H.I. #79: From Russia with Love
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do you remember how to do this according
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to the way we're setting up no I don't
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remember how to do this do you know what
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you setting up took a while and you
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stuffed up a few things and you had to
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reboot and all that sort of stuff
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but in the scheme of things that was
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still pretty smooth for you Thank You
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Brady I'll take that as a compliment I
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guess you're not very good at it
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like I think I'm better at it which is
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amazing really you are like a
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professional with this you're all over
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the world you're setting up interviews
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with people you're always doing audio
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recording I am a guy who shows up
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occasionally to record podcasts so it's
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always a bit of a like wait what what
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was i doing how did this get set up you
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can't expect me after what two years two
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and a half years how long have we been
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doing this I don't know to be a
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professional at it I think that's an
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unrealistic expectation reading I'll
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tell you a story I have to be careful
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telling it's because I don't want to
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give certain things away but I remember
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one time I made this video for periodic
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videos which was of a really interesting
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chemical reaction really fiery and
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explosive was a really cool thing and I
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made the video and I put it on YouTube
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good for me and then someone who I would
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describe as kind of a colleague but also
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for various reasons bit of a rival
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decided they were going to film the same
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reaction mm-hm
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and what they did was because they were
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probably just a bit less experienced and
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for whatever reason I get this email one
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day saying dear Brady I recorded that
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reaction that you did a few weeks ago
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but unfortunately in like the heat of
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the moment I forgot to press the record
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button uh-huh and this whole thing had
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gone off for them they'd been set up for
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them had taken all day and they hadn't
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filmed it and basically he just had to
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come to me like tail between his legs
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and said to me could I please just have
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your footage of when you did it oh god
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okay I've been there you know like it's
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a very easy thing to do when you're new
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to filming you've got a million things
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to think about to actually forget to
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press record I've done interviews before
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when I was like a newbie at the BBC even
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so I just felt the pain and I said man
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not a problem
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and I just sent it straight to him as
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well I get it how he must have felt I
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just totally had sympathy what a nice
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guy giving footage to a quasi rival
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yeah it's complicated to call him a
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rival and I can't really go into it but
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it's not someone anyone knows like the
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games who are listening thinking or
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wonder if it's you know what are the
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youtubes as we know it wasn't a youtuber
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was nothing like that
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it was no one anyone knows but it was a
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funny story what's the worst thing that
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you have forgotten to record you didn't
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interview the Prime Minister or anything
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and then forget to press record no when
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I was very new to I remember I once went
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to like an aquarium fish store and I
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interviewed this woman for like 20
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minutes and then he hadn't pressed
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record and I didn't admit to her I
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actually said I think that was good but
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I think we could have done that better
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let's do it again ha ha ha
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do you sneaky dog you Brady I would
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admit to an F oh maybe I wouldn't I can
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imagine times when I wouldn't if it was
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it too embarrassing but these days you
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know as you get more confident in life
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you also get more confident about
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admitting your shortcomings so I
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remember when I first became a newspaper
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journalist in the newsroom and I was
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like the new cadet and being given a job
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an assignment was a big deal like
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Bradley going you know ring the local
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business council and find out their
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response to this story and you know
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given jobs to do mmm I would like wait
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till there was no one around or go and
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hide in another room to make phone calls
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because I was so scared of people
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listening to my phone calls and hearing
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the interview people and I was so
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nervous you know I was just a young new
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journalist and I hated the idea of all
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the experienced journalists hearing me
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phone people up and doing that sort of
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I look back now and think that's really
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sweet you were white in like an open
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office situation and supposed to just
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interview someone over the phone
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newsrooms are normally quite open plan
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things and you know all the journals
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will sit around each other like when you
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watch on TV it's quite like that there's
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lots of noise and phone calls and stuff
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going on and everyone can hear what
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everyone else is doing to some extent I
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was just you know the new green young
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kid so I would like go into like a
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conference room where there would be a
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phone and make the phone calls or things
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like that just because you know I didn't
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want all the experienced journalists
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hearing me ask lame questions or not be
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able to handle myself you know like
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anyone young and nervous he'll I don't
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blame you for that at all I don't think
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I could do that talk on the phone in a
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big open space where other people isn't
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but I'm in my own apartment if I make a
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phone call I go into another room even
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if just my wife is home it's just it's
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weird having somebody else listen to
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half a conversation doesn't matter if
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I'm just talking to my family or
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something it feels like there's a weird
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pressure like I'm sorry I'm using the
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telephone I have to go into a different
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room and close the door I mean the
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reality is you don't really hear other
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people's phone calls because people talk
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quietly into the phone and there's lots
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going on like you'd have to really make
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an effort to listen to other people's
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phone calls or they would have to be
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really loud and so you don't hear
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everyone else's phone calls but when
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you're a young paranoid new cadet
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journalist you are scared everyone's
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going to be listening to your phone call
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and laughing at you sir
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anyway it goes away you're a
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professional now and you're sure you're
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recording this podcast right yeah and
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after over I bet something sky and
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catastrophic ly wrong and we'll lose
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this whole thing this episode of hello
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Internet is brought to you in part by
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Harry's Harry's was started by two guys
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great shave at a fair price they bought
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a factory with a hundred years of blade
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their own high-quality razors sell them
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online and ship them directly to you for
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crazy making none of that stuff it's
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just shipped right to your door like
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lose except for your stubble thanks to
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Harry's for supporting the show
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I think Brady that freebooting has
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really made it as an official official
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word now whoa
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it's not a dictionary is it a dictionary
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smidgen arey right like they're just
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descriptive like they'll catch up
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eventually to the way that the word is
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being used I just happen to have in a
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bunch of cases come across recently
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people using the word freebooting who
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would have you know no idea about the
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podcast like it spread very far but I
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think the real in my mind cement er of
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the legitimacy of this word is that on
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the Wikipedia page for copyright
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infringement there is a section which is
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about the terminology like how does one
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talk about copyright infringement
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because as we discussed in that episode
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so many years ago now the word theft not
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appropriate because it's not actually a
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description of what's happening you
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can't really use that word it's too
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emotive that's your position by the way
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that's not my position now I'm
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presenting it as the position Brady
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that's obviously where I goes our
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difference of opinions on that is what
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started the whole free we start with I
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think it's the only correct position is
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that theft is obviously the wrong word
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to use but yeah so on the Wikipedia page
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they do run through this the idea of
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using the word piracy versus the word
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theft and then at the bottom there is
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now an official section for freebooting
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which I would say as the article on the
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Wikipedia is arranged is presented as
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the solution the correct way to talk
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about copyright infringement and that is
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freebooting I think it's fantastic and
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you have even been properly credited as
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the creator of freebooting
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the Wikipedia I think this is the big
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time Brady this is like the final step
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in the journey of rebooting it's like a
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real word now on the Wikipedia is this a
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coincidence that you've brought this up
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you realize there was naughtiness
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yesterday about this I have no idea what
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you're talking about you've been off
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Twitter haven't you I haven't been on
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the Internet in a long time just
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yesterday it was brought to my attention
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and it has since been corrected back to
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what you're saying now mm-hmm but
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yesterday afternoon that little section
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on freebooting was actually a section on
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view jacking and the title was view
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jacking you were credited not me and
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someone brought this to my attention on
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that exact Wikipedia page and I shared
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it on twitter i said very funny guys
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like look what everyone's done and like
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the official word was view jacking and
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then obviously when people saw this
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someone has gone back in and changed
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effective rebooting so just to show you
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how unofficial something is when it's on
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wikipedia as of yesterday it was view
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jacking that's the official word but we
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all know freebooting is the real word I
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mean look at this I just went through
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the history and yes as of a couple days
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ago the term view jacking his the news
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disconnect the unauthorized hosting of
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online really a particular videos this
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term was quite by CGP Greg took greater
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on the audio podcast hello Internet so I
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think we're not quite at the end of this
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I feel a bit like the people hanging on
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to view jacking a kind of the flag flag
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of copyright infringement people but
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look I can't take responsibility for any
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credit jacking that occurs when people
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rewrite things on the Wikipedia out of
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my hands I like that this shows why for
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all of your sniffing s about old
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institutions like dictionaries and stuff
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I would not consider it to be a success
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until a dictionary takes it up like the
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Oxford English Dictionary or something
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like that because until they do it any
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Tom Dick or Harry can go on Wikipedia
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and change interview jacking it has to
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be official you need a dictionary and
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that's what you need that's what I need
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yeah like I accept that it's sort of had
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a little moment in the Sun and it has
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kind of infiltrated our language a
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little bit in fact I was asked to do a
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talk about freebooting at VidCon oh yeah
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which I declined actually I didn't want
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to step on that landmine at the moment
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and also I didn't really feel that
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much of an expert like just because I
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couldn't the word I didn't feel like I
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could legitimately sit on a panel and
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talk about the legalities of copyright
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infringement so I'm just like you came
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up with a word I don't know Brady it
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feels like you need to be on a panel at
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VidCon about freebooting feels like the
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world is not right if you're just
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sitting in the audience on that oh by
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the way ten-second dad I will be at
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VidCon Europe in Amsterdam so if
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anyone's in that part of the world and
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wants to come along and have their
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record signed come along I'll be there
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you're not doing the freebooting panel
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but are you doing any official panels
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while you're there in the official talks
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yeah I am I'm doing an educational type
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panel I can't remember who's on the
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panel's they're just educational
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youtubers I know Hank green is on it and
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like it's got some subtitle catchphrase
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like can you fit the universe inside a
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YouTube video or something that I had
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nothing to do with that name and I'm not
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entirely sure what I'm supposed to talk
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about but it sounds like a very Vsauce
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name yeah Hank's moderating the panel
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now and Hank knows what he's doing so
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I'm sure to be good and I'm sure
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there'll be a decent audience there
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because Hank's there so that would make
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me feel better I don't know man I think
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we're gonna be a lot of Halloween had
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fans at a VidCon event so I think you're
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going to be a pretty big drive the panel
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to breeding no I don't think that but if
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they're already Tim's there come and say
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hello if you happen to be at VidCon
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people are going to be screaming the
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audience throwing their underwear
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onstage that's what's going to happen
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breeding so there we go
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so freebooting credit jacking all sorts
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of stuff the saga rolls on stay out of
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the Wikipedia editing you naughty teams
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yeah if there's one thing we know it's
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vandalizing the Wikipedia never
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hilarious never entertaining I'm opposed
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to it great but I'm not so I'm opposed
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to although it always makes me laugh
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yeah that's right it is course it makes
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you laugh right because it's the spirit
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of the Internet right it's like the
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trickster god here because we have this
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thing which is like sort of the end-all
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be-all authoritative source on how
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everything is in a neutral view in the
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world and also can constantly be milked
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for the lulz by random trolls like it's
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fantastic it is tiring though it's
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tiring millions of people all trying to
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be funny at the same time it's like when
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you put a question on Twitter like and
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someone help me what's the national
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anthem of something and everyone wants
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to reply with a joke and they all think
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they're the one person being funny but
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when you're the recipient of their and
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you've got all these people trying to be
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funny it's like for God's sake I just
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need this answer like enough for the
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if you catches you in the right mood it
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is funny and I'm sometimes that guy I'm
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the guy who's always trying to be funny
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as well mm-hmm but when you're on the
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other end of it I feel like this is just
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the fundamental spirit of the Internet
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yeah if you're coming to the internet
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and you're being really serious about
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everything you're gonna have a bad time
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yeah I will never not love the kind of
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hilarity of internet commenters that
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results as this competition to be the
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funny person or the person who's like
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trying to sneak a joke into an otherwise
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serious Wikipedia article or all kinds
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of mischief I really think that's just
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fundamentally part of the Internet and
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will never be rid of it and you can't be
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too serious about it and whoever
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tampered with Jeff do John's Wikipedia
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article and included the line that he
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once signed an autograph a renowned
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journalist Brady Haran it's bit of a
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hero it's still one of my favorites okay
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like this was the best Wikipedia
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battlestations ever hasn't been changed
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yet because the only place that's been
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mentioned is on a vinyl episode now I've
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mentioned it here on the internet
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version it's got I've shot myself in the
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foot there although why remove it
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because it is true yeah I know I know
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like people like serious Wikipedia
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editors that deserves to remain there it
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is true and it's hilarious and if you're
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upset about it add a citation cuz it's
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not cited but there is an episode of
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hello Internet where I tell the story
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about him signing an autograph for me
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so can even be cited haha god bless you
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and yeah you're the best thing listening
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it is for me to bring people up to speed
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I have been zooming back and forward a
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little bit lately in planes and my body
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clocks all over the place I'm currently
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in spiritual home Berkeley and it's 6:00
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in the morning and I've woken up
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specially to do this so I'm a little bit
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tired and a bit out of it and I have
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just come from Russia before that I
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don't know if I'm coming or going so
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don't know how well the brain will work
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but we'll get there this is so confusing
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too because I knew you were doing some
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traveling but I vaguely thought oh
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you're going to America and then I get
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messages from you From Russia With Love
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and then suddenly you're somewhere else
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and then you're back in the UK and then
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you're flying over to San Francisco I
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feel like I can't keep track of you at
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all Brady I don't know what you're up to
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I don't have any idea what you're doing
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why were you in Russia I went through a
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really good period of three months of
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not even leaving the UK and it was so
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lovely Wow you know I still had to go to
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London and Nottingham a lot but they
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just let overnight trips but it was
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three months of loveliness with the
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doggies and being able to spend time
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with my wife and all the nice things but
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now I'm entering a period of two or
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three months of mad travel all over the
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place three months at home that must be
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some kind of record for you it was
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really nice yeah so anyway I'm in
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America now you know doing the usual
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numberphile thing for a week actually
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just yesterday I interviewed the person
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who this is debatable
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okay but I would say and a lot of other
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people say is currently the smartest
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best mathematician in the world
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he's like the top gun' he's on top of
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everything he's the superstar of math at
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the moment I would say he's the greatest
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living mathematician there are
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mathematicians can live who may be in
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their peak were greater and are now you
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know coming towards the end of their
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days but in terms of current form
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current stuff going on I think he's the
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man and I got to meet him yesterday and
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interview him at MSR
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can you see who it is man I'm building
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up to it because there's an extra reason
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of a bit excited about it
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his name is Thierry tau that's a really
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good name it is a good name he's across
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all sorts of things he's a real
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all-rounder of mathematics which is
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pretty important these days because
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we've gotten to a point in mathematics
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now where most of the proofs rely on
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pulling from different parts of
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mathematics and not just specializing in
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one subject and the reason I'm
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particularly excited about him is he was
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born in Raqqa
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Adelaide yes at least pretty much my age
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as well he's only like one year older oh
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really yeah but you couldn't really call
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his contemporaries because he was the
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stereotypical super genius and I think
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like you know when he was 10 years old
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he was at university and all that sort
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of stuff right he was like super super
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prodigy and he's one of those prodigies
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that has gone on to genuine greatness as
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well so anyway just for the record
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because I know it'll amuse you when we
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were setting up and about to start we
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were talking a bit about Adelaide and
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where he was from and how often he goes
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back and somehow I fell down the rabbit
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hole and told him the story about how
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much I love the black stump and I wanted
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to tell black stump stories with him
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and I have to say he wasn't feeling it
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in my head you are wanting to discuss
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the black stump with him while wearing
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your black stumpy shirt like let me tell
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you about this amazing building he
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didn't even remember the black stump but
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I was like you know before they built
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the state bank building it was the
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biggest building in Adelaide and he was
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like yeah I remember the state bank
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building because it's the biggest
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building I'm like no before that it was
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the black stop you know say they judge
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me man he should have had the same
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feelings but he wasn't on board everyone
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should have the same feelings that you
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do brady that's the way it should be
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right I know cuz then I sort of boxed
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myself into a corner cuz when he'd
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wasn't into the black stamp I felt like
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ah because I was then gonna tell him the
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funny story about how now I talk about
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it all the time and I've made t-shirts
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and we would laugh about how right right
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but because he wasn't into the black
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stamp I was kind of like oh no where do
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I take this conversation now I've just
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started talking about this building now
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he doesn't remember it
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I've got no anecdote to tell these
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conversational dead ends are always
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awful right when you run down like this
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false paths with someone else and you
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think like we're gonna have a great
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bonding conversation like oh no right
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now this isn't working at all like abort
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abort but it's too late and now you're
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trying to like justify the amazingness
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of this building that's exactly what
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happened and it just got worse and worse
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but I have to say he was like a really
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really excellent man he was really
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generous with his time and polite and
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friendly and considering how smart he is
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and the mathematical plane he works on
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he was a really accessible normal guy
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and he also was quite familiar with
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numberphile including my controversial -
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one-twelfth video about
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some of the integers chorus we all
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remember that this is in his wheelhouse
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this subject like he's written blogs
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about it and he was also very gracious
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about that I'm sure he could have ripped
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me to pieces but he was actually quite
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nice about it which made me really
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pleased I said you're being diplomatic
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aren't you inside he's thinking yes yes
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yes I'll just keep this black stump
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loving we were no happy so anyway Terry
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Tao brilliant I'm still taken aback by
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his age because I was going to guess
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surely the top guy it's got to be like
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in his late 20s early 30s at most
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isn't that the reputation and the
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sciences and the mathematics that it's
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yeah it's just like being a model or an
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athlete like you peek in your 20s and
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then it's all downhill from there so
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this guy's like 2x peak age that's true
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that's true and also you'd think in some
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ways he's like the equivalent of a 60
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year old because he was already like a
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Top Gun when he was like 16 or 17 but no
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he's still like on top of it and
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cracking new things one of the reasons
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for that though is he's unusually
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collaborative like he's really into
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collaboration and works with other
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people and he's even got this thing that
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you'd find quite interesting actually
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he's working on this thing they called
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the polymath project it's kind of like
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crowdsourcing mathematics finding
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►
subjects that could benefit from loads
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of loads of people working on it and
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they said I'm like a webpage and
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everyone works on little bits and it
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doesn't work for all mathematics but for
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some problems that works really well
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where lots and lots of different people
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are doing lots of little different bits
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it really pushes things forward quickly
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and it sounds like you know it's not
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something you and I could do it's still
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like you know professional
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mathematicians and stuff like that we
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can't help out they don't need someone
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to run it as an Excel spreadsheet and
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some basic numbers I know when you hear
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about this polymath and crowdsourcing
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you think oh it's my chance to be
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involved but it really is for
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mathematicians it's just taking
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collaboration to the next level there's
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this thing called the twin prime
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conjecture that there are an infinite
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number of primes that are separated by
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just two right right and you know no
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matter how far you go down the number
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line there's always another twin prime
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coming somewhere and this guy a while
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ago released a proof which was amazing
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which proved that there are an infinite
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number of primes that are separated by
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70 million which was a huge breakthrough
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it was like one of the biggest
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breakthroughs and mathematics of the
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last sort of you know ten years or so
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and then that this polymath project and
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Terry Tao in particular have really
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taken the bull by the horns and they've
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been like doing all this new stuff to
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bring that number down that bound mm-hmm
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and I think they've got it to like you
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know two hundred and seventy now and
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they're all working on it to try to get
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it down to this you know to which is the
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Holy Grail so I find that stuff so
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interesting and mathematically just
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obviously like I can't follow any of the
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details of it but just like there's
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something really satisfying about
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mathematical proofs and I do love that
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idea of you can see people working
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towards like once you've proven there's
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an infinite number of primes that are
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separated by an arbitrary number it
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feels like oh I can see how that's a
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toehold to try to work towards the
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solution that you're looking for which
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is to get them to separate it by two
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yeah it seems like it must be incredibly
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pleasing and satisfying work to move a
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proof forward like step by step and to
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be part of a project that is like
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solving this bit by bit I can just
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imagine that that has to be very
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satisfying for professional
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mathematicians one of the really
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interesting things about Terry because
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I've not really seen this trait often in
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mathematicians or I've not often seen
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them speak about it so openly but it
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makes perfect sense is that his attitude
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is pretty much as follows because I
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spoke to him about the Riemann
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hypothesis which is like one of the Holy
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Grails of mathematics and I said to him
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are you working on the Riemann
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hypothesis and he said no I'm not at the
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moment because to me it's like a cliff
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that I can't get to the top of and it's
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just a sheer flat wall with no way to
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climb it but if someone somewhere makes
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a breakthrough like you know and
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produces a few toeholds and hand holds
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that I can grab onto and start working
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on I would go to it I'd run to it it
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almost sounds kind of mercenary in a way
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that he's like this samurai wandering
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the world of mathematics because he
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knows so much about so many different
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areas of mathematics and as soon as like
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there's a breakthrough somewhere else
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there's a battle going or something good
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that he thinks he can get his teeth into
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that's what he'll go to and work on
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because there's a chance now there's an
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opening like he's not like Andrew Wiles
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sitting up in a his attic working on for
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Mars Last Theorem all his life in secret
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he's this guy that's just like doing
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things at once and whenever he hears
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about a new cool breakthrough that's
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where he goes and what he wants to do
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because there's a chance now there's a
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chance it can be solved or proved and it
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was really kind of honest at but also
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really interesting that that's his
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attitude to it oh you mean it was
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refreshing to hear that he's trying to
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work on problems that are possible to
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solve instead of like reinforcing the
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idea of being the lone genius working on
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the impossible thing is that what you
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mean like is that how people normally
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talk about it yeah but also I liked
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hearing it described that way you could
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almost say it sounds a bit like
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opportunistic or a bit exploitative
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isn't it like you know I'm waiting for
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someone else to do something great so
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that I can then piggyback it and take
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this thing to the future glory don't get
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me wrong he's not a glory Sega and he
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doesn't need in his head his share of
00:25:00
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glory already he retire now is one of
00:25:02
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the greatest mathematicians ever but I
00:25:04
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don't know mathematicians are quite
00:25:05
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secretive and they don't always like you
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to know what their dreams are and what
00:25:09
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they're working on and maybe because
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they fear the embarrassment of not
00:25:11
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solving it or maybe just because they
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drive at people but to hear him be
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really open about you know yeah I want
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to solve you know I want to do all this
00:25:18
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stuff and I'm waiting sometimes to see
00:25:20
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►
where the next big opportunity is and
00:25:22
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but he's also a total collaborator and
00:25:24
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it's not about him he just wants to know
00:25:25
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everything and he wants to everything to
00:25:27
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be solved and proved and like you say
00:25:29
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what he's doing is entirely rational he
00:25:32
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wants to go to where the opportunity is
00:25:33
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where progress can be made
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mm-hmm but you don't often hear
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mathematicians talk that way which is
00:25:38
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what I found interesting he sounds like
00:25:39
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a very smart guy he is he's pretty smart
00:25:41
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but voice from Adelaide all the best
00:25:43
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place I love totally yes of course how
00:25:45
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can I forget all the best people are
00:25:47
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from Adelaide and they all loved the
00:25:50
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mighty Blackstone it's crazy that he's
00:25:52
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not famous in Adelaide like he's like
00:25:54
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one of the great Adelaide Ian's that has
00:25:55
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been produced yeah he should be right
00:25:57
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next to the Brady Haran statue yes
00:25:59
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that's the way it should work yeah all
00:26:03
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right Brady so tell me what were you
00:26:05
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doing in Russia I have no idea why you
00:26:08
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were there I just randomly got a
00:26:11
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photograph of a postcard of Vladimir
00:26:13
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Putin riding a bear and that's how I
00:26:16
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knew you were in Russia well this should
00:26:18
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be semi interesting for you because one
00:26:20
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►
of my interests that you do share to
00:26:22
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some degree is the periodic table you do
00:26:24
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seem to show more than a flicker of
00:26:25
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interest in all things periodic table
00:26:27
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related and the reason I was there was
00:26:30
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for the inauguration of
00:26:33
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three of those four new elements that
00:26:35
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were discovered oh that's right the
00:26:38
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►
elements yeah
00:26:39
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►
so there were these four new ones that
00:26:41
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have been discovered over the last
00:26:42
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►
however many years but they finally got
00:26:45
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their rubber stamp towards the end of
00:26:47
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last year in terms of I you pack the
00:26:50
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official periodic table Guardians saying
00:26:52
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yep they were definitely discovered you
00:26:54
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people can name them they proposed the
00:26:56
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names and then the names were approved
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so we had Mahoney 'm which was made and
00:27:01
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discovered in japan so named after japan
00:27:03
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and then we had three that was
00:27:05
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synthesized at a place called Dubner
00:27:08
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►
just outside Moscow mmm-hmm these were
00:27:11
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►
Moscow viim tennis ain although it was
00:27:14
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►
named after Tennessee it was actually
00:27:15
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made in Russia as well and organ nests
00:27:19
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on which is named after a guy called
00:27:20
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►
Yuri organ essien who is still alive
00:27:22
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►
which is only the second time this has
00:27:24
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►
ever happened I don't know exactly how
00:27:26
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►
it happened but Martin Polyakov the
00:27:29
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►
chemistry professor who I make periodic
00:27:31
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►
videos with I think contacted Yuri
00:27:33
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►
organiztion and they became kind of
00:27:36
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►
friendly on email helped by the fact
00:27:38
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►
that Martin speaks Russian which I think
00:27:40
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►
was a real icebreaker because he could
00:27:41
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►
write his emails in Russian and much to
00:27:44
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our surprise actually these people who
00:27:46
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►
make these super-heavy elements totally
00:27:48
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►
know who we are because I think what
00:27:51
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►
happens is whenever they google their
00:27:53
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►
new elements and things they always
00:27:54
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inevitably see our YouTube videos
00:27:56
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►
because we make a million youtube videos
00:27:57
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►
about them no I think it is actually
00:27:59
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►
just your towering fame in the world of
00:28:01
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►
chemistry surely you must be one of the
00:28:04
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►
most famous popularizers of chemistry
00:28:07
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►
right the two of you together in
00:28:08
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particular well maybe this is possible
00:28:11
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you have a whole statue of you in
00:28:13
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Adelaide no small part because of that
00:28:15
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what is this stitch you're not glad you
00:28:17
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people gonna think this is a thing if
00:28:19
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►
you keep saying that if I keep saying
00:28:20
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it'll become a thing okay yeah but get
00:28:22
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►
anyway go on go on
00:28:23
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►
so anyway they had the ceremony to name
00:28:27
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►
the elements so they invited us they
00:28:29
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►
said you should come to the ceremony and
00:28:31
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►
they didn't only invite us Martin was
00:28:33
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►
invited to be like a speaker so I
00:28:35
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►
thought I'll get him to say a few words
00:28:37
◼
►
but he became like the keynote speaker
00:28:39
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►
who gave like probably what the main
00:28:41
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►
speech of the event in Russian and then
00:28:44
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we went to Dubner the big facility where
00:28:47
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made the elements and agony seein
00:28:49
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himself was like so like giving of his
00:28:53
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►
time and we spent like today with him
00:28:55
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and he took us around and gave us tours
00:28:57
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and interviews and took us out for meals
00:29:00
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►
and all sorts of stuff so I spent all
00:29:02
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►
this time with the guy who had the
00:29:04
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►
element named after him and we made all
00:29:06
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►
these videos and had this amazing time
00:29:08
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►
was brilliant I'm just confused here
00:29:10
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►
though because we first discussed these
00:29:11
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►
elements and whatever was a year ago so
00:29:14
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►
I understand there must be some kind of
00:29:15
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►
process to make it official and I
00:29:17
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►
thought we were he passed the yes there
00:29:19
◼
►
really official stage yet we had passed
00:29:21
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►
that stage but now they're officially
00:29:23
◼
►
named this is the official naming
00:29:25
◼
►
ceremony yeah this was like the party
00:29:27
◼
►
this was like the ceremony okay so the
00:29:29
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►
names had become official but this was
00:29:32
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like the all the people from America and
00:29:34
◼
►
all the people from Japan and all the
00:29:35
◼
►
different collaborators that had any
00:29:37
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►
role all came together for a few days
00:29:39
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►
and they had the big shindig in Moscow
00:29:42
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►
like the Academy of Sciences with
00:29:44
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►
ceremonies and speeches and lots of
00:29:46
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►
vodka I can imagine and like the pickled
00:29:50
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►
herring and over the Russian food little
00:29:51
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►
caviar so that was the big party and
00:29:54
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►
then they went and had a tour of the
00:29:56
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►
Dubner facility for themselves because
00:29:57
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some of them hadn't really had a good
00:29:59
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►
look at it and because it was switched
00:30:00
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►
off for the morning they could like get
00:30:03
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►
up close to all the things they normally
00:30:04
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►
can't see like all the cyclotrons and
00:30:06
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►
the beamlines and the places where the
00:30:08
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►
atoms all get smashed so it was like a
00:30:10
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►
nice tour and then they had like a half
00:30:12
◼
►
a day little symposium where everyone
00:30:14
◼
►
gave technical scientific talks about
00:30:17
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►
the state of play how can we make the
00:30:19
◼
►
next elements what are the next steps it
00:30:22
◼
►
was a chance for them all to get
00:30:23
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►
partly to celebrate and have a drink and
00:30:26
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►
partly to do a bit of face-to-face
00:30:27
◼
►
collaboration and we kind of piggybacked
00:30:30
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►
it as a chance to make videos but also
00:30:33
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►
we were kind of i mean more martin than
00:30:35
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►
made to be honest we've sort of fettered
00:30:37
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►
as the sort of VIPs as well so i thought
00:30:40
◼
►
we were going to be like the
00:30:41
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►
fly-on-the-wall
00:30:42
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►
but we ended up being quite a center of
00:30:44
◼
►
attention you went from fly-on-the-wall
00:30:45
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►
to belle of the ball is that what you
00:30:47
◼
►
did baby look at you you can tell it's
00:30:51
◼
►
not 6:00 in the morning where you are
00:30:52
◼
►
these little clever turns a phrase but
00:30:55
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►
okay look I have a lot of charity
00:30:57
◼
►
towards the world of science and
00:30:58
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►
chemistry yeah but I have to like is
00:31:00
◼
►
this the fun
00:31:01
◼
►
no party because it feels like it's just
00:31:03
◼
►
getting stretched out a little bit here
00:31:04
◼
►
is there gonna be a party later on
00:31:06
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►
that's like ooh the official embossing
00:31:08
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►
of the element onto the periodic table
00:31:11
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►
I'm just wondering how many stages is it
00:31:13
◼
►
until like in a high school chemistry
00:31:15
◼
►
class when you buy a periodic table it's
00:31:17
◼
►
just listed there or like or is that not
00:31:19
◼
►
allowed yet until another party occurs
00:31:21
◼
►
we're already past that oh okay this was
00:31:23
◼
►
like you know how sometimes like if you
00:31:26
◼
►
win an award you know sometimes it's
00:31:28
◼
►
announced like the Nobel Prize they
00:31:29
◼
►
announce the Nobel Prize who won it and
00:31:31
◼
►
there's a big media cover full but it's
00:31:34
◼
►
usually two or three months later that
00:31:36
◼
►
they then actually give them the medals
00:31:37
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►
and do the speeches and the certificates
00:31:39
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►
or when someone gets a knighthood you
00:31:41
◼
►
know it's announced so-and-so is now a
00:31:43
◼
►
knight but they don't actually have the
00:31:45
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►
sword on their shoulder from the Queen
00:31:46
◼
►
until a few months later that's what
00:31:48
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►
this was like so the elements were
00:31:50
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►
official and it was announced this was
00:31:51
◼
►
just the sword on your shoulder from the
00:31:53
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►
Queen to say well done cuz it takes a
00:31:55
◼
►
while to get everyone together you know
00:31:57
◼
►
you know I just realized like I knew
00:31:59
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►
this but I never really thought about it
00:32:01
◼
►
because I think in my head when I hear
00:32:03
◼
►
about people going to the Nobel award
00:32:05
◼
►
ceremony I think I was imagining it was
00:32:07
◼
►
like the Oscars and all of the nominees
00:32:09
◼
►
are sitting there in the audience
00:32:11
◼
►
waiting to find out who the winner is
00:32:13
◼
►
now when they open the envelope in
00:32:16
◼
►
retrospect getting a whole bunch of
00:32:17
◼
►
scientists together at the same time to
00:32:19
◼
►
do that for a crowd that is not
00:32:22
◼
►
explicitly publicity-seeking in the same
00:32:25
◼
►
way that say Hollywood would be
00:32:26
◼
►
obviously yes that's not the way it's
00:32:28
◼
►
going to work but I think in my head I
00:32:29
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►
always imagined when they announced the
00:32:31
◼
►
Nobel prize-winner that there's four sad
00:32:33
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►
Nobel Prize losers who are sitting there
00:32:36
◼
►
in the audience and still have to have a
00:32:38
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►
party that night with everybody else I
00:32:40
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►
mean the Nobel Prize is a kind of a bit
00:32:42
◼
►
crazy I assume you know this or you knew
00:32:44
◼
►
this but maybe you don't but obviously
00:32:46
◼
►
who's even under consideration is kept
00:32:48
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►
secret and then there's a press
00:32:50
◼
►
conference held in Sweden where there's
00:32:53
◼
►
just basically journalists there and
00:32:54
◼
►
some people from the Nobel Committee and
00:32:56
◼
►
a few experts come out and they announce
00:32:58
◼
►
who the winner is but the people who
00:33:01
◼
►
have won or the person who has won only
00:33:03
◼
►
finds out themselves about ten minutes
00:33:05
◼
►
before they phone them wherever they are
00:33:07
◼
►
in the world and say this is the Nobel
00:33:09
◼
►
Committee you've won the Nobel Prize
00:33:11
◼
►
we're about to announce that you know
00:33:15
◼
►
but that process actually causes
00:33:16
◼
►
problems because quite often they can't
00:33:19
◼
►
contact the person they need to contact
00:33:20
◼
►
yeah like so they'll be phoning someone
00:33:22
◼
►
around the world saying we need to speak
00:33:23
◼
►
to Jane Doe she's just won the Nobel
00:33:26
◼
►
Prize and they can't get her and they
00:33:28
◼
►
famously couldn't get Higgs when he won
00:33:31
◼
►
it for the Higgs boson and he found out
00:33:32
◼
►
from someone who just heard it on the
00:33:33
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►
radio and told him are you just won the
00:33:36
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►
Nobel Prize recently there was a big
00:33:38
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problem though because they phoned
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someone who won and the person had died
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like a week or two before and they
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didn't know mm-hmm and they like phoned
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the house and they said ah he's dead and
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you can't win the Nobel Prize if you've
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died but he still got it I made an
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exception I did know that about the
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phone call because I think like I've
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heard various stories and that's what I
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mean like I never put two and two
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together in my head I was still
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imagining that somehow there were people
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in the audience at the actual ceremony I
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did know about the phone call because
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you do hear those stories sometimes of
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someone missing it or some kind of
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incident that occurs when trying to get
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in touch with someone for the phone call
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so I spent a lot of time around people
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speaking Russian to each other over the
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last week eventually I got used to it
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but when it first started happening more
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when I was applying for my visa and I
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was around a lot of people speaking
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Russian to each other
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I felt quite silly and embarrassed by
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myself by how much I felt like I was in
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a spy movie but when two people speak
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Russian to each other it's amazing how
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the Hollywood training takes over and
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you assume everything's like a big
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conspiracy and they're talking about all
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this cool spy stuff it did make me
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wonder if like when Russian people who
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don't speak English here - people
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speaking English to each other do they
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think the same thing I can't imagine
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what English sounds like to people who
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don't speak English like what do we
00:34:54
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sound like do we sound like villains
00:34:56
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from an Indiana Jones movie the same way
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that I think that or like I wonder if
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that's the case or English has a
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different sound to it I imagine it must
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be like that I know I had a friend who
00:35:06
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didn't grow up speaking English a long
00:35:08
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time ago and I asked her about like what
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is English sound like and her response
00:35:11
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was it was if anyone ever imitates a
00:35:14
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language there's usually just a couple
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of sounds that you're really doing a
00:35:18
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whole bunch of times yeah like if you're
00:35:20
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doing French you'll be like juju Lulu
00:35:21
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Lala like yeah yeah that's like that's
00:35:24
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exactly what French sounds like yeah
00:35:25
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yeah or famously not the way the
00:35:28
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America World Police movie did Middle
00:35:30
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Eastern languages like was really
00:35:32
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terrible yeah it's the same thing where
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they're just doing a couple of sounds
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yeah and her response was that the
00:35:38
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English sounds were T sounds and s
00:35:41
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sounds stuffs like that sound was for
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her like the couple of sounds she would
00:35:47
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make if she was thinking about the way
00:35:48
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English is I say oh look at those
00:35:50
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English speakers over there it's
00:35:51
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treacherous yeah to us like I said it
00:35:55
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was not exactly a pleasant sounding
00:35:57
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language if you don't know what they're
00:35:58
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saying and I can see that I imagine
00:36:00
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English is not the best sounding
00:36:02
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language if you haven't heard it or if
00:36:04
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you don't know what they're actually
00:36:05
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saying but I think it's impossible to
00:36:07
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get out of because I know there's a
00:36:09
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►
YouTube video where someone tries to
00:36:11
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make gibberish sounds to give you the
00:36:13
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idea of what English sounds like to a
00:36:15
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►
foreign language speaker but it doesn't
00:36:17
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seem convincing to me and I've asked
00:36:19
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some people and it seems like it's not a
00:36:20
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►
good representation of what it actually
00:36:22
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sounds like I don't think you can get
00:36:24
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out of your head with this sort of thing
00:36:25
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but yeah I'm trying to think if I have
00:36:28
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ever in my life heard Russian spoken not
00:36:32
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in the context of a spy movie okay I
00:36:36
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think I may have never heard this
00:36:38
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language spoken outside of Hollywood's
00:36:41
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representation of it on a submarine I
00:36:43
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think that might be the only time I've
00:36:45
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ever heard it looks like Oh Sean Connery
00:36:47
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►
speaking Russian that's what Russian is
00:36:49
◼
►
I had a bit of it spoken that's for sure
00:36:52
◼
►
did you pick up anything I hear it's a
00:36:53
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►
really easy language to pick up no yeah
00:36:58
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►
it's like Spanish you know I spend a
00:37:00
◼
►
week in Spain you'll get the gist of it
00:37:01
◼
►
I'm sure it's the same way in Moscow
00:37:03
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►
it's really easy I can tell you one
00:37:04
◼
►
story about Russian being spoken if you
00:37:07
◼
►
can handle bit of a shaggy dog story
00:37:08
◼
►
I'll tell you my story about the final
00:37:10
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►
day in Russia Brady I am a professional
00:37:13
◼
►
Brady shaggy-dog story listener I should
00:37:16
◼
►
put that on my business card this is
00:37:17
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►
what I actually do shaggy-dog listen so
00:37:22
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►
on the final day we left Dube known
00:37:24
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►
north of Moscow and we were going to go
00:37:26
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►
to the airport that night but Professor
00:37:28
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Polyakov has this friend near Moscow who
00:37:31
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►
he wanted to visit so the taxi driver
00:37:33
◼
►
was going to take us to this friend's
00:37:35
◼
►
house who has this nice house and it
00:37:37
◼
►
adjoins a museum she runs which is a
00:37:41
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►
in rule yeah because her father was the
00:37:44
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►
designer of I think it's a t-34 the
00:37:46
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►
famous Russian tank and she herself I
00:37:49
◼
►
was told is quite famous in Russia she's
00:37:52
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►
quite old now but she was a famous poet
00:37:54
◼
►
when poetry was a big deal in Russia and
00:37:56
◼
►
poets were celebrities
00:37:57
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►
and now she's just famous as being her
00:37:59
◼
►
elder stateswoman was that really a time
00:38:01
◼
►
when that there were famous poets yeah
00:38:03
◼
►
the Russian name which apparently is
00:38:05
◼
►
really good for poetry way better than
00:38:07
◼
►
English because word order is less
00:38:09
◼
►
important so you can be a bit more
00:38:10
◼
►
creative with poetry so in the Soviet
00:38:13
◼
►
times poets were like pop stars
00:38:15
◼
►
apparently this seems like something a
00:38:17
◼
►
poet would tell you but okay I'm gonna
00:38:19
◼
►
I'm going to run with it for the purpose
00:38:20
◼
►
of the story anyway this is by the by
00:38:22
◼
►
we're being taken to a house for lunch
00:38:24
◼
►
we were going to have a look at the Tank
00:38:25
◼
►
Museum and then we were going to go to
00:38:27
◼
►
the airport so this taxi driver comes to
00:38:29
◼
►
pick us up from Dubner at the hotel and
00:38:32
◼
►
Martin explains to this taxi driver in
00:38:35
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►
Russian you have to take us to this
00:38:36
◼
►
house first and we're going to be there
00:38:38
◼
►
for a few hours eating going to a museum
00:38:40
◼
►
and then you're taking us to the airport
00:38:42
◼
►
and the taxi driver didn't know this
00:38:44
◼
►
what he had done is he was being a bit
00:38:47
◼
►
naughty and he had arranged for his wife
00:38:50
◼
►
to come with us on the drive to Moscow
00:38:52
◼
►
and he was going to use the trip as a
00:38:53
◼
►
chance to take his wife for the day
00:38:55
◼
►
shopping in Moscow so his plans are
00:38:58
◼
►
suddenly had been scuppered so he was
00:39:00
◼
►
pretty unhappy so he drove to the
00:39:02
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►
apartment building where he lived where
00:39:04
◼
►
his wife was waiting at the front and
00:39:05
◼
►
she was all dressed up and she had loads
00:39:08
◼
►
and loads of makeup on and she'd
00:39:09
◼
►
obviously done her hair cuz her hair was
00:39:11
◼
►
standing at some angle that I can't
00:39:13
◼
►
believe was even physically possible she
00:39:15
◼
►
was clearly a woman dressed for her big
00:39:16
◼
►
day out in Moscow and he's had to go up
00:39:19
◼
►
and say to her look we can't go because
00:39:21
◼
►
I've got to take these people to some
00:39:23
◼
►
house and sit outside the house for
00:39:24
◼
►
three hours and he was telling her go
00:39:26
◼
►
back you're not coming but she was like
00:39:28
◼
►
no I'm all dressed up I've got my makeup
00:39:30
◼
►
on I look amazing I'm coming to Moscow
00:39:33
◼
►
anyway yeah you can't say no to a woman
00:39:35
◼
►
at the end of her preparation ritual and
00:39:37
◼
►
I think like no sorry like whatever
00:39:39
◼
►
plans you had for the day if she
00:39:41
◼
►
finished getting ready your plans are
00:39:43
◼
►
changing that's what's happening and I
00:39:44
◼
►
can assure you this woman had spent a
00:39:46
◼
►
long time getting ready it was evident
00:39:48
◼
►
so she gets in the car and it's all I've
00:39:50
◼
►
already got like three bags on my lap
00:39:52
◼
►
because I can't put my bags on the chair
00:39:55
◼
►
it's been reserved for her in the car so
00:39:57
◼
►
like everyone's pretty inconvenienced by
00:39:59
◼
►
this whole thing
00:40:00
◼
►
we drive for two hours to this house and
00:40:03
◼
►
we park outside and we say something
00:40:04
◼
►
like do you want to like come in or
00:40:05
◼
►
something like that and they're like no
00:40:07
◼
►
of course not
00:40:07
◼
►
so they're parked out in the snow and
00:40:10
◼
►
they have to sit out in their car for
00:40:12
◼
►
three hours while I go inside which I
00:40:16
◼
►
couldn't believe they were doing so I go
00:40:18
◼
►
inside Martin speaks Russian to this
00:40:21
◼
►
woman for three hours she did speak a
00:40:23
◼
►
bit of English and she was really polite
00:40:25
◼
►
and nice to me but I have to tell you it
00:40:27
◼
►
was pretty hard work for me sitting
00:40:28
◼
►
there watching two people who were bit
00:40:31
◼
►
older talking Russian to each other but
00:40:34
◼
►
I couldn't get away I couldn't escape
00:40:35
◼
►
and like Martin was there for trying to
00:40:37
◼
►
include me so every 2 or 3 sentences
00:40:40
◼
►
Martin would give me a brief summary of
00:40:42
◼
►
what had just been said and it was quite
00:40:44
◼
►
you know boring stuff ah she just told
00:40:47
◼
►
me that her uncle is remarried to her
00:40:49
◼
►
aunt Maria and I really uh like I'm
00:40:53
◼
►
having a social freakout just even
00:40:54
◼
►
listening to you describe this like I
00:40:56
◼
►
don't think I could handle this I don't
00:40:57
◼
►
think I could psychologically handle the
00:40:58
◼
►
situation and I love Martin he's like
00:41:00
◼
►
family and I love spending time with him
00:41:02
◼
►
but this was quite difficult I think it
00:41:04
◼
►
was difficult for everyone and I was
00:41:06
◼
►
sitting at this table with all this like
00:41:08
◼
►
alcohol and really rich Russian food
00:41:10
◼
►
filling my nostrils and I was starting
00:41:12
◼
►
to feel a bit unwell and then eventually
00:41:14
◼
►
we get to go to this Tank Museum and we
00:41:18
◼
►
walk around and there was a funny moment
00:41:20
◼
►
cuz apparently this woman's famous but
00:41:21
◼
►
she was like showing Martin around and
00:41:23
◼
►
at some point some person in the Tank
00:41:24
◼
►
Museum walked up to her and I think she
00:41:26
◼
►
was preparing herself for the yes yes I
00:41:28
◼
►
am who you think I am
00:41:29
◼
►
this guy actually said to her do you
00:41:31
◼
►
realize who that is that you're
00:41:33
◼
►
translating for that's Martyn Poliakoff
00:41:34
◼
►
from periodic videos which he thought
00:41:37
◼
►
was quite funny and then we went back to
00:41:40
◼
►
the house we said our goodbyes and it
00:41:42
◼
►
was all good and we get in the car and
00:41:44
◼
►
we say to them okay we're ready to go
00:41:46
◼
►
and this woman who's been sitting in the
00:41:48
◼
►
car for three hours with all her makeup
00:41:50
◼
►
on her head and who's day we've ruined
00:41:52
◼
►
just turns around us as one moment and
00:41:54
◼
►
she goes back to the house where the old
00:41:57
◼
►
woman who we've been with is sort of
00:41:59
◼
►
standing waving goodbye to us and this
00:42:01
◼
►
woman goes up to her and like shakes her
00:42:04
◼
►
hand and like almost falls to her knees
00:42:06
◼
►
and starts crying
00:42:09
◼
►
and says that she cannot believe what
00:42:10
◼
►
her honor has been to sit outside her
00:42:12
◼
►
house for the last three hours meeting
00:42:15
◼
►
this person is like the highlight of her
00:42:16
◼
►
life Wow and then she comes back to the
00:42:18
◼
►
car and says I can't believe I just got
00:42:20
◼
►
to meet her thank you so much like she
00:42:21
◼
►
is a living museum to the history of
00:42:23
◼
►
Russia and like this has been like the
00:42:25
◼
►
most massive honor I could ever have had
00:42:27
◼
►
say this woman whose day we ruined and
00:42:29
◼
►
whose shopping trip we ruined ended up
00:42:31
◼
►
sitting outside someone who I don't know
00:42:33
◼
►
who it's the equivalent of but it's like
00:42:34
◼
►
the most famous person to hear in all of
00:42:36
◼
►
Russia and she just got to meet her and
00:42:38
◼
►
she couldn't believe it she was so
00:42:40
◼
►
I feel way less doubtful about your
00:42:42
◼
►
statement of the fame of poets in Russia
00:42:44
◼
►
after that yeah I mean this woman has
00:42:47
◼
►
written like a hundred books she was
00:42:49
◼
►
showing but you know those pictures of
00:42:50
◼
►
her with Yuri Gagarin and Vladimir Putin
00:42:53
◼
►
and all that stuff she's a mover and a
00:42:54
◼
►
shaker so mm-hmm so turns out for this
00:42:56
◼
►
three hours I was sitting at the table
00:42:58
◼
►
absolutely bored out of my brains I was
00:43:00
◼
►
with this super famous Russian person
00:43:02
◼
►
and to me it was just a couple of old
00:43:04
◼
►
people talking about Auntie Maria that's
00:43:06
◼
►
the thing with Fame right it is a light
00:43:08
◼
►
that only works in some circles right
00:43:10
◼
►
yeah if you're outside of it it's just
00:43:11
◼
►
totally meaningless yeah yeah I tell you
00:43:15
◼
►
I got organization to sign my periodic
00:43:18
◼
►
table with organist on on it which is
00:43:20
◼
►
now one of my prized possessions ooh
00:43:22
◼
►
gonna hang that up they're gonna go up
00:43:24
◼
►
in your office I might get it framed
00:43:25
◼
►
it's pretty special only the second
00:43:28
◼
►
person alive ever to have their name on
00:43:30
◼
►
the table Glenn Seaborg was the other
00:43:32
◼
►
one and he's dead now big deal that I
00:43:35
◼
►
didn't know what you were up to in
00:43:36
◼
►
Russia but it sounds like you were up to
00:43:38
◼
►
a hell of a lot is what you were up to
00:43:40
◼
►
yeah and like at one point Martin did in
00:43:43
◼
►
his speech like mentioned me and put a
00:43:45
◼
►
photo of me up and everyone like clapped
00:43:47
◼
►
and I had to get up and wave the
00:43:48
◼
►
audience so like I had my little moment
00:43:50
◼
►
although it was belittled a little bit
00:43:53
◼
►
by the fact that when Martin first got
00:43:55
◼
►
on stage he had a frog in his throat
00:43:56
◼
►
and he said Brady can you bring me a
00:43:58
◼
►
water so the first thing I had to do was
00:44:00
◼
►
like walk onstage and bring him a bottle
00:44:02
◼
►
of water at which point I felt totally
00:44:04
◼
►
like the lackey I didn't feel like the
00:44:06
◼
►
big bad a filmmaker then I felt like
00:44:07
◼
►
he's a personal assistant exactly he's a
00:44:10
◼
►
knight and you are the squire yeah boy
00:44:14
◼
►
bring me some water
00:44:16
◼
►
anyway that's a lot of talk about Russia
00:44:18
◼
►
so it's a big country but funny you
00:44:20
◼
►
should say that because one of the
00:44:21
◼
►
things that did
00:44:22
◼
►
her to me and like this is not a big
00:44:24
◼
►
deal it just to pop into my head is you
00:44:26
◼
►
know how they were like those apps and
00:44:27
◼
►
things where you like list the countries
00:44:29
◼
►
you've been to and then it like renders
00:44:31
◼
►
a map that colors in other countries
00:44:33
◼
►
you've been to just by going to Moscow
00:44:35
◼
►
and dog know which is like two hours
00:44:37
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outside Moscow I have now colored in a
00:44:39
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massive massive section of that map oh
00:44:42
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yeah so when I look at the map of
00:44:45
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countries I've been to now like most of
00:44:47
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us colored in there just by going to
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Moscow you're totally cheating by doing
00:44:51
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it but actually I think it's not really
00:44:53
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cheating because most of the people live
00:44:55
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on just this tiny little sliver by
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Moscow anyway so it's like I yeah you
00:44:58
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know you covered most of the people area
00:45:01
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I guess so it's fine you can color in
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that mole section so oh like Siberia and
00:45:06
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Kamchatka and all those areas are all
00:45:07
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colored in now but I've never even seen
00:45:09
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them yeah you got that man don't worry
00:45:11
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yeah no you're cool on the binary map
00:45:15
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you have ticked this box I've done a few
00:45:17
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of those apps where you do that and you
00:45:19
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list all your countries and it colors
00:45:20
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them in but it does the United States
00:45:22
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separately as States and you got a list
00:45:25
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the states you've been to that's goddamn
00:45:27
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right yeah of course
00:45:28
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oh how American centric is that that's
00:45:31
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crazy there's not American centric it's
00:45:33
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just the way it should be you know just
00:45:35
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like the states they need to have their
00:45:37
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own emoji flags and the emoji picker was
00:45:39
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we decided last time it's clearly that's
00:45:42
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the way it should be yeah and yeah if
00:45:44
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you're traveling to America it only
00:45:45
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counts statewide you don't get to take
00:45:47
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the whole country of a match Brady Brady
00:45:49
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do you know how wildly culturally
00:45:53
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diverse the United States is in
00:45:55
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different areas they're like totally
00:45:58
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different countries and just think about
00:46:00
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it you know Delaware is so different
00:46:02
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from New Jersey true they might as well
00:46:03
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be thousands of miles apart you have to
00:46:06
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color in each one of those states
00:46:08
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separately if you don't get the color in
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all of America now it's amazing how much
00:46:11
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the cuisine changes from state to state
00:46:13
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like the subtle variations of barbecue
00:46:16
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sauce but do you see I actually will
00:46:19
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argue that's quite important you pick
00:46:23
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the wrong one there buddy
00:46:24
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I figure in America you can actually
00:46:27
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draw like four or five big distinction
00:46:32
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areas but even then like it's not
00:46:35
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the United States is pretty homogeneous
00:46:37
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you're either on the west coast where
00:46:38
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it's sunny mm-hmm or the East Coast
00:46:41
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where it's like bit cold mm-hmm for you
00:46:44
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in the middle that yeah and you ever say
00:46:46
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from the plane anyway so it doesn't
00:46:47
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really matter there's a huge section of
00:46:48
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no-man's land there the coasts and then
00:46:51
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there's the south
00:46:53
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yeah and that's sort of it yeah that's
00:46:55
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my mental map of America yeah no-man's
00:46:57
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land beautiful though you got a drive
00:46:59
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through it some day doesn't count if
00:47:00
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you're flying over you don't get to take
00:47:01
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the states if you fly over I really want
00:47:03
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to drive across America and my wife who
00:47:06
◼
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loves travel and adventure it's the one
00:47:08
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holiday and trip I can't
00:47:10
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enthuse her about like she went to every
00:47:12
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Space Camp with me and she'll do
00:47:13
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anything and she wants to see everything
00:47:15
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and I always say let's drive across
00:47:16
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America and she just thinks I don't know
00:47:19
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she's got limited holidays and it just
00:47:21
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doesn't capture her imagination I can't
00:47:23
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get her to do it well you got to do it
00:47:26
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on your own Brady I can't do it on my
00:47:27
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own that's too big a waste of my time
00:47:30
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too big of a waste of time with a once
00:47:33
◼
►
in a lifetime opportunity everybody
00:47:34
◼
►
should do let's do a podcast road trip
00:47:36
◼
►
we'll do the hello internet across
00:47:38
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►
America record an episode each night I
00:47:40
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►
am pretty sure one of us would not
00:47:43
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►
survive that trip really if we had to do
00:47:45
◼
►
it together I think we would strangle
00:47:47
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►
each other to death maybe both of us
00:47:49
◼
►
wouldn't survive who knows I think we'd
00:47:51
◼
►
be right because there's like a
00:47:53
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►
formality and politeness between us
00:47:55
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►
where I think we would never have a big
00:47:57
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►
argument like I think we'd be or are we
00:47:59
◼
►
in the same car together yeah of course
00:48:01
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okay are we staying in the same hotel
00:48:02
◼
►
rooms no different rooms we did that
00:48:05
◼
►
once okay yeah so yeah that was fine but
00:48:08
◼
►
no different rooms of course different
00:48:09
◼
►
rooms I don't know all right now I'm
00:48:11
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►
just thinking you seem very confident so
00:48:13
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►
you throw a little bit of doubt in my
00:48:14
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►
mind I have no doubt we'd get along mmm
00:48:17
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►
but whether or not you know that's how
00:48:19
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►
we want to spend it hugs a lot of
00:48:21
◼
►
questions it'd be quite interesting
00:48:27
◼
►
hello internet across America yeah hello
00:48:30
◼
►
Internet ultimate roadtrip we could
00:48:32
◼
►
review different flags we saw along the
00:48:35
◼
►
each night we could do a few press ups
00:48:38
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►
and do a bit of filler Tron live star no
00:48:42
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►
he just ate a press up I tell you what
00:48:44
◼
►
that's the big difference coming from
00:48:46
◼
►
Russia to America the extreme
00:48:48
◼
►
differences in food like my host in
00:48:51
◼
►
Russia are great and they put us in like
00:48:52
◼
►
a posh place but even then the food was
00:48:55
◼
►
pretty ropey mm-hmm and then you come to
00:48:56
◼
►
America and it's just like whoa yeah
00:48:59
◼
►
look at all that's amazing stuff oh
00:49:02
◼
►
you're out there in Berkeley you go to
00:49:04
◼
►
the local pizza place they give you an
00:49:06
◼
►
extra pizza with a wink without you've
00:49:08
◼
►
been asking it's amazing I've already
00:49:10
◼
►
had my extra slice last night extra
00:49:12
◼
►
slice or extra pie Brady which which was
00:49:14
◼
►
it it was three extra slices because I
00:49:16
◼
►
only wanted a half pizza and when you
00:49:18
◼
►
order a half baked side head then give
00:49:19
◼
►
you three extra slices in the box so
00:49:21
◼
►
it's three quarters of a pizza or seven
00:49:24
◼
►
eighths of the pizza how big are these
00:49:25
◼
►
slices I would say they give you half a
00:49:27
◼
►
pizza and then with the extra stuff you
00:49:28
◼
►
probably get just short of three
00:49:30
◼
►
quarters it's a big pizza though mm-hmm
00:49:34
◼
►
I've literally gone from like Russian
00:49:37
◼
►
brown bread to a place called the
00:49:40
◼
►
gourmet ghetto the shows the extremes of
00:49:42
◼
►
the world yeah well I think we've made
00:49:45
◼
►
it official before but we all know
00:49:46
◼
►
calories in America don't count that's
00:49:49
◼
►
how it works when you're in America
00:49:51
◼
►
everything's fine those calories don't
00:49:53
◼
►
count if you live there yeah obviously
00:49:56
◼
►
the calories count but if you're just
00:49:57
◼
►
visiting doesn't count at all that's how
00:49:59
◼
►
that works there's this song by a band
00:50:01
◼
►
called Liberty X that's got this line in
00:50:03
◼
►
it it's about like you know love and
00:50:05
◼
►
stuff and it's about being apart and the
00:50:07
◼
►
line in the song says I'm on my own all
00:50:10
◼
►
alone a thousand miles from home there's
00:50:13
◼
►
temptation all around but the idea is
00:50:16
◼
►
I'd love you and I'm staying true to you
00:50:17
◼
►
because I love you so much so I was in
00:50:19
◼
►
Safeway the other day in the cake
00:50:20
◼
►
section was surrounded by all the
00:50:22
◼
►
amazing stuff so I've made a video for
00:50:24
◼
►
my wife where I played that song really
00:50:26
◼
►
loudly so it was playing in the
00:50:28
◼
►
background and I was just filming all
00:50:29
◼
►
the cakes and it just said I'm on my own
00:50:32
◼
►
nerves you know temptation all around
00:50:35
◼
►
and I was panning across all these cakes
00:50:37
◼
►
and cream puffs and stuff she got a bit
00:50:41
◼
►
of a laugh out of that I've still got it
00:50:44
◼
►
I'll post it somewhere for people to
00:50:45
◼
►
have a laugh at
00:50:46
◼
►
that's fantastic yeah that's absolutely
00:50:48
◼
►
that's and so true yeah and I I'm really
00:50:52
◼
►
trying with my feet of Tron lifestyle at
00:50:55
◼
►
the moment and this is just a torpedo
00:50:57
◼
►
this week coming back to Berkeley
00:50:59
◼
►
I feel like we need to back up in the
00:51:00
◼
►
story a little bit because like oh
00:51:01
◼
►
you're trying with the fit Tron
00:51:02
◼
►
lifestyle but wait why were you in a
00:51:04
◼
►
cake store no I was in Safeway doing my
00:51:07
◼
►
grocery shopping there's just so much
00:51:08
◼
►
good stuff everywhere it's like you
00:51:10
◼
►
can't help her okay poor Americans I
00:51:13
◼
►
don't blame them it's terrible what's
00:51:15
◼
►
being done to you everywhere you look
00:51:17
◼
►
there's just delicious food and it's all
00:51:19
◼
►
so big it's not fair it isn't fair and
00:51:22
◼
►
it's it's interesting because this is
00:51:25
◼
►
actually a topic upon which I have
00:51:27
◼
►
changed my mind over the last few years
00:51:30
◼
►
like I think there really is something
00:51:32
◼
►
to the idea that like American obesity
00:51:36
◼
►
is not just because Americans are lazy
00:51:38
◼
►
like it's because there there is food
00:51:41
◼
►
everywhere in huge portions that's
00:51:44
◼
►
delicious and I feel like people are
00:51:46
◼
►
obviously affected by their environment
00:51:49
◼
►
there's all kinds of interesting like
00:51:51
◼
►
experiments that you can do that can
00:51:52
◼
►
show like how you can sort of fool
00:51:54
◼
►
people into eating more and you know
00:51:57
◼
►
I've just been finding out about like
00:51:58
◼
►
how foods are designed I feel like I've
00:52:00
◼
►
really changed my mind on this to some
00:52:03
◼
►
extent that it's like this is way more
00:52:04
◼
►
of an environmental issue than it is
00:52:07
◼
►
like a personal issue it's a lot easier
00:52:10
◼
►
to stay slim in Russia because the food
00:52:11
◼
►
is disgusting and nobody wants it well
00:52:13
◼
►
that's it I've gone from like literally
00:52:15
◼
►
when I was having dinner in Russia they
00:52:16
◼
►
were bringing me out like a plate of
00:52:18
◼
►
grated cabbage and a piece of brown
00:52:21
◼
►
bread and like because it was a posh
00:52:24
◼
►
place you know a piece of meat and that
00:52:26
◼
►
was like a nice meal and I enjoyed don't
00:52:28
◼
►
get me wrong I enjoyed it and then I
00:52:30
◼
►
come here and like I go to the pizza
00:52:33
◼
►
place and I order half a pizza to show
00:52:35
◼
►
restraint and they're throwing more
00:52:36
◼
►
pieces at me to eat here have more
00:52:38
◼
►
melted cheese what can you do
00:52:41
◼
►
now there's nothing you can do there's
00:52:43
◼
►
nothing oh yeah there is you can not eat
00:52:45
◼
►
it but no no no very left look back up
00:52:48
◼
►
right logical conclusion is there's
00:52:50
◼
►
nothing you can do right if it's largely
00:52:52
◼
►
environment then there's no personal
00:52:54
◼
►
responsibility
00:52:56
◼
►
how is that fitted Tron lifestyle going
00:52:58
◼
►
are you you okay with that or I mean
00:53:00
◼
►
obviously all bets are off for the next
00:53:02
◼
►
two weeks my body doesn't realize that
00:53:03
◼
►
so I still pay the penalty but I'm off
00:53:06
◼
►
the horse at the moment but prior to
00:53:08
◼
►
that I think I've done about 20 odd
00:53:10
◼
►
personal training sessions I'm doing
00:53:12
◼
►
three training sessions a week so I'm
00:53:14
◼
►
getting a lot stronger and fitter but I
00:53:17
◼
►
hadn't yet modified my eating mmm-hmm
00:53:19
◼
►
but for the week and a half or so before
00:53:22
◼
►
I left I started calorie counting again
00:53:25
◼
►
mm-hm and I'm going to calorie count
00:53:26
◼
►
again when I get home so now I'm
00:53:28
◼
►
attacking it on both the fronts I need
00:53:30
◼
►
to be attacking on the exercise and the
00:53:33
◼
►
reduced calorie intake so I have no like
00:53:36
◼
►
stats to report or anything like that
00:53:38
◼
►
but I am doing it I'm working it hard
00:53:41
◼
►
that's fantastic I'm really glad to hear
00:53:43
◼
►
that you've been sticking with the
00:53:44
◼
►
personal trainer mmm I was wondering
00:53:46
◼
►
because very early on in this process
00:53:47
◼
►
you sent me an awesome-looking photo of
00:53:52
◼
►
you like silhouetted against the light
00:53:54
◼
►
holding kettlebells like looking like a
00:53:56
◼
►
total badass and I was like oh wow look
00:53:59
◼
►
at this like Brady's doing it me and
00:54:00
◼
►
then you told me later on that oh that
00:54:02
◼
►
wasn't a picture of you in the middle of
00:54:04
◼
►
exercising that was a picture of you
00:54:05
◼
►
just moving kettlebells out of the way
00:54:07
◼
►
someone else has happened to snap and I
00:54:09
◼
►
was like what's he really doing I don't
00:54:11
◼
►
know I just saw the really nice
00:54:12
◼
►
silhouette and the window and I had just
00:54:14
◼
►
been using a kettlebell and I know that
00:54:16
◼
►
your wife was a fan of kettlebells
00:54:18
◼
►
basically it was just a posed picture to
00:54:20
◼
►
show off to your wife of me holding your
00:54:23
◼
►
kettlebell but like you know I was
00:54:25
◼
►
exercising I was therefore doing an hour
00:54:26
◼
►
of exercise it wasn't like I was doing
00:54:28
◼
►
an hour long photo shoot so that I could
00:54:30
◼
►
well yeah the photos look like a little
00:54:32
◼
►
bit that was the feeling I was getting I
00:54:34
◼
►
was like what's he doing over there I'm
00:54:35
◼
►
doing it so I think my body's getting
00:54:37
◼
►
stronger mm-hmm but I was still like
00:54:39
◼
►
going to the gym and then maybe getting
00:54:41
◼
►
a sneaky McDonald's on the way home so
00:54:43
◼
►
there's no more of that now now it's
00:54:45
◼
►
going to the gym and then going home and
00:54:46
◼
►
eating like you know brown rice yeah
00:54:49
◼
►
gruel that's a drink no meetings just
00:54:51
◼
►
some gruel I tell you what I should just
00:54:53
◼
►
go to Russia for three months
00:54:54
◼
►
honest to god I bet that would sort you
00:54:56
◼
►
out yeah totally think that it always
00:54:58
◼
►
find it's like much easier to keep at
00:55:02
◼
►
being strict with what you're eating in
00:55:04
◼
►
a different environment
00:55:05
◼
►
I honestly think if you went to Russia
00:55:07
◼
►
for three months you'd come back looking
00:55:09
◼
►
like Adonis Brady
00:55:10
◼
►
I think that's what it would happen
00:55:10
◼
►
what's your kind of fit a Tron lifestyle
00:55:12
◼
►
now I mean obviously you hit it hard to
00:55:14
◼
►
lose all this weight you wanted to lose
00:55:16
◼
►
now you living some regime now or are
00:55:18
◼
►
you more just going back to what you
00:55:20
◼
►
were doing before but keeping it steady
00:55:22
◼
►
or lucky exercising a lot are you really
00:55:25
◼
►
discipline data still law it's been an
00:55:27
◼
►
interesting process because this past
00:55:29
◼
►
month I've been pretty terrible about
00:55:31
◼
►
making it to the gym I haven't been
00:55:33
◼
►
really good about that but that process
00:55:35
◼
►
that I went through last time I feel
00:55:37
◼
►
like really did fundamentally change a
00:55:40
◼
►
lot of the kind of foods that I eat
00:55:41
◼
►
right I mean if you rewind to two years
00:55:44
◼
►
ago I had essentially an all
00:55:46
◼
►
carbohydrate based diet like there was
00:55:47
◼
►
nothing that I ate that wasn't
00:55:49
◼
►
carbohydrates and now that's really
00:55:51
◼
►
dropped and so I don't know if other
00:55:54
◼
►
people have this feeling but I feel like
00:55:55
◼
►
there are like snap points that my body
00:55:58
◼
►
wants to maintain weight at and before
00:56:03
◼
►
the fit of Tron lifestyle like I was
00:56:05
◼
►
properly like overweight and it felt
00:56:07
◼
►
like my body really wanted to stay
00:56:09
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around that weight and so now that I
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dropped under 200 pounds like just under
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200 I feel like this is another point
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that my body wants to stay around like
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in the last month where I haven't been
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exercising as much as I was exercising
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prior to that my body weight actually
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hasn't changed all that much right so
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it's like okay it's interesting it
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doesn't want to go up and also when I've
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been like a few months ago I was like
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you know what I really want to break the
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190 barrier but I could feel like I have
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this same resistance just like when I
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was much heavier that like my body just
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doesn't want to go down and it feels
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like it would take a lot of effort to
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actually get down to the next level so
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there's some kind of homeostasis I think
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that happens at different points I don't
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know if there's anything to back that up
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but that's really the way it feels so I
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am at a homeostasis point that I'm
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pretty happy about but it is on my mind
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that I still would like to at some point
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in the future really try to step it up
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and see if I can find like another
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homeostasis point that's a little bit
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further down the curve but yeah so
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you've been very good with exercising
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and I have not been so good with
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exercising in the past month
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that's where we are you've also put a
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little seed in my head now that there's
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some homeostasis point out there for me
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that if I can just get to it I couldn't
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start eating crap again and stay at the
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low weight I don't want to like put that
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idea in your head but I have found it
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interesting to note that when I haven't
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been good with food it doesn't seem to
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affect me as much as when I was heavier
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like when I was heavier if I dropped a
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couple pounds and then I ate one sneaky
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mcdonald it was like boom immediately
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back up another two pounds I think the
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homeostasis point it does exist Brady
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there's a ring out there somewhere that
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if you can just grasp it yeah then you
00:57:58
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can go back to eating McDonald's like
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you really want we'll say we'll say I
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think the next week or so is going to be
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hard here in California but I'll do my
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best and then when I get back to the UK
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oh I'll get back on the horse good luck
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the show do you know the counter of the
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number of videos that are responsible
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for since you released a video which you
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know I think is ridiculous but it does
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exist I think there's a real chance I'm
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going to get to a hundred unless you're
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about to put a video out in the next few
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days now I'm going to get to a hundred
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videos since you last player video oh
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yeah I totally think you're going to hit
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100 I think you're going to hit a
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hundred that's going to happen say
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putting one out in the next week or two
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I just want to know because if you are
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maybe I will batch release a few just so
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I can get the hundred now I got a
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warning yeah it feels like it should be
01:00:09
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some sort of trophy maybe that you can
01:00:11
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get likely put it up on your wall like a
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hundred video yeah what about a gray
01:00:15
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button yeah I could give you a gray
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button for that and you get a diamond
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button if it hasn't that's the way that
01:00:21
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could work I'm sure the next one will be
01:00:23
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a cracker that's the bad thing about
01:00:24
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having a big gap is everyone's like oh
01:00:26
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my god the next one he's got to be
01:00:27
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working on some huge project is like no
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people it's not a huge project no
01:00:31
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expectations like it's just gonna be a
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thing that's all it's gonna be an iPhone
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unboxing oh my god I should totally do
01:00:36
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that that'd be a fantastic idea
01:00:39
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especially midseason right just like
01:00:40
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I'll do an iPhone unboxing now for a
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phone that's six months old yeah no
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comment at all just upload it without
01:00:46
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any remarks just like oh yeah this is
01:00:48
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what it is that's actually a brilliant
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idea just release it the data counter
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gets to 99 to spite me there's literally
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what I was just thinking is like what
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can I put together I'm gonna write a
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little script to keep an eye on that
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counter number and to get notified the
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incident goes up to 99 and then like BAM
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alright I've got a really something
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anything it could just be 5 seconds of
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sorry Brady yeah not this dark art man
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you're saying this it's so tempting so
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tempting Brady you too I don't much you
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do it I think the catchy things
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ridiculous anyway but it is a handy
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resource for me I don't think the
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counter is so ridiculous because I don't
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really take it so seriously but I do
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think it's ridiculous that you get
01:01:24
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credit for computer file on that count
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yes that seems ridiculous that is
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ridiculous that is ridiculous so we have
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to subtract that out from your 100 score
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yes because of course nearly all the
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videos on computer file are made by Sean
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I don't actually even see all of them
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mm-hmm I have some responsibility for
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them and is part of my business you're
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like the producer that's what you are
01:01:44
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yeah but you're right they are not a
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drain on my time so but I think it's
01:01:48
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funny that they're included speaking of
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planting seeds and ideas I think we need
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to deal with something I know we've got
01:01:57
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a lot of other stuff to talk about but
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I've got to get this off my chest
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in the last episode gray planted in my
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head an idea and it was not it obviously
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it was not his intention and as soon as
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he did it he tried to undo it but I'm
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afraid I feel
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things have gotten out of control I feel
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like I've been trying to undo this
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behind-the-scenes Brady and say I'm
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talking about limited edition hello
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internet sneakers trainers shoes because
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gray pointed out that he had just
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recently found out about the world of
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sort of limited edition sneakers that
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were sold to be collectible sneaker
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heads sneaker heads and I sort of
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thought I think what you don't
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understand I don't know if you were like
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this was newer a young lad gray but I
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went through a phase of being obsessed
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with sneakers like I remember being on
01:02:43
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the school bus every day and just
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talking with my friend Chris for hours
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about the latest Nike Air Jordans or
01:02:49
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Reebok pumps or added s torsions and I
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would go home on my computer and like
01:02:54
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design like my dream pair of sneakers
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and every time one of us would get a new
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pair like if dad took us shopping
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sneakers which was the ultimate
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experience taking at them on the bus the
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next day and showing your friends that I
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really for a fee as I was quite obsessed
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with the culture of sneakers probably
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like a lot of young people were you ever
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into sneakers like that yeah this is
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totally foreign to me I did not
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experience this I don't think I knew
01:03:16
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anybody who experienced this okay I
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didn't understand what we were stepping
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into when I brought this up last time so
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anyway it brought back a lot of
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nostalgia for me and because of the
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success of the vinyl episode having like
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created a physical thing I sort of
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thought imagine that imagine having like
01:03:32
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releasing a pair of sneakers hello
01:03:34
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internet sneakers so I've taken the ball
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and run with it and we are now going to
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make available hello internet sneakers I
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can't believe you've really done this
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Brady I can't I know but I want to make
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this clear this is not like a
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mass-market product and I want to start
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this by encouraging everyone who is
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listening now to not order a pair of
01:03:57
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these sneakers do not order them you are
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not missing out on anything there's no
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like material or episode of hello
01:04:03
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Internet you're gonna miss out on you
01:04:05
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should not get these in fact I would
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suggest like skipping now what have you
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done Brady I don't know anything about
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this what have you done I want the to
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watch words for the next few minutes to
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be quality oh okay and understatement
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that's been my mission because look I
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saw some people make designs of possible
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and they made them like look like over
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the top basketball high-top shoes and
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things like that and it was very funny
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but I wanted to create a pair of shoes
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that I think you and I would wear Oh God
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okay but also I wanted them to be like
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the highest quality I didn't want to
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like get some cheap knockoff China thing
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where you could mass-produce
01:04:44
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a thousand pairs of some shoddy things
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that fall apart or were like super cheap
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I wanted to make something like special
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because I cut you know like wearing nice
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shoes so what I've done is I've teamed
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up with a company called crown in
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Northampton in England which is like the
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shoe making capital of England and it's
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a place that also has family
01:05:07
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associations for me so it was important
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to get in touch with my shoe making
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roots I've modified one of their premium
01:05:15
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sneakers that they make these aren't
01:05:17
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like sneakers that you would go and like
01:05:18
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runyan these are like nice dress leather
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sneakers that you would wear to look
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nice in leather okay
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yeah and they're going to be like dark
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grey hello internet color with white
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trimming and like a white toe area and
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then embossed with a specially made
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brass stamp which is currently been
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forged embossed on one side is the nail
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and gear into the leather but it's not
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like colour it's not going to be like a
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big white nail and gear and look all
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it's like just embossed into the leather
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it's just depressed into the leather
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subtle classy and then on the tongue of
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the leather upper
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another brass step but I'm having made
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is embossed again the a chai so it's got
01:06:00
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the hello internet branding but like you
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wouldn't immediately know to look at it
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I want it to look nice you could wear
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this out to a bar and you know look cool
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and like we were going to have white
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laces and we may still have white laces
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available but I just thought it would
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look better with the gray laces which
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have to be specially imported from Italy
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there's special waxed laser oh oh this
01:06:22
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is like a premium premium pair of shoes
01:06:25
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oh my god yeah oh my god Brady they're
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gonna look amazing I've already got like
01:06:31
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a sample of one of the other shoes but
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obviously these ones haven't been made
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yet so the hello Internet limited
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edition sneakers are a thing but they're
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they're really expensive gray they're
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made in England already which is already
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going to make them expensive and I can't
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undercut the price they sell them for
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elsewhere anyway so I have to use like
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the market controlled price so these are
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expensive shoes you should not buy them
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I'm getting a pair and I'm going to get
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gray a pair when he gives me his shoe
01:06:59
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size if anyone else wants them because
01:07:01
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they're really into sneakers already
01:07:03
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likes them you can order them you can
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order your size and then they'll be made
01:07:07
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to order to your specifications these
01:07:09
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are bespoke special sneakers but if you
01:07:13
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are not obsessed with sneakers or you
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don't have like money to spend do not
01:07:18
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order these do not order these I'll
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share pictures of them and people can
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look at them and I'll make a video of
01:07:23
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how they're made and you can just enjoy
01:07:24
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that you don't need to own them but if
01:07:27
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you for some reason want oh they will be
01:07:28
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out there to be owned you have an actual
01:07:31
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cobbler yeah who's going to be yeah
01:07:33
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making shoes for people individually
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that's what's happening here it's an
01:07:38
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English family business that's been
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going for like a hundred years they
01:07:41
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specialize in shoes and these are going
01:07:43
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to be made to order the special color
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leather is being ordered the laces are
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being brought in from Italy each pair
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and be handmade in England to order to
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the for the person who ordered it I mean
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what like delivered to your door by a
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beautiful maiden on a horse like I like
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but don't step this at all okay I have
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to wrap my head around this whole thing
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alright you're saying that there is a
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company that still exists today yep that
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is just a bespoke custom small-scale
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shoe manufacturer like I almost feel
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like I can't believe that such a thing
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exists in the modern economy
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Northamptonshire which is a place close
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to my heart is famous for shoe making in
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England obviously most of the industry
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gets decimated like all these industries
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too but there are still a handful of
01:08:29
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these bespoke shoemakers littered around
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the county of Northampton sheer and I
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called on my friends but unbelievably I
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know people in the shoe business in
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Northampton cheer and I said to them I
01:08:41
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want limited edition sneakers who do I
01:08:43
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speak to and they said speak to this guy
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called Chris at crown he already makes
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these amazing sneakers I contacted him
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he showed me what he makes mhm I told
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him how I wanted them customer
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hasn't changed for hello Internet and
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we've been exchanging ideas and having
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phone calls and he's been sending me
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designs mm-hmm let me send you a picture
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now so you can get some idea of what
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we're talking about the final design is
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not yet in place so you will anyone who
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orders these will kind of be ordering
01:09:09
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them off plan so you're taking a bit of
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a risk this is a prototype image that
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that's what I'm gonna be looking at and
01:09:14
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it hasn't even got the nailing gear on
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it yet the one I'm sending you okay so
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imagine these kind of with a bit of a
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more of a gray upper nailing gear in
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subtly subtly embossed on the side
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what's an upper I don't know your shoe
01:09:27
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manufacturing terms the app is like the
01:09:29
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upper part of the shoe like with the
01:09:30
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leather and all that not like the rubber
01:09:32
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heel part that deals with where the
01:09:35
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rubber meets the road okay okay okay so
01:09:38
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I see what you mean by their formal
01:09:40
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sneakers yes you kept saying this and I
01:09:43
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have didn't really have any idea what
01:09:44
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you mean by this like I have no frame of
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reference yeah for the existence of
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formal sneakers yeah looking at this I
01:09:49
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can completely see what you mean that
01:09:51
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they are formal sneakers yeah you could
01:09:54
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wear them just casually but you could
01:09:56
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also get away with wearing them on a
01:09:58
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night out there like nice yeah they're
01:10:00
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not like going to the gym and running on
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the treadmill sneakers they're like
01:10:04
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casual wear I don't know what the word
01:10:06
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is I don't know enough about sneakers I
01:10:08
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should buy now but a studio I could
01:10:12
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definitely use a pair of sneakers that
01:10:13
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looks nice too let me get away with
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still wearing sneakers and it seems like
01:10:17
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these could definitely fit that bill you
01:10:18
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have to have a peg right surely even if
01:10:21
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you don't wear them you have to at least
01:10:22
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have except a pair well I have to accept
01:10:24
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a pair to wear for any in-person events
01:10:27
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we ever do when you're doing hello
01:10:29
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internet across America right and we
01:10:31
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stop at various cities that might look a
01:10:33
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bit weird if you and I wearing matching
01:10:34
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sneakers no no the awesome or look we
01:10:37
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can alternate the sneakers at different
01:10:39
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cities that's the way it can work right
01:10:41
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so we don't look too weird so I'll
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create a page you can put an order and
01:10:45
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if you want but please this is not like
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a business thing this is just a thing
01:10:50
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I've done so they can exist but it would
01:10:52
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pointless to make like one pair and just
01:10:54
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me right so I do like the idea that
01:10:55
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there are a few pairs out there but if
01:10:57
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you've got some weird completionist
01:10:59
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thing in your head that makes you think
01:11:00
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you have to own these you don't right
01:11:02
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there is nothing necessary about these
01:11:05
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this is Brady just doing
01:11:06
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a fun thing so that it can exist and
01:11:09
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they are out there so it feels like the
01:11:12
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most Brady project that you could
01:11:15
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possibly do to me it's just it really
01:11:17
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feels that way I'm just worried that
01:11:19
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people are going to get upset because
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like I didn't decide to like find the
01:11:23
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cheapest thing I could do and like you
01:11:25
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know I have a hundred made in China or
01:11:27
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something I decided to go down this
01:11:29
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bespoke English handmade cobbler artisan
01:11:32
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which is you know postures cushions kind
01:11:34
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of thing because I've gone down that
01:11:36
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path I realize it's going to exclude
01:11:38
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more most people it would exclude me I
01:11:41
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wouldn't buy them except that I'm doing
01:11:42
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it so I realized like this is these are
01:11:45
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more expensive than the sneakers I wear
01:11:46
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such a bit silly but how many times in
01:11:50
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my life am I gonna make like you know my
01:11:52
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own pair of sneakers so there you go I'm
01:11:54
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sorry I know it was not your intention
01:11:56
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and you tried so hard to stop me I
01:11:59
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really did I really did try to stop you
01:12:02
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Brady it was one of these things like
01:12:04
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sometimes you pitch me ideas and I feel
01:12:07
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like I can stop you yeah but I knew
01:12:09
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there was something about this one that
01:12:11
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right away even though it makes no sense
01:12:12
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at all as a project I just knew there
01:12:15
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was something about this that captured
01:12:16
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your mind so yeah I'm kind of not
01:12:19
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surprised that this has come to pass
01:12:21
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even though it's sort of a terrible idea
01:12:24
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I do think you out to me though and have
01:12:26
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no choice in the matter that you have to
01:12:27
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give these official status I would feel
01:12:29
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like a monster if I didn't give them
01:12:31
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official status
01:12:32
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so yes Brady these are the official
01:12:34
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limited-edition sneakers of hello
01:12:36
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Internet there you go give them my
01:12:39
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alright even though they're crazy and
01:12:41
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I'll get you a pair they do have sizes
01:12:43
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and all sorts they're like really it's a
01:12:45
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good product it is worthy of our name
01:12:47
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I'll have to figure out what my shoe
01:12:49
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sizes I'll send you the sizing chart and
01:12:51
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I'll be on the website as well and
01:12:52
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people couldn't figure it all out and so
01:12:55
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even though I don't think many people
01:12:57
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should own these I do want people to
01:12:58
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feel part of the process so I'm going to
01:13:01
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try and go to the factory when they're
01:13:02
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made and show how they were made oh cool
01:13:04
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I'm gonna see the nailing gear being
01:13:05
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embossed into the leather whoo that
01:13:07
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sounds very cool I like the idea that
01:13:09
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we've got a nailing gear brass stamp
01:13:11
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that had to be made as well that's
01:13:12
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pretty cool yeah do we get to keep that
01:13:13
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can I keep that as part of the process
01:13:15
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do you know what I haven't actually
01:13:16
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asked about that I'm paying for it so I
01:13:19
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would imagine so he said you could
01:13:20
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user for other things if you wanted like
01:13:22
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you could embossed leather key rings and
01:13:23
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stuff like that with it so it may come
01:13:25
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in handy one day if we ever have the
01:13:27
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official leather keyring of hello in
01:13:28
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today but for now it will just be
01:13:30
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something that sits somewhere like the
01:13:32
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official cast of the vinyl record which
01:13:34
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I don't know where their desire that
01:13:36
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wherever the the cast is they used to
01:13:37
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press the vinyl that must exist
01:13:39
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somewhere as well how's that for a
01:13:41
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collector's item wherever that is
01:13:42
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there you go hello internet sneakers
01:13:44
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limited edition you're an impressive man
01:13:46
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Brady Pasha's cuz you an impressive man
01:13:48
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ah now I'm gonna regret it it's gonna
01:13:50
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turn into some kind of debacle but I'm
01:13:52
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genuinely impressed but like as a side
01:13:54
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note that you've done this Brady's I
01:13:56
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can't believe it
01:13:57
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absolutely it was a bit easier than it
01:13:58
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sounds it doesn't matter I would never
01:14:00
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do it in a thousand years I would never
01:14:02
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even know where to start so I'm
01:14:03
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genuinely impressed I have a bit of flag
01:14:08
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news Brady hmm regular coverage of all
01:14:11
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the important flag news on our podcast
01:14:13
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yeah I never realized until we started
01:14:15
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hello Internet how much important flag
01:14:17
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news there was was all this flag news
01:14:19
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out there before we started like all of
01:14:21
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these controversies and votes and I mean
01:14:25
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obviously this stuff's been rolling on
01:14:26
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for years but now it's just flooding our
01:14:28
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inboxes I don't know there's always
01:14:29
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important flag news going on I mean how
01:14:32
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do you think the vexillology subreddit
01:14:34
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stays active every day like everything
01:14:36
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in the whole world but they manufacture
01:14:37
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their own news though they kind of cheat
01:14:39
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they're like oh let's design the
01:14:40
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American flag with you know the theme of
01:14:42
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pigeons like that's not news that's just
01:14:45
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flag nerds entertaining themselves I'm
01:14:48
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talking about real news like important
01:14:50
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stuff like changes to official nests
01:14:53
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there's always super important flag news
01:14:55
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like this story about how Nebraska flew
01:14:58
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its flag upside down at the Capitol for
01:15:01
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10 days and nobody noticed because it's
01:15:05
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such a terrible design just cuz no one
01:15:08
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looks up at Flags you could fly the
01:15:10
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American flag upside down from the White
01:15:12
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House and I bet and I would have noticed
01:15:13
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for a week no if you flipped the
01:15:15
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American flag you would have someone
01:15:16
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noticed immediately because flags flop
01:15:20
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down on the pole if it was really windy
01:15:22
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fair enough you'd notice but if it's
01:15:23
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just a flag drooping on a pole you could
01:15:26
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easily have it there for a week and I
01:15:27
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wouldn't know what orientation is I bet
01:15:30
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even under your opposition here
01:15:33
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of droopy flag I bet somebody would
01:15:35
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notice the American like the American
01:15:37
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flag in particular the most fanatically
01:15:40
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loved flag by its citizens like no way
01:15:44
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there's no way you get away with that
01:15:45
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within two seconds there'd be a vet
01:15:48
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complaining to a newspaper about that
01:15:50
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and it would be like national news if
01:15:51
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the White House accidentally had the
01:15:53
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flag upside down for a minute
01:15:55
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I don't think you could possibly get
01:15:56
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away with it you raise an interesting
01:15:57
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question though is there a country that
01:16:00
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loves its flag more than Americans you
01:16:02
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sort of threw that line out there like
01:16:03
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it was a given but is there a country
01:16:05
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maybe some obscure and we don't know
01:16:07
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that for some reason has some passion
01:16:10
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for its flag that exceeds even America
01:16:12
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if you know one let us know that is a
01:16:15
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good question I'd be curious about that
01:16:17
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but I do feel like the American flag and
01:16:20
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its relationship to its people is like a
01:16:22
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borderline unique one hmm right with the
01:16:26
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whole like America super patriotic thing
01:16:28
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yeah gigantic military the flag folding
01:16:32
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services like I don't know I feel like
01:16:33
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it might be the most loved flag I mean
01:16:37
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your national anthem is actually an
01:16:38
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anthem about your flag yeah exactly
01:16:41
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you don't talk about how much you love
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your country it's about God our Flags
01:16:44
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awesome yeah isn't it look at that
01:16:47
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star-spangled banner it's just amazing
01:16:51
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it wasn't enough to have a flag you then
01:16:54
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had to write a song about the flag what
01:16:55
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about the freedom you know like I
01:16:57
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whatever like but look at that flag I
01:16:59
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guess the opposite would be a country
01:17:01
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that loves US national anthem so much
01:17:02
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that it makes its flag machine music I
01:17:05
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have the message yeah exactly
01:17:07
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if only that existed I'll be curious to
01:17:11
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hear if people have any contenders for
01:17:13
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for more love flag but I think the
01:17:14
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American flag is gonna win that I can't
01:17:16
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even though I've said before I think
01:17:18
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it's kind of garish and ugly but you
01:17:19
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know it's still like it's a flag and it
01:17:22
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would never fly upside down without
01:17:23
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someone noticing I challenge you I admit
01:17:26
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it's more likely to be noticed also
01:17:27
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because of the design of the flag yeah I
01:17:29
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shouldn't have chosen the American flag
01:17:31
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in the White House that was too extreme
01:17:32
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an example but I can imagine many many
01:17:36
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flags being flown upside down in
01:17:38
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prominent places and people not noticing
01:17:40
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so I think jumping on this particular
01:17:42
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bandwagon was a was it in the breasts
01:17:44
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could you say yeah it was Nebraska
01:17:45
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anyway here's the thing I
01:17:46
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agree with you there's many flags that
01:17:48
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could fly upside-down and nobody would
01:17:50
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notice including all of those horrible
01:17:53
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state flags that are just a blue
01:17:55
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background with an ugly seal on it and
01:17:58
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that of course is what the Nebraska flag
01:18:01
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is and that's why nobody would notice
01:18:02
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like any of these flags that just have
01:18:04
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the seal in the blue background at ten
01:18:06
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paces you can't tell if it's right-side
01:18:08
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up anyway even if it's flying in a full
01:18:10
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breeze right because it just there's
01:18:13
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nothing to orient it it's just a circle
01:18:15
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with some too small garbage in the
01:18:17
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middle to actually see so I think this
01:18:19
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is hilarious and I think it's an
01:18:21
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indication that all of these flags
01:18:22
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should we redesign oh it's definitely
01:18:23
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hilarious but it doesn't mean that you
01:18:26
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need to change the flag how many stories
01:18:28
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are there are famous paintings being
01:18:29
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hung upside down in museums and stuff
01:18:31
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like this is fun stuff for the paintings
01:18:33
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that's always like Oh someone hung a
01:18:35
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Jackson Pollock upside down that's like
01:18:36
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well is there really a right-side up to
01:18:39
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that Jackson Pollock I'm gonna disagree
01:18:40
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with you I don't think that there is all
01:18:42
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right so I think for sure this is a case
01:18:46
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that the Nebraska flag should be totally
01:18:49
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redesigned I want to see this happen
01:18:51
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new Nebraska flag Nebraska get on it you
01:18:54
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heard it here not first but you heard it
01:18:56
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here yeah hello Internet breaking the
01:19:00
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news months later but yeah right we
01:19:04
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never covered timely things anyway this
01:19:06
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could have happened three years ago it
01:19:07
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would be the exact same thing right with
01:19:09
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a lukewarm not passionate plea to maybe
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change the flag from gray I don't think
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that was a passionate call your call for
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hot stoppers or Starbucks now that is
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passionate I mean but that's something I
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have to deal with every day it's a
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national tragedy on the scale of a
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single person is what that you know what
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happened though the minute these states
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start changing their Flags though bowls
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it up like New Zealand didn't either not
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change it or choose bad options or you
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can't rely on people and politicians to
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fix the problem you need a dictator to
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take over Nebraska and just install his
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or her own flag yeah you can't trust
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people that New Zealand election I still
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look back on last year at that it's just
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terrible election result I made I think
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when history looks back at 2016 that's
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going to be the thing that I remember it
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really is New Zealand yeah you have this
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opportunity to change the course of the
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yep we said now stood aside the path of
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periodic table and for that it's
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industrial chemist it also deals with
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including his time in Auschwitz it's a
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reading and beautifully written of
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course in fact this book is so dear to
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me that I own a special hardcopy edition
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that sits on my coveted shelf of
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favorite books here in my office
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actually before doing this little ad I
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for the first time in four or five years
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and you know what inside its first page
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I found something I'd been searching for
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a pristine one hundred trillion dollar
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note from Zimbabwe which a friend
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jokingly brought back for me when when
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he'd visited the country seriously I'd
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been looking for this note for years
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it's a little souvenir that means a lot
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to me and I'd been tearing my office
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apart looking for I thought I'd never
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see it again
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but at some point I'd obviously popped
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it in the periodic table for safekeeping
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such was my esteem for the book although
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I had forgotten I put it there anyway
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let's get back on message here because
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who does a really superb job bringing
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the story to life really doing justice
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to live his great writing both the humor
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which infuses the story of his life but
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lost and pretty much worthless
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Zimbabwean currency so quick plane crash
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corner okay here we go just a quickie
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that's the feeling of me tightening up
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now I'm not going to talk about Aeroflot
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I flew Aeroflot by the way on my trip to
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what's Aeroflot aeroflot's like the
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National Russian airliner and it wrongly
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has a reputation for crashing a lot okay
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I guess it's partly because of a crash
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or two but also I think it's got such a
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terrible name
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Aeroflot sounds like the name a plane
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would make when it like smacks into the
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runway with the wheel still up Oh No did
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you see that
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Aeroflot it's a terrible name I'm sorry
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Brady you almost made me spit out my
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water with the like oh they have a
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reputation for crashing that's
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deserved except for the crashes well you
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know every airline has a coupla crashes
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but anyway now what are you gonna do so
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when I was booked on them I was a little
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bit apprehensive because obviously I
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have no reason to believe I'm going to
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die in a plane crash but I do now see
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the irony that if it does happen what
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everyone's going to think because I talk
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about plane crashes so much in public it
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feels like something the universe wants
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to happen the more you talk about it
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that's that's how it feels it's not
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ritchie valens in La Bamba he's always
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dreaming he's gonna die in a plane
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crashing that he dies in one at the end
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of the film but yeah but anyway so when
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I was booked on Aeroflot I thought here
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we go I'm tempting fate but I thought
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the airline was fine and the air I think
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they were all women the air hosts
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hostesses stewards I don't know what I'm
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supposed to call them and not get in
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trouble he'll never know either
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my mom was a flight attendant but I even
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I've always felt a little bit uncertain
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like what is the heart I'm supposed to
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use that's a good word fly attendant the
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Aeroflot flight attendants we're the
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coolest uniforms because they look like
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they're from the 70s they've still got
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like sickles and stuff all over them
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they wear these white gloves like
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objectivity white gloves they look
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totally awesome Evan said to one of them
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can I just take a picture of like the
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gloves in your uniform I won't show you
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or anything because it was a bit weird
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and it just came across weird but I took
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my picture anyway they were cool
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uniforms I just pulled up some pictures
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and yes they're cool-looking uniforms
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they do look like they're straight from
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the 70s they do have the hammer and
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sickle on them yeah I hit just like
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awesome I don't understand how it
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threaded this needle in history of like
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hammer and sickle it should be like the
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swastika but instead it's like nah it
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made it through some sort of threshold
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and somehow is just kind of cool even
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though it was sort of during a horrible
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time if like if I sit down and using
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like oh my serious self would be like oh
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yes like a horrible symbol horrible time
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how many Russians died World War two all
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of them right that's how many is just
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like horrible but like I don't know the
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hammer and sickle it's just a cool
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symbol yeah you're uh it's got this kind
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of retro cool that it's somehow escaped
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the stigma of what was done Android yeah
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just don't know how that happened I'm
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aware in London seeing like t-shirts
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that are sometimes just like the red
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hammer and sickle and it's like this
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doesn't seem love I was thinking about
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it like I sure that it should exist but
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still some part of my brain is like yeah
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retro cool like the Cold War wasn't that
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a great time like no it wasn't it was a
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terrible time but you know like I didn't
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live through it whatever those dictators
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they've always got the best graphic
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design teams that's for sure yeah so
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continuing my little quick plane crash
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corner and sortie I just thought I'd let
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you know that I watched the film Sulley
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on my flight to San Francisco I thought
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it was quite extreme it doesn't bother
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me watching plane crash things on a
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plane so I watched the film Sulley on
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the plane which was really cool and
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maybe we should talk about that film one
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day I don't know but anyway just to let
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you know I've watched it because a lot
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of people said we should watch sadly
01:27:26
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because it's you know it's a film about
01:27:28
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a plane crash of course right so there
01:27:30
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you go Eldo not crash a forced water
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landing right as he likes to point out
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is the difference not a difference well
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I don't know if you're on the plane it's
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a massive difference anyway the last
01:27:41
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thing I want to talk about is Harrison
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Ford was involved in another aviation
01:27:46
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incident I don't know if you saw this
01:27:48
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because it happened a little while ago
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now he's a private pilot right he
01:27:51
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actually crash-landed on a golf course a
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little while ago yeah we discussed that
01:27:54
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on the show previously I think yeah his
01:27:57
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latest incident is apparently he was
01:28:00
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coming in to land at an airport and he
01:28:04
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was given clearance for the runway Lu
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and it seems like investigations are
01:28:09
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continuing etc etc but it seems like
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instead of landing on the runway he
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landed on an adjacent or parallel
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taxiway and in the course of landing he
01:28:19
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came in and landed over the top of a
01:28:22
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passenger airliner that I believe was
01:28:24
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sitting on the ground they had 110
01:28:26
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people on it so the story's been bigd
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uppers you're Harrison Ford near miss
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with a passenger airline 110 people etc
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etc now I don't know how much of a close
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call it was if the airliner was on the
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ground I don't think he was like on the
01:28:42
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brink of you know wiping out 110 people
01:28:44
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in one fell swoop it was probably more
01:28:46
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danger to himself than anything but
01:28:48
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let's put all of that aside for a minute
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this is what I want to put to you gray
01:28:53
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Harrison Ford is like this untouchable
01:28:55
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legend isn't he he's han Solo
01:28:58
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he's Indiana Jones he's in Blade Runner
01:29:01
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he's been Jack Ryan and it seems like
01:29:04
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you know his legacy is safe mm-hmm and
01:29:06
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even though he's made a few dud films in
01:29:08
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more recent times of Oh movie stars he
01:29:11
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has the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free
01:29:13
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card and leave pass because he's done
01:29:16
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those things before and we love Him
01:29:18
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if Harrison Ford collided with a
01:29:21
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passenger airliner and took it down and
01:29:25
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110 people died because of his error the
01:29:28
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74 year old man flying a small plane
01:29:31
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would that be his new legacy would that
01:29:35
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undo all the other stuff I think for
01:29:37
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some people it would yeah I don't know I
01:29:40
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would imagine for most people that would
01:29:41
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become an interesting trivia fact you
01:29:44
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don't think that would become the
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dominant fact let's say that that
01:29:46
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happened and then we fast-forward 20
01:29:48
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years and two people are sitting
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together and they're watching one of his
01:29:51
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great movies Kingdom of the Crystal
01:29:53
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Skull and one leans over to the other
01:29:56
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and says like oh hey did you know he you
01:30:00
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think that was bad you should see what
01:30:01
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he did - yeah exactly and which of these
01:30:04
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things was worse it's hard to judge
01:30:05
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right and he could have like an
01:30:06
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interesting conversation about that I
01:30:08
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agree if he had a single crash mm-hmm
01:30:10
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and that was how he met his demise but
01:30:13
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if he took out a hundred and ten people
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on a passenger plane like over LA I
01:30:16
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still think that would be like
01:30:18
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interesting trivia fact like in
01:30:20
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accidents okay especially as you go
01:30:22
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farther and farther forward into the
01:30:24
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future you know I think with any person
01:30:27
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of note the further you go in the future
01:30:29
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they either become forgotten and then
01:30:32
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they can finally leave that waiting room
01:30:33
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in the afterlife or yeah everything they
01:30:37
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have ever done gets compressed down into
01:30:40
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one or two things that's the timeline of
01:30:44
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history here if he's remembered in the
01:30:46
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future if anybody's still watching star
01:30:47
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wars a thousand years from now which
01:30:49
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they certainly will be because Disney
01:30:51
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will never let the franchise go yeah I
01:30:53
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think like that's how he'll be
01:30:54
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remembered as the Star Wars guy it'll
01:30:56
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just be like an interesting fact I think
01:30:58
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perhaps the more interesting question is
01:31:01
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how horrible of an atrocity would he
01:31:04
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have to commit before that would be the
01:31:07
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thing that people primarily remember him
01:31:08
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for 300 years from now exactly so I
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thought maybe taking out a hundred and
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ten people in a plane might reach the
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threshold you say no I mean clearly the
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only atrocity he could perform that
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would undo it must be some kind of major
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serial killing maybe because even if he
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shot three or four people I don't think
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that would do it like if he went crazy
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with a gun in a shopping mall and like
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shot of a bunch of people I don't I
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think that's akin to the plane crash
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isn't it yeah I agree I'm thinking it
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would need to be some kind of nuclear
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terrorism that's what would need to
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happen is that Harrison Ford
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destroys LA with a nuclear bomb I think
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then that would be like this is the
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primary thing that he was remembered for
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and people a thousand years from now
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would get the story all wrong as it
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always goes and he would be some like
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actor who was spurned right and didn't
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get what he wanted and so destroyed the
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whole of the entertainment industry
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that's what would happen hundred years
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like that's how people would remember
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the story I think this could be an
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interesting new metric for how
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successful your movie career has been
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how bad an atrocity do you now have to
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perform to undo that work there's like
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there's some kind of sliding scale here
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isn't it yeah at some end right it's
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like this is the thing you'll be
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remembered for where is the dividing
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line where it goes from interesting fact
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about you that might not color the movie
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watching experience to the primary faith
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to remember for let the kid who played
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Anakin Skywalker I mean he's only gonna
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like commit a shoplifting offence and
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he's done it
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yeah but like Harrison Ford has to set
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off a nuclear weapon yeah I think that's
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where I'm putting it yeah
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nuclear terrorism the other question
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here is should a 74 year old man be
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allowed to pilot a plane over a major
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city when you start telling me this
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story that's my first thought about it
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is is like okay once we all have
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accidents I guess you know twice I'm
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getting a little suspicious there's a
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third one Harrison Ford I think someone
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needs to take away your license you
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can't take away hand side lies license
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to fly I think you can right if I was in
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charge of things you know if he was in
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three car accidents I'd take away his
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license to drive way too many people who
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shouldn't be driving driving but you
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just kind of let them because it's a
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necessity of life in America but you
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know flying around in your hobby is
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airplane this is not a necessity and if
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your 74 has anyone done like the vision
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chart test for him recently on this kind
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of thing or did he get his pilot's
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license 30 years ago and you just keep
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I just need to watch that scene in the
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new Star Wars film of him running down
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that corridor with the Millennium Falcon
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and then they just take his license of
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him yeah fella huh sorry man yeah I
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don't think you should be flying I do
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have to say though even if he did
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destroy all of LA with a nuclear bomb I
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still think I could watch Star Wars and
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be like I like this movie
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nothing no no you have to separate the
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art from the artist you don't have to
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like both of them
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no we mentioned it several episodes ago
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about West world by yet far and away the
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most requested thing we have ever had
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for us to watch as my memory serves you
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watched what was it two episodes three
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episodes and gave up on the show no I
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think I wish more I think I watched
01:34:22
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either three or four I'm not sure but
01:34:25
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most of the way towards 40% of the
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season yeah so you didn't make it all
01:34:29
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the way through no I did recently decide
01:34:32
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to give it a try because of this there's
01:34:35
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like a delicate balance right when
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people are recommending you things and I
01:34:38
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sometimes have this feeling of when a
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thing gets recommended tremendously like
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it can pass a point where I feel like I
01:34:45
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don't want to watch that thing you want
01:34:46
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to be a little bit rebellious oh I don't
01:34:47
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want to be a shape yeah exactly
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everybody in the world's telling me to
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watch West world maybe I don't wanna
01:34:51
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it's not gonna be on the top of my queue
01:34:54
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I'm gonna watch something else because
01:34:56
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I'm my own man yeah I can do whatever I
01:34:57
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want like it sit here and watch some
01:34:59
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terrible TV show but eventually I did
01:35:01
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give in because I had some near misses
01:35:03
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with some spoilers for the show and I
01:35:05
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decided you know what okay
01:35:06
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I'm going to try to save myself future
01:35:08
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grief I'm going to sit down I'm going to
01:35:09
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give it a shot and see how I like it so
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I I did watch West world and my feeling
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is if you watch some of the episodes I
01:35:19
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am NOT going to make you watch the rest
01:35:21
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of the series because I think if someone
01:35:24
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sits down and watches West world if
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you're not into it after the first two
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episodes or you find yourself kind of
01:35:29
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drifting you don't need to watch the
01:35:31
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rest of the season it's not going to be
01:35:34
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but I watched it and everybody was right
01:35:37
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I totally loved this show it just hit
01:35:42
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like every tick box of stuff for me that
01:35:45
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I really liked yeah and so I did make my
01:35:47
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way through the whole series I really
01:35:49
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enjoyed it I would highly recommend that
01:35:52
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everybody give the first two episodes a
01:35:54
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shot but I am NOT going to make you sit
01:35:57
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through the rest of the season Brady I
01:35:58
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think you got far enough I've got a fly
01:36:00
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back to England in a few days and I've
01:36:02
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got nothing to do on the plane so I've
01:36:04
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only got a few episodes left to watch
01:36:05
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ever know maybe I'll barrel through and
01:36:07
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what ship should I watch the rest of it
01:36:09
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and we'll do a proper review well I mean
01:36:11
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I guess that's up to you Brady
01:36:12
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I have thought sauna and learn if you've
01:36:14
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got thoughts I want to hear them and I
01:36:16
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know there's certainly that the people
01:36:17
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listening would like to hear them and I
01:36:19
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might not do it justice talking to you
01:36:21
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about it if I haven't actually seen it
01:36:23
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although I won't ask you as many good
01:36:25
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questions or have different opinions so
01:36:27
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well even though you've tipped your hand
01:36:29
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a little bit by saying you liked it
01:36:31
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isn't that what you like Brady don't you
01:36:32
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like it yeah have things right up for
01:36:35
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I'll finish it oh look at that look at
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that okay all right
01:36:38
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it wasn't gonna make you do it I guess
01:36:40
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what we've discovered is we're going to
01:36:41
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be assigning this for homework is that
01:36:42
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what's happening at this moment at his
01:36:43
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homework there we go
01:36:45
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non-compulsory as always non-compulsory
01:36:47
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homework I mean how could we set
01:36:49
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compulsory homework I podcast listeners
01:36:51
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don't have to do anything we say but I
01:36:52
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think we could set compulsory homework
01:36:53
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what's the nearest thing we've ever done
01:36:55
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to setting compulsory homework
01:36:57
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I mean entire Star Wars episodes are
01:36:59
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pretty pointless if you haven't watched
01:37:00
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the film yeah people do listen to them
01:37:02
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you haven't without having watch the
01:37:03
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movies though which I don't I don't
01:37:05
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understand which I think like compulsory
01:37:07
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we'd have to assign a thing that if
01:37:10
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you're watching it it would reveal a
01:37:12
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password to you that you could use to
01:37:14
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access an episode that you couldn't
01:37:15
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listen to otherwise maybe that's what it
01:37:17
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would be how about we do this so if I'm
01:37:19
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gonna sit and watch the rest of wess
01:37:21
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world you've already seen it and you're
01:37:23
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obviously not doing much else at the
01:37:24
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moment because I haven't seen new videos
01:37:26
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right why don't you try and see if you
01:37:28
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can fit in Sully before we do the next
01:37:29
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episode and we'll have a special plane
01:37:32
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crash call on a special edition movie
01:37:33
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review as well okay all right just a
01:37:36
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short review of Sully so sort of the
01:37:37
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double homework episode that is that
01:37:39
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what's going on here it was nowhere near
01:37:41
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as requested as Westworld but a lot of
01:37:42
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people did ask us to talk about
01:37:44
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something we'll have a brief talk about
01:37:47
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and a slightly longer talk about west
01:37:49
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well in the next episode okay there you
01:37:51
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go people we were going to talk about it
01:37:53
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but now you're gonna wait that's what's
01:37:55
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happening sorry you've probably got all
01:37:57
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these notes and things you were about to
01:37:58
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say about West world and I just feel
01:38:00
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like I'd be like I'd feel unequipped to
01:38:02
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to do it justice it's very honorable of
01:38:04
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you Brady and yeah I'm certainly happy
01:38:07
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to pretend that I am really prepared