00:00:02 ◼ ► options ever choose to eat a box lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► otherwise it wouldn't be a marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► executive box launch 17-year olds don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► read Seventeen magazine and on and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► aspirational I don't think executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► have any form of lunch that comes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► box they should call it executives sack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► lunch like there there's literally there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► is nothing they could put in that box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► reasonable just filled with caviar sack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► lunch the famous movie from Seinfeld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► to begin with follow up today friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► the show Daniel jacket has spent what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► seemed to be a surprising amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/46">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► doing research on Mosconi lunches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► I'm glad that Daniel did it so we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► lunches we'll put a link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► notes there's a few highlights that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► wanted to call everyone's attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► the quote executive box lunch quote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/62">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► $39.25 in the year 2017 according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/68">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► executive box lunch I am not kidding I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► mean in all fairness Craig federighi was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► allegedly eating one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► backstage before talk show live and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► is an executive and so therefore I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► that's aptly named but I tell you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► thing when all of us are getting it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► the big dining hall I sure don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► like an executive no seems like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► well it's not keep going case it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/96">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► it's not $39.00 does not include all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► the pricing and options included in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► special Porsha lunch if you want formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/102">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► continuing on this is the description of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► the executive box launch which Daniel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► dub-dub in and it sounds the same to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► so the description is as follows for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► compartment includes compostable service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► because California 25 guest minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► sandwich wrapper entree salad includes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► choice of side salad dessert and fruit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► to accompany your box lunches we suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► adding assorted soft drinks and bottled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► drink some bottled water soft drinks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/134">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► water are not included a 22% service fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► as well as sales tax which is almost 10% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► are also added to the price so that $39 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► and 25 cents box box lunch comes out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► around $52 and you haven't had anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► to drink yet your and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► Daniel writing want to really lose your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► each bottled water is $5.25 coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► $7.00 after service and taxes and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► is again still Daniel and Markos long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► lost strawberry Seamonsters add Walla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► which is probably classified as assorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/163">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► additional eight dollars a bottle add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► all up and it's not hard to imagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► meals and snacks are coming to $100 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► day or $500 a week per person nearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► third of the $1600 WWDC admission fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► likely pays for food are you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/181">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► with this garbage moving on I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► how the people who do it in San Jose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► how their box lunches compare but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► good news is the quote gourmet box lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► from the caterers in San Jose comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► at only $22 middle mineral waters soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► drinks juices in bottled water are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/204">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► mere four dollars and fifty cents each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► so a considerable savings once they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► to San Jose on lunches alone how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► spend one spend $500 a week on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► lunches like I was sitting here mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► defending them the last couple episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► they're not that bad you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► passable they work not at $500 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► week are you friggin kidding me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► this insanity no no no hard pass no so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► if they drop the price of the tickets by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► $500 like this back to the people and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► all had to leave the building and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► someplace else to eat and to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► I'm actually not sure that that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► better for the conference you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► just give me that 500 bucks I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► spend that in San Francisco but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► gotta go find someplace to eat and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► not sure the eateries that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► to and back to the conference center in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► time to get the after lunch sessions can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► support that many people or are any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► better so oh no they're better but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► probably can't support the people you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/264">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► probably right about that but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► whatever that little mall thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► over there and I mean give me the mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► food court is better than the but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► better but you gotta wait in these long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► lines and then you get your thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► you gotta fight somebody then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► possible choice I'm I'm wondering I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► would actually mostly be willing to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► for the convenience of not having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► leave the the conference center while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► eating lunches that I don't really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► because that convenience is what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► and obviously the ideal choice would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► to be able to get from someplace else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► but as Daniel points out that is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► their rules you can't get food many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► files in case it wasn't clear yeah there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► is no choice Apple can't say oh we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► just gonna we're going to bring in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► know someone else Decatur nope not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► even an option it's just insanity to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► like how they can get fleeced that badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► it's not apples fault it's just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► of the world but oh my goodness it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► just barbaric that that's the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► well the way of the world in Apple Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► world is like if Apple this bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► Apple all that much just by Moscone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you I saw it tweet as I was catching up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► on my far behind in Twitter someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► saying that uh with its cash Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► buy all of the the Major League Baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► NFL and NHL teams and still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► hundred billion dollars left over is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/348">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► actually that person and was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► actually that doesn't account for taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► but still the point stands like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/357">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► alright let's talk about a next iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► rumors we talked to the past that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► may be a touch ID bottom a button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► back of the phone which some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► think is the end of times a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► people like myself think man whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► but somebody a couple people actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► pointed out well what does this mean for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the home button then because a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► button on the back does not seem good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► how does that work and I don't know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► the answer but I would guess that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► is some sort of home button even a foe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► home button on the chin of the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► the phone I think that's what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► the path of which with the immobile or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► looking for is home button on the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► 7 and maybe the whole thing becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► home button I'm not really sure but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► certainly an interesting point I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► considered that you know today touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/413">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► co-located but in the future maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► won't be so John what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► this yeah I think they they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► separate because it is more awkward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► press a button on the back of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► even a fake like non button I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► can have it there in addition I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► who's again it doesn't move it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► if they they have to make room for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► kind of mechanism and it's already going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► to be this little cutout area but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► think they will continue to have a helm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► button on the front of the phone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► whether that home button is virtual kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► of like the touch bar where it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► something like that there's lots of Bend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/448">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► separate accessory screen controlled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► the OS and you know accessible perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► accessible to applications through an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► Android soft buttons and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► might be a thing that would appear on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► phone but even if that is doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► at all the idea of there being a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/470">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► you could squeeze the bottom part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/475">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► your phone to go home like whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► can want to consider that a button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► especially if it's completely embedded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► in the screen and there is no it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► a flat featureless piece of glass with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► no little cut out a circle or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► we're still going to call that the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► button and I'm thinking that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► going to get rid of that no matter where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► the touch woody Sentra goes so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► basically a divorce of home button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► touch ID where the home button can stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► on the front but because of the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► of the way it's done in the edge to edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► screen and everything the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► sensor goes on the back and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► squeeze the bottom of our phones and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► think I would mostly be okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► too like an up to see have to try it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► a while to see if I miss the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► indented circle a lot of listeners wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► indented circle as a way to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► which end of your phone is up or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► exactly where you have to squeeze but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► you can squeeze anywhere along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► bottom edge of the phone I guess then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► your only problem is if you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► thing upside down but I suppose you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/526">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► the Lightning port to check whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/527">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► all of these rumors about the next phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► surround like actual important physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/537">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► changes to the exterior of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► because all the past phones including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► generations where it's kind of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► on the outside had been about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► does it look like and what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/553">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► materials but the design of it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/554">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► know a rectangle with a circle button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► the bottom that you press in to go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► and I guess the addition of touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► have been so constant this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► phone that's like that the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► this phone is it maybe differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► shaped differently proportioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► functionality on it may be moving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► in ways that has never moved around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► before so that's that's kind of exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► and you know kind of also a risky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/578">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► that like they have a model that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► here with this rectangle with the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► iterated and integrating refined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► iterated and at but base the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► functions and stuff have been the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► aside from you know a case you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► the last show that the power button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► moved to the side which is somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► Explo by the increasing size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► phone and difficulty people would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► reaching elapsed that's not but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/600">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► than that the phone design of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► has been pretty cocky on the headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► that headphone jack moving from top to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► bottom but the the physical design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► the phone has been pretty constant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► I'm kind of excited to see them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► say all bets are off we're moving things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► around and we're going to try something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► new so I actually had a chance to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► with the Galaxy s8 a couple days ago in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► with the exception of it feelin too way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► too tall for its width and it being hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► to reach things as a result I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► really enjoyed like that how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► the general like look of the edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► edge on the sides screen and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► and the way to the home button I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► touched the lower area where the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► button would be on an iPhone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► turns out that's exactly what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► you to do and it just clicked and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► recognized any firm press in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► as a home button click and so the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► first thing I tried worked and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► correct and then as I was playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► it over a few minute that I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► here and there a few more times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► every time it just worked exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► something on screen there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► something from the foreground app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► is in that spot that you know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/664">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► misinterprets it as a touch it would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► every time it interpreted it correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and it was great it was totally fine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► you know if Apple's going to go in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► direction like that where part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► screen just becomes the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► I think they totally can we've seen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► the iPhone 7 force touch button that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► possibility that's totally fine and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► actually really does work the only major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► question I would have for it is how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► they show this to people like how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► how is it handled in the in the UI does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► the usable area of the screen for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► actually extend that far like it does on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► the s8 or is there a little like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► know reserved or like you were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► join like maybe like a touch bar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► you know API area down there where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► you know apps would only actually take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► up like the middle 80% of the height and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► you know maybe not the very top bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► or something like that you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► anyway that you know having having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► just bottom area of the screen except a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► firm touch as a home button that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► just fine I was going to ask if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► are any accessibility implications for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► that but I would suppose with that um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► figure what you call it but we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► about it a lot like several months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► where you have little on-screen button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► that lets you do the home button in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► in all sorts of other gestures what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► what's the name of the thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► what I'm thinking assistive touch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/740">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► think yeah is to touch something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► that thank you I was about to ask you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► this an accessibility issue but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► suppose assistive touch would fix any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► those problems I'm not sure but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► change well the the issue would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/753">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► you could no longer feel the button like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► kids you know now you can feel that ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► you know so it's like Java say more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► easily tell like which direction the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► phone is oriented without without like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► physical depression on the front surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► where the home button goes it's harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► to tell which ways up by feel alone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► that that would be an issue for sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► don't know how they would solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► maybe you just start getting used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► feeling for like the camera bump or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► other features in the outside I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► know if it is a dedicated area they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► could do haptics to make it do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/781">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► tiniest little jiggle when your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► is over the reserved bottom section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► the phone like there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/789">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► things they can do that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► playing playing switch games with it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► little it's been a couple articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► recently about the the haptic engine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► the Nintendo switch which is looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► apples been using its phones what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► something-or-other or whatever but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► it's better than the old vibrators and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/806">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► more precise and they're using it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► games to make it feel like things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► presence and it's surprisingly easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► fool us I mean just we just talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► doesn't feel like a button but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► like a thing that we rapidly get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► and come to accept as the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► reality of the phone right and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► think the best thing would be like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/829">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► you could turn off I mean I suppose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► can't isn't there some way you to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► off vibration can you turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► haptic engine entirely I would assume so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► but I don't know yeah but anyway if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► did turn off our devices would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► broken in a different way please like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► this is not how my glass rectangle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► supposed to move or feel so adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► something like oh when when your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► finger physically touches the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► bottom part of the phone it gives the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► the tiniest little jiggle and that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► be a physical way for you to feel with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► your hands which side is the top or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► bottom of my phone it wouldn't activate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► actually pressed but basically when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► feeling for that little circle you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► to know which side is up you need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► information you need at where I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► provided physically that little circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► is about as subtle as the little jiggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► could be and once you find which side is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► up if the whole bottom of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► functions is one giant button it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► easier to hit than that little circle so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► that that problem is solved so real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► follow-up to turn off system haptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► switch has a subtitle of play haptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► for system controls interactions that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► in setting sounds and haptics and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► there's options for vibrate on ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► vibrate on silent sound in vibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/895">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► patterns and all the way at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► is system haptic switch is a switch yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► now does that turn off the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► just switch them on find out no the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► button still does I have to click yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► presume because it would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► really eerie if it didn't feel it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► feel broken I mean to us if were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► used to it it's like it's whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► doesn't it's not the same physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► device anymore right that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► about haptic like though it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► faking a physical must this is it gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► lot to my pet peeves that my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► things being done in hardware on video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► cards which is like now and increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► drives me nuts because you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/936">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► I can do that do you remember when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► used to have the ones that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/944">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► like shine it looked like laser like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► laser keyboard but it wasn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► lasers I'm sure yeah and how did you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► and how did you use those keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► gazing uh you put your fingers on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► surah you take your finger and you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► it you mean you take a no no no missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► the point you're just shining light on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► surface say like on a desktop no John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► saying your fingers the Machine I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► what thing you're talking about but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► can't activate it with your mind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► have to physically move your hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► press them into certain areas you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► the press but you have to place your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► fingers into the zone where the keys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► that is a physical act the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► itself is not moving John wait so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► when when a conductor waves the stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/983">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► considered a mechanical device you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► yeah I I would say I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► difficult to say when you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► mechanical because it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► light is just being emitted naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► from the desktop we need an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► mechanical or not this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► definitely a pretty broad definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► mechanical that you're using huge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► yeah when people talk about really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► the context I'm saying people talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► about chemical keyboards they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► saying as compared to the keyboard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► I'm sitting in front of which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► Apple aluminum extended which is 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► mechanical the keys move at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► making contact for the thing that causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► a signal but it's not a quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► mechanical keyboard it's a it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► strange interpretation can i nitpick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► your definition of 100% mechanical yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► what part of it is a mechanical I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► pretty sure there's like there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► USB controller in there and I'm like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► I mean the keyboard part of it means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► same thing with mechanical keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► when you're just activating a switch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► electronic it's not like it's steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► power it's like a typewriter where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► you're hitting a lever that's causing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► big thing to whack into a piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► that makes you a key Jason Snell can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► can you fix this for us so we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► to do I know a pebble mean when they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► mechanical keyboards is just a silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► phrase like it is it is a term that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► taken on this alternate meaning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► doesn't really make sense if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► about it but it is accepted as a term of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► art so we all just say it and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► help me Jason Snell you're my only hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► but what what I was getting at before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► do wrap myself that reference was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► but the the idea that that haptics are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► replacement for things like the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► home button right when they're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► know they they work by doing a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► thing something in your phone is moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► causing you to feel that motion it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► just an entirely different motion than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► the surface that you pressed moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► downwards relative this to the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► surrounding it but something is moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► and it is and you are feeling it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► physical sensation so it is an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► physical actions is not the removal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► like physical buttons with non physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► buttons because I would say the iPhone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► button is still a physical button when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► haptics are turned on because you press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► as a physical action and you tell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► your press has been registered or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► successful because you feel a response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► the response is not your finger getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► lower inside the thing but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► non-physical controls as haptics get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► mechanical keyboards it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► that's the way we'll describe it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► know we won't bother thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► but it is a clever way to make a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► more reliable while still doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► thing that works best with humans we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► have you know hands and fingers that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► sensitive and you know they're sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► to motion it's a good way to tell how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► things are happening without looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► them so you can put feel in your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► or Sokol you know physical buttons as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► opposed to those on physical ones I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► feel what the volume controls are I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► feel what the power button is I can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► where the home button is I can feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► it has been activated I can physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► press it all that stuff plays to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► strengths of our hands and fingers which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► anything Apple does related to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► wise to to leverage those abilities in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► the same way the touch bar tries to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► that but because it has no haptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► you're left with kind of a surface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► you have to look at more than you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► otherwise and you can press on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► it's more like a touchscreen in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► doesn't do anything when you press any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► of those things which is another reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1198">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► a lot of people have difficulties with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► touch bar is that it is replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► that is less button like whereas I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► like the iPhone 7 home button replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► the button with something that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► like an alternate take on a button but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► it is you know it's like it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► replace the function keys on the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► with the screen from the iPhone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► screen is not the same kind of a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► because they don't know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► buttons are going to be but on the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► bar seems like you could know they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► kind of you know anyway this is just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► mild musings on haptics but I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► are long-term I think there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► this whole haptic thing I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► as Apple has been so excited and proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► to show it's a little you know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► better the vibration is in each phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► and this haptic engine that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► branded with this taptic stuff I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► they're actually onto something there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► think we'll just see more and more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► that from Apple and other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► because it works with humans but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► could be apples slogan since they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► doing the computer with the rest of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► anymore competing with the rest of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► anymore it works with humans TM we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► sponsored this week by Kasper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► obsessively engineered mattress at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► shockingly fair price go to Casper comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► slash ATP and use code ATP for $50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► towards your mattress Kasper created one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► perfect mattress and they sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► directly to consumers which eliminates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► Commission driven inflated prices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► award-winning Casper mattress was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► developed in house as a sleek design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► is delivered in a surprisingly small box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► staircase if you have narrow stairs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► they also offer adaptive pillow and soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► breathable sheets and the mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► industry has been full of notoriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► revolutionized it by cutting the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► dealing with all these resellers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► showrooms and passing the savings to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the in-house team of engineers spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► thousands of hours developing the Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► mattress with supportive memory foams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► for a sleep service with just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► sink and just the right balance and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► breathable design sleep school to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► you regulate your temperature throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► the night and they've made buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► mattresses online which sounds kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► crazy completely easy and risk-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► here's how they do it they offer free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► delivery in a wonderful box and free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► returns within a hundred night home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► trial so you can just sleep on it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► over three months and if you don't love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► at your house and give you a full refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► it's that easy they understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► importance of truly sleeping on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► mattress before you commit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► you're going to be spending a third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► your life on it now we've heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► friends listeners who've all had great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► things to say about the Casper mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► Time magazine even named it one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► best inventions of the year when it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► out so get yours today and try it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► hundred nights in your own home with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► free delivery and free returns with home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► pickup completely all risk free go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► Casper comm slash ATP and use code ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► for $50 towards your mattress thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► very much to Casper for sponsoring our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► show ah let's talk about a wiki Tribune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► of which I know basically nothing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► am failing at my job as chief summarizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► in chief so Marco I feel like I saw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► tweeting about this when it first broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► do you want to kind of fill us in as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► what wiki Tribune is about honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► barely know I just signed up because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► wanted to support this cause so John can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► you give a better summary than that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► can this has been a no no it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► three weeks people but I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► one place we can start is Marco with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► lack of knowledge why did you decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► sign up for the what did you do by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► signing up did you did you like have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► give money or pledge to give money like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► what what it was the signup thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► you did it's some kind of like pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► commitment type system like Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► but like I don't think they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► charge me until they hit their minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► or unless they hit their own in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► something like that but is a money thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► like yours you're supporting this effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► with money right yeah I signed up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► making monthly donation or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► is - all right so what led you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► that well basically there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► things about journalism these days that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► I think are really dysfunctional or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► broken and this seems like it could fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► some of them not all of them you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► don't think it's probably possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► fix all of them but this could fix some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► of them in a fairly big way so if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► if not you know I I lost a little buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► on the way and then I'll stop losing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► when I cancel it that's it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► seems like a good cause I feel like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► of the Wikipedia donation prompts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► think that I've ignored over the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► closed for the year is about giving I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► feel like maybe I owe something to Jimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► Wales's causes so here here I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► finally make that good I guess so to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► back and give a vague summary of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► that this thing is it is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► Wikipedia guy you've seen his face the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► top of Wikipedia asking for money now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► you can see his face on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► website asking you for money for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► different thing so it has the pedigree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► tremendously successful community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► platform for doing whatever is people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► on Wikipedia and this is about trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► make the news better like Marco satis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► complaints about news and the incentive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► structures and how doesn't lead to good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► information being disseminated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► there's lots of all anti patterns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► with how its funded and what gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► published and how its published and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► versus what people want to read and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► know what sells ads and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► forth so this is a sort of Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► style approach to news where it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► open and transparent so you everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► who's reading can see what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► there's no ads so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► worry about the entire thing being made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► to you know to drive ad views which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► problem in the web in general not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► sun news and everything like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► like wikipedia is community oriented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► where it's not just like these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► produce the content and the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► world reads it everybody participates in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► in theory making the things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► journalists involved as well so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► just like hey make up whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► and publish whatever you want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► that's just called the web that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► that's not and trying to you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► transparent to the people who are giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► money like a you know how are they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► to fund all this through people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► Marco same way Wikipedia is funded how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► does Wikipedia exist Jimmy Wales head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► ask you for money every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► investors or stuff like that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► have this kind of Venn diagram at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► top where it shows three circles and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► three circles our community facts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► journalists and wiki wiki Tribune is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► confusing diamond-shaped intersection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► all three of those circles own when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► see the intersection between three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► circles I don't get a diamond shape but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► it's a logo that's some creative license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► there it's fine yeah and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► Markos explanation of why he gave money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► is is probably a lot of people gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► money it's like or you know because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► is like Kickstarter it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► you you pledge money and if everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► goes well you will get charged for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► money or whatever no probably will this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► is very popular but it seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► small amount and just like a Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► you're like I don't know if they'll ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► shut this damn cooler but it will cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► spoiler alert like it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► like if they never go anywhere or if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► fund it for a few months and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► that good whatever but I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► an appetite for an attempt to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► solution to the fix all of you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► journalism finds itself in at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► moment in transition between the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► world of newspapers and the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► they were funded and the barriers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► entry in this new world where it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► easier for more people to publish but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► it's much harder to find ways to fund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► content that isn't sort of lowest common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► denominator you know because people go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► what people want to read and what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► it we would be most beneficial to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► society that if people were to read are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► two very different things and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► you know the incentives are not aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► if the only way you can get money is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► attracting people to read things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► will inevitably end up giving people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► what they want which is not always what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► they need which is a paternalistic view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► that people hate like oh the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► the ivory tower can determine what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► need to see why can't people just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► what they need to see there's a balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► like I mean even even in the battle days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► of my childhood when there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► internet there were things called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► tabloids that provided you same stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► something that stuff is like oh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► didn't exist before the Internet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► course it did like you know batboy found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► the National Enquirer like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► aliens are everywhere right that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► has always and will always exist and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► not even sure if it's any more prevalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► than it is today the difference today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► that the sort of slow motion decline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► the ivory tower we know it's best for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► you were to apply a bunch of reasoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► rules that you don't know about or agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► with to try to provide what we think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► you know the news that's fit to print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► and that has been in slow decline mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► rightfully so because it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► concentration of power that is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► technological barriers to distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► information causing you to exist but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► would also say that in this new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► information a lot of people like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and and me and I would imagine Casey are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► less satisfied with how things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► now that we want to go back at the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► different set of ways but there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► are pathologies in the new structure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► news that we wish we could get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► it's like you know we all want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► really good high-quality you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► journalism according to the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► system of journalism is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► something that most of us can agree upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► kind of like scientific method it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► the question of it is a you know how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► it executed by fallible humans and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► do we provide the resources for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► executed and that's what this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► trying to provide now my my personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► institution depending on how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► phrase it gave it caused me to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► little snarky chuckle when I saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► it's like community journalists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► facts where I don't need to give me well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► so like oh oh now you care about facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► Jimmy rails I thought it was just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► about verified villainy wait a sec it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and maybe they don't mean facts maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► they actually mean verifiability but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► that's the thing about journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► journalism you know like they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► pursuing the truth of what happened it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► not enough for a journalist to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► know is what you know one thing is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► reporters to say let me just tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► what somebody said but journalists tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► to uncover the truth if they can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► out what really happened by talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► more people and gathering evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► that's part of journalism too and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► journalist is not going to call it a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► prominent people about what happened the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► journalists would like to know yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► would really happen right I know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► quotes are verifiable I know you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► and this other paper publish this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► but what really happened what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► facts and that is an important part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► journalism that is not an important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► of Wikipedia is what community doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► care what the hell the facts are because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► that's not what it is this tertiary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► source I don't want to go off on my rant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► about Wikipedia again so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► exciting to see this taking a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► slant on things but as I scroll down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► journalists and commute and community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► cooperating all I can think about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► like this is like a battle arena for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► distilled because if you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► edit wars on the Wikipedia page for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► know insert favorite controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► political figure can you imagine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► the Edit wars will be like on literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► any actual current event news story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► the current political climate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► there's almost nothing you can put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► there you know articles being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► fact checked and verified by journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► and community community members working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► side by side as equals and I just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► picture a giant arena with like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► with boards with nails sticking out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► them like I don't I'm not sure how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► can work and you say well look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► Wikipedia it works yeah I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► know that that's the biggest example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► like Wikipedia has the same issue you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► know any any kind of you know political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► topic also has a Wikipedia page and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► you know they've built systems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► policies and norms up around controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that problem there too and so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► think if you I think if anybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► shown that they have the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► manage that part of this it's the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► who made Wikipedia and and who built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► that whole community up so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► I'm actually not concerned about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► whole edit war problem I also do I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► don't really go to the graffiti is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► counterexample there's like no the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► that so many pages on Wikipedia are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► incredibly locked down because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► Edit horrors almost to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► they become frozen in time which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► of ok for historical things but for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► pages that are ongoing they become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► sole domain of a very small number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► people who have even the ability to edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► page and everybody else is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► locked out and yet still they have edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► wars and arguments about what goes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► like if not you can't do journalism in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► information on their topics and B do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► terrible job of staying up to date and C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► community because they have to be walled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► off they have to be cemented set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► ossified I think the best pages on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► Wikipedia are the pages that few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► care about but you know the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► example of being like lists of Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► because oh I'll go K no one know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► maybe they're already wars in Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► sorry if I'm big but like but pages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► are on more obscure topics because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► only people who edit and contribute to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► them are the people who really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► interested in the topic no one cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► enough to vandalize it or edit them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► no one is there telling them what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► can and can't add and especially if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► don't have any kind of political or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► factional angle again Pokemon may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► great example they end up being filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► with all sorts of interesting and useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► information whereas the stories in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► topic that has any controversial at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► part of it that's controversial you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► better off just scrolling to the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► looking all the references and reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► all those than actually reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► Wikipedia page so I mean I get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► you're saying about they have systems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► place but I think the system's negate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► the advantages they're trying to do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► just fly every Wikipedia because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► page on Wikipedia is not a super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► controversial page in fact very few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► them are so the vast majority wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► is awesome when you just want to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► quick plot synopsis of a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► episode of Doctor Who in a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► season that's on Wikipedia and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► find it quickly and the webpage won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► gross or filled with ads and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► reliable source for that because no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► cares enough about to screw with it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► as reliable as any source could be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► when you go to any page having to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► with any controversial topic I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► like when's the last time you read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► Wikipedia page and a controversial topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► like I don't I don't even bother going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► to them anymore like I would again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► rather just scroll right down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► references and read the you know primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► and secondary sources than this dystocia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► Airy summary because it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► doesn't speak to me as a as a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► source of information well I mean keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► in mind that you know these days every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► fact is a controversial topic even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► those days of things that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► think wouldn't be and also that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► wiki Tribune is is I think largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► probably not going to have this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► because it's probably not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that big of a deal if it does become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► big deal if it does actually start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► attracting large amounts of traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► then I think it will rise to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► levels of you know these kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► challenges that Wikipedia has because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► Wikipedia has been you know such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► massive you know traffic getter for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► long so you know it's ranked so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► everywhere but like wiki Tribune is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► starting from zero it's starting from no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► audience basically so it might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► while before you had enough people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► matter and honestly I disagree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► something like this could be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► dealing with controversial things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► that you know it's it's a hard problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► but but the bar it depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► contrary I mean use the main controversy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► I haven't use Wikipedia controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► pages is the idea that the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► controversial pages themselves tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► be homogeneous and have various biases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► let's say yeah that's a private and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► the system itself has no way to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► with that like that it concentrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► power like I like I'm thinking of wiki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► Tribune as perhaps an unintentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► backdoor way to get people to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► straight up pay for news which many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► people the front-door way has been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► hey sign up for the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► digital like can we can we make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► from people paying us to read our web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► pages everyone's been trying to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► it's really difficult the whole paywall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► thing right wiki Tribune is like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► open and free to everybody man fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► forward five years if they get super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► popular and they lock everything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► and eventually it's like wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► professional journals do things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► people pay them and it's not a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► community published thing it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► bunch of articles that nobody can add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► picks every single story about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► president is super duper controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and every one of them is super lock down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► the only people get edited of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► professional journalists who get money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► from the contributors and the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► people who all happen to be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► type of person with the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► inclination to spend all day on a wiki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► Tribune and now it is just a weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► organized newspaper that you'll pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► which wouldn't be the end of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► because again that's things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► have been looking for hey can we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► people to pay money to support News like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► as opposed to wanting everything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► free and wanting every article to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► know a click Beatty tabloid e celebrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► news kind of thing I guess if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► that they're kind of a success but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► have a hard time envisioning a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► or they are wildly successful and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► still still even open to the degree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► Wikipedia pretty much everything a news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► organization will report will attract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► factions okay like like you said Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► they could report on the weather and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► people will yeah well we'll leave nasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► comments about you know climate denial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► so that you know like that I can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► of a top there's not even a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► interest story if I try to put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► about dogs and people won't like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► nothing is safe in this climate so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► have their work cut out for them but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► this said I don't feel like I'm slamming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► would be on the potential what it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► I didn't donate any money but I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► them well because I also like Marco want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► somebody to address this problem and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► one has it tried this proach no one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► approach so we're not going to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► if it works unless somebody does it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► so I'm like alright you know go forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► like I certainly the fact that facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► with a little arrow is a big circle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► the middle makes me happy by all means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► go for that the other aspect of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► say they succeed in producing what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► say they're going to produce and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► system produces good content do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► like is that something people want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► I want to go to wiki Tribune because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► they have they got their facts straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► I mean everyone wants a non-partisan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► news source right now they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► everyone wants to hear their own their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► own biases reflected to them and repairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► people want like I said something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► how do they get people to come and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► this like it was easier when you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► had a few choices and all those choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► had you know had systems in place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► constrained what could be talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► which perpetuated you know tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► systems of power in terms of whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► stories got to get told with what angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► on them so it was terrible in many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► ways but the good aspects of it were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► the areas where the system wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► completely aligned against hearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► things that you know that we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► supposed to hear about there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► expectation that for example the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► separated from each other in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► suppose they work based on and that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► works if the news department isn't isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► responsible for bringing in more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► if year after year after year and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► ship is long sailed so now it's like got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► to make more money got to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► viewers how do we do that tell them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► they want to hear and the cyclist goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► around around that's what this is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► to resolve so say it resolves it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► they make real quality news but no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► ever comes and reads it they still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► maybe I don't I think I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► this could be very popular because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► think somebody like that the two of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► guys and myself somebody like us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► wants to be informed but wants a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► level-headed take as to what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► I think this is a potentially pert well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► maybe not perfect but a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► answer to that need I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► that I shouldn't have said everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► wants this because a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► probably don't want this but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► think there's a lot of people that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► level-headed take on things that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► for example in my RSS reader that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► rarely look at anymore my source of news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► is the BBC because I have the BBC's us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► coverage and I feel like that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► least politically motivated news source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► that I can find I don't need to hear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► better ones I don't really care if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► BBC is imperfect that's I'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► to start a fight here oh they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► they're just reinforcing your biases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► that's why you like them if it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► very well could be that's what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► that's the situation I think we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► ourselves in wait wait what if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► biases are true in fact I'll say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► the idea here's the problem with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► polarized marketplace is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► things don't exist in isolation say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► there was a news source that would did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► really good job but did a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► job of executing journalism classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► journalism the rule of journalism which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► you know like the traditional rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► journalism in terms of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► supposed to do as a reporter and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► your job is and isn't all separate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► you know editorial and opinion which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► a whole separate thing but just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► plain straight up journalism reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► function deciding what should and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► shouldn't you cover how many stories in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► the source and topic could be how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► how many stories about this aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► whatever like it's impossible to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► yourself entirely away from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► it's also impossible to think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► your publication is doing in isolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► publications and a lot of the ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► is defined by how many people read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► you know watch or whatever consumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► these different publications and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► environment that's why you see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► like you know people on our side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► world liberals or whatever being drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► publications because they see it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► only possible way to counterbalance the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► things leaning in the other direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► because we know those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► leaning the other direction exist we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► know what we all think they're terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and we know tons and tons of people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► them as their exclusive source of news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and so by providing it a neutral thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► it's like well that's all well and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► if we just want to know what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► but if we want to balance the scales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► that we have to have a left-leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► publication and eventually like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► to read the left-leaning thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► all I hear all day from you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► who I disagree with is them citing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► they're super duper right-leaning things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► and so don't lean and that's how you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► left-wing super duper right-leaning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► so I I don't feel like I want that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► tried to find something that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► in the middle but like Casey with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► BBC I'm sure what I think is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► middle is not actually in the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► really what I'm seeking is some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► some it's not in the execution of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► journalism but in the choice of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► they're reporting about right or in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► choice of like you know what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► editorials are about and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► apportion their coverage because that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► itself is is a political stance right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► when I read the Washington Post I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► like here's good reporting here they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► still executing journalism according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► the old ways but what the Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► Post decides to cover is decidedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► left-leaning in terms of the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► stories on topic ABC and D right and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► okay with that but I would still you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► Washington Post and even the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► Times are examples of good executions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► but I would also agree that both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► are quote unquote left-leaning as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► compared to the choices of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► publications choose to cover and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► they're a counterbalance right so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► there was something was really straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► up the middle I'm not sure that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► especially if the two polar polarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► ends continue to be what they are unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► everybody at the ends it kind of agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► like like the wikipedia wicked tribune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► is like the tiebreaker right and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► marco pointed out before and we'll keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► going back to that is impossible in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► world where we can't agree on the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► there is no it's like well we have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► have you know the this left-leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► editorial selection and we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► right reading editorial selection but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► all agree that the facts of water and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► keep your being right and be like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► the right will say we don't agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► facts at all and so what function is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► what you tribune even serving there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► unless it starts getting cited by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► newspapers which would be funny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► we'll see I mean at this point there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► people actually arguing whether to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► people die in our country who were sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► once because they don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► money and they should therefore die that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► is that is literally what we are arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► I like the better in the 80s when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► have like sophisticated sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► ideological arguments but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► abandoned those now it's just like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► should you get to live like good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► they're evil person why should I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► live what right do I have to life or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► liberty or any kind of you know looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► for happiness that sounds crazy to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► yeah I mean it was your fault that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► got you know sick when you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► teenager or something so therefore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► obviously be death right I should try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► look like a child living right Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► here I think of that yeah I mean look we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► all did it right why can't you yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► know the Jimmy Kimmel son did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► watch that that monologue hoodie days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► ago I heard enough about it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► couldn't watch it I so I saw it fly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► I've been doing a couch to 5k lately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and during one of the walking parts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► was like you know cruising through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► Twitter as I was power walking probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► but be that as it may whatever day was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► earning onto my you know my world and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► watched it or listen to it I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► I didn't watch any of it I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► it as I was like going between walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► and running and walking and running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► basically I was on the verge of balling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► the entire time but if you're one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► those monsters that thinks that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► pre-existing condition is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► disqualify you that's cool um you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► read the ER you should listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► story about Jimmy Kimmel's son who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► born with a terrible heart defect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► were it not for some of the protections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► I know we shouldn't be getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► political but here we are without some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► of these protections that I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► important you know like it's certain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► know we as we've talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► certain times politics your other world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► events do bleed into relevance to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► people and I and I think this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► those times like this is a topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► that is among many things so politicized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► more than I think it probably should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► intentionally artificial to hide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► things that the politicians really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► to get accomplished which mostly have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► do with money for themselves and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► know their their class of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► their associates and lobbyists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► everything else so there's lots of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► stuff going on in the background here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► and we're arguing about you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► people who have not been as lucky as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► some of us should go bankrupt and die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► because of that and that's that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► unconscionable yeah yeah so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► this this Jimmy Kimmel thing it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► little under 15 minutes it's worth every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► second in my personal opinion and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► like I said I was on the verge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► balling the entire time I listened to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► but the short short version is his son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► had a terrible heart defect he is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► fine and you if some of the changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► American healthcare that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► proposed pass then his son would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► be able to have health insurance for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► rest his life because he was born with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► problem with his heart so yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► the son should have been living in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► womb better and made better choices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► utero and then he wouldn't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► problem right that's how this works yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► they may listen to too much heavy metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► music who knows I mean and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► it's not like this is a theoretical it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► not like you know we think people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► go bankrupt and die because of this note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► we know because that's how it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► the ACA a lot of people went bankrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► and died this is not a small thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► is not an unknown it's very much known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► we were there it was horrible we tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► to fix it as best as we could and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► wasn't perfect but the right fix is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► to go back to that we've seen it already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► we've tried that I don't know why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► is even possibly a point of contention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► well I dunno why really but it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► good reason yeah and one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► that um was fascinating by about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► this tweet that uh that I'd sent in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► January about the Affordable Care Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► which will link all this and show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► but one of the fascinating things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► having a tweet that gets retweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► 16,000 times is that everyone and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► mother comes and tells you about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► you're right why you're wrong and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► tweet that I had tweeted read opposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► I've heard to the Affordable Care Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► number one it costs me money number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► Affordable gif that I've heard for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► Affordable Care Act number one I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► guaranteed which is what we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► about and man so many people came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► the woodwork and like no you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► it it's about this it's about that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► person had said I forget how he phrased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► it but something along the lines of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► shouldn't have to pay for people who eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► McDonald's all the time to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► their diabetes so okay III live health I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► live a healthy life I shouldn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► pay for all these unhealthy people well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► aren't you a winner but anyway after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► just hundreds of stories about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Affordable Care Act more it's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► why it's terrible the only good opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► my estimation anyway the only good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► answer I heard about why the Affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► Care Act was bad was that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► said well I make enough that I'm priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► out of all the subsidy tiers and I'm way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► oversimplifying here but I I make enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► money that I'm priced out of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► like super cheap tiers but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► really make enough to afford like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► the whatever the opposite scenario was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► forget what it what it is but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► they were in this like- this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► here's an example this is somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► tweeted I pay more than I can afford for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► insurance with the deductible too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► to matter it's that's pretty crummy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► that should get fixed but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► else was like just people who basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► are looking for their fellow man to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► because they didn't want to pay for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► understand how this is a question how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► this a question right now I don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► that's the thing is like like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► your that that sentiment of like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► should I pay for the people who aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► healthy like that is such a toxic way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► think because like okay well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► follow that through if that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► think that you don't that you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► have to pay for people who are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► who do things that you don't like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► whatever and that makes them unhealthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► even though a lot of times they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► help what has made them unhealthy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► anyway suppose you don't want to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► what should the penalty be for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► who does this thing you don't like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► can't afford it is that punishable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► death is is that an appropriate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► penalty like literally like that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► is that is that your actual position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► like if that's what you think don't ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► questions you don't want the answers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► is they would say yes of course they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► getting what they deserve that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► what they say I mean if these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► actually think that way I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► should own that I think they should come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► right out and say yes I think all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► people who who can't afford the health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► care should die like if that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► think let's let's bring that discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► let's see how that discussion goes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► the hotel we have people in Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► owning that at this point that's true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► don't think it's that a position people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► are shrinking from and I mean but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► the thing is like you can apply that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► kind of thinking you know I should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► have to pay that to everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► government provides like that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► the whole nature of government like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► provides a bunch of services with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► people's tax money most of which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► know like any given person probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► doesn't directly use a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► services but they've also benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► lots of other ones and it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► pool for each person you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► the role of government like why should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► pay for a giant military that starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► wars I don't want well that's just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► of the government like its it it's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► of our system we vote for things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► that you know this is what happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► and sometimes our votes even are counted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► properly and equally and I just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► I wish I I wish I knew what it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► made people so hateful everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► really like maybe it's just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► everyone else listens to way less fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► than I do but I just cannot possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► understand what it is that makes someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► think to themselves oh I would those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► like I I don't I don't get that at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and that's what makes me really sad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► that that is such a prevalent attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► as well as they hearkened back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► the days of the 80s when it was commonly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► accepted that the goal was to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► people healthier and the only argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► was about how best to do that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► government is inefficient and bloated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► and we will have a better system of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► without competition and bla bla black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► that was levelled the argument that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► going on right and these days that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► not like the level the argument that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► accepted premises of trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► everybody as healthy as possible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► people barely on the right give you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► barely make faints in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► like they're not even interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► saying you don't understand this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► people will actually be healthier fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► people will die like everyone will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► know then that's they'll they'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► that at the broad level but they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► not make they will not actually show how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► the numbers add up they will not show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► their math I will not say look here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► predictions BS sort of trickle down any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► predictions if we allow this to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► and this competition happens here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► there what's going to happen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► let me show you my BS model with BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► predictions that are going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► feel like we don't need to do that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► just wave our hands and you know pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► one person against the other and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► boat do what it takes to get this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► and then you know then we end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► what we end up with I miss I miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► the pretend intellectual debates is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► I just I don't get it just makes me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► understand how any intelligent human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► being with three brain cells to rub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► together can think that the Affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► Care Act is bad I just don't get it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► oh it's not perfect no it is bad I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► it's but but it's you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► what should we move to something worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► I'm gonna say no we say no we shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► do that right the whole like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► perfect enemy of the good thing like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► know healthcare is is a hard problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► it's really expensive to provide health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► care for people that has to be paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► somehow whether you're you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► it's people paying themselves or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► it's government single-payer to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► things or some kind of weird thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► between like what we have now like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► just it's a hard problem it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► hard problem but that you know the ACA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► took this really hard problem that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► really in a bad state before and made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► less bad and yeah the cost went up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► are all paying more now for worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► coverage but that was happening anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► anybody who was actually paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► their coverage before the ACA saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► trend already in fact with the ACA I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► I'm still now paying less than what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► paid the year before the ACA went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► effect and the coverage isn't as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► but I'm actually still netting less per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► year expenditure for it and also I'm Way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► less worried about some crazy hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► some crazy limit or you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► lifetime limit or present conditions all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► of a sudden excluding everyone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► everything like this is a better system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► and it still sucks and that's why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► are so mad because it is still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► expensive and coverage still does really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► suck and we all have high deductibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► now and we all have like having to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3417">TS</a>]
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00:57:00 ◼ ► our prescriptions but that was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► before whatever the Republicans get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► through whatever they do to this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3425">TS</a>]
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00:57:12 ◼ ► still gonna have to deal with BS from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► mail-order pharmacies and having to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► everything's that's all going to still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► be there and your costs are going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► up the year after that and the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► after that and every year after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► your costs are going to keep going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► and up and up this whatever they pass is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► not going to solve that it can't what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► they all they're trying to do is go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► to the way it was before the ACA which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► and yet the ACA sucks but that sucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► way more before and that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► want to go back to it is really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► talk with us because literally thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► we'll die every year because of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► like this is not a small thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3471">TS</a>]
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00:57:58 ◼ ► thousands of people will die and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3478">TS</a>]
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00:58:15 ◼ ► unnecessarily because of not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► proper health care it is such a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► problem and so many people go bankrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► or die or both unnecessarily it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► unconscionable to me that we that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► still continue to try to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► way it was because it was worse and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► and again like I know I know why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3518">TS</a>]
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00:58:47 ◼ ► coverage keep getting worse yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► that was happening before this made it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3528">TS</a>]
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00:59:04 ◼ ► be able to get your nose put back on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3544">TS</a>]
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01:01:06 ◼ ► know a lot about it except in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► it's because I really don't care but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► apparently it's an echo with a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► that will tell you if you look good or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► not or something along those lines so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► enthusiastic about it John you get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► one I don't think I'm gonna get one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► these but I actually am because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► enthusiastic about it but I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► it is doing is a natural thing to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► I think we're going to see more of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► not less like in the same way that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► strangely or at least not uniquely but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► it was I think I had more enthusiasm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► the Amazon echo when they first showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► that little ad with the cylinder more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► more optimism let's say that this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► potentially be a cool useful thing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► most people who saw up is they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► this looks dumb it's never going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► and I had the same kind of this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► dumb and it's not going to work as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► as they show a working reaction to but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► was also kind of like this class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► device seems like it could be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► essentially a little camera so I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► with a camera it's a camera that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► talk to that a some awareness of who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► where you are and it has some specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► functionality having to do with fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► and Amazon trying to sell you clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3739">TS</a>]
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01:02:22 ◼ ► details matter that much except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► this is like because it's Amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► because they have the pedigree of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► echo that this product and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► they're going to push it like crazy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► their website that this product has as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► good a chance as any to be the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3753">TS</a>]
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01:02:50 ◼ ► those things are like a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► you can talk to a computer that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► talk to they can also see you natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► evolution the number of things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► can do with that ability with all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► even just current technology for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► facial recognition and identifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► things in scenes and you know the Kinect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► Xbox style understanding gestures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► your position in the position of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► body and stuff like that that is a rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► vein of interaction with computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► devices that we should begin to tap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► if it has to be a weird fashion camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► that spies on you and uploads pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► of you to Amazon to sell you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► clothes I mean the cylinder had to ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► up being in Amazon things let you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► paper towels by talking to it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► things come in weird packages right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► man I suppose it beats the old way which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► is everything had to be attached to porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► in some way to get an interaction all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► this potentially could be as well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► put it I am enthusiastic about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► future of devices that are computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► that can hear and see you and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► there needs to be more of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► and they need to get better and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► will be cool and make our lives better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► provided we can avoid all the pitfalls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► that which is basically people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► talking about the echo all the privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► and security and you know just general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► creepiness implications but I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► think the foundation is sound so I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► them I wish them some success that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► hope they learn from it and branch out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► I'm just now watching the video quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► I don't wait you know with no audio I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► just looking at the video as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► and I think I would have noticed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► certainly was called out in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► podcast I was into this week that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► isn't a man in this video until like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► last ten seconds which is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► pretty cool that they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► pitching this directly women and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► think you're it stands to reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► enthusiastic about this in your average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► man obviously that's not a universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► truth but I think that's kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and I personally am NOT in love be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► partially because I haven't really lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► it I'm not in love with the idea of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► echo in general let alone an echo with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► eyes but again just because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► really gaga for it doesn't mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► a good idea not a good device it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► it's not something that I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► Marco so first of all there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► there's a great discussion about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► especially by Lisa Schmeisser who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► a lot about retail on the first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► download this is kind of this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► Jason Snell's kind of new hosted show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► almost like an expanded clockwise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► more broad and even more produced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► I'm guessing over time this might become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► the biggest show on relay and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► biggest tech shows period so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► suggest getting on the ground floor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► going to subscribe to download now at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► relay to FM slash download anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► didn't pay me or even asked me to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► that but I think you should because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► discussion on episode one by Lisa miser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► especially about this from the retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► knowledge that we don't personally have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► but a grilling I've really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► anyway I'm with you you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► this is being marketed heavily towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► women and it's hard for me to fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► understand it as both a man and also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► man who doesn't care at all about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► own personal fashion and so it's on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► wrist except on my wrist I care very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► much about that but I don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► camera tell me which watch to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► everyday I just put on the one I'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► I feel like wearing and I enjoy it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► you know that's if there was one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► took a wrist shot for me every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► compete like and gave me like a wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► book of shots of how I looked over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► do something I don't know it it bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► line this isn't for me and so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► want to try to I don't want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► large proclamations about it either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► because it's fundamentally a product I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► understand and this made it very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► to me by the reactions on Twitter when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► extraordinarily polarized tech dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► like us largely said largely made fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► it and said why would anybody want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► buy this oh my god Amazon is nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► and a lot of people who were not tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► dudes who you know I would venture to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► guess that most of us myself included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► probably where the basic you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► t-shirt every day that we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► wear something for work you know t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and jeans maybe that's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► uniform of tech a hoodie if it's cool or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► if you live in San Francisco you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► that's that's kind of uniform of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► tech geeks so all of us look at this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► said this is crazy why we let Amazon put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► a camera on her bedroom to do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► we don't care about but people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► really into clothing and fashion really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► enjoyed this the reaction from most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► them and this wasn't all women I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► should say I'm trying I'm very carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► you know trying to dance around the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► women angle here but I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► sexist but it is very clear that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► how this is being targeted and and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► see very different reactions from most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► timeline but I really don't want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► anything more than that because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► know I'm talking about it is not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► for me but I think this will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► succeed you know when when the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► echo cylinder first came out we all made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► fun of it because first of all the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► way it was presented the video it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► presented and was awful I mean it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► was comical it was comically bad and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► was pretty soon after the fire phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► so we were pretty sure like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► yeah Amazon really is nuts but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► hardware they don't know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► doing it did indeed sound crazy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► you're going to put a microphone in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► house that listens all the time and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► owned by Amazon really but then it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► takes like one friend to get it and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► you to be at their house for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► while and and you know with they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► using it to kind of see like oh actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► I think we're like it it does sound kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► of ridiculous up front but it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► succeed anyway and I think all you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► to know to know whether it will succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► or not is like are there is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► group people right now right up front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► who are saying oh my god yes give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► that right now and the answer from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► I can see is yes my wife wants one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► know a bunch of uh people on Twitter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► said they wanted one like again it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► definitely for some people and so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► though it seems creepy you know to me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► a nerd it's going to be a thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► think I I would I would not discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► Amazon in this I would not assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► they're crazy I will occasionally make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► funny tweets about it but but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► they're probably going to sell this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► it's probably going to become part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► bigger thing and it's probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► have its own little weird oddities just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► like every Amazon product that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► does but I think it'll work long-term I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► speculation and say like oh it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► for some people because like it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► right down the middle of things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► know people already like to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► massive numbers people like to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► pictures of themselves the word selfie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4199">TS</a>]
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01:16:50 ◼ ► them all the time or they might not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► them for a lot of things but people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► use them seem to enjoy them largely so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► so I do think that is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► should not be totally discounted as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► thing and maybe maybe apples right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► it should they're sure to seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► lot of people are using them anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► I also think it's interesting that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► know when when the original you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► surface not the table but like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► very first like weird OBE is our tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► laptop thing when that first came out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► really seemed like this really like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► know niche low volume low selling device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► persistent and it has NS just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► iterating and iterating and now services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► are actually pretty common like I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► see them out all the time and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► know if I just don't recognize most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► other PC hardware so like I don't maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► I don't like visually like notice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► are counted and like whenever whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► like people on Twitter do like coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► I like grouper likes to do sometimes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► like I see some other people doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► like alright number of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► MacBooks in this coffee shop at 10 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► number of vino surfaces 3 number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► iPads to stuff like that surfaces tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► to be represented pretty well just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► there seem to be a lot of them in coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► shops and in airports and on planes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► like on commuter trains stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► like so I do think that it is worth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► hope Apple is noticing and they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► are they're smart over there I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► are noticing that like these think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► experiments that Microsoft has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► doing with the surface over time seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► outlandish at first not only are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► getting less outlandish over time as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► all realize that some of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► are good ideas but also they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► pretty popular and so I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► that is that is something that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► we should not be ruling out and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► some things are popular they're terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► I mean Dave Matthews Band right but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► it their popularity I think should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► and and we should not assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► everything about the surface and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► line of products is Microsoft being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► weird and wacky because a lot of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► pointing out so this particular computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► it looks pretty compelling for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► people I mean in a lot of ways it specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► or lower end than the MacBook Air it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► be it although it is much newer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► MacBook Air still has I think like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► parts something like that and and this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► believe the Microsoft Surface laptop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► KB Lake so it's like really current if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► the macbook air had skylake or KB Lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► it would get way better battery life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► it's already amazing which means they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► could do some pretty cool things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► they're not but the other they they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► the MacBook Pro instead and we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► about that in a minute like the escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► but this laptop looks really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► because when when the MacBook Air first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► came out it was like the specialized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► thing but over you know over a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► short time it pretty quickly became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► the mainstream a laptop to have and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► it's the low-end laptop to have but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► still like they still sell a ton of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► especially like that form factor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► that combination I've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► before and they show like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► really good sweet spot for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► people it's an incredibly compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► there's a reason why everyone has their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► and almost everyone who hasn't loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► them it's no coincidence that when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► cursor into do stuff that's a quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► mistake when Apple introduced the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► MacBook Pros and and kind of made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► clear that the MacBook Air was was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► its way slowly out and that the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► MacBook Air replacement was this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► 13-inch MacBook Escape that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► expensive and in some ways more limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► a lot of people were very upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► that it's like it's like no you took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► this this formula that we liked so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► and now you're telling us that it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► and you're replacing it with some of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► more expensive and more limited so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► Microsoft comes along and says all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► well you know what here this computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► that you wanted here we just made it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► made like a up to date basically version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► of a retina MacBook Air shape and size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► computer and in most ways it looks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► like the MacBook Air it you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► like if you if you match respect respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► it's it's is about the same price as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► air and although newer and in it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► few hundred dollars cheaper than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► MacBook Escape for similar specs again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► think they're going to sell a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► these now they aren't the first PC maker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► to make a MacBook Air clone that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► know the PC makers are making these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► a while largely I think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► reasons why services have taken off so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► well is that PC hardware is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► total crap like it is really bad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► the designs are crappy ly and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► cheap plastic builds and just designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► with very poor taste you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► Microsoft's designs have largely been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► hardware like they've had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► you know weird little missteps here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► there but you know so is Apple like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► one's perfect so Microsoft actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► think doing pretty well here and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► were buying a Windows PC for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► it would almost certainly be a surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► product of some kind or I built my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► life if it was a desktop probably but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► like let's say if I buy a PC laptop for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► some reason I would almost certainly get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► one of these I agree with you the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► is I obviously my career prior to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► current job was all the Microsoft stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► stal jaques sense i i have admired the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► way they've really changed themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► and and really kind of adjusted the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► they operate with such a novella at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► helm and I think they've been doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► really good job and have been have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► doing really fascinating stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► San Franciscans they pivoted so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► the funny thing is though you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► really make Microsoft lose all of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► old bits because as I'm trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► the URL for the surface laptop to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► the show notes I arrive at Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► Store comm slash store / MS USA / en-us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► PDP / product ID dot 5 109 100 then as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► load that page the back the the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► itself has been dimmed and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► modal don't miss out sign up to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► special deals new offers and more no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► answer is no so you can make Microsoft a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► lot better in general but you can't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► really make Microsoft forget that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► Microsoft can you well but what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► actual name of the macbook escape i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► the MacBook Pro I believe it's the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► 2013 13 inch MacBook Pro without touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► bar a fair point fair point fair point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► with deleteme in all caps at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► yeah so anyway but no I other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► I I think this looks really great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► agree with you if I were to buy a PC it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► would either be a lenovo or very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► likely a surface laptop or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► everything I've heard from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► have touchscreen laptops they swear by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► them I think that seems really kooky but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► it's probably one of those things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► just haven't tried it and so I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► it and certainly for iOS simulator that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► would be super helpful so in that sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► I do get it but I do like that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► different colors available I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► recall what colors there are but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► certainly several shades that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► get them in which is really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► stupid but I like it and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► kind of neat Apple look Apple sells like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► you know that the pink gold and dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► gray 12-inch MacBook that's yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► fine like that there's nothing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► with a little bit of color in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► tech people mean it's fine color is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► although here again like the marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► the here again the marketing copy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► preposterous if you look at the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► bullets undersurface laptop luxurious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► alla contra fabric-covered keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► bullet number two wait come on I mean in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► that Apple has their moment still get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► wrong Apple is not innocent in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► department but luxurious all account all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► contra fabric-covered keyboard really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► guys I'm glad you can't pronounce that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► word either just by reading in a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► magazines for the past several decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► so that was uh Kintaro i don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► never have to say it out loud when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► in car magazines and all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► you're faced with this word you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► do a disable the time al-qantara there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► we go it's like gazelle any case john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► what do you think about this so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► the narrative for this is like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► said Oh Apple wouldn't make this laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► this is the retina MacBook Air that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► have all wanted but as Marco already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► pointed out it's not like there haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► been a million pcs that the are similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► they're like small thin used the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► Air class a processor but are newer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► have a Retina screen and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► forth um for this computer specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► though this is not the retina MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Air that I would want assuming it ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► Mac OS and not just because it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► fuzzy top which is kind of weird and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► think we get kind of gross this if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► made this computer I would right now be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► complaining about the ports and the RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► four gigabytes RAM that you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► even offer a computer with that much is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► stupid don't do that and the ports one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► big USB one mini DisplayPort thingy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► headphone like no USB see that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► modern computer like I'm not saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► have to have all the ports in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► but especially if you're going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► PC like provide me utility the utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► with Apple won't add would be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► like it what this thing has except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► USB see instead of playing USB maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► thrown one regular us because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► like there's not room like this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► MacBook sighs SuperDuper skinny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► it's big enough that you could fit some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► more ports on there and if I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► for anything into the PC is to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► port stuff that Apple won't do so give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► me my ports put some USB C on there put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► one regular USB put an SD card slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► don't give me one big USB and one mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► DisplayPort and that's it like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► Gort slim and form-factor wise if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► going to buy into the surface brand no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► this is just like this is a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► laptop like they do have a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► on it but just like they do on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► surface book and everything but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► can sort of transform into tablet II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► touchscreen is much more viable not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► touchscreen because they should they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► should leverage the advantage they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► which is they have created an OS that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► touch accessible right that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► combined OS that it is usable with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► finger you're not you know in theory the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► interface that is on the screen has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► chance of being used by your big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► fingertip surface right and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► they're telling people to make make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► application that is usable in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► we'll make controls and buttons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► widgets and things that are usable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► that way Mac OS is not like that so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► of the advantages that that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► has when it comes to directly competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► against the Mac not iOS but the Mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► that they have an interface that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► available for touch but touch on a plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► old upright laptop screen like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► you're right the PCs have been doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► forever and you're right that people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► like it because they can touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► screen but I think Apple is also right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► that did it is a it is not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► experience so I don't say there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► reason they shouldn't have put touch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► here but I wouldn't chalk it up as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► of an advantage it's more of a well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► can do it anyway and we got to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► it makes me wish almost that this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► straight-up laptop but the hinge went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► all the way around and you could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► bend it back on itself right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► the convertibles that they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► million different varieties of if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► not gonna I can get on board with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► not disconnecting it but if it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► to be a touchscreen what if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► some application that I really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► use a touchscreen with it is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► awkward to use a very touch-centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► interface when you're when it's in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► laptop configuration so I put that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► mostly as a neutral and then so that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► just like a left with a laptop that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► kind of middle-of-the-road kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► strange not a good complement of ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► in the low-end model has terrible specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► so I'm not impressed with it as a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► but I but I do agree that Microsoft has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► been been trying everything that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► safely try and that they are putting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► the work to make an operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► how computing how a single operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► system can span multiple form factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► and all that other good stuff styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► wise the FIR aside or the fuzzy fabric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► aside I still think Microsoft Surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► and pcs in general are sticking too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► design formula like they have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► twist they have their own colors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► know fabric and the weird hinge no stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► like that but Apple has so dominated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► aesthetic for laptops basically from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► PowerBook days when they defined the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► current shape of laptop keyboard goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► their pointing device goes here screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► goes there it took a while for PC to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► onboard with that but that defined it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► the same way that the iPhone defined the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► smartphone form factor and when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► came out with the modern MacBook lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► with the big flat square key caps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► this little perfect rectangle the Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► I've loves in the big touchpad and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► all the quote-unquote high-end PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► laptops have been following along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► that aesthetic as if it is the one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► only true way to make laptops and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► don't think it is there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► there is variety out there and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► that variety is ugly if you like glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Microsoft is sticking with of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► design school because it looks good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► it does but it also doesn't allow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► to stand out very often speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► coffee shop surveys I'm in a coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► and I have to squint to make sure I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► make out from the front is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► MacBook Air or is it you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► easier from the back because you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► the little Windows logo which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► know better than the old windows logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► Apple says that you have to have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► company logo dead center in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► your screen so that's what they do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► from the front it's like it you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► mistake it for a MacBook Air and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► that is leaving money on the table style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► wise that I believe there can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► different aesthetic that they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► currently doing which is like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► so I'm not particularly impressed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► this product I was much more impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► by the surface studio Pro and I but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► these products all Microsoft hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► products and even you know to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► degree the software products reveal real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► gaps in Apple's lineup I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► say that necessarily weaknesses but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5458">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► reveal gaps like their operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► reveals the fact that there you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► things fall through the gaps between iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► whether one OS to us is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► strategy either way it shows gaps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► all these variety of surface books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► service to do reveal gaps in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► lineup in it like if you want a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► big touchscreen that runs Pro Apps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► biggest you can go on Apple is 12.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► of un if you want to know s that's touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► accessible that's iOS you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► hardware that in theory is coming to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► max soon and and touch OS and Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► separated those two from each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► whereas Microsoft has a combined OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► a combined hardware strategy so I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► that the most interesting thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► the surface efforts and I suppose it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► interesting that they're extending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► brain to a plain old laptop but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► plain old laptop isn't it does not seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► to be a particularly compelling product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► beyond the fact that it is a surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► branded laptop but I I applaud Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► for taking the surface hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► and extending it outwards and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► they have some success we haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► talked about Windows 10 s I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5518">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► if we have time for it but that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► whole other aspect of this we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► the head but also and I think this ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► into that to keep in mind like as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► it's a low-end product like it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► this is a value product you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► world of pcs it's probably mid to low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► end Mac it's a high end PC a low end PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► laptop is 180 bucks yeah that's true it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► is it's a mid-range piece of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► but it's you know because and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► use of those kind of mid-range parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► everything it's it's pretty small case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► and everything's anyway this is a value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► product and it's competing against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► interesting to see like the two very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► different ways that Microsoft and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► are tackling this problem you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► is largely addressing the very old an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► updated MacBook Air towards the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► market I mean some of the people we push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► up into a new method Pro but but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► a lot of people liking this is aimed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► things like schools bait you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► businesses college students like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► who need either a lot of computers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► blows profit price like a school or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► people who like people who are buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► computer need a lot of value and can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► spend a lot more so things like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► people like college students things of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► that and you know the MacBook Air is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► owned very buff these people but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► know Apple is basically just telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► them to just keep buying really old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► and Microsoft is showing them a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► option and I don't think Apple really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► has a direct answer to this they mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► guess technically Apple's answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► spend more for one of our new computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► or tolerate one of our old ones but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► really I think the MacBook Air is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► kind of an embarrassment right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► because it's not like this is some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► you know you know narrow little product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► that they don't sell many of they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► tons of them and so it makes me kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► sad for Apple that they are happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► sell so many of an ancient product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► they have refused to update out of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► seems like a combination of laziness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► greed because they're making good money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► on it so why update it that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► crappy reason you know but that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► be the reason they're using and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► MacBook Pro will eventually I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► we'll eventually get lower in price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► eventually will and eventually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► 12-inch and the the escape line will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► replace the MacBook Air but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► seem like that's happening soon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► seemed like that might be like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► like maybe maybe three years out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► so for this time are they just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► keep selling this ancient MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► while things like this are coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► from the PC industry and and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► embarrassing it like that I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► don't think I like that strategy don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► we have like five years before they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► a special meeting to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► MacBook Air campuses they invite us like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► you know saying we know we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► updated the MacBook Air in four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and people wonder if we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► discontinue it but we've just decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► last week that we're going to make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► MacBook Air and I won't be out this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► but we are going to rethink the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► we've heard you that you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► MacBook Air like yeah right yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► the specific Microsoft Surface thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► like PC laptops have been embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► the air for a long time it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► this one like oh they finally made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► like like I said like there's been tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► of pcs that use the Mac by our class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► chip but they actually stay updated of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► varying degrees of build quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► style so maybe the Microsoft one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► reputation for Hardware build quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► and if you like the style like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► fine but yeah I mean it's that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► revealing gaps in Apple's lineup like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► that that Apple wanted the Mac the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► book and the new MacBook Pros to span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► the same rage that the old combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► of the errors plus the pros plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► weird MacBook II thing in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► span and it does kind of span the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► range of gaps in different places but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► because of the way they're priced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► the way their capabilities spread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► ends up being less satisfying and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► the air still is very pop I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► if I mentioned this about my UK trip but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► I did it I did a because I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► in a Starbucks I think the first time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► my entire life big because my wife went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► in there to get a drink and I came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► with her um and I did a laptop count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► just because I was you know I glanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► around and I was stunned at what I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► what I saw was like I think it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► one HP laptop and one MacBook Pro yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► was like MacBook Airs like what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► on talk to some people in the UK and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► they said Oh schools buy them a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► when you go to school you get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► stuff and they all buy MacBook Airs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► so like are these people going to mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► are these all old MacBook Airs they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► as hand-me-downs are people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► Apple stores and continuing to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► MacBook Airs yes they are but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► mean I don't know I mean if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► the ASP s of the I was thinking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► when you say oh the MacBook Pro prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► will come down like Nautilus ASP stay up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► because the new MacBook Pros that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► all super you know more expensive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► their old models tremendously increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► revenues and average selling price for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► Apple so because I get pent-up demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► right or whatever but I'm not so sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► that they're going to be in a big darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► hurry to lower the price and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► I'm okay with Apple jacking up the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► on its top end models as long as the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► end models like justify that price not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► linearly obviously where it's like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► this $500 better no of course it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► gonna be calling dollars better but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► anything you're going to fleece people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► on make it the super duper high end ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► if they actually introduced a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► Air replacement sort of a worthy MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► Air replacement that fills that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► role like has the same trade-offs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► battery life screen size and ports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► capability as the old MacBook Air but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► has all updated internals and is retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► if they ever made such a machine I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► that can lower their ISPs but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► would sell like hotcakes and honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► feel like I don't made the joke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► the whole Mac Mac Pro meeting like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► we've decided we're going to do this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► is inevitable because it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► range of capabilities in Apple's limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► range from the SuperDuper skinny MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► to the much more expensive pros that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► capabilities to satisfy the market right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► whereas the air has proven itself to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► a you know and not the first air because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► the first there was a crappy mix right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► but like the 2011 and on air like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► was a really great sweet spot for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► capability size and price uh and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► Apple has proven with their experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► that the SuperDuper skinny one like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► a little bit too far down the capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► ladder like it's sacrifice too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► capability for other stuff they just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► all means keep it because you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► have a model it's like the lightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► possible thing perhaps awesome for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► whatever the curve looks like of demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► for laptop sizes and capabilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► one is also towards the edge so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► Apple will eventually coming around come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► around to making a machine that has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► the balance of the MacBook Air does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► to be the same exact size and shape as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► the MacBook Air because things change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► and USBC is smaller and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► forth and whether that's because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► MacBook evolved or they introduced a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► model in the middle or the 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► MacBook Pro as marcos talked about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► many times eventually shrinks down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► the point where it basically is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► MacBook Air but that hasn't happened yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► and so looking over at the PC side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► the windows side of things and seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► all these MacBook Air equivalents seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► how popular you know again coffee coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► shop surveys a lot of the pcs that I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► are macbook air resize form factor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► i see less of the giant battleships that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► you still see in corporate environments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► and i see more of the you know HP Lenovo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► so hopefully Apple will get on that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► you know t-minus two and a half years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► yeah cuz that's the thing like it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► what I'm seeing like the strategy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► they're doing but they seem to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► now which is basically like just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► update the air and just keep selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► until the other ones come down in price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► I don't think that necessarily works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► unless there's other changes in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► because like what you said like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► assume that comes down in price and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► becomes a new entry that's kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► good enough to replace the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► like it is it is so much of a compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► as it you know it has way fewer ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► and things it is way slower than MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► Air in a lot of things it is it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► worse battery life by a good amount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► and though you know it will presume to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► improve over time like maybe maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► second generation 12-inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► whenever that comes out maybe that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► will be a better air replacement but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► current one really isn't I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► the answer is that the 13-inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► Escape ends up going down in price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► eventually or it has a very low in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► configuration but the problem is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► the the base model is already a pretty a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► pretty low-end model for Apple standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► for you know for the connected service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► book it's kind of mid-range to high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► entirely sure that strategy makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► but it seems like Apple is doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► pretty poor job addressing what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► probably by far their most popular model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► of laptop like that seems weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► although that that being said looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► the surface laptop if you had if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► were buying one of these things which of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► these four colors would you guys I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► the video the colors looked okay in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► video now I'm seeing this page like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► four of these colors look hideous to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► they all look like cubicle walls as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► texture is the problem not the color I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► think either one of the the two gray is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► the darker grey is a lighter gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► they're fine but I'm I'm not on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► with with the texture thing both because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► I think it'll get dirty and gross and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► it'll be harder to clean and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► because the edge treatment like when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► fabric runs to the edge and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► joins up with the metal that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► asking for it to fray the last thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► want is a frayed laptop that's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► aesthetic I like I can imagine people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► finding attractive right but I'm not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► not into that word I I don't know I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► hard to say I on the configurator the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► the colors are in the image is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► microscopic and it's very hard to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► would probably take a look at the cobalt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► blue but it all likelihood end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► yeah the cause of the cause I read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► you're right that their website like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► you know you just made fun of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► website for a while before but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► if you have beautiful hardware like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► I think Gruber linked to and I hope all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► the people that it shows like I'll you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► know it looked like an Apple video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► showing how beautiful all the parts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► even on the inside and how they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► assemble and fly together we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► stuff from like Apple like but then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► you go to their website Apple the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► page would you just be like incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► close-up high-resolution beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► shot photographs slash renders of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► hardware right whereas here we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► squinting at these little blurry JPEGs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► we can't even you know I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► look for a picture to show me all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► ports Apple would have a shot that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► like the ports fill your entire screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► and they're impossibly clean because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► they're probably computer renders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► here it's like I can't even get a shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► where I can make out what the ports are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► on the side the color picker changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► color on this one inch by one inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► postage stamp is off you are not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► not selling your hardware you got look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► good looking hardware you have to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► it off we want to see it want to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► up close alas that's Microsoft's I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► say also the MacBook escape the the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► 2016 13 inch MacBook Pro without touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► bar two ports that it continues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► impress me as a machine like and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► know when at when Phil Schiller onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► introduction he did say something on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► lines of like this is kind of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► MacBook Air and even though it starts at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► $1500 and has few reports and things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► think that is largely correct I hope in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► in the whatever the next version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► MacBook Escape is you know presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► meant you know maybe this fall or next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► spring whenever new MacBook Pros come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► out I hope they make a few changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► will make that more correct that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► replacement I think for me like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► used this thing now I I missed the SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► card slot I I will not accept any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► argument that that's the past because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► simply is not true you can argue with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► all you want about legacy ports but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► SD card is not a legacy port it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► something else and it is still necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► for lots of people oh I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► disagree with you more cool so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► say bring back bring back the SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► reader and I would also really like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► computers like in this class before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► you've been able to have them plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► and you'll be able to plug in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► devices to them and you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► with this without using hubs and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► and every USB C hub that's out there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► the world right now is a total piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► garbage and the MacBook one has been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► for what two years now something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► that and they're still all garbage you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► know like this is similar it's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► problem of a lot of like hubs and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► like hubs that you know eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► mean it took me something like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► years to find a decent USB 3 hub that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► didn't disconnect constantly and cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► problems like every USB C hub out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► is a total piece of garbage and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► is what if I don't want to buy a USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► hub what or what if I what if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► want to buy apples like $75 thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► whatever it is like the like that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► more additional cost for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► buying this thing to do something fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► basic I really would love one additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► USB port and an SD card reader and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► that if that happens to come with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► also maybe dropping the price by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► couple hundred bucks on the entry on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► entry point so that it makes it more map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► lakea range I think that would help a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► lot and then make it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► thinner and you've got to write in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► book Eric no it does need to be thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► it's already thinner than the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► Air like it is it is it like physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► in so many ways it's great like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► really is really nice it's not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► not thinner than macbook air and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► dimensions like it doesn't do the taper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► which again I said is a great idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► not doing the taper because you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► tons more battery life but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► change the fact of how how it feels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► your hands and how it fits into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► like backpack or whatever like the taper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► was there for a reason for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► perception reason and that perception is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► a real thing no I'm telling you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► disagree very strongly on the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► side to me physically this is a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► Air like it this is it is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► right size and and feels exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► right in the hand you may feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► the right size but it feels chunkier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► than the air I I disagree I can just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► get an air and just like it just does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► because it doesn't have the thin end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► that's that's the perception angle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► I'm talking about like I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► the thin end is the right choice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► I think the right choice is for right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► now for it to be thicker but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► saying like in the future eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► like I said the question is does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► fanless macbook expand its capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► to fill in the the role of the air or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► the 13-inch MacBook Pro slimmed down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► essentially to become to come to the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► okay and lower its price to come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► MacBook Air from above and I agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► eventually the 13-inch MacBook Pro if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► not in price in all other ways will fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► that same role but I I disagree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► right now that fit form factor wise did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► it feel the same as it just doesn't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► have them at work and pick them up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► it's just not it's just not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► actually we don't have them alert the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► important people who have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► machines that work out that work sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► so excited like the work if that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► know this is my personal machine do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► want to we are running long but we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► whatever it's called I mean we can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► think this is a quick one so Windows 10s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► is the cut down in terms of pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► version of Windows that you can get with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► these laptops that wants you to get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► the applications from Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► version of the app store and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► it's a model we're all familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► Microsoft has been pushing real hard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► the App Store model thus far they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► not been as successful as Apple but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► theory brings all the same benefits of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► controlled selection of software that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► approved by Microsoft that conforms to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► presumably better conforms to the ideals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► that Microsoft wants it to conform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► and that Microsoft gets you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► know the control of how the money flows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► and yadda yadda yadda the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► thing about Microsoft 10s is that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► want to get applications from someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► other than the Microsoft App Store I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► don't know what they call it keeps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► App Store you can pay them in additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► and now you can load programs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► anywhere which is probably making a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► time PC windows people freak out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► this is hell like a lockdown PC that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► have to pay money to put stuff on that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► terrible don't worry guys you'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► to hack it all that stuff is cracked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► anyway it's an interesting business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► model trying to have your cake and eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► it to where it's like well we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► give people the capability of using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► as a regular PC but we actually want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► discourage that so we can discourage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► and by the way we can make our cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► models cheaper by you know presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► Microsoft is reducing whatever its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► license fee is by saying if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► use Windows 10s you to have new PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► manufacturer won't have to pay us quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► much for the windows license because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► hope we're going to make some more by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► selling apps through our store but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► Gruber pointed out this is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► weird pitch for people that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► have to pay money to are you paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► money to make your thing better or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► you're paying or is it just there as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► deterrent to try to encourage people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► use the app star and the Microsoft star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► is pretty grim and like doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► everybody just have to pay that fee I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► don't know like many things they do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► the Microsoft in modern Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► service world it's like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► let's try this and you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► have too much to lose it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► they're the Microsoft app star is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► setting the world ablaze so if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► what takes to encourage more people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► get into the Microsoft app store to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► you know if they sell a lot of these and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► they can say hey look at all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► customers the only place they can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► stores is through the Microsoft Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► that's why you software developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► should put your stuff in the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► Store but you know good luck getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► big names in there the same reason Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► couldn't get them in Microsoft's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► have trouble I'm getting with the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► and then it just ends up being as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► weird free version of Windows that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► can pay $50 to unlock and presumably to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► remove all the weird ads that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► apparently windows these days yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► this whole thing is kind of a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► obviously like this effort to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► like a low-end Windows but like Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► RT was you know kind of a more severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► version of that and that didn't do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► Microsoft customers being a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► this it doesn't seem like the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► that deserves a 50 dollar charge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► seems to me to be like the gatekeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► switch in Oster Mac Mac OS where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► just kind of say yes I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► risks I'm good with it just let me let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► me side load whatever I want yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► was a group is analogy to and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► - it feels like a ransom it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► unlock the full capability to proceed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► but that's just from our perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► because we're like oh we just expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► be able to load any software we want on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► perspective and the the walled garden of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► apples like we would gladly pay 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► applications onto our iPhones or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► least that was I think ever all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► geeks would have agreed on that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► years ago these days people make less of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► a fuss about that but I think it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► exists for all sorts of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► that Apple doesn't allow on the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► potentially be useful so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► but trying to bring that to the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► world I don't know what kind of demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► is there for that and I'm not sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► much power Microsoft has even with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► own within its own ecosystem to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► Apple obviously took the easy way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► platform this how it is from day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► right so then it's like it is what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► and guess what that platform was wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► successful so they made it happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► trying to retro actively apply that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► platform that is previously opened Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► and it's on its own little private world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► of the Mac has had much difficulty doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► that you know with Mac App Store in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► sandboxing and major applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► we they're nether in the store Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► Store are left the the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► I think Microsoft's can have an even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► harder time fit but I think mainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► main innovation here seems to me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► way that Microsoft can allow even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► cheaper windows-based computers while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► still hopefully not losing that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► money on them like giving Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► licenses you know lowering the price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► Windows licenses so for computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► are incredibly cheap and hoping they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► going to make it up with the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► purchase I don't think the math will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► work out for them but it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► strategy and from users perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► think Windows users are just used to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► now the business model of Windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► how many different versions there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► how much they cost them what you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► have to pay and what they're capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► doing being a confusing mess and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► know this is par for the course thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► much for our sponsors this week Kasper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► betterment and endo Chino and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► see you next week now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► accidental John didn't do any research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► Marco and Casey wouldn't let him cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► was accidental it was accidental and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► can find the show notes at ATP dot F M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► and if you're into Twitter you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► follow them at CAS II WA L is s so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► that's Casey Liz and a are Co AR m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► I have some thoughts about the switch oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► it's okay it'll be fairly quick this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► week or oh really last week Mario Kart 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► deluxe came out this is the first Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► Kart that I have played since Mario Kart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► for the Wii and uh it came out on Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► I got my copy on Friday on Monday I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► already arranged with a few co-workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► at work who also have switches we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► all going to bring our consoles in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► our copies of Mario Kart in play over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► lunch and so there were six of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► gathered around kind of a bar if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► will at work playing local multiplayer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► against each other and with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► on Mario Kart 8 and it was unbelievably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► fun and cool and a miracle that HR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► didn't come down and yell at us for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► language that we were all using as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► were saw as we were hollering at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► other - you know effectively go die in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► fire but with much more colorful words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► than that it was unbelievably fun just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► like Apple it well felt like Apple used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► to be anyway it just worked and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► great and and I had just an unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► an unbelievable amount of fun in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► that I haven't since I did like land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► parties when I was in high school or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► college or no modem cable parties when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► was a grade schooler and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► constant this is the first console that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► I am aware of where that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► can happen in person really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► easily and without six associated TVs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► well I just thought it was extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► cool yes well actually yes I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► that the original Gameboy had like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► player games and things like that I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► you know what I mean where six people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► show up with no cables whatsoever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► just start playing a game together it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► was awesome and tremendously fun and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► you happen to know a couple of people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► even better a handful of people who all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► have all have switches and all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► Mario Kart or maybe an equivalent game I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► is so much fun have you done any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► yet John I look for you online America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► this weekend but you weren't around yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► up and I mean I'm like I've played all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► these tracks and done all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► already but I played it to just see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► the new frame rate and the high-res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► graphics and the new features of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► game what game was it again marikar date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► Oh what was it again you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► get me say Mary over and over again so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► you can sound bored me and still marikar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► date deluxe America a deluxe indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► oh yeah and to try out the new the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► new features they added with the double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► item boxes in the pink sparks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► dreaded auto steer thing which you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► disable because it's terrible well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► terrible for me it is good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► people who it's intended for I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► have loved to have the speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► auto drive thing it's not Auto Drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► it's preventing you from going off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► edge of the of the map and I used to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► to play Mario Kart with my kids probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► before they were quite old enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► frustrating for them because they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► know they couldn't stay on the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► right I think they would have had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► fun with this version which has Auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► accelerate so you don't have to hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► a and also they can drive all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► course however they want they just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► go off the edge it'll just as if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► are guardrails on the entire track and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► that would really help them you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► experienced merit car player you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► want this feature on because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► barely get close to or touch the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► and you weren't going to go off the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► but you just happen to touch it it slows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► you down tremendously it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► it's like sandpaper so I would encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► everyone to turn this feature off if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► you're going for good lap times or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► trying to compete in 200cc or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► you can't turn it off from the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► interface you have to actually start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► race and then once the race is started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► go to the options screen then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► turn it off and I'm pretty sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► setting persists between launches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► game once you have turned it off now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► thing though with this is that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► different than playing online against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► each other because we go when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► playing online against each other you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► can't unless you have like a phone line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► open you can't really yell and scream at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► each other like you can when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► face-to-face and you can't see you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► the people who are steering their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► switches even though they're not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► tilt controls their steering their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► switches like steering wheels because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► you can't see that just don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► delightfully taste just delicious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► frustration when you nail the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► first place with a blue shell you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► see all that online and and so although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► the online play is also very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► also generally just works it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► magnificent to have a big group all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► person so if we do a podcast or family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► New Year's again this year I print will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► pretty much demand everyone bring their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► switches in Mario Kart because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► extremely fun also I noticed buried deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► within Nintendo's Mario Kart site and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► will not put a link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► because I will forget I'm too lazy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► find it you can actually play 12 player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► local Mario Kart over Ethernet only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► which I didn't even realize was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► thing so you would have an Ethernet port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► no that's the thing you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► get 12 USB Ethernet adapters and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► router and 12 TVs because you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► docked to do it but you could play 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► scenario that sounds like an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► ridiculous manner setup but that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► how fun would that be that would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► but it to go back a sec John you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► saying you were looking for me over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► weekend didn't see me what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► complaints I do have about the online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► set up with the switch and maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► user ignorance so maybe maybe I'm dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► wrong about this but I don't see any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► where you can like notify somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► I would like to play this game with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► you can say in Mario Kart that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► looking for a friend that's online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► you can start a room that's intended or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► I guess maybe the only two people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► can that can go into that room or say me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► and you but there is no mechanism that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► I'm aware of where you can like ping or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► notify a person so let's say I'm playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► Mario Kart I'm actively playing Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► Kart and John starts up his switch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► sees me online and says oh I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► play KC I don't think I am ever notified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7196">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► play KC I don't think I am ever notified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► that you are asking to play with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► which is a real bummer because then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► have to like go to some other device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► orchestrate the thing and then back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► the switch to actually play and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► like that's a real shortfall which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► really bummed me out but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► it's worked really well now that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► said yesterday we also did a group game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► this time with seven players and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► know if it was because was over lunch we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► were standing relatively close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► microwaves which is the same story it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► was on Monday but but either way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► local land was not working well at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► and the online multiplayer actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► worked pretty much flawlessly so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► though we were all sitting within at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► most you know 10 feet of each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► microwaves it still just didn't work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► beings for some reason but once we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► went online it actually worked great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► so much fun to have it in person and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► of the things that appealed to me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:55 ◼ ► the switch which I think I've mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7255">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► you know last week or the week before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► was this was that intro video where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7257">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► showed like all the switches all in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► circle and they were all playing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► basketball or maybe a splatoon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► something like that against each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► and I thought man that looks so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► like so much fun and you know what oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► goodness it's so much fun so John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► really need to try that out or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► if one of your kids if their friends all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► if switches and they they do a slumber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► party or something you should just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► that creepy old dad that invites himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► to play along because it is super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► fun yeah organ ohmic issues though with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► using the switch handheld which I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► tried a few times with Sony people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► raving about it but that's just for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► personally it's time I always prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► have a doc didn't use a controller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► sit on the couch and look at the big TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► and unlike with the Wii U where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► actually thought I did it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► better with you playing on the gamepad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► maybe because of lag or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► the Wii U gamepad is way better for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► ergonomically than the little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► switch just too small and to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► do worse when I race with it in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► than I do on the TV so I've been I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► been playing America mostly on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► and if I had to do like a land part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► think it's nice that we go be in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► and do the things but I would prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► be in a scenario where the ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► scenario where there are 12 televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► and Ethernet things because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► play the game I mean I suppose you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► have fun playing it playing it not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► peak level with me trying to play at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► handheld thing and doing terribly badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► but uh yeah I'm and going back to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► was surprised that I felt like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► haven't played Bearcat Aiden so long I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► gonna fire this game up and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► gonna see how awful I am but I still had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► it like I went directly to 200 CC which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► I had unlocked in the Wii U version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► already and I just pulled off a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► courses and I was doing pretty well like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► rubber-banding and item bombardment did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► you get in 200cc with the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► cheating computer players I did okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► except for a couple the tracks that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► in like I guess I ran the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► DLC that I'd only done a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► realized I just don't know those courses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► but I tend not to like the SNES tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► anyway it was a monster I mean like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► were good on SNES but I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► prefer the other tracks that are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► dynamic that are you know ports room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► like GameCube and the credit ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► directly so I had fun I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► three-star everything like I did on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► Wii U one because I find that incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► frustrating at the upper levels because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► three starring at 200 CC will literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► drive you mad if you have if you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► have much better skills than I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► because I can do it but it takes me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► frustrating that the three-star because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► it doesn't mean just that you come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► first at the end of the thing that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► you basically come in first in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► race except for one like this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► very little more or maybe as all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► there's very little margin of error and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► in 200cc in a world of Mario Kart it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► seems to me that almost no amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► driving skill can protect you from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► unfortunate series of events that leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► you to after an entire Grand Prix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► getting blown up ten feet from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► finish line and watching one person zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7437">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► by you and then oh sorry you didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:01 ◼ ► three stars it's rough world out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7441">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► America I go I go I went back to Zelda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► to relax I played a bunch of America I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► like I need to win I need to relax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► back to Zelda where I've already beaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► the game I'm just like you know doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► the fun side quests and furnishing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► home and doing all sorts of exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► things and that was those much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► you know it's funny you bring up Zelda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► again because um I found that since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► Mario Kart 8 deluxe I am far less less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► likely to play Zelda not because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► enjoy it just as much not because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► not and by pretty much any measure a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► better game but because with Mario Kart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► I can pick it up for like a three-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► or 10 minute you know round and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► kind of play for a few minutes put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► back down whereas for me anyway with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► Zelda I have to be like concentrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► and paying attention and thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► things and and I understand that I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► noob and maybe other people like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► John that a played Zelda for forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► a day don't have to concentrate as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► but for me it's a much more deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7498">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► act and so I found myself playing a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► more mario cards than zelda since friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► even though in many ways I enjoy Zelda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► more and in many ways I do think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► more relaxing or at least a slower pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► I think the Celt is one of the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► that is the easiest to pick up and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:16 ◼ ► something one of these elves is perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7516">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► ever two who have a tiny short gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► session because you'll pick up and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► there are so many things that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► choose to do within two or three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► you don't have to go and do a shrine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► advance the story you can just pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► point on the map and you know fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► travel there or like pick a point close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► by and just go to it and along the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► you will find enemies to defeat new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:43 ◼ ► things especially if you haven't opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7543">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► up the entire map yet and you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► exploring interesting things to see just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► look and say I wonder what's over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► and go over there and when you get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► you find out what's over there it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► interesting thing and you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► like I've when I was super duper into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► playing Zelda like when I was only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7557">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► 10 or 20 hours in it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► normally we just play games on weekends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► but I was at the point where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► after dinner on weekdays I was like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► me just get in five or ten minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► Zelda because there was always something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► to do so you should like maybe if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► going into and say I need to advance the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► story I need to get closer to finishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► the game that there is some sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► oh where was I in my project my project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► of finishing this game that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► that's exactly what I run into is I lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► my context and then it takes me like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► minutes just to remember where I was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► so in a lot of that is just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► have a terrible memory and I and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► and I forget but I think you're right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► I was actively in the midst of working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► on it probably would be a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► yeah like save that for the longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► sessions and for the shorter ones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7605">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► just gather up some food and cook it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:49 ◼ ► go you know beat up some bad guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7609">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► take their stuff or see what's over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► other side of that hill right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► only if you're going to have a longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7616">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► gaming session say okay now how am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► going to progress what area of the Makah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► map and I going to open up and conquer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► next what story thing am I going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► on am I going to pick a side quest for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► my adventure log and do that once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► quest that's for the longer sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► Marco you still haven't really played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► the switch at all are you still with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► yeah I I thought Mario Cart I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► yesterday the day before but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► made a play yet on my switch because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► was told by TIFF that I couldn't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► with her switch and it and I suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► maybe I should bring it to WDC you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► absolutely should but she'll kill you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► and then we could all play on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► switches but then I was also informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► what would she do that week without her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► switch and also I would ever bring mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► why we afraid scratching the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► you never look at no it's not a portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► device to me I'm gonna bring it I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► more I'm not even bringing I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► bring laptops anymore I just bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► iPad and travel light I would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► take a lot for me to to bring the switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► because then you had to bring all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:56 ◼ ► stuff too you know at least the charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7676">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► cable and I would want to bring the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7678">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► controller and then it's like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► never play it I don't bring all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► stuff I just bring the switch and I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► the cable for my MacBook Pro to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► it if I need to right exactly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► actually I'm glad you brought all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► up that brought all this back up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► when you had said you know you only want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► to play it against the TV and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► like it in handheld mode bla bla bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:15 ◼ ► that's totally fair totally reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7695">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► for what it's worth when we were set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► at work a handful of people did bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► their pro controllers but what I did for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► example is I because I didn't have a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► controller until about four hours ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:28 ◼ ► put it in kickstand I put the kickstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7708">TS</a>]
02:08:31 ◼ ► up and then popped out the Joye cons not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7711">TS</a>]
02:08:33 ◼ ► and in my case I slid them into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7713">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► little sheath I don't know what the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► is for that the whole story thing so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► was kind of like a poor-man's pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:41 ◼ ► controller but what a couple people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7721">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► was just hold their joy cons they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► held them you know with their sides or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► whatever yeah I try to put them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► that too to see how it was and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► think that was better than holding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► have the problem of what to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► screen if you have a table then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7734">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► use a little kickstand but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► trying to exact on your lap then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7737">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► have some problems oh it's still not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► me and same thing with Zelda I also try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► playing Zelda and all these arrangements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► hand help with the joy Kahn's on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► help with joy Kahn's off on a table I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► not then it's just like TV wins for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► committed to the per patroller lifestyle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► I mean again I'm not at all trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► argue all I'm saying is that I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► a friendly and lightly competitive match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► at WWDC I really think you'd be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► with just having the joy Kahn's in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► hands perhaps without the whole story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► thing and presumably we'd all be around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► a table or something like that and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► playing in that way although I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► that would be a pretty fun way to pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► the time while we're waiting both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► whatever the Convention Center is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► the Mosconi for the sake of discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► that would be a pretty good way to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQEV1Ls/7787">TS</a>]