00:00:01 ◼ ► thumb thumb thumb thumb anyway max speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► should be higher all right as usual we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► should start with follow-up and as usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► we have a PFS related follow-up how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► we have this every week yes I swear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► you I'm not like intentionally trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► make this a streak it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/17">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► had happening naturally is this like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► bell lobby like influencing us like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► is going on here who knows but live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► Liberty RPF from Twitter writes a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► doesn't support compression yet what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► clusters to compress everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► filesystem level what do we make of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► John I hadn't thought of this before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► there are a couple things about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/37">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► this was a tweet right I'm I also most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► agree my recollection is a BFS does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► support compression but I would not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► am I sure about that maybe not maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► like it actually does have built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► support for the HFS+ compression and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► they just never say anything I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► know but anyway assuming it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► recollection at this point it is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that on Macs even if you never run any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► third party utility a whole bunch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► files that like come with the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► system and stuff are compressed on disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/73">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► compression feature they added many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/79">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► releases ago and you just wonder get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► read from the file system that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/82">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► reinflates to its normal size and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► all transparent to you know the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► the operating system is just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► takes up less room on disk right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► AP FS conversion thing iOS anyway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► like leave all the data exactly where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► is and just make new pointers to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► around I have no idea if iOS uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► HFS+ compression feature but I know max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► do and also on Mac there are third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► utilities that can wander over the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► of your filesystem and compress stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► HFS+ basically oh this file right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► make it be compressed on disk and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► know you could write your own little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/115">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► programs to do this right so on a Mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► is very likely in fact I'm most certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► that you know one or more files are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► compressed now if a Mac is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► the same sort of in-place conversion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► a BFS that iOS devices have you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► weird situation where it can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► leave all the data exactly where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/135">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► because if API us can't decompress stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► compressed because it'll be scrambled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► garbage after you know a BFS point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► students that here's the file data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► you go to read it and it's compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► garbage a BOS has to either know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► decompress that on the fly just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/149">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► HFS+ which seems to me to be the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► solution because then you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► worry about all these issues that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► about to explain or you have to expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/155">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► version which means you need to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► space for them which means you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► have to copy the data to someplace else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► and shuffle things around and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► becomes suddenly a way more dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/167">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► operation than it was before and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► someone's got tons of stuff compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► with hfs+ compression and their disk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► almost full and there's literally no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► because if you were to expand everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► you would exceed the capacity of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► disk so I'm hoping that I'm either just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► misremembering or a BFS has support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► HFS+ compression just transparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► included and it just hasn't been brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► up or they told me and I forgot or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► whatever because that would certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/194">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► simplify things but that's not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► it'll be very interesting to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► happens with the with the Mac rollout of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► AP FS and in which maybe someone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► chat room knows I wish I knew if I OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► also uses HS plus compression I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► imagine it would too is I don't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► battery life I don't know chat room says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► it the iOS does have support support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/217">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► compressed like they are on not all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► them but I don't know if if you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► phone from a store and just take it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► of the box are a bunch of the files on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► the formerly hfs+ disk compressed if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► would done this like a year ago I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► know anyway it will be an adventure I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► still waiting for the Mac roll out of AP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► FS because converting on it all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► phones was boring except for the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► alright moving on uh we got some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► interesting feedback via David Carlton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► about WWDC lunches which is the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► that keeps on living I love so much he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► linked us I actually loved it as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► linked us to the GDC boss-lady blog by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Meghan scavino skivvy oh excuse me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► she writes with regard to the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► purrs conference the other recognizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► will change this year's lunch we reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► the price of conference passes by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► cost of lunch that box lunch that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► all know and love in wish you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► consume five days a week all year round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► is $40 a day she writes I'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► minute to stop choking on your Doritos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► ready yes $40 a day for sandwich chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► Apple cookie and water soda I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► make this stuff up even if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► we decided to give the attendees a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► choice this year spend as much as you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► like by buying from one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► on-site concessions or nearby food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► repositories or pre-order in pay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► $40 a day meal it is now your decision I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► trust you will make the right one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► the catch here which I didn't explain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► that that GDC apparently at the time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► this writing was happening at Moscone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► holy smokes $40 a day for that disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► yeah I mean this is the the story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► story with conferences and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► this is what any kind of any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► like exhibitor of conferences or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► you're gonna like set up a booth a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► conference you've probably gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/324">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► a lot of this crap basically doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► anything inside of a big conference hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/328">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► usually involves dealing with ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► exclusive contractors and exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► vendors and possible Union politics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/336">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► what you think these things should cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► they cost way way way more than that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► this is like you know food service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► exclusive provider for Moscone provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► these lunches and Apple pretty much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► to pay whatever their price is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► they aren't allowed to bring in food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► from anybody else into Moscone it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► kind of arrangement usually it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► you know if you're setting up a booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► for like a small trade show and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► like a Serge strip you can't bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► own search if you have to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► search strip installed by one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► licensed people to install it it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► to cost you $400 like it's it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► kind of thing usually at these at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► large venues so I'm not really surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► to hear this it's it's sad and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► probably makes you angry but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► surprising even when you're not in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► conference center like it at work we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/385">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► have you know food they bring in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► try to bring like healthy food so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/388">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► have like apples and bananas and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and I when I first started doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► heard someone throwing around the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► that each one of those apples was 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/396">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► bucks which you know doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and you just look at the giant pile of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► apples be like oh that adds up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► that's this is in a non-conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► center environment so in general but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► just getting large amounts of stuff in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► place where it normally wouldn't appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► whether it's apples and offices or box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► lunches and at conventions that across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► lot and then yeah they all be exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► contracts and unions makes it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► expensive and remember this this $40.00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► thing this post was from many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► right there was a seven years ago yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► so it's probably like a hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► now so if you if you do this math forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/427">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► actually I guess it's four cuz I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► serve do they serve lunch on Friday just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/434">TS</a>]
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00:14:58 ◼ ► sure that people actually are serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► when they book them so we know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► people are coming so we know how big to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► make the room and then we're working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► something useful and then the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► going to be Monday from 5 to 7 p.m. so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► the idea here is to be after the WDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► State of the Union address which usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► runs until 4:00 or 4:30 but before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/916">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► Dalrymple's beard bash or other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► that might be happening on Monday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► so 5 to 7 p.m. live show WTC Monday June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/924">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► 5th at all conf go to is it all calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/929">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► and yeah so we we look forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► it's going to be you know it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► going to be like any kind of a tragus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► thing where we have like Tim Cook on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► anything I don't mean we could try but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► don't think we'll get him just just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► hunch but but I'm looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► we're going to just you know we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/951">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► to basically just do this in front of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► live audience of between 100 and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► thousand people depending on how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► people respond to I I do expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► stream it live when you say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► mean audio only by is your expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► yes audio I don't think we have any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► of video set up I do have the audio set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/970">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► connectivity holds out and that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► if at conference so I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► guarantee it because basically I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► trying to get some kind of connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► out of a very very full room in a venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/983">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► I've never been in a city I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► been in so it's hard to predict whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► or not I will be able to maintain an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► audio livestream but I'll do my best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► otherwise we look forward to it so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► if you want to come go book a ticket now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► we will put the link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► and so yeah thanks to all con for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► working with us on this because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► what we wanted to really was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► we we want to do a live show but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► didn't want to go through like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► massive ordeal and and hassle and risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► of booking a whole venue ourselves it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► a ton of work to do that and I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► respect the podcasts that do that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► don't have that in us and we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► barely get t-shirts for sale so so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► found a great arrangement with all cough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► that worked out well for all of us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► we hope to see you there yep it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► super exciting most of the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► are very excited about it so please if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► you are interested at all in doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► and you think you will be there please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► go ahead and get yourself ticket buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► ticket and do it now just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► t-shirts to be clear the live show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► we're doing like it's live show you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► come see us live we're going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► stream it and the main thing that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► probably prevent streaming is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► that if the stream craps out Marco can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► fix it because he's on stage so oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► but we're also releasing it as a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► episode this will be our regular WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► episode oh yeah like the point in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► Margot's hotel room or whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► we're releasing this episode so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► feel like oh I'm not going to W ever CLM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► this is when you won't miss it it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► you just want get to see it or hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► live that's it excellent point so news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► this week we've spent a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► since we've spoken to each other I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► missed you too deeply but one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► might be missing soon is touch ID in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► front of my phone because there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► been some very interesting hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► specs and photographs that have linked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► dead of leaked that indicate the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► ID sensor in the supposed I phone eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► maybe on the back of the phone under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► Apple logo and the internet is not happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► about this from what I can tell I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► I don't really know what I make of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► yet I've never really used a phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► the fingerprint sensor on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► however pretty much anyone that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► that has used an Android phone with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► regularity has said that it's fine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► fact some of them have even said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► prefer it even having had used both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► um I'm kind of whatever about this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► not something I feel like I want but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► think I can roll with it just fine I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► know I feel the same way about this as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► did about the lock button moving from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► the top to the right hand side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► phone not really something I want I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► sure I'll get over it and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► how it turned out not really something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► wanted I got over pretty quick so Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► how do you feel about this I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► the same way I've never used a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► with it on the back and I think I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► used to it it would be fine but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► on the front would be better and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► it's more interesting that we don't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► to have a clear picture yet and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► maybe Apple doesn't seem to have a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► picture yet that is merging because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► getting pretty late in the year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► these kind of decisions to not be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► yet like at that point of clarification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► that we needed on this because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► beginning case you said the the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► sensor is on the back under the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► oh the way that has been suggested so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► what's alright what he was referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► is that you look at the link we'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► in the show notes so 95 Mac or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► the shows a picture of the suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► barclayc so if you look at the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► an iphone via there's an Apple logo on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► the back but the Apple logo is towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► the top of the phone right when he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► under the Apple logo he means go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► about an inch from that and pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► dead center in the back of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► below the Apple logo like lower down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► the phone than the Apple logo there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► circular opening and that's where touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► ID would be a lot of people suggest it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► hey if you're going to put something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► the back of the phone why don't you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► the Apple logo also the touch ID sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► obviously the the problems there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► it's not really shaped like a circle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► you know it might be hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► sensor that kind of fills that area and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► still looks nice and blah blah blah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► maybe it's positioned wrong maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► actually do want it more towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► center instead of high up and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► all sorts of aesthetic and functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► decisions that may make them not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► put the touch ID sensor literally in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► Apple logo but the part sleeks show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► there's a cutout for the Apple logo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► then inch lower there's a circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► cutout for the touch ID sensor so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► do you thoughts on this job well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► these these parts leaks we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► into parts leaked season and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► hard time dismissing these as complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► fakes or ridiculous things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► they're starting to look starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► look pretty real to me at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► a real thing that was made by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► for some purpose probably Apple some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► people in the chat room are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► there's no way Apple will do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► they'll never do this because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► an Apple thing to do I totally disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► with that Apple would 100% do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► whether they are going to do it or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► guess you know as every week advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► these things these rumors be the cement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► or they will just go away we won't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► but remember this is the phone we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► talking about that's supposed to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► of the chin and forehead more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► and make the screen go from top to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► bottom edge to edge much more so than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► does now leaving no room for even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► completely immobile touch ID button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► the iPhone 7 there won't even be room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► for a non-moving but no to speech screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► everywhere and so you know the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► rumors were like Oh it'll be screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► everywhere and in fact the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► and touch ID will also be in the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► you can kind of see how they could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► the home button in the screen because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► already have a home button it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► indentation for it which is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► that's another sort of ergonomic issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► of like how do I find the home button if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► there's no little indentation for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► thumb biggest guys feel for the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► of the phone or maybe the whole bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► of the phone is like a home button and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► just force press somewhere near the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► bottom and it takes me home whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► the touch ID sensor the the the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► were supposed to like oh it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► to be harder than they thought to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► touch ID sensor inside a screen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► the screen has lights that come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► in the touch ID sensor you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► like sensor and screen are not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► things how do they combine them in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► that the touch ID sensor works and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► these recent part leaks are part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► narrative they're like oh they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► get that to work this year so instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► they're putting it on the back and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► know people have Android phones with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► touch ID sensor on the back and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► saying like it's fine it's whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► obviously if you put your phone down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► now you can't unlock it unless you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► it facedown but then when you unlock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► it's no good as you can see the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► anyway right you know so that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► disadvantage - people talk about with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► being on the back but otherwise like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► urgh anomic lee speaking it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► better easier to hit the touch ID on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► back that it is touch ID that's at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► very very edge of your phone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► what I mean like it's like if you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► pick where is the best place to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► fingerprint sensor on on a on a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► a featureless rectangle you wouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► let me put it on the very very bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► edge because you kind of got to shimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► your hand down you kind of pinching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► from the edge you could certainly get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► more secure grip if it's hot - these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► sensors were somewhere in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► my main reservation about the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► being in the middle is since I'm someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► who's had a case on all my iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► putting something that you can't put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► case over on the back is somewhat of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► problem slash disappointment for me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► not one of those people that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► had a case that has like a circle cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► out so you can see the Apple logo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► found those cases absurd and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► comical and sad I don't need a cutout to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► show the world my Apple logo and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► if again if you get an Apple case they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► have their own Apple logo on the case as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► a little indentation the people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► still know it's an iPhone it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► I swear but not just for those sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► aesthetic in like image reasons I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► mainly I don't like the cut out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► the cut out that will inevitably have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► be there on any case for this fur for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► Apple iPhone with the touch ID sensor on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► the back is that that basically becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► a lint collecting belly button for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► phone like is another place for I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► rhyming craft to get inside there you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► going to be sticking your grimy fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► in there constantly to unlock your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► and any grime it's on there just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► it wedged in this little scene it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► literally be a grimy linty belly button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► for your phone that's not good it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► doesn't look good it doesn't feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► it makes this Honey sensor farther away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► from you because now you got to dig your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► finger into the little belly button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► find the touch ID sensor the thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► case is the worse that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► think of battery cases how the hell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► gonna get a battery case if it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► to be a super duper any belly button we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► got a poke your finger up there and be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► mess up if you don't use cases on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► phone whatever like it's then there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► big deal right this is easier to all 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► issues but I do use cases and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► want to stick my finger into a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► hole in the case and you know fiddle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► around on a Linde belly button so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► mostly making me either a hope this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► not true or be hope that by the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► know because I episode I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► get this phone I'm going to wait another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► year get the one after that hopefully by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► the next phone they will have started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► out whatever issues with touch ID in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► front and you know I don't want to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► about this I think having it on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► is worse enough than having it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► front that if we were forced to to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► if there was no way to keep it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► front while having the screen go edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► edge like if there is no way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► under the screen I would rather just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► still have the chin like you know make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► the bezels smaller you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► make the screen two to one you can keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► it being 16 by 9 and not do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► Samsung like you know 18 by 9 or 2 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► one thing because no one really needs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► to be taller necessarily like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► keep the keep the chin like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► think we need no one's really asking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► have that go away if the cost is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► to be losing touch ID to the back well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► Johnny I like symmetry I mean I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► you've got a chin on the iMac and no far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► head right but on the phone though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► feel like that silhouette is so iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► you know the like even like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► little outline graphics that they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► you for iPhone that you like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► allowed to use in your app or though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► they won't let him in the App Store it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► rectangle exactly dead center in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► middle and that's basically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► smartphone at this point for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► asymmetrical margins like a chin but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► very little forehead because they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► pull in the edges like you can pull on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► the sides a little bit and shave a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► millimeters right-oh edge to edge screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► especially if they do like a rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► cranny I just like so many the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► past Android phones oh it's a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► it when you see them side by side in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► people's review videos like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► iPhone design the side bezels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► stick out compared to these newer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► you know bezel this ones like the s8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► like Deane yes but it's only a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► millimeters here it's not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► getting back like a full inch if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► took off the chin for it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► matters like I'm saying like if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► if you keep most of the chin you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► even keep the whole chin and just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► enough of it for a touch ID sensor to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► there's there's like two millimeters on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► top and bottom of the touch ID says I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► look at your phone right now there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► a lot of room above and below I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► holding it right now you there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► room about as much room as the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► bezels and also does it need to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► big we don't know they can get a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► one I think it needs to be that big well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► but regardless like I'm saying like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► know it this is all about trade-offs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► right like that we this has been like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► theme of our show is like is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► making the right trade-offs in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► physical designs of things and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► think the the trade-off here is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► touch ID on the back is not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► and if if you keep it on the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► basically like it you know it solves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► lot of problems if you can't get it onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► the screen which I mean I don't know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► lot about screen technology but getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► it under the screen without having it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► like a visible different spot on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► screen when the screen showing an image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► sounds impossible like that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► really really hard that's not impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► I feel like it you know I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► rumor wouldn't have been around so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► if it was literally impossible I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► and the tech is sort of kind there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► sort of kind of pull this off to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► degree but but like the ones they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► never be discussed but you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► like that there's a way to put some what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► to put some kind of like optical you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► know readings or scanning sensor in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► screen that also is showing pixels such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► that if you showed like a solid color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► mean that you wouldn't see the outline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► of that touch ID is an optical is it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► don't know I don't know if I knew had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► touch ID worked I could have a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► informed opinion about this but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► don't but anyway like I would the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► been around so long and I haven't seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► that's impossible stop talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► this which leads you to believe that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► is possible just a question of how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► worse is the sensor you know how how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► less clear an image or you know a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► of your fingerprints does it get so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► feel like it's it's it's possible if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► now then eventually but you know if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► this year then whatever but but getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► back to the idea of leaving the chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► getting rid of the forehead like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► know you can pull in the margins all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► want bottom line is if the margin above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► is not the width of the margin below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► you've got an asymmetrical phone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► weird to me now they did make the phat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► nano so never say never write Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► Apple has been known to make some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► awkward looking iOS that was an iOS size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► battery-powered devices so who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► what they'll do but I first I personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► think that would be an ugly iPhone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► would be the equivalent of the phat nano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► even more so than the thing on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► and so I'm I think it is more likely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► front oh be nice and symmetrical and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► touch ID sensor will be on the back they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► really couldn't get it any other way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► like the final thing is it's got top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► bottom margins that are both equal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► both slightly smaller than they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► before they pull in the sides a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► bit and you know there's your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► people would still like that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► a new form factor it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► iPhone 7 form factor again it is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► phone especially but as you know steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► you know that's steel shiny chrome edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► things sort of reminiscent of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► iPhone and the stainless steel back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► you know all the other thing it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► a new form factor people would accept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► as a new phone it just wouldn't be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► oh I thought this one was only gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► have screen on the front but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► it's still got a tuna for head but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► well yeah I agree I I certainly would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► not complain if touch ID was pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► exactly the way it was it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► only difference is that the bezels were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► slightly smaller but we'll say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► regardless whatever ends up happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► now by the way I think this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► time to revisit while we're on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► everything to take another pass at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► of us saying well how we feel about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► non-moving iPhone 7 home button after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► using it for a year now or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► been mm-hmm because I had occasion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► use my wife's phone recently and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► got a success and that button moves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► then I start off as like out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► buttons it's weird you get used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► it's not quite the same or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► now I'm at the point where when I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► is device with the button actually moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► it feels like junk and I can't handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and I am like a fully converted yep I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► holy convert to the non-moving button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► which does not feel like the old button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► like it's not like oh it's now it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► fooled me it doesn't but all I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► is the way it feels now is the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► expect my phone to feel the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► wiggly shake even how it works when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► phone is sitting on a tabletop like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► those little haptic movements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► whatever my hands are just accepted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► that that's how your phone feels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► when I use phones that don't feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► way and when a thing like presses in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► them it feels junky and crappy to me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► I am a total convert to this which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► me gives me some hope that I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► eventually be a convert to and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► an in screen completely smooth no border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► thing I could be wrong it could be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► I need the little circle to feel with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► thumb right reminder where it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► which is another question by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► they put touch ID in the back is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► little crater on the back or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► totally featureless if it is a crater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► that's kind of weird because you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► the Apple logo and it'll been a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► bit greater belly button blow it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► I I'm here to say that I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► have unbeknownst to me completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► converted to not just tolerating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► non-moving home button but to saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► like the non-moving home button better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► than all the moving home buttons I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► ever used I could not possibly agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► with you more the only time I dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► the non moving home button the static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► home button is when I try to unlock my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► phone when it's resting on a table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► because whatever magic the haptic taptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► whatever feedback does in order to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► you feel like you've clicked a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► it's either completely muted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► point of figuratively speaking silence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► or just very very very soft and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► and that annoys me but in hand I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► problem with it and I believe I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► softest setting I'm going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► come back to it because I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► offhand but I think I'm on the softest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► uh feedback setting - yeah I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► the table thing it may because I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► case like it does feel different when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► it's on the table but I have now come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► like that feeling also better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► pressing like the home button on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► wife's success that's also sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► it is totally weird and is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► than when it's in your hand but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► it better because it feel it's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► I'm used to right and when I push it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► it moves in it feels like I'm breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► the phone and opening up is weird gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► and like feels so clunky or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► I I have been situation and maybe it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► the case that makes the difference that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► like gives it that extra cushion or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► margin for the haptics to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► like where you press it in and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► imagine if you press it in the haptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► didn't go off at all right that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► feel broken on the 7 right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► sometimes I feel like if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► you're on a very flat table a very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► flat table with no case and you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► do it maybe somehow the haptics have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► had nothing to move or vibrate and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► feels a little bit more broken that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► with the case so it could be the case is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► helping me like my own button more but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► either way I'm willing to you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► like it I like it better even in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► so do you are what setting are you on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► terms of that I'm just gonna go look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► that up or is that it it's in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► home button everything in general that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► that's why it's aptly named it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► just be called settings you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► settings and you go to settings no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► with you guys I totally agree I the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► first probably three or four days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► hated it I thought this is a huge step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► backwards I said as much here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► somehow between now and then I've turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► into not only liking it but like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► liking it more than the old buttons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► the old buttons now feel weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that has not happened with force touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► trackpad or the new keyboards on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► books but that has definitely happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► with the force touch home button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► phones and I also would go a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► further and say one of the great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► about the iPhone 7 is that new taptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► engine second generation that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► enabled because it's like I much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► precise Tabak engine that can do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► has like a whole sequencer for for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► things it does and so that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► enabled all the little tiny haptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► feedback things throughout the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► and and now that I am accustomed to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► in so many system standard apps that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► standard controls and Saturn haptics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► everything when I go back when I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► like an iPad that doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► taptic engine and nothing gives me those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► little taps with everything it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► like something's broken it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► what's wrong what is this some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► primitive piece of glass like it makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► so I also am a very big fan of haptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and especially the you know the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► Tabak engine and I look forward to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► know seeing them added to more apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► including probably my own once I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► speaking of haptic feedback and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► complain about overcast things I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► really long lists really long playlists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► and when I try to drag something from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► way way down at the bottom to way way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► at the top the maximum scroll speed has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► a little haptics fire off is way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► slow and I just said there holding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and going dump dump them and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► course overcast refreshes the list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► it Yanks the thing that I was holding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► my hand out of my hand and drops it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► the list wherever it was and I regrab it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and go thump thump thump thump anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► max speed should be higher all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► this the second thing is my fault the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► first thing is the firt like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► tableview and I know but I believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► you I believe you can you can change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► default behavior and make it make it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► faster given what you've done and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► have to do anything else to you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► I'm just going to you a collection view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► speculated maybe collection views will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► replace table yes I saw that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► article the table view is for suckers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► all collection view now well there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► bunch of things that that table view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► still do the collection views don't or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► that you'd have to write yourself but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► threshold after which like I've done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► much work to hack table views that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► doing it in a collection view would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► so probably next time I redesign this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► interface whatever happens I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► looking forward to that but if that ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► happens I will probably do collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► communicate over a higher max crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► speed can ratchet up it could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► slow in the beginning and you're holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► and then it goes faster in fact you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► like the same way the flick scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► where you can you can get it up to speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► because really long list like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► just no recourse is just and well there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► there is a shortcut if you if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► playing out of near the top and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► items the other bottom that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► trying to move all the way up play next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► play next play next play next that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► move them all immediately yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► that was just an aside it's a funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► bring up the the taptic haptic whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► feedback because as an aside the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► day I had a few minutes to kill at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► and the app that I work on we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► scenario where there's like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► cards across the bottom of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► and you can you can slide the cards left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► and right and you know some will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► from off-screen onto screen and then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► back off screen again and this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► the perfect moment to use that feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► and that that tap tap tap is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► scrolling through the cards and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► coming on and off screen and I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► get get it to work just right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► couldn't get the math right such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► when like the card was at the midway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► point off screen it would fire at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► exact right moment it was very wonky was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► probably my fault but I hope to at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► point go back to finish that up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► it it really does work phenomenally well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► when you get it right but getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► right is kind of tough so yeah I am full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► support of third-party app developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► putting that everywhere they can in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► their apps because it's super cool the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► only bad thing about haptics right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► is that we really don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► control over them like the the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that we have are really coarse and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► synthesizer you know treating treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► low-frequency speaker and so apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► theory could have much more creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► and options over the the feeling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► even possibly direction if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► directions of the haptics though that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► not yet exposed in the API but maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► iOS 11 or the future maybe they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► because I would love to do like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► custom stuff there that just isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► possible right now yeah completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► with you all right anything else on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► these iPhone 8 rumors I think at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► point there's there's so many crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► hard to comment intelligently on much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► it well has that ever stopped us before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► and by the way the nine-to-five Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► article there were going a link that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► like the parts like thing the parts link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► was like a drawing which is you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► the best park lease like measurements on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► them and stuff like it's good I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► took a screenshot of that thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► those are so easy to verify like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► down to the you know thousandth of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► millimeter we can verify those when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► real fun comes out if it's exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► dimensions after the thousands the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► milliliter that was probably jet leak if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► they're not then that was just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► made-up stuff but anyway the 95 Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► article has a picture of like oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► a part looks just like that submit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► schematic it's just a rendering of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► schematic like the schematic is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► supposed to leak not this thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► looks like metal and the thing so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► be fooled by thinking someone found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► metal thing and took a fuzzy picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► it is just a rendering also real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► follow-up the touch ID hardware as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► exists today is capacitive which I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► not realize I thought it was optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► yeah so I think it's just like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► really high density capacitively I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► like higher higher precision than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► than the touch sensor on the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► multi-touch screen I assume right yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► mean like a tall thing of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► capacitive stuff the capacitive layering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► this to two aspects one is the layering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► thing where you can make screens out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► a series of layers and one layer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► part that does the capacitive sensing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► layer is the part that has the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► the the color elements and the light up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► bits and you know especially if it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► OLED screen isn't this the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► iPhone supposed to be all OLED and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► everything so yeah usually you reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► number of layers because you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► a light emitting layer and a filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► layer you know pixels themselves emit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► light but either way you have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► bunch of things that emit light and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► in between the light emitting things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► need the sensing things and the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► emitting things don't have to fill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► whole area because there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► light bloom and everything so the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► light-emitting areas can actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► very small and have mostly empty space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► between it's just a question of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► to like either weave that together or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► layer it over each other such that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► know the the the capacitive thing is has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► this fine mesh that's put over the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► of things but you don't notice the mesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► because it's super fine or you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► below the light up things like again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► so I'm just making up random words for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► tech you're by language seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► it should be possible to make a layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► cake that works in some way the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► question is how much worse does it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► the existing touch ID which is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► still has like whatever this is a layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► of sapphire or glass over the capacitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► sensor right so it's still there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► some distance just no light being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► emitted from it and especially if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► just darken that area of the screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► you hold your finger on it let's expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► in touch ID or whatever like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► ways around a lot of the limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► that make me think it is feasible if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► this year then surely in a few years we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2553">TS</a>]
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00:42:46 ◼ ► buy a router with a whole bunch of giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► antennas on it thinking you will finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► cover your entire house and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► finally have coverage in those two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► three back rooms where you never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► coverage before and in practice you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► that big router home and every time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► says it's going to have the best range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and it doesn't cover those rooms it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► Wi-Fi has been broken for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► because we rely on single routers Eero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► has come out to change that Iiro is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► system where you plug in one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► routers as your main one but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► buy more than one you can buy a two pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► a three pack whatever amount you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► they cover about a thousand square feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► each so the typical American home you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► might have two or three of them and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► app that comes with helps you set them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► up in a really effective way and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► blankets the entire house in fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► reliable Wi-Fi way better than a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► mentioned the app is super easy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► tons of great features and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► performance you get is way better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► you get out of a traditional like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► repeater or range extender setup because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► they actually create a backhaul mesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► network separately from the main network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► to communicate with each other and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► form that that huge mesh of Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► coverage in your home I highly suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► you check out Eero and don't just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2637">TS</a>]
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00:44:46 ◼ ► there's been a lot of motion in this um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► this thing called overcast I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► if any of you are familiar with but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► this but apparently the developer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► overcast has been very busy and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► work done and has tweeted the overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► account has tweeted found a fix for m4a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► chapters will return in the next version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► and P 3 chapters continue to work great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► they'll be easier to create soon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► there's a fair bit to unpack here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► let's start with m4a what you do Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► so last episode I described the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► that I was facing where basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► Apple low-level parser would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► recognize chapters in mp3 and m4a files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► if they were named with dot mp3 and dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► m4a extensions and went overcast down as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► a file it doesn't know the the type yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► until tariffs downloading it in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► point I already haven't saving it to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► streaming reasons in any way and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► hack I was doing before was that upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► playback I would temporarily create two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► SIM links to the unex tensioned file one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► of them without mp3 one of them without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► I'm for a have Apple read those for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► metadata parser and then take my data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► from there I had mentioned that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► no longer working with stability on AP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► FS and int n3 sometimes I would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► crashes around those sibling creations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► or deletions and so to avoid these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► crashes I switched to my own metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► parser which only supported mp3 and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► I'll figure out some other solution for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► m48 later I have to fix these crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► now and the solution I came to was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► named all the files m4a and and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► chapters so and my parser is as smart as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► I want it to be and I decided to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► say who cares what the file is named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► just parse and look at these first bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► and you can tell what format it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► responsible for mp3 streaming and I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► apples again for M for A's on the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► all of which are now named M for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► completely bananas all at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► the perfect incarnation of file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► extensions highlighting the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► the name of the file has no bearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► whatsoever on the format of the data it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► contains and it's an absurd system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► Marco is like it's like a satire of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► filename extensions that you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► just naming every file allotted for Ike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► is that crap his meal is accepted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► stupid API that's too stupid to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► what the hell kind of flat file it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► being fed and doesn't let me specify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► just figure it out by parsing the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► name especially like almost all formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► almost all modern file formats even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► stuff as old as mp3 you can usually tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► what format it is by looking at maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► the first 12 bytes of the file at most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► you know sometimes you could tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► even less so the file command does write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► like it's really easy to detect it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► an m4 a always looks the same and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► super easy to see it the and mp3s can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► look two different ways upfront but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► they're both pretty easy to parse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► detect like I wrote code to do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► I'm not a you know super crazy file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► engineer like I just looked up the specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► for these formats oh oh well this format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► has these bytes up front this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► these done like it isn't hard and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► know JPEG and paying those can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► those are like you know eight bytes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► beginning to it's super easy sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► they begin with the letters jpg or gif [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► like literal ASCII text jfif but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah Japheth yeah joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► it's interchange format it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► really matter alright so it also in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► tweet you you had said mp3 chapters will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► be easier to create soon tell me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► ask again later mmm look you all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► I'm making forecasts the only question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► is when it comes out so once it coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► out I don't know probably soon oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► I'm trying I'm putting out some overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► yeah probably soon it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► coming I think it's been more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► year since this since more than a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► since you were willing to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► this program on the podcast in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► and who knows how long before that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► this has been a heck of a gestation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► this program this program that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► have already been using to to do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► its intended purpose for a long time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► you just haven't gotten around to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► point where you polish it up for release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► right there are a few little things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► want to work out but they're like minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► UI issues for the most part it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► you know coming soon and for those who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► don't know forecast is a thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► been charitably in private alpha that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► marco wrote in order to break a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► into chapters and do so easily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► quickly and people in the chat are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► asking about pricing the the honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► answer is that I still haven't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► decided for sure but I'm leaning towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► just making it free but not open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► and and there's lots of reasons for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► maybe maybe I'll talk about it once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► release it if I go this way but the gist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► of it is basically I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► market is going to be big enough to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► it worth charging money for because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► you charge money for things you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► support it in a very different way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► and there's there there's overhead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► that and I just don't think it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► worth it because I think the market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► is going to be pretty small so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► think it's worth charging and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► same time open-source is tricky when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► you're talking about entire apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► libraries and components sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► easy when you're talking about entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► apps though you have a lot of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► with like people ripping it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► uploading it to the App Store under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► their own name and like it's it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► problem for open when you open sort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► so I don't really want to deal with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► and I think the value of open source is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► much higher at the library level than at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► the entire app level that's fair all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► right so you've also been busy with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► Apple watch and we kind of made mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► of this earlier but it turns out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► Apple watch does have a purpose after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► all yes for testing my Apple watch no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► it's divided it's yeah I did a big watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► update we we'd kind of alluded to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► ago and the truth is I've been working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► on offline watch playback for months now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► it has taken a very long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► there's lots of reasons for that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► wasn't the only thing I was doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► during that time you know I did all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► 3.0 it was originally slated to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► headlining feature of 3.0 there are lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► of reasons why that didn't happen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► main reason is that the state that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► it in at the time 3.0 was going to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► it just had too many weird limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► and bugs and I decided it was not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► idea to have to make a big deal out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► this feature to have it be a headlining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► feature of this major update of my app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► and to have it not work very well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► that didn't seem wise to me so instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► push it off to later figuring you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► maybe something will change in watch OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► in the next versions and I can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► do it do it then and there were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► were some other factors involved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► that influenced this as well but suffice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► to say it took a very long time to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► because the way I did it in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► podcast playback on the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► there's a bunch of major hoops you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► to jump through one of them is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► data transfer like the the watch has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► very limited resources in all kinds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► includes bandwidth that includes storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► and processing power and and the API for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► it is very limited so there's certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► things that you can't reliably do one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► the things is that you can't reliably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► just feed at any arbitrary podcast file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► off the internet and expect it to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► so there are limitations in its API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► certain things that it doesn't play or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► doesn't play very well or certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► formats and bit rates to use way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► much power and it actually becomes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► a noticeable load on the watch that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► want to avoid there's also issues like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► if you're transferring it from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► then you have a serious problem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► bandwidth and a transfer speeds you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► just it take it could take out an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► to transfer a podcast file to the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► and oh seriously if you don't compress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► it yeah it could take a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► because that you know a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► sometimes it'll use Wi-Fi if it can but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► Vegas to when and whether it will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► that so you can't really count on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► so basically it's a huge challenge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► get the files to the watch and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► they're on the watch they were there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► massive challenges around there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► few different ways to play audio on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► watch watch OS 3.2 added a couple of big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► things before that which is most of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► development the API is that were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► there were like three different ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► play audio files and all of them had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► like fatal massive problems for playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► podcasts one of them you couldn't set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► the start time of the file so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► started it and then then you close it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► and you want to start it again you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► have to start from the beginning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► somehow have the watch like splice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► file one of my prototypes I actually had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► the watch splicing AAC files every 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► seconds so that you would so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► would be able to like look and play this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► huge post it was I tried a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► and it it was it was a large period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► trial and error let's let's say that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► of the api's that you probably seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► before it you could present a sheet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► that has the file but it only has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► seek back and forward by five seconds at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► a time and there's no way to change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► UI so that is pretty bad also that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► does allow a start a start time which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► fine but if you sort of work out our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► background it then it stops playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► suspect and then there was a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► one the the WK audio file player api [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► because what which is what the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► uses and that has tons of problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► shortcomings and it's bizarre things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► by the way i have i have filed bugs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► have i have been in contact with apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► about all these different shortcomings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► so i've done my duty there but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► i think there i don't think they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► lot of resources to devote to audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► playback on the watch honestly it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► like this is a pretty pretty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► rarely used thing and their resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► are probably elsewhere like iOS 11 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► know so anyway the the one of the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► with the with the WK audio file API is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► things like if your app is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► background and you you initiate a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► that player will just never play if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► you go to note it has some integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► with the now playing glance so if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► to the now playing glance and hit next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► track whatever was playing will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► play again but there's no but it's held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► in the API so you go back to the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► the API says I'm still playing yes I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► playing it 1x but then you just notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► if you pull the time you know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► you say you're playing and you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► you're playing on 1x but the time stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► is not going up so in the version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► store right now I have things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► timers that pull every so often and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► check to see is the timestamp going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► as it should if not tear down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► recreate the entire player there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► many limitations and weird bugs with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► current one what happened in 3.2 well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► first of all 3.2 made it possible at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► to use this API because they added a set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► timestamp method on that so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► could start a file from the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► then they also very quietly with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► comment except from the release notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► they just they added the ability to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► a V audio player like oh yeah it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► well then why bother with all this crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► yes let me use that net and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► point to as far as I know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► I can actually move my entire core audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► stack onto the watch yet some of core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► audio is there I don't know if enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► it is there or if I may be missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► things like audio tool blocks and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► of the little accessory things so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► not I don't think I can actually move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► the entire thing over yet but av audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► players is good enough to do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► except smart speed and voice boost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► it has everything else it has a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► good speed engine it had you know it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► all it is an in process API the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► reason I wasn't using it before in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► version it's in the store right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► that there it wasn't back rounding for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► me reliably enough at least like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► would background sometimes when other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► times I realized yesterday you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► set different background audio flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► in different places for that one than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► you did for the original WK audio player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► once I set those it works perfectly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► nice with some with a few bugs along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► way but it's suffice to say those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► all fixed now as of about two hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► it works perfectly the version that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► currently awaiting Apple's approval is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► this new version with a B audio player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► I should point out a few other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► that I hit along the way one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► things I did early on that took some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► time but was worth it as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► none of these methods on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► support smart speed or voice boost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► if you're accustomed to listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► over catch with smart speed listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► anything else seems kind of broken it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► just sounds wrong and and you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► basic speed ups on the watch but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► have the low level access to the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► stream to be able to do smart speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► so what I did instead was on the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► experimented and found something fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► transcoding the files on the phone if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► you have smart speed enabled it bakes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► smart speed that's kind of bananas you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► know whatever settings that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► play that play the track on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► if you have it say you know play at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► Smart speed at 1.25 X then it will play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► on the watch at one point two five X and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► I don't have smart speed baked in I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► not able to do voice boost yet and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► is due to some low level implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► details basically if I run this through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► an audio graph it is ten times slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► and it transcodes at about 12x real time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► if I don't run it through audio graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► and just process the samples raw it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► at about 110 112 X on an iPhone 7 so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► can transcode you know a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► faster than real time by not using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► graph so doing it doing it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► graph is just too slow to really ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► that and so there's no voice Boost yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► have not yet written my own voice boost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► that doesn't use a combination of audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► units I plan to but I haven't yet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► a low-level thing that will be a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► project someday but it's it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► happened yet so that's why there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► voice boost but there is smart speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► because smart speed is a combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► C functions not audio units so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► long story short when you you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► you send a file to the watch the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► transcodes it it transcribes it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► down down to a lower bitrate I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► whole bunch of testing to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► like what is the best low bitrate way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► for spoken audio to to be heard on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► watch obviously there is some quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► loss so the it's it's just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► balance of how do i balance because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► bigger the files are the much longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► they take to transfer to the watch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► me that a whole bunch of testing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► HEA AC and AAC and and even things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► some of the newer formats the OGG what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► is it opus I don't know if it's sorry if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► it's not officially odd but it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► those people the new opus format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► there's a whole bunch of other stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► that would have been harder to decode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► because the watch doesn't support it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► anyway I did a whole bunch of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► stuff I'm transcoding to that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► phone on demand baking in smart speed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► also has a few other cool optimizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► for example if you are halfway through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► podcast and you say send to the watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► only sends the second half because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► there's no reason to send the part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► already listened to anyway here's all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► secrets that's how you do it and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► whole lot of work but now I finally have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► offline watch playback and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► version that will hopefully be approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► in the next day or two it'll be way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► better because it'll move to this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► API it's way more stable and has speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► output and everything else so it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► it's been quite a trip oh not to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► the whole system of like syncing between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► the watch and the phone that's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► you have to sync your progress and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► lose stuff and not have stuff clobber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► itself during a sync and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► it's been it's been some quite quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► lot of effort and all of this is for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► feature that relatively nobody will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► and it's hard to justify this but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► there's a few reasons why I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► was worth it you know right now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► according to my analytics something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► you know you know half a percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► people are using it or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► and I you know I haven't done a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► job of promoting it so a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► don't know it's there yet but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► there's there's not a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► are going to use this feature but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► a very high demanded feature and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► the kind of thing where like you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► what I've done is while testing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► headphones to my watch and so it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► forces me to use my watch more as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► podcast player because I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► run pair and repair my headphones back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► to my phone every time I like leave to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► walk the dog so I've kind of gotten into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► this habit over the last week or week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► two and and really you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► gotten into this and it is pretty cool I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► it's not as good as using a phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► you have to carry a phone and for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► of people people have been begging me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► since the watch came out this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► one of the top featured or one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► top feature requests for overcast since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► the watch came out because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► people either can't or don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► bring their phone certain places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► they can bring their watch it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► common request for example in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► kinds of exercise like jogging where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► lot of people don't want to carry their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► phone or it's too clunky or it's in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► kind of inconvenient like you know arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► thing or backpack or something else then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► they want it to be totally on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► watch so I understand that I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► probably never going to run in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► but I understand the people who do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► that's so like it matters a lot to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► small number of people that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► of thing I enjoy doing you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► it's never going to be worth it by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► numbers but I do enjoy doing it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► because of how much it matters to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► small number of people and the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► it also I think business-wise it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► also be a safe bet it might also be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► good thing to do because you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► likes it for one thing so you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► probably makes my app more likely to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► featured by Apple in the future maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► increases my chances of getting an ad a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► one can hope I never really think I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► a chance of that but I really want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► so one can hope right I also I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► that it's the kind of feature kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► like when people buy SUVs and like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► if I need to haul something some day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► they never haul anything right but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► podcast apps that are out there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► you might think oh I want that even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► you never end up using it or you hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► ever use it that might have still helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► me you know get that sale or get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► overcast instead of something else so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► think in it for a lot of reason I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► it is probably worth having done it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► take a lot longer than I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► would and a lot more work than I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► it would and it's not done either like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► there's what I have now is a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► where you still have to manually send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► episodes one by one to the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► they still take forever to transfer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► I'm not entirely sure I can ever really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► fix the taking forever transfer thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► I'm you know that might just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► like wait out the hardware advancements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► but like you know sending one by one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► the watch is also not great people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► requested things like automatically send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► playlist to the watch and that has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► own challenges and limitations like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► instance I don't really know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► space I have to deal with and but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► see if you tell people you can send this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► playlist to the watch I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► design this feature for my place which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► might have like 15 podcasts on it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► most and then somebody like John is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► going to use it and they're going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► to sync 400 audiobooks to it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► gonna be mad when it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► because there's no one there's not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► enough space in the watch which I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► even tell as the programmer so it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► doing anything more because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► constrained nature of the watch is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► to be harder than doing those same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► things on the iPhone it's also going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► be like massive UI challenges right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► people are already asking for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► like chapter navigation on the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it's like it's really hard to fit a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► UI that is both attractive and usable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► that watch screen and it's everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► people want me to do with this feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► is is going to be hard to do basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► but I think I finally got the basics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► hopefully we'll be shipping around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► time this podcast comes out the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► hopefully already will have that now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► and it's going to be great and I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► of glad to have it finally be done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► now I have a reason use my watch again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► yeah so have you been using the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► for anything other than podcasting uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► well you know I use it on my dog walk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► you know I still prefer mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► watches greatly for general use in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► general wearing but the Apple watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► as the entire world Plus Apple have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► figured out over the last you know year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► or two whatever it's been the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► watch is pretty good for fitness stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► and so I haven't quite enjoying on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► dog walks being able to track the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► time and distance that I have gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► and get my school GPS map of it if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► ever want that it will probably remain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► my like taking walks watch but for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► I prefer mechanicals for other reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► did you get a series too I mentioned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► GP are you saying because you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► phone with you that's why you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► GPS trace no I actually did get a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► - I got a series - this past spring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► this past winter while testing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► because the build run debug loop on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► Apple watch is so incredibly slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► because the the hardware is really basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► building run and build and run and debug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► it's all going also through your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► and into the watch over Bluetooth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► whatever it's very very slow the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► we're like changing something on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► watch and building and building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► running might be like a 45 second long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► cycle and when you're doing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► that that time really adds up and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► so as suit like after like a day of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► trying all these deployment methods in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► the watch I went to the Apple Store guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► serious - I'm like because I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► underscore like is it faster and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► actually of course he timed it of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► he knew like exactly - the sellers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► it was something like 20 seconds faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► on the serious - I'm like done sold if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► you can save me 20 seconds every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► time I'm building and running on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► watch that is going to add up and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► so I do have a series - I'm very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► glad I got the series - because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► immediately and an incredibly apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► so what series - did you get I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► you're just getting it oh I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► something that's faster for me to do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► builds on right but then did you go okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► well since I'm buying one which one do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► want what color dwell on what bands like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► what did you get you know I did go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► through a lot of that that that d-bags I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► think I'm like I'm just getting it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► development I should just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► aluminum basic cheapo the cheapest one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► can get like you know just get down I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► should even tell you every fiber of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► in theory I don't even need the series - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► I could have gotten this series one same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► no GPS no GPS and not super waterproof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► so I could have gotten that but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► again your inner Markos is now well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► so I'm accustomed to now wearing nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► watches the reason I got in ties it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► a need to have a watch that lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► live in the style to which you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► become accustomed the reason I got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► nice watches is because I fell in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► with how the Apple watch made me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► when I looked at it on my wrist that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► why when the Apple watch first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► crazily over which bands to get which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► color combinations worked like I I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► over this for like weeks I was agonizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► like Oh will this man be more convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► to latch or this one or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► and so it mattered a lot to me and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► I really enjoy the way the steel watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► looks I and I really unfortunately don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► enjoy the way the aluminum ones look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► aluminum ones to me look a lot like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► phone on your wrist the steel ones don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► look like an analog device by any means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► but I think the steel ones are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► agonizing that I wanted a steel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► again the only way to get a steel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► was to get the series two you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► can get the series one and steel so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► got the series two and I got the steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► and I have it on I think it came with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► Milanese because the only one I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► get in stock which I immediately sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► and I'm just using my old sport band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► with it it makes me a little sad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► you haven't decided to come crawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► back to the Apple watch but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► teach their own like what you like no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► mean it it has a no question and has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► lot of utility but it also has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► things that's not so great about and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► like man like when I'm wearing it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4240">TS</a>]
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01:10:45 ◼ ► periods every time I turn my wrist to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► look at the time it doesn't show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4248">TS</a>]
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01:11:11 ◼ ► notifications all day and stuff I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4271">TS</a>]
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01:11:16 ◼ ► notifications I don't like having a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4276">TS</a>]
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01:11:41 ◼ ► get the Earth Day badge I did not I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► get reminded about the Earth Day badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► on Earth Day but I had dismissed and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► not get it I didn't get it because was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► disgusting weather over here I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► get that one I did get the turkey day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► one but I did not get the earth day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4317">TS</a>]
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01:12:02 ◼ ► haven't put your watch on in months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4322">TS</a>]
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01:12:06 ◼ ► whole week why did you wear it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4326">TS</a>]
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01:15:17 ◼ ► yet another tick in the uber is gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► box it seems like uber has been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► private a api's to read Iowa iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► serial numbers and/or they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► a couple years ago they were reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► iPhone serial numbers reporting them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► to their own servers and thus this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► allowed them to track installations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► between deletes so you could install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► uber it would look at your phone serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► number let's call it one two three four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► five it's the same combination I have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► my luggage and then uh it you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► delete the app it would you could then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► reinstall it later it will see that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► serial numbers still one two three four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► five and it would say haha this is user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► abcdefg and so allegedly they were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► this for fraud prevention which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► legitimate explanation I think but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► just feels super gross and so the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► goes that Tim Cook called in Travis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► kalanick Callen ik whatever his name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► the really skeezy head of uber and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► basically said if you don't get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4583">TS</a>]
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01:16:27 ◼ ► from the App Store and guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► happened they got rid of it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► think there's that many interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► things to discuss here but perhaps one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► of you has some thoughts that I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► thought of yet I mean to me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► main interesting part here I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4599">TS</a>]
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01:17:08 ◼ ► was worth mentioning is and first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4628">TS</a>]
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01:17:50 ◼ ► way to do it they're walled off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► apps IO kit is technically not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► these in its the role of Ayoka dismal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► iOS is mostly to read data about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► hardware and a lot of things that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► the UI device API are just thin wrappers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► around UI kit calls things like reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► the the screen brightness level or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► system wrappers around IO kit call sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► yeah or the system battery level or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► information about the hardware this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► where things like the UDID used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► although now that's that's no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► available and Apple is pretty good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► like any any way that you that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► to to youth identify phones Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► been slowly getting rid of the i/o kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► for whatever reason as I said like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► it's not in that walled off area where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► the rest of the private frameworks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► so that it actually is callable but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► undocumented at least iOS and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► you know officially forbidden a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► bruise beam all sorts of tricks to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► being detected so I think there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► are two angles of this that are worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► talking about one is is it possible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► Apple to prevent the use of private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► api's on a large scale the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► usually prevent it is during a preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► they have some kind of special testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► environment where if an app calls a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► private API during a preview or if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► has a private API symbols like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► in the app so if it has like the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► a private function in the code Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► automatically for that but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► ways to get around this one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► dynamically or you couldn't you can not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► have the name of the function in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► code you can have a scrambled string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► that encode you unscramble at runtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► and then call that that's usually how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► these things are done and again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► doesn't work for calling super private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► but it does work for calling private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► methods on public things or for for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► the framework of I okay which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► weird kind of middle ground where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► kind of technically public anyway do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► think there is a way for Apple to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► fix that yeah it's kind of the halting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► problem thing where can you tell me here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► is this program can you tell me how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► program behaves you know in the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► case no not really but all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► you're talking about all you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► something gets through your system it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► was clearly done intentionally and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► in the uber case one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► stories about this is that the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► were getting around is you know have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► these secret ways of dynamically loading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► the code and a lot of stuff but just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► be safe don't do that when the GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► detects that you're somewhere within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► Apple's campus right to the geofence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► like the Apple campus and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► when you're inside this perimeter don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► ever try to do the sneaky thing only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► when you're outside this perimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► somewhere else on earth then do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► sneaky thing to call a private API so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► that case like you know the trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► detect hey is the program doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► like in general no there's no general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► purpose computer Bowl reasonable time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► you know because it literally isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► calling the bad API and you know then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► you have to detect how can I tell if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► is doing something let's know when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► shouldn't do the naughty thing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► doing you know but but again you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► make the test hard enough so that if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► is doing that someone can't say oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► just did that by accident I was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► bug right now I didn't mean to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► at all it's so clearly intentional like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► at the point where you're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► scrambled strings or assembling symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► names out of a bunch of scrambled data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► spread all over your program right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► there's no way you can you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► explain that away first is say oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► called an apple API on the Apple API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► called a private thing that accessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► some files of the sandbox and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► totally not my fault and it happens all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► the time at be like oh yeah I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► you know eventually you can convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► Apple this I was not doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► intentionally bad this is just some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► know something that you didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► code and I'm doing the right thing let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► just all get through it so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► that's all they need to it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► what they're currently doing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► that is that's probably sufficient I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► thinking to like the environment they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► have an app review that automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► detects whenever this boundary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► crossed that that you know your app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► calling something private that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► shouldn't be what if they could deploy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► that to iPhones and maybe not to all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► phones because I assume there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► degree of overhead involved here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► maybe would make it to power inefficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► or too slow but what if they deployed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► to say a large group of Apple employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► phones you know like what would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► would probably catch a lot of things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► popular apps right so like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► whatever environment they have to detect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► these things in a preview spread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► out wider maybe they have like a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► bunch of virtual iPhones in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► that that you know simulate using apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► and they track them on those they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► legatus override GPS like to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► the geofence oh sure like if you're once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► you're running this faked environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► hard-code the GPS to be Antarctica or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► something and you're you know you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► everything else so anyway I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► expanding that virtual environment would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► be one way to do this whether they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► tripwire environment whether it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► simulated things in the cloud or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► it's both or who knows I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► could they could do a lot there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► second thing I wanted to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► about the uber thing though which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► think is probably more interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► the dynamic here of this large app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► violates of rule in a pretty big way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► like really obviously you know knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► it willfully violating it blocking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► apples campus area so they wouldn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► it uh you know evading detection do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► like it obviously this was not like whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► I accidentally call the serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► function like no this is like willful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► violation and malicious intent to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► know evade these these rules are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► for very good reasons in order to invade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► people's privacy like it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► bad and it you know if I did that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► overcast I would be kicked out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► and there would be no recourse I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► be lucky if I was even told the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► and that would be it I'd be gone but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► Facebook does things like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► they're applix they do and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► caught sometimes and they say it's a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► sorry we left the owners fishing running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► constantly in the background when you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► you know they face because all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► twitter has twitter it's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► awful things with you know tracking apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► that are installed and everything apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► locked out most of them but and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► know you then you have goober doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► crazy craft like this and again and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► their crazy location stuff oh we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► your location all the time now and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► sorts of creative stuff if a big company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► breaks a rule even in the most brazen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► outrageous way like this they get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► meeting with Tim Cook where Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► calmly expresses his disappointment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► them and like any good to have it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► out man I would not want to be in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► but and and sternly tells them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► you're gonna stop doing this now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► that's that's certainly a stern warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► treatment that is being incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► generous towards this company that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► literally defrauding you like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► it's there they're doing really there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► no way to read this charitably right why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► wasn't ever just kicked out of the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► Store and I think the answer to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► interesting so like I have some theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► you know obviously there's a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► like who needs who more right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► think the answer is okay I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► could afford to do that you know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► i think eibar needs Apple more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► Apple needs uber but you do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► think about it just for a second like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► you know how many customers would Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► lose by doing that like it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► not zero you know so that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► you have to think about right it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► be even worse if that was Facebook you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► know like it's so like there are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► big companies that Apple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► doesn't wield complete power over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► direction as well and uber is big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► that I think it's one of those Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► is certainly one of those Facebook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► probably the biggest one actually when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► you talk about iOS apps me except maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► maybe YouTube or Google Google Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► would about to be pretty high up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► but but Facebook I think is far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► biggest so if there's that angle of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► Apple maybe can't kick out some they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► like too big to fail if they like too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► big to kick out okay also if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► like Facebook or uber got kicked out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► the App Store they'd probably sue Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► and what would be the result of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► lawsuit would they bring up any trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► would Apple be at risk of maybe having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► to give up some of their control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► the App Store for antitrust concerns or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► for other legal concerns like would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► be at risk of giving up app approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► I don't think over would sue Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► don't see anyone suing Apple for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► like yeah I hear people talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► sometimes but they're their big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► with that first of all Apple has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► money than you like whoever you is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► has more money than you right so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► general it's good when people have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► of money you want to sue them and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► some of that money but it's bad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► you're going into a lawsuit that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► turn out to be like this long-running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► thing because you will run out of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► before Apple does and second the suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► for the case for antitrust on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► grows weaker by the day as Android is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► like 80% smartphone market share and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► growing you know worldwide it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► trough to make that sell and third the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► whole app store agreement everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► I feel like pretty ironclad and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► leave any room and your only hope would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► be to say yeah but it's a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► situation because Apple has a monopoly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► on XY and Z like it is it's so difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► I feel like there's almost no legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► recourse the only the best way you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► go is maybe defamation example a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► say uber was doing a naughty thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► they could say no we weren't Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► you know whatever whatever they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► equivalent of defamation for companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► there's probably maybe it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► thing but I don't see the antitrust as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► being a certain I see I see this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► the the first thing you said that'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► similar situation that I think we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► experienced in some way directly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► indirectly in the u.s. anyway has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► fights between cable companies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► channels right where there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► disagreement about how much does it cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► to get HBO or ESPN on the cable package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► this is going back in time a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► back when people select cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► there would be this this standoff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► same way this is a standoff between Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► Cook and uber or whatever like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► Facebook is totally the biggest one say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► Facebook does nasty things Wyatt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► Facebook and I could kicked out why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► they get like a stern talking-to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► it's a game of chicken it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► know that we can kick you out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► store and we know that you know that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► we kick you out of the store it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► disastrous for us in our platform but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► might just do it anyway to teach you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► lesson like temporarily and so they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► stared at each other you know waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► see who who twitches first and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► cable companies in the channel is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► often against to the point where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► like sorry you know Comcast is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► going to have ESPN writers no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► going to carry Yankees games on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► channel whatever and then it's a PR war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► between the cable company and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► channel to say call the the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► company and tell them you demand to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► the channel back and the cable company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► says call whatever and tell them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► you demand to be more reasonable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► we can't pay you know what I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► that game of chicken usually doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► last that long and what always ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► happening is the channel comes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► the cable carrier in most cases if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► an important enough channel because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► the end an iPhone without Facebook is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► bigger problem than an iPhone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► Facebook that violates the rules every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► once in a while and asked and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► and then like you Yelp them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► catch them and they fix it right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► like and the people don't know who to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► blame why can't I get me again anymore I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► turn on TV I can't get the channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► anymore I'm going to change cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► writers if I can at all if I can't kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► four hours I'm just intricately angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► but I can't change providers you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► that's the one channel that was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► important channel to me I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► change providers people would change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► phones that they couldn't get Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► it's like you can get an iPhone but oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► heard the iPhone does that Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► anymore they will get a different phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► that's the kind of power Facebook ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► have that power probably not as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► their alternatives to yada yada yada but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► that's that's the whole that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► relationship here so I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► know I don't think you need to bring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► threats of lawsuits or other things into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► it I think you just need to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► the power dynamic of customers want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► app the app makes your phone more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► valuable if your phone doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► app it's totally a PR war like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► imagine like uber no longer on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► phones and you know maybe that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► big deal because people will have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► the other terms but it but if even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► guess what Facebook no longer on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► phones that story would last like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► years people saying I was going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► an iPhone but I heard they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► facebook three years ago I heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► Facebook like that was just for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► weeks it's like well now too late it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► already out there got an Android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► again so yeah Apple does not want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► and speaking of relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► Apple and important software companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► software companies at various times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► Apple has been not as rich and powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► this is now even more had even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► influence over what Apple does the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► most recent example is Apple's entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► modern operating system plan to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► get away from classic Mac OS to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► something to replace it with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► Microsoft and Adobe two companies saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► yeah we're not going to make apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► that and the Apple said well this note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► whatever plan we thought we had that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► thought was all awesome and we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► cool codename for it that but it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► know forget it because if it's apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► adobe aren't on board and we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► convince them there's no point in us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► even doing this because a Mac that can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► run Microsoft or Adobe software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► pointless and so they didn't and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► the rapp C plan and said they did Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► 10 with carbon and that got those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► on board and that's like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► biggest most important decisions Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► ever made the life of the company at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► stake and who essentially ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► you know having veto power over what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► Apple does to third-party software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► application and these days I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► Facebook into a Facebook and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► Google /youtube and then a few other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► people to a lesser degree have veto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► power over a huge number of platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► and there is you know Android I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► like it's more power because if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► can't put your application on Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► smartphones that's the big problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► applications because they're a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5578">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► percentage and the whole point of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► phone is you get the best stuff and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► get it the soonest and if they take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► surprised at these sort of two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► yelling at each other and you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► naughty and getting caught and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► around in circles I don't see any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► that's going to change unless the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► dynamic changes and in the meantime if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► the power dynamic is not like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► you are just marker with one application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► you didn't have to play those games to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► view they can just shut you down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► that's that's the way it is and makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► perfect sense and no sense getting upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► about the double standard just learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► be smart and hide in the rocks if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► a little mouse all right well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► asteroid comes you'll be the one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► survive and it turns out okay well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► specifically Mouse will be dead but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► it'll be fine let's took a turn thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► Squarespace Eero and fracture and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► see you next week now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► was accidental oh it was accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► notes at 80 P dot F M and if forensic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► Twitter you can follow them at CAS II WA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► L is s so that's Casey list and a are Co [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► AR m and T Marco Arment and I are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5678">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► John you have made a long trip you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► gone on a grand adventure would you call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► a tour yeah you could call it a grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► tour actually I would love to know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► unfortunately for you I came back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► the UK and did another podcast where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► talked about all the stuff that was last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► so who got to you first you got scooped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► you got scooped by Merlin Merlin did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► rise right we did breakfast we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► about travel stuff well fortunately we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► can probably release faster than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► can yeah there you go see that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► the spirit anyway what do you wanna know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► I covered I can cover different stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► suppose okay so how was that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► plane travel you went direct from Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► to Heathrow yep it was fine it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► I've been lucky on my flights recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► not really bumpy at all straight forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► I went British Airways and we didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► like the fancy class but we didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► like the cheapest one it's like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► one is in the middle as far as I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► tell it is exactly the same as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► cheapest seats except for you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► slightly more legroom which I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► it because I get long legs but yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► was nice there was there was USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► in the back of the seats which I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► seen before which is you know convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► on the way back I think it's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► time I've ever flown on a 747 did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► stare out the window for six hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► whatever took you to get there and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► oh my god so so your poor wife is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► sitting there basically doing your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► thing she's not suffering she she well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► playing Sudoku and watching movies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► whole time time flew by on the way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► she's like I didn't even notice that six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► hours just flew by she's obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► sodoku lately so she just like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► were if you were to take movies every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► was like this person is just staring at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► occasionally she would move or twitch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► some way but mostly stare at the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► indeed indeed fair enough all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► you traveled to Heathrow what were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► of the highlight of this what were your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► favorite things that you participated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► probably even before we got there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► food I had on British Airways going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► London was the best airplane food I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► ever had with the possible exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► chocolate chip cookies which anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► even remembers what Midwest Express was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► knows that that was a good peel and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► had metal silverware ever crying a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► Midwest expressed r.i.p unless they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► still alive voce sorry but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► flown them in years but yeah the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► you know everything's relative it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► but the airplane food on the way out was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► like you know full English breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► thing but imagine like the airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► version of that and it was passably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► edible which is it watches the halibut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► boy glue review especially the eggs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► know it eggs are like on planes like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► even bother like I expected them to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► be like a complete write-off but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► ate them and on the way back it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► bangers and mash type thing so first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► all they had like stereotypical British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► type food and like I'm gonna say both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► them are better than WWC lunch easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► people they also cost you more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► $40.00 oh god they I don't know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► to factor that how much it costs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► these plane tickets how much that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► paying for that meal but anyway there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► was a lot of food there was variety and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► every part of it was way better than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► thought it would be for airlines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► modern airline food like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► what like old style like in the 60s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► airline food was like real food but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► for all my life with the exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► Midwest Express airline food has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► been grim and so this was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► better than grim so I was happy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► that okay so you stare out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► for six hours you don't play any Selda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► or anything like that you're staring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► the window I can't I can't look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► screens I can't watch a movie all I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► do is listen to podcast which is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► what I did I forgot to bring as I as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► tweeted I forgot to oh yeah I had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► lightning to a headphone adapter which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► only realized literally as I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► what let me get all my stuff plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► now so what did you end up doing you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► something Bluetooth so oh well so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► figured out why I did it first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► like this is not the first time I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► flown with my iPhone 7 I've had it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► like launch or whatever whenever I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► like it's not the first time I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► I've flown with my iPhone 7 before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► I've remembered to bring the adapter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► think the problem is I fluid that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► brought the adapter because that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► worried like can you first get the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► got a phone with no headphone jack I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► a remember I got to think about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► a friend of mine you know I got to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► about it right and then you do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► you remember and you bring it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► like your brains like well you solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► that problem now you never need to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► about your phone again but you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► because every time you fly you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► make sure the adapters in there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► anyway now I have two adapters one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► which is permanently in the case with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► noise-canceling headphones so problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► solved there on the way out what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► was I took my earbuds which I had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► me because I know I'm an over-packer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► like my lightning year buds that came of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► the phone I put them on my ears when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► put the noise cancelling headphones over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► the year buds so I could have noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► cancelling and also a podcast right I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► forgotten about that oh my god that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► actually ended up working yeah totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► what did you guys do the first day so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► you arrived what time of day did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► arrive we had like a morning flight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► we got up an ungodly hour got off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► 4:00 a.m. to get our flight out and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► anyway by the time we get there it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► by the time I think got to the hotel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► was like dinnertime I think I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► exactly like you're so scrambled up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► the flying but anymore the whole day was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► shot all day because you're going going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► to go east what do we do for the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► days we did like all the touristy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► you can do in London you name some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► touristy thing you can do in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► chances are we did it tell her yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► right uh cheer with Churchill's war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► rooms yes did you like that it's fine ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► Sean for Tina the British Museum they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► saw Big Ben Parliament Westminster Abbey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► Windsor Castle like we did all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► things we you know I had fish and chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► tell me how amazing the fish and chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► were oh I don't like fishing Josefina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► would like oh god bless of America or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► god save the queen whatever I like fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► I got but I got a I don't like fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► either but I like fish and chips now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► got a pretty good pub sandwich made with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► sauce a lot of things in England have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► sausage in them and I like sausage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► so I had them and they were good we ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► a lot of different restaurants and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► sorts of different kinds of food got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► see some some people that we both know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► it was nice the kids weren't with us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► case this isn't cleared everybody we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► sent the kids away to their grandparents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► the Marco move could move up yep this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► the first time we'd taken a vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► without our children since they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► born so it's first first vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► without children first first vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► that's been period that wasn't visiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► family since our honeymoon because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► like we had our honeymoon which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► like a vacation that not to visit family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► was just to listen after that pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► somewhere to go you know what visit one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► of our families to go somewhere with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► family and then the kids were born in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► their vacation at the very least is with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► them so so you haven't had a vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► yeah well well this is this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► this thing is supposed to be our 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► wedding anniversary thing or 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► wedding anniversaries this summer but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► like you know fitting it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► schedule and when the kids off of school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► and camp and all the other applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► is the time when it fit in basically so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► so yeah it was nice it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► pretty sight it was mostly relaxing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► we did so much walking it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► most the most exercise and walking I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► done in a long time like like I posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► the pedometer plus plus graphs of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► we did but like I'm on the second day we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► did like over 30,000 steps in over 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► miles and the average was over 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► steps for each day or not not a ten-ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► sorry over over 10 miles for each day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► and I had my watch and I was counting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► steps that way but I had my phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► airplane mode so didn't have GPS my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► had her series to watch and her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► with an actual data plan on it so hers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► is more accurate and her numbers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► even bigger than mine and we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► going to the same places so we did a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► of walking and I'm an old man the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► of my feet hurt poor baby something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► great vacation I just like I love at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► mind-blowing to me that you've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► zero real vacations you know ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► and it's it's I'm trying to picture like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► are you are you able to suspend and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► say this in the most loving way possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► as a friend are you able to suspend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► to enjoy a vacation I am awesome at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► vacations I am better than most people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► vacations I have no problem relaxing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► better here's what I'm better at my idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► of a vacation is relaxing and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► nothing people who want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► vacation where it's like we got to go we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► have a plan we got to see this we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► see that I'm the opposite of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► think those people are not good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► vacations where they like we have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► and see every possible thing there is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► do and see and we have a schedule we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► to wake up early and like wake up early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► that's not a vacation like my vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► is where you do nothing in a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► place that's my ideal vacation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► there's a compromise vacation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► we're going we're traveling somewhere I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► don't like to travel but it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► big of a deal it's not that long of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► trip we're doing touristy things what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► we're trying to do them at a relaxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► pace and I don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► kids complaining the whole time so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► kind of do whatever the hell we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► do and be like you know a lot of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► like let me do let's walk because we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► like go do this thing and then we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► say like well what else is near here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► we you know find some place to eat near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► here then go do that thing and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► like it's like a random walk through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► London it's just all different places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► and all Big Sur we went to went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► Regent Street Apple Store we went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► like every Park in London we walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► through at some point or another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► it's just nice being able to just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► what do you want to do next I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► like I like not having a plan and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► saying like vaguely speaking there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6298">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► lots of interesting things we might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► to go see but let's just go wander to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► my ideal vacations are the vacations we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► take actually with our kids and my side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► of the family on Long Island where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► just sit on a beach all day for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► that's my ideal vacation but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► people don't like that right although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► Marco is coming around to it but I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► indeed come around to it I think both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► us have because Marco and I during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► run of the show I think we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► tit-for-tat on who hated the beach more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► and I think that the both of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► basically happened over the last like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► year and a half or so I've always loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► the beach and a lot of people hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► not just because they might hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► beach because like what are we even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► doing here who wants to sit in the sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► all like what are we doing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► understand what we're doing it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► beautiful place even with the kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► with the family the kids just go off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► run and do the thing they do it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► little bit more stress of me like making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► sure my children don't drown you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► when we go to the ocean but yeah but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► other than that that's that's my ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► being in a familiar place with good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► and no plan except to go to the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► every day and then come home and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► delicious dinner than eat briar mare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► pies and just yeah but we've done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► every year for many many years I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► deprived that I get that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► right and so this was more of a vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► of like more in a more traditional sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► and then we went to you know Disney with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► the kids which was the let's do a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► family vacation with the kids and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► happiness may be you know we both love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► Disney too right so it wasn't that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► deal but anyway gotta have the two kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► got to make sure they're happy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► vacation is mostly for them this one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► for us but mostly for my wife so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► we're not we're not big vacationers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► every once in a while we we try to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► and I'm sure this will be the thin end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► building up to like when it'll retired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► and her kids are gone and she's dragging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► me all over the globe so you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► preparing for that was this your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► international travel I've been to Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► then to not just not just like Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► like just over the border but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► easternmost point in North America still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► doesn't count I've been out on a boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► past the easternmost point in North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► America next to an iceberg that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► exotic hmm I do like in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► listener see grin made an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► distinction he said doing all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► stuff is travelling doing nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► vacationing I think that's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► good distinction what you what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► and what we like to do now on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► is vacation where we used to do nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► in a beautiful place as you said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► doing all kinds of stuff in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► place that's traveling right traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► is like you want to see as much as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► can see and so you are waking up early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► and going and doing this and that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► day so I can't with the distinction well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► you call Disneyland a vacation though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► vacation and Disney is one of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► place for people like oh gotta wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► got to get in this line gotta do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► got to see all these things but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► they still call it a vacation not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► traveling is where are you going just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► Orlando at all time yeah so I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► will say this I have never been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► Disney it is not the kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► I think I would enjoy however just from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► vacation it's more fun than you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► is I mean you should you should go at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► some point when Adam is like the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► age of like he's not going to be melting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► down constantly but he's also not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► to be too old for it like find find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► age that is the right age for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► just take one family trip there it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► is more interesting and more fun than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► you think it's going to be not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► say that you're going to think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► most awesome place and you love it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► you would do it all the time but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► not as it's not as bad as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► it sounds like more of an event you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► it's like like like we just finished our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► kids birthday was this past weekend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► so we we just finished like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► large party and arranging all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► logistics and everything else and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► from from the way that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► friends including both of you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► about Disney vacations it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► it's like hosting a party times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► thousand like all the stuff you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► like do and play knows it's the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► it's the opposite of that you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► to worry about all that crap Disney yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► takes care like it's it's it's like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► you're like Adams party was for Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► that's what Disney is trying to be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► you you're Adam in this scenario and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► Disney is you and TIFF they are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► care of all the crap and making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► your needs are met and just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► just show up me like ah where's my cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► where's my presents like that's Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► that's that's what the time yeah let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► let me build on this so I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► begging to talk about well that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► fair I have wanted to talk about Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► on the show for a long time but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► Disney is so intent on you having a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► time and not having to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► anything that if you stay on campus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► in the parks I forget the technical term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► that Disney uses for it but if you stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► at a hotel that Disney owns that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► the Disney product on property I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► yeah I think it is on property but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► anyway is if you stay on property if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► book you know with any amount of advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► notice and you're flying into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► Orlando Airport you can do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► called magical express and what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► is when you go to JFK or wherever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► would go Marco you deposit your checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► bags they have a special Disney tag on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► them when you arrive at the Orlando or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► Airport you go to where the magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► express buses are you tell them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► staying at you board a bus you do not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► to baggage claim you go to your hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► you check in you presumably get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► room unless silly early in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► you get your park tickets and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► freshen up and go to the park your bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► are still nowhere to be found you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► the park you do amazing things have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► tremendous time have a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► especially you Marco because you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► go at the bananas time of year when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► well maybe not once he gets in school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► but in terms of like job e jobs it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► a problem he's in school yeah I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► about that but anyway but the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► being you go and you have fun and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► when you return to your room poof like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► magic there's your bags all collected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► all the way from the Orlando Airport and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► place conveniently in your room just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► you that's how serious they are about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► you not having to worry about stuff now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► with that said I hope you worried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► entire time whether my bag was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► going to be there when I got there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► doesn't work for control freaks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► there's something for everybody and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► like if that's not the experience you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► want to have you don't have to like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► in general like everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► park is set up to make your life easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► and they understand by now what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► annoying about being in a hot place with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► a kid who might be cranky and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► everything about it is nice looking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► fun and clean and cheery and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► it's all artificial and it's all park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► like I'm not saying it's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► beach is better so I'm getting that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► you know going in this is what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► going to be trying to be doing you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► it's not going to work on me and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► just going to be miserable and it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► just kind of works on you yep so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► the impression that I have gotten from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► listening to you guys and Merlin talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► it's the the degree of planning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► required expertise about the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► these things should be done is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► mostly just you guys being you guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► not the way it actually is it's half and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► half yeah it's kind of like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► certain personality type who says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► like like it's you're the that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► who doesn't want to be worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► where your bag is if you're also have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► person who wants to go Disney and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► like I don't want to go to Disney not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► get to do all the super duper special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► things that I want to do like then yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► you got to plan ahead for it and do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► this stuff but if you just go to Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► do what this is walk around and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► something that's interesting that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► short line and especially if your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► doesn't know enough to know like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► to go on X and you know if they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► like wandering around starry-eyed just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► like you it'll work out fine you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► enough of a planner that I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► would do it a little bit ahead of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► luckily there is an entire industry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► people whose only job is to plan your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6777">TS</a>]
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01:53:17 ◼ ► much money I think it's another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6797">TS</a>]
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01:53:53 ◼ ► Disney is like you don't have that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6833">TS</a>]
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01:53:58 ◼ ► money to you know if you have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► money to throw what seems like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6840">TS</a>]
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01:54:10 ◼ ► severe incarnation of that like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6850">TS</a>]
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01:54:20 ◼ ► Disney where reasonably nice people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► try to be nice to you and like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► it's like well this is closest I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► to get and and it's nice and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► here is nice and everyone here is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► to be nice to me I mean I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► reconcilable differences I had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► episode about the sustainability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► Disneyland it was a long time ago I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► some podcasts like that is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► where you see like can can people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► us up how can employees actually be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6884">TS</a>]
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01:54:47 ◼ ► actually get that many people to be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► to to of not just American tourists for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6888">TS</a>]
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01:54:58 ◼ ► is still nicer than you will be treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► at most places that are not Disneyland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► for the same amount of money yeah and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► planning I think John hit the nail on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► the head that it's kind of it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► what kind of person you are so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► everything down to the second and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► want to I can do it and and so I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► fast passes way in advance so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► figure out what rides I'm gonna ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► which day at what time which if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► not a planner to book your restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6924">TS</a>]
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01:55:28 ◼ ► my restaurant six months in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► literally six months in advance and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6929">TS</a>]
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01:55:39 ◼ ► been for forever and it's like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► bucks a year or something like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► have travel agents that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► travel agent I've ever used for way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6944">TS</a>]
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01:55:51 ◼ ► go to a triple-a travel agent in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6951">TS</a>]
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01:55:54 ◼ ► Disney you find them like behind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6954">TS</a>]
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01:55:58 ◼ ► yeah that I've never had a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► finding a travel agent but anyway oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6960">TS</a>]
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01:56:08 ◼ ► been to Disney this is these are the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► things we want to do we generally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► to take it easy and not have like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► many booked activities can you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► figure out a vague arrangement of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► to do for us and they will make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► happen I mean he'll I would do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6982">TS</a>]
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01:56:25 ◼ ► fun but the point is though Jon fun oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/6985">TS</a>]
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01:56:42 ◼ ► whatever it is you like about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► accepting the gambling and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7005">TS</a>]
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01:57:02 ◼ ► less heat more humidity you Marco are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► probably doing a different kind of Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► probably Disney probably would be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► nice as compared to the Vegas I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► it's considerably more nice but in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7030">TS</a>]
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01:57:17 ◼ ► money for a Disney meal plan upfront you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► can eat do two or three meals a day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► not have to worry about what they cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► you have to worry about you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► you go because they all take the meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► phenomenally fun time and I genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► cannot wait to take Declan there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7053">TS</a>]
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01:57:37 ◼ ► be worth the price of admission which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7057">TS</a>]
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01:57:41 ◼ ► thing about it like you would go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7061">TS</a>]
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01:57:44 ◼ ► you would most it would be a vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► for Adam which is why you're playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► based around what age you think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7067">TS</a>]
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01:58:06 ◼ ► one of the most fun things we did on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► vacation if you'd asked me before to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► predict what that might be I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► have called it the way I did was we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► dinner in the big Disney Castle you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► the big one you see in the you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► through the big Disney Castle you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7098">TS</a>]
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01:58:27 ◼ ► one and it's a restaurant in there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► you could have dinner and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► remember if I talked about this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► rectifier here that I have a giant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► where I complain about the food at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► Disney at some point no it's now I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► to know yeah there's a lot of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► what what I'm getting at is I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► enjoy it because of the food I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7123">TS</a>]
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01:58:56 ◼ ► Walt Disney and the whole thing like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7136">TS</a>]
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01:59:11 ◼ ► around from tables is able to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► say hi to your kids and stuff and my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► was a little old throw it in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► shy my daughter was super into it she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRJ60SQ/7157">TS</a>]
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