Hello Internet

00:00:00 ◼   ► do you remember how to do this according

00:00:03 ◼   ► to the way we're setting up no I don't

00:00:06 ◼   ► remember how to do this do you know what

00:00:08 ◼   ► you setting up took a while and you

00:00:10 ◼   ► stuffed up a few things and you had to

00:00:11 ◼   ► reboot and all that sort of stuff

00:00:13 ◼   ► but in the scheme of things that was

00:00:15 ◼   ► still pretty smooth for you Thank You

00:00:16 ◼   ► Brady I'll take that as a compliment I

00:00:18 ◼   ► guess you're not very good at it

00:00:20 ◼   ► like I think I'm better at it which is

00:00:22 ◼   ► amazing really you are like a

00:00:23 ◼   ► professional with this you're all over

00:00:25 ◼   ► the world you're setting up interviews

00:00:27 ◼   ► with people you're always doing audio

00:00:29 ◼   ► recording I am a guy who shows up

00:00:32 ◼   ► occasionally to record podcasts so it's

00:00:35 ◼   ► always a bit of a like wait what what

00:00:36 ◼   ► was i doing how did this get set up you

00:00:39 ◼   ► can't expect me after what two years two

00:00:42 ◼   ► and a half years how long have we been

00:00:43 ◼   ► doing this I don't know to be a

00:00:45 ◼   ► professional at it I think that's an

00:00:47 ◼   ► unrealistic expectation reading I'll

00:00:49 ◼   ► tell you a story I have to be careful

00:00:50 ◼   ► telling it's because I don't want to

00:00:52 ◼   ► give certain things away but I remember

00:00:55 ◼   ► one time I made this video for periodic

00:00:57 ◼   ► videos which was of a really interesting

00:00:59 ◼   ► chemical reaction really fiery and

00:01:01 ◼   ► explosive was a really cool thing and I

00:01:03 ◼   ► made the video and I put it on YouTube

00:01:05 ◼   ► good for me and then someone who I would

00:01:09 ◼   ► describe as kind of a colleague but also

00:01:12 ◼   ► for various reasons bit of a rival

00:01:14 ◼   ► decided they were going to film the same

00:01:17 ◼   ► reaction mm-hm

00:01:18 ◼   ► and what they did was because they were

00:01:20 ◼   ► probably just a bit less experienced and

00:01:22 ◼   ► for whatever reason I get this email one

00:01:24 ◼   ► day saying dear Brady I recorded that

00:01:26 ◼   ► reaction that you did a few weeks ago

00:01:28 ◼   ► but unfortunately in like the heat of

00:01:31 ◼   ► the moment I forgot to press the record

00:01:33 ◼   ► button uh-huh and this whole thing had

00:01:36 ◼   ► gone off for them they'd been set up for

00:01:37 ◼   ► them had taken all day and they hadn't

00:01:39 ◼   ► filmed it and basically he just had to

00:01:41 ◼   ► come to me like tail between his legs

00:01:43 ◼   ► and said to me could I please just have

00:01:44 ◼   ► your footage of when you did it oh god

00:01:48 ◼   ► okay I've been there you know like it's

00:01:51 ◼   ► a very easy thing to do when you're new

00:01:52 ◼   ► to filming you've got a million things

00:01:54 ◼   ► to think about to actually forget to

00:01:56 ◼   ► press record I've done interviews before

00:01:58 ◼   ► when I was like a newbie at the BBC even

00:02:01 ◼   ► so I just felt the pain and I said man

00:02:03 ◼   ► not a problem

00:02:04 ◼   ► and I just sent it straight to him as

00:02:06 ◼   ► well I get it how he must have felt I

00:02:08 ◼   ► just totally had sympathy what a nice

00:02:10 ◼   ► guy giving footage to a quasi rival

00:02:13 ◼   ► yeah it's complicated to call him a

00:02:15 ◼   ► rival and I can't really go into it but

00:02:17 ◼   ► it's not someone anyone knows like the

00:02:20 ◼   ► games who are listening thinking or

00:02:21 ◼   ► wonder if it's you know what are the

00:02:23 ◼   ► youtubes as we know it wasn't a youtuber

00:02:24 ◼   ► was nothing like that

00:02:25 ◼   ► it was no one anyone knows but it was a

00:02:27 ◼   ► funny story what's the worst thing that

00:02:29 ◼   ► you have forgotten to record you didn't

00:02:31 ◼   ► interview the Prime Minister or anything

00:02:33 ◼   ► and then forget to press record no when

00:02:35 ◼   ► I was very new to I remember I once went

00:02:37 ◼   ► to like an aquarium fish store and I

00:02:39 ◼   ► interviewed this woman for like 20

00:02:40 ◼   ► minutes and then he hadn't pressed

00:02:42 ◼   ► record and I didn't admit to her I

00:02:46 ◼   ► actually said I think that was good but

00:02:48 ◼   ► I think we could have done that better

00:02:49 ◼   ► let's do it again ha ha ha

00:02:52 ◼   ► do you sneaky dog you Brady I would

00:02:55 ◼   ► admit to an F oh maybe I wouldn't I can

00:02:57 ◼   ► imagine times when I wouldn't if it was

00:02:59 ◼   ► it too embarrassing but these days you

00:03:01 ◼   ► know as you get more confident in life

00:03:02 ◼   ► you also get more confident about

00:03:04 ◼   ► admitting your shortcomings so I

00:03:06 ◼   ► remember when I first became a newspaper

00:03:08 ◼   ► journalist in the newsroom and I was

00:03:11 ◼   ► like the new cadet and being given a job

00:03:13 ◼   ► an assignment was a big deal like

00:03:15 ◼   ► Bradley going you know ring the local

00:03:17 ◼   ► business council and find out their

00:03:18 ◼   ► response to this story and you know

00:03:19 ◼   ► given jobs to do mmm I would like wait

00:03:23 ◼   ► till there was no one around or go and

00:03:24 ◼   ► hide in another room to make phone calls

00:03:26 ◼   ► because I was so scared of people

00:03:27 ◼   ► listening to my phone calls and hearing

00:03:29 ◼   ► the interview people and I was so

00:03:31 ◼   ► nervous you know I was just a young new

00:03:33 ◼   ► journalist and I hated the idea of all

00:03:35 ◼   ► the experienced journalists hearing me

00:03:36 ◼   ► phone people up and doing that sort of

00:03:38 ◼   ► thing

00:03:39 ◼   ► I look back now and think that's really

00:03:40 ◼   ► sweet you were white in like an open

00:03:42 ◼   ► office situation and supposed to just

00:03:43 ◼   ► interview someone over the phone

00:03:45 ◼   ► newsrooms are normally quite open plan

00:03:47 ◼   ► things and you know all the journals

00:03:48 ◼   ► will sit around each other like when you

00:03:50 ◼   ► watch on TV it's quite like that there's

00:03:52 ◼   ► lots of noise and phone calls and stuff

00:03:53 ◼   ► going on and everyone can hear what

00:03:55 ◼   ► everyone else is doing to some extent I

00:03:57 ◼   ► was just you know the new green young

00:03:59 ◼   ► kid so I would like go into like a

00:04:01 ◼   ► conference room where there would be a

00:04:03 ◼   ► phone and make the phone calls or things

00:04:05 ◼   ► like that just because you know I didn't

00:04:06 ◼   ► want all the experienced journalists

00:04:08 ◼   ► hearing me ask lame questions or not be

00:04:10 ◼   ► able to handle myself you know like

00:04:12 ◼   ► anyone young and nervous he'll I don't

00:04:14 ◼   ► blame you for that at all I don't think

00:04:15 ◼   ► I could do that talk on the phone in a

00:04:17 ◼   ► big open space where other people isn't

00:04:19 ◼   ► but I'm in my own apartment if I make a

00:04:21 ◼   ► phone call I go into another room even

00:04:23 ◼   ► if just my wife is home it's just it's

00:04:24 ◼   ► weird having somebody else listen to

00:04:27 ◼   ► half a conversation doesn't matter if

00:04:29 ◼   ► I'm just talking to my family or

00:04:30 ◼   ► something it feels like there's a weird

00:04:31 ◼   ► pressure like I'm sorry I'm using the

00:04:33 ◼   ► telephone I have to go into a different

00:04:34 ◼   ► room and close the door I mean the

00:04:36 ◼   ► reality is you don't really hear other

00:04:37 ◼   ► people's phone calls because people talk

00:04:39 ◼   ► quietly into the phone and there's lots

00:04:42 ◼   ► going on like you'd have to really make

00:04:43 ◼   ► an effort to listen to other people's

00:04:45 ◼   ► phone calls or they would have to be

00:04:46 ◼   ► really loud and so you don't hear

00:04:48 ◼   ► everyone else's phone calls but when

00:04:50 ◼   ► you're a young paranoid new cadet

00:04:52 ◼   ► journalist you are scared everyone's

00:04:53 ◼   ► going to be listening to your phone call

00:04:54 ◼   ► and laughing at you sir

00:04:56 ◼   ► anyway it goes away you're a

00:04:58 ◼   ► professional now and you're sure you're

00:04:59 ◼   ► recording this podcast right yeah and

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00:07:10 ◼   ► I think Brady that freebooting has

00:07:14 ◼   ► really made it as an official official

00:07:18 ◼   ► word now whoa

00:07:19 ◼   ► it's not a dictionary is it a dictionary

00:07:21 ◼   ► smidgen arey right like they're just

00:07:23 ◼   ► descriptive like they'll catch up

00:07:24 ◼   ► eventually to the way that the word is

00:07:27 ◼   ► being used I just happen to have in a

00:07:29 ◼   ► bunch of cases come across recently

00:07:31 ◼   ► people using the word freebooting who

00:07:32 ◼   ► would have you know no idea about the

00:07:34 ◼   ► podcast like it spread very far but I

00:07:36 ◼   ► think the real in my mind cement er of

00:07:39 ◼   ► the legitimacy of this word is that on

00:07:42 ◼   ► the Wikipedia page for copyright

00:07:45 ◼   ► infringement there is a section which is

00:07:48 ◼   ► about the terminology like how does one

00:07:51 ◼   ► talk about copyright infringement

00:07:54 ◼   ► because as we discussed in that episode

00:07:56 ◼   ► so many years ago now the word theft not

00:08:00 ◼   ► appropriate because it's not actually a

00:08:02 ◼   ► description of what's happening you

00:08:03 ◼   ► can't really use that word it's too

00:08:05 ◼   ► emotive that's your position by the way

00:08:07 ◼   ► that's not my position now I'm

00:08:10 ◼   ► presenting it as the position Brady

00:08:12 ◼   ► that's obviously where I goes our

00:08:14 ◼   ► difference of opinions on that is what

00:08:15 ◼   ► started the whole free we start with I

00:08:18 ◼   ► think it's the only correct position is

00:08:21 ◼   ► that theft is obviously the wrong word

00:08:22 ◼   ► to use but yeah so on the Wikipedia page

00:08:24 ◼   ► they do run through this the idea of

00:08:27 ◼   ► using the word piracy versus the word

00:08:30 ◼   ► theft and then at the bottom there is

00:08:33 ◼   ► now an official section for freebooting

00:08:35 ◼   ► which I would say as the article on the

00:08:38 ◼   ► Wikipedia is arranged is presented as

00:08:41 ◼   ► the solution the correct way to talk

00:08:45 ◼   ► about copyright infringement and that is

00:08:47 ◼   ► freebooting I think it's fantastic and

00:08:49 ◼   ► you have even been properly credited as

00:08:53 ◼   ► the creator of freebooting

00:08:55 ◼   ► the Wikipedia I think this is the big

00:08:57 ◼   ► time Brady this is like the final step

00:08:58 ◼   ► in the journey of rebooting it's like a

00:09:00 ◼   ► real word now on the Wikipedia is this a

00:09:03 ◼   ► coincidence that you've brought this up

00:09:05 ◼   ► you realize there was naughtiness

00:09:06 ◼   ► yesterday about this I have no idea what

00:09:09 ◼   ► you're talking about you've been off

00:09:10 ◼   ► Twitter haven't you I haven't been on

00:09:11 ◼   ► the Internet in a long time just

00:09:13 ◼   ► yesterday it was brought to my attention

00:09:15 ◼   ► and it has since been corrected back to

00:09:17 ◼   ► what you're saying now mm-hmm but

00:09:19 ◼   ► yesterday afternoon that little section

00:09:23 ◼   ► on freebooting was actually a section on

00:09:25 ◼   ► view jacking and the title was view

00:09:28 ◼   ► jacking you were credited not me and

00:09:30 ◼   ► someone brought this to my attention on

00:09:32 ◼   ► that exact Wikipedia page and I shared

00:09:34 ◼   ► it on twitter i said very funny guys

00:09:36 ◼   ► like look what everyone's done and like

00:09:38 ◼   ► the official word was view jacking and

00:09:40 ◼   ► then obviously when people saw this

00:09:42 ◼   ► someone has gone back in and changed

00:09:43 ◼   ► effective rebooting so just to show you

00:09:46 ◼   ► how unofficial something is when it's on

00:09:48 ◼   ► wikipedia as of yesterday it was view

00:09:50 ◼   ► jacking that's the official word but we

00:09:53 ◼   ► all know freebooting is the real word I

00:09:55 ◼   ► mean look at this I just went through

00:09:56 ◼   ► the history and yes as of a couple days

00:09:58 ◼   ► ago the term view jacking his the news

00:10:00 ◼   ► disconnect the unauthorized hosting of

00:10:03 ◼   ► online really a particular videos this

00:10:04 ◼   ► term was quite by CGP Greg took greater

00:10:08 ◼   ► on the audio podcast hello Internet so I

00:10:11 ◼   ► think we're not quite at the end of this

00:10:13 ◼   ► I feel a bit like the people hanging on

00:10:15 ◼   ► to view jacking a kind of the flag flag

00:10:18 ◼   ► of copyright infringement people but

00:10:20 ◼   ► look I can't take responsibility for any

00:10:22 ◼   ► credit jacking that occurs when people

00:10:24 ◼   ► rewrite things on the Wikipedia out of

00:10:27 ◼   ► my hands I like that this shows why for

00:10:31 ◼   ► all of your sniffing s about old

00:10:33 ◼   ► institutions like dictionaries and stuff

00:10:35 ◼   ► I would not consider it to be a success

00:10:38 ◼   ► until a dictionary takes it up like the

00:10:40 ◼   ► Oxford English Dictionary or something

00:10:42 ◼   ► like that because until they do it any

00:10:44 ◼   ► Tom Dick or Harry can go on Wikipedia

00:10:46 ◼   ► and change interview jacking it has to

00:10:49 ◼   ► be official you need a dictionary and

00:10:50 ◼   ► that's what you need that's what I need

00:10:52 ◼   ► yeah like I accept that it's sort of had

00:10:55 ◼   ► a little moment in the Sun and it has

00:10:56 ◼   ► kind of infiltrated our language a

00:10:58 ◼   ► little bit in fact I was asked to do a

00:11:00 ◼   ► talk about freebooting at VidCon oh yeah

00:11:03 ◼   ► which I declined actually I didn't want

00:11:05 ◼   ► to step on that landmine at the moment

00:11:07 ◼   ► and also I didn't really feel that

00:11:08 ◼   ► much of an expert like just because I

00:11:10 ◼   ► couldn't the word I didn't feel like I

00:11:12 ◼   ► could legitimately sit on a panel and

00:11:13 ◼   ► talk about the legalities of copyright

00:11:16 ◼   ► infringement so I'm just like you came

00:11:18 ◼   ► up with a word I don't know Brady it

00:11:20 ◼   ► feels like you need to be on a panel at

00:11:22 ◼   ► VidCon about freebooting feels like the

00:11:24 ◼   ► world is not right if you're just

00:11:25 ◼   ► sitting in the audience on that oh by

00:11:28 ◼   ► the way ten-second dad I will be at

00:11:30 ◼   ► VidCon Europe in Amsterdam so if

00:11:33 ◼   ► anyone's in that part of the world and

00:11:35 ◼   ► wants to come along and have their

00:11:38 ◼   ► record signed come along I'll be there

00:11:41 ◼   ► you're not doing the freebooting panel

00:11:43 ◼   ► but are you doing any official panels

00:11:44 ◼   ► while you're there in the official talks

00:11:45 ◼   ► yeah I am I'm doing an educational type

00:11:48 ◼   ► panel I can't remember who's on the

00:11:49 ◼   ► panel's they're just educational

00:11:51 ◼   ► youtubers I know Hank green is on it and

00:11:53 ◼   ► like it's got some subtitle catchphrase

00:11:56 ◼   ► like can you fit the universe inside a

00:11:58 ◼   ► YouTube video or something that I had

00:12:00 ◼   ► nothing to do with that name and I'm not

00:12:01 ◼   ► entirely sure what I'm supposed to talk

00:12:03 ◼   ► about but it sounds like a very Vsauce

00:12:05 ◼   ► name yeah Hank's moderating the panel

00:12:07 ◼   ► now and Hank knows what he's doing so

00:12:08 ◼   ► I'm sure to be good and I'm sure

00:12:10 ◼   ► there'll be a decent audience there

00:12:11 ◼   ► because Hank's there so that would make

00:12:14 ◼   ► me feel better I don't know man I think

00:12:15 ◼   ► we're gonna be a lot of Halloween had

00:12:17 ◼   ► fans at a VidCon event so I think you're

00:12:20 ◼   ► going to be a pretty big drive the panel

00:12:21 ◼   ► to breeding no I don't think that but if

00:12:23 ◼   ► they're already Tim's there come and say

00:12:25 ◼   ► hello if you happen to be at VidCon

00:12:26 ◼   ► people are going to be screaming the

00:12:28 ◼   ► audience throwing their underwear

00:12:29 ◼   ► onstage that's what's going to happen

00:12:31 ◼   ► breeding so there we go

00:12:33 ◼   ► so freebooting credit jacking all sorts

00:12:35 ◼   ► of stuff the saga rolls on stay out of

00:12:38 ◼   ► the Wikipedia editing you naughty teams

00:12:40 ◼   ► yeah if there's one thing we know it's

00:12:42 ◼   ► vandalizing the Wikipedia never

00:12:45 ◼   ► hilarious never entertaining I'm opposed

00:12:48 ◼   ► to it great but I'm not so I'm opposed

00:12:50 ◼   ► to although it always makes me laugh

00:12:53 ◼   ► yeah that's right it is course it makes

00:12:55 ◼   ► you laugh right because it's the spirit

00:12:57 ◼   ► of the Internet right it's like the

00:12:58 ◼   ► trickster god here because we have this

00:13:01 ◼   ► thing which is like sort of the end-all

00:13:04 ◼   ► be-all authoritative source on how

00:13:06 ◼   ► everything is in a neutral view in the

00:13:07 ◼   ► world and also can constantly be milked

00:13:10 ◼   ► for the lulz by random trolls like it's

00:13:13 ◼   ► fantastic it is tiring though it's

00:13:15 ◼   ► tiring millions of people all trying to

00:13:18 ◼   ► be funny at the same time it's like when

00:13:20 ◼   ► you put a question on Twitter like and

00:13:22 ◼   ► someone help me what's the national

00:13:23 ◼   ► anthem of something and everyone wants

00:13:25 ◼   ► to reply with a joke and they all think

00:13:27 ◼   ► they're the one person being funny but

00:13:29 ◼   ► when you're the recipient of their and

00:13:30 ◼   ► you've got all these people trying to be

00:13:32 ◼   ► funny it's like for God's sake I just

00:13:34 ◼   ► need this answer like enough for the

00:13:36 ◼   ► jokes

00:13:37 ◼   ► if you catches you in the right mood it

00:13:38 ◼   ► is funny and I'm sometimes that guy I'm

00:13:41 ◼   ► the guy who's always trying to be funny

00:13:42 ◼   ► as well mm-hmm but when you're on the

00:13:44 ◼   ► other end of it I feel like this is just

00:13:46 ◼   ► the fundamental spirit of the Internet

00:13:48 ◼   ► yeah if you're coming to the internet

00:13:49 ◼   ► and you're being really serious about

00:13:51 ◼   ► everything you're gonna have a bad time

00:13:52 ◼   ► yeah I will never not love the kind of

00:13:56 ◼   ► hilarity of internet commenters that

00:13:59 ◼   ► results as this competition to be the

00:14:02 ◼   ► funny person or the person who's like

00:14:04 ◼   ► trying to sneak a joke into an otherwise

00:14:07 ◼   ► serious Wikipedia article or all kinds

00:14:09 ◼   ► of mischief I really think that's just

00:14:11 ◼   ► fundamentally part of the Internet and

00:14:12 ◼   ► will never be rid of it and you can't be

00:14:15 ◼   ► too serious about it and whoever

00:14:16 ◼   ► tampered with Jeff do John's Wikipedia

00:14:19 ◼   ► article and included the line that he

00:14:21 ◼   ► once signed an autograph a renowned

00:14:22 ◼   ► journalist Brady Haran it's bit of a

00:14:24 ◼   ► hero it's still one of my favorites okay

00:14:28 ◼   ► like this was the best Wikipedia

00:14:31 ◼   ► battlestations ever hasn't been changed

00:14:34 ◼   ► yet because the only place that's been

00:14:35 ◼   ► mentioned is on a vinyl episode now I've

00:14:37 ◼   ► mentioned it here on the internet

00:14:38 ◼   ► version it's got I've shot myself in the

00:14:41 ◼   ► foot there although why remove it

00:14:43 ◼   ► because it is true yeah I know I know

00:14:45 ◼   ► like people like serious Wikipedia

00:14:48 ◼   ► editors that deserves to remain there it

00:14:51 ◼   ► is true and it's hilarious and if you're

00:14:53 ◼   ► upset about it add a citation cuz it's

00:14:55 ◼   ► not cited but there is an episode of

00:14:57 ◼   ► hello Internet where I tell the story

00:14:59 ◼   ► about him signing an autograph for me

00:15:01 ◼   ► so can even be cited haha god bless you

00:15:08 ◼   ► and yeah you're the best thing listening

00:15:11 ◼   ► it is for me to bring people up to speed

00:15:15 ◼   ► I have been zooming back and forward a

00:15:17 ◼   ► little bit lately in planes and my body

00:15:19 ◼   ► clocks all over the place I'm currently

00:15:21 ◼   ► in spiritual home Berkeley and it's 6:00

00:15:24 ◼   ► in the morning and I've woken up

00:15:26 ◼   ► specially to do this so I'm a little bit

00:15:28 ◼   ► tired and a bit out of it and I have

00:15:30 ◼   ► just come from Russia before that I

00:15:33 ◼   ► don't know if I'm coming or going so

00:15:35 ◼   ► don't know how well the brain will work

00:15:36 ◼   ► but we'll get there this is so confusing

00:15:39 ◼   ► too because I knew you were doing some

00:15:40 ◼   ► traveling but I vaguely thought oh

00:15:42 ◼   ► you're going to America and then I get

00:15:44 ◼   ► messages from you From Russia With Love

00:15:46 ◼   ► and then suddenly you're somewhere else

00:15:48 ◼   ► and then you're back in the UK and then

00:15:50 ◼   ► you're flying over to San Francisco I

00:15:52 ◼   ► feel like I can't keep track of you at

00:15:54 ◼   ► all Brady I don't know what you're up to

00:15:55 ◼   ► I don't have any idea what you're doing

00:15:57 ◼   ► why were you in Russia I went through a

00:15:59 ◼   ► really good period of three months of

00:16:01 ◼   ► not even leaving the UK and it was so

00:16:03 ◼   ► lovely Wow you know I still had to go to

00:16:06 ◼   ► London and Nottingham a lot but they

00:16:07 ◼   ► just let overnight trips but it was

00:16:09 ◼   ► three months of loveliness with the

00:16:11 ◼   ► doggies and being able to spend time

00:16:13 ◼   ► with my wife and all the nice things but

00:16:16 ◼   ► now I'm entering a period of two or

00:16:17 ◼   ► three months of mad travel all over the

00:16:20 ◼   ► place three months at home that must be

00:16:22 ◼   ► some kind of record for you it was

00:16:23 ◼   ► really nice yeah so anyway I'm in

00:16:26 ◼   ► America now you know doing the usual

00:16:28 ◼   ► numberphile thing for a week actually

00:16:30 ◼   ► just yesterday I interviewed the person

00:16:33 ◼   ► who this is debatable

00:16:36 ◼   ► okay but I would say and a lot of other

00:16:38 ◼   ► people say is currently the smartest

00:16:42 ◼   ► best mathematician in the world

00:16:44 ◼   ► he's like the top gun' he's on top of

00:16:47 ◼   ► everything he's the superstar of math at

00:16:50 ◼   ► the moment I would say he's the greatest

00:16:51 ◼   ► living mathematician there are

00:16:53 ◼   ► mathematicians can live who may be in

00:16:55 ◼   ► their peak were greater and are now you

00:16:57 ◼   ► know coming towards the end of their

00:16:59 ◼   ► days but in terms of current form

00:17:01 ◼   ► current stuff going on I think he's the

00:17:05 ◼   ► man and I got to meet him yesterday and

00:17:07 ◼   ► interview him at MSR

00:17:08 ◼   ► can you see who it is man I'm building

00:17:11 ◼   ► up to it because there's an extra reason

00:17:13 ◼   ► of a bit excited about it

00:17:14 ◼   ► his name is Thierry tau that's a really

00:17:18 ◼   ► good name it is a good name he's across

00:17:20 ◼   ► all sorts of things he's a real

00:17:21 ◼   ► all-rounder of mathematics which is

00:17:23 ◼   ► pretty important these days because

00:17:24 ◼   ► we've gotten to a point in mathematics

00:17:26 ◼   ► now where most of the proofs rely on

00:17:28 ◼   ► pulling from different parts of

00:17:30 ◼   ► mathematics and not just specializing in

00:17:31 ◼   ► one subject and the reason I'm

00:17:34 ◼   ► particularly excited about him is he was

00:17:37 ◼   ► born in Raqqa

00:17:40 ◼   ► Adelaide yes at least pretty much my age

00:17:44 ◼   ► as well he's only like one year older oh

00:17:47 ◼   ► really yeah but you couldn't really call

00:17:50 ◼   ► his contemporaries because he was the

00:17:52 ◼   ► stereotypical super genius and I think

00:17:54 ◼   ► like you know when he was 10 years old

00:17:56 ◼   ► he was at university and all that sort

00:17:58 ◼   ► of stuff right he was like super super

00:17:59 ◼   ► prodigy and he's one of those prodigies

00:18:02 ◼   ► that has gone on to genuine greatness as

00:18:04 ◼   ► well so anyway just for the record

00:18:06 ◼   ► because I know it'll amuse you when we

00:18:09 ◼   ► were setting up and about to start we

00:18:10 ◼   ► were talking a bit about Adelaide and

00:18:12 ◼   ► where he was from and how often he goes

00:18:13 ◼   ► back and somehow I fell down the rabbit

00:18:16 ◼   ► hole and told him the story about how

00:18:17 ◼   ► much I love the black stump and I wanted

00:18:20 ◼   ► to tell black stump stories with him

00:18:21 ◼   ► uh-huh

00:18:22 ◼   ► and I have to say he wasn't feeling it

00:18:24 ◼   ► in my head you are wanting to discuss

00:18:27 ◼   ► the black stump with him while wearing

00:18:29 ◼   ► your black stumpy shirt like let me tell

00:18:31 ◼   ► you about this amazing building he

00:18:33 ◼   ► didn't even remember the black stump but

00:18:35 ◼   ► I was like you know before they built

00:18:36 ◼   ► the state bank building it was the

00:18:38 ◼   ► biggest building in Adelaide and he was

00:18:39 ◼   ► like yeah I remember the state bank

00:18:40 ◼   ► building because it's the biggest

00:18:41 ◼   ► building I'm like no before that it was

00:18:44 ◼   ► the black stop you know say they judge

00:18:45 ◼   ► me man he should have had the same

00:18:47 ◼   ► feelings but he wasn't on board everyone

00:18:49 ◼   ► should have the same feelings that you

00:18:51 ◼   ► do brady that's the way it should be

00:18:52 ◼   ► right I know cuz then I sort of boxed

00:18:55 ◼   ► myself into a corner cuz when he'd

00:18:56 ◼   ► wasn't into the black stamp I felt like

00:18:58 ◼   ► ah because I was then gonna tell him the

00:19:00 ◼   ► funny story about how now I talk about

00:19:02 ◼   ► it all the time and I've made t-shirts

00:19:03 ◼   ► and we would laugh about how right right

00:19:05 ◼   ► but because he wasn't into the black

00:19:06 ◼   ► stamp I was kind of like oh no where do

00:19:07 ◼   ► I take this conversation now I've just

00:19:09 ◼   ► started talking about this building now

00:19:11 ◼   ► he doesn't remember it

00:19:12 ◼   ► I've got no anecdote to tell these

00:19:14 ◼   ► conversational dead ends are always

00:19:16 ◼   ► awful right when you run down like this

00:19:18 ◼   ► false paths with someone else and you

00:19:19 ◼   ► think like we're gonna have a great

00:19:21 ◼   ► bonding conversation like oh no right

00:19:23 ◼   ► now this isn't working at all like abort

00:19:24 ◼   ► abort but it's too late and now you're

00:19:26 ◼   ► trying to like justify the amazingness

00:19:28 ◼   ► of this building that's exactly what

00:19:30 ◼   ► happened and it just got worse and worse

00:19:32 ◼   ► but I have to say he was like a really

00:19:35 ◼   ► really excellent man he was really

00:19:37 ◼   ► generous with his time and polite and

00:19:39 ◼   ► friendly and considering how smart he is

00:19:42 ◼   ► and the mathematical plane he works on

00:19:44 ◼   ► he was a really accessible normal guy

00:19:46 ◼   ► and he also was quite familiar with

00:19:48 ◼   ► numberphile including my controversial -

00:19:51 ◼   ► one-twelfth video about

00:19:53 ◼   ► some of the integers chorus we all

00:19:54 ◼   ► remember that this is in his wheelhouse

00:19:56 ◼   ► this subject like he's written blogs

00:19:58 ◼   ► about it and he was also very gracious

00:20:00 ◼   ► about that I'm sure he could have ripped

00:20:02 ◼   ► me to pieces but he was actually quite

00:20:03 ◼   ► nice about it which made me really

00:20:05 ◼   ► pleased I said you're being diplomatic

00:20:07 ◼   ► aren't you inside he's thinking yes yes

00:20:10 ◼   ► yes I'll just keep this black stump

00:20:13 ◼   ► loving we were no happy so anyway Terry

00:20:15 ◼   ► Tao brilliant I'm still taken aback by

00:20:17 ◼   ► his age because I was going to guess

00:20:19 ◼   ► surely the top guy it's got to be like

00:20:22 ◼   ► in his late 20s early 30s at most

00:20:25 ◼   ► isn't that the reputation and the

00:20:27 ◼   ► sciences and the mathematics that it's

00:20:28 ◼   ► yeah it's just like being a model or an

00:20:30 ◼   ► athlete like you peek in your 20s and

00:20:32 ◼   ► then it's all downhill from there so

00:20:34 ◼   ► this guy's like 2x peak age that's true

00:20:37 ◼   ► that's true and also you'd think in some

00:20:39 ◼   ► ways he's like the equivalent of a 60

00:20:41 ◼   ► year old because he was already like a

00:20:42 ◼   ► Top Gun when he was like 16 or 17 but no

00:20:46 ◼   ► he's still like on top of it and

00:20:48 ◼   ► cracking new things one of the reasons

00:20:50 ◼   ► for that though is he's unusually

00:20:52 ◼   ► collaborative like he's really into

00:20:54 ◼   ► collaboration and works with other

00:20:55 ◼   ► people and he's even got this thing that

00:20:58 ◼   ► you'd find quite interesting actually

00:20:59 ◼   ► he's working on this thing they called

00:21:00 ◼   ► the polymath project it's kind of like

00:21:03 ◼   ► crowdsourcing mathematics finding

00:21:06 ◼   ► subjects that could benefit from loads

00:21:08 ◼   ► of loads of people working on it and

00:21:09 ◼   ► they said I'm like a webpage and

00:21:11 ◼   ► everyone works on little bits and it

00:21:14 ◼   ► doesn't work for all mathematics but for

00:21:15 ◼   ► some problems that works really well

00:21:17 ◼   ► where lots and lots of different people

00:21:18 ◼   ► are doing lots of little different bits

00:21:20 ◼   ► it really pushes things forward quickly

00:21:23 ◼   ► and it sounds like you know it's not

00:21:25 ◼   ► something you and I could do it's still

00:21:27 ◼   ► like you know professional

00:21:28 ◼   ► mathematicians and stuff like that we

00:21:29 ◼   ► can't help out they don't need someone

00:21:31 ◼   ► to run it as an Excel spreadsheet and

00:21:32 ◼   ► some basic numbers I know when you hear

00:21:35 ◼   ► about this polymath and crowdsourcing

00:21:36 ◼   ► you think oh it's my chance to be

00:21:38 ◼   ► involved but it really is for

00:21:39 ◼   ► mathematicians it's just taking

00:21:41 ◼   ► collaboration to the next level there's

00:21:44 ◼   ► this thing called the twin prime

00:21:45 ◼   ► conjecture that there are an infinite

00:21:47 ◼   ► number of primes that are separated by

00:21:49 ◼   ► just two right right and you know no

00:21:51 ◼   ► matter how far you go down the number

00:21:53 ◼   ► line there's always another twin prime

00:21:54 ◼   ► coming somewhere and this guy a while

00:21:57 ◼   ► ago released a proof which was amazing

00:22:00 ◼   ► which proved that there are an infinite

00:22:00 ◼   ► number of primes that are separated by

00:22:03 ◼   ► 70 million which was a huge breakthrough

00:22:06 ◼   ► it was like one of the biggest

00:22:07 ◼   ► breakthroughs and mathematics of the

00:22:08 ◼   ► last sort of you know ten years or so

00:22:10 ◼   ► and then that this polymath project and

00:22:12 ◼   ► Terry Tao in particular have really

00:22:14 ◼   ► taken the bull by the horns and they've

00:22:16 ◼   ► been like doing all this new stuff to

00:22:18 ◼   ► bring that number down that bound mm-hmm

00:22:20 ◼   ► and I think they've got it to like you

00:22:21 ◼   ► know two hundred and seventy now and

00:22:24 ◼   ► they're all working on it to try to get

00:22:25 ◼   ► it down to this you know to which is the

00:22:27 ◼   ► Holy Grail so I find that stuff so

00:22:29 ◼   ► interesting and mathematically just

00:22:31 ◼   ► obviously like I can't follow any of the

00:22:33 ◼   ► details of it but just like there's

00:22:34 ◼   ► something really satisfying about

00:22:35 ◼   ► mathematical proofs and I do love that

00:22:38 ◼   ► idea of you can see people working

00:22:42 ◼   ► towards like once you've proven there's

00:22:44 ◼   ► an infinite number of primes that are

00:22:46 ◼   ► separated by an arbitrary number it

00:22:48 ◼   ► feels like oh I can see how that's a

00:22:50 ◼   ► toehold to try to work towards the

00:22:54 ◼   ► solution that you're looking for which

00:22:55 ◼   ► is to get them to separate it by two

00:22:56 ◼   ► yeah it seems like it must be incredibly

00:23:00 ◼   ► pleasing and satisfying work to move a

00:23:03 ◼   ► proof forward like step by step and to

00:23:05 ◼   ► be part of a project that is like

00:23:08 ◼   ► solving this bit by bit I can just

00:23:09 ◼   ► imagine that that has to be very

00:23:10 ◼   ► satisfying for professional

00:23:12 ◼   ► mathematicians one of the really

00:23:13 ◼   ► interesting things about Terry because

00:23:15 ◼   ► I've not really seen this trait often in

00:23:17 ◼   ► mathematicians or I've not often seen

00:23:19 ◼   ► them speak about it so openly but it

00:23:21 ◼   ► makes perfect sense is that his attitude

00:23:23 ◼   ► is pretty much as follows because I

00:23:25 ◼   ► spoke to him about the Riemann

00:23:26 ◼   ► hypothesis which is like one of the Holy

00:23:28 ◼   ► Grails of mathematics and I said to him

00:23:30 ◼   ► are you working on the Riemann

00:23:31 ◼   ► hypothesis and he said no I'm not at the

00:23:33 ◼   ► moment because to me it's like a cliff

00:23:36 ◼   ► that I can't get to the top of and it's

00:23:37 ◼   ► just a sheer flat wall with no way to

00:23:40 ◼   ► climb it but if someone somewhere makes

00:23:42 ◼   ► a breakthrough like you know and

00:23:44 ◼   ► produces a few toeholds and hand holds

00:23:46 ◼   ► that I can grab onto and start working

00:23:49 ◼   ► on I would go to it I'd run to it it

00:23:51 ◼   ► almost sounds kind of mercenary in a way

00:23:53 ◼   ► that he's like this samurai wandering

00:23:56 ◼   ► the world of mathematics because he

00:23:57 ◼   ► knows so much about so many different

00:23:59 ◼   ► areas of mathematics and as soon as like

00:24:01 ◼   ► there's a breakthrough somewhere else

00:24:02 ◼   ► there's a battle going or something good

00:24:04 ◼   ► that he thinks he can get his teeth into

00:24:05 ◼   ► that's what he'll go to and work on

00:24:07 ◼   ► because there's a chance now there's an

00:24:09 ◼   ► opening like he's not like Andrew Wiles

00:24:12 ◼   ► sitting up in a his attic working on for

00:24:14 ◼   ► Mars Last Theorem all his life in secret

00:24:16 ◼   ► he's this guy that's just like doing

00:24:19 ◼   ► things at once and whenever he hears

00:24:21 ◼   ► about a new cool breakthrough that's

00:24:22 ◼   ► where he goes and what he wants to do

00:24:24 ◼   ► because there's a chance now there's a

00:24:25 ◼   ► chance it can be solved or proved and it

00:24:28 ◼   ► was really kind of honest at but also

00:24:29 ◼   ► really interesting that that's his

00:24:30 ◼   ► attitude to it oh you mean it was

00:24:32 ◼   ► refreshing to hear that he's trying to

00:24:34 ◼   ► work on problems that are possible to

00:24:37 ◼   ► solve instead of like reinforcing the

00:24:39 ◼   ► idea of being the lone genius working on

00:24:41 ◼   ► the impossible thing is that what you

00:24:42 ◼   ► mean like is that how people normally

00:24:43 ◼   ► talk about it yeah but also I liked

00:24:45 ◼   ► hearing it described that way you could

00:24:47 ◼   ► almost say it sounds a bit like

00:24:48 ◼   ► opportunistic or a bit exploitative

00:24:49 ◼   ► isn't it like you know I'm waiting for

00:24:51 ◼   ► someone else to do something great so

00:24:53 ◼   ► that I can then piggyback it and take

00:24:55 ◼   ► this thing to the future glory don't get

00:24:57 ◼   ► me wrong he's not a glory Sega and he

00:24:59 ◼   ► doesn't need in his head his share of

00:25:00 ◼   ► glory already he retire now is one of

00:25:02 ◼   ► the greatest mathematicians ever but I

00:25:04 ◼   ► don't know mathematicians are quite

00:25:05 ◼   ► secretive and they don't always like you

00:25:07 ◼   ► to know what their dreams are and what

00:25:09 ◼   ► they're working on and maybe because

00:25:10 ◼   ► they fear the embarrassment of not

00:25:11 ◼   ► solving it or maybe just because they

00:25:13 ◼   ► drive at people but to hear him be

00:25:15 ◼   ► really open about you know yeah I want

00:25:17 ◼   ► to solve you know I want to do all this

00:25:18 ◼   ► stuff and I'm waiting sometimes to see

00:25:20 ◼   ► where the next big opportunity is and

00:25:22 ◼   ► but he's also a total collaborator and

00:25:24 ◼   ► it's not about him he just wants to know

00:25:25 ◼   ► everything and he wants to everything to

00:25:27 ◼   ► be solved and proved and like you say

00:25:29 ◼   ► what he's doing is entirely rational he

00:25:32 ◼   ► wants to go to where the opportunity is

00:25:33 ◼   ► where progress can be made

00:25:35 ◼   ► mm-hmm but you don't often hear

00:25:36 ◼   ► mathematicians talk that way which is

00:25:38 ◼   ► what I found interesting he sounds like

00:25:39 ◼   ► a very smart guy he is he's pretty smart

00:25:41 ◼   ► but voice from Adelaide all the best

00:25:43 ◼   ► place I love totally yes of course how

00:25:45 ◼   ► can I forget all the best people are

00:25:47 ◼   ► from Adelaide and they all loved the

00:25:50 ◼   ► mighty Blackstone it's crazy that he's

00:25:52 ◼   ► not famous in Adelaide like he's like

00:25:54 ◼   ► one of the great Adelaide Ian's that has

00:25:55 ◼   ► been produced yeah he should be right

00:25:57 ◼   ► next to the Brady Haran statue yes

00:25:59 ◼   ► that's the way it should work yeah all

00:26:03 ◼   ► right Brady so tell me what were you

00:26:05 ◼   ► doing in Russia I have no idea why you

00:26:08 ◼   ► were there I just randomly got a

00:26:11 ◼   ► photograph of a postcard of Vladimir

00:26:13 ◼   ► Putin riding a bear and that's how I

00:26:16 ◼   ► knew you were in Russia well this should

00:26:18 ◼   ► be semi interesting for you because one

00:26:20 ◼   ► of my interests that you do share to

00:26:22 ◼   ► some degree is the periodic table you do

00:26:24 ◼   ► seem to show more than a flicker of

00:26:25 ◼   ► interest in all things periodic table

00:26:27 ◼   ► related and the reason I was there was

00:26:30 ◼   ► for the inauguration of

00:26:33 ◼   ► three of those four new elements that

00:26:35 ◼   ► were discovered oh that's right the

00:26:38 ◼   ► elements yeah

00:26:39 ◼   ► so there were these four new ones that

00:26:41 ◼   ► have been discovered over the last

00:26:42 ◼   ► however many years but they finally got

00:26:45 ◼   ► their rubber stamp towards the end of

00:26:47 ◼   ► last year in terms of I you pack the

00:26:50 ◼   ► official periodic table Guardians saying

00:26:52 ◼   ► yep they were definitely discovered you

00:26:54 ◼   ► people can name them they proposed the

00:26:56 ◼   ► names and then the names were approved

00:26:57 ◼   ► so we had Mahoney 'm which was made and

00:27:01 ◼   ► discovered in japan so named after japan

00:27:03 ◼   ► and then we had three that was

00:27:05 ◼   ► synthesized at a place called Dubner

00:27:08 ◼   ► just outside Moscow mmm-hmm these were

00:27:11 ◼   ► Moscow viim tennis ain although it was

00:27:14 ◼   ► named after Tennessee it was actually

00:27:15 ◼   ► made in Russia as well and organ nests

00:27:19 ◼   ► on which is named after a guy called

00:27:20 ◼   ► Yuri organ essien who is still alive

00:27:22 ◼   ► which is only the second time this has

00:27:24 ◼   ► ever happened I don't know exactly how

00:27:26 ◼   ► it happened but Martin Polyakov the

00:27:29 ◼   ► chemistry professor who I make periodic

00:27:31 ◼   ► videos with I think contacted Yuri

00:27:33 ◼   ► organiztion and they became kind of

00:27:36 ◼   ► friendly on email helped by the fact

00:27:38 ◼   ► that Martin speaks Russian which I think

00:27:40 ◼   ► was a real icebreaker because he could

00:27:41 ◼   ► write his emails in Russian and much to

00:27:44 ◼   ► our surprise actually these people who

00:27:46 ◼   ► make these super-heavy elements totally

00:27:48 ◼   ► know who we are because I think what

00:27:51 ◼   ► happens is whenever they google their

00:27:53 ◼   ► new elements and things they always

00:27:54 ◼   ► inevitably see our YouTube videos

00:27:56 ◼   ► because we make a million youtube videos

00:27:57 ◼   ► about them no I think it is actually

00:27:59 ◼   ► just your towering fame in the world of

00:28:01 ◼   ► chemistry surely you must be one of the

00:28:04 ◼   ► most famous popularizers of chemistry

00:28:07 ◼   ► right the two of you together in

00:28:08 ◼   ► particular well maybe this is possible

00:28:11 ◼   ► you have a whole statue of you in

00:28:13 ◼   ► Adelaide no small part because of that

00:28:15 ◼   ► what is this stitch you're not glad you

00:28:17 ◼   ► people gonna think this is a thing if

00:28:19 ◼   ► you keep saying that if I keep saying

00:28:20 ◼   ► it'll become a thing okay yeah but get

00:28:22 ◼   ► anyway go on go on

00:28:23 ◼   ► so anyway they had the ceremony to name

00:28:27 ◼   ► the elements so they invited us they

00:28:29 ◼   ► said you should come to the ceremony and

00:28:31 ◼   ► they didn't only invite us Martin was

00:28:33 ◼   ► invited to be like a speaker so I

00:28:35 ◼   ► thought I'll get him to say a few words

00:28:37 ◼   ► but he became like the keynote speaker

00:28:39 ◼   ► who gave like probably what the main

00:28:41 ◼   ► speech of the event in Russian and then

00:28:44 ◼   ► we went to Dubner the big facility where

00:28:46 ◼   ► they

00:28:47 ◼   ► made the elements and agony seein

00:28:49 ◼   ► himself was like so like giving of his

00:28:53 ◼   ► time and we spent like today with him

00:28:55 ◼   ► and he took us around and gave us tours

00:28:57 ◼   ► and interviews and took us out for meals

00:29:00 ◼   ► and all sorts of stuff so I spent all

00:29:02 ◼   ► this time with the guy who had the

00:29:04 ◼   ► element named after him and we made all

00:29:06 ◼   ► these videos and had this amazing time

00:29:08 ◼   ► was brilliant I'm just confused here

00:29:10 ◼   ► though because we first discussed these

00:29:11 ◼   ► elements and whatever was a year ago so

00:29:14 ◼   ► I understand there must be some kind of

00:29:15 ◼   ► process to make it official and I

00:29:17 ◼   ► thought we were he passed the yes there

00:29:19 ◼   ► really official stage yet we had passed

00:29:21 ◼   ► that stage but now they're officially

00:29:23 ◼   ► named this is the official naming

00:29:25 ◼   ► ceremony yeah this was like the party

00:29:27 ◼   ► this was like the ceremony okay so the

00:29:29 ◼   ► names had become official but this was

00:29:32 ◼   ► like the all the people from America and

00:29:34 ◼   ► all the people from Japan and all the

00:29:35 ◼   ► different collaborators that had any

00:29:37 ◼   ► role all came together for a few days

00:29:39 ◼   ► and they had the big shindig in Moscow

00:29:42 ◼   ► like the Academy of Sciences with

00:29:44 ◼   ► ceremonies and speeches and lots of

00:29:46 ◼   ► vodka I can imagine and like the pickled

00:29:50 ◼   ► herring and over the Russian food little

00:29:51 ◼   ► caviar so that was the big party and

00:29:54 ◼   ► then they went and had a tour of the

00:29:56 ◼   ► Dubner facility for themselves because

00:29:57 ◼   ► some of them hadn't really had a good

00:29:59 ◼   ► look at it and because it was switched

00:30:00 ◼   ► off for the morning they could like get

00:30:03 ◼   ► up close to all the things they normally

00:30:04 ◼   ► can't see like all the cyclotrons and

00:30:06 ◼   ► the beamlines and the places where the

00:30:08 ◼   ► atoms all get smashed so it was like a

00:30:10 ◼   ► nice tour and then they had like a half

00:30:12 ◼   ► a day little symposium where everyone

00:30:14 ◼   ► gave technical scientific talks about

00:30:17 ◼   ► the state of play how can we make the

00:30:19 ◼   ► next elements what are the next steps it

00:30:22 ◼   ► was a chance for them all to get

00:30:23 ◼   ► together

00:30:23 ◼   ► partly to celebrate and have a drink and

00:30:26 ◼   ► partly to do a bit of face-to-face

00:30:27 ◼   ► collaboration and we kind of piggybacked

00:30:30 ◼   ► it as a chance to make videos but also

00:30:33 ◼   ► we were kind of i mean more martin than

00:30:35 ◼   ► made to be honest we've sort of fettered

00:30:37 ◼   ► as the sort of VIPs as well so i thought

00:30:40 ◼   ► we were going to be like the

00:30:41 ◼   ► fly-on-the-wall

00:30:42 ◼   ► but we ended up being quite a center of

00:30:44 ◼   ► attention you went from fly-on-the-wall

00:30:45 ◼   ► to belle of the ball is that what you

00:30:47 ◼   ► did baby look at you you can tell it's

00:30:51 ◼   ► not 6:00 in the morning where you are

00:30:52 ◼   ► these little clever turns a phrase but

00:30:55 ◼   ► okay look I have a lot of charity

00:30:57 ◼   ► towards the world of science and

00:30:58 ◼   ► chemistry yeah but I have to like is

00:31:00 ◼   ► this the fun

00:31:01 ◼   ► no party because it feels like it's just

00:31:03 ◼   ► getting stretched out a little bit here

00:31:04 ◼   ► is there gonna be a party later on

00:31:06 ◼   ► that's like ooh the official embossing

00:31:08 ◼   ► of the element onto the periodic table

00:31:11 ◼   ► I'm just wondering how many stages is it

00:31:13 ◼   ► until like in a high school chemistry

00:31:15 ◼   ► class when you buy a periodic table it's

00:31:17 ◼   ► just listed there or like or is that not

00:31:19 ◼   ► allowed yet until another party occurs

00:31:21 ◼   ► we're already past that oh okay this was

00:31:23 ◼   ► like you know how sometimes like if you

00:31:26 ◼   ► win an award you know sometimes it's

00:31:28 ◼   ► announced like the Nobel Prize they

00:31:29 ◼   ► announce the Nobel Prize who won it and

00:31:31 ◼   ► there's a big media cover full but it's

00:31:34 ◼   ► usually two or three months later that

00:31:36 ◼   ► they then actually give them the medals

00:31:37 ◼   ► and do the speeches and the certificates

00:31:39 ◼   ► or when someone gets a knighthood you

00:31:41 ◼   ► know it's announced so-and-so is now a

00:31:43 ◼   ► knight but they don't actually have the

00:31:45 ◼   ► sword on their shoulder from the Queen

00:31:46 ◼   ► until a few months later that's what

00:31:48 ◼   ► this was like so the elements were

00:31:50 ◼   ► official and it was announced this was

00:31:51 ◼   ► just the sword on your shoulder from the

00:31:53 ◼   ► Queen to say well done cuz it takes a

00:31:55 ◼   ► while to get everyone together you know

00:31:57 ◼   ► you know I just realized like I knew

00:31:59 ◼   ► this but I never really thought about it

00:32:01 ◼   ► because I think in my head when I hear

00:32:03 ◼   ► about people going to the Nobel award

00:32:05 ◼   ► ceremony I think I was imagining it was

00:32:07 ◼   ► like the Oscars and all of the nominees

00:32:09 ◼   ► are sitting there in the audience

00:32:11 ◼   ► waiting to find out who the winner is

00:32:13 ◼   ► now when they open the envelope in

00:32:16 ◼   ► retrospect getting a whole bunch of

00:32:17 ◼   ► scientists together at the same time to

00:32:19 ◼   ► do that for a crowd that is not

00:32:22 ◼   ► explicitly publicity-seeking in the same

00:32:25 ◼   ► way that say Hollywood would be

00:32:26 ◼   ► obviously yes that's not the way it's

00:32:28 ◼   ► going to work but I think in my head I

00:32:29 ◼   ► always imagined when they announced the

00:32:31 ◼   ► Nobel prize-winner that there's four sad

00:32:33 ◼   ► Nobel Prize losers who are sitting there

00:32:36 ◼   ► in the audience and still have to have a

00:32:38 ◼   ► party that night with everybody else I

00:32:40 ◼   ► mean the Nobel Prize is a kind of a bit

00:32:42 ◼   ► crazy I assume you know this or you knew

00:32:44 ◼   ► this but maybe you don't but obviously

00:32:46 ◼   ► who's even under consideration is kept

00:32:48 ◼   ► secret and then there's a press

00:32:50 ◼   ► conference held in Sweden where there's

00:32:53 ◼   ► just basically journalists there and

00:32:54 ◼   ► some people from the Nobel Committee and

00:32:56 ◼   ► a few experts come out and they announce

00:32:58 ◼   ► who the winner is but the people who

00:33:01 ◼   ► have won or the person who has won only

00:33:03 ◼   ► finds out themselves about ten minutes

00:33:05 ◼   ► before they phone them wherever they are

00:33:07 ◼   ► in the world and say this is the Nobel

00:33:09 ◼   ► Committee you've won the Nobel Prize

00:33:11 ◼   ► we're about to announce that you know

00:33:14 ◼   ► well done

00:33:15 ◼   ► but that process actually causes

00:33:16 ◼   ► problems because quite often they can't

00:33:19 ◼   ► contact the person they need to contact

00:33:20 ◼   ► yeah like so they'll be phoning someone

00:33:22 ◼   ► around the world saying we need to speak

00:33:23 ◼   ► to Jane Doe she's just won the Nobel

00:33:26 ◼   ► Prize and they can't get her and they

00:33:28 ◼   ► famously couldn't get Higgs when he won

00:33:31 ◼   ► it for the Higgs boson and he found out

00:33:32 ◼   ► from someone who just heard it on the

00:33:33 ◼   ► radio and told him are you just won the

00:33:36 ◼   ► Nobel Prize recently there was a big

00:33:38 ◼   ► problem though because they phoned

00:33:39 ◼   ► someone who won and the person had died

00:33:42 ◼   ► like a week or two before and they

00:33:44 ◼   ► didn't know mm-hmm and they like phoned

00:33:46 ◼   ► the house and they said ah he's dead and

00:33:49 ◼   ► you can't win the Nobel Prize if you've

00:33:50 ◼   ► died but he still got it I made an

00:33:54 ◼   ► exception I did know that about the

00:33:56 ◼   ► phone call because I think like I've

00:33:57 ◼   ► heard various stories and that's what I

00:33:58 ◼   ► mean like I never put two and two

00:34:00 ◼   ► together in my head I was still

00:34:02 ◼   ► imagining that somehow there were people

00:34:03 ◼   ► in the audience at the actual ceremony I

00:34:05 ◼   ► did know about the phone call because

00:34:07 ◼   ► you do hear those stories sometimes of

00:34:08 ◼   ► someone missing it or some kind of

00:34:09 ◼   ► incident that occurs when trying to get

00:34:11 ◼   ► in touch with someone for the phone call

00:34:12 ◼   ► so I spent a lot of time around people

00:34:15 ◼   ► speaking Russian to each other over the

00:34:17 ◼   ► last week eventually I got used to it

00:34:19 ◼   ► but when it first started happening more

00:34:22 ◼   ► when I was applying for my visa and I

00:34:23 ◼   ► was around a lot of people speaking

00:34:24 ◼   ► Russian to each other

00:34:25 ◼   ► I felt quite silly and embarrassed by

00:34:28 ◼   ► myself by how much I felt like I was in

00:34:30 ◼   ► a spy movie but when two people speak

00:34:33 ◼   ► Russian to each other it's amazing how

00:34:35 ◼   ► the Hollywood training takes over and

00:34:37 ◼   ► you assume everything's like a big

00:34:39 ◼   ► conspiracy and they're talking about all

00:34:40 ◼   ► this cool spy stuff it did make me

00:34:43 ◼   ► wonder if like when Russian people who

00:34:46 ◼   ► don't speak English here - people

00:34:47 ◼   ► speaking English to each other do they

00:34:49 ◼   ► think the same thing I can't imagine

00:34:51 ◼   ► what English sounds like to people who

00:34:53 ◼   ► don't speak English like what do we

00:34:54 ◼   ► sound like do we sound like villains

00:34:56 ◼   ► from an Indiana Jones movie the same way

00:34:58 ◼   ► that I think that or like I wonder if

00:35:00 ◼   ► that's the case or English has a

00:35:02 ◼   ► different sound to it I imagine it must

00:35:03 ◼   ► be like that I know I had a friend who

00:35:06 ◼   ► didn't grow up speaking English a long

00:35:08 ◼   ► time ago and I asked her about like what

00:35:10 ◼   ► is English sound like and her response

00:35:11 ◼   ► was it was if anyone ever imitates a

00:35:14 ◼   ► language there's usually just a couple

00:35:16 ◼   ► of sounds that you're really doing a

00:35:18 ◼   ► whole bunch of times yeah like if you're

00:35:20 ◼   ► doing French you'll be like juju Lulu

00:35:21 ◼   ► Lala like yeah yeah that's like that's

00:35:24 ◼   ► exactly what French sounds like yeah

00:35:25 ◼   ► yeah or famously not the way the

00:35:28 ◼   ► America World Police movie did Middle

00:35:30 ◼   ► Eastern languages like was really

00:35:32 ◼   ► terrible yeah it's the same thing where

00:35:34 ◼   ► they're just doing a couple of sounds

00:35:35 ◼   ► yeah and her response was that the

00:35:38 ◼   ► English sounds were T sounds and s

00:35:41 ◼   ► sounds stuffs like that sound was for

00:35:46 ◼   ► her like the couple of sounds she would

00:35:47 ◼   ► make if she was thinking about the way

00:35:48 ◼   ► English is I say oh look at those

00:35:50 ◼   ► English speakers over there it's

00:35:51 ◼   ► treacherous yeah to us like I said it

00:35:55 ◼   ► was not exactly a pleasant sounding

00:35:57 ◼   ► language if you don't know what they're

00:35:58 ◼   ► saying and I can see that I imagine

00:36:00 ◼   ► English is not the best sounding

00:36:02 ◼   ► language if you haven't heard it or if

00:36:04 ◼   ► you don't know what they're actually

00:36:05 ◼   ► saying but I think it's impossible to

00:36:07 ◼   ► get out of because I know there's a

00:36:09 ◼   ► YouTube video where someone tries to

00:36:11 ◼   ► make gibberish sounds to give you the

00:36:13 ◼   ► idea of what English sounds like to a

00:36:15 ◼   ► foreign language speaker but it doesn't

00:36:17 ◼   ► seem convincing to me and I've asked

00:36:19 ◼   ► some people and it seems like it's not a

00:36:20 ◼   ► good representation of what it actually

00:36:22 ◼   ► sounds like I don't think you can get

00:36:24 ◼   ► out of your head with this sort of thing

00:36:25 ◼   ► but yeah I'm trying to think if I have

00:36:28 ◼   ► ever in my life heard Russian spoken not

00:36:32 ◼   ► in the context of a spy movie okay I

00:36:36 ◼   ► think I may have never heard this

00:36:38 ◼   ► language spoken outside of Hollywood's

00:36:41 ◼   ► representation of it on a submarine I

00:36:43 ◼   ► think that might be the only time I've

00:36:45 ◼   ► ever heard it looks like Oh Sean Connery

00:36:47 ◼   ► speaking Russian that's what Russian is

00:36:49 ◼   ► I had a bit of it spoken that's for sure

00:36:52 ◼   ► did you pick up anything I hear it's a

00:36:53 ◼   ► really easy language to pick up no yeah

00:36:58 ◼   ► it's like Spanish you know I spend a

00:37:00 ◼   ► week in Spain you'll get the gist of it

00:37:01 ◼   ► I'm sure it's the same way in Moscow

00:37:03 ◼   ► it's really easy I can tell you one

00:37:04 ◼   ► story about Russian being spoken if you

00:37:07 ◼   ► can handle bit of a shaggy dog story

00:37:08 ◼   ► I'll tell you my story about the final

00:37:10 ◼   ► day in Russia Brady I am a professional

00:37:13 ◼   ► Brady shaggy-dog story listener I should

00:37:16 ◼   ► put that on my business card this is

00:37:17 ◼   ► what I actually do shaggy-dog listen so

00:37:22 ◼   ► on the final day we left Dube known

00:37:24 ◼   ► north of Moscow and we were going to go

00:37:26 ◼   ► to the airport that night but Professor

00:37:28 ◼   ► Polyakov has this friend near Moscow who

00:37:31 ◼   ► he wanted to visit so the taxi driver

00:37:33 ◼   ► was going to take us to this friend's

00:37:35 ◼   ► house who has this nice house and it

00:37:37 ◼   ► adjoins a museum she runs which is a

00:37:40 ◼   ► tank

00:37:41 ◼   ► in rule yeah because her father was the

00:37:44 ◼   ► designer of I think it's a t-34 the

00:37:46 ◼   ► famous Russian tank and she herself I

00:37:49 ◼   ► was told is quite famous in Russia she's

00:37:52 ◼   ► quite old now but she was a famous poet

00:37:54 ◼   ► when poetry was a big deal in Russia and

00:37:56 ◼   ► poets were celebrities

00:37:57 ◼   ► and now she's just famous as being her

00:37:59 ◼   ► elder stateswoman was that really a time

00:38:01 ◼   ► when that there were famous poets yeah

00:38:03 ◼   ► the Russian name which apparently is

00:38:05 ◼   ► really good for poetry way better than

00:38:07 ◼   ► English because word order is less

00:38:09 ◼   ► important so you can be a bit more

00:38:10 ◼   ► creative with poetry so in the Soviet

00:38:13 ◼   ► times poets were like pop stars

00:38:15 ◼   ► apparently this seems like something a

00:38:17 ◼   ► poet would tell you but okay I'm gonna

00:38:19 ◼   ► I'm going to run with it for the purpose

00:38:20 ◼   ► of the story anyway this is by the by

00:38:22 ◼   ► we're being taken to a house for lunch

00:38:24 ◼   ► we were going to have a look at the Tank

00:38:25 ◼   ► Museum and then we were going to go to

00:38:27 ◼   ► the airport so this taxi driver comes to

00:38:29 ◼   ► pick us up from Dubner at the hotel and

00:38:32 ◼   ► Martin explains to this taxi driver in

00:38:35 ◼   ► Russian you have to take us to this

00:38:36 ◼   ► house first and we're going to be there

00:38:38 ◼   ► for a few hours eating going to a museum

00:38:40 ◼   ► and then you're taking us to the airport

00:38:42 ◼   ► and the taxi driver didn't know this

00:38:44 ◼   ► what he had done is he was being a bit

00:38:47 ◼   ► naughty and he had arranged for his wife

00:38:50 ◼   ► to come with us on the drive to Moscow

00:38:52 ◼   ► and he was going to use the trip as a

00:38:53 ◼   ► chance to take his wife for the day

00:38:55 ◼   ► shopping in Moscow so his plans are

00:38:58 ◼   ► suddenly had been scuppered so he was

00:39:00 ◼   ► pretty unhappy so he drove to the

00:39:02 ◼   ► apartment building where he lived where

00:39:04 ◼   ► his wife was waiting at the front and

00:39:05 ◼   ► she was all dressed up and she had loads

00:39:08 ◼   ► and loads of makeup on and she'd

00:39:09 ◼   ► obviously done her hair cuz her hair was

00:39:11 ◼   ► standing at some angle that I can't

00:39:13 ◼   ► believe was even physically possible she

00:39:15 ◼   ► was clearly a woman dressed for her big

00:39:16 ◼   ► day out in Moscow and he's had to go up

00:39:19 ◼   ► and say to her look we can't go because

00:39:21 ◼   ► I've got to take these people to some

00:39:23 ◼   ► house and sit outside the house for

00:39:24 ◼   ► three hours and he was telling her go

00:39:26 ◼   ► back you're not coming but she was like

00:39:28 ◼   ► no I'm all dressed up I've got my makeup

00:39:30 ◼   ► on I look amazing I'm coming to Moscow

00:39:33 ◼   ► anyway yeah you can't say no to a woman

00:39:35 ◼   ► at the end of her preparation ritual and

00:39:37 ◼   ► I think like no sorry like whatever

00:39:39 ◼   ► plans you had for the day if she

00:39:41 ◼   ► finished getting ready your plans are

00:39:43 ◼   ► changing that's what's happening and I

00:39:44 ◼   ► can assure you this woman had spent a

00:39:46 ◼   ► long time getting ready it was evident

00:39:48 ◼   ► so she gets in the car and it's all I've

00:39:50 ◼   ► already got like three bags on my lap

00:39:52 ◼   ► because I can't put my bags on the chair

00:39:55 ◼   ► it's been reserved for her in the car so

00:39:57 ◼   ► like everyone's pretty inconvenienced by

00:39:59 ◼   ► this whole thing

00:40:00 ◼   ► we drive for two hours to this house and

00:40:03 ◼   ► we park outside and we say something

00:40:04 ◼   ► like do you want to like come in or

00:40:05 ◼   ► something like that and they're like no

00:40:07 ◼   ► of course not

00:40:07 ◼   ► so they're parked out in the snow and

00:40:10 ◼   ► they have to sit out in their car for

00:40:12 ◼   ► three hours while I go inside which I

00:40:16 ◼   ► couldn't believe they were doing so I go

00:40:18 ◼   ► inside Martin speaks Russian to this

00:40:21 ◼   ► woman for three hours she did speak a

00:40:23 ◼   ► bit of English and she was really polite

00:40:25 ◼   ► and nice to me but I have to tell you it

00:40:27 ◼   ► was pretty hard work for me sitting

00:40:28 ◼   ► there watching two people who were bit

00:40:31 ◼   ► older talking Russian to each other but

00:40:34 ◼   ► I couldn't get away I couldn't escape

00:40:35 ◼   ► and like Martin was there for trying to

00:40:37 ◼   ► include me so every 2 or 3 sentences

00:40:40 ◼   ► Martin would give me a brief summary of

00:40:42 ◼   ► what had just been said and it was quite

00:40:44 ◼   ► you know boring stuff ah she just told

00:40:47 ◼   ► me that her uncle is remarried to her

00:40:49 ◼   ► aunt Maria and I really uh like I'm

00:40:53 ◼   ► having a social freakout just even

00:40:54 ◼   ► listening to you describe this like I

00:40:56 ◼   ► don't think I could handle this I don't

00:40:57 ◼   ► think I could psychologically handle the

00:40:58 ◼   ► situation and I love Martin he's like

00:41:00 ◼   ► family and I love spending time with him

00:41:02 ◼   ► but this was quite difficult I think it

00:41:04 ◼   ► was difficult for everyone and I was

00:41:06 ◼   ► sitting at this table with all this like

00:41:08 ◼   ► alcohol and really rich Russian food

00:41:10 ◼   ► filling my nostrils and I was starting

00:41:12 ◼   ► to feel a bit unwell and then eventually

00:41:14 ◼   ► we get to go to this Tank Museum and we

00:41:18 ◼   ► walk around and there was a funny moment

00:41:20 ◼   ► cuz apparently this woman's famous but

00:41:21 ◼   ► she was like showing Martin around and

00:41:23 ◼   ► at some point some person in the Tank

00:41:24 ◼   ► Museum walked up to her and I think she

00:41:26 ◼   ► was preparing herself for the yes yes I

00:41:28 ◼   ► am who you think I am

00:41:29 ◼   ► this guy actually said to her do you

00:41:31 ◼   ► realize who that is that you're

00:41:33 ◼   ► translating for that's Martyn Poliakoff

00:41:34 ◼   ► from periodic videos which he thought

00:41:37 ◼   ► was quite funny and then we went back to

00:41:40 ◼   ► the house we said our goodbyes and it

00:41:42 ◼   ► was all good and we get in the car and

00:41:44 ◼   ► we say to them okay we're ready to go

00:41:46 ◼   ► and this woman who's been sitting in the

00:41:48 ◼   ► car for three hours with all her makeup

00:41:50 ◼   ► on her head and who's day we've ruined

00:41:52 ◼   ► just turns around us as one moment and

00:41:54 ◼   ► she goes back to the house where the old

00:41:57 ◼   ► woman who we've been with is sort of

00:41:59 ◼   ► standing waving goodbye to us and this

00:42:01 ◼   ► woman goes up to her and like shakes her

00:42:04 ◼   ► hand and like almost falls to her knees

00:42:06 ◼   ► and starts crying

00:42:09 ◼   ► and says that she cannot believe what

00:42:10 ◼   ► her honor has been to sit outside her

00:42:12 ◼   ► house for the last three hours meeting

00:42:15 ◼   ► this person is like the highlight of her

00:42:16 ◼   ► life Wow and then she comes back to the

00:42:18 ◼   ► car and says I can't believe I just got

00:42:20 ◼   ► to meet her thank you so much like she

00:42:21 ◼   ► is a living museum to the history of

00:42:23 ◼   ► Russia and like this has been like the

00:42:25 ◼   ► most massive honor I could ever have had

00:42:27 ◼   ► say this woman whose day we ruined and

00:42:29 ◼   ► whose shopping trip we ruined ended up

00:42:31 ◼   ► sitting outside someone who I don't know

00:42:33 ◼   ► who it's the equivalent of but it's like

00:42:34 ◼   ► the most famous person to hear in all of

00:42:36 ◼   ► Russia and she just got to meet her and

00:42:38 ◼   ► she couldn't believe it she was so

00:42:40 ◼   ► grateful

00:42:40 ◼   ► I feel way less doubtful about your

00:42:42 ◼   ► statement of the fame of poets in Russia

00:42:44 ◼   ► after that yeah I mean this woman has

00:42:47 ◼   ► written like a hundred books she was

00:42:49 ◼   ► showing but you know those pictures of

00:42:50 ◼   ► her with Yuri Gagarin and Vladimir Putin

00:42:53 ◼   ► and all that stuff she's a mover and a

00:42:54 ◼   ► shaker so mm-hmm so turns out for this

00:42:56 ◼   ► three hours I was sitting at the table

00:42:58 ◼   ► absolutely bored out of my brains I was

00:43:00 ◼   ► with this super famous Russian person

00:43:02 ◼   ► and to me it was just a couple of old

00:43:04 ◼   ► people talking about Auntie Maria that's

00:43:06 ◼   ► the thing with Fame right it is a light

00:43:08 ◼   ► that only works in some circles right

00:43:10 ◼   ► yeah if you're outside of it it's just

00:43:11 ◼   ► totally meaningless yeah yeah I tell you

00:43:15 ◼   ► I got organization to sign my periodic

00:43:18 ◼   ► table with organist on on it which is

00:43:20 ◼   ► now one of my prized possessions ooh

00:43:22 ◼   ► gonna hang that up they're gonna go up

00:43:24 ◼   ► in your office I might get it framed

00:43:25 ◼   ► it's pretty special only the second

00:43:28 ◼   ► person alive ever to have their name on

00:43:30 ◼   ► the table Glenn Seaborg was the other

00:43:32 ◼   ► one and he's dead now big deal that I

00:43:35 ◼   ► didn't know what you were up to in

00:43:36 ◼   ► Russia but it sounds like you were up to

00:43:38 ◼   ► a hell of a lot is what you were up to

00:43:40 ◼   ► yeah and like at one point Martin did in

00:43:43 ◼   ► his speech like mentioned me and put a

00:43:45 ◼   ► photo of me up and everyone like clapped

00:43:47 ◼   ► and I had to get up and wave the

00:43:48 ◼   ► audience so like I had my little moment

00:43:50 ◼   ► although it was belittled a little bit

00:43:53 ◼   ► by the fact that when Martin first got

00:43:55 ◼   ► on stage he had a frog in his throat

00:43:56 ◼   ► and he said Brady can you bring me a

00:43:58 ◼   ► water so the first thing I had to do was

00:44:00 ◼   ► like walk onstage and bring him a bottle

00:44:02 ◼   ► of water at which point I felt totally

00:44:04 ◼   ► like the lackey I didn't feel like the

00:44:06 ◼   ► big bad a filmmaker then I felt like

00:44:07 ◼   ► he's a personal assistant exactly he's a

00:44:10 ◼   ► knight and you are the squire yeah boy

00:44:14 ◼   ► bring me some water

00:44:16 ◼   ► anyway that's a lot of talk about Russia

00:44:18 ◼   ► so it's a big country but funny you

00:44:20 ◼   ► should say that because one of the

00:44:21 ◼   ► things that did

00:44:22 ◼   ► her to me and like this is not a big

00:44:24 ◼   ► deal it just to pop into my head is you

00:44:26 ◼   ► know how they were like those apps and

00:44:27 ◼   ► things where you like list the countries

00:44:29 ◼   ► you've been to and then it like renders

00:44:31 ◼   ► a map that colors in other countries

00:44:33 ◼   ► you've been to just by going to Moscow

00:44:35 ◼   ► and dog know which is like two hours

00:44:37 ◼   ► outside Moscow I have now colored in a

00:44:39 ◼   ► massive massive section of that map oh

00:44:42 ◼   ► yeah so when I look at the map of

00:44:45 ◼   ► countries I've been to now like most of

00:44:47 ◼   ► us colored in there just by going to

00:44:48 ◼   ► Moscow you're totally cheating by doing

00:44:51 ◼   ► it but actually I think it's not really

00:44:53 ◼   ► cheating because most of the people live

00:44:55 ◼   ► on just this tiny little sliver by

00:44:57 ◼   ► Moscow anyway so it's like I yeah you

00:44:58 ◼   ► know you covered most of the people area

00:45:01 ◼   ► I guess so it's fine you can color in

00:45:03 ◼   ► that mole section so oh like Siberia and

00:45:06 ◼   ► Kamchatka and all those areas are all

00:45:07 ◼   ► colored in now but I've never even seen

00:45:09 ◼   ► them yeah you got that man don't worry

00:45:11 ◼   ► yeah no you're cool on the binary map

00:45:15 ◼   ► you have ticked this box I've done a few

00:45:17 ◼   ► of those apps where you do that and you

00:45:19 ◼   ► list all your countries and it colors

00:45:20 ◼   ► them in but it does the United States

00:45:22 ◼   ► separately as States and you got a list

00:45:25 ◼   ► the states you've been to that's goddamn

00:45:27 ◼   ► right yeah of course

00:45:28 ◼   ► oh how American centric is that that's

00:45:31 ◼   ► crazy there's not American centric it's

00:45:33 ◼   ► just the way it should be you know just

00:45:35 ◼   ► like the states they need to have their

00:45:37 ◼   ► own emoji flags and the emoji picker was

00:45:39 ◼   ► we decided last time it's clearly that's

00:45:42 ◼   ► the way it should be yeah and yeah if

00:45:44 ◼   ► you're traveling to America it only

00:45:45 ◼   ► counts statewide you don't get to take

00:45:47 ◼   ► the whole country of a match Brady Brady

00:45:49 ◼   ► do you know how wildly culturally

00:45:53 ◼   ► diverse the United States is in

00:45:55 ◼   ► different areas they're like totally

00:45:58 ◼   ► different countries and just think about

00:46:00 ◼   ► it you know Delaware is so different

00:46:02 ◼   ► from New Jersey true they might as well

00:46:03 ◼   ► be thousands of miles apart you have to

00:46:06 ◼   ► color in each one of those states

00:46:08 ◼   ► separately if you don't get the color in

00:46:09 ◼   ► all of America now it's amazing how much

00:46:11 ◼   ► the cuisine changes from state to state

00:46:13 ◼   ► like the subtle variations of barbecue

00:46:16 ◼   ► sauce but do you see I actually will

00:46:19 ◼   ► argue that's quite important you pick

00:46:23 ◼   ► the wrong one there buddy

00:46:24 ◼   ► I figure in America you can actually

00:46:27 ◼   ► draw like four or five big distinction

00:46:32 ◼   ► areas but even then like it's not

00:46:34 ◼   ► nothing

00:46:35 ◼   ► the United States is pretty homogeneous

00:46:37 ◼   ► you're either on the west coast where

00:46:38 ◼   ► it's sunny mm-hmm or the East Coast

00:46:41 ◼   ► where it's like bit cold mm-hmm for you

00:46:44 ◼   ► in the middle that yeah and you ever say

00:46:46 ◼   ► from the plane anyway so it doesn't

00:46:47 ◼   ► really matter there's a huge section of

00:46:48 ◼   ► no-man's land there the coasts and then

00:46:51 ◼   ► there's the south

00:46:53 ◼   ► yeah and that's sort of it yeah that's

00:46:55 ◼   ► my mental map of America yeah no-man's

00:46:57 ◼   ► land beautiful though you got a drive

00:46:59 ◼   ► through it some day doesn't count if

00:47:00 ◼   ► you're flying over you don't get to take

00:47:01 ◼   ► the states if you fly over I really want

00:47:03 ◼   ► to drive across America and my wife who

00:47:06 ◼   ► loves travel and adventure it's the one

00:47:08 ◼   ► holiday and trip I can't

00:47:10 ◼   ► enthuse her about like she went to every

00:47:12 ◼   ► Space Camp with me and she'll do

00:47:13 ◼   ► anything and she wants to see everything

00:47:15 ◼   ► and I always say let's drive across

00:47:16 ◼   ► America and she just thinks I don't know

00:47:19 ◼   ► she's got limited holidays and it just

00:47:21 ◼   ► doesn't capture her imagination I can't

00:47:23 ◼   ► get her to do it well you got to do it

00:47:26 ◼   ► on your own Brady I can't do it on my

00:47:27 ◼   ► own that's too big a waste of my time

00:47:30 ◼   ► too big of a waste of time with a once

00:47:33 ◼   ► in a lifetime opportunity everybody

00:47:34 ◼   ► should do let's do a podcast road trip

00:47:36 ◼   ► we'll do the hello internet across

00:47:38 ◼   ► America record an episode each night I

00:47:40 ◼   ► am pretty sure one of us would not

00:47:43 ◼   ► survive that trip really if we had to do

00:47:45 ◼   ► it together I think we would strangle

00:47:47 ◼   ► each other to death maybe both of us

00:47:49 ◼   ► wouldn't survive who knows I think we'd

00:47:51 ◼   ► be right because there's like a

00:47:53 ◼   ► formality and politeness between us

00:47:55 ◼   ► where I think we would never have a big

00:47:57 ◼   ► argument like I think we'd be or are we

00:47:59 ◼   ► in the same car together yeah of course

00:48:01 ◼   ► okay are we staying in the same hotel

00:48:02 ◼   ► rooms no different rooms we did that

00:48:05 ◼   ► once okay yeah so yeah that was fine but

00:48:08 ◼   ► no different rooms of course different

00:48:09 ◼   ► rooms I don't know all right now I'm

00:48:11 ◼   ► just thinking you seem very confident so

00:48:13 ◼   ► you throw a little bit of doubt in my

00:48:14 ◼   ► mind I have no doubt we'd get along mmm

00:48:17 ◼   ► but whether or not you know that's how

00:48:19 ◼   ► we want to spend it hugs a lot of

00:48:21 ◼   ► questions it'd be quite interesting

00:48:27 ◼   ► hello internet across America yeah hello

00:48:30 ◼   ► Internet ultimate roadtrip we could

00:48:32 ◼   ► review different flags we saw along the

00:48:34 ◼   ► way

00:48:35 ◼   ► each night we could do a few press ups

00:48:38 ◼   ► and do a bit of filler Tron live star no

00:48:42 ◼   ► he just ate a press up I tell you what

00:48:44 ◼   ► that's the big difference coming from

00:48:46 ◼   ► Russia to America the extreme

00:48:48 ◼   ► differences in food like my host in

00:48:51 ◼   ► Russia are great and they put us in like

00:48:52 ◼   ► a posh place but even then the food was

00:48:55 ◼   ► pretty ropey mm-hmm and then you come to

00:48:56 ◼   ► America and it's just like whoa yeah

00:48:59 ◼   ► look at all that's amazing stuff oh

00:49:02 ◼   ► you're out there in Berkeley you go to

00:49:04 ◼   ► the local pizza place they give you an

00:49:06 ◼   ► extra pizza with a wink without you've

00:49:08 ◼   ► been asking it's amazing I've already

00:49:10 ◼   ► had my extra slice last night extra

00:49:12 ◼   ► slice or extra pie Brady which which was

00:49:14 ◼   ► it it was three extra slices because I

00:49:16 ◼   ► only wanted a half pizza and when you

00:49:18 ◼   ► order a half baked side head then give

00:49:19 ◼   ► you three extra slices in the box so

00:49:21 ◼   ► it's three quarters of a pizza or seven

00:49:24 ◼   ► eighths of the pizza how big are these

00:49:25 ◼   ► slices I would say they give you half a

00:49:27 ◼   ► pizza and then with the extra stuff you

00:49:28 ◼   ► probably get just short of three

00:49:30 ◼   ► quarters it's a big pizza though mm-hmm

00:49:34 ◼   ► I've literally gone from like Russian

00:49:37 ◼   ► brown bread to a place called the

00:49:40 ◼   ► gourmet ghetto the shows the extremes of

00:49:42 ◼   ► the world yeah well I think we've made

00:49:45 ◼   ► it official before but we all know

00:49:46 ◼   ► calories in America don't count that's

00:49:49 ◼   ► how it works when you're in America

00:49:51 ◼   ► everything's fine those calories don't

00:49:53 ◼   ► count if you live there yeah obviously

00:49:56 ◼   ► the calories count but if you're just

00:49:57 ◼   ► visiting doesn't count at all that's how

00:49:59 ◼   ► that works there's this song by a band

00:50:01 ◼   ► called Liberty X that's got this line in

00:50:03 ◼   ► it it's about like you know love and

00:50:05 ◼   ► stuff and it's about being apart and the

00:50:07 ◼   ► line in the song says I'm on my own all

00:50:10 ◼   ► alone a thousand miles from home there's

00:50:13 ◼   ► temptation all around but the idea is

00:50:16 ◼   ► I'd love you and I'm staying true to you

00:50:17 ◼   ► because I love you so much so I was in

00:50:19 ◼   ► Safeway the other day in the cake

00:50:20 ◼   ► section was surrounded by all the

00:50:22 ◼   ► amazing stuff so I've made a video for

00:50:24 ◼   ► my wife where I played that song really

00:50:26 ◼   ► loudly so it was playing in the

00:50:28 ◼   ► background and I was just filming all

00:50:29 ◼   ► the cakes and it just said I'm on my own

00:50:32 ◼   ► nerves you know temptation all around

00:50:35 ◼   ► and I was panning across all these cakes

00:50:37 ◼   ► and cream puffs and stuff she got a bit

00:50:41 ◼   ► of a laugh out of that I've still got it

00:50:44 ◼   ► I'll post it somewhere for people to

00:50:45 ◼   ► have a laugh at

00:50:46 ◼   ► that's fantastic yeah that's absolutely

00:50:48 ◼   ► that's and so true yeah and I I'm really

00:50:52 ◼   ► trying with my feet of Tron lifestyle at

00:50:55 ◼   ► the moment and this is just a torpedo

00:50:57 ◼   ► this week coming back to Berkeley

00:50:59 ◼   ► I feel like we need to back up in the

00:51:00 ◼   ► story a little bit because like oh

00:51:01 ◼   ► you're trying with the fit Tron

00:51:02 ◼   ► lifestyle but wait why were you in a

00:51:04 ◼   ► cake store no I was in Safeway doing my

00:51:07 ◼   ► grocery shopping there's just so much

00:51:08 ◼   ► good stuff everywhere it's like you

00:51:10 ◼   ► can't help her okay poor Americans I

00:51:13 ◼   ► don't blame them it's terrible what's

00:51:15 ◼   ► being done to you everywhere you look

00:51:17 ◼   ► there's just delicious food and it's all

00:51:19 ◼   ► so big it's not fair it isn't fair and

00:51:22 ◼   ► it's it's interesting because this is

00:51:25 ◼   ► actually a topic upon which I have

00:51:27 ◼   ► changed my mind over the last few years

00:51:30 ◼   ► like I think there really is something

00:51:32 ◼   ► to the idea that like American obesity

00:51:36 ◼   ► is not just because Americans are lazy

00:51:38 ◼   ► like it's because there there is food

00:51:41 ◼   ► everywhere in huge portions that's

00:51:44 ◼   ► delicious and I feel like people are

00:51:46 ◼   ► obviously affected by their environment

00:51:49 ◼   ► there's all kinds of interesting like

00:51:51 ◼   ► experiments that you can do that can

00:51:52 ◼   ► show like how you can sort of fool

00:51:54 ◼   ► people into eating more and you know

00:51:57 ◼   ► I've just been finding out about like

00:51:58 ◼   ► how foods are designed I feel like I've

00:52:00 ◼   ► really changed my mind on this to some

00:52:03 ◼   ► extent that it's like this is way more

00:52:04 ◼   ► of an environmental issue than it is

00:52:07 ◼   ► like a personal issue it's a lot easier

00:52:10 ◼   ► to stay slim in Russia because the food

00:52:11 ◼   ► is disgusting and nobody wants it well

00:52:13 ◼   ► that's it I've gone from like literally

00:52:15 ◼   ► when I was having dinner in Russia they

00:52:16 ◼   ► were bringing me out like a plate of

00:52:18 ◼   ► grated cabbage and a piece of brown

00:52:21 ◼   ► bread and like because it was a posh

00:52:24 ◼   ► place you know a piece of meat and that

00:52:26 ◼   ► was like a nice meal and I enjoyed don't

00:52:28 ◼   ► get me wrong I enjoyed it and then I

00:52:30 ◼   ► come here and like I go to the pizza

00:52:33 ◼   ► place and I order half a pizza to show

00:52:35 ◼   ► restraint and they're throwing more

00:52:36 ◼   ► pieces at me to eat here have more

00:52:38 ◼   ► melted cheese what can you do

00:52:41 ◼   ► now there's nothing you can do there's

00:52:43 ◼   ► nothing oh yeah there is you can not eat

00:52:45 ◼   ► it but no no no very left look back up

00:52:48 ◼   ► right logical conclusion is there's

00:52:50 ◼   ► nothing you can do right if it's largely

00:52:52 ◼   ► environment then there's no personal

00:52:54 ◼   ► responsibility

00:52:56 ◼   ► how is that fitted Tron lifestyle going

00:52:58 ◼   ► are you you okay with that or I mean

00:53:00 ◼   ► obviously all bets are off for the next

00:53:02 ◼   ► two weeks my body doesn't realize that

00:53:03 ◼   ► so I still pay the penalty but I'm off

00:53:06 ◼   ► the horse at the moment but prior to

00:53:08 ◼   ► that I think I've done about 20 odd

00:53:10 ◼   ► personal training sessions I'm doing

00:53:12 ◼   ► three training sessions a week so I'm

00:53:14 ◼   ► getting a lot stronger and fitter but I

00:53:17 ◼   ► hadn't yet modified my eating mmm-hmm

00:53:19 ◼   ► but for the week and a half or so before

00:53:22 ◼   ► I left I started calorie counting again

00:53:25 ◼   ► mm-hm and I'm going to calorie count

00:53:26 ◼   ► again when I get home so now I'm

00:53:28 ◼   ► attacking it on both the fronts I need

00:53:30 ◼   ► to be attacking on the exercise and the

00:53:33 ◼   ► reduced calorie intake so I have no like

00:53:36 ◼   ► stats to report or anything like that

00:53:38 ◼   ► but I am doing it I'm working it hard

00:53:41 ◼   ► that's fantastic I'm really glad to hear

00:53:43 ◼   ► that you've been sticking with the

00:53:44 ◼   ► personal trainer mmm I was wondering

00:53:46 ◼   ► because very early on in this process

00:53:47 ◼   ► you sent me an awesome-looking photo of

00:53:52 ◼   ► you like silhouetted against the light

00:53:54 ◼   ► holding kettlebells like looking like a

00:53:56 ◼   ► total badass and I was like oh wow look

00:53:59 ◼   ► at this like Brady's doing it me and

00:54:00 ◼   ► then you told me later on that oh that

00:54:02 ◼   ► wasn't a picture of you in the middle of

00:54:04 ◼   ► exercising that was a picture of you

00:54:05 ◼   ► just moving kettlebells out of the way

00:54:07 ◼   ► someone else has happened to snap and I

00:54:09 ◼   ► was like what's he really doing I don't

00:54:11 ◼   ► know I just saw the really nice

00:54:12 ◼   ► silhouette and the window and I had just

00:54:14 ◼   ► been using a kettlebell and I know that

00:54:16 ◼   ► your wife was a fan of kettlebells

00:54:18 ◼   ► basically it was just a posed picture to

00:54:20 ◼   ► show off to your wife of me holding your

00:54:23 ◼   ► kettlebell but like you know I was

00:54:25 ◼   ► exercising I was therefore doing an hour

00:54:26 ◼   ► of exercise it wasn't like I was doing

00:54:28 ◼   ► an hour long photo shoot so that I could

00:54:30 ◼   ► well yeah the photos look like a little

00:54:32 ◼   ► bit that was the feeling I was getting I

00:54:34 ◼   ► was like what's he doing over there I'm

00:54:35 ◼   ► doing it so I think my body's getting

00:54:37 ◼   ► stronger mm-hmm but I was still like

00:54:39 ◼   ► going to the gym and then maybe getting

00:54:41 ◼   ► a sneaky McDonald's on the way home so

00:54:43 ◼   ► there's no more of that now now it's

00:54:45 ◼   ► going to the gym and then going home and

00:54:46 ◼   ► eating like you know brown rice yeah

00:54:49 ◼   ► gruel that's a drink no meetings just

00:54:51 ◼   ► some gruel I tell you what I should just

00:54:53 ◼   ► go to Russia for three months

00:54:54 ◼   ► honest to god I bet that would sort you

00:54:56 ◼   ► out yeah totally think that it always

00:54:58 ◼   ► find it's like much easier to keep at

00:55:02 ◼   ► being strict with what you're eating in

00:55:04 ◼   ► a different environment

00:55:05 ◼   ► I honestly think if you went to Russia

00:55:07 ◼   ► for three months you'd come back looking

00:55:09 ◼   ► like Adonis Brady

00:55:10 ◼   ► I think that's what it would happen

00:55:10 ◼   ► what's your kind of fit a Tron lifestyle

00:55:12 ◼   ► now I mean obviously you hit it hard to

00:55:14 ◼   ► lose all this weight you wanted to lose

00:55:16 ◼   ► now you living some regime now or are

00:55:18 ◼   ► you more just going back to what you

00:55:20 ◼   ► were doing before but keeping it steady

00:55:22 ◼   ► or lucky exercising a lot are you really

00:55:25 ◼   ► discipline data still law it's been an

00:55:27 ◼   ► interesting process because this past

00:55:29 ◼   ► month I've been pretty terrible about

00:55:31 ◼   ► making it to the gym I haven't been

00:55:33 ◼   ► really good about that but that process

00:55:35 ◼   ► that I went through last time I feel

00:55:37 ◼   ► like really did fundamentally change a

00:55:40 ◼   ► lot of the kind of foods that I eat

00:55:41 ◼   ► right I mean if you rewind to two years

00:55:44 ◼   ► ago I had essentially an all

00:55:46 ◼   ► carbohydrate based diet like there was

00:55:47 ◼   ► nothing that I ate that wasn't

00:55:49 ◼   ► carbohydrates and now that's really

00:55:51 ◼   ► dropped and so I don't know if other

00:55:54 ◼   ► people have this feeling but I feel like

00:55:55 ◼   ► there are like snap points that my body

00:55:58 ◼   ► wants to maintain weight at and before

00:56:03 ◼   ► the fit of Tron lifestyle like I was

00:56:05 ◼   ► properly like overweight and it felt

00:56:07 ◼   ► like my body really wanted to stay

00:56:09 ◼   ► around that weight and so now that I

00:56:12 ◼   ► dropped under 200 pounds like just under

00:56:14 ◼   ► 200 I feel like this is another point

00:56:19 ◼   ► that my body wants to stay around like

00:56:22 ◼   ► in the last month where I haven't been

00:56:23 ◼   ► exercising as much as I was exercising

00:56:25 ◼   ► prior to that my body weight actually

00:56:27 ◼   ► hasn't changed all that much right so

00:56:29 ◼   ► it's like okay it's interesting it

00:56:31 ◼   ► doesn't want to go up and also when I've

00:56:33 ◼   ► been like a few months ago I was like

00:56:36 ◼   ► you know what I really want to break the

00:56:37 ◼   ► 190 barrier but I could feel like I have

00:56:41 ◼   ► this same resistance just like when I

00:56:43 ◼   ► was much heavier that like my body just

00:56:44 ◼   ► doesn't want to go down and it feels

00:56:47 ◼   ► like it would take a lot of effort to

00:56:49 ◼   ► actually get down to the next level so

00:56:52 ◼   ► there's some kind of homeostasis I think

00:56:55 ◼   ► that happens at different points I don't

00:56:57 ◼   ► know if there's anything to back that up

00:56:58 ◼   ► but that's really the way it feels so I

00:57:01 ◼   ► am at a homeostasis point that I'm

00:57:03 ◼   ► pretty happy about but it is on my mind

00:57:05 ◼   ► that I still would like to at some point

00:57:07 ◼   ► in the future really try to step it up

00:57:09 ◼   ► and see if I can find like another

00:57:11 ◼   ► homeostasis point that's a little bit

00:57:13 ◼   ► further down the curve but yeah so

00:57:16 ◼   ► you've been very good with exercising

00:57:18 ◼   ► and I have not been so good with

00:57:20 ◼   ► exercising in the past month

00:57:22 ◼   ► that's where we are you've also put a

00:57:23 ◼   ► little seed in my head now that there's

00:57:25 ◼   ► some homeostasis point out there for me

00:57:27 ◼   ► that if I can just get to it I couldn't

00:57:29 ◼   ► start eating crap again and stay at the

00:57:30 ◼   ► low weight I don't want to like put that

00:57:32 ◼   ► idea in your head but I have found it

00:57:34 ◼   ► interesting to note that when I haven't

00:57:38 ◼   ► been good with food it doesn't seem to

00:57:41 ◼   ► affect me as much as when I was heavier

00:57:44 ◼   ► like when I was heavier if I dropped a

00:57:46 ◼   ► couple pounds and then I ate one sneaky

00:57:48 ◼   ► mcdonald it was like boom immediately

00:57:50 ◼   ► back up another two pounds I think the

00:57:52 ◼   ► homeostasis point it does exist Brady

00:57:54 ◼   ► okay

00:57:54 ◼   ► there's a ring out there somewhere that

00:57:56 ◼   ► if you can just grasp it yeah then you

00:57:58 ◼   ► can go back to eating McDonald's like

00:57:59 ◼   ► you really want we'll say we'll say I

00:58:01 ◼   ► think the next week or so is going to be

00:58:03 ◼   ► hard here in California but I'll do my

00:58:04 ◼   ► best and then when I get back to the UK

00:58:07 ◼   ► oh I'll get back on the horse good luck

00:58:09 ◼   ► man

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00:59:37 ◼   ► the show do you know the counter of the

00:59:40 ◼   ► number of videos that are responsible

00:59:42 ◼   ► for since you released a video which you

00:59:44 ◼   ► know I think is ridiculous but it does

00:59:45 ◼   ► exist I think there's a real chance I'm

00:59:48 ◼   ► going to get to a hundred unless you're

00:59:50 ◼   ► about to put a video out in the next few

00:59:51 ◼   ► days now I'm going to get to a hundred

00:59:53 ◼   ► videos since you last player video oh

00:59:55 ◼   ► yeah I totally think you're going to hit

00:59:56 ◼   ► 100 I think you're going to hit a

00:59:57 ◼   ► hundred that's going to happen say

00:59:59 ◼   ► you're not

00:59:59 ◼   ► you're not

01:00:00 ◼   ► putting one out in the next week or two

01:00:01 ◼   ► I just want to know because if you are

01:00:02 ◼   ► maybe I will batch release a few just so

01:00:05 ◼   ► I can get the hundred now I got a

01:00:07 ◼   ► warning yeah it feels like it should be

01:00:09 ◼   ► some sort of trophy maybe that you can

01:00:11 ◼   ► get likely put it up on your wall like a

01:00:13 ◼   ► hundred video yeah what about a gray

01:00:15 ◼   ► button yeah I could give you a gray

01:00:16 ◼   ► button for that and you get a diamond

01:00:19 ◼   ► button if it hasn't that's the way that

01:00:21 ◼   ► could work I'm sure the next one will be

01:00:23 ◼   ► a cracker that's the bad thing about

01:00:24 ◼   ► having a big gap is everyone's like oh

01:00:26 ◼   ► my god the next one he's got to be

01:00:27 ◼   ► working on some huge project is like no

01:00:29 ◼   ► people it's not a huge project no

01:00:31 ◼   ► expectations like it's just gonna be a

01:00:32 ◼   ► thing that's all it's gonna be an iPhone

01:00:34 ◼   ► unboxing oh my god I should totally do

01:00:36 ◼   ► that that'd be a fantastic idea

01:00:39 ◼   ► especially midseason right just like

01:00:40 ◼   ► I'll do an iPhone unboxing now for a

01:00:42 ◼   ► phone that's six months old yeah no

01:00:44 ◼   ► comment at all just upload it without

01:00:46 ◼   ► any remarks just like oh yeah this is

01:00:48 ◼   ► what it is that's actually a brilliant

01:00:49 ◼   ► idea just release it the data counter

01:00:51 ◼   ► gets to 99 to spite me there's literally

01:00:54 ◼   ► what I was just thinking is like what

01:00:56 ◼   ► can I put together I'm gonna write a

01:00:57 ◼   ► little script to keep an eye on that

01:00:59 ◼   ► counter number and to get notified the

01:01:01 ◼   ► incident goes up to 99 and then like BAM

01:01:03 ◼   ► alright I've got a really something

01:01:04 ◼   ► anything it could just be 5 seconds of

01:01:07 ◼   ► sorry Brady yeah not this dark art man

01:01:10 ◼   ► you're saying this it's so tempting so

01:01:13 ◼   ► tempting Brady you too I don't much you

01:01:15 ◼   ► do it I think the catchy things

01:01:16 ◼   ► ridiculous anyway but it is a handy

01:01:18 ◼   ► resource for me I don't think the

01:01:20 ◼   ► counter is so ridiculous because I don't

01:01:21 ◼   ► really take it so seriously but I do

01:01:23 ◼   ► think it's ridiculous that you get

01:01:24 ◼   ► credit for computer file on that count

01:01:26 ◼   ► yes that seems ridiculous that is

01:01:27 ◼   ► ridiculous that is ridiculous so we have

01:01:29 ◼   ► to subtract that out from your 100 score

01:01:31 ◼   ► yes because of course nearly all the

01:01:34 ◼   ► videos on computer file are made by Sean

01:01:36 ◼   ► I don't actually even see all of them

01:01:38 ◼   ► mm-hmm I have some responsibility for

01:01:39 ◼   ► them and is part of my business you're

01:01:42 ◼   ► like the producer that's what you are

01:01:44 ◼   ► yeah but you're right they are not a

01:01:45 ◼   ► drain on my time so but I think it's

01:01:48 ◼   ► funny that they're included speaking of

01:01:52 ◼   ► planting seeds and ideas I think we need

01:01:55 ◼   ► to deal with something I know we've got

01:01:57 ◼   ► a lot of other stuff to talk about but

01:01:58 ◼   ► I've got to get this off my chest

01:02:00 ◼   ► in the last episode gray planted in my

01:02:04 ◼   ► head an idea and it was not it obviously

01:02:07 ◼   ► it was not his intention and as soon as

01:02:09 ◼   ► he did it he tried to undo it but I'm

01:02:11 ◼   ► afraid I feel

01:02:13 ◼   ► things have gotten out of control I feel

01:02:15 ◼   ► like I've been trying to undo this

01:02:16 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes Brady and say I'm

01:02:19 ◼   ► talking about limited edition hello

01:02:22 ◼   ► internet sneakers trainers shoes because

01:02:25 ◼   ► gray pointed out that he had just

01:02:27 ◼   ► recently found out about the world of

01:02:29 ◼   ► sort of limited edition sneakers that

01:02:30 ◼   ► were sold to be collectible sneaker

01:02:32 ◼   ► heads sneaker heads and I sort of

01:02:34 ◼   ► thought I think what you don't

01:02:35 ◼   ► understand I don't know if you were like

01:02:36 ◼   ► this was newer a young lad gray but I

01:02:39 ◼   ► went through a phase of being obsessed

01:02:41 ◼   ► with sneakers like I remember being on

01:02:43 ◼   ► the school bus every day and just

01:02:45 ◼   ► talking with my friend Chris for hours

01:02:46 ◼   ► about the latest Nike Air Jordans or

01:02:49 ◼   ► Reebok pumps or added s torsions and I

01:02:52 ◼   ► would go home on my computer and like

01:02:54 ◼   ► design like my dream pair of sneakers

01:02:56 ◼   ► and every time one of us would get a new

01:02:58 ◼   ► pair like if dad took us shopping

01:02:59 ◼   ► sneakers which was the ultimate

01:03:00 ◼   ► experience taking at them on the bus the

01:03:03 ◼   ► next day and showing your friends that I

01:03:05 ◼   ► really for a fee as I was quite obsessed

01:03:07 ◼   ► with the culture of sneakers probably

01:03:09 ◼   ► like a lot of young people were you ever

01:03:12 ◼   ► into sneakers like that yeah this is

01:03:13 ◼   ► totally foreign to me I did not

01:03:15 ◼   ► experience this I don't think I knew

01:03:16 ◼   ► anybody who experienced this okay I

01:03:19 ◼   ► didn't understand what we were stepping

01:03:20 ◼   ► into when I brought this up last time so

01:03:22 ◼   ► anyway it brought back a lot of

01:03:23 ◼   ► nostalgia for me and because of the

01:03:25 ◼   ► success of the vinyl episode having like

01:03:28 ◼   ► created a physical thing I sort of

01:03:30 ◼   ► thought imagine that imagine having like

01:03:32 ◼   ► releasing a pair of sneakers hello

01:03:34 ◼   ► internet sneakers so I've taken the ball

01:03:37 ◼   ► and run with it and we are now going to

01:03:40 ◼   ► make available hello internet sneakers I

01:03:43 ◼   ► can't believe you've really done this

01:03:45 ◼   ► Brady I can't I know but I want to make

01:03:47 ◼   ► this clear this is not like a

01:03:48 ◼   ► mass-market product and I want to start

01:03:52 ◼   ► this by encouraging everyone who is

01:03:54 ◼   ► listening now to not order a pair of

01:03:57 ◼   ► these sneakers do not order them you are

01:04:00 ◼   ► not missing out on anything there's no

01:04:02 ◼   ► like material or episode of hello

01:04:03 ◼   ► Internet you're gonna miss out on you

01:04:05 ◼   ► should not get these in fact I would

01:04:07 ◼   ► suggest like skipping now what have you

01:04:10 ◼   ► done Brady I don't know anything about

01:04:12 ◼   ► this what have you done I want the to

01:04:14 ◼   ► watch words for the next few minutes to

01:04:16 ◼   ► be quality oh okay and understatement

01:04:22 ◼   ► okay

01:04:22 ◼   ► that's been my mission because look I

01:04:24 ◼   ► saw some people make designs of possible

01:04:26 ◼   ► sneak

01:04:26 ◼   ► and they made them like look like over

01:04:28 ◼   ► the top basketball high-top shoes and

01:04:30 ◼   ► things like that and it was very funny

01:04:31 ◼   ► but I wanted to create a pair of shoes

01:04:33 ◼   ► that I think you and I would wear Oh God

01:04:36 ◼   ► okay but also I wanted them to be like

01:04:38 ◼   ► the highest quality I didn't want to

01:04:40 ◼   ► like get some cheap knockoff China thing

01:04:43 ◼   ► where you could mass-produce

01:04:44 ◼   ► a thousand pairs of some shoddy things

01:04:46 ◼   ► that fall apart or were like super cheap

01:04:49 ◼   ► I wanted to make something like special

01:04:51 ◼   ► because I cut you know like wearing nice

01:04:53 ◼   ► shoes so what I've done is I've teamed

01:04:56 ◼   ► up with a company called crown in

01:04:59 ◼   ► Northampton in England which is like the

01:05:02 ◼   ► shoe making capital of England and it's

01:05:05 ◼   ► a place that also has family

01:05:07 ◼   ► associations for me so it was important

01:05:09 ◼   ► to get in touch with my shoe making

01:05:11 ◼   ► roots I've modified one of their premium

01:05:15 ◼   ► sneakers that they make these aren't

01:05:17 ◼   ► like sneakers that you would go and like

01:05:18 ◼   ► runyan these are like nice dress leather

01:05:21 ◼   ► sneakers that you would wear to look

01:05:22 ◼   ► nice in leather okay

01:05:23 ◼   ► yeah and they're going to be like dark

01:05:25 ◼   ► grey hello internet color with white

01:05:28 ◼   ► trimming and like a white toe area and

01:05:30 ◼   ► then embossed with a specially made

01:05:33 ◼   ► brass stamp which is currently been

01:05:35 ◼   ► forged embossed on one side is the nail

01:05:39 ◼   ► and gear into the leather but it's not

01:05:41 ◼   ► like colour it's not going to be like a

01:05:42 ◼   ► big white nail and gear and look all

01:05:44 ◼   ► it's like just embossed into the leather

01:05:46 ◼   ► it's just depressed into the leather

01:05:48 ◼   ► subtle classy and then on the tongue of

01:05:52 ◼   ► the leather upper

01:05:53 ◼   ► another brass step but I'm having made

01:05:55 ◼   ► is embossed again the a chai so it's got

01:06:00 ◼   ► the hello internet branding but like you

01:06:02 ◼   ► wouldn't immediately know to look at it

01:06:03 ◼   ► I want it to look nice you could wear

01:06:05 ◼   ► this out to a bar and you know look cool

01:06:06 ◼   ► and like we were going to have white

01:06:09 ◼   ► laces and we may still have white laces

01:06:11 ◼   ► available but I just thought it would

01:06:14 ◼   ► look better with the gray laces which

01:06:15 ◼   ► have to be specially imported from Italy

01:06:18 ◼   ► there's special waxed laser oh oh this

01:06:22 ◼   ► is like a premium premium pair of shoes

01:06:25 ◼   ► oh my god yeah oh my god Brady they're

01:06:29 ◼   ► gonna look amazing I've already got like

01:06:31 ◼   ► a sample of one of the other shoes but

01:06:33 ◼   ► obviously these ones haven't been made

01:06:34 ◼   ► yet so the hello Internet limited

01:06:37 ◼   ► edition sneakers are a thing but they're

01:06:39 ◼   ► like

01:06:40 ◼   ► they're really expensive gray they're

01:06:42 ◼   ► made in England already which is already

01:06:43 ◼   ► going to make them expensive and I can't

01:06:46 ◼   ► undercut the price they sell them for

01:06:48 ◼   ► elsewhere anyway so I have to use like

01:06:51 ◼   ► the market controlled price so these are

01:06:53 ◼   ► expensive shoes you should not buy them

01:06:55 ◼   ► I'm getting a pair and I'm going to get

01:06:58 ◼   ► gray a pair when he gives me his shoe

01:06:59 ◼   ► size if anyone else wants them because

01:07:01 ◼   ► they're really into sneakers already

01:07:03 ◼   ► likes them you can order them you can

01:07:05 ◼   ► order your size and then they'll be made

01:07:07 ◼   ► to order to your specifications these

01:07:09 ◼   ► are bespoke special sneakers but if you

01:07:13 ◼   ► are not obsessed with sneakers or you

01:07:15 ◼   ► don't have like money to spend do not

01:07:18 ◼   ► order these do not order these I'll

01:07:20 ◼   ► share pictures of them and people can

01:07:22 ◼   ► look at them and I'll make a video of

01:07:23 ◼   ► how they're made and you can just enjoy

01:07:24 ◼   ► that you don't need to own them but if

01:07:27 ◼   ► you for some reason want oh they will be

01:07:28 ◼   ► out there to be owned you have an actual

01:07:31 ◼   ► cobbler yeah who's going to be yeah

01:07:33 ◼   ► making shoes for people individually

01:07:36 ◼   ► that's what's happening here it's an

01:07:38 ◼   ► English family business that's been

01:07:40 ◼   ► going for like a hundred years they

01:07:41 ◼   ► specialize in shoes and these are going

01:07:43 ◼   ► to be made to order the special color

01:07:45 ◼   ► leather is being ordered the laces are

01:07:48 ◼   ► being brought in from Italy each pair

01:07:50 ◼   ► and be handmade in England to order to

01:07:53 ◼   ► the for the person who ordered it I mean

01:07:56 ◼   ► what like delivered to your door by a

01:07:58 ◼   ► beautiful maiden on a horse like I like

01:08:00 ◼   ► but don't step this at all okay I have

01:08:04 ◼   ► to wrap my head around this whole thing

01:08:05 ◼   ► alright you're saying that there is a

01:08:07 ◼   ► company that still exists today yep that

01:08:10 ◼   ► is just a bespoke custom small-scale

01:08:14 ◼   ► shoe manufacturer like I almost feel

01:08:16 ◼   ► like I can't believe that such a thing

01:08:17 ◼   ► exists in the modern economy

01:08:19 ◼   ► Northamptonshire which is a place close

01:08:21 ◼   ► to my heart is famous for shoe making in

01:08:24 ◼   ► England obviously most of the industry

01:08:26 ◼   ► gets decimated like all these industries

01:08:28 ◼   ► too but there are still a handful of

01:08:29 ◼   ► these bespoke shoemakers littered around

01:08:32 ◼   ► the county of Northampton sheer and I

01:08:34 ◼   ► called on my friends but unbelievably I

01:08:37 ◼   ► know people in the shoe business in

01:08:39 ◼   ► Northampton cheer and I said to them I

01:08:41 ◼   ► want limited edition sneakers who do I

01:08:43 ◼   ► speak to and they said speak to this guy

01:08:45 ◼   ► called Chris at crown he already makes

01:08:48 ◼   ► these amazing sneakers I contacted him

01:08:50 ◼   ► he showed me what he makes mhm I told

01:08:52 ◼   ► him how I wanted them customer

01:08:53 ◼   ► hasn't changed for hello Internet and

01:08:55 ◼   ► we've been exchanging ideas and having

01:08:57 ◼   ► phone calls and he's been sending me

01:08:58 ◼   ► designs mm-hmm let me send you a picture

01:09:00 ◼   ► now so you can get some idea of what

01:09:03 ◼   ► we're talking about the final design is

01:09:05 ◼   ► not yet in place so you will anyone who

01:09:08 ◼   ► orders these will kind of be ordering

01:09:09 ◼   ► them off plan so you're taking a bit of

01:09:11 ◼   ► a risk this is a prototype image that