00:00:00 ◼ ► we're not going to get through all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► follow so just a certain point someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► just pull the ripcord and we'll get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► hell out the show now we have crossed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► wonderful threshold that is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► worth pointing out and calling out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/13">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► this show we have on my desk is an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► that is faster in every measure I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► possibly think of then John's Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► you are so mean oh you're so mean if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/25">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► beats a single-core a couple generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► multi-core so now and I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► the GPU is probably lay ahead I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► pretty sure that the screen on it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► connected to Jon's Mac Pro so is if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► have finally crossed the point where not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► even the best iPad but just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► middle-of-the-road iPad is faster in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► every respect I can possibly think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/55">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► measure then John's Mac Pro it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► best iPad isn't it what set is the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► 100 faster higher clock or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► know actually I think it's the same in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► all respects just the higher extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/64">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► resolution yeah well my fans are faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► so beat that I got so many more divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► yeah well just put up at an event in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► your calendar and we'll revisit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► uh-huh we'll see how it's doing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► that's what you're clinging to yeah is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► the shattered glass on its surface long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► after it's been dropped in at least my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► Hardware still works ten years on barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► so I've got to hang on to now and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/94">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► this I want this Mac to feel safe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► loved and to just carry me through so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► can turn funny of it oh now that Nev the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► iPad like medium sized has USB 3 over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► its lightning port I also have faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► magnificent all right let's get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► show on the road we this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► an all follow-up episode and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► the way it's going to have to be well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► all follow-up episode we will do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► after show that has some quasi follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/118">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► John here we go tell us about a PFS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► the AP FS session was on Friday at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/128">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► saved it till the very end so obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► we couldn't talk about it when we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► our live WWC episode because the session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► hadn't been run yet Ron there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► new information in this session in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► particular all the issues about file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► name encoding that we've been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► about on the show we're still talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► about of course so this was the the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► and only bugga filed against ap FS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► last year back when it was introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► with last year think it was last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► whatever was yeah I filed a bug we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► talked about it on the show what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► they going to do about encoding and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► had you know and we've been talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► off and on for a long time so I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► integrity which basically was a no-go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► that you know as we found out last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► so set that aside such a feature doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► have the encoding issue seem like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► deal and it turns out it is a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► so some caveats here the session about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► it was kind of vague and I tried to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► to the Apple folks afterwards and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► get to talk to a few of them including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► one of the guys who implemented the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► stuff I'm going to talk about now but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► didn't have that much time to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► him because they went down to the labs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► and labs is your head like a big line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► and everything and it seemed like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► official and I didn't want to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► that line and like hog the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► engineers from people who are developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► apps so I only got a brief time to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► to them sort of in the hallways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► transit so forgive me if I got some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► this wrong if anyone wants to write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and clarify they can let me know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► here's what I've got so in hi Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► there's something that they're calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► native normalization and that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► be an AP FS I remember a B vest came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► iOS and what ten point three point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► something or other a couple weeks or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► month ago and we talked about it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► show and the question we had was what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► going to be like when ApS comes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► Mac is it going to be the same deal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/234">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► and so forth well one thing right off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► the bat is different AP FS on High [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► Sierra has native normalization what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► that means is file names are stored as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► provided by the program in the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► system so whatever whatever garbage you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► give it it says I'm writing that as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► but directory lookups are done through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► hashes of normalized versions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► file name so if you put in some file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► name that's you know I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► just any valid sequence of you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► whatever's and you do a look-up on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► with a different but equivalent sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► and it's the whole thing with like cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► with a needle exclamation up with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► accent on it you can do that with accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► as a single character as to combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► concerned that's the same file name so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► what native normalization will do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► when it stores the hashes for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► directory it will not hash the file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► that you gave it the finally that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► actually in the file system instead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► will normalize that file name and store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► that hash and then when you try to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► it up it'll take whatever you gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/295">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► normalize that hash it and compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► the other hash so it's kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► that you've got in the file system a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► file name and each file name has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► corresponding hash that is not a hash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► normalized version that file name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► they're using NFD normalization put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► link in the show notes to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► different normalization forms in Unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► the one they're using according to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► of the engineers to talk to is NF D and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► normalization so that will make it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► that on the Mac when you when a program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► tries to look up a file name no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► how sloppy the program is with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► encoding it will find it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► going to be looking it up by a hash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► the normalized version of that not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► what you gave it so it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► take what you gave it and compare it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/336">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► the actual file name because then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► might not get it and here's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► interesting part about this so iOS still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► has still doesn't do this yet what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► they're going to add something they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► run time normalization in iOS 10 3 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► iOS 11 which will not change what's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► the file system but will do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► that is vague and I didn't understand at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► the file system level to make it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► can find your files and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► kicker this this is right from the the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► BFS presentation slide future update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► will convert all devices to the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► native normalization so what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► is some point in the future they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► going to update all iOS devices file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► systems again and they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► convert them from one file system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► another they're going to basically add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► all the hashes of the normalized forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► of all the file names I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► that is more dangerous or less dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► than the other thing it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► it could be more dangerous but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/390">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► assuming they're doing in an additive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► way but this is what I was getting I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► hemming and hawing over this encoding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► stuff it's going to cause them to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► the file system on every single iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► device at some point in the future like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► they didn't get it over with there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/403">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► another one looming whereas the Mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► going to do this one time conversion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► it will have the system from the get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► going it seems to me that Apple's file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► system engineers were surprised at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► many iOS programs take strings directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► from the UI and feed them to file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► misrepresentation or any other sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► api's that turn the string into the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► that the file system understands it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► as though someone typed something in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► application got that string however was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► typed however was you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► normalized you composed or whatever I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► just going to pass it straight through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► to the file system and that that in turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► ends up having people not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► open up their files usually in non ASCII [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► language is obviously because ASCII is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► very simple it maps one to one to utf-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/450">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► devices are going to get updated again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► yay there's actually uh something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► fascinating about that and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► jumping ahead in the show notes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► apologize to mr. John siracusa during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► the talk show I think was federighi had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► mentioned that whatever version of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► it doesn't really matter what version it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► was that the really flipped the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► on a PFS and that migrated everyone to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► PFS apparently for like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► versions prior during the upgrade they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► would do and jump in John when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► ready they would do kind of like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► trial run of the AP FS migration try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► figure out did this work what went right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► what went what went wrong phone home the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► results and then revert it all back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► hfs+ is that a fair summary yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► that's the only way I think people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► surprised by this but if you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/510">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► done a sort of a production rollout on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► large-scale it's the only way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► ever do something like this you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► everyone's devices can't be the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► time it runs right you have to have run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/520">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► unbeknownst to them is certainly a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► way to do it one possible way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/527">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► is to roll it out to a small subset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► your users use them as the guinea pigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► sure how big like that were everybody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► get any things breather way you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► have to you never you know programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► actually works until you you know run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► for real and server-side programmers no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► production is never like exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► staging is never exactly like dev and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► on and so forth you think it is you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► to make them as much the same as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► possibly can but inevitably you roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► something out to production and surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► it behaves a little bit differently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► strange ways that you never could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► predicted in when you have millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► millions of users that is sure to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► case so yeah they you know since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► conversion is non-destructive until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► very last step as described in past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► conversion just didn't do the last step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and then ran a full integrity check to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► say if I was to do this last step would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► this thing be hosed or would it be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► and then obviously we report the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► back to themselves and they could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/576">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► how it goes and they could have kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► doing that process until you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► it could be that you know iOS level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► would have been the conversion for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► but I guess they did it enough times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► got enough results to say it's safe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► do it in 10 3 whatever that they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► know conversion was so that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► good engineering there and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► like I said Ford's the design of a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► the type of file system that is allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► them to do both the trial runs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► conversion in a fairly safe way I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► mean again like you said it does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► sense but I just found that fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► that that was the path they chose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► just very clever stuff i it's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► super cool it was really cool there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► a couple of other interesting tidbits we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► got from the talk show which will I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► keeping with the a PFS train tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► about the compression versus HFS+ yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► this was a question I had a couple shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► back hey hfs+ has compression and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► of our West files are compressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► other files can be compressed both by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► user programs and by the OS and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► like that that's totally transparent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► you when you read the file off of a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► system hfs+ if it's compressed just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► decompress is it on the fly you'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► see it it never looks any different they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► added that feature many years ago right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► non-destructively convert an HFS+ volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► to a PFS while not moving any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/655">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► data because if you have a compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► file and you leave it compressed and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► convert to a PF s and a PF s doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► understand that compression when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► read that file will be garbage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► decompress it so it'll just read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► compressed bytes which is not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► you're going to expect and in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► tradition of Gruber forgetting to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► Phil and Craig questions I forgot to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► they're doing this so if anybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► tell me and it'll be follow-up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► future show I just totally forgot to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► I should have like written it on my palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► say hey by the way when I've got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► heavy an impression again the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► solution is obviously the day PFS just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► understands that compression handles it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► that could be the case you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► simple solution but I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► interesting alright so next time next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► WTC you'll have to remember iOS 11 dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► for signal strength so I am only vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► familiar with what's going on here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► apparently in some contexts either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► screenshots or perhaps the OS itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► showing circles for signal strength for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► your cellular carrier but in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► context it's vertical bars is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► I don't know what that who is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► iOS 11 I have it on my iPad that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► faster than John's Mac Pro and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► tell you that it is definitely using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► bars all the time yeah I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► were confused by that because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► Notification Center slides were near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► when you first saw the bar isn't it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► and we all know Notification Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► Notification Center those were all iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► 10 screenshots that's why I was showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► Notification Center it was like a lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► of big things and they all had dots in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► them and the next slide was like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► what you can do in iOS 11 and those had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► bars someone told me they thought there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► was a screenshot in the keynote that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► supposed to be iOS 11 that also had dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► but I don't recall seeing either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► Marko's got the actual beta and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► bars again like it whatever you see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► in betas and stuff is never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► final but I can tell you that in beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► one on my iPad it is bars all bars all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► the time and this is a welcome change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► because dots always sucked I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► like dots but the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► everyone's conspiracy theories go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► this is that bars take up less with in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► important why do you need them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► smaller all of the weird rumors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► the iPhone 8 or whatever they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► having something in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► top of your screen that doesn't leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► enough room for the five dots to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► know lay themselves out that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► could be part of the case of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► like the cameras and stuff and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► be like a little mono brow type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/813">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► straight across but actually this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► little dip in the middle it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► that the cameras are behind the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► at that point I don't quite understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► why you'd have to get rid of the bar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► that anyway there are a lot of theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► about why it has to be thinner the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► that bothers me about the bars is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► one of the reasons that well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► know if one reason Apple got rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► but it was one of the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► discussed when they did get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► was that visually speaking like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► visual weight of one two three four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► five bars is not even so if you have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► bars it doesn't look like half the lit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► up pixels of four bars because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► a stair-step thing and you know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► it looks like your signal is weaker than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► it is then you do with dots if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► five evenly sized dots then sort of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► you know two dots is exactly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► almost exactly half the lit up pixels as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► four dots you know and so it seems more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► fair and you don't like to see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► phone with these tiny little one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► bars even though two bars could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► perfectly good you feel a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► better when you see two out of five dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► at least that's my impression anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► remember when they fixed antenna gate by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► making the bars taller yeah or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► didn't they just like change the scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► because like what is three bars really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► that you know this isn't yeah they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► some fussing that it'll actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► both like they I think they changed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► think they changed some of you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► know decibel cutoff points of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/897">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► bars are presented and also they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► made the shorter like the leftmost bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► a little bit taller so that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► kind of like a like almost like a curved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► ramp up from the left instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► straight ramp up it may call the bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► the same height so it's like a block or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► something well that's what dots are yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► but they're all spread out no but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► whole things about like trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► you know make room for you know a cutout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► in the 2017 new iPhone I don't I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/921">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► sure I buy that be like the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► of having these like these protruding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/928">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► like camera and speaker things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► above to the left on the right of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► still don't get that at all because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► just I mean I think we've learned by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► that the rumor cycle with this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► stuff gets about a third of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► predict correct like it's it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► great ratio and I think this is just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► of those things like this this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► like something an Android maker would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► not something Apple to do because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► think about how that screen space would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/955">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► actually be used first of all there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► lot of stuff that goes in the status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► still even in iOS 11 there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► stuff that goes in the status bar one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► the big things is where the clock go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► clock is right right there in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and there's not really room on the sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► to put it there if you unless you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► rid of something else that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► likes or that you need so it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► I just don't I don't see how the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► bar morphs to have a big cut out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► middle of it and still be good anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► and then I also don't see why you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► have the screen extend with this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► rectangle sticking into the middle of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► because what are you going to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► that space like are you going to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► parts of a photo that extend into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► into that space then you then you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► the big black cutout like it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► don't see any way in which that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► good and actually works in practice let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► us have eyebrows rendered there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► like rendered hair push your eyebrows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► other than someone that looks just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► dots which is perfectly valid is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► having more room in the status bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► always a good thing right I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► gives you more options sometimes I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► as products kind of crowded up there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► if you're taking up less room with dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► then you get a little more breathing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► room and it looks nicer if they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► say take that weird back arrow thingy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► that is always squished up in the is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► that even in the status bar anyone know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► yeah it does yeah like lay that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► differently now they have extra room who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► knows anyway it could just be that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► like dots we'll find out you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► couple months indeed all right another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► thing that has happened in iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► apparently the third-party service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► integration that came in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► versions ago and remember exactly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► so this is integration at the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► level with Twitter Facebook Flickr Vimeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► it's for any of those services at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► system level and then when an app wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► to leverage those services you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► can kind of ask the system for for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► accounts blah blah blah those have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► been removed and according to the iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► beta release notes quote social accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► have been removed from settings in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► 11 third-party apps no longer have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► access to those signed in accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► that's about adding one more thing to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► to-do list this summer because I use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► Twitter one and now I have to stop using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► it and write my own stupid Twitter login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► and I'm not happy about that sorry so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► Darren Cohen says that Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► Twitter get it rid of the API is that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► that stuff and that's why Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► also had to pull that support out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► windows I'm not sure if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► Facebook and Twitter got rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► what about Flickr and Vimeo like no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► is even developing they'll ask you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► developing do you know anyway um it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► seems more like it seems more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► policy decision this is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► about the bay release notes by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► read them a couple times like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► a known issue section and that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► sometimes they just talk about changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► and sometimes they phrase it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► realize oh in this build such and such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► feature is like this but we don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► it to be that way it's just way it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► this bill sometimes some things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► that under or under a known issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► header sometimes they're just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► changes section and the reason I quoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► this is because I think this sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► expresses pretty clearly that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► not just something that's missing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► beta 1 but that marker really does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► to do work and they're just not leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► them in there though they're officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► deprecated in the API they're gone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► that it's not yeah it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► temporary beta 1 thing this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► they're gone so it does simplify things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► because any time Apple has one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► things where it's like certain blessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► third parties are given deeper hooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► into the operating system than other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► ones it's kind of convenient but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► Apple has to eternally maintain an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► awareness of the of the social service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► zeitgeist they're like what's popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► now because they can't they can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► keep the same set of things and support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► them forever because three or four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► later then there's something new and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► some old one needs to go away but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► take the old one and go away then people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► like Marco are sad because they use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► but the the most a polite solution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► you know what you don't get any just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► yourself like because then you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► have to worry I would have to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► with this anymore if they change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► api's they won't break our stop we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► developer can handle it for themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► obviously the best solution would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► some way for some sort of extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► mechanism for the third-party services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► themselves who are highly motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► have this type of integration to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► such an integration for iOS but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► kind of long a lot and some third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► keyboards and that something doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► seem like Apple would do but they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► do it someday well and also like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► existing share extension framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► really does most of what you need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► that and and puts the power of creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► those things and maintain them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► designing them into the hands of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► makers who run those services and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► their apps so it like you know it rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► than having Apple design the share to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► Twitter sheet for instance that is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► into the system and have the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► maintain a separate Twitter login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► account that is separately set and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► separately managed now that's all on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► Twitter or whatever happens so now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► Twitter can just with their app have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► your own login in their application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► Twitter can design their own share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► extension and have it do whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► want it to do and look however they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► to look and so it and then you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► isn't now just Twitter but now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► something new comes along like if Manson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► wants to have a share tension from micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► blog that will now get equal billing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► a share extension as things like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► and that's great and again like like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► were saying like this the the system of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► having Apple maintained this fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► short list of like services that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► that will have first-class integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► that's not scalable and I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► seen over time like you know so many new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► networks have come up since then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► there was never a shared a snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► snapchat is bigger than some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► things that are noticed but it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► didn't get to it the share to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► that Apple made that that was there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► you know the last few iOS versions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► share to Twitter and iOS 10 broke on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► all the time like it would I would post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► a tweet with it and it would just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► post and presumably like it was hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► some weird API limit and was or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► wasn't counting characters correctly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► something and there was no interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► to report an error to me or to report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► that it failed or to retry alright and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► looks like it's like the system Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► had before just did not scale and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► it's nice to have now that we have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► system of its share extensions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► we've actually had for like 3 iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► version though now Apple can step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► and say alright you know what we tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► doing this ourselves it was ok but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► this is up to you guys and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► to step back from it and you can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► kind of tell like the the data sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► relationship between Apple and Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► and Facebook you can always tell it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► little bit tense you know there's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► really very much at odds with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► business models and what they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► with the user and who owns the user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► who owns the users data and what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► integration they want and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► else and so to have Apple just fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► step back from that and you just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► everyone else like look you're now cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► off from any kind of privilege you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► do these things but so can everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► and everything that's part of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► is off limits to you that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► better for everybody really yeah reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► me of when Apple first added Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► integration to what was then OS 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► one of our views remember hearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► how they sort of bent over backwards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► try to integrate Facebook with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► Facebook all of your contact info but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► having them sync and it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► tense is definitely the right word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► the only bit about not having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► things as part of system is I guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► probably good for the services but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► some users won't like it you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► have the app for these things installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► now even if you're like oh I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► going to use Flickr on my phone I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► want to be able to post to it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► phone well you gotta have the flow graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► installed because the extensions come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► from the app so whatever just put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► a folder somewhere and you will notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► it we were sponsored this week by mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1434">TS</a>]
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00:24:01 ◼ ► trial at mail route net slash ATP you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► know you should handle your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► security and delivery people who do only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► that and that is mail around now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► applies to big companies or individuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► in it pretty much anybody who hosts an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► email account on their own domain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► whether you use Google Apps for business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► or whatever they call that this year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► something like fast mail or whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► yourself or for your business if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► on your own mail servers you direct the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► internet to send their mail to mail rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► through MX records in your DNS for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► domain and then mail route delivers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► your servers only the clean mail they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► all the spam filtering virus filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► all that for you so you get only clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► mail and in my opinion I'm using it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► for over a year at least and it is Bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► None the best spam filter I have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► seen and it's full of great features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► whether you're a business or individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► there's the adeno date this is made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► enterprise so they have all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► wonderful enterprise features that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► personally don't understand they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► whole API to manage it including you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► know all sorts of you know crazy admin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► tools there's a nice interface if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► want to use that instead of the API it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► all designed to make your life better as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► either an end user of email or as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► email administrator for a business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► it is so so good I cannot tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► enough how good mail right is I hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► ever get spam anymore it's glorious it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► it's really weird but I do get it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► noteworthy when I do get it it is so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► great I cannot recommend mail route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► enough and so again whether you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► individual like me putting it in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► of an IMAP host or whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► business you need mail route to filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► out all the spam and viruses before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► get to your servers you can save server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► load you're more secure that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► it's way better at filtering out spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► than anything else I've ever seen yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► Gmail people even Gmail it is so so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► at filtering out spam check out mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► route today and if you use our link mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1556">TS</a>]
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00:26:01 ◼ ► trial 30 days and you get 10% off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► the lifetime of your account so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► you get 10% off that's pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► check it out today mail route net slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► ATP thank you very much - mail route for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► sponsoring our show moving on in iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► according to Fraser Spears on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► screen there are like four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► things you can do so a short tap means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► open whatever app icon you just tapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► apparently opens a popover menu a medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► hold what is a medium tap then anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► as I one thing it took me a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► time to figure out how to move multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► apps at once on springboard what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► you can move an app around just with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► regular drag-and-drop but you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► multiple apps with that to do multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► apps you have to put it into wiggle X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► mode we're like the old way where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► long press on it and eventually it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► into wiggle X mode then you can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► multi tap thing like it took my sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► this obviously it took me so long to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► figure out some of this stuff like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► there there are now like more modes than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► than ever before and it's very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► but there are so many modes and gestures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► and alternate taps and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► going to be a while before even power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► users figure out what what all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► stuff is so to come back to Fraser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► Spears source power user yes our short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► tap is open the app the medium tap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► the popover menu medium hold is begin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► drag long hold is enter rearrange mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► all of those different things based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► you putting your meaty finger against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► the screen on top of an icon for various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► amounts of time with various medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► movement I think for such is separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► because force touches brings up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► whatever the forced touch menu that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► application implements this reminds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► of course of the home button which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► started out as a button you press to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► back to springboard and ended up having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► a Morse code set of things that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► tap on to do all sorts of weird stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► mean at the point where there we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► about it before the accessibility thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► where it slides down the screen wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► that's called that was like two taps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► don't actually press the button that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► what we level they were getting at were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► like they'd used up the one to tap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► hold do this to that it's like okay now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► now this is a tap but don't press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► button as the button doesn't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► anymore but like don't press it enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► that it would move if it did move it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► continuing title with iOS 11 a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► feature of iOS 11 which was mentioned I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► thought somewhere maybe during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► keynote but I might be wrong about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► but I saw this somewhere last week you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► can now share your Wi-Fi passwords so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► this there's an article 95 Mac will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► the show notes if a friend comes over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► with an iPhone running iOS 11 you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► into your Wi-Fi in one tap and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► looks very similar to kind of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► air pods charge status when you flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► open the air pod case I don't obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► think that's how its activated but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► have a screen shot in here on the 95 Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► article and what a cool idea I dig it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► my question is do they get to see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► password like is this just a convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► feature of not having to read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► off to somebody and they type it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► get capital that is wrong or is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► security feature where you can let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► someone log on to your thing but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► can't see your password I'm inclined to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► think it's just a convenience feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► because once the password is on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► phone surely they can get it off if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► wanted it it wasn't presumably I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► because they have to know like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► to have the password in their device a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► possession for it to be on the Wi-Fi so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► I'm guessing like it probably isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► shown to them it's probably just putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► keychain but there are ways to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► things in keychain like if you sync if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► it's synced with iCloud keychain and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► syncs to a Mac then you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► keychain access and you can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► password right there so what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► secure Enclave possibly get all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► right so yeah I'm guessing that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► they end up having a way to get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► password if they want to and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► this is more for quick convenience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► like casual security than it is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► real security because real security is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► go in them on your network then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► on your network that's it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► everyone's Wi-Fi passwords are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► kids names anyway so come on yeah I no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► one ever changes their Wi-Fi passwords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► because now they have like sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► different things on it and people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► years and their Wi-Fi passwords and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► like 1999 oh yeah mine's 2008 if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► yeah Wi-Fi really needs like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► token system like like oh where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► just like issue devices tokens then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► you can change the password for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► devices really so before everyone writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► in I know there are flavors of Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► security that allow that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► but it isn't generally speaking it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► not the sort of thing you will ever find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► somebody's house is that like they'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► there is the possible yeah yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► there I've seen installations in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► home that will do this sort of thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► understand that's a thing it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► really matter the details like a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► of mine had some set up with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Raspberry Pi or some such where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► would push a little button on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► device it would actually like print out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► a temporary Wi-Fi password for you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► because this is the sort of thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► enterprise hardware in his house and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► was actually very cool but but yeah for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► any normal person you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► right Marco like this would be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► cool if it was usable and I consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► myself a normal person in this context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► because I'm not like a super network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► administrator so yeah so for me to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► issue a temporary password would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► pretty neat but that's not the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► thing you find in normal like wpa2 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► whatever it is households all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► moving on a friend of the show Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► Smith he pointed out that drag-and-drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► upload of files to Mobile Safari works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► now and I actually saw I don't think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► going to have it handy and I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► be able to dig it up but I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► trendy Caldwell had a tweet about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► you can take several files from say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► the files app for example and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► drag them into mobile safari much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► you would do in regular desktop safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► and it will actually upload all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► it's another thing Marko's ipad can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► that my Mac can also do finally file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► uploads the final frontier for iOS web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► violence my word I put this in here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► because not to get like dragon drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► forks ever but because until I read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► it wouldn't have even occurred to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► try that on iOS because I've been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► conditioned but from so many years yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► you're gonna do like a file upload you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► got to go to a Mac for that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► even though we all know drag and drop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► there I wouldn't like you have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► your mindset now with these drag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► drop features to think to try something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► instead of just like walling it off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► your mind is like oh you can only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► that in the desktop not true anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► with iOS 11 this is I think going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► like one of the I mean this is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► the case like with new platforms but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► like this is one of the reasons why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► think young people have a way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► chance of working on these platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► than we do because like it is so easy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► someone who's been who's been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► since the early days of iOS like us you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► know it's so easy to forget all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► things that you can do that you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► not be able to do and we just don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► think to try those things because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► subconsciously we just know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► that's nothing you can do here and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► you need somebody younger than you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► fatigued she to come around and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► no look you can do all this crap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► guys are done and he's not that mean of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► course he's super nice but you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► heeey yeah like you need somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► like more fresh to the platform or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► open-minded than us old farts to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► actually like push the boundaries of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► using the thing and actually use up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► all these new features that we might see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► in a keynote for five seconds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► immediately forget about the flip side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► of that by the way is whenever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► youngsters see me and old fart use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► Mac they never know all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► I'm dragging around and like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► that you you know proxy icons and title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► bars like totally undiscoverable stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► if you haven't been using the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► forever or like which applications you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► have to hold long and then start to drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► or start drag immediately versus holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► to drag large pieces of text to copy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► inside terminal without blowing away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► your buffer or you know before you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► get into multiple clipboards and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► those stuff there's lots of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► old platforms can do the young people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► don't learn as well because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► go through all the you know they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► start out with a simple system and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► new features get added they just use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► system they use enough of the system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► get their job done and it didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► this history of learning all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► obscure features so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► secrets of lying and Mac OS as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► especially if you're an old next user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► this stuff from next still lurking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► there and there's stuff from the old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► still working on there so we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► something to teach the youth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► before we die Wow on our slow Mac Pro's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► man you are really Jill in this homely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► Savage well I mean to be fair to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► to John's very slow old Mac Pro it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► really impress is kind of an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► for the Mac Pro that first of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► he's still using it almost ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► later and it's mostly fine a second of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► all its argument for upgrade ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► because upgrades like an SSD and a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► GPU have made this possible and third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► all it really shows quite the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► when you buy a Mac Pro like the mat like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► the iOS hardware surpassed five-year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► Macs you know long ago but it took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► took until now for it to surpass this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► performance is when you have eight cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► it takes a long time for things to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► up to that and like one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► why I love the Mac Pro so much is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► get so much Headroom like you literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► the core performance is always limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► by whatever the technology of the era is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► for single core design but they cram so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► many cores in there that for parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► workloads which is what a lot of pros do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► you can basically buy yourself 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► from now levels of performance today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► so the Mac Pro like it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► useful to a lot of types of people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► way longer than any other computer is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► that I it's it that just shows like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► workstations is still valuable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► you're literally buying yourself like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► place 10 years from now performance just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► wait for the iMac Pro with its 18 cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► that'll give you another good head start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► reference to it earlier but there were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► couple of things that were I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► whole show was interesting but a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► of interesting tidbits that came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► the talk show live from last week so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► this was as per tradition it was John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► Gruber and then as of the last couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► years it's been Phil Schiller and Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► federighi and as usual was a great show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► I like that John doesn't just throw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► the softball questions and I can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► of Tom my head of what the hard balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► were but he always asked at least a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► hard balls which I liked and at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► point at the end chiller actually said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► to him hey man in so many words you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► hey man you always say a couple weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► later man I wish I asked Schiller this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► so what do you got and I think it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► Gruber by surprise which was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► funny and and I forget exactly what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► came up with but in summary it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► listened to it and/or watched it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► there's a video available you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► really should and John and I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► pleasure of being seated front row and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► watching it Marco had the pleasure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► sitting in a 90-degree a sound booth in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► watching slash listening to it but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► there were some interesting things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► came from it one of them was the trial a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► PFS migrations we mentioned earlier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► the other thing that all of us I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► picked up on were also amazed by was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► photo data that is synced in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► devices which was mentioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► keynote or maybe not the keynote with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► the State of the Union if not that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► what we thought it was so the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► I understood what was said in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► keynoter State of the Union was that hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► all of the metadata that we generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► during the photo crawl process on any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► our devices all of that is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► synced v iCloud to all your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► devices we were all very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► excited about this turns out that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► is not the case and what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► happening is only the stuff that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► Apple has complete certainty in and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► slightly paraphrasing Craig here only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► certainty in is what's inked which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► turn means only the stuff that a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► has actively said yes or no to so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► case of photos what that means is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► there is a photo that has the three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► us in it and I as a user say that one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► Marco and that one is John that photo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► the information about it that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► provided will be synced to B iCloud to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► the other devices but anything else any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► of the generated like metadata and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► that that isn't synced at all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► wouldn't necessarily it's a good say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► it's a good thing either and I presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► that this is because of privacy concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► but it was I feel like it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► bit of a bait-and-switch or maybe I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► misunderstood what was said Nikki no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► compared to earlier that week when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► had heard oh yeah we're syncing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► between devices it's great yeah I get I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► understand why they're doing it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► but I think it's the wrong choice so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► like you know basically you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► there are there were a few problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► the way it was before you know problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► number one was that your if you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► took the time to enter things like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► faces data that wasn't syncing multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► devices so it kind of it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► frustrating it's it's like a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► data loss like you input that on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► device but then like you go to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► other device and it's not there or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► different so that's no good so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► the part they're sinking problem number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► two is that every time you do an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► restore or get a new phone or replace a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► phone from service or a new Mac or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► of any any new devices with with photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► on them your device would basically run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► really hot and have terrible battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► life if it if it misbehaved and CPU to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► be maxed out for hours or days after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► he went through your entire photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► library and tried to recognize objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► in the photos so you could search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► them that one they didn't fix that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► is still being done on all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► devices individually and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► something that they're kind of guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► on each device they're like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► using you know machine learning to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► to figure these things out and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► fine but it seems like the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► they don't want to sync that is so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► a newer device that maybe has a newer OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► that can be smarter about what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► recognizes you can get smarter results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► on that and that way you don't have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► bad results synced forever from old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► photos but that creates the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► not only of having your devices be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► really hot for the first couple days you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► have them and your CPU core if you maxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► out for a long time but that also makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► so that you get different search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► on different devices for like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► query and that's not really great either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► so I'm not really sure what what led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► them to make this decision there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► probably more information here that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► don't have I'm sure there were good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► reasons but from where I sit from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► from the subset of the real information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► that I have I still think it's the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► choice yeah it's not just an object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► recognition to the faces thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► thing that bothers me the most because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► think most people don't spend that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► time confirming faces because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► annoying to do you confirm some or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► whatever the width system is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► work especially on a single you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► device scenario is you confirm bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► pages to say yes no no yes maybe make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► some Corrections and based on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► confirmations the system then guesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► all the other pictures that have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► person's face in them and that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► feature I've always wanted this facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► recognition feature to replace my manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► tagging system or if I want to find all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► pictures of my wife I don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► to manually tag every single picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► that she's in I just want to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► system this is her this is our this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► our this er I'll do that a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► like I am sure I've spent way more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► Confirmation thing then most people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► right and then based on that data set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► find all the other ones and the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► my interface to this is I want you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► somewhere in the sidebar like a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► folder or whatever to say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► pictures of my wife right and as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► I'm concerned the set of pictures of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► wife is not a thing like finding like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► telephone or plastic or like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► garbage can in a picture that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► versions and different machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► AI algorithms can you know do better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► future things it should be the same like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► I want it to be at the same as if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► manually tagged it right and and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► the same experience on every device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► right and if it is better in some future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► device because it's like well we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► technically guessing and this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► able to guess better if it is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► another device they just need to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► version that stuff or or you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► so that when as soon as they get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► better version sync the better version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► ever at bottom line if I have that Smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► Folder wherever this is pictures of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► different counts on them and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► be pretty different because depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► how much time you spent adding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► people's faces or how many other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► you have look similar or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► don't want it to to Regas at different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► times and see like oh why do I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► different number of pictures of my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► nice two devices you don't it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► that one has a different notion of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► many pictures of your wife there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► because there even though they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► working from the same small data set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► manual selected pictures is too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► variability blah blah I know it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► than it was but I still think this room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► to grow it's always funny to me that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► that Craig seems not like obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► uncomfortable but not totally in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► with being on stage and I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► talked about this last year too until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► a technical thing comes up and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► everything changes and he's like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► awesome engineer guy it to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► that like his depth of knowledge in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► things that that are reasonably I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► know esoteric is the right word but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► he'll happily go deep on damn near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► anything on the drop of a hat and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► don't know how the man can keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► stunning to me because especially my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► stereotypical view of managers is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► they're so far outside of the weeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► there their gills they're sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► their fancy Thrones looking down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► their kingdom of minions and saying Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► minions take care of things not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► any idea what the weeds are and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► in the weeds etc but but he can go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► the way down like on anything it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► stunning and I mana I love listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► him talk that guy's well and Phil is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► great as well don't get me wrong but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► man Craig is a a nerds nerd I dig it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► agreed I didn't listen to the recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► you know because I saw a live but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► live thing there was one heckler who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► shouted out to her one clan Joe when is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► Siri going to get better I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► they cut that out of the final recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► but that did happen no it's it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► but they you know they didn't address it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► because it was like they were basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► like John was like in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► asking a question so they just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► moving like cuz it was it was not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► at a at a pull at a point where it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► makes sense to address it yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► there's two ways you can go on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► is that from a hosting perspective it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► a good idea not to encourage hecklers by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► ignoring the heckler is the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► saying don't heckle but in my show it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► my show I'm going to pretend you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► exist on the other hand when is Siri get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► better so okay that that is a line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► questioning that could have been brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► whatever and I think well but but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► like when you have limited time on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► with Apple executives to ask questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► there you have to have some degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► just predicting like you know what's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► good question here like what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► a good use of time and a question we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► just going to give like a pretty canned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► PR like answer is not a good use of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► because like what do you like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► what like do you honestly think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► Phil Schiller is going to be on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► and be like yeah you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► right Syria isn't very good we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► working on it like no like of course not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► like it's going to be an answer of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► know even if you ask that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► directly to them it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► relatively you know information less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► answer of like well it's it's here's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► the ways it's already world-leading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► it's always getting better you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► it's it's a PR question that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► get a PR answer it's like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► stupid analyst questions on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► earnings calls when you go make a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► it's like you know that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► that's not it's a useful question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► because you know they're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► going to give you an answer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► want so you might as well not even waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► time on it and ask a better question so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► I think you can ask this question in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► way they will get a non PR vague answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► because Apple itself open the door to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► this line of questioning with their home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► pod announcement I said this in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► show too but to reiterate and further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► emphasize Apple's pitch for home pod was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► look at these two competitors Sonos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► the Amazon echo so know it sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► but it's dumb Amazon echo sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► crap but is smart home pod sounds great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► and is smart typical great Apple sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► pitch for the thing right but the own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► that so here's Apple opening the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► but the only thing Apple demonstrated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► in any way described both in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► live room where the press could hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► and in the slides they talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► well we know how home pod sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► because a whole bunch of people heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► and they said hey this thing sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► it sounds you know as good or better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► than the Sonos which was the thing app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► held up a sounding good but the pitch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► home pod is unlike those two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► devices this one sounds good and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► smart right Apple itself is saying we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► making a device that combines the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► of these two things so the is smart part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► is your entree to say okay Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► have presented us with home pod telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► us it is going to be as smart as echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► and sound as good as Sonos do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► Siri is currently a smart as echo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► will it be getting better for home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► because it's not you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► gotcha question like they haven't is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► product isn't done yet like they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► list a bunch of stuff that it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► do on the slide here's all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► that home pod is going to do that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► smart right so they put them up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► but I think it's open question at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► opportunity to brag about the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► they just announced they should say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► good answer is this is going to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► home PI is going to be great it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► to be just as smart as Amazon echo it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► going to do all these things so and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► forth that's the answer to when is Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► going to get better it's going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► okay when home pod comes out Siri will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► be much better than it is now and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► can explain all the reasons why or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► progress they've made on Syria I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► like it is an opening for Apple to bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► about the product they just announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► but in in the stuff that they put out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► the keynote and in every part of WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► the only thing they demonstrated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► pressed on at all was that it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► good and the smarts they're like it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► be smart stresses we'll see which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► fine like but now that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► is your kind of work if this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► just a Sonos you know if it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► Sonos with like existing Siri built-in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► mean I guess it's still smarter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► Sonos you know but is it as smart as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► that go you know we'll see so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► this is this is the competitive question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► for the home pod Apple's pitch is clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► we have to see if they can deliver yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► that's the thing like they really they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► showed us the home pod and they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► us why we should care about it and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► it's cool but they didn't they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► convince us like they didn't really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► all they said was basically like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► sounds great trust us and that's cool I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► mean the press hard press harder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► they said it does sound good yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► that's great but but again but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► what you're saying is like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► actually put it above where show nose is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► now all we have is a vague promise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► it has Siri and it is smart but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► didn't actually show that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► you're right I think it's mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► it's pretty clear that it's pretty far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► from being done not done yet so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► they're hiding it if they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► demoed it they would have yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► honestly the the fact that it appears to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► be in such an early state now if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► couldn't even demo a single Siri command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► but they say it's going to be shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3018">TS</a>]
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00:52:02 ◼ ► WBC keynote and TV OS one of you picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► up on and I it was not me a quote you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► be hearing a lot more about TV OS later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► this year and apparently it's a just shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► interesting well first of all isn't hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► to hear less about TV OS yeah it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► something about TV OS they're like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► dark mode can turn on automatically at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► that's something so it's nonzero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► we're gonna be hearing a lot more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► it later yeah I mean I guess that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► means is gonna be like hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► stuff like I'm sure that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► would be nice to see 4k it would nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► see a redesign remote they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► gonna tell or redesign remote oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► wanted to keep the current one I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► like I wasn't even daring to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► I was just picturing the puck I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► oh it'll finally be a puck that supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► 4k and HEV C and they'll be 4k content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► on the iTunes Store I didn't dare to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► even dream that they would fix that damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► remote but I suppose they could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► suspect the Apple TV remote is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► be looked upon in retrospect the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► way the hockey puck Mouse is as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► worst design offence of the decade by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► Apple I really don't think it's that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► I will not say it's flawless by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► stretch but it doesn't problem II near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► as much as it bothers pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► so I will never do the dented version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the puck they they tried to like fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► they're like Oh puck the fuck is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► problem so they put a little dent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► like the button so you could feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► which side of is the top they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► just put a dent and I guess you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► it on a trackpad so I'd put a dent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► the bottom side or something's you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► feel for I mean yeah it's it's not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► I'm not trying to say that it's grated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► flawless or anything like that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► just I really don't think it's that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► it works okay for me okay it is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► look better than the Apple TV remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► your computer was like turning itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► off randomly and you're like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► fine like this you might you might need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► to raise your expectations a bit of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► technology should be especially for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► evil you know like right this says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► whatever would be happy oh the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► still use the Apple TV every day it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► our primary TV device like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► things we ever use our TV for are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► Apple TV and the switch and and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► I use it all the time because why I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► critical of it like one thing I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► love to see in TV OS and this is thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► like they say like you know be hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► more about TV iOS later this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► actually all I want is hardware stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► like hardware changes I basically want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► new remote 4k would be nice I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► a 4k TV yet but it's probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► happen with the next couple years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► that would be nice and TV OS and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► it's the hardware maybe it's a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► I don't know it's just really slow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► don't know why this is current hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► that isn't that old it's so slow I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► the remote makes it feel slow it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► because it's a clumsy if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► so by the way we always complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► re-emphasize this again Apple TV has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► ability to learn remotes and if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3300">TS</a>]
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00:55:04 ◼ ► have extra TiVo remotes hanging around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► you can use an old TiVo remote with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► Apple TV and makes it way better but um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► it doesn't have touchpad obviously but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► it has a five-way pad and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► clumsily swiping on that touchpad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► move the focus feel slower than tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► tapping on a digital you know right left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► up down Center d-pad so I attribute some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► of the slowest in that there's more with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► like hey I hit the little home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► how long does it take for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► out of this app and go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► whatever screen that also feels slow but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► I tribute a lot of it to the remote well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► and some of it's clearly software some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► of it is like you know you'd like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► you wake up the remote when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► sitting down and a few seconds later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► eventually you see the home screen okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► swipe over to the thing you want oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► swipe swipe wait wait what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► button button button swipe swipe swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► come on push everything what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► and then BOOM everything happens all was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► queued up all that time is it come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► like what year is this like it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► this device doesn't do that much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► is it conserving power all that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► they're not using it why it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► the wall like what is it doing I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► the sleep thing is the sleep thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► brutal like I mean there's no fans there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► just leave it on all the time I'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► the energy cost if it means that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► have to wait for you know the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► seven seconds that it takes to be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► to respond to my commands but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► things about why it like in 2017 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► why am I ever waiting on the box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► anything like why when I push the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► button to wake it up why does it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► more than one second to become ready and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► most of that one second should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► waiting for my TV to recognize the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► like there is no reason it should take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► any time at all it's not doing that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► I don't have that many apps on it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► using the same like - over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► again like Netflix and plex that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► like what what is what is it doing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► the other hardware thing I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► forward to is as alluded to in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► promotion stuff a output at 24 or 48 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► whatever you know different frame rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► so that movies can look correct and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► everything or whatever do three to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► down to output everything at sixty Hertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► and that will be great I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► that's in the cards I would assume it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► but a lot of the things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► potentially that we talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► why does it happen already do this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► although what marketers subscribe isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► exactly an apple like experience either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► one possible way to sort of deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► this is the same way LCD TVs dealt with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► this and the past and probably still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► is to just take a really high frame rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► that's a multiple of 24 this isn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► know you still ideally you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► able to support any reasonable frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► rate but if you could just get 24 60 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► 30 or something that would go a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► so I'm I am looking forward to this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► lot of things that I would like to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► okay I had bought a blu-ray drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► while back because it was cheap to rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► blu-rays so and I was like no well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► have all the storage space why don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► lost Leslie rip them and have a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► watch any movie a blu-ray quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► through Plex on my TV the problem is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► television that can read a ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► blu-ray and play it on my television at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► the correct 24 frames per second cadence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► for you know movies and stuff so I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► have to put the blue area in the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► in my PlayStation 3 by the way which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► does output correct 24 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► cadence to my television which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► display correctly and I can watch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► boos the way I want to with plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► discs but I'm just waiting for maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► have to wait for a new TV but it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► be that Apple says now we're never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► to support 24 frames per second on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► old plasma TV get a new 4k TV with 240 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► or 120 Hertz refresh and hook it up to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► new Apple TV and that's how we'll deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► with it and I suppose I'll do that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► Marco eventually fair enough but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► we'll see what the announcements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► are first coming include but apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► whenever the next grant or season starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► if any of us choose to watch it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► dateable I can tell you one thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► not so yeah it's you guys if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► I certainly will but we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► happens but anyway apparently that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► on the Apple TV I have to reserve all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► TV watching time now for planet of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► apps I didn't see the first one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► I'm not an apple music subscriber but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► did you guys I haven't watched it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► my to-do list I I did not do my homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► I did not watch planned out of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► really but I do plan to watch it I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► to know what it is and to know whether L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► to know what it is and to know whether L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► like it or not I'm gonna have a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► interesting perspective maybe because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► I've never seen shark tank or any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► shows like shark tank so it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► slightly interesting for me to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► but I based on the reviews from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► friends stuff so far I don't have high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► hopes but I do want to give it a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► yeah I'm gonna need a reason right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► don't have a reason and everyone who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► seen it tells me it's bad so until I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► a reason I will just let everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► take that bullet for me fair enough all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► iCloud storage prices Apple dropped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► two terabyte iCloud storage price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► $9.99 it eliminated one terabyte option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► so the one terabyte now is 2 terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► it turns out Jason Snow had that upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► happened to him one of you it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► like had that upgrade happen as well yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► came from back from that video you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► pulled up my preference pane on my que [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► guess what I got two terabytes now me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► too Merry Christmas and it actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► you can now share it with in families so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► I haven't actually tried this yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► TIFF and I have each been paying for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► terabyte plan separately and we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► a family account so I want to try to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► they might have just saved this 10 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► a month do you know where you do that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► mentioned it I actually mentioned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► iCloud storage sharing on the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► actually went onto my Mac and click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► around to try to figure out where you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► that you happen to know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► family like manage family and the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► preferring Sam the geek and the chat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► saying it requires iOS 11 which probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► also means it requires high sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► so as yeah so i'm this is this might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► it has to wait till the fall yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► well can we also by the way this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► in the show notes but can we reconfirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► that hi Sierra is a terrible damn name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► yeah I'm still not used to it no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► alright pejorative rules sucks moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► and RuPaul's writes he hit regarding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► presentation in the in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► according to Andrew the pictured box is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► actually a sonnet eg FX box and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► put a link in the show notes to the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► that we're talking about can you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► this so it says sign up for sonnet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► online shorter online store ship date so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► it is not available yet I mean you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► been able to buy other similar boxes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► a while now so it's not like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► massive yeah you know thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► that's all the sudden brand new maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► different maybe support for it in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► is newer than that but the actual boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► are nothing new yeah people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► hacking this stuff together ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► Thunderbolt appeared even Thunderbolt 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► and by the way someone wrote in saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► that if you're wondering if Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► 2 is going to be officially supported by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► Apple for external GPUs the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► appears to be no Thunderbolt 3 only so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► oh well and by the way on that topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► talk about more things that happen later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► than vici WABC Apple itself in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► the one of the sessions I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► the AR or the VR thing or something put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► up a diagram that like with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► explained exactly how slow ton or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 is compared to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► internal cards to say all right so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► it's for programmers like you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► think ok internal GPU external GPO it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► doesn't make that much of a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► it's like it's all good Thunderbolt 3 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► really fast but it's not it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► quarter of the speed of an internal card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► and maybe your application doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► that but if you're not careful and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► don't realize that your application is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► shipping stuff to and from the card a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► lot you're thinking a way slower an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► external GPU in this session was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► to emphasize like this is something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► may not need to think about before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► suddenly now that you're sipping through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► a smaller straw think you know you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► need to think about it here's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► can you know check your application to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► see if it's doing this thing it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► know Apple is not a unified coordinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► beast so it's very possible that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► could have happened and also that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► the future Mac Pro comes with a next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► term GPU or something but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► that it would be a much better story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► much better coherent story even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► like you know a retrospective story or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► in hindsight to say and that's why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Mac Pro has multiple internal GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► because we don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► limited Thunderbolt 3 been we've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► full 16 PCI Express Lanes and your apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► will just be superfast all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► there's your Mac Pro I hope that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► yeah I mean that's gotta be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► because like if that wasn't the case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► iMac pro would beat the Mac Pro in GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► throughput well there's no external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► stuff on my micro its all-in-one yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► no I'm pretty you know the e GPU support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► is clearly meant for laptops like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► really what this is for it's for pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► customers who have pro GPU needs who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► using a MacBook Pro and they and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► want something they can like dock with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► that has a big GPU for certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► but if you're going to be really pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► it the answer is still going to be get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► desktop and probably get a Mac Pro or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► least my Mac Pro indeed all right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► mattias bessman writes in with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► nitpicky follow up in into his credit he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► actually labeled it himself as nitpicky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► follow-up Apple did actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► previous Bluetooth keep on stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► Hackett they wrote this in Apple Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► that did actually have a Bluetooth uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► keyboard on pad previously the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► wireless keyboard which is a one zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► one six and this was in 2003 uh we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► put a google image search in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► apparently it was a thing in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► and this is remember the keyboard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► remember the I remember seeing it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► never bought a Mac that came with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► but when I was Matt curious for the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► years before about my first Mac this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► the one that was in the stores that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► would that I would play with and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► and try it's the one with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► white keys and the clear plastic case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► around them so I've got one of these I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► course again full unsub might write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► keyboard is most notable for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► perhaps the most disgusting keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► apple has ever made because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► entire top of it is open it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► like a bathtub like a clear plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► little tub and the keys are in it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► as like food and gross stuff falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► between the keys the keyboard you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► see it's like a glass-bottom boat for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► the scum of your keyboard you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► all the crap it is the worst like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► nothing makes you feel more disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► than having one of these keyboards than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► just like tilting it up and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► the sides at the bottom like the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► it's amazing sounds wonderful ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► then they've been opaque for a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► and way thinner like this is giant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► this thing do you believe talk about key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► travel like the keys alone or like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► times the thickness of the half aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► key ports I would still prefer that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► here we go the keys the keys on this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► keyboard were not great by the way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► this like I was using like the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► - up until our si stopped me from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► it this was not a good keyboard in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► sense of the word if we just not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► follow-up my MacBook adorable should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► arrive tomorrow oh you don't have it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► oh yeah once I know about it yeah no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► until tomorrow unfortunately but uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4018">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► in knowing GPS it'll be the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► darn day which is frost will like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► several problems yep personal problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► if there are any uh okay moving on uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► there was some anonymous feedback about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► the home pod screen and and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► putting them quotes and so to set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► little bit of context um there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► there's been a little bit of debate over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► whether or not the home pod has a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► on the top and I think that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► had said like there were some leaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► beforehand that it either absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► would or absolutely would not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► screen and whatever the leak was doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► really matter and then when I when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► was announced last week there was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► of debate over whether or not what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► showed is or is not a screen because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► they really showed was this like Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► waveform on the top of the device this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► is parallel with like the the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► its resting on parallel with the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► it's the Siri looking waveform on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► top is that really a scream like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► could hypothetically present that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► by by having some LEDs like a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► handful of larger LED lights behind some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► can you really interact with that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► you show anything on that screen or can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► you only show the waveform and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► else and so and also complicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► matters some people have said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► can also show a plus and minus for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► volume control that are touch sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► so there's some speculation but is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► it's actually a touchscreen right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► there was some debate about this gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► I don't remember what side he came down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► on it doesn't really matter but he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► it's one thing there are many people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► disagreed so an anonymous person wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► in and told it's told us the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► the Siri waveform on the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► device is an LED array covered by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► circular feathered mask to prevent bleed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► and a diffuser or two each led is rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► diameter arranged in a somewhat circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► waveform but it does change behavior in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► color based on the state of Siri and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► device there are also plus and minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► buttons like Marco was commenting on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► volume control which appeared during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► music playback or when hovering your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► similarly similarly to the waveform and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► that they are white LEDs covered by mask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► and diffuser the entire top panel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► covered in glass this individual would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► consider the controls more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► capacitive more like a passive buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► rather than a full-on display however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► the entire top panel is capacitive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► performed for additional controls like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► tap double tap swipe et cetera and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► seems to be true as of what we saw at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► dub dub I don't know where I come down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► on this like I don't think it's a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► in the sense that most people mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► that it can show really anything I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► if that's the screen then the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► echo has a screen because the Amika the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► echo also has a whole bunch of LEDs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► top that show different states right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► it's it's it's like a semantic I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► it comes down to a semantic argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► about what is or is not a screen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► don't think it really matters but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► was certainly some interesting feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► about how supposedly this is all wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► together under the hood yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► that's that's that's not a screen that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► indicator lights you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► indicating state with lights like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► that is very much not a screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► might still be very useful I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► LEDs on the Amazon echo cylinders are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► very useful they're they're quite nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► they they do indicate the state of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► device and they provide useful feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► so it's not to say that this is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► however I would never in a million your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► status has a screen and I think in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► day and age I think what we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► from this market is maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► something to having a screen there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► certainly cases where at least having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► some kind of screen output would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► such as watching a timer countdown so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► depends I think if this is very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► Hardware probably you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► probably why you couldn't even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► demo Siri and stuff on it so this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► change that could be a placeholder maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► maybe the software UI for the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► screen that will be there wasn't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► yet and so they just put this thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► anything to show the demo units during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► this like listening test and stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► don't actually know yet it does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► like a lot of stuff to put in there - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► and have like a big touch panel - then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► not have at least a small OLED screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► below like I'm thinking basically have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► it be like you know that roughly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► capabilities of an Apple watch face you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► know like not having a ton of smarts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► a time like you know lots of apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► everything but just like some display of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► some things clock weather timers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► know basic stuff like that so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► you when you ask for things it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► more useful that would be nice however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► if the focus of this is going to remain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► pretty much mostly for music and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► just a little bit for smart home stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► basically the way it was presented to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► then it doesn't maybe need a screen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► if the idea of this is to have it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► big white IKEA room with nothing in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► and you're looking at it from 10 feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► away when you ask it to play something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► by Drake or whoever that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► at least modern music then it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► especially one on top because you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► be able to see it from 10 feet away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► if you're if you if it is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► compete also in the smart assistant area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► which I think it should and I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► it to then I don't think for a three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► hundred and fifty dollar product I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► think that's good enough I I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► should have a small screen that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► actually do things like display timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► and so I hope this is just a placeholder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► hardware thing until they get the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► Hardware done or it's also possible this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► tip is complete garbage Jen total BS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► maybe that was actually a bitmap screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► but from the way people were describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► it who saw it who had hands-on or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► know but had hands-on but people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► like in the room with it yep and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► what we saw this does sound like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► pretty plausible explanation for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► that was sure and why there's why there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► is now this kind of disagreement on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► whether and I has a screen because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► kind of looks like one but this explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► it pretty well so does the echo have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► touchpad on top of it no it has the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► whole top of the echo is is a turnable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► knob so you can turn it for volume which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► is very nice and it has a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► channel yeah and it has two physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► like an action buttons like if a timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► beeping you can hit the action button it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► stops it rather than having to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► ìlook stop so on the Google home it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► seems like they're doing a very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► thing to the Apple thing where it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► changing LEDs underneath the diffuser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► type thing and for volume control in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► Google home you trace out a circle along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► the line of the circle of elseit like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► basically it's a touch pad like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► crude trackpad type thing an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► having a whole glass top and according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► believed supporting not just arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► gestures like you would on a trackpad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► the glass top of it but also apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► like hovering so the most that proximity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► detection like when your hand gets close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► to it the plus and the minus is light up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► yeah that definitely makes me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► hardware but like the day but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► this is a design that they have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► whether they whether this is an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► design and they have already changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► manufacturer and they're going to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► screen I'm not sure but the second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► is what marketers point out they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► put a screen on this to any great effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► unless they totally redesign because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► screen that faces the ceiling it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► better than nothing but it's pretty crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► compared to you know the Amazon whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► show thing like you can't glance at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► from across the kitchen to see it your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► timer is because you probably won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► be able to see the top of it to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► time or time needs to be facing you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► need the perfectly like multiple timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► you can't sort of see it at an angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► depending on where you nestle this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► in the corner so they need an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► different device if they're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► screen all which makes me think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► thing on the top will be a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► you can gesture and wiggle your fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► on and have some status information on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► but not a thing that Apple expects you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► to look at because it's just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4501">TS</a>]
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01:17:08 ◼ ► our show all right so moving on to iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► we have a bunch of things to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► but about the iPad and some of it we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► cover this week and I think some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► will cover next week because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► some food stories to tell but a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► of the show serenity Caldwell has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► written a lot about the iPad has used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► the new iPad quite a bit and has tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► about the iPad a fair bit so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► going to kind of shock it approach some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► of the things she's talked about one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► the things she was speaking of now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► serenity if you don't know her is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► talented illustrator I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► she's like professionally trained or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► but Tamiya she's really really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► some very strong and in in in good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► opinions about the pencil in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► I would never be able to because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► know how to draw anything but stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► figures so so any was saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► pencil has always been 240 Hertz on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► old and new iPad pros Lightroom it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► samples a 240 Hertz right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► difference is is that the touch input on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► and in in bear correct me if I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► wrong the touch input on the old pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► was much slower than 120 Hertz is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► right yeah touch was sampled at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► believe only 60 because touch I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► was sampled with the rest of the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► only the pencil was sampled at the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► high rate I think I know at least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► pencil was but I think only the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► was and then also the framerate of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► display of the entire UI was 60 frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► per second I think she's saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► touch was 120 okay so no matter it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► in her tweet you know so it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► difference between input and output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► touch input was 120 pencil to 40 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► output was only 60 so there you go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► point we're driving at is the particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► numbers don't actually matter that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► it's just the point it's just that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► so so serenity continues you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► was great info for predicting lines in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► touch but it couldn't render the input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► at the rate it was being given with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► these new pros the screen can now output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► at 120 Hertz so touches at par pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► input is closer to par less prediction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► and more accuracy and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► series of tweets that we'll put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► show notes talking about all this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► one of them if I open these up I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► she has a video do we have that here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► video of her showing the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► between the two different devices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► old iPad pro and the new one if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► have that in the show notes and I'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► to dig it up but uh it's just it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► in some rates damned impressive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► really really is it's super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► impressive yeah this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► thing that I I wish I used the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► sensibility and habit I don't but I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► I did because seeing serenity do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► with it in person everybody see like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► it's like I mean first of all I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► she's really good that's but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► you know the talent of the person is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► more important than the tools and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► of these things but just has a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► impressive wickets I could not believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► smoothness of it it it is incredible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► if you are a heavy pencil user I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► suggest you consider upgrading your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► because it is it is remarkably different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► like I was able to see it side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► and and it really is a a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► don't tell my wife because then I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► to buy other iPad so yeah this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► sample-rate thing like it may seem weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► to people that both the previous and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► new iPads are sampling at a faster rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► than the screen could display because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► it's true both of them because the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► know the pencils are 240 and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► screen is only 120 and back then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► pencil was 240 the screen is only 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► what good what good is it to sample if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► your output is only a fraction of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► frame rate and as certainty points out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► it's about knowing where the implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► whether it be your finger or the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► is so you can make predictions about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► line it's kind of like client-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► prediction and first-person shooters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► that you want it to feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► less latency than there is and so as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► pencil list is gliding along even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► you don't get to display this frame and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► you don't get to display this frame but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► you're sampling it fast enough that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► know okay now I know where it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► even time to render this frame and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► reduces the perceived latency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► surroundings number earth were twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► milliseconds versus fifty so the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► pencil was 50 milliseconds the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► is 20 and the pencils being sampled at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► exactly the same rate 240 Hertz on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► the old and the new the difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► all about the display can now refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► more frequently and once again referring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► to that I was at the Microsoft video up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► with their little test demo device where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► they can scale the latency from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► hundred to ten to one all right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► have the latency less than you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4918">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► it was it got cut and cut in half even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► more more than half how close are we to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► milliseconds latency in the demo video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► we'll put a link in the show notes 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► Ekans still feels better than then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► obviously better than 100 and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► better than 20 one millisecond looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► lot better than 10 so if you want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► like how close are we for this being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► just like real pencil we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► close but we're still in order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► magnitude off we're still you know 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► versus one so hold on tight for I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► you know five years from now we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► it down from 20 milliseconds to five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► something and we'll start to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► ballpark and then things start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► really interesting also one more reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► why you want to sample the pencil at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► faster rate than just the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► possibly is that if you're making if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► you're drawing very very like big lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► quickly so like you're moving there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► lot of motion happening if you're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► sampling it at 60 Hertz you might or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► even hundred twenty Hertz like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► drawing really fast big squiggly lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► the the number of points that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► capturing might be further apart than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► the pixels and so you have to then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► you're drawing a line like that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► interpolate you have to write well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► went from this dot to this dot and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► assume it's going to be a smooth curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► between those two dots and the higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► sampling rate is the less interpolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► you have to do and the more the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► you're actually capturing what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► movement was that the artist was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► if they're making a really big fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► stroke yeah and it take time to render [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► frames to you so you always have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► like okay tell me where all the inputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► are because I'm going to start doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► work to draw the screen and then it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► okay I got all your inputs and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► input if it was exactly the same frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► rate as a screen you might fall on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► boundary where like oh I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► liked to wait three more milliseconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► and get the next input and that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► prediction but it turns out there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► know they weren't lined up in the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► video games have a lot of problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► this like in terms of the game engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► trying to get its work done at just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► right time to give the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► system time to render out that frame you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► don't want big gaps and so this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► inviting the ARV are things where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► put up a big like sort of a like a Gantt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► chart and Microsoft Project of like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► the different things that are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► in a system and you don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► big gaps that you want everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► finish just in time to get the optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► but for the optimal experience and same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► thing with those uh was the Nvidia I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► think g-sync thing where they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► synchronize the the refresh of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► monitor with the game engine again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► reduce those gaps so you get a smoother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► tear free you know drawing at variable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► frame rates instead of having like a 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► Hertz uh vertical blanking interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► holdover from the CRT days doing away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► with that and trying to get the engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► in the screen all in the same page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► having more samples also makes it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► likely that you will be able to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► recent recent input close to the optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► window for handing off to the system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► render and display and speaking of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► sorts of things Joe LeBlanc writes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and saying people are preferring 120 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► Hertz huh displays in blind tests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► this appears to be gamer related in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► the the actual title vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► gamers prefer 120 Hertz monitors but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► people like them although I did use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► it's somewhere I feel like I heard some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► people saying that it kind of made them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► a little queasy which is interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► hypothetically may have seen one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► these iPads very briefly and I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► but I haven't used it for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► yesterday yesterday okay and what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► think it is ridiculously good it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► good not only is a faster than John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► Mac Pro but it is it is just so good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► so many ways so you know I'm not a heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► iPad user I use my iPad lightly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► frequently like I sold my old one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► Twitter about 24 hours before my new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► was going to arrive so I went like 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► hours without having an iPad and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► actually really missed it and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► thought like two years ago I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► I never would have guessed that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► be in that state what really changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► iPad for me what what what you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► for everyone this is a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► with what really made me get the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► finally after years was the combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► of having really great speakers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► smart Keyboard and basically leaving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► smart Keyboard permanently attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► combined with really great speaker so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► that it basically became my kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► computer because it plays podcasts I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► clicking off a recipe online I can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► I can hold the recipe there I can browse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► the web lime waiting for coffee to roast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► and like it's just having it always in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► the keyboard made that difference for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► and having the great speakers made it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► far the best podcast player that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► have in a kitchen because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► overcast you know the experience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► using overcast through something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► Sonos or Alexa is not great and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► using the app is always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► better than that by a mile and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► keyboard puts it up in a nice position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► for like standing up at counter use so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► it's just great I very much enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► iPad for that and then like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► we're like watching some you know low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► mental effort TV at night I will bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► the iPad over to the couch and it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► my couch computer like what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► else in the world has done for years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► this is basically the me discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► what everyone else discovered with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► iPad a long time ago so anyway I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► like the iPad even though I'm not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► entertainment device and a light work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► device anyway so the new hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► ridiculously awesome you know in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► away in general it you're not waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5274">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► for anything and I use I'm using the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► 11 beta first thing I do is all the beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► because I was using it on my other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► something that that that I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► and I want to get used to it I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► learn it and the iOS 11 beta is buggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► and slow and slaughters the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► nobody should be using the iOS 11 beta I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► am using it but nobody should it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► is a terrible idea to put this beta on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► any device that you rely on or care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► it also apparently has been breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► some people's devices so again I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► don't recommend that anybody install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► beta but I did and so I can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► judge things like battery life and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► performance like the beta is really slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► and it was really slow on my old iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► substantially those will be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► because the hardware so much better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► you do anything heavy on the iPad any if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► you if you were just a heavy iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► user I strongly suggest you check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► and this I should clarify also this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► the 10.5 I do not get 12.9 because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► my aforementioned use of basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► casual plus light work I think even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► 12.9 fans would agree the d 10.5 is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► size to get for that the twelve point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► nine is the size to get if you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► heavy iPad productivity user and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► want to full screen app side by side on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► a regular basis and you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► need to carry it around a whole lot then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► the twelve point on is for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► that's not going to be most people most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► people detent the ten point five is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► size to get and this is all everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► I've just said is not even mentioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► the 120 Hertz display but let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► you when you see the 120 Hertz display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► it ruins everything else for you forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► it is as big to a lot of people I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► or will be as big 12 people as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► retina transition was you know I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► hypothetically spent a little time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► one of these last week I came into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► the for my first impression was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► then I saw it being used for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► hypothetically I saw it being used for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► while I was like actually this is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► impressive and where I left it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► having used one even hypothetically for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► more than a few minutes was this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► important and it's a bigger deal than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► but I a lot of people have been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► it's as big as retina perhaps I'll feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► that way later but sitting here now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► after only brief usage it is certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► the most impressive thing that I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► in a long time a la retina but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► think it was as big as retina but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► see what I feel like in whatever I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► my hands on one of these eventually one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► day or if the phone for example has them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► it isn't as big as retina in in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► sense of like looking at it if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► look at a screen shot you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► see it it is basically the motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► version of retina it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► interesting what I'm looking at it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► any kind of motion any animation any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► scrolling text like a lot like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► reading a web page you notice that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► because when you're scrolling the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► blur is less so if you're reading while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► scrolling like it's it's a noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► difference even just like moving page to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► page in springboard just like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► that's the first thing I did when I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► it before right right before I sold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► beta was I just like swipe back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► forth on springboard like between my two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► pigs of actions like whoa it's so smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► it really is it is a way bigger gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► than I thought it would be you know III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► didn't think it would be that noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► but it really is that noticeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► yeah I mean if I had to pick either only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► having retina or only having 120 Hertz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► pick retina every time but we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► have right now yeah right retinas a done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► deal now like it well tell it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► MacBook Air but for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► because a done deal now and so now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► now that we've all established that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► we've had that we can move on from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► advancement and it won't be as high for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► some people for me though I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► it is on that magnitude I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► comparison to retina is extremely apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► because just like retina I guarantee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► there are people who you will put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► thing in front of who have no idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► distinguish between the two and will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► care about it like sure I've shown a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► of people Retina screens I like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► you see how different these screens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► these pixels are the size of boulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► and you can't even see them here they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► be like huh like the thing again in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► TV parlance saying that they are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► more likely no to say that screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► brighter they they don't like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► people just don't care about retina they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► don't see it you pointed out to him look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► at the text look at the serif see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► they like oh yeah I don't care now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► could be of those same people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► care get used to it and can't go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► the other thing but it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► they're just always like well that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► not important to me or my vision is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► acute enough for me to be able to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► such differences 120 Hertz is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► that some people will be like but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► can you not it's just like what Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► said before about drawing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► pencil when you scroll really fast if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► you've only got 60 frames per second it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► previously in the middle of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► in the next frame is at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► screen so your device shows two frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► line in the middle and line at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► in between despite the fact that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► were taking a piece of paper and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► it by that same speed you would see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► positions in between right and so 120 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► Hertz gives you more frames in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► makes it appear smoother and I'll bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► they're people you show that to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► look at the slow motion look looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► Contra celerity be like oh alright I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► guess that's nice oh but so I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► retina is perfectly app it's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► that's going to mean so much to certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► geeks and other people will absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► take for granted and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► everyone will just become accustomed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► so that if you fast forward many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► like say we get the screen up to 240 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► you pull out it's too bad we never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► 30 frames per second because iOS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► always aiming for 60 wasn't it 60 from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► the beginning and earlier that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► like if we had 30 and compared that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► 240 people like oh how did you ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► this 13 for a second thing it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► terrible I think it's back to this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► gamer story here I mentioned in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► show like gamers always obsessing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► framerate and the question was like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► is the point of diminishing returns like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► should you get a system that can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► this game you know at 500 frames per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► second or once you pass 60 or so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► does it not matter anymore and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► what gamers are is obsessed with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► monitors I was trying to figure out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► asking these gamers who are presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► very sensitive to frame rates and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► first-person shooters and everything one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► of the questions was can you even tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► like they put them in front of a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► I'm not going to tell you if this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► of the 2,100 Hertz one of the 60 Hertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► one can you even tell if the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► you're in front of is 120 or 60 and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► of them could not all of them though but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► most of them is like 88% could say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► yeah I've correctly identified the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► screen that I'm using this is a 120 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► this is a 60 so the fact that there even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► some gamers who couldn't tell shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► by the way this was a game obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► this that with a frame rate that exceeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► 60 so they would you know it would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► different Thanks sometimes it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► that easy to tell any other question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► the gamers perspective is like did I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► better on the screen with the higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► framerate and the methodology this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► article is not conclusive because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► can you know have a few people playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► something whatever that's what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► to know is like does this make me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► better player or not and that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► all comes down with what it's used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► but for things like drawing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► pencil it's pretty clear that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► if you're drawing with something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► line you're tracing lags behind your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► cursor by twice as much on one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► another you're going to like the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► one better but the fact that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► can tell shows that maybe the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► shooters maybe hovering somewhere past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► 60 or whatever but that people can can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► see the difference especially with very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► fast motions pretty easily if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► looking for if you know what to look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► you have the two devices there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► move your finger arm you can totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► the difference which makes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► that you know where where is the limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► on this for seeing the difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► terms of human visual acuity is would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► 240 would we be able to tell adrims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► between 240 and 120 and look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► go oh wow I can really see that 120 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► looks like it's all stuttery and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► one is smooth as butter right or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► there a point after which you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► can't tell anymore and you'd put the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► devices side-by-side and you scroll them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► as much as you want any but I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► is this one 5000 every second in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► one is 2,000 I can't tell anymore so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► may be approaching that I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► someone should write in about the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► visual system and tell us at what point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► will be side by side scrolling test stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► working on humans and that's where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► can stop their work but in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► they they should keep going yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► I would even go further to say like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► is so impressive that first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► think the reason why maybe some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► this makes them feel weird and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► actually is an accessibility option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► to restrict to cap the framerate at 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► Hertz which is probably for this reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► in addition to looking really cool it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► jarring how different looks the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► time you see it and the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► you you touch it and move and you see an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► animation it actually is like jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► and it's kind of like the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► see a like high frame rate movie and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► like the soap opera effect on TVs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► charm of so much like it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► that but but like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► computer interaction version that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► like you're looking at you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► that's this is like surreal in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► it's it's a very jarring thing to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► but I would so I will go as far as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► say I like it so much it makes such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► big difference that between the iMac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► and the Mac Pro if one of them somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► supports this on its display but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► other one doesn't this might be enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► to make a decision one way or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► on that like in the same way that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► the 5k iMac came out I gave up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► cylinder Mac Pro because I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► desktop Retina so badly and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► only way to get it at that time at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► size this this is that big of a deal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► me now that I've seen it now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► played with it like now if the iMac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► se say the iMac Pro can do it like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► advantages of an internal bus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► everything say the CDI Mac Pro can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► 120 Hertz but the Mac Pro over some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► cables some separate display can't I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► get the mi Pro for that reason alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► that's how good that's how good this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► I might consider that as well although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► the the Mac Pro is further hindered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► the potential rumors of 8k because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► member we were just talking about boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► when will we be able to do 5k at 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► frames per second over a cable it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► surprise 8 km 120 hearts where's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► God now yeah like that's a lot of damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► pixels coming over it's a there's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► no hope and that's why Marcos is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► to like if you're gonna pin your hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► on anything pinch on the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► they have everything of the box they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► hide the two ugly cables and the timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► chip and all that other stuff like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► could conceivably pull it off but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► then like the GPU starts to weep at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► certain point like start doing the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► that is a lot of pixels per second yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► it's it is a difficult challenge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► honestly I would imagine that it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► perceptible on a device that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► constantly touching and swiping maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► you have a you know the Apple touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► Mouse and you're swiping for scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► it would start to show up but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► boy that's that's that I know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► that's a difficult I have to Apple touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► pointing devices one on each out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► keyboard yeah I mean and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► drawing on your Mac screen with a pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► I suppose no you can use your iPad as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► 120 Hertz display that you can draw on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► when you connect to your Mac with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► didn't get announced the WZ by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► but it's still out there if that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► ever shapes yeah yeah but it no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► like you know one thing you doing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► desktop a lot is scroll you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► you're scrolling webpages all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► on desktop so like you just page down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► and page up and have it set to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► smooth scrolling is for suckers instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► I think they remove that feature I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► that the secret prep set for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► I think it's gone now though like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► think you have no choice you get smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► swirling whether you like it or not yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► I think when they went when they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► fully GPU rendered I think that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► so now I'll use another reason to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► Chrome right guys oh god thanks for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► three sponsors this week betterment endo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► Chino and mail route and we'll see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► was accidental oh it was accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► didn't do any research Marco and Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► wouldn't let him cuz it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► it was accidental and you can find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► show notes at a TPM and if you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► Twitter you can follow them at CAS pyl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6055">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► ISS so that's Casey list ma accion krm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► aunty Marco Arment li r AC USA Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► we need to discuss a few things and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► last of the three things we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► discuss the other two should be quick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► the food at WWE this is your teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► everyone that it is coming it is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► this episode um so I can't wait because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► I haven't had it yet because I wasn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► didn't have a ticket I can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► hear about it mm-hmm before though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► need to talk about a couple of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► things number one I stole something from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► dub dub I'm in bidding it publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► except not really is it everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► heart Casey no it is not everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► heart that is very kind of you to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► make that joke now I actually didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► really steal anything this is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► not interesting to anyone but me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► thought it was funny and a nice story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► about how Apple nerds are actually nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► people so I forget what day it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► want to say it was Wednesday it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► really matter but one of the days toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► the end of the week I went i sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► with my old and busted 2015 circa 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► MacBook Pro before touch bar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► before anything fancy and cool and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► wanted to use Ethernet and so as as with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► prior years I plugged in my Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► Ethernet connector plugged in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► Ethernet ports in let me back up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► half-step so basically they have areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► in in the conference center where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► they'll have Ethernet ports they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► power strips and and in years past they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► used to actually provide Thunderbolt 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► Ethernet connections that that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► could use you don't have to bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► own but because the new hotness is USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► that's what they had this year instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► so but they had just plain old ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► cables that you could plug into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► connector that you provide which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► I did so I sit down i plug in my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► know ethernet adapter I download a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► of videos I leave and I completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► forget my Ethernet adapter crap I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► back almost exactly 24 hours later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► know it was still there my Ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► adapter I was overjoyed because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► like a $30.00 damn adapter and no nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► so none of these nerds was a big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► jerk or noticed to take it I was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► excited but then that then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► that awkward social moment where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► a bunch of people around you and you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► down and you plug in and then you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► the adapter and walk off and I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► imagine what the people around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► thought just hand on heart it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► exact same spot I was the day before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► am 99% sure it was the same adapter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► here it is I like sit down without an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► adapter and walk away with an adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► and I'm sure the people around me were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► like what just happened but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► anyway so yeah so when I say I stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► something from dub dub really I stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► something that I had left at dub dub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► also tangential don't I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► you've ever talked about this on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► show and you two obviously know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► answer but for the listeners if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► one of these Ethernet to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► adapters so maybe Ethernet to USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► Ethernet to Thunderbolt how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► ensure that the ones that Casey doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► don't walk away what do you do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► Apple came up with a completely genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► so obviously you - no but the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► take a what do you call that tie the zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► thank you a zip tie take a zip tie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► if you imagine an Ethernet cable the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► they generally work is they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► the part with all the eight or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► it is wires in it and then like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► tabby that pops up and in order to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► the ethernet cord out of the device it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► plugged into you have to push the tabby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► down so what they do is they take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► zip tie and tie it super tight around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► the Ethernet cable under the tabby thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► so the only way to get this out is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► push down on the tabby thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► can't because the zip tie is there how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► frickin clever is that it's been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► same way for years but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► we've ever had a in impetus to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► about it super clever such a low-tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► but great solution to the problem which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► I thought was really funny so yep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► was me stealing something from dub dub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► exception tell them you're using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► Apple app that makes it look like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► stealing but you totally paid using easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► just wait for a few seconds and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► make it yeah just walk away surely no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► one thought that works with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► the phone doesn't even need to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► doesn't even need to have a battery or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► work when it doesn't walk out with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► oh don't do that okay so uh we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► also talk about what Marco did for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► entire week and uh as far as I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► from every time I saw you you just drank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► coffee and sat outside that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► it it was glorious it was funny so uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► at at San Jose there was a coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► social policy which was either genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► or ironically called Sopo I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► if that was that was intentional or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► I mean their sign said SOPA on it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► guess it's embraced but anyways it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► from what I could tell a nice coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► shop like actually I guess I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► more of like a cafe because they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► little bit of food and you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► this on was it run loop is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► which show were you on the yeah run loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► and also under the radar but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► think it's out yet but yeah so well I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► put a link to in the show notes to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► loop but um but yeah so Marco basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► each morning and you know jump in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► you're ready but I'm just telling you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► observation it would roll out of bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► when it suited him and then shuffle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► down to the social policy which was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► across the street from the Fairmont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► 4-points hotel very very close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► conference center so you would roll into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► social policy and because California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► doesn't have weather you could sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► outside and it seemed like no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► when I passed by social policy you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► different people but you were a fixture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► the entire week so it was really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► just holding court in social policy if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► anyone wanted a conference with the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► they just had to show up at social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► policy and that's where he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► that's basically true and there was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► there was one day where I went there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► breakfast I tried to leave and then ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► to a bunch of our friends who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► heading there and went right back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► with them then I had a lunch meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► there like 40 minutes later so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► stayed I hung out with our friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► then change tables for the lunch meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► they then then had the lunch meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► then after that like there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► other reason why I had to be there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► it was basically spent a whole day there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► but it was ya know it's a great place I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► mean this is one of the things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► you know that I like about having it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► San Jose that that we have never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► really in San Francisco is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► there are these clear like common places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► because it's it's a much smaller area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► that most people are really walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► between like the hotels that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► are staying in we're very very close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► the conference center right there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► there were more affordable hotels close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► to his conference center than there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► on San Francisco and so everyone was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► not everybody like more people were in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► smaller area they were it seems like San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► Jose is a much quieter town most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► time we know outside of conferences at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► least in this part of the town is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► like they were there was there were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► few other people walking around who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► weren't conference attendees or adjacent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► people like me and so it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► really really good hangout area in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► general there were a handful of coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► shops a handful of bars handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► restaurants that are all right around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► there and you could just hang out at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► of them and you would see tons of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► that were conference attendees and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► you know if you know a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► there like like we do you'd see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► your friends and so it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► really great scenario and Sara never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► that they were there was no place in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► Francisco that you could sit and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► run into people that easily and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► quickly that was that nice and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► you would that you would learn as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► that often it was it was great for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► summarize Marcos review San Jose a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► place not to attend WWDC honestly yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► yes it it like I I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► know what to expect going into it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► is my first time going without a ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► but Wow was it great and and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► should you know and to to clarify here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► talked a little bit this on the radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► which should come out about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► time as this to clarify one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► reasons I was able to do that is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► I've been going for so many years with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► ticket that I know a lot of people now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► so when you know a lot of people's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► marketing like when you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► people you can do that really easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► it's harder if you don't know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► I would not recommend going out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► with no conferences to attend because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► think you need something to anchor your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► day if you know most unless you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► lot of people there you have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► something to anchor your days so go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► know get a ticket to a conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► whether it's WTC or layers or all conf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► honestly it doesn't matter that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► whichever one appeals to you most and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► that you that you can get into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► afford and everything else but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► are going out there mostly for social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► reasons and you already know some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► out there that you can hang out with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► stuff then going totally ticketless is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► pretty cool and I can recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► because it's a very different experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► in San Jose than it ever was in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► Francisco I mean I can't count the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► number of breakfasts I had in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► Francisco in that sad little bagel deli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► next to the park 55 just like as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► working out of the door like on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► out to try to make the morning session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► breakfasts alone just like rushing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► Moscone and that never happened in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► Jose like I would say for breakfast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► there would already be four people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► know at the coffee shop I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► food and eight more people would show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► like it but it was just it was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► it was a very very different experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► so I really did appreciate that yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► know I'm giving you a hard time but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► it were me I'd probably be in the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► same boat and it was really nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► a place that we could all gather that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► would appeal to everyone because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► a coffee drinker but you know they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► other things to drink and they had food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► to eat and it was right by the two most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► popular hotels or at least amongst our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► you know kind of social circle and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► yeah you would end up because often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► times should be eating outside you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► you would be walking by maybe to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6718">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► your hotel via KHOU there's Marco I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► swing by and say hey and next you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► it's three hours later so I'm giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► a hard time but but I I couldn't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► more with pretty much everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► just said pretty much the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► regret about not having a ticket this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► year is I didn't get one of those cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► jackets they are pretty cool and the pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► is mine so in the pins that's right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► for the first time in I would say four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► years however long they've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► those weird nylon track jackets they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► and look on eBay like should I just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► one Arnie Biggs I'm sure people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► dumping them and sure enough the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► is yes people are dumping them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► they're going for like a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► fifty dollars or more Wow okay I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► want one that badly suddenly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► want mine if it's a large maybe let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► talk yeah right but no they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► were nice jackets and yeah I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► we did we talked about this last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► I don't think so the pin yeah that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► people have but we haven't okay so short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► short version is when you walked in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► registered you would get a package of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► six pins and a country pin so you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► pin that shows like the US flag or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► like Federico got the Italian flag etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► and the six pins there they're differing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► reports as to how many of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► consistent how many were different it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► doesn't really matter the point is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► not all six were the same amongst every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► happening was you started like wheeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► and dealing just like Disney style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► trying to find somebody who like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► Federico you took a happy Mack and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► took a metal logo is that right I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► sacrifice my metal pin which is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► the ones I liked but I had to do what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► took to get a happy Mac see end up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► trading with people and then at certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► points throughout the week if you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► to certain things or did certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► they would give you a pin so at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► point I was hanging out downstairs maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► when I was leaving my dongle behind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► I got a San Jose pin when you walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► into the into the bash on Thursday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► afternoon you got like a you know metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► not metal to the am but metal like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► know pinky and forefinger up with WDC on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► it and I think if you went to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► labs you got like a space invader thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► if you went to another lab you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► and so if you're if you're curious what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► the pins are almost all of them if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► all of them are in the WWDC app on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► iphone and they're a sticker pack for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► messages which I also thought was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► I'm being told via Sam the geek and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► in the chat room that space invaders was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► the game's meet up and there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► other ones also elsewhere as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► anyways the the point is you would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► kind of exchange these pins if you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► desired throughout the course the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► and you could kind of quote-unquote earn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► throughout the week when you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► wristband to go into the bash you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► either command-z or one other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► pan africa the other one was but anyways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► the it was I thought that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► clever at first I was like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► really but it ended up being really cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► and really fun and and I am fully on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► board with them doing that again I put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► sunglasses emoji and a thumbs up emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► on my laptop bag so I I'm a sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► guy given a thumbs up jelly in the chad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► jelly bean super said born to code was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► wristband it to be honest it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► really matter but the point is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► pins I thought really cool also if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► happen to be selling on eBay with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► good set of pins they're going for over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► three hundred dollars then my were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► I had no if you would have asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► before I did the search to predict how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► much they were going for I would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► maybe like you know fifty bucks and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► they're coming for a lot you have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► this receive a lot of pins that's Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► is late to the pin trading game I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► maybe Disney started it but met several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► years ago the Penny Arcade Expo picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► xoxo would search going yeah go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► search for how much a complete pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► collection than any of those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► conferences or venues goes for Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► finally found another market where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► can make a small number a finely crafted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► things sell for a huge amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► but they're not selling them it's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► that's why they're worth a huge amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► of money well secondary market is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► like when people get their iPhones early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► and then they sell them immediately on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► eBay same thing only there will never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► any more of these pins if you didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► one it's too late and thanks again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► our friend Sam the geek in the chat we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► have learned that if I want to buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► same jacket without the WTC logo on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► it appears to be the Levi's it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► the trucker jacket and it's 70 bucks no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► puddling can show yeah so we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► might it's a really it looks really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► on everybody the only thing is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► large that's the only question so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► have to see okay the time has come we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► need to talk about food and Marco I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► that there's going to be this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► going to be as exciting for you perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► we have to talk about the food this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► so exciting for me you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► let's start with the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► thing there was Odwalla however there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► was no Mango Tango and it it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► basically the whole week was a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► troll of Casey Liz there were trams I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► don't know what they're called it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► doesn't really matter but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► trams that ran actually right next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► social policy one of the tram or many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► the trams one of the designs on the tram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► there was a like billboard that took up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► the entire side of the tram was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► the situations are they like painted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► advertisement on the side of the tram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► one of them was not wala advertisement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► and not only that but it was featuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► Mango Tango we get into the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► actually I think people had seen some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► odd wallet coolers which is what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► seen in the past and they had sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► pictures on Twitter and I'm all excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► with myself and I did not see one mango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► tango all week you guys the struggle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► real but I was orange juice but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► was a chalky um chocolate milk sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► thing there was what was the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► shows that aren't one was the decoy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► almost rush you're the one to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► girl finally a mango tango pick when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► he's up for Casey but it was a decoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► was there was a decoy a mango in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► yeah it was a I think so I tweeted about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► at some point uh but yeah it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► entire week in terms of Odwalla was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► long troll Casey list and now I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► exactly how you felt several years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► Marko when you had the long troll of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► strawberry sea monster yep it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► worst you guys was the worst it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► funny talking to people because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► after I've been chatting about it both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► online and on the show people came up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► me and one of the common things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► everyone said to me was did you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► look at the nutrition information on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► and the story I told that much is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► is that it wasn't until like my third or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► fourth dub-dub that I finally took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► look at the nutrition information those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► things are like three or four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► or something like that whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► number is it is intense there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► like any kind of like juice that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► gonna be having like in general public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► drink it needs tons of sugar to taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► good it's always gonna have tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► sugar yeah it was it's bad but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► the Odwalla that was the thing so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► box launches in John at this point feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► free to jump in whenever you're ready oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► I'm sorry I shouldn't get to box lunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► I should mention the breakfast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► breakfast I think I only had one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► because I was running around most the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► other day sometimes in social policy uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► did they have the world's worst bagels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► John as per usual oh they did that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► right we have to talk about the cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► cheese yeah that was a downgrade I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► like I said downgrade on the breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► starting off with a breakfast I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► have the breakfast because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► they usually have a lot of junk food for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► breakfast is like well you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► bad quality food make it junk food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► because drunk I'm gonna tell you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► thing by the way the breakfast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► social policy was amazing like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► like five or six different amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► options it's so good it was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7196">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► options it's so good it was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► I've ever had at a conference yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► you the social quality breakfast this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► definitely looks better but the junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► food they usually have in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► the past few years is they have various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► kinds of danishes with some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► fruit jelly again ninety percent sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► speaking of things that appear to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► fruit but are actually just sugar donuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► Francisco they also have bagels and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► are they really is that whatever West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► Coast bagels with with with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► different spreads that butter you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► put on usually jelly and also whipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► cream cheese alright so this year it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► seemed like the same stuff oh there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► the danishes with a little fruit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► middle oh there are the quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► bagels but the cream cheese and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► spread situation was kind of grim they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► did have butter in little balls but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► think it was unsalted butter which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► kind of a technical foul there I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► like that cream cheese I did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:55 ◼ ► yeah they do not have a giant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7255">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► open vat of whipped cream cheese instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► Philadelphia looking for the toilet off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► your brand Casey it was okay case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► from okay alright so now I have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► these a tiny man yeah like I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► fill in some color commentary so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► know I don't think I'm going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► to find an image of this but um but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► Americans anyway I think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► uniquely American thing so Kraft makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► cream cheese call it the brand is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► Philadelphia Cream Cheese and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► ways it comes is rather than in a tub it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► comes as like a little brick if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► Philadelphia Cream Cheese it has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► unique wrapper in it Marco do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► what I'm talking about it's like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► aluminum foil but yeah it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► rectangle that's kind yet kind of oily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► but it's it's thick it's lined right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► and then it has that weird Ridge across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► the top you gotta like try to peel apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► exactly okay so with that mental model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► in mind and again if you're not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► America or I've never seen this III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7318">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► genuinely I'm sorry but I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► I'm looking at Google search and Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► Images I can't find an example so if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► find one we'll put in the show notes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► anyway imagine like a really thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► aluminum foil and on the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► together the two ends of it are pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► you're supposed to peel them apart just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► like Marco said so what they had a dub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► dub was they had kind of like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► mini versions of that so it was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► material but it was the size of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► catch mail a little bit bigger than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► catch a packet but kind of around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► size so you with me so far Marco yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► like similar material much much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► smaller so I sit down embarrassingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► right at the edge of that outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► seating area so anyone can walk by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► see me and I try to open and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► got two of these cream cheeses because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► I'm a man that likes my cream cheese and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► so I didn't think one would be enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► get two of them you've never sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► more New York than you just have right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► then thank you so I try to open it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► the side because it says open here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► it points to the side and I noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► you know at first I try to do the tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► thing like tear off the side because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► know you would expect like a perforation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► or something like that so I go to tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► off the side I really shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► telling the story publicly but it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► funny not to I go to tear off the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► this looks a lot like the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► brick of cream cheese I know what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► to do I have to pull it apart no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► kid you not I spent five minutes across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► two different creams Jesus trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► pull this damn thing apart I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► felt dumber in my life but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► truth I could not figure it out so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► ended up having the world's worst bagel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► plane because I just couldn't figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► out I didn't have like seven hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► work on this you just gave up that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► best part of the story is that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► were defeated that it wasn't like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► really hard to get it out or you made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► big mess when you opened it up you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► defeated you you uh surrendered to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► cream cheese to of I did like you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► second run you like okay let me just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► this down it's all hot and like slippery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► now for my finger Reese let me get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► second fresh one let me take a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► approach nope did it Owen - you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► Owen - again that's true cream I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► could I wish I could tell you I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► making this up just for listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► enjoyment I swear to god this is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► what I feel like you should have at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► least resorted to you're sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► animalistic nature and just torn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► thing open with your teeth to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► like you know what you're not gonna beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► me packet of cream cheese it's true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► tried with my teeth couldn't get it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► am I am i I I can laugh about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► it is pretty damn funny but it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► super and let me clear these containers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► not hard open after he said that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► next day I had to get a package I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► even see the package first time I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► didn't even bother getting a Bao's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► like oh there's no cream cheese what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► hell am I gonna do with that bagel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► exercise but ever dissever the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► butter was in salt anyway I took one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► those packets it has little things open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► here I tore it opened it was like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► yeah it was with opposable I can open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► these but not lies John siracusa lies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► opened the first jar - thank you - he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► and basically said you idiot look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► what I was able to do oh my god it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► breakfast like the lack of cream cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► for the bagels was good it seemed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► less variety of stuff the croissants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► were ok but sometimes the head weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► almonds on top of them unsalted butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► no good Dana just seemed about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► maybe less variety like usually in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► old thing there would be like all five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► flavors of danishes and there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► doughnuts no doughnuts at all not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► doughnuts were great at San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► but some doughnuts are better than no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► alright this is so I know Howard another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► thing that I regret about not having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► ticket to the conference I regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► watching me for watching the two of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:37 ◼ ► react and in experience this food uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7537">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► it's so true ok so let's talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► lunches so we had heard room rumblings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► of maybe there were executive box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► lunches maybe they were just box lunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► and um and so on keynote day we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► eventually shuffled outside if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► distributing lunches so immediate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7557">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► they offer diet coke I believe we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► on the legendary dub-dub food episode a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► few episodes back that they had either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► the world's worst lemonade or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► world's worst iced tea and those used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► be here to launch selections and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:12 ◼ ► were there early enough there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7572">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► usually a single Odwalla fridge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► would get raided in seconds so you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► to be there early but those were your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:20 ◼ ► options now this time they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7580">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► offered Diet Coke which is the nectar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► the Gods don't listen to the other two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:27 ◼ ► guys don't listen to the other two guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7587">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► it's true wait so I was already incited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► were the only three options like country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► time lemonade crap iced tea and Diet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:36 ◼ ► Coke was there more dot they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7596">TS</a>]
02:06:40 ◼ ► and see it I don't think I saw the iced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7600">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► tea or the or the lab understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► regular coke right I don't know I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► never got a soda when I was there but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► really you don't say so I had my diet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► coke in the first day what I had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► actually a Caesar salad with some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:55 ◼ ► of season two shrimp on it you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7615">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► shrimp at a conference box Long's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► a--that's a risky move man I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► it actually tasted quite good I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► impressed well so they won but part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► the rumor is before you get to date to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► part of the rumor is about San Jose I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► was like oh there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► different caterer it'll be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► different munch some people send this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► like pictures of lunches then the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► Convention Center look very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► but whatever powerful force is behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► WWDC lunch presentation like big plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► whatever it was basically the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► container that you know and love clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► boxes three little you know hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► tray sections one for your main course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► one for your side dish one for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► dessert that was still in effect so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► I saw those things all rolled out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► oh well these lunches are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► be radically different than the old ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► and sure enough they weren't regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► different and for the first day lunch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► think what I had was I know some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► so a reasonable default choice and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► mostly impressed with how like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► they heard our last episode where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► talked about this about the mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► sizes the mistery side dishes that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► just unidentifiable and the desserts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► that are weird tis like style side dish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► yeah the side dish was identifiable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► what it was but I think was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► macaroni salad but it was not weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► had like unknown vegetable matter in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► and tasted different than it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► it wasn't good mind you like the pasta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► or whatever in the pasta salad was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► mush right it was bad but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► looked at it you say I know how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► going to taste and you put in your mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► like and regretfully you are correct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► know and the dessert I think on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7717">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► first day was a cookie and like hey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► it wasn't like a cookie that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► secretly something different it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► straight up whatever was chunks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► cookie or oatmeal cookie or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► again wasn't a good cookie but it tasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► for making those two sections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7734">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► container reflect their appearance in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7736">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► a sane way and the sandwich so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► day one to sandwich I'm like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► a good sandwich particularly the bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► which I can most terribly described as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► dark-colored hotdog bun like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► this is not good bread but whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► that once okay see you can go on to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► two did you get food poisoning from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► shrimp no no I did not my knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► anyway did you get to take one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► packages that was outside in the Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► yeah but I was like one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► people out there so I mean it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► cold like I'm not too worried about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► all right things did take a turn on day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► two however on day two I think I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► back outside I don't recall for sure all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► of that unit is why the day well it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► this is the only other significant story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► and then my stories are basically done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► but on day two I went I grabbed my lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► and the I forget what the options were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► but one of the options were a BLT a or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► blatte or whatever Californians call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► so bacon lettuce tomato and avocado [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7797">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► because hashtag California and it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► a rap because hashtag California it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► tasty however I don't recall ever having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► seen any avocado anywhere inside of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► rap or even adjacent to that rap but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► was very tasty I was actually quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► enjoying it and I was feeling pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► good about this food situation I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► yeah the odd wall is still annoying but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► yeah I've got my diet coke so I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► win there two meals in a row pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► tasty halfway through the meal and god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► wish I remember if I was eating with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► halfway through the meal I look down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► there's a blue thing inside of my wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► this wrap did not contain any other blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► objects yet blue is on a common color in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► food I look down and I pull out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:50 ◼ ► blue thing and I'm pretty sure it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7850">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► piece of glove of the person that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► preparing my wrap okay and and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7857">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► wrap apparently whoever was preparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► they lose a section of their glove but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► they didn't think it was worth bothering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► to go and find it again you can complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► that's true that's the other class like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► it when if whatever you know presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:20 ◼ ► there there's a piece of glove because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7880">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► they probably slice it off with a knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► so the question is how deep of that cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► go who knows but I did finish my rap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► it was very tasty oh my god so at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► I have many questions here well let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► do my own through my rest of the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► summary is that that's the end of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► story always anyway then is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► sandwich in the world that is improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:41 ◼ ► by being in a rap instead of umbrella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7901">TS</a>]
02:11:44 ◼ ► where we've discussed Rams before and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7904">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► think I like where I came down and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:47 ◼ ► previous thing is like I've tried them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7907">TS</a>]
02:11:50 ◼ ► I've gone back from several times but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7910">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► general f raps like like I've regretted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► it every time and I saw the raps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► were there and I saw the one that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► talking about Casey Mike oh that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► like it might be an interesting combo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► but I I just can't I just can't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► raps like they just like so they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:10 ◼ ► concretize solid with just this pasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7930">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► starch on the outside I think raps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► be done well but they are never done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► well WWC in that trend continues I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:20 ◼ ► a real question real quick question john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7940">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► syracuse of rap sandwich or not um did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:27 ◼ ► we do that on the show I try not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► contradict myself I had to run it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► through the machine I'm gonna say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► okay basically I will say no but I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► to summarize the rest of my WC lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► experience so the staging was an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► like it was cool they had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► outdoor seating we haven't really talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► about the weather that much but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:47 ◼ ► were some days where was actually hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7967">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► containers out in the hot Sun if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► just can't one day I decided to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► salad I thought I had just gotten there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► like Casey like oh I get there early the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7977">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► food still cold apparently that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:00 ◼ ► had been staged there longer than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7980">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► thought my salad was hot hot salad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► not good salads do not respond well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► greenhouse container it was all wilted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► and gross and terrible here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► that that occurred to me as I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► through the week of having lunches and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► had that lunch every single day and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► by day three it became clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► apparently the only non rap bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► offered by this catering company is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► sandwich was in that hot dog bun there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:32 ◼ ► was no escaping it eventually it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8012">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► like you are telling me that's why I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► the salad was like you're telling me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► to get a sandwich this is gonna be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► like maybe different shades of hotdog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► bun but it was just terrible like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► like it was making me consider raps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► that's where I'm getting I'm like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► at least the rap will be have some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► solidity than this this puffy air thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► that that hotdog bun destroyed every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8032">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► sandwich that they put it in the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► sometimes weren't that bad like vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8037">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► passable lunch made tomatoes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► it was soggy about 50% of the time which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► is above average for WWDC normally soggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:09 ◼ ► about 75% of the time I did have a dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8049">TS</a>]
02:14:11 ◼ ► hotdog bun a couple of occasions which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8051">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► was novel side the side dishes always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► the side dishes always were explicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► the cookies were always not very good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► think it was like a brownie or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:24 ◼ ► like I have to say because of the hotdog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8064">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► bun and the explicable sides and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► diminished breakfasts I started to miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► the mystery sides from San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► visit Lisa then interested everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► you never know what the hell crazy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:38 ◼ ► you were going to get it was almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8078">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► those like magic like the like taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► berry things at all to your taste for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► your tongue and everything tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:44 ◼ ► weirdly enough that's how trying every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8084">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► side thing at Moscone was like you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► it had there was no connection to how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► looked versus how it tasted it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► always kind of a fun surprise and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:55 ◼ ► try to identify the ingredients in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8095">TS</a>]
02:14:56 ◼ ► like what what is it that I'm even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8096">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► eating it so these were all explicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8098">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► and like because the bread was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:01 ◼ ► every time like there was no there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► no variety was it was like being in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► being in prison like they just every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► smushy side dish wilted salad and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► of course raps but f raps so overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:17 ◼ ► I'm gonna have to give the San Jose food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8117">TS</a>]
02:15:21 ◼ ► like it's kind of like his movies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8121">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► you know the good bad movie and the flop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► house parlance where this was not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► bad this is bad bad bad bad lunch let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► see that's funny because leaving aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► seemed to tip of a human finger I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► actually thought the ones you're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► good sides that is by an optical do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:39 ◼ ► ever eat lunch yeah I think we maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8139">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► maybe the very first day we did but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► didn't discuss it I we should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► discussed lunches lishus or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► I've you should have given me some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► your say what what is this food you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► think is is good what you sure there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► not one out for me and then we could all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► have true and actually try them together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► no they wouldn't have survived I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8154">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► it would you like it would become a pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► of liquid yeah you get like my faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► away from the conference center that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► not the structural integrity is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► high actually thank you for not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrkntE/8164">TS</a>]