00:00:00 ◼ ► hi this is me and I'm talking to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► things are happening John sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► Marco the fact that you're asking me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► I'm still here is alarming but I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► going to keep talking until somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/8">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► starts to interrupt me and talks over me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► which is pretty much the story of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► entire show a serenity Caldwell friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/13">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► comparisons and so we'll put a few links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► in the show notes I briefly earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► tonight handled my friend Steve's iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► and was playing with his 10.5 and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► again seems nice it doesn't really seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► any different in size in the hand than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► the iPad I used to own the full size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► iPad but Sorrenti has some thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► some comparisons and things so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► know John you want to take us through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► presumably when she was writing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/49">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► article but those little like yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► rectangle diagrams take a look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► comparison you got like the Mini is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► little thing up in the corner and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► the twelve point nine inch iPad pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/61">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► the big thing the difference between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► nine point seven and that ten point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► is so tiny proportionally that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► they feel almost the same because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► really almost are the same and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► look at the screen difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► nine point seven ten point five it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► little more uniform where it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► a you know it's it's more substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► representation of how they've managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► put a bigger screen on an iPad that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► not that much bigger and why it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► feel monstrous why it just feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► you know if you give to a regular person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► and they do aren't intimately familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► with a nine point seven they might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► even notice the physical size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► thing is bigger so I think that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► selling point of this device and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/99">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► had any doubts take a look at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► diagrams they're pretty convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► speaking of serenity Caldwell she also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► has some information about typing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► Siri in iOS 11 so in iOS 11 when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/109">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► comes down the fall users will be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► accessibility settings which will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► you write your commands to Siri rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► than shouting them into space which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► had known about but you know she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► little bit more detail and I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► can't decide if this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► or kind of redundant in useless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► because sometimes either don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► speak out loud but you want to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/136">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► functionality provided by Siri you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► even if it's just I don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► is the case but imagine for example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► you routinely asked to set a timer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► reminder and a spoken way but you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► you know you don't want to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► reminders app and then typing that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► English sentence into the interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► reminder new reminder field what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► do you can say like you know pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► laundry at 4:00 p.m. tomorrow and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► reminder will like set itself to 4:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► p.m. tomorrow in the name of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/167">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► will they pick up laundry but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► spend most of your time interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► Siri you may not know sort of the syntax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► that is understandable by reminders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► I don't think it's exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► syntax that Siri understands so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► nice to be able to essentially type into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► sort of a wone one-stop shop for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► things that you can make your phone do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► in a vaguely unattended way and not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► to say oh I'm in a place where I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► speak out loud so rather than me trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► to whisper to Siri let me just type with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► my thumbs the thing I know will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► with Siri in a nice quiet way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► like all sane people you have key clicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► turned off but I don't know how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► have key clicks on Ryan Jones made in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► interesting observation via Twitter he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► said this is with regard to iOS 11 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► the iPhone you can lock an iPhone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► still haven't had a chance to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► this I want to see this but anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/217">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► said you can lock an iPhone by pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► down from the top and additionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► there's a software shutdown button in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► settings this is still quoting Ryan very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► fishy the power button may not be long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► so Ryan's point is if you can lock your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► phone rather than with the button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► right hand side on most phones these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► days but rather by just swiping down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► from the top and if there's a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► shutdown button then what is the purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/245">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► obviously to turn it on but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► reason you couldn't use one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► buttons to do that so does that mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► power button is going away in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► and if so what are we going to do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/258">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► screenshots man I want my screenshots so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► I have an alternative theory on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► I'm thinking that you know that first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► all I really hope they don't get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► like button you know it it serves a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► useful purpose and while they might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/270">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► physical button there to control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► very very useful function of sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and waking the phone and if they get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► of it I assume they'll have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► like other way to sleep it or automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► you know there's also like different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► recovery things that this enables but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► the biggest thing that I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► might not be a big deal is maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► settings not because they're getting rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► of the power button but because they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► learned that a lot of people don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/304">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► how to turn their phones off like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► way you turn your front of us to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► this button down for a while how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► people know that I bet a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► actually don't I wish fewer people know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► knew it I'm having just taken a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► plane flights and seeing people on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► plane both seated next to me and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► seats because you know see them walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► up down the aisle so to the bathroom or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► peeking through the edge of the seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► when I see people who own iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► who turn them off like off off shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/330">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► completely when they're done using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► and then boot them back up when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► want to use them again multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► during the flight I want to pull just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► just don't just don't do it just hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► like hit the power button or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► just put it back in your bag and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► you take it out later just hit any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► of button on and it will come back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► instantly pick up where you left off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/353">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► it will be fine but people want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► people want to turn them off and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► know how long they take the boot it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/359">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► not a fast boot process it's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► don't know maddening so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► the I think you're right Marco the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► people don't know how to turn off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► phone I don't think people should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► know how to turn it like it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► not a thing that they should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► routinely obviously if there's some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► of troubleshooting you need to reboot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► or whatever look it up online or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/376">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► somebody or worst case go to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► store and they will show you but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► everybody's day so I don't want a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► for people to better know how to shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► down their phone that's not that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► not a good idea right and additionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► Ryan noted that in iOS 11 there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► offload endquote unused apps so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► a screenshot offload unused apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► then there's a on/off switch this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► automatically remove on use apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► keep its documents and data reinstalling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the Apple place back that's an odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► phrasing reinstalling the Apple place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/415">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► back your data if the app is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► available in the App Store which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► interesting because a lot of us I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► I'm included in that as well have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► whole bunch of ancient apps on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► phones that we think will need one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► but probably never will so in settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► and iTunes and App Store's in iOS 11 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the beta there's offload unused apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► interesting there this is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► problem that I think maybe Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► trying to solve like Gruber's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► recently about how like the size of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► just the sheer size of apps is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► tremendous in the last couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► so many very common popular apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► like well over a hundred Meg's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► that's and you know it's full of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► bloat from frameworks and various assets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and everything and Apple has tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► various things to reduce this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/467">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► initiatives and and various technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► and things like that but ultimately if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► you think about like how much collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► bandwidth and battery power are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► used by the App Store diligently auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► actually using ever on their phones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► that it there's you can definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► good argument for why not only should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► this feature exist but it might even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► maybe it should even be defaulted to on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► because there's just a tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► of data and battery being wasted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► update like 50 hundred mega apps that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/506">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► people's phones that are buried in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► folder somewhere they're never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► using so it is an interesting problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► do think it is wise for Apple to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► tackling this somehow but we'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► see I guess the implementation details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► of how this is actually done just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► know whether this is the right solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/526">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► or not I don't think this should be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► by default because the idea that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► like the like a couple couple screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► away the app that you only use once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► blue moon then the one time you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► use it it's like oh I don't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► app I have to redownload it and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► to wait for it and you're on a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► this direct me is a good idea I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► a nice copy and here's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► someone someone's phone like fills up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► and they go to the Apple Store like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► my my phone is filled up man which I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► is I bet as a Genius Bar thing they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► how do I make more space beyond my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► aside from buying a new one and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► like well there any apps you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► using let's sort them by size let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► to the usage screen in settings and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► what's using most of your space and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► those things that I'm sure the Genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► Bar people do all the time one possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► solution I found reasonably nice that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► not the same as this preference city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► that you manually turn on or is on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► applications that you don't use and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► deletes them out from under you makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► them like these little booby traps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► cause big downloads when you tap on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► is to do what slack does and say every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► once in a while and I know this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► like nagging and Skype does this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► thing all the time but I found it not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► be particularly annoying it says not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► fairly infrequent schedule hey I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► noticed these three apps that are this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► big you haven't used them in six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► do you want to delete them and you'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► no and you can say don't bother me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► this again or you can say yes and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► seems like do that like once a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► right and have that be a preference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► have it on by default or something I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► people would go oh yeah I forgot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► installed that game delete or they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► say you know as long as you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► button that says no and never asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► about this again it will never ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► about that app again you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► those four tons of stuff hey these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► channels haven't had anyone talk to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► in a while do you want to keep them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► do you not want to keep them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► like maybe this lack frequency is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► little bit more frequent I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► what their frequency is but I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► marketing person I would say it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► intelligent assistant it uses machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► there but bottom line is it presents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► options in an understandable way uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► without introducing any new mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► mechanics are still you have apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► know you can delete them right you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► you can delete them every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► while the thing will ask you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► useless do you want me to delete it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► opposed to let me introduce the concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► of offloading to you and now do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► me to do that automatically in a way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► have no awareness of yes or no so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► mean we'll say well I'll try it I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► probably turn on to because I have tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► of apps that I don't use that frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► but I well maybe I won't turn on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► downloaded for the 24 hours they were up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► illegal NES emulator apps that I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► my phone for I don't want it to delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► that something and in typical Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► fashion it's not as if I'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► exclude those or anything so I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► probably won't turn this on yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► I think it makes a lot of sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► people of which there are many who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► really short on space on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► pretty much all the time and this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► know largely because Apple has for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► long sold phones with really small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► storage sizes as the base model and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► think that's that's less of a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/717">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► with the recent phones but there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► a lot of those out there a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► like 16 gig phones are still being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► and and so there's this is a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► for lots of people or people who for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► size phone their story just full of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► photos and videos and stuff and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► additional iCloud storage and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► so like like they need the space and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► you know I think I would venture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► venture gets that space management is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► really big very common problem for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► device owners so anything to reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► space is a good thing especially in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► download is gonna be like 90 Meg's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► we have some observations from front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► the shows detron smith ipad multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► spaces persist after you reboot so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/764">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► which just heightens my desire to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► so apparently spaces are a thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► there are persistent things so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► can kind of set up your different you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► know multitasking pains and whatnot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► different tasks and just swipe between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► them as necessary not unlike what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► favorites like you know the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► keeps track of what you did hey you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► messages on one side and like your text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► editor on the other and you put slack on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► the other and like it keeps those as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► little spaces and it keeps them together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and it's good that it keeps track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► them if it really does because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► will like as I've said a million times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► people want to arrange their working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► environment in the way that suits them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► but they will they will give up doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► arranging and then that arrangement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► forgotten I've always you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► springboard is the my modern example to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► interfaces if you picked up your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► and all of a sudden all your icons in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► springboard were randomly arranged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► everything was out of your folders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► all scrambled over hey you'd be pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► and be up to three times you would stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► rearranging stuff in springboard you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► be like why bother why do I bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► carefully making these screens because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► next time I pick up my phone chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► randomly shuffled right that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► how the finder is to me these days but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► yet to get people to understand like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► do you care why do you care about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► screens you hear all these podcasts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► know cortex talks about it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► I think they talked about hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► we've talked about in here talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► it on connected upgrade is there a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► show that hasn't talked about hey how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► you arrange your homescreen the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► that that is a discussion topic at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► is because you can arrange your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► screen you can arrange springboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► you put things in a place and they stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/862">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► there and that's why it is the thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► all so with with spaces having them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/867">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► persist is great because that will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► favorites to say like I guess it sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► them in like most recently used order or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► something I don't know I haven't tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► it but I'm assuming it's some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► automatic order that says all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► when you go back to that switcher the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► last two or three spaces you used will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► you know will be in the first two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► three positions someone so forth if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► could pin a small set of things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► no matter what I do with my iPad these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► spaces are always in this position that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► workflows because they have kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► way of working and a set of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► that they group together and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► going to do other stuff they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► application go over here over there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► when they come back to the switcher to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► be able to know when you invoke the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► switcher just just stab in this vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► messages space or whatever this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► know this is a tiny miniature version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► window arrangement on personal computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► but as we've seen the personal computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► they don't even though these spaces like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► hazy does I rarely see people who aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► pretty darn computer nerdy develop any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► kind of system with spaces just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► it's so it's so difficult to do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► thing to try to with an iPad to pin them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► to say this space should be here and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► should be fullscreen and should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► this there that shut these three windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/952">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► in and it should never change if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► you can do that on the iPad if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► more people be able to do that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► iPad people who will be a lot happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► people who could not accomplish the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► task on a Mac more from Steve Stratton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► Smith iOS 11 let's document pay based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► apps pretty much present the filesystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► as their launch UI replacing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► galleries or grid views that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► writes so this is kind of cool that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► can just use basically a file browser as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► the thing you land on when you launch an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► app and so that makes a lot of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► redundant code that all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► companies and people have written just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► go away which is really exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► this is more embracing of the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/989">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► having a file system I put this in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► because I just immediately upon reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► this tweet imagined the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► application that tries to ship and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► this the App Store rejects it says sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► you can't show the file picker does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► totally sound like an app store type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► thing I mean he means technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► speaking yes now there's like a canned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► Apple view that shows you the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► system and a lot of applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► make sense where it on Mac apps do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► where you you've launched office apps do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► it and maybe in pages you launch and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► get an open save dialog or you get well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► I guess someone do all those custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► templates and make a new go document or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► applications that is a natural way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► it and I think most of the best iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► applications still we want to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► their own like procreate or whatever or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► like Lamia however you pronounce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► name of the icon factory app they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► have kind of a view where it shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► here's all your stuff and especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► it's an image editing application to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► show you little thumbnails and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► rather than showing you just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► file icons but if you really do have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► application that mostly deals with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► files that are not graphics files it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► might make sense to launch into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► Apple provided picker at least maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► version one of your app before you until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► you make the fancy version that shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► zap shows you it's just a bunch of text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► documents but it shows you a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► previews of them which is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► surprisingly useful later I'm why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► watching this to see the first person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► brave enough to ship an app like that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► see if they every Jake it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► be a problem Apple like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► holding DC sessions about doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► like they want people to do this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► gonna be fine we'll see famous last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► now if it's an NES emulator you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► problem or do you remember way back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► when they were tethering apps like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► think I had yeah I Heather or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► like that and and I kept that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► was on it was on the App Store for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► a week and it was basically like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► needed a a component on your Mac and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► needed the app on your phone and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that thing on my phone for years because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► I had the ATT unlimited plan and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► the ways they tried to shimmy you off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► that plan was by never ever ever as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► as I knew anyway never allowing you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► tether so I had this like tether or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► tether or something like that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► would use to be able to tether from time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► to time and I remember I like had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► saved version of the Installer somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► on my hard drive so just in case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► Installer went away I would still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► it I had the app that I liked cherished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► more I probably had a backup backup of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► the IPA somewhere just to be safe I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► I'd oh my god I remember that those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► the days and then there would be other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► apps like a flashlight app that would L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► by the way have a Sox server on it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► if you you know triple tap in the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► 1/3 of the screen while holding your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► nose and bouncing on one foot you engage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► a sock server yeah like two hours after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► that was discovered it was off the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► uh moving on the Apple Design Awards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► a das they were a thing we which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► we spoke about last time but it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► be that what was at the Monday evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► of WDC the first night at WTC they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► have an event where the Apple Design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► Awards would get would be given out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► it would be done in front of an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► blah blah blah this this past year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► kind of did it quietly but people got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► schmooze with some of the execs which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► pretty cool well Zach kaan writes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► says it's worth noting that Apple gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► out a da's to indie alternatives to mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► notes and reminders but still won't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► you set any of them as a default which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► was a pretty observant thing that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► yeah they're rewarding like oh these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► well-designed applications they may well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1198">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► be but I always feel for people who try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► to use the non default applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► because in each one of them there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► aspect of it that is less privileged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► applications it's you know could be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► simple as like when I click on mail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► link my tab of mail to link on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► which application launches or when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► tell Siri remind me to bla bla bla where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► does it put that reminder you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► mean like and they're so close it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► I don't even understand why Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► clearly wants to encourage notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► mail reminder applications like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► a staple of the non game section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► App Store Apple is not like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► growling at them and saying why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► those people trying to compete with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► built-in applications they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► encourage in here they are 88 winners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► these are great examples of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► that Apple apparently wants to encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► let people use them as their default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► right for all these in calendar notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► reminders mail they're so close and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► limitations are less than they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► be it used to be much harder to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► alternate applications but like why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► go all away I'm every year we wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► this some years there's more to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► forward to than others who don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► about it but because I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► mentioned this year but I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► thinking about it hey when will I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► able to use alternate applications even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► on the Mac back in the classic Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► days there was an entire control panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► application I want to use for mail this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► is the one I want to use for instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► message or so on and so forth but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► kind of is still in Mac OS if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► where to mess with things but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► prominent like some of the things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► preferences to pick your default browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► and chrome will constantly try to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► your default browser it's all weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► wise to the same underlying data store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► but it's clearly not as prominent as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► used to be at least power users can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► figure it out on iOS a lot of times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► just not possible I suppose unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► especially we already talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► with you know Siri and the increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► number of intense it would be great they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► made intense for all the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► reminders if those things don't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► exist I suppose they don't but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► applications do it when you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► you'll tap a link in the Gmail app it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► will throw a thing in your face it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► hey do you want to open this link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► in tint tint or Safari and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► little a little switch that says ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► about this every time so I always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► hit Safari and hit the don't ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► about this every time and then and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► done with it but public Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► implement as well and it's not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► rocket science so again maybe in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► couple years yeah and actually for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► record I'm pretty sure they did add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► there they are adding it for notes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► was living that's one of the two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► that they added I think but if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► that wrong I'm sorry I'm still buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► WC stuff because I learned that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► to rewrite my entire audio engine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► mean we what the what he called the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► tent you mean isn't and I was loving not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► application yeah yeah yeah no yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► change in the defaults I can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► that this will see I don't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► one of those things where you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► every WDC that comes around we we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff that is you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► big surprise and there's usually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► couple of things that we always say wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► we never thought Apple would do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► so we we've been for years saying we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► pretty sure apples never gonna allow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► to change the default app for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► kinds of things but if one of these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► it could be one of those things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► they could just do it and then we'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► like oh look at that cool and we move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► you know the same thing with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► deleting the built-in apps like we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► thought they would do that either and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► there's you know a little asterisk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► how they kind of sort of offer it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► what you start really deleting it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► things like that but like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► did it and they put the effort into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► to make that happen and so like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► as as iOS gets more and more mature many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► of the arguments against them offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► defaults like for instance one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► arguments used to be like well things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► like male there are places all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► US where they have like built-in male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► compose sheets and yeah that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► then they made extensions and they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► Siri intense and things like that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► kind of break down these barriers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► let anything plug in and kind of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► similar things so you know the the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► of having custom integrations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► certain things like those are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► slowly being removed in favor of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► like extensions and intents and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► it would not surprise me if they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► to actually let you change things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► your default mail app and your default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► browser at some point in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► still wouldn't say it's likely but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► the I think the technical foundation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► now there that they could do it if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► wanted to without massive weird side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► effects I still don't think they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► but again with Apple you never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► know what you know you never say they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► never do something well they're so close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► now like you said with the extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► and in each individual application just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► applications for example is all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► would need to do for mail chain make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► preference in Safari that controls where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► mail to links go to is that it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► what's left because you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► there's the extensions for like ad this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► is a bookmark or I mean I suppose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► also have like tapping links in Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► search and Siri search results or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► something you know what I mean or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► want me to open this web page and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► like that I don't know it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► we've throughout the system in more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► places than I think but it always seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► like they're so close that like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► no what what are they holding back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► now because extensions really did blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► it wild wide open and now almost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► things that you would previously done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► with a single default application now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► you can pick from a list and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► rearrange a list which by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► really help you rearranging of that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► sticks better or I hope these spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► stick better than the rearranging a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► because I've always had problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► that oh yeah but yeah it seems simple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► don't know what the holdup is other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► just you know not a big priority and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► it's like one of those sort of small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► things most people don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1543">TS</a>]
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00:26:25 ◼ ► designed as a patent-pending compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1585">TS</a>]
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00:26:30 ◼ ► laundry bag so that as your clothes get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► dirty during a trip you can put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► right in this laundry bag and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► you get home you can detach it and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1595">TS</a>]
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00:26:45 ◼ ► only ever used two wheeled suitcases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1605">TS</a>]
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00:26:50 ◼ ► experience especially if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1610">TS</a>]
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00:27:02 ◼ ► USB charging battery so if you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► can charge up your suitcase before a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► trip and then throughout as you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► through different airports maybe waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► for a layover you can plug in your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► right to your suitcase and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► charge up your phone it can charge an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► iPhone five times at the built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► battery capacity and there's a lifetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► warranty and all this so if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► ever goes wrong with your away suitcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► they will fix or replace it for you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► life and you can see for yourself with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► hundred day trial here's this works you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► can by Ennio a suitcase and you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► actually use it you can travel with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► for up to a hundred days and if at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► point you decide it's not for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► can return it for a full refund with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► questions asked so you can literally buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► it for a trip take on a trip get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► beaten up by the airline and then if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► decide it's not for you they will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► it back no questions asked and it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► shipping with any away order within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► lower 48 US states go to away travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1674">TS</a>]
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00:28:04 ◼ ► once again away travel calm / ATP and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► use promo code ATP at checkout for $20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► towards any suitcase thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► - a way for sponsoring our show all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► right speaking of photos a moment to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► let's talk about what is he for hafe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► always get it wrong the Apple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► have been seeing Heath Heath okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► alright so somebody in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► I'm assuming John says that Heath is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► good he is good he fizz like those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► my favorite sessions the the hefei TVC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► sessions if you want to take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► some sessions technology stuff at WABC I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► think these are some of the best ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► for a bunch of reasons so the first is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► that he fizz good it is better than JPEG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► it's better than ping it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► all the existing formats in terms in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► in terms of the things that Apple cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► about and that you should care about - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► image size flexibility of the format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► it's kind of it kind of reminds me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► like the various I'm gonna call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► pirate formats but like the mikoshi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► whatever MKV container thing like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► they just say here is a really super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► generic container that can you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► is flexible and straightforward and fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► a whole bunch of stuff in it and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► all these things that it can do and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► don't pin it down with these arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► limitations that you know make sense at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► the time and one of the examples in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► thing was like whatever the maximum size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► of a JPEG is I forget what it is but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► when JPEG was created and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► nineteen eighty or ninety something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► and yet here we are today and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► actually it's an actual limitation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► is problematic for JPEGs one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► demos they had or not to spoil too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► one of the demos that of Heath was of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► panorama they zoomed in on and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► kept zooming and zooming and zooming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► it was ridiculously large panoramas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► it was like is this is this some cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► new application like Google Earth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► just reloads new tiles and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► totally custom UI no they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► zooming a Heath image which itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► internally can use a tile based format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and it's resolution can be massive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► you literally couldn't do with JPEG like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► it all was was an image view as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► could tell but you couldn't do with JPEG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► cuz JPEG can't support an image that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► efficiency of being able to quickly read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► and display just the portion that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► on the screen with the whole tiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► stuff the pictures are smaller for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► same quality or better quality for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► larger sizes and they can contain lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► of different things like it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► like he was made for live photos I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► it was kind of the reverse but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► shame the live photos came before he but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► hey you can store a series of photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► photos plus video at the same time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► you know smart dips between the frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► of the stuff in them is what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► talking about in the end the live show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► where I was speculating that perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► that every frame of a live photo stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► in a format is of equal quality that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► why you can pick among them reportedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► that's not the case we got at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► report that if you pick the real photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► it is still like you know the still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► photo is still higher quality than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► of the animation frames but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► higher quality than they were I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► it makes sense that if you had to shave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► full quality for every single frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► you'd take up a lot of of memory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► those are actually pretty big maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► couldn't even dump them off the sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► the fast but even if occurred you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► probably wouldn't want them to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► it's kind of inefficient even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► interframe dips but anyway the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► Heath and a GBC are big deals is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► aside from just being new formats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► better is this is like a foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► technology like they didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► hammer on it too much but this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► to last if you know if all goes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► this is going to last 10 15 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► it's going to define your experience on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► iOS and Mac in terms of what are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► images what is my video made of how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► does it look and how much room does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► take it is so fundamental to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► single thing that we do especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► cameras being as pervasive as they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► today that any kind of change in them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► like you don't change it for the hell of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► it well this year we use them totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► different image format next year this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► different image format no we pick an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► image format we stick with it for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► time and these formats are just better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► that just better and this will this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► change all of our Computing's lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► like boring ways and will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► change them for years and years news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► like I don't I don't think this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► a weird fad thing I really hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► really does catch on and sweep across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► the entire industry because I'm ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► get rid of those old formats and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► to this new one like why why hold on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► a format that makes larger files that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► flexibility and is more difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► deal with so I encourage everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► look at these sessions I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► exactly the type of sort of underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► core technology that certainly within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► the app legal system and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► within the ecosystem across the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► industry because I hate it when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► does something better and no one else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► copies it and again he Phan h-e-b CR not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► Apple standards these are ISO standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► international standards Apple I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► have apple at any influence at all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► making them who knows but either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► they're not Apple proprietary so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► really want the whole world to move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► this every time I think about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► world moving to it I think back on gif [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► and then I think we could we couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► even escape gift oh really oh no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► changed we're all going to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► heap and a GB see how long did it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► to get transparent ping support in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► of our browsers I'm old I know but I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► fingers across for these standards all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► let's see what else we've got going on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► didn't entirely understand this tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► from not underscore David Smith from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► from Apple employee David Smith he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► said that 32-bits support is sunset in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► Mac OS this is a bigger deal than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► seems i386 is the last fragile - table C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► - a bi non Swift supporting architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► I understood bits and pieces of that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► one of you translate for me what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► crap that actually means says it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► notes right below it so the the fragile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► Objective C API so the fragile busey API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► is where well it's the non fragile one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► is where it escapes the fragile Base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Class problem which is basically if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► they've Apple ships a framework and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► have a class and it has like fields name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► and age in it right and people build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► applications top of that framework and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► they ship them and then the next version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► the operating system Apple wants to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► a hair color field to that same class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► right the fragile base class problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► like oh we can't add hair color field to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► applications are shipped that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► compiled against the old version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► just has name and age and so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► way we can add a field because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► fragile base class problem is all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► application against the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► the framework that is new field right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► and so the app effects ists I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► maybe in the upgrade to a 64-bit runtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► and it's not a problem now but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► ABI so they didn't bother fixing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► compatibility and also because I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► they were moving away from 32-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► eventually and now they are and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► is that problem goes away entirely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► then everything that they have certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► Swift and also well supposed eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► they get a stable API but I'm sure I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► assuming they will do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► there and all the 64-bit objections II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► don't have this problem so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► leaving behind a limitation and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► 32-bit doesn't support if switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► 64-bit only so that's another reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► digit so yeah 32-bit Mac not long for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► this world and someone asked me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► Twitter recently why do I care as a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► what benefit is that is there to me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► user for Apple ditching 32 bits for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► don't care if it's a problem for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► and I have this fragile a you know base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► glass problem and I can up update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► frameworks blah blah who cares I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► developer I'm just a user I don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► bunch of my applications to go away why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► the main reason especially on phones is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► once you load a 32-bit application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► loads 32-bit libraries those take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► memory and it's better to just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► 64-bit ones in memory instead of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► do you know you'd have seven 64-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► applications all sharing a single you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► know shared memory instance of a library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► application it has to bring in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► 32-bit version a library just for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► application so you know if your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► will use less memory doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► things in theory and then the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► is just in a simplification if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► does have to support this old runtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► they can you know it it's a simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► operating system to not have to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► this old stuff and anytime you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► delete code and not include things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► just you know it simplifies everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► so and presumably that will make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► phone more stable and faster and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► applications more stable and faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► the idea so the benefit to the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► kind of esoteric and maybe not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► particularly visible but this is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► call progress you can't support 32-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► more on high sierra the high sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► format is the early logical file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► all of them were actually following up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► on this use the Jogi ROM the joke that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► John made during the live show joke was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► a memory yeah the High Sierra being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► a cd-rom format name yeah just to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► that High Sierra is not a come to words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► that have been combined just by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► for the purpose of the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that it is in fact a thing not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► know that this this volume format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► logical file system use for CD ROMs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► 1985-1986 right they named it after high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► sierra like they didn't also make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that term so i'm just defending the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► sierra name put a link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► to the wikipedia article on the topic oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► that's really old yeah that's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► before the ISO 9660 that's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► most CD ROMs were right remember the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► Mount Rainier packet writing standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that was trying like four did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► ever get packet writing CDRs to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► like work and not be a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► because I got like I got the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► expensive fancy one that I and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► would work and it really did you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► incrementally add dated cities it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► amazing technology that was like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► to how incredibly slow and unreliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► they were like there were so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► efforts put into trying to make CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► burners behave more like floppy so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► could just like write part of one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► then add some files to it later and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► maybe delete some files which wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► actually really delete them but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► just like mark that block as deleted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► just add some more at the end and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► were all these different standards of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► doing it and they tried to define like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► industry standards to combine them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► and it was always a giant buggy mess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► maybe maybe there's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► that like you Mac people John liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► maybe it was perfect for you and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► just crap on the PC side but I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► you one thing it was really crap on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► PC side and my first CD burner which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► from Yamaha which wasn't awesome we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► might have had the same one probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► everything else but you try to get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► of those packet writing things to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► and it's just like no other computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► could ever read them you were lucky if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► your computer could read it tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► like it's just terrible I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► say the reason he has problems using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► crappy IDE cd-rom drives for using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► scuzzy wants to and you know I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► pretty reputable reputable vendor yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► all of mine were obviously scuzzy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► get mine were super expensive top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► line Yamaha things with fancy bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► applications I had pretty good luck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► it I did it all the time that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► form of backups back before I had enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► money to have you know duplicate a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► drive space hard drives are still quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► expensive back then no I mean see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► having the first CD burners it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► awesome like it was amazing to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► to make your own mix CDs but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► everything that tried to make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► like a floppy or a hard drive just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► always sucked it so many problems before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► we leave this topic I will say one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► favorite pieces of esoteric optical disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► technology I ever owned was I had one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► the Kenwood Truex cd-rom drives that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► like by splitting the laser into seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► different beams and reading seven tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► in parallel that's different sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► super reliable and I'm sure was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► quiet when it's been seven - I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► because it because it was I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► only spinning at like 12 X and that's - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► it was way better than like the than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► the the 52 X CD ROMs of the time that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► would sounded like a four-stage jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► engine that spin up once a room like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► really super loud light was waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► the dista apart like a wheel that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► going to which they occasionally did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► I always I was always kind of surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► with the 52 X cd-rom this has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► surprising how few discs shattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► inside like they actually worked most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► the time and they really shouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► I was got nervous putting the sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► labels never do that the sticky labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► know oh yeah oh yeah you had to put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► on perfectly because it's like having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► unbalanced tire yeah get in their way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► but I remember all of that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► when we had one of our earlier pcs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► had an external cd-rom drive that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► had like a little tray or cartridge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► yes I could be the word I knew wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► cartridge but I can think of the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► we had had a CD caddy I remember that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► remember getting the CD burner early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► this was high school for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► remember I was very popular amongst high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► school kids because I could like make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► remember and Marco you particularly will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► appreciate this I got into briefly got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► into trading tapes in the Dave Matthews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► Band taping community because Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► Matthews fan band as we all agree is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► jam band and so I my first couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► trades what I had done was I had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► hey send me cassettes of what you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► and since I have nothing to trade I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► no concerts of my own I will digitize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► them put them on CD and send them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► to you and that's how I scored my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► couple of concerts and these were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► concerts that I had been at and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► concerts were very different from each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► other because as we said Dave Matthews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► Band is a jam band anyway we should move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► on and talk about a PFS a PFS is good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► as it turns out and uh yeah apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► and you know I know John you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► many words to say about this so Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► yeah sure it's a file system and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► new and it's not HFS+ and so therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► it's good let's move on moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► seriously did we did I talk about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► these things on a passion already I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► don't think you did I'm not a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► percent sure but I don't think you did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► I'm not done I'm Brett in a rare case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► me not finishing the previous episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► have like 40 minutes left on last week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► episode because we're recording this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► early slacker ah did I talk about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► the surrounding just it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► fine the people love you John if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► want they can skip to the next chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► that's what it's there for I will add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► caveat I may have talked about all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► everything I'm about to say in a past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► episode if I did I apologize but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► pretend I'm like a teacher and telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► you things multiple times to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► so maybe FS AP of s is good I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► some things about it in the AP FS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► session that I may have talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► last week it will convert your encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► drive so if you have five volt on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► don't have to worry about oh it won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► able to convert by thing because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► understands the file vault encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► and it will do all the things it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► do so you won't lose any data and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► won't lose any encryption it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► convert your fusion drives and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► converts them it will improve your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► fusion drives because a BFS unlike a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► char s plus will guarantee that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► metadata all stays on the SSD like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► that's where it writes the new AP FS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► meta did and it keeps it all there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► aside from the fusion drive saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► know moving the actual data like oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► files you access frequently will move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► the fat storage and leave the file as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► you access less frequently on a slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► storage yeah that's how fusion drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► works AP of s will make sure that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► the metadata all the information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► the files all the file names their sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► their dates where all the little data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► blocks are all that will stay on the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► always put them like things a lot faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► because reading metadata is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► involves a lot of seeks and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► small reads and it's great to have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► on the SSD disk utility the new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► of Disk Utility which I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► has a resizable window and resizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► columns yet I haven't checked but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► anyway it will convert your volumes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► you can open Disk Utility and point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► any age of s plus disk and say please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► assuming they're going to fix that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► you want to make it bootable you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► run the installer the the high sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► I could put it again I'm assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► will be fixed Mobile Time Machine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► thing that most people don't know exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► but does I think it still only runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► laptops like it if you're on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► laptop and you're not connected through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► a time capsule wirelessly or any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► time machine interface like you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► you have time machine on but as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► you could tell like your backup drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► are not you're not communicating with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► your backup drives like say you're on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► airplane or something you're editing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► document many years ago Apple added a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► thing but still backs up using time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► machine to your own disk it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► to protect you if your hard drive dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► because you're backing up your disk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► your disk but it supposed to save you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► like if you're editing something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► then a while later you accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► delete it and you're like oh I want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► back I'm on a plane it was my important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► well mobile Time Machine had been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► background making copies of your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► to this other location on your disk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► you can invoke time machine on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► airplane with no Wi-Fi and get back old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► versions of your documents there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► some caveats to that which we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► in a second but the AP FS story here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► that because abs has constant time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► consistent snapshot of your disk in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► small and fixed amount of time like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► doesn't depend on how much has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► since the last time writing like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► is just mark this as a consistent state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► and and it takes space on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► obviously and retain that but it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► it very quickly and very efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► which means the previous implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► of mobile Time Machine which is fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► intense like it was a mounting a virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► file system in the secret corner of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► drive and then writing to it as if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► was another volume but it's not like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► was really weird involving hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► directories and fakery making it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► like you have a second volume inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► your first volume and it would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► like crawl over all your files and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► the ones that have changed and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► copies of them to this virtual file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► system very very slow whereas the AP FS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► 1 is just snapshot as literal they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► couple seconds doesn't matter how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► stuff you've done since last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► did that the snapshot itself it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► constant time you can do it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► with a command line TM you till the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► machine your command line utility which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► is useful by the way on any Mac if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► just type man TM util to see all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► everything's you can delete old backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► and mess with your backups and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► screw yourself if you're not careful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► anyway it's it's a neat utility new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► command TM util space snapshot will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► a snapshot you can if you have high CR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► betta run it now you'll be amazed at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► quickly it runs the thing that bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► me about mobile time machine and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► understand why apples doing this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► it's still a little bit of a bother is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► it runs hourly and so for you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► working on a presentation and you hose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► it in some way you want the backup you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► can get the one from an hour ago but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► you just created this thing within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► current hour there are no backups of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► it's like oh how are that's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► wine shake you know I wish I wish I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► backups every 5 minutes or 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► well remember all these snapshots take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► up space because it basically says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► everything that's on your disk right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► save it and so if you delete a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► files they're still taking up space in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► the snapshot right so I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► they don't want to do like a snapshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► every five minutes cuz you fill your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► disk with snapshots even if they trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► them off the end so hourly is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► reasonable compromise but you know the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► mentioned TM you tell snapshot is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► well if you're paranoid you can set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► cron job that runs TM util snapshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► every five minutes while you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► flight and you'll be saved that pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► just remember to turn off later that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► important thing is those snapshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► happen really really quickly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► efficient than all the weird stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► was going on before so this is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► upgrade for mobile time machine we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► mentioned a couple shows ago hey when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► will Apple release the version of Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► that uses a us to make Time Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► better this isn't that because it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► for local backups but I assume in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► future version of the Mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► system assuming Apple continues along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► this road that I guess you called remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► time machine you know actual Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► Machine backups to a different volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► hopefully on a different disk will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► the the smarts of a PFS to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► intelligent I think they might be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► it now to just take the snapshot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► read from that snapshot to send to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► remote disk but it's not quite the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► thing as you can imagine like some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► deltas over oh it's changed I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► quite sure what they can do they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► do the same thing to ZFS where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► like block gifts and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► what's really cool but letting go is EFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► they want with a PFS so we got what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► got but anyway I feel like they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2926">TS</a>]
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00:49:45 ◼ ► they have a valley transfer service they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► will actually if you want to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► your login to your old domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► registrar they will actually transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/2991">TS</a>]
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00:50:04 ◼ ► privacy feature nobody should ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► charge extra for that and hover doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3006">TS</a>]
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00:50:23 ◼ ► discount on the depreciation fees and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3023">TS</a>]
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00:51:01 ◼ ► fuss is about thank you so much to hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► for sponsoring our show can we please do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► a topic let's know we have two three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► pages of follow-up left to do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► this feels like we need to declare like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► a follow up barrier and just like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► can go through we can go through them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3082">TS</a>]
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00:51:32 ◼ ► you two ready buckle up Matt bid all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► frights iMac pros price comparisons PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► gamer had a handbill PC from parts image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► that matches the iMac pro and spec it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► cost four thousand six hundred eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► six dollars versus Apple's 4999 Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► flattery Wright's iMac model price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► comparisons just notice you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► read the follow-up items that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► you go through quickly you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► to have commentary from everybody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► each item we just have abbreviated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► commentary ya back opening price is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► bill clarity go ahead bill you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► happen Marco we try it's not just a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► to evening this is what you guys so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► this is the show so you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► reading quickly is how you get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► it quickly how you get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► quickly is by not having extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► conversations by saying one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► though how we get through it quickly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► by not breathing when I'm reading at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► that's how we get through quickly I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► going to I'm going to build some gills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► and give them to myself that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► will show you if you'd like me to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► next one I can do anyway I'm with roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► price comparison the thing I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► point out here is anytime there's price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► comparisons from one computer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► the iMac Pro versus some PC that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► build it like hey if you match the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► specs of the iMac Pro you end up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► pretty expensive PC to the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► little asterisks that's on all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► stories is no sane person would build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► PC like the iMac Pro because most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► who need likes a really big GPU for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► gaming honking up at a Xeon and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► not going to have a cc ram and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► not going to have this really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► 5k display so even though this price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► comparison is right nobody know no PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► builder would build a PC like the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► Pro for most of the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► build pcs for because they would Taylor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► it wouldn't be the most expensive best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► everything you can put in the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► they would decide I care about you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► care about ECC I care about the CPU do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► care about the 5k screen and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► end up with less expensive machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► so Billy Flaherty's he points out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► between the mid and high end IMAX not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► the iMac Pro with IMAX with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► configuration have the same price but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► the high end has the better video is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► screenshot we will put his tweet in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► show notes yeah I mean look when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► play with a configurator sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► oh well apples you know not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► perfect and we aren't always perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► let's move on well that means the advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► here is if you're configuring a Mac try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► config you know you click on one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► in like pick three or whatever try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► other one too and try to match the specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► it's worth doing once or twice just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► make sure the prices aren't out of whack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► bingo John you had volunteered to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► this next piece oh it's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► can't pronounce this victors last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► Victor wrote in to tell us that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► kit protocol thank you now opened all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► devs you can build a smart device using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► Heidi Pratt said Arduino Arduino yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► believe that's right yeah and control it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► buy a home kit without getting an MFI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► license so this seems like oh great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► Apple has opened up home kit and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► don't have to go through all this owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► of stuff to get home kit certified but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► this is twist right so this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► interoperability people can build things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► that are compatible with home kit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► you don't have to be an MFI made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► iPhone is that still what it stands for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► is this made for iPod I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► should be for made for iOS anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► don't have to get that license and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► is Apple's explanation say at a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► level differences will include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► process for onboarding and IP based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► success rate to the network and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► warning dialog in iOS that the user must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► acknowledge before continuing so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► you don't have to be certified as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► of the program and you can interoperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► right but you can't you won't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► Apple authentication coprocessor or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► and you won't have the Wi-Fi Alliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► certification and the user of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► device will get a warning dialog so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► not it's great for hackers it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► opened up hey if you want to mess with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► something and you can bypass these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► like when you right-click open something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► on the Mac you know power users can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► it but it doesn't suddenly make homekit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► a free-for-all for everybody in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► if you want to be part of the home Kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► ecosystem as the first classes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► still have to go through all the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► stuff but this is nice for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► just want to hack something the other to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► get it working the App Store guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► have been updated to allow programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► environments and so put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► show notes to this apps designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► teach develop or test executable code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► may in limited circumstances download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► code provided that such code is not used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► for other purposes such apps must make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► application completely viewable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► editable by the user not surprising but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► nevertheless somewhat interesting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► programming environment such a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► it's nice to see them turn the corner on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► this does this mean that Xcode for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► is any closer No yeah you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► same distance it's always been which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► think is actually pretty close but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► does mean that people trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► program compliance for iOS chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► wearing programming environments for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► no longer have to deal with AB review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► just summarily rejecting them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► they execute code from the internet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► whatever speaking of the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► reviews no longer reset on update but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► may optionally do so do we not get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► this list episode I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► exciting development an app starland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► yeah short version is basically before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► when you submit a new update to an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► all your reviews would reset you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► have to click over like the all reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► tab now there are no more two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► tabs now but there's only one set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► reviews and every time you submit a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► version you could now choose whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► want your reviews to reset by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► they don't which is good so if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► like a really huge buggy horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► version your app and you get a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► bunch of one stars and your next update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► you want to reset the slate you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► that but by default you're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► a whole bunch of reviews all mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► together from all previous versions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► it'll be fine and you won't lose your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► all right additionally with the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► Store the review API this this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► developers to say hey why don't you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► review my app or rate my app or blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► blah blah they it's they had announced a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► new API somewhat recently doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► exactly when a parent thank you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► vote use use the provided API to prompt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► users to review the your app this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► functionality allows customers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► provide an app store rating and review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► without the inconvenience leaving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► app and we will disallow custom review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► prompts yet the only thing here is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► we don't know it doesn't they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► actually say when they are disallowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► your own custom rate this app prompt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► they also don't say how they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► going to be enforcing this and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► probably not going to ever say that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► you know there's been rules against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► using push notifications for promotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► beginning of push notifications and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► if you look at pretty much everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► phone that isn't you know yours as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► computer nerd and maybe even yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► almost everyone else's phone always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► on the lock screen a notification from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► some mass-market app that's like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► these things are now on sale come buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► those are against the rules they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► always been against the rules but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► has never enforced it because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► hard thing to enforce so this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► those things to are like are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► actually going to find a way to enforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► a ban on custom rate disapp dialogues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► maybe but it sounds like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► are they going to do like have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► using the app inside Apple and hitting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► report button when an app does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► because it's not going to do it during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► like the two minutes that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► reviewing it during app review so I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► this sounds like something that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► be nice I hope they can find a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► enforce this but based on their rate of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► enforcement on spam push notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► I'm not hopeful no argument here there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► a question can we see iPad and Mac apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► on iPhone in the iOS 11 App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► probably not if so it's a bug who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► moving on Troad winterboard writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► previous keynotes you've discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► apple's efforts for quality on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► it's even more important to do so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► it's as bad as this year was it that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► did I miss like it was pretty bad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► think it can you think back to who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► saw on stage during the keynote did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► see anybody except for white guys there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► were a couple of women but it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► think it was a worse ratio than usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► yeah and as we discussed in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► like this is not the type of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► in a year because it's not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► going to fire all your senior executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► and bring up other people like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► but is the people who are in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► the things that are being announced like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► responsible for them get to get up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► and show off their thing and you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► reasonable ratio you know some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► diversity that you know that it reflects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► the the diversity that you want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► company to have at Apple's top executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► ranks the diversity is not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► and so every time there is a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► that is announced for you know you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/3628">TS</a>]
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01:07:34 ◼ ► running it like 1/2 X whereas since my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► MacBook Pro would do it at like 1 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► 1/2 X and I haven't done this on my iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► in a long time but um but anyway I all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► kidding aside I I do love this thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► is not without problems but I do love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► it is unbelievably light and I picked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► Aaron's MacBook Air which is several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► years old now but I mean obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► nothing has changed on the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► except that megahertz boosts that it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► so her MacBook Air is a aircraft carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► comparison weighs a ton and in fact just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► the other just this morning I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► carrying my beloved iPad Mini which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► also ancient and also effectively brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► new funny how that works and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► carrying my iPad Mini and my MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► adorable and it occurred to me based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► no facts based on just what it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► it felt like my third-generation iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► you know the one that John and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► had that we both loved that was the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► was the the first of the retina iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► which kind of weighed ton kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► overheated a lot the combination of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► MacBook adorable and my iPad felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► roughly the same weight as the full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► iPad from a few years ago the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► there are pluses and minuses overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► would say I like it I absolutely do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► bored if it had 20 to 30% more travel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► think I would start moving toward love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► and it's hard to describe because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► weird um it's a weird turn of phrase but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► it feels more stable this keyboard then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► perhaps even my beloved magic keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► just don't move laterally in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► that's certainly my MacBook Pro does my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► MacBook Pro is effectively unusable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► keyboard right now because between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► magic keyboard a nice keyboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► MacBook Pro is like it's like typing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► it you know the MacBook Pro keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► not that not the new fancy-pants ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► I'm talking about before the scissor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► switches the MacBook Pro keyboard are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► the Lexus IS of keyboards they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► marshmallows of keyboards it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► typing on pillows I don't mean that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► the like ah comfortable way I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► in the oh god this feels gross way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► like those keyboard pillows comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► it's Python you can buy all the keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► you know you can feel where the arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► keys are without looking or missing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► row no no I so first of all I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► hilarious how many people have yelled at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► keyboard so much when even the fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► basically if you're a fan of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► keyboard you will tend to complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► much about the old one so either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► it's like because the new keyboard is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► different from the old ones if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► the new one you're going to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► I think that's mostly true however I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► in retrospect because at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► thought was a perfectly fine keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► it's just now I've seen the light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► now I don't ever want to type on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► mushy marshmallow a disgusting mess ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► again but no I do love this MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► I don't feel generally speaking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► it's particularly slow I have done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► little bit of Xcode on it I've done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► basically you know some basic computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► tasks in to be fair this thing is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► really intended to be a powerhouse right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► it's intended to be a travel computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► it's intended to be in around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► house computer it's an intended to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► basically a I don't want to use my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► computer or I don't want to be sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► in my in-home office computer computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► oh it's for anywhere that's not either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► my actual office or the office in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► house everywhere else I would be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► this I do still use my iPad from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► time and for better or worse as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► I snark like I I absolutely believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► you can get worked on on an iPad for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► as I've said before and I was joking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► earlier but for me every time I use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► iPad to do work and define work however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► but the sorts of work that I do I either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► can't do it on an iPad because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► no Xcode on an iPad or it's it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► considerably more difficult because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► something like transcoding a video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► ffmpeg which I do way more often than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► any normal human should I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► you know remote into my iMac and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► that way and might the particular iPad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► have doesn't have a keyboard attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► it and so for me any time I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► accomplish anything on the iPad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► genuinely feels like I have a ball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► chain attached to me I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► that's true for you Mike it's okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► don't have to yell at me but for for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► that is true and so having an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► friggin computer that can do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► that's as light in portable as an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► in my personal opinion is amazing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► love this thing the one thing I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► sure I love is the one part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► macbook one because by and large I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► actually don't mind having only one port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► I mean I'm pouring one out for MagSafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► because man do I love MagSafe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► generally I don't really mind having one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► port I've gotten two or three I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► three dongles I have a I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► anchor we'll put links in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► it's in its I believe it's an anchor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► device that has three traditional USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► what is that USB a I always get wrong um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► thank you three USB a ports and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► Gigabit Ethernet jack or port connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► whatever interface on it but it does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► and that's a bummer so as an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► when I wanted to do my initial time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► machine back up I had to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► this damn thing was topped up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► otherwise I wasn't gonna make it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► there's like not that much data on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► uncomfortable and that's something I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► never had to worry about before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► that's kind of frustrating if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► particular device of this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► Ethernet adapter had passed through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► I got a SD card reader I don't often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► take pictures off my camera I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► never do it on the road but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► have the ability to do so I don't lament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► the fact that there's not an SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► slot on the device would I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► of course how much my card reader thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► twelve I think from mana price and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► already used it and it works it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► very cheap would I preferred to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► the on the computer of course but am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► bitter about it not being now it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► small it was like twelve or thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► dollars again I'll put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► show notes and it seems to work just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► yeah just add it to your dongle bag that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► we all have to carry now and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► thing like yes in I do have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► dongle bag the other thing I got was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► HDMI adapter which does have passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► through power and this particular one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► also has a single USB a port on it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► general-purpose adapter because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► passed through power it has USB a and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► has HDMI so it has any of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► would typically want to have while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► having passed through power the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► thing it doesn't have is Ethernet so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► guess maybe in retrospect I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► gotten a a USB a Ethernet adapter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► presumably would have been speed limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► whatever it doesn't matter but to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► point I have yet to order but plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► order a a small little I forget the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► of it but a Tom bin bag that I can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► all of these little dongles in and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► my USB C dongle bag there's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► many of them I don't feel like I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► but I needed them well for the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► portability you now need to dongle back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► I have one too and for the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► because like I use these new computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► now when I'm when traveling and well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► need that I mean the one thing so before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► it before I make you continue and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► me all about how more stuff about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► do want to interject one brief thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► here and that is that even even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► I've been using the MacBook Escape as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► computer for this role the methylase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► cave has only two ports and I have found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► that to be incredibly inconvenient more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► often than I expected and so to go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► to well so for example during our live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► stream the the MacBook Escape was was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► computer that I was it was doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► live broadcast it was playing sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► effects into this into the PA system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► like our you know add bumpers and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► recording reels anyway so I was using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► because we were in like a room full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► laptops and nerds I didn't want to rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► on Wi-Fi so I had an Ethernet connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► connection so that's Ethernet takes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► one of the dog or one of the spots the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► audio interface because there's no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► audio line-in functionality in any in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► any mac except for the Mac Mini anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► I don't know why except just to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► money I guess I line in used to come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► every computer I don't know why Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► decided nobody needs line anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► because it's really cheap to add it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► really cheap to be there it doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► a lot of space it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► it stays room for that why isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► room for a wine in but whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► reason Apple decides that computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► don't need line in Jack's anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► so you need an entire audio interface or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► USB sound card or something if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► a line in on a computer so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► Ethernet in one port line in audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► interface on the other port that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► and I also wanted power so and what so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► have a few options here I can get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► kind of dongle and I actually bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► Apple dongle that is the the expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► like $70 one that has the one HDMI port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► pass-through that that's basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► I have but a but a cheap knockoff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► and the reason I bought the Apple one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► because I was using this in production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► like in a live show with a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► people in the room sure I did not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► any part of that thing to fail the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► problem is that that's a USB a port on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► there and so one thing one thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► very interesting as I found as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► trying to convert to a USBC lifestyle as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► convenience when traveling trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► make it as much as we stuff as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► and actually listener Remy wrote in I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► not sure he didn't say whether we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► use his last name so I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► listen to Remy wrote in a few days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► basically pointing out this this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► in the USB see ego system right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► as far as he could tell and I agree as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► far as I can tell is anybody making hubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► that convert a USB C port two more USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► interesting point and I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► there is one some way or maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► many but I certainly have not stumbled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► across one yeah neither and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► actually the LG 5k monitor is one such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► standalone hubs that like you convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► one USB C port to like four USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► like I've never I have not seen that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► of the problems with the USB C lifestyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► is what I was facing with this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► dongle which is like okay so I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► USBC cable for my sound interface and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► have a USB C Ethernet adapter and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► a USB C power adapter the Apple dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► thing only converts one to one on C so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► it has an a port but then I then I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► to have an AE thinner adapter which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► don't have I haven't had it since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► MacBook Air I can move the sound card to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► that but I wasn't sure I want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► as critical as the sound card to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► going through a dongle with a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► little mini hub in it so the USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► ecosystem is actually kind of hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► fully adopt right now because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► generally as far as we can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► can't multiply USB C ports you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► think oh good my computer has two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► four or in your case one USB C port but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► that also replaces the power port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► so like that well if you actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► to be plugged into power you just lost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► port which might be your only one or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► least so now you're down from two to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► accustomed to most Apple laptops for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► last many years have generally had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► USB ports on them and you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► plugged into power and also have two USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► well now you're down to on the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► one you run to zero on the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► escape you have one if you're plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► and so like it's and and if you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► try if you actually spend the lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► money on one of the Apple dongles or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► less money but still money on one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► third-party ones that by the way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► look at Amazon reviews for third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► USB see hubs and dongles and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► the reviews are all over the map and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► most of them seem like they're at best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► inconsistent maybe unreliable they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► have a lot of problems it seems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► they're probably all using this we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► one of a very small number of chipsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► and things maybe those are the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► who knows what the problem is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► regardless it's a problem like if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► want to reliably multiply these ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► it's really hard to do that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► that's a big problem and and your now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► that you're in this useless to me you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► going to find that as well anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► what I ended up doing for our live show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► I just ran on battery power the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► time which is a terrible solution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► the MacBook Escape which has amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► battery power but you're not doing much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► ghostwrote goes from you know twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► hours battery life when you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► casually browsing Safari to if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► actually like running stuff off of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► goes to about three hours of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► life and that's not great it when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► running a podcast like this one uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► deep it was like it you know I so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► basically juggling like before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► I would like you know unplug the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► card and plug in power for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► then right before we started like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► know yank that out like switch over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► bidding then you can't test things it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► was a it was actually really incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► inconvenient and that was that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► keyboard stopped working that was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► the first times what I actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► regret having the escape because having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► community and and this is not the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► time that this has been inconvenient for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► me but having one port I imagine for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► is is even worse yeah it is innocent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► think if this was my only computer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► would get really ugly really quickly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► I would probably have some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► ridiculous dock but again the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► point of this machine is to be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► what I ended up with was $80 worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► dongles and cables there evening so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► Lightning I didn't mention previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► but I got a lightning USBC cable off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► Amazon again and knock off that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► eight bucks the HDMI adapter which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► basically the same thing that add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► Apple sells except a knockoff from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► on a price that was 30 bucks the SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► reader was twelve dollars and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► ethernet thing was $30 and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► roughly I'll have links in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► notes all of these seem to work fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► they're not terribly large they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► work okay if this was my only computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► I'd be really grumpy and bitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► since it's not in since I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► be doing terribly challenging difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► tasks on it for the most part it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► really not bad at all and I see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► USBC will be pretty cool and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► I can see that is I wanted to try out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► HDMI cable and so I brought the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► MacBook adorable downstairs I hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► an HDMI cable to the TV hooked up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► cable to the dongle hooked up the dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► to the MacBook and then I thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► myself I wonder if I can power this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► at the same time just to see because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► thought for a minute I would like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► watch a movie off of it just to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► it would work and it occurred to me wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► a second my switch dock is right here as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► is my pro controller charging cable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► actively charging the MacBook but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► at least slightly keeping it afloat by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► taking the charging cable for the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► controller on the switch which I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► is USB a two USB C so comes out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► controller or in my case the MacBook as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► USB see and it seemed to work and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► sure over hours it would eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► drain my battery but it was very wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► that that was an acceptable way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► things and additionally I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► underscore who has one of these as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► travel computers far as I'm aware anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► and he was saying that what you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► is you can issue the the actual charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► brick that came with it which by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► eight to my eyes looks barely any bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► than the you the the iPad charging brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► that's been the iPad charging brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► forever I understand there's one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► works with the iPad blah blah blah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► the same one with the right cable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► works with the iPad but this thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► charging brick is comically small well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► anyways what underscore was saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► just use like one of your anchor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► whatever USB a like hubs that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► nothing but charge just let the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► run sit overnight suspended charging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► it'll be just fine it'll be topped up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► the morning and I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► necessarily need to go to that route but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► the foot but the fact that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5098">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► option that's super cool so I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► how this USBC lifestyle could be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► but it's definitely not a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► percent awesome yet I don't know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► computer for work yet right no they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► notified me about it they said hey we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► going to buy the new ones guess what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► then they started giving me flak about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► wanting a one terabyte drive because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► cost a bazillion dollars from Apple so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► we're working on it why do you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► one terabyte drive for work a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► virtual machines I asked me the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► question why I need such a big drive of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► it but you have unlimited space on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► Microsoft onedrive or blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► like you know when I'm are on a virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► machine off of there why do you have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► many virtual machines well because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► we're doing local development and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► and docker runs in a virtual machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► virtual machines for other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► flavors of Linux and it's just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► it is so you sound just like them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► do you need all this stuff like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► what I got as soon as you said VM the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► conversation was over for me and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► not is it yeah it's not just one VM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► like the try to go in something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► can't run a VM off like onedrive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► Google Drive for me good but you'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► be painful so we'll see how that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► but and also like one of the big reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► is like you can never upgrade it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► that's that's a segue that is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► justification you need like if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► buying an Apple laptop or at most Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► today actually if you're buying a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► data it does not have a gradable storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► then the answer to why do you need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► terabyte is literally like you can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► upgrade this so if you want this laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► to last however many years that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► intend it to last you have to really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► as much storage as you can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► because that is one like barrier just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► that's like you could never change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► work there never an upgraded anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► anyway they don't know Karen there my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► main pitch was like look the Mac I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► using right now is eight years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► coming break here I already saved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► company a lot of money yeah nice yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► don't think I was specific by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► about what I ordered and for the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► I ordered the basically maxed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► MacBook adorable because to build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► what you were just saying the conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5218">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► I've come to is when buying a Mac this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► manufacturers but when buying a Mac the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► order of operations is get as much RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► as you possibly can that's step one step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► two is get as much disk space as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► possibly can within your budget and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► step three in my personal estimation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► get the biggest processor you possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► can given your budget and I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► Ram makes the biggest difference SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► because of all the reasons Marco just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► gave you and then finally CPU because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► why not and so I got a maxed out MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► adorable and it was not cheap but it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► do anything I want it to do maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► with the speed I want it to because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► I was saying you know the transcoding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► something in ffmpeg is not fast but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► is otherwise to me a no compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► machine and that's really awesome the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► only thing that I think is slightly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► compromise that that does make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► jealous of my iPad Mini is I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► want cellular in it I get it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► need it it's no kind of real is it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► kind of frivolous but God it would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► nice no it's not frivolous it's 2017 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► having cellular in laptops which pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► dudes like in 2005 like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► not a ridiculous thing to ask for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► this is something that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► could use like like I you know I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► getting it on iPads basically forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► because it really does make iPads way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► articulate me and yes I know tethering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► just and tethering has gotten way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► than it used to be it's way easier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► it used to be to use but what to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► cellular built in is way better and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► like now the data plans are even are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► cheaper than ever and like when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► a combined family plan like it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► costs me 10 bucks a month to have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► my cellular plan so Nhu the same shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► pool of massive data that I have from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► AT&T for just another 10 bucks a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► like so it's to me it's a no-brainer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► an iPad and the second they release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► cellular laptops if Apple ever does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► I will immediately trade in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► cellular like that that is how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► want that like it it is such a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► it's one of those things that unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► experience like having a Wi-Fi only iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► and then having a cellular iPad which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► the exact path I went through I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► think you'll ever really understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► understand tethering is a thing yes I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► aware that you can turn on tethering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► from the other device if they're all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► the same iCloud account yada yada yada I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► am aware that it is as easy as it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► possibly be to make tethering against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► another device work I get it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► will never ever be as convenient as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► having the connection on the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► you're on it just won't if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► sitting there and you have a furrowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► brow and you're like what is he talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► about that's like no I'm telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► it's the way it is try it sometime it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► like the different it's like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► having to like use a dial-up API like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► dial-up interface on your on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► connect to the tether now disconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► from the tether to save the battery on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► the tethering thing or to make it stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► burned it in the background in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► backpack like it's you have to manage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► it's still something you have to manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► you have to do you have to sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► wait for and you're still then draining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► the battery to your phone or having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► plug it into one of your one USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► like it's it's not it everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► that is painful but something at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► another reason I ran into with my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► planning with the live show is that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► backup option before I got to the venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► I was thinking I might have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► tethering as the internet connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► again I'm not going to rely on wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► tethering in a room full of a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► people with Apple devices so I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► to use USB tethering and I had to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► lightning cables with both types of USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► ends so I could make sure that I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► able to plug in with either the dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► it's just friction it's just all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► things they just add friction the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► transition is adding friction the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► that it still isn't like no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► much money you're willing to spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► dongles and new cables right now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► still can't fully transition to USBC so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► you're still you're still gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► living in a mixed world for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► and it still sucks and you there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► these meetings is like a like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► now I my teeth ernet adapter is USBC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► now I can't play with USB a port if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► ever have to use a hub or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► only output USB a like there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► there's gonna be these problems forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► right tethering and versus built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► cellular is like a it's similar it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► like it's just friction it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► friction and when there's friction you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► use things less or it gets in the way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► sometimes it doesn't work like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► think like when it's built in will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► every time when it's not built in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► you're tethering like occasionally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► won't work and that would be annoying or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► a problem for you like having it built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5513">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► Thunderbolt hubs to try to solve your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► because I know USB C hubs multipliers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► apparently aren't out there the tipster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► hasn't delivered his Promised One but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► like a thunderbolt UBB that gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► Ethernet and a bunch of USB ports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► audio and all the stuff you looked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► that you know I haven't yet maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► Thunderbolt hubs ever really were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► adopted by enough people to even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► whether they suck or not I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► hesitant to also invest in any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 gear is probably still too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► young or not even out yet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► depending so well and I can't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► either because if I understand you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► have Thunderbolt right exactly if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► correctly I don't have Thunderbolt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► I can get to externally so so it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► that's useless I'm stuck with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► straight USB C and I'm not saying office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► ly that that's true for everyone but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► me it's USB C or bust and and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► mean so far I really love this thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► travelling with it very very soon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► we'll see what I think of it then part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► of the draw of getting such a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► computer was on the plane back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► the person in front of me decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► recline and I have very strong opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► about jerks people who recline their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► seats and planes and read and when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► there was no way for me to use my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► except perhaps reclining but I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► gentleman so I wouldn't do that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► was no way to use my 15 inch laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► without giving myself horrible pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► somewhere on my body as silly as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► sounds that 2 or 3 inches that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► infringed upon what is my space damn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► that made the difference between me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► being able to use my computer and me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► where is this thing I mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► almost an iPad I could pretty much use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► it anywhere and and I just I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► really love it I'm super happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► the Space Gray is so darn good-looking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► don't know why anyone would buy any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► definitely does have some problems here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► and there it has some catches it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► some some issues most notably I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► even just one more USB C port would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► a world of difference but generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► speaking for the purpose I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► for the purpose this this laptop exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► in my world which is to be an accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► to be either a portable machine to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► something it to do everything in a pinch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► or to just be an accessory so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► have to do everything at all it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► pretty much perfect and I am overjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► with it now ask me again once I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► getting some real time with with one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► the bigger iPads on iOS 11 and maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► going to start having some buyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► remorse because this new this new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► and iOS 11 does look darn good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► don't think that will ever really change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► the fact that this computer can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► everything I wanted to do maybe not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► speed at which I wanted to do maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► without a few dongles that I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► didn't have to carry but it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► literally everything I want it to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► whereas an iPad for me either can't or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► can't do it without having a Mac nearby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► or having a keyboard nearby or about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► without having any number of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► to support it and while I deeply respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► the mics and the Federico's and the Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► Brooks's of the world who can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► a way to make this technology work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► workflow which again is one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► mind-blowing ly amazing apps written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► unbelievably great great people if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► have to write a a workflow in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► get this device to do what I want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► do then to me that it's already failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► because I have to bend the device to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► whereas this computer this tiny adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► darling little computer of mine can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► everything right off the bat and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► what's important to me you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► sell a ski racks for the top of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► mmm-hmm they should sell that for night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► books like you would just be like a ski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► rack for your for your MacBook and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► just click on all your dongles right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► yeah right I think they would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► hammer home the point that Marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► getting at before which is like you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► these computers that is super slim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► because portability is paramount right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► but then everybody needs to bring some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► other thing with them to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► computer usable for them and that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► other thing compromises portability so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► much more than an extra millimeter would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► another thing no I suppose if you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► need to bring anything then you win the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► portability like yes thank God it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► portable and smaller and light but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► you have to bring a single dongle then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► it's like game over and having an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► rack attached to the back of them would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► be a nice way to communicate to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► like that ever became a popular product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► like look you made this thing portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► but then we put it head to put a ski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► rack on thanks a lot yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► the thing like when whatever Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► removes a port we hear from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► say things like well I never use anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► like you know just now I was 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► ago I was ranting about how no Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► have line in imports anymore except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► Mac Mini the the reasoning behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► that almost any Apple fan would come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► with in two seconds because it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► that hard to come up with this reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► well most people don't use that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► one I've never used it like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► everyone says whenever Apple remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► something that I like everyone else says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► well I I've never used that port but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► like for everyone that's different so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► one thing that I would say about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► with all my previous you know laptops is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► that I've never used the HDMI port but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► lot of people do use the HDMI port and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► you know what even when I say I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► used the HDMI port that's probably wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► I've probably used it like once or twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► and during those once or twice times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► bet I was really glad I had it and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► line in Jack for audio like this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► of those things where it's like it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► that hard to add there they already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► the entire like USB audio codec chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► these computers anyway like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► cost them almost nothing additional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► while most people don't usually use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► sometimes people use it and during those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► times it's really nice to have it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► would say the same thing about so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► other features like I never use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► front-facing camera on any of my things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► but a lot of people do so it's fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► never use many of the capabilities most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► people don't use all of the humilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► of the computers and the computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► devices they have that does not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► that the correct design decision is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► get rid of everything like there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► obsession with getting rid of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► minimizing things deleting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► erasing things the reality is like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► are general purpose devices and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► they can do the more useful they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► going to be to people the more they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► going to help people the more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► they're going to be able to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► people need them to do with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► equipment they already have without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► buying a bunch of dongles and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► them with you all the time I really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► wish that Apple would have the courage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and I'm using this word deliberately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► sometimes to have the courage to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► know what even though most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► use say the SD card slot for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► that do that's incredibly useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► it's not really you know being a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► for us to keep it there so let's keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► there or how about maybe if we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► to have a whole new line of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► that is reducing the number of ports it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► has down to almost nothing how about we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► of that port that we possibly can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► maybe they are now I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► know the details about thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► bandwidth and stuff but like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► Apple needs to step back a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► from the obsession with removing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► because it really does overall make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► these things less useful in times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► people don't expect that or don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► welcome that or we have to patch over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► over these wonderful beautiful objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► with things like dongle bags and our in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► our bags that now we have to carry these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► additional things and spend the 80 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► dollars on all these additional adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► that we didn't need before with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► computers that we bought a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► we didn't need a dongle to to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► common thing and now we do and is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► have we really made progress like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► sounds worse to me there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► nothing wrong with a computer having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► capability that most of its customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► don't use if it's not costing you a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► to have it there if it's not causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► some kind of big problem what's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► deal with having it there for the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► when someone does need it and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► can be happily delighted that oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► computer can do this new thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► need to do suddenly right now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► didn't that I didn't predict or plan for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► by dongle for ahead of time what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► bad about that I think the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► it's it's to get rid of them simplifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► things to get rid of them makes things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► smaller and thinner and as much as I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► a hundred percent behind you on thinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► being a bad thing for phones like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► could stand to have our phones get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► little thicker and you've been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► that for a long time and I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► you in this case though I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► concede that this thing being is thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► and light as it is it's pretty nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► oh yeah and others I mean there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► differences here like I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► that that the one super thin super light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► computer in the lineup has to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► million ports on it because obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► that actually doesn't have the room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► it and I but I'm talking about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► know okay I got over them removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► Ethernet a while ago because well even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► that's really big you know so that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► sense but like SD cards and audio jacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► like and you like you can fit those in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► thin bodies it's not it isn't a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► like that's a lot of these things seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► to have been removed just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► thought people didn't use them enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► anymore or they were tired of shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► them or something like and okay but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► know III really it's it's hard it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► to tell whether some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► were removed for good reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► benefit the customers or for reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► that only benefit Apple for the benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► nobody or we all know they just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► add a second USB port to the adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► Emma needs an SD card reader to the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► giant expensive 15-inch and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► then maybe put four ports on the escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► and we're all happy like that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► asking for the moon here you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► you're not gonna be even a part of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► things but if you had for us BC on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► escape you'd be able to get over a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► of the weird USBC ecosystems you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► like well whatever I'll get four dongles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► and plug them all in and power right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► on the escape you know it is super thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► you don't have room for much of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► but you know how about a second second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► port you know maybe if there'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► computer than that it's fine and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► big giant 15-inch that has everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► SD card plus 5 USB see who's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► complain about that you can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► still complain about the audio and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► missing although I think any analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► input at this point is crazy so it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► have to be the optical one with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► you know little light at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► thing they get rid of optical too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► all the new MacBook Pros they used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► the hybrid Jack that that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► optical out they've also the IMAX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► getting rhythm - which is unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► because I use mine but oh well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► the that I only pick certain battles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► yeah I think they're saying that the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► know digital audio through USB is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► way to go like I'm all like I said I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► all on board with the USB see is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► are tiny just you please give us more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► them or I suppose Apple can come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► some kind of reliable hub because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► on you know I suggest the Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► tub is a solution to your problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► you know it's not the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► you'd want to order a week before going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► to WWC even cross your fingers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► thing doesn't flake out because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► all know hubs are notoriously flaky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► exactly it would be nice if every nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► of Apple didn't leave this as a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► party opportunity for those things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► so yeah they're close like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► lines are close on you know their laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► lines are close on the things they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► that a couple shows ago I'm glad they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► put us ba on the iMac because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► like there's not room for it back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► plenty room and boys in it convenient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► not have even more dongles hanging off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► the back of your fancy new iMac and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► statements that whoever was said during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► the Mac roundtable about the Mac bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► that they're thinking about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► MacBook Pros that address some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► customer use needs the easy answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► guess what you already saw those they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► mount some of WWC how do you like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► but I'm still holding out hope like know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► they they meant they're gonna add SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► card to the 15-inch right right no me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► oh it could happen if it's that we huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► there's so much room for it there also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► one thing I want to argue about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► Thunderbolt hub thing for a second here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► so so people in the chat pasted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► link to apparently the Belkin did make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 hub so first of all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► three hundred and fifty dollars and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► is not just the one time like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► every Thunderbolt hub that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► existed that actually is Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► base and not just USB they're almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► like three hundred dollar range like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► that ballpark so so it's like it like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► solution number one is that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► expensive and number two is that it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► all ports that aren't USB sea ports it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► heads USB AAA ports you know Ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► just DisplayPort homes just and then two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 2 ports well who needs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► like if you're moving to this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► ecosystem you want Thunderbolt 3 devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► that use USB C so like and and on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► that it needs its own giant power supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► and they tell you just as like as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► geek wisdom thing one of one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► peripherals or you know things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► peripherals why they often fail or suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► is crappy or unreliable AC DC power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► supplies like it basically if your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► is not bus powered if it is powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► its own external power brick not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► does that make your desk and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► Messier but also it is way more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► to suck or fail because those power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► they oh they're always crap and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► the one thing you do not want is to rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► on one of those power bricks or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► introduce them into your setup and cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► interference or they always suck they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► always cheap pieces of crap and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► anything you can do to avoid needing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► external power into a peripheral you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► but then also that also means that USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► hubs you know are often either unpowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► which sucks then you plug in devices not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► enough power or you know they they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► these these things or they only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► like two ports you know so it's like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► of these hub solutions almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► suck the way to make you the USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► ecosystem not suck is to a have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► have as many of these ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► computers as you can fit and as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► chipset can power and drive like step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► one try to avoid the need for hubs at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► all because what what the correct answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► if you're arguing for the USB see future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► slash now it's really the present if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► you're arguing for the USB see world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► should be totally accommodating and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► should be awesome for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► willing to go out and buy USB see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► everything like look you okay so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► bought a new laptop I bought my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► like I went out and I bought a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► Ethernet adapter and a USB see SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► reader and USB see lightning cables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► like because I'm like you know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► gonna do this I'm going to go all-in I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► gonna get all USB USB see stuff but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► you do that now it still sucks because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► multiplier hubs out there as we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► earlier so like you still have to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► in this weird mixed world and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► dealing with all these unreliable hubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► with crappy Amazon reviews that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► by no-name companies and even the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► from good companies like anchor have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► terrible reviews and it's like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► seems like this whole world of like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► USB see relies currently today on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► ecosystem of crappy hubs that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► ruin the whole thing like once you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► beyond the ports in your computer and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► what we need is for the computers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► need fewer hubs a by having more ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► and B we need good hubs and I know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► is like this is not an exciting topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► but like think about how long it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► to find good usb3 hubs like just with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► be a port on it I mean it took I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► know if you guys have good ones it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► me like two years to find a good USB 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► hub that didn't flake out and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► disconnect drives randomly that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► plugged into it and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► comparably ancient very few hubs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► good but there are a few that exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► we need good USB C hubs now and we as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► far as I can tell from the world out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► there I don't think we have any that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► actually give you more USB seaports let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► alone good ones and the ones that give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► you different ports again as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► they they don't seem to be consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► good and so if this role is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► happen if this is going to actually take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► off we need those two things we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► more ports and laptops I mean great hubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► and until that happens it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► really a pain to have a USB see devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► and I kind of feel like would it kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► Apple to make a good hub like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► it's the most boring Apple product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► the world but they make boring stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► sometimes I call their little adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► and cable like they make other boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► stuff that would enable this like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► Apple just made like a decently you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► one to four USB see hub that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► great like because I think we have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► the entire rest of the electronics world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► they have shown us over the last like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► decade they can't do this like they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► cannot do this reliably that the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► consumer electronics industry is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► capable of putting out reliable USB hubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► like we're lucky if we can find one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► model of one sometimes that works for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► for God's sakes Apple just give us a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► hub okay but talk with a TP tipster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► thanks a lot to our three sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► week Squarespace away and hover and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► mean to begin cuz it was accidental oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► it was accidental johnny research Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► cuz it was accidental it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► and you can find the show notes at ADP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► FM and if you're into Twitter you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6656">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► follow them at CAS II WA L is s so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► that's Casey list em a are Co AR m and T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► Marco Arment SI r kc USA Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► so we didn't actually complete follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► yet of course we didn't we have I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► will we ever complete follow-up is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► even a possible thing if John has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► way the only way we complete follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► is by ceasing to record the show anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► follow-up that we did not cover but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► very important and it is WWDC breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► so rich has written in and said I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► doughnuts at WWDC breakfast three out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► five days this year maybe they were gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► when you arrived John that shows their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► insufficient doughnuts cuz if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► gone like I was good coming at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► time as I show up every year and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► not it you know the very first person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► line but I'm not super late either you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► need to have enough doughnuts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► everybody I don't know that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► there's a lot of doughnuts but you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► to do what you got to do enough I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► would also like to thank our listeners I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► have gotten a surprisingly small amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► embarrassing Philadelphia Cream Cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► Incident and I appreciate you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► taking pity on me so thank you yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► is summer break though for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► people I bet a lot of people have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► the episode yet that's possible give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► them time and speaking of getting flack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► we had one at one of us one of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► of us was very bitter a couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► ago and one of the three of us had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► committed the ultimate ATP sin which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► not getting title case correct because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► tell you the audio could be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► garbage in an episode and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► less offensive to one of my co-hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► than the title case being in credit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► is not the case at all I can care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► I like good audio quality correct Idol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► particularly frustrating because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► discussed on the show hey don't forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► to use title case which letters should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► be capital just use the website then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► Marco decided you know what I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► what the website said I have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► opinions about what title case should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► and he changed the title and I see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► my feed with the capital F and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► and it stabs my eyes like daggers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► anyway I am blaming Marco for this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► you look the title of our show and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► boys yes dunno how use title case no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► responsibility i I looked at the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► was capitalized and I thought that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► that's exactly how grammar works you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► right you did it this bar doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► like it's spelled right I'm gonna change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► first of all spelling and stylistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► capitalization are very different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► secondly there there are there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► rules of both grammar and for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► like style manuals for publications many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► rules that like with permission you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► sometimes can break like if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► what you're doing and you'd like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► know you're breaking the rule but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► decide like the rule is wrong here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► can break you've drifted from alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► stylistic breaks and know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► doing - just deciding that the rule is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► wrong and those are two different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► that feel like one is like there's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► competing belief systems that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► understand the nuances of you choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► among them and the other is I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► too much about this that seems wrong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► me it's so so for you know for listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► who are not aware looking at the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► episodes basically the last title the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► last episode was what was for suckers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► something which was ogres scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► scrolling is for suckers and title case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► calm the website that we've used that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► agreed upon is our like title case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► capitalization Authority it capitalizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► in the phrase title case or smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► scrolling is for suckers it capitalizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► that is and not the four because four I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► guess I guess it probably has a ruled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► not to capitalize prepositions but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► always capitalized verbs that's my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► capitalize that but then for you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► and I thought having every single word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► capitalized in that and not the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► capitalized and not the four and I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► making both of them lowercase but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► didn't look right either and I made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► both of them capital and that looked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► least wrong of all the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► so let's see the thing with style guides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► is you have agreed upon set of roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► that you use and you can change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► style guide but you can't say for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► instance I'm gonna ignore the style goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► why I have to have the style guide then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► right so you know it's like consistency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► and and takis calm I do not hold up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► like it's not how I would capitalize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► either like I would do it differently if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► I was Howell you know but this was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► the tiebreaker it's like to make KC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► life easy so he doesn't have to guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► and we don't have to discuss it just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► to this website and the websites gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► do stuff that we don't agree with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► it's just consistent are you not able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► deviate from the thing that you decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► is consistent if you think it's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► but I think it's wrong to I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► lowercase I and lowercase F that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► I would done but I died deferred to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► website and I would have settled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► that all I decided was that capital I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► lowercase F looked wrong and either they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► should both be lowercase or they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► both be capital anyway I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► assign blame that's all yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► I i overrode and I knew you'd be mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► I made a calculated risk like you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► I wouldn't notice which is we just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► no I knew you would notice there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► was no chance you were not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► notice but III it was a calculated risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► based on like I think John is relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► happy with me you know as much as he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► be these days I think I can probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► away with doing this maybe once a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► and this seems like a good time to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► because the way that the title case com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► so I decided to spend the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► year making your peace with typeface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► calm as I have because again it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► the way I would capitalize you you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► to make your peace with it and case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► can spend the rest of the year working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► on his comma usage I wonder if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► buy it and just change it oh yeah where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► where was there a aggressive amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► commas and what did you have to repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► I didn't repair anything I just left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► as is but like all right so what do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► got here I'm aggressive most because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► mean in the show no yeah some so for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► listeners so Casey usually writes all or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► almost all of the show notes yeah John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► ancient comma slow comma Mac Pro oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► it shouldn't be after slow that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► be gone that that's right I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► I'm not gonna argue that it's I stand by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► it still looks right to me sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► this is the new rule for English written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► languages does it look right to Marco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► Casey no this rule number that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► alright no no raise the shownotes anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT0QPh0/7091">TS</a>]