's it's very few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► like and every time somebody tweets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► responses that are like oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► don't know how to have web interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► like no one knows it's there and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► the people who do know it's there no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► uses it and yes that part of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► because it's pretty bare-bones and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► could make it a lot better or more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► more full-featured if I put a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► work into it but it's kind of chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► and egg thing like part of the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► don't put a lot of work into it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► I'm also glad you don't Chuck me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► the app because that's the other option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► that most people would do yeah that's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► immediately knows but you have the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► installed and Chuck's it to the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► because does I certainly don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► to go into the app again if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► playing if it's an episode that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► haven't started playing it or a one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► I'm in the middle of I don't want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► go into my app and change my playhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► position like inside the app if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► you did send to the app I would say go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► to the app but open a totally alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► one time like you just saw it an offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► disconnected entirely with the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► listening interface because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► follow a link with an offset someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► trying to show you something in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► episode it is clearly not the same as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► am listening to the episode they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► trying to say here's this little snip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► right here listen to this bit right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► that I feel like is a different activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► then I'm gonna now listen to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► alright thanks to our three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► this week hover fracture and aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► accidental oh it was accidental johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► research Margo and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► accidental you can find the show today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► CAS II WA L is Esther that's Casey less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► and a are Co a RM auntie Marco Arment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► so I I felt left out with you having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► your impulse purchases uh-oh and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► so Aaron and I bought a car tonight whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► wait like during the show well not not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► car right well okay so I would call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► truck but Aaron would correct me and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► no it's not a truck it's an SUV like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► big sneaker really sorry tennis shoes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► that's so cruel I don't really get why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► people are me but like people who call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► SUVs trucks I feel like that's unearned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► like a truck is a truck like if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► doesn't have like a bed on it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► that's not a truck yeah and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► exactly what Aaron would say probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► verbatim to me anything that is taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► than a car is a truck I'm not saying I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► right like I'm not trying to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► the listeners or anyone or you to I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► not saying I'm right it's just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► I've always thought of it which which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► probably bananas but but yeah we we a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► few hours ago bought Aaron a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► Volvo xc90 and it's very nice and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► very happy and aaron is sad that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► left her mazda6 behind we bought her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► Mazda 6 couple months after we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► married and so that car has been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► family from knew that the the Mazda 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► that is for almost exactly 10 years we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► brought it home at the end of August of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► 2007 and we let it go today and it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► it's weird right because of course just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► a thing right it's the machine but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► kind of makes you sad when you see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► go especially well mark oh you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► know about this because you don't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► cars for more than two minutes but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► those of us who keep cars for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► like John and me yes it's uh it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► sad to see one go because it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► part of the family for so darn long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► totally get it I have felt that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► and yeah I mean I I almost cried when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► gave up the m5 like it I liked it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► much like well Indu had a very unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► experience in that car so yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► sheshe was weepy I was on the verge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► weepy and it's funny because I I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► me wrong it was a very nice car in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► more than anything else it has given us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► or had home it had given us no problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► in its ten years in I mean I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► everything else was routine maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► I mean it was bulletproof which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► probably a Japanese thing in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► know most Honda's I've heard about are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► bulletproof most Toyota's or seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► bulletproof and this Mazda is was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► certainly bulletproof there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► individual Mazda 6 was bulletproof and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► so so yeah so I was sad to see it go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► really excited to have the new car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► only have one question and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► it is it is not why not there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► brief window of time where as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► described and as you do not like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► agree but IIIi was backed into white on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► my most recent car not the prior ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► the prior ones were more deliberate than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► not but oh really it was only a Subaru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► that was delivered anyway go with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► neutral and you'll get the the story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► I happens to be white yeah well the BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► happen to be white and a couple of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► other cars happen to be white the Subaru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► was a deliberate choice but anyway this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► one is silver we wanted well maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► me than her I don't think she cared that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► I wanted a deeper gray which happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► be what her Mazda was but but for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► one we ended up can I can I complain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► can I whine if that's what this show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► can I whine for a minute about how awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► it is to buy a car although I hear Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► it's just you go online in your price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► and you pick it out and that's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► don't know I don't want to hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► yeah because it just makes order from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► Tesla is like ordering from Amazon like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► it's literally like Add to Cart buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► that's me so sad it makes me so sad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► when we bought Aaron's Mazda we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► the process in I think it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► August of 2016 give or take a month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► we bought in August of 2017 and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► literally haggled with the dealer for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► year to get her car because we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► refused to budge on the price that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► wanted so we walked into the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► dealer at the end of December last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► I can't recall an exact day it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► really matter but at the very end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► December I believe it was between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► Christmas and New Year's I think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► today on the 17th of July we brought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► car home I have spent the last since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► Thursday or Friday I have spent all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► Philadelphia and Greensboro North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► Carolina trying to get a good deal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► this car now before anyone complains yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► I did this to myself but what ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► happening was I emailed all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► dealers saying look what's your best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► out-the-door price I don't I don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► just tell me with tax with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► what is your best out-the-door price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► you would think that that would be easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► but of course it's not because their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► is to not give me their best out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► door price their job is to give me their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► crappiest out the door price and hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► that I that I agree to it so what ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► up happening long story short is I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► our Richmond dealer in a bidding war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► with a couple other dealers and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► mostly the victors and so eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► got this car at an extreme well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► of an extreme discount and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► additionally valiant and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► understand that Aaron has never been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► particular fan of my car like she thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► it's fine but she hates BMW drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► because well we're all jerks and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► she's never really been a tremendous fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► guess what cars saved her several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► thousand dollars because of a Volvo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► promotion that's going on right now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► BMW if you have no in a BMW Lexus Audi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► etcetera you can get a multi-thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► dollar discount on a brand new Volvo so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► hmm how about them apples wait do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► trade it in or just buy you owning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► just by owning it because they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► to they're trying to get owners of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► luxury marques mark Sparky's whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► those things get luxury owners to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► to Volvo and so just by having one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► the family we got I think was three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► thousand dollars off which is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► awesome Wow so that was pretty cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► it's terrible it's just a friggin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► nightmare from start to finish I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► I didn't care about the cost of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► it'd be great no worries but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► terrible because not only buying a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► the dealer's one and only job is to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► asthma to extract all of the money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► you and your one and only position is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► try to extract as little as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► from from your own wallet so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► like miss the Baron in the chat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► saying well could I've just paid MSRP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► sure I could have but that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► been I almost ten thousand dollars more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► than we paid like no that's no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► made of money so no I'm not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► that oh my god I hate I hate buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► car I just I don't want to do it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► long time and that's why I think that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► part of the reason I mean Aaron who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► loved her Mazda as I said but part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► the reason that she didn't want a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► car was because she did want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► through this and it's just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► freaking nightmare I hate it so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► kind of silver did you get I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► just silver silver I forget that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► the official silver metallic osmium gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► metallic no be Umbra is what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► thought would be good oh that the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► options on this car are friggin terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► unless you get into like the super gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► metallic no I believe it was just silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► the osmium is what I thought looked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► best of the available options so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► xc90 momentum which is the cheapest xc90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► they make however within xc90 Momentum's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► you can get 5 v seat or 7 seat and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► got the 7 seat one with the bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► silver metallic we like I was starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► to say we I thought the osmium gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► actually looked better but um but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► ended up with silver because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► one that the dealer could get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► hands on and make a deal a good deal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► what engine you get so you get T 5 or t6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► so it's 86 which is because as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► you go third row that means you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► getting a t6 so it's a t6 all-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► drive so it's you've had to get the fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► well not exactly so here's the thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► xc90 ranges from forty or forty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► thousand dollars to a hundred in ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► thousand dollars or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► I saw that it's like a Porsche could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► just double the price of the car with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► options that's it yeah because well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► it is is they make a version I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► doesn't a great thing yeah well but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► only is it a v8 hybrid but beyond that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► so the back is just blocked off and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► clearly like an executives I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► be chauffeured in the SUV sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► but anyway so yeah so ours was ours we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► started as cheap as you could go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► terms of the trim and then made it seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► seats so that makes it slightly fancier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► and then it's actually pretty darn well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► optioned which is great so it has pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► much all of the the bits and bobs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► we could possibly want but it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► cool I mean I haven't driven this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► yet we did do an overnight test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► several months ago of a less loaded one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► and you know it does have car play which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► I've played with very briefly when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► test drove it and it was really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► there are definitely problems with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► but it was really nice it has like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► bird's-eye view it has a heads-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► display so a lot of it is a lot of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► very similar to the m5 actually or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► reminds me of the m5 but I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► looking forward to it it has a heated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► steering wheel with which we've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► had before it parks itself which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► something we've never had before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► got an automatic just like the new m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► watching that but that makes me sad with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► what they've done to the m5 is sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► oh and it's both supercharged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► turbocharged how about that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► possible yeah so I I didn't even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► into this much but I I think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► idea is that the supercharger which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► belt driven is good for low rpm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► when you're just taking off and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► turbocharger is better once you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► some some motion going and once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► turbocharger is exhaust driven so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► you know no competition for things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► are driving the things that are blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► air and here engine indeed but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► know Aaron and I we got next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► other one week so I drove to the Volvo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► dealer and she drove separately to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► Volvo dealer and then you know we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► going to grab a late dinner afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► and I got next to her at a stoplight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► she took off with not any particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► supercharger whine coming from a Volvo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► again I would call it a truck I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► it's not a truck but coming from a Volvo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► SUV and it's just like what why is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► noise coming from it's just it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► but anyway so yeah so so far so good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► mean we didn't really get a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► play with it since we got home we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► home put Declan to bed I had to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► little homework for analog which we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► recording tomorrow I played in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► registration on the car which is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► to be delightful to work out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► came upstairs to record this so at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► glance super nice we're really excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► but I hate I hate buying cars you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► it's the worst well I think you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► you have to come to peace with in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5830">TS</a>]
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01:39:29 ◼ ► can also think of it this way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5969">TS</a>]
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01:39:39 ◼ ► situation in a particular car where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► dealership didn't make any money off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5981">TS</a>]
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01:39:50 ◼ ► they have ways to make money other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5990">TS</a>]
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01:39:54 ◼ ► margins on cars they sell you and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► certain situations you can get a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/5996">TS</a>]
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01:40:13 ◼ ► arm and a leg for service then maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► feel better about the purchase yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6016">TS</a>]
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01:41:33 ◼ ► for a very long time enjoy it just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6093">TS</a>]
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01:43:25 ◼ ► like going back and forth about $100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6205">TS</a>]
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01:43:56 ◼ ► spending these tens of thousands when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► I'm spending five figures anyway a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► there's nothing whereas if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► spending a hundred bucks a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► hundred bucks on top of that you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6246">TS</a>]
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01:44:10 ◼ ► money in both cases yeah I'd be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► careful with large purchases that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6252">TS</a>]
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01:44:16 ◼ ► the body-colored key fob for 500 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6256">TS</a>]
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01:44:20 ◼ ► payments like don't do it just think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► were doing the right thing although did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6262">TS</a>]
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01:44:25 ◼ ► picture is this your actual car but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► link I put in the in the chat which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► will not be putting the show notes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► the actual car yeah so it looks white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► that's all I'm gonna say about it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► look white no you're right it does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► is a very light silver about a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► big white no I mean I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► looks bad I I mean I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► about SUVs really like they don't appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► to me so I have a hard time judging them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► but or as they go this looks pretty nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► yeah I mean I'm looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6292">TS</a>]
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01:44:57 ◼ ► very light silver without question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► without question maybe I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► what I'll do is I'll put that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► pictures in the show notes so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► gonna put the link to like the listing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► and it's probably to disappear any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► minute anyway but I'll put a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► picture then people can reverse image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► search it's not gonna do you want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► think it might just be overexposed there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► are a couple of angles where it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► to look silver it does look that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► yeah but follow John's advice of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► love like after telling you to like try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► to reduce anxiety about this purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► the fact that John led with that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► the you know I feel like that's how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► that's how they get you rationale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► good when considering extras and options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► however when when just agonizing over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► the the bulk of this price and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► purchase price the asking price the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► profit margin and the invoice price all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► this stuff like this is where it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► it's a good time to just say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► what I'm gonna be spending a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► money on this I'll try to be responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► but it's not worth you know agonizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► about it forever because keep in mind to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► like and this is this is one area where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► a lot of people get caught up there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► there is a value that it might be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► to quantify but there is a value to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► own mental health regarding you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► surrounding this so you are not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► spending a lot of time trying to extract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► the negotiations out of the dealer's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► like you know the first half of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► that you spend on that is probably worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► it but then you get diminishing returns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► after that and so that's yeah so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► know there's that issue of like time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► spent that it's worth keeping that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► check and then also like if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► get all mad about something that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► hundred dollars it's like okay well are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► you doing is that kinda like ruin an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► evening for you is is gonna ruin a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► evenings is it gonna ruin a week for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► are you gonna be mad for a week over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► hundred dollars is that worth it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► are you gonna get mad in front of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► kid about something like this how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► that gonna make him feel is that worth a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► hundred dollars to you like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► cost to you and and to to your health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► and to your family and to the mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► around you the people around you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► when things bother you too much and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► sometimes it's actually worth just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► saying you know what fine I'll I'll I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► get screwed for the hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6430">TS</a>]
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01:47:13 ◼ ► the next week and so and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► you did any of that cuz I wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► look she's probably a good thing but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► a lot of people have trouble seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► perspective on that and and finding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► balance and I've had trouble with this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► lot before or two and this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► I've only more recently started thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► more about and there's a lot of value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► yourself being able to just move on from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► I oftentimes think that that you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► a little cavalier about or fat maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► little fast and loose about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► spend your money given that you impulse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► bottom you know oh this really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► TV and all that jazz but III absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► a hundred percent agree with you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► the key here is to get get the purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► down to a place where you think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► not getting screwed to where you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► you're you're doing okay and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► that point when you're nickel and diming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► the dealer or yourself I'm is it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► really worth it anymore you know it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► to the point that I was just stressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► myself out over you know this little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► of money that yes $100 like I don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► to say that $100 isn't a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► I'm not trying to say that at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► $100 is absolutely a lot of money what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► I'm saying is there comes a time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► you have to say to yourself you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► it's just not worth continuing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► this to yourself and that's that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► I eventually got is just it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► worth it for me to continue to stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► about this and so in the end I am super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► happy about the purchase I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► gonna be really great for the family I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► think I'm really looking forward to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► car we've never had a Volvo I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► think anyone in our extended families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► have had a Volvo I've certainly been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► around them in the past but I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► looking forward to it and at a glance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► seems super nice it has so many bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► bobs from the technology point of view I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► mean it's its own it apparently like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► of the things we did unbeknownst to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► was the dealer signed us up for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► three-month trial on AT&T because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► thing is its own Wi-Fi hotspot like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► it's got carplay as I mentioned before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► it's got the I think I said it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► bird's-eye view so when you park you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► know it although I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► quite as good as the m5s was but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► as you park it'll show you everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► around you and has of course backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► camera and all that jazz it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► three row seating which to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► somebody in the chat so the reason we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► got the third row seating is because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► want the option of putting like friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► or many adults or really in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► cases just having plenty of storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► space in the back because you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► not that big given how big the car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► and I think part of the problem here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► that Aaron's Mazda was not a terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► large car but had a cavern of a trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► it was just preposterous ly large and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► she didn't really if she's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► this big you know SUV she's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► want to give up on that tremendous trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► and I don't think that's unreasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► theoretically will parallel park itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► it theoretically will perpendicularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► park itself I think by backing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► although I'm not a hundred percent sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6634">TS</a>]
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01:50:36 ◼ ► if it doesn't back in I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► furious we have to return it exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6637">TS</a>]
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01:50:47 ◼ ► forward to I say looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► only because like I haven't driven it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► yet and we haven't really played with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► all the technology stuff yet but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► it's tough because here it is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► such a monumental day and moment in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► lives and it was slightly miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► because I was sad to see the monster go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► when aaron was devastated to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► monster go she wanted the new car it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► not like I'm compelling her to get a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► car but she was devastated to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► car go but you know it's also it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► it's like that ah thank god that's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► with because I don't want to ever want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► to do that crap again you know it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► that that release that just finally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► so yeah I'm not sure if I'm gonna do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► sort of formal review for either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► website or my quote-unquote YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► channel I mean I have a channel that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► you can just call it your vlog it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► but yeah so far so good it seems really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► nice and I'm really looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► spending more time in it and getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► check out all the bits and bobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► whatnot should have thought about moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► to a different state so you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► have to have that stupid registration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► sticker in the middle your windshield I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► no doubt that it's not actually is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► one in Aaron's off center yeah so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► gonna say is it a little bit yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► little bit to the left it almost doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► matter because it being anywhere near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► the middle of your windshield is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► Center is like a secondary concern but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► if I move I would probably move to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► Pennsylvania or North Carolina where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► don't recall where the stickers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► there but at least front damn licensed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► down drives me insane that we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► have those on our cars by the way I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► seen this picture of your gloriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► white car next to Aaron's new allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► silver car that is really light silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► different-looking cars now I miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► Aaron's car Aaron's car look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► well what a great 90s car that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► totally a 90s car yeah it is oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► sorry I was so happy now I'm so angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► the two of you that's all car shaped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► everything yeah that's awesome it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► doesn't look that different from my from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6778">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► my very well-loved 96 Maxima that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► mmm it's a 2007 mazda 6 you guys well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTaSX0g/6782">TS</a>]